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Speaker 1: Well, Daniel, we are thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat by a classic TDZ guest, a very talented writer,
Speaker 1: stand up comedian, podcast host of The Bechdel Cast, which
Speaker 1: takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time. You
Speaker 1: may have heard of it. She happens to have a
Speaker 1: master's degree in film No Big also happens to have
Speaker 1: the most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending
Speaker 1: on whether you've been given her name and an assortment
Speaker 1: of disorganized scrabble tiles. You might know her as Latin
Speaker 1: dancer Uti nine tit Dracula, but in our hearts she
Speaker 1: will always be the Durantula. Is Caitlin.
Speaker 3: Just happy to be here again. Here's the thing. I
Speaker 3: feel like I've reached critical mass on the anagrams of
Speaker 3: my name. I never thought it would happen, at least
Speaker 3: the ones that I've been able to come up with. Yeah,
Speaker 3: have to thank you, thank you. But I feel like
Speaker 3: I just need to maybe I need to throw my
Speaker 3: middle name in there and then unlock even more opportunities.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. That feels like a cheat code.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we just leave it where
Speaker 1: it is, which is some of the greatest anagrams of
Speaker 1: all time. Thank you, Caitlin.
Speaker 2: Your legacy is untouched. So yeah, truly.
Speaker 1: You're just coming back from the East coast. You are
Speaker 1: on the West coast. Now, how are you feeling? How
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 3: I am doing well. Yeah, I was just traveling. I
Speaker 3: moved into a new apartment and then like three days later,
Speaker 3: I was like, oops, I already had this trip booked,
Speaker 3: so I had to like leave immediately and like I'm
Speaker 3: still you know, things are in disarray, but my apartment's
Speaker 3: slowly coming together, and yeah, I'm great.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we are going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
Speaker 1: to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. We're going to talk about that SpaceX
Speaker 1: launch that happened yesterday morning where they launched a three
Speaker 1: billion dollar rocket. I believe it exploded on launch, like
Speaker 1: within minutes, and then they were like, yeah, we meant
Speaker 1: to do that. So we're just going to talk about that,
Speaker 1: and just some theories around how stupid he Lamos might be.
Speaker 1: McDonald's is trying to get your data by releasing the
Speaker 1: Big Mac sauce, which I didn't Apparently there was a
Speaker 1: mystique around the Big Mac Sauce at some point. I
Speaker 1: was not aware of that number this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's like the special sauce and like what's
Speaker 3: in it?
Speaker 1: I always took that at them, calling it special so
Speaker 1: like a self appointed nickname. Like they were like, this
Speaker 1: is our special sauce, yeah, and everybody wants to know
Speaker 1: what's in it, and we're like no, it's clearly just
Speaker 1: Thousand Island dressing and man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that is what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know it apparently. I think it's
Speaker 1: been around since nineteen sixty eight. I think at a
Speaker 1: certain time people are like, what isn't it? And now
Speaker 1: it's just been Everybody else was able to copy it
Speaker 1: the second they tried, and so everyone's like, it's not
Speaker 1: that special, but they're trying to do that. They released
Speaker 1: packets of their special Sauce Center saying that all you
Speaker 1: have to do is sign up for their app to
Speaker 1: get it. So we'll talk about why companies want you
Speaker 1: to sign up for their app. We might even talk
Speaker 1: about Netflix shutting down it's DVD service and why that
Speaker 1: actually sucks all of that plenty more. But first, Katelyn,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history?
Speaker 3: Okay, I recently googled Claire's ring Watch because I had
Speaker 3: one as a youth. If you're not sure what a
Speaker 3: Claire's ring watch is, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: Claire's the store in the mall that has like, you know,
Speaker 3: jewelry and accessories for like tweens mostly, but I think
Speaker 3: and sometimes I still go in there and I find
Speaker 3: something I like. But this was like the store that
Speaker 3: I would frequent on any mall trip as a tween
Speaker 3: and teen, just you know, regularly, and I had at
Speaker 3: one point, so mood rings were really popular for a while.
Speaker 3: Maybe they are still or again, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: not I still don't quite understand gen Z fashion, and
Speaker 3: I'm like that was something I wore in high school
Speaker 3: and you're doing it again, Okay. So there was this
Speaker 3: ring that you could buy that was like it was
Speaker 3: just a miniature watch, like if you picture like a
Speaker 3: Cassio style watch in your head, it was like that.
Speaker 3: And then it was a.
Speaker 1: Ring besides a ring, yes, so you would.
Speaker 3: Wear it on your finger, and so it was like
Speaker 3: very bulky, right and like not a great ring, but
Speaker 3: it like was a functional watch, so you could like
Speaker 3: tell the time on your little ring watch. And then
Speaker 3: the one I had had a little like the like
Speaker 3: the face of the watch had an alien on it
Speaker 3: because this was back when like alien imagery was very popular,
Speaker 3: I want to say, so the nineteen ninety seven ninety
Speaker 3: eight kind of thing file yeah, yeah, and then the
Speaker 3: and then the alien would change colors depending on my
Speaker 3: mood and it was so accurate.
Speaker 1: Oh my, yeah, it's like the Swiss army wife of trend.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Finger watches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, you know.
Speaker 3: Like psychologically analyzing me. It was telling you the time.
Speaker 3: It was making me so my, you know, my just
Speaker 3: fingers look so cool, like yeah, multid.
Speaker 1: You ever put on your middle finger and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: could you tell me what time it is to someone
Speaker 1: you were mad at?
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good you could do that kind of
Speaker 3: a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I am looking at the pictures. They are I
Speaker 1: don't know what I expected, but they're bulkier. You certainly
Speaker 1: can't get away with wearing multiple on the same man.
Speaker 2: No, maybe not.
Speaker 1: They are massive. They're also shockingly priced at like what
Speaker 1: one from Etsy is thirteen dollars and ninety cents. There's
Speaker 1: another one you can get for three dollars and fifty
Speaker 1: nine cents. This seems like a marvel of technology to me.
Speaker 3: I feeling, I know, and giving them away?
Speaker 1: What is happening?
Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly why I googled it in the
Speaker 3: first place. I think I was just like talking to
Speaker 3: friends and I was like, remember those things that we had,
Speaker 3: and then I googled it to see if you could
Speaker 3: still buy them, and I honestly might get one, even
Speaker 3: though I don't wear any like finger rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, go off. I have to mention.
Speaker 2: I have to mention. At the same time, despite the
Speaker 2: despite the widely available nature, of course, a company like
Speaker 2: Fossil had to take advantage and sells a one hundred
Speaker 2: dollar version as well, which seems was like.
