Speaker 1: A late fifteen to ten touched up sucker.
Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome in to a draft day edition
Speaker 2: of Chargers Weekly. We're taping this a day later than
Speaker 2: we normally do because we don't want to date ourselves money.
Speaker 2: We had a lot to get into. Quintin Johnson is
Speaker 2: a Charger. I first want to start by complimenting you
Speaker 2: and Adrian for hosting a heck of a party at Westfield.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun. Really, it was easy for
Speaker 3: me just because we had great energy. Charger fans are incredible.
Speaker 3: It's the West Side is not easy to navigate, and
Speaker 3: we know that it's in the giant mall.
Speaker 1: They were able to find us.
Speaker 3: The Chargers did a great job of setting up a
Speaker 3: really cool, felt like a backyard in the middle of
Speaker 3: the Westfield Mall. You know, bars all over the place,
Speaker 3: great food and you know, good entertainment.
Speaker 1: So it was it was easy.
Speaker 3: The energy was there, The fact that all these guys
Speaker 3: came out, you know, justin Herbert Derwin, James Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 3: Antonio Gates, Ladania. To have Ladanian Tomlinson on stage, how
Speaker 3: about that when they made their selection, was just you
Speaker 3: can't you can't script that you know, the greatest player
Speaker 3: in the history of TCU, and someone that's in the
Speaker 3: conversation is the greatest charger ever is on stage when
Speaker 3: they opt to pick a kid out of TCU. It
Speaker 3: was really cool to be part of it, and it
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun, and so kudos to everyone
Speaker 3: that put it together, but especially because I had a
Speaker 3: blast talking with the fans and all the people that
Speaker 3: came out. I really really enjoyed it. I threw out
Speaker 3: my arm because of all those stupid mini footballs that
Speaker 3: weigh about six ounces apiece trying to get some velocity
Speaker 3: behind it. My arm is dead today.
Speaker 2: Dude, you had you literally had more passing attempts than
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert had all season. Every time I looked up
Speaker 2: at the stage, Money was throwing an out route of
Speaker 2: posts a go.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, you know, the the elixir, the lubricant
Speaker 3: of conversation. I had a single beer and then I
Speaker 3: think everybody just felt like, oh, all right, well there's
Speaker 3: no rules now, And next thing you know, I got
Speaker 3: people asking for passes from two decks up, people way
Speaker 3: in the back, and of course, being an idiot, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'll get it there and next thing, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: just trying to figure out, all right, how do I
Speaker 3: get this thing to sail? And managed to get a
Speaker 3: couple up to the third decks. I was pretty proud
Speaker 3: of myself. But guess what I'm paying for it today,
Speaker 3: paying forth, absolutely paying for it today.
Speaker 2: You're right though, man, Hey, the fans make it. It's
Speaker 2: always a pleasure catch it up with you guys. A
Speaker 2: lot of listeners of the podcast, and we appreciate it
Speaker 2: so very much. So much to get into, man, I mean,
Speaker 2: the draft was was wild from the beginning, a lot
Speaker 2: of unexpected picks. We'll get into the draft overall, but
Speaker 2: at twenty one, overall, everything was lining up with what
Speaker 2: we want for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The best tight end was available Jackson Smith and Jig,
Speaker 2: but it was a guy that I didn't think, we.
Speaker 1: Know, I never thought he was a Chargers.
Speaker 2: So at twenty one overall, you had really your choice
Speaker 2: of wide receiver and tight end, and they decide that
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston from TCU is the guy. Your reaction to
Speaker 2: that pick, you know we mentioned him on the podcast.
Speaker 2: I don't think we mentioned him as much as a
Speaker 2: guy like Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison or Kincaid or Mayor,
Speaker 2: but he's the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest. I was surprised.
Speaker 3: I was, But then when you start to unpack it
Speaker 3: and think about it, you know, teams have types. There
Speaker 3: are teams that you know, this is what they like.
Speaker 3: And we talked about this last year with the Chiefs
Speaker 3: when they moved on from Tyreek Hill and people were
Speaker 3: saying that it's going to change the offense completely. And
Speaker 3: I remember getting into this with you. We talked about
Speaker 3: I think they looked at the Chargers and they were like, hey,
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen sixty three, Mike Williams almost six for we
Speaker 3: need bigger guys. You know, that's where this league is
Speaker 3: headed is. And you look at what they have in
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and what they've built, you know, with that trio
Speaker 3: of receivers, they're all six foot two or taller, and
Speaker 3: so sort of after my initial surprise, and we'll dig
Speaker 3: into it, I have no problem. You know, we've been
Speaker 3: talking about this for three months now and everybody knows
Speaker 3: what my order was and that I never mentioned Quinton Johnston.
Speaker 3: But I think that's sort of what ultimately this came
Speaker 3: down to, is the Chargers, Tom Telesco, Brandon Staley. They
Speaker 3: like big guys, that's what they want, and so they're
Speaker 3: not interested in five foot ten, you know, Zay Flowers.
Speaker 3: They're not interested in one hundred and seventy pound Jordan Addison.
Speaker 3: They wanted the big body. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: just to dig into it now, I don't think Quentin
Speaker 3: Johnson has the same skills level of skills that Zay
Speaker 3: Flowers does. But Jay Flowers is not six foot three
Speaker 3: and capable of running you know, four five forty. So
Speaker 3: there's you're you're gonna make trade offs. You know, there
Speaker 3: are so few perfect receivers out there, so it's kind
Speaker 3: of it's kind of a what do we want, what
Speaker 3: do we like? What do we think is the most
Speaker 3: effective with our quarterback with the scheme that we're gonna
Speaker 3: be calling. And clearly they wanted the big body because
Speaker 3: that's the only that's That's just kind of the way
Speaker 3: I break it down.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: We were on stage and I said, Ladanian Tomlinson's up there,
Speaker 3: and Dalton kin Kaid is available, and Michael Mayer's available,
Speaker 3: and Zay Flowers is available and Jordan Addison's available, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, holy crap, I cannot fulfill the draft propose
Speaker 3: way and and LT's like, it's Zay Flowers. He's like,
Speaker 3: it's Zay Flowers. They're gonna take Zay Flowers, you know.
Speaker 3: And he's saying that on stage. And it was funny
Speaker 3: just to see how excited he got when they took Quinton,
Speaker 3: because I think nobody had projected Quinton to be you know,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say nobody. A lot of people liked him
Speaker 3: more than I know. Chris Simms liked him a lot.
