Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty three,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirdy's Guys Say production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into the mary Go Share consciousness.
Speaker 2: And it is Tuesday, April.
Speaker 1: Eighteenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Four twenty minus two is what we called out here.
Speaker 2: But also National Animal Crackers Day. Shout out the animal crackers.
Speaker 2: Love that.
Speaker 1: I remember that your animal crackers ready for four to
Speaker 1: twenty the least saying food to munch on with that
Speaker 1: cotton mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll just turn your mouth into dust. And then
Speaker 2: also I just remember because we were talking about like
Speaker 2: linement TikTok about like women who go after like electrical lignment.
Speaker 2: It's also National Lineman Appreciation Day, not like O line
Speaker 2: in football, like people who work on the power line. Wait,
Speaker 2: women who go after them. This might have been when
Speaker 2: I was out, but this is like a whole TikTok
Speaker 2: thing about like people who are like, oh they're what
Speaker 2: were they calling them? Beck, I know you, I know you,
Speaker 2: I know you remember it was like they're on them
Speaker 2: like line hose or basket holes or something, because like
Speaker 2: open the basket and they're like they just want them
Speaker 2: for their good pay and stuff like that about.
Speaker 3: What I actually don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: You don't remember this like light on TikTok.
Speaker 1: I remember them, Miles, Okay.
Speaker 2: You remember that, Sam remembers.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm okay, okay, good, all right, as long as
Speaker 1: Sam's with me.
Speaker 2: But yes, anyway, all that to say, it's April eighteen.
Speaker 2: All right, well my name is my birthday. Sorry I
Speaker 2: had to chime in, like you went hard all weekend.
Speaker 1: Oh my streaming birthday is April eighteen.
Speaker 2: Were you just smoking like filterless reds like Marlboro Reds
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 1: You're streaming in a disco club.
Speaker 2: That's okay, I get it. Hey, get in where you fit.
Speaker 1: In most importantly, Happy birthday, super producer Becca Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always buy my co.
Speaker 2: Host, mister Miles. Come on now, it's just me big
Speaker 2: Daddy Gray up in here. The Lord of Lancasham is here.
Speaker 2: And also look I will I will see my akad
Speaker 2: to just reinforced one more time. Happy birthday to the
Speaker 2: Voiceless One aka Becca Ramos, shout out to you on
Speaker 2: your birthday today.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds cool to me. Actually, her
Speaker 1: voice sounds great.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it sounds like this, like the kind
Speaker 2: of voice you thought was like an edgy girl from
Speaker 2: high school. Like, there's this girl in my high school
Speaker 2: smoked a ton of cigarettes and her voice is graspy,
Speaker 2: and I was like, dude, her voice is like You's like,
Speaker 2: she's cool. She's cool because she smokes so many cigarettes.
Speaker 2: So anyway, shout out to you. Also, do your taxes
Speaker 2: miles we are unless you're in La County, fam, because
Speaker 2: we got to October because of the disaster.
Speaker 1: Shout out, Yeah, yeah, shout out La County.
Speaker 2: Shout out.
Speaker 1: Sure to be joined in our third seat by one
Speaker 1: of the hosts of Stuff Mom Never Told You, returning
Speaker 1: one of our favorites, also now co author of the
Speaker 1: upcoming Stuff Mom Never Told You book.
Speaker 2: It's Samantha McMath. What's I am?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm How do you answer that question anymore?
Speaker 3: I'm here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're doing it. You breathe right, That's that's
Speaker 2: all we can ask. That's how how are your breaths?
Speaker 2: How is your breathing?
Speaker 3: If we're going to lower the short shallow a little
Speaker 3: bit pace right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, shortened shallows.
Speaker 2: I love how dark is your recording space.
Speaker 3: So I made a whole space and I've got a
Speaker 3: whole like sound blanket. Also, I just like to be
Speaker 3: a floating head. I think that's fun. Guess when they're
Speaker 3: very scared by the very washed out, washed out face
Speaker 3: and the floating head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just pitch darkness.
Speaker 3: It makes for a good conversation.
Speaker 2: What was the dude called in Pee Wee's Peelee's Playhouse
Speaker 2: that was like the disembodied head in the box like
Speaker 2: mecha laicha heineyh. Yeah, that's you're giving me that with
Speaker 2: the floating head or.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm getting Bohemian Rhapsody video like the tight shots.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the death Row source album cover.
Speaker 1: Also, this is important album cover. So Sam, you're you're
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I am.
Speaker 2: What's good?
Speaker 1: You have to pay your taxes today. Unlike the rest
Speaker 1: of us on this podcast.
Speaker 3: We're not cool and don't have an extension unless we
Speaker 3: file for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we got a little bit of rain in
Speaker 2: that one was a legit.
Speaker 3: I saw those videos.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a little yeah yeah yeah. So but it
Speaker 2: was wild too because when like when I was reading
Speaker 2: a thing, it's like I was like, surely, like we're
Speaker 2: not part of that, But I was like, no, La
Speaker 2: County is one of the counties that has a disaster extension.
Speaker 1: I guess there you go. All right, Sam, We're gonna
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First, we're gonna tell our listener to a couple of
Speaker 1: things we're talking about today. Roger Stone is mining the
Speaker 1: far right extremist message boards four ideas, and he thinks
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump should pick Robert Kennedy Junior for his
Speaker 1: running mate, just to do your own research ticket that
Speaker 1: I don't know that people are nervous about. This be interesting.
Speaker 1: He's already running for the Democratic president, Like, he's already
Speaker 1: thrown his name in the hat as a presidential candidate
Speaker 1: as a Democrat.
Speaker 2: So ah, yes, yes, yes, good good.
Speaker 1: We are going to talk about Tucker Carlson wanting to
Speaker 1: invade Canada. He seems to like think this is either
Speaker 1: a really funny bit or he really wants to because
Speaker 1: now he has a whole documentary out about it. Harlan
Speaker 1: prow has finally spoke and just yeah, he's just a
Speaker 1: regular guy.
Speaker 2: His side from the mega donor's mouth.
Speaker 1: Hey he first of all, he's he's not he didn't inherit.
Speaker 1: He's no nepo baby, he's a he made his own
Speaker 1: money by taking over his dad's giant real estate company.
Speaker 2: Oh here's here's the thing. I inherit did these bootstraps. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, but I did lift myself that.
Speaker 1: Needed pulling one. So we're gonna talk about it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the miles you've been on a real
Speaker 1: AI kick. The AI music world has you.
Speaker 2: It has you so much, it's it's so wild, it
Speaker 2: has my fucking imagination doing loops and and I will
Speaker 2: I will show you why because it's getting more and
Speaker 2: more sophisticated.
