Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Melancamps and camera Judge.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, so we are back from Bravo Con,
Speaker 1: still recovering, UM, myself, Teddy Meloncamp and Tamra Judge. I
Speaker 1: love that neither has even bothered to put on makeup today.
Speaker 1: We're like, no, no, I actually have a photo shoot
Speaker 1: right after this, So I thought, what, why bother? Why bother? UM? Well,
Speaker 1: I wanted to start out because there has been some
Speaker 1: some rumors going around UM and I just kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it for a second. I first
Speaker 1: off wanted to say thank you to Tamara because I'm
Speaker 1: When I arrived to Bravo Con, I had just found
Speaker 1: out all these different things in regards to my melanoma,
Speaker 1: the stages, surgery, all these different changes, and Tarma was
Speaker 1: a very good friend to me, and two of the
Speaker 1: nights let me like crash with her and her makeup
Speaker 1: artists and like because I was feeling sad and alone.
Speaker 1: We were both there without our husbands, and I knew
Speaker 1: I had to show up for work every day. So
Speaker 1: tam I want to say thank you for that. Well,
Speaker 1: of course, I mean I knew that you were in
Speaker 1: a very stragg straggle fragile state, and I knew you
Speaker 1: did not want to be alone. And let's face it,
Speaker 1: we had fun. We laid in bed, we watched Jeopardy
Speaker 1: and I got and she got one. Right. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that happened, but I smart now. I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing. And you know, I got heat about
Speaker 1: this one time, like a million years ago, about Provence
Speaker 1: for staying with my friend. You know, staying with a
Speaker 1: friend and when you're on a girl's trip or when
Speaker 1: you're on a trip and you're away from all your
Speaker 1: loved ones, like sometimes you just want to Like we,
Speaker 1: I mean, we ordered pizza. Granted we were too tired
Speaker 1: to even eat it, but two of the knights I
Speaker 1: stayed with Tam and Michelle, and I appreciated you guys
Speaker 1: supporting me because those it was hard. I mean, Bravo
Speaker 1: Con was twenty four seven. Yeah, so evidently there's some
Speaker 1: members out there that some kinky stuff was going on
Speaker 1: between us and we were kissing and excuse me, which
Speaker 1: was a crock of shit? Oh no, what else was
Speaker 1: No one else was going on that I got into
Speaker 1: a physical altercation. I still laugh about that. Gravo historian
Speaker 1: and beat the crap out of her on the floor
Speaker 1: of what they pretended was Bravo con but clearly was
Speaker 1: at somebody's house. And all even the fact that even
Speaker 1: my husband and my father and all people involved started
Speaker 1: calling me my dad's like reps, like are you gonna fight?
Speaker 1: What happened? We've never known you to get physical, so guts,
Speaker 1: don't believe everything you hear. Um. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you have pink hair right now? Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: still have pink hair right now. And the girl in
Speaker 1: the picture did not had blonde hair. She also, I
Speaker 1: mean not to tooot my own horn. I know I
Speaker 1: look young and everything. The girls looked like twenty five
Speaker 1: years soul. But I die every time I think about
Speaker 1: that actual video because this girl's were going at it.
Speaker 1: And to think that you would ever do something like
Speaker 1: that is, um, pretty comical. And I think it's as
Speaker 1: comical as anyone thinking I would make out with Tom
Speaker 1: I know, right. And by the way, I've shared a
Speaker 1: bed with Vicky Gimbelson on the Girl's trip, Like who cares?
Speaker 1: Who cared? The only people that don't share beds, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, is super rich people like so rich that
Speaker 1: they have to have their own space and their glamp
Speaker 1: and they're this and they're that. But if you're a
Speaker 1: regular human person who like is having fun most of
Speaker 1: the time, you don't want the fun to end and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, that's just hanging in small talk and
Speaker 1: gossip about all the stuff that went down, right, Well,
Speaker 1: the best part was is when we got into like
Speaker 1: at two or three in the morning or however, it
Speaker 1: was very very late, and it was me, you, Michelle,
Speaker 1: Michelle does my hair. We're literally on a kingside bed
Speaker 1: and three of us in a row and we're like
Speaker 1: with their arms crossed like this, slept like this all
Speaker 1: night long, all night what is it? Four hours? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the long and all because TM didn't have
Speaker 1: to go into work until eleven guess for time I
Speaker 1: did am so that means hair and makeup six. It
Speaker 1: was brutal, but we made it through, which is why
Speaker 1: we got to get to a fan So this episode
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Bravo con gossip things that went down,
Speaker 1: but also we'll get into recapping Potomac later first, and
Speaker 1: so all of these that we're gonna be answering right
Speaker 1: now are fan questions. Um, the first one was who
Speaker 1: was the nicest person that we met? Um, for me,
Speaker 1: I was shocked because in my mind, I don't know why,
Speaker 1: I just thought Candice was gonna be Candice from Potomac
Speaker 1: was gonna be kind of a jerk, just because I
Speaker 1: had just finished watching the entire last season of her
Speaker 1: like always stirring it. And I went right up to her,
Speaker 1: I like the legends Baul and like started grilling her
Speaker 1: about this season. And she was funny and she was quick,
Speaker 1: and she was nice, and so is her husband. So
Speaker 1: that's one that I thought was going to be rude,
Speaker 1: but was so nice that I loved her. And then
Speaker 1: I mean, what about your champ? So the nicest person?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to pick like the nicest person
Speaker 1: because everybody was so nice. I'm telling you, everybody I
Speaker 1: met was over the top nice. The only one person
Speaker 1: that I met that wasn't very nice or friendly and
Speaker 1: she wasn't mean, she just wasn't very warm to me
Speaker 1: with Marisol, Oh, but I I saw that, but then
Speaker 1: she kind of came around. I think it's very hard
Speaker 1: in this world to tell because we think that everybody's
Speaker 1: an extrovert because they're on a television show or because
Speaker 1: they have some kind of platform. I kind of thought
Speaker 1: the same thing about Marisol, But then at one point
Speaker 1: were both like near one another and like forced to talk,
Speaker 1: and she was really funny. Yeah, she was like mean.
