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Speaker 1: This subject line is can you go from fucking to
Speaker 1: being roommates? Interesting question. Dear Corin and Christina. First off,
Speaker 1: y'all are amazing. I have equal love for this podcast
Speaker 1: as I do for Gilmore Girls Wow, which is saying
Speaker 1: a lot because I have a matching tattoo with my
Speaker 1: best friend. That's from the You Jump I Jump Jack episode.
Speaker 1: I saw you Lovely's Live in Atlanta and the show
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Please come back soon. Sorry in advance for
Speaker 1: the length of this email, I need some advice on
Speaker 1: whether I should ask this guy to move in with me. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's twenty two, I'm twenty seven. Nope. For the sake
Speaker 1: of this email, that's the answer. That is the answer.
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent sure of it. But we'll continue on.
Speaker 1: When you live with a boy, you find out he
Speaker 1: doesn't really wash his towels or sheets much. Huh. But also,
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old doesn't need to be living
Speaker 1: with anyone, and especially a guy. For the sake of
Speaker 1: this email, I'll call him Aaron. We met working in
Speaker 1: food service in twenty seventeen. At the time, I was
Speaker 1: twenty one and had been working for this restaurant since
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. I was also one of the managers at
Speaker 1: this place. At first, I hated Aaron. He worked my
Speaker 1: nerves in a plethora of ways. I mean, okay, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: Aaron was a child when you met him. That if
Speaker 1: you were twenty one and the age gap is twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty seven yeah, five year yeah? Oh boy? Okay um.
Speaker 1: At one point I even tried that took me too long, sorry,
Speaker 1: and I used my fingers to count. I love that
Speaker 1: fingers are there for a reason. You got them. That's good.
Speaker 1: That was very inclusive, Christ, thank you m. At one
Speaker 1: point I even tried to fire him. Oh four play yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so uncomfortable with the age gap. Okay.
Speaker 1: At one point I even tried to fire him. Honestly,
Speaker 1: what I was trying to fire him for wasn't even
Speaker 1: his fault, but all the same, I called him and
Speaker 1: screamed at him that I was going to fire him. Healthy.
Speaker 1: His dad took the phone because he heard me screaming
Speaker 1: at his minor son. He was seventeen at the time,
Speaker 1: so I proceeded to also scream at his dad about
Speaker 1: how I was going to fire his son. Okay, ten
Speaker 1: out of ten. Jerry, Jerry. Sometimes the food industry will
Speaker 1: make you crazy, though Yep, blame it on everyone but yourself.
Speaker 1: Personal responsibility. It's for someone else. Oh God, my boss
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me fire him, And slowly Aaron worked his
Speaker 1: way into my good graces, eventually becoming one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people to work with. In twenty eighteen, he went
Speaker 1: to college and we didn't see much of each other
Speaker 1: again until March of twenty twenty he came back to
Speaker 1: the area. We started working together again and going to
Speaker 1: the same college. In December of twenty twenty one, I
Speaker 1: started to have a crush on him, which is because
Speaker 1: he was going through puberty, which is the first time
Speaker 1: becoming a man. I mean really, it's like when Hanson's
Speaker 1: voice changed, which which is the first time I've ever
Speaker 1: had a crush on anyone younger than me. We flirted
Speaker 1: off and on until June twenty twenty two. Eventually things
Speaker 1: came to a boiling point. He came to my house
Speaker 1: and we fucked. The sex was insanely good, like indescribably
Speaker 1: confusingly good, okay, which I was not expecting based off
Speaker 1: his goody two shoes personality. Sex with him is honestly
Speaker 1: some of the best sex I've ever had. Oh God.
Speaker 1: We verbally kept things between us casual and both agreed
Speaker 1: that this thing we were doing wasn't going to be serious.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's also for play. But we've fucked for
Speaker 1: the past nine solid months and I didn't sleep with
Speaker 1: anyone else during that time. I mean, that was your decision.
Speaker 1: He has a key to my apartment, okay, for what
Speaker 1: you're dating like, he has a key to my apartment
Speaker 1: to get dunka ruth like you got no I edited it, Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm peppering this and spends the night with me one
Speaker 1: to three nights that we hear dating, And as much
Speaker 1: as I tried not to catch feelings for him, I
Speaker 1: still did. Last week he came over and told me
Speaker 1: he had to stop seeing me, that he needed to
Speaker 1: end things while they were still good between us, because
Speaker 1: he wasn't ready for a commitment and neither of us
Speaker 1: were taking things as casually as we meant to. In
Speaker 1: the beginning, we talked about everything and him being twenty two,
Speaker 1: he's more self aware and a better communicator than men
Speaker 1: i've fucked that are in their thirties. He had loving
Speaker 1: parents in a good childhood, and it really shows in
Speaker 1: how articulate he is. Then we watched Harry Potter. Okay,
Speaker 1: see you see how that changed right there? We had
Speaker 1: a really a favorite movie on. Then we watched Harry Potter. Okay,
Speaker 1: watched Harry Potter, fucked, fell asleep, and he left the
Speaker 1: next morning. I knew that things with him weren't ever
Speaker 1: going to turn into a whirlwind romance or end with
Speaker 1: us walking down the aisle, but the reality of it
Speaker 1: all ending is still a bomber. Now, this is where
Speaker 1: I need advice. I am a part time student and
Speaker 1: currently work about thirty five hours a week. I'm about
Speaker 1: to be promoted to a higher position at work that
Speaker 1: I am only accepting for the financial benefits. Life's expensive
Speaker 1: and living alone isn't cheap. No other part of me
Speaker 1: wants this positions list. Uh. It requires you to work
Speaker 1: fifty hours a week. Fifty hours a week of work,
Speaker 1: with twelve hours a week physically in class, and then
Speaker 1: a minimum of four to six hours a week working
Speaker 1: on school stuff at home. Leaves drastically less time for
Speaker 1: me to be with my two dogs, who are both
Speaker 1: very used to lots and lots of attention and long walks. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: oh god, this is Aaron loves my dog. Their dog
Speaker 1: doesn't love dog. How did you find a man who
Speaker 1: loves dogs? This is? This is kismid is does this
Speaker 1: in your birth chart? Um? And they equally love him.
Speaker 1: Prior to things ending romantically between us, we had kicked
Speaker 1: around the idea of him moving in with me. I
Speaker 1: could use the help with my dogs once I get this.
Speaker 1: Someone doesn't have to live with you to walk your
Speaker 1: fucking dog. Yeah, it's called wag Jeesus Christ an app.
Speaker 1: It's called letting Aaron keep the key in paying him
Speaker 1: like a little bit of money, like what. I could
Speaker 1: use the help with my dogs once I get this promotion.
Speaker 1: And my apartment is more affordable than where he's currently living,
Speaker 1: so it would be mutually beneficial. Do you live in
Speaker 1: a two bedroom girl? Because I feel like you don't.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, where is he going to sleep? Oh
Speaker 1: my god. During during the conversation we had ending things,
Speaker 1: I took that off the table. But the more I
Speaker 1: think about it, the more I realized that I miss him.
Speaker 1: Come May, when I get my promotion, my new work
Speaker 1: schedule paired with my school schedule, I'm gonna need help
Speaker 1: with my dogs. How utterly insane would it be of
Speaker 1: me to put him moving in back on the table? Utterly,
Speaker 1: it would be utterly insane. Oh my god, I don't
Speaker 1: know how anyone else that I trust and would be
Speaker 1: comfortable living with. You got to try to look for
Speaker 1: someone for just any woman is the answer, Just literally
Speaker 1: any woman on the planet. The past tumb roommates I've
Speaker 1: had were sincerely traumatizing. Relax, and I know I could
Speaker 1: trust Aaron to help. You know's gonna be more traumatizing
Speaker 1: to want him to date you. When this younger guy
Speaker 1: pulls in some young tail and then fucks her. You
Speaker 1: hear the screams of pleasure in your own apartments and
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't like this. Oh is that worth
Speaker 1: walking your dogs over? Oh jeez. If he moved in,
Speaker 1: I'd also be able to to save sixty five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars in living expenses for the year. The apartment I
Speaker 1: live in is a two two bath, but so then
Speaker 1: you definitely a one bedroom. Yeah, but the two bedrooms
Speaker 1: share one wall. This apartment was cheaply built in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine. You would hear him wait, wait, when when
Speaker 1: to make your point, you have to start giving the
Speaker 1: people you're asking advice for the year that you're building
Speaker 1: was built. You're in wonky territory, um, and the walls
Speaker 1: are extremely thin. The point being if him or I
Speaker 1: were having sex in our rooms, the ladder of us
Speaker 1: that's not the right ladder would one hundred percent would
Speaker 1: hear it. And no part of me wants to hear
Speaker 1: another bitch getting see even like the fact you don't
Speaker 1: even like this girl that doesn't exist yet, this hypothetical
Speaker 1: woman you're already mad at. This is such a recipe
Speaker 1: for disaster, it's hilarious. Um, I know part of me
Speaker 1: wants to hear another bitch getting dicked down by a
Speaker 1: guy I quite frankly love, fucking Okay, I haven't brought
Speaker 1: this up to him yet because we still haven't spoken
Speaker 1: so since last week. Oh, things are on great, great terms.
Speaker 1: But would do you want you want to move in again?
Speaker 1: But would I be a complete dumb, insane ass bitch
Speaker 1: for bringing this up to him? Yes? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: His current lease doesn't end until July, so it would
Speaker 1: at least give us a few months to get over
Speaker 1: and move past the romantic entanglement you don't want to
Speaker 1: do that we had, But I still feel almost crazy
Speaker 1: for even considering bringing this up to him, and your
Speaker 1: gut saying you are that's your gut saying you're crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm coming at this from a logical standpoint. No, No, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. It's actually so crazy that it's then
Speaker 1: looped around to her thinking it's logical. People are really
Speaker 1: capable of convincing themselves that something is a good idea
Speaker 1: when it's really I'm in a duck and I gotta say,
Speaker 1: some of these emails are so fucking off the charts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you came up with these conclusions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you type it and then
Speaker 1: sent it. Oh my god. Sometimes I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: coming at this from a logical standpoint of wanting to
Speaker 1: make sure my dog's needs are met and wanting to
Speaker 1: save as much money as possible. Do you all think
Speaker 1: this is an insane terrible idea? Yes, or one that
Speaker 1: could possibly maybe work out to still mutually benefit us. Help?
Speaker 1: What the hell should I do? Not this? Not anything
Speaker 1: you pitched in this email is the answer to that question? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm honestly impressed that you're in this. You could you
Speaker 1: you you managed to manipulate yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah into
Speaker 1: going Oh I'm in a pickle. Yeah, you're not in
Speaker 1: a pickle. You want trouble. Yeah. You want this guy
Speaker 1: to want to date you, Yes, And he's not gonna
Speaker 1: want to date you, and you're gonna have to hear
Speaker 1: him have sex with other people so that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be seething in your room with your dogs. Ye.
Speaker 1: And it's not gonna work out. And then you're gonna
Speaker 1: want to like do think like you want revenge. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get bitter. This is a recipe for disaster. You're
Speaker 1: gonna end up poisoning the woman that he has to
Speaker 1: over sexual. I don't want to be in jail. Then
Speaker 1: your dogs are really gonna have no one to take
Speaker 1: care of. Oh, your dogs. You're gonna live alone. You're
Speaker 1: gonna die in jail, and then you're in You're after
Speaker 1: m house down. Yeah, that's the only way to get
Speaker 1: the smell off. All signs point to know. You had
Speaker 1: to look up the date that your building was born
Speaker 1: to give us an additional excuse as to why it's okay,
Speaker 1: that that he moves in again. Yeah. Every every week
Speaker 1: I say this, Shirley is going to be the wildest
Speaker 1: email we ever receive, and then the next week we
Speaker 1: somehow get one that's wild. I'll do us, ladies, do us.
Speaker 1: It's wild and it's simplicity of dumb bitchery. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: it's not even like anything crazy happened. It's just that
Speaker 1: you have have lied to yourself so intensely that you
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you? Do you really think
Speaker 1: that this is not because you're dying to make him
Speaker 1: fall in love with you again. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you the way that no one's ever No twenty two
Speaker 1: year old man has never ever fallen in love with
Speaker 1: a twenty seven year old woman by being around her
Speaker 1: more with no makeup on and smelling her poops. That's
Speaker 1: never At least they have the two bathrooms, so maybe
Speaker 1: they would have. But you're gonna hear each other fart eventually.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, though, that's never I don't think
Speaker 1: that's ever been. Because what's gonna happen is you're gonna
Speaker 1: start like having to clean up after him in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go you're gonna start feeling like to him, yeah, this, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all signs points and no, this is a such
Speaker 1: a no. And am I at least glad that you're
Speaker 1: you're you know, the term dumb bitch is catching on
Speaker 1: enough so that when you're writing us these dumb bitch scenarios,
Speaker 1: you're at least going, am I a dumbitch? Like, I'm
Speaker 1: at least glad you're considering it. But please know, if
Speaker 1: you're considering it, you probably are. You probably are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, but stop. Yeah, you know, turn right around
Speaker 1: the other way. You go the other direction, get a
Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment, like think of Okay, so you're taking
Speaker 1: the shot that you don't want for money, but then
Speaker 1: you're also trying to do all these other things like
Speaker 1: to see like again, yeah, I mean I feel like,
Speaker 1: just get a smaller apartment that's less money. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. We just saved you so much time and heartache. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you have these these two two dogs. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like I mean, you just also have to have the confidence.
Speaker 1: And this goes out to everybody in any situation. If
Speaker 1: you like somebody, you just have to have the confidence
Speaker 1: to go. You know what if this was meant to
Speaker 1: work out. It's gonna work itself out, and don't move
Speaker 1: in with it. Like if you guys were meant to
Speaker 1: be together, like you probably think you are in your head,
Speaker 1: you don't have to move in for that to happen.
Speaker 1: It will happen. It will just fucking happen, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So don't stop trying to force love.
Speaker 1: Another idea is if you don't want to move you
Speaker 1: like this apartment, You get a roommate and you say,
Speaker 1: I'm you get a discounted monthly rate if you agree
Speaker 1: to help out with my dogs. Like that's part of it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm offering this room at a discounted rate per month,
Speaker 1: but part of the thing is you have to help
Speaker 1: me walk my dogs. Yeah. I actually a dog lover
Speaker 1: would probably be really into that idea. With my old roommate,
Speaker 1: I waked Pinkerton all the time and not even for money.
Speaker 1: I just liked him. Yeah. Wow, there you go. There's it.
Speaker 1: And like Kran said, just ask any girl woman, any
Speaker 1: woman there a homeless woman on your street. Ye? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to earn some money ma'am walking dogs? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is not this is bad idea. It would be
Speaker 1: better to move in with a teenage girl than a
Speaker 1: twenty two year old man to have insane sex. Sure,
Speaker 1: and now are that you're pitching the idea of sharing
Speaker 1: a thin wall with him? Yeah? Yeah, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, look at yourself. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: now you know what I mean? Yeah, be there, be square. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be a dumb bitch. Don't be a square area.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I mean, you know, besides the fact that
Speaker 1: uh literally everyone um I know cheats on their boyfriend
Speaker 1: and girlfriend and it eats out my soul so much
Speaker 1: that I had trouble sleeping. I have a migraine net
Speaker 1: right now, And I like, I started grinding my teeth
Speaker 1: in my sleep because it was giving me so much anxiety.
Speaker 1: And I go, well, I'm just never gonna my resolutions.
Speaker 1: I'm just never gonna have a boyfriend again. Then you
Speaker 1: can't get me. That'll show them right there with you
Speaker 1: man alone forever it is, you know what, nothing more
Speaker 1: alone than being cheated on. Yeah, totally true. But I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: we live in we're evolving as a people, you know,
Speaker 1: of plan, well we we Why why aren't people having
Speaker 1: these conversations? And I don't know because I'm not in
Speaker 1: the relationship, so I don't know. You know, maybe they are,
Speaker 1: but I wants to kill themselves. So did you know that, Christina?
