Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to ja dot com, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: welcome back. My name is Questlove.
Speaker 3: Last week we had this long overdue talk with our friend,
Speaker 3: our love, Jill Scott. Coming up without further ado, Part
Speaker 3: two of our exciting interview on Quest Love Supreme, One
Speaker 3: and only Miss Jill Scott. This is like our first
Speaker 3: real extended conversation has lasted more than an hour in
Speaker 3: our twenty years of knowing each other.
Speaker 4: Now I understand why she ended up working with Jazz
Speaker 4: and Jail.
Speaker 1: And I was trying. I called. I called James Poyser
Speaker 1: because I knew him from the Jam sessions. I called
Speaker 1: every producer that I knew of, every studio that I
Speaker 1: knew of, to find out if they needed a writer
Speaker 1: or a singer. And for six months, nobody said anything.
Speaker 1: And then one day I saw Jazzy Jeff on the
Speaker 1: street talking to Rich Medina and I was like, what's up.
Speaker 1: I'm just annoyed, you know, heading to the theater, go
Speaker 1: sweep floors and clean toilets. And I walked away and
Speaker 1: Jeff was like, who's that? And Rich told him. Now,
Speaker 1: that's Joe Scott. He was like, that's Jill Scout. She
Speaker 1: calls my studio every day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then they called me in to see if I
Speaker 1: could write a song, but I, you know, still lying.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, I write a song. And
Speaker 1: I tried it and it worked out. It just and
Speaker 1: it kept working out, and it just until the album
Speaker 1: happened and you have work.
Speaker 2: When was the first song that you wrote?
Speaker 1: The first song had a touch of jazz, The first
Speaker 1: song that I ever wrote, Well, the hook I ever
Speaker 1: wrote was you got me?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, dog, that's what she said.
Speaker 5: She said, she faked her.
Speaker 3: I know that, but I still was hoping to get
Speaker 3: clarity that my song wasn't your first, got my first.
Speaker 5: But that's what you get?
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: I am for all listening to this episode. That's a
Speaker 3: life lesson. You stepped into some ship, into an opportunity.
Speaker 3: I would have thought that by that point you, I mean,
Speaker 3: you handled it like you've been doing this ship for
Speaker 3: seven eight years. You I've never once heard you say
Speaker 3: this is the first song I ever wrote? And wait? Also,
Speaker 3: how it feels to be Drake famous? Did you like
Speaker 3: your shout out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is this is his second one?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I the first time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wait, we got two Drake icons on the line.
Speaker 1: What he said, Jill? Huh?
Speaker 5: What did he say to you? I missed it?
Speaker 2: He talked about his question on Jill Scott on this
Speaker 2: new album.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'll go listen to that.
Speaker 2: All the kids are listening to it.
Speaker 5: It's very sweet, man, you banging, I mean, okay, yeah, she.
Speaker 1: Got thanks ma'am. Thanks yo.
Speaker 6: But Jill, weren't you one of the one of the
Speaker 6: rare artists that actually got the whole touch of jazz
Speaker 6: involved in your record, because it's not like too many
Speaker 6: artists that have everybody right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it like at the point where they
Speaker 3: were together like.
Speaker 1: As magic magic? I missed that, I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I missed the most. We had so
Speaker 1: much fun in every room. They were working every room,
Speaker 1: five rooms, four rooms or whatever it was at the time.
Speaker 1: You just walk out of one and go to the
Speaker 1: next a totally different energy, and then you go in
Speaker 1: the next room and laugh hysterically. Vidal of course, was
Speaker 1: hilarious and still is. And and Dre is learning how
Speaker 1: to play the guitar at the time, and Keith is
Speaker 1: straight out of church, so all of his stuff everything,
Speaker 1: and he puts his fingers to on the keys. It
Speaker 1: just feels like like old soul because the church that
Speaker 1: he was in his father was a pastor, and it
Speaker 1: just felt old and rich and everything. It was. We
Speaker 1: had fun. We didn't have any money. We shared cheese steaks,
Speaker 1: We cut out, cut out the McDonald's bags to go
Speaker 1: to great events, not great adventures. All rolled in Dre's car.
Speaker 1: It had a hole in the floor if you're sat
Speaker 1: in the front seat and not fall asleep and let
Speaker 1: your feet fall in the hole because it was a rap.
Speaker 1: We were broke and it was fun and it was
Speaker 1: probably still the best time I ever had.
Speaker 4: It were working, you were working on the album or
Speaker 4: what would become the album. This was before Hidden Beach
Speaker 4: even came into the picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had been calling Jeff and finally he'd seen
Speaker 1: me and he said, okay, you can come in. I
Speaker 1: called again and said why did you come down? And
Speaker 1: none of the guys wanted to give me any music?
Speaker 1: So I kind of hung around, stood around, hung around
Speaker 1: and said, well, do you have anything that you know
Speaker 1: that I could take? And they were like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we're working with Will Smooth. We're working with you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, well, this studio. I got
Speaker 1: to find a way to come back here. You know,
Speaker 1: the lobby, the wood is exposed. Can I stand in
Speaker 1: poll of your thing the lobby so to look seriously,
Speaker 1: I'm very serious. And Jeff was like, oh, that would
Speaker 1: look nice. And I said, well, you know, can I
Speaker 1: do it? And he was like all right, I'll give
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give you money for the supplies. And
Speaker 1: I stayed in poly ery thing the lobby and so
Speaker 1: Scott was going on in the other rooms, and you know,
Speaker 1: they would come out and leave the door open and
Speaker 1: let me hear sometimes or I would, you know, go
Speaker 1: in for a minute and to say, oh I like that.
Speaker 1: And then eventually they gave me a tape and they
Speaker 1: had seven songs on them, and those seven songs ended
Speaker 1: up being on who is Joe Scott?
Speaker 6: And the Rain was after that? Right, I'm sorry, you said,
Speaker 6: Will Smith. So I just automatically went to the rain.
Speaker 6: It happened later okay.
Speaker 1: After after they started letting me write and then uh sing,
Speaker 1: because I had to let him know I wasn't planning
Speaker 1: on singing but I had to let him know how
Speaker 1: it went, and they were like, oh, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was good. Wait minute you sing?
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, Joe would be ready in one
Speaker 6: of them seven songs.
Speaker 1: Be Ready came later. Damn, okay, be Ready came later.
Speaker 1: I love that song.
Speaker 2: But the most amazing story I've ever heard, Mom.
Speaker 4: One thing we never talking about, like your voice? How
Speaker 4: did you develop your voice? You said you didn't like
Speaker 4: really sing in choirs or church or whatever. How did
Speaker 4: you develop your style?
Speaker 1: I did sing at Girls High, but we sang classical
Speaker 1: music primarily, and that just it just felt nice to me.
Speaker 1: And then they sent me on some school trip and
Speaker 1: I saw Kathleen Battle sing and was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was such thing as a
Speaker 1: black opera singer, Like this is dope. And then I
Speaker 1: mostly honestly, I just started being a mimic. I mimicked
Speaker 1: Anita Baker, I mimicked philisheymon, Kathleen Battle mimicked her.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: I I think that is where it started. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have any plans to sing at all. I'm
Speaker 1: still amazed. I'm still like, what do you want me to?
Speaker 1: What word? All right?
