Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody's DJ Envy Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: He got some special guests in the building. We got
Speaker 1: Currency and Jermaine dupre Jay. What up? What's going on? Fellas?
Speaker 1: And I'm saying this making moves what look like hob
Speaker 1: roll out? I just collaborator came about? Uh man, I
Speaker 1: did a record on this Harrod fraud album I did.
Speaker 1: Then I named the record Jamaine dupre because it reminded
Speaker 1: me of when I've seen Bro on MTV uh cribs,
Speaker 1: So it made me speak on it name the record
Speaker 1: after him. And then he heard it and he hit me.
Speaker 1: I was like, just come to the studio, like you
Speaker 1: should come through, like let's do a record. Well, what
Speaker 1: I thought was just come to do a record. But
Speaker 1: then we jammed up, like it fell right and we
Speaker 1: never stopped working. Did y'all always cool with each other?
Speaker 1: Did y'all know each other? Were just not not at all? No,
Speaker 1: as soon as we jammed them, it was like a
Speaker 1: step brothers. It was like yo, like you for real?
Speaker 1: Like did we just become like best friends? Doll? Like
Speaker 1: we just jammed up, just now we got so many records. Man,
Speaker 1: Let's go back to that MTV cribs thing, right because
Speaker 1: you know nowadays and you see rappers doing that should
Speaker 1: looked like this everybody flossing. But back then it really
Speaker 1: used to inspire people. So I was talking about that, yes,
Speaker 1: like dude had the icebergs. I don't just all the
Speaker 1: stuff that was out of my reach that time, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And like they always see it
Speaker 1: like hot kids like saw a Black Panthers, like yo,
Speaker 1: you look like us, Like I'm like, no, this nigga
Speaker 1: look like us, Like this this hit right here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So you could do it because
Speaker 1: the only people I've ever seen on that was like
Speaker 1: I keep telling them how colden House and shit like that,
Speaker 1: and then bam he coming like yeah, this hard. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. What do you think the difference
Speaker 1: is back then? Because I remember seeing JD Like the
Speaker 1: first time I even I seen an exotic sports called
Speaker 1: with JAD had to lamboat with the invented doors with
Speaker 1: the doors up and he put the kids on it.
Speaker 1: So for me, it wasn't like flaws and it was inspiring.
Speaker 1: Right when I used to see squiz or or hole.
Speaker 1: It was bust up, it was inspiring. Why do you
Speaker 1: think people don't look at it now? Is inspiring? Now?
Speaker 1: They look at it like, oh, he's floors and why
Speaker 1: why do you think it's the difference they are that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing it. I mean, you know, it got
Speaker 1: to a point where like people, you know, there was
Speaker 1: a TV show and they was trying to make a show,
Speaker 1: um and they started actually renting houses for people that
Speaker 1: didn't have houses. They started renting cars for people who
Speaker 1: so that that so that the situation would look the
Speaker 1: same as whoever they had on the show. I think
Speaker 1: that's where they messed up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's where they took that part of what you're talking
Speaker 1: about out, because I mean the last one I remember
Speaker 1: was when like they tried to do that with Red
Speaker 1: Man and Red Man was like, nah, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: you out of my house in Jersey and it was
Speaker 1: like a you know what I mean, he stayed in
Speaker 1: like a townhouse flownhouse, right, and they was trying to
Speaker 1: give him a house and call and hen and he
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. So I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much what happened. It is like people just
Speaker 1: was like, nah, let's let's fake it and make it
Speaker 1: look like this is my house and these are my cars.
Speaker 1: Man episode was as impactful a stack of video games,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well I could. I could also
Speaker 1: this is me too. I could also do this too
Speaker 1: if I got And also, I think because you knew
Speaker 1: that whoever was on cribs back then actually worked for that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Nowadays it's just like you
Speaker 1: can stand in front of somebody mansion and stand in
Speaker 1: front of somebody family like what we're asking what do
Speaker 1: these people do? That's true. We didn't have what JD
Speaker 1: did back then. Yeah, we knew what he did, so
Speaker 1: how was it working with j D? It was like,
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, it was like a dream, bro, because
Speaker 1: I've been in the game for a long time and
Speaker 1: just on the outside look. And then that's one of
Speaker 1: the people that I figured. You know, that was like
Speaker 1: somewhere else that's out of space. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So you speak on it. You know. If I named
Speaker 1: the record Jermaine Dupre, I never thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: meet Jermaine Dupre or anything. That's why I like y'all
Speaker 1: never met. That's you know what I'm saying, Like y'all
Speaker 1: both be outside, like yeah, but especially like y'all be outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's different. It's two different worlds, realms, you know,
Speaker 1: like worlds completely like in his group of people in
Speaker 1: the section may include like who you want just throw
Speaker 1: names around, all right, and it's me and the homies.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna it's not gonna happen, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's just great that it did. And
Speaker 1: it's like when I when I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: go to the NFL the NBA, I used to look
Speaker 1: on the back of the cards and look at peoples
Speaker 1: birthday and see who would be in the league when
Speaker 1: I got there, you know what I'm saying, And like this,
Speaker 1: this is like that shit just exactly like that I
Speaker 1: was working with currency. It's dope, but you know what
Speaker 1: it was, because um, it's it's it's it's interesting because
Speaker 1: I don't we never talked about songs like usually I
Speaker 1: talk about what we're gonna do prior to even making
Speaker 1: a beat. Um, he rolling up, I'm making a beat.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if he knows what's happening, but um, it just happened.
Speaker 1: We never made one record where we talked about what
Speaker 1: we were gonna do. It's just organically happened. So I
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, the first five records that I
Speaker 1: saw this happened, I'm like, oh, this is this is
Speaker 1: something that's this is what organic I guess feels like,
Speaker 1: oh it means right. By the time we got to ten,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, this is this is really something
Speaker 1: different than what than what I usually you know, usually
Speaker 1: it's a process of like we're gonna make a song
Speaker 1: like this, and we need to make a record like this,
Speaker 1: and we need to do this and put this person
Speaker 1: on there. We ain't had none of them conversations, but
Speaker 1: we got to that process at the end of the songs.
Speaker 1: You know, as as the legend you are j D.
Speaker 1: When you saw him name the song after you, how
Speaker 1: did that make you feel? Because let's be real, people
Speaker 1: don't give you the credit the credits you deserve, man,
Speaker 1: not at all. That's that's that was crazy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like that was like, um, um,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I said. The least I could do
Speaker 1: is do a record for him, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the least I could do, because nobody had ever
Speaker 1: done that. That's that's taking acknowledging me to a whole
Speaker 1: nother level, right, And it's other people that don't even
Speaker 1: have that, that don't even get that that level of
Speaker 1: like somebody naming a song after you. You know, so
Speaker 1: I never thought that and I never saw that in
Speaker 1: my forecast just to even happen, like oh, I can't
Speaker 1: wait till they start naming records after me, Like you
Speaker 1: don't even think like that. So it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It definitely took me back, like damn okay, and you
Speaker 1: know it also it also was refreshing and a reset
Speaker 1: because what he did was he made me um um
Speaker 1: love and and and and and all the things that
Speaker 1: I love, he loves them like and he and he
Speaker 1: makes you appreciate. He makes you appreciate stuff like that,
Speaker 1: like the call on the desk right there, like you know,
Speaker 1: I collect toys, you know, this is so so the
Speaker 1: things that I do. Sometimes people come out studio, they're like,
Speaker 1: why you got all these toys in there? But he
Speaker 1: came studio, he's like picking them up, looking like my
Speaker 1: son will go crazy over this, and he just started
Speaker 1: makes you appreciate the stuff that you actually already do.
