Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Vanessa Beyor and this is my brother Jonah.
Speaker 1: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood
Speaker 1: and nostalgia and how it shaped us into the people
Speaker 1: we are today, who are pretty full of Jois d
Speaker 1: viv If I do say so myself, Welcome to how
Speaker 1: did we get weird? You know? Jonah? I just received
Speaker 1: a text from my good friend Jenny bin Stock and
Speaker 1: she was at LACMA, this art museum here in l
Speaker 1: A and she saw this Picasso painting and she texted
Speaker 1: me a picture of it, and she was like, does
Speaker 1: Jonah know that he looks exactly like the person in
Speaker 1: this painting? And I said, he sure does. In fact,
Speaker 1: he's used this painting and versions of this painting as
Speaker 1: his profile pics on social media before. Jonah, do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? I do. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: found this painting a while ago, and I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: in the chats or our guests can see it as well.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a quite famous Picasso painting from
Speaker 1: his Blue period. This guy's name is Sebastia joyair Vidal.
Speaker 1: I'm probably mis pronouncing, but he's another painter who's friends
Speaker 1: with Picasso, and I guess Picasso painted him a lot,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of photos of him, and he
Speaker 1: has like the exact same mustache, is me, the same
Speaker 1: facial structure. It's very bizarre. There's one called portrait of
Speaker 1: Sebastia June or Vidal. We're probably really betraying the name
Speaker 1: and that one and he's sitting and it looks so
Speaker 1: much like you. And then you've shown me now like that.
Speaker 1: There's so many different there's a bunch of paintings, yeah,
Speaker 1: and sketches. You sent me a sketch of him as
Speaker 1: a matador. Yeah, there's one of the medal. You know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I feel like sometimes people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you look like this person, and it's just like another
Speaker 1: guy with a mustache that doesn't really look like me.
Speaker 1: We have the same kind of facial hair, but this
Speaker 1: guy really looks like me. He really does look like Yes,
Speaker 1: and you found a little bit of a SYNOPSI is
Speaker 1: of like this very famous painting from his Blue period
Speaker 1: called Portrait of this guy's named Sebastia Junior Vidal, and
Speaker 1: it says he's clearly identified in Pocassa's painting due to
Speaker 1: his distinguishing frizzy hair, large forehead, and mustache, and then
Speaker 1: it says more information about him and how he and
Speaker 1: Picassa became friends. But you texted me and said, hmmm,
Speaker 1: large forehead seems a bit rude, and I would agree, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really see the large forehead, yeah, personally, And
Speaker 1: I don't think you have a large forehead. Jonah. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so either, but maybe I'm just too
Speaker 1: close to it. But yeah, have you ever found anyone
Speaker 1: from historically you feel like has looked like you? Because
Speaker 1: most of the time when someone says someone looks like you,
Speaker 1: like a celebrity or something you're it's like, usually not flattering.
Speaker 1: I feel like, in my case, do you like I've
Speaker 1: gotten Paul Giamati before? That's not exactly right. Do you
Speaker 1: have any historical people you looked like? When I first
Speaker 1: got to college freshman year, so many people told me
Speaker 1: I look like Sigourney Weaver, interesting and I didn't quite
Speaker 1: know how. I think she's beautiful, but I don't really see.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you have curly hair, people kind
Speaker 1: of think you look like other people with curly hair.
Speaker 1: If you'll recall when I was little and I had short,
Speaker 1: curly hair. People would always say it looked like either
Speaker 1: Shirley Temple or or Finanni. And actually, facially, I don't
Speaker 1: think I really look like either of them, but I
Speaker 1: just had the same hair as that. So there you go.
Speaker 1: There it is, I said, there it is like, womp,
Speaker 1: there it is. Got it? Well, maybe our guests can
Speaker 1: kind of weigh on this as well. We're so excited
Speaker 1: to have today's guest. He's a writer and musician, best
Speaker 1: know as being the lead singer guitarist for Coheed and Cambria,
Speaker 1: also create the comic book series and Armory Wars and
Speaker 1: so much more. Let's give it up for Claudia Sanchez.
Speaker 1: Hey Claudia, how's it going? Hi? How are you? First
Speaker 1: of all, do you think I look like this Picasso character? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: because you're like, you're like a real artist too, So
Speaker 1: I'm curiously have you ever found, like any historical renderings
Speaker 1: of people that people are like, Oh, Claudia, this looks
Speaker 1: like you, because you have kind of a distinctive look
Speaker 1: as well. M you know, sure someone has said something
Speaker 1: in the past, but nothing, I can't really recall anything
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. I mean, yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're doing comics, do you like reference people you know
Speaker 1: in real life as far as like drawing characters, because
Speaker 1: that's sort of like making ore as well, kind of
Speaker 1: out of life. I guess absolutely. You know, this last
Speaker 1: book I'm actually releasing, it's called My Brother's Blood Machine,
Speaker 1: and it's a horror comic and it takes place in
Speaker 1: the sixties, And when communicating with Andrew Ritchie, the artist,
Speaker 1: I threw out the idea of musicians of the time
Speaker 1: sort of being the cast, you know, like whatever age
Speaker 1: like certain you know, certain characters or teenagers. So the
Speaker 1: teenage version of Joni Mitchell, the teenage version of Jim Morrison.
Speaker 1: And then there's another fella in it called Moses Early,
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, he's a much older Fellows,
Speaker 1: So what would have Jimmy Hendrix looked like had he
Speaker 1: been like seventy four years old or something like that.