Speaker 1: She wasn't mean to be any means, but I did
Speaker 1: try to crash her picture. They were the cast, the
Speaker 1: Miami cast has taken a picture and I'm like in
Speaker 1: the middle, and she goes, you're nut in our cast.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just joking. Yeah, yeah, that was I
Speaker 1: think at the like football. Yeah. So but then I
Speaker 1: saw her again and she was nice, but everybody was
Speaker 1: so sweet. The Potomac girls, Oh my god, did you
Speaker 1: think Vicky was really sweet? Um? I, UM, I can
Speaker 1: say this. I went out and I think you can
Speaker 1: confirm with me. I went out of my way to
Speaker 1: be nice to Vicky because I know what it's like
Speaker 1: to feel in that situation where like, when I listen,
Speaker 1: I'm fired too. But I was also, you know, paid
Speaker 1: to be there to do certain things, and I'm podcasting whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm also walking into rooms as one of the only
Speaker 1: noncurrent housewives the same way videos, and I went out
Speaker 1: of my way to be friendly to her. And there
Speaker 1: was a point where like we were all remember when
Speaker 1: we were late to was it the Legends ball where
Speaker 1: we missed the red carpet. We were so late and
Speaker 1: um Biggy couldn't find anyone, and she like looked at
Speaker 1: me and she's like, I can't find anyone. I feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: like I went above and beyond. But if when anybody
Speaker 1: else was around, she just had this sour look on
Speaker 1: her face all of the time and like she was
Speaker 1: matt like like didn't want anybody else to succeed. I
Speaker 1: definitely don't feel that way, like I want everybody to succeed.
Speaker 1: I could talk about stuff because it's interesting and you
Speaker 1: know it's on topic, but that was bizarre to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna zip it it there. Okay, Well that's
Speaker 1: that was that. We've had some words lately. So since oh,
Speaker 1: since you don't have to tell me, but since we've
Speaker 1: gotten home. Ah, hell okay, Well I can say I
Speaker 1: watched you try to include her multiple times. Um. I
Speaker 1: even went to her room saying, hey, you want to
Speaker 1: go out to dinner tonight? No, no, no, green room.
Speaker 1: Hey you want to go walk around brab upon Nope, no, nope,
Speaker 1: so whatever. The next question for me is, are you
Speaker 1: guys team Trey or team who was your rudest person? Say?
Speaker 1: I mean my rudest person was definitely, I mean it
Speaker 1: was Vicky. I mean even even though there were moments
Speaker 1: because I said to you one of the nights, I
Speaker 1: have empathy for Vicky because I can tell she's but
Speaker 1: what I wasn't sure if you're saying she was your
Speaker 1: but I didn't. It wasn't necessarily how she treated me
Speaker 1: like I'm used to it, but I didn't like the
Speaker 1: way she talked um to Lisa from Miami, Like Lisa
Speaker 1: was so nice, Oh my god, she was insanely nice,
Speaker 1: so nice, and they're all by herself and like open
Speaker 1: and vulnerable, and she just kind of like, I just
Speaker 1: didn't like how she treated other housewives. And I just
Speaker 1: from a from an outside perspective, I not like how
Speaker 1: she was um. And then are you guys on team
Speaker 1: Trayer team Melissa? Listen? I'm on both teams, truly, I'm invested.
Speaker 1: I'm not really on a team. I don't really play
Speaker 1: that game. Um. As far as Melissa go, she's always
Speaker 1: been really nice to me. Her and Joe both have
Speaker 1: been very pleasant. Um, Teresa, I had a great time
Speaker 1: with her, if only I can remember what we talked about.
Speaker 1: Are you guys were together a lot? Yeah, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of drinking and it's just a long day,
Speaker 1: lots of alcohol, and I have more than three drinks,
Speaker 1: and I remember my name. Um, but I didn't really
Speaker 1: even I didn't see Melissa that much. And yeah, there's
Speaker 1: been a lot online, I think because there's such the
Speaker 1: divide between Jersey and you know, between the two Jersey groups.
Speaker 1: But um, everybody's asking about what happened with Justin and
Speaker 1: Anderson because he co hosted with me. So our first
Speaker 1: night out in our room, we did podcast with Lisa
Speaker 1: from UH Salt Lake City. Then we tried to do
Speaker 1: a Beverly Hills recap, but like we were such a
Speaker 1: hot mass, like we can't even call it a recap.
Speaker 1: We were just talking. And then we went out that
Speaker 1: night and the way that Justin Anderson described it was
Speaker 1: he saw Melissa. I didn't see her, but he saw
Speaker 1: her and like said something to her in the elevator
Speaker 1: and she acted like jay Loo, like she was just
Speaker 1: too good for all of it. That being said, Melissa
Speaker 1: has never acted that way towards me. I know, since
Speaker 1: Justin spoke about this, he has since texted with Melissa
Speaker 1: and they have cleared all of this up. But that's
Speaker 1: really all I know on that. Yeah, so Garcela would
Speaker 1: not go onto the podcast with you. Uh So. The
Speaker 1: way it worked on the Red Carpet was, um, Tara
Speaker 1: Are one of our producers would go up and talk
Speaker 1: to the Bravo rep. And then the Bravo rep would
Speaker 1: send certain people over because we couldn't get everybody from
Speaker 1: every cast, so we'd get like three or four people
Speaker 1: and like the first one, one of the first people
Speaker 1: to do the Red Carpet was Garcela. She was late,
Speaker 1: so it could have been a timing issue, but we
Speaker 1: were at the front of the carpet like you do
Speaker 1: us and then and she was short on the press line.