Speaker 1: It's a new thing. It's serious. Yes, huh okay, holy
Speaker 1: corrupt Are you serious? That was the topic at the
Speaker 1: baby shower I was at yesterday. How we're creating robots
Speaker 1: todaygo I'm autie boy, and I go, wow, these machines
Speaker 1: are smarter than us, Like we can navigate being sexually
Speaker 1: interested in other people while we're in a relationship, Like
Speaker 1: this is a conversation that can be had, Like technically,
Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you, but number one, I
Speaker 1: think it's not as sexually like titillating. And then number two,
Speaker 1: I mean you you see when we try to interview
Speaker 1: Maile comedians on this podcast, what happens. I know there
Speaker 1: themselves gay in their head for for thinking about vulnerability.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, so this is like this
Speaker 1: is why they can't get to that. I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, just have this, Oh my god, how
Speaker 1: do we how do we prevent this? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, how do you like why you know,
Speaker 1: just being sterilization. I'm calling for it now, mass sterilization.
Speaker 1: Just I start buying thrying put it in the water, Biden,
Speaker 1: put it in the water, put it in the duncan. Okay,
Speaker 1: America runs on tail as sperm um. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: like just I think every couple should have a conversation
Speaker 1: about infidelity, like just and you could just say like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's talk about infidelity. What are your feelings on it?
Speaker 1: Like what have you? You know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: if you haven't had that conversation with your partner, because
Speaker 1: I know we all assume monogamy, which is kind of changing,
Speaker 1: but not much. I feel like maybe ten like ninety
Speaker 1: percent of couples still assume monogamy. Um, but just have
Speaker 1: a conversation about infidelity, because there's workarounds that you don't
Speaker 1: even know where there yet unless you talk to each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got, I mean, it's just for me. What's the
Speaker 1: point of being getting cheated on? Sucks man, But what's
Speaker 1: the point of being in a relationship If you can't
Speaker 1: take that person on their word to me? Then that
Speaker 1: it is meaning for sure? Right, But you don't know
Speaker 1: what the word is unless you have the conversation. Right,
Speaker 1: you're just assuming we're not going to cheat on each other,
Speaker 1: which is a safe assumption. Well, I don't assume that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, but before I enter like
Speaker 1: a monogaous monogamous relationship, I have a talk about it
Speaker 1: for sure, right right right? And I think I just
Speaker 1: a reminder out there, just have a talk about it,
Speaker 1: because if anything, at least you can you know, if
Speaker 1: you find out you're getting cheated on, after you've had
Speaker 1: this discussion, you could just look them in the eye
Speaker 1: and be like, I knew I was going to be disappointed.
Speaker 1: You back up a second, Why is it bad to
Speaker 1: assume that you're not going to get cheated on when
Speaker 1: you enter into a relationship. Well, I I think it's
Speaker 1: well because cheating happens is so common. I think it
Speaker 1: should be good to assume you're not going to get
Speaker 1: cheated on. However, I feel like people like this chick
Speaker 1: can we emailed us, they could convince themselves that ship's
Speaker 1: cool and it's actually not. But just because it happens often,
Speaker 1: isn't the point points of the relationship that you're you
Speaker 1: are right exactly? You would think you would think. Well,
Speaker 1: for me, I always have a conversation about like listen, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we if if you want to have if
Speaker 1: you find yourself like sexually drawn to someone else, like
Speaker 1: we can have a conversation about it. But like just
Speaker 1: please don't let me find this out from someone else,
Speaker 1: like like yeah, because then the trust is broken and
Speaker 1: then we're done. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: that's a good conversation to have because it's like, oh, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world if I'm attracted
Speaker 1: to somebody else, because no, of course not. I would
Speaker 1: never expect someone to not be ever tracing to someone else.
Speaker 1: That's insane. But I think the fact of just bringing
Speaker 1: that up in and of itself can ease the nerves
Speaker 1: around it. And maybe maybe you know, I'm an idealist here,
Speaker 1: but uh, maybe um decrease your odds of cheating or
Speaker 1: being cheated on. But doesn't Doesn't that mean that a
Speaker 1: relationship is like doomed from start if you go into
Speaker 1: a relationship with the paranoia. But it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: a paranoia standpoint, it's a it's a Hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: human being on this planet. I have other human being friends.
Speaker 1: I know, we know what happens in relationship. Yea, we're
Speaker 1: one hundred percent going to be attracted to someone else.
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't go at it's okay, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go in. I wouldn't necessarily have a conversation about cheating,
Speaker 1: but I would have a conversation about being wanting to
Speaker 1: have sex with other people. Yeah, because it's going to
Speaker 1: happen eventually. It's just scientific honestly, it's it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: come up. The likelihood of it coming up is high,
Speaker 1: so you might as well, you know, talk about it
Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is a thing that's on the table.
Speaker 1: It's a situation that could happen, and we can have
Speaker 1: a conversation if in what it doesn't happen, it happens.
Speaker 1: I often have a conversation about have you ever cheated
Speaker 1: on a partner before? I always ask that because that's
Speaker 1: because I think you know, if you already have done it,
Speaker 1: you're more prone to have done it again to do
Speaker 1: it again. Do you think this is generational because you're
Speaker 1: saying that the likelihood is high, But I would love
Speaker 1: to quickly take a poll. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys, all right, I'll say that I believe firmly
Speaker 1: that neither of my parents have ever cheated on each
Speaker 1: other at any point in their relationship. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys feel that way about your parents.
Speaker 1: You don't think that they have. I think they probably
Speaker 1: there probably was something on one of the ends, Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really think that A million dollars
Speaker 1: of which I'd be like, yeah, okay, if I had
Speaker 1: to do that, I think it actually happened probably yeah,
Speaker 1: But I yeah, yeah, I don't think about it because
Speaker 1: I am my parents like for me, I don't care, though.
Speaker 1: I think a modern thing is like that is like
Speaker 1: that kids get are a little too obsessed with like
Speaker 1: how their parents romance affects their romantic life, when the
Speaker 1: only thing I looked to my parents for was like,
Speaker 1: did they do a good job raising my brother and I?
Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't blame them for my romantic issues.
Speaker 1: And that's like a bone that I have to pick with,
Speaker 1: especially like modern therapy. But I'm not talking about our
Speaker 1: romantic issues. I'm just talking about you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so I didn't think about it because it doesn't pertain
Speaker 1: to me. That's the thing that's their problems. But don't know,
Speaker 1: don't know, don't care how thought about. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about if if we're looking at pure numbers and likelihood,
Speaker 1: like I think that, Uh, it's not to say that
Speaker 1: that like from a generational standpoint, it's a fact that
Speaker 1: the generation before us and the generation before that, we're
Speaker 1: sort of more likely to just enter into a relationship
Speaker 1: understanding that there were like rules and parameters and that
Speaker 1: was that. And they didn't don't necessarily agree that there
Speaker 1: was less that there is more cheating now than that
Speaker 1: there than that there was previously. Because even though there's
Speaker 1: more options now because of social media, there's also more
Speaker 1: ways to find out and get caught. Now that's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I I actually true. I'm just it's being unveiled yea.
Speaker 1: The victual statistics that have been their own was the
Speaker 1: lipstick on the collar type of like, yeah that was
Speaker 1: that was boyfriend's instagram dums. I think maybe women are
Speaker 1: can cheat more now because they're out of the house
Speaker 1: more now. And I think it was like harder for women,
Speaker 1: you know, because if you're it's harder to cheat in
Speaker 1: your own house, like if you're married. Yeah, whereas men
Speaker 1: going to work, you know, having female secretaries and stuff,
Speaker 1: I think it was like cheating at them working late
Speaker 1: hours you have a reason to sort of be out
Speaker 1: of the house later or whatever. Yeah. So I think
Speaker 1: maybe like cheating is more like feminists now, like it's
Speaker 1: more equal. Thank god, I would I would, I would think, God, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think that. But I mean, you know, also,
Speaker 1: like the rate of how much sex we have has
Speaker 1: gone down, right, So to me, that doesn't point towards
Speaker 1: more cheating. Also too, in a in a long term relationship,
Speaker 1: most long term relationships, the spark goes away. The lust
Speaker 1: for each other certainly fades. We all know that. But
Speaker 1: then also like your sexual attraction to that person might
Speaker 1: fade as well, and then you're like, ah shit, I
Speaker 1: really want to feel like alive sexually again, and you
Speaker 1: kind of can't. You know, you can work do the
Speaker 1: work to feel that with your long term partner, but
Speaker 1: most people don't. So I don't know. This is all
Speaker 1: it's all combos up for grabs that should be had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you just start thinking, well, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose to them anyway, why like what's the point? Why
Speaker 1: am I even in this? Like I don't need like
Speaker 1: some about like you know, I need a partner. The
Speaker 1: reality is that we're all gonna be unless we like
Speaker 1: die young. But I'm knock gonna I don't know, hope
Speaker 1: this is whatever. Uh, we're all gonna be old and
Speaker 1: wrinkly one day, like oh geriatric, And you know, like
Speaker 1: I don't know just what a partnership is about. Is
Speaker 1: not all fucking but it's a big part of it.
Speaker 1: But it's like also companionship of like having someone there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the part that I don't need. So I go,
Speaker 1: why am I even putting myself through getting cheated on? Right? Right? Right? True?
Speaker 1: Truly conversation. I don't need this fucking headache. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I literally have a headache right now, right because because
Speaker 1: I'm surrounded like, don't you want to live in honest
Speaker 1: life people? I also don't want to be too judgmental about,
Speaker 1: you know, I have this like inner conflict, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to be too judgmental about you know, people
Speaker 1: slipping up once or twice. But these I'm talking about, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you slipped up once. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about cereal, planned, consistent, no regards for the other person's emotions, cheating.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about one time you fucked up. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course we're human. I'm not holding people to impossible
Speaker 1: fucking standards. Yeah, I'm talking about just don't give a
Speaker 1: fucking shit, embarrass my partner, zero respect to everyone knows
Speaker 1: about it. That's rude, that's disrespectful. Get my name out
Speaker 1: of your mouth, sir. Anyway, Uh, yeah, don't because just
Speaker 1: to live. It feels better to live honestly. Um, sorry,
Speaker 1: you adding from everybody cheating, But I'm a I'm also
Speaker 1: like I was also kind of like stunned by house,
Speaker 1: Like I like cried because it was so casually like
Speaker 1: they so casually I cried over someone getting that was
Speaker 1: not me, like not me, no one of my good friends.
Speaker 1: It's disheartening. And then why I and then I have
Speaker 1: to talk about in therapy this I go, why am
Speaker 1: I crying over that? I mean, it's just like I
Speaker 1: guess it's like these can these continuous like um, there's
Speaker 1: another waxes in faith on like of in humanity. I
Speaker 1: suppose I don't really really it's that's a bummer. That's
Speaker 1: a real bummer. But it's also like you don't have
Speaker 1: to exist like this, like you can if you want
Speaker 1: to fuck somebody else that bad, like why just talk
Speaker 1: to your partner about it? And then the relationship isn't
Speaker 1: gonna work because it's cheating is very especially serial cheating.
Speaker 1: It's so selfish. You're not allowing your partner to be
Speaker 1: in make an informed decision on whether they want to
Speaker 1: be with you because they don't know, like based off
Speaker 1: of what's actually happening in your relationship. It's really fucked up.
Speaker 1: And then it's like OK, and but it's like then
Speaker 1: it's also all these people like why are you people
Speaker 1: in relationships? They don't want to be alone. It's like
Speaker 1: a don't a fire relationship. It's like it's so to me,
Speaker 1: that's like weakness, Like you know, men are so concerned
Speaker 1: with like a peering week. It's like, to me, that's
Speaker 1: the ultimate week. But it's also too like when when
Speaker 1: I think of Esther Perell's book The State of Affairs,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people cheat and it isn't
Speaker 1: personal against their partner. It like genuinely isn't. I would
Speaker 1: think it's almost never personal exactly, and not to me
Speaker 1: is actually worse because it's a relationship. It is personal,
Speaker 1: like I'm dead to you when you're chick, right, cool, Right,
Speaker 1: you'ren't even gonna think about me where you're doing it?
Speaker 1: Fuck you anyway. Very disheartening. Yeah, it is, Yeah, is
Speaker 1: hot Michael. No, we're having a conversation earlier that was
Speaker 1: very interesting that we stopped because we're like we got
Speaker 1: to do this on the pod. Women don't have to
Speaker 1: believe in their women, which they are women, right. I
Speaker 1: will say the person I'm dating now and then the
Speaker 1: person that I dated before that they were very like
Speaker 1: they I don't think they could be attracted to a
Speaker 1: woman that like was battered her art like, but I
Speaker 1: but that's what you're telling yourself because it's important to you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like to flatter myself like that too, and then
Speaker 1: I go, I don't know that that was the case.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't I really how many actresses
Speaker 1: I've been been out with where I'm just like, she's
Speaker 1: gonna be really like I think Mike, more so than
Speaker 1: other men, actually cares about women being productive in society,
Speaker 1: and even he's letting slide. So you could date. You
Speaker 1: could date like somebody who's an artist that's really bad
Speaker 1: at their art, not not for real. I think that
Speaker 1: I could the couple. I could definitely Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: definitely fuck a guy who sucks at his art. But
Speaker 1: I could I do it all the time. I could
Speaker 1: sit through a date like I mean, I could go
Speaker 1: on I could go on a bunch of dates with
Speaker 1: a woman who like bunch of Yeah. But the women
Speaker 1: that I tend to really like that I want to
Speaker 1: get to a place too. I see a lot of
Speaker 1: potential in them in their professional aspect. But that's not
Speaker 1: always the case, as you revealed earlier. Well, I just
Speaker 1: think that well, well, I mean, there is obviously one
Speaker 1: particular case where I had a right rainy newman about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think that she had any real
Speaker 1: aspirations of herself on her own. Imagine casually about yourself
Speaker 1: on a pod. Yeah, I mean it was just like
Speaker 1: there was a time, this is actually pretty funny. There
Speaker 1: was a time where she had a regular job, like
Speaker 1: a like a corporate job, and she like wasn't going
Speaker 1: in on Fridays. This is years before the pandemic. It's
Speaker 1: like two three years. And this is a vague person
Speaker 1: because we don't want to get it's a big person. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I guess it's all alleged, yes, just alleged, alleged, alleged. Yes,
Speaker 1: this was this was a big person who like on Friday,
Speaker 1: she like wasn't going into work. She was always home.
Speaker 1: Before I was like, I had I had moments where
Speaker 1: I was just like, does this person actually have a job.
Speaker 1: She's like working at this corporate company, and and just
Speaker 1: is kind of like not. And then one day she
Speaker 1: was like I got fired from that job. And she
Speaker 1: had been fired for like a while, and I had
Speaker 1: no idea about it, and I just remember and then
Speaker 1: she kind of never really shot like a nanny and
Speaker 1: gig and never really talked about work again, and it
Speaker 1: was just kind of like I just have it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that was also to me that ended up being
Speaker 1: such a turn off because I you know, the women
Speaker 1: that I've dated since have, the ones that I've liked
Speaker 1: and really wanted to get serious with were like, you know,
Speaker 1: lawyers or interior designers or like doing and the like
Speaker 1: the girl who was an interior designer, I did believe
Speaker 1: in her talent, Like I didn't think she well you
Speaker 1: got yeah. But I don't think men. I don't think
Speaker 1: men do. I don't think men do. I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of them because what we do because it's
Speaker 1: everything cool. Every woman that I like that has been
Speaker 1: like this, that like is pursuing something they always complain
Speaker 1: about the men that they date kind of not really
Speaker 1: taking that aspect of their life very serious. Then that's
Speaker 1: the masculine versus feminine energy, because this is exactly what
Speaker 1: it talks about and getting to I do. It's the
Speaker 1: masculine energy has to be respected and the feminine energy
Speaker 1: has to be adored. It doesn't mean that the other
Speaker 1: one is not adored and the other one is not respected,
Speaker 1: but it means that it's not their primary position in
Speaker 1: the relationship, and so you kind of have to decide
Speaker 1: you want to be respected or adored. And then I
Speaker 1: said to my therapist by and then she goes, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, for one, I respect and adore myself and
Speaker 1: that and then we're good, right, you know, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't understand. It's to me, it is a very
Speaker 1: what what a peculiar concept to both respect and enjoy
Speaker 1: yourself and then let another person in, let a fucking
Speaker 1: stranger into my life who does not do both of
Speaker 1: those things too, right, And I'm the weird one, no,
Speaker 1: I know, And I've been feeling the exact same thing Coren.