Speaker 1: So in that particular instance, you know, that story, that
Speaker 1: was a big part of casting the characters. But you know,
Speaker 1: in the past, like I think of you know, this
Speaker 1: is a nostalgia podcast, right, So Coheed and Cambria, for example,
Speaker 1: when I first started creating that comic in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four. The references for those characters were Bow and
Speaker 1: Hope of Days of Our Lives and also of the
Speaker 1: Amityville Horror James Brolin and I forget the female I
Speaker 1: believe she the actress played Superman Lois Lane. So those
Speaker 1: were like my references because they reminded me of younger
Speaker 1: versions of my parents. You know, like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: when I see pictures of my parents getting married, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, as a kid watching Days of Our Lives,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh wow, Like they remind me of
Speaker 1: those are the characters that I'm gonna follow, you know,
Speaker 1: if I was home from school or something, you know,
Speaker 1: Bo and Hope, Oh they were my mom and dad,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff. Wow, did you watch
Speaker 1: any other soaps? I'm just curious that was the one
Speaker 1: I mean for you know, and just you know, when
Speaker 1: I was home from school, you know, I just remember,
Speaker 1: like you know, Sands through the Hourglass. So were the
Speaker 1: Days of Our Lives like that kind of stuff? Those
Speaker 1: sorts of things would get ingrained in my head, you know,
Speaker 1: watching a lot of TV, and what would you kind
Speaker 1: of like at that? Did you grow up in Nyak
Speaker 1: or where did you grow up? My young at like
Speaker 1: in the eighties, I lived in a town called Havistraw
Speaker 1: that was just north of Nyack, you know, and so
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, I my memories of of
Speaker 1: that of that time in my life were like, g
Speaker 1: I Joe figures. I remember stealing the snake Eyes on
Speaker 1: the playground. That was a big because it was hard
Speaker 1: to find snake eyes. You couldn't find snake eyes anywhere,
Speaker 1: so it was like, remember stealing snake Eyes and there
Speaker 1: I was a real asshole, um, but but I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way to get this character and it's sitting
Speaker 1: here in the dirt and no one's gonna claim it.
Speaker 1: I'm taking. But the other it was Nintendo. Like I
Speaker 1: remember like walking to school and by the way, like
Speaker 1: I think back now and I'm like, man, my parents
Speaker 1: shouldn't have let us walk walk to school alone because
Speaker 1: it was my brother and myself and I believe I
Speaker 1: was in third grade or second and he was in
Speaker 1: kindergarten and we were walking to school alone. But we
Speaker 1: would stop at a friend's house because he had just
Speaker 1: acquired a Nintendo and he had got the Deluxe system.
Speaker 1: So sorry if I'm rambling, I don't get to talk
Speaker 1: about this stuff often, just like this, what's all about.
Speaker 1: So he had just received the Deluxe Nintendo Entertainment System,
Speaker 1: which came with Rob and and gyro Mite. Are you
Speaker 1: guys familiar with that at all? No? I mean we
Speaker 1: had the classic kind of bundle with Mario Brothers, Duck
Speaker 1: Hunt and the Gun, so the Nintendo would not The
Speaker 1: advantage was the controller, so it was just okay, I
Speaker 1: got the action pack or something like that, but I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar with this version. This would have been a
Speaker 1: little more deluxe than than our style, right, So Deluxe
Speaker 1: came with Rob the robot, and Rob would participate in
Speaker 1: the game gyro Mites, So you were like this mad
Speaker 1: scientist that was running around this level, and once in
Speaker 1: a while, you'd come across a barrier that was either
Speaker 1: like red or blue, and Rob, registering it off of
Speaker 1: your television set, would know that and would grab like
Speaker 1: the red top because it was just like the spinning
Speaker 1: top basically, and he would drop it on like these
Speaker 1: red or blue buttons, and he would assist you through
Speaker 1: the game. And I just remember being like, wow, that's
Speaker 1: so fucking sick. Not saying that as a kid, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: those are the memories I have. Is like myself and
Speaker 1: my brother walking to school and stopping off at our
Speaker 1: friend's house. You know, in the morning. How long was
Speaker 1: the walk? How far was the walk to it was?
Speaker 1: You know, I just revisited the house. It was kind
Speaker 1: of long for our age. Yeah, I think about it,
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, you know what we did it
Speaker 1: My dad worked nights, so you know, it's just what we,
Speaker 1: I guess had to do. It wasn't far, like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was close enough that a bus wasn't appointed to
Speaker 1: our location. So you know, I think about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it's almost kind of the distance I
Speaker 1: would have walked if I had to for to high school,
Speaker 1: you know. So right, It's it interesting for you as
Speaker 1: a parent now to think about like telling your names,
Speaker 1: like I'll just go go walk like he walks nowhere alone.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. So just so I can be cleared,
Speaker 1: would you play video games in the morning on the
Speaker 1: way to school. Yeah, we'd stop off and we'd a
Speaker 1: was how much time are you leaving yourself because that
Speaker 1: seems like a dangerous thing. Well yeah, well we would
Speaker 1: get there, you know, so long as like our friend
Speaker 1: and his mother were cool with it. We would get
Speaker 1: there and we'd play for a little bit and then
Speaker 1: she would drive us to school. But if it wasn't
Speaker 1: the case, then we rum. But yeah, so we would
Speaker 1: walk across the field, which I think it was the
Speaker 1: middle school field that they had lived across the street from,
Speaker 1: and so we'd get there and we played for a
Speaker 1: little while. Like at the time, it was Gyra. Mike
Speaker 1: was the game. Kung Fu was the other one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he had Rygar and these were just like
Speaker 1: you know, at the time, right, Nintendo wasn't impossible to acquire.
Speaker 1: I think we had like an Intari, not even but
Speaker 1: like a fifty eight hundred. You know, it was just
Speaker 1: impossible to acquire a Nintendo in the fever of that
Speaker 1: thing at the time. It was like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you had a chance to play it, you did, you know,
Speaker 1: And that was our our opportunity to play it every day,
Speaker 1: I guess was stopping at his house. Yeah, we hit famously,
Speaker 1: and we talked about a lot in this podcast. Famously,
Speaker 1: we won a Nintendo at a raffle at our temple
Speaker 1: when we were kids, and our parents wouldn't bias one
Speaker 1: and we won it. And then we were like, we
Speaker 1: won this, can we have it? And they were sort
Speaker 1: of had to let us keep it. We got ten
Speaker 1: tickets for ten dollars and we want to Nintendo. A
Speaker 1: huge debate was deciding if you want to put it
Speaker 1: towards a Nintendo or the CD changer. There was a
Speaker 1: shuffler and I can't remember, but it was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, both of these things would be incredible. Where yea,
Speaker 1: what should we do? We only yeah, And just to
Speaker 1: kind of paint a little bit of a picture for you, Claudio,
Speaker 1: this is a poor um carnival. We were at our temple,
Speaker 1: so I think we're dressed up as Queen Esther Hayman.