Speaker 3: He was not a big Jordan Adison guy. J Flowers
Speaker 3: was his favorite was, but I think Quinton was his
Speaker 3: number two. So I don't think it was like it
Speaker 3: wasn't a crazy pick at all. It wasn't o a
Speaker 3: left field like I said, I think it's just one
Speaker 3: of those This is the type of receiver that the
Speaker 3: Chargers prefer, and they'll coach up. They think they can
Speaker 3: coach up some of the issues, some of the things
Speaker 3: that people had issues with. And I guess the one
Speaker 3: that you can't. You can't coach five foot ten to
Speaker 3: be six foot three. That doesn't work. You can't coach
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison from one hundred and seventy pounds to two
Speaker 3: hundred and ten pounds. That doesn't work either, So I
Speaker 3: guess that's the way they look at it. We'd rather
Speaker 3: have the body type and let's see if we can
Speaker 3: fix the drops. Let's see if we can fix a
Speaker 3: lot of those body catches and turn him into a
Speaker 3: more complete receiver. You know, the guy's big play. I mean,
Speaker 3: he had some explosive plays, big plays downfield, but I
Speaker 3: think those were just kind of the concerns that you
Speaker 3: assume they feel really good about being able to get
Speaker 3: right and end up with this giant receiver that's super fast,
Speaker 3: that's going to be a nightmare to cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they they drafted his traits too right,
Speaker 2: six ' three towo a weight. They talked about his suddenness,
Speaker 2: his yards after the catch came up a lot. And
Speaker 2: I was going back to DJ's top fifty. I think
Speaker 2: it was his last top fifty. He compared Quentin Johnson
Speaker 2: to Mike Williams. So they're building a basketball team, right,
Speaker 2: They're building a basketball team with Everett and with Mike
Speaker 2: and Keenan and Palmer. So I look at the pick
Speaker 2: and I go back to what you said last week,
Speaker 2: and I think you summed it up perfectly. I think
Speaker 2: they even used it for the promo. Justin Herbert makes
Speaker 2: good wide receivers great, and he makes great wide receivers
Speaker 2: all pros. I go back to twenty twenty, his rookie
Speaker 2: year when t Billy was catching everything. Jalen Geiton was
Speaker 2: becoming a household name because of Justin Herbert. So if
Speaker 2: this guy can get open, and you know, if Keenan
Speaker 2: or Myke is doubled and Quentin Johnson can get open
Speaker 2: and they can kind of use him in situations that
Speaker 2: maximize his potential, I think they got a really good pick,
Speaker 2: and I have to I'd be remiss by to mention
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore. You know, Kellen Moore probably had a big
Speaker 2: say in the wide receiver that he preferred and he
Speaker 2: wanted for his offense. So Quentin Johnson seems to fit
Speaker 2: the bill. You know, we were talking about big twelve
Speaker 2: receivers before we came on. Ceedee Lamb is a big
Speaker 2: twelve receiver that had some success at the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore. So's it's interesting because these mock draft
Speaker 2: exercises and we're consumed by this draft evaluation process, and
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you know, we lock in on guys
Speaker 2: that we like and other people like, and you don't know,
Speaker 2: like you know, like we mentioned Zion Johnson last your
Speaker 2: Money a little bit, but I don't think we actually
Speaker 2: like said, okay, wow, this could be a reality. You know,
Speaker 2: we were talking about Jameson Williams and some of these
Speaker 2: other guys. So it's exciting to kind of see it
Speaker 2: come to life. I was very surprised that a guy
Speaker 2: like Dalton Kinkaid blew with the Buffalo Bills well and
Speaker 2: get to that.
Speaker 3: They were like, we're not waiting go get them, and man,
Speaker 3: they got to play Chargers, have to play them in
Speaker 3: the regular season. If they want to get to the
Speaker 3: super Bowl, very well, may have to play in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I really, you know how I feel about that guy.
Speaker 3: And I know tight end is not a premium position
Speaker 3: like wide receiver is money.
Speaker 1: Real quick.
Speaker 2: This is my this is my thought on that on
Speaker 2: that position. There's so many good guys that are gonna
Speaker 2: go today. Right, Michael Mayer didn't get drafted in the
Speaker 2: first round.
Speaker 3: You talk about it, but I think I think Mayor
Speaker 3: to me. And again, you know how I feel about Kinkaid.
Speaker 3: To me, Kinkaid is on an island. I felt like
Speaker 3: there was and I know there's people that are like,
Speaker 3: oh no, I like Mayor more than King Kid, And
Speaker 3: that's fine for me. Kin Kid is he's a unicorn.
Speaker 3: He's Travis Kelcey. He's and again I'm biased, I get it,
Speaker 3: but I just I cannot believe the league let him
Speaker 3: go to the Bills. It's and that's the thing, like
Speaker 3: you know, you you and you end up getting sort
Speaker 3: of emotionally, it's confirmation bias, and now you have to
Speaker 3: reset your confirmation bias. And it sounds terrible, but it's like, no,
Speaker 3: I want kink to be terrible now. I want to
Speaker 3: be completely wrong about this because he's on the Bills.
Speaker 3: I want Zay Flowers to continue to be a run
Speaker 3: of terrible draft picks at the receiver position by the Ravens.
Speaker 1: These are all.
Speaker 3: AFC, Like the AFC is already stacked with with quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: You have only six teams make the playoffs. Like I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna let me quickly do a little exercise here.
Speaker 3: Only six teams make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's kind does anybody want it in the NFC. By
Speaker 2: the way, besides THEA, does anybody want it?
Speaker 3: Well, why even bother Nolan's the fact that freaking that
Speaker 3: that somehow Nolan Smith lasted until thirty one and the
Speaker 3: Eagles not Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith just.
Speaker 1: Get rid of it.
Speaker 3: That like that that the Eagles might as well be
Speaker 3: my seven thousand to win the NFC. I don't know
Speaker 3: how they freaking pull it off every year, but you
Speaker 3: know what, it's it's what happens.
Speaker 2: But and they got a tampering They got a tampering
Speaker 2: pick from Arizona exactly.
Speaker 1: So here's my thing. Let's count them.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert. That is
Speaker 3: nine quarterbacks, three of them are not going to make
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Nine quarterbacks, three aren't going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And now you're talking about Zay Flowers going to the Ravens.
Speaker 3: You're talking about uh Dalton Kincaid going to the Bills.
Speaker 3: And that's and those are two of our Thank goodness,
Speaker 3: Bijeon ended up going to the Falcons.
Speaker 1: You know, I was worried that.