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna ask you know, both
Speaker 1: of you guys are all are very underrated in your
Speaker 1: both crafts, right, so you know, currency you've been out
Speaker 1: for so long, you put up so many records, and
Speaker 1: I feel like the world is doesn't necessarily give you
Speaker 1: the credit you deserve. And the same thing with yourself, JD.
Speaker 1: Do I have that those kind understand Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: have the conversation like but but we just it's an understanding,
Speaker 1: like you know that that's why we do what we do.
Speaker 1: But we also know, like the ceiling that that that's
Speaker 1: almost over you by not being an asshole and waving
Speaker 1: your own banner and demanding that people give you accolades
Speaker 1: and notice what you did, we just keep putting, you know,
Speaker 1: putting the numbers up the ship work. I feel like
Speaker 1: you have to do that when you're from the South though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if people want if you want people to if
Speaker 1: you want that and you have to do that, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you just want to
Speaker 1: take care of your family, pay the bills and ball
Speaker 1: out on your own accord. Then you don't have to
Speaker 1: do it because like I always say, like I still
Speaker 1: want to go to Walmut and look for high wheels
Speaker 1: and shit, you know, but I want to go in
Speaker 1: a ferrari or something. So I work hard enough to
Speaker 1: do that, you know what I'm saying. But I'm not
Speaker 1: worrying about the other ship that comes with it, like
Speaker 1: those being in those circles and done all that shit
Speaker 1: that that don't because all the guys of noble always
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm the king of New York hip hop.
Speaker 1: Wayne didn't get into conversation, so he said he the
Speaker 1: best rapper. Yeah, ta, I didn't get into conversation, so
Speaker 1: he said he the king of the South. I feel
Speaker 1: like when you're from the South, you have to say it.
Speaker 1: You have to, you have to, you know, But all
Speaker 1: you could just stack your paper up. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: really what matters. That's that's really what matter. Jad You
Speaker 1: feel like you started popping your shit a little too late, Nah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to even say that because that's
Speaker 1: what I'm on cribs. I'm popping shit, I guess, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, I think people start paying attention too late,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, you know, I was
Speaker 1: popping shit at nineteen. I don't think people start paying
Speaker 1: attention to Jermaney free to like I was twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six years old. Because even now when people start
Speaker 1: speaking of like the records I did, they leave criss
Speaker 1: Cross completely off that whole list, right, So half of
Speaker 1: my existence in the popping shit era, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: people didn't, you know, and they weren't no breakfast club
Speaker 1: when I did money anything. And just imagine if it was,
Speaker 1: I would have stacks in here, would have been it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no breakfast club when we was doing that, right,
Speaker 1: and then people weren't even throwing money we did. We
Speaker 1: the first first guys on TV throwing money in a video, right.
Speaker 1: So um, I just think people just they don't, they don't,
Speaker 1: they weren't in that era of when this happened. And
Speaker 1: then they start hearing that they should compare me to somebody, right,
Speaker 1: and then that's where the that's where the lack of
Speaker 1: it happening happened came from. And then I'm from the South.
Speaker 1: I represent Atlanta right to the fullest. So therefore the
Speaker 1: South always gets slighted. It just just what it is.
Speaker 1: It's not a it's not an old no we don't.
Speaker 1: It's a true fact as we get slighted, not as
Speaker 1: much anymore, not as much anymore. No really, really, we
Speaker 1: just really got this really bad, really really bad. Recently
Speaker 1: at the Grammys. Yeah, No, No, No, No two Live Crew.
Speaker 1: Luke Scott Walker is the listen. Luke Scott Walker is
Speaker 1: the reason that the parental advisory sticker is on every
Speaker 1: rap record in the world. Right, how do you do
Speaker 1: hip hop fifty And you do not put the person
Speaker 1: who put that sticker on these records on the show.
Speaker 1: He could talk on the mic. Hedn't have to rap,
Speaker 1: he could have just came out and for representation. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're gonna, if you're gonna slight Luke,
Speaker 1: they're gonna always slight. You made the Prix because I'm
Speaker 1: saying I don't think I did the parental advisory thing.
Speaker 1: I haven't done anything that's that monumental to this is
Speaker 1: this is forever in hip hop, right, this is this
Speaker 1: was on your mixtapes, This is forever. This is something
Speaker 1: that everybody had to feel because of what they did
Speaker 1: in Miami and you can't put that man on the show, right,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. Yeah. I think about it like that
Speaker 1: Luke when survived. I don't want them to start digging
Speaker 1: up old Luke shit. They started digging up old Luke shit.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to get Luke out of here in
Speaker 1: two thousand. But you have a look back and think about,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the things that you've created, right,
Speaker 1: like because it's a lot of this stuff came from
Speaker 1: the tree of Jamaine dupri and Social death Right, people
Speaker 1: that work for you. That was intern people that you employed,
Speaker 1: and you have a look back at that and be like, people,
Speaker 1: this is from my tree, and most people don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about By the way, yesterday we was we
Speaker 1: had a listening party last night, but prior to that,
Speaker 1: we was getting ready for the listening party, was doing
Speaker 1: a photo shoot and they was playing Never Scared right,
Speaker 1: And he was like why. He was like, why are
Speaker 1: they playing this song? And I'm like, that's my artist
Speaker 1: and he was like, I was like this all right.
Speaker 1: I was like, what playlist is this? Like so so deaf?
Speaker 1: Like all right, So they played the ones you know
Speaker 1: for sure they're supposed to play like after by Wile
Speaker 1: Bounce with me went off, right, So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're just mixing it up, like playing some stuff. Really
Speaker 1: that I knew that. I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. And then when he was talking to me
Speaker 1: about that shit, the Young Blood record came on and
Speaker 1: I was like, so this one too, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? That fuck me. I'm like, I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: Like he was like, yeah, now they were sign them.
Speaker 1: Yea little John used to work for Jimmy Dubri. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the tree that you That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If he don't know this right then, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was in the restaurant with escaped them in the video.
Speaker 1: That's all I knew. I was like, his nigga did
Speaker 1: all that. I'm saying, that's the ones I knew. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know that he that he did
Speaker 1: that album for Young Blood and I had no idea
Speaker 1: knew the franchise boys right now, Yeah, I know all
Speaker 1: the people and see me if you hear me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it. You know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know that. So so it's crazy
Speaker 1: because they put this list out of executives. I think
Speaker 1: yesterday whatever the thing was like the top ten CEOs,
Speaker 1: and somebody who's asking me, do I think I should
Speaker 1: be high on the list, And I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: don't care about that list, but I should be hired.
Speaker 1: But because I'm sure they did the exact same thing
Speaker 1: he's doing. They not even factoring in half of the
Speaker 1: artists that's that's come from this tree that you speak up.