Speaker 1: You and I've had many conversations off Mike, Yeah, about
Speaker 1: both of our frustrations, which I think are two sides
Speaker 1: of the same coin. But it is this dichotomy where
Speaker 1: it does kind of feel like I do think women
Speaker 1: are programmed to accept that, which is bad. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I do think women a lot of times women don't
Speaker 1: fully know what to do when they're with somebody that
Speaker 1: is like into them and supports them in the way
Speaker 1: that they're just not used to beway. Yeah, where they're
Speaker 1: just kind of like what do you mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: you're you're thinking about me, and you're like you're actually
Speaker 1: uh like seeing my potential and want it to be fulfilled.
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean you're willing to wait for
Speaker 1: me to take the bar? Like right, It's like stuff
Speaker 1: like that where I do think people are just like
Speaker 1: a lot of women are just kind of like what
Speaker 1: what I like? That definitely not specific personal specific detail.
Speaker 1: Mine wasn't that a specific person? Yeah, that's crazy. How
Speaker 1: did you ever come up with that? It's great doing
Speaker 1: some homework before you're doing one thing. I do say
Speaker 1: that I really love about I've always I always enjoyed,
Speaker 1: like I like dating somebody who you want Like you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's be like the best versions of ourselves, right,
Speaker 1: Like let's like work out and do stuff. And it's
Speaker 1: like that's a nice little accountability buddy. That's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a Nice's a nice part of a relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: because as you get older, you're like, oh, you wanted
Speaker 1: to find like what does a relationship mean to me?
Speaker 1: You're like, hmm, I just want to like like let's
Speaker 1: challenge ourselves to be like really healthy and like on
Speaker 1: it and like righte like get up in the morning
Speaker 1: and write, and then you do because you're together and
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, shit, I don't want to feel like
Speaker 1: I'm a lazy piece of shit from this person, and
Speaker 1: then you just do it. See that's just never happened
Speaker 1: to me, because I'm like, I'm going to do this
Speaker 1: stuff anyway, but then I don't want to do it
Speaker 1: at the fucking time that we agreed on. I'm an adult.
Speaker 1: What am I doing right now? Like what do I
Speaker 1: have a time? Yeah? I'm like, that's that's part of
Speaker 1: the problem, Like get at the funk out of my house. Um.
Speaker 1: I wanted to share two excerpts from this book, uh,
Speaker 1: because I haven't talked to Wow. No. I usually talk
Speaker 1: about my mom stuff frequently on this podcast. I heard
Speaker 1: so much good stuff about this. Jeanette mccurty, who was
Speaker 1: a co star of I Carley, wrote a book that
Speaker 1: is It's everywhere I'm Glad my Mom died. It's a
Speaker 1: number one York Times bestseller, kind of really bounces off
Speaker 1: the shelf. It really does well. And when you carry
Speaker 1: I think I talked about this. I think I talked
Speaker 1: about this on here. When you carry this book, there's
Speaker 1: you get reactions and you're like, I know what kind
Speaker 1: of childhood you had? Um, there's a lot. I've got
Speaker 1: a lot of people like my mom's age. Look at
Speaker 1: the like especially on planes, they're like, oh, well that's
Speaker 1: a really intense title. I'm like, well, maybe her mom
Speaker 1: was bad, you know, like you know, and then I
Speaker 1: get pissed. But um, it's a really good book. And
Speaker 1: if you have issues with your parents, it's I really
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm a little over halfway through the book,
Speaker 1: but I gotta say, if you have an issue with
Speaker 1: your parent, it was like a narcissist or was like
Speaker 1: severe mental illness. It's very interesting. She just talks about
Speaker 1: the first half is she's describing her childhood and oh,
Speaker 1: there's so many fucking similarities between me and her. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. But two excerpts that I wanted to
Speaker 1: share because I thought they were powerful. So her mom
Speaker 1: basically was like a Hollywood mom and really was pushing
Speaker 1: her for an entertainment career that she didn't get. Her
Speaker 1: mom didn't get to do the entertainment career thing, so
Speaker 1: she was pushing her daughter and she also pushed just
Speaker 1: straight up taught her daughter to have a needing disorder
Speaker 1: and said, calorie counting and like it, like you. But
Speaker 1: it was an interesting look because you go, her mom
Speaker 1: was very clearly mentally ill and watched her and you're like,
Speaker 1: her mom's not evil, but like, but the feelings that
Speaker 1: it will invoke in a child who just think, when
Speaker 1: you're a kid, unless your parent is like very brazenly abusive,
Speaker 1: you think your mom and dad are god. You think
Speaker 1: they're superheroes. You think they're the best. You think they
Speaker 1: have all the knowledge in the world. They feed me
Speaker 1: and they you know, like they they they are my
Speaker 1: um you know, gateway to life like they are. You
Speaker 1: look up to them and you admire them as role models. Um,
Speaker 1: and it messes you up when you when you grow
Speaker 1: up and you're like, oh wait, not only were you
Speaker 1: not the role model I thought, but you were actually
Speaker 1: very harmful and abusive to me. It's just such it's
Speaker 1: such a mind fuck. Well and then just to interject
Speaker 1: before you time, I was actually she saw this clip
Speaker 1: right before I went to bed last night. Um. Do
Speaker 1: you know Tabitha Brown? Yeah, so her so her daughter. Um,
Speaker 1: there was just like a little like red carpet interview
Speaker 1: or something, and her daughter was also there with her
Speaker 1: and her and she was said this thing. She was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: this is my mom, but this is also tab this
Speaker 1: is Tabitha Brown, like she's her own person. And part
Speaker 1: of me growing up was like realize that I had
Speaker 1: to empathize with her as an actual human being separate
Speaker 1: from being my mom. And I thought that was like
Speaker 1: an interesting thing that we often wise for forget because
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, when you're a young child, like your
Speaker 1: parents are perfect and our superheroes, and then you grow
Speaker 1: up and you see their flaws, but then we also
Speaker 1: have to have like the compassion that, Okay, well who
Speaker 1: could have done this perfectly? And that's not to take
Speaker 1: away from like abuse, you know, abusive situations or anything.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I think sometimes we only especially mom's
Speaker 1: over dads, We only see them as like, once they
Speaker 1: become a mom, their only role is mom, and that
Speaker 1: is really harmful to women. Yeah, and sometimes it even
Speaker 1: like it's even in the way they think about themselves,
Speaker 1: and I think it instricts marriages, It affects your sexuality,
Speaker 1: you know. We see it with Kim Kardashian. You know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she's a mom, so she can't
Speaker 1: post a sexy pick about herself bullshit on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she absolutely can put you with that pack pussy's pancake
Speaker 1: as yeah we want yeah yeah, yeah. Well again, there's
Speaker 1: also this thing that my um when I was in therapy,
Speaker 1: the seeing this woman who's specialized in trauma, she was like,
Speaker 1: you know, trauma thinking is black or white, and that's
Speaker 1: also child thinking too, Like, so when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: you're like, my mom is either good or evil, there's
Speaker 1: no in between, and that that carries through when you've
Speaker 1: been abused emotionally, physically, you know. Um. And so it's
Speaker 1: like having the dust settle on how your parents actually
Speaker 1: raised you versus what you told yourself how you told yourself.
Speaker 1: It went um, and then there's this moment where you go, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not because for the longest time, I was like,
Speaker 1: you're either good mom or you're bad, and you're not bad,
Speaker 1: so you're good. Like that's that was my thinking up
Speaker 1: until fucking twenty nine years old, to be honest, um,
Speaker 1: and so like existing in this with the thought of
Speaker 1: like you were both and it's okay. Is it's drawing
Speaker 1: to be. It feels raw, like it feels fucked up
Speaker 1: because it's not how you're used to thinking anyway. So
Speaker 1: the first episode, um is, my anxiety causes me to
Speaker 1: be a people pleaser. My anxiety causes me to take
Speaker 1: the picture and sign my autograph and say it's a
Speaker 1: good one. But underneath that anxiety is a deep, unearthed
Speaker 1: combination of feelings that I fear to face. I fear
Speaker 1: that I'm bitter. I'm too young to be bitter, especially
Speaker 1: as a result of a life that people supposedly envy.
Speaker 1: And I fear because her mom was just like people
Speaker 1: will kill for this opportunity, Janet, And I fear that
Speaker 1: I resent my mother, the person I've lived for, my idol,
Speaker 1: my role model, my one true love. YO. That shit
Speaker 1: got me because you it's so intense. You go from
Speaker 1: like you're the best person on this earth. You are,
Speaker 1: you've been through so much, you're so strong, to like,
Speaker 1: fuck you bitch. It's a wild it's wild, but it
Speaker 1: feels like it had to be to me. The giveaway
Speaker 1: that the child the parent was manipulative is that the
Speaker 1: child ever got to a point of thinking that their
Speaker 1: parent was their one true love. That's not normal. No,
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm now I'm it's like the last
Speaker 1: two years, I'm realizing that that's not normal. I would
Speaker 1: have like best friend necklaces and I would give my
Speaker 1: mom the other half. Yeah, it's not I I didn't
Speaker 1: know I was fucked up my mom. I mean one
Speaker 1: of the one of the things my mom always made
Speaker 1: clear to me was I'm your mom. I'm not your friend. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's so healthy. Do it. That's great. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a really important thing. Yeah, and you know, even
Speaker 1: you know now as a when you're older, you know,
Speaker 1: And I even used to say things like there was
Speaker 1: a point and I think probably in high school when
Speaker 1: I did consider my mom to be one of my
Speaker 1: best friends and not in an unhealthy way. Um, but
Speaker 1: it was never a best friendship where like we were equal.
Speaker 1: Like I still I still had to answer to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely have. I have I would say, a friendship
Speaker 1: with both my parents now in different ways. I text
Speaker 1: my dad almost every night about sports. It is, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like Krin said, they're my
Speaker 1: parents and there's not like I'm very aware of that.
Speaker 1: Like when you most each other but they're like I
Speaker 1: would never go as far with my mom as I would,
Speaker 1: you know, go with like love fur right right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out well and I look at like, you know,
Speaker 1: like the best friend necklace thing, you know, and she
Speaker 1: would eat that up. But I would do things to her.
Speaker 1: Her emotions were the first priority when I woke up
Speaker 1: in the morning and the last thing I thought about
Speaker 1: when I when I went to bed. And it's very
Speaker 1: similar with with Jeanette's book. Is it's crazy, but it's
Speaker 1: also like a like a failure in her part that
Speaker 1: she needed that she got something out of her daughter,
Speaker 1: giving her a emotional support friend necklace. Yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: I guess so right, Like it's like it's like her
Speaker 1: development hadn't finished right, right right, And and but then
Speaker 1: you go, it's just there's so many there's so many
Speaker 1: opposites to hold at the same time, because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you don't you don't mother your daughter
Speaker 1: that way because you had a great childhood, right like,
Speaker 1: so you know you didn't get the love and you
Speaker 1: didn't understand it, and so you're kind of unknowingly, you know,
Speaker 1: spewing it on your daughter or getting getting things from
Speaker 1: minding your daughter for self confidence. Yeah, well, okay, so
Speaker 1: you know I watched the Food Network constantly and so
Speaker 1: on all these cooking shows, they always ask you like,
Speaker 1: why are you here? You know, on Beat Bobby Flay
Speaker 1: and fucking eighty percent of the time the person there
Speaker 1: were chef's response is I just want my kids to
Speaker 1: be proud of me. And I get every time I go,
Speaker 1: what are we even talking about here? Yeah? I do
Speaker 1: you created another human so that you would have someone
Speaker 1: I sess I'm spitting out that you would have someone
Speaker 1: feeling proud of you. That is like such a wild
Speaker 1: foreign concept to me. Yeah, and I gotta say it
Speaker 1: doesn't help. Out of every mammal on this planet Earth,
Speaker 1: human beings have the longest childhood of any species on
Speaker 1: this planet Earth, eighteen years. Like if you are stuck
Speaker 1: with an emotionally manipulative or mentally apparent and like boys,
Speaker 1: it's a long time to carve those grooves in your
Speaker 1: brain that you guys do on carving your whole thirties.
Speaker 1: But this other passage that I was like, whoof woof
Speaker 1: oo was I'm realizing for the first time how exhausting
Speaker 1: it is to constantly curate my natural tendencies, responses, thoughts,
Speaker 1: and actions into whatever version Mom would like. Most Oh
Speaker 1: that I may I had to put down the book
Speaker 1: and like do that make that noise? A bunch of
Speaker 1: times without her around, I don't have to. I miss
Speaker 1: her deeply, and my heart aches over what she's going through,
Speaker 1: and I certainly feel a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: guilt about the ease I feel these days, but that
Speaker 1: ease is undeniable. Without her monitoring and weighing in on
Speaker 1: my every move, my life feels much easier. And I'm like, fuck, dude,
Speaker 1: that is just whoa You just really realize how how
Speaker 1: much it fuck's yet? But I well, did her mom
Speaker 1: actually die or did she just not stop talking to her? Uh?
Speaker 1: She can't So I'm not done with the book yet,
Speaker 1: but she hasn't. She has can's are pretty bad. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure at this point in the books. I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's like I had, you know, I'm sad for what
Speaker 1: she's going through. Yeah, and her mom convinced her that like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be a fat kid, and she
Speaker 1: this Jeanette starved herself. She ate lettuce for for for
Speaker 1: breakfast lunch, and didn't like, she didn't eat any thing.
Speaker 1: And then she started touring because she started like a
Speaker 1: musical career and um, and then her mom was six
Speaker 1: so she couldn't go in the row with her. Her
Speaker 1: mom showered hers until she was like eighteen and did
Speaker 1: inspections on her like her like it's it's abusive, but
Speaker 1: like you see, but you see the mom was the
Speaker 1: mom divorced. H no, no, because that's like I used
Speaker 1: she but she didn't like her husband and she they
Speaker 1: didn't like each other. I used to read things where
Speaker 1: like women would go through divorces and then they would
Speaker 1: have these like weird like lapses in like judgment and
Speaker 1: sanity where they would like remove their teen daughters like
Speaker 1: tampons for them, Like oh yeah, I heard that. I
Speaker 1: heard yeah going on there. Yeah. But you know when
Speaker 1: she says like all of these things that her mom
Speaker 1: says to her, and you're like, this woman doesn't mean
Speaker 1: to be evil, Like I'm not the right word, but like,
Speaker 1: but if you're Jeanette, or if you're on the receiving
Speaker 1: end and you're the kid and you're growing up and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, this was fucked up, it
Speaker 1: feels like they were evil. That doesn't matter the intent
Speaker 1: to because it's still the effect that it had on her,
Speaker 1: Yeah you know or yeah whoever? Um, but yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I you know, I'm trying to, like for for Lentz,
Speaker 1: giving up being inauthentic. Um. I'm also introducing a new
Speaker 1: concept into my repertoire, which is discernment. Um, you gotta know,
Speaker 1: and it's cool to tell people the truth. And when
Speaker 1: you just shut the fuck up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't need to know how you feel about them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we learn as we go. But um, but one thing
Speaker 1: that I've noticed in my growth in particular that was
Speaker 1: and I noticed it because it was such a fucking
Speaker 1: struggle for me and it would frustrate everyone in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, well, I don't know if I've done I'm
Speaker 1: sure I've done it with you. But um, when someone's
Speaker 1: like Cathar, like just emoting and having a bad day
Speaker 1: or something's wrong, to just let their feelings exist like
Speaker 1: just such try to fix it. Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I've had that. I had to have that talk with
Speaker 1: myself a couple of years ago too. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's but like the anxiety I would make it my
Speaker 1: mission to figure out how can we make you feel better?