Speaker 3: I was, honestly, I had this weird little you know,
Speaker 3: and I think the fact that Tyree Wilson slid a
Speaker 3: little bit because of that Liz Frank injury to the Raiders,
Speaker 3: that could be a nightmare him and Max Crosby, you know,
Speaker 3: because we know Chandler Jones had some issues last year.
Speaker 3: But I was starting to think about it. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I could totally see them taking Bijeon. It's the Patriots way.
Speaker 3: It's you know, you zig we zag, you know, it's
Speaker 3: let's let's just figure it out and and bring him in.
Speaker 1: And we wasted a.
Speaker 2: Lot of time on Bejeon. He wasn't gonna be there
Speaker 2: twenty one.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, again, it almost always goes back to and I
Speaker 3: hate saying it because it's such a weird word, but
Speaker 3: it just goes back to the tape. Like when you
Speaker 3: watch Bijon Robinson play football, it's like.
Speaker 1: There's I don't care.
Speaker 3: I have zero issue with what the position is and
Speaker 3: the financial implication. It's like, well, you can't take a
Speaker 3: guy that high because now he's one of the highest
Speaker 3: paid running backs.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care. Arthur Smith's gonna hand him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna touch the ball twenty five times a game.
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith had Dereck Henry and Tennessee. He knows what
Speaker 2: AFC championship games.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. How about Jamior Gibbs going to the Lions at twelve?
Speaker 3: I was, I was a surprise when they signed David Montgomery.
Speaker 3: They have DeAndre Swift. They like, yeah, al saw.
Speaker 2: Somebody tweet this, and and and they're right when you
Speaker 2: when you think about how it played out for the
Speaker 2: Lions and the Eagles, the Lions could have had the
Speaker 2: same exact hal that the Eagles got with Carter and
Speaker 2: and Nolan's got that if they just if they just
Speaker 2: got a great call, you know, and and they got
Speaker 2: they got an inside linebacker at a running back and
Speaker 2: they had as they have a stud running back. I
Speaker 2: know they lost Jamal Williams, but it's it's just Ey
Speaker 2: the beholder man, like, we don't know. All thirty two
Speaker 2: teams are different. They have a different evaluation, they have
Speaker 2: a different philosophy, and that's how the draft plays out.
Speaker 2: Like seeing seeing Gibbs at twelve, I was like, okay, man,
Speaker 2: this is this is officially off the rails and it
Speaker 2: was good for the Chargers, and that the wide receivers
Speaker 2: and the tight ends kept slipping on. It goes to
Speaker 2: me money that they wanted. They wanted John was their
Speaker 2: number one receiver.
Speaker 3: Clearly, It's very clearly, and that's fine. Like I said,
Speaker 3: it's it's totally fine. They they you know more about
Speaker 3: this than I do. They dig into it a lot deeper.
Speaker 3: Teams have so much more information than we do that
Speaker 3: there's just so much more available to them than than
Speaker 3: we get. For me, I like to watch guys play games.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been covering the draft for a long time,
Speaker 3: and so I have some of these and it's probably
Speaker 3: not healthy. I have some of these built in biases
Speaker 3: about certain schools or certain conferences and how often we
Speaker 3: see certain position groups perform at a high level in
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm I'm upfront with that.
Speaker 3: I cop to that, you know, And that's part of
Speaker 3: the bias that I have, you know, I like, I like.
Speaker 1: Getting guys from the SEC. You know.
Speaker 3: I think when you when you go through if you're
Speaker 3: just to go through the stats and you know, if
Speaker 3: I'll pull it up right now, like let's just go
Speaker 3: through the receiving stats. So these are just biases that
Speaker 3: you have to you have to get them away from you, right,
Speaker 3: Like you've got to be able to separate, Like, Hey,
Speaker 3: this guy could be the greatest receiver in the history
Speaker 3: of football, but you've counted him out because he's in
Speaker 3: the Big twelve. And you don't think the Big twelve
Speaker 3: produces elite receivers. Like when I go through it, here's
Speaker 3: SEC Tyreek Hill technically SEC before he got kicked out
Speaker 3: of school and slipped to the fourth round becuse she
Speaker 3: was a terrible person. Fresno State SEC. Stefan Diggs. I
Speaker 3: think Maryland was ACC at the time. I don't think
Speaker 3: they were Big ten. Yet there's CD Lambs, So there's
Speaker 3: your Big twelve, Jalen Wattle SEC. Travis Kelce at eight
Speaker 3: and like that's the whole outlier thing with Dalton Kincaid,
Speaker 3: DeVante Smith SEC. Tara McLaurin Big ten A Monro Pac twelve,
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper SEC, Mike Evans SEC.
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk.
Speaker 3: Them don't count that although sec A and m Right,
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, Ohio State DK, metcalf Ole, Miss Jamar Chase Lsu,
Speaker 3: Chris alave Osu like that's you see where receivers are.
Speaker 1: Made, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's again it's just a bias. It's a it's
Speaker 3: a pernicious seed that's planted in my brain that I've
Speaker 3: got to be able to ignore because again, I think
Speaker 3: the best comparison and we talked about it last night,
Speaker 3: Chris is look at what the Bengals have and look
Speaker 3: at what a complete nightmare they are to cover and
Speaker 3: wide receiver with Tyler Boyd T Higgins and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: It's a nightmare because you can't have a small corner,
Speaker 3: you just you can't. These guys are too big, and
Speaker 3: that's what the Chargers are gonna throw out there. And
Speaker 3: to me, that's very exciting like to be to be
Speaker 3: And remember, this is a guy that's gonna have a
Speaker 3: ton of one on one opportunities. Man, you got a
Speaker 3: six foot three high, four to four wide receiver, it's
Speaker 3: gonna get a ton of one on ones. And he's
Speaker 3: got Justin Herbert and that freaking cannon throwing the ball
Speaker 3: down the field. Because you can't afford to single cover
Speaker 3: Mike Williams or Keenan Allen on a third down. This
Speaker 3: guy's gonna get freaking single cover. He's gonna have the
Speaker 3: chance to make some really big plays and that that
Speaker 3: part of it is exciting. You know, you want a
Speaker 3: guy with some size when you're pushing that ball downfield.
Speaker 3: Then this guy is going to be a heck of
Speaker 3: a weapon on that front. Let's not forget Gerald Everett.