Speaker 1: But they did ask oursel and Garcelas said, no, she
Speaker 1: didn't have time. Yeah, probably she didn't have time and
Speaker 1: because she doesn't probably love me that much. But what's
Speaker 1: not to love about you? Even my friend how Dero
Speaker 1: loves you. Now. Can you believe we made a whole
Speaker 1: we I know you made up. She was talking you
Speaker 1: were talking about um, you know your melanoma, and she
Speaker 1: had talked to you about some scans and was just
Speaker 1: sweet nice. She actually text me like at last night,
Speaker 1: but you know that I'm in bed by then, and
Speaker 1: she wanted to update on how you were doing. So
Speaker 1: she was concerned and she was this, This is what
Speaker 1: I like the most about how to do Bro, now
Speaker 1: that I've actually really gotten to know her because I
Speaker 1: did her part cast years ago, which I can funded
Speaker 1: her on because I said, listen, you said you never
Speaker 1: met me when you said those things you know about
Speaker 1: me on your pot or you know that's all right?
Speaker 1: I asked jack Eddy on the pod and she goes,
Speaker 1: already was and like, oh that's right. A hundred podcasts,
Speaker 1: you forget. She's probably seven hundred. But that's what Heather said.
Speaker 1: But Heather was in on the joke. She goes, I know,
Speaker 1: I realized that and we laughed. And that's what all
Speaker 1: you want from a housewife is someone who's in on
Speaker 1: the joke. If you take yourself too seriously all the time,
Speaker 1: it gets old. And I liked that about her. Um
Speaker 1: and also you you did a video of our outfits
Speaker 1: flying home. Oh yeah, And they said, Teddy, why are
Speaker 1: you being judgmental of the way Tam was dressed. I
Speaker 1: was like, uh, did you see that? I didn't post
Speaker 1: a video of my own outfit. It was we literally
Speaker 1: got like three hours sleep. I literally I wore that outfit,
Speaker 1: the sweatsuit to bed. All I did was get up,
Speaker 1: brush my teeth and go to the airport. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you went out the last night. I did not go
Speaker 1: out out the last two nights. Heather Debraw and I
Speaker 1: went out and we were at the rooftop until it
Speaker 1: closed and we just sat there. We just started a
Speaker 1: table and talked. But there was a lot of champagne,
Speaker 1: lots of champs, lots of shamps. Okay, the next big
Speaker 1: question lots of people want to know is gen Shaw
Speaker 1: at Bravo con Well, where do we start? So so,
Speaker 1: for one thing, the glam room was in my room.
Speaker 1: So there was about four people getting glam coming in
Speaker 1: and out between Taylor, Vicky, myself, Teddy did a little
Speaker 1: glam who else, I don't know. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: people coming in and out. So my door was open.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew. Everybody knew that we did glam in room
Speaker 1: six tens. Yeah, there was like music, it was like
Speaker 1: a party. In this you know, two square foot hotel room,
Speaker 1: so who walks in? But gen Shaw, let me tell
Speaker 1: you life of the party had fun, joking laughing. At
Speaker 1: one point we did an Instagram live. Somebody grabbed my phone?
Speaker 1: Did it? I think your phone as well. We were
Speaker 1: doing lives from it. Um. She was very sweet. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that she saw that it was glam
Speaker 1: there and she goes, oh, you have glam for me? Yes, Jen,
Speaker 1: it was just for you. Got at the chair. My
Speaker 1: my people were doing her glam and um, and I
Speaker 1: had no idea she wasn't invited to ron. I had
Speaker 1: no idea. Well. Also she came with security, her jeweler
Speaker 1: and a therapist, a therapist which she kept making me
Speaker 1: talk to the therapist, which I was a little confused about.
Speaker 1: But then this is where I noison to be confused.
Speaker 1: He's kidding, true. I did ask. I said, did you
Speaker 1: bring your therapist so he can help prepare you mentally
Speaker 1: for once you go to jail? And she said yes. Um.
Speaker 1: But then she then talking She said that she was
Speaker 1: not going to jail, and the therapist was agreeing, and
Speaker 1: she said she wanted to go to watch What Happens live. Um.
Speaker 1: She did not tell us that she was uninvited. We
Speaker 1: had no idea, and so she was saying, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go to watch it happens live. I'm like, oh, cool,
Speaker 1: go with us, and Teddy's like, no, oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: know she wasn't invited. I think you knew she wasn't invited.
Speaker 1: But I knew from the beginning, like when she came
Speaker 1: in the way she came in and the way it
Speaker 1: was like this chaos. Then everybody started like hitting chit
Speaker 1: chatting about it, and I looked at him, ra I
Speaker 1: grabbed her arm. I said, you've already been fired once
Speaker 1: and now is not the time for it to happen again.
Speaker 1: We are not going with gin Shaw and we we
Speaker 1: made a run for it. Yeah. That she had said
Speaker 1: she was going to show up there, so um, now
Speaker 1: then she did not know she did not did she
Speaker 1: did show up to the rooftop, uh, And I saw
Speaker 1: where she confronted Andy and it looked like it was
Speaker 1: a very intense conversation. And then I didn't see her
Speaker 1: after that. I don't know if she left her what. Um,
Speaker 1: But she did tweet. Did you see her tweet? Which
Speaker 1: one she well, she tweeted one thing, something along the
Speaker 1: lines of like, I was paid to go to Bravo Con.
Speaker 1: I'm here because and I was like, now's not the
Speaker 1: time to double down on your lives. Right. Well, she's
Speaker 1: out there, which is very rich. She's saying that I'm
Speaker 1: a liar and that never happened. I'm like, we have
Speaker 1: it on video. How did you say it never happened?