Speaker 1: Who else are? Those are like the major players I
Speaker 1: can remember. I feel like there's someone that Queen Esther
Speaker 1: married who's like a good guy, right, and Hayman's the
Speaker 1: bad guy. I just remember those cookies well Human tash in,
Speaker 1: which are based on Hayman's three cornered hat, which is
Speaker 1: like how many corners do most hands? Really good point,
Speaker 1: not to take anything away from Hummon Tosh and go ahead, Jonah.
Speaker 1: So Claid, were you like when you were in high school?
Speaker 1: I think like most people would maybe assume you were
Speaker 1: really into like Rush or like a lot of progressive music,
Speaker 1: like as a kid, like were you into that stuff
Speaker 1: or or not? Really? What what? What kind of like
Speaker 1: music were you into kind of when you were like
Speaker 1: a teenager and you know, I was into like, you know, everything,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it wasn't much of a as far as
Speaker 1: progressive when I mean Jethro Tult because my father listened
Speaker 1: to it. But you know, growing up in high school,
Speaker 1: I mean grunge was like a thing that was happening. Metal,
Speaker 1: anything sort of contemporary rock I was pretty much into.
Speaker 1: But of course grew up with the stuff that my
Speaker 1: mom and dad listened to, which were extremely polar opposites
Speaker 1: where she was more of a into pop music and
Speaker 1: my dad was more into like blues and jazz and
Speaker 1: classic rock and Latin music. And but yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: until like until I went to see Pink Floyd in
Speaker 1: ninety four that I got I really sort of got
Speaker 1: into conceptual music. You know, that's like when it was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, like I you know, I think that was
Speaker 1: probably a bit of that moment in time may have
Speaker 1: had something to do with the New Last of like
Speaker 1: what I would do with my life? You know, what
Speaker 1: are some other kind of like we were talking the
Speaker 1: podcast recently with someone. I was talking about seeing Green
Speaker 1: Day and like the Dukey Tour ninety four, that being
Speaker 1: like that you saw that? Yeah, I mean where did
Speaker 1: you see that show? And I think Madison Square Garden
Speaker 1: got you? Yeah, I mean were there any other shows
Speaker 1: from that era that really like stand out to you?
Speaker 1: From like those kind of formative years, the Lollapalooza festivals,
Speaker 1: particularly when Rage Against the Machine opened the festival. I
Speaker 1: don't think ever in my life had I been a
Speaker 1: part of like an energy like that, you know, standing
Speaker 1: there waiting to see them, knowing that first record was out,
Speaker 1: the songs were the songs, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they hit the stage and like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it was Randall's Island they were they were playing at,
Speaker 1: and uh, the entire crowd like starts jumping like maniacally,
Speaker 1: and the dust starts getting kicked up, and I started
Speaker 1: to realize, oh shit, I might die in here. I
Speaker 1: gotta go. Yeah. Yeah, that kind of stuff. That was one.
Speaker 1: You know, Beasties at Madison Square Garden. You know, there's
Speaker 1: like a lot of a lot of stuff. It's like
Speaker 1: hard to remember Black Sabbath at at the Beacon Theater
Speaker 1: with Deo fronting them. Wow, So how would you get
Speaker 1: to these shows as a kid? Like, how would you
Speaker 1: get into the city? Right? Well, that show in particular,
Speaker 1: that was the first show I'd ever gone to. So
Speaker 1: my friend Patrick and I his mother actually Drew drove
Speaker 1: us in. You know, yeah, we were just about to
Speaker 1: get into high school. I think at that time, like
Speaker 1: Pink Floyd in we went with his sister. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember before that show. I remember like
Speaker 1: I hadn't listened to a Pink Floyd record ever, and
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, well, you know, well I hear that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you go to Pink Floyd so you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do acid. I'll you know, what, can we
Speaker 1: figure out how to get acid? I never did acid
Speaker 1: in my life. You know, I'm like, let's figure out
Speaker 1: how to get acid. I'll take two of them, you know.
Speaker 1: Thank god, I mean thank god my friend's sister had
Speaker 1: way more sense and got us nothing. Because you know,
Speaker 1: sitting there and watching that show was enough to be
Speaker 1: like inspiring and set my mind to drift. So who knows,
Speaker 1: I would probably not be here. Actually, well, it's interesting
Speaker 1: because like I was really into like punk, like Dead
Speaker 1: Kennedy's Black, like all that kind of stuff, and so
Speaker 1: I thought, like Pink Floyd, this is like for hippie,
Speaker 1: Like I was very close off as to what I
Speaker 1: would listen you really were, don't You couldn't bring up
Speaker 1: fish to Jonah or you would lit out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a lot of friends who liked fish, and I
Speaker 1: remember being like, sorry, guys, it sucks, like I remember
Speaker 1: just like taking on Jonah's like disdain for like I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting, yeah, at that age sometimes and
Speaker 1: it's like obviously claud a year sort of like, you know,
Speaker 1: our equal vision for a long time warped tour like
Speaker 1: part of that world. But it's interesting. It doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like you had the same maybe closed off view as
Speaker 1: maybe I did and maybe some other people did of
Speaker 1: that era. Yeah, you know, funny My introduction to punk
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting because the first band that I
Speaker 1: played in in high school and middle school, middle school,
Speaker 1: high school was like thirteen, fourteen years old. We would
Speaker 1: rehearse in the basement of a friend's house whose father
Speaker 1: was also a musician, but knew somebody that worked at
Speaker 1: the manufactur like the duplication plant of like Caroline Records.
