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Speaker 1: Strange News segment where we look at stories that may
Speaker 1: not have made the headlines or require some further analysis.
Speaker 1: We're going to spend a lot of time in Russia today,
Speaker 1: though perhaps not the way you expect. There is a
Speaker 1: guy who's still not in jail named Steven Seagal. You
Speaker 1: might have seen him in some films. He'll be in
Speaker 1: today's story. There is a there's a guy over in
Speaker 1: Europe who is being sued for aiding and abetting a
Speaker 1: possible incest crisis. You heard that correctly, And before we
Speaker 1: do any of that, Matt, I think there's a story
Speaker 1: that you and I clocked, especially about an unfortunate death
Speaker 1: over in Russia. Yes, that's correct. On this past Saturday,
Speaker 1: as we're recording this April second, a headline flashed across
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera that we noticed it was Russian military blogger
Speaker 1: killed in Saint Petersburg cafe blast. And anytime we noticed
Speaker 1: that a journalist of any form has been killed, we
Speaker 1: definitely take note. And this is no different here. No
Speaker 1: matter what they're writing about or what their political leanings are,
Speaker 1: we should talk about it when a journalist gets killed.
Speaker 1: So let's get to the nitty gritty here. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: April second, the same day that that was posted at
Speaker 1: three thirteen PMGMT, that's Greenwich meantime, eleven thirteen hour time
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta, an explosion occurred at the street food
Speaker 1: bar Number one cafe in Saint Petersburg, that is, in Russia.
Speaker 1: An explosion within the cafe injured somewhere between twenty five
Speaker 1: and thirty people, depending on where you're reading your reports from,
Speaker 1: because it says twenty five were injured in that Al
Speaker 1: Jazeera article, but in other places that says around thirty people.
Speaker 1: There was one person that was killed. That person's name
Speaker 1: was Vladlin tartas Ski. This person's real name was a
Speaker 1: Maxim Foeman, but everyone knew him as Tartowski because he
Speaker 1: had a very popular telegram channel that had over five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand subscribers, around five hundred and sixty thousand. I
Speaker 1: believe this person was a hardline supporter of the quote
Speaker 1: special military operation or action that Russia is carrying out
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, also known as the Ukraine War. To most
Speaker 1: people across the world, this person is very interesting, probably
Speaker 1: not somebody I personally would have liked or followed, But
Speaker 1: again it's important that we at least talk about it
Speaker 1: because this appears to have been a targeted killing. This
Speaker 1: explosion appears to have come from a statue that was
Speaker 1: given to him just minutes before the explosion occurred. And
Speaker 1: again this is within a crowded cafe, but the other
Speaker 1: people in the cafe may have also been targeted, which
Speaker 1: is something we need to talk about. All right, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down through the rest of this Al
Speaker 1: Jazeera article just to give us some important stuff. A
Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg website, according to Al Jazeera, said that the
Speaker 1: explosion took place at this cafe that at one time
Speaker 1: belonged to somebody we've talked about on this show before,
Speaker 1: Yveghini Pregosian, the founder of the Wagner group, that is
Speaker 1: the I don't know, I guess the blackwater equivalent in
Speaker 1: Russia that we've spoken about before on this show. Mercenaries, right,
Speaker 1: private contractors, private military contractors. Oh, and prisoners, private military
Speaker 1: prisoner contractors. Here we go, there you go. So the
Speaker 1: reason that Tartosky was even at this location, at this
Speaker 1: cafe is because this cafe that was once owned by
Speaker 1: yvgh Pregosian was given to this group of telegram users
Speaker 1: who were very much pro Russia, pro war, and what
Speaker 1: is the name of it, ben the cyber Front Z
Speaker 1: movement or z z Okay cyber Front Z movement. So
Speaker 1: this group of people controlled the cafe. They would have
Speaker 1: talks there on a pretty regular basis, and this was
Speaker 1: one of those talks. It's a little weird having the
Speaker 1: political connection there to the Wagner group. Right, it does
Speaker 1: feel like this group of bloggers maybe we're more connected
Speaker 1: to the war effort than a lot of other independent
Speaker 1: bloggers that existed out there on the planet. So this
Speaker 1: already makes it feel a little fishy, that makes it
Speaker 1: feel more targeted. Let's get to the explosion itself. Who
Speaker 1: may have carried it out and why? So a video
Speaker 1: was posted that appears to show the moments just before
Speaker 1: the explosion. You can see a woman carrying a package
Speaker 1: walk up to mister Tartowski and hand this package over
Speaker 1: another person. A third person takes the statue out and
Speaker 1: shows it to Tartoski, who then talks about it and
Speaker 1: kind of jokes about it, and then puts the statue
Speaker 1: it down. Then the video stops, at least the one
Speaker 1: that I have seen, But between two and three minutes
Speaker 1: after that statue is placed like right next to this blogger,
Speaker 1: it explodes and the whole cafe explodes. So then the
Speaker 1: question was on the second of April when this was posted,
Speaker 1: who the heck is that woman? Why would she put
Speaker 1: a bomb in a statue? And you know, why would
Speaker 1: is that? What this was basically there was a huge
Speaker 1: investigation that was launched, and literally over the course of
Speaker 1: I think about twenty four hours, there were already some answers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they found the person, or they in this case being
Speaker 1: the Russian Investigative Committee came out with a statement shortly after.