Speaker 1: What that I trust that more than a five dollars version.
Speaker 1: For some reason, my inner capitalist is like, well, it
Speaker 1: must work better because I weard all that money. Go.
Speaker 2: I certainly don't blame you for the trust element, but
Speaker 2: just in terms of the actual electronics needed to make
Speaker 2: this happen to the mechanics, one hundred dollars seems a
Speaker 2: little steep.
Speaker 3: Little, especially if you can find one for three dollars.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Claire's the Claire website, claires dot com sells it for
Speaker 1: a five pound.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's not available in the US.
Speaker 1: So shipping is going to be a real bitch on
Speaker 1: that one. But that's a it's a good look. I
Speaker 1: did not encounter it. It was after my time. Apparently
Speaker 1: I was there for mood rings, and I remember mood
Speaker 1: rings being a thing. My parents were like that ship
Speaker 1: again because I think it was like popular when they
Speaker 1: were kids.
Speaker 3: Also, you were going into Claire's all the time. It's
Speaker 3: just that they hadn't.
Speaker 1: Did they different fashions yet it was early Claire's, you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't there weren't there more jelly bracelets and of
Speaker 1: course just pierced well, telling my mom I was going
Speaker 1: to get my ears pierced, and then running out crying
Speaker 1: because I was too scared. What is something, Kayline? You
Speaker 1: think is overrated?
Speaker 3: So I don't know how much Mario is still in
Speaker 3: the conation that the zeitgeist talking right now? Okay, right,
Speaker 3: Like I saw the movie the other day. I have
Speaker 3: a time. Yeah, of course was that surprising?
Speaker 1: This is surprising that you saw it. I'm just excited
Speaker 1: that you saw it and can report back because I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see it. I'm excited to take my kids
Speaker 1: to see it. I think they'll probably be able to
Speaker 1: make it through. And yeah, but I'm glad to get
Speaker 1: a good review. You did recommend one of a movie
Speaker 1: they really enjoyed. They haven't asked to rewatch it. But
Speaker 1: Paddington too, off the strength of your recommendation. That was
Speaker 1: like the one of the first movies I showed them
Speaker 1: when they got interested in movies.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel honored and just just sneak
Speaker 3: it in again, maybe like a year or two down
Speaker 3: the road, and then I think they'll be old enough
Speaker 3: that they're like, this is the best movie ever made.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what happened was that I just showed
Speaker 1: them one of the best movies ever made, and then
Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, so this is what movies are.
Speaker 1: No big whoop, And now I need to show it
Speaker 1: to them again after they've seen both Sonic and Sonic
Speaker 1: two exactly, Sonic to one of the worst movies I've
Speaker 1: ever seen.
Speaker 3: So missed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that I'm returning the favor. You don't have
Speaker 1: to see Sonic too.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for.
Speaker 1: Mario looks fun, and Mario and I had fun.
Speaker 3: It's not going to revolutionize cinema, but I had a
Speaker 3: fun time as I was watching it. But both my
Speaker 3: overrated and underrated items for today are Mario related. What
Speaker 3: I think is overrated is Smash Brothers. People are like, oh,
Speaker 3: do you want to play Smash Let's just and it's
Speaker 3: just like, for what, what are we doing? What's the objective?
Speaker 3: There's no skill involved. I don't like button mash games
Speaker 3: like that. I find it very frustrating. I want some skill.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just that I lose every time and I'm
Speaker 3: bad at it, and that's why.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: But I find it a very frustrating game.
Speaker 2: Super but you're brothers. It is an incredibly frustrating game
Speaker 2: that I too, have never been good at ever as
Speaker 2: an avid, lifelong gamer. Yeah, never good at Smashed was
Speaker 2: never my forte though I do recognize that there are
Speaker 2: people who are quite good at it, and I feel
Speaker 2: like they're the ones that always want to play yes,
Speaker 2: because it's like, hey, let's do this thing that I'm
Speaker 2: exceptionally good at. It's like, I don't.
Speaker 3: It's like, congratulations for finding the one thing in the
Speaker 3: entire world that you're good at, which is Smash, but
Speaker 3: don't bring me into it.
Speaker 2: I feel there's saying it's a similar vibe with Mario
Speaker 2: Kart as well, Like anybody who's played Mario Kart from
Speaker 2: like every version, they're like, hey, let's just play some
Speaker 2: Mario Kart, and it's like, oh, of course, I remember,
Speaker 2: you know Mario Kart sixty four. Maybe you played a
Speaker 2: little double dash like I remember that from my childhood.
Speaker 2: And then someone just like busts out the pro switch
Speaker 2: controller and is like, oh, you're toasted, And it's like
Speaker 2: I thought I just wanted to drive around. I didn't
Speaker 2: know it was gonna be a whole thing.
Speaker 1: What about jacks? What about marbles? Right? That's what I
Speaker 1: invite people to play when they come over to must Use.
Speaker 2: It's not the Mancala board.
Speaker 1: What happened to that? I come on, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To move some pieces of glass around.
Speaker 1: That's what you're underrage, is right.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to jump on your under it clearly
Speaker 1: jacks and marbles? Right, all right?
Speaker 3: What is your oh short story? It is Super Mario Brothers,
Speaker 3: the movie from nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing is it has a horrible reputation. People
Speaker 3: are like it is one of the worst movies ever made.
Speaker 3: We recently did an episode on it on the Bechdel
Speaker 3: Cast and I got a chance to rewatch it and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's why why do people think
Speaker 3: this is so terrible? Like, sure, it's not again going
Speaker 3: to revolutionize cinema, but maybe not. It is so fun.
Speaker 3: It's funny. You've got John Logan, Legzamo and Bob Hoskins
Speaker 3: and a bunch of other fun side characters. It's I
Speaker 3: would play in the he is and he plays Koopa
Speaker 3: the villain.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's a lot. That is a lot of
Speaker 1: tasty for children. Right, Maybe it just missed. It's like
Speaker 1: my impression of that, and I've never seen it, but
Speaker 1: my impression of it is always that it did seem
Speaker 1: seem like it aimed to revolutionize cinema a little like
Speaker 1: it went like in a weird direction.
Speaker 3: So weird, it's very bizarre. But I would put it
Speaker 3: in the same camp as like the live action Ninja
Speaker 3: Turtles movies of the nineties, or like the Power Rangers movie.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's the same quality and vibe. So it's
Speaker 3: goofa camp camp. It's it's exact the camp camp.
Speaker 1: I loved it, Thank you. I appreciate that this is big.
Speaker 1: This has been a big show for me.
Speaker 3: We can end it early, guys later, So yeah, Mario's
Speaker 3: Mario nineteen ninety three is a boatload of fun.