Speaker 1: So this is how I kind of learned how to
Speaker 1: write songs. We would find copies of Legacy of Brutality
Speaker 1: on tape, naked Reagan, gay Bikers on acid, and like
Speaker 1: I would take these, I would take them home and
Speaker 1: not knowing the material, like started to understand song structure
Speaker 1: and then would I mean Legacy of Brutality. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was probably one of my favorite compilations of misfits
Speaker 1: songs because I learned so much from it, and so
Speaker 1: that was like kind of the beginning of my understanding
Speaker 1: of writing music. But that was my you know, introduction
Speaker 1: to punk music because it was like on the walls
Speaker 1: in the place we had rehearsed. I think because my
Speaker 1: parents were so very different in the stuff that they consumed.
Speaker 1: You know, my mom would like listen to Taylor Dane
Speaker 1: in the front seat and I'd hear singing like it,
Speaker 1: you know, and then I would like sing it in
Speaker 1: the front seat and Michael Jackson Madonna. Like some of
Speaker 1: my favorite moments are sitting in front of the TV
Speaker 1: watching like, you know, the beat it video or Madonna's
Speaker 1: material Girl. You know, those are the moments that I
Speaker 1: remember to me, like you know, and and I think
Speaker 1: being a part of that made me not necessarily want
Speaker 1: to be a singer, but it's in a weird way
Speaker 1: sort of trained me to kind of think maybe I
Speaker 1: had the confidence to be at one time, at some
Speaker 1: time in my life. Were you watching it with your mom? No,
Speaker 1: just probably watching it, yeah, But most of the time
Speaker 1: it was listening to the music in the car, driving
Speaker 1: with her, and then my dad's side was you know,
Speaker 1: it was like Hendricks and Staying, and you know, then
Speaker 1: it would get like Spyra Gyra and what's a bella
Speaker 1: fleck and the fleck tones and then you know, Ruben Blades.
Speaker 1: It was like all over the place. But like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs of all time is probably Englishman
Speaker 1: in New York by Staying, because he listened to it
Speaker 1: so much. Like my siblings and I like, whenever that
Speaker 1: song comes on, it's a teleporter. It brings us right
Speaker 1: back to like our father in the in the car,
Speaker 1: you know, that's how I feel with our dad about
Speaker 1: AM sports radio. And he used to call in a
Speaker 1: lot to call in and get on the show because
Speaker 1: he kind of had like aspirations when he was younger
Speaker 1: to be like a radio personality. So he would call
Speaker 1: in a lot. And then once when I first got
Speaker 1: on SNL, and he might have truly organized it, but
Speaker 1: I had some kind of interview with a local Cleveland
Speaker 1: AM radio station. Jonah, I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: about this. He called into So it was like me
Speaker 1: and my dad kind of on this show, and I
Speaker 1: had we set it up somehow so that our dad did,
Speaker 1: like his impressions on this AM radio show. His impressions,
Speaker 1: Like I think he does some like impersonations. You know,
Speaker 1: he does the impersonations. There's a real early newscaster that
Speaker 1: he does Cronkite or something. Yeah, Like, I think he
Speaker 1: did a cron Kite impression. He did a couple other impressions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. We talked a lot about our dad thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to support it. Being the first
Speaker 1: todd he all so is quite a ham. I don't
Speaker 1: know if people know that he's among his friends, you know,
Speaker 1: the guy doing impressions and stuff like that. So he
Speaker 1: got to do them. Unamed radio very full circle. We'll
Speaker 1: try to find it for you. Claudia will try to
Speaker 1: send it right on. All right, we're gonna take quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back with Claudia Sante and
Speaker 1: we're back, Claudia, iould have question for you, and something
Speaker 1: I've never asked you and I've wondered about for so long.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in college early two thousand's,
Speaker 1: I went to school in Ithaca, and I remember a
Speaker 1: rumor that this band and e VR Coheen and Camera
Speaker 1: was playing a show at the teen center there. Did
Speaker 1: you ever play a show at a teen center in Ithaca,
Speaker 1: New York, like twenty years ago? Do you not remember
Speaker 1: that at all? Probably? I don't remember very much. It
Speaker 1: was a long time ago, but I remember it being
Speaker 1: weird that a band on an actual label was playing this.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, No, we would play some wild stuff
Speaker 1: like you know, that's funny because before we signed to
Speaker 1: Equal Vision, I mean all we could play we're teen centers,
Speaker 1: you know, community centers, things like that. But once we
Speaker 1: got signed to e v R, you know, we found
Speaker 1: that some of the routing would take us to community centers,
Speaker 1: you know, like it happens. So I can't imagine we didn't.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing? That happens with bands now, like
Speaker 1: younger bands. Do you think or is that just a
Speaker 1: thing that you because I don't hear about it. But
Speaker 1: I also wonder if I'm just too old to know
Speaker 1: about what goes on, what like having to get in
Speaker 1: a van and and grind it out, Like do bands
Speaker 1: play it like a community centers, like I'm like their
Speaker 1: tour rootings and stuff. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if if that is a thing anymore. Yeah, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: disconnected from that era of what we do and how
Speaker 1: it happens now. You know, it's so wild when I
Speaker 1: think of like, like I think of then, not that
Speaker 1: this is maybe this is just a generalization, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think of then, and I think of
Speaker 1: the only way to do what we did was by
Speaker 1: really getting in there and sweating it out, getting in
Speaker 1: the van, going and but now I feel like there's
Speaker 1: an opportunity to stay at home and get and create
Speaker 1: that level of you know, with all the social sort
Speaker 1: of aspects of you know the world now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure they do. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they do. They have to. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to go out there and you want to put yourself
Speaker 1: in front of people, and you want to share that energy,
Speaker 1: and that's I think what sells it. Now, speaking of energy,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Claudia, have you ever
Speaker 1: met Bobby moynahan, because I think you guys have almost
Speaker 1: the same exact voice, truly same accent. I think you
Speaker 1: also both have like a very nice energy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've ever met him, but in some ways
Speaker 1: you guys sound so much alike. I need to know
Speaker 1: what this is now. It's the first thing I thought
Speaker 1: of when we started talking. Bobby moynahan. He's an actor,
Speaker 1: comedian from SNL and many other things. At some point
Speaker 1: you two have to meet. It's really uncanny, Claudie. Have
Speaker 1: you ever done any sort of comedy crossover stuff in
Speaker 1: your career? No, it's funny. I try, well, not for
Speaker 1: because I'm not funny, but you know, I started like
Speaker 1: a twitch channel, and uh, you know, I thought it
Speaker 1: would be a good way to exercise my engaging with
Speaker 1: an audience because that seems to be like the one
Speaker 1: thing that I really have a hard time with still
Speaker 1: now doing this twenty years in my life. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: engaging an audience, like you know, we always curate Coheed
Speaker 1: sets to like have no like downtime, like just put
Speaker 1: a segue in there, so as little banter as possible.