Speaker 1: And this person appears to have a story all her own, right,
Speaker 1: she's fairly young as well, Yes, this person is fairly young.
Speaker 1: You can. Let's just jump over to another article here
Speaker 1: from CNN was posted the next day, on April third.
Speaker 1: The title is Russia arrests anti war activist following blast
Speaker 1: that killed hawkish blogger. You can find that right now
Speaker 1: if you want to check it out. Serious headline writing
Speaker 1: right there. I just want to point out, all right,
Speaker 1: well you can see the slant and again I'm pulling
Speaker 1: from al Jazier here, CNN, some British sources, other country sources,
Speaker 1: just to show that the headlines themselves really show the
Speaker 1: bias triangulating sources. Yeah, hmm, I mean it's it's pretty intense.
Speaker 1: If you go through this stuff, the CNN article, you
Speaker 1: can feel it a little bit. So let's see, let's
Speaker 1: jump down to talking about who this person was. The
Speaker 1: woman's name is Daria Triopava. She was allegedly a supporter
Speaker 1: of Alexei Navalny, another person we've talked about on the show,
Speaker 1: one of Vladmir's biggest detractors, who was currently in prison,
Speaker 1: was once poisoned. We've talked about all of that on
Speaker 1: the show before. She was previously arrested at a protest
Speaker 1: of the Special Military Action and or Ukraine War, and
Speaker 1: that is one of the reasons I think why she
Speaker 1: was immediately targeted by the investigation as hey, why were
Speaker 1: you even there at this place that is generally filled
Speaker 1: with people who support the war efforts in Russia. And
Speaker 1: she also carried the statute that appears to be the
Speaker 1: thing that held the explosives. It should be noted that
Speaker 1: when this was first reported, nobody was sure if the
Speaker 1: explosives were actually in that statue or not. It was
Speaker 1: thought that perhaps they were, you know, somewhere else, placed
Speaker 1: somewhere else close to the stage area where this speech
Speaker 1: was happening. But it does appear, at least according to
Speaker 1: the official sources there in Russia, the statue was the
Speaker 1: thing that exploded. Question, Matt, Now, I've seen this as
Speaker 1: a Tripova. This is a person who has been kind
Speaker 1: of a known enemy of the Russian push into Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Is there any history here or how much do we
Speaker 1: know about this person who, for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 1: does seem to be the vector for the bombing. I
Speaker 1: don't know a ton about her. Yeah, do you have
Speaker 1: more information on her? Ben? Maybe this is for a
Speaker 1: future episode. We still haven't done a series on Russian assassinations.
Speaker 1: But one thing I think is interesting is that the
Speaker 1: Russian news sources are saying this was a Ukrainian op.
Speaker 1: Did you see that They are saying that. Of course
Speaker 1: they're saying that. That makes sense, right, because then the
Speaker 1: Ukrainian forces are saying, no, this is Russia carrying out
Speaker 1: a false flag attack in order to blame Ukraine or
Speaker 1: in order to you know, It's just it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's all the things you imagine. The officials would say, right, well,
Speaker 1: no you did it because of this. Well no you
Speaker 1: did it because of that plus this. It's going back
Speaker 1: and forth. There's no real information. What we do have
Speaker 1: is is a statement from her husband, which was really interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you just some quotes from him. Quote.
Speaker 1: She was really set up and used over the last
Speaker 1: day I contacted her, but I lost contact about four
Speaker 1: to five hours ago. This is immediately following the explosion.
Speaker 1: All I knew was that Daria needed either for some
Speaker 1: task or for some reason, to give some gift. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what. There is one very important point
Speaker 1: that she told me several times. She was sure that
Speaker 1: this thing would allow access to a person. That is,
Speaker 1: it was not something that should have exploded. Dasha who
Speaker 1: that's how he refers to Daria in principle is not
Speaker 1: the kind of person who would kill anyone. And then guys,
Speaker 1: Russian authorities released a video of Daria being interviewed or
Speaker 1: being interrogated. Rather, is what it looks like and she
Speaker 1: states she states, yes, I was the one that brought
Speaker 1: the statue in. Yes, that was me. And they asked, well,
Speaker 1: who gave you the statue or how did you get
Speaker 1: the statue and she said, I will tell you that later,
Speaker 1: like as in she can't say it within this interrogation
Speaker 1: for some reason. Okay, so she is like she has
Speaker 1: been apprehended, she is currently held by Russian authorities. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's being held by where that was That statement was
Speaker 1: put out by the authorities after they interrogated her. Is
Speaker 1: very strange that she would say, well, I can't tell
Speaker 1: you who gave me the statue or how I got it,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you later. It's very very strange. What
Speaker 1: kind of the explosed those would have to be, you know,
Speaker 1: in the statue of that size to create that much carnage.
