Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and that's what you really missed.
Speaker 2: I'm Jenna, I'm still Kevin.
Speaker 3: Today we have a very special guest.
Speaker 2: Well, what would happened if you were like this guest
Speaker 2: isn't special? Today? We have a guest. No, we have
Speaker 2: a regular guest.
Speaker 3: But he is the king of He's in the King
Speaker 3: of laughs and the King of impressions and the king of.
Speaker 1: Just a wonderful human being.
Speaker 3: And he was just a hoot on set.
Speaker 2: So he's the Glee puppy dog. He was brother to everyone.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: I call him a golden retriever. Yes, cord Over Street,
Speaker 1: everybody enjoy Welcome cord Over Street. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, It's
Speaker 1: good to see you.
Speaker 2: We couldn't we couldn't do. Season two, would not bring
Speaker 2: Cord on. The only reason why season two was needed
Speaker 2: was because we needed to meet Cord.
Speaker 4: What's up Season two? Listeners?
Speaker 2: The only year for you. You come from like country songwriting royalty,
Speaker 2: which is why you're it's just send your blood. You're
Speaker 2: an incredible songwriter. You're the biggest fan. But how why
Speaker 2: did you start acting, Like, what the hell happened?
Speaker 5: I always like, I always done acting, and I kind
Speaker 5: of was steering away from music because my brother did.
Speaker 4: It, my dad did it.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to figure out what my my own
Speaker 5: identity was. And then once I kind of picked it
Speaker 5: up full time, I couldn't put it down.
Speaker 1: So when you got the audition for Glee, did you
Speaker 1: know about it? Had you watched it?
Speaker 3: Like? Where what was going on in your life?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I really hadn't.
Speaker 5: I got the audition and I, uh, my agent got
Speaker 5: me all of like the first season, and so I
Speaker 5: watched it. You know, I watched it before I started
Speaker 5: acting working on the show, so I didn't had some
Speaker 5: sort of reference.
Speaker 1: Did you know what character you were auditioning for at
Speaker 1: the time?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: My agent hit me up like, hey, can you go
Speaker 5: into Robert Orrich's casting office like thirty minutes and I
Speaker 5: was like, sure, can I bring my guitar? And I
Speaker 5: didn't have any songs that I didn't I didn't have
Speaker 5: any covers that I knew, So I just sang a
Speaker 5: song that I wrote, said so, and so I did
Speaker 5: my I did an original song in the audition, and
Speaker 5: then they had me go out and like, hey, can
Speaker 5: you get the sides for Finn in the pilot? And
Speaker 5: so I just auditioned with the with the pilot scene
Speaker 5: with him, and.
Speaker 2: Who wow, that's really crazy.
Speaker 3: So you really didn't know who you were auditioning for.
Speaker 3: You just were auditioning for the show.
Speaker 5: I had no idea, and it was like there was
Speaker 5: just said, like, you know, your new kid quarterback or whatever.
Speaker 5: And then I left the casting office and then I
Speaker 5: had I got a call from the casting office and
Speaker 5: they were like, hey, we sent somebody to kind of
Speaker 5: grab you and chase you down, and you already left,
Speaker 5: but can you come back and sing another song a
Speaker 5: cappella tonight? And so I ended up having to go
Speaker 5: back at like nine o'clock at night. And then and
Speaker 5: then I uh studio test, network test, and and then.
Speaker 4: I was in my first dancer selectew days later.
Speaker 3: At that point, did you did you audition with sides
Speaker 3: from like the show at that point then or did
Speaker 3: you still do the fin sides for the rest of
Speaker 3: your auditions?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you still did the pilot for his his his dialogue.
Speaker 1: And the pilot take a chance on me, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just it.
Speaker 4: Was just a cold. It was just a cold read.
Speaker 5: I mean they had me, uh, they they had me
Speaker 5: singing billionaire for sure, Like once I got once I
Speaker 5: got past the first uh going into like the testing stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also crazy because when you came on, you technically,
Speaker 2: like contractually, you weren't a regular, right.
Speaker 4: I don't think that was a regular for probably five
Speaker 4: or six years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that because I don't think people
Speaker 2: know any of that stuff, like when it comes to
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of a lot of our main
Speaker 1: crew cast.