Speaker 4: Okay, So yeah, Jeff, he said the same thing about
Speaker 4: He said, like, y'all first started working that and you can,
Speaker 4: you know, tell me for stret He was saying that
Speaker 4: they kind of had to convince you, I guess, to sing,
Speaker 4: like you know, they were more so interested in doing
Speaker 4: the poetry. But he was like, yo, what the hell, Like, nah,
Speaker 4: you need to do that ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He was kind of pushing you.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was definitely a motivating force. And then
Speaker 1: I think when I when I started singing in front
Speaker 1: of people, this was before that. I mean yeah, this
Speaker 1: was before Hit a Touch of Jazz or Hitting Beach
Speaker 1: or any of that. Richmond, Dina and I we were
Speaker 1: sitting outside my house and normally and things had gone
Speaker 1: real bad. I knew all, iknew, all the crackheads. Nobody
Speaker 1: ever bothered me. You know, somebody would like try to
Speaker 1: run up on me or whatever, and then they sing
Speaker 1: it like oh hey Jill, and if they were real hot,
Speaker 1: like Jill Jill, you know right, you know, they got
Speaker 1: to give you a double double name. That's right, right,
Speaker 1: what's something? Or mayor then some guy pulled up on
Speaker 1: us and tried to rob us sitting in front of
Speaker 1: my house and shot at us. Actually, Richard pulled off
Speaker 1: and the guy shot at us, and everything I think
Speaker 1: was different. We had a poetry reading the next day
Speaker 1: and I went to it in my pajamas because I
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out how to put clothes on. Like, my
Speaker 1: safety was gone. Everything I knew that was my own,
Speaker 1: this is my hood, these are my crackheads, this is
Speaker 1: my drug dealers, this is my block. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: safe was gone. And I instead of writing or reciting
Speaker 1: the poem I had written, I just started singing. And
Speaker 1: that was that was a beginning. Must have been two No,
Speaker 1: couldn't have been two thousand and probably ninety eight, ninety yeah,
Speaker 1: probably like ninety eight, gotcha. And that's when I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I could do this. You know, I probably
Speaker 1: could do this. I'll just try to be a writer
Speaker 1: because Lord knows, I don't want to be famous.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And so what was that like? Well, first of all,
Speaker 3: there's a question I had about your block. The house
Speaker 3: that the video to Long Walk is connected to. Is
Speaker 3: that your childhood home? Yes, And the same house is
Speaker 3: getting in the way.
Speaker 5: You're just sitting in front the.
Speaker 1: One that I came out of for getting in the
Speaker 1: way is across the street from my house. I passed
Speaker 1: my house right and the one that I was sitting
Speaker 1: on the steps for a long Walk, that's a neighbor's.
Speaker 3: I gotta say the intro to long Walk, no Philly
Speaker 3: Strong the intro yeah, well, no, no, no, I don't even
Speaker 3: mean the video. Of course the video too, because you're
Speaker 3: smiling all that stuff, but that the ten second, the
Speaker 3: first fifteen seconds of long Walk. The song is probably
Speaker 3: like I have like my top five happy adrenaline moments,
Speaker 3: like things I have to hear if I need to
Speaker 3: like get in a mood of happiness or whatever. Long
Speaker 3: Walk and herb Alberts Route one oh one or those
Speaker 3: two songs, which is where.
Speaker 4: To come.
Speaker 2: Don't look up herb Alberts.
Speaker 3: People associated that with the dentist office happy song, But yeah, man,
Speaker 3: it's something that like.
Speaker 2: Do you ever get tired of.
Speaker 3: People's fandom of because I feel as though they don't
Speaker 3: give your entire catalog a fair shot. Only because I
Speaker 3: think that sort of like your association with the Whiz,
Speaker 3: I think the sentimental attachment to discovering you as an artist,
Speaker 3: as a fan discover you as an artist? And what
Speaker 3: the soundtrack of that album for everyone in two thousand,
Speaker 3: like it was perfect because no one saw it coming,
Speaker 3: and to me, nobody saw it coming. Like literally on
Speaker 3: I'll say the soundtrack to the Voodoo Tour was like
Speaker 3: just playing it every twenty four to seven. If I'm
Speaker 3: not playing it, Anthony Hamilton's playing in the back even
Speaker 3: you know, D'Angelo is so retro, like he wouldn't dare
Speaker 3: listen to anything older than like thirty years Like even
Speaker 3: he's rocking that shit because no one is expecting it.
Speaker 3: Like how how was it the first go round in
Speaker 3: your taste of celebrity and your relationship with your family,
Speaker 3: your relationship with your friends, and I might have to
Speaker 3: move out of this neighborhood like separation?
Speaker 2: Can you come back?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: What's Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: In Thanksgiving two thousand and one? Like what was it?
Speaker 3: What was it like the first year and a half
Speaker 3: that after that album came out?
Speaker 1: Well it I could say there were a lot more
Speaker 1: people at the family reunion than they ever.
Speaker 5: Showed up for sure.
Speaker 2: The story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I didn't expect anything, so I got way
Speaker 1: more than I expected because I wasn't expecting anything, but
Speaker 1: Lizella and I were living together and uh and our
Speaker 1: little second floor walk up and people were riding by
Speaker 1: playing the music at three, four o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: you know, just highest capacity, just so loud, and I
Speaker 1: at first, honestly, I was blown I just was blown away.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect anything, so I was really didn't know
Speaker 1: how to take it, didn't didn't know what to feel
Speaker 1: about it either. Oh, it just started to hurt.
Speaker 2: In what way.
Speaker 1: Because people there were the presumption that they knew everything
Speaker 1: about me or who I was instead of just meeting me,
Speaker 1: and that hurt. It hurt me, Like I've got right,
Speaker 1: I heard I know her from this to that. She's
Speaker 1: like this, so she's like that, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: still growing, I'm still figuring it out. I I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm out here trying to live.
Speaker 5: And you still have.
Speaker 6: And they gave you the earthy label too, which for
Speaker 6: us at black radio, trying to play your radio, play
Speaker 6: your song, we were trying to make people understand the
Speaker 6: difference in earthy and neo soul people and regular old folks,
Speaker 6: and the fact that they were regular old folks.
Speaker 5: She wrote a song about beating a bitious ass like
Speaker 5: why can't.
Speaker 2: She be There's nothing conscious about this.
Speaker 5: But they put you in that bubble.
Speaker 1: Bubbles happened. You know. I didn't like that either. I
Speaker 1: just didn't like the world thing and that they knew
Speaker 1: who or what or why I was even here before
Speaker 1: I did. You know, I'm still figuring it out twenty
Speaker 1: years later. You know, who is Jill Scott? So much
Speaker 1: has changed, you know, it's way different than it was
Speaker 1: last year. You know, I'm a mother of eleven year old.
Speaker 1: Now that's way different from ten. I don't care who
Speaker 1: you talk to.
Speaker 2: You talk now.
Speaker 1: Aren't you them teaching me handy? They have to? You know,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a pandemic. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Who do I become in the middle of a pandemic?
Speaker 1: Or who does anybody become? You know, I still like
Speaker 1: simple things, no matter how fancy my life may appear.
Speaker 1: I still hug trees. I think they're the bomb.
Speaker 5: I do argument about you being earthy, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: That's what I flirt with them. You know, I'm still
Speaker 1: very very simple in these ways, and I treasure that
Speaker 1: about myself. Take it all with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: All the time, all the time. I don't need I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need the athlete so much. What I need
Speaker 1: is to be able to pay all my bills. I
Speaker 1: need to be able to go on vacations and enjoy them.
Speaker 1: I need to be able to help my people where
Speaker 1: I can. I need to be able to not worry
Speaker 1: that I'm headed back where it came from, because I
Speaker 1: don't want to go. I don't want to be shot at.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to have to fend off,
Speaker 1: you know, crackheads trying to shoot at me. I don't
Speaker 1: want that light.
Speaker 3: So you have nightmares of one day this could be
Speaker 3: over and I'll be back at twenty third and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah.
Speaker 1: I have nightmares of not having food in the pantry.
Speaker 7: That is.
Speaker 1: That's a big one. I remember that. It comes from
Speaker 1: quite some time where neighbors Jehovah witnesses particularly, were coming
Speaker 1: by dropping off baskets of food because we didn't have any.
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, it's not like I'm really pulling
Speaker 1: out a violin for sad songs. This is my existence,
Speaker 1: this is my life, and these are the things that
Speaker 1: keep me grounded. I know that it only.
Speaker 8: Takes one wrong phrase or one wrong song, or one
Speaker 8: wrong role, or you know, to have to have a
Speaker 8: society cancel you or or shoe you away and not value.
Speaker 1: You, know, what you bring to the table. I don't
Speaker 1: think that I'm the greatest singer. I think that I
Speaker 1: offer a lot of spirit. I think that whatever if
Speaker 1: it's passion or lust, if it's if it's fear or
Speaker 1: pain or happiness, simple joys, whatever they may be, thought
Speaker 1: process when I sing, you can hear that. And that's
Speaker 1: my gift. I'm able to convey emotions well.