Speaker 2: I mean Gerald Everett had his best game as a
Speaker 2: Charger in that playoff game against the Exonal Jaguars. I mean,
Speaker 2: so that's another weapon or did he could? He considers
Speaker 2: himself an athlete, not a tight end. So it's just
Speaker 2: another big body weapon for for Justin and I want
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on what the Chargers may do
Speaker 2: in this second round. And what I was getting at is, Okay,
Speaker 2: the tight end position is loaded. There's like four guys
Speaker 2: that could, like one of them just fall in their
Speaker 2: lap if they didn't even move up in the in
Speaker 2: the second round. I mean, Laporte is that guy from Iowao.
Speaker 2: The DJ really really likes Washington from Georgia, Musgrove from
Speaker 2: Oregon state mayor from Notre Dame. If you get one
Speaker 2: of those four guys, I mean, I think you're going
Speaker 2: a long way in terms of solidifying that position, not
Speaker 2: only if it's twenty twenty three, but the years to
Speaker 2: come with.
Speaker 3: Justin Yeah, I'm looking at it. You know, you think
Speaker 3: about who's in front of them, right, So the Lions
Speaker 3: traded Hawkinson, they need a tight end. Cardinals could use
Speaker 3: a tight end. Steelers have Friarmouth, Colts could. Certainly they're
Speaker 3: gonna want weapons for Anthony Richardson. You have the Rams,
Speaker 3: don't know what they're gonna do. I would imagine they
Speaker 3: probably want to trade back. Seahawks are up. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of teams that could use tight ends, especially you
Speaker 3: think about those teams that picked high that have young quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: You know, the Panthers for Bryce Young, you know, the
Speaker 3: Packers for Jordan Love after taking Lucas van Ness in
Speaker 3: the first round instead of a wide receiver to help
Speaker 3: out Jordan Love. But they did take their two receivers
Speaker 3: last year. I mean, they got Duves and Watson last year,
Speaker 3: so they're fine. But that's a tight end spot. Like
Speaker 3: you know, the thing with Laporta that's interesting is the
Speaker 3: the Iowa offense was so anemic last year that it's
Speaker 3: easy for someone like that to get Overlook, you know,
Speaker 3: with that kind of skill set from a tight end
Speaker 3: factory like Iowa, who produces really good tight ends. So
Speaker 3: if Laporta can make it to him at fifty four,
Speaker 3: that'd be incredible.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: I think when you look at a bit better numbers
Speaker 2: and Kittled did in Iowa. Yeah without a quarterback, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I mean that the offense was
Speaker 3: just completely and totally anemix. So you're talking about a
Speaker 3: group of players. I'm trying to find him here, where
Speaker 3: is my where are my tight ends?
Speaker 1: Here we go?
Speaker 3: So you're talking about Mayor who's going to go right away?
Speaker 3: Muskro So you have you really have five left?
Speaker 1: You know what? I actually even like Brenton Strange out
Speaker 1: of Penn State. I forgot about him.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing like Shoemaker, like he's solid out
Speaker 3: of Michigan.
Speaker 1: But I think what we're.
Speaker 3: Talking about is elite tight end play. Dalton Kin kid
Speaker 3: is going to be an elite tight end. I know
Speaker 3: he's not a do at all. He's not a huge blocker,
Speaker 3: but he's a capable blocker. But man, Michael Mayer is
Speaker 3: going to go right away, Musgrave I think is probably
Speaker 3: gonna go pretty quick. He's super athletic and just had
Speaker 3: injury issues. That's why his production was so low. We know,
Speaker 3: Darnell Washington, my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, must Grave only played in a couple of games.
Speaker 1: Is yere barely played?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when he did, he's he flashes, you know,
Speaker 3: he's he's really athletic. You see contorting his body, you know,
Speaker 3: picking balls off guys heads, like really doing some impressive stuff.
Speaker 3: And the limited sample that you get Washington, I to me,
Speaker 3: that's just one where that's like, I don't know how
Speaker 3: that guy makes it. You can't find a guy that
Speaker 3: freaking big, you know, at six seven to sixty. He's
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman like you get you get a six
Speaker 3: offensive lineman in your tight end. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: that offensive lineman is pretty athletic and can catch balls
Speaker 3: and watch bodies just bounce off them down the field.
Speaker 3: So you know, I think the thing with picking a
Speaker 3: tight end at twenty one, there's a reason why tight
Speaker 3: ends don't go a lot in the first round, and
Speaker 3: it's a reason why running backs don't go all out
Speaker 3: in the first round. And it's the money. You know,
Speaker 3: it's the fact that these guys aren't making twenty five
Speaker 3: million bucks a year like a one receiver is. So
Speaker 3: when you can get that first round contract, you want
Speaker 3: to try to get that financial flexibility, especially when you're
Speaker 3: about to play justin Herbert what you're about to pay him.
Speaker 3: So I think that's probably part of the reason why
Speaker 3: the Chargers want wide receiver over tight end there and
Speaker 3: you said it, Chris, the deep class, the fact that
Speaker 3: they feel like, oh, no, we can get one of
Speaker 3: these guys at fifty four if they really want to
Speaker 3: keep building on offense, which selfishly I want them to do,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be surprised. Corner group is pretty deep.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe they were going to take Deonte Banks there,
Speaker 3: you know, the pick that when I think I think
Speaker 3: the Giants took him to twenty four. Yeah, so like
Speaker 3: that would have been a great I would I was like, ooh,
Speaker 3: if Brandon gets on that table and starts jumping, I
Speaker 3: could totally see him want in that long corner. We
Speaker 3: talked about the contract situation, right, but you know what
Speaker 3: that signals to me is that things are going really
Speaker 3: well with JC and they feel like he's going to
Speaker 3: be ready. And that's going to put them back at
Speaker 3: a little bit of depth at that position.
Speaker 2: You know, the wide receiver run started too, and it
Speaker 2: started at twenty and then I was like forced wide receivers.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see when the tight end run
Speaker 2: in the second round starts, and if it starts closer
Speaker 2: to where the Chargers select, or if they really wanted
Speaker 2: one of those guys, if they'd have to move up
Speaker 2: to get them. So there's a lot of positions that
Speaker 2: need Let's take a quick break and talk about some
Speaker 2: other potential positions they may target. All right, guys, is
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Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about the offense and wide receiver
Speaker 2: and tighten talking offense, Chris, what you talking offense?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: I'm with you though, like I even said last night,
Speaker 2: and to your point, really the last couple of months,
Speaker 2: you got to outscore Patrick Mahomes and all those other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks you mentioned, not to mention CJ. Stroud and Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardsoner coming to the AFC. And I'm not saying they're
Speaker 2: gonna blow up the league in the first year or two,
Speaker 2: but you never know.
Speaker 1: Both good. I think they're both good quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: You know, the AFC. AFC is crazy. You have to
Speaker 2: score forty points, you forty points.