Speaker 3: We're guest stars, you know for a majority of the
Speaker 3: first few seasons and were there every day, which was
Speaker 3: completely sideways.
Speaker 5: Well, it was like the contracts that we signed were
Speaker 5: like something like I don't know, it's like after seven episodes,
Speaker 5: you know, they were like you become a regular and then.
Speaker 4: That I think I want to track.
Speaker 5: It, like the same contract that you guys signed the
Speaker 5: media Tarin or whoever. And then they just didn't exercise that.
Speaker 3: Oh they could exercise the option, and then they just
Speaker 3: didn't exercise the They're like we'll save the money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which makes sense. I mean that's what I would do.
Speaker 2: Also, the guinea Pig because you were the first person
Speaker 2: to come into our oh yeah, tight knit group.
Speaker 5: Well, it was like you know, it was it was
Speaker 5: kind of like, you know, the first season crew is
Speaker 5: like kind of didn't know what the show is going
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 4: They're kind of going through the trenches together.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of a lot of first shared
Speaker 5: experiences that me, not even really watching the show beforehand,
Speaker 5: had no idea of like how close everybody was, but
Speaker 5: it was it was one of those things to I
Speaker 5: kind of like, uh, it didn't feel like that foreign.
Speaker 4: For that long tour, I was like a part of
Speaker 4: the part of the crew.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 3: I remember they were like the new kids coming, He's
Speaker 3: shooting Billionaire today. Kevin was there and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm coming early.
Speaker 1: I showed up early. I heard like the play.
Speaker 3: The play back of like but you know, like who
Speaker 3: is this kid?
Speaker 1: Do you remember your first day?
Speaker 5: Yes, I think I was pushing I haven't been a
Speaker 5: wheelchair or I was talking.
Speaker 4: With No, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: It was a lot together.
Speaker 5: It was a scene with Kevin and Corey and it
Speaker 5: was like walking down the hall and I think it
Speaker 5: was like it was Corey trying to convince me to.
Speaker 4: Jump in the club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was.
Speaker 5: Very intimidating because I think Brad Fauchek was directing, you know,
Speaker 5: but he was, you know, one of the creators and boss,
Speaker 5: and so it's like first day, it's like.
Speaker 4: It was very intimidating.
Speaker 5: And I was like because I was like I also
Speaker 5: was just coming from being replaced and recast, right, I
Speaker 5: had a little bit of that anxiety and the fear
Speaker 5: of like, gosh, and I had that anxiety for probably
Speaker 5: like five years, you know, we.
Speaker 2: All had a little bit of it.
Speaker 4: And then oh so like when I when I left,
Speaker 4: when I, uh left the first eight episodes of season three.
Speaker 2: Why was that.
Speaker 4: Don't have to get into all that and how it happened.
Speaker 5: But I came back as a stripper singing about a
Speaker 5: plastic cup Toby Keisa, and I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: this is this is like, this is my parole.
Speaker 2: We were happy to have you back. I remember, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you missed what eight episodes of season three or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, like the first eight or nine.
Speaker 2: I think a little you're on a little break.
Speaker 4: I was. I was dancing at Stallions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember we were filming something in the auditorium
Speaker 2: and then somebody got a text or something, or you
Speaker 2: texted one of us. I don't know how we found out,
Speaker 2: but we were all together in between like setups, like
Speaker 2: wait is this true? Is Cord coming back? And we
Speaker 2: were all just sort of gossiping amongst each other. We
Speaker 2: were all very excited.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder what that What was that? What was
Speaker 5: that like eight episode? What did you guys do for
Speaker 5: entertainment on the side when I was going.
Speaker 3: I don't know, honestly, I but also what did they
Speaker 3: write in the in the show that, like where did
Speaker 3: Sam go?
Speaker 4: I mean, I was homeless for a while, I was
Speaker 4: a stripper.
Speaker 1: I uh stop.
Speaker 5: I ended up I ended up finally getting to do
Speaker 5: a country song at the end of the whole series,
Speaker 5: and then before we ever get to do a country
Speaker 5: song it cuts out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I was like homeless and then I went
Speaker 5: to strip and then gosh, there's a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that even acknowledged it. You know, sometimes they're
Speaker 2: just like, let's just not even talk talk about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, and it's like, hey, look look at you.
