Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty three,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Good Daily, My Guys Today production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This Well, this is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Monday,
Speaker 1: April seventeenth, twenty twenty three. Don't know what that is?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Don't ask you know who knows? When they don't even
Speaker 1: get me? Sorry, don't even get me a sit Monday,
Speaker 1: Glen I right, yeah, somebody's got a case on the Monday.
Speaker 1: My name's Jack O'Brien aka somebody once told me it's
Speaker 1: all the cold gast study. You take the guns, the
Speaker 1: there's less holes in heads. That's courtesy alc a Roni.
Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my.
Speaker 3: Co host mister Miles Gras Miles Gray aka what would
Speaker 3: you do IF's I baby at home crying on the
Speaker 3: loan on the bedroom floor.
Speaker 4: Because he wants beats and the only way to feed
Speaker 4: him is the fuck like DM with a little bit
Speaker 4: of mustard. Her Majesty's at work. Maybe sing some park
Speaker 4: now or some hits from side Town. Gotta wom my
Speaker 4: voice now, So for you, this is just a good time.
Speaker 4: But for me, it's the Daily's Eye.
Speaker 1: Guys. Okay, shout out Locaroni on that one too. Locaroni
Speaker 1: did two, Got this with two A twofer for the
Speaker 1: a K's shout out for the cycle. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Miles, we are through it to be
Speaker 1: joined by a very funny comedian actor whose Netflix special
Speaker 1: Beer Dos Landing is apt. Now he's got four of those,
Speaker 1: by the way, we're he got him. He's wearing the
Speaker 1: four rings. Yeah, the four Netflix special Like, uh, Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: please welcome Beer Doe.
Speaker 5: What's up? Guys. Wouldn't it be great if I had
Speaker 5: like a long Hindi song about me and like nobody
Speaker 5: understood it, also known as they spent five minutes singing
Speaker 5: in Hindi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have loved it.
Speaker 3: I mean it would have piqued my interest, just like
Speaker 3: in that one bit and Landing where you talked about
Speaker 3: how the differ between American sex and how you have
Speaker 3: sex and you're like, I'm not going to translate that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I wish I had the translation
Speaker 3: of what you were saying in that bit, but you know,
Speaker 3: I'll leave that to my imagination.
Speaker 5: Well, I can give it to you. It's basically, every
Speaker 5: time I'm done having sex, I'm like, make God bless
Speaker 5: you and to hope you come back. If you did
Speaker 5: anything wrong, please forgive me.
Speaker 3: That's basically okay, yeah, because the beginning is juxtaposing.
Speaker 1: Americans are like.
Speaker 3: Almost I'm going about to clap those cheeks, you know,
Speaker 3: speaking indeed, very.
Speaker 1: Very deferent.
Speaker 5: I've never clapped cheks, by the way, I've never clapped
Speaker 5: anybody's cheeks. This is not in my skill set.
Speaker 1: Just a golf maybe like golf clap of cheeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe I always feel like apologizing, but it's good to
Speaker 1: like hear just like a really deferential like thank you,
Speaker 1: thank God, thank you every everyone, what has just happened?
Speaker 1: That that is definitely more in line with my energy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with this isn't.
Speaker 5: A nice just lie naked next to a woman and
Speaker 5: be like, can we acknowledge that this is a blessing
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think that's that's it's a good sexual and you.
Speaker 3: And and and it was good for you, right, Okay, good,
Speaker 3: that's a blessing too, that everything's a blessing right now?
Speaker 1: Thank you? So much. No pressure, no pressure, no pressure,
Speaker 1: no pressure. All right, we are going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment via. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. We're going to talk about GOP
Speaker 1: donors being worried about that old abortion boomerang and and
Speaker 1: their plan, which seems to be pray for a distraction,
Speaker 1: pray for something terrible to happen that they can run
Speaker 1: on because this ain't it. We'll talk about the woke alerts,
Speaker 1: which is a new conservative strategy that we're seeing with
Speaker 1: this like bud light ship, but it's basically to sleeping
Speaker 1: giants the mainstream media into being right wing, like being hateful.
Speaker 3: So it's like, well timber alert, like a child abduction
Speaker 3: notice that you get on your phone, except for like
Speaker 3: this company alert.
Speaker 1: They're into equality. Oh yeah, okay, And by the way,
Speaker 1: I am not I would not be surprised to see
Speaker 1: it work, because corporations not the bravest entities in the world.
Speaker 1: You'll be surprised to learn. We're gonna talk about this
Speaker 1: policy that I was not aware of that states that
Speaker 1: when a gun is seized by the police, like for instance,
Speaker 1: the gun that was used in Monday's mass shooting in Louisville.
Speaker 1: They have to get that right back out on the streets.
Speaker 1: There's like a law that says, got to get that
Speaker 1: out there. We can't hold onto this. It's hot. It's
Speaker 1: a hot item. We gotta make sure that people have
Speaker 1: this gunback so they're already By the time you hear this,
Speaker 1: it will have already been sold at auction to a
Speaker 1: licensed dealer, with twenty percent going to the police department
Speaker 1: and the rest going to the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security. Wow,
Speaker 1: Kentucky Office of I don't know. That just did something
Speaker 1: to my imagination where I was like, Yo, what is
Speaker 1: it like in the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3: I think it just be like suspicious of every brown person,
Speaker 3: every brown enters the state.
Speaker 1: Have what's this guy? Who's this guy? Who's this guy?
Speaker 5: Kentucky Homeland Guys, I'm in Kentucky next week, are you glovo.
Speaker 1: Good? I was gonna say, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: on there watch list. So we're gonna we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that plenty more. But first Verer we like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history.
Speaker 5: Two things. I'm actively looking for this sort of jet
Speaker 5: lag remedies because I've been in uh in like ten
Speaker 5: cities and ten different time zones in the last fifteen days.
Speaker 5: So I'm always like up to this thing on any
Speaker 5: new jet lag remedy and the number one thing that
Speaker 5: I've found and I can't believe that I haven't tried
Speaker 5: it in so long. Remember the movie die Hard, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: where Bruce Willis is like your toes. Yeah, So if
Speaker 5: you do that on the carpet, and now if you
Speaker 5: google jetlag remedies, that's one of the top things that
Speaker 5: comes up. So I've tried melotonein, I've tried hydration, I
Speaker 5: tried hitting the gym, and I think for the first
Speaker 5: time in my life, at age forty three, I tried
Speaker 5: the fucking carpet thing and it works. It clears your head.
Speaker 5: It's clearly like some ACU pressure ship that's going on.
Speaker 5: But you know, well done, Bruce Willis and this old
Speaker 5: ass movie Wait, so.
Speaker 3: About how like so how long is your your your
Speaker 3: bear toe gripping on carpet session to begin to feel
Speaker 3: the effects, like how many how much work you have
Speaker 3: to put into this.
Speaker 5: I did like thirty seconds or forty five seconds. But
Speaker 5: there's a you know, when you're when you're jetlag, there's
Speaker 5: just like a mental haze around you. You're not any
Speaker 5: really anywhere, you're not present, right, and it just kind
Speaker 5: of clears the haze up. Wow, and then you can
Speaker 5: decide if you like where you're at, if not, just
Speaker 5: go back into the haze.
Speaker 1: I found it useful. Have you tried drinking caffeine until
Speaker 1: you hate yourself?
Speaker 5: Because that's oh, but that's that's every day, that's any time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, until you think everybody's talking about you.
Speaker 1: That's that's something that i've that's interesting. The fist with
Speaker 1: your toes has been something I think I've tried. It
Speaker 1: was that even what it was supposed to cure in Diehard,
Speaker 1: was it jet lag?
Speaker 5: I think it was. It was like get lag, and
Speaker 5: then you you're supposed to kind of cull your toes
Speaker 5: and rub them against the carpet again and again, which
Speaker 5: you know, if you're there's nothing like shitty hotel carpeting.
Speaker 5: You don't know if you're doting the coppet of the
Speaker 5: carpets doting.
Speaker 1: You when you do, and you know the movie told
Speaker 1: us what our reaction was going to be because Bruce
Speaker 1: Willis wasn't buying that ship. And then he does it,
Speaker 1: and then he goes fucking a fist with your toes. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also a movie, by the way, with the cheapest costume
Speaker 5: budget in the history of movies. I think he had
Speaker 5: no shres, had one pair of pants and a fucking
Speaker 5: vest on, like a wife pinto you call it a wife, beto,
Speaker 5: which is your only.