Speaker 1: I mean, a fairly small amount of c four would
Speaker 1: do the trick. It's a mini Trojan horse, yea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there are other substances that could cause a massive
Speaker 1: explosion like that too. Again, it didn't obliterate the cafe,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It caused a lot of damage.
Speaker 1: You can see that damage online if you search for
Speaker 1: it right now. Oh, there was one other thing. There
Speaker 1: was a witness who was at the cafe who sat
Speaker 1: next to this person in question, Miss trip of A.
Speaker 1: And this comes from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. They put
Speaker 1: out an article on April third and it says a
Speaker 1: witness said that a woman who identified herself as Natzia
Speaker 1: asked questions and exchange remarks with Tatarski. During the discussion.
Speaker 1: The witness quoted Nazia as saying she had made a
Speaker 1: bust the statue of the blogger, but the guards when
Speaker 1: she came in, asked her to leave it at the door,
Speaker 1: suspecting it could be a bomb. This is what the
Speaker 1: winnows says. Nazia and Tartoski joked and laughed about it.
Speaker 1: Then she went to the door, picked up a box
Speaker 1: that contained the bust and presented it to him up
Speaker 1: on the stage area. He put the bust on a
Speaker 1: nearby table with this other third person and the explosion
Speaker 1: followed almost immediately afterwards. So they were joking about it
Speaker 1: having a bomb right before it went off. I guess
Speaker 1: one of the questions a lot of our fellow conspiracy
Speaker 1: realists will have is why would you accept a random
Speaker 1: statue of yourself as a gift. Tatarski is a is
Speaker 1: kind of an internet influencer. Right before his death, he
Speaker 1: was very popular on telegram. He was also a huge
Speaker 1: proponent of Russia's current war on Ukraine, such that I
Speaker 1: think Matt he would also criticize the Russian war effort
Speaker 1: for not going far enough. Yeah, he got he really
Speaker 1: got his claim to fame when he put out a
Speaker 1: video that went viral and it's got a horrible quote.
Speaker 1: I can read it to you guys if you want,
Speaker 1: but he's based. He was at the location in the
Speaker 1: Kremlin when when Putin basically announced that they were taking
Speaker 1: over these four territories within Ukraine. And his video, this
Speaker 1: guy it was basically saying, we're not going hard enough.
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill everybody we need to kill. We're gonna
Speaker 1: loot everything we need to loot. We're gonna have it
Speaker 1: our way, and that's it. God be with you. That's
Speaker 1: me paraphrasing. But it was like, really like it just
Speaker 1: pro Russian war, right, That's what it was, and that's
Speaker 1: that's who this guy was. He even embedded himself a
Speaker 1: couple of times within the military during like frontline action
Speaker 1: intense stuff. Yeah, and then we have to ask if
Speaker 1: this guy is being sort of a war propagandist on
Speaker 1: a I would argue a street level propagandist. Right, he's
Speaker 1: not an Alexander Dugan or something. Well, he was born
Speaker 1: in Denesk, right, which is one of the places that
Speaker 1: Russia annexed, So he's got he's maybe got some feels
Speaker 1: about that, grew in that way, felt pro Russian from
Speaker 1: the start. He's being used, as you said, been definitely
Speaker 1: he was being used point being he's not out writing
Speaker 1: things like foundations of geopolitics. I'm just it's strange to
Speaker 1: me because the Russian government, if I understand correctly, is
Speaker 1: saying the Ukrainian forces conducted an assassination. Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Is that what the state arms are saying? Yes, but
Speaker 1: they're also trying to connect this person that they've picked
Speaker 1: up directly to Nivalni, which is interesting. So that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily that doesn't have anything to do with Ukraine necessarily,
Speaker 1: So it's really it appears the Kremlin is just trying
Speaker 1: to apply it to anybody that could be potentially opposing them.
Speaker 1: In this case, it would be Russian citizens within the
Speaker 1: country who are fighting against the war movement and potentially
Speaker 1: making them the bad guy. Right, Yeah, still out the
Speaker 1: number one killer of dissidents in Russia, which is of
Speaker 1: course the notorious third story window. There you go, there
Speaker 1: you go? Well, yeah, and I guess that's where we
Speaker 1: have to end it, because is that what's actually happening
Speaker 1: or was it a false flag, you know, from Russia
Speaker 1: to make these things happen or was it something else?