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, through the pandemic, I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll start like a Twitch thing and then you know,
Speaker 1: I could try to get a chemistry like a flow happening,
Speaker 1: and man, I am not good at what is? Can
Speaker 1: you explain what? Like what do you do? Because I,
Speaker 1: like Karen had a Twitch channel for all a while
Speaker 1: and he played video games and I went on it
Speaker 1: once and it was one of those video games where
Speaker 1: it was like really involved and I'm just standing against
Speaker 1: the wall, moving slightly side to side because I got
Speaker 1: and squatting a ton squatting. Yeah, that's that sounds like
Speaker 1: an interesting game, Claude. What do you do? Like what
Speaker 1: like when you get on Twitter, you're just like hey guys,
Speaker 1: what's up? Or like, hey, you know what I do
Speaker 1: is so it's a variety of things. So yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: play games, but accompanying the games, I'll set up, like say,
Speaker 1: a drum machine and a looper pedal and sort of
Speaker 1: create a piece of music in that moment, but try
Speaker 1: to continue to do that as I play the game,
Speaker 1: so like like do this multitasking of like creating a
Speaker 1: song or you know while playing the game that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, or you know, of recent what I've been
Speaker 1: doing is I've been sharing my screen and showing like
Speaker 1: sort of the creative process of like you know, putting
Speaker 1: together a song, um, you know in pro tools or
Speaker 1: something like that. I just came up with a joke
Speaker 1: about Twitch. Do you guys want to hear it? Yeah? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: You could subscribe to Twitch and watch a bunch of
Speaker 1: people playing video games. Or you could just get an
Speaker 1: older brother because when we were growing up, Jonah kind
Speaker 1: of would play video games and I just have to
Speaker 1: watch and he'd be like, your turn is next, but
Speaker 1: it never really would come. But I think that's the
Speaker 1: case with a lot of older brothers. That's why the
Speaker 1: joke us are you can you can just get an
Speaker 1: older brother? Really giving us to save that one? Do
Speaker 1: you may stand up gigs coming up? Proby Not not
Speaker 1: at the moment, but I am around if people want
Speaker 1: to book me. So Claudio, we really want to get
Speaker 1: into your topic. You sent us so many great ideas
Speaker 1: and we did a lot of research on what we
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about with you, which was something I'm
Speaker 1: guessing you've never done any interviews about before. Potato skins. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: potato skins. What are your memories of potato skins? Potato
Speaker 1: skins got baked potato appeal because the made with potatoes
Speaker 1: and skins that are real. That's about it. That's that's
Speaker 1: it is the jingle. That song has been in my
Speaker 1: head for the last thirty years. We've talked about that before.
Speaker 1: Potato skins. Potato skins have come back. I guess like
Speaker 1: they've been making a comeback. Well t G I F.
Speaker 1: That restaurant change still exists. I don't know, but yes,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, it's Friday. It does. It does. Did you
Speaker 1: ever go to t G I F growing up? I
Speaker 1: don't think we went to t G I F. I
Speaker 1: think the only restaurant we ever frequented was Bennigan's as children. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know that T G I have bought potato skins
Speaker 1: and you can find them in airports across the United States. Yes,
Speaker 1: very concident. You know, I had a really awkward situation
Speaker 1: happened at it. Thank goodness, it's Friday's growing up. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can really anyone can really just
Speaker 1: I hate like being the center of attention, like, but
Speaker 1: like birthday stuff, especially as a kid, that made me
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. And I went there once and I was
Speaker 1: with my friends and someone told them it was my birthday,
Speaker 1: and so they like started coming over singing this song.
Speaker 1: This is like my Yeah, they make a huge deal
Speaker 1: out of birthdays there. So I said it's not my
Speaker 1: birthday and they're like okay, and then I got up
Speaker 1: my idea. I was like, no, seriously, it's not my birthday.
Speaker 1: And they were so bummed. They're like like we're like
Speaker 1: they were like mad, and my friends were like why
Speaker 1: would you just go with it? And then I felt
Speaker 1: like I looked like the bad guy. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that happened to you. I'm so sorry. How old are you?
Speaker 1: Haven't thought about in a while. It's not a topic
Speaker 1: that comes up lot, but that's my only memory of
Speaker 1: that restaurant. Do you remember how old you were? I
Speaker 1: think I was old enough to have an I D
Speaker 1: so I want to say I was probably like sixteen
Speaker 1: maybe or something. But yeah, So Potato Skins t j
Speaker 1: I F claims that they came up with the potato Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. A few restaurants claim ownership for this.
Speaker 1: For example, this article says, depending on who you ask,
Speaker 1: three different restaurants are credited with giving birth to the
Speaker 1: appetizer back in the early seventies. WHOA one of these
Speaker 1: is my favorite restaurant? Oh no, it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: the Prime Rib Restaurant Washington. What's the one? Mountain Jack's
Speaker 1: is my favorite restaurant. They serve primary, but they're not
Speaker 1: called the primary restaurant. I'm so sorry. The Prime Rib
Speaker 1: Restaurant in Washington, d C R J Grunts in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and mass Market Land of Frozen Mudslides and Jack Daniel's
Speaker 1: Ribs t G I Fridays. Yeah, so they all claim it,
Speaker 1: you know. T J S says, as legend has it,
Speaker 1: one of our cooks was making This is a quote
Speaker 1: from an article. One of our cooks was making mashed
Speaker 1: potatoes in the back of the house and decided to
Speaker 1: drop in the potatoes in the fryer. When it came out,
Speaker 1: he threw our proprietaries fry seasoning on it, which I'm
Speaker 1: guessing is salt added cheddars, smoke bacon. The rest they
Speaker 1: say is history, says Matt Durban, the Chains vice president
Speaker 1: of concept Development. Okay, okay, he's kind of acting like
Speaker 1: it's like a Marie Curry thing where it happened by accident,
Speaker 1: but it seems like he very purposely. As legend had it,
Speaker 1: one of our cooks is making mashed potatoes and decided
Speaker 1: to put the potatoes into the fryer and then add
Speaker 1: all this stuff to it. It's like, yeah, he just
Speaker 1: made them. What's the legend behind it? Like it sounds
Speaker 1: oddly like the Chimmy Chonga birth. Am I wrong in that?