Speaker 1: We might talk about baby Shark, we might talk about tupperware,
Speaker 1: all of this plenty more. But first, Sam, we like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 3: All right, So y'all know I do an intersexual podcast, right,
Speaker 3: So that means I do a lot of really sad things,
Speaker 3: because everything is sad right now when it comes to
Speaker 3: intersexual feminism. But We're also doing a whole episode about
Speaker 3: k pop soon. So my last research was about the
Speaker 3: dark side of K pop.
Speaker 2: Oom like what like the like what happens I come
Speaker 2: onto shows like this and then I've become the a
Speaker 2: zach pessimistic asshole. I know, I know, I want to know.
Speaker 2: I know how dark J pop, Japanese pop is like
Speaker 2: in terms of the organizational structure of some of these
Speaker 2: groups that to me look like plantations for like you know,
Speaker 2: for artists or whatever. But is that I'm guessing it's
Speaker 2: something similar where they're like, you are not you. You
Speaker 2: are our cog that we tell to do what to do,
Speaker 2: and if you complain, you will be shit canned and then.
Speaker 3: Good luck exactly like I would think cancel culture is
Speaker 3: actually a real thing for K pop, and I guess
Speaker 3: jpop people when it's like audiences don't like you, you're
Speaker 3: gone and you're gone forever. But yeah, essentially, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of like sexual assault allegations within the within their
Speaker 3: sexual abuse, a lot of abuse in general. Like there
Speaker 3: was one video of a really big band who are
Speaker 3: being beaten by their manager.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so there you go. Happy days kop.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Okay, no, no, no, good to know, good to know.
Speaker 2: When's that episode dropping?
Speaker 3: H that's gonna be a while because now we're talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, all the bad things about Christianity and white
Speaker 3: white nationalism.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we were just talking about how spooky
Speaker 2: ghost stories are being used to gotcha the pro choice
Speaker 2: people where they're like, Jesus Is Mary's tummy touched John
Speaker 2: the Baptist and he jumped, so get the fuck out
Speaker 2: of here to their mom belly.
Speaker 3: That's a new story.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, yeah, you didn't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I went to man. I went to Bible ass school
Speaker 2: from K through twelve, and I never heard about baby
Speaker 2: bumping between Mary and I think John the Baptist mother,
Speaker 2: don't forget her name. I had heard that one.
Speaker 1: That must be like a real favorite of the Catholics
Speaker 1: that like he really yeah, like I just remember like
Speaker 1: the phrasing of like and then he did, like he
Speaker 1: leapt in her womb.
Speaker 2: Right right, And that's why abortion is evil? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they got a ton of last Women are
Speaker 2: people though, And I mean, look, we could go to
Speaker 2: Adam and Eve. I'm mean it's right there from the beginning.
Speaker 3: Women are the worst.
Speaker 1: You did a nice little floor routine with an amazing
Speaker 1: dismount in her womb and then everybody was impressed, and yes.
Speaker 2: That's what it reads and wow, yeah, gold medalist John
Speaker 2: the Bath stuck the landing as it should. What is
Speaker 2: something you think is overrated? Oh god?
Speaker 3: Do you y'all ask me these questions and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know everything. One of the biggest things I
Speaker 3: guess is right now, socializing being around people. So this
Speaker 3: is a stretch for me, hanging out with more than
Speaker 3: one person that's my host, this is co host. This
Speaker 3: is a stretch.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Not that you guys are overrated, no, sounds like that,
Speaker 3: but just talking to people in general is tiresome.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 1: Can we say that way?
Speaker 2: What kind of what? What sort of interactions have you
Speaker 2: been having that that fall into this category?
Speaker 3: Well, people are actually having birthday parties and getting married.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand, so I'm having to go
Speaker 3: to that. I don't want to do this.
Speaker 2: It's a general merriment. You're like, what the fucking in general? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was. The pandemic allowed me to go full curmudgeon
Speaker 2: and now, yeah, you're slowly emerging. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: Living my best life. I'm not gonna lie. Sorry, not
Speaker 3: not the disease, but pandemic.
Speaker 1: It's been isolated the well.
Speaker 2: I mean for people like me who didn't know how
Speaker 2: to say no to social invitations. That was like a
Speaker 2: welcomed pause and things, because before I'd be like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I gotta go to this thing, and then this other thing,
Speaker 2: and then now I yeah, now now I'm now I'm
Speaker 2: saying no more. But I am. I went to three
Speaker 2: I went to three birthdays out of park. Like in
Speaker 2: the last three consecutive weekends. It's been pretty wow, pretty solid.
Speaker 2: What what's something you think is underrated? Underrated? See again?
Speaker 3: So I had originally like minding your own business because
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a lot of drama, But then at the
Speaker 3: same time, I kind of enjoyed the drama, so I'm like, uh,
Speaker 3: is it really But yeah, okay, so what wait?
Speaker 2: So it is minding your business?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will go with that now. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, minding your business but enjoying it from the outside.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 2: Okay? So yeah, lurking, lurking is lurking?
Speaker 3: Yea, oh god, that makes me sound like.
Speaker 2: You're not inserting well, I mean, but that's like an
Speaker 2: Internet term when you like, you look at websites, but
Speaker 2: you don't engage.
Speaker 1: In the conversation. You're just lurking, like on that is.
Speaker 3: That is my Twitter persona, That is my social media persona.
Speaker 2: I will say, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, so lurkers of
Speaker 2: the world unite. You know, sometimes you just want to
Speaker 2: watch people fight and you're.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, but stay in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't have to be part of it.
Speaker 1: I like to post that neighborhood watch thing. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I post on any social media platform. But
Speaker 1: I just put it up there to let people know
Speaker 1: they're always under my watchful eye.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I accidentally got is one of the admin just because
Speaker 3: my neighborhood didn't have a page. I didn't know this,
Speaker 3: So you like, if you don't have a page, if
Speaker 3: you get two or three people to come on, and
Speaker 3: then because you're one of the first people, you become
Speaker 3: an admin for it. So I did not that that
Speaker 3: was the worst way for me to be on the
Speaker 3: neighborhood next door page.
Speaker 1: Yeah in the world, you're a mom for your neighborhood.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to ignore it. Now, but like I
Speaker 3: would get notifications and be like do you accept this post?
Speaker 3: I was like, this is the worst. They have too
Speaker 3: much time on their hands.
Speaker 2: Right, They're like they're scared of a Pride flag and
Speaker 2: they're going to call the police on the flag, not
Speaker 2: the homeowner this flag. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it's up to. What do you guys think? I
Speaker 2: need your input? Wait when you say the Neighborhood Watched,
Speaker 2: which one do you mean Jack the weird eye or
Speaker 2: the dude in like the trench code who has like
Speaker 2: the mass in.
Speaker 1: The trench code, who has like this one? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has on a very angular fedora.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is the like? Who is like? Where
Speaker 2: did this come from? That? We're like, look out for
Speaker 2: this guy the man in Yeah, right, is he a
Speaker 2: ham and do you have a trench? I mean he
Speaker 2: has very angular clothing on. I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: very very angular.
