Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up Doc.
Speaker 2: What's up? Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of
Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by Matt Bunny Smith. Excuse
Speaker 2: my white background here as I move and get settled
Speaker 2: into this new office, But as Buddy alluded to, my
Speaker 2: WiFi is much better. So I think that's the win
Speaker 2: of the day. We're gonna get into what Joey Bosa
Speaker 2: and Khalil Mack had to say during day one of
Speaker 2: OTA's also a lot of new items on the agenda
Speaker 2: with regards to the owners, beatings but money. The lead
Speaker 2: of the week is that Austin Eckler is coming back
Speaker 2: to the Chargers this year, and I feel like over
Speaker 2: the last several months we've spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: wondering if that was gonna be the case. I think
Speaker 2: there were certain times where we thought that it was
Speaker 2: not going to be the case. But Austin is gonna
Speaker 2: be in Powder Blue this year, and I think that's
Speaker 2: a good thing for all involved.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's right and step I'm by no
Speaker 1: means trying to pat us on the back ourselves on
Speaker 1: the back here, but it's right in step with what
Speaker 1: we've been talking about for you know, since this whole
Speaker 1: thing emerged, seemed like and it's weird to talk in
Speaker 1: these sort of numbers as a lay person walking around
Speaker 1: the United States, but we said, look, you add two
Speaker 1: million bucks and this probably gets done. I thought maybe
Speaker 1: it would be tack on a little extra and then
Speaker 1: add a year a mutual option. So on that front,
Speaker 1: I got it wrong a little bit. But I just assumed,
Speaker 1: sort of knowing the history of the two parties and
Speaker 1: how this conversation had been working over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, and what they had been trying to do
Speaker 1: with Austin, and perhaps what he was receptive to and
Speaker 1: what his agent was resistant to, I figured this was
Speaker 1: going to be the resolution that we appreciate. You take
Speaker 1: these millions of dollars, and I know their incentives, but
Speaker 1: when you look at them, they're easily attainable incentives based
Speaker 1: on what Austin has done the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: The biggest one is total yards. It's I think eleven hundred.
Speaker 1: He's just been way past that the last two years.
Speaker 1: And ten touchdowns and he's been way past that the
Speaker 1: last two years, so those should be attainable. He should
Speaker 1: get all one point seventy five or two million bucks
Speaker 1: of the incentives, and that's a win for him, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of six and a half, you make eight and
Speaker 1: a half million bucks. And then if things are going great,
Speaker 1: you let him test the market and if there's something
Speaker 1: more out there good for him, you earned it, go
Speaker 1: get it. And if there's not, then I would assume
Speaker 1: they'd gladly welcome him back on a team friendly and
Speaker 1: sort of deal that he would be comfortable with.
Speaker 2: I think this is an example of just the respect
Speaker 2: level that the Chargers have for Austin Eckler, because they
Speaker 2: they gave him a deal. First of all, they brought
Speaker 2: him in a camp and he made the team and
Speaker 2: he earned that. But when Melvin Gordon's deal went awry
Speaker 2: and Austin kind of took the rain, they paid Austin
Speaker 2: right and he over delivered frankly on that contract. And
Speaker 2: now they're at a point where the running back market
Speaker 2: is what it is. I think Austin found that out
Speaker 2: over the last couple of months and the Chargers said, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. So Tom Polisero reported this.
Speaker 2: This is just the specifics of the incentives up to
Speaker 2: one million dollars for total yards tiers eleven hundred to
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred. He's going to get that, no problem. Six
Speaker 2: hundred K for touchdowns ten to sixteen. You know, he's
Speaker 2: exceeded that each of the last few years. That one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty k for the Pro Bowl. This is
Speaker 2: the one thing that's kind of a looted Austin. Why
Speaker 2: watch him get the Pro Bowl this year against one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty k. Right, So this is this is
Speaker 2: nice for Austin and it allows us to now kind
Speaker 2: of settle down and look at how Austin is going
Speaker 2: to fit into this Kellen wore offense. And I think
Speaker 2: there was so much uncertain uncertainly about the running back
Speaker 2: position money during the draft. We're talking about v John
Speaker 2: Robinson and maybe some other guys in the second or
Speaker 2: the third round. Now we know Austin is going to
Speaker 2: come back. He's going to get the line's share of
Speaker 2: the touches in that backfield, and you hope that Joshua
Speaker 2: Kelly or Isaiah Spiller or somebody can really establish himself
Speaker 2: as that number two running back. But Kellen Moore and
Speaker 2: seeing what he did with Tony Pollard, Austin has to
Speaker 2: be excited, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And the key was this is such a great exercise
Speaker 1: for people to apply to their own situations. Money is tricky.
Speaker 1: You can never let it get personal. Business is business.
Speaker 1: The parent is always going to try to get the
Speaker 1: better end of the deal, and the child, if you
Speaker 1: want to put it in those terms, or the employer
Speaker 1: and the employer are always going to try to get
Speaker 1: the best deal they can, regardless of how the other
Speaker 1: side feels. And you just have to go into a
Speaker 1: negotiation understanding that. It's why people tell you to never,
Speaker 1: you know, take things personal. If you are in a
Speaker 1: position to have an agent or a lawyer to negotiate
Speaker 1: those deals for you, a lot of that isn't just
Speaker 1: because they understand the complexities of a contract, but they
Speaker 1: also prevent it from being personal. So you're not sitting
Speaker 1: across the desk with someone that's telling you you're not
Speaker 1: worth what you think you're worth. And they're not telling
Speaker 1: you that because you're not worth it. They may be
Speaker 1: telling you that because they want to save some money.
Speaker 1: It's what they do. They have a bottom line, and
Speaker 1: you have a thirst for as much as you can
Speaker 1: earn and that's where things get tricky. So I was
Speaker 1: happy to see that both sides never Melvin made it
Speaker 1: personal when you know, and then it got personal for
Speaker 1: Tom and the Chargers was there like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: we just offered you all this money. This is one
Speaker 1: of the richest running back contracts, and it's not good enough.