Speaker 3: No, we've yeah, we're as a country, we're moving, or
Speaker 3: at least we're trying to move back. We're just calling
Speaker 3: those white under tank tops than.
Speaker 1: The old w B Yeah, which, by the way, sounds
Speaker 1: like you were trying to come up with a name
Speaker 1: as you were saying it. White under tank top top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tank top. That's just four different words combined together. But yeah, great,
Speaker 1: But then they they had to save money on budget
Speaker 1: to put it all into some of the great blood work.
Speaker 1: You know those squibs shoot like exploding in that guy's legs.
Speaker 1: That blew my mind that that was a movie I
Speaker 1: saw entirely too young and completely changed my personality. I
Speaker 1: saw that when I was eight and you wanted to
Speaker 1: be smoking a cigarette and just being real cynical about everything.
Speaker 3: Shaved in a receding hairline, a little bit like exactly
Speaker 3: like my boy John McClean.
Speaker 1: Every every girlfriend I got, I was, I thought we
Speaker 1: were on the alts. I was complaining about.
Speaker 5: It's a movie that made you want to smoke. Ironically,
Speaker 5: I don't want to promote smoking, but it's one of
Speaker 5: those where you were like because I smoked for a
Speaker 5: long time for fifteen meals. Yeah, and like I remember
Speaker 5: that movie, and there was another movie called longst Good Night. Yeah,
Speaker 5: oh yes, We're just everybody smoked in every frame of movie,
Speaker 5: and it was impossible to watch it without smoking.
Speaker 3: I just remember there's that one scene or like we're
Speaker 3: just gonna aim and spray, and like when they got
Speaker 3: to get out of that hotel and like they fuck,
Speaker 3: I'm just like.
Speaker 5: Fucking run for your life.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you told me the entire noir film
Speaker 1: genre was like funded by the tobacco industry, like board
Speaker 1: that nothing looks more beautiful than cigarette smoking in noir films.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, even like The Broken Arrow, John Travolta's
Speaker 3: character smokes a cigarette in a really unique way, and
Speaker 3: that even like he liked.
Speaker 1: He put in his mouth.
Speaker 3: He yeah, and like really wrap his fingers around. And
Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I'm smoking my grandma's cigarette
Speaker 3: butts when I get home.
Speaker 5: Like it's right, the hand closing like scientology around an
Speaker 5: innocent person. Yeah, it's just kind of slowly eightening their
Speaker 5: grip until reality is.
Speaker 1: Gone with every subsequent e reading they do. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: French inhale that I think it's is it Delroy Lindo
Speaker 1: who does the French in haal in Dead Presidents? Like that?
Speaker 1: Now that you're mentioning it, it's like smoking in movies
Speaker 1: is like some of the most influential shit of my
Speaker 1: childhood is just like seeing that and being like that's
Speaker 1: how I'm going to smoke. Oh no, that's how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna right right exactly. So it's probably good that we
Speaker 1: don't do it anymore, but a glorious time. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Ice bots? I'm just gonna say it, like, because I'm
Speaker 5: in Austin right now. Every comedian doesn't need to do
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu and ice spots. It's it's not like just
Speaker 5: just write jokes that's all you need to do, right, Also,
Speaker 5: I don't know about you, but like I like my dick,
Speaker 5: and I like the size, and I have no interest
Speaker 5: in destroying it.
Speaker 1: Like we would shock it with temperature. Right there, you
Speaker 1: go can mean to it.
Speaker 5: Having said that, we have one point four billion people,
Speaker 5: so a couple of shopped Indian dicks is not such
Speaker 5: a bad idea, right, I'm just saying like shutting down
Speaker 5: a few of them. But like I tried my first
Speaker 5: ice bath last week and I was just like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm never doing this again.
Speaker 3: Did you get roped into it by some like jiu
Speaker 3: jitsu brained person who's like, you gotta try this?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: I did my first jiu jitsu thing as well. I'm
Speaker 5: learning the box from a movie, and the trainer was like,
Speaker 5: I also do jiu jitsu. Do you want to have
Speaker 5: a class? And I was like fine, And then like
Speaker 5: he lay down on top of me and like put
Speaker 5: me in like a hold, and he was like, now
Speaker 5: you have to get out, and it was it was
Speaker 5: like literally twenty seconds before I just went my god,
Speaker 5: it's fucking terrible. And then he was like okay, now
Speaker 5: you go lie down on top of me and hold
Speaker 5: me down, and uh, we'll do that, and he just
Speaker 5: flung me off like I was a fucking handkerchief, right right,
Speaker 5: And then we did a bunch of roles and I
Speaker 5: got nauseous, And I'm like, if the idea of this
Speaker 5: art film is to get your opponents scared that you're
Speaker 5: going to throw up on them, then I'm succeeding at
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu. But otherwise.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. They're like, Okay, you win, you win.
Speaker 1: I tack by, tack by. I feel like there's probably
Speaker 1: an evolutionary like part part of the reason we survived
Speaker 1: as long as we did, and like have this instinct
Speaker 1: to throw up when we're in danger. We being me,
Speaker 1: at least throw up ship myself.
Speaker 3: It's to gross out your attack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I probably to gross out the attacker. It
Speaker 1: has to be right, It's got to be there for
Speaker 1: a reason.
Speaker 3: Or is that like your version of like when an
Speaker 3: octopus like deploys the ink.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I throw out so much that they can't
Speaker 1: see they can't see me anymore.
Speaker 5: Here's the question about the real world application of jiu
Speaker 5: jitsu as well. Like what I always see is like
Speaker 5: some guy's in a hold and he's about to choke
Speaker 5: to death or his arm is about to break and
Speaker 5: that's when he taps and he lets the guy go.
Speaker 5: And now let's say you're on the street, somebody shows
Speaker 5: up and tries to mug you, and you're bad ass
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu person and you put the muggle in a hold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the muggle is not tapping, you know, so you
Speaker 3: just have to put him to sleep.
Speaker 5: But what if you can't put him to sleep? At
Speaker 5: some point, you just got a muggle with a broken hand,
Speaker 5: who's like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they just get so bored that they
Speaker 1: walk away, like just puke on me. Okay, let's call
Speaker 1: it a day.
Speaker 5: It's it's not like an attack and exit art for me.
Speaker 5: You're humping someone into submission. That's basically what jiu jitsu is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good for fights that start while your opponent
Speaker 1: is asleep to get.
Speaker 3: The just spoon him in bed and got your real
Speaker 3: naked choke tap or you'll go back to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think the only time. Yeah, like, if
Speaker 3: you can actually subdue someone with like a chokehold is
Speaker 3: probably the only thing that look a JITs mob on
Speaker 3: online come for me us somebody who used to regularly
Speaker 3: use my homebrew jiu jitsu in high school on kids
Speaker 3: because I was still in my agro phase as a teenager.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to tell that story, Miles? I
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, I know our listeners have heard it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't need to debase myself
Speaker 3: in front of a very accomplished comedian right now about
Speaker 3: how I choked someone out because they said they walked
Speaker 3: out of Anger Management in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll move past that. I've moved past that. You
Speaker 1: do have to if you're choking someone out, putting them
Speaker 1: to sleep, you do have to say in their ear,
Speaker 1: that's the cool thing to do. I do cry.
Speaker 5: If you believe the Internet, America's become a little like pity.
Speaker 5: You know, there's guys who are like fucking at the
Speaker 5: supermarket or like in a barking lot, or just like
Speaker 5: the on an airline, like looking for a fight and
Speaker 5: now know some sort of a martial art. So I
Speaker 5: always feel a little bit like intimidated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely like that group of like,
Speaker 3: you know, men who are trying to find some kind
Speaker 3: of meaning in like this very heteronormative sense and like
Speaker 3: the easiest ways to be like I'm going to learn how.
Speaker 1: To fucking kill people, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: rather than communicate things.
Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, that group is out there, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's I think it's just the general, you know, degradation
Speaker 3: of society that's leading to people being a little more
Speaker 3: fighty than normal because it's not.