Speaker 1: His eyes stopped like his face stops right below his eyes,
Speaker 1: I think, and he I've actually got a spec script
Speaker 1: that I'm working on or the National Neighborhood Watch logo
Speaker 1: Shared Universe Cinematics.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, there was that movie that they had to
Speaker 3: take down because of well, the shootings, but didn't was
Speaker 3: it seth Rogan? Didn't they try to do like a
Speaker 3: comedic movie based on Neighborhood Watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was called Neighborhood Watch and then they changed
Speaker 1: it to Watch or The Watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had postpone it because of all the
Speaker 3: ship that went down.
Speaker 1: So that movie comes up a lot because it's one
Speaker 1: of super producer Ana Josier's favorite comedic Russian nesting dolls
Speaker 1: for the first time each one comes out and his
Speaker 1: mind just blown by each successive Russian nesting.
Speaker 2: He's just just like, I can't get over the concept. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that was a movie called Neighborhood Watch and then
Speaker 1: it came out as The Watch. Yeah, someone actually watched it.
Speaker 1: Some moments, has its moments, which is all I looked
Speaker 1: for in a comedy. Give me one scene, give me
Speaker 1: sticks in my brain and I'm yours.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very low bar, the lowest of bars. We're
Speaker 2: just like I had that one, did you like for me?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I only know that scene because it was
Speaker 2: just shown to me in isolation, right, And I was like,
Speaker 2: and that's why I was like, oh I know that part.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fucking movie is about that,
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, the Vince Vaughn rushing nestingal movie.
Speaker 2: But I didn't realize there was any controversy attached to
Speaker 2: the Yeah, I mean our great Maga laureate Vince.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was around the Trayvon thing because it yeah fucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I think it also has like an alien
Speaker 1: plot line.
Speaker 3: Why not, as all of them should.
Speaker 2: Don't limit yourself with your ideas, please just put it.
Speaker 2: Some extraterrestrials always spices things up. All right, let's take
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk some news,
Speaker 2: we'll get into it. We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: All right, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And Roger Stone has an idea, has a pitch to
Speaker 1: save Trump's twenty twenty four election. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it needs saving, but his pitch bringing. Robert F. Kennedy
Speaker 1: Junior recently filed the paperwork to run for president in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four as a Democrat. He is a rabbit
Speaker 1: anti vaxer who recently penned a book called The Real
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci. And I think it's an unauthorized I don't
Speaker 1: think he had the cooperation of Anthony. It's on his
Speaker 1: sub stack. Yeah, also suggested that in that book, and
Speaker 1: Frank was better off than American's under supposed vaccine mandates
Speaker 1: because she could at least hide from the Nazis, so
Speaker 1: all reasonable, open to alternative points of view. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he's basically been disowned by his family. Doesn't have a
Speaker 1: chance in the Democratic race, but some are suggesting that
Speaker 1: his presidential bid would work out better if he joined
Speaker 1: up with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting, I mean, because what right now you
Speaker 2: got it's him, It's only him and Mary Anne Williamson.
Speaker 2: I think that have actually set out for the nomination
Speaker 2: as of right now against Joe Biden. Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maryann Williamson is back. Yeah, oh yeah, big Orbs, the
Speaker 2: ORB gang is back in the building, get ready for Vibe,
Speaker 2: the Vibe Presidency of twenty four. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's just wild how much his entire family
Speaker 2: hates him too. Like he's he's like this, you know,
Speaker 2: he's been ousted from his own family, although his wife,
Speaker 2: Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusiasm, still sticking by him,
Speaker 2: Still sticking by him. That's crazy. What is he? What's
Speaker 2: he exactly? He just think is like, this is how
Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to like split the vote to
Speaker 2: get independence by having RFK junior.
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I think that's the idea is just get
Speaker 1: that there's enough people who you know, the pandemic just
Speaker 1: kind of broke them and now the they are just
Speaker 1: anti vacs across the board. And he is the only
Speaker 1: politician running who speaks to that very specific demo.
Speaker 2: So he's I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that bubbles up, like the
Speaker 1: all right wing talking points. I feel like to be
Speaker 1: a luminary on the right. Not only that you know,
Speaker 1: incredibly easy to find an audience, but it's also incredibly
Speaker 1: easy to do your job because you just search the
Speaker 1: Nazi chat rooms and then steal talking points from them.
Speaker 1: That where this has been a big idea for a
Speaker 1: while on like substack and all the not.
Speaker 2: Right just to a finder replace for that and replace
Speaker 2: arian with patriots yes, and then exact people get the point,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm reading this part that
Speaker 2: he that from the Roger Stone substack speaking of substacks,
Speaker 2: where he's essentially saying one thing is certain. However, the
Speaker 2: selection of RFK as vice president would silence those within
Speaker 2: the Republican Party who are today critical in retrospect of
Speaker 2: Trump's handling of the COVID nineteen pandemic, as well as
Speaker 2: building a bridge for thousands of Democrats and independence disgusted
Speaker 2: by Biden's fumbling foreign policy and the implication of the
Speaker 2: collapse of US economic dominance to vote for Trump. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I think he's basically saying, hey, if you do this,
Speaker 2: even though you get booed Donald Trump for bringing up
Speaker 2: the vaccine, if you hire RFK, the human embodiment of
Speaker 2: anti vaxers, that that will help your cred with those
Speaker 2: people that you may have pissed off. I guess and
Speaker 2: others who are like, yeah, RFK, who like all I
Speaker 2: know are the worst takes, is going to be the
Speaker 2: one to shepherd the United States into Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's very confusing how that would work with Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: claiming victory over the pandemic because of his work in
Speaker 1: Operation Warpspeed getting the vaccine through, and then RFK being
Speaker 1: like and thank you just to springboard off the vaccine.
Speaker 1: The vaccine was a pandemic to try and kill you,
Speaker 1: and you know, like it doesn't really make like any
Speaker 1: practical sense whatsoever. It feels like one of those things
Speaker 1: where they're just looking at demos and being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this would hit.
Speaker 3: Is Roger Stone still helping with Trump's.
Speaker 1: Stuff, help contributing.
Speaker 2: I like this.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's just posting things because he's yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, look, okay,
Speaker 3: he's kind of like an in cel hiding in the corner.
Speaker 2: But for Trump, he's lurking. But he's but he's not,
Speaker 2: but he's not. Actually he's not minding his business either
Speaker 2: for the.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's not on my level.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he would have just said this
Speaker 2: stuff in private. But he does too much cocaine to
Speaker 2: not you know, have his sub stack be blank obviously allegedly,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that hearing like his like family,
Speaker 2: like his his one brother, uh, like Rory said when
Speaker 2: they ask about his brother, like this is a difficult
Speaker 2: situation for me. I love my older brother Bobby. He
Speaker 2: has extraordinary charisma and is a gifted speaker. You know.