Speaker 1: And so they took it personal. And then Melvin took
Speaker 1: it personal and a divorce was inevitable, and you saw
Speaker 1: how that played out. And it's unfortunate because Melvin and
Speaker 1: Austin made a great tandem. The power back that Melvin
Speaker 1: was the do everything, can flex out wide, you know,
Speaker 1: third down and line up in the slot and split
Speaker 1: backfield with one guy as a receiving because Melvin could
Speaker 1: catch the ball to and it's unfortunate that got sidetracked
Speaker 1: because it got personal. So I commend both sides for
Speaker 1: not making it as such. For Tom to say, if
Speaker 1: you want to go explore the market and find a trade,
Speaker 1: we understand. Go make as much as you can. And
Speaker 1: for Austin to say, I appreciate them. They paid me
Speaker 1: when they didn't have to, and I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: maximize my playing career and my earning potential, and this
Speaker 1: is how you come to this sort of resolution. You
Speaker 1: were going to make six and a half million bucks.
Speaker 1: Now it's likely you're going to make eight and a
Speaker 1: half million bucks, and that's great. That's a win at
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. Is a running back eight and
Speaker 1: a half million bucks is a win in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Fair or not, it's the reality of what it is.
Speaker 1: You are paid what the market will pay you. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: I would love to see Austin have a huge year.
Speaker 1: You know, you know him, you know Eckler. He's one
Speaker 1: of our favorite guys. He's a great dude. He's great
Speaker 1: with the media, he's great with the fans. He's a bust.
Speaker 1: His tail to be in shape every year. He does
Speaker 1: not cut any corners. He plays through pain, he plays
Speaker 1: through injury. He's everything you'd want in a player. It's
Speaker 1: just the market. You've got to make all You've got
Speaker 1: to make two defensive ends, a left tackle, a right tackle,
Speaker 1: a quarterback, wide receivers. You've got to make all those
Speaker 1: pieces fit to feel the most competitive team possible. And
Speaker 1: it goes back to what we said repeatedly through this
Speaker 1: whole free agent and draft process. Chris it seems like
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Two hundred and thirty million bucks
Speaker 1: or whatever that cap number is. It gets real tricky
Speaker 1: when you're in this When you're in this phase and
Speaker 1: Bryce Callahan's out there and Leonard Floyd is out there,
Speaker 1: and you've got players out there that you would love
Speaker 1: to find a value on. That's that's where all of
Speaker 1: this gets real tricky, and every five hundred grand to
Speaker 1: a million dollars in a quarter of a billion dollar
Speaker 1: salary cap begins to take on added significance.
Speaker 2: I think the first step in the good faith was
Speaker 2: Tom and Company allowing Austin to see what was out
Speaker 2: there and allowing his agent to talk to other teams.
Speaker 2: And then when you see how free agents shook out,
Speaker 2: you see what Miles Sanders got at the Panthers. You
Speaker 2: see guys who are still frankling on the sideline like
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt and Zeke Elliott, and there's countless guys that
Speaker 2: are out there because the running running back position is
Speaker 2: what it is right now. So the fact that he's back,
Speaker 2: I think fans should be very, very excited about the
Speaker 2: fact that Austin is gonna be in Kellen Moore's offense
Speaker 2: and I looked at Tony Pollard's numbers because this is like,
Speaker 2: that's like the best comparison I can really throw out
Speaker 2: at this point because Kellen Moore and the year that
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard had, he had over thirteen hundred yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 2: He only caught thirty nine balls, but his yards per
Speaker 2: reception nine point five of pop. He had a thousand
Speaker 2: rushing yards and he had twelve total touchdowns. So, first
Speaker 2: of all, that's gonna be in line with all those nceentos.
Speaker 2: And the second, I want to kind of throw this
Speaker 2: to you money because you know, Austin's yards perception were
Speaker 2: low last year because of the fact that he caught
Speaker 2: one hundred and one balls. He had twenty seven targets. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you see Quintin Johnson being drafted and Joshua Palmer
Speaker 2: and Mike and Keenan and Gerald Everett, it seems to
Speaker 2: me that they want to move towards getting the ball
Speaker 2: down the field and maybe limiting some of those checkdown
Speaker 2: throws to Austin. So I guess I ask you, how
Speaker 2: do you think Austin's year is going to look different
Speaker 2: in comparison to maybe the last couple of years where
Speaker 2: he was relied upon so heavily.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, for me, the one thing you really
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to is justin Herbert and level
Speaker 1: of trust. And you think about Keenan on third down.
Speaker 1: You think about when things break down or maybe that
Speaker 1: passesn't open down the field, how that there is an
Speaker 1: implicit trust there for Austin to catch the ball behind
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage instead of losing three yards, turning
Speaker 1: a second and ten into a third and six or
Speaker 1: a third and five. So the one great thing justin
Speaker 1: and what you typically see from big armed quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: to me, Aaron Rodgers is one of the most guilty
Speaker 1: parties of this. And even though he is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks to ever played the game, he's just
Speaker 1: always looking for that kill shot. He rarely will take
Speaker 1: that check down, and it gets his team in a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble. And you especially have seen that in
Speaker 1: high leverage games against really good defenses. Is his just
Speaker 1: stubbornness and refusal to take to take a profit. You
Speaker 1: can't go broke taking a profit, and he just refuses
Speaker 1: to do that. One of the great things about Herbert
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons why he separated himself as
Speaker 1: one of these physical specimens with a giant hose that
Speaker 1: can push it downfield. Is because he's willing to do that.
Speaker 1: He has the processor, he has the ability to recognize
Speaker 1: this is a good play. Yes, I want to I've
Speaker 1: got the cannon to push at fifty yards down the
Speaker 1: field and it's maybe a twenty to thirty percent success rate,
Speaker 1: but this is one hundred percent. I know, Austin, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the ball in his hands and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go from second to ten, to third to third and four.
Speaker 1: And now I can open up a variety, myriad possibilities
Speaker 1: on third and four that I can on third and ten.
Speaker 1: So I still think there's a lot of value. Even
Speaker 1: though we feel like Kellen Moore is going to push
Speaker 1: the ball downfield more is going to have we all
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a better looking offense, you
Speaker 1: know the and that's just based on you know what
Speaker 1: he had. But I thought Kellen made a good point.