Speaker 1: But history has to matter, right, because you know, you
Speaker 1: can't have a mount Rushmore of Atlanta without Jamae dupre
Speaker 1: on them. Yeah. But you know, so if Atlanta, if
Speaker 1: the way people reve in New York, right, they're gonna
Speaker 1: put the architects of New York on, you gotta put
Speaker 1: the architects of Atlanta on. Yeah. I just think that,
Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta, modern day Atlanta is so hip hop,
Speaker 1: and um, I was doing both, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got I'm responsible for a lot of R and
Speaker 1: B that comes from Atlanta, and I'm responsible for a
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop from Atlanta. And I feel like
Speaker 1: the mind set them now when they talk about it
Speaker 1: CEOs today, it's all hip hop. It's all hip hop.
Speaker 1: So you know, even in that space, people try to like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know you did, Anthony Hamilton, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like you try to move out a
Speaker 1: lot of the things and it's it's it's just a
Speaker 1: I think it's just people just not living in the
Speaker 1: arrows or not just not knowing if you don't see me,
Speaker 1: because it's crazy because I'm the only person that I
Speaker 1: feel like if I put my tag on my record,
Speaker 1: put the tag on the record, they know. But if
Speaker 1: I don't say nothing, I just try to be straight CEO.
Speaker 1: And just like I'm putting out records, people don't ever
Speaker 1: mention me doing them songs something you feel like you
Speaker 1: got something to prove what this project? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like this, this project is
Speaker 1: really who I am. This record, this project is really
Speaker 1: what where I actually come from. This is rapp, this
Speaker 1: is what this is how I started. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: reminder to let people know that though, because I think,
Speaker 1: like I said, when people start talking my Jamay pre
Speaker 1: the first name that come out of people with Mariah
Speaker 1: carry Usher all of these you know, I'm a hip
Speaker 1: hop guy, you know what I mean? I write songs,
Speaker 1: you know, with the gift that God gave me. But
Speaker 1: I'm I'm from the hip hop world, and that's what
Speaker 1: it is. What makes you work with with new artists
Speaker 1: like we've seen you did Division's album. What makes you say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna dive into some of the
Speaker 1: new artists that are not mine as well. I mean
Speaker 1: that's how I always. I mean, that's always, that's what
Speaker 1: I did. Always. I mean, I Usher became a staple
Speaker 1: of mind because I did the same thing as I
Speaker 1: did with Division. Um, when I did Usher, nobody you
Speaker 1: know us, the face was gonna drop Usher. It was like,
Speaker 1: you mayne either works, so all of y'all it's out
Speaker 1: the door, like you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: like I've always been that guy to just like, I
Speaker 1: don't have no problem work y'all believe in the artists.
Speaker 1: I like the artists. Let's go in the studio. So
Speaker 1: I don't I don't never have the I don't even
Speaker 1: look at it like that. And I and I and
Speaker 1: I had to do that at first. But then when
Speaker 1: I did ar Lennox and her record went number one,
Speaker 1: I was like, why am I not doing this? For
Speaker 1: all these other artists out here? They needed. It ain't
Speaker 1: even like a thing that I'm doing for me. They
Speaker 1: need it. They need somebody in the studio with them
Speaker 1: that can help them take them to the next level.
Speaker 1: When you hear the conversation, like when you hear them
Speaker 1: say Usher versus Chris Brown in the verses, I think
Speaker 1: Chris is dope, but I think Usher got nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a difference between the twenty Usher
Speaker 1: would come with and the twenty Chris would come with.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's still, it's once again, it's the same.
Speaker 1: It's like hip hop, it's like currency. Right. He got
Speaker 1: he got He got way more records than a bunch
Speaker 1: of people, right. Um. I think that's where people look
Speaker 1: at They think about how many records Chris has and
Speaker 1: how many times they hear him. You hear Chris one
Speaker 1: hundred million times more than you hear Usher. So I
Speaker 1: think that's where people start basing verses on. They don't
Speaker 1: they're not you're speaking on songs. People don't even listen
Speaker 1: to songs past thirty minutes. Right. I were watching my
Speaker 1: daughter player record and the verse don't even get done.
Speaker 1: She don't get through sixteen bars, She's going to another song, right,
Speaker 1: So they don't measure the songs like you're saying. So
Speaker 1: I feel like the young generation they all gonna say
Speaker 1: Chris Brown because they're not measuring how big the songs are.
Speaker 1: But if you're a song person, you know for sure
Speaker 1: what's up. Yeah, so you think I should washing is?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, if you're a song person,
Speaker 1: having them songs as mine. So I'm fighting for my records. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I want to ask currency to You've been independent
Speaker 1: for a long time? Yeah, now break that back them?
Speaker 1: My success like really everything that anybody like really like, No,
Speaker 1: the bread, anytime I got picked up money, it was
Speaker 1: all through the independent thing. You're independent. You have to
Speaker 1: do everything yourself. You have to play paper, ducers, pay
Speaker 1: clearances everything. Yeah, does that get tiring? No? I got
Speaker 1: I got my homeboy. You know what I'm saying. Musa dude,
Speaker 1: you know we we like split everything, so it's easy.
Speaker 1: It's easy and shit. So when you had people talking
Speaker 1: independent route, do you think I've been doing this for
Speaker 1: a long time? An as easy as that they think
Speaker 1: or saying I just said it, really because you as
Speaker 1: long as you get out your own way and handle
Speaker 1: it and stop comparing yourself to other people in these situations, Like,
Speaker 1: just just do your work and when you look up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you realize what you've done
Speaker 1: and where you act. That's the whole thing. Independent people
Speaker 1: like always you keep working with the phone and watching
Speaker 1: what everybody else doing, these people with these machines behind
Speaker 1: them and all that shit, then you feel like you're
Speaker 1: on the traidmill. If you just do your work, then
Speaker 1: then you'll do it. You know, what's the most you
Speaker 1: ever got offered from a label, because I know they
Speaker 1: offered you, and you know they come with like a
Speaker 1: couple of million dollars, But it don't matter at this
Speaker 1: point now because like we see it so it's straight.
Speaker 1: That's the blessing. I always used to see, like what
Speaker 1: Master Pete turned down the deal that they tried to
Speaker 1: offer him because he knew what he was making and
Speaker 1: the way they structured down. I'm like, yeah, that was dope.
Speaker 1: But now we just flat out don't have to talk
Speaker 1: to him at all. You know, just fuck it, We're
Speaker 1: already making that shit. It's just as much as you
Speaker 1: want to roll as many times you want to start
Speaker 1: the bust and get on the road, go pick money up.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing with the independent rout You building
Speaker 1: your listeners and then you just go to see them
Speaker 1: and just just you pretty much a pop up shop yourself.
Speaker 1: You just go and travel. People who want to shop,
Speaker 1: but you, they're gonna pull up. You're gonna make your bread.
Speaker 1: So it's more de touring in the merch that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. The music is like the advertising for everything
Speaker 1: else we have. Like I can't speak on jet life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But as long as we
Speaker 1: keep upping the music out, we'll always be able to
Speaker 1: move the clothes and ship like that. And we're about
Speaker 1: to drop furniture and everything else now, so yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean it goes with the lifestyle. You know, you're
Speaker 1: doing pretty good, You're probably gonna kick back a little bit,
Speaker 1: so you know, we're gonna put out some coutures and
Speaker 1: with joint holdings, ash trays and such building you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, with lumbar support for you to be
Speaker 1: stoned and hang out and watch the TV and ship out.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you what made you create jet Life?