Speaker 4: And I'm aware now you you do that well, and
Speaker 4: you I always want to tell you this, like you
Speaker 4: really played a big role, probably unknowingly for me. I
Speaker 4: was doing the session with Jeff like some years ago,
Speaker 4: and it was a little brother song and me and
Speaker 4: Pooh we were driving up the Delaware and we had
Speaker 4: in our mind, okay, it's rapt the rap rap time.
Speaker 4: We about to damn wrap this nig under the table,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so were just like,
Speaker 4: all right, this rap the rap rap, And so we
Speaker 4: get to the spot and Jeff is just playing like
Speaker 4: all these kind of R and B records you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And they were dope.
Speaker 4: I mean, the shit was dope, but it was not
Speaker 4: what we expected, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 4: we ended up doing the song where pooh rhymed, and
Speaker 4: I mean I ended up singing on it. And so
Speaker 4: I was just singing because Jeff had to catch your
Speaker 4: flight and stuff, and so I'm just kind of cutting vocals,
Speaker 4: not really thinking about it. And so I came out
Speaker 4: to booth and I was like, Jeff had this look
Speaker 4: on his face. I thought I had fucked up. I said, Man,
Speaker 4: what's wrong? He was like, man, you need to be
Speaker 4: singing all this time. You need to be singing. I
Speaker 4: was like, Jeff, Dude, I just kind of did it
Speaker 4: because that's what we had. I don't really want to
Speaker 4: do it. He was like, man, you know who the
Speaker 4: same you know who else said that? You know who
Speaker 4: else said that same ship. I was like, who he said?
Speaker 2: Jill?
Speaker 4: And I was like, damn, like word and he said
Speaker 4: at that time that he told me, he said, man,
Speaker 4: and sometimes people can see things in you that you
Speaker 4: don't see in yourself.
Speaker 2: He was like, bro, you got something keep doing.
Speaker 4: And that's something that I always always just wanted to
Speaker 4: share that with you. You know you really When I when
Speaker 4: I heard when when he heard when I heard him
Speaker 4: say that Jill Scott didn't think she was a good singer,
Speaker 4: I said, well, nigga got damn. Everybody must say they
Speaker 4: voice then, because I love your voice, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 2: But that was that was really that was really inspiring
Speaker 2: to me. Jill.
Speaker 3: What is your preparation for acting and how different how
Speaker 3: does it differ to your preparation for singing and songwriting?
Speaker 3: Like what's your creative process? Are you meditation?
Speaker 2: Is it? Like? What's what's your creative approach to it?
Speaker 1: Probably terror is the first step for me, Like I
Speaker 1: just don't want to fuck up so bad. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be the weak link in the room. I
Speaker 1: don't that. That's like, I just don't want that.
Speaker 5: What was the first one, Jie?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 5: Why did I get married?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the first TV show was Girlfriends and Marlbrock I
Speaker 1: killed gave me an ARC. She had never even seen
Speaker 1: me act before and gave me an ARC. And I
Speaker 1: was like, come on, God, like, I'm just like out
Speaker 1: here blessed like crazy, and it's like ridiculous goodness, gracious anyway,
Speaker 1: how do I prepare like versus it's terror? And then
Speaker 1: there's homework, because so I could be prepared, and I
Speaker 1: study a lot, a lot. I try to take walks
Speaker 1: where I can and be still where I can, and
Speaker 1: then I need to move my body, you know, so
Speaker 1: that I could feel that person you know in me
Speaker 1: around me. And then the famous line is to be
Speaker 1: that guy. That's it, be that guy at all costs,
Speaker 1: whatever that means.
Speaker 6: Who challenged you the most in his acting journey, like
Speaker 6: as far as like direction.
Speaker 1: Anthony Miguela, he was he directed the talent in mister Ripley. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think in the Piano lesson Cold Mountain.
Speaker 2: HBO series. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yes, he auditioned me six times, Yes, for hours. It
Speaker 1: was the most gruesome experience. At some point I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck you either you want me or you don't, Like
Speaker 1: I can't keep coming here, or I need you to
Speaker 1: come tomorrow. Come to New York tomorrow, dude, like I
Speaker 1: have other things that I have to do. Seriously, you
Speaker 1: gotta know by now if you want me or not.
Speaker 1: And his auditions were brutal. Okay, say the lines and
Speaker 1: now your your left rib is cracked. Go okay, say
Speaker 1: the lines and now you have something stuck in your
Speaker 1: right eyelash. Go now say the lines and your you
Speaker 1: can't stop, you can't stop drooling.
Speaker 5: Go wow, that sounds good.
Speaker 3: He had obstacle after obstacle after challenge after it, instruction
Speaker 3: or I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what he was doing, but being Anthony Miguela,
Speaker 1: the man won like eight oscars exactly.
Speaker 6: And you were the first black woman to help to
Speaker 6: lead a HBO series.
Speaker 5: So ship, Yeah, it wasn't going to be either. Yeah,
Speaker 5: welcome in Front.
Speaker 1: I was. I was really hurt when I didn't win
Speaker 1: an nua a c P image word for that role.
Speaker 1: I was really hurt because I shot that ship. I was.
Speaker 1: I left there seven months pregnant. We worked in one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen degrees casually and right on location in
Speaker 1: Botswana for seven months. And yeah, three months the first time,
Speaker 1: four months the next time. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: I shot a show about Africa, you know, even though
Speaker 1: it's fictional.
Speaker 6: In Africa, and you lived it every birthday, and now
Speaker 6: you're playing them where they usually play us exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, if they get the opportunity, which is a real treasures.
Speaker 2: Take you to have that accent comfortably.
Speaker 1: We they I had was studying an hour day every
Speaker 1: day for two months, and then when I got there,
Speaker 1: it was all wrong. They gave me a zim accent
Speaker 1: and not a Mutsuana accent.
Speaker 2: Whoa. So I had to learn everything.
Speaker 1: Unlearned everything and relearn it real fast. And the Mutswana women,
Speaker 1: the elder women would sit around and if I got
Speaker 1: something wrong, they go ah, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: asked not the sound that I wanted to hear. I
Speaker 1: did not want to let them down in any way.
Speaker 1: And then when I got stuff right, you hear them go.
Speaker 8: My gay, you're.
Speaker 4: Live for my gall was what happened? What happened with
Speaker 4: the show? Why did they only do one passed away?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yes? He did, Yes he did. He was he was
Speaker 1: so brilliant, and I thought that he was a flirt.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on. He was so touchy,
Speaker 1: like stop touching me all the time. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I smacked him because I was like, it's too much.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing. And then his wife
Speaker 1: came and I had an opportunity to see them together,
Speaker 1: and I realized, oh my god, he's not flirting. He's Italian,
Speaker 1: he's just he's just he's just loving and a Italian.
Speaker 1: And then after that our relationship just you know, flew.
Speaker 1: You know, he was brilliant, and it was Sidney Pollack
Speaker 1: who was the executive producer, and Harvey Weinstein was tada. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Sydney passed away first and then Anthony passed soon after.
Speaker 1: You know, I tried to get the show to continue,
Speaker 1: but nobody was really interested. I don't know. I thought
Speaker 1: it was because the show was too positive. You know,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a bunch of disease and murder and you know,
Speaker 1: war and aids. You know, it's just people being people
Speaker 1: in Africa, you know what I'm saying. Like it was destruction,
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough death in destruction. So you know, this
Speaker 1: sweethearted show couldn't continue.
Speaker 2: Are there any ideas that you would like to develop.
Speaker 1: For Oh, yeah, there's one like no, but I've had
Speaker 1: my finger on one for quite some time after a
Speaker 1: few times trying to get somebody to pick it up.
Speaker 1: But it looks like I'm going to have to make
Speaker 1: a phone call to YOA and I'm I'm working on
Speaker 1: it now and I'm it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: With all my heart. It's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: Wonderful story. How is it?
Speaker 5: What was involved me?
Speaker 1: She just told me it's involving you because I'm going
Speaker 1: to call you and ask you for some money. I'm
Speaker 1: also going to call you and ask you for some insight.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know, some trust for money or something.
Speaker 2: Seeing with you right now? Trust money. She wouldn't be.