Speaker 1: He's like, look that the offense I had in Dallas
Speaker 1: was built for the team I had in Dallas, you
Speaker 1: know the Remember he brought up the two tight ends
Speaker 1: when they said were you surprised Charged didn't draft the
Speaker 1: tight end. He said, well, the offense at Dallas looked
Speaker 1: like that because we had two tight ends and that's
Speaker 1: that's what we were using. Yeah, So you know when
Speaker 1: you come here with Mike and Keenan and now Quinton Johnson,
Speaker 1: with Josh Palm, if Geiden gets back and Gerald Everett,
Speaker 1: and if you have two backs in the backfield, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna play Josh and Austin at the same time,
Speaker 1: or Spiller and Austin at the same whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: and this look, this team could look different June first,
Speaker 1: with all those cuts and with teams having new money
Speaker 1: available or trying to trim some salary because it's post
Speaker 1: June first and you can save a little bit of
Speaker 1: money on dead cap and that sort of stuff. Who
Speaker 1: knows what it's going to look like. But the one
Speaker 1: thing I keep going back to Chris is we know
Speaker 1: how valuable Boston is and what he is capable of doing.
Speaker 1: I said it repeatedly. I have never seen someone turn
Speaker 1: more what should have been negative plays, even into minimal
Speaker 1: positive plays. How many times Austin was dead to rights
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage and it should have been
Speaker 1: a second and thirteen and instead at second and eight.
Speaker 1: He's so good at that. And anytime Justin Herbert had
Speaker 1: a breakdown in the backfield, that's the guy he was
Speaker 1: looking for. Much like on third down, he's looking for thirteen,
Speaker 1: and much like those shot plays, he's looking for Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: And so that's going to continue regardless of what offense
Speaker 1: is installed.
Speaker 2: Think about the differences going into twenty twenty three and
Speaker 2: you hope you know all health being the number one
Speaker 2: priority here, but Shaan Slater will be back at left tackle.
Speaker 2: That's gonna help Austin. You add Quinton Johnston right. Mike
Speaker 2: and Keenan were both hurt at different parts of the
Speaker 2: year last year. So when you have your full complement
Speaker 2: of weapons said, oh, by the way, you have Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore call in the plays now, I think all of
Speaker 2: that is going to kind of work in Austin's favor.
Speaker 2: And obviously the offense is favor and I think you
Speaker 2: have you just made a great point about the Austin's
Speaker 2: uh just reliability, justin trust him. I remember the game
Speaker 2: in Tennessee where Austin was out wide caught a deep
Speaker 2: ball late in the fourth quarter, like you can use
Speaker 2: Austin all over the field. You drafted Quintin Johnson because
Speaker 2: of the size and speed Joshua Palmer in year three,
Speaker 2: we know a keenan mic are capable of Gerald Everett,
Speaker 2: Jaclink Iten coming back hopefully full strength and his speed.
Speaker 2: So all of that being said, you have Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: at the controls, and I think Justin having the familiarity
Speaker 2: just another year with all of these guys, you know,
Speaker 2: save for say for Quinton, that's just gonna bode well,
Speaker 2: I think in general for the offense. So you make
Speaker 2: a great point about too, it's not this one size
Speaker 2: fits all. Kellen's gonna cater to the personnel on this
Speaker 2: Chargers team. Last year they really relied on Pollard and
Speaker 2: Zeke just smashing the ball. They didn't have Mark Cooper
Speaker 2: last year. Ceedee Lamb was the future guy on the outside.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about Schultz. So he's gonna have
Speaker 2: a whole new arsenal of weapons to work with, and
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see what he does with it.
Speaker 2: And that's why people are so excited about OTAs and
Speaker 2: who's out there and who's not. I heard I heard
Speaker 2: some of the press asking you know, where was Mike
Speaker 2: or where was Palmer? And you know, coach Deealey doesn't
Speaker 2: have to answer those questions right now. He's like, listen,
Speaker 2: they're all getting ready. But it's just it's funny that
Speaker 2: we're in May and everybody is kind of like full
Speaker 2: till ready for September.
Speaker 1: Last thing I'll add on Austin. And I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to get to with OTA is
Speaker 1: underway and all that, but is don't forget he's in
Speaker 1: a contract year. This is someone who wanted to get
Speaker 1: paid sixteen million bucks a year like Christian McCaffrey's getting paid.
Speaker 1: Pointed to his production, pointed to his touchdown totals. This
Speaker 1: is what I want, this is what I believe I'm worth.
Speaker 1: And he's going to be motivated because he's got one
Speaker 1: more crack at this. He's turning twenty eighth this year.
Speaker 1: He's got a shot for a team that feels like
Speaker 1: they're close and maybe has some cap room and has
Speaker 1: a quarterback on a rookie deal. Let's say, you know which,
Speaker 1: the Chargers technically still will be on a rookie deal,
Speaker 1: but there will be teams out there that could say, okay, look,
Speaker 1: we can afford to do this. We got a quarterback
Speaker 1: who's making four million bucks a year instead of forty
Speaker 1: five million bucks a year. Let's go give this guy
Speaker 1: two three years thirty million bucks, two years twenty million
Speaker 1: bucks to come in here and be that last piece
Speaker 1: for us. So no doubt he knows that. His agent
Speaker 1: knows that. So you're going to have a supremely motivated
Speaker 1: and we know again I'll repeat it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep talking in circles, so I'll just close it
Speaker 1: with this. We know how howd he works, we know
Speaker 1: how he refused to go down to first contact, we
Speaker 1: know the production he's capable of. And now he's got
Speaker 1: two million bucks in incentives, not to mention a free
Speaker 1: agent walk year to motivate him. I suspect Austin is
Speaker 1: going to have a sensational year. He's going to be
Speaker 1: worth every penn. He's going to be worth every penny
Speaker 1: of those incentives. And I will not be the least
Speaker 1: bit surprised to see him lead the league in touchdowns,
Speaker 1: lead the league in receptions by a running back, receiving
Speaker 1: yards by a running back, and post a four to
Speaker 1: four and a half yard per carry average. That will
Speaker 1: not surprise me. I would be surprised if he didn't
Speaker 1: hit those numbers.