Speaker 4: Where have you been?
Speaker 1: They had you with your your very naked a lot
Speaker 1: in the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like, for for like a few years, I
Speaker 5: was just pretty much eating chicken and like great greens.
Speaker 4: And then of course that like eight that eight episode.
Speaker 5: Window where I had myself a little vacation. I was
Speaker 5: eating you know, cheeseburgers, drinking beers, and my buddies like
Speaker 5: having just having a great old time, and then like like, hey, uh,
Speaker 5: we want you in next week as stripper, Like I'm
Speaker 5: not in, so I had to go into like I
Speaker 5: was working out like three times a day, just trying
Speaker 5: to do anything I could do.
Speaker 4: To offset my don't.
Speaker 2: Like talking to himself, like avoiding the crafty room, like
Speaker 2: touching his abs and be like okay, they here, are
Speaker 2: they still here? Are they coming in?
Speaker 1: Because it just to be naked a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely.
Speaker 5: Makes you very like conscious of your body and body
Speaker 5: image stuff. Especially It's like when you watch what are
Speaker 5: you watching yourself? Like a week later on screen, you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 5: I could have I could have done with a couple
Speaker 5: a couple of more crunches.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: And we were so young and and like we could
Speaker 3: structure it at the time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, there was the one episode where
Speaker 5: I was in Lady Like Lady Gaga like expandex singing applause,
Speaker 5: shirtless with like yeah, like ten foot wings.
Speaker 2: On That's right, it looked great.
Speaker 1: It's like a cage on stage.
Speaker 4: Right. Those images just don't they.
Speaker 6: Don't go off, and they never really and never leave
Speaker 6: your brain, like Cord being ripped to the gods and
Speaker 6: these giant wings and I would be in some literally
Speaker 6: like a gigantic pillow case.
Speaker 4: Cloud cloud face paint on it.
Speaker 2: I have already opposite and Darren has this.
Speaker 4: Long wig fabio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4: I have photos of all these these outfits and they're ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Don't you still have the Rocky horror pants?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I had.
Speaker 5: I did a like a swoof video for my friend
Speaker 5: Crystal for her birthday, and we did the Robin Thick song.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Instead of like I always Knew you were a cool girl,
Speaker 5: we changed it to I always Knew you were a cougar.
Speaker 5: So we had I have Tanner shirtless wearing Michael with
Speaker 5: shorts and the video.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, wow, I remember Cord when you first
Speaker 7: came out the show, and like you and I were walking.
Speaker 2: Down the Hallway and you were like yeah, man, like
Speaker 2: this is crazy, and you were so excited and like
Speaker 2: talking about what it was going to be, and like
Speaker 2: later that day on set like cool. I just remember
Speaker 2: Mark and Corey and I like messing with you more
Speaker 2: so than than me. It was sort of like a
Speaker 2: hazing where like it was, you know later on in
Speaker 2: the show when like Zach Woodley told Damian McGinty, he's like, well,
Speaker 2: you're on the show for six months and you're gay.
Speaker 2: You turned gay. He's like wait, what, Like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: everyone's gay. And I remember Cord. It's like, well, Cord,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to I'm pretty.
Speaker 5: Sure that that was a up in the air topic.
Speaker 2: I think that's why we were talking about it. You
Speaker 2: didn't know if you Sam was going to be Kurt's boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Well no, like so so that's what Mark is saying.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, yeah, I know they because you know
Speaker 5: he obviously you know, coming from the South, like you know,
Speaker 5: there's there's there's not a lot of I haven't really
Speaker 5: seen a gay.
Speaker 4: Person in person. Yeah, just like heard they existed.
Speaker 2: You know, you told me that when you got there,
Speaker 2: Like you were always so open and honest about it
Speaker 2: and not judgmental or prejudice. I was like, Oh, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of gay people here.
Speaker 4: That doesn't make a difference to me.
Speaker 1: Right, what about your reunion with miss Lindsay Lohan?
Speaker 3: Congrats on your awesome movie and your awesome TV show.
Speaker 3: Tell us about your did she like, did you ever say,
Speaker 3: like remember being ungry or did you just like not
Speaker 3: talk about it.
Speaker 4: Kind of like.
Speaker 5: Mentioned she she mentioned it a little bit and she
Speaker 5: didn't have the best experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it was no time.