Speaker 2: I admire his past work as an environmentalist. Because of him,
Speaker 2: we can swim in the Hudson. But due to a
Speaker 2: wide range of his positions, I'm supporting President President Biden.
Speaker 2: His other sister just said, I prefer not to talk
Speaker 2: about him, So yeah, I don't know. I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: him and Mary Anne Williamson can team up or something
Speaker 2: and just completely confuse everybody. Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson seems to be serious about wanting to invade Canada,
Speaker 1: at least serious enough to make a big documentary about it.
Speaker 1: This is his follow up to the End of Men,
Speaker 1: which was a documentary that he released that got a
Speaker 1: lot of attention. We should probably do like a deep
Speaker 1: dive into the End of Men.
Speaker 2: I think, wasn't it just like him on a horse
Speaker 2: a lot? I don't know. I feel like that was
Speaker 2: like the main takeaway from that. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: he must think being on a horse is like cool
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, tell you.
Speaker 1: Man up right, well, speaking of men on a horse,
Speaker 1: you know, Canada has the Mounties and Tucker Carlson thinks
Speaker 1: we could take him. Maybe he's just like jealous of
Speaker 1: their horse charisma, like they're they've got.
Speaker 3: Why does he hate Canada so much?
Speaker 2: He? I don't know, he thinks that they.
Speaker 1: I think he basically got real into the trucker convoy
Speaker 1: and like real hyped up on that being a thing
Speaker 1: that he could kind of run with for a while,
Speaker 1: and so he has adopted all of their talking points,
Speaker 1: and he's claiming that the US has an obligation to
Speaker 1: liberate Canada from tyranny. Intercuttings of Justin Trudeau with news
Speaker 1: footage from the invasion of Iraq and Libya. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna give We're gonna do a democracy delivery.
Speaker 2: Is that's what he's asking for. Yeah, hey, destabilizing democracy
Speaker 2: delivery right at your door, courtesy of the US Army.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay go. Yeah. I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: we were that it was meant to basically be like
Speaker 2: Trudeau is this despotic person that must be overthrown. I
Speaker 2: mean sure, you know, I think most leaders of Western
Speaker 2: nations can probably be replaced. But I like that. I
Speaker 2: like this take though, that it's like it's a it's
Speaker 2: like a moral obligation.
Speaker 1: It's a moral obligation, and citing like military disasters is interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, just like we did with Iraq. That worked
Speaker 1: out well, moving on, moving on, I don't think too
Speaker 1: long about that. The movie's evidence for said tyranny mainly
Speaker 1: seems to be interviews with anti vaxxers who defied lockdown
Speaker 1: measures and white supremacists who were part of the Conboy
Speaker 1: protest protest, by the way, which lasted three weeks before
Speaker 1: the cops did a fucking thing about it, in case
Speaker 1: anyone's confused about where the tyranny actually is and who
Speaker 1: actually has rights in either country, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: But you're right. Yeah, I'd love to see how do
Speaker 2: those what do they do with pipeline protests up north there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: not to handle the same kid gloves.
Speaker 1: Give me three weeks see where they're going with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it just generally it also like one of
Speaker 1: the fictions that has to be invented to make this
Speaker 1: like version of events pos well is like Justin Trudeau
Speaker 1: has to be this like really smooth and effective dictator,
Speaker 1: like who's making things happen behind the scenes. It's just
Speaker 1: like you know, our writer jam who submitted the stories
Speaker 1: saying that like this is the coolest that Justin Trudeau
Speaker 1: has ever looked because he's actually just kind of the
Speaker 1: ineffectual nice guy. Tucker Carlson's like created these really cool
Speaker 1: propaganda posters for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like fucking Shepherd fairy made this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty like they're trying to do the Obama treatment
Speaker 2: from like eight. But yeah, hey, look it just why
Speaker 2: don't you call him like a Nepo baby or something? Right,
Speaker 2: that's more to the heart of the matter. But I
Speaker 2: guess maybe maybe better for Tucker Carlson not to say that,
Speaker 2: because his whole thing's built on an empire. Frozen dinners.
Speaker 2: Frozen dinners, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, speaking of Nepo babies, we finally
Speaker 1: got to hear from Harlan Crowe. He'd had just about
Speaker 1: enough of all this slander, I mean, recently gave an
Speaker 1: interview to was the Dallas Morning News.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to set you wanted to
Speaker 2: set the fucking record straight about him and his relationship
Speaker 2: with Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Okay, it's fucking it's nothing.
Speaker 2: It's this whole piece is really it's really something like
Speaker 2: he clearly has no idea like what it means to
Speaker 2: be a billionaire and what influence comes along with that,
Speaker 2: because's like, well, I don't understand, like I'm just hanging
Speaker 2: out with people. When they ask about the pro public article,
Speaker 2: he says, quote I think it's a political hit job.
Speaker 2: He goes on this, I don't think the media really
Speaker 2: cares much about Harlan crow and I think they're right.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't care much about Harlan Crowe because I don't
Speaker 2: want to be outed as someone who is highly influential
Speaker 2: with my money. Okay, it's a hit job here. Then
Speaker 2: he says, oh, you know, I think I think the
Speaker 2: media and this Pro Publica group in particular funded by leftists,
Speaker 2: has an agendaed a d stable court. Uh huh. What
Speaker 2: they've done is not truthful, even though like in the
Speaker 2: Pro Publica thing, they're like, we asked him for comment
Speaker 2: on all this stuff, and he like was very dismissive
Speaker 2: of everything and never disputed anything that we reported. So
Speaker 2: where is the lack of truth there?
Speaker 1: It's not truthful. It lacks integrity very specific words. So
Speaker 1: what what specifically is he debating or what specifically it's.
Speaker 2: Not so unclear, so unclear. It's like, oh, so you
Speaker 2: didn't you don't go like you didn't fly him around
Speaker 2: on your jet. He doesn't deny that you don't go
Speaker 2: on trips together. He doesn't deny that you didn't buy
Speaker 2: him like Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglas. Shit doesn't deny that.
Speaker 2: Then he goes on about like when they ask about
Speaker 2: what about your relationship with Clarence Thomas? And then this
Speaker 2: is this is fucking great. He goes quote a lot
Speaker 2: of people that have opinions about this seem to think
Speaker 2: that there's something wrong with this friendship. You know, it's
Speaker 2: possible that people are just really friends. It blows my
Speaker 2: mind that people assume that because Clarence Thomas has friends,
Speaker 2: that those friends have an angle. Then he goes on
Speaker 2: to say Crow says that he is pro choice and
Speaker 2: Thomas is not. And then he goes to say, quote,
Speaker 2: do you think I would try to influence him about
Speaker 2: my point of view on that matter? No, of course not.
Speaker 2: That's insane. We have different points of view on that
Speaker 2: and probably other issues. And then so I think that
Speaker 2: article goes so what do they talk about? Quote? You know,
Speaker 2: I can't talk to Clarence without him asking all about
Speaker 2: the kids? What are they doing?