Speaker 2: And we don't have to talk about it anymore, right,
Speaker 2: It's a four Memorial Days done right. Austin's coming back
Speaker 2: and it should be exciting for Chargers fans. Two guys
Speaker 2: who spoke earlier this week, Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack
Speaker 2: and this was the Tanama year ago money we were
Speaker 2: just salivating it seeing those guys on the field together
Speaker 2: long period of time. Didn't work out that way. Khalil
Speaker 2: did stay on the field, but Joey had some injury
Speaker 2: issues and we didn't really get to see Joey and Khalil.
Speaker 2: I think how everybody envisioned it in their heads. So
Speaker 2: both of those guys back. Joey it's not something he
Speaker 2: typically does in terms of ot is. I think he
Speaker 2: came last year, but he's got a pretty strict regiment
Speaker 2: with his brother down in Florida. He said that he
Speaker 2: was asked by some coaches to come and he didn't
Speaker 2: want to let Khalil down, so he showed up in
Speaker 2: coast to Mesa and he had about a thirteen minute
Speaker 2: presser Joey is always entertaining. He's great. What did you
Speaker 2: take from what he had to say.
Speaker 1: Well, going back to your initial point, Chris, just look
Speaker 1: at the opener. Remember the opener. I mean I pulled
Speaker 1: the box score right here. You've got four and a
Speaker 1: half combined sacks, four combined tackles for loss, six combined
Speaker 1: quarterback hits. That was Bosa and Khalil Mack against a
Speaker 1: so so offensive line of the Raiders in the season opener.
Speaker 1: You go to the next week against Kansas City and
Speaker 1: both of them continued as they were both on the field.
Speaker 1: Joey with a tackle for loss and two quarterback hits,
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack with a sack, a tackle for loss and
Speaker 1: a quarterback hit. That's what we had those first two
Speaker 1: weeks before the injury occurred. So I thought Joey made
Speaker 1: a really good point, and that is and it was
Speaker 1: good to hear him say it, because we love Joey.
Speaker 1: He's great. He's got a dry sense of humor. He
Speaker 1: can be at times, he can sort of be aloof
Speaker 1: but it seems as though it's orchestrated. It's part of
Speaker 1: the personality. But I thought he was very sincere insane.
Speaker 1: I came here because Khalil's here. Normally, I'm doing what
Speaker 1: I do with Nick and my dad down in Florida.
Speaker 1: And we all know Joey comes into camp ready to go,
Speaker 1: but he specifically said, in not so many words, I
Speaker 1: owe it to this guy. We were supposed to do
Speaker 1: some great things last year, and I was gone after
Speaker 1: week three, and at thirty two years old, went out
Speaker 1: there week after week, every single play busting his tail
Speaker 1: and again paraphrasing or maybe inferring what he meant to say,
Speaker 1: let him down. You know, I let this I let it.
Speaker 1: I let this team down. I let Khalil down, and
Speaker 1: I owe it to him if he's going to be here,
Speaker 1: to be here. And that's encouraging. It's OTA's they're walking around.
Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot going on, but knowing Joey
Speaker 1: prefers to be in Florida with his dad and with
Speaker 1: his brother Nick, and that's how they like to get
Speaker 1: ready for the season, to step away from that a
Speaker 1: week early, to get back out here just to acknowledge
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate everything you did last year.
Speaker 1: Let's make let's let's do what we started let's finish
Speaker 1: what we started last year and and try to stay
Speaker 1: out there for a full season and get after it.
Speaker 2: Joey did not want to talk about the playoff game
Speaker 2: or the past. Really understandable, but you know, I don't
Speaker 2: blame him either. As a nightmare for him, well, it
Speaker 2: was a nightmare form that night in Jacksonville really for
Speaker 2: the entire defense, but Joey specifically down the especially Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you go to that Week one game, man, Khalil,
Speaker 2: I think he hit three of those four and a
Speaker 2: half sacks. I'm not mistaken. So the just I think
Speaker 2: when Joey leaves the lineup, how much of the focal
Speaker 2: point is on Khalil Mack and just stopping him. We
Speaker 2: didn't get to see it, unfortunately. I think drafting Tully
Speaker 2: and Rump in year three, I think that's encouraging to
Speaker 2: have those guys behind Bosa and Mac. But I ask
Speaker 2: you a year older both of these guys, you know,
Speaker 2: Joey going into his eighth season and Khalil you mentioned
Speaker 2: thirty two plus, what are you expecting from those guys?
Speaker 2: Should we expect this dominance from weeks one to seventeen
Speaker 2: or do we have to taper expectations a bit based
Speaker 2: on injury history and just the fact that really this
Speaker 2: is a violent sport, right and you get seventeen weeks,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can rely onto all pros
Speaker 2: pro bowler staying healthy the entire season.
Speaker 1: What I would love to see, and I had hoped
Speaker 1: to see it last year, and we just did not
Speaker 1: see it enough. I look at those first four weeks,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it, Chris, that this team has
Speaker 1: got to put teams away. They've got to be able
Speaker 1: when you've got those guys at their ages. With Joey's
Speaker 1: injury history. You know, Khalil now a full year removed
Speaker 1: from pretty serious back injury in Chicago that final year.
Speaker 1: I think it was a back injury or maybe it
Speaker 1: was a shoulder injury. Whatever it was, it kept him
Speaker 1: out for a healthy portion of the year. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, put these teams away, you know, get up,
Speaker 1: pour it on and let these guys rest in fourth
Speaker 1: quarters at Tennessee, at Minnesota Raiders at home. That's something
Speaker 1: they failed to do last year. Games they would ultimately win,
Speaker 1: but there were just far too few of those games
Speaker 1: where they got up big early and just a loud
Speaker 1: team to hang around. The Houston game comes to mind.
Speaker 1: You know, they're up big and then they just let
Speaker 1: them creep back into the game instead of being able
Speaker 1: to get a bunch of rest. Same with Cleveland. You
Speaker 1: know they go down early and it's like, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? Like they That to me is the next
Speaker 1: step in the evolution. If they're going to win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they got to start dominating teams and resting guys.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of older players on this team
Speaker 1: now in Keenan and Joey and Khalil Derwin tends to
Speaker 1: get nicked up throughout the course of the year because
Speaker 1: of how aggressive and violent a brand of football he plays.