Speaker 3: And all the word is that Tennessee is gonna get
Speaker 3: Will Levis. You know that that's that's the team. So
Speaker 3: you're talking about another quarterback that's coming in now.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Do you all of them make it? No, they never do,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just the way it works. You don't
Speaker 3: have a quarterback class where every single one of the
Speaker 3: guys makes it. So one or two of them are
Speaker 3: are going to be, you know, on another team after
Speaker 3: four years. And that's just the reality of it. That's
Speaker 3: how it works out. But you know, yeah, those are
Speaker 3: high picks.
Speaker 1: You know. CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud, Anthony Richardson invested in the in the AFC South,
Speaker 3: which is good for us because you don't want one
Speaker 3: team to dominate. You want them all to beat up
Speaker 3: on each other and pull each other out of that
Speaker 3: wild card, you know, so you don't have So I
Speaker 3: think that's you know, to me, that's that's something that's
Speaker 3: down the road. That was the only thing I was
Speaker 3: thinking about with Houston, Like, that's that's what's we went
Speaker 3: through all the quarterbacks, right, Like, how do you decide
Speaker 3: to start the clock? Like, you know what, am I
Speaker 3: really gonna? I really need to love CJ. Stroud because
Speaker 3: I feel like we're a couple of years away. So
Speaker 3: now I'm starting that five year clock. Technically it's a
Speaker 3: four year clock, right if he's going to be good.
Speaker 3: Do I want to start this four year clock with
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Did I mention Burrow in that list?
Speaker 2: By the way, I think he did?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna say, am I at ten now?
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean? So like that's the
Speaker 1: interesting part, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, too, money, Like you didn mentioned Kenny Pickett and
Speaker 2: I and I know that he's he was a rookie
Speaker 2: last year. But but Mike Tomlin doesn't have losing seasons. Man, Like,
Speaker 2: the Steelers are gonna be good. Kenny Pickett is gonna
Speaker 2: be able to lead them to wins.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that the point I was simply like illustrating. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the only thing I was illustrating is you know you
Speaker 3: won't like if Kenny Pickett misses the playoffs. You're like, oh, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 3: But like when you say, hey, Tarvl Lawrence missed the playoffs,
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert missed the playoffs, Joe Burrow missed the playoffs,
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson with his fancy guaranteed contract missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and all that tumult in Baltimore and what
Speaker 3: they went through before finally getting a deal, missed the playoffs. Like,
Speaker 3: that's what's crazy about this conference. The balance of power,
Speaker 3: the balance of powers insane.
Speaker 2: I'll say it again, man, I have you know, shame
Speaker 2: on the teams in the NFC that didn't make an
Speaker 2: offer for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shame.
Speaker 2: I just Aaron Rodgers too. I don't know if Green
Speaker 2: Bay was going to trade him in the NFC, but
Speaker 2: I would have given up more to get Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: and keep him in the NFC and compete for a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl alongside what Jaylen you have, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Nak Prescott, there's an argument that your guy Derek Carr
Speaker 2: is like the third best quarterback in the in the conference.
Speaker 3: That that does not bode well for the NFC in
Speaker 3: terms of talent at the quarterback position. I digrest, you
Speaker 3: looked at the Cardinals rosters a mess. The Rams are
Speaker 3: on a complete rebuild. The forty nine ers are going
Speaker 3: to be dominant defensively, and you know with what they have,
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, that weapon, George Kittle, mccaffe you know, they
Speaker 3: just do it with weapons. So just you know, I
Speaker 3: think that's the one thing about the NFC when everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's the Eagles, It's the Eagles. Yeah it is, but
Speaker 3: let's not forget about what the weapons look like. In
Speaker 3: San Francisco. That defense is just it's atrocious. You know,
Speaker 3: it's so freaking dominant. And when you combine their offensive
Speaker 3: line with mc caffrey, deebo Ayuk Kittle like in the
Speaker 3: brain of Kyle Shanahan. Okay, now they can trade punches
Speaker 3: with the Eagles. You know they can do. I think
Speaker 3: they're better. No, especially not after last year's draft and
Speaker 3: this draft. But yeah, the South is you got Baker
Speaker 3: at quarterback for the Bucks. You got Bryce Young the
Speaker 3: number one pick for the Panthers. Desmond Ritters, you know,
Speaker 3: doing it with the Falcons. But look, they were able
Speaker 3: to get a reclamation project in Ryan Tannehill and Arthur
Speaker 3: Smith made it work with Derek Henry and now he's
Speaker 3: gonna be able to make it work with Cordero Patterson,
Speaker 3: Tyler L. Jeer and b Jean Robinson. And it's very
Speaker 3: reminiscent of what he did in Tennessee. And you know,
Speaker 3: is someone that called a lot of college football. What
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh did at Stanford when he's like, all right,
Speaker 3: Pac twelve, you want to play a ton of nickel
Speaker 3: and dime and you want to throw it all over.
Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna do. We're gonna come town, We're
Speaker 3: gonna kick your ass. We're gonna we're gonna play power football,
Speaker 3: and you don't have the bodies. And that's what he's
Speaker 3: building in Atlanta. You've got those big receivers, you got
Speaker 3: that gigantic freak of a tight end, and now you've
Speaker 3: got this three headed monster at running back can be
Speaker 3: flexed all over the field. We know cord I mean
Speaker 3: Cordero was drafted as a wide receiver. You know, Algiers
Speaker 3: a hammer, Beijeon can move to the slot. I can't
Speaker 3: wait to see what they're gonna do. I got a
Speaker 3: ton of respect for Arthur Smith and the way he
Speaker 3: sees football. So that's you know, I guess what I'm
Speaker 3: getting at, Chris is. I think it's a little bit
Speaker 3: of an overreaction, you know, I think, I do. I
Speaker 3: do think there's some teams that that are interesting. You know,
Speaker 3: the Panthers have a really good defense. I believe in
Speaker 3: Frank Reich and I believe in Bryce Young. You know
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. So I think it's it looks to
Speaker 3: be the Eagles maybe for a year before the other
Speaker 3: teams might be able to catch up there with all
Speaker 3: that depth and who they got. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: you know, weird things happen, you know, weird, weird things
Speaker 3: happen every year.
Speaker 2: The Caleb Williams Drake May sweepstakes is is gonna heat up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bonnick's gonna get in there too. You know,
Speaker 3: Bonnick's going to be a top five pick. You know
Speaker 3: it's gonna be and and you know what, someone else
Speaker 3: will raise their hand. You know, you'll you'll get the
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, you'll get the Will Levis, you'll get the
Speaker 3: you know, the Joe Burrow. Single season, it happens. Somebody
Speaker 3: always ends up raising their hand. But you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I love the draft. I'm a I'm a draft dork.