Speaker 1: We have a dog named otis that Clarence particularly likes.
Speaker 2: We talk about dogs a lot. Really, really, sir, you're
Speaker 2: a fucking billionaire thirty times over and you're that all
Speaker 2: You're like we talked about That sounds like when I
Speaker 2: got caught smoking weed and my mom's asking what I'm
Speaker 2: doing when I'm hanging out with my friends and I
Speaker 2: can't say smoking weed. I'm like, you know, Chris just
Speaker 2: got like a new dog, and I like dogs, So
Speaker 2: we just talk about the dogs. Yeah, Like, no, you
Speaker 2: smell like chronic full. What are you talking about? Okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, kids, dogs, the kids and the dogs.
Speaker 5: That's like what you talk about with people you don't
Speaker 5: know to kill time because you're like having to that.
Speaker 2: That's that's amazing. Well, it's like you might as well
Speaker 2: have said he might as well have said that. They
Speaker 2: talk about the weather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the weather sometimes because sometimes it's hot, and so
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. And that's really it, just what
Speaker 1: the weather is.
Speaker 2: Dogs. Let me see if there's anything else.
Speaker 1: Oh, kids, did I mention kids? Did we talked about?
Speaker 1: Because I have kids, So we talk about the kids.
Speaker 2: Kids and how.
Speaker 1: Many how many fingers they have on their hands, their hair.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna believe this. Sometimes the kids play with
Speaker 1: the dog and that'll that'll last us through the weekend,
Speaker 1: talking about what they did with the dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know there's call records right around the
Speaker 2: time that road decision leaked. We were just talking about
Speaker 2: dogs then too. That's that's that's all that was going on. Sam,
Speaker 2: what do you what's your feeling on the like the
Speaker 2: revelations of finding out that Clarence Thomas says it's just
Speaker 2: really good friends with these people.
Speaker 3: Well about that, I don't know, but I will say
Speaker 3: I am the person who, probably as a millionaire or billionaire,
Speaker 3: would just have dogs and not anything else. So I
Speaker 3: don't see that things so far fetched.
Speaker 2: But would you also buy.
Speaker 3: All I care about is my dog? So there's that
Speaker 3: I don't actually care about people. And maybe that's where
Speaker 3: that's just the bad.
Speaker 1: Take I have. They do talk about the kids, It
Speaker 1: sounds like you wouldn't be talking about the kids, right. Yes,
Speaker 1: people make a big deal that he had a signed
Speaker 1: copy of mind Koff, But Sam, you know this, They
Speaker 1: ask you to sign so many of these things when
Speaker 1: you're making writing a book, Like it's so easy to
Speaker 1: get a signed copy like Hitler was just in his bunker. No,
Speaker 1: just signing copy after copy because that's what the publisher demands.
Speaker 3: You'd have to outbid other white supermass.
Speaker 1: That's fine, they.
Speaker 2: Were giving them out like all over you know, and
Speaker 2: like occupy Poland and Germany. It was like when they
Speaker 2: were giving out Frampton Comes Alive, you know, like the
Speaker 2: probably is.
Speaker 3: A copy in Texas, of several copies as in fact,
Speaker 3: if anywhere I would be in Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: The detail in the book about the Bush family called
Speaker 1: Family of Secrets, I think is what it's called, and
Speaker 1: like the all their CIA connections, and just like offhandedly
Speaker 1: they mentioned that there's like a rich guy in Dallas
Speaker 1: who had the or somewhere in Texas, but he had
Speaker 1: the window that that Oswald shot from when he killed Kennedy.
Speaker 1: He had it removed and like put into his mansion
Speaker 1: so that he would like the frame of the the
Speaker 1: frame of the window. Yes, so that he was so
Speaker 1: like as a you know, trophy of like this is
Speaker 1: what happens to liberals when they come to Texas. And
Speaker 1: it's just like thrown out there as like yeah, this
Speaker 1: is so that's who this guy.
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I put a TV on the other side with Obama
Speaker 2: on it and I just watched his speeches. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: for going on there. Uh, that's that's a really interesting
Speaker 2: you realize, like that's so fucking like, I want the
Speaker 2: fucking window that he was leaning out of.
Speaker 1: Can't get me the gun, give me that window.
Speaker 3: Yeah, immediately after the incident, before they even what this.
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, I think there was something with owning the building.
Speaker 2: It tied in there.
Speaker 1: I'll have to dig it up.
Speaker 2: And I would love though too, that there's just some
Speaker 2: dude grifting for these people. They're just so horny for this.
Speaker 2: And you know, I got the fucking window frame that
Speaker 2: Oswald shot Kennedy through. They're like what, They're like yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's like a rusty just a rusty like metal
Speaker 2: square and you're like, yeah, man, I mean obviously there
Speaker 2: was a building facade around that, but that is actually
Speaker 2: what was That was actually the frame of that window.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, I'll take it. How much? Three million? Great?
Speaker 2: He also goes on to another thing too, because we
Speaker 2: learned about how this guy bought Clarence Thomas's mother's house
Speaker 2: and she lives there rent free, and he did renovations
Speaker 2: to it, and he's like he's like really dismissive about this,
Speaker 2: like it was like a car port and some other stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe if the commode was messed up, I may have
Speaker 2: changed that. A lot of people have said, like they
Speaker 2: did the math and based on the rent, that maybe
Speaker 2: she could have paid like him, her living there rent
Speaker 2: free maybe saved her about one hundred fifty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Sure that was bought. But when they asked about what
Speaker 2: the fuck is the deal? Why would you buy his house?
Speaker 2: He said, quote, I assumed his mother owned the home.
Speaker 2: His life story is an amazing American life story, born
Speaker 2: into deep poverty, father gone mother, the lady whom we're
Speaker 2: talking about, really not able to do a lot and
Speaker 2: help raise her two sons, ultimately raised by his grandparents
Speaker 2: who were literate growing up in jim Crow, Georgia. So
Speaker 2: I approached him with the idea that I might purchase
Speaker 2: that home for the purpose that in due course it
Speaker 2: could be the boyhood home of a great American, like
Speaker 2: a museum for clare Thomas. Here's the thing I from
Speaker 2: what I remember on my appearance on Behind the Bastards
Speaker 2: the Clarence Thomas episodes, Uh check that podcast out with
Speaker 2: Robert Evans, that he went to go live with his grandparents, Specifically,
Speaker 2: his grandfather raised him. So he never lived like this
Speaker 2: home that she lives in in Savannah, Georgia to mind recollection,
Speaker 2: he never lived in and like, as he even said,
Speaker 2: ultimately raised by his grandfriends. Like but yeah, like I
Speaker 2: think it'd be a great his boyhood home for this
Speaker 2: rights regressor. I don't know, I think was his his
Speaker 2: idea there.