Speaker 1: That's something that I want to see because I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any way around it. If you continue to
Speaker 1: play like the Chargers have in these close games that
Speaker 1: come down to the final possession or the final you know,
Speaker 1: four or five minutes of a quarter, it's inevitable. Guys
Speaker 1: are playing too many snaps. It's not a deep defensive line.
Speaker 1: We're already talking about a twenty year old rookie as
Speaker 1: being the third edge rusher. Unless they can find something
Speaker 1: out there on the free agent market, if Van Noy
Speaker 1: comes back, if Leonard Floyd's a reality, you're you're talking
Speaker 1: about a twenty year old rookie being the number one
Speaker 1: guy behind Joey or Khalil when each of them want
Speaker 1: to breather for a team that has Super Bowl aspirations,
Speaker 1: that's a lot to ask. So the best way to
Speaker 1: go about that is to go up three touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter so they don't have to be out
Speaker 1: there and they can get some rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when you put it like that, just where
Speaker 2: were you when you were twenty not the primary backup
Speaker 2: to Khalil Mager, Joey Bosa? Right like right, Tool's gonna
Speaker 2: I think Tools gonna be excellent. I really do. Khalil
Speaker 2: said he's super quiet, but I think he's gonna be excellent.
Speaker 2: Derek Hansley said he's wise beyond his years. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I do think twenty at least twenty
Speaker 2: years late. Bringing another edge rusher, whether it's a guy
Speaker 2: like Floyd or van Ney or whoever's out there at
Speaker 2: this point that they think makes sense, is good. Nick
Speaker 2: Williams being added to the to the rotation, just an
Speaker 2: another body across the defensive line. I think that's encouraging,
Speaker 2: but I don't think they're done at the edge position.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that there needs to
Speaker 2: be another, maybe another addition there, just because you can't
Speaker 2: fully rely on guys who are older if you don't
Speaker 2: put teams away and like Philly is the perfect example.
Speaker 2: Last year they put teams away, man and they got
Speaker 2: to move on to the next game. Chargers need to
Speaker 2: learn how to win and do those types of things.
Speaker 2: And somebody asked Joey about just you know, the history
Speaker 2: of the team and you know big moments and coming
Speaker 2: up short and big moments, and he says, this is
Speaker 2: a collective effort. Everybody has to talk about it and
Speaker 2: believe that this is the team that can get over
Speaker 2: the home So hopefully they do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing that and I think we all
Speaker 1: know how much respect we have for the front office,
Speaker 1: the incredible job they've done year after year and building
Speaker 1: this team, hitting on draft picks and finding undrafted free
Speaker 1: agents that contribute or late round pick Jamari Sawyer. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about Austin Eckler. We're going to get into
Speaker 1: the safeties. I'm sure a little bit Rahem Lane and
Speaker 1: what he was able to do special teams wise and
Speaker 1: getting out there for some snaps. They tend to find
Speaker 1: it every year. But if I am, you know, just
Speaker 1: gonna try to play it straight and be a little
Speaker 1: bit critical, I'd just love to see them be I
Speaker 1: don't know if aggressive is the right word, if creative
Speaker 1: is the right word, but I just want to see
Speaker 1: them sort of get a little more aggressive and get
Speaker 1: after it. When you see, yeah, Jeffreya Kouda getting traded
Speaker 1: for a fifth, DeAndre Swift getting traded for a fifth
Speaker 1: or a six, whatever it is, I want to see
Speaker 1: them get in on those deals, you know, get get
Speaker 1: after it a little bit like some of these teams
Speaker 1: that have these Super Bowl designs and say, yeah, fifth
Speaker 1: ground pick could be nice, and it'd be you know,
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars, say, perhaps likely special teamer who
Speaker 1: could work his way into a rotation. But that's DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a dude. It's a potential thousand yard back.
Speaker 1: That's a full service, three down back that played really
Speaker 1: well last year when he was on the field. Jeff
Speaker 1: Akuda was a number three overall pick that just had
Speaker 1: to deal with serious injuries, you know, in Detroit and
Speaker 1: couldn't quite get past it, and sort of the two
Speaker 1: sides just needed a divorce in order to try to
Speaker 1: get healthier. When I look out on the free agent
Speaker 1: market and I see Yannick and Goakway and Leonard Floyd
Speaker 1: and Marcus Peters, take a flyer, take a flyer on it.
Speaker 1: Why not if Frank Clark figure out a way to
Speaker 1: get creative, convert some salary to signing bonus. Let's get
Speaker 1: these guys in here. If you really are chasing a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, bring Bryce Callahan back, go get John Johnson.
Speaker 1: Like that's That's what I'm waiting for. That to me
Speaker 1: is the next step of recognizing this is our window.
Speaker 1: Our window is right now, and we have got to
Speaker 1: push all of our chips into the middle. These aren't
Speaker 1: development inhibitors. These are legitimate rotation players that can help
Speaker 1: us win. Now, I say that, and I understand there
Speaker 1: are two sides. Those players may say and Tom may
Speaker 1: have already called and said, wait, Leonard, we'd love to
Speaker 1: have you. We've got two and a half million bucks,
Speaker 1: and him saying, Eh, i'mna wait. I'm gonna sit this
Speaker 1: one out. I'll wait to see if somebody goes down
Speaker 1: in training camp and if I can get myself five
Speaker 1: million bucks instead of two and a half, which is fine,
Speaker 1: and that's understandable. But I think just overall some of
Speaker 1: the trades that happened, some of the Denzel Mims is
Speaker 1: a guy that we talked about forever, like I just
Speaker 1: go pluck that guy for a fifth or a sixth rounder.
Speaker 1: You look at the receivers they've signed, the receivers they've drafted.