Speaker 1: Did it? Pressage nine to eleven is I'm told the
Speaker 1: Twin Towers disappear in it. Oh you know what? And
Speaker 1: also a small chunk of the Pentagon just disappeared, just
Speaker 1: like a small one. No, that's not true.
Speaker 3: I know that they're digging for dinosaur bones in Lower
Speaker 3: Manhattan at some point. I don't know if it's where
Speaker 3: the two Towers are supposed to be the Twin Towers.
Speaker 3: What is two towers? That's a Lord of the Rings movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Also Pressage, everything was telling, so I don't know how
Speaker 1: we missed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I that to answer your question, Jack, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It wasn't something that struck you.
Speaker 3: No, I was not paying attention. I guess I don't
Speaker 3: always attention to the intricacies of a New York Skyline
Speaker 3: and the movies I'm watching right.
Speaker 1: The fact that Hoskins they took two huge sweat Hoskins
Speaker 1: was the lead in who framed Roger Rabbit and the
Speaker 1: Mario Brothers movie. Like true, truly, like what was happening
Speaker 1: in the like I'm I'm here for it. I love it,
Speaker 1: but like just if you ever want to be like,
Speaker 1: we are not the same, like you people who grow
Speaker 1: up in today's era and people who grew up at
Speaker 1: that time, we are not the same. This was our
Speaker 1: leading man for the Mario Brothers movie Yours is a cartoon,
Speaker 1: and they still had to get like a ripped jacked,
Speaker 1: a guy named Chris who golfs with his pastor.
Speaker 2: We were just we were just down to have schlubby
Speaker 2: dudes be the leads and stuff and honestly relatable. We
Speaker 2: need more schlubby looking people compared in in things in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always talk about this, but there's this like
Speaker 1: raisin brand commercial from the early eighties that I like.
Speaker 1: When I was making my old YouTube show the spit Take,
Speaker 1: I happened upon and it's like the the premise is
Speaker 1: like the brand flakes and the Raisins are personified by
Speaker 1: a singing group. And the singing group it all happened
Speaker 1: to be men who look like Bob Hoskins. They I
Speaker 1: guess they just like they were like, oh, I know,
Speaker 1: a singing group. It's like this a cappella group of
Speaker 1: police retired police sergeants or something. Because that and it's
Speaker 1: just what a time to be alive. Just all media
Speaker 1: Harry so great? Yeah, and now what is it?
Speaker 2: And now what you know. Also, speaking of the Mario movie,
Speaker 2: do you think it would have I mean, I think
Speaker 2: we look at it now, and I think, Caitlin, I
Speaker 2: think you're look at it. The long look is very correct.
Speaker 2: It's like, what's so bad about that movie? Would it
Speaker 2: have been received better if it was the gritty reboot
Speaker 2: to the Mario movie we have now, Like if we
Speaker 2: were able to have that movie after the existence of
Speaker 2: a already you know, ma like enough Mario like movie
Speaker 2: that people are like, we have that part covered now,
Speaker 2: we need give me the grit, give me the Mario. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I better so.
Speaker 3: And I think one of the reasons it was received
Speaker 3: so poorly at the time is that and like the
Speaker 3: people who wrote the script and directed the movie, like
Speaker 3: will be the first to admit this, I think, but
Speaker 3: it kind of has nothing to do with Mario. Like
Speaker 3: there is some vague iconography from the like established brand
Speaker 3: of Mario in this movie, but like barely any And
Speaker 3: there's also some like familiar characters and just like things
Speaker 3: like Mario and Luigi are plumbers. But the so the
Speaker 3: conceit of the movie was like like Nintendo was like
Speaker 3: the Mario brand is so strong that we don't even
Speaker 3: need the Mario movie to it can be whatever, Like
Speaker 3: we don't even really care, and like, sure, take some
Speaker 3: creative liberties with it, because our brand is so strong
Speaker 3: that it's not going to affect anything. So the filmmakers
Speaker 3: made some really wild swings, right with like the story
Speaker 3: and the characters, like Toad is this like punk guy,
Speaker 3: but who's also like playing acoustic guitar and playing harmonica and.
Speaker 1: Like just like weird things.
Speaker 3: Yea, and the the goombazz in this movie are not
Speaker 3: the little mushroom guys that hop around. They are reptilian
Speaker 3: people with tiny heads, and so they're more like about
Speaker 3: like Coopa is the turtle guy, right, and then there's
Speaker 3: Bowser it was also a turtle, and then so but
Speaker 3: Coopa in this version is a dinosaur. And it's just
Speaker 3: like they just took really wild creative choices, and I
Speaker 3: think people were just like, what, this isn't the Mario
Speaker 3: that I know and love.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 3: So I think that's why everyone thought it was so bad,
Speaker 3: just because it wasn't. It deviated too far from the
Speaker 3: source material. But if you're able to separate yourself from
Speaker 3: that and you're just watching it knowing that it's like
Speaker 3: a goofy nineties kids ish movie. It's an extremely goofy
Speaker 3: movie the sequel exactly.
Speaker 1: So. I feel like a lot of early comic book
Speaker 1: movies and video game movies were directed like by people
Speaker 1: who were embarrassed to be directing them, and that was
Speaker 1: like the primary thing that you need to understand going
Speaker 1: into those movies is like, well, this is fucking stupid. Right,
Speaker 1: we can all agree this is stupid. So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna crank this out and be done with it, or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it completely different and an adult movie
Speaker 1: that would scare teenagers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we are nearing the time when video
Speaker 2: game movies will be taken fully seriously. I think I
Speaker 2: think we're getting close to that oh where movies is there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we take whoever won the PALMDA or and
Speaker 1: we're like, you get the next Jurassic Park movie, and
Speaker 1: they're like, thank you, sir, yes, daddy.