Speaker 1: The clothing brand, and you know it'd be nice if
Speaker 1: if if you know, you furnish this place a pain,
Speaker 1: we could do that, We could do that. We'll definitely
Speaker 1: put you out down when we come with the furniture
Speaker 1: and we're sending bigger enough boxes of close to everybody.
Speaker 1: What made you create that? Because it does so well well.
Speaker 1: I always was into like fashion. I always wanted to
Speaker 1: like put stuff on and some shit was not out
Speaker 1: some ideas that then ship that I missed a lot
Speaker 1: of clothing line stopped doing stuff that I liked, and
Speaker 1: I was al, I know what to do with Just
Speaker 1: do our own ship and keep it in that vein
Speaker 1: of the stuff I missed, and that's what works out
Speaker 1: for you. Have a surprised with the amount of support
Speaker 1: you get from the club A long Yeah, I see
Speaker 1: it everywhere Like I am a model, So I am
Speaker 1: a model, sir, I am. I am no bro, you
Speaker 1: are a great spokeshed person for the brand though I
Speaker 1: am a bottle bottle, So look, man, I am surprised
Speaker 1: on places where I don't expect to see it. And
Speaker 1: motherfucker's having on this and you could tell like that
Speaker 1: didn't know that they're having on it. It's not like
Speaker 1: some kid gave it to his mom and she's at
Speaker 1: the grocery store. I'm talking about people but into the note,
Speaker 1: such as yourself, who have it on, like like Nas
Speaker 1: after he wins the Gramm, he's got the Jet Life
Speaker 1: jacket on and like a lot of it, had a
Speaker 1: freestyle that went everywhere, and she had the Jet Life
Speaker 1: letting them in jacket on and shit. So it's like,
Speaker 1: even though I'm not in those rooms, I'm still in
Speaker 1: those rooms and shit. So it's tight because they know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you know, so they bring it everywhere
Speaker 1: whether they feel like I should be at anyway, So
Speaker 1: it's tight. I bet you used to get high and
Speaker 1: walk around furniture stores. What nah? You know? I used
Speaker 1: to get it roasted and go to the aquarium okay
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, but not not furniture. So
Speaker 1: how did you get a love for furniture? I like
Speaker 1: the chill and it's all about finding like comfortable chilling stuff.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna make our own the same reason like
Speaker 1: I didn't necessity, the same reason we did Jet Life clothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like we need better stuff
Speaker 1: to chill on. So I'm gonna feel the void. So
Speaker 1: you be sitting in the couch like this. I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like this. Mother. Yeah, I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what this shit is not. It's not different niggas to
Speaker 1: kick it on. So we're working on it. You know
Speaker 1: what made your name the album? I mean the record essence?
Speaker 1: Oh did well? You want to speak to that? Yeah? Um, well,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a rivalry between the Falcons and the Saints.
Speaker 1: This is a real thing, right, um. And for the
Speaker 1: longest when we first started working, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do an album. Once we got past
Speaker 1: the first ten songs, I kept thinking in my head,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do an album, we have to make
Speaker 1: something that speaks to that rivalry. Or we can't act
Speaker 1: like because we ain't supposed to be cool when that
Speaker 1: game come on, right, So we can't act like we
Speaker 1: don't know this, Like, this is something that you know.
Speaker 1: If you're from Atlanta, you know that. If you're from
Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know that, right. So then we both
Speaker 1: start trying to find out why it's a rivalry. But
Speaker 1: then it's also a love there. It's a love that
Speaker 1: you know if you're from Atlanta. You talk about going
Speaker 1: to Essence Fest in January, it don't happen to July. Right,
Speaker 1: This is something we prepare for all like the top
Speaker 1: of the year. People like it, you know, they're getting
Speaker 1: their clothes ready in January to go to New Orleans. Um,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, um, it's vice versa. When people
Speaker 1: come to Atlanta for the games from New Orleans. They
Speaker 1: come out there and they have a good time. They
Speaker 1: love the city. So it's a love hate situation, and um,
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that brings that love and
Speaker 1: that hate together is the Essence Fest. Right, So it
Speaker 1: was just only right. And then once we got to
Speaker 1: bounce the record, and it was to bounce and the vibe,
Speaker 1: and he had never wrapped over a record like that,
Speaker 1: now that he's a full fledged professional artist, Um, it
Speaker 1: just made sense to like bring all of that in
Speaker 1: and not leave one piece of that out. And I
Speaker 1: think the Essence Fest brings every piece of the fact
Speaker 1: that the first time you heard Get the Game, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard it at a party and that's when first
Speaker 1: heard so you know the way my mind worked, I'm like, Noah,
Speaker 1: that's it. The gavel dropped right, now that's the name.
Speaker 1: That's the name of it. That's a New Orleans classic, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I told him, like it's in the fiber of all
Speaker 1: the music that ever came out after it from New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Everybody who rapped has rapped over that beat. Like the
Speaker 1: first rap you ever wrote was over that, I promise.
Speaker 1: Like in the club you ever been to, you could
Speaker 1: have been eleven years old. They knew you could rap.
Speaker 1: That was the beat they put off you can rap,
Speaker 1: and you had to rap over that ship like straight up,
Speaker 1: so everybody knows it. JD. Did you create one or
Speaker 1: six apart? Yeah, I mean, you know, see the funny
Speaker 1: part about this. The funny part about this is that, um,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't speak about I mean, I'm a CEO, right,
Speaker 1: So this this goes into the world of like what
Speaker 1: were just talking about. If you don't see Jermanity pre working,
Speaker 1: you don't see me doing what we gotta do, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna always you're not gonna believe anything that happens,
Speaker 1: right because I wasn't when Charlemagne just said I wanted
Speaker 1: to reverse this and ask you a question, when you said,
Speaker 1: get the respect that I'm supposed to get How do
Speaker 1: you feel when you see something that you didn't think
Speaker 1: was gonna work? That's mine and it works. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I mean, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't make you feel anyone. You probably don't care. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, I never thought about it. But
Speaker 1: if I'm thinking about it, I'm like, well, why would
Speaker 1: anybody doubt somebody who's made several things work? Okay, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying so when I brought the kids from the
Speaker 1: rap game here, remember this, he was like, I want
Speaker 1: to see no kids? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. How does that make you
Speaker 1: feel like? It? Don't make you feel like, oh, I
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm saying that's that's what That's what's happened, right.
Speaker 1: So that's the same thing that's happened here, right if
Speaker 1: you what I should say is j D congratulations again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but nobody says that. Don't want to congratulations. But I'm saying, um,
Speaker 1: I say that to say that if I if I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have brought them here. Y'all saw the kids. You've
Speaker 1: seen them from scratch before there was ever anybody If
Speaker 1: you didn't see it and nobody else and people have
Speaker 1: forgot about that show at this point. And I said,
Speaker 1: I created a TV show that introduced you to Loto.
Speaker 1: Somebody would challenge that. Somebody would challenge you and say, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't and you know what I mean. Like, so
Speaker 1: it's the same thing when when when I saw MTV
Speaker 1: TRL right, I used to drive down the street because
Speaker 1: we was working. I was working here, I drive that street.