Speaker 5: No, I think she just wasn't aware that she was
Speaker 5: going to be sitting next to president. She kind of
Speaker 5: got she kind of got blindsided by that. And then
Speaker 5: I think at the time, I think at the time, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, he wasn't the nicest to other people.
Speaker 2: No, definitely would be too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think that, but that we didn't
Speaker 5: really I didn't really meet her when she did our show.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I was there that day, but
Speaker 5: it was like, you know, their stuff.
Speaker 2: Was Yeah, we were never around them, wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't them.
Speaker 5: But she was really sweet, really cool, and we had
Speaker 5: a we had a great time in Park City, we
Speaker 5: got to live in Park City like two two and
Speaker 5: a half months, which is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So cool.
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, congrats on your season three pickup of Akaboco's.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's so exciting, the most successful lot of all of us.
Speaker 3: But tell me about being a series regular on another
Speaker 3: comedy after Doingley.
Speaker 5: You know, it's different because there's a huge there's like
Speaker 5: a you know, there obviously a language barrier, and like
Speaker 5: most of the people in our our show Fluid Fluids
Speaker 5: in Spanish and I'm not. So it's like very it's
Speaker 5: a it's a definite learning experience. Like I'm learning a
Speaker 5: lot constantly about different cultures and trying to learn as much.
Speaker 4: Spanish as I can.
Speaker 5: And you know, in between, yeah, I think working on
Speaker 5: on on Glee kind it kind of was like boot
Speaker 5: camp and conditioned you for real, really, I mean it
Speaker 5: makes a half.
Speaker 4: Hour comedy just just seeing like a breeze.
Speaker 5: You're not doing you know, you're not doing music's numbers,
Speaker 5: You're not you're not going to dance rehearsals or the
Speaker 5: studio on your lunch breaks, and like like when you
Speaker 5: think about like how much of a grind it was
Speaker 5: for those six seasons, Like it was NonStop, Like I
Speaker 5: didn't realize. You don't realize what you're capable until you
Speaker 5: get like thrown into the machine and you go through it.
Speaker 5: But like you're kind of like you know, throwing the
Speaker 5: baby in the pool and figuring out how to swell.
Speaker 5: It was great training me because I feel like the
Speaker 5: next jobs that I've done have felt like a kind
Speaker 5: of a cakewalk.
Speaker 4: You know, once you tackled all this.
Speaker 5: Stuff that we all went through workload, and then throw
Speaker 5: all the emotions and crazy you.
Speaker 4: Know ship on top of that.
Speaker 1: It's like, right, that's so nice. That sounds so great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get I get to goof off and make
Speaker 5: make people laugh and hang out in Mexico for three months.
Speaker 2: So you're also so good. Like when we would do
Speaker 2: some of the more ridiculous comedic things Ugly and you
Speaker 2: had some crazy ass things. I just always remember thinking
Speaker 2: like I don't think you knows how funny he is,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how like as a comedic actor, you.
Speaker 4: Just just just trying to make you know, lemonade here man,
Speaker 4: But you're.
Speaker 2: Like naturally gifted at it.
Speaker 4: But so are you.
Speaker 5: There's like so many like there were so many like
Speaker 5: moments that kind of came from us just messing around.
Speaker 5: Like you go back and watch now and you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is definitely not scripted.
Speaker 4: This is really just like us messing around and funny. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was just like obsessed with comedies growing up, Like
Speaker 5: Jim Carrey is probably my all time favorite, and so like,
Speaker 5: I just love how had his ability.
Speaker 4: To just go absolutely apesient, big and just be like.
Speaker 5: Just be such a character. But he's so he's so
Speaker 5: genuinely convincing, so it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Seem Yeah, it doesn't seem like fake.
Speaker 5: Like you go back and watch aston sure like that
Speaker 5: is just a character that he's just making up, and
Speaker 5: like it's just one of those things where like there
Speaker 5: is no hesitation to his commitment on this.
Speaker 4: And that's what I love about Like that I would.
Speaker 3: Put you in that lane though, I would definitely as
Speaker 3: a comedian like you you pushed to like extremes in
Speaker 3: a way, it's still like.