Speaker 1: Hold on? What is she saying? Never? She said that
Speaker 1: that she never said that she was gonna h crash
Speaker 1: Bravo Con and that she was not uninvited to Bravo Con.
Speaker 1: And and I'm like, wait, we talked about it. Hold on,
Speaker 1: she said this is her tweet. Anyone believing I crashed
Speaker 1: anyone's party needs a reality check. I am the party. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm getting paid for Bravo Con. Stop worrying about where
Speaker 1: I'm at. If I wasn't at your event, part of
Speaker 1: your panel, then it wasn't worth my time. Thank you
Speaker 1: for keeping my name and your mouth and trending. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she did another one just about me. I
Speaker 1: didn't even save it with even worth of it, basically
Speaker 1: saying I used my platform to lie. I'm like, oh geez,
Speaker 1: that's really sounds solid coming from you. But overall I
Speaker 1: thought she was pleasant. I had no idea she was
Speaker 1: gonna get mad that I said that she wanted to
Speaker 1: bust into Bravo Con. I mean, I mean she might
Speaker 1: brought bust into. She didn't bust into the actual Bravo Con,
Speaker 1: but she busted and she couldn't get in. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: got into the hotel. I don't know how. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she had a room there or she was
Speaker 1: shocking up with somebody that she was walking the hallways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was doing She was doing the most. And that's
Speaker 1: a lot coming from me. It's a lot coming from me. Um.
Speaker 1: And for those of you guys who said that I
Speaker 1: boke into Bravo Con, not true. I was in the
Speaker 1: Bravo press room, the only podcast right that was in there,
Speaker 1: and I you know, granted, I was punked to do
Speaker 1: the Project Runway panel, but I think I did a
Speaker 1: decent job walk. My dress was beautiful, my glam was beautiful,
Speaker 1: and look beautiful all that I could. Um. The next
Speaker 1: question was about me growing up with Chef. I guess
Speaker 1: he posted a photo about us being childhood friends and
Speaker 1: everybody was in complete shock about that, Yes, how come
Speaker 1: I didn't know that because I don't like sit around
Speaker 1: talking about what great were you in? How long were you?
Speaker 1: What school were you at, what happened? I was at
Speaker 1: Hilton had Prep and we both lived in a town
Speaker 1: called Sea Pines and our houses were by the way.
Speaker 1: He also calls me Ted dro He's like Ted, was
Speaker 1: that your nickname? Only like from him and like his
Speaker 1: three like best friends like and so we were at
Speaker 1: one of the after parties. It was me and Chef
Speaker 1: and Madison and one of the new girls who was
Speaker 1: really nice, Olivia and somebody else, and Chef was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know hey when we were younger, and I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I wasn't one of the three hundred girls that he bowned.
Speaker 1: I could never have made out. Was he popular, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was popular, but in the way that like Chef
Speaker 1: was the guy that you went to to ask for
Speaker 1: for guy advice, Like, he was not the guy you
Speaker 1: were like pining after. So I think this this news
Speaker 1: Chef is it's interesting for me to watch. But he
Speaker 1: still was very pleasant to me. He didn't act like
Speaker 1: he had a big head when he saw me. He
Speaker 1: acted like the original Chef that I know, not like
Speaker 1: the chef that I'm assuming is airing on Southern Charm.
Speaker 1: I don't much happens life with him. And he was
Speaker 1: really nice. I think it's really nice. I think he's
Speaker 1: somebody that, you know, with a public platform, can get
Speaker 1: a lot of action and he does everything he can
Speaker 1: to get it. Plus his heart there he is. So
Speaker 1: can we talk about, um, your interaction with Heather McDonald. Okay,
Speaker 1: So my interaction with Uther McDonald. This was a lot
Speaker 1: happened night one for us. It was a messy night one,
Speaker 1: two and three. No, I was only at one and two. Um,
Speaker 1: so we were I was sitting next to Jeff Lewis
Speaker 1: and a couple other people. You were roaming around and
Speaker 1: I was sitting right next to No. You came later,
Speaker 1: I was already and and then you came and sat
Speaker 1: down like next to me, to the right in between
Speaker 1: me and Jeff Lewis, And then, uh, what's her doing it?
Speaker 1: Heather McDonald sat down and you guys like had an
Speaker 1: embraced but it was like like an embrace over each other,
Speaker 1: like you guys were forgiving each other. Well wait forgive.
Speaker 1: It's a very strong word. Um. She is the first
Speaker 1: time I have actually seen her since everything went down
Speaker 1: with the lawsuit. Um, We've had a few exchanges on
Speaker 1: social media. UM, but you know, it was the first
Speaker 1: time I saw and I was really close to her
Speaker 1: before everything happened with the lawsuit, and we didn't talk
Speaker 1: for I guess now it's going on close to four years.
Speaker 1: So when she came up, she gave eighteen yeah, three
Speaker 1: and a half years. So she came up to me
Speaker 1: and she gave me a hug, and before we could
Speaker 1: even say two words, Teddy leans in and goes, let
Speaker 1: me see if I remember exactly. You know, you put
Speaker 1: her through hell. You know you cost her a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Are you gonna pay her back? I mean?