Speaker 1: Like big part of the population. That makes me wish
Speaker 1: that martial arts had stayed unmixed personally, we didn't mix
Speaker 1: those bitches up. But yeah, there's it seems like every
Speaker 1: there there's always a chance that whoever you're mad at
Speaker 1: has been training in an MMA gym.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember being surprised too, like one of
Speaker 3: the first when I was like in college and I
Speaker 3: went to the UK, and I'm like, people up to
Speaker 3: scrap in the UK. But like in a different way,
Speaker 3: like Americans will get like it can get kind of
Speaker 3: fucking grim, whereas I'll see like fair one on one
Speaker 3: fights were like all right, lads, all right, now you've
Speaker 3: had enough. Now go off to the chippy because the
Speaker 3: pub just let out or whatever. But yeah, in America,
Speaker 3: it's definitely it's getting a little more intense for sure.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: I mean you get into a fight in the UK
Speaker 5: and they will like colonize your country for two hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty years. Doesn't fuck around, man, you know, take
Speaker 5: your resources, all of that shit.
Speaker 3: It's a almost wet some old white ladies on your
Speaker 3: money suddenly, Like what this isn't.
Speaker 1: The drunken like soccer fan brawl or discipline of martial arts.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what like Connor McGregor was good, like, wasn't
Speaker 1: Wasn't that basically his discipline that he grained in fight? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just was a good fist fighter. I was gonna
Speaker 1: sell thebaco.
Speaker 5: Also sounds like an Irish person who's doing a non
Speaker 5: Irish person's Irish accent? Do you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1: Right right? Like, yeah, that would be offensive if it
Speaker 1: wasn't real. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: Naps? So I found like an app called bizziz p
Speaker 5: z i z Z. I don't know the owner. It's
Speaker 5: just something I found randomly online. And it's like an
Speaker 5: app that talks you down into a nap and wakes
Speaker 5: you wait and you can choose. Yeah, so you can
Speaker 5: choose a nap anywhere between ten minutes and like ninety
Speaker 5: minutes for power napping, right, and then they have different
Speaker 5: voices and this voice just kind of goes and now
Speaker 5: go to sleep, and it keeps you if it keeps
Speaker 5: you under, and then while you're under sets school shit.
Speaker 5: It's like life's good, things will be all right, shit
Speaker 5: works out, et cetera, et cetera, and then wakes you
Speaker 5: up from your nap as well. And so like if
Speaker 5: I have a gig or something like a ten minute
Speaker 5: power nap feels as good as like, you know, five
Speaker 5: hours of sleep.
Speaker 3: Wa wait, so what is the what is like the
Speaker 3: dialogue for the wake up section? Is it like gentle
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 5: It's show file Firefire. No, it's it's uh And now
Speaker 5: I want you to gently start moving your toes and
Speaker 5: come back and remember everything we talked about and life's good.
Speaker 5: And there's like a male voice and a female voice
Speaker 5: as well, and you can choose like the voice to music.
Speaker 1: That's kind of cool. It's also good marketing because the
Speaker 1: name is perfect for catching people who are trying to
Speaker 1: order pizza and are just incredibly drunk. Yeah, because I guess.
Speaker 5: Favoritthing to do back when there were no cell phones.
Speaker 5: When we hated someone in college I went to college
Speaker 5: in like Gailsburg, Illinois, was just to order a pizza
Speaker 5: from every pizza joint in town to the guy we
Speaker 5: hated and just have like ten pizza guys who are
Speaker 5: at his fucking dorm room with ten pizzas Like that was.
Speaker 3: A great American pastime, Yes, one of the best. Now
Speaker 3: with the apps, you can barely do that anymore.
Speaker 1: No things we've lost. All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and we'll get into some news, and
Speaker 1: we're back. And so there's some reporting going around about
Speaker 1: like Ron DeSantis' big donors are starting to worry. They're
Speaker 1: starting to like kind of check their watch and stir
Speaker 1: about anxiously because it feels like he's the polling wasn't
Speaker 1: good when it came out, and it's getting worse because
Speaker 1: he's just like not doing anything. He's like he's doing
Speaker 1: what I do in a fistfight, which is play dead.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's just sitting there and talking about
Speaker 1: so trying to change the subject. Have you ever tried
Speaker 1: to when someone's fighting, you try to change the subjects?
Speaker 3: Fuck you up, man, when do you think the chances
Speaker 3: are of Arsenal winning a Premier League title this year?
Speaker 1: It's been a few years.
Speaker 5: Like what, by the way, you know what's going to
Speaker 5: happen with this American news, right I'm going to ask basic,
Speaker 5: ask questions as an Indian person, please, and you will
Speaker 5: feel like I feel when I meet Americans and they
Speaker 5: ask me questions about India.
Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: And I think that's really I think that's why you're
Speaker 3: a perfect guest, because you know so much of your
Speaker 3: materials about looking at the sort of the absurdities of
Speaker 3: your society, your culture, and we can't pick a more
Speaker 3: absurd one than in the United States right now and
Speaker 3: in the year of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: But I feel like you guys are hard on yourselves.
Speaker 5: Everybody's going through something or the other. But okay, So
Speaker 5: to make it basic, Ron DeSantis is the guy who's
Speaker 5: gonna maybe take Donald Trump's place.
Speaker 3: Potentially it would be the it would be the presidential
Speaker 3: candidate who could run against Joe Biden in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: assuming Joe Biden is also the candidate for the Democratic
Speaker 3: Party and.
Speaker 5: Still and knows that it's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, right. Oh, he doesn't know it's twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: so that we were beyond that as a requirement. That
Speaker 1: man tinkes it's nineteen sixty seven and he's cruising in
Speaker 1: his vet. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: And this man is as charismatic as Trump.
Speaker 1: No he's he's not. So he is. We've been talking
Speaker 1: about this for a while because he's been like the
Speaker 1: great hope of the mainstream media and the people who
Speaker 1: were you know, who wanted Jed Bush or Jeb Bush
Speaker 1: before Trump, like you know, they were the people who
Speaker 1: discounted Trump, who were Republicans, like this is their hope.
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, enough with the Trump silliness. We
Speaker 1: have this other great candidate. We're going to move on.
Speaker 1: And it's just like twenty sixteen all over again, or
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I guess the Republican primaries where it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, nobody wants to vote for this motherfucker.
Speaker 5: Right, But then that's the test that Republicans had, right,
Speaker 5: because if you're a Republican now you're really being asked
Speaker 5: the question you'll vote is it based on actual ideology
Speaker 5: or just on fandom, you know, because maybe you voted
Speaker 5: for Trump for fandom, but now if Rond de Santis
Speaker 5: comes in, like that's the actual test of how much
Speaker 5: you believe in your ideology.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but unfortunately, like it's gonna it's basically like Marvel,
Speaker 3: like the MCU. Now it's all about fandoms. There's nothing
Speaker 3: about policy. It's like, oh, this guy's kind of like
Speaker 3: Fanos almost, but like and he's gonna own the Libs
Speaker 3: with how powerful and like, you know, how regressive he is.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like with Rond DeSantis, he's really trying to
Speaker 3: differentiate himself by trying to run to the right of
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, which is what worries some of these donors
Speaker 3: because Ronda Santis has been very enthusiastic about how he's
Speaker 3: just gonna just completely knee cap abortion in Florida. The
Speaker 3: state legislature they just passed a bill that would ban
Speaker 3: abortion after six six weeks, when most people don't even
Speaker 3: know they're pregnant. And DeSantis is like, I'm signing that shit. Okay,
Speaker 3: watch this because I'm actually about overturning Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade.
Speaker 3: Okay, And again he's trying to court this very hyper
Speaker 3: conservative audience. Going into the primary. But a lot of
Speaker 3: people who are just onlookers are just sort of saying
Speaker 3: this like abortion thing with conservatives. It is one of
Speaker 3: the most consistently losing messages in recent memory. Like it's
Speaker 3: it's been lost after loss with these candidates who like
Speaker 3: evoke their like I'm anti choice, and most people with
Speaker 3: you know, value body autonomy or like yeah, no that
Speaker 3: I'm gonna move on from that, which is.
Speaker 1: Most people like that. Most people do value the body autonomy,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's such a political loser.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even think it's you know, sometimes when
Speaker 5: i'm when I see regressive policies just sort of worldwide.
Speaker 5: You know, something I tell myself is everybody who's upset
Speaker 5: at you is going to be dead in ten years.
Speaker 5: Whenever I'm in trouble, right right, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 5: like on your last day of work, that's when you
Speaker 5: take a shit in your boss's office and walk up, right.