Speaker 1: I see all these kids outside on in Tom Square
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, why black kids don't have a
Speaker 1: show like this? Right Meanwhile, I'm making the BAA record
Speaker 1: and I'm like, BT needs to do this now. If
Speaker 1: they had this idea and they mind prior to me
Speaker 1: saying this, then God blessed them. But I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: artists was they gonna launch that show with? Because I
Speaker 1: provided the artists that made that show what that show became. Right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no Chris Brown before Bow. It wasn't no
Speaker 1: Little Romeo before Bow. It wasn't no littles. And I
Speaker 1: think somebody got mad at me for saying the little
Speaker 1: because I ki it was a little Kim And I'm
Speaker 1: clearing this up. I meant the littles of his era,
Speaker 1: not the little John's Yes, a little person forever. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I'm talking about all of little Romeos Zane,
Speaker 1: Like who I mean, I don't know, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean these people that came and that bow wow Lane,
Speaker 1: That's what I meant. But I'm what I'm I'm still saying.
Speaker 1: If people don't realize that, you know, that's why people
Speaker 1: don't even understand that I'm the one who gave Biow
Speaker 1: the name is the one those six and part BT
Speaker 1: didn't give him that name, So why would I name
Speaker 1: him that? You know what I'm saying, Like, why would
Speaker 1: I put that in a verse to say I'm missed
Speaker 1: the one THO six and part So why wouldn't Stephen
Speaker 1: Hill just acknowledge that because he said it wasn't true?
Speaker 1: Just didn't create one. Um, I believe that. You know
Speaker 1: I didn't work at B two, right, So if you
Speaker 1: and I have a conversation, you don't come back to
Speaker 1: this office and tell everybody I talked to Jermaine for
Speaker 1: two hours, three hours on the phone. You're just gonna
Speaker 1: come back in here and say, Envy, let's do this.
Speaker 1: I don't do that I'd like to give people their credit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean it wasn't about me. I didn't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want the credit for one those six and
Speaker 1: part right, I'm not even saying I'm not speaking on
Speaker 1: it now about me wanting the credit. What I was
Speaker 1: speaking on on that show was the fact that what
Speaker 1: I do for my artist right when when you are
Speaker 1: part of what I'm doing, I'm gonna call envy and
Speaker 1: be like dog they said we couldn't come to the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. What's happening. I'm gonna take that extra mile
Speaker 1: to do what I have to do to make sure
Speaker 1: that my artists get that stretch right. And that's all
Speaker 1: I was saying. I put a call in to Stephen
Speaker 1: Hill and say, Yo, we need to do a show
Speaker 1: that looks like blah blah blah blah blah because I
Speaker 1: have this new artist by the name of bow Wow.
Speaker 1: If that is that me making it, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I know that that's what happened. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And people can take however they want
Speaker 1: to take it. I don't understand you and bow All
Speaker 1: the relationship. Yeah, why don't you just grabbing put them
Speaker 1: in the headline give him a nugget and then y'all family.
Speaker 1: When he says things like he regrets signing to you,
Speaker 1: it's like, we your JD made you a superstar. It's
Speaker 1: also it's all I think. I think the outside world.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same thing I said, you kids
Speaker 1: of today and this generational hip hop, we have a
Speaker 1: lost appreciation for things, right And that's why I said
Speaker 1: about being with currency, it's it's you. Everywhere I go,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people don't have appreciation for hip hop and
Speaker 1: that has become a thing in hip hop now, to
Speaker 1: not appreciate the things that came and got you to
Speaker 1: this space, right. Um, and he was it was like
Speaker 1: a father figured him. Yeah, but I know he was
Speaker 1: like his sudden I feel like the outside world makes
Speaker 1: you not appreciate that. That's what I'm saying. It's that's
Speaker 1: what it does. It's it's the hip hop word. Are
Speaker 1: we live in right now? Don't appreciate shit, like for real,
Speaker 1: Like when I wore the hot top fade the other
Speaker 1: day in the video, right, it's people on there that's
Speaker 1: so much more concerned with me thinking that I want
Speaker 1: to wear this at at my age and saying I'm
Speaker 1: going to a midlife crisis, as opposed to looking at
Speaker 1: it and saying, damn, that's some shit. That hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's what you would do if you was what hip
Speaker 1: hop did, right. Hip Hop made niggas do any and everything,
Speaker 1: and we never had a problem. We never questioned it.
Speaker 1: It was because it was hip hop. And now if
Speaker 1: you do something that hip hop makes you do, or
Speaker 1: if you even try to this, no appreciation for it.
Speaker 1: And that's that's I think that's where that is. And
Speaker 1: I feel like ba Wow is in that space where
Speaker 1: he has to deal with you guys. He has to
Speaker 1: deal with younger guys. And the media definitely don't appreciate nothing, right.
Speaker 1: They just they don't. They don't. They don't until it's
Speaker 1: until it's over with. But it's just certain people like
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna fight with Right, and we can fight
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I'm never gonna fight with Clue, Right,
Speaker 1: that's that's my brother. I'm never gonna fight with Fab.
Speaker 1: Even you, I'm not gonna fight with you. You know,
Speaker 1: we could get into an argument, but it just seems
Speaker 1: something else was there, which is just hard to understand
Speaker 1: because I mean, I will fight but fighting argue. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But yeah, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I only have no reason to argue. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like I understand it. I understand don't. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you but but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't understand it because you haven't had
Speaker 1: to deal with a person that has to go through this.
Speaker 1: This a rapper, right, you're a rapper. You say this,
Speaker 1: you're a rapper, and people challenge you. If you write
Speaker 1: your lyrics, people challenge you on this, people challenge you
Speaker 1: on that that that it's hard for a person to
Speaker 1: actually deal with that, um, if you're not prepared for it. Right, me, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck with nobody will say about
Speaker 1: me because I know what I do and I know
Speaker 1: I'm out doing everything the damn and everybody else is doing,
Speaker 1: so I'm not even paying no attention to it. But
Speaker 1: the majority of people, they can't deal with it. That's
Speaker 1: why that's why the instagram is where the instagram is,
Speaker 1: because every time somebody says something, people look right, and
Speaker 1: that's I feel like that's where he is. He gets
Speaker 1: caught up in that and he's got caught up in
Speaker 1: that a lot, Right, without me being around, he got
Speaker 1: caught up in that they's created or what the bow
Speaker 1: I challenge. I wouldn't a part of that, Right, How
Speaker 1: do you deal with that as a person? Right? He
Speaker 1: had to deal with it and you killed him. Right,
Speaker 1: it's just listening to know what I'm saying, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's like when a person is
Speaker 1: dealing with that, they become they just get tight and
Speaker 1: they want to you know what i mean. So then
Speaker 1: you want to try to like make it seem like
Speaker 1: you got it all you hand, you got it all
Speaker 1: on you know, it's you got it, it's your it's
Speaker 1: my thing. So it's like, you know, it's just a
Speaker 1: situation where you gotta you gotta know how to deal
Speaker 1: with it. And you don't get coaching by this. I
Speaker 1: didn't coach him that. I didn't teach him how to
Speaker 1: deal with that part of life. But he asked to
Speaker 1: know somebody eventually gonna do that to him too, and
Speaker 1: they do do it like people will take away act
Speaker 1: like wo has just always been on Instagrams like full
Speaker 1: fledged superstar. Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: no appreciation for anything in hip hop anymore. Damn you
Speaker 1: feel like we currency too. No, as he's saying it,
Speaker 1: I'm peeping it around like that. That that is insane.