Speaker 5: It I was just always like trying to see like
Speaker 5: how far I could how far I could take. It's
Speaker 5: just just just to see like definitely like class clowne
Speaker 5: uh kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Now you're really good impressions. When did you figure and
Speaker 3: most people know that who are listening to.
Speaker 1: This, but like, when did you figure out that you
Speaker 1: were good at an impression?
Speaker 5: It started with like I was like eight years old,
Speaker 5: and it started with like Bill Club.
Speaker 4: It was one that you know or maybe.
Speaker 2: The only eight year old built impersonation.
Speaker 5: But you know, it was just like the whole sex
Speaker 5: scandal was going on and he clearly, he clearly had
Speaker 5: had sex with this woman.
Speaker 1: Real chords, Like I know he was like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: He did it. But like there's a bunch of comedians there.
Speaker 5: They're like people in SNL and stuff at the time
Speaker 5: that we're always doing the Bill Clint impression was like, uh,
Speaker 5: do not have sexual licens? Well no, it's just like
Speaker 5: started like so can eight year old just being like
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 1: You uh.
Speaker 4: Tell me, I'm live?
Speaker 2: How did you get your impressions worked into I know,
Speaker 2: things we did on set all the time. You know,
Speaker 2: Ryan and braden Ian would hear and like throw into
Speaker 2: the show. But how did your impressions getting worked into
Speaker 2: the show happen?
Speaker 4: You know, I just wouldn't shut up and I was
Speaker 4: just annoying that Jesus out of the people that.
Speaker 3: Kevin and I are both really good at impressions, really good.
Speaker 4: That's what What's what's your go Togevin?
Speaker 2: My go to is calling you and having you do
Speaker 2: one for me.
Speaker 4: We're we're so.
Speaker 2: A fan and I admire people who can do them
Speaker 2: because I cannot. And just like I would call Leah
Speaker 2: to do her bad singing for me, I remember like
Speaker 2: calling you every now and they'll be like, can you
Speaker 2: just say this? That's critic And I love to catch
Speaker 2: if you can. And sometimes in the choir room, I
Speaker 2: just hear behind me two mice.
Speaker 4: I could cream.
Speaker 5: The first mouse wow, miss mouse smooth, and the second
Speaker 5: mouse wow.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 4: Remember that, you know? You know what? Actually, so one
Speaker 4: of my buddies is.
Speaker 5: He was doing the he was like doing the musical
Speaker 5: directing for the Jones Brothers there, remember this tour.
Speaker 4: And I used to always do by Matthew McConaughey for
Speaker 4: for Joe and Round.
Speaker 5: And uh so my friend was like, Hey, I'm Matthews
Speaker 5: doing the intro for there when he walks on stage.
Speaker 5: But I you know, I'm trying to do all of
Speaker 5: the design everything. Can you you know, read this funt
Speaker 5: as Matthew McConaughey, so I can build this challenge around it,
Speaker 5: like an intro for the thing. I was like, sure,
Speaker 5: So I did by Matthew McConaughey, where I was just like,
Speaker 5: what is memory?
Speaker 4: Is it only something that sense?
Speaker 5: This can captured you and you alone, your favorite band,
Speaker 5: well friends, you.
Speaker 4: Are going to want to them and and so I
Speaker 4: And they.
Speaker 5: Sent it to matt to obviously because he was like
Speaker 5: a template for him to kind of definitely for sure.
Speaker 3: You're the demo from that.
Speaker 2: That's probable.
Speaker 5: It's like those it's like those Morgan Freeman and personals
Speaker 5: that do all those MasterCard ads.
Speaker 1: Oh they yes, they try to get the sound.
Speaker 2: The sound like every voiceover sounds like someone who's vaguely
Speaker 2: like but like.
Speaker 5: Morgan Freeman has a guy that does his voice that
Speaker 5: for those for his ads and stuff, like it's a
Speaker 5: real thing. What so he like actually he does the
Speaker 5: Morgan Freeman. Yeah, everything else is master.
Speaker 2: Use all day or.
Speaker 1: You're you're not Biff Marty Marty McFly.
Speaker 4: My voice is a little worse right now. Five.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I think I think that that needs work,
Speaker 5: But I guess I can entertain myself for hours. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: I think that you know, those people that know me
Speaker 5: really well are it's just like dude, oh yeah, we
Speaker 5: get it.