Speaker 2: It's the best.
Speaker 1: To react.
Speaker 2: It's fun to react to all the craziness that happened yesterday.
Speaker 2: Staying with the Chargers, Yeah, one position, I'm a little
Speaker 2: concerned about deft Wise's edge. Uh and and I bring
Speaker 2: that up because obviously they you know, you know, you
Speaker 2: got Khalil Mack and Joey bos Like, what are you
Speaker 2: talking about? It's it's the guys behind him. You know,
Speaker 2: Chris Rump is still developing. They're gonna need a couple
Speaker 2: of guys sure to develop. I'm hopeful van Noy after
Speaker 2: the draft comes back. I think he wants to be here.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that that we're letter is Leonard Floyd Stilville
Speaker 2: still out there.
Speaker 3: He's still out there. He's gonna get signed after the draft.
Speaker 3: And these are that's where you tend to get bargains
Speaker 3: right because teams don't have a lot of cap space life.
Speaker 3: You know, they figured out, Okay, this is what I
Speaker 3: need for my draft pool. I've got that squared away.
Speaker 3: Now how much do I have?
Speaker 1: Leonard?
Speaker 3: I got seven and a half million bucks. It's yours
Speaker 3: if you want to take it. You can get back
Speaker 3: in the market next year. You know that would be great.
Speaker 3: I think defensive tackle is I'm just kind of for
Speaker 3: those watching on YouTube. Sorry, I'm not looking at the screen.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of looking off on my other computer here.
Speaker 3: Keanu Benton. I don't know if he'll make it. You know,
Speaker 3: he's an exceptional player out of Wisconsin. A lot of
Speaker 3: people kind of call him a poor man's Jalen Carter,
Speaker 3: which will take Siaki Eka, Like, that's someone that people
Speaker 3: talked about Byron Young out of Alabama, So that's interior
Speaker 3: edge Byron Young, Tennessee a lot of people like him.
Speaker 3: We talked about toy Polo two out of sc you know,
Speaker 3: he very well could end up being there. So that's
Speaker 3: the front and then I think you go to the
Speaker 3: back end of the defense. We talked about what a
Speaker 3: deep corner group. They says, I mean, you still got
Speaker 3: Brian Branchjoey Porter, Kelly Ringo, DJ Turner, Cam Smith, Like
Speaker 3: there's some really good corners on the board.
Speaker 2: You think Joey Porter is gonna go to the Steelers
Speaker 2: first pick?
Speaker 1: Yes or that?
Speaker 3: Like, to me, that's just you know that to me,
Speaker 3: looks like Will lev Like, I'm surprised, and I think
Speaker 3: they were probably trying to get back into the first
Speaker 3: round to get them so they get that fifty year option.
Speaker 3: But if a team likes Will Levis, they're gonna immediately
Speaker 3: make sure they get him. So but I mean it
Speaker 3: certainly would make sense. I mean, we know Mike Tomlin
Speaker 3: coaches up DB's like Bill Belichick, and Pete Carroll coach up.
Speaker 3: DB's right, it's what they do, it's what they love.
Speaker 3: So it's it would be hard to imagine Joey Porter
Speaker 3: Junior not going there after what Joey Porter meant to
Speaker 3: that that team. But you know, and then you go
Speaker 3: to safety Chris and I mean we mentioned Brian Branch
Speaker 3: and how versatile is He'll be gone. But the two
Speaker 3: safeties out of Illinois, Brown and Martin, people love them.
Speaker 3: One of them could be available. Like there's some real
Speaker 3: league they said, deep draft, there's some really good players
Speaker 3: if they're gonna go defense on Day two and try
Speaker 3: to build some depth because of all the injuries, right
Speaker 3: like Johnson Abonia, they got a lot of j C. Jackson,
Speaker 3: They got so many injuries. You saw what happened when
Speaker 3: Mikey Davis left the game against Jacksonville. Everything changed immediately.
Speaker 3: So everything, like I think it wouldn't surprise me because
Speaker 3: of how deep the defensive bat group is. And they
Speaker 3: need a returner by the way, So that was the
Speaker 3: other thing about the whole Quinton Johnson. You know pick
Speaker 3: it's like say can return, Addison can return. Now, I
Speaker 3: know you don't want to put your starting receiver out there.
Speaker 3: But that was the other thing that I was thinking,
Speaker 3: and why I was thinking those two guys is like
Speaker 3: they need a returner, and hey, these guys can return
Speaker 3: kicks and ponds.
Speaker 1: I don't think Johnston's ever done it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to It's hard to get all those guys
Speaker 2: on the field at the same time too, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: Palmer's going in his third year. You know, in a
Speaker 2: perfect world, Keenan and Mike aren't coming off the field, right,
Speaker 2: So to have that positional versatility with a returner, hopefully
Speaker 2: they can one later. As far as defense is concerned,
Speaker 2: I do think you look at the guys that they
Speaker 2: drafted last year, is almost like red shirt guys, right,
Speaker 2: Tito Abogonna, J T. Woods, which is the big one.
Speaker 2: He's got to make a job. He's a lead.
Speaker 3: That's a big one because that's that's a third round pick.
Speaker 3: You need your twos and your threes to be out
Speaker 3: there playing football. So but again, that's a hard free
Speaker 3: safety is a hard position. And Brandon Staley's defense is complex.
Speaker 3: It is not Gus Bradley see it, attack it.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It is much more complex. He asks a lot of
Speaker 3: his defensive backs and that's sort of what we talked about.
Speaker 1: Remember with j. C.
Speaker 3: Jackson early that he just came from a system where
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick said, that's your guy, that's all you have
Speaker 3: to worry about, your good and he had to try
Speaker 3: to settle in to to what Brandon you know, in
Speaker 3: that too high shell and a lot of quarters and hey,
Speaker 3: you've got to read you you need the one because
Speaker 3: he's coming outside or you're taking you know, all of
Speaker 3: that sort of stopped.
Speaker 2: Then think about the leap that Michael Davis made from
Speaker 2: year two. He was in the same boat where he
Speaker 2: you know, it took him a little while to grasp
Speaker 2: that system. So you're right, you need you need that
Speaker 2: player can come in and and it may not happen
Speaker 2: first year. One thing that's very interesting to me now
Speaker 2: is this whole Austin Eckler situation because you know, we
Speaker 2: talked about Bijon on here and you know, Jamior Gibbs
Speaker 2: was like that second guy, almost like the one a.