Speaker 5: At least not as.
Speaker 4: It'd be a special guests episode, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is a very special project, and I know that
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to put in a lot of guts,
Speaker 1: a lot of guts.
Speaker 5: Is ready?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it TV? Is it movie?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What what kind of project?
Speaker 1: It's a film film?
Speaker 5: Yeah, A mer is ready. He's he's receiving well these days.
Speaker 5: Look at them.
Speaker 3: He owes you for keeping you in Paris in the
Speaker 3: hotel he left.
Speaker 4: You're standing in a halfway house. They was at them,
Speaker 4: They was at the rich call and they had you
Speaker 4: in the loking to and ship.
Speaker 5: And you know, for a year after that, he was like,
Speaker 5: what happened?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, Gosh, I was so scared.
Speaker 1: I was so scared.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh they fight.
Speaker 2: Over what did crush you?
Speaker 1: It all works out, It really does.
Speaker 2: One thing. One thing I always wanted to ask you.
Speaker 4: Some of my favorite songs of yours are always just
Speaker 4: your short kind of interlude songs like Crown Royal and
Speaker 4: Hear My Hear My Call.
Speaker 2: I think that's right.
Speaker 4: I just those are just gorgeous fucking songs like what's
Speaker 4: your thought process and just making them short versus like
Speaker 4: full you know, I guess, verse, chorus, bridge, whatever kind
Speaker 4: of songs.
Speaker 1: I think when it's done, it's done. I just I
Speaker 1: just feel that way, like, when it's done, it's done.
Speaker 1: Keep I could, you know, keep forcing the issue. But
Speaker 1: you know, when you bust the nuts, you did it,
Speaker 1: you know necessary, you don't necessarily have to do back
Speaker 1: for it should be like that's what it was?
Speaker 2: Is it all right? Can I ask for hear My Call? Specifically?
Speaker 1: Is yeah, that was you? That was your idea?
Speaker 5: Oh he was startupocratic go I get it?
Speaker 2: No, not even is it still draining and emotional for
Speaker 2: you to sing it?
Speaker 3: Or do you have a she's out of my life
Speaker 3: relationship with it now where it's like you can phone
Speaker 3: it in if you want to like what if there's
Speaker 3: a night where you're just not in the mood to
Speaker 3: rock that song, but you know that there's expectations to
Speaker 3: or I've just never seen a song in which people
Speaker 3: are boohoo crying anytime. And I've seen you probably like
Speaker 3: seven times in concert, yeah, and mostly in the back row.
Speaker 3: Now because I'm sorry about that. Somehow they placed me
Speaker 3: like dead row, front row center, like Jill's first Philly
Speaker 3: show's horrible.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. See No, I'm just saying I won't do
Speaker 1: that to you. I'll try to make sure that they
Speaker 1: don't do that for it.
Speaker 3: No, No, I went to the back road because it
Speaker 3: was like, you don't.
Speaker 1: Want to be in the front row.
Speaker 3: I was in the front road, dead center, in front
Speaker 3: of you, and I was like, oh god, why am I?
Speaker 3: My point is, you're the reason why you're such an
Speaker 3: amazing performer is because it's it's it's heartfelt, and it's
Speaker 3: believable and it's authentic. That song, in particular, breaks people's
Speaker 3: hearts so much every time they hear it. Are there
Speaker 3: times where you're just like, Nope, no more, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing this anymore, like smells like teen Spirit.
Speaker 1: They well, the audiences in Europe, they typically won't leave
Speaker 1: until I see it. They will not leave no matter
Speaker 1: what I say, no matter how many lights come on.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for it. And I saw ridiculous. I could
Speaker 1: barely finish. Or damn it, you know, I those are
Speaker 1: the town Why did you? Why did you write that?
Speaker 1: Why did you say that? Why damn it? And then
Speaker 1: record it and have the audacity to put it on
Speaker 1: a project so other people can hear it. But I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the work.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: You want people to smile randomly or you know, flirt
Speaker 1: or be or feel in love, feel it, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you need to to mourn something, there should
Speaker 1: be music for that too. There's music for cooking, there's
Speaker 1: music for cleaning. You know, there's there's all this good music.
Speaker 1: Luckily for us. You know, humanity and music we're so connected.
Speaker 1: And I struggle with that. You know, I typically sotob
Speaker 1: myself and then you know, it's a whole audience full
Speaker 1: of teers and it just is what it is. And
Speaker 1: you know that means there's hugs to be given because
Speaker 1: I need to feel better and so to you. So
Speaker 1: you know, I typically come out and then you know,
Speaker 1: before COVID. You know, we hell each other. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not my favorite to do the sad songs,
Speaker 1: but I'm here for it, and apparently audience for too.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I think it's well written. I have to give myself
Speaker 1: some credit on that. I think that my pen definitely
Speaker 1: poured out my heart at that time.
Speaker 5: Can you sing your songs, Jill?
Speaker 1: You think I can't sing everybody songs? No, I mean
Speaker 1: a song written by someone else. Yeah, I can sing
Speaker 1: a song written by somebody else for me.
Speaker 4: If it's for you, it's got yeah. Okay, Okay, I
Speaker 4: have a question. Okay, first, let me give your flowers
Speaker 4: for Rolling Hills. I love that song to I hope
Speaker 4: that's one. Maybe it'll be one of the ones for
Speaker 4: versus you know, well, we'll see. But I love I
Speaker 4: love that fucking song.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to choose because they're, you know, they're
Speaker 1: asking me for twenty of my favorite songs, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: my my favorites are kind of obscure, like I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm going on the danger zone, the danger zone, just
Speaker 6: the danger zone. When when the artist picks out all
Speaker 6: these songs and don't realize that these have nothing to
Speaker 6: do with people.
Speaker 2: Love but the people, and then you.
Speaker 1: Realize that for the record label, you go, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have one of those.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying what you're thinking and not Oh.
Speaker 1: My masters are masters?
Speaker 2: Yes, your masters? Wow? Dope, Yes, okay, amazing.
Speaker 4: Other question I had so hate on me? Yeah that
Speaker 4: song about.
Speaker 5: Yeah forgot Yes.
Speaker 2: Shut up, we have a conversation.
Speaker 3: Not at all the turmoil and danger I've brought to
Speaker 3: your life.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm sorry, it's not true. It's not true at all.
Speaker 2: That was Thompson.
Speaker 1: That would be hilarious.
Speaker 5: It wanted to be such a mild, like no seating version.
Speaker 1: That would be hilarious, surviving Beard Toms.
Speaker 5: Just I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: God, Just what was her guitar player's name? We're in
Speaker 1: the hell.
Speaker 2: That was Dan was the guitar player.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're telling me she married Dan.
Speaker 3: She's just not married Dan. Somebody I believe you right
Speaker 3: now is in uh Brighton, Brighton, England. Last time I
Speaker 3: spoke to her, she was is dating.
Speaker 2: All right? Who's singing that duet with Nana Cherry seven seconds? Uh?
Speaker 2: The African singer?
Speaker 3: Yes, like Nana Cherry's last big hit in like nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety eight. Uh uh yols door, Oh that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to endure. That was your caricature moment.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you're speaking of tugs. That was amazing,
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was used to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was dating him. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like the last I heard, she was doing something with Spike,
Speaker 3: maybe a commercial with Spike.
Speaker 1: But I don't care who she's dating.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard from i'n't heard from news probably since
Speaker 3: Rich died. No, that's the last time I talked to her.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, what's the black Lily?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 1: He loved her?
Speaker 5: You know we need one.
Speaker 6: That was a great experience. Black Lily was awesome. Why
Speaker 6: do you say we could.
Speaker 1: Use black Lily? Just you just need to sign and
Speaker 1: says all egos at the door, All egos at the door,
Speaker 1: same everything and all egos yeah door, it'd be great, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I know, I fucking Tracy knew, I
Speaker 3: mean Tracy Mercedes, like I see him all the time,
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 1: It can happen. It's just so great.
Speaker 2: There's some Lily that.
Speaker 6: Oh you know they might wrap not saying, okay, all right,
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'll just be throwing names out there.