Speaker 1: And again, these gifts all happened to overlap, just happened
Speaker 1: to overlap with a period of unprecedented good fortune for billionaires,
Speaker 1: like when it comes to a Supreme Court rules, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the best fortune. Just yeah, fortune on fortune.
Speaker 1: And then like then we also find out that finally though,
Speaker 1: he did have to set the record straight because we
Speaker 1: talked about the Atlantic piece where Graham would like spent
Speaker 1: a moment to justify Crow's Nazi nick knacks by saying
Speaker 1: that he was unburdening himself with his inherit of his
Speaker 1: inherited wealth. Well, Crow really wants everyone to know he
Speaker 1: is self made. He also used this interview to set
Speaker 1: that record straight. He said when he took over Crow
Speaker 1: Holdings in nineteen ninety, the real estate industry and the
Speaker 1: banking system were in crisis. He says, quote, our company
Speaker 1: was also in distressed, our economic value had deteriorate.
Speaker 2: It. I spent about five years doing workouts. We negotiated
Speaker 2: with a large number of financial institutions over a long
Speaker 2: period of time doing all this, and we tried to
Speaker 2: do it as honorably as we could. And I believe
Speaker 2: we did it very honorably. After it was all over,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just got so suspicious.
Speaker 1: The second on the back of my neck just stood
Speaker 1: up when you read that answer. And so I made
Speaker 1: had millions of dollars and we were honorable about it.
Speaker 2: We did it honorably. I think it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: After it was did you kill.
Speaker 3: He literally said, we tried, Like that's that in itself,
Speaker 3: But you're telling me that you didn't.
Speaker 2: You just admitted to Oh yeah. When when you hear
Speaker 2: billionaires say like honorably so many times, that's that's definitely
Speaker 2: a billionaire speak for it. Yeah, so maybe we fucked
Speaker 2: some people get over it. Yes, like is essentially like.
Speaker 1: But he has these big words integrity, truthful, what the
Speaker 1: what they did reporting on the actual facts of what
Speaker 1: I do is not truthful. It lacks integrity. What I
Speaker 1: do when I make billions of dollars for my company
Speaker 1: is honorable, and I try to do it at least
Speaker 1: I think another word. Nope, I'm going to go back
Speaker 1: to honorable.
Speaker 2: I believe I did it honorably. Like that's also such
Speaker 2: deposition language, like I believe I attempted to do it honorably. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, okay, okay, somebody who knows who's been
Speaker 2: cross examined before. But yeah, I mean if pro public
Speaker 2: pro Publica's got good reporters there, I'm sure that was
Speaker 2: like ding ding ding day, Okay, we know what we're investigating. Next, yeah, next,
Speaker 2: Crow Holdings, What the fuck is going on on in
Speaker 2: the early eighties? Holy yeah, because now they they have
Speaker 2: about thirty billion dollars in assets like under their management
Speaker 2: and it's and it's now profitable. He really wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure they knew that too, it's profitable. So like
Speaker 2: he's also has like this moneymaker's ego that like wrapped
Speaker 2: up into it. And I think that's what's really interesting too,
Speaker 2: is in the end, he's like really trying to paint himself,
Speaker 2: Like he literally is like he's like I just want
Speaker 2: to go to Arby's or Schlotski's, you know, like those
Speaker 2: are my simple things I like to do, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't even know what a mega donor means.
Speaker 2: He says that at one point, and he tries to
Speaker 2: act like taking jets, taking private jets to DC to
Speaker 2: speak with conservative think tanks and their leaders is just
Speaker 2: very normal, and like, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know why are my friends We talk about my kids
Speaker 1: and how they're going to make sure that they are
Speaker 1: billionaires also.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, and that there's enough aber supply for my
Speaker 2: kids to exploit as well when they become billionaires. Do
Speaker 2: you see what I'm You see what I'm getting at
Speaker 2: the Nazi thing though, He says that his mom was
Speaker 2: on a ship that the Nazis sunk and then she
Speaker 2: like survived or something, and he's like, you think i'd
Speaker 2: be You think i'd like some people that tried to
Speaker 2: kill my mom. No, So so check fucking mate. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you've heard the last of Harlan Crowe,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's like, I don't think people
Speaker 1: want to hear about Harlan Crowe, but let me.
Speaker 2: Tell you why I'm not a Nepple baby. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he just said.
Speaker 1: That actually makes you really sound fascinating and like you're
Speaker 1: trying to cover something up. So yeah, if you didn't
Speaker 1: want people to pay attention to you, you should have
Speaker 1: changed your name from the best villain bad guy name
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what. Maybe he just he should
Speaker 2: just do it, Like the how the Koch brothers are
Speaker 2: they fucking talk to anybody? They're like, yeah, whatever, fucking
Speaker 2: just deal with my billions, fucking up this place. Deal
Speaker 2: with that. I'm not gonna give you a comment, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it'll it'll be I'm curious what the
Speaker 2: next sort of round of comments are out of this,
Speaker 2: because now we found like we're hearing that like Clarence
Speaker 2: Thomas also has like weird income from like a defunct
Speaker 2: real estate company that is not reported either, And you're like,
Speaker 2: what how much fucking.
Speaker 3: He didn't make any money? That's what he said. That's
Speaker 3: his excuses make any money?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? I don't even know, man, that's
Speaker 2: what they told me to say. Okay, look, we met
Speaker 2: on a private jet when he offered to fly me
Speaker 2: back when Clarence Thomas was speaking at a think tank
Speaker 2: that I happened to bankroll. Okay, there's nothing weird there.
Speaker 2: Then there is one question where they asked you, like,
Speaker 2: do you think like you'd be like friends if he
Speaker 2: was like a Supreme Court justice, And he was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. He's like, it's hard to.
Speaker 1: Know if he wasn't a Supreme Court justice, would be friends.
Speaker 1: I mean, hmm, Supreme cool justice. Yeah, are there people
Speaker 1: like that who aren't Supreme Court?
Speaker 2: All my friends are Supreme Court justice actually Alito, Scalia,
Speaker 2: Corsic and lawyer Kavanaugh, the boys, you know, even yeah,
Speaker 2: Amy Cony Barrett factors into that too. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: is a the whole thing is again feels like part
Speaker 2: of this whole like we've like we've been saying this
Speaker 2: is the year of the like wealthy, like just shrugging
Speaker 2: and like saying, I don't know what's your fucking problem.
Speaker 2: This is normal.
Speaker 1: It's actually weird that you're looking into my finances.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's actually kind of creepy. Actually you like, wait,
Speaker 2: so hold on, let me get this straight. Like you're
Speaker 2: into like looking into dudes finances. Okay, that's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: All right, whatever, I'm not gonna call it yellow journalism,
Speaker 2: but I will what he did in this piece.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back,
Speaker 1: we'll talk AI music, and we're back. And Miles, you've
Speaker 1: been playing some AI tracks for us, some mashups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know what to call them. But
Speaker 2: so AI, this AI AI generated music collabs are they've
Speaker 2: reached like new heights. Okay, Like over the weekend, I
Speaker 2: listened to more than a few AI generated collabs or
Speaker 2: covers or whatever that never were I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people heard the the Rihanna cover of Beyonce's Cuffet
Speaker 2: and it's like pretty on point. There is this one
Speaker 2: of Kurt Cobain doing black Hole Sun by Soundgarden, which
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, wait what It doesn't sound great,
Speaker 2: but you kind of get an idea of where it's headed.