Speaker 2: I I saw that there were like some teams that
Speaker 2: thought that they thought higher of Gibbs and Bijeon, which
Speaker 2: I don't know how true that is.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but but here we are.
Speaker 2: You know, is it even worth the Chargers drafting a
Speaker 2: running back when we don't know what Isaiah Spiller is
Speaker 2: right like that? This is where it's like, Okay, is
Speaker 2: Austin just going to come back here and we're going
Speaker 2: to try to make this thing work with with Joshua
Speaker 2: Kelly and Isaiah Spiller and Eckler? Or is there another
Speaker 2: guy in this draft Charbona from u C l A
Speaker 2: another Bruin?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is probably that maybe that next running back. I guess
Speaker 2: it's in the eye of the beholder. But the whole
Speaker 2: Austin Echler thing money. I was thinking about that a
Speaker 2: lot last night because I thought that if the Chargers
Speaker 2: made a move at running back in the first round,
Speaker 2: maybe that signaled something. But you know, the hope is
Speaker 2: Austin comes back at this point. But but who knows.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's much like wide receivers, you know,
Speaker 3: running backs are all different. You know, Jamier Gibbs has
Speaker 3: been compared to Kamara, someone that can really catch the football.
Speaker 3: You can flex him out all over the field. Again, look,
Speaker 3: by maybe I'm wrong. I know there were people that
Speaker 3: really really like him, but I just when I watched
Speaker 3: Bjon Robinson play it's like, holy heck, that guy is
Speaker 3: just next level. But I think, you know, we talked
Speaker 3: about Roshawn Johnson with with with Bratt a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, like because he's.
Speaker 2: Just a big back.
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about two and two hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 3: I think I think he might even be two hundred
Speaker 3: nineteen pounds. Like he's a big dude. So that different, right,
Speaker 3: But that that's something that we saw from Josh Kelly
Speaker 3: last year where I felt like Josh took that step
Speaker 3: and that was something he told us. Remember at training
Speaker 3: camp when he sat down with us, you know, before
Speaker 3: the season even started, he said, you know, I needed
Speaker 3: to get bigger, I needed to get stronger. He's like,
Speaker 3: because I felt like they were bringing the attack to me,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to bring the attack to them. And
Speaker 3: we saw that last year. So I think they're probably
Speaker 3: comfortable with Josh.
Speaker 1: In that role.
Speaker 3: Now, Like we said, it's a different it's a gaps,
Speaker 3: it's a wide zone, it's an outside zone, and you've
Speaker 3: got to read your gaps. You've got to have really
Speaker 3: good vision in this offense as a running back, because
Speaker 3: once you're handed that ball, you're just following these assignments,
Speaker 3: is that laying open? No, next one, next one, Okay,
Speaker 3: now that's closed. I've got to cut back to this
Speaker 3: one to get through. It's a little bit different, and
Speaker 3: I think we saw Josh at his best when it
Speaker 3: was here's the ball attack. When we saw Josh struggle
Speaker 3: a little bit is when he's trying to stretch it
Speaker 3: outside and trying to get that corner and stuff. Not
Speaker 3: necessarily you know, his particular skill set. So I think
Speaker 3: you got to figure out what is the room, what
Speaker 3: do we have versus what's available, And to me, I'd
Speaker 3: be really surprised. I think bjon Look if Bijeon was
Speaker 3: there at twenty one and Quintin Johnston was there at
Speaker 3: twenty one, and you know, I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: question Bijeon would have been the pick. I don't think
Speaker 3: there is any question. He was just an elite player.
Speaker 3: So I think now that he's gone, I don't think
Speaker 3: running back really comes into play. I think they have
Speaker 3: some depth concerns un less, and again this is the
Speaker 3: whole we don't know as much as they know. Unless
Speaker 3: the relationship with Austin is completely soured and they're worried
Speaker 3: about that, which I don't think it is, but you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I hope it isn't. I hope it isn't. I think
Speaker 2: too it is. Fans watching this draft unfold, just keep
Speaker 2: in mind when they draft a guy like Quinton Johnston,
Speaker 2: when they do these things that they're going to do
Speaker 2: in Rountdes two and three and beyond, Kellen Moore's finger
Speaker 2: prince are going to be on this offense. And there's
Speaker 2: a reason why they're bringing in certain guys because they
Speaker 2: fit what Kellen wants to do. And one of the
Speaker 2: things that Brandon Staley said when I talked to him
Speaker 2: right after they picked him was just challenging defenses in
Speaker 2: different ways, and Kellen Morrison was so good at that
Speaker 2: at Dallas. So to have Quintin kind of compliment what
Speaker 2: Keenan and Mike do best. Knowing you have Gerald Everett
Speaker 2: hopefully having Austin Ecklo out of the backfield, Kellen has
Speaker 2: to believe that he has the pieces in place to
Speaker 2: really stress defenses. So that's why I would be encouraged
Speaker 2: if I'm a Chargers fan by this pick, because Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore probably had his fingerprints on it.
Speaker 3: You know, I think the one thing just going back
Speaker 3: to it is I'm trying to think I think it
Speaker 3: was I think it was Coach Lynn when we first
Speaker 3: brought it up that first year that Brandon was that
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert was playing, and he said, you know, you
Speaker 3: can't just have speed, You've got to have speed that
Speaker 3: scares the defense. You know, if you're just a guy
Speaker 3: running down the field and they don't really care, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. But to me, like Quintin Johnston scares a
Speaker 3: defense because we've just seen the explosive plays that he
Speaker 3: put up at TCU. It's like, hey, that's a big dude.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert's got a giant arm, and he throws the
Speaker 3: ball beyond accurately downfield. And if we don't account for
Speaker 3: this guy, we're host it's a fifty yard completion or
Speaker 3: it's a seventy yard touchdown. So we have got to
Speaker 3: be worried about that guy. And I think that's what
Speaker 3: you're talking about, Chris, is you know they did not
Speaker 3: have that element last year, and teams just packed the
Speaker 3: box and they were happy to cover up all those
Speaker 3: underneath routes from Keenan and Josh Palmer and you know
Speaker 3: those quick outs, the running game had no chance to breathe.
Speaker 3: You bring in someone like Johnston with that size and
Speaker 3: that speed, and look, even if he does what he
Speaker 3: did at TCU, which was not a lot of complicated routes,
Speaker 3: run that way real fast.
Speaker 1: If we throw you the ball, catch it.