Speaker 1: That guy's not gonna be on that Jets team. He's
Speaker 1: in the last year of his rookie deal. I get that,
Speaker 1: Go get them, Go get him, take a flyer on him,
Speaker 1: Trade a seventh round pick, trade a sixth round pick
Speaker 1: for him, and just go get him and see if
Speaker 1: that's somebody else to add to the mix, to just
Speaker 1: get more vertical with this team. That's the sort of
Speaker 1: stuff I'm waiting to see and would love to see
Speaker 1: from this front office with some of the players that
Speaker 1: are available, specifically along that defensive line. Yeah, because and
Speaker 1: that's sort of what spurred it. Chris is just thinking
Speaker 1: about You've got Bosa Khalil Mack and the next guy
Speaker 1: behind him is tull, a twenty year old that you
Speaker 1: just drafted. That's got to get resolved. That there has
Speaker 1: got to be some sort of you know, some something
Speaker 1: has got to be sorted out there, and it needs
Speaker 1: to happen probably a little bit sooner than later.
Speaker 2: I think that they, you know, you go back to
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, I think that we've started
Speaker 2: to see signs of them going forward. When you signed
Speaker 2: Corey Linsley the best center of football, you're going for it.
Speaker 2: When you signed j C. Jackson too, that record money
Speaker 2: they were going for last year, you trade for Khalil Mack.
Speaker 2: So you hope that the fruits of some of those
Speaker 2: decisions will will will bear this year with JC coming
Speaker 2: back Week one, with Khalil being able to operate as
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack, with Joey Bosa on the other side, Corey
Speaker 2: has been a rock. You know, he had some injuries
Speaker 2: bang up a little bit this year, but you know,
Speaker 2: Corey's at.
Speaker 1: The top of you I guess you know what, Chris,
Speaker 1: That's why maybe aggressive isn't the right word, because you're right, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have been aggressive. They made Corey the highest paid center,
Speaker 1: the second rounder for Khalil. I think what I'm getting
Speaker 1: to is creative, like, just pick up the phone and
Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start calling around. Let's let's look at
Speaker 1: some of these rosters and figure out where is their excess.
Speaker 1: Where might we be on the margins? Where can we
Speaker 1: get creative on the margins? To me, the Eagles plucking
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift the second they recognize they signed Montgomery Jamir
Speaker 1: Gibbs's draft that, Hey, boom, let's call what are you
Speaker 1: doing with Swift? What do you got? Fifth rounder? Great?
Speaker 1: Let's go who is available?
Speaker 2: Penny? You know, doing those little things. They traded for
Speaker 2: A j. Brown the year before. I think just continuing
Speaker 2: to keep get creative, your foot on the gas right
Speaker 2: throughout the year too, you know. And you just go
Speaker 2: back to the Rams a couple of years ago when
Speaker 2: they traded for Von Miller and Odell Beckham, and you know,
Speaker 2: the first three weeks, oh is this gonna backfire? And
Speaker 2: then they hit their stride and they won a Super Bowl? Right,
Speaker 2: So I think that they have so much talent on
Speaker 2: this team money. I'm one hundred percent with you get creative.
Speaker 2: Say hey, we need that third edgresser that's a veteran
Speaker 2: to protect ourselves in case Joey or Khalil goes down
Speaker 2: and has to miss some time. I think they did
Speaker 2: that at the wide receiver position with with Quinton and
Speaker 2: having Keenan and Mike there and seeing Josh Palmer's development corner.
Speaker 2: You know, the way that that Zon came on last
Speaker 2: year and Michael Davis came on. If you get j C.
Speaker 2: Jackson back and you bring Bryce Callahan, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're you're cooking in the secondary. You know, we know
Speaker 2: what Derwin is. We talked a lot in depth about
Speaker 2: the safety position last UH last week with Jalil, about
Speaker 2: Gilman and just how J. T. Woods needs to come
Speaker 2: on with three. But there are things to be done
Speaker 2: right and who knows if it's a if it's another
Speaker 2: running back, you know, if Zeke Elliott is there and
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore knows him and he ain't gonna cost much,
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. Bring creative in, you know, get
Speaker 2: creative and stay aggressive. I think that's the that's kind
Speaker 2: of the model of this year because it's not just
Speaker 2: by getting to the wildcard run. You have to win
Speaker 2: a couple of games this year.
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, no doubt, no doubt, team's ready to
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's that's just you know,
Speaker 1: and you have to the front office has to respond
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: If you're you're getting better, you're getting worse. Very few
Speaker 1: teams plateau because everything around you is changing. Are the
Speaker 1: Chiefs getting better? They getting worse? Are the Broncos getting better?
Speaker 1: Getting worse? Are the Raiders getting better? Are they getting worse?
Speaker 1: Are you getting better? Are you getting worse? Easiest way
Speaker 1: into the postseasons to win the division? Look at the division?
Speaker 1: How do we stack up? What do we need to
Speaker 1: stack up better? You know, you probably got to go
Speaker 1: at Patrick Mahomes in waves, right, You've got to get
Speaker 1: after You've got to be able to put thirty points
Speaker 1: up against the Chiefs. You're not going to win the game, right,
Speaker 1: So let's make sure the offense can score thirty against them,
Speaker 1: and let's make sure the defense has enough depth where
Speaker 1: we can come and wait and we can chase him
Speaker 1: down snap after snap after snap so he does not
Speaker 1: get a breather. And that's something that that need, I
Speaker 1: believe still needs to be addressed on the edges, yep.
Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe after June first, we'll have
Speaker 2: a little bit more clarity and you're hunt right. Maybe
Speaker 2: they called Leonard Floyd. Andy said, hey, what do you think?
Speaker 2: And he says, well, I want to wait it out
Speaker 2: a little bit. I got some of the teams calling.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of moving parts here. He remember
Speaker 2: we talked about this before. The guys like van Ney
Speaker 2: and Morgan Fox were signed after the draft in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. So buddy, we'll end here the the onerous meetings.
Speaker 2: Some interesting things going down there. Do you want to
Speaker 2: start with this special teams rule because it's it's I
Speaker 2: can't imagine special teams coordinators are too thrilled with what's
Speaker 2: going to take place this upcoming season.