Speaker 1: Who knows. We'll have to keep watching to find out more. Yeah. Wow,
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Speaker 1: This is an interesting story. It is a story that
Speaker 1: unfortunately may hit home with a lot of people in
Speaker 1: our audience today. You guys knew about sperm banks, right,
Speaker 1: everybody knows what a sperm bank is. How would you
Speaker 1: describe it to someone who's never heard of it? I've
Speaker 1: always been a little foggy. Are you selling it? Is
Speaker 1: it like your plasma? Being a donor doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 1: you're giving it for free, right, The term donor is
Speaker 1: a little misleading there, right, Yes, a sperm bank clinic
Speaker 1: essentially exists to liaise between people who have viable sperm
Speaker 1: and people who want to have a kid, right or
Speaker 1: create a family to your question, In some cases, in
Speaker 1: many cases, there is a fee paid for donating sperm, right,
Speaker 1: and there are also any number of options regarding if
Speaker 1: and how a future child resulting from that transaction may
Speaker 1: be able to contact their biological father. In the case
Speaker 1: of like a plasma bank, you're probably not going to
Speaker 1: meet the people to whom you're donating blood. But in
Speaker 1: the case of sperm donor, then it is possible that
Speaker 1: several decades or years down the road, you will meet
Speaker 1: someone who is your biological offspring. If you have donated
Speaker 1: to a sperm bank, it is a bit weird they've
Speaker 1: got Like when you go in, there's basically a menu. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean are you looking for? Yes, there are weird demographics.
Speaker 1: They're boutique I guess we call them boutique donation bureaus
Speaker 1: wherein it might only be people who are members of MENSA,
Speaker 1: which is an intellectually fraudulent organization. There might also be demographics. Right,
Speaker 1: we want someone, We want a donor who has insert
Speaker 1: here attributes, whatever they may be. And with this in mind,
Speaker 1: you can see how the business gets a little murky. Right.
Speaker 1: And also if there's not a nationwide darres, a worldwide
Speaker 1: regulation for this kind of stuff, then it's quite possible
Speaker 1: to go from town to town just drifting through the
Speaker 1: spurn banks. And sometimes people do this if they can
Speaker 1: meet the requirements. Right, you want to be substance abuse free.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have any clearly heritable genetic plot twist.
Speaker 1: You can supplement your income doing this, but there will
Speaker 1: be consequences down the road. This is where the story
Speaker 1: of Jonathan Jacob Mejier begins. He is currently the proven
Speaker 1: father of hundreds of children and the lawsuit is saying
Speaker 1: that he fathered five hundred and fifty children. And yes
Speaker 1: there's a lawsuit because this individual is being sued for
Speaker 1: increasing the risk of unknowing incest across parts of Europe.
Speaker 1: Are okay to impact? This is what you call sewing
Speaker 1: your wild oats I reckon, uh like, but taking it
Speaker 1: to the extreme. Um So wait, so when you do this,
Speaker 1: when you when you become a sperm donor again misleading term. Um,
Speaker 1: are you agreeing to not do it too many times?
Speaker 1: Is there is there a cap at what point? Okay?
Speaker 1: But how is that communicated? And how is that um tract?
Speaker 1: That's that's the rub, that's the issue, because what if
Speaker 1: you live in a place like Europe where the next
Speaker 1: country and a new regiment of laws, it's just a
Speaker 1: train ride away, you know and probably like what forty
Speaker 1: bucks if you go ryanair. Uh. It was just the
Speaker 1: same guy that got all the COVID vaccines, Remember that guy.
Speaker 1: I was in Europe too, and it was a similar grift.
Speaker 1: I know, it was a similar thing where he was
Speaker 1: able to go to other countries, adjacent countries and do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: under this So this is a Dutch national musician, and
Speaker 1: under the Dutch government, if you're a sperm donor, you
Speaker 1: cannot have more than twenty five children via sperm donation.
Speaker 1: You cannot impregnate just in general, more than twelve women.
Speaker 1: This is all meant to prevent inbreeding, incest or psychological
Speaker 1: problems for kids when they find out, surprise, you're not
Speaker 1: an only child. We're pulling a lot of this from
Speaker 1: some great sources that are they're all ultimately reporting London
Speaker 1: Times article, but you can you can find the information
Speaker 1: pretty easily. Our boy, Jonathan Jacob not Jingleheimer Schmidt, has
Speaker 1: already gotten in trouble for this. In twenty seventeen, a
Speaker 1: band went out against him because he had fathered a
Speaker 1: hundred and two children. Now, this individual lives in Kenya
Speaker 1: and he has donated sperm in Denmark and in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the investigation into this guy comes
Speaker 1: from something called the Donor Kind Foundation like the word
Speaker 1: donor and kind put together in the Netherlands, and they
Speaker 1: have filed this civil lawsuit against him alleging that he
Speaker 1: has actively continually lied about the number of children he
Speaker 1: has fathered through these programs, taking advantage of this lack
Speaker 1: of communication between the different countries, the different programs. I
Speaker 1: know this is a sensitive topic for a lot of
Speaker 1: us listening today, and I wanted to ask everybody should
Speaker 1: it be illegal to donate material like this at this level?