Speaker 5: I'm a slop. Yeah, okay, Jasmine down though, I don't know, so.
Speaker 3: We good.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about Black Lily.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Jasmine is
Speaker 6: Black Lily Asian forteen. That's Black Lily.
Speaker 1: Agent performed the Black Lie. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well you know then they yeah, they they would have ones.
Speaker 5: They really.
Speaker 3: As like by the time the first draft of Black
Speaker 3: Lily went on to like get record deals and stuff,
Speaker 3: they were like the they were like it was like
Speaker 3: toy story. They were the broken toys left behind and
Speaker 3: they all grouped up super powered and then became.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, what the happened? Like they
Speaker 2: started kicking our ass.
Speaker 5: They were who you look forward to singing every week
Speaker 5: and next thing you know.
Speaker 1: You're amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just pick up the kindred the family.
Speaker 1: So they're amazing. So we were. And they went to
Speaker 1: Hidden Beach.
Speaker 2: They did they.
Speaker 3: Forgot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what happened with Hitten Beach from your perspective,
Speaker 4: because just from a consumer side, they had you and
Speaker 4: like we were like, yes, Jill, like that was it
Speaker 4: was all Jojo Jail.
Speaker 2: Then they did the it was Brenda Russell they did.
Speaker 4: That, they did, Yeah, it was a Paris range and
Speaker 4: then unroped Value one through eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like, what was your experience with them?
Speaker 4: How that relationship I guess kind of deteriorated on your side,
Speaker 4: it did.
Speaker 1: I thought that they had some really good artists on
Speaker 1: their Hidden Kendred being one of them. They you know,
Speaker 1: that's Kendred, and they're so talented and the songwriting is
Speaker 1: so good and their stage performance is so amazing. You
Speaker 1: need to put more money into Kendred. But I didn't
Speaker 1: have a say in what Hidden Beach did because they're
Speaker 1: the label. I'm not the label, and I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that, and that didn't feel good to
Speaker 1: me that I couldn't be of service in that way.
Speaker 1: You know. I watched them sign a lot of artists
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are you doing? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? And I thought I thought that we had
Speaker 1: a friendship. I thought that we had this this family
Speaker 1: thing that was happening. So when I realized it was
Speaker 1: just business, you know, I was really disappointed. And then
Speaker 1: President Obama was I was working on being in office
Speaker 1: and everything was about the election, and they weren't being supportive,
Speaker 1: and I didn't feel like they were helping me at all.
Speaker 1: With radio. I didn't realize until later on how much
Speaker 1: everything that occurred had to do with my effort. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming up with the album, I'm working
Speaker 1: out the images, I'm you know, handing out flyers, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I did a lot coming up with every idea.
Speaker 1: I designed the videos. The first, you know, three videos,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm dism what I do. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Can somebody else, you know, like I can't do it all?
Speaker 1: And then you know, go to these I had pneumonia
Speaker 1: I think like three times in two years because I
Speaker 1: toured that first two year years without balance. That's one
Speaker 1: of the things with young artists. I'm like, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: go out there and do the hustle, but you have
Speaker 1: to have a balance or you will lose your mind
Speaker 1: and you will lose your health. And the goal is longevity.
Speaker 1: It's Frankie Beverly, that Middler longevity out here, and that's
Speaker 1: what I ready, that's what I'm saying, that's what I want,
Speaker 1: That's what I want. And I thought I was killing
Speaker 1: myself trying to, you know, make it work for the label.
Speaker 1: And I was like, ah, so I left, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think the last number was like they tried to
Speaker 1: see me for like nineteen million?
Speaker 2: What under on what grounds that I left?
Speaker 1: That I was leaving? And I had a couple of
Speaker 1: records too left on that Yeah, and yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like family, huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I saw Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, ni, let's
Speaker 2: talk about it. Okay. So that ship they put out,
Speaker 2: the Jill Scott when.
Speaker 5: They started putting out the duets.
Speaker 4: And ship, yea, yeah, like what was I mean that
Speaker 4: felt kind of just as a fan, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: this feel a little shady. But what was the story
Speaker 4: behind it? The albums that they put out, the Hidden
Speaker 4: Beach records that they put out.
Speaker 1: It certainly didn't feel good to me. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: like I had any thing to say, you know, I
Speaker 1: had no say so in them, you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: moving on.
Speaker 6: So technically I'm just saying I just want to know
Speaker 6: I'm doing this right. So technically, if I'm a real
Speaker 6: Joe Scott fan, I buy up into the live album
Speaker 6: and then the rest of the.
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, okay, more Okay, I like this son anyway.
Speaker 4: I like, like, yeah, Joe Hudson, that's my nigga, Like
Speaker 4: he's fucking dope of that record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you're talking about Crown Royal, Crown Royal Imagination.
Speaker 1: I love that song and the song I did with
Speaker 1: George Benson. Whenever you're around. I love that song. Like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need somebody to call me because I just
Speaker 1: love what I love.
Speaker 5: I can help you.
Speaker 2: I can help you now, I do. I do. This
Speaker 2: is what I do. I mean, it's just battle rap,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: So what about the four Hero song? You' all think
Speaker 5: she should include that in there? Because I do.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 4: I was about to ask you about that because Mark
Speaker 4: Mack that's my nigga.
Speaker 2: But I love that song. I love that song.
Speaker 4: Man. I think that the way you plan your verses is,
Speaker 4: first off, you gotta think of what the other artist's
Speaker 4: biggest songs are and think count that way what you're
Speaker 4: gonna counter it with. Yeah, that's how you Okay, So y'all,
Speaker 4: if you already know her Haymakers, if you already know
Speaker 4: her Haymakers, then you know then what is what I
Speaker 4: can do? And you got to think of your songs
Speaker 4: that you can use to Haymaker to get her to
Speaker 4: drop some bullshit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But you got to understand that I'm thinking about the
Speaker 1: my audience, like my the people that come to my shows,
Speaker 1: like they they know ship, they know shit and can't
Speaker 1: wait for that moment.
Speaker 4: But you but this though, I say, you can't think
Speaker 4: about your audience. You kind of gotta almost think of
Speaker 4: the demographic that's gonna be on I g Live and
Speaker 4: it may or may not be the same people. So
Speaker 4: it's like you gotta think about it from the standpoint
Speaker 4: of like all right, because I was talking about this
Speaker 4: on Twitter the other day, it's like who picking a winner?
Speaker 4: And I put that in very loose quotation marks because
Speaker 4: I mean, we love both of y'all, and so there's.
Speaker 1: No thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, no one loses.
Speaker 4: I mean this is a celebration, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's for the culture word.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know what.
Speaker 1: I love the way the Riza and DJ Premier did theirs.
Speaker 6: I think that's my favorite one, being Teddy Riley at jail.
Speaker 6: Right now, it's all about me, And so what I
Speaker 6: want to say to Jill because I don't know if
Speaker 6: she's aware. But you do know that Erica is up
Speaker 6: on her Techi ship right now, right like she's got
Speaker 6: her own streaming service.
Speaker 5: She's performing in bubbles and ship like that.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait, like the energy you're bringing right now
Speaker 3: is like instigating.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, this is fuck. I love
Speaker 5: both of them. I love both of me. I mean,
Speaker 5: Jill's my sister, but I love both of the music. Whatever.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is that I just want her to
Speaker 6: understand who she's playing against, because I don't know if
Speaker 6: she's been, you know, paying attention, she's been in her
Speaker 6: COVID world. So I'm just saying that Erica is gonna
Speaker 6: come with technology. And do you think, Amir Fonte, Bill
Speaker 6: Steve that Jill should fight back with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, all you have to do is, Jill, listen.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about versus. All right, here's the mentality
Speaker 4: of versus. And it's all right, yeah, here's here's our
Speaker 4: unsolicited corner, your corner.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 4: You need to Okay, so listen, here's the thing. The
Speaker 4: thing that makes versus work. Versus is all about Yo.
Speaker 4: These rich niggas are stuck in their crib looking at
Speaker 4: their phone, just like us.
Speaker 2: That's what makes it work, like, that's the draw. The
Speaker 2: draw is.