Speaker 1: Whoever it was a boyfriend, Oh yeah, my mom obviously
Speaker 1: is number one, but friends or even strangers like and
Speaker 1: that's why the Patreon therapy that I do, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm noticing, like, oh, well, you're not actually trying to
Speaker 1: fix people's problem, Like this is in a in a
Speaker 1: you know, in a healthy way. But that's really cool
Speaker 1: to just let people because it really you can't bond
Speaker 1: with someone if you're always trying to fix them. Well,
Speaker 1: it felt weird because I just I think the the
Speaker 1: disconnect I had was that it felt like just complaining
Speaker 1: about something and then having no kind of strategy on
Speaker 1: how where you're going to go from there felt like
Speaker 1: lazy to me, right, um, But then I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you need the space to air the grievances. And then
Speaker 1: I think after a certain point of time, if someone
Speaker 1: you know for years is complaining about the same thing
Speaker 1: with your progress, that's different. But like you know, in
Speaker 1: the moment of you know, impact or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: they just need this space. And then I mean even like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, therapists will recommend saying like is this something
Speaker 1: you just want to talk about or do you want
Speaker 1: me to help you get through it? Like you can
Speaker 1: even ask that question. Yeah, if you can't discern on
Speaker 1: your own, Yeah, well I well, the thing I'm noticing
Speaker 1: is I'm getting really good at discerning that. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: good for me. And it's so much it's such an
Speaker 1: easier existence to interact with the world when you're not
Speaker 1: constantly like when someone comes with you with like something
Speaker 1: that's hard for them and you don't, you know, whip
Speaker 1: out your medical kit, your emotional first aid, Like, it's
Speaker 1: just it's such an easier way to exist well, because
Speaker 1: it feels like a wall if you're trying to like
Speaker 1: kind of just like complain to someone just to get
Speaker 1: it off your chest, and then they keep trying to
Speaker 1: present um ways to fix it, just feels like you're
Speaker 1: kind of like just running into a wall constantly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, So no relief, right right, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: highly recommend this book. It's really good. It's it's I
Speaker 1: have I read it like ten pages at a time
Speaker 1: because I'm a big audiobook out but this I wanted
Speaker 1: the physical book because I'm like, I can't ask book too.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous cover, I love I love everything about it,
Speaker 1: and I love I love her perspective. In the beginning,
Speaker 1: she was just talking about this is how I saw
Speaker 1: everything as a kid. Like I said, this is this
Speaker 1: is what my mom said to me, and this is
Speaker 1: why this is my train of thought as a child,
Speaker 1: as a response to what she was doing. And you're like, oh, man, kids, really,
Speaker 1: kids don't know you know what You don't know until
Speaker 1: you know her mom and your mom have in common.
Speaker 1: That maybe was it was. It was like a little
Speaker 1: tip off what they both spell names crazy. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not the way you spell Jeannette at all. That's a misspelling.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell it. Say Jeanette your name spell yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry girl, maybe at the side if your name spell wacky.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me so everywhere for once in a while,
Speaker 1: people ask me, did oh, did you change the spelling
Speaker 1: your name for like the stage. I'm like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: pick this to be more interesting. No. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: gotta change the spelling your name to be interesting, you
Speaker 1: got you got an issue. But yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: great book. I highly recommend it if you have issues
Speaker 1: with your parents. It's just very interesting to watch how
Speaker 1: someone else handles it and you're like, you really see
Speaker 1: the trajectory of like, oh man, when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't and you don't I'm so
Speaker 1: that's a good model for childhood. You don't know, you
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't know, you don't know. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But that's where my perfectionism came in because I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I you know, my mom's doing these things that stressed
Speaker 1: me out, but I felt so guilty for being stressed
Speaker 1: out over her. Then I'm like, this has to be
Speaker 1: my problem, like what is wrong with me? And that's
Speaker 1: where you develop these perfectionist tendencies and we being a
Speaker 1: perfectionism is a terrible life sentence that you can eradicate
Speaker 1: yourself from. But you gotta work on that. And then
Speaker 1: real quick, um, just because I've gotten you know, it's
Speaker 1: in the cultural zeite guys price now and it's I've
Speaker 1: been getting a bunch of dams about it, I wanted
Speaker 1: to quickly go over equally as important to childhood trauma
Speaker 1: about Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez. Well just okay, so
Speaker 1: what I didn't even flowly read up on this, but
Speaker 1: basically it's you know, most people who are you know,
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber fans for the most part, liked him better
Speaker 1: with Selena Gomez than with his wife. He made the decision, guys.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's made it clear who he
Speaker 1: shows Tom Haley, you know, Hally Baldwin Bieber, they're both religious.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of things in common. Well, and
Speaker 1: now there's this new trend on like TikTok and stuff
Speaker 1: where they're finding all these these circumstances under which Haley
Speaker 1: Bieber apparently copied Selena Gomez, and they'll like find a
Speaker 1: clip of Haley Bieber being like, this is my grandma,
Speaker 1: not even shitting with you, And then they'll find it
Speaker 1: a clip of Selena Gomez going this is my grandma Internet,
Speaker 1: and they go, this crazy bitch, Selena did it first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's the sea she's older, so yes she did.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Internet used this energy to make funny
Speaker 1: memes go on, and it got so intense that like
Speaker 1: Haley Bieber lost like millions of followers and Selena Gomez
Speaker 1: gained millions of followers. Selena Gomez is now the most
Speaker 1: followed woman on Instagram, but it was never between her
Speaker 1: and Haley. I think it was like Kim Kardashian and
Speaker 1: then also Ariana Grande is usually pretty pretty up there. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's it's and there's you know, people asking me
Speaker 1: what I think about it. What I think about it
Speaker 1: is that we're we are all, we are all causing
Speaker 1: a much huger issue, and like, well, I agree, perhaps
Speaker 1: maybe some things that like you know, the Generals or
Speaker 1: or Haley Bieber did were maybe bullying. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you would act out too if the entire like
Speaker 1: female fan base of your husband was like actively rooting
Speaker 1: for your demise. Ye know about out, man, I just
Speaker 1: don't care how self actualized you are. That sucks. I
Speaker 1: just think this is another instance of people really having
Speaker 1: absolutely no idea what it's like to be famous at all,
Speaker 1: and certainly not that level of mega famous. And you know,
Speaker 1: both Selena and Haley have been in the limelight for
Speaker 1: a long time and they can navigate that however they
Speaker 1: want to. But what's not helping with you know, female
Speaker 1: relations is us all picking like teams Selena or team Haley,
Speaker 1: and certainly not us like nit picking a marriage that
Speaker 1: two adults consensually entered. They're like, oh, justin Bieber married
Speaker 1: a fan. It's like, yeah, him and every other guy
Speaker 1: I know who's in who's a famous guy married? Elvis
Speaker 1: married a fan? Like everyone married a fan, guys, because
Speaker 1: because as a fan, that's what a certain type of
Speaker 1: man wants. And so why is this, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're want to nitpick in this, why isn't this more
Speaker 1: of a reflection of who Justin Bieber is? Like why
Speaker 1: is this a reflection on Like Selena was hurt by
Speaker 1: that relation to shit obviously, but I think she had
Speaker 1: her own journey to go on, and like Haley wanted
Speaker 1: to enter this marriage, Like what are we even talking about?
Speaker 1: How do you guys have this much time? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can use it better? Well. I also I also think
Speaker 1: that like time spent on analyzing like celebrities in that way,
Speaker 1: like if you're going to actually unfollow Hailey and then
Speaker 1: go follow Seleen, it you there's something in you that
Speaker 1: you're not looking at. Like I like it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I like a little celebrity gossip. I mean, obviously I
Speaker 1: had a Justin Bieber podcast, but that was to me
Speaker 1: was more like entertainment. It wasn't like I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to like zone in on like negativity. It was like,
Speaker 1: I really love this person, and you know, I'm fascinated
Speaker 1: by the concept of fame in general and how it
Speaker 1: affects the psyche and how it affects how other people
Speaker 1: see you. You have a curiosity about it, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what fuels your interest in it. This like pitting women
Speaker 1: against each other thing and just is it's not a
Speaker 1: good look, no matter, and one of them very well
Speaker 1: could be evil. I don't even know, nor do I
Speaker 1: fucking care. Yeah, yeah, it's not who gives you guys,
Speaker 1: work on yourself. It's just the weirdest thing I see, like,
Speaker 1: you know, full on adults like stitching TikTok's where they're
Speaker 1: like watching these comparisons and like eating noodles like they
Speaker 1: got the tea. It's like, learn a trade, bitch, What
Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Yeah, it's a lot. And
Speaker 1: this is coming from a thirty seven year old woman
Speaker 1: who actively tries to make Lewis Capaldi fall in love
Speaker 1: with her, right right, at least that's me trying to
Speaker 1: reach something for myself. Okay, I'm sure of paying my
Speaker 1: own mortgage. Also, I'm just gonna throw it out there,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to get interested in do
Speaker 1: deep dives and stuff. Look up you know, life after Death,
Speaker 1: look up mediate watch watch Surviving Death on Netflix. Like
Speaker 1: look at the alience. Look there's there's alien learn how
Speaker 1: to invest yeah, or that yeah, or or look into
Speaker 1: all the evidence about alien life and realize that there's
Speaker 1: meditations in the United States, meditation retreats where they call
Speaker 1: on aliens and it's actually happened. Or just learn how
Speaker 1: to change a tire, or that you know all these
Speaker 1: something mean, yeah, just interests that you're like, we're human
Speaker 1: beings and we were gifted with curiosity, right, like use that.
Speaker 1: Don't when stuff makes you feel icky, catch yourself with that,
Speaker 1: because there's no way that you're if you're grossly involved
Speaker 1: in the Hailey Selina stuff that you don't feel good
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean, Like redirect your energy.
Speaker 1: Although I will say I have come in team Haley
Speaker 1: over here. Of all the strategies that I've had in
Speaker 1: mind to try to get Duelipa's attention, I have yet
Speaker 1: to think of the strategy to besmirch the people that
Speaker 1: she's dating. And I think right now it's Jack Harlow
Speaker 1: was at the last update we got yeah, a sex tape.
Speaker 1: I didn't you wouldn't see me to try to make
Speaker 1: Jack Harlow look bad on the internet. So that would
Speaker 1: be so funny though, as like if you did it
Speaker 1: as a parody of the behaviors. Honestly, if you earnestly
Speaker 1: try to like dis Jack, Jack Harlow wouldn't really like
Speaker 1: Jack Harlow. That's one of the reasons why the Duelipa
Speaker 1: situation is such a bummer. She's my biggest celebrity crush ever.
Speaker 1: But he's also pretty cool. He seems pretty cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of like, all right, if they're going
Speaker 1: to be together, that's meant to be. But like when
Speaker 1: I saw she was dating like some other losers, is like,
Speaker 1: get out of here. You should be with me. But wow,
Speaker 1: you know, well that's what what I dear, you will leap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like when I found out Louis Capaldi was dating someone,
Speaker 1: I looked her up and I go, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a really hot girl. Yeah, hot woman, successful career, great,
Speaker 1: great workers, this is good. You back to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, whatever, hope it works out. But if
Speaker 1: it doesn't, I followed her, I said, I also like
Speaker 1: these photos. Yeah, yeah, I know, wait, doesn't she follow you?
Speaker 1: She watched my Instagram stories, probably because she was like,
Speaker 1: who's this? Who is this old lady older trying to
Speaker 1: get at my man's hilarious? Oh my god? You know
Speaker 1: what else is hilarious? Today's yest Oh boy, you know
Speaker 1: it's happy Saint Patrick Patrick, Happy Saint Patrick's day, everybody. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to um at
Speaker 1: Colin Smith music. He follow him. He's going to be
Speaker 1: the music of this episode. Um. He's from Dublin and
Speaker 1: I'm dating him and he's a great musician. And this
Speaker 1: is another Dublin boy that we're going to be interviewed, interviewing.
Speaker 1: He's a standard comedian and he's the co host of
Speaker 1: a column, Turtle Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to
Speaker 1: the show Calum Turle. Find my favorite tree changes all
Speaker 1: around how it used to be skattered on the ground.
Speaker 1: The tree will not resist, branches in their sway, floating
Speaker 1: with the ship free in every way, not like you
Speaker 1: and me. Better to be sure, words of certainty so
Speaker 1: like a cure, but memories a kiss, promise from the
Speaker 1: past broken when we mix things not meant to slow
Speaker 1: down You're gonna be fine. Feel what you're gonna feel.
Speaker 1: Take up time down't runway the way we are here
Speaker 1: with stand up comedian. Call him turtles. Did I say right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was close. Yeah, call him turtle. Call him turtle
Speaker 1: till there's like a little sound that we don't make
Speaker 1: any English carol tear like a tear drop t call
Speaker 1: them turtle. Have it? Have you here? Thanks for me, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You're a Dublin boy. I'm a Dublin boy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh from the actual study. Yeah, from North Dublin, North County. Fancy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to visit I'm going to visit your home
Speaker 1: then for the first time at the end of this month.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, I'm excited. What do I need to know?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're just gonna have fun. Yeah, everyone
Speaker 1: loves it. Everyone. I've never heard anyone go to Ireland. No,
Speaker 1: it feels like a challenge. No, honestly, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: It's such a beautiful country. If you don't like it,
Speaker 1: it's on you. Yeah, that's gray, that's fair. I've got
Speaker 1: like a copy and paste that I send a bunch
Speaker 1: of people. I'm sure you know. Yeah, yeah, I'll be
Speaker 1: a paste of things to do. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Actually
Speaker 1: I did go and send it to you. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: I was like my best friend me to a very
Speaker 1: extensive itizing I'm sure, I'm sure, where are you going?
Speaker 1: Going everywhere? I don't. I just signed up for the
Speaker 1: trip and I said, take me where you're gonna take me.
Speaker 1: We have a car. I'm not there planet. You just
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I'm just going. I'm just going. Yeah, Dublin's
Speaker 1: gray for a couple of days, but you want to
Speaker 1: see the rest. Oh yeah, you don't know. We're not
Speaker 1: staying in Dublin. Yeah, we're only doing that. And then
Speaker 1: I'm a shruggle last, Like we're staying for like two
Speaker 1: and a half days. I'm doing a show and then
Speaker 1: we're leaving. Oh great, the audience are great. Yeah that'd
Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, hell yeah, I'm excited. I love hearing
Speaker 1: people go to Ireland. Yeah it's gorgeous. Everyone says that's
Speaker 1: the most beautiful place. Um, but we're here to talk
Speaker 1: about sex and relationships, so we there's The New York
Speaker 1: Times did this thing where they said there's these thirty
Speaker 1: six questions that you can ask any partner, and they'll
Speaker 1: lead to love, I guess, or hate possibly because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't they can't guarantee that you'll like people's answers.
Speaker 1: But we we've asked each other a couple of them.
Speaker 1: This is like NLPA type stuff, like that neuro linguistic
Speaker 1: programming where you kind of like coerce people into loving you.
Speaker 1: Is is that what that means? It's like, these are
Speaker 1: leading questions. I don't know if can you send me
Speaker 1: the link? I guess, I guess possibly. But also it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they say it's like a vulnerable questions, but
Speaker 1: for me, when I was reading them, I'm like, well, yes,
Speaker 1: it could lead to love if you like the people's answers,
Speaker 1: but if you don't, could lead to hate. It helps
Speaker 1: you defy a bond with a person, or it makes
Speaker 1: you realize you don't like them. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. We're gonna ask you one you just one,
Speaker 1: not all. We'll try hard not to. We'll try so
Speaker 1: hard not to. Well, I think it's yeah, we decided
Speaker 1: it's a good way to get to know our guests
Speaker 1: even better. Okay, so this is I think this is
Speaker 1: not too hard for you. So if a crystal ball
Speaker 1: could tell you the truth about yourself, your life, the future,
Speaker 1: or anything else, what would you want to know that myself,
Speaker 1: the future, anything else? Yeah, yeah, your yourself, your life,
Speaker 1: your future or anything else. Life just so just a
Speaker 1: anything that was just a long way of saying anything
Speaker 1: I do. I guess I'd love the future, But also
Speaker 1: what would you want to know about it? Just like stock?