Speaker 1: The gene pool thing certainly sets some alarm bells because
Speaker 1: I mean, if there were no checks on it, conceivably
Speaker 1: someone could do serious damage to like a population over time. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't do this. I do have a solution, though.
Speaker 1: We take somebody like Jacob and like what's his name,
Speaker 1: Jan Karbat that I think we've mentioned in passing before,
Speaker 1: didn't we. That was another Dutch dude. He like ran
Speaker 1: a sperm clinic and he fathered like ninety people the
Speaker 1: same same kind of deal. Take these guys get that sperm,
Speaker 1: that that amazing sperm that they have it it was
Speaker 1: just regular sperm. They're just regular people. Well, now, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I was just reading how one in six
Speaker 1: people are infertile. Now that are that walk around on
Speaker 1: this planet? One in six people are infertile, which you know,
Speaker 1: this is a regular sperm. This is kind of super sperm.
Speaker 1: Let's save it all up. Let's bank that stuff and
Speaker 1: this guy's agent when an apocalypse have wepens come on,
Speaker 1: we can RePOP get a bunch of John Jacobs. So
Speaker 1: look with the with the right amount of deception, it
Speaker 1: turns out anybody can be their own personal Jengis Khan right.
Speaker 1: But the issue here is one of dais say, personal responsibility.
Speaker 1: I mean, ethics are notoriously difficult to enforce. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot of the people who were partnering with
Speaker 1: these sperm banks right to have a child, A lot
Speaker 1: of them weren't informed that this would be one of
Speaker 1: ninety nine kids or one of insert hundreds here. And
Speaker 1: that feels like important information to have, does it not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does, it very much does. And you know, we
Speaker 1: were talking a little bit off air about how an
Speaker 1: anonymous colleague friend of ours has has done this not
Speaker 1: this many times, but a significant number of times, and
Speaker 1: how this individual was able to find out that exact number,
Speaker 1: because I mean, presumably you know there are maybe maybe
Speaker 1: a sample wasn't viable or something like that, or every
Speaker 1: time you donate that it doesn't necessarily mean a child
Speaker 1: will be born, does it? So if you're a Jacob
Speaker 1: or one of these other guys, and then yeah, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: well yeah he got that. He's got that method man sperm.
Speaker 1: But like, I just think it's odd to be able
Speaker 1: to get that kind of information. I mean, it's almost
Speaker 1: seems like one step shy of like getting names and addresses,
Speaker 1: you know, like in an adoption scenario, which I think
Speaker 1: only happens at the behest of the adopted child. Later
Speaker 1: in life, they can request some communication with their birth
Speaker 1: parents and then you know that's handled through the agency.
Speaker 1: Is there such an arrangement for donor children. That's a
Speaker 1: great question. The issue hinges on the rights of the
Speaker 1: people who are donating these materials. Donating sperm are people
Speaker 1: saving their eggs, and not just the rights of the
Speaker 1: people who are on the other side of the equation,
Speaker 1: but what are the rights of the children. They are
Speaker 1: absolute by standards in this situation. You don't get to
Speaker 1: choose who your parents are just yet. And ask someone
Speaker 1: who has donated in the past, I will say I
Speaker 1: get a little freaked out what I hear about stories
Speaker 1: like these now when you say donated, Yeah, I'm just joking,
Speaker 1: and I do loaded. Let somebody borrow some for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, yeah, take it around the block. So
Speaker 1: this this is weird to me because I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be an increasingly common issue. And the
Speaker 1: current lawsuit is a civil lawsuit, it's not a criminal lawsuit.
Speaker 1: But I cannot help, but wonder what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I even read through the Oh, the attorney for door Kind,
Speaker 1: Mark de Heck, who said they only took legal action
Speaker 1: after multiple women apparently reached out to this guy on
Speaker 1: numerous occasions and said, please stop with the donations, Please stop.
Speaker 1: There are too many of your psion out here. And
Speaker 1: he refused. Yeah, He's like, well, come on, this is
Speaker 1: how I make my money. Man, paybe sure, paybe I'll stop.
Speaker 1: So the foundation is going to ask him to do this, Matt.
Speaker 1: They're going to ask the court to order him to
Speaker 1: stop donating sperm, and not only that, but to have
Speaker 1: all of his previously donated sperm destroyed unless it's reserved
Speaker 1: for a woman who's already given birth to a child
Speaker 1: that is biologically his. Wow. Yeah, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But he's donated under fake names as well. Under I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, there's identity protection, which further complicates it. But
Speaker 1: the allegations are the guy is gaming the system and
Speaker 1: for many people, families, couples, singles, who who feel that
Speaker 1: they have been taken advantage of. Here, this gets this
Speaker 1: gets pretty gross, right Like this would you can say
Speaker 1: this is not informed consent, right, Isn't that the issue?