Speaker 4: We're looking at celebrities and people who have done all
Speaker 4: these great things. They're stuck inside their homes and this
Speaker 4: is entertainment for us just as it is for them.
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking famous. I'm just I'm regular.
Speaker 4: But anyway, So so that's the thing, So hold on, well.
Speaker 2: I certainly will.
Speaker 4: So the thing is you can take it to your car,
Speaker 4: like you can play records in your car if you
Speaker 4: want to. Anything that makes it look more intimate and
Speaker 4: makes it feel more like the audience.
Speaker 2: Is like us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, on the mountaintop.
Speaker 2: So it in your kitchen, and.
Speaker 4: That ship is gonna be like, Nigga, why are you
Speaker 4: in the bubble on the mountaintop?
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: I have another thing that add to it, sensing you
Speaker 3: might need a quasi haymaker that isn't below the belt,
Speaker 3: I would actually have.
Speaker 2: This is bad. I say.
Speaker 3: That when she hits you, I think, when she hits you,
Speaker 3: she has three haymakers.
Speaker 2: Tyrone's one of them. I feel like one is one
Speaker 2: of them. On the other side of the game.
Speaker 4: Now, okay, I would say, I don't think the other side.
Speaker 4: I think the other side is one I would say
Speaker 4: more so next lifetime like that.
Speaker 3: So my thing is when she hits with Tyrone, whatever
Speaker 3: you play next, I wish you had a TV track
Speaker 3: version of it, and you say it live here.
Speaker 5: You go too much.
Speaker 3: Technical elements, she writes, you're doing too much.
Speaker 5: Paper Bill said it, paper doing.
Speaker 2: You're doing too much. People just want to see you
Speaker 2: drop the jams. They want to see you drop the jam.
Speaker 6: I will say, if you pick up your judget teddy
Speaker 6: roddy guitar.
Speaker 5: Just start saying things with your voice outside of adding
Speaker 5: technical things. Because yeah, but you will, Jill, that's a
Speaker 5: fucking haymaker. Your voice is.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but that's the thing live.
Speaker 3: If she just whatever device, if there's Fender Road, if
Speaker 3: there's a Fender off Fender Road's version of He Loves Me.
Speaker 2: And she does that ship live, okay, I will throw
Speaker 2: my phone.
Speaker 4: No, because that's the thing, like, because when I was
Speaker 4: doing I've kind of been doing like cards for all
Speaker 4: these battles. The thing with Erica, Okay, Erica has to
Speaker 4: survive Jill's first If She's survived Jill's first album and Golden,
Speaker 4: she might have a chance. The only problem is that, Jill,
Speaker 4: your first album, and I said this on Twitter, your
Speaker 4: first album is.
Speaker 2: A fucking mind feel. Anything you can drop, You can
Speaker 2: drop something off that ship.
Speaker 3: She can drop the entire album, like strategically, you can
Speaker 3: drop honey molasses and just be like, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, like for real, for real, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: So the thing is like the big ones you would
Speaker 4: have to worry about Erica, Yeah, mirrors right, Tyrone is
Speaker 4: her haymaker, h Tyro. I think Tyrone will be that
Speaker 4: on and on next slight Time and Baduism as much
Speaker 4: as Baduism is a classic and I love it and
Speaker 4: I still you know, Baduism is very top heavy.
Speaker 2: All the smoke is on Satday like side B is.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing bad on.
Speaker 4: It and it's remember no Nigga, That's where all the
Speaker 4: smoke is.
Speaker 2: That's where the smoke at. But who is Jill Scott
Speaker 2: like nigga? That album?
Speaker 4: Nigga from one to god damn slowly, surely it ain't
Speaker 4: not one miss on that whole so.
Speaker 2: She got damn.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you just what are the outside of
Speaker 6: album cuts that Jill should be including in the burs okay,
Speaker 6: this d this day it nah.
Speaker 4: Dream No, don't dream because because that because to the audience,
Speaker 4: one that wasn't like it wasn't a big record. Like
Speaker 4: so it's like this, you got jams. I'm listening the best,
Speaker 4: the work.
Speaker 1: Best to stay out of all of this, and but.
Speaker 5: You're in it now, so.
Speaker 4: You're not jam all right, listen, you better hit them niggas.
Speaker 4: That got them crying, roy because because thing is here
Speaker 4: my hear my call?
Speaker 2: That could be a haymaker for you.
Speaker 4: Like I think if we're talking haymakers like Golden, I
Speaker 4: think it's probably like the haymaker, like you ain't getting
Speaker 4: up from that whenever you drop that, because that's just
Speaker 4: that was a monster. But don't waste Golden, don't know,
Speaker 4: don't waste it. No, no, no, So you gotta go
Speaker 4: hear my call. You got Crown Royal, you got rolling heels,
Speaker 4: you got damn. What's on the second album Golden? I like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: but it's another what's the one? I like Spring Summer Feeling.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I.
Speaker 2: Would you I like that one? Whenever?
Speaker 5: Yeah, what.
Speaker 2: My love is sweeter?
Speaker 4: They're tighter like yeah, nigga, yeah you got that.
Speaker 5: Better at Home, don't sleep on Better at Home.
Speaker 2: I didn't like that.
Speaker 4: I love that terrible uh sweet yeah sweet summer feelings
Speaker 4: about your music right now?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Oh God? Really so that.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, here's the breakdown, and you can just
Speaker 4: use this information however you want. This is the thing
Speaker 4: with between like with Erica and Jail Battle. So like
Speaker 4: Erica is more so like your your career, Jill, you've
Speaker 4: kind of leaned more into like the adult like contemporary
Speaker 4: what would be like urban ac kind of lane Erica's
Speaker 4: records over the last couple of years, her last few records,
Speaker 4: she's kind of going deeper, more just in the hip
Speaker 4: hop and kind of being I think a little more experimental.
Speaker 4: But the thing with that is it just kind of
Speaker 4: depends on demographics. So to the contingent of people that
Speaker 4: I refer to as the Ascot Battalion Acas. The last
Speaker 4: two albums, Yeah, the rolland Mard like them, the Boulet Niggas,
Speaker 4: Erica's last two records didn't really connect with them.
Speaker 2: They don't know like.
Speaker 4: New America, them niggas lost video they know just but
Speaker 4: that's it.
Speaker 2: But that's it.
Speaker 1: There of people in the world. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: people listening period. You don't know who's WHATSS.
Speaker 4: But for versus, that's the thing, right, it's the it's
Speaker 4: one thing if we're fighting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I say, Jill Niggas sorry and Bill even Steve
Speaker 6: doesn't make an attempt.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's our unsolicited advice.
Speaker 2: Yea, we will give it. Erica the same advice, just
Speaker 2: to be equal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you like your catalog you got, I think
Speaker 4: you have more in the tank than she is. And
Speaker 4: if you can get her to play her big cards early,
Speaker 4: I think you're just gonna win just off being able
Speaker 4: to go the distance alone.
Speaker 2: I think Erica would.
Speaker 3: Actually try to play her eccentric cards. I don't think
Speaker 3: she'll play the obvious cards. I bet you on and
Speaker 3: on won't even come until.
Speaker 4: Like Layton Layton, Yeah, that would be smart. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, but but then, but what she gonna play
Speaker 4: before that? I mean, like she's gonna play Gone Baby
Speaker 4: Don't Belong, which I love that song.
Speaker 2: But I mean you're you're about.
Speaker 1: You're talking about one of my favorite artists.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you'll back.
Speaker 1: It appears to be the case.
Speaker 5: Where's the north.
Speaker 2: A rights? This is the right attitude, don't. We don't
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 3: We don't even want to imply that we're leaning one
Speaker 3: way or the other.
Speaker 2: No, it's not a cat fight. I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I want to be an equal playing field, is all
Speaker 5: I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm It's gonna be a great We're here
Speaker 4: to celebrate both of y'all.
Speaker 5: If you start to singing live and ship is a win.
Speaker 3: I'm just going.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you know me, I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: organic about all the stuff that I do, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I want to be honest, and
Speaker 1: if it comes to that and I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like singing, then that's what's gonna happen. Yes, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: I feel.
Speaker 3: Ever, you know, really be dirty, you know, really you.
Speaker 2: Know you're singing Erica's song? Go Erica song was on?