Speaker 1: Probably stock stocks like money? Yeah yeah, just like one results,
Speaker 1: yeah right right right on their dog boxing results. Wow,
Speaker 1: I put the house on a baby. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you can know anything, and then you just want
Speaker 1: like to help your sports gambling. I would just become
Speaker 1: rich from yeah pretty much. Well it's like I think
Speaker 1: you only get I don't think it's like you get
Speaker 1: the stats like continuously from the crystal ball. I think
Speaker 1: it's like you would get you have to make a major,
Speaker 1: major bet on like one fight. Yeah yeah, but what
Speaker 1: would I know about myself? Just like what would you
Speaker 1: want to know? I'm in the nihile about stuff or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love asking men vulnerable questions and
Speaker 1: then watching them be like my brain never even moved
Speaker 1: into the I don't know, laying about that like I like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you'll fall in love with someone, or
Speaker 1: like when you'll die, or if you're in there on
Speaker 1: the right pathway with your life. And you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I just want to know if, like khaki ow w,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if. Of course, this is this
Speaker 1: is why women got to psychics. They're always like telling them,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're such suckers. Whatever. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been to a psychic? No? I haven't. No, Okay, I
Speaker 1: thought of going. Never, Yeah I would. I would for fun.
Speaker 1: Kind of like it was like I said, of a
Speaker 1: house party party and there is a psyche. People have
Speaker 1: done that, Yeah, for sure, they'll rent the psychic and
Speaker 1: then in the corner they're telling people that have done
Speaker 1: to die. Right, it's kind of like not fun, just
Speaker 1: money you make? Bang, you got one more decade? Love girl? Yeah,
Speaker 1: be aware of a guy named Tom or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to know. Like what would I find
Speaker 1: out about myself? That's curious, Like what's an example of that?
Speaker 1: What would they say? Hey, you know three you actually do?
Speaker 1: Like will I get married to? Think? That's just you
Speaker 1: haven't tried a long time. We're talking psychedelic mushrooms like mushrooms.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he means salad mushou. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could find that out real quick. That's really funny. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I just don't understand what they would tell
Speaker 1: me about myself, Like, I don't know what I would
Speaker 1: learn that, Like, you know, hey, let the future. I
Speaker 1: can do the future. Futures are. I guess what would
Speaker 1: you want to know about your future? In particular? I
Speaker 1: guess when I'm gonna die? Maybe? Yeah, you would want
Speaker 1: to know that, I guess, because then that would go
Speaker 1: Like a real guy, I think everyone should should know
Speaker 1: when they're gonna die. That was a great I just
Speaker 1: had a great idea, never even heard in the studio.
Speaker 1: You bleeped out how stupid my comment was. That's what
Speaker 1: that was. That was my bad. There's a computer update,
Speaker 1: new board. Sorry guys. Wait, okay, so here's another one.
Speaker 1: When did you last cry in front of another person
Speaker 1: that by yourself? Am? I don't know when was that
Speaker 1: time I cried? Wow? Yeah, when was the last time
Speaker 1: I cried? I really can't think of when I ate mushrooms? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really can't think these are terrible? Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: when you were like a carponar and has mushroom on it,
Speaker 1: and yeah, but you never read the menu. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: has to be a lot, right, that's a tough life.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry hate rerent lifestyle. I'm really embarrassed about it too,
Speaker 1: because I think if you're a picky eater, it's a
Speaker 1: real sign of weakness. That's so irishributed mushrooms are common
Speaker 1: to not like, though I didn't like them for years.
Speaker 1: It's like one of my favorite things now, but for
Speaker 1: years I didn't like that. I agree, expensive restaurant, and
Speaker 1: then I hate it, but I feel like it's expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the food and the taste, the menu you
Speaker 1: gotta go for. You know you're a picky eater. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. Oh okay, so is like my only thing? Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: that's not bad at all. Yeah. I'm really embarrassed about it. Why.
Speaker 1: I just feel like you should just just toughen them
Speaker 1: up and eat the fucking mushroom. That's so irish. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't need to make yourself unhappy. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a real I think it's a
Speaker 1: red flag. It's a red flag something wrong with someone
Speaker 1: who doesn't need everton So what's wrong with you that
Speaker 1: you don't need mushrooms? Maybe you want to about it?
Speaker 1: So wait, what are your feelings on vegetarians? That and
Speaker 1: probably not? That's that's that's a choice of like I'm
Speaker 1: choosing not to eat that food. But if they were like,
Speaker 1: oh I don't like I don't like it, don't like fish?
Speaker 1: You go, what though, you don't like fish? Shut up?
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's a crazy human. So you think that
Speaker 1: it's it's weak to not like every taste of everything
Speaker 1: you got? Yeah, yeah, I mean do you like come?
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what are you talking about? I'm not
Speaker 1: against it. Rather you came the mushrooms. Have you tasted
Speaker 1: your own com I'm sure yeah, Yeah, sure, I've tasted
Speaker 1: my own Yeah, you've tasted your own comb? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta with the chef's cook I've definitely tasted it. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that as an experiment, I don't remember it tasting particularly.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't like anything didn't stay with you, didn't
Speaker 1: stay with you. No, it's not it's not fucking doesn't
Speaker 1: smell great. I'll tell you that. Oh this is a problem,
Speaker 1: is it? I think, like, what, like, what is the smell?
Speaker 1: It's kind of like bleachy pancake, bleachy pancake batter. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I think google it. I know you girls have experienced
Speaker 1: in a lot of calm. Yeah, I'll google it real quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm literally googling right now. The words happens. And there's
Speaker 1: these there's these trees like the season and in New York,
Speaker 1: there's these certain trees that bloom that smell like jiz,
Speaker 1: just straight up interesting. It's wild. One Reddit results, why
Speaker 1: does semen smell like pancake batter? Pancake dot com? Semen
Speaker 1: normally smells like ammonia, bleach, or chlorine, So maybe maybe
Speaker 1: cal I've had the chlorine one before. You're right on track. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. What it is, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't explain why there's no like scientific backing here.
Speaker 1: Semen is about one percent sperm and ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: other compounds, and I don't like that and other compounds.
Speaker 1: Many of these substances and other ingredients and other natural flavors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are the flavors. It's many of these substance substances
Speaker 1: are alkaline. This means that they're above a seven on
Speaker 1: the pH scal, which is measured from zero highly highly.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true. It's like in the middle on the
Speaker 1: alkaline scale, in the middle. Yeah, seven out of fourteen essentially. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just a mid mid com. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I used to drink a lot of pineapple juice by
Speaker 1: that because you heard the rumor. Is that just a
Speaker 1: rumor for me? Yeah? But although when a guy does
Speaker 1: eat asparagus, it does the pee smells, but also the
Speaker 1: jiz smells. Wow. Yeah yeah. Taco Bell also, I think
Speaker 1: marked difference in the common taste. Those are the only ones.
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's not great. I've heard spicy food apparently
Speaker 1: affects it, so that taco Bell would make sense. Well,
Speaker 1: but I mean, how spicy is that? Even the spiciest
Speaker 1: sauce that taco Bell is not that spicy. Also, how
Speaker 1: much of an effect? Like how much of an effect
Speaker 1: are you really gonna go? What do you have to
Speaker 1: guzzle it? You know you've had you've had comment from
Speaker 1: somebody after they've eaten a syagust Yeah yeah, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean when you're in your having your relationship, you're like,
Speaker 1: let's just have a science experiment. See okay, you know, literally,
Speaker 1: if you did the pineapple thing. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I see if you come taste different and
Speaker 1: did with asparagus. Yeah, sometimes you just gotta reach. That's
Speaker 1: how I started peeing on people, right right, cool, because
Speaker 1: you gotta Yeah, you just gotta keep it interesting for
Speaker 1: you in the water sports calumn. No, only as a prank.
Speaker 1: You prank a pete on somebody, on people in the shower, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like in the shower, wait women or yeah. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: man pissed on a guy once. Actually tell us more
Speaker 1: about that. He was a friend of mine. Well was yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's back in the island and he was gay,
Speaker 1: and we were just drinking at his house. It was
Speaker 1: late and I was like, I'm not gonna go for
Speaker 1: a piss and he was like, why don't you piss
Speaker 1: on me? And I was like no, and he's like
Speaker 1: why not, And I was like, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: So I pissed. I passed on him. Took you no convincing, yeah, read,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, it was just so yeah, that kind
Speaker 1: of happened on him. I'm not gay, but if I was,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. Yeah, Peter, listen, it didn't really bother me.
Speaker 1: I had to piss anyway, so I might as well
Speaker 1: pee on him for his sexual gratification. It's not sexual
Speaker 1: to you, so it doesn't matter. It didn't really matter
Speaker 1: to me. Now I would be like saying, in a
Speaker 1: guy dick picked that I just having my phone. It
Speaker 1: doesn't even make any difference in my life. Right, you're
Speaker 1: not sitting there like seething over the fact that he's
Speaker 1: jerking off to your penis, Well you're not. At the beginning,
Speaker 1: he wasn't jerking off. And then I couldn't do I
Speaker 1: froze up, which is very funny because if you ever
Speaker 1: can't get hard with a character, sometimes girls don't react great.
Speaker 1: If you not get hard, you know, it's very like,
Speaker 1: you know, the personal insult. But if you can't pee
Speaker 1: for a guy, he's very confiding. He's like, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it, it's fine. Yeah. He comfort me. And then
Speaker 1: I had to talk I swear I had to talk
Speaker 1: to myself. And this has gone out to way too
Speaker 1: many people for me to be telling the story. I
Speaker 1: had to like talk myself with a Maragon, you fucking
Speaker 1: piss on this guy? Yeah? And then I yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I did it, but there was too much splashback
Speaker 1: so I had to stop. Oh wow, yeah, so that
Speaker 1: means you have a strong stream. I did at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was drinking all night. It was for you. Oh
Speaker 1: you did at the time. Okay, yeah, so that water
Speaker 1: and toilets. Yeah, so that's it. Yeah, but I've never
Speaker 1: I would do it if it was easier clean up.
Speaker 1: I'm not against it, you encounter. Does drinking affect your dick,
Speaker 1: but as it does most people. But sometimes yeah, there's
Speaker 1: you know, every once in a while, you get a
Speaker 1: hulkster who's like, I don't know, you can just get
Speaker 1: the balance perfect where it's like, you know, you're just
Speaker 1: your tanks, but you're also hard. Yeah, your tax are
Speaker 1: then you're gonna go a long time, right right right,
Speaker 1: it's like just the perfect thing. Yeah, it's a fine line.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've got whiskey dick loads of times. What
Speaker 1: do you do in those situations? Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm so old now, I'm just like, yeah, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Like, you know, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: not that you're like in your thirties, right, yeah, thirty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm thirty two and he said you're old now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. But I'm just saying, like, oh, I got whiskey, dick,
Speaker 1: You're something that like affect me, and I'm like embarrassed
Speaker 1: about it. It used to be embarrassed about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I would have. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I ever really got embarrassed about much of my life nice,
Speaker 1: other than the mushrooms. But the that's a weird one,
Speaker 1: I know. And that's a weird one. That's so straight.
Speaker 1: Did you get hit with the Irish Catholicism um a
Speaker 1: little bit, Yeah, but it was kind of faded out
Speaker 1: by the time I was nice. So I was born
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety so that and then most of the
Speaker 1: real scandalous stuff came out around ninety five. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's when there was like what kind of scandals were
Speaker 1: talking just all the reports of little kids getting did all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like babies getting buried in the arm. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of dead kids in the ground. You guys haven't
Speaker 1: talked about the dead baby we have. It's it's wild.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, there was like swimming pools of
Speaker 1: dead bodies. We talked about this on this podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: we've talked about abortion rights in Irish. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right in and then there was this one story of
Speaker 1: like this, like you know, nuns would basically you would
Speaker 1: send a pregnant teenager to these I don't know what
Speaker 1: they were called, called the Magdalen laundries. Okay, so and
Speaker 1: then but then you would send them there and then
Speaker 1: I guess the baby would be worn and then just
Speaker 1: buried like okay, that's worried alive baby. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But the way a lot of those
Speaker 1: kids got sent off for adoption to America, and then
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of those babies are turned out
Speaker 1: were actually just buried in like a grave. So they
Speaker 1: found like eight hundred bodies. Yeah, we we we mailed
Speaker 1: the babies off and then somebody came around with a
Speaker 1: shovel and they were like no, yeah, in Ireland, if
Speaker 1: you it's crazy, it's it's not many generations ago. Like
Speaker 1: if in Ireland, if you got pregnant out of wedlock,
Speaker 1: they would send you off to like the laundry because
Speaker 1: it was it was shameful for the family. They would say,
Speaker 1: you moved to England and they would send you to
Speaker 1: like a laundry where you would work. It's like just
Speaker 1: a prison essentially. Yeah, and then you would give birth
Speaker 1: and then they would do whatever they want with that kid,
Speaker 1: and then a lot of those women had to stay
Speaker 1: in that for the rest of their life. Oh yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The Magdalen laundries who check that out, they're all gone.
Speaker 1: I love that having a baby out of wedlock is
Speaker 1: more shameful than just like sending off a i'mily member
Speaker 1: for the rest of the time. Yeah, Ireland's really weird
Speaker 1: to boost stuff like that. It's all kind of worn
Speaker 1: out now, I believe. But like even suicide was a
Speaker 1: big thing, like people would kill himself and then they
Speaker 1: would they were the police would write down a different
Speaker 1: form of debt because it was like embarrassing for the family.
Speaker 1: They would say, like the powerful So now your mushroom
Speaker 1: embarrassment actually seems fine. Yeah, it's kind of cute. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: who cared about Yeah that's fine. Yeah. But my family
Speaker 1: were never too religious, especially like my mother side super religious,
Speaker 1: crazy religious, Like like my my grandparents got divorced in
Speaker 1: like the seventies, which was scandalous. Yeah, it was real scandalous.
Speaker 1: And then so my granddad then he was like he
Speaker 1: would go to church every day for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life because he had to like repent. Yeah, his
Speaker 1: wife left them. They must have really fucking hated each other.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. It was just a scandalous type of thing,
Speaker 1: guilt carrying guilt like that, that fucks up your whole wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so but now Ireland's just completely free of it. Flus.
Speaker 1: We also got found money once. What what's you call rich?
Speaker 1: Religion was like, who needs that? Yeah? I got green baby,
Speaker 1: Well your family got money. Ireland in general, the country,
Speaker 1: so everybody has started making more. Yeah. Yeah, during the
Speaker 1: nineties and the earty two thousands, it's just the economy ventry.
Speaker 1: So the power went from the church to the people. Exactly. Nice,
Speaker 1: that's great, that's a big because that's a very recent shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. It was very jarring to hear, how
Speaker 1: well jarring we live in America. That's the fucking laws
Speaker 1: are not rov Wade got revoked, so I guess it's
Speaker 1: not jarring. But how recent abortion was made legal in Ireland?
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that is very recent. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then you know, who are we to talk now, because
Speaker 1: Ireland now is super progressive. You know, that was like
Speaker 1: a landslide, like I've noticed too, about like Irish women
Speaker 1: are so fucking tough and they don't take shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never been to a country who whose population like
Speaker 1: almost across the board. The women are like the fox here,
Speaker 1: but like they're just very like I don't have time
Speaker 1: for this. Yeah, I'm like, I love that. And we
Speaker 1: always grew up at that. You know, my sister and
Speaker 1: mother would be very strong women and all the women.
