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Speaker 1: dot CEO. Hi everyone. In this special episode, I'll be
Speaker 1: talking with Emmy Award winning journalist Elia Calron. Ilia co
Speaker 1: anchors Univision's nationally broadcast evening news show alongside Orger Ramos.
Speaker 1: She's the first Afro Latina to anchor a national news
Speaker 1: desk for a major Hispanic network in the US. This month,
Speaker 1: Elia published her memoir My Time to Speak, Reclaiming Ancestry
Speaker 1: and Confronting Race. We'll talk about racism, intersectionality, and Elia's
Speaker 1: own reporting on femicide. Did you find it to be
Speaker 1: somewhat of a new experience, maybe even a struggle to
Speaker 1: open yourself up personally, where as journalists were taught not
Speaker 1: to do that. It was one of the most difficult
Speaker 1: things to open My heart actually had to rewrite many
Speaker 1: chapters many times. You grew up in a region called Choko,
Speaker 1: is that right, correct? Correct? A small town called Ismena.
Speaker 1: And let's say, as the state is Choko, it's a
Speaker 1: Pacific coast in the west. Yes, So tell us what
Speaker 1: makes this region unique or special. We are more than
Speaker 1: ninety percent African descendants, poor, were abandoned by the governments,
Speaker 1: affected by the corruption of our own leaders. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we were at the same time happy. When I was
Speaker 1: growing up, the first years of my life, we didn't
Speaker 1: have power. We didn't have electricity, so my clothes and
Speaker 1: my uniforms to go to school had to be iron
Speaker 1: with a charcoal iron. I had to walk miles and
Speaker 1: take a small boat to cross a river to go
Speaker 1: to school. It was hard, but I think it gave
Speaker 1: me the drive to fight for something, to want to
Speaker 1: become someone, to do bigger things. And when I was saying,
Speaker 1: I told my mom I wanted to move to Meladine,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest cities in Columbia, where her sister
Speaker 1: and family lived. So I moved to live with my
Speaker 1: Pia and her family and do my high school in Meladine.
Speaker 1: And that is a city where I first racism for
Speaker 1: the first time. Can you describe that? Yes, I was
Speaker 1: in sixth grade and it hurt me so much. And
Speaker 1: after I felt so bad because I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to say, and I decided to forget about the episode.
Speaker 1: And I didn't say anything about it, not even to
Speaker 1: my mom. What am I going to say to her?
Speaker 1: And I decided just to keep it to myself, to
Speaker 1: keep it to myself. Those microaggressions, the way they look
Speaker 1: at you, the way they tell you with the body
Speaker 1: language that you don't belong here, or they want to
Speaker 1: be away from you, they don't want to be related
Speaker 1: to you. Was that just something that you quietly learned
Speaker 1: how to live with. I just erased them as if
Speaker 1: it never happens, and then I kept going and growing up.
Speaker 1: When you go back to those memories, it's hard. I
Speaker 1: didn't want my daughter to feel like the same way
Speaker 1: I felt. And we started a long conversation that never
Speaker 1: ends and I will never end. Like taking every opportunity
Speaker 1: you have to talk to your kids about this and
Speaker 1: those corrogression, so called jokes that are offensive went to
Speaker 1: refer to a dark skinned person are hard and we
Speaker 1: need to eliminate them from our upbringing. So from what
Speaker 1: I understand, before you arrived here in the US, you
Speaker 1: had this idealized vision of what the US would be like.
Speaker 1: When did you realize that that vision you had wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily true? In my country, black people were always the
Speaker 1: service of the house, or enslaves or the people working
Speaker 1: on the plantations. And for me, it was like, oh wow.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I was reading Tony Morrison
Speaker 1: and I knew about the experience of the slaves in
Speaker 1: the United States. But when you come and you see
Speaker 1: you know, as you are in the news, you see
Speaker 1: the news every day, you see the difference, and you
Speaker 1: can notice institutional racism. Basically, you've experienced backlash against your
Speaker 1: identity as a woman of for Latina descent, and that's
Speaker 1: essentially three different targets. For me, it's like being a
Speaker 1: minority within a minority, being black, being Hispanic, and being
Speaker 1: a woman. The racism is very present in Latin America,
Speaker 1: from Argentina to Mexico whatever. We had people enslave that
Speaker 1: were brought from Africa against their will. In those countries
Speaker 1: we had history of racism. I am proud to be
Speaker 1: a black woman with my ethnicity, being Hispanic or Latina.