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, yeah, that's I don't know. The issue
Speaker 1: is just he's holding the world hostage with his It's
Speaker 1: just regular and a lot of these, a lot of
Speaker 1: these clinics because you know, we're not accusing them of
Speaker 1: being bad actors, but because they don't communicate across international borders.
Speaker 1: You know, you can say, okay, I'm obeying the Australian
Speaker 1: guidelines that a donor can only inseminate five instances, right,
Speaker 1: but then I'll just go to another country. Right, and
Speaker 1: now it's starting over. It's a brand new me. I
Speaker 1: just said. This picture of him holding on to his
Speaker 1: tackle like the way you would a gun or something
Speaker 1: in a hostage situation, and just like the world is
Speaker 1: on the other side. He's like, please, please, Jacob stop,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop. He's like, you can't stop me, like
Speaker 1: that Dave Chappelle joke about the hobo on the bus,
Speaker 1: remember that one. There's also there's also the fact that
Speaker 1: he would write these motivation letters for certain sperm banks,
Speaker 1: talking about why he was the best to help these
Speaker 1: people realize their dream of having children. This is malignant narcissism.
Speaker 1: I would argue, he just really likes donating maybe, or
Speaker 1: he really or he really needed the cash, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But also if you're traveling the world and you're still
Speaker 1: doing this, do you really need the cash? Is it
Speaker 1: just like I wish I wasn't fathering hundreds of children,
Speaker 1: but I need some scratch for the plane ticket. Well,
Speaker 1: what it is? You get to a new town, head
Speaker 1: to the hostel, find out where the closest donation center is,
Speaker 1: make some scratch, Move on to the next hostel, find
Speaker 1: one there, make some scratch. So like a sperm carning yea.
Speaker 1: So what Tyler Dirton and Fight Club refers to us
Speaker 1: setting up franchises. Yea. So this is an ongoing issue.
Speaker 1: We've got some appointments of our own to keep, so
Speaker 1: this may have to be an episode in the future.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pause for word from our sponsors. We're going
Speaker 1: back to Russia to learn just just like how bad.
Speaker 1: Their training is Today episodes filled with sticky situations. Boy,
Speaker 1: and we're back with one more piece of strange news. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna in on a light note today, kind of,
Speaker 1: I guess, depending on your take on mister Steven Seagal
Speaker 1: seen stevens Yeah, okay, he gets the boo justifiable booze.
Speaker 1: He's look, I'm not gonna this is out of the
Speaker 1: context of today's discussion here, but he has been known
Speaker 1: to like flash women and just do kind of genuinely
Speaker 1: gross things with women, and just seems like kind of
Speaker 1: a you know, timanti Steven Seagal. For good reasons. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are things that that have widely been circulated throughout
Speaker 1: the years hadn't have been reported, Um, you know about
Speaker 1: his behavior in those regards, We're not talking about that today. Um.
Speaker 1: You can have any number of reasons for just liking
Speaker 1: Steven Seagal. One might be that he essentially is claiming
Speaker 1: to be a Russian at this point, he is really
Speaker 1: buddy buddy with Vladimir Putin. He's been given some very
Speaker 1: high accolades, one in particular with a very delightful name,
Speaker 1: the Order of Friendship from from Vladimir putin himself. He
Speaker 1: refers to himself as being one million percent Russian and
Speaker 1: now he is h he's taking he's putting his money
Speaker 1: where his mouth is that those percentage points of russianness. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he has opened a school for a training academy
Speaker 1: for a Kido Aikido called the Typhoon All Russian Ikido's
Speaker 1: Center Um, where he recently participated in a ribbon cutting
Speaker 1: with a very very small ribbon. As as Newsweek points off,
Speaker 1: it is actually not the newest of stories. This is
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks old. Um. But I just thought
Speaker 1: it was worthwhile because we don't get to talk about
Speaker 1: Steven Sagal nearly enough. Was the one where he was
Speaker 1: on the train and then and then like there was
Speaker 1: a sequel to it undersea underseas. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's it. No, that was it. It was it was
Speaker 1: It was a train heist. Okay, go on. Undersiege. There
Speaker 1: was one with a ship too, though, hold on a second, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: hang on. There was underseas two dark territory. But in
Speaker 1: the first tep on board navy battleship USS Missouri, a
Speaker 1: group of terrorists used the routes of a surprise party
Speaker 1: for the Captain Rouse rather as an opportunity to take
Speaker 1: control and start some sort of international incident. There was
Speaker 1: definitely one with a train, though, Guys, was it the
Speaker 1: was it the one where he pretends to be a
Speaker 1: member of Louisiana law enforcement? Because the real isn't that
Speaker 1: the real life thing? Really? Yeah? Yeah, it's real the
Speaker 1: way Reality TV Israel. Oh I'm sorry. Unders Age Part
Speaker 1: one is on a ship under siege two Dark Territory
Speaker 1: on a train, also involving Yeah, his his character's his
Speaker 1: name is uh Casey rye Back. He's an ex Navy
Speaker 1: seal who keeps getting into all kinds of sticky situations.