Speaker 5: Of course, I feel for this generation of politicians and leaders,
Speaker 5: they've just figured this is their last day at work.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, you know, in the boss, except they are
Speaker 5: the boss and they're taking a ship in each of
Speaker 5: our cubicles as they go, they're not going to be
Speaker 5: around the right right.
Speaker 1: That's an important part.
Speaker 3: And like, meanwhile, too, this is kind of like Republicans
Speaker 3: across the country are really doubling down on the abortion
Speaker 3: issue with like the worst possible takes. Like last week
Speaker 3: we brought up Tim Scott, who's running for president. He
Speaker 3: evoked like he's been evoking replacement theory as a reason
Speaker 3: to end abortion, which is something we've also seen in Nebraska.
Speaker 3: We also got another really healthy helping of the racist,
Speaker 3: anti semitic trope from state Senator Steve Erdman, who looks
Speaker 3: like the kind of guy that has never spoken to
Speaker 3: a woman outside of giving a directive. But I just
Speaker 3: want to say, like, we'll just play his his fear
Speaker 3: mongering around. This is this is the problem when we
Speaker 3: give people body autonomy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have killed two thousand babies since abortion
Speaker 2: became legal.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, he means two hundred thousand. He
Speaker 3: meant to edit that, but he's gonna keep saying two
Speaker 3: thousand because he doesn't. He doesn't even have this monologue memorized.
Speaker 2: Okay, those are two thousand people in the state of
Speaker 2: Nebraska that could be working and filling some of those
Speaker 2: positions and we have vacancies, they're not here. Instead, our
Speaker 2: state population has not grown except by those foreigners who
Speaker 2: have moved here or refugees have been placed here.
Speaker 1: Why is that.
Speaker 2: It's because we've killed two hundred thousand people. These are
Speaker 2: people we've killed.
Speaker 3: So there's that's that's phase one of that take of
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, so you know, I hate to
Speaker 3: say it, but it's these brown people that are moving
Speaker 3: in that are replacing the little white babies that I'm
Speaker 3: talking about in Nebraska. But again, he's just he's relying
Speaker 3: on this very racist trope that we've seen from Charlottesville
Speaker 3: and many other places when you hear like they will
Speaker 3: not replace us type of shit.
Speaker 5: Is that what you think the abortion thing is driven by,
Speaker 5: is that we need to have enough of a white
Speaker 5: population going out there. Is that what you think it is?
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the things they're trying. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, like that that's one of the arguments they're
Speaker 1: testing out. I think a lot of it is about
Speaker 1: wanting to control women and not like having a patriarchal
Speaker 1: society that is like down to bodily autonomy. But it
Speaker 1: is it is something that like very wealthy industrialists like
Speaker 1: talk about in private about this idea of like are
Speaker 1: there enough babies? And are there enough white babies? And
Speaker 1: what does that mean to the racial makeup of the country?
Speaker 5: So or is there enough revenue for this big industry
Speaker 5: that is babies, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do we have enough customers in general?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But yeah, it is. It's something too.
Speaker 3: That again, what by evoking or invoking the replacement theory
Speaker 3: you the ears up of like ethno nationalists, white supremacists,
Speaker 3: and also evangelicals who are like, oh yeah, good abortion
Speaker 3: and yes, more white people. I like that too because
Speaker 3: I fear a brown America And so yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: one take. His colleague John Lowe decided he was going
Speaker 3: to use for his rhetorical attack. He was going to
Speaker 3: read from a spooky book of ghost stories to really
Speaker 3: bring the point home about how abortion is just so
Speaker 3: very bad. Here's him again, Be careful is a very
Speaker 3: spooky ghost story he's about to tell.
Speaker 7: With a brand new baby in a womb, marrying her
Speaker 7: new baby in her womb, she approaches Elizabeth and John
Speaker 7: is in Elizabeth's womb, and the Holy Spirit is communicated
Speaker 7: in some miraculous, incredible way. From the womb of the
Speaker 7: Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ himself to the womb of Elizabeth,
Speaker 7: John the Baptist and John leapt And that is why
Speaker 7: abortion is clearly evil.
Speaker 1: Boom laugh track. They're laughing, yo.
Speaker 7: And that is why abortion is clearly evil.
Speaker 5: Take you to peat it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you needed another bite of that punchline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said that is wow. I mean, see
Speaker 1: somebody behind him the camera like it's it's worth looking
Speaker 1: at because there's somebody behind him, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're from the media, but they just like when
Speaker 1: they realize what he's doing, they just like face Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like when he's like, wait, hold on, what
Speaker 3: he's like texting his wife, He's like, you're not gonna
Speaker 3: leave what this fucking guy just said?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have paved somebody five thousand dollars to
Speaker 5: just scream Jesus is brown.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah exactly. Are you sure about that?
Speaker 1: Are you sure you want to make sure about that's?
Speaker 1: Want to tell no seriously? And again I mean, but hey,
Speaker 1: you hear that. Libs.
Speaker 3: Two ladies touched bellies and the one lady's ghost baby
Speaker 3: made the other baby move. So check made assholes. Abortion
Speaker 3: is evil, Like, huh, really.
Speaker 5: Think about your ideological battle in America that I find
Speaker 5: hilarious as a liberal my sure, right and somebody who's
Speaker 5: quite left it. Why would you have so much loathing
Speaker 5: for people who already have so much self loathing like this,
Speaker 5: nobody hates on themselves more than the average liberal. You know,
Speaker 5: we're just like a part of anxiety and self loading,
Speaker 5: Like we're hating ourselves enough for all of you.
Speaker 3: You don't need to do it, No, truly, it's it's
Speaker 3: I mean again, this is like, this is this is
Speaker 3: your brain on anti choice rhetoric, folks, you know the
Speaker 3: people you know, the like left to make a compelling
Speaker 3: case in some of these state houses have the charisma
Speaker 3: of an evil high school principle from an eighties movie.
Speaker 3: And I think while most people are thinking, why the
Speaker 3: fuck are they doing this when it's clear they've been
Speaker 3: losing election after election and like once were they thought
Speaker 3: they were going to change this like State Supreme Court Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: like over this issue, Like, we have to realize that
Speaker 3: people are getting right now in primary mode and they
Speaker 3: just want to make their case to the base first,
Speaker 3: even if it alienates I don't know, seventy percent of
Speaker 3: the country when they hear it. And the overall strategy,
Speaker 3: especially in Rohnda Santis's case, as this one political science
Speaker 3: professor Jack Bitney puts it, is he is betting on disaster.
Speaker 3: That is really what's going on too. Like the reason
Speaker 3: they're they're still stoking this fire is because they are
Speaker 3: hoping for some kind of terrible recession or foreign policy
Speaker 3: blunder disaster to help swing the focus off of the
Speaker 3: you know, you know, regression or the restricting of body
Speaker 3: a tanimir you know, our own reproductive rights.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's do you also feel like maybe you know,
Speaker 5: you need some fire to stoke, right at the end
Speaker 5: of the day in a in a politically charged year,
Speaker 5: and maybe the problem or the development of America as
Speaker 5: you look at it, is that you're not able to
Speaker 5: stoke a religious file for whatever reason, because because you've
Speaker 5: kind of moved beyond that right and in many countries
Speaker 5: in the world, that's the basis of an election is
Speaker 5: basic religious polarization. This religion against that religion, right, and
Speaker 5: you don't get to do that anymore. So really all
Speaker 5: you have is abortion and guns, which kind of feels
Speaker 5: similar to religions right in modern America.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a fantastic point.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean the way that we do, like
Speaker 3: look at it quite literally probably worship gun culture and
Speaker 3: things like that. It is the way and the way
Speaker 3: it's evoked too. You know, like people even say that,
Speaker 3: you know, Jesus even is sanctioning weapons. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know this in a very charitable interpretation for
Speaker 3: their own means. But again, like even when they think
Speaker 3: of like let's hope there's COVID twenty three or something
Speaker 3: that is going to completely change the conversation. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, abortion is a fundamental right and so one
Speaker 3: that probably becomes even more important if there's economic uncertainty.