Speaker 3: If that's all he does, it's going to change how
Speaker 3: defenses have to behave and how they have to attack
Speaker 3: the Chargers offense because he's running. He's gone, and he's
Speaker 3: got the speed and he's got the size to beat you.
Speaker 3: He's just got to catch the ball. And if he does,
Speaker 3: band things are going to open up underneath for Josh
Speaker 3: Palmer and Keenan Allen and Austin Eckler out of the backfield,
Speaker 3: and Isaiah Spiller if he starts to come on, you know,
Speaker 3: and Justin Herbert to run the ball like Dac did
Speaker 3: quite a bit under Kellen Moore. Like That's the exciting
Speaker 3: thing about Johnston is his ability. They needed that, They
Speaker 3: needed a player that threatens the defenses deep that you
Speaker 3: have to be worried about getting the top taken off.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, dude, I'll say it again. I thought
Speaker 2: about exactly what you said last week. About Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: and how he makes good receivers great and great receivers
Speaker 2: all pros. And I think that Johnson is at least good,
Speaker 2: and Justin will make him great and if he's already great,
Speaker 2: he'll be an all Pro eventually.
Speaker 1: Down the line.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited about that aspect. And that's the reason too.
Speaker 2: When you see a wide receiver like that drafted, you
Speaker 2: know that Justin Herbert too, I mean his arm Like,
Speaker 2: we didn't see them throw the ball down the field
Speaker 2: at all last year, man, And it was frustrating, and
Speaker 2: I realized that there were injuries and there was a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of stuff to it. But it's
Speaker 2: going to change this year. And that was the first
Speaker 2: sign that it's going to.
Speaker 3: Change, certainly, I think just kind of looking at today,
Speaker 3: you know and look day three developmental depth picks, and man,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's there.
Speaker 1: Certainly was not last year.
Speaker 3: I don't know the last time we saw a Day
Speaker 3: three pick like Jamari Sawyer and the contribution he made.
Speaker 3: But I mean they had an absolute home run with
Speaker 3: a Day three pick there. We saw what Dean Letterdan
Speaker 3: j just Sir Taylor able to do on special teams
Speaker 3: that won them a game against Denver, So those guys
Speaker 3: had impact.
Speaker 2: What's your order for today? Like, what do you want
Speaker 2: to see today?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think now it really does become a
Speaker 3: best available The Chargers are stacked there. They are now
Speaker 3: in debt. I think I think with your first round pick,
Speaker 3: you're you're taking that big swing. You know, you gotta
Speaker 3: hit it. You get that, you get the benefit of
Speaker 3: cost certainty, the fifty year option. It's so important to
Speaker 3: hit on those picks. Outside of that, I think they
Speaker 3: just go. I think they just follow their board.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to force a tight end.
Speaker 3: They're not going to force a corner. They're not going
Speaker 3: to force a defensive end because they do they need
Speaker 3: an end. Yeah, they need an edge, They need a
Speaker 3: little bit of depth there. But like I said, I
Speaker 3: think post draft there's enough guys available that they might
Speaker 3: be able to make that work like they did last
Speaker 3: year with van Ney. And I keep going back to
Speaker 3: that Leonard Floyd thing and saying, man, I just I
Speaker 3: gotta believe that day is going to be pounding that
Speaker 3: table and that and I think we'll get a signal
Speaker 3: that that may be the case based on the way
Speaker 3: they draft. But to me like that, I feel like
Speaker 3: today is a defense day unless there's just incredible value.
Speaker 3: You if somehow Washington laporta Muskray fall, then then perhaps
Speaker 3: that's that's the pick. But I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: running back day. I could see maybe if for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: to me, I would draft in the first three rounds.
Speaker 3: I would draft an offensive lineman every single year. I
Speaker 3: just think it is so important. You've got to be
Speaker 3: able to protect Justin Herbert. He's the most important commodity
Speaker 3: that you have on your team. And I don't think
Speaker 3: there's any anything wrong with you know, if if for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, let's say Bergeron he's not going to but
Speaker 3: if Bergeron drops, if Cody Mak that a lot of
Speaker 3: people love out of North Dakota State starts to drop,
Speaker 3: then take them. You know, I got I got no price.
Speaker 3: It's a premium position that makes a ton of cash.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to pay for Sean Slater, you know,
Speaker 3: they just paid Trey Pickens.
Speaker 1: I got no.
Speaker 3: Problem with taking guys like that, you know, and just
Speaker 3: kind of creating depth. So I think that's that's the
Speaker 3: That's the great thing about the the Chargers are in
Speaker 3: is they do have enough depth now where they can
Speaker 3: simply follow the board.
Speaker 2: Tom alluded to this. I think last night they drafted
Speaker 2: Rashau Slater, Zion Johnson, and now Quentin Johnson. There's a
Speaker 2: role for Justin Herbert as it for Justin Herbert to
Speaker 2: protect them and you give them weapons. Hey, I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna get DJ on next week to break down
Speaker 2: the draft, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: Yea his mock draft, he freaking nailed it. Did you see?
Speaker 1: He was on fire last night? He was on just.
Speaker 3: And look, I know for a fact how this works
Speaker 3: because I've worked the draft for the NFL network for
Speaker 3: ten years.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 3: He does not have The general managers are not sharing,
Speaker 3: they're not there. They're radio silent with you during the draft.
Speaker 3: They're in their war rooms. They're doing their thing. You know,
Speaker 3: they may reach out to you after they make their pick.
Speaker 3: But he does not know what's coming. And he was
Speaker 3: a fortune teller last night. He could predict the future.
Speaker 3: He reme when everybody was taking shots at CJ. Stroud
Speaker 3: and mocking Tyree Wilson to the Texans, he was like,
Speaker 3: there's no way he was the only one that just
Speaker 3: kept his head down and said, there is no way
Speaker 3: they go into the season with Davis Mills as their quarterback.
Speaker 3: CJ Stroud whatever with you know, the cognitive testing. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's a red flag for some teams, but he's like,
Speaker 3: I just don't see it. He was right on that.
Speaker 3: The fact they traded back up, he was all over that,
Speaker 3: like the Will Levis slide, all over that. I mean,
Speaker 3: he just seemed to know what was coming. He did
Speaker 3: a heck of a job. Yeah, he's the best.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we'll talk to him next week with the
Speaker 2: week after to break down the Chargers draft class and Mondy.
Speaker 2: With that, we'll get out of here. Lit fans enjoy
Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend. Happy Draft weekend, my man,
Speaker 2: great job last night, and we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, guys.
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