Speaker 1: But my race is Black, my ethnicity culture is Hispanic.
Speaker 1: I mean, your husband is Asian, you're after Latina, and
Speaker 1: you have a daughter who embodies all these backgrounds, and
Speaker 1: I'm so curious, like what it's like to live in
Speaker 1: such a culturally rich household. It's just amazing. We knew
Speaker 1: we had different upbringings, different cultures, but we decided to
Speaker 1: raised our differences and embraced where we are in common.
Speaker 1: The moral values, the respect, the discipline, the family values
Speaker 1: were all the same. So we tried to focus and
Speaker 1: what we have in common to start racing the family
Speaker 1: that we have today. I wanted to ask if femicide
Speaker 1: or gender based violence directed at women is something that
Speaker 1: you've confronted in your professional life. I actually dedicate one
Speaker 1: of the chapters of my book it is called the
Speaker 1: High Price of Silence. And we traveled to Mexico and
Speaker 1: to El Salvador. As hard in our countries is very
Speaker 1: even in Colombia, not talking about only Mexico, El Salvador, Colombia, Peru.
Speaker 1: We have so many cases of women that are killed
Speaker 1: because they are women. As I say, we are not
Speaker 1: found that somebody killed a woman somebody assisting a woman, right,
Speaker 1: And we need to keep bringing the topic to the table.
Speaker 1: We need to keep raising our voices so more women
Speaker 1: find a healthy environment where they can raise their voices
Speaker 1: and where the stories can be heard and believed, and
Speaker 1: we start to end the situation. One of the underlying
Speaker 1: issues beneath all of this, it has to do with
Speaker 1: the corruption that underlays the malfunction of the judicial system
Speaker 1: in Latin America is drug trafficking. And that's certainly, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what ties our two countries together, in Mexico and Colombia.
Speaker 1: And we spend at least one episode in Forgotten explaining
Speaker 1: how the US Mexico border became the gateway for Colombian
Speaker 1: drugs in the eighties and nineties. Yes, we lived in
Speaker 1: that era in the eighties and the nineties where the
Speaker 1: war between the car tails and the drug against the
Speaker 1: cartails was very hard. You felt in danger all the time,
Speaker 1: all the time. Every time you were going out of
Speaker 1: your house, you didn't know if you were coming back
Speaker 1: a life because a bone board is going to explode
Speaker 1: at a mall or a public place or just a street,
Speaker 1: or they were going to kill someone when you you know,
Speaker 1: we're just passing by, you might as well be describing
Speaker 1: what is at certain periods. We don't even have to
Speaker 1: go to as a far away place to see these
Speaker 1: kinds of crimes submitted against women. Here in the United States,
Speaker 1: we see femicide occurring. We need to have a system
Speaker 1: that supports women, like federal registration on a system of
Speaker 1: gender based violence. Our countries need to distribute wars resources
Speaker 1: to prosecute those crimes. The police forces need to be
Speaker 1: well trained when they received cases of domestic violence. Certainly,
Speaker 1: some of the things we witnesses as journalists, even though
Speaker 1: we don't experience him ourselves personally, they do have an impact,
Speaker 1: I know, and how to deal with all those experiences
Speaker 1: and the stories that you cover, the places you visit,
Speaker 1: and the struggle of the people you interview. Sometimes it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it touches you at a personal level. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you cry when you go back to a hotel after
Speaker 1: listening to those kits, for example in the caravan, or
Speaker 1: a teenager that lost his mom that was you know,
Speaker 1: murdered by her husband or couple is hard. And this
Speaker 1: book at the same time worked like an outlet of
Speaker 1: those experiences that touch me and make me grow as
Speaker 1: a woman and as a professional. Well, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being our guest on this special episode. To
Speaker 1: read more about Elia Calron and her story, check out
Speaker 1: her book My Time to Speak, Reclaiming Ancestry and Confronting Race.
Speaker 1: To learn more about femicide in Mexico. Listen to our
Speaker 1: podcast series Forgotten The Women of Juadis. I'm Monica, Thanks
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