Speaker 1: And I just went, I'm nothing if I'm not direct. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you were directed. Eddie thought, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: when you did that, I mean, she did cost me
Speaker 1: a lot of money. She did. But then either way,
Speaker 1: then you guys worked through an ish. But then I
Speaker 1: realized that I was getting somebody sent me a message
Speaker 1: when we because we did not have internet yesterday on
Speaker 1: the or two days ago whenever we flew home, I
Speaker 1: don't even know on the plane. And then I got
Speaker 1: out and I get this message from somebody. Heather's dragging
Speaker 1: you about the comment you made to her when she
Speaker 1: was hugging camera. We need your side of the story, girl,
Speaker 1: that's the entire story. I did text directly to Heather
Speaker 1: McDonald because like, I don't I don't need to like
Speaker 1: pussy foot around something like I'm not gonna go listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Just tell me what happened, she said,
Speaker 1: And she said sorry, and honestly, was the worst thing
Speaker 1: that happened in my career, the fact that the three
Speaker 1: of us were all sued. I hadn't hugged ham Or
Speaker 1: since two thousand eighteen, and I was so happy to
Speaker 1: see her. And then you immediately pointed to me and
Speaker 1: said you caused her a lot of pain. I hope
Speaker 1: you understand. I know you're a good friend to Tamra,
Speaker 1: so you thought you were being protective, but after four
Speaker 1: years of feeling terrible about it all, I was hoping
Speaker 1: just to move on. I'm very happy for you both
Speaker 1: and your successful podcast. And I responded, I get that,
Speaker 1: and I'm very sorry for my part. I know she
Speaker 1: was happy for the hug as well. Hope to see
Speaker 1: you on the pod soon. Pretty good. So you can
Speaker 1: handle things, you know, and then she wrote, thanks so much,
Speaker 1: let me know x ol. So that's my side of
Speaker 1: the story. There's not anymore to it. I was direct
Speaker 1: with her. I would rather always be a direct asshole
Speaker 1: than talk about you behind your back. So that's who
Speaker 1: I am. Uh. The next thing we need to talk
Speaker 1: about is the Joe Gorga Jennifer Aiden. Um. I do
Speaker 1: know that I saw a clip from Andy where he
Speaker 1: said that was absolutely what did you say, disgusting? Disgusting
Speaker 1: or horrible or horrible like he thinks it's horrible. Um.
Speaker 1: I watched an entire like two minutes uh TikTok from
Speaker 1: Jin Aiden's either assistant or manager, whoever it was that
Speaker 1: she was with, and she said, listen, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Jennifer was walking into the lobby. It was a bunch
Speaker 1: of men and including Joe Gorga and Melissa, and you know,
Speaker 1: words were being said back and forth. They're one of
Speaker 1: their male assistants got really close to Jin and you know,
Speaker 1: was saying inappropriate things and Jen threw her water at him.
Speaker 1: What I didn't really realize is that Jin doesn't really drink,
Speaker 1: Like she didn't have any alcohol when I was around her,
Speaker 1: and they all claimed this was water. Not that water
Speaker 1: is any different you're going to drink in somebody's face
Speaker 1: or something drinking somebody's face, but it definitely this situation
Speaker 1: is it's no good. Yeah, I heard security was called.
Speaker 1: Frank got in the middle of it. It was it
Speaker 1: was bad um and Andy. Andy's exact wording was it's
Speaker 1: gross gross. That's right, gross and it and it really is.
Speaker 1: And like here's the thing, if you want to be
Speaker 1: on a show to argue about these things and to
Speaker 1: go for it, then save it for them, because that
Speaker 1: was just I didn't really get it. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: well nothing makes me sad when I think about Teresa
Speaker 1: and Joe and where all this is going to go
Speaker 1: from there. Yeah. Well last night they aired um the
Speaker 1: Legends Ball on Pravo, and and I did have a
Speaker 1: little some words to say. I was called the stage
Speaker 1: with Jill Zarin about her leaking not leaking. She went
Speaker 1: out there and just told the world that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was coming back to the show. And Teddy, did
Speaker 1: you think I did a bad job? Dam Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Your first two statements were a little a
Speaker 1: little too aggressive for me, Like you you know, I
Speaker 1: forget exactly what I was looking and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: But then what you said after I was like, everyone
Speaker 1: started cheering and whooping and excited. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: why didn't Tam start with that? What was it that
Speaker 1: my very last one? She goes, I put it on
Speaker 1: my subscription. I go, yeah, and you made money off
Speaker 1: of me? Yeah, that was that was if you were
Speaker 1: to come in with that energy. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I did him hot because it pissed me off.
Speaker 1: She knew exactly what she was doing. She's the thirstiest
Speaker 1: housewife I've ever met in my life. She got the
Speaker 1: information from Vicky. I had told Vicky that I was
Speaker 1: coming back and because I wanted her to hear it
Speaker 1: from me instead of the press, and VICKI met with
Speaker 1: Jill the next day and told you was coming back,
Speaker 1: so she had confirmation. She got on a subscription part
Speaker 1: of Instagram and said she had breaking news and that
Speaker 1: I was coming back. And she didn't say it in
Speaker 1: a nice, sweet, polite way. She said it in a
Speaker 1: very negative way. And my friend Vicky's not happy or
Speaker 1: whatever she said, and um, it was rude and she
Speaker 1: wouldn't like it either. Andy and I were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to announce set. We're going over
Speaker 1: these different scenarios, and as we're doing that, she announced it.
Speaker 1: So it was just she announced it on a paid
Speaker 1: platform so that pfward she got money. So it's just
Speaker 1: like she tries to sugarcoat it. No, there's not sugarcoating
Speaker 1: about it. You should have called me, should have asked
Speaker 1: me first. Hold on, I'm dying because now I'm having
Speaker 1: flashbacks of walking in to the hotel room and Jill's
Speaker 1: there and what she said something to me like I
Speaker 1: like your pink hair, or I like your pot or something,
Speaker 1: and I turned around and I wrote, I go, I
Speaker 1: like your beef. I like because what is wrong with me?
Speaker 1: Because there's nothing else to like about her. That's then
Speaker 1: she went on Washing Heavens Slive and said I was
Speaker 1: the most overrated housewife. M hmm, I'm like, at least
Speaker 1: I'm a housewife, bitch. Well really heard um puppet. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. But that brings us to people that were
Speaker 1: upset to not be at Bravo Con, which is hold on,
Speaker 1: where where are we gotta scroll right down right here?