Speaker 1: They just wipe that all out. That's crazy. You feel
Speaker 1: like people don't have appreciation of hip hop. I feel
Speaker 1: like what people don't have an appreciation for hip I
Speaker 1: have appreciation for things? What what brought what brought them
Speaker 1: into it? Like what made you want to do it?
Speaker 1: That's all? You know what I'm saying. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not why why you want to do it? Everybody's doing
Speaker 1: it now like the same reason everybody started selling friendship puppets,
Speaker 1: like they just wanted to get money. It's just a flip,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's not no real love
Speaker 1: in it. Are you selling front of puppies? Yeah? People
Speaker 1: see that. That's the way, Like that's the new dope.
Speaker 1: So they're like, fucking let's just do this right quick.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. J D and Puff
Speaker 1: is supposed to do versus who you got your money?
Speaker 1: I'll roll with j D at basically based on all
Speaker 1: of the shit that I'm finding out, like oh you
Speaker 1: did this, you did that, Like yesterday I had like
Speaker 1: a revelation. I'm like, I don't know how this would
Speaker 1: actually look when you're ragining these artists, like people gonna
Speaker 1: be the same way. I was shocked, and I think
Speaker 1: I'm like bun in the game. I know everything. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But I was like knocked on
Speaker 1: my ass yesterday or some shit. So that's what it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. A whole arena of people like, oh you
Speaker 1: know he did? Oh wait, all right, well yesh shit,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Goddamn you know like that, that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's the way I see it straight up. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how many records puffle
Speaker 1: bring out that I'm going back. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: I think I know? Ever, did I think I know it?
Speaker 1: You know? So how do you feel about it, J
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't don't. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, I I just look at it. I
Speaker 1: actually see it. I see the chart, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, um, but like you said,
Speaker 1: it's not only the records, it's also what that record
Speaker 1: did for the culture, right, Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm it's like I said, I'm not. I'm like I
Speaker 1: said about the Chris Brown thing. I believe that in
Speaker 1: versus world, people won't give it to us because of
Speaker 1: the way the mindset has been, you know, been treated.
Speaker 1: We've done that battle in him with kids, Like with
Speaker 1: kids like that twenty five twenty six Usher catalog still
Speaker 1: rings timeless to them because their parents was listening to us.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that. Oh I forgot about it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, like I said, I feel
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's I mean, I'm the underdog.
Speaker 1: I'm not even tripping on that though I'm the underdog.
Speaker 1: That's not true though, I mean, I'm not and that
Speaker 1: and that thing. It was a Vegas card. I think
Speaker 1: that you know, everybody the favor would be, you know
Speaker 1: that he would be, that he would be the underdog.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to me that people who haven't paid attention there, No,
Speaker 1: they haven't. But that's what I'm saying. I'm the underdog
Speaker 1: because it's like people who everybody, everybody sits around and
Speaker 1: they say they're the ones who are running this bit.
Speaker 1: They sit around and they say he can't match up,
Speaker 1: and they only talking about big That's it how long
Speaker 1: I've been saying that. That's all he said. You just
Speaker 1: say big, he said rap. That's why I said take
Speaker 1: out It should be an R and B remix versus
Speaker 1: take Out the Road because you can't be big records
Speaker 1: because not only because they're great records of nostalgia, big immortal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's the only reason why people
Speaker 1: say he can't match up because they're talking about big,
Speaker 1: and they're talking about big. You're talking about big, biggest big.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, it's if it was a fight, I
Speaker 1: don't go into the fight thinking I'm not gonna get punched.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just when I throw
Speaker 1: mine and when he throw is That's what it is.
Speaker 1: It ain't about he got punches. I got punches too,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It is what it is. Is
Speaker 1: Is its gonna happen for real? Or is it just
Speaker 1: just talk? No, It's gonna happen. It's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's bigger than what people think. What we want to
Speaker 1: do is bigger than what what everybody's thinking about, and
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that you know it. Come
Speaker 1: across the way it's supposed to come. Acros'll do it.
Speaker 1: You'a gotta do figure out how to do two, because
Speaker 1: you can't just do one in Atlanta. You gotta do
Speaker 1: one like Atlanta in New York. You gotta got to
Speaker 1: pick a neutral location to be honest or something. You
Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do. Atlanta, gotta do Atlanta,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta do New York. Gotta do Apollo,
Speaker 1: and you gotta do R and B in remixes. Do
Speaker 1: R and B in one city, hip hopping another. And
Speaker 1: see the problem with the remixes. I saw somebody saying
Speaker 1: this the other day, Right, half a Bad Boy remixes
Speaker 1: idea right, So the Big Popper remix, I did it right,
Speaker 1: right the Total and Craig I mean total and Keith Furry,
Speaker 1: I did it right total, first first record that ever
Speaker 1: came out, got Brad on it right. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: how do you score that? How do you score that?
Speaker 1: You gotta drop those out. You can't drop them out.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, so you
Speaker 1: do the remake. But I saw somebody saying, but in
Speaker 1: New York, we ain't played at JD remix, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, my remix. Yes, we did the
Speaker 1: Biggie the Big Poper remix. I don't I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I'm seeing people say that on Twitter, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's either way you do it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a fight whether we in New
Speaker 1: York or were in the Atlanta. Either way, what came first?
Speaker 1: Was it we invented the remix bad Boy album or
Speaker 1: the definition of a remix Social Death album? Um, I
Speaker 1: think mine was coming first. And I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know which one came out, you know, but I
Speaker 1: mean still I don't know. I mean, the remix thing
Speaker 1: has always gonna battle between us. But it's it's interesting,
Speaker 1: like I said, because Puff was using me for remixes.
Speaker 1: It's not like I was a challenge for him. Back then.
Speaker 1: It was like go to j D and get a
Speaker 1: remix for Big Papa, Go to j D and get
Speaker 1: a remix for a total um that. You know. I
Speaker 1: always wondered how much influence did you in Atlanta have
Speaker 1: on Big because you know, we saw you saw y'all
Speaker 1: in big videos, a lot of all Big in y'all videos,
Speaker 1: and I remember hearing somebody said Big, I think it
Speaker 1: was Jays. Somebody said Big was gonna move to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: At one point. We're trying to get everybody by houses
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I mean, well, I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but he and I spoke, Me and him talk all
Speaker 1: the time because we was on tour. It was me,
Speaker 1: Bratt and Craig Mac. We was all on tour UM
Speaker 1: and we was doing like the Chitland Circuit. And in
Speaker 1: that Chitland circuit run, Craig Mac was the hottest, then
Speaker 1: Bratt and then Big, and Big was frustrated with the
Speaker 1: fact that his records aren't as popular as Functified and
Speaker 1: Flavoring at the time. UM. And that's actually how I
Speaker 1: got to do the remix, because Big felt like he
Speaker 1: needed me to get into that space where Bratt was.