Speaker 1: Like burrito drops in the fryer and this says the
Speaker 1: guy decided to drop it in the fryer. I just
Speaker 1: want to say that doesn't feel like Okay, go ahead, Jonah. Sorry.
Speaker 1: What's weird about it to me is, I don't know
Speaker 1: how long potatoes have been around. I assume a very
Speaker 1: long time. It's just like a part of the potato right.
Speaker 1: Like It's like it's like you can't invent like an
Speaker 1: apple skin. Like I know they're frying it, it's the
Speaker 1: way they're preparing it, but it also seems like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's already been there for thousands of years. It's like
Speaker 1: saying you invented like sliced app You're like, well you could.
Speaker 1: And this says that they were invented in the middle
Speaker 1: of the twentieth century potato skins after a restaurant tour
Speaker 1: learned that sailors were eating vitamin heavy potato skins to
Speaker 1: stave off illnesses. Now, what do you mean invented in
Speaker 1: the That seems like it's why people started eating potatoes,
Speaker 1: but not potato skins. Like it feels like all these
Speaker 1: articles are trying to really like make potato skins so legendary,
Speaker 1: where it's it's just a recipe with potatoes, right. Not
Speaker 1: to take away Claudia, here's my question to you, Like
Speaker 1: were you going to t G I Friday's getting potatoes
Speaker 1: skins or benigins or were you Did you ever have
Speaker 1: like the bag like from the song, Like that was
Speaker 1: like a snack you'd bring to school? That was it
Speaker 1: the bag for me? It's like, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: it was just a potato chip variety about you know,
Speaker 1: as a kid, when I would eat like potatoes, like
Speaker 1: I ate the skin, and I feel like my siblings
Speaker 1: were probably like that's disgusting, but I would and I
Speaker 1: got down with it. And but then I also really
Speaker 1: liked I don't know, I found those chips and those
Speaker 1: in like Pringles for some reason as a kid in
Speaker 1: the eighties were like my jam. And then the key
Speaker 1: bler Elves made the oh boys o Boesies. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that was their sort of attempt
Speaker 1: at like making a poato skin. Yeah, I really remember
Speaker 1: for us, you know, there were those variety paths from
Speaker 1: fried to lay that were like Ruffles, Cheetos, Fritos, Derito's,
Speaker 1: those were like those are really tiny bags. Those I
Speaker 1: remember a lot now. I'm just remembering because I looked
Speaker 1: it up. We've talked about potato skins on here before
Speaker 1: and they no longer exist. They've kind of turned into t. G. I.
Speaker 1: Friday's chips. They are the missing potato skins. This other
Speaker 1: article says, so you can still get like a version
Speaker 1: of potato skins now, but they're just called t. G. I.
Speaker 1: Friday's potato skins, right, And they're normally I find them,
Speaker 1: not that I really eat them now in life, but
Speaker 1: I do find them at airports. You find them an airport, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: They're like always like an option at the airport next
Speaker 1: to the combos let me ask you this, Like you're
Speaker 1: in a band, big band, you tour a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have a tour rider. Do you think you
Speaker 1: could put potato skins? Potato skins on your rider and
Speaker 1: they would just magically show up? Like could you put
Speaker 1: something like that on there? Sure I can put it
Speaker 1: on there, But now that you say that, maybe I will.
Speaker 1: You know, why not? Why not? What an incredible move
Speaker 1: if you put potato skins on your rider and like
Speaker 1: you showed up backstage and there's just delicious potato skins
Speaker 1: topped with as this article says, sour cream, cheese, gallions
Speaker 1: and bacon. And by the way, this article, I don't
Speaker 1: know who wrote this article because it's sort of like,
Speaker 1: but they said potato skins started as a quote, I
Speaker 1: don't know who they're quoting, fatish fun food entry and
Speaker 1: became a ubiquitous dish of nineties. They are cheap and
Speaker 1: you can load on sour cream, cheese, gallions, and bacon.
Speaker 1: As they just said, the boom years of the potato
Speaker 1: skin crazy. And then it says they started losing their
Speaker 1: appeal because they weren't exciting for chefs and visually didn't
Speaker 1: excite people according to whom even though they are aren't healthy.
Speaker 1: This is really interesting for you, Claudio. Even though they
Speaker 1: aren't healthy, Most of the nutrients are found in the skin.
Speaker 1: So when your siblings were kind of giving you, you know, like,
Speaker 1: it's good that you were eating the skin because that's
Speaker 1: where the nutrients are. My grandfather would say all the time,
Speaker 1: eat the skin. I'm like, you got it delicious. Did
Speaker 1: you also know that t G I F briefly employed
Speaker 1: a potato skin mascot that was prone to giving fans
Speaker 1: the middle finger? Weird? Right on? What how did it
Speaker 1: even have hands? Okay, why was the potato scantita mascot
Speaker 1: giving fans the middle finger? That seems I don't know.