Speaker 4: You could sound like.
Speaker 2: Somebody No it's no, no, no. If you need to workshop
Speaker 2: and you just call us.
Speaker 3: I was like being on set all the time, Cord
Speaker 3: would just like, let me try one out on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me try out.
Speaker 5: They would have they would have all of a sudden
Speaker 5: read a script and it would be like, oh, Nicholas
Speaker 5: Cage impression.
Speaker 4: Like I don't think you guys know how impressions work.
Speaker 4: You don't just like wait up, like how I can.
Speaker 2: And I had like especially because we got it so
Speaker 2: last minute.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. And so like I'm literally like the night
Speaker 5: before my am I doing Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 4: I like watching all these clips you know when he
Speaker 4: does that, Like I'm like I'm in my room alone
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 8: So like on the day all right, running through the
Speaker 8: scene and it's like I'm doing a Nigola's cage just
Speaker 8: randomly in the choir room, just jumps into Niggla's cage
Speaker 8: and then I'm jumping into a Justin Bieber song.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Speaking of which, are we going on tour cord.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's right for all of you, justin Bieber experience
Speaker 5: fans out there.
Speaker 2: There's at least five there's at least.
Speaker 5: Ten songs where could probably cover and do a little
Speaker 5: record and then you know, tour around the country. I
Speaker 5: mean me and Kevin were actually talking about getting the
Speaker 5: band back together. It's honestly not a bad idea because
Speaker 5: there's so many more great songs that.
Speaker 4: Have come out. That's right, believers.
Speaker 1: Since yes, so they still call themselves the believers, is
Speaker 1: that it believers?
Speaker 4: I think I just need somebody.
Speaker 3: Didn't Ryan say it was supposed to be something and
Speaker 3: he didn't get approved?
Speaker 2: Yes, this was the tailor swe did you know that chord?
Speaker 4: No, that was a different episode.
Speaker 2: Oh, he told us maybe he's complaint. He told us
Speaker 2: that was very manelow.
Speaker 5: I had so I had gotten the template of Uh.
Speaker 4: I think it was Joe.
Speaker 5: I think that was the song I was supposed to
Speaker 5: sing because I got the demo for it, and then
Speaker 5: I think it got cleared and then I texted Taylor
Speaker 5: and I was like, hey, I was like, I was like,
Speaker 5: I was like, uh, I think I'm seeing I'm thinking
Speaker 5: I'm seeing like trouble on this next week's episode, and
Speaker 5: then it immediately changed the Grayville.
Speaker 4: Like and like because I figured she would just know.
Speaker 5: And so I think that might be why it didn't
Speaker 5: get It might have gotten unclear because she maybe she
Speaker 5: wasn't aware of it at the time.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did you ever pay any of your original songs to Ryan?
Speaker 4: Uh? Maybe probably, I don't know. I think so. I
Speaker 4: probably send him an email, And I don't think I
Speaker 4: think it was cricks.
Speaker 1: We didn't do a lot of original songs to be there,
Speaker 1: So I just I.
Speaker 4: Think Darren did one.
Speaker 1: One of her original.
Speaker 2: Songs, remember that. Nope, no crickods.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm so glad that, Like, I mean, it
Speaker 5: would have been really cool to have one of my
Speaker 5: songs I'd written on the show. But I also feel
Speaker 5: like not like forcing my you know, my music down
Speaker 5: people's throats.
Speaker 1: You don't have to force it down people's.
Speaker 4: No, But like, when I'm.
Speaker 5: Looking at it now, it's like the type of music
Speaker 5: that I was writing and making, and it wasn't necessarily
Speaker 5: it was it wasn't necessarily in with like the pop.
Speaker 4: Mature of the show. And then also.
Speaker 5: I look back now on some of the earlier music
Speaker 5: I was sending out, like you know, to the powers
Speaker 5: that be, was not in the in the lane of
Speaker 5: where I ended up going creatively, and it was very
Speaker 5: it was very young and premature, and it was I'm
Speaker 5: glad it never saw the why to day.
Speaker 2: It was still good though, Gordy.
Speaker 4: But somewhere on a hard drive there's there's like there's
Speaker 4: there's twenty twenty ten me singing really high, and.
Speaker 2: I think I have some of them. You send me stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was from twenty ten, but like,
Speaker 2: what do you think of this? And I loved it.