Speaker 3: Like even if praying for a recession, I think people
Speaker 3: even be more concerned with, Oh, if with my financial
Speaker 3: outlook being a certain way, it's probably even more important
Speaker 3: to me to be able to decide when I'm having
Speaker 3: a family or I don't think people are like or
Speaker 3: the idea that you know, if they have this take
Speaker 3: of like Joe Biden is gonna make America look weak
Speaker 3: to our enemies. I don't think suddenly your concerns about
Speaker 3: body autonomy go out the window. So it's a very
Speaker 3: It's just it's just this weird issue that they's they
Speaker 3: keep holding on to. But it makes more sense if
Speaker 3: you consider that. It's like I think they're just hoping
Speaker 3: another issue comes up because they don't they'd rather make
Speaker 3: an election be like, look at how bad Joe Biden
Speaker 3: messed up the economy than them having to defend here's
Speaker 3: why we believe you shouldn't have any reproductive rights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do get nervous every time the
Speaker 1: Republicans are banking on a disaster because they have a
Speaker 1: way of like, you know, the story of Nixon and
Speaker 1: Kissinger prolong the Vietnam War, Like they Nixon was running
Speaker 1: for president against Johnson's vice president. Johnson was about to
Speaker 1: like have a peace treaty, and they actively like went
Speaker 1: to Vietnam and sabotaged the peace treaty more like it's
Speaker 1: actually not gonna be a good deal. We'll get you
Speaker 1: a better deal and we're gonna win. Like is one
Speaker 1: of the most profound acts of evil that I feel
Speaker 1: like probably got a little memory hold because it didn't
Speaker 1: come out until like decades after. I think it was
Speaker 1: like the sort of shit that like people at the
Speaker 1: time were like Nixon, so evil who probably did that,
Speaker 1: but like he did do that, he did that shit, right,
Speaker 1: But like they they will sabotage, They will cause the
Speaker 1: death of tens of thousands of Americans in order to
Speaker 1: get power. So anytime the Republicans are like betting on disaster,
Speaker 1: I'm always a little bit worried, especially when it ties
Speaker 1: to the economy, which is a complex system driven by Republicans,
Speaker 1: a bunch of rich people who are Republicans that like.
Speaker 3: And they could be the arkanact of in default too,
Speaker 3: you know what I meantruction.
Speaker 5: I think also if you consider that especially elections, like
Speaker 5: I have a friend who's a politician, and he says,
Speaker 5: you know, the big mistake that people make is you
Speaker 5: think that people take a long time to make a
Speaker 5: decision about who they vote for. But if you're a politician,
Speaker 5: you understand that you have twenty seconds of a person's time.
Speaker 5: It's a twenty second decision, and that any sort of
Speaker 5: big election issue that really warrants introspection is a complex,
Speaker 5: nuanced issue. Right, So what did Biden do to the economy, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 5: You got to go into that. But the reason they
Speaker 5: keep repeating the greatest hits because the greatest hits represent
Speaker 5: the minimum amount of words. It's literally grammar in election community,
Speaker 5: low taxes, pro guns, pro choice. You know, they're just
Speaker 5: very easy to drive decisions. And so it's kind of
Speaker 5: disheartening to think about these gigantic issues just being boiled
Speaker 5: down to economy of woods. Yeah, for communication, for reaching people,
Speaker 5: but economy of woods gives you your father's reach. It's
Speaker 5: actually a lot more simple than we think it is, right,
Speaker 5: And it's.
Speaker 3: Just like, yeah, the term like thought killing cliche is
Speaker 3: also the other thing that's used. It's like just once
Speaker 3: you hear that, it'll end any kind of further thought.
Speaker 3: Once you hear a certain talking.
Speaker 5: Less immigrants, more guns, now what taxes, you just understand shit.
Speaker 5: And so you have to keep the greatest hits in
Speaker 5: their current form. So you have to keep talking about emotion, save.
Speaker 3: Babies despite Yeah, And it's like so funny too, because
Speaker 3: like even after the last election, Republicans are like, we lost,
Speaker 3: we got to do something about getting more suburban women,
Speaker 3: and we got it.
Speaker 1: We got it.
Speaker 3: Spooky ghost stories about how baby Jesus got John the
Speaker 3: Baptist to kick his mommy's tummy gave.
Speaker 1: Him a forced ghost high five through his mother's belly
Speaker 1: and they did a flip.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and that's why you shouldn't make be able
Speaker 3: to have any decision making ability over your own body.
Speaker 1: Okay, both for us. Well, we have a new segment
Speaker 1: on this show. It's called Woke Alerts because no, it's
Speaker 1: just a like some political action committee, Consumers Research is
Speaker 1: providing woke alerts to notify you when your favorite company
Speaker 1: get goes to woke. I mean it's I feel like
Speaker 1: we're seeing it with like the bud Light thing. I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: They they said to woke alert out for Blackrock. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: really woke Wall Street. Yeah yeah, they always charge that
Speaker 3: woke Wall Street. But I mean this seems like, to
Speaker 3: be honest, it's easy to make fun of. It seems
Speaker 3: like a winning strategy to me because corporations are like
Speaker 3: very skittish, and you can control what a corporation thinks
Speaker 3: is happening with a mailing campaign or you know, getting
Speaker 3: twenty people to just send a bunch of angry emails
Speaker 3: to a corporate you know, like they they're not they
Speaker 3: they're not like they don't have morals. They all they
Speaker 3: have is like they're doing their best to see what
Speaker 3: they think is making people happy, and everyone is afraid
Speaker 3: of being fired and line go up. If mine go up,
Speaker 3: then we're good. Make sure the line goes up, though, please.
Speaker 1: It's Consumer's Research is basically a lobbying firm under the
Speaker 1: guise of a consumer watchdog. It's funded by dark money.
Speaker 1: They recently made the news for their effort to prevent
Speaker 1: Wall Street from factor and climate change into investment decisions.
Speaker 1: And it's they're just like launching a huge campaign to
Speaker 1: anything environmental social progress. They're going to be there to
Speaker 1: claim that it is woke, but like some of the
Speaker 1: stuff seems like confusing, Like it seems like they're like
Speaker 1: they freaked out when the American airlines like reduced leg
Speaker 1: room on flights, which I guess that's woke they're they're claiming.
Speaker 5: I mean, do they even define what woke is?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, And again, anyone define what.
Speaker 1: Isn't nobody can. There's an author who just published a
Speaker 1: book about like how woke brain disease is killing our
Speaker 1: children and went on a TV show and they were like,
Speaker 1: so just define woke for us, because this is confusing
Speaker 1: to talk about this without having a clear definition, and
Speaker 1: she had no clue. She was just like the bad Well,
Speaker 1: see what you just you just wrote a book about it.
Speaker 3: It's the old Actually, let me find that clip because
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty fantastic.
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 3: Would you mind defining well, because it's come up a
Speaker 3: couple of times and I just want to make sure
Speaker 3: we're on the same page.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, woke is sort of the idea that
Speaker 6: this is going to be one of those moments that
Speaker 6: goes viral. I mean, well is something that's very hard
Speaker 6: to define, and we've spent it in entire chapter defining it.
Speaker 6: It is sort of the understanding that we need to retotal,
Speaker 6: totally re imagine and reduce society in order to create
Speaker 6: hierarchies of oppression. Sorry, it's hard to explain in a
Speaker 6: fifteen seconds sound bite.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: Just again a thought killing cliche hold for them too.
Speaker 1: Oh, woke bad?
Speaker 3: That's bad, American airlines woke bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that a better answer. Oh yeah, welk is bad.
Speaker 5: Is it really an election stance like anti woke? Because
Speaker 5: I remember seeing a couple of candidates that you guys
Speaker 5: had with like I'm going to get rid of the woke, etcetera.
Speaker 5: And yeah, like, Okay, I went to college in Gilsburg, Illinois,
Speaker 5: and so this is this is America, America, right, It's
Speaker 5: not New York America. It's not. And every bit of
Speaker 5: American pop culture I've ever seen tends to ship on
Speaker 5: the Gailsburg, Illinois in the middle of the countries, you know,
Speaker 5: as if they're ignorant or but these are just very
Speaker 5: hard working, very decent people want to be their build
Speaker 5: and watch The Bachelor and go to bed at night, right,
Speaker 5: and and and I think if even if they were Republican,
Speaker 5: you went up to them and you're like, I'm anti woke,
Speaker 5: they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 5: You know, get the fuck off my phone, or get
Speaker 5: the fuck out of my cafeteria, you know. So is
Speaker 5: it really?
Speaker 1: I think what it's done? Is it?