Speaker 1: Well certainly negates drafting Darius Davis, you know, and the
Speaker 1: right to use a fourth rounder and pay a premium
Speaker 1: on a returner when you recognize, no matter where they
Speaker 1: drop that ball, that would be my And this is
Speaker 1: where it's going to be interesting for coach Ficking. And
Speaker 1: this is where offensive coordinators get in trouble. And when
Speaker 1: you run the ball for five yards a clip and
Speaker 1: you're an effective offense and you're winning games, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're OC wants to a little
Speaker 1: creative and throw the ball around, because hey man, nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about me if we're just running the
Speaker 1: ball and winning games twenty four to eighteen. So I've
Speaker 1: got I got to put some sizzle in there, and
Speaker 1: that's how you end up losing games. So for coach Ficking,
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to how he's gonna want
Speaker 1: to approach it because to me, give me the ball
Speaker 1: to twenty five every time, Yeah, give me the ball
Speaker 1: twenty I am not returning.
Speaker 2: For people that don't know. For you to react with
Speaker 2: lead owners running Tuesday a one year trial of an
Speaker 2: enhanced touchback rule that will give the receiving team the
Speaker 2: ball on its own twenty five with a fair catch
Speaker 2: of a kickoff anywhere behind that yard line. So essentially,
Speaker 2: if you call for a fair catch, you're getting the
Speaker 2: ball to twenty five.
Speaker 1: And that's a no brainer. Yeah, that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: You avoid how many times do we see block in
Speaker 1: the back holding all those special teams penalties half the
Speaker 1: distance to the goal that back you up. If I
Speaker 1: am guaranteed to start a kick to start my drive
Speaker 1: at the twenty five, let's go, that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: I would, unless you better be damn sure if you're
Speaker 1: Darius Davis that you're going to get that ball past
Speaker 1: the twenty five and that our special team's unit is
Speaker 1: not going to commit a penalty. If you're not going
Speaker 1: to wave that right hand, I don't want it brought
Speaker 1: out of the end zone. I don't want it returned.
Speaker 1: Twenty five is incredible field position. Incredible field position. You've
Speaker 1: got so much breathing room now, So to me, to me,
Speaker 1: if you were to pull not special teams coaches, but
Speaker 1: if you were to pull head coaches and say, do
Speaker 1: we even need to kick off? No, you don't just
Speaker 1: put the ball to twenty five. You don't even need
Speaker 1: to kick off. You can put the ball at to
Speaker 1: twenty five, and that's where we're going to start our
Speaker 1: drive every single time. It's it's a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to pull the special teams coordinators
Speaker 2: around the league to see how this affects strategy and
Speaker 2: just kind of how they do business, how they practice. Frankly,
Speaker 2: you know, because this is this is very simple. You
Speaker 2: wait for a fair catch, you get the palled to
Speaker 2: twenty five. It's almost essentially eliminating the kickoff. Like this
Speaker 2: is a one year try this may be it for
Speaker 2: the kickoff.
Speaker 1: And it's, like I said, it's unfortunate that it comes
Speaker 1: a month after the Chargers expended a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: on a returner, then paid a premium for a returner
Speaker 1: because now it's fifty percent of what you drafted him
Speaker 1: for is essentially gone. And look in some games, if
Speaker 1: if you get a couple of kickoffs here and there,
Speaker 1: and you're waving the flag, you know you're waving for
Speaker 1: the fair catch, and you want to catch the defense
Speaker 1: the special teams unit flat footed. Okay, let's go. That
Speaker 1: can be a little flat footed. We fair caught the
Speaker 1: last two. Let's get after it, so what we can do.
Speaker 1: So that's that's part of the strategy as well. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, give me the ball twenty five.
Speaker 1: I got Justin Herbert, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler.
Speaker 1: Give me the ball at the twenty five. I'm more
Speaker 1: than happy to get there.
Speaker 2: Ten places seventy five yard touchdown drive with Justin Herbert Exactly.
Speaker 1: It's too easy.
Speaker 2: The emergency quarterback rule, so this was approved to it.
Speaker 2: It allows teams to play an emergency quarterback from the
Speaker 2: inactive list if the first two are injured during a game.
Speaker 2: So this is interesting too because it doesn't the quarterback
Speaker 2: has to be on the fifty three man roster, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't count towards the actives inactives on game day.
Speaker 2: So essentially it pays to have a third quarterback on
Speaker 2: your team if something goes down. So I wonder how
Speaker 2: this will affect fifty three man rosters around the league
Speaker 2: if you know you have this rule in place.
Speaker 1: To me, look, it's a rule that was put in
Speaker 1: place because of a high profile game. If Brock Purty
Speaker 1: goes down in Week sixteen, yeah, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those we can't We can't do what we did in
Speaker 1: an NFC championship game and have Christian McCaffrey back there
Speaker 1: taking snaps or have to shove a guy out there
Speaker 1: with a destroyed shoulder in order to take snaps and
Speaker 1: complete the remainder of the sixty minutes that was still
Speaker 1: on the clock. I don't think it'll affect teams carrying
Speaker 1: two or three quarterbacks. I don't get the sense that'll happen.
Speaker 1: To me, it's having the quarterback on the fifty three
Speaker 1: man roster sort of defeats the purpose of it. I
Speaker 1: suppose if you go into the postseason, you would maybe
Speaker 1: do that just to protect yourself. But the idea that
Speaker 1: you're going to get two quarterbacks knocked out of the
Speaker 1: same game in able to return is such a long
Speaker 1: long I mean talk about long odds. So this to
Speaker 1: me was just we can't afford to have that happen
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game again, and we're going to
Speaker 1: acknowledge let's make sure it doesn't.
Speaker 2: So if you use the charges as an example, though
Speaker 2: essentially Chase Daniel was the primary backup last year, Stick
Speaker 2: was an act of most games. Easton Stick would be
Speaker 2: dressed for games now right, just in case something were
Speaker 2: to happen. He just he'd be dressed, but would not
Speaker 2: count towards the actives. In actives if I read this correctly.
Speaker 1: So an, yeah, Herbert goes out of the game, can't return,
Speaker 1: Chase goes out of the game, can't return. Now you
Speaker 1: can activate that guy. He goes out there to play quarterback.