Speaker 1: Camille Grammar and Denise texting about Bravo Con. I heard
Speaker 1: a few ex housewives were asked to be at Bravo
Speaker 1: Con at hashtag bravocon at Bravo TV. The real Camille
Speaker 1: ge wonder why we weren't asked to be there? Fans
Speaker 1: didn't want us? Question Mark. Then Camille writes, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Right then, Camille, I know, right, I know. We have
Speaker 1: had a lot to say, smiley face. And then conveniently
Speaker 1: they also post a picture Camille and Denise had lunch today.
Speaker 1: Wonder what they talked about, and then they said, maybe
Speaker 1: we should do a podcast together. That could be fun.
Speaker 1: Let's think of a name. I that's so childish. They
Speaker 1: were obviously upset that you were going and you and
Speaker 1: they were not going. They're clearly not on Bravo anymore,
Speaker 1: so there really would be no reason for them to
Speaker 1: be invited. You were by it because we are the
Speaker 1: number one housewife podcast out there, and we do a
Speaker 1: lot of podcasting with Bravo's permission, so it only made sense.
Speaker 1: And you're part of the press line. I obviously couldn't
Speaker 1: do that with you because they had me on other
Speaker 1: panels that you did an amazing job, so go second.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that Camille goes out of her
Speaker 1: way to then try to bring up somebody's esthetics from
Speaker 1: online when you can find a pictures of anybody looking
Speaker 1: not their best online, Believe me, you can find one
Speaker 1: right now. And and I'm sorry, her personality is so
Speaker 1: nasty that takes away from her looks. But but but
Speaker 1: what you see, what you find is a fact that
Speaker 1: she has no clothes on. If you google her name, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could pull old pigs of Camille from years ago too,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately the focus isn't on her face. M hm.
Speaker 1: So you know, like, here's the thing, do the most
Speaker 1: if you If you guys want to plod, you should.
Speaker 1: I hope it's successful, but you don't have to like
Speaker 1: trying to dog people out in the in the midst
Speaker 1: of it. Um. But I'm glad they enjoyed lunch together
Speaker 1: because and also the chicks with them. It's Camille cannot
Speaker 1: go anywhere without her. It's her assistant that she follows me.
Speaker 1: Remember she was the only person that was not a
Speaker 1: housewife that came to Andy's baby shower. Oh yes, Camille
Speaker 1: cannot show up one place by herself. Yeah, so anyhoo,
Speaker 1: I think that's where Camille blocked me was that the
Speaker 1: baby shower? How about dort So I was actually on
Speaker 1: this panel. What happened was Heaven's liveld on. Before we
Speaker 1: even get to that, we have to start with I
Speaker 1: was had already sent in a message to dere This
Speaker 1: is way before Erica said what she said where I
Speaker 1: was annoyed at Deres because they asked was the most
Speaker 1: unfashionable housewife? Um, and she picked you and she was
Speaker 1: like uh and then she's like listen and she's like
Speaker 1: teddy and I like text her like what the as
Speaker 1: to read? Like does she mean on that panel or
Speaker 1: did she mean in general? What did you know? This
Speaker 1: was not on the Project one Way panel. This was
Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live Later And she immediately apologized.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm so sorry, Like, but that was
Speaker 1: nothing that was like shade. It was low hanging fruit
Speaker 1: compared to what Erica said. This was the final night
Speaker 1: of Bravo Con and the last Watch What Happens Live
Speaker 1: at ten o'clock at night, and it was all about
Speaker 1: shady comments one liners. Girls that have you know, shady
Speaker 1: comments all the time. Why Heather Depo was on that panel,
Speaker 1: I didn't know she didn't know why she was on.
Speaker 1: It was funny the whole time she's looking why am
Speaker 1: I here? Um? But Erica? They asked who would be
Speaker 1: the next couple to divorce? And here's the thing, this
Speaker 1: is what I want you guys to remember. Eyes. You
Speaker 1: have a hundred and forty seven other people at Bravo
Speaker 1: Colon you can choose from. You did not need to
Speaker 1: pick from your own cap Well, I wouldn't have picked anybody.
Speaker 1: That's just a harsh thing to say. So, but first
Speaker 1: she goes, I don't want to say anything because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be mean, and then she said, could
Speaker 1: I have nothing to lose? She got out, He got
Speaker 1: out of her seat, walked to the end of the
Speaker 1: stage and said p K and dorrite and she turned
Speaker 1: around and walked away, and everybody went. Now, I didn't
Speaker 1: think she was joking at the time, but she has
Speaker 1: sent a comment on Instagram or somebody's page and said, um,
Speaker 1: she was joking, where's your humor or something like that,
Speaker 1: or well, it's because first Dreik commented on something and
Speaker 1: she said, misery loves company. What else can I say?
Speaker 1: Our friends as that truly know us, know what we
Speaker 1: have and who we are? And then p K wrote
Speaker 1: something else and he said, Erica Jane thought her husband
Speaker 1: was in a sense, she thought the ankle is more
Speaker 1: important than the brain. She thought she should keep the earrings.
Speaker 1: Now she thinks to read and I are next to
Speaker 1: split up. Here's a quick bit of management advice. Stop thinking.
Speaker 1: Then Erico writes, when did you get so sensitive? You know? Damn?
Speaker 1: While I was joking, what does the ankle thing mean?
Speaker 1: Remember when she said she didn't want Tom to go
Speaker 1: back and get the brain whatever it was he was
Speaker 1: supposed to get done to his brain because he had
Speaker 1: broken his ankle. No, I don't remember that, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was a big, huge part of the story because like,
Speaker 1: why would you choose to fix somebody's ankle before you
Speaker 1: would choose to fix somebody's brain. To go into this
Speaker 1: headline makes that makes um all the sunse Heather Brow
Speaker 1: claims Erica Jane was the rudest to her out of
Speaker 1: all the housewives from all franchises. During the Real House
Speaker 1: of Orange County panel at Provocan on Sunday, the reality
Speaker 1: star explained that she tried to say hi to Jane
Speaker 1: after the watch What Happens Live Legends Ball taping, but
Speaker 1: she was giving the cold shoulder. Now, I am shocked
Speaker 1: that Heather. Heather hardly ever says a negative thing about anybody,
Speaker 1: so she must have been really bothered by it. Um.