Speaker 2: Here's a sliver of the.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a problem anymore, but I do
Speaker 1: think it's lost on people. I think people are like,
Speaker 1: why did they make it so shitty? It's like because
Speaker 1: they were adults and they were embarrassed and everything was
Speaker 1: about being an adult back then, like there was a
Speaker 1: different time. All right, let's take a quick break, we'll
Speaker 1: come back, we'll talk about the ultimate adult. Elon Musk
Speaker 1: will be right now, and we're back, and let's talk
Speaker 1: about SpaceX. Let's talk about so their Starship rocket. They
Speaker 1: successfully launched the largest heaviest rocket ever launched. It really
Speaker 1: looked like it was like groaning as it was like
Speaker 1: getting off the ground. Truly. Yeah, it looked heavy as
Speaker 1: it was launching, and it immediately blew up. And so
Speaker 1: the immediate spin that came off of this was that
Speaker 1: SpaceX knew that the test flight might fail. Employees even
Speaker 1: cheered as the fucking thing blew up. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, well, maybe that's just
Speaker 1: the best you can hope for when you work for
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. But it felt like very culty to me,
Speaker 1: Like the thing a three billion dollar spaceship explodes and
Speaker 1: they're all like, yay, we're all so happy here even
Speaker 1: when things don't go according to plan. We've programmed all
Speaker 1: negative emotions out. We're just like, I'm just psyched to
Speaker 1: be here. I'm psyched you're here with me. We think
Speaker 1: you're gonna love our leader. Have you met him? Have
Speaker 1: you met Elon?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much. You win some, you learn some, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: But and and also the other little detail that everyone's
Speaker 1: putting on it, like the major components are designed to
Speaker 1: be reused, so this is no problem, right, but like
Speaker 1: there's no details on or like footage of the things
Speaker 1: that exploded like safely landing back on Earth, and in
Speaker 1: fact there is.
Speaker 3: It's usually not what happened.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's say, well, usually explode and then disintegrade
Speaker 2: and spread all over the place.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Like the major components being
Speaker 1: designed to be reused doesn't seem to apply here. But
Speaker 1: that is like something that they're like, yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: actually no big deal. You know, this is reusable. We
Speaker 1: knew it was going to probably explode. It was three
Speaker 1: billion dollars. But that's actually not a big deal to us.
Speaker 1: It's the components can't be indestructible.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 3: Otherwise it wouldn't have exploded.
Speaker 1: Right, It's a really good point.
Speaker 2: I just want to know. I mean, I have to
Speaker 2: have to get to read into this little bit more,
Speaker 2: but I know that you know, the two major parts
Speaker 2: were the actual shuttle itself and then the Falcon heavy
Speaker 2: which is what's lifting it up off the ground, and
Speaker 2: that thing doesn't usually explode. But if both parts exploded,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, yeah, I don't think you're getting any
Speaker 2: of that back unless it detached and then that part exploded.
Speaker 1: But right, okay, maybe it was like a thing that
Speaker 1: had already been detached. But it was four minutes. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that much time after it was lunch. It wasn't
Speaker 1: didn't seem like much went according to plan. There's also
Speaker 1: like footage from the ground and like pieces of debris
Speaker 1: are just like flying off and like destroying cars that
Speaker 1: are there. I'm sure if anyone got hurt by any
Speaker 1: of this, they were just like you know, buried immediately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: while everyone was cheering, he is being taken to the planet,
Speaker 1: the afterlife planet that Elon will take us all to.
Speaker 1: There's a video, a great video of a minivan just
Speaker 1: getting completely wrecked by a piece of debris coming off
Speaker 1: of this as like smoke just shrouds every think if
Speaker 1: only it had been a cyber truck, but it's I
Speaker 1: don't know. They tried to frame it as a test flight.
Speaker 1: Looked like it went really bad. They called it a
Speaker 1: rapid unscheduled disassembly. This is their tweet as if a
Speaker 1: flight test was not exciting enough, Starship experienced a rapid
Speaker 1: unscheduled disassembly before stage separation.
Speaker 3: Now that is some pr That is some really, I mean,
Speaker 3: talk about taking creative liberties with language.
Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. It's a So this is my question,
Speaker 1: Like there's a scenario that I've been like, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people have probably been kicking around their
Speaker 1: head that like seems like it can't be true because
Speaker 1: it's like just a little too pat and cute. But
Speaker 1: it's also like every day I feel like it seems
Speaker 1: less and less far fetched. You know the episode thirty
Speaker 1: Rock the Bubble with John Hamm where he's like a
Speaker 1: handsome doctor yeah and former tennis coach and Liz discovers
Speaker 1: like he can't even perform the him like maneuver or
Speaker 1: play tennis and like everything. He's just like he rides
Speaker 1: a motorcycle, but he like can't even like ride it.
Speaker 1: He just like crashes into everything because he lives in
Speaker 1: the bubble, like a protective barrier of goodwill that follows
Speaker 1: him around because he's so handsome.
Speaker 3: Everyone just he's they've got he's got yes men all
Speaker 3: around him.
Speaker 1: Exactly, And obviously that is not what's happening with Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: because he looks like he's had the dark Side working
Speaker 1: on him for the past ten years. Like he looks
Speaker 1: like he's like one fifth of the way to what
Speaker 1: Darth Vader looks like under the mask at the end
Speaker 1: of Return of the Jedi. But I think the fifth
Speaker 1: the poetry. I think it's like a combination of we
Speaker 1: we need Like I think our part in it is
Speaker 1: we needed a Tony Stark, like we as all these
Speaker 1: things were like sort of accumulating it, like climate change
Speaker 1: is going to end the world, and we needed a
Speaker 1: Tony Stark to replace Steve Jobs, and we needed like
Speaker 1: somebody and we wanted them to have like answers to
Speaker 1: climate change and stuff, and we needed it so bad
Speaker 1: we just like grafted it onto Elon Musk. We were
Speaker 1: just like, that is Tony Stark, and we're going to
Speaker 1: run with that. Like that. I think that's a small
Speaker 1: part of it, Like people wanted to believe it at first,
Speaker 1: and then from a structural perspective, you just have a
Speaker 1: media that is run by billionaires, and like the day
Speaker 1: to day people are mostly people who went to like
Speaker 1: Ivy League schools with the children of millionaires or themselves
Speaker 1: or the children of millionaires, and like you know, they
Speaker 1: all are super interested in holding on to the idea
Speaker 1: that like our world is a meritocracy, and so elon
Speaker 1: Musk being an idiot while being the richest man in
Speaker 1: the world, like is a fatal wound for that myth.
Speaker 1: And so I just think that he there's a lot
Speaker 1: of these structural factors that have been leaving him in
Speaker 1: this bubble for a long time. And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people started talking about this when Twitter, when
Speaker 1: he was just like so bad at running Twitter, like
Speaker 1: just so making decisions that everyone could have told you
Speaker 1: were like bad. But like now we're seeing SpaceX like
Speaker 1: just be a complete disaster, and I think people are like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't see you like launching rockets or anything. It's
Speaker 1: like he's not doing that shit either. He's just a
Speaker 1: like figurehead cheerleader who has bad ideas, like he like
Speaker 1: the have launching a three billion dollar rocket and being like,
Speaker 1: but we don't care if it explodes is a bad idea.
Speaker 1: It could hurt people what's.