Speaker 1: T G I F. Like what a fun concept, But like,
Speaker 1: was that the restaurant that was kind of in that
Speaker 1: movie that Jennifer Anniston movie, Office Space was the place
Speaker 1: she worked? Was I supposed to be based on kind
Speaker 1: of like no, I don't remember. I don't remember. We're
Speaker 1: like they were always talking about you need to have
Speaker 1: more flair and like, right, you have to put all
Speaker 1: those but I think it was probably like a version,
Speaker 1: if not exactly, of t G. I. Yeah, our producers
Speaker 1: saying it was a parody of t G I Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder like if t g I Fridays as an
Speaker 1: adult was as fun because I only remember going there
Speaker 1: maybe at oldest as a teenager. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: say one last thing. Lace has also jumped on the
Speaker 1: potatoes masquerading as other potato products Bandwagon and currently sells
Speaker 1: bacon cheddar potato skin flavored ruth Bulls. So that's another
Speaker 1: potato skins kind of sub for anybody who might be interested.
Speaker 1: Do you find anyone interested in this? Well, it seems
Speaker 1: like both of you really have a funness. Potato skins
Speaker 1: almost more so than potato skins. Yeah, I wasn't really
Speaker 1: as aware. Actually, potato skins is a thing I felt
Speaker 1: like the potato skins I knew about because that commercial
Speaker 1: was so ubiquitous, right, Claudia, Yeah, yeah that, I mean
Speaker 1: that next to folders in your cup. It's like jingles really, So,
Speaker 1: I mean they sold the product sitting there with Spiralize
Speaker 1: watching he Man and getting the messages at the end
Speaker 1: of the episodes, and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: was like combos and it's like, oh, I gotta get that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the one that really did it for me were the
Speaker 1: stovetop stuff in commercials. Those kids trying to eat like
Speaker 1: nine dinners and one they feel like friends. So it
Speaker 1: was like, just ask your mom to make more so
Speaker 1: you don't have to keep going to other people's houses
Speaker 1: and eating stuffing. That's so Stuffing also such an interesting
Speaker 1: food to like market to kids because it's a food
Speaker 1: like you really only see a Thanksgiving. I never think
Speaker 1: about stuffing like nine. Yeah. Yeah, it's a strange, very
Speaker 1: very strange. Did either of you ever have the other
Speaker 1: thing that was on the list next to tato skins?
Speaker 1: The chicken Rhonda Laise? No? What are those exactly? I
Speaker 1: do not know, but my mother would make them all
Speaker 1: the time, Like it would be like, Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have chicken Rhonda Laise for dinner. It was basically a
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich, but before like I guess, a chicken sandwich
Speaker 1: became as popular as it has become. But it's just
Speaker 1: like a disk and I talked to my friends about
Speaker 1: it all the time. For some reason, I bring it
Speaker 1: up and it's just one of those things that just
Speaker 1: doesn't land because I feel like I might be the
Speaker 1: only person in the world that ate it. It sounds
Speaker 1: very fancy. It's not. It is not. It's just processed
Speaker 1: like you know, in what looks like a chicken pet,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, putspreading on paste. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a chicken nugget basically, but in a
Speaker 1: sandwich form. Yeah, it sounds delicious. It is. It was.
Speaker 1: Actually that sounds just and you can't find them anymore so,
Speaker 1: but your mom would make them well you know like
Speaker 1: that put it in the like know quick stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: they were working a lot, so it was like it
Speaker 1: came in like a box at the grocery store or
Speaker 1: something like in the right, yeah, frozen disks, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like a corn chicken fake chicken thing, but
Speaker 1: right supposed to be real chicken. And would you prepare
Speaker 1: it with like anything else, like you serve a plane
Speaker 1: or what's your just I guess as a sandwich as
Speaker 1: like the the like main thing. It's just like you
Speaker 1: put it in the toaster of and then that's it. Honestly,
Speaker 1: chicken rondelas sounds awesome. Let's find them. Let's find them
Speaker 1: there in some freezer somewhere. Real nasty. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I do feel like you're right though. Claudio like the advertising,
Speaker 1: Like I think Vanessa talked about how like advertisers have
Speaker 1: like laws the way they can market to kids, because
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, like my teacher from college who taught
Speaker 1: children in media about that, and she kind of thought
Speaker 1: I made it up. Yeah, we're not sure if Fessa
Speaker 1: made this up or not, but there are some rules.
Speaker 1: There are some some rules because it's like it's maybe
Speaker 1: because there were less things to watch and you saw
Speaker 1: the same commercials over and over more, but it feels
Speaker 1: like those things are still so seared into our minds.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Absolutely, Dato skins got big potato up
Speaker 1: him because they're made we have potato. What do you
Speaker 1: think do you think perhaps like a Coheed cover of
Speaker 1: that would ever see the light of day. I may
Speaker 1: have actually said that as banter because I had nothing
Speaker 1: else to say at one point, So it's probably out there,
Speaker 1: like documented as a Coheed cover. Oh my gosh, oh man,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Jingles were so amazing at that. Here's
Speaker 1: the funny story. It's completely unrelated. So anyway, through the pandemic,
Speaker 1: I purchased on reverb. I bought this space Echo ari
Speaker 1: E two oh one unit right, but the person that
Speaker 1: was selling it was on Roosevelt Island. I go over
Speaker 1: there to pick it up, and I started talking with
Speaker 1: the fellow because you I noticed on his rever page
Speaker 1: he was selling a bunch of stuff and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: were you like a studio engineer or something. And it
Speaker 1: turns out he's actually the guy that's sang the Jingles
Speaker 1: in the eighties no way, like, so we just get yeah,
Speaker 1: and he starts singing like like you know, he's like
Speaker 1: one of the voices that you know, if it wasn't
Speaker 1: Richie Haven singing the Fulder Crystals song, it was this
Speaker 1: fi yeah, like if he started singing in the middle
Speaker 1: of his lobby, and I was just like, wow, you
Speaker 1: are totally the guy. Our dad went to Syracuse and
Speaker 1: then he transferred to be you. I think when he
Speaker 1: was at Syracuse College he went with the guy who
Speaker 1: remember when we were growing up, and there'd be like
Speaker 1: a TV like a kind of longer like commercial, kind
Speaker 1: of like an infomercial for something, and at the end
Speaker 1: it would be like just send your CEO of money,
Speaker 1: or it would be a blue screen and it would
Speaker 1: say send your like C, like your your money ordered C.