Speaker 3: From my perspective, they have perfectly encapsulated the feeling of
Speaker 3: like white hegemony or like cis head hegemony, and the
Speaker 3: creeping influence of people that want more inclusive language, that
Speaker 3: want more more inclusive society, and so those things because
Speaker 3: to them, they're saying Oh, I gotta feel bad because
Speaker 3: now I got to use people's pronouns. People have preferred pronouns.
Speaker 1: That's woke.
Speaker 3: Oh I have to now I can't. I like, I'm
Speaker 3: We're supposed to teach of like a good faith interpretation
Speaker 3: of American history to kids so they understand this, that's woke.
Speaker 3: So anything that upsets that balance or suddenly puts these
Speaker 3: people in a position they're like, oh, I got to
Speaker 3: feel bad about this, or I have to change the
Speaker 3: way I've been interacting with other people. That's how they
Speaker 3: just sort of deploy that word as a sort of
Speaker 3: the discomfort around any kind of progress that's occurring. And
Speaker 3: I guess it's become basically.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even what you define this progress, it's
Speaker 5: it's rewiring. Anything that requires rewired, Yes, would be easily
Speaker 5: determined as being allegedly buke.
Speaker 1: Let's leg room on an American Airlines flight. That's rewiring,
Speaker 1: my posture. But I think you're making a really good
Speaker 1: point that they by being the ones who focus on
Speaker 1: woke like, they are the ones who keep bringing this
Speaker 1: ship up over and over again. And we saw it
Speaker 1: in the last midterm elections that like people, you know,
Speaker 1: they're the ones who are talking about you know, trans
Speaker 1: people and like top surgery and you know, all all
Speaker 1: these different things that people who live in Illinois, like
Speaker 1: where you went to college, might not care that much about.
Speaker 1: But they are like that becomes their talking point and
Speaker 1: like they own it and they're the ones who are
Speaker 1: like talking about it. And I feel like it's also
Speaker 1: a losing political strategy, but it's one that gets a
Speaker 1: lot of attention, and so they they're able to kind
Speaker 1: of profit off of it.
Speaker 5: I think it tracks because you have such a large
Speaker 5: liberal media that picks it up as well, right on
Speaker 5: both sides at tracks. But but I do think like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I had host parents, and my host parents, one of
Speaker 5: them was a cafeteria lady and one of them was
Speaker 5: a truckle, right, And I mean, to them, the fact
Speaker 5: that I was an Indian tespion was as alien as
Speaker 5: the fact that you know that somebody was woke, et cetera,
Speaker 5: et cetera. But I eventually say, if you went up
Speaker 5: to either of those people and you were like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, you got to use people's pronouns now, you know,
Speaker 5: et cetera, they'd be like, I'll call you a bottle
Speaker 5: of apple sauce if you want me to call you
Speaker 5: that shit if my taxes go down, you know, or
Speaker 5: if my life is made easier. And to take sort
Speaker 5: of their narrative and make it about these things is
Speaker 5: almost to disregard their real narrative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because I mean on this level, they've
Speaker 3: the GOP especially has completely abandoned any kind of policy.
Speaker 3: There's nothing Everything they evoke has nothing to do with
Speaker 3: substantive policy. It's about these culture war grievances because they
Speaker 3: feel that I think they saw that that's energizing people
Speaker 3: more so in like a rallies type situation where people
Speaker 3: are coming out and they've seen like school like these
Speaker 3: school board meetings go up with a lot of people
Speaker 3: like I don't want my kids knowing about like slavery
Speaker 3: in this country or whatever. And I think they're very
Speaker 3: short sightedly being like, okay, that bottle that While in
Speaker 3: the meantime, to your point, the very real situation of
Speaker 3: living in the United States is also a force that
Speaker 3: acts on everyone, and they're everybody is having to face
Speaker 3: inflation or unaffordable housing, or wage stagnation and limited options
Speaker 3: for medical care. But because all of their things aren't
Speaker 3: really going to the heart of correcting those things. It's
Speaker 3: much easier just go straight to oh my god, remember
Speaker 3: when you used to be able to just say, like,
Speaker 3: just use slurs against gay people in public, and it
Speaker 3: wasn't you didn't get canceled and like that. To them,
Speaker 3: it feels like, Okay, that's a better place to just
Speaker 3: operate from because we're not going to have a substantive
Speaker 3: policy debate right now because we've completely just normalized this
Speaker 3: sort of like culture war grievance thing as being the
Speaker 3: way we talk about politics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both sides are focused on distracting people from the
Speaker 1: core thing that they actually care about, which is like
Speaker 1: their material well being. And you know, both sides would
Speaker 1: rather not have corporations economic health matter more than their
Speaker 1: physical health. But that is the world that both sides
Speaker 1: actually want to keep in place, and so they generate
Speaker 1: a bunch of noise to distract people. Hopefully that is
Speaker 1: their goal.
Speaker 5: But I also think that it's a very interesting time
Speaker 5: for your country. And I say this respectfully, but you know,
Speaker 5: I think America is getting used to the fact that
Speaker 5: what used to be one seat at the table is
Speaker 5: now many seats at the table, you know, at least
Speaker 5: the global table. It's a different world we live in
Speaker 5: right now. Everybody's voice is equally amplified. But like I
Speaker 5: remember going to college in America in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 5: right in two thousand and two thousand and one, so
Speaker 5: just spit on nine to eleven. I feel like it
Speaker 5: didn't really matter who the president was at that moment
Speaker 5: in time in America, or at least it mattered less
Speaker 5: because you were so far ahead of the global pack,
Speaker 5: you know, and there wasn't this big culture conversation, and
Speaker 5: everybody's voices weren't amplified. Your system had been so set
Speaker 5: that it really mattered very little who the president was,
Speaker 5: and whether you were Republican or Democrat. You were gonna
Speaker 5: be okay no matter who the president was. And I
Speaker 5: feel like that's somehow changed now and now it really
Speaker 5: matters ideologically who the president is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think part of that too is just we've gone
Speaker 3: from I think there's gradual and a gradual increase in
Speaker 3: people actually trying to understand civics in this country now
Speaker 3: because I think a lot for the longest time, it
Speaker 3: didn't matter, and like the boom years of the nineties
Speaker 3: for many people, but there are plenty communities that began
Speaker 3: to stagnate, and those were sort of like niche things
Speaker 3: that you would have to be really tapped into, like
Speaker 3: American culture, to really care about. And now is like,
Speaker 3: I think the degradation of like our infrastructure and all
Speaker 3: these things are becoming more widespread and felt people are
Speaker 3: beginning to understand more. It's like, oh wait, what are
Speaker 3: these policies again?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Right, before it used to be like, yeah, you care
Speaker 3: about babies, but abortion was never under threat, but then
Speaker 3: now it is, and suddenly it's like, well, hold on now,
Speaker 3: like that that actually fucking matters to me.
Speaker 1: And so I think it's.
Speaker 3: Part and parcel of just how how difficult life is
Speaker 3: becoming for people, and also having to inform yourself of
Speaker 3: like you can't just be passive. But along what goes
Speaker 3: alongside of that is you have all these media apparatuses
Speaker 3: that are just there to get your attention and maybe
Speaker 3: say like, yeah, I know it could be about this,
Speaker 3: but let's talk about this other issue rather than you know,
Speaker 3: do we live in a corporatetocracy with that are run
Speaker 3: by a bunch of plutocrats? And is that something we
Speaker 3: need to be concerned about. It's easier to say the
Speaker 3: Republicans won't do anything about guns, and you know, the
Speaker 3: Republicans just go the Democrats are woke when I think
Speaker 3: all people would rather say I would like to make
Speaker 3: more money at my job, I would like to afford
Speaker 3: a house. I don't want to go into crippling debt
Speaker 3: because I want an education. Yeah, Like, take take those
Speaker 3: points and make those real for me. Everything else is
Speaker 3: just to avoid the real reconciliation or the real reckoning
Speaker 3: that has to occur in this country, because that's I
Speaker 3: think one of our greatest strengths as a culture is
Speaker 3: their ability to avoid a reckoning with a lot of
Speaker 3: the shit that's been going on and just kind of
Speaker 3: paper over the cracks until I don't know, it becomes
Speaker 3: completely untenable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, I really think your election comes down to
Speaker 5: like a twenty minute debate. Like it's very entertaining, but
Speaker 5: it really it will. That's the American election. It's that
Speaker 5: twenty minute debate. I think you you win and lose
Speaker 5: in that debate. It's it's really it's it's like watching gladiators.