Speaker 1: I always knew we are president female president years ago,
Speaker 1: all this type of stuff. But then nowadays it seems
Speaker 1: more like there's a more of a feminist movement. But
Speaker 1: I never grew up really considered there was any sort
Speaker 1: of a difference, you know, if that makes sense between
Speaker 1: how you were treating how women were treated. Yeah, to Mike,
Speaker 1: because women are always very as always, it was always
Speaker 1: very equal. But now it seems like, I guess it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I guess you're further reflection because Island was always very
Speaker 1: proud of itself for being, um yeah, progressive. I guess
Speaker 1: we're women's rights and things like that. Besides that whole laundry,
Speaker 1: buried babies, Yeah, getting jail from the restaurant, So do
Speaker 1: you feel it that list that happens if everyone has
Speaker 1: a hiccup? Yeah, so do you feel grow and we're
Speaker 1: figuring it out? Growing up around strong women hit like altered?
Speaker 1: Who you are attracted to romantically? I don't know. Um.
Speaker 1: I love asking these questions that women think about all
Speaker 1: the time and then never even think. Actually, the first
Speaker 1: time that's ever christ does my mother's personality effect who
Speaker 1: I'm attracted it? No, it's not like a that's not
Speaker 1: a crazy I mean I'm more like a physical guy,
Speaker 1: you know, so wow, I've never heard that before. Can
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit? So you have to be
Speaker 1: really hot? I guess my mother has a great body,
Speaker 1: so that she does? She really? I guess she does. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess she's yeah not bad. Yeah, your friends like
Speaker 1: yeah like a mouth? Yeah everyone, but everyone says that
Speaker 1: about everyone's mother. Really no, no, no, everyone's about everyone.
Speaker 1: Everyone says that people whose moms are hot yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah No she was not the hot one, but
Speaker 1: she I don't think. Did you have a friend whose
Speaker 1: mom was smoking hot? There was loads, especially if they
Speaker 1: were the younger ones. Because I was like the youngest child,
Speaker 1: so my friends, a lot of them their parents had
Speaker 1: a much lower Yes, yes, I remember all. They used
Speaker 1: to be just own girl and I think her mother
Speaker 1: must have been like fifteen when she had it. So
Speaker 1: we would all be at like a house party with
Speaker 1: her f fifteen and the mother was only like thirty, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was so fucking hot. Wow, that was I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch around her. Yeah, of course, like what like
Speaker 1: what it looked like. I don't know, it's just I
Speaker 1: don't know, just hanging out. It was cool, rock hard, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. She was great. We used to smoke
Speaker 1: weed with her. She was also like a thirty year
Speaker 1: old grandmother eventually, so nice. Ireland is very weird about weed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I try to get weed. I mean I got it,
Speaker 1: but boy I had it? Was it? It was in operations,
Speaker 1: not because it's just I think, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: just affects the psyche weird, like Irish people get. There's
Speaker 1: some people who love weed and that's like the hoolely dancy,
Speaker 1: but there's no really like casual in my experience. I'm
Speaker 1: gone now nearly ten years, but traditionally it was never
Speaker 1: like just casual weed smoke or was that you're an
Speaker 1: absolute stoner? Yeah, that's and you you do hackey sack
Speaker 1: and watch fucking cartoons all day, or you're just a
Speaker 1: drunk all day. What seems like that maybe it's like
Speaker 1: a culture that's very prone to addiction, and so that's
Speaker 1: why would that be the reason? Absolutely? Yeah, that's like
Speaker 1: I don't want to Irish people can knock them back
Speaker 1: on like any body of ever witnessed, we got like
Speaker 1: the highest percentage of like sober people, and well, because
Speaker 1: they had so many people with with a terrible problem,
Speaker 1: makes sense. We call them. It's the comic things weak
Speaker 1: minded people. Comics are either like pretty like heavy drinkers
Speaker 1: or sober because they were the heaviest of the drinkers. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah I do that. I do do that. I do
Speaker 1: like six months on, six months off type of thing.
Speaker 1: Oh you do yeah? Really yeah? All the time I
Speaker 1: feel like, oh okay, I don't know, how does that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just need to just you know it.
Speaker 1: Just I always skate along the lines. Yeah too bad,
Speaker 1: like you know, good time bad drunk guy. I always
Speaker 1: said of just yeah, have you what's the most embarrassing
Speaker 1: thing you've ever done drunk? Oh? Thank god, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: But like like I love it I black out a lot,
Speaker 1: and now I black out really early bad too. How
Speaker 1: many drinks in it depends, But like recently I blacked
Speaker 1: out and I hadn't even had a lot of drinks.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like the whole night was gone.
Speaker 1: The next day, like people saw me like, oh hey,
Speaker 1: you were a lot of fun last night. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember being here. I swear I only had like
Speaker 1: four beers or something. Sometimes, yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's hard to control because it's a
Speaker 1: crap shoot. Sometimes sometimes it's like you can drink eight drinks.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you drink two drinks in your gone yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I can turn into like I think I'm being
Speaker 1: hilarious when I'm drunk, and it's like completely off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the energy is wrong, and I'm there like roasting people
Speaker 1: going yo, your big nosed idiot, And there was like Jesus,
Speaker 1: we don't know each other. That's me. Oh wow, wow,
Speaker 1: drinking is so much fun. It is fun. Every time
Speaker 1: I want to stop, I still to go. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: it's also too like are you one of those people
Speaker 1: where one you can't just have one? Yeah? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is that about? But it's not even that it's also
Speaker 1: like one in ten times drinking. I will drink wait
Speaker 1: too much. That's sort of how it is. One in ten,
Speaker 1: maybe one in eight ten. So yes for me, it's
Speaker 1: one in ten. Let's remember remember half the ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just yeah again. But I love like I love a cocktail.
Speaker 1: I love a date night, go get cocktails, glass of
Speaker 1: wine with dinner, bloody Mary on a Sunday morning, pictures
Speaker 1: watching football. I love it all. He's like bathroom tequilla, drink,
Speaker 1: yea dinner, drink, go off to the dog at nights.
Speaker 1: All of a Guinness in Ireland. Like I'm going back
Speaker 1: to Ireland next month. There's no way I'm not drinking again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say having a Guinness. There's this bar Swift
Speaker 1: and Um and the Scratcher that are Irish ran like
Speaker 1: the people on our art and uh, I've had like
Speaker 1: a proper gains poor. It's fucking really good. It's really good.
Speaker 1: This is in New York, New York, and Swift is
Speaker 1: grace Swich. Swift was iconic back about fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Was one of the best game in New York. Now
Speaker 1: there's a lot of places. Yeah yeah, no, no scratch
Speaker 1: up but I'll check it out. Oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those places are great. Um, you said before we started
Speaker 1: recording that you did have embarrassing sex stories. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I guess after pissing on that guy, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call it a sex story, would you, unless you don't know?
Speaker 1: I guess it is for him, he was jerking off.
Speaker 1: He was jerking off. Yeah, okay, but didn't last very long?
Speaker 1: Did he come? No, No, we couldn't. What was your
Speaker 1: relationship like after that incident? We just thought it was funny. Now, actually,
Speaker 1: love years later, I'm kind of like I was a
Speaker 1: little bit odd. It was a little bit too gay. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: my street crad is real. But I always just thought
Speaker 1: it was funny. I always just thought it was the
Speaker 1: funniest thing. Yeah, it does make sense. That's funny to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, well, it's just a comic thing. It's
Speaker 1: a very comedian thing to do. It's just very interesting
Speaker 1: how compartmental as it was, because it was like a
Speaker 1: very sexual thing experience for your friend and not at
Speaker 1: all for you. But you're both in the same space
Speaker 1: participating in a consensual act. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I guess it's maybe like more like you were like
Speaker 1: a sex worker in that, but you didn't get you
Speaker 1: you just got paid in humor. Yeah. I think that's
Speaker 1: fair as a comedian now, I mean stories are worth
Speaker 1: a lot. Have you read somebody want to do aside
Speaker 1: from him? Like with a woman. Have you ever heard
Speaker 1: a woman proposed something to you sexual And you're like
Speaker 1: all right, sure, um um, I've had Yeah. Sometimes people
Speaker 1: bring up like strap ons and things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? And I guess I could, but
Speaker 1: it couldn't be big. I just won't gonna start it
Speaker 1: like a child. I just yeah, I just won't grow.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I'd love to fucking a strap
Speaker 1: on and I go, okay, but it has to be
Speaker 1: the size. You can only be the size of my dick, right,
Speaker 1: And then she goes, no, I want to fuck you
Speaker 1: with a big one. And I was like, Jesus, that
Speaker 1: was rude. That was horrifying. I was like, sick burned girl,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Had you been dating her? Yeah? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were dating? Yeah, okay, so she was yeah, but we
Speaker 1: never did that. I think she I've never done I've
Speaker 1: had some finger stuff over the years. Did you like it?
Speaker 1: I guess it's more of it. I kind of like
Speaker 1: more of like just maybe the pressure of maybe more
Speaker 1: like you're opening an iPhone, you know, just like get
Speaker 1: fingerprint there. Yeah, I won girl. Once she finger fucked me,
Speaker 1: and it was wow. She threw me on like my
Speaker 1: belly and then she proper like all fingers like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just sort of took it because I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just see if this does anything. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Oh, it didn't do anything. No, no, you no,
Speaker 1: she finger blasphemy And I was just like lying on
Speaker 1: like so there was no okay. I was lying on
Speaker 1: like my belly, you know. My cock was just like
Speaker 1: rubbing against the thing. It was awful. Yeah, it didn't
Speaker 1: sound hot when you said she threw me down on
Speaker 1: my belly, that's like a hot star. Yeah, it wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It just and again I guess I was just young.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was twenty one, twenty two, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, let me just try it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: let me just see it. Yeah, Like what kind of
Speaker 1: communication do you have like in sexual encounters with women,
Speaker 1: Like I don't say nothing. Yeah, yeah, that's what kind
Speaker 1: of what I thought was the answer was going to
Speaker 1: be I'm They're just absolutely like are you even here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Exactly so no, absolutely no dirty to acca. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think I used it, but now I'm just like
Speaker 1: completely no, just silent. Even make noises that podcast when
Speaker 1: I do make noises, just let people know my lives.
Speaker 1: But it's like I'm just throwing it out there. Even
Speaker 1: a heavy breathing is that's like like a SOCIALOCA guy
Speaker 1: just says stuff. But like it's just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's great. Yeah, that's like I just chowed that
Speaker 1: in there. You're like Irish Larry Day. Yeah, I'm just listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not good at sex. I'm not. I'm not into
Speaker 1: the I'm not good sex guy, I'm not Italian. What
Speaker 1: the fuck is it like, I'm not. I just you
Speaker 1: want to be good at sex? I guess I could,
Speaker 1: but I can not. Really is broken flack? Mike is flat,
Speaker 1: Mike is Italian and he was flowering. No, yeah, Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike probably has all the hit movement. No way, huge dick,
Speaker 1: my huge time. Wait, every everyone knows my guess I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he brings it up every it's his Twitter handle big
Speaker 1: like four years did it shrinks? Not point? Why don't
Speaker 1: you want to wait? No, I'm all right, I'm all right,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good on my hands. Okay, that's very
Speaker 1: that's a comment I've gotten over the years. That's means much.
Speaker 1: But I'm no, that means a lot, because a woman
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that if you weren't. That's the biggest comment
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten. Was always very good in my hands,
Speaker 1: So it is a compliment, but it also you could
Speaker 1: do better another Yeah, it also could mean that you're
Speaker 1: with your dick and the comparison your hands were a relief.
Speaker 1: That's reminding. Migraine immediately goes. I triggered at one time.
Speaker 1: It's like I was like, oh, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But also I'm I'm so, I'm I'm natural on cut.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Okay. So I'm told cook boys last
Speaker 1: longer because they're like de sansitized. That's not true. No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. I dated somebody for a very long
Speaker 1: time who was circumscised and very quick. Okay. Interesting. I
Speaker 1: think the theory is that the head is rubbing against
Speaker 1: you your pants all day, so then it gets de sansitized,
Speaker 1: whereas mine is protected by right. You're in a little
Speaker 1: sleeping Yeah, exactly exactly. It's like taking your sunglasses off
Speaker 1: and do you get it? Doesn't the foreskin like you
Speaker 1: have to clean it? I was the thing I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: do you have to shower differently? It's a self cleaning
Speaker 1: thing like an oven realized that something medically, No, you
Speaker 1: do have to look after that times, but it's it
Speaker 1: does really look after itself kind of yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I swear, yeah, okay, I mean taught in school. I
Speaker 1: have a dick, so I don't you know you would
Speaker 1: know all they taught it to you in school to
Speaker 1: clean your foreskin or your well yourself, tell you how
Speaker 1: to clean it. But they were just like only at
Speaker 1: times like if you have if you have sex, you
Speaker 1: want to do it. If you come, you want to
Speaker 1: wash the comb off your cock. But right, stay today, stuff,
Speaker 1: you should be fine. That's the only time you'll ever
Speaker 1: get a bit of I don't know what to say, stink.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I'm sorry, it's fine.
Speaker 1: It would only be like a sex or come situation. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think so, how has a woman ever come across
Speaker 1: your penis and not known how to like approach it?
Speaker 1: Because it's uncut. I don't know, actually uncut dicks though,
Speaker 1: or yeah, when you get hard you can't tell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no you can't, you can't. You can only tell on yourself.
Speaker 1: I think, I do think I have a small foreskin
Speaker 1: and a big old dick, big old because I know,
Speaker 1: because because a lot of Irish guys have to get
Speaker 1: adult circumcisions. Why do they have to? Because they're born
Speaker 1: with such a huge cock. No, such a huge foreskin.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yeah sucks bigger than the foot. So
Speaker 1: you don't realize, but I think it. Maybe it must
Speaker 1: be a high number, but it's like one and can
Speaker 1: you be these foreskins stuffy inland specific? So I know
Speaker 1: two friends of mine had to get their friend stat
Speaker 1: is based on just his friend group. Yes, but two
Speaker 1: two out of how many friends? That's a lot. And
Speaker 1: they also, by the way, both of them have massive balls.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's any correlation, but they no
Speaker 1: three three do you guys? Have you just seen each
Speaker 1: other's packages? Or one of those my best friends? So
Speaker 1: obviously he showed me I haven't seen my best friend's pussy?
Speaker 1: Is that weird? Am I the weird one? Listen, let's
Speaker 1: get let's you know, let's put this buying a putty
Speaker 1: hey wall, and let's get this going the Yeah. So obviously,
Speaker 1: but when he showed me his circumcised cock a post
Speaker 1: operation just looked like my regular cock. So I don't
Speaker 1: know whether they took off less foreskin or not, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I've got so. What happens is sometimes
Speaker 1: you're born with a foreskin that's too long for your cock,
Speaker 1: right right, or you're born, children are born and the
Speaker 1: foreskin goes over the penis and it kind of crusts over,
Speaker 1: and then one day, when you get bigger, you're it
Speaker 1: comes out and it kind of cracks it open. It's like,
Speaker 1: not a good experience. Good experience for children, I thought,
Speaker 1: But if the fourteen is too big, he'll never crack
Speaker 1: it open. So a friend of mine, he didn't even
Speaker 1: know he had to fuck up foreskin until he was
Speaker 1: with some chick and she was like, Yo, that's not
Speaker 1: what dicks looked like. I swear, I swear that was
Speaker 1: one of his first experiences where a woman was like, YEO,
Speaker 1: what the hell is that? I swear, I've been around
Speaker 1: the block boone, no offense, but he gonna get that
Speaker 1: look that. Yeah, I swear to god. I even remember
Speaker 1: once he was graffitiing on a bathroom wall. He drew
Speaker 1: a penis and then he drew the he drew drew it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he drew the cock, slid on the wrong end. He
Speaker 1: drew it in the middle of the shaft, and I go,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? That's not how it cocks. He
Speaker 1: looks like, he goes, oh yeah, yeah, of course he was.