Speaker 1: The record was out during that time Juicy Jure in
Speaker 1: New York, the Chitland Circuit, but the Chitland Circuit around
Speaker 1: where we lived in Atlanta, they hadn't they hadn't caught yet. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, the Flavoring your ear didn't Functified and
Speaker 1: then Juicy, I mean people were working with it but
Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't like Head over Hills, and it
Speaker 1: was driving him crazy. And he talked to me every
Speaker 1: day about doing a remix, and I finally did Big
Speaker 1: popa remix, and then that's when we did the B
Speaker 1: side with him at Bratt. He came to Atlanta. And
Speaker 1: when he came to Atlanta, yeah, he probably you know,
Speaker 1: because I brought him to College Park. He came to
Speaker 1: my hood and did that song, so he probably soaked up.
Speaker 1: I need to move out here. That's basically the same
Speaker 1: thing that happens to everybody when they come out there.
Speaker 1: You see what one last day thing? You see what
Speaker 1: young Jock said about you? And did he said the
Speaker 1: different between you? And did he that? Did he understands
Speaker 1: marketing and that's what he got over well, I think
Speaker 1: he said that. Did he took his artist tree him
Speaker 1: as an artist more serious than me. Um, he's right,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm all about making new artist. I'm
Speaker 1: all about putting Oh, I was all about putting out artists.
Speaker 1: You know, even like this this album, the incurrency got Um,
Speaker 1: I'm rapping on the record, but I'm not rapping all
Speaker 1: over the record because you know, what I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's who I am. I'm a producer first, and I've
Speaker 1: always been that way, and I think that that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's one thing that he was saying. But even the
Speaker 1: job Jock was signed and Social Death for one day
Speaker 1: before that Bad Boy deal and Block and Block switched
Speaker 1: it and they went to bad Wood. I didn't do
Speaker 1: that that he signed. If he signed, I'm saying he
Speaker 1: was signed because the person who produced the record was
Speaker 1: signed to me as a producer. So Nitya signed the
Speaker 1: Social Defensive producer. So I wasn't even thinking about, Like
Speaker 1: I wasn't even pressing because I'm like, I know this
Speaker 1: is my song, like we were said Virgin at this time,
Speaker 1: Like I know this song is coming over here. It's easy, right,
Speaker 1: And I had already had the franchise where he's having
Speaker 1: all the success. I'm like, it's no way, possibly you
Speaker 1: don't give us this record. If you find the first
Speaker 1: version of it's going down it says Social Deaf at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the record, right. So I was cool,
Speaker 1: like clearly like, oh we got this. I went to sleep,
Speaker 1: woke up the neck morning. How did that happen? I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't sign. I didn't actually sign him, right, It's like,
Speaker 1: you signed to me, and I know you're gonna do
Speaker 1: the right thing for song and you already doesn't say
Speaker 1: social deaf at the beginning of the record. So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's got my tag, it's got a tag on it already,
Speaker 1: were cool. I'm gonna go to sleep, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So yeah, it was that. That was that situation.
Speaker 1: What it's going down? That's puty because I was even
Speaker 1: thinking about that. We're having these conversations about the South
Speaker 1: and how the South don't get respect. Like I saw
Speaker 1: Jock in the interview in the person interview in him
Speaker 1: was like, how does it feel to have a career
Speaker 1: for twenty years with just one hit? And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there thinking, like Jack got like seven to eight off.
Speaker 1: That's that's that slight I'm talking about yet slighted. But
Speaker 1: you ever go back and think about the fight that
Speaker 1: you would had to do that, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know, which opened the doors for a
Speaker 1: lot of those Southern artists. That's That's one of the
Speaker 1: other statements I said in that interview that people was
Speaker 1: like Jermin's it's all cap it's just Cap and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, listen. It was a time in New York
Speaker 1: when Southern Rappers was not on the radio at one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five o'clock in the afternoon, right, and I
Speaker 1: was frustrated. I'm like, you know what, we gotta figure
Speaker 1: out how to get in. I hired Envy to introduce
Speaker 1: me to the streets in New York and move around
Speaker 1: down so I could be able to be so people
Speaker 1: to see my face and be more out here. Nobody
Speaker 1: from the South beat the streets like me. You noticed
Speaker 1: rights and the way that we beat the streets, and
Speaker 1: we made never Scared permanent state record in New York.
Speaker 1: We put Cameron and Buster runs, and we did everything
Speaker 1: to make sure that that the South was, you know,
Speaker 1: represented well in this town. Um. And then the young
Speaker 1: Blood's record, and these two records became so popular in
Speaker 1: New York alone that you heard them like there was Atlanta.
Speaker 1: And to me, that was the beginning of all of
Speaker 1: these other records being heard on the radio the way
Speaker 1: they heard today. And if I'm wrong, then I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but I remember they told JD. Oh, I think they
Speaker 1: liked me. Yeah, they told j D to take the
Speaker 1: franchise boys off, just leave it ja may dupree. And
Speaker 1: that's the only way that they were gonna spin it
Speaker 1: in New York. So there was no mind playing tricks
Speaker 1: on me. Didn't play no no limits, not like this.
Speaker 1: We I'm talking about mid no mix show. All the
Speaker 1: records was mixed show. I'm talking about no mix show.
Speaker 1: Just you turn on the radio and you hit these records.
Speaker 1: You never heard the song outcast, not like this, not
Speaker 1: like wow wow. With everybody selling their catalog, you think,
Speaker 1: y'all two whatever we think about selling, y'all. Uh, I
Speaker 1: understand how why people do it? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. They called me with four hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars, all right, what's you know? How many generations
Speaker 1: of us are gonna be okay off this four hundred tickets?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll fucking do it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for all my reversions, y'all. Don't hear people
Speaker 1: talk about that much. But I'm waiting on mine because
Speaker 1: everything that came out of ninety two is coming back
Speaker 1: to me one percent. Everything that came back in ninety three,
Speaker 1: ninety four is coming back to me. One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I wrote one hundred percent of all of Escape Records.
Speaker 1: I wrote one hundred percent of Chris Cross, I wrote
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of Usher My Way. When the record
Speaker 1: I'm when they come back, which when they come back,
Speaker 1: because you'll have a deal with with Sony as a
Speaker 1: publishing situation, but the reversions it comes back to me
Speaker 1: and I don't have a deal with them. So when
Speaker 1: when when the reversions come back and somebody walk up
Speaker 1: and you know, and they got that ticket heat talk about,
Speaker 1: and you know it might be it might be a
Speaker 1: conversation explaining that JD. Because you've always been the CEO.
Speaker 1: So I didn't like, even with writers, you have to
Speaker 1: give over some of the you make either make a
Speaker 1: publishing deal when you're younger, right, I made a publishing
Speaker 1: deal when I was like what nineteen, That's when that's
Speaker 1: when I got my money. They gave me. You know,
Speaker 1: you give them a million dollars. That's the first million
Speaker 1: dollars I got from that Sony UM. And it's like
Speaker 1: a joint. It's like a fifty fifty split publishing situation. UM,
Speaker 1: and then you know it. I've been over there since
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, which is a long time. But you know,
Speaker 1: they get all the songs, so all the songs that
Speaker 1: you make, they go into this thing and you and
Speaker 1: you know, I recouped two three times. Right. I could
Speaker 1: have left a bunch of times, but I stayed. And
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm just waiting now too, because I never,
Speaker 1: by the way, when I started writing songs to hear
Speaker 1: that in twenty five years you get your reversions or whatever.