Speaker 3: The Jeff Goldbloom quote from Jurassic Park where he's like,
Speaker 3: you guys were so wrapped up and think of figuring
Speaker 3: out whether or not you could that you didn't stop
Speaker 3: to think if you should something.
Speaker 2: Nailed it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 3: I have a master's degree in movie.
Speaker 1: And that was your thesis was just quoting dialogue of
Speaker 1: the movie. You start to have a master's in movie quotes.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 2: That's your dissertation. And the last question is can you
Speaker 2: remember that one thing?
Speaker 1: Jeff?
Speaker 3: And then I was like, oh wait, what is it?
Speaker 3: And then blah blah blah, and then the crowd goes wild.
Speaker 1: The crowd goes wow.
Speaker 3: Also, not to bring up Titanic, but I feel like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Titanic parallels here where it's like
Speaker 3: Titanic was being built. Everyone's like, it's the largest moving
Speaker 3: object ever created by man. It's so awesome that we
Speaker 3: you know, isn't it so cool that it's huge, it's
Speaker 3: one hundred feet longer than the Martinia and far more luxurious.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. And then what does it do? It
Speaker 3: crashes into an iceberg.
Speaker 1: Because on latch on the Maiden Journey motherfucking voice.
Speaker 3: As Bill Paxton points out in the movie the the
Speaker 3: ship doesn't corner worth a damn. It's too big with
Speaker 3: too small a rudders and it can't turn and hit
Speaker 3: like avoid the iceberg time. It's the same thing with this.
Speaker 1: You're so busy, that's my other he could his character
Speaker 1: has like such a just like gnar bro voice, and
Speaker 1: that it always takes me back. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy is the bookend of the of the film,
Speaker 1: just a treasure hunter Man.
Speaker 3: One of his more toned down performances, Bill Paxson is
Speaker 3: usually screaming at the top of his lunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah truly, But yeah, I don't know, do you guys
Speaker 1: think he's like because even people who criticize him are like,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's a genius. He just sent me
Speaker 1: a poop emoji for asking why he didn't think to
Speaker 1: hire a custodial staff for his workforce. Obviously he's a genius.
Speaker 1: But he's making some questionable moves here, and it's our
Speaker 1: job to figure out how this is. For d chess, Like,
Speaker 1: is there any chance that he's just an idiot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it seems it seems like it might be
Speaker 1: like it seems weird to be to be like all
Speaker 1: these people who entrusted him with all this money were wrong,
Speaker 1: but they are all like so steeped in this myth
Speaker 1: building of like the genius billionaire. And I just think
Speaker 1: we talked about like Hitler in World War Two, like
Speaker 1: a lot of like retroactive history wants to make him
Speaker 1: into an evil genius, but he there's a lot of
Speaker 1: evidence that he was just an idiot who was at
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time, Like he like
Speaker 1: slept in. He's like on heroin and speed and like
Speaker 1: slept it until noon every day and.
Speaker 3: Was just sorry, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But it's like why the d Day of Vasion
Speaker 1: it worked was because they didn't want to wake Hitler up.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's just it's not infitting with
Speaker 1: the myth that they wanted for him, but like history
Speaker 1: almost needed this evil genius character, so they like invented
Speaker 1: it around this dipshit. I'm just wondering if we're like
Speaker 1: seeing a similar thing happen with Elon Muskk, where just
Speaker 1: we will persistently try to make him into a like
Speaker 1: at least a misguided genius and it's just I don't
Speaker 1: think that's what it is. At this point.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna break k fab here for a second.
Speaker 2: And because Elon Musk is undoubtedly a dip shit, but
Speaker 2: I do think what SpaceX as a as an organization
Speaker 2: or as a company is doing is is mind blowing
Speaker 2: and incredibly important. And while I do think, like, you know,
Speaker 2: the celebrating for these tests, I think that is kind
Speaker 2: of like, you know, participating in the cult of worship
Speaker 2: of Elon and being like, oh, it's all good, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, is a little bit like whatever, you guys,
Speaker 2: aren't really that thrill that you just blew three billion dollars.
Speaker 2: I do think that the fact that this company that
Speaker 2: he just happens to be, I don't even is he
Speaker 2: Is he the CEO or is he just on the
Speaker 2: board of director. I don't even know what the deal is.
Speaker 2: He just put a bunch of money into it. But
Speaker 2: the fact is it's like that they invented these these
Speaker 2: thrust rockets that get stuff off the ground into space
Speaker 2: and land back down. Is sci fi? Is actual fucking
Speaker 2: sci fi That is amazing, Yeah, and and will change.
Speaker 2: Is space Traveled forever. So yes, I am breaking KFA
Speaker 2: here by celebrating SpaceX. It's true, but like he is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of dipshit, and SpaceX succeeds in spite
Speaker 2: of him. I think what they do is awesome, and
Speaker 2: I think what they are bringing to spaceflight is incredible,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that he is such a piece of shit,
Speaker 2: asshole that sucks, sucks shit, He's whacked.
Speaker 1: Can we live for a drop? Whack? He's shit, just
Speaker 1: that whole run by Dan Oldre. Yeah, No, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like that's the That's the thing that's confusing to me
Speaker 1: is that he is at the front of these companies
Speaker 1: that are doing interesting things, and in case of SpaceX,
Speaker 1: may be very important things. But he seems to be
Speaker 1: so persistently just such a dip shit, and I, like,
Speaker 1: I guess I had always assumed, like, yeah, he he
Speaker 1: a misguided, dipshit genius something like he has a genius
Speaker 1: in a certain area. But I the idea that history
Speaker 1: just sometimes needs someone for a role and the person
Speaker 1: just like goes along with it and they just like
Speaker 1: keep failing upwards is I don't know, when you look
Speaker 1: at how hit like there's the great man theory of
Speaker 1: history where it's like these great men have these ideas
Speaker 1: and they like changed everything and then but if you
Speaker 1: actually look at it, it's like sometimes it's just a
Speaker 1: dipshit getting swept into a very specific lane that they
Speaker 1: needed them to fill.
Speaker 2: I think that is very particularly the case here with
Speaker 2: Elon because like again, PayPal, Tesla, and SpaceX all companies
Speaker 2: none of which he invented or even came up with
Speaker 2: the ideas for. They're just things that he invested into
Speaker 2: the point that he has ownership. Like it's not like
Speaker 2: he's the genius. He's just the face of them because
Speaker 2: he had the money to put into them. And the
Speaker 2: only genius is that he looked at them and said,
Speaker 2: oh this is cool. Yeah, this is a good thing
Speaker 2: to invest in and for sure, and like that's not
Speaker 2: wrong totally. That's a good place to put your money,
Speaker 2: for sure, and they are important things despite the you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, the cyber truck is a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: The quality control on Teslas are absolutely awful, but like
Speaker 2: the Tesla batteries are cool, the the rockets are awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Paypals old whatever, But like he put his money in
Speaker 2: the right place. But that's it like all he is
Speaker 2: is the money and unfortunately now the face of these companies,
Speaker 2: so that that sucks.