Speaker 1: Not even not even the multiple uh multiple lawsuits for
Speaker 1: sexual harassment, assaults, conduct, Yeah, thank you. These are all
Speaker 1: very real things. Um So, you know, it's sort of
Speaker 1: like what Dennis Rodman did, you know with Kim Jong un?
Speaker 1: You know, or you've got real buddy buddy with him
Speaker 1: and became this kind of celebrity over there and you know,
Speaker 1: making the rounds and stuff, and you gotta wonder, like,
Speaker 1: is it you're sort of canceled in your own country?
Speaker 1: Um So you go kind of buddy up with a dictator.
Speaker 1: Is that the thinking here? Why why does he like
Speaker 1: Russians so much? Well, it goes back, uh, for many years, honestly.
Speaker 1: He also, I mean even before a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the United States were really thinking about Ukraine and Russia,
Speaker 1: he was. He was ten toes down for the annexation
Speaker 1: of Crimea back in twenty fourteen, you know, and this
Speaker 1: got him in trouble abroad because he I think he's
Speaker 1: just always uh, he's always loved the autocrats, dictators. He
Speaker 1: definitely supports Houtin's version of Russia and people's beliefs are
Speaker 1: their own. But he's had Russian citizenship since August twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: or since November twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen. Yeah again back
Speaker 1: annexation of Crimea. Yeah, yeah, no, no, you're dear spot
Speaker 1: on with that timeline. He also he is an investor
Speaker 1: in Russian business. There's something called the Gorky Holding Company
Speaker 1: that Segal has a twenty six percent stake in and
Speaker 1: was gifted a massive plot of land in Odensovo strict
Speaker 1: And this is reported by the Russian news outlet Baza M. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Moscow authorities actually gave the company eight point two hectares
Speaker 1: or twenty acres of land with a market value of
Speaker 1: eight hundred million rubles, where the company is intending to
Speaker 1: build a information center for martial arts. Once again, this
Speaker 1: is this is different. This is separate from the Typhoon School.
Speaker 1: By the way, So back back to the Typhoon School. Um,
Speaker 1: this is what Segal had to say at the ribbon cutting.
Speaker 1: I am very glad to be able to present this
Speaker 1: center today and that I Kedo will develop here. These
Speaker 1: arts can make this world a better place. Buried the
Speaker 1: lead here a little bit. By the way, there was
Speaker 1: a statement from the Typhoons Center saying that that it
Speaker 1: was actually intended. This intended use would be quote training
Speaker 1: for service in the Russian Armed Forces. Okay, and by
Speaker 1: the way, Akedo is is men, you're more familiar with
Speaker 1: martial arts stuff, Matt, I know you are too, with
Speaker 1: the MMA stuff. I believe that Akito techniques are used
Speaker 1: in MMA fighting. That's hard to say, um, but they
Speaker 1: are pretty exclusively defensive, aren't they. Yeah, it's not really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, maybe it is. It's maybe
Speaker 1: it's what you would call a soft martial art like
Speaker 1: it's it's about the redirection of energy. That's right. It's
Speaker 1: so it's not banned in mixed martial arts or MMA,
Speaker 1: but it's probably not very common, I would say, Matt,
Speaker 1: would you agree with that? Yeah, jiu jitsu techniques are
Speaker 1: probably way more prominent, at least one when I've watched fights. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the comment section on this Newsweek article is a who uh,
Speaker 1: we've got one here from Bill saying good news for
Speaker 1: Ukraine because ikedo is an entirely useless martial art or.
Speaker 1: The demonstrations are literally students performing rehearsed pratfalls. What's bizarre
Speaker 1: is that the Russian military already uses the highly effective
Speaker 1: art of sambo. Sambo is nasty, man shambo is brutal.
Speaker 1: It's also like also a keto doesn't um. A big
Speaker 1: thing about aketo is you don't want to harm other people,
Speaker 1: and a big thing about sambo, like Kraft McGaw, is
Speaker 1: the idea of incapacitating an opponent as quickly as possible,
Speaker 1: like punching someone in the throat like things like that, right, yes,
Speaker 1: serious business. Yeah, so it's it's funny and you know,
Speaker 1: and look, we're not here to body shame anybody or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but you know, I mean Sigal when
Speaker 1: he's doing these demonstrations, he's got a little punch going
Speaker 1: on these days, he's not. He's he's a shade of
Speaker 1: his former you know, uh, under siege self. And they're
Speaker 1: a little goofy looking because it does, to the to
Speaker 1: the commenter's point, kind of look like the way soccer
Speaker 1: players look when they get like grazed on the field.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get the ground and like clutch them there
Speaker 1: themselves and go into a fetal position like it is
Speaker 1: highly performative, at least an appearance. Um. Another comment here
Speaker 1: from Fred says too little, too late. Martial arts is
Speaker 1: only good for hand to hand combat. That anyone tells
Speaker 1: Steven Segal how drones and electronics replaced trench warfare where
Speaker 1: foes are kilometers apart, if not more. Dropping grenades to
Speaker 1: make conspicuous drones is the new strategy with drone operators
Speaker 1: skilled in radio control replaces martial arts. So that's a
Speaker 1: good point. It is a good point. It's not clearly
Speaker 1: an optics thing, you know. Okay, So I was gonna ask,
Speaker 1: do you think it's propaganda? Do you think that's you?