Speaker 2: Everyone would send me their demos.
Speaker 5: Yes, Kevin had some pretty pretty great demos back in
Speaker 5: the day too.
Speaker 4: I remember your plays and stuff. It was just like
Speaker 4: it sounds like Stevie.
Speaker 2: Wonder, it's weird about girls, such a liar, Kevin. I
Speaker 2: remember I played and he's like he looked at me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know I'm saying about girls.
Speaker 5: I let's let's let's let's switch switch switch around and
Speaker 5: put you in the hot seat.
Speaker 4: Is that weird singing about girls back then?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just I think because I came from like the
Speaker 2: music business and had no intention of ever, like I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was an option of sort of coming
Speaker 2: out publicly that I was like, oh, yeah, I'll just
Speaker 2: keep doing this. It's fine, but yeah, let me just
Speaker 2: find some inspiration. But I do think that's why the
Speaker 2: music probably also wasn't great because I think I was
Speaker 2: definitely like, you can't go into a session, you know,
Speaker 2: you go to a recording session and it's part therapy,
Speaker 2: and so I clearly was withholding most of myself with
Speaker 2: these people and I was doing it was once summer,
Speaker 2: I had a session I think almost every single day
Speaker 2: to two and a half months, and you get in
Speaker 2: that rhythm, yeah, and I was like, yeah, what if
Speaker 2: we just talk about like we don't say a pronoun
Speaker 2: in this song.
Speaker 5: It's I hadn't really thought about that, but like it's
Speaker 5: so it's such a you're still right because when you
Speaker 5: think about it, like it is a therapy session and
Speaker 5: if you're not being real and you don't believe what
Speaker 5: you're saying, or it's just like the audience is what
Speaker 5: you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And yeah, it definitely was a learning and
Speaker 2: I had also never been thrown into an experience like
Speaker 2: that where you're just thrown into different writers every single
Speaker 2: day and different producers where none of it felt organic
Speaker 2: or anything like that. And all these people were so talented,
Speaker 2: and you've been so many seconds and people can just
Speaker 2: spit out melodies and lyrics. I was like, well, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't feel anything for any of this. But that
Speaker 2: was on me My the A and R at Columbia.
Speaker 2: The first time we met, he was like, so, do
Speaker 2: you have a girlfriend or boyfriend? I don't know, And
Speaker 2: I could like, are you asking? I could have just
Speaker 2: been like yes, and that would have changed everything from
Speaker 2: the very beginning. He was like, no, no, no, no, no girlfriend.
Speaker 4: I don't have sex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, celibate. I'm married to and Jenna.
Speaker 4: One of the one of the questions I get asked
Speaker 4: most of about our show is is he really in
Speaker 4: a wheelchair?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah all the time.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I hadn't really thought about that. Like
Speaker 4: a lot of people probably assume that you're actually you
Speaker 4: were actually a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, still still walk is the thing you can walk.
Speaker 2: When you came on the show, you had just gotten recast,
Speaker 2: which is a traumatic experience. You're thrown into this like
Speaker 2: juggernaut of a TV show, you're worried about getting fired,
Speaker 2: and by the time you come on, we got moved
Speaker 2: to an earlier time slot. We got bumped up an hour,
Speaker 2: which means like more viewers. Was at eight o'clock. Did
Speaker 2: you feel like a sudden impact on that, like in
Speaker 2: the streets with your family going back home to Tennessee, Like,
Speaker 2: did you know shift?
Speaker 4: I had a hard time going back in the abbey
Speaker 4: after that.
Speaker 2: Off limits.
Speaker 5: I mean, as bad as I wanted to go in there,
Speaker 5: because you know, there's so much fun. You get to
Speaker 5: see guys little little tiny shorts, you know, dancing like
Speaker 5: I mean we've been to Rocos several times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know it's.
Speaker 2: Like yeah really with the Go Go Boys.