Speaker 1: He didn't know what they looked like. Wow, So he
Speaker 1: had to get that done. Yeah, yeah, damn, I believe
Speaker 1: it or not. I was not able to find statistics
Speaker 1: wow Collins friends. But I did find that two percent
Speaker 1: of men name in there and see just look friend group.
Speaker 1: That's what I forgot that apparently two percent of men
Speaker 1: in Northern Ireland are circumstanced. That's the tiniest part of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you would have to say that's the same then
Speaker 1: all over just not like they think you got across
Speaker 1: the border. So yeah, it's the same religion all over
Speaker 1: the island. Right, Oh my god. Yeah they look bad
Speaker 1: if you if you well, yeah, they have those like
Speaker 1: drawings of like here are all the different kinds of vaginas,
Speaker 1: so that women know, they don't have to look one
Speaker 1: way that they do im porn whatever. I have seen
Speaker 1: that exact same thing with dicks, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot more dick variations that I haven't seen
Speaker 1: that many dick variations. And I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: dick you need to send like a team of rabbis
Speaker 1: sound different? Yeah, I don't know. If there's a graph
Speaker 1: like have you seen the pussy graph? Of course? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did it help you? Okay, here we go. One, This
Speaker 1: is what type of dick you got? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: these all can't be right. What are you seeing? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I've never seen that one? Oh my good god?
Speaker 1: This is can we describe these? So? One looks like
Speaker 1: why don't you have a guess of which one one is?
Speaker 1: And how that you know? Okay, I'm gonna guess. Oh
Speaker 1: that's probably your friend. The droopy foreskin, it was just
Speaker 1: like so much more room to party, but the dick's
Speaker 1: not big enough to Didn't I say I have a
Speaker 1: small for you? Did? Uh? So I would say your
Speaker 1: dick probably is my cut perfectly? Probably like that. This
Speaker 1: looks like a dog in an oversized sweater or you
Speaker 1: know what is thinking this one. But also I don't
Speaker 1: know cappybaras. Do you know those? Yes, that's what. Very cute, Yeah,
Speaker 1: very cute. That looks like a capybara wrapped in wool. Okay,
Speaker 1: but so so this, oh god, that one? That one.
Speaker 1: This is a common one, right, that's the one I
Speaker 1: see this? Wait, this the top right? No, this one
Speaker 1: is the second one, that's the most That's the one
Speaker 1: I see pretty much all the time. Yeah. If I
Speaker 1: saw that one with the giant penis head and the
Speaker 1: skinny skinny, I would I would, I would vomit and
Speaker 1: run away. This one looks like a dog with a
Speaker 1: cone on its neck after Yeah, but what so what
Speaker 1: is that though? Oh boy, is it like a rolled
Speaker 1: back foreskin? What is the right? It must be it's
Speaker 1: a finger. It's like it looks like they said hot
Speaker 1: dogs are Yes, it's cappybara or head of the dead.
Speaker 1: So all of these are growths. Yeah, pretty much. But
Speaker 1: when you love the person, it's nice. Yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: then he's very Just similarly to that. Those are so
Speaker 1: nasty I can't even watch. It's like fucking turning my stomach. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The last two is crazy. Yeah, those those are yeah,
Speaker 1: they's like when you google, like you know, pencil dick.
Speaker 1: Men don't have body positivity and that's one of your
Speaker 1: the best things about you guys. You just go, this
Speaker 1: is fucking disgussi and no humans should look like this,
Speaker 1: you know what. That's the type of stuff with you know,
Speaker 1: when someone kills a lot of people, then they that
Speaker 1: that cock looks like this right right, like like a
Speaker 1: little show court dismiss. Yeah, oh guys, we all right,
Speaker 1: wine seeing all these guys have crazy fucking how do
Speaker 1: you know, because everyone knows everything about everyone's cock. This
Speaker 1: is the world we live in. Wine Stein's cock was
Speaker 1: fucked up. That guy, the Golden Stake killer his cock
Speaker 1: was fucking Are the pictures of these guys dicks? No?
Speaker 1: But in the test some money, they had to discuss
Speaker 1: what they had to discuss Winstein's dick because you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times when they're testifying, they have to,
Speaker 1: like they'll ask you on the stand, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: to make sure you're not lying what the penis looked like.
Speaker 1: And that's how they proved win steins is messed up
Speaker 1: like a pigstail or something. And then Epstein's dick was
Speaker 1: a huge point of discussion during Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah wow.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess if there's one reason not
Speaker 1: to like assault or rape someone, it's if you have
Speaker 1: a fucked up dick. We're going to talk about it
Speaker 1: graphically in front of Clinton Clinton's. Clinton's that he has
Speaker 1: the curly one. The corkscrell not that much, but around
Speaker 1: like a pig's tail. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: It's just a bend. Yeah, like a free kick, is
Speaker 1: that Captain hook? Well of a curve too. A curve
Speaker 1: is different. Sometimes that's nice cur depending on where your
Speaker 1: g spot is, right, So, but his is like super curly.
Speaker 1: So what is it? What it is is you get
Speaker 1: these weird calluses in your cock, so weeh, inside the
Speaker 1: inside the veins, there's like you get like a callous
Speaker 1: or something. So then the blood has to float slower
Speaker 1: on one side than the other, so then when it
Speaker 1: gets hard, it can't go as fast on one side
Speaker 1: and then that curves it. Oh yeah, I think this
Speaker 1: is the most scientific eisode of the podcast we've ever done.
Speaker 1: You got to know about that's fascinating about blood speed? Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you know you know as a man, like growing
Speaker 1: up as a boy, did you know that there is
Speaker 1: different kinds of vaginas? No, No, you just learned that
Speaker 1: later on. When's the first time you had sex? How
Speaker 1: old were you? It feels like it you would be young. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: smoking a ciga, you give it like, yeah, you give
Speaker 1: a twelve year old virginity. Five. It was the night
Speaker 1: I turned sixteen. Wow, So I think it was fifteen
Speaker 1: with an older or younger woman. Younger? Okay, how young?
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into wow, not how young.
Speaker 1: But we were about young at the time, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that was that. It was just a random one
Speaker 1: light stand type of thing. One night stand at sixteen?
Speaker 1: What is that's advanced? What is the age of consent
Speaker 1: in Ireland? You know, I think it's a it's sixteen.
Speaker 1: If you're a certain age, there's like an age like
Speaker 1: a different year old. There should be. There's no set
Speaker 1: minimum age in Ireland at which contraceptive advice was. The
Speaker 1: age of consent to sexual activities seventeen and it maybe
Speaker 1: a criminal fence to have sex with a person under seventeen.
Speaker 1: But when you're both that's like in Ireland, listen, I
Speaker 1: was fifteen and she was that age too, and but
Speaker 1: please over twelve, Please over twelve. In the court of
Speaker 1: law or something that would turn I would be prosecuted
Speaker 1: for that, even though it's like consentual to fifteen year
Speaker 1: olds having sex, you know what I'm saying, right right, right,
Speaker 1: it's like weird. It's all weird shit. And I think
Speaker 1: you can fu sixteen year old as long as you're
Speaker 1: like near that age, but if you're like twenty, you're
Speaker 1: not allowed or something. That's the law that should be
Speaker 1: enacted here. Yeah, because of two fifteen year olds or
Speaker 1: fucking no one should get in trouble. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's fair. But if I feel fifteen year old is
Speaker 1: sucking a twenty year old, the twenty year old probably
Speaker 1: should be like noah, they should know better. Girl fifteen
Speaker 1: year old or so hot. No, I don't think anyone's
Speaker 1: ever said that. Everyone else many I've never been like
Speaker 1: mmmm yeah, but that's because fifteen, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: a young women are just sexualized all the time. It's
Speaker 1: awful when you see if you're seen year old now though,
Speaker 1: it's like they're their babies. Yeah, even women though college women,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they look young to the point where it's
Speaker 1: like nasty. Yeah, I like I like young, I like younger,
Speaker 1: like like teens and stuff in theory, but in reality
Speaker 1: it's horrifying, right, you know, like if you watch porn,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, what do we mean? In theory, so
Speaker 1: like a pawn, like, hey, you know, nineteen year old fucks,
Speaker 1: but it's like that woman's not actually nineteen. Yeah, might
Speaker 1: look nice, sorry ruin it for you? Yeah whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but forty year old nineteen I would even I would
Speaker 1: even see like say an actress or someone who's nineteen.
Speaker 1: Then she looks beautiful and I'm like, oh wow, that'd
Speaker 1: be great to you know, ticket in her. Yes, But
Speaker 1: then the actual hanging out with those people is so
Speaker 1: disgusting that it's like horrifying. Really do you actually take
Speaker 1: that into account though? Like when what the words that
Speaker 1: are coming out of the woman's mouth? H do I that? Uh?
Speaker 1: It was not a great response to it. Does it
Speaker 1: affect your dick? Does it affect your attraction to her? Oh? Yeah? Okay? Sure,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, for sure you have to be able
Speaker 1: to hold a conversation. But can a hot girl who
Speaker 1: wants to have sex with you ruin it? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think it's normally a post sex thing. It's usually you
Speaker 1: get the you don't get the the guys. Guys don't
Speaker 1: get the ache pre nut post nut Dan Everton is
Speaker 1: your best. It's like everything's achy, You're about to get
Speaker 1: the ache. Yeah, yeah, no matter what. Yeah, I read,
Speaker 1: I was you look at your phone. No. I came
Speaker 1: across some articles. I was like, I'm sure you were
Speaker 1: wearing twenty minutes ago, get out of dirty. It was like,
Speaker 1: do guys really like? The article was like some kind
Speaker 1: of a think piece by a woman, and like the
Speaker 1: title was literally something like do guys really think we're ugly?
Speaker 1: After they come? I'm like that that was the That
Speaker 1: was the article. Is that a kind of content is
Speaker 1: being pushed at me? And why I'll never be that smart?
Speaker 1: You know? So? Is that? Can you speak on that? Yes?
Speaker 1: Please response please? Yes? I don't know. Yeah. Sometimes yeah,
Speaker 1: let's I've gotten like that a common thing though, getting
Speaker 1: getting the immediately after nutting. I don't know you do,
Speaker 1: but you're to answer, I'm trying to yes, yes, wait,
Speaker 1: this is very interesting. Every time I'm a lot of
Speaker 1: why did I do that? Yeah? Especially the way A
Speaker 1: fucking drank over the years, it's crazy crazy. If you
Speaker 1: if you're not like super into the woman, and like
Speaker 1: immediately after sex is more like if the moment they
Speaker 1: try to get even remotely close to you, like who who?
Speaker 1: Like this happens to me, it's like, so where can
Speaker 1: I get a text? Around here? You look at me? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's that. It's that it's like, oh, hold on, this
Speaker 1: is just like a one night where she's hot. Let's
Speaker 1: take it slow. A person like that if she's just
Speaker 1: go to drown yourself, right. I got some coffee in
Speaker 1: a to go cup. That's so hilarious to have just
Speaker 1: a stack up to go. I have a stack of
Speaker 1: a sick man. I have Greek. I have Greek diner
Speaker 1: cups next to my coffee machine. I kind of love that.
Speaker 1: He for the road and you know yourself so you
Speaker 1: know what you want. That's very interesting because I feel
Speaker 1: like with women like or at least for me, I
Speaker 1: can't speak for other women, but I you know, I
Speaker 1: like sex, but it takes a lot for me to
Speaker 1: get attracted to a guy. So if I want to
Speaker 1: have sex, I have to like really pump them up
Speaker 1: in my head, like really but then but but as
Speaker 1: a result, after we have sex, and I come. I
Speaker 1: still I'm like, shit, I fucked up pumping them up
Speaker 1: because now I like them. All you do that's never
Speaker 1: once happened to me. Yeah. Sometimes I just know that
Speaker 1: I need to come, like just logistically, so I'll have
Speaker 1: a couple drinks to make someone that's not that attractive
Speaker 1: come become attractive so I can come. But then afterwards
Speaker 1: it is But afterwards, are you disgusted by them? Yes,
Speaker 1: I get the ick like the man. Well, I've definitely came,
Speaker 1: and then I've even gotten this feedback of us. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not proud of this, but I've gotten I've
Speaker 1: gotten the feedback many times that I come like a man,
Speaker 1: which means I come and then I ignore you to
Speaker 1: fall right to sleep right well and I but but
Speaker 1: the womanly thing about me is that I warn men
Speaker 1: ahead of time. I say, if you want to come,
Speaker 1: do not make me come first, because you will not
Speaker 1: be coming men. You tell people that, right, Like if
Speaker 1: you're going down on me or something, I go, I
Speaker 1: love what you're doing, right, But I was like, if
Speaker 1: you don't want to come, we're gonna kind of do
Speaker 1: it together, probably yeah, right right right, or you do
Speaker 1: it first and then I do it, Yeah, because I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm out. I don't. I have zero. Well, and when
Speaker 1: when you're gross like when you are in that moment
Speaker 1: when you're like kind of grossed out after you come you,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to not react to that, like look,
Speaker 1: get the funk, like like that's being grossed out by somebody,
Speaker 1: regardless of like you guys are just animals. I've had
Speaker 1: situations where I'm going home with someone and we're like
Speaker 1: in an uber and my head is looking at and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the New York Skyline, going oh, why
Speaker 1: am I doing this? Like I don't want to do this?
Speaker 1: Why am I doing And you're like you look at
Speaker 1: and you go, oh God, and then and then you
Speaker 1: fuck and then you just you feel bad about yourself everton,
Speaker 1: damn the way you feel about them, the way you
Speaker 1: feel about yourself. You go, what do I have a problem?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with right? Right? Why did I not fu? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's crazy. I've got loads of situations where
Speaker 1: girls are like I don't find the attractors, like do
Speaker 1: you want to fuck me? I'm like, god, damn it,
Speaker 1: come on, but I will. Now that she asks, you
Speaker 1: have to because like, do you feel like, is there
Speaker 1: like an Irish guy in your head going you fucking pussy?
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I don't know. It's just yeah, just so
Speaker 1: many times when you just don't be gay, when you don't,
Speaker 1: somebody does. When you don't have pussy. It's more like
Speaker 1: a grateful thing, like you have to be grateful for
Speaker 1: what you have when you have it. I guess we
Speaker 1: can really flip this. I guess trying to paint you good.
Speaker 1: You just I'm just dog. I'm just a fucking stupid dog,
Speaker 1: all right. Well uh yeah, but it's it's you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but a few drinks. Women also, this is I don't know,
Speaker 1: women need to answer for how often they get men
Speaker 1: drunks so that they can sleep with them. That's it.
Speaker 1: This is a common thing women, women, drunk women have
Speaker 1: How sorry for your struggle. I know that's a problem.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Dismissed. But really I don't do that.
Speaker 1: And I've never what I didn't hear, I've never heard of.
Speaker 1: I've had a few times where women know they'll get
Speaker 1: me blackout drunk, and then I'll wake up the next
Speaker 1: day having had sex with them, even though I was like,
Speaker 1: they know him that, Oh so these were women that
Speaker 1: you had They had tried to hit on you when
Speaker 1: you were sober and you said no. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: must have been real monsters for you to say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you just told Also, they know enough about you
Speaker 1: to know that if you're drunk, you'll fuck them. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe i've you know, I probably stepped them the
Speaker 1: first time I was black, they're drunk, didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it again, Ignore them, and then they'll like suddenly
Speaker 1: find you find Yeah, well, especially when I used to
Speaker 1: work at the bars and then they'd be like sending
Speaker 1: the shots over and I'm like, oh thanks, thanks, say
Speaker 1: you wake up at again? And damn it? How about that? Yet?