Speaker 1: I think every billionaire is very skilled at being a
Speaker 1: predatory opportunist like that is, and that is basically all
Speaker 1: it takes to be a billionaire is like being a
Speaker 1: very skilled opportunistic pres right, Like he just sees an
Speaker 1: opportunity to make more money, expend their money, triple their
Speaker 1: money at like an exponential rate, and just pounds and
Speaker 1: pounds and pounds and pounds. So I definitely I don't
Speaker 1: doubt that he has a genius for doing that, as
Speaker 1: does every other billionaire. It's just a very boring genius
Speaker 1: like type of genius that I think only gets treated
Speaker 1: treated something that we're willing to linize because they are
Speaker 1: in control of all the media at brands.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that part sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pp pooh pooh, my friend Jamie, all right, let's
Speaker 3: take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And so is McDonald's, do you guys,
Speaker 1: McDonald They did it.
Speaker 2: They did it.
Speaker 1: So this this is being treated as in some corners,
Speaker 1: probably just in places that are willing to regurgitate a
Speaker 1: McDonald's press release, but and be like this is a
Speaker 1: news story because we fired our entire newsroom. But there
Speaker 1: so McDonald's is soon going to offer. This is being
Speaker 1: treated like now you can get breakfast all day from McDonald's,
Speaker 1: which was like huge news for everyone, Like that news
Speaker 1: story was underrated, like the when McDonald's went to changing
Speaker 1: so that you can get McDonald's breakfast every all day,
Speaker 1: every day, Like yeah, we that that should have been
Speaker 1: a national holiday, big things, but this is this is bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say they're they're going to offer individual
Speaker 1: packets a big mac sauce for McNuggets or just to
Speaker 1: accumulate and then bathe in. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: ultimate goal is here.
Speaker 2: You're spoiling my future YouTube content here, Jack.
Speaker 3: Again, I ask, what's the matter with that?
Speaker 1: But you you have to order it through the app app,
Speaker 1: which means that this is all about forcing customers to
Speaker 1: download the app and get access to more data because
Speaker 1: the entire like all these companies are like we're yes,
Speaker 1: you know when when they get behind closed doors and
Speaker 1: talk to investors, everything from like credit card companies to
Speaker 1: you know, streaming companies, that they're all like, we're actually
Speaker 1: data companies. That's what we do. We know everything about
Speaker 1: customers and we make marketing to them easier. So anyways,
Speaker 1: I don't know that this doesn't I can't imagine. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't like mentally come up with the person who
Speaker 1: is excited about getting access to Big Back sauce or
Speaker 1: am I in the room with one of those people? First?
Speaker 1: Ask is one of.
Speaker 2: Them present personally?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But Kaitlin, No, No, I mean I.
Speaker 3: I don't eat really much meat anymore and definitely not
Speaker 3: many mammals.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: My diet is confusing. It's like I eat a mostly
Speaker 3: plant based diet, but sometimes I have meat cheat days,
Speaker 3: just sort of like the Fifth Sifth and the Camp Camp.
Speaker 3: I love a good wordplace meat cheat. I love it,
Speaker 3: so I have my meat cheat days. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: but I used to love Big Max and I got
Speaker 3: to say their sauce is tasty. But I'm not going
Speaker 3: to go out of my way to go get some.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not here to say that the Big Max
Speaker 1: sauce is not tasty or Big Max are not one
Speaker 1: of the great sandwiches. I'm just when you have a
Speaker 1: Big Mac copycat, it is the sauce is identical, like
Speaker 1: it ketchup, Like there's only really a couple of good ketchups,
Speaker 1: and like, for whatever reason, they can't like nail ketch
Speaker 1: up other than like Hines and McDonald's does a pretty
Speaker 1: good job with their proprietary ketchup, but Big Max everybody's
Speaker 1: figured out and so like it's just doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: a thing to me personally, but also.
Speaker 2: Just feels like a little bit like late in the
Speaker 2: sauce game for it to be the thing that you're
Speaker 2: offering when it's like every other burger place has been
Speaker 2: giving away that kind of sauce forever. Yeah, it's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, the Thousand Island substitutes have been out there
Speaker 2: for generations, and the it's like, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: of course the Big Mac is unique, and the Big
Speaker 2: Mac sauce, it's like that's always been the thing. But
Speaker 2: it's it's just like it feels so late to the
Speaker 2: game to be like, and here's here's a sauce we're
Speaker 2: offering for the first time. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just everybody, but.
Speaker 1: It's twenty twelve, thank you, thank you, Hello.
Speaker 2: But I will say that you know, incentivizing people to
Speaker 2: use an app has got to be the easiest thing
Speaker 2: to do these days, because people just want to check
Speaker 2: in on a thing and click a button and watch
Speaker 2: number go up until the point that it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I get a free thing. Now. It's like the Starbucks
Speaker 2: app is toxic. It is toxic at being so good
Speaker 2: at getting me to buy more coffee so that line
Speaker 2: go up till I have one hundred and fifty stars
Speaker 2: and I can get a free latte.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like the Starbucks app was engineered by
Speaker 1: the same people who made Candy Crush.
Speaker 2: It's just like you quite live, it's fucked up.
Speaker 3: If you gamify something, it makes it. Yeah, the accountability
Speaker 3: and inspiration and motivation, all that stuff. The AMC app
Speaker 3: where it's like, if you spend more money on snacks,
Speaker 3: you get five dollars in which will buy you like
Speaker 3: half of a hot dog. But I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: need more popcorn so I can get a five dollars reward.
Speaker 1: Yes please, I mean, if it fits.
Speaker 2: It's the fuck the thing where it's like we have
Speaker 2: found a way to monetize every part of our lives
Speaker 2: to the point that ah say, rather the companies have
Speaker 2: found ways too monetize our habits such that like I'm
Speaker 2: already going to the movies, or I'm already going to Starbucks,
Speaker 2: or I'm already going to McDonald's or something like that.
Speaker 2: Why not just make it a little bit sweeter of
Speaker 2: a deal. And so I think maybe, while it might
Speaker 2: not encourage new people to download the app, because I
Speaker 2: think all of us here are like, who gives a shit,
Speaker 2: people who are already using the app are now using
Speaker 2: it more being like, oh they added another deal. Well,
Speaker 2: la di da ding ding ding ding ding.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I've been on the McDonald's app for
Speaker 1: most of this recording, just checking out, just refreshing, seeing
Speaker 1: what's what's new, what the drive through wait time is
Speaker 1: at my three closest McDonald's.