Speaker 5: No, but it was it was one of those things
Speaker 5: to where I had no idea the I really had
Speaker 5: no idea about the impact of the show because I
Speaker 5: it wasn't really something that was the types of stuff
Speaker 5: that I watched. Yeah, and so it was weird, like
Speaker 5: going back to Nashas just like because you were such
Speaker 5: a in a bubble and closed off too. We were
Speaker 5: working so much, you know, we didn't really see the
Speaker 5: outside world that much. So when I would go home
Speaker 5: for Christmas and I go to the mall and it
Speaker 5: was just like all of a sudden, like people losing
Speaker 5: their ship. And I'm like, it was really weird because
Speaker 5: it felt very normal, going you know, to and.
Speaker 4: From work and like hanging out with everybody else. I
Speaker 4: felt very like everybody was still fairly grounded.
Speaker 2: Does that make you more present now for like a
Speaker 2: Capolco like where you have a show that's like successful
Speaker 2: that you can maybe be more aware of the success
Speaker 2: while you're in it and in terms of like being
Speaker 2: grateful for it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think, well, there's you know, being being young, really,
Speaker 5: I mean a lot younger, you don't really appreciate and
Speaker 5: take advantage of of what you have in front of
Speaker 5: you as much as you do, like looking back and
Speaker 5: having hindsight, you're like, Okay, well I know how hard
Speaker 5: I did work, and now having years after that, I
Speaker 5: know how hard I can work. Right. But yeah, it's
Speaker 5: it's it's definitely like it's great having that kind of
Speaker 5: like just data to kind of have your have appreciation.
Speaker 1: For you, I want a reference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's also you learned how those friendships last,
Speaker 2: like we made such great bonds and strong.
Speaker 5: Fels and it's like immediately we can not talk for
Speaker 5: like a year. Like it's like it's like we never
Speaker 5: missed a beat. Like I saw I hadn't seen I
Speaker 5: saw Amber at my friend in the morn's birthday.
Speaker 4: And I guess this last summer, but I hadn't really
Speaker 4: hung out with her. And then we I did a
Speaker 4: little like birthday thing.
Speaker 5: At a bowling alley and she swung she swung by
Speaker 5: it like you know, we're like doing shots and hanging
Speaker 5: out and like it was just like so good this year.
Speaker 4: It was just like it's like it's like running into
Speaker 4: family that you.
Speaker 3: Haven't seen it forever or before we let you go,
Speaker 3: we ask everybody what is uh, what is the feeling
Speaker 3: or word or sentiment that Glee left you with?
Speaker 2: The eye I wish you could see.
Speaker 4: What is the that it left me with?
Speaker 1: Ye overall?
Speaker 3: Yeah, any any anything doesn't have to be just one word.
Speaker 5: Just it's like it's like a blessing to be a
Speaker 5: part of anything that's like that has that can affect
Speaker 5: and have an impact on that man you know people
Speaker 5: from and also like dude, we were we were dealing
Speaker 5: with you know, stuff way before anybody else with like
Speaker 5: real issues like you know, kids, you know, being closeted
Speaker 5: or you know, trans conversations and all sorts of things.
Speaker 5: So you got to give it up to Ryan to
Speaker 5: for actually like you know, like having the balls to
Speaker 5: like talk about uncomfortable things instead of just you know, yeah,
Speaker 5: putting putting a billion Beaver songs on it, which are.
Speaker 3: Great, No, but he he We talk about like him
Speaker 3: doing the you know, it's like the balance of like
Speaker 3: the extreme and then like the grounding more like, yeah,
Speaker 3: trying to social issues that he.
Speaker 4: Would hit you try to like sneak and sneak in
Speaker 4: the medicine, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly which.
Speaker 4: Which which is? As a creative person, that's probably great ballsy,
Speaker 4: especially in that you watch TV back in like twenty ten,
Speaker 4: you're like, oh gosh, you couldnt get away with any
Speaker 4: of this stuff nowadays.
Speaker 3: Oh totally totally.
Speaker 1: Corny. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3: We love you and we really appreciate you coming on
Speaker 3: and chatting with us, and good luck in Mexico.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much. I love you so much.
Speaker 5: I'm happy to come on and chat anytime. Kevin, Let's
Speaker 5: let's work on that experience.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, love you. Welcome.
Speaker 4: Hey, come come lay some sick vocals down at the studio.
Speaker 2: You know great, Yeah yeah, I'll just I'll be making
Speaker 2: some tracks while you're busy bringing home to Bacon in Mexico.
Speaker 4: I love it. You love you guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks corn all right, love you.
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