Speaker 5: It really is watching collection.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and that's the difference between potentially another global
Speaker 3: military conflict is because one guy made fun of one
Speaker 3: old white guy made fun of the other old white
Speaker 3: guy on a stage, and people are like, yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: that's it. He owned him, own owned him. Oh then poned.
Speaker 3: Wait what I'm being conscripted?
Speaker 1: And who knows if there's even anybody still making up
Speaker 1: their mind at this point, who's still making up their
Speaker 1: mind about Donald Trump and Joe Biden? Like what is
Speaker 1: it even twenty minutes? Like what would it take for
Speaker 1: anybody to feel like, Wait, Donald Trump is running for president?
Speaker 3: This guy, all right, whereas let me see where he's
Speaker 3: at on the issues and then I'll get back to you.
Speaker 8: Right, all right, Let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 8: be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And I do just want to talk about and vere
Speaker 1: get your kind of perspective on guns, because we talk
Speaker 1: a lot about it, the fact that the presence of guns,
Speaker 1: the fact that gun sales shot through the roof, that
Speaker 1: that pun was unintended, but there are probably plenty of
Speaker 1: guns inadvertently shooting through the roof because so many there
Speaker 1: are so many new gun owners in the United States now,
Speaker 1: because the gun industry is very successful at turning the
Speaker 1: anxiety that we were just talking about into sales. And
Speaker 1: so there's a news story that came out at the
Speaker 1: end last week that after the mass shooting that happened
Speaker 1: on Monday in Kentucky, the actual gun used in that
Speaker 1: mass shooting was sold at auction to a licensed dealer.
Speaker 1: And this is the like that that's the system in
Speaker 1: many US states, Like many US states have a law
Speaker 1: that says the police can't keep guns, like once they
Speaker 1: confiscate a gun, they have to get it back on
Speaker 1: the street. Washington State where police are allowed to decide
Speaker 1: whether or not to sell guns, that have sold dozens
Speaker 1: of AR fifteens, AK forty sevens and other assault weapons,
Speaker 1: and like said, some of these weapons are then like
Speaker 1: used to shoot police, Like so that this is actually
Speaker 1: the rare conservative policy, like gun policy where the police
Speaker 1: are actually like, we would prefer that this wasn't the
Speaker 1: case because these guns keep shooting our officers after we
Speaker 1: put them back out there. But the gun lobby and
Speaker 1: everything makes it so that like you just can't.
Speaker 3: Well, they made it. They made it in Kategy. It's
Speaker 3: just a law that you can't destroy it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? That's it's just because it's the law
Speaker 3: that you can't destroy it, because like you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't destroy the gun, you gotta sell it. It's like
Speaker 1: burning a bible, you know, like it is a religious thing.
Speaker 1: You can't destroy a gun. That's the most sacred thing
Speaker 1: in the United States.
Speaker 3: Check the drawer of the nightstand in your hotel room.
Speaker 1: Is there a gun. There's a place there by the gideons.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, and again speaking from an
Speaker 5: outsider's perspective and speaking from a largely very non violent country. Historically,
Speaker 5: even our our independence movement was was non violent, you know.
Speaker 5: So I think it's pure economics. I think that, you know,
Speaker 5: weapons of mass destruction always come with like contracts of
Speaker 5: mass production, and people forget that, you know. And I
Speaker 5: think the greatest con narratively that has ever been pulled
Speaker 5: by the gun industry is that to preserve guns is
Speaker 5: somehow a preservation of American voice, or a preservation of
Speaker 5: American culture, or a preservation of American values. And that's
Speaker 5: actually not the case. Because if if a preservation of
Speaker 5: guns is a preservation of American values, then from the
Speaker 5: same timing, a present of segregation is also a preservation
Speaker 5: of American values and a preservation of other things. So
Speaker 5: if you're not preserving those things, you don't have to
Speaker 5: preserve guns either. If you can evolve from segregation, you
Speaker 5: can evolve from guns. But this narrative that they've put in,
Speaker 5: which is to preserve guns is to preserve America, is
Speaker 5: just gigantically reinforced. Oh yeah, and I don't think it
Speaker 5: changes unless the average American doesn't feel like a gun
Speaker 5: makes them American. That's what it needs to change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like because on one side you have people
Speaker 3: that are so just scared around that, like they're like,
Speaker 3: I just need a gun because I don't know what
Speaker 3: could happen, what could happen in my neighborhood. And then
Speaker 3: you do have those people like it's my right to
Speaker 3: own this anti aircraft gun because of the Second Amendment,
Speaker 3: which is part of our Constitution. I know some libs
Speaker 3: will call it a spooky post it note signed by
Speaker 3: racists from two hundred and fifty years whatever years ago,
Speaker 3: but that's our right. And yet to your point, it's
Speaker 3: like it's the Constitution is one of the biggest things
Speaker 3: that people will evoke in terms of like the rhetoric
Speaker 3: of it is like, because that's our document and we
Speaker 3: can't just tear that up, even though we've had to
Speaker 3: amend it a few times, right, and yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: become a very intoxicating argument and to the point where
Speaker 3: like we're only seeing the absurdity of it become more
Speaker 3: and more in our face. Now when you have governors
Speaker 3: say like, my friend was shot in that mass shooting
Speaker 3: and then say nothing about gun control after, and then.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, that's hands in pockets right at
Speaker 5: the end of the day. But I do think from
Speaker 5: a complete outsider's perspective, it's not the gun that makes
Speaker 5: you American. It's what happens after the gun that makes
Speaker 5: you American. That's why people come to your country.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: The fact that you can dial nine one one and
Speaker 5: a couple will be then thirty seconds, and that you
Speaker 5: will drive to the hospital on a road that is
Speaker 5: perfectly paved and perfectly late at night and walk into
Speaker 5: a hospital with state of the art technology and be
Speaker 5: able to be treated. That's the appeal. You know, it's
Speaker 5: not the guns.
Speaker 1: The promise. That's the promise.
Speaker 5: The ownership of the gun. People are coming across that, Oh,
Speaker 5: fuck in case I have a run into a gun,
Speaker 5: America will take care of me. That's why people come
Speaker 5: to you, if they come to you, you know. So
Speaker 5: I'd love to see the reinforcement of that narrative, and
Speaker 5: I just don't see.
Speaker 3: It well and again because if you think about it
Speaker 3: right to the point of like mass production, it's easier
Speaker 3: to be like, well, that keeps an industry going if
Speaker 3: we're suddenly like folks, people come to us because if
Speaker 3: we have this robust infrastructure or these other things, that
Speaker 3: would also begin a lot of conversation of how we've
Speaker 3: not reinvested in our own country, like we're like cruising
Speaker 3: off of like you know, post World War two investment
Speaker 3: for like many decades now, especially when you look at
Speaker 3: like public schools and things like that, where you'd hope
Speaker 3: to be like, man, like, we need to reinvest in
Speaker 3: a lot of these things, but because some of those
Speaker 3: would probably create a need for like more like you know,
Speaker 3: tax revenue and things like that just becomes a like
Speaker 3: a like a hot button issue because then we have
Speaker 3: to start talking about like our progressive tax systems, and
Speaker 3: it's easier just to be talking about the thing that
Speaker 3: will make people money unfortunately, and yeah, like it it.
Speaker 3: It really is something that I think a lot of
Speaker 3: Americans have lost sight of, is sort of people always
Speaker 3: say like, this is the best fucking country, but they're not.
Speaker 3: They're looking at it from their version of like I
Speaker 3: got Wi Fi and four K TV, this is the
Speaker 3: best country and like the world versus to your point,
Speaker 3: how a lot of other like the situation in other places.
Speaker 3: Why other people may believe that it's this is a
Speaker 3: nicer place to live, although you know that it is
Speaker 3: an intoxicating advertisement we have and one that people end
Speaker 3: up realizing is a little bit different when they arrive.
Speaker 3: But overall, you know, you do see, like you understand
Speaker 3: why there's a little bit more stability here than other places,
Speaker 3: although it's you know, rooted in some darker things at times.
Speaker 5: Well I don't know why guns into your school system.