Speaker 1: Erica was super nice to me. Before the last taping
Speaker 1: of Watching Heapens Live, I sat down with her. Um
Speaker 1: there was I got kind of ambushed by this blogger
Speaker 1: or somebody trying to get me to answer questions about
Speaker 1: Erica's situation, and I said, no, go, I don't know
Speaker 1: what outlet you are with, but I'm not talking about this.
Speaker 1: So we talked about that and super sweet. But Dare
Speaker 1: recalled how the shading moment allegedly went down to the
Speaker 1: crowd mimicking James look of disinterest disinterest. However, Tamra Judge
Speaker 1: and Emily Simpson, who were both on stage with Jabrow,
Speaker 1: quickly came to james defense. Erica was so nice to me.
Speaker 1: Judge clapped back. It's not really clapped back. I mean
Speaker 1: it's like they're making it sound like I'm fighting with
Speaker 1: Heather about this. I don't even remember being in the
Speaker 1: same room talking about this, but she was super nice
Speaker 1: to me, and I just go off. What how people
Speaker 1: treat me, and Emily agreed. I mean, I think here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, yes yesterday, before I went to the
Speaker 1: doctor's appointment, one of the first people to call me
Speaker 1: and see if I need anything was Erica Jane. She
Speaker 1: it can be a really good person, and you know
Speaker 1: she can when when somebody needs something, she can be
Speaker 1: there for you, and I appreciate her for that. But
Speaker 1: what I do think, I think this was crossing a line.
Speaker 1: And what I've been reading, like on you know online,
Speaker 1: is that this was a way to ensure drama coming
Speaker 1: into next season because contracts are coming up. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's true. I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not under contract, sham. I know that
Speaker 1: you're friends with everybody, but I do know that we
Speaker 1: as a group are not texting right now, and that's
Speaker 1: the first time that's happened in a very little breakup
Speaker 1: of the fox Furst by the Foxes are not all
Speaker 1: texting in one group text currently. Oh uh. And I
Speaker 1: did see Cathy Hilton. She was very sweet to me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what talking about that, Erica diss You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit earlier with Mariso.
Speaker 1: There's so much going on, and you're pulled in so
Speaker 1: many different directions, and you have to be here, and
Speaker 1: you have to be there, and you have to go there,
Speaker 1: and you're late, and people want to take pictures and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I mean, sometimes you're just overwhelmed. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have to take the dissing
Speaker 1: pretty lightly unless they're like blatantly rude. Well, I know.
Speaker 1: The part that I was the most embarrassed about was
Speaker 1: any time I had to go to the restroom because
Speaker 1: the lines were so long, they would like take an
Speaker 1: escort with me and take to the front of the line,
Speaker 1: and then you feel like such a nashole. And then
Speaker 1: I would try to take like a thousand pictures on
Speaker 1: the way to the like any person. Everybody's like, can
Speaker 1: I get a picture? So I tried to be as
Speaker 1: nice as I could, but you feel like such a jerk.
Speaker 1: But there's no other restrooms and they need you back
Speaker 1: by atific times, Like if there was one point they
Speaker 1: were like, and he's waiting for you, you you need to
Speaker 1: get back, And I was like, but that's so that's
Speaker 1: always a little kind. We literally they were pulled from
Speaker 1: every direction, and I there was a there was a
Speaker 1: lot of lines to take pictures, and obviously we couldn't
Speaker 1: do them all. And I felt so guilty and bad
Speaker 1: because people definitely waited in line. So I tried to
Speaker 1: jump in the crowd and walk the line and just
Speaker 1: do selfies, you know, really quick. But for anybody that
Speaker 1: didn't get a picture, I'm sorry. For anyone that didn't
Speaker 1: get a picture. You can find Tamaron Cameo at that
Speaker 1: reminds me of six cameras to do. Um. Then okay,
Speaker 1: this do mob post about Bravo con Bravo CONTI if
Speaker 1: you're interested. Cathy Hildan Sutton Strack needed to be kept
Speaker 1: apart for undisclosed reason, Caroline Brooks and Chanel I on
Speaker 1: DUBI Housewives nearly scratched each other's eyes out backstage. I
Speaker 1: may have had something to do with that. God. Remember
Speaker 1: I can't tell this because I can't ruin their upcoming season.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember. I was in the middle all
Speaker 1: that going back and remember I don't remember that. Um
Speaker 1: and then they had to be pulled apart twice by
Speaker 1: several people. I had said something to Brooke, I thought
Speaker 1: her not being able to forge buy her own dress. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember that, I remember now. Then Brandy Glanville absolutely
Speaker 1: shmash saying, so I'm not so great, thanks backstage whatever.
Speaker 1: She You know what, Brandy has always been nice to
Speaker 1: me these things, even when she has a hot mess.
Speaker 1: And then Randy is always nice to me. And then
Speaker 1: the last one is Erica continuing to hint rumors regarding
Speaker 1: p K dRIT Kyle and Mauricio swinging, and I am sorry,
Speaker 1: come on, like stop it, stop that. Like I asked
Speaker 1: Erica when she was on the pot, you know what
Speaker 1: I want to see next year from you is I
Speaker 1: want to see you dating. I want to see things
Speaker 1: about your personal life. If it shouldn't be about the drama,
Speaker 1: I want to see all the other things. If she's
Speaker 1: willing to be slanging it right now and everybody else's
Speaker 1: personal life, you know, you know, assuming that you know
Speaker 1: she's on, then I want to I need to see
Speaker 1: that from her because we haven't seen it all these years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I'd love to see your dating. Can I
Speaker 1: talk about my most embarrassing moment at PROVOCN Yes you can. Well.