Speaker 1: So Austin Ekiler isn't taken snaps or Michael Williams isn't
Speaker 1: taking snaps or something along though Derwin James isn't taking
Speaker 1: snaps at quarterback. That's that's all. That's therefore, you know
Speaker 1: the bigger and I know you're gonna get to it, Chris,
Speaker 1: But to me, the so that one is just that's
Speaker 1: the brock Rock party rule. I don't suspect it's going
Speaker 1: to have much impact. The other one, though, was the
Speaker 1: Thursday Night flex. Yeah, you can now flex Thursday night
Speaker 1: game from week thirteen to seventeen, which is it's crazy
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's get into that, because you know, the kickoff
Speaker 2: thing was this safety related thing. This frankly, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's a safety related thing because teams can now
Speaker 2: be flexed out or flexed into Thursday night games from
Speaker 2: weeks thirteen to seventeen. This affects the Chargers because the
Speaker 2: Chargers play the Raiders inside that window. I can't imagine
Speaker 2: a world and where they would be flexed out because
Speaker 2: it's Chargers Raiders. Yet it's possible, and it has to
Speaker 2: be twenty eight days out, and I don't believe a
Speaker 2: team can be on Thursday Night Football more than twice.
Speaker 2: So the Steelers I think were on three times, so
Speaker 2: they're not even eligible to be flexed into a game
Speaker 2: during that period. But your thoughts on this, this this
Speaker 2: screams to me. Amazon wants it, so we got to
Speaker 2: give it to him.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. It's taking care of your partners to
Speaker 1: give you billions and billions of dollars. So for the
Speaker 1: Chargers are playing week fifteen, it's week thirteen through week seventeen.
Speaker 1: So if the Chargers are on Thursday at football, week
Speaker 1: fifteen serves that they're not going to get flexed in
Speaker 1: week fourteen or week sixteen. So you go to week thirteen,
Speaker 1: Cowboys on Thursday at football. I don't care how bad
Speaker 1: they are. I don't care how bad their opponent is.
Speaker 1: Cowboys are never being taken off of a primetime game,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Amazon is not going to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's get rid of that Cowboy game.
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen no matter what the records are.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, they're obviously not going to get flexed
Speaker 1: into week fourteen because they're already playing in Week fifteen.
Speaker 1: That week they've got a home game against Denver. I
Speaker 1: suppose if you want to start flex flex flex because
Speaker 1: it's twenty eight days out, they could say, oh, the
Speaker 1: Raiders have two wins at this point, Let's flex out
Speaker 1: that Charger Raider game from week fifteen. Let's put in
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Broncos, who have tied records right now
Speaker 1: in week fourteen, so that sort of thing could happen
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. They're not getting flexed into there because they've
Speaker 1: got the Peacock game against Buffalo and they're obviously not
Speaker 1: going to at NBC if the Chargers are good. We
Speaker 1: suspect both the Chargers and Bills are going to be good.
Speaker 1: They have no interest in giving up that particular game,
Speaker 1: so that's going to stay where it is. Then you
Speaker 1: go to week seventeen. That's where it gets interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Week seventeen is the one because they could point to, well,
Speaker 1: Chargers got an extra day rest because they played on Saturday,
Speaker 1: so you know, or Buffalo. I look at those two games,
Speaker 1: Patriots at Buffalo, Chargers at Denver. These two teams played
Speaker 1: on Saturday, so they've got an extra day of rest
Speaker 1: before we're going to flex them into this Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: It's Chargers at Denver. So that's the one that I
Speaker 1: could see perhaps affecting the Chargers because the league could
Speaker 1: say at least one of these teams has an extra
Speaker 1: day of rest, safety being a concern, all that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. It'sad the Chargers are the road team. They've
Speaker 1: got Saturday game at home. That gives them that extra
Speaker 1: day to prepare for Thursday night going to Denver. That's
Speaker 1: something I could envision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, playoff implications if the Broncos are surprising with Sean
Speaker 2: Paton and Russell Wilson. You got Joe Lombardies the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: You got some different different ties there, right, that could
Speaker 2: be fun Broncos charges. But I don't know. I mean, overall,
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand why they're doing it. The
Speaker 2: Amazon's a new partner. Some of the games that they
Speaker 2: had were brutal, and that's being kind. Last year, do
Speaker 2: you remember the Colts Broncos game?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean to me, I just feel like
Speaker 1: they've got a really good schedule this year. The Thursday
Speaker 1: and had schedule is really I mean, the games were
Speaker 1: like if the Chargers Broncos game were to be flexed
Speaker 1: in the week seventeen, it's taken away Jets, Browns Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson versus Aaron Rodgers and New York team. That's that's
Speaker 1: a good game Week sixteen. Yeah, Week sixteen is the
Speaker 1: one everyone's pointing two Saints at Rams. If the Rams
Speaker 1: are tanking for Caleb Williams and they are in a
Speaker 1: position with three games left at that point and they're
Speaker 1: in a in a horse race a little ding dong
Speaker 1: action with another with Tampa or whomever it may be
Speaker 1: for the number one or the number two pick, then
Speaker 1: that's where I could see, Okay, they're they're throwing in
Speaker 1: the towel. They want Caleb Williams. We can't put this
Speaker 1: in prime time. That's where it could get flex And
Speaker 1: that's the one where I said the Chargers can't get
Speaker 1: flexed into there because they're already on National TV that
Speaker 1: Peacock game for NBC to try to help their streaming
Speaker 1: service against the Bills. So that's that's really the only
Speaker 1: one that I see being a reality. Everything else looks like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those those games are going to be played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drafts in Green Bay in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: the San Francisco, I guess Santa Clara is getting Super
Speaker 2: Bowl Super Bowl sixty and the Commanders are on their
Speaker 2: way to being sold to the Josh Harris Group and
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. How about that.
Speaker 1: There we go. How about that Magic? Another another team down.
Speaker 1: It's going pretty well for the Dodgers since he took
Speaker 1: over right Tall Hill, l A.
Speaker 2: F C, the Sparks. I think Magic has championships with
Speaker 2: all the teams, you know. Yeah, don't hold your breath.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying exactly all right, guys, that's gonna do
Speaker 2: it for us. We'll keep you a date, keep you
Speaker 2: up to date on all things OTAs as we get towards,
Speaker 2: uh that that mandatory minicamp in June, and then it's
Speaker 2: gonna get a little slow, but we're keeping our eye
Speaker 2: on June first and anything that could happen as it
Speaker 2: relates to the charges roster for money. I'm Chris. This
Speaker 2: has been Chargers.
Speaker 1: We