Speaker 2: But placing orders of different stories, just getting them ready
Speaker 2: for later.
Speaker 1: Talking about like meat free and big Max that like
Speaker 1: that seems like the easiest beyond collaborate. I don't know
Speaker 1: have they done that the beyond Burger they did.
Speaker 2: They did the mc which was their plant based, plant
Speaker 2: based patty, which they did for a little while, but
Speaker 2: they didn't do it as a big Mac, right, No,
Speaker 2: they did not, well, they also just discontinued. It wasn't
Speaker 2: very popular.
Speaker 1: The big Mac Patty gets lost, and they they could
Speaker 1: like be selling Beyond Patty's in Big Max for a
Speaker 1: year and not tell anyone and everyone probably be like yop.
Speaker 2: So that's what they need to be doing exactly.
Speaker 1: So that this is my free advice to McDonald's, all right,
Speaker 1: and then some free advice for Netflix. Don't shut down
Speaker 1: your DVD service. I just remembered you had it now
Speaker 1: that you're shutting it down, and I want to use
Speaker 1: it again. This is if this was if this was
Speaker 1: like a marketing scheme to be like, our DVD subscriber
Speaker 1: numbers have dropped too low. Let's pretend we're taking it away.
Speaker 1: It has succeeded because I like they so they they've
Speaker 1: announced that they're shutting down their DVD by mail business
Speaker 1: after twenty five years the DVD The Netflix DVD library
Speaker 1: was one of a kind, like over one hundred thousand titles,
Speaker 1: so many films that just like are not available to
Speaker 1: stream anywhere, definitely not on Netflix. Netflix, by the way,
Speaker 1: has I think a total of thirty eight movies older
Speaker 1: than the year nineteen eighty and like ninety two older
Speaker 1: than the year nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Right, so which a lot?
Speaker 1: Yeah, are there even ninety movies before nineteen ninety I
Speaker 1: actually don't know. I thought that's when they started making them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But this is like I feel like I, you know,
Speaker 1: made the switch from doing the DVD thing when I,
Speaker 1: you know, stopped having a DVD player and when Netflix
Speaker 1: still had most things that I wanted to watch, and
Speaker 1: then as the streaming wars have kicked off, and like
Speaker 1: now you have to subscribe to like five different services
Speaker 1: to still have access to all the movies that you
Speaker 1: want to you used to be able to get like
Speaker 1: on Netflix. I feel like it's they I would I
Speaker 1: would go back to the DVD thing now.
Speaker 3: Well two things I don't know. I have to preface
Speaker 3: this that way, but I have a very a long
Speaker 3: relationship with Netflix DVDs where I started getting them like
Speaker 3: two or three years before anyone else I knew was
Speaker 3: getting them. I think I started flex uh receiving Yeah,
Speaker 3: major brag. I liked it before it was cool, I
Speaker 3: think two thousand and four because I was like, I
Speaker 3: was a freshman in film school that year, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I need to watch movies all the time.
Speaker 3: So I like heard about it, and everyone's like, what's
Speaker 3: this new Netflix thing? And I was getting my three
Speaker 3: DVDs at a time and I was cycle through them,
Speaker 3: really making it worth it. And then I had Netflix
Speaker 3: DVDs long before DVDs were a medium that anyone was using.
Speaker 3: So because you still can get a bunch of stuff
Speaker 3: that you couldn't have access to streaming. And nowadays, if
Speaker 3: something isn't on a platform to stream for free on
Speaker 3: the subscription that you have, you can still rent most
Speaker 3: things for like whatever four bucks on YouTuber, Amazon or
Speaker 3: something like that. But there are enough things such as
Speaker 3: the Super Mario Brothers movie nineteen ninety three, that does
Speaker 3: not exit. It's been scrubbed from the Internet. You cannot
Speaker 3: rent it, by it, stream it. It just does not exist.
Speaker 1: Want to do with a movie that predicted nine to eleven?
Speaker 3: Exactly erase the evidence, but I would hazard a guess
Speaker 3: that that movie is available to like whatever, borrow or
Speaker 3: rent from Netflix DVDs. Same thing with Jamie and I
Speaker 3: and a guest. We're going to do an episode on
Speaker 3: the movie two hundred cigarettes doesn't exist anywhere. I can't
Speaker 3: rent it, can't buy it, can't stream it. You cannot
Speaker 3: do that with Crossroads there and other movies Crossroads, you know,
Speaker 3: the Britney Spears class. Whoa wow, So you know at
Speaker 3: least those three movies and probably why why did it
Speaker 3: get scrubbed?
Speaker 2: That's then.
Speaker 3: But anyway, all this to say, I no longer have
Speaker 3: Netflix DVD's, but I kind of wish I did sometimes
Speaker 3: because there's things that I don't want to, like rent
Speaker 3: for four bucks. Like I had to rent Sausage Party
Speaker 3: because Jamie and I did an upcoming episode on it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't want anyone to have money
Speaker 3: from this movie. It's the worst movie I've ever seen,
Speaker 3: but I had to pay four dollars from it. I
Speaker 3: would rather just like play, pay like a lump subscription
Speaker 3: fee for something and then not feel like I have
Speaker 3: spent money on Sausage Party.
Speaker 2: That was a weird way to say the best movie
Speaker 2: you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: I miss Sorry. I just opened an old notebook from
Speaker 1: the early two thousands that I just had in my
Speaker 1: closet and I had a Netflix DVD there, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah that they are never getting back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did like pay for I remember paying for it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm being responsible and you know that
Speaker 1: they're Otherwise they would have been like charging me monthly
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 2: Rest of it, very honestly. So yeah, well, at least
Speaker 2: at least we know it's not your fault that that
Speaker 2: that is going out of business. You paid your dues.
Speaker 2: Physical media. I mean this video game I really like
Speaker 2: called Death Stranding, where the entire thing is about we
Speaker 2: live in this post apocalyptic world where now people are
Speaker 2: like desperate for physical media, and this game has like
Speaker 2: quote unquote predicted so many things about like it came
Speaker 2: out before the pandemic and how everybody was stuck inside
Speaker 2: and the only thing that was available to do outside
Speaker 2: was be a delivery person and that felt so true.
Speaker 2: And the fact that they're delivering physical media and now
Speaker 2: we're in a time where physical media is just slowly disintegrating,
Speaker 2: it just feels too I don't know, it feels very sad.