Speaker 1: Evidently Friday night, I had too much a drink and
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with Jersey Girls, Potomac Girls, Um, Karen, Giselle, Robin,
Speaker 1: and I'm even. Candy walked past me the next day
Speaker 1: and said, girl, you're on fire last night, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hate that. I'm like, what did I say? What
Speaker 1: did I do? Oh my god? And you know it's
Speaker 1: like one of those things you don't remember. Well. Two
Speaker 1: days later, we're going to the sushi restaurant and we
Speaker 1: passed Giselle and Robin sitting down eating, and of first,
Speaker 1: I have to tell one thing. We had just squashed
Speaker 1: our issues. I had already had them on the pod.
Speaker 1: I had already told them how much we loved them.
Speaker 1: We all agreed, we made up, we hugged, we talked
Speaker 1: about the podcast, lifting each other up, and well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love them. I don't have I mean,
Speaker 1: I have any reason not to like them. And I
Speaker 1: guess the question was, Tarma, you don't watch a show. No.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a lot of housewife shows before I
Speaker 1: started the pub, and then last year, of course I
Speaker 1: watched them all. So I just started watching Potomac and
Speaker 1: I love it. So I walked up and they're like, Tara,
Speaker 1: They're like you you were best friends. Last night she
Speaker 1: was pointing Gaselle's pointing to Robin. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: not remember any of it, didn't remember any of it.
Speaker 1: And she looks at me, Robin doesn't says what's my name?
Speaker 1: And I, oh, no, Giselle said, I go, well, Giselle,
Speaker 1: I know Giselle. We did a photo shoot seven years ago.
Speaker 1: And what's her name? Um? Actually, just for the record,
Speaker 1: I said, what's what's her name? Asshole? Um um um.
Speaker 1: And then I look at Teddy. Teddy goes starts with
Speaker 1: an R. I go Robin and she goes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and I go, oh my god. So now I feel
Speaker 1: like a total asshole. Like hanging out with somebody and
Speaker 1: not knowing their name to me is like the rudest
Speaker 1: thing ever. Or when you meet somebody and you're like
Speaker 1: ten times they're like, oh so nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Like that again again. So I apologize to Robin. We
Speaker 1: have let's do a collab. We want to have reasonably
Speaker 1: shady on with us. We love them. They're so much fun.
Speaker 1: They're really all the Potoma girls were really fun. And
Speaker 1: by the way, they probably have both of them have
Speaker 1: the most beautiful eyes studying um this We're gonna go
Speaker 1: quickly through because once we get to it, it'll be
Speaker 1: a lot. But the Real Housewives of New York City
Speaker 1: reboot cast revealed. The castors of New York City Season
Speaker 1: fourteen was announced during a tape and of Watch What
Speaker 1: Happens Live at Bravo on Sunday. The new cast members
Speaker 1: are Jenna Alliance, Jessel Tank, Uba Hassan, Lizzie Sevetski side
Speaker 1: of Silva, and Aaron Dana Lichie and I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing Lichi correctly. However, they are hot. M
Speaker 1: This is a group. I cannot wait to see these
Speaker 1: girls in action. They all look like they have a
Speaker 1: lot to give. They seem like different personality types. I
Speaker 1: am excited, But then there's what Ramona Singer said. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. There's one person that is not excited
Speaker 1: about the spinoff at all. That's Ramona Singer. They don't
Speaker 1: call her the Singer Singer for nothing. Real Houses in
Speaker 1: New York City alum Ramona Singer shared her unfiltered thoughts
Speaker 1: on Bravo's plan for the legacy spinoff that features the
Speaker 1: o G stars of the Bravo reality show. I've been there,
Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean, never say no, never
Speaker 1: say never, She told hosts Carlos King during his Reality
Speaker 1: with the King podcast. What was he there? I didn't
Speaker 1: see I didn't see him either. Yeah, but I also
Speaker 1: feel like the Legacy show, how could it be really good?
Speaker 1: The people they are going to bring back are the
Speaker 1: people they didn't want to renew anyways. Um so, now
Speaker 1: so now what are you going to call it? The
Speaker 1: loser show? The loser Legacy? Well, okay, so there was
Speaker 1: there was a rum or out there that I was
Speaker 1: overheard say I f and hate Ramona, which I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't remember saying it. So if you don't remember,
Speaker 1: did it happen? Yes, I did. I don't hate her.
Speaker 1: I don't hate her at all. You just don't like
Speaker 1: her much? No, I no, I like her. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't like some of the things that I've heard
Speaker 1: she's done. But I'm sure she doesn't like some of
Speaker 1: the things I heard too. But I don't have a
Speaker 1: I don't have a bad relationship with her, So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, all right. I think that's
Speaker 1: all we've got. I mean, we could probably go on
Speaker 1: for decades off so much that happened. Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: get to it was unbelievable. We had so much fun. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning it. If you are missing
Speaker 1: any pieces, make sure that you go back and listen to.
Speaker 1: I think we had thirteen episodes from Bravo con Ore.
Speaker 1: Orange County one was so good, Our Potomac one so good.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we the first time we had
Speaker 1: any OC girls on the show in a year, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I am now in a better place
Speaker 1: to be able to have an unbiased conversation about Orange
Speaker 1: County now that I've met your entire cast, so I'm ready. Yes,
Speaker 1: in a shocking turn of events, we had too much
Speaker 1: to talk about on Pokon. We could continue to talk
Speaker 1: for hours more. So we are going to end this
Speaker 1: podcast here and we will be back to drop another
Speaker 1: episode on Potomac later on