Speaker 2: And I just want to play a little bit of
Speaker 2: it because it is a little bit freaky to think of, like, wait,
Speaker 2: this is Kurt Cobain doing Soundgarden, but this is black
Speaker 2: Holes one in in dispos in this.
Speaker 4: Jazus no news.
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay that, like they got the
Speaker 2: timber right, It's still the quality of the voice isn't great,
Speaker 2: but again, I see what you got going there, my
Speaker 2: gears are moving, Mike be a.
Speaker 1: Karaoke performance heavily influenced by somebody who was just a
Speaker 1: big cocaine fan.
Speaker 2: Right right exactly. I was like, oh, man, is Rick
Speaker 2: going up there doing cobaine again? What was he doing
Speaker 2: this time? Is in seeing usher? You don't have to call? Uh?
Speaker 2: But then Drake also like went viral over the weekend
Speaker 2: because someone had him doing an ice spice like an
Speaker 2: ice spice track and he was like this he even
Speaker 2: he'd like he'd put it on his Instagram, like this
Speaker 2: is the final straw for Ai. But there was also
Speaker 2: another like track that was supposed to be Drake featuring
Speaker 2: the Weekend. I'll play a little bit of that. That again,
Speaker 2: AI generated song that does not exist of of Drake
Speaker 2: with the Weekend that it so you're not at it's sad.
Speaker 1: He's sad, bang bang talking all day on my nerves
Speaker 1: and ship.
Speaker 2: That's this is Ai.
Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds like Drake, I mean because.
Speaker 2: He already used a lot of voice modulation and like
Speaker 2: on his track, so like you can definitely cover like
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound as like odd as like maybe the
Speaker 2: Kobaine one did. Uh. But then like the weekend comes in,
Speaker 2: and you're really kind of like, holy shit. I think
Speaker 2: like the music is really fun to listen to, like too,
Speaker 2: because it answers like all these what if type questions,
Speaker 2: But the creative in me can't help but wonder what
Speaker 2: the music industry's response to all of this is gonna be.
Speaker 2: Because it's like one thing to ask Dolly to like
Speaker 2: make a pick of like Trump in a crumping battle
Speaker 2: or some shit, yeah, and another to make a believable
Speaker 2: rendition of black Hole Sun with like an artist that
Speaker 2: passed away decades ago or you know, semi believable. That's
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just really I'm curious, like what because
Speaker 2: we've seen like Geddy want to sue like a lot
Speaker 2: of are they're they're they're finding lawsuits against the AI
Speaker 2: companies that are using like their images to generate some
Speaker 2: other images. But like, now, what's the musical response, because
Speaker 2: part of me like it's weird with this. I'm kind
Speaker 2: of hyped. I'm like, can we get a Marvin Gay
Speaker 2: doing House of Balloons album? Yeah, like or just weird
Speaker 2: shit like that. I would love to hear those kinds
Speaker 2: of things. And you're like, oh, i wonder how this
Speaker 2: artist would do this or that now, or like what
Speaker 2: would Hendrix sound like doing like rage against the Machine
Speaker 2: or some shit. I don't know, Like there's just a
Speaker 2: lot of things that I you have these like sort
Speaker 2: of creative ideas that you're like, oh, that would be interesting.
Speaker 2: But I feel like there's at some point the people
Speaker 2: that are making the money out that are like, we
Speaker 2: have to shut this shit off. Yea.
Speaker 3: Have y'all played with any of the AI stuff, whether
Speaker 3: it's Chat, GPT or mid Journey or anything I did.
Speaker 2: I did mid Journey and then like early chat GPT,
Speaker 2: but not like not since it like got paywalled and yeah,
Speaker 2: just been like seeing other people's contributions with.
Speaker 3: It, right Oh yeah, because I know there's conversations about
Speaker 3: how do you file lawsuits for what if it's open property?
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was wondering because I saw this where
Speaker 3: they were talking about companies already filing lawsuits against people.
Speaker 2: Sure that's not like where like, so is there gonna
Speaker 2: be I wonder if there's gonna be like how are
Speaker 2: they gonna regulate this? You know what I mean? Because
Speaker 2: I get that on some like you run a foul
Speaker 2: if you're like selling this music. That's why like a
Speaker 2: lot of mash up type artists who are out there,
Speaker 2: like they just have their shit for free, like on
Speaker 2: the internet that you can just listen to, so that
Speaker 2: way there's no like proceeds that the label can come after.
Speaker 2: But I must also be jarring for like the estate
Speaker 2: of a singer to be like hold on, bro, he
Speaker 2: would never do this, or like I don't want to
Speaker 2: hear I don't. I don't need you to breathe life
Speaker 2: into this artist doing some shit like that. That just
Speaker 2: sounds like weird to me. I don't know. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see, like if if somehow it's really
Speaker 2: about like like the entertainment industry like leaning on like
Speaker 2: like regulators to come up with something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, like the movie industry. They're able to
Speaker 3: use AI and all the CGI stuff to bring people
Speaker 3: who died previously to make new scenes with them, and
Speaker 3: they most of them don't get any money from that,
Speaker 3: right because I don't I thought that because there was
Speaker 3: no mention of that in contracts, So therefore that are
Speaker 3: really not able to not use it, like like they said,
Speaker 3: I know, like the whole Princess Leiah thing was a
Speaker 3: huge controversy because they were able to use her stuff
Speaker 3: and not necessarily pay.
Speaker 2: And didn't pay her.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 3: know that was a huge.
Speaker 2: Conversation about I mean, I would believe that because a
Speaker 2: lot of the like a lot of what we talk
Speaker 2: about as it relates to AI is like it's how
Speaker 2: useful it is to capitalism, right, you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: she did watch this right, and guess who we not paying?
Speaker 3: Jetley specifically Mad Sure his contracts had like you can't
Speaker 3: copy or you reuse my moves for other movies type
Speaker 3: of thing too. Like, so people now are putting it
Speaker 3: into contracts.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, which is really I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: wild to think about, like how like that's how many
Speaker 2: levels ahead you have to get or like steps ahead
Speaker 2: you have to get with these contracts, because yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of contracts you sign when it comes as it
Speaker 2: relates to your like work as an artist or something,
Speaker 2: there's always like imperpetuity across the globe, and like technologies
Speaker 2: that have yet to even be developed. Is like can
Speaker 2: be a thing that's in a is in a contract
Speaker 2: where it's basically saying like, hey, man, if we forget
Speaker 2: a new way to like exploit this thing, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do it and you can't do shit about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I can see how that we're seeing that now.