Speaker 2: Which one? I mean, I'm trying today. What you think
Speaker 2: Erica would ever play the next lifetime?
Speaker 1: She wouldn't.
Speaker 2: If she's smart, she will better.
Speaker 1: Play that ship.
Speaker 2: Certainly, certainly, Oh you think Jill singing certainly?
Speaker 6: Because that ain't technically so you could certainly it's not
Speaker 6: her song, not just certainly, Oh, now, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: Don't think I'm in the house with with with beams.
Speaker 5: And saying when you said you made that suggestion, did
Speaker 5: she look.
Speaker 1: At you crazy? Y'all living for a war. She's looking
Speaker 1: for a celebration, celebration.
Speaker 2: I want to be clear, it is a celebration. We're celebrating.
Speaker 1: A war.
Speaker 3: I know you.
Speaker 5: You're hugging the tree right exactly, You're hugging the tree
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 2: Trees.
Speaker 4: You need help putting your playlist together, Jill, hit me up.
Speaker 4: I will gladly curate help you whatever, like, just as
Speaker 4: because because we all need it, like as a fan,
Speaker 4: as an artist, like we have our favorites. But then
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, what resonated with the people, and sometimes
Speaker 4: that may not be the same thing. So if you
Speaker 4: just need an outside perspective, I gladly offer my services.
Speaker 1: As I know that you'all are friends and sisters and whatnot,
Speaker 1: but I don't mean that in this battle we got
Speaker 1: to be like, sister, I.
Speaker 6: Love you, I love you to girl, I love you girl.
Speaker 6: I look, oh my god, please don't love me to.
Speaker 2: Call it a battle.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: We just want one round of mutual respect.
Speaker 5: Baby face, Jill, baby.
Speaker 2: Face, baby baby face. So he's shady face. He had
Speaker 2: all the shade, all right. So that's that's it for
Speaker 2: our unsolicited advice.
Speaker 3: Yes, thanks, and we only do because we love you
Speaker 3: and we don't.
Speaker 5: It's not a shadow in a post game.
Speaker 2: It's a clebration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, one one, one round of mutual respect
Speaker 1: and then war.
Speaker 3: You know, make sure make sure no one has their
Speaker 3: phones on using your Wi Fi when you do this.
Speaker 3: Make sure everyone goes into airport mode so that you're
Speaker 3: the only person using.
Speaker 6: What about that that SoundBite of the black party when
Speaker 6: it goes Jill, are you.
Speaker 5: Saying candy to say I was joking?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: All right, Jesus Christ, all right, Jill, No, I Jill.
Speaker 3: I'm glad we have you know what you know, what
Speaker 3: is weird? I wish you did have a new album
Speaker 3: coming out twenty years later called.
Speaker 2: I Am Jill Scott.
Speaker 5: That's a good idea.
Speaker 3: I can't say enough how much you've literally changed my life.
Speaker 3: And that was your first attempt. I'm never going to
Speaker 3: get over that. Like I have a whole respect I
Speaker 3: just oh, I just the fact is I need you.
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember the second songs.
Speaker 4: That The fact is I need you because you said
Speaker 4: staying probably your thing, nigga.
Speaker 2: You start with that over that was that's that's that
Speaker 2: was a hard hitting hole right there, Carl.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a baby, now what you was
Speaker 1: doing things and make them.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: The one in Paris is my favorite. Live in Paris,
Speaker 1: in Paris, that's my favorite. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love I wanted. I wanted to go to Paris
Speaker 1: so bad. I had a residency there and at the
Speaker 1: Australian Opera House. It was it was happening. I was
Speaker 1: so excited. Damn covid n what you.
Speaker 5: Was going to do? What about movies?
Speaker 1: Jill?
Speaker 5: Were you gonna you was.
Speaker 1: In the process of I mean, there's a there was
Speaker 1: plenty of things. This was a this was a good
Speaker 1: working year. We'll see what we'll see what happens later.
Speaker 3: But you know, on the other side of that coin,
Speaker 3: this is there a refreshment. You know, there's a chance
Speaker 3: to refresh and and get our creativity back and and
Speaker 3: and rest.
Speaker 2: It's a deg reset man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to ask you your We didn't talk
Speaker 4: about your role in the James raw movie, Get On Up?
Speaker 1: M What about it?
Speaker 2: Was it a positive experience?
Speaker 4: Was it in terms of your growth as an actress?
Speaker 4: Like did you feel that it was something that you,
Speaker 4: you know, you had to rise to the challenge or
Speaker 4: did it kind of feel like.
Speaker 2: Hands on you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like that was.
Speaker 1: You didn't see it though, Wow, I didn't see he
Speaker 1: didn't actually touch you. Didn't see him touch me. I
Speaker 1: just made you think he did. But damn that that
Speaker 1: that movie actually is. I'm just the one I wish
Speaker 1: I could do over. I wish I could do that
Speaker 1: one over.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I learned after what I should have done, and
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed by that.
Speaker 2: What do you think you did wrong?
Speaker 1: I should have punched him in his mouth. I should
Speaker 1: have fought him. I should have fast him.
Speaker 5: Is that what she did?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Damn I went with I went with what was
Speaker 1: written and instead I should have I should have fought him.
Speaker 1: And I'm disappointed, Like, I really wish I could go
Speaker 1: back to do that over. So I learned again about
Speaker 1: homework and how important it is to do the homework.
Speaker 1: You know, so even if nobody else understands it, well,
Speaker 1: you want everybody to understand it, but you have to
Speaker 1: be be that guy. If that's the generals, be that guy.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was that guy as much as
Speaker 1: I would want to be. So that's the only role
Speaker 1: I've had started like disappoints me.
Speaker 4: Did you think that not hitting him? Do you think
Speaker 4: that made the character look weaker?
Speaker 2: Or like? What was your reason behind it?
Speaker 1: I thought that she was so in love with him.
Speaker 1: In fact, Dedie Brown is still in love with James
Speaker 1: Brown today. She was so overwhelmingly in love with him that,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the part that I highlighted. She was
Speaker 1: just almost obsessed with him. But she did have some
Speaker 1: spunk and some fighting her And I wish he had
Speaker 1: punched him in the mouth. I wish I had allowed her,
Speaker 1: you know, in the film the punishment mouth. He deserved
Speaker 1: it and it would have represented her a little better
Speaker 1: than than what I did.
Speaker 3: So so you talked and interviewed with her and got
Speaker 3: to know her as to develop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, beforehand and.
Speaker 2: Encouragement of the director and the.
Speaker 1: Production that was that was on my own. I there
Speaker 1: was a young man working on set. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what he did, but he told me that that was
Speaker 1: his grandmother, and I was like, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: get me in touch with your grandma, you know, because
Speaker 1: they were on the newlywat game together, so I got
Speaker 1: a chance to see her ways, but I didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to It's on it's online, it's on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Used to the seventies.
Speaker 1: They were real cute. They're real cute. They absolutely enjoyed
Speaker 1: each other. But they thought. They definitely thought. And he
Speaker 1: was whooping ass and I get I got it, like
Speaker 1: I got it. You could. I could see how someone
Speaker 1: could totally totally be like in love with this guy
Speaker 1: and enjoyably suppressed. He's powerful. He's powerful man. That ain't
Speaker 1: for me to back bush in your sleep.
Speaker 3: Any for you? Any thoughts of writing your memoir?
Speaker 1: I think about it often. I think people would be
Speaker 1: completely surprised of how I got here and how I
Speaker 1: am able to stay here. Yeah, I think about it often.
Speaker 1: There's a lot good.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like the journey is still happening for
Speaker 3: you to even start writing your memoir?
Speaker 7: If I just wrote the first fifteen years, if I
Speaker 7: remember being in the womb, If I could write I
Speaker 7: remember being in the womb, if I wrote the first
Speaker 7: fifteen years of this existence, it would be crazy.
Speaker 1: People would not believe any of it. It's half mythology
Speaker 1: and folklore with these brilliant sprinkles of simple It's crazy.
Speaker 1: My existence has been.
Speaker 2: You gotta do. You have to do it like James Taylor.