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? You're more disappointed than
Speaker 1: yourself than ask again? Oh noooo who I got some
Speaker 1: plusy you know? Oh well yeah but it wasn't we'll
Speaker 1: see that you wanted. Yeah gross? Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Did you ever say something to that that's crazy? I
Speaker 1: knew yet I'm just gonna keep asking itet you if
Speaker 1: you ever wanted to say. I didn't wait up a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, so it's not too bad. But I
Speaker 1: did wait up for someone. Fucking me one time she
Speaker 1: was like I woke up like she was on top
Speaker 1: of me, riding me. Yeah. Okay, So I hear this
Speaker 1: story a lot from men and like this is this
Speaker 1: isn't okay, and I want to reach I want to
Speaker 1: reach out, right, like, but like, are you I didn't
Speaker 1: have like a cold shower after Are you just genuinely
Speaker 1: not bothered by that? Like I just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just just again, it's just like I don't want to
Speaker 1: create a problem when there is where there is none,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, shield yourself from thinking that
Speaker 1: it's bothers you because it's just not that big a problem.
Speaker 1: It's just not because you don't want it to be.
Speaker 1: It's just not it's not like I feel heard about
Speaker 1: it right like that, Oh, I'm just saying, but you
Speaker 1: brought it up, so I think maybe you do feel
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying women shouldn't do it. I didn't
Speaker 1: know women didn't do that. But that's that's well. I
Speaker 1: will say everyone I know has a story like that.
Speaker 1: I will say this when a woman, like when a
Speaker 1: guy wants to fuck you, you'll know, but when a
Speaker 1: woman wants to fuck you, you'll know. Like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's the energy is intense, like when crit and I
Speaker 1: went to a Third Eye Blind concert and like everyone
Speaker 1: was like Stephen Jacket because he's hot, like you know,
Speaker 1: especially if you listen to music. But the women, it
Speaker 1: was interesting to observe the women like you've been to
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber concerts. Right, Oh, I'm still screams yes, like
Speaker 1: what like a male like a like a famous man,
Speaker 1: like like women want to fuck like you know, just
Speaker 1: but the women act like it's nuts, isn't it like
Speaker 1: it's like a like a malfunction of your brain. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's because it's so rare that a man turns
Speaker 1: us on that much that we're like you you you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like a diamond.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's when every generation has their like guy
Speaker 1: where they just like stream and they don't like I
Speaker 1: guess they just I guess. Years later you look back
Speaker 1: and you go, what the hell is that? There's very
Speaker 1: few people that I can see, like in retrospect or
Speaker 1: even in current times why people are so tried to
Speaker 1: say him like Elvis is an example of someone I
Speaker 1: can see why, Like I get it, you watch it
Speaker 1: even as Butler playing Elvis like Austin Butler in real life,
Speaker 1: Austin Butler as Elvis Holy finger me, Yes, yes, agreed,
Speaker 1: I could, Like I would never want to interview him.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not. He could not sit here
Speaker 1: with me sitting here. I can't, I can't. It's there's
Speaker 1: very few instances in my life where I'm so aroused.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is maybe happened four times, you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe yea. Yeah. My Harry Styles is Lewis Capaldi,
Speaker 1: which is why. Yeah, the Turettes. I love the hotness,
Speaker 1: the nutcombing, the hair, the sweatpants. Simpson, I love him,
Speaker 1: Homer Simpson, Scott. But I'm not the only one. Go
Speaker 1: on TikTok on Instagram. People are obsessed with him. He
Speaker 1: is so funny. He's higher than any comedian. He's hilarious
Speaker 1: and then has and then has these voice of an angel.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's wild. I will say. He was on one
Speaker 1: of my list and I didn't realize, like, because his
Speaker 1: voice is gorgeous. It's so good, gorgeous, He's gifted. And
Speaker 1: then you look at him, You're like, oh that's not
Speaker 1: all I expected. Yeah, Yeah, his voice, his voice had
Speaker 1: to be really good to overcome that. Yeah, head, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's look. Yeah, but I also admire that he's not fixing.
Speaker 1: It's getting he's getting worse looking. He is yet such
Speaker 1: a yeah, and he's shoulders, he's got he has the tourettes.
Speaker 1: And then he's also you know, he has a girlfriend now,
Speaker 1: but he's still singing like a lot of painful love
Speaker 1: songs about the one he clearly likes better. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that for him. I love that. Have you so
Speaker 1: it seems like you've well, you haven't rejected the woman
Speaker 1: you just said, yeah, yeah, they need Maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it, But I have rejected women a
Speaker 1: couple of times, and only a few times. After they
Speaker 1: hear this, they're gonna feel extra hurt. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: he actually anyone. Yeah, it feels great, It feels great. Many,
Speaker 1: It feels great for you to reject a woman. Feels
Speaker 1: like a mature decision. Yeah, I'm not putting it in
Speaker 1: or like or like an X or something like that.
Speaker 1: When they try to hit you up and you got Now,
Speaker 1: how do you feel it feels grows? Do you do
Speaker 1: you reject everyone in the same manner? Are you more
Speaker 1: harsh or more sympathetic with people depending on who they
Speaker 1: are to you. Yeah. Well again that's only been a
Speaker 1: handful of time. Have you How did you handle rejection?
Speaker 1: Have you experienced rejection? Oh? Yeah, yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're just like nah, yeah, okay. So
Speaker 1: I don't really put myself in a very vulnerable situation
Speaker 1: where it's like, would you like to have sex with me?
Speaker 1: Unless you think I'm well usually not, I go, no,
Speaker 1: you're gross, Yeah, just like, oh god, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: You just point to it. No, I just said, wow,
Speaker 1: of course it works, kidney, you do it. If it didn't,
Speaker 1: elbowing a woman has worked together, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the metaphorical sort of just you know, you just sort
Speaker 1: of give them the eye the right exactly, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're not done. You want to sex with men? Median
Speaker 1: because of the because of the accent I got all.
Speaker 1: Do you know I don't know he was alcoholism? Yeah regardless. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: you've never been to therapy, right? Yeah you have? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. How many like is this like
Speaker 1: a one? Yeah? Most of them maybe ten, twenty maybe okay, crazy?
Speaker 1: She gave it a solid track. I just don't think
Speaker 1: I was spending enough money on the right people. Maybe
Speaker 1: was there a particular reason you went or was it
Speaker 1: just general just in general, just to see what happened,
Speaker 1: watch what happens, Like yeah, oh boy, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: I just went to see just see whatever. But I
Speaker 1: don't think they were smart enough to really give me
Speaker 1: some good AntiSpy feel like, I personally think that therapists
Speaker 1: weren't in my I don't think good therapists were in
Speaker 1: my price range. Yeah, price range. So I was just
Speaker 1: getting some adia who was like reaffirming nonsense. There bad
Speaker 1: therapists out there, and I so I do agree with you.
Speaker 1: There's like also there's just like too many therapists you go.
Speaker 1: I mean just there's a lot of therapistically be all
Speaker 1: good need therapy real bad. Yeah. So it's like when
Speaker 1: you get one of those, you're like, oh god. But
Speaker 1: most of them have as part of their training, I
Speaker 1: think like it's pretty much required that you have to
Speaker 1: experience it yourself. Yeah. Yeah, because you know, when you
Speaker 1: go back like your high school reunion, you're like, you're
Speaker 1: a therapy you became a therapist. Yeah. Yeah, I've known
Speaker 1: a lot of people who studied psychology too, and they
Speaker 1: ended up having because they had mental issues, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go to college for that. Usually they don't finish
Speaker 1: the course, but like you know, because like it will
Speaker 1: bring out whatever traumagar Yeah, yeah, okay, it's therapy. And
Speaker 1: again in Ireland, that's not a thing as far as
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I was surprised. Actually not. I know,
Speaker 1: girl'll talk to whoever. Like I've had some fucking issues,
Speaker 1: I guess, but I've never I've never had like a
Speaker 1: good break through atton Okay, you know, even on your own,
Speaker 1: like through writing comedy or something. Sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: you can create your own breakthroughs through joke writing. True,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not. I don't not really that
Speaker 1: self reflect I tend to luck all that down, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the weed.
Speaker 1: You smoke weed, all that ship comes out like a
Speaker 1: fucking the Ghostbusters fucking you know, got luck that I don't.
Speaker 1: I smoke weed and it doesn't affect that. But you're
Speaker 1: very in touch. You can overthink it too. Americans are
Speaker 1: overthinking it. Yeah, it's always like a thing. It's a thing.
Speaker 1: I think you even stupid get drunk. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: like young that too. Um, I think like yeah, I
Speaker 1: think this kind of it's very in vogue right now
Speaker 1: to like overthink, over analyze, give things titles that don't
Speaker 1: need titles, yeah, which are kind of like excuses diagnos
Speaker 1: Every problem is like some kind of a diagnosis when
Speaker 1: it's actually just like a character flaw. That's I think
Speaker 1: that's why you asked me the last time I cried.
Speaker 1: I think it was when I went to therapy. Actually, okay,
Speaker 1: so that's I think the first time. So how long
Speaker 1: ago was this? For a year ago? Should you go
Speaker 1: a year without crying? Maybe if I watched a movie
Speaker 1: maybe just people always like to that doesn't count. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm not going to count movie crying about.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Someone dies, someone hurts. I'm blessed, no
Speaker 1: one ever, No one never dies around me. Wow. Actually
Speaker 1: a very lucky guy here, an angel a great life
Speaker 1: an impossibility because people will eventually his age out. Fine, yeah,
Speaker 1: never Like he's like, oh, I'm not counting that death
Speaker 1: from old age. I don't even count it. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I've never had a traumatic death. I've never experienced a
Speaker 1: traumatic death my life it's just grandparents that were owe
Speaker 1: a lot of bad ship because my life has been
Speaker 1: pretty solidly well, don't start thinking that way. Um, we
Speaker 1: have to wrap up. But what did you what is
Speaker 1: like your what's your most colorful, uh embarrassing sex story
Speaker 1: or like good good it could be good something like that.
Speaker 1: You really to pound something? Yeah, like adventurous that you
Speaker 1: did that You're like, oh shit, I feel likes adventurous
Speaker 1: or like a mishap or an oopsie or an injury
Speaker 1: or yeah, the time you remember having sex? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever to be in there. I saw someone recently and
Speaker 1: that we had slept together a long time ago, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I hope this doesn't sound bragging,
Speaker 1: but she she sucked me off, and I guess she
Speaker 1: didn't have good red gag reflecks and she ended up
Speaker 1: she puked on on my cock, like she went and
Speaker 1: puke on the cup, like puked on it like a
Speaker 1: lot of how much throw up came out? Not a
Speaker 1: whole lot, but enough. I kind of yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have rather she didn't. To be honest, I don't know
Speaker 1: I did. I wasn't like going it's what you get.
Speaker 1: I was just like, she's got bad Gag reflects. I
Speaker 1: didn't think like, yo, I've got a monster cop okay.
Speaker 1: I was just like yo, you work on that. But
Speaker 1: so then, um, but you know what's funny, so take notes.
Speaker 1: But then what happened? Right? So she puked and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like that kind of like bad because
Speaker 1: it's like fresh like gag puke. Yeah, it's like you
Speaker 1: know when you burp and you puke in your mouth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like acid. Yeah, so it's kind of like that
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, she goes, she goes, does her stuff,
Speaker 1: and then we end U fucking right, and she's on
Speaker 1: top and she's like, yo, suck on my titties. So
Speaker 1: I was like I did, and but then she obviously
Speaker 1: like puked on a tit and so then I licked
Speaker 1: her nipple and I got my troats hated burning up
Speaker 1: like like, and she's she's like stuck on that titty.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I obviously I'm a gentleman, not going
Speaker 1: to say nothing. That's everything you just bring to your
Speaker 1: grave unless you're on the podcast and say it on
Speaker 1: Guys with Yeah named the girl. I like that you
Speaker 1: started that story by saying I hope this doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like bragging. And then it ends with you licking vomit
Speaker 1: off someone's tit. Yeah, don't worry, it doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: fucking nurses. Yeah no, I just you know I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like, oh, I've got such
Speaker 1: a big dick that she knows we didn't think she
Speaker 1: had a bad refect, right, But I had that a
Speaker 1: few times too. I remember had my tom and the
Speaker 1: girl's thumb and the girl's ass, and then it was
Speaker 1: like shit, I'm like, yeah, I think yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think I ever said that. I think it wipes in
Speaker 1: the sheets where they heard she's hurt out of the hotel.
Speaker 1: She's okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the curtain, just in
Speaker 1: her curtain. Yeah, in her hair. Oh gosh, She's like yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know. I can never lashes. Oh.
Speaker 1: We even talk about that recently with someone like I know,
Speaker 1: I've met guys who like, they'll call down on a
Speaker 1: girl and they go, whoopee you you got to figure
Speaker 1: that out. I would never, in a million years. I
Speaker 1: don't care if if a dog crawled in there and died,
Speaker 1: I would never. I would just stomach it and pretend
Speaker 1: you just got to serve mushrooms out of get out
Speaker 1: a friend's house. It's mushroom fame is really and her
Speaker 1: mom's so hot that you can't. I would never. I
Speaker 1: would never, does not, does not a thing in the
Speaker 1: world where I'd be like, yo, just say, you know
Speaker 1: you're a fucking rough down there. That happened, so you
Speaker 1: know you got but you can, but you gotta go
Speaker 1: clean the pipes out. You know, you can smell your
Speaker 1: own pussy, like from if my pussy smell right now,
Speaker 1: I can smell. I could smell the owner of the vagina.
Speaker 1: We are aware. You're close enough, unless I guess, unless
Speaker 1: you have a really big, like fucking bodice like you
Speaker 1: can you can smell it. I can smell my own pussy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know so good. Look, I don't know if
Speaker 1: have you ever because can you smell? It's like if
Speaker 1: it's bad, Yeah, exactly. That's why I understand how how
Speaker 1: you cannot know that you're on I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I think what happens is maybe you're walking around whatever
Speaker 1: is fine, but then when you get into it, it
Speaker 1: opens up like a little hidden drawback there, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something back there that comes out that it only
Speaker 1: comes out when my face is that. It's like gremlin
Speaker 1: react after midnight. But the thing is, but I've known
Speaker 1: guys who are just like, yo, listen, this isn't I
Speaker 1: don't even mean, but you gotta go figure that out
Speaker 1: because I can't be going down on you like that.
Speaker 1: And then, well, which is the right thing to do?
Speaker 1: I never, I don't know, wait, I would. I would never.
Speaker 1: I would just fucking game face. You know, you do
Speaker 1: want to like if the woman does no I had.
Speaker 1: I don't know if someone told this story on the
Speaker 1: podcast or someone told it to me personally, but I
Speaker 1: remember that it was a music like years ago. So
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, we were touring musicians and we stayed
Speaker 1: at this girl's house. A bunch of girls live in
Speaker 1: the house, and we were like hooking up at one
Speaker 1: of them, and the scrolls vaginas smelt so bad her room,
Speaker 1: her room smelled, and then she like took her pants off,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how does she like genuinely didn't know.
Speaker 1: I almost grow a clostom to it, like your own
Speaker 1: bread or something like it's right. But I do support
Speaker 1: saying something because that's just I just I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the guy. Well, it's like that
Speaker 1: you would go down on her regardless. Yeah, yeah, would
Speaker 1: you vomit? I vomit, I would just not just power,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't likely start, So I can understand relationship.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if that's the old, if this like smell
Speaker 1: like pussy is the only thing keeping you from like
Speaker 1: having a meaningful relationship with someone, then you should tell
Speaker 1: them because it's like, that's not you and your emotionally
Speaker 1: connect with somebody with a smelling vagina a man would like.
Speaker 1: Because also too, if you think about animal instincts and
Speaker 1: human instincts, it's like, okay, wire man attracted a big
Speaker 1: breast because you could feed a baby with them, Like
Speaker 1: if you go to the biological roots of it, right
Speaker 1: out to feeding babies. But like genitals that smell bad
Speaker 1: is signaling a part of your brain that's like aboart aboort. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, it's not healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, your box ladies. What a
Speaker 1: perfect down to a perfect episode. Yes, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for having me. Where can we find you online? And
Speaker 1: what would you like to promote at column? Turtle Everywhere
Speaker 1: My podcast is called the column Turtle Podcast, and I've
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Speaker 1: I guess this will be our first time. Yeah, let's
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