Speaker 2: It feels very apocalyptic, and how we're just like losing
Speaker 2: the things that we have that we could actually physically
Speaker 2: hold on to. And preservationists people with huge catalogs and
Speaker 2: huge things on their walls where it used to be
Speaker 2: like damn, why you got all them DVDs? Those people
Speaker 2: are saying well, who's laughing now, I.
Speaker 3: Still have a binder full of DVDs, much like that
Speaker 3: one guy one time said he had a binder full
Speaker 3: of women. That's why I still have a bunch of
Speaker 3: books on my shelf. Like yeah, I like I like, yeah,
Speaker 3: books made the lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Books never got replaced by Kendall because for
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably for a number of good reasons.
Speaker 1: But maybe we should take another look at this, like
Speaker 1: it's it's it really feels like the corporations behind the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry have us exact where they want us. When
Speaker 1: like you know, dis or physical media that you could
Speaker 1: own and consume at home became a thing in the
Speaker 1: early eighties, they freaked the fuck out, Like they were like,
Speaker 1: you know, when VCRs came out, the like studios opposed
Speaker 1: the home video boom, they started like suing. They sued
Speaker 1: Sony to try and make it so they couldn't make
Speaker 1: like the Betamax, which was the original VCR, because they
Speaker 1: were like, this is going to We're just losing too
Speaker 1: much control of like how we display our films and
Speaker 1: how we're able to control them and like hold people
Speaker 1: hostage to be able to watch them and because it
Speaker 1: wasn't modern America. The corporations lost out on that one,
Speaker 1: or I guess they lost to another corporation, so it
Speaker 1: still makes sense.
Speaker 3: Moder Do you know that porn was largely responsible for
Speaker 3: home media becoming so popular?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. Porn is always at the forefront of everything.
Speaker 1: It's also like built the Internet. It built the home
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Speaker 1: Caitlin as always such a pleasure having you on the
Speaker 1: daily geist. Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff?
Speaker 3: The pleasure is all mine. First of all, you.
Speaker 1: Can all yours.
Speaker 3: Well we'll share, Yeah we can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah we can.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'll dare you fuck.
Speaker 3: You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok because
Speaker 3: despite me not being very active on TikTok, I I
Speaker 3: am pretending to try to have a TikTok presence. So
Speaker 3: my username across all platforms is the same. Just at
Speaker 3: Caitlin Durante. You can listen to the Bechdel Cast that
Speaker 3: I co host with Jamie Loftis and we examine movies
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Speaker 1: That, And is there a working media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna plug something that I haven't seen yet,
Speaker 3: which might be dangerous, but I'm very excited to see it,
Speaker 3: and I think it'll be good based on who has
Speaker 3: made it. But there's a movie coming out. I think
Speaker 3: it opens on April twenty eighth called Polite Society. I'm
Speaker 3: really excited. The trailers make it seem like so much fun.
Speaker 3: It's directed by Nita Mansor, who also created a television
Speaker 3: show I really like called We Are Lady Parts. So
Speaker 3: I recommend it's so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it on a streaming corner.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. So she directed this movie that's coming out,
Speaker 3: Polite Society. And so here I am plugging something that
Speaker 3: I haven't seen and I'm not sure will be good,
Speaker 3: but I think it will be. And so I would
Speaker 3: just encourage people to go to the theater. Come come
Speaker 3: to this place. We come to this place from magic.
Speaker 3: We come to this place to laugh, to cry, to care.
Speaker 3: And if you don't have an AMC, you can go
Speaker 3: to another theater and watch Polite Society.
Speaker 1: But do wear some shiny silver pants there? Yes?
Speaker 3: And where all of your ring watches?
Speaker 1: I feel like I could see her rocking some ring
Speaker 1: watches Nicole Kidman. Yeah, that time that she was clapping
Speaker 1: strangely that time happening it was it was because she
Speaker 1: had too many ring watches on and she didn't want
Speaker 1: them clanking together.
Speaker 2: I get that. I'm getting sensitive sensitive mechanics in those rings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Daniel, Yeah, such a pleasure having you. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? And is there a working media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: As always, it is a pleasure to be here, happy
Speaker 2: to be doing duty for Miles while he is doing
Speaker 2: dad stuff. You can find me on all the internets
Speaker 2: at DJ Underscore Daniel d A n L. You can
Speaker 2: find me streaming on Twitch if this is coming out
Speaker 2: this is today is Friday, so you can find me
Speaker 2: playing uh this game control, which actually kind of has
Speaker 2: something to do with the fan of syndrome. Oddly enough,
Speaker 2: but that's the story for another time. Yeah, I'll be
Speaker 2: on four pm Pacific Standard time, and yeah, let me see,
Speaker 2: is there a piece of social media that I really like?
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say there's just a whole ouvra
Speaker 2: of check mark tweets now that are just making me laugh.
Speaker 2: And one that I like is from a friend and
Speaker 2: DJ Dylan Francis. You know that there's like those two
Speaker 2: mannequins where one is crying, the other one's like laughing
Speaker 2: pointy at the other one, and the crying mannequin has
Speaker 2: a check mark and the other one said, this motherfucker
Speaker 2: paid for Twitter, And so that's funny. The anti check
Speaker 2: mark brigade is out, and it's not really sharing my
Speaker 2: own tweet, but I tweeted the haha shout out never
Speaker 2: had a check mark gang ha ha with the crying
Speaker 2: face covered by the covered by the smiling mask thing,
Speaker 2: because yeah, never got there anyway.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien,
Speaker 1: a tweet I've been enjoying. Abraham Josephine. Josie Reesman tweeted
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Speaker 3: Yeah and Staples Center too, because that's what the Crypto
Speaker 3: dot com arena.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we have the crip is Yeah, the crypt
Speaker 2: I do kind of like the crypt but it's Staples.
Speaker 1: Yeah's Staples. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
Speaker 1: Underscore ol Brian. You can find us on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: we link the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: To producer Justin Connor, do you have a song do
Speaker 1: you think people should hear?
Speaker 4: This is a song I used to hear all the
Speaker 4: time when we were like pregaming or like coming back
Speaker 4: from a party or whatever back in the day in
Speaker 4: my in my DJ days, And since you know Daniel's here,
Speaker 4: I feel like it was a good opportunity to share
Speaker 4: this song. This is a song called I'm God by
Speaker 4: Clam's Casino. You can listen to this track like if
Speaker 4: you're still celebrating for twenty you know, twenty four hours later,
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's a very chill song, it's very versatile and there's
Speaker 4: a lot to listen to in here. So that is
Speaker 4: I'm God by Clams Casino when you can find that
Speaker 4: song in the footnotes.
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