Speaker 5: And you know, I have two friends who are American
Speaker 5: and have an eight year old and a twelve year old,
Speaker 5: and they happen to go to college to school in India,
Speaker 5: you know, And so all I can speak from is
Speaker 5: from personal experience. Our school system is so hard that
Speaker 5: our collegiate system set us free, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: It's almost like we were brought up to say, we
Speaker 5: have to work so hard in school so we can
Speaker 5: feel all the things we want to feel in college.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that's a great system, but I'm saying,
Speaker 5: how can you realter your school system so it keeps
Speaker 5: kids busier and it keeps their minds more occupied, so
Speaker 5: they don't turn on each other with these narratives. I
Speaker 5: think that's also a conversation to be had, you know,
Speaker 5: about your school system.
Speaker 3: Like culturally in India, is education seen as a thing
Speaker 3: that is like could be a runaway train, like ideologically,
Speaker 3: because that's sort of the like attitude. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of hostility towards public education in the United States, where
Speaker 3: you see people like I don't want my kid to
Speaker 3: learn that, I don't want my kid to know Rosa
Speaker 3: Parks was black, and like these other things where you're
Speaker 3: seeing too that there's this it's like we're incentivizing like
Speaker 3: the breakdown of public education too. And I think that's
Speaker 3: another thing that like we're having to fight against where
Speaker 3: you know, teachers are already like they're fleeing the industry
Speaker 3: because there's a lack of support, a lack of proper pay,
Speaker 3: and we're making it as as an uninviting a place
Speaker 3: for people who would like want to teach people to exist,
Speaker 3: like to work and things like that.
Speaker 5: Well, no, I think for us, you know, but we're
Speaker 5: very young country. You have to keep that in mind.
Speaker 5: You know, we got independence in nineteen forty seven, right,
Speaker 5: and so for us education is a privilege, right and
Speaker 5: simply a privilege because it was kept away from us
Speaker 5: for so long. You know, for two hundred and fifty years,
Speaker 5: we weren't allowed to be educated by the British so
Speaker 5: that we wouldn't prosper. So right now, my god, your
Speaker 5: kid is going to school, Your kid is going to college.
Speaker 5: That's the first privilege that you have, right, that's the
Speaker 5: first sign of privilege, apart from meals on the table,
Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. Is education, you know. So I
Speaker 5: don't even think we're at the point where we're like,
Speaker 5: what kind of right narrative et cetera. Said Fuck, we're
Speaker 5: learning this is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been inverted you know here like it's not
Speaker 3: no one. So many people are beginning to look at
Speaker 3: it with hostility and the rhetoric, especially with like a
Speaker 3: lot of conservatives is like this hostility towards academia and
Speaker 3: that like that's where indoctrination happens or whatever. And they've
Speaker 3: made that a very like like a compelling talking point
Speaker 3: for their base to be able to look at that
Speaker 3: and not see that this is something that causes upward
Speaker 3: mobility or something that you know, black and brown people
Speaker 3: see as a privilege too. That's why many people want
Speaker 3: to go to college. But but again, the status quo
Speaker 3: is such that we're you know, we like right now
Speaker 3: we're having to fight this whole campaign of like school choice,
Speaker 3: which is really just a way to say we need to.
Speaker 1: Destroy the public school system.
Speaker 3: And and so like, yeah, we're we have like some
Speaker 3: people understand the value of education and that it is
Speaker 3: absolutely a privilege or you know, something worth just like
Speaker 3: being able to teach our kids like the most basic
Speaker 3: things about like our history or math or reading, while others,
Speaker 3: like you know, see it as a slippery slope into
Speaker 3: being woke, right or that they're like I'm going to
Speaker 3: teach my kid at home or something like that, or
Speaker 3: I don't want my kids with other kids that are
Speaker 3: different than them. So it's just a it's we just have,
Speaker 3: like there's just so much chaos going on in like
Speaker 3: people's ability to even see something as education is like
Speaker 3: a right for everyone and isn't something that needs to
Speaker 3: be turned into like a a rhetorical barb.
Speaker 5: And that's why you have a twenty minute debate and
Speaker 5: it sorts everything out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and we're good here. Yeah. Well, Vier, it's
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on the daily. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you, see you all that
Speaker 1: good stuff.
Speaker 5: You can find me on vivdas dot I n I
Speaker 5: don't have dot com yet because some boss stood bought
Speaker 5: it and he faulted on one payment when I was
Speaker 5: twenty eight years old. So it's Vida's I. I'm going
Speaker 5: to be touring America throughout May in June, so you
Speaker 5: can find my My city's there, and you can catch
Speaker 5: me on Netflix. The specials called Vida's Landing, so check
Speaker 5: it out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice. Is there a city that you haven't been
Speaker 1: to that you're particularly excited to see in the US.
Speaker 5: I'm building a set right now, so I'm kind of
Speaker 5: doing you know, smaller rooms and so I'm going to
Speaker 5: like Prayer, California and Salt Lake City in Houston, and
Speaker 5: a bunch of other places you know to be.
Speaker 1: From Atlantic City you've got coming up? I guess that
Speaker 1: was yesterday as of Oh no, sorry, that's my May thirteenth,
Speaker 1: Atlantic City. An interesting experiment. Yeah yeah, And is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5: Good lord, or local media that I've been enjoying. I
Speaker 5: just follow an account called the Dodo on in it's
Speaker 5: like dog rescue video video stuff, and I like everything
Speaker 5: that they do. I love a good dog rescue video.
Speaker 5: I'm the guy who will skip to the part where
Speaker 5: the dog is rescued that I'll catch one glimpse of
Speaker 5: the dog when it's sad, not be able to watch
Speaker 5: the rest, and just skip ahead until the dog is
Speaker 5: happy and fluffy and healthy again. But watch the Dodo
Speaker 5: there you go on Instagram. I love all this stuff.
Speaker 3: I always get. I always get for whatever. And the
Speaker 3: ones that hit the hardest for me are the ones
Speaker 3: where you see like a sheep whose wool has become
Speaker 3: like just.
Speaker 5: So mad and they have to shave it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like this this this, like this sheep
Speaker 3: was blind, they couldn't even see.
Speaker 1: And then you see them.
Speaker 3: Like working all the Woolen stuff off.
Speaker 1: And them like, oh, bless the blessed plus that issue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you, all right, Miles. Where can people find you
Speaker 1: as their working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 3: Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and
Speaker 3: Jack Got Mad Bosties. Yeah, you know, we're talking about
Speaker 3: the NBA playoffs. And then you can find me on
Speaker 3: my own the show A four to twenty day Fiance
Speaker 3: where I talk about just absolute trash reality shows because
Speaker 3: that's the way I escape from reality by going into
Speaker 3: that other reality.
Speaker 1: Is there a tea a tweet? I like, let's see.
Speaker 3: I just want to keep the pressure and just keep
Speaker 3: talking about Harlan Crowe and you know Thomas or Clarence
Speaker 3: Thomas and I didn't realize. We talked about how Harlan
Speaker 3: Crowe bought his mom's house. She still lives in that
Speaker 3: house that he bought and renovated.
Speaker 1: So what's the big deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's basically like here's money and then you
Speaker 3: can live in it for free or I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what their agreement is, but I'm surely
Speaker 3: that doesn't curry favor with the Supreme Court Justice uh
Speaker 3: at Will or Will Stancil at w H. Stancill tweeted,
Speaker 3: I feel like people are losing perspective. A billionaire subsidized
Speaker 3: millions in luxury travel for a Supreme Court justice, then
Speaker 3: bought the justice's parents' house and let them stay in
Speaker 3: it while he paid for it short of envelopes of money.
Speaker 3: How much more crooked could you get? Yeah, so we'll see,
Speaker 3: we'll see how its.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A tweet I've been enjoying is Josiah Johnson King
Speaker 1: Josiah on Twitter. Fixed the NBA for me, fixed the
Speaker 1: draft for me. He said they should do Somebody said,
Speaker 1: what's one thing you change about the NBA playoffs? And
Speaker 1: he said, they should do NBA way offs and have
Speaker 1: the bottom four teams play for the number one pick
Speaker 1: same week as the play in games. That would be incredible,
Speaker 1: so amazing. Yeah, that would be so what a great idea,
Speaker 1: King Josiah, make him the king of the NBA. Literally.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrian.
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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy it?
Speaker 3: Just, you know, just some more beats, some head nod
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep that going.
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