Speaker 2: I mean, like with the three, like with the hologram stuff.
Speaker 2: I know, like some of those companies are licensing from
Speaker 2: the estate, like with Whitney Houston or other things like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I can as technology gets more sophisticated, I
Speaker 2: can just see how people just go around that.
Speaker 1: We're seeing a bunch of industry leaders in the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks suddenly like raise the alarm and be
Speaker 1: like AI is going to kill us all, which is
Speaker 1: something that theorists have been saying for a while and
Speaker 1: I think for good reason that we'll get into in
Speaker 1: future episodes.
Speaker 2: But I was just.
Speaker 1: Very curious about like where these like what what shifted?
Speaker 1: And I feel like things like this are probably what shifted.
Speaker 1: Where people are making money off of their work in
Speaker 1: a way that isn't like legally, like they can't fully contain,
Speaker 1: and so that's probably where a lot of the emergency
Speaker 1: breaks are coming from, right, But it also feels like
Speaker 1: it's it's out there, so like I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: there is to do other than make that Marvin Gay
Speaker 1: the Weekend album.
Speaker 2: I know. That's like while we're like, yeah, while our
Speaker 2: justice system is completely handed over to algorithms, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: at least we got this ai like Marvin Gay Weekend collab,
Speaker 2: you know, and the Weekend died. What's going on? It's
Speaker 2: actually not as good at all, but at least we
Speaker 2: have that. At least we have that.
Speaker 1: Well, Sam, such a pleasure having you on the Daily
Speaker 1: Geist as always? Where can people find you? Follow you
Speaker 1: all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: You can find me on stuff Mom Never told You,
Speaker 3: the podcast. We are all all the things, including YouTube, TikTok.
Speaker 3: Yeah we're cool kids.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: You can also pre order our book at stuff you
Speaker 3: should read dot com and it's called stuff Mom Never
Speaker 3: told You The Feminist Past, Present and Future, and yes
Speaker 3: we wrote it is coming out in August.
Speaker 2: Yay. Hey, yeah, I'd love to have you back when
Speaker 2: it's out.
Speaker 1: Amazing and is there a work of media that you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now. If you want to follow
Speaker 3: anything on Twitter, you should definitely follow Defend atl Forest,
Speaker 3: which is the conversation we're having about stop Coop City.
Speaker 3: If you don't know, go look it up. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of things happening. And yesterday a lot of votes
Speaker 3: went through with our council and it's all bullshit. So yeah,
Speaker 3: enjoy that.
Speaker 2: Miles.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is the work of
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 2: You can find Jack and I our bast podcast, Miles
Speaker 2: and Jack Got mad? Are we just a couple of
Speaker 2: happy clams right now?
Speaker 1: Want to oh what our teams are doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Fantastic. And a tweet I like relates to what
Speaker 2: I hope would be a few future Laker Damian Lillard
Speaker 2: at Dame Underscore. Lillard tweeted my bad Reeves like that
Speaker 2: in response to Austin Reeves's performance against the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 2: And I said, you know what, Dame, It's okay, It's okay.
Speaker 2: What did he do before? What was this? Like?
Speaker 1: This felt like part of a conversation that I missed
Speaker 1: the first part.
Speaker 2: Of what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Had he said that he he wasn't good?
Speaker 2: Or did he talk shit about Reeves?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I mean to be honest, I
Speaker 2: just saw that, and I was like, yes, exactly, because
Speaker 2: we've been joking that he's got the dog in him,
Speaker 2: but he's really, really, really showing it, really showing it.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably just been I mean again, people
Speaker 2: who are a little more up on like Damian Lillard's tweets,
Speaker 2: because I've missed a lot of Twitter content for the
Speaker 2: many months. I think it's just in general how most
Speaker 2: people feel. Even Lakers fans are like treated him like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But then he has
Speaker 2: these moments where you're like, oh, okay, sir, we were
Speaker 2: not familiar with your game. As a famous Shack quote,
Speaker 2: Gholst all right, uh.
Speaker 1: Some tweet I've been enjoying the work of PJ. Evans
Speaker 1: tweeted removing giant skull candy headphones motion to repeat what
Speaker 1: was just said, you're honor And then also, I'm the
Speaker 1: guy who declares the feels like temperature, it's just vibes.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, yeah, yeah, how how does that? Dude?
Speaker 1: Does do that feel like it could be you and
Speaker 1: your vibes parenting? You know, a vibe parenting parenting vibes Meteorology,
Speaker 1: the sequel.
Speaker 2: From the Harvard from the Harvard University Press this this
Speaker 2: holiday season.
Speaker 1: Making sure you can find me on Twitter at Jack
Speaker 1: Underscore Obrien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our footnotes or we
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy.
Speaker 2: Miles, what's the song that we think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: You're gonna look if you know this show, all we
Speaker 2: do is make references to Wu Tang. So let me
Speaker 2: just give you guys a good old sample. Okay, one
Speaker 2: of the most goaded samples, I believe from the entire
Speaker 2: Wu Tang catalog. This is Willie Mitchell's track Grooven. Okay,
Speaker 2: we know the song Grooving, but this is Willie Mitchell's version.
Speaker 2: And if you listen that opening, you're gonna know exactly
Speaker 2: where that where, that where this sample was used because
Speaker 2: when the MC's came anyway, it's Liquid Swords. So check
Speaker 2: this out. It's a Liquid Swords sample and it's like
Speaker 2: such a small part in the song kind of just
Speaker 2: goes in a completely beginning. Yeah, yeah, the beginning.
Speaker 1: That's one of those things like I've always been like, man,
Speaker 1: they needed to do a whole song with that beginning.
Speaker 2: The whole song. Yeah, people always do like there would
Speaker 2: either be a bridge or like something in the middle
Speaker 2: or the end where they're like, oh, here's all entirely
Speaker 2: new track, which.
Speaker 1: Is so it's so funny because there's something like there's.
Speaker 2: A lot of Algreen tracks like that which become fodder
Speaker 2: for hip hop sampling. Yeah. So anyway, Willie Mitchell Grooven
Speaker 2: and you know, remember uh and that's a minimum femin
Speaker 2: then like sandals as just whatever. We still don't know.
Speaker 2: But I'm rocking these motherfucker sandals. Oh yes, it's the
Speaker 2: dumbest lyric. He's like, it's it's just I will always
Speaker 2: stay in my brain. I remember as a kid, I
Speaker 2: was like, I like sandals. You're talking about it.
Speaker 3: You're a girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well then I'm a girl because watch me rock
Speaker 2: these sandals with my fucking toes out.
Speaker 1: The only masculine thing to wear is Timberland. That's official
Speaker 1: NBA players refusing to play Timberland's as soft. According to
Speaker 1: the ji all right, well, the daily like the production
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