Speaker 3: James Taylor worked backwards, so he just released his life
Speaker 3: between birth and twenty one, like maybe two months ago,
Speaker 3: but you know, started with the end of his life.
Speaker 3: Once he like rehabbed himself and got his life together.
Speaker 3: Then the project before is like the hell he went
Speaker 3: through as James Taylor, and then the real hell he
Speaker 3: went through from childhood to twenty one that got him
Speaker 3: to be a heroin Addict and all that stuff. Like
Speaker 3: him telling the story backwards almost is cinematically maybe telling
Speaker 3: your story backwards in that way.
Speaker 1: From zero to twenty one or I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I am to the fragments because I think people
Speaker 3: feel like the need to release their entire life story
Speaker 3: in one.
Speaker 1: I could do it. I could do it like maun Jelo.
Speaker 2: Okay pieces pieces.
Speaker 1: I think some pieces at the time. It's funny we're
Speaker 1: having that conversation where we try to get like somebody's
Speaker 1: whole life story on like an hour and.
Speaker 3: Start so well, Jill I thank you, uh for doing this,
Speaker 3: and thank you for having me your artistry, and we
Speaker 3: don't even have to call it Jill anymore.
Speaker 2: For that's right.
Speaker 6: I still think she needs to do like a drunk Hollywood.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to say holiday episode or something like in person.
Speaker 6: I just a drunk holiday.
Speaker 2: We do oh man, Christmas, Jill Man, listen.
Speaker 4: I don't know about no more drunk, no more drunk.
Speaker 1: I don't want no more drunk other things, you know.
Speaker 5: Whatever, that's what we do too. We do that.
Speaker 6: Christmas upside down.
Speaker 4: I just for last music question. I know, Jill, okay,
Speaker 4: it's a shame record. The A Group, yes, is that
Speaker 4: you under? Or is that another group of singers?
Speaker 1: Aren't they amazing? Oh god, I can't remember everybody's name,
Speaker 1: it's been so long. I know one was Keisha ship.
Speaker 1: I feel bad. The A Group they were singers that
Speaker 1: sang together all the time and uh Keisha Renee and
Speaker 1: I heard them. I was like, would you mind playing
Speaker 1: with me? And they did? They were I just loved them.
Speaker 1: They were incredible. I can't leave. I've forgotten all of
Speaker 1: their names. It'll hit me later. And three three of them, yeah,
Speaker 1: they they just were amazing. They reminded me very much
Speaker 1: of the emotions. It's like, yes and Aretha Franklin's background singers,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: That they had that.
Speaker 1: Which I needed.
Speaker 6: Since spont circle back to shame, I just want to say,
Speaker 6: you and Eve, do y'all ever circle back and have
Speaker 6: these conversations of how y'all are so connected?
Speaker 5: Okay? I was just we did okay, okay, we did.
Speaker 1: We shot with this ring together with Regina Hall and
Speaker 1: Brooklyn south Dono, and we had a chance to just
Speaker 1: kick it on, you know, kick.
Speaker 5: It every day.
Speaker 1: So we talked about it how that song changed our
Speaker 1: lives and here we are these years.
Speaker 5: That's what I was inferring, but.
Speaker 1: Changes lives, that's what us. Look, that's what the roots do.
Speaker 1: I mean. Without your guidance, I mean.
Speaker 5: Stop stop, take this compliment, Take this compliment, Take this compliment.
Speaker 2: Put that.
Speaker 1: Without your guidance and your vision, you know, so many
Speaker 1: artists wouldn't have a career right now, and you picked
Speaker 1: artists that all have longevity and Josh, including yourself. Well,
Speaker 1: when she did the video that was just like a
Speaker 1: long walk. I was over her and.
Speaker 6: I was motherfucker. That was your one long mistake but
Speaker 6: that's okay because we forgive you for what you have.
Speaker 5: Guest blessed us.
Speaker 4: What was just just you know. Yeah, and Rafaela dec
Speaker 4: not for she did she did? She did a video
Speaker 4: biiting a long walk exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I was like.
Speaker 5: Shut up, the one that you playing in the drums
Speaker 5: in the video.
Speaker 3: That's because at the time, my girlfriend asked me to
Speaker 3: be in that video because she was the director.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know. You ain't a minute. She
Speaker 1: was the director on With This Ring.
Speaker 6: Wow, And she's the director on my new favorite show
Speaker 6: with Carrie Washington and Reese Brotherspoon.
Speaker 1: I'm watching that's watching it, but it's watching it is
Speaker 1: kind of both. I'm both of those. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like you're both of those women?
Speaker 6: And well, if I'm lucky enough to be reading, I
Speaker 6: definitely feel Carrie's pain.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I see you feel like I'm I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm both of them. And that's that's great, you know,
Speaker 1: just being able to relate. I can see them both ends.
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. I love that show.
Speaker 5: Don't funk with their kids either way, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
Speaker 4: All right, So for the fourth time, last question, last
Speaker 4: I have thank you, thank you, Jill, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first, I'm.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: It was it was Crow the day and wear my name.
Speaker 1: Bill paid Bill, Hi, I want to work together, get her,
Speaker 1: get her on Sesame Street.
Speaker 2: You haven't.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've done Sesame Street. She cried most of the time.
Speaker 1: Most of the time.
Speaker 2: So you worked with Bill, Okay, I wasn't there. This
Speaker 2: was before my time.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 4: The music director, you gotta get Jill back on, says
Speaker 4: the street to talk about being in the wound.
Speaker 2: I want to hear all about it.
Speaker 3: I said, if anything, if anything, she could probably do
Speaker 3: the We try to do a loaf of bread and
Speaker 3: a stick of butter with Solange and it didn't.
Speaker 2: Air at all, Bill, it did it did? Finally signed
Speaker 2: the release. Yeah somewhere Yeah. Oh, hold on, Okay, I
Speaker 2: gotta watch that Jo.
Speaker 5: She's not gonna do ship did she did with somebody else?
Speaker 5: She's gonta do our own s.
Speaker 3: Oh that song is a staple, A little for bread,
Speaker 3: contein of milk and a stick of butter. But at
Speaker 3: the time I thought I thought SOLANGEX needed So I.
Speaker 1: Loved my experience on Sesame Street. It was wonderful. By
Speaker 1: the time mister snuffle Up with Snuffle Up a Gus
Speaker 1: walked out, I just I could not stop crying. I
Speaker 1: was I couldn't stop crying. I was talking to.
Speaker 2: Like they were real.
Speaker 1: What's his name, Jesus, I'm terrible with names. Kevin. I
Speaker 1: was talking to Kevin, the guy who was playing Elmo. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was talking to the brother. We're just standing there wrapping.
Speaker 1: He put Almo on his hand. I forgot the man
Speaker 1: was there. Started hugging the man's hand in the puppet,
Speaker 1: talking only to the man who I forgot the man
Speaker 1: was there. That's how magical it was. Just like boy,
Speaker 1: it was great. I got in the I got in
Speaker 1: the nest, I got in the trash can, I worked
Speaker 1: in the store.
Speaker 5: I did it all.
Speaker 1: I hung out the window.
Speaker 5: I did it all.
Speaker 2: She survived Street are the fiftieth anniversary on HBO? Has it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sweet, okay, I gotta see it. You think you you
Speaker 2: think you'll get married? Against you?
Speaker 5: Oh ship?
Speaker 2: You think you will?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is she joining us Coto the compound ship?
Speaker 5: You can big.
Speaker 2: Amir Henrickson.
Speaker 4: That man living in the House of Reclaimed, would he
Speaker 4: living in his best life?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: I meant.
Speaker 2: Ladies, gentlemen, R and B.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill Dream and my third wife Jill Scott, Yes,
Speaker 3: not me.
Speaker 1: Hold on hold the second one, Grace, Oh who the
Speaker 1: first one?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you it goes off the air anyway.
Speaker 1: It's not so great. I'm your third wife.
Speaker 2: Oh it happens. Big love. Here we go. Living is
Speaker 2: big love, not question.
Speaker 3: Nice but thank you, thank you for doing the show
Speaker 3: on behalf of the entire team Supreme.
Speaker 2: We say thank you and we will see you on
Speaker 2: the next go radio and see you.
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