Speaker 1: I never even thought I'd make it that long. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm here, I'm past that point at this
Speaker 1: point now. So now I'm like, shit, come on, so damn.
Speaker 1: At one point, Michael Jackson, don't have your publish Yeah,
Speaker 1: did y'all ever talk about that? Nah, it's it's not
Speaker 1: it's not even thought about from that type of perspective.
Speaker 1: But yet because I mean at the time when no,
Speaker 1: but no, because that was after you, That was after
Speaker 1: because Sony, it was it was m I at first.
Speaker 1: So so Sony bought em I, Michael Jackson bought he
Speaker 1: bought the company that that I was in business with
Speaker 1: at that point, or a TV or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and that, um, that's when they turned it in't there?
Speaker 1: So at first? Nah, the beginning of my career wasn't
Speaker 1: like that. But later on it yeah, later on. Wow,
Speaker 1: did you see the Janet Jackson documentary? And of course
Speaker 1: you've seen it and people people were trying to get
Speaker 1: you to get back with Janet. Did you see that?
Speaker 1: Like the memes are going on and saying that that
Speaker 1: y'all will be a perfect couple. You ever thought you
Speaker 1: ever thought about rekindling that? Uh? I don't think I
Speaker 1: thought about it started thing I'm sitting around thinking about,
Speaker 1: you know, if it happened, it happened. Even when you're
Speaker 1: smoking with currency that high grade week don't cross your mind.
Speaker 1: I tried. I tried for the two years, and knowing
Speaker 1: them to pass him a joint, you don't get out,
Speaker 1: not even close. He smoked hoopers. You still get high currency.
Speaker 1: Does it still impact you in that way? No, it's
Speaker 1: just you know, it just levels everything else. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I get high higher the more sober I get, Like,
Speaker 1: the further removed away from weed I am, Like if
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the airport or something, I start like
Speaker 1: being hilarious, I'm becoming more sober. Yeah, you still think
Speaker 1: you got a great ear j D. A great era
Speaker 1: the greatest, you know what I mean as far as um.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think I think it's like I
Speaker 1: said once again, I feel like it's unappreciated, um because
Speaker 1: people don't care about that anymore. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: People don't. They don't care if you find an amazing singer, Um,
Speaker 1: they want to know if that amazing singer. Like it's
Speaker 1: like crazy, Like if a person is actually really really
Speaker 1: talented and they come from church, they probably only got
Speaker 1: like two followers on Instagram right the business that we end.
Speaker 1: They could be Aretha Franklin and you could take them
Speaker 1: to the label right now, and they will be like,
Speaker 1: do she got one hundred thousand followers? We'll wait till
Speaker 1: she comes. We'll wait and come back and see when
Speaker 1: when you got a little bit of followers, what is that? Right?
Speaker 1: So it's like to question my ear. That's that's my ears.
Speaker 1: I'll find a Reta Franklin and somebody will be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. About that, Yeah, it's about
Speaker 1: who she's dating. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: she got to fight somewhere as their footage of it, now,
Speaker 1: let's drop this. I think that's how people felt about
Speaker 1: the Division record though, it was like, this record feels
Speaker 1: like a gimmick as opposed to a classic R and
Speaker 1: B record that a j D would be attached to.
Speaker 1: I don't, well, you know what I think. This is
Speaker 1: what I think is I think that it's the fifth album. Right. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, the people that think they're saying that
Speaker 1: they just learned who they were through me, that's true
Speaker 1: my channels. My channels are very much hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: right if they're on a fifth album, how is it
Speaker 1: a gimmick. It's like it's a fifth record, right, Um,
Speaker 1: you just learned about Division. You just found out who
Speaker 1: they were because they got a Recordd's on a radio, right,
Speaker 1: and Jamaine Dupre and Brian Cox did the song cool.
Speaker 1: And it's controversial because it's saying something, but you just,
Speaker 1: you know, I just think. I think, I I honestly
Speaker 1: feel like what Chris Rock has been saying, the selective
Speaker 1: outrage outrage weighs heavy on me. It just does because
Speaker 1: you know, right now, Division has one of the biggest
Speaker 1: songs on TikTok with the touch It right, and people
Speaker 1: keep complaining that I keep overposting it. I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: my record what I'm supposed to do, right, And it's
Speaker 1: like when other people do that, don't abo they do it?
Speaker 1: They do it when I do it? Yeah. See, so
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I just think it's that selective
Speaker 1: outrage and it's it's you know, you can say that,
Speaker 1: but you just learned who division was Jda Curcy gotta go.
Speaker 1: Oh last question escape? Who opens up? Who? We just
Speaker 1: heard that discussion this week. I went here for both
Speaker 1: of y'all think about it on the records they got um.
Speaker 1: If I was still if I was still like the
Speaker 1: Frank running mindset of Escape, I would escape it open wow,
Speaker 1: because the pain that they're gonna put in before you know,
Speaker 1: coming coming after Escape is hard. They really sing. It's
Speaker 1: not like a you know, fuck all the bickering and beef.
Speaker 1: They really can sing, right. So it's like, and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying as WV can't but oh yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they can't sing. I'm just saying I've always had
Speaker 1: that mindset. I've all always had that mindset about me
Speaker 1: as a as a as an entertainer, like let me
Speaker 1: go first, right, because I feel like it's harder for
Speaker 1: the person to figure out what they gotta do afterwards.
Speaker 1: I remember saying jay Z saying that he he went
Speaker 1: on after DMX one night and DMX took his shirt
Speaker 1: off and he started pouring water on him and he
Speaker 1: was backstage like, Man, what the fuck I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: when I come out there? That is the mindset that
Speaker 1: you had right until you get out. Then the crowd
Speaker 1: make it different. But put that pressure on the person
Speaker 1: to make them sit back then and try to figure
Speaker 1: out what they're gonna do when they come out. That's
Speaker 1: what I would do. Yeah, I think I think they
Speaker 1: should do different markets, right as WV New York. Certain
Speaker 1: areas I think they should close, but Atlanta escape out
Speaker 1: of closing Atlanta. Yeah, Like I said, I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: argue about it. I just because I don't I personally
Speaker 1: feel like that that that closing first thing. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's just all it's mental. I remember going to
Speaker 1: the Triple Threat concert, right, and it was Albi Shure
Speaker 1: uh BBD and I want to say, Bobby Brown right,
Speaker 1: and you know I love all of them. BBD was
Speaker 1: busting Bobby Brown ass. You know, for the time period
Speaker 1: that they came in, Bobby brought you know, he did
Speaker 1: he had to do and pulling up the rib. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying them being where they were, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad slot. It's not a thing that I was
Speaker 1: thinking about, like, damn, BBD should have closed. They was
Speaker 1: killing it. I mean, poison was at the height at
Speaker 1: poison at the time when I saw this, so it
Speaker 1: felt like they should have closed. But you know, when
Speaker 1: when Bobby came on and Tenderni and all these records
Speaker 1: came on, you realize why he was the closer, right,
Speaker 1: So I just feel like me personally, I look at
Speaker 1: that performance slot thing different. All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen, yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure you pick up the album they do precuracy
Speaker 1: motivational use only. All right, Well, it's the Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: is JD and Curacy, y'all? Yeah, wake that ass up
Speaker 1: in the morning. Breakfast Club