Speaker 1: We got your movie star America First of all, you
Speaker 1: can have him, right, we have the guy from under
Speaker 1: Siege and Their Siege and Understiege two Dark Territory. UM
Speaker 1: can't even think of any of his other movies. They're
Speaker 1: they're really bad by the way they're they're they're like
Speaker 1: sub Gean Claude Van Damn, you know, and no, no
Speaker 1: shade on Jean Claude. I like some of these the
Speaker 1: time cop come on time Cops, slaps above the law,
Speaker 1: hard to kill, Yes, right, yeah, I think. Okay, So
Speaker 1: the thing is with this, maybe there is a bit
Speaker 1: of nostalgia. I know I've never met Steven Seagal and
Speaker 1: look forward to not having to hang out with him,
Speaker 1: just to be again candid because they don't care for
Speaker 1: sexual predators. But I do understand the appeal, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily crap on a stranger if I
Speaker 1: am just hearing these reports about them. But they seem
Speaker 1: pretty confirmed in multiple US courts cases, and practitioners of
Speaker 1: various martial arts don't have a lot of great stuff
Speaker 1: to say about him. I mean, they kind of paint
Speaker 1: him as a paper tiger. I have to ask what
Speaker 1: the value is there. I saw in an interview noal,
Speaker 1: that he had earlier said he being Stephen Skull, that
Speaker 1: he had considered himself one hundred percent rush. You noted
Speaker 1: that well earlier. That's from an interview where he says
Speaker 1: his dad comes from Russia and he was raised kind
Speaker 1: of in Russian culture despite being born in the US. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's a sincere thing for him. Maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like it's a plot twist. Maybe he
Speaker 1: feels like he's actually helping. Maybe uh yeah, unclear, But
Speaker 1: I do want to point out, though, whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be, with his Russian you know, patriotism, house incere,
Speaker 1: it might be. Um, he has a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot of movies with the word kill in the title. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got hard to Kill, out for a kill, driven
Speaker 1: to kill. Let's see kill switch and how could we
Speaker 1: forget twenty sixteens contract to Kill? Yeah? Look, man, how
Speaker 1: dare among this film as well? Segal might be above
Speaker 1: the law and hard to kill? Okay, So he might
Speaker 1: be monster, but he's marked definitely a danger. He's a
Speaker 1: dangerous man, that's for sure. But yeah, he's marked for death.
Speaker 1: He's got a fire down below, and he's out for justice.
Speaker 1: He's certainly under siege because this this ike at least
Speaker 1: in this show, because this uh, this dojo, and he's
Speaker 1: created several over his quote unquote career. This dojo is
Speaker 1: I think from like Russia. State media confirmed this. It's
Speaker 1: meant to prepare young people for service in the Russian
Speaker 1: Armed forces. So he's not teaching, right, He's not teaching
Speaker 1: actual soldiers, actual combat. He's kind of doing like an
Speaker 1: ROTC thing. Is that? What would you say? It definitely
Speaker 1: feels like that. Yeah, yeah, you kind of nailed it. Um.
Speaker 1: The last thing is I do remember this movie. The
Speaker 1: title still gives me a chuckle. It's called The Glimmer
Speaker 1: Man with his co star Keenan Ivory Wayes and Brian
Speaker 1: Cox of Succession Fame, which is just back on the
Speaker 1: air and a hell of a show, way better than
Speaker 1: any Steven Seagal movies. But um, there is there is
Speaker 1: a Kevin Bacon connection there, um, at least one one
Speaker 1: degree of Kevin Bacon. Um. But that's all I got.
Speaker 1: Steven Seagal in Russia teaching teaching aikido, teaching aikido, which
Speaker 1: is a beautiful art, right, And as as you established earlier,
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a wartime art like sambo or KRAFTMGA.
Speaker 1: But we have to see how it develops. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: Steve has his own take on aikido that is a
Speaker 1: little bit more militarized. Well, we'll have to wait to
Speaker 1: see how that how that develops. This week's Strange News
Speaker 1: has been a wild ride. There's a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: we didn't get to. So I think, gentlemen, we'll have
Speaker 1: to do another Strange News in the future. What do
Speaker 1: you say, Oh yeah, next week? Maybe what are you
Speaker 1: Nostra damis? All right? Maybe next week let's pull out
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Speaker 1: we really want your take on what's going on with
Speaker 1: the various contradicting narratives about the tragedy there in Saint Petersburg.
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