Speaker 1: O D or money. Yeah, no c O D send
Speaker 1: your money. Or he had like a really weird voice
Speaker 1: and he'd be like two five, five five or three hundred.
Speaker 1: That's like that guy. Our dad knew that guy. He
Speaker 1: went to colleague with that guy who did all those
Speaker 1: voiceovers for those commercials. Isn't it so crazy that he
Speaker 1: went to college with that guy? That is crazy? And
Speaker 1: I looked up what a c O D is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is the CD on delivery? So it's like you
Speaker 1: could order something and then you'd have to pay for
Speaker 1: it when they brought it to you. That's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course there's no c O D right for those projects.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine selling like records to people and being like,
Speaker 1: just pay for it. Well, we'll just pay to press
Speaker 1: and ship it to you and then you can just
Speaker 1: pay us whenever you get it. It's funny they don't
Speaker 1: say no c O D s anymore because you're like,
Speaker 1: of course not anyway, I repeated myself, Okay, well we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick commercial break and we'll be right
Speaker 1: back with Bobby moynahan. I'm kidding Sanchez. So we're back,
Speaker 1: and now we're going to play a game where we
Speaker 1: bring up nostalgic products, shows, etcetera that are making a comeback,
Speaker 1: and the game is called yes noa nostalgia. If you're
Speaker 1: into whatever product it said where we bring up, you
Speaker 1: can give it a yes stalgia, and if you're not
Speaker 1: into it, you can give it a nostalgia. So first
Speaker 1: one off, I can kick us off. Sure, hocus Pocus
Speaker 1: is getting a reboot. Hocus Pocus too, it's getting a
Speaker 1: sequel nearly three decades later. This is I guess, as
Speaker 1: a review said, it's a better made film, even if
Speaker 1: a mounts to a little more than a stealth remake.
Speaker 1: And it's got Bett Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, the Stars.
Speaker 1: It seems like of the original thirty years later. Claudia,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on a hocus Pocus to You
Speaker 1: have to give that yes stalgia nostalgia. What are you thinking?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a yes, Stalgia because my wife
Speaker 1: has some sort of history with this movie, whereas I
Speaker 1: have absolutely no connection to this title at all. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know some people really are find this to be
Speaker 1: like a classic kind of cult movie. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever seen it, but I do know, I do
Speaker 1: know that. See, your wife is a big fan of
Speaker 1: the original. I mean, yeah, I think, I mean she
Speaker 1: brings it up. You know, it gets brought up around
Speaker 1: Halloween every once in a while. You know, the Sanders Sisters.
Speaker 1: Is that the characters the right So that's the only
Speaker 1: reason I know that is because of her. So has
Speaker 1: she ever sat you down and been like Claudia tonight
Speaker 1: we're watching Hocus Focus, you know what, I believe a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago she tried to sit myself and
Speaker 1: our son down for it. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't recall us making it. You know, yeah, maybe Hocus
Speaker 1: Focus to you two can can check it out. Let
Speaker 1: us know what you think. Double features. Yes, and our
Speaker 1: producer said, it's the Sanderson Sisters. I guess the Colonel Sanderson.
Speaker 1: You were very close. You were very close, especially for
Speaker 1: someone who's not like a huge fan of it, that's
Speaker 1: pretty close. Yes, Butt Midler, Sarah, Jessica Parker and Kathina
Speaker 1: Jimmy as absolutely fabulous Salem Witch sisters. I keep in
Speaker 1: my Vanessa is in the business, so you know, obviously
Speaker 1: you don't want to alienate anyone because it's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've a lot of friends who
Speaker 1: are huge fans of this movie. I for some reason
Speaker 1: like miss this movie and have watched so many parts
Speaker 1: of it on TV. Like I don't know that I've
Speaker 1: ever watched the entire thing all the way through, but
Speaker 1: I think recently I got closest to starting watching it
Speaker 1: at the beginning. It was very successful, and I think
Speaker 1: that sometimes when movies are kind of marketed to like families,
Speaker 1: like when movies are for families and for kids, and
Speaker 1: they don't talk down to them like they actually make
Speaker 1: them have kind of high stakes and are really kind
Speaker 1: of more intense, they're more successful because they're not just
Speaker 1: kind of fluff, if you will. That's my take as whatever.
Speaker 1: So I think this movie was very successful and that
Speaker 1: people are really excited about this reboot, if not only
Speaker 1: because the three women in it are such stars and
Speaker 1: people love them so much. So I'm a hundred yes
Speaker 1: nostalgia for it. If they couldn't have gotten one of
Speaker 1: the three women back, I think it would be tough
Speaker 1: to watch it. But since they it sounds like they've
Speaker 1: got them all back, I'm in Okay, Jonah, what do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I think you know, obviously everything is
Speaker 1: kind of getting rebooted these days. I think at first
Speaker 1: I was very like resistant to this, and I was
Speaker 1: like kind of precious about things, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: like there's a new quantum leap, there's a Karate Kid thing.
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm just like, fine, like if if
Speaker 1: if people want to watch this and make them happy,
Speaker 1: that's cool. Maybe it's not for me, but I'm really
Speaker 1: trying hard not to be that guy that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was better before, you can't write it, So I
Speaker 1: don't have any kind of sanctity feelings about this. Sure,
Speaker 1: why not gestalgia? Yeah, people want to see aegotiated Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got this next one. This isn't really something that
Speaker 1: has gone away that's coming back, but it's coming back
Speaker 1: in a new way. Kraft mac and Cheese ice cream.
Speaker 1: You know, we can all remember sitting down for the
Speaker 1: boxed macaroni and cheese. It's now coming out in the
Speaker 1: form of a savory ice cream dessert. Surprise Surprised by
Speaker 1: Brooklyn based creamery Van Lewin. Okay, that's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a burn on them from me for being like
Speaker 1: so like, you know, like at us We're in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: and we're being cool anyway. Isn't this hilarious? Yeah? Can
Speaker 1: you even believe us? We're so wildly peace love? That's
Speaker 1: not exactly right Van Lewin. Apparently it was an instant hit,
Speaker 1: selling out within one hour of release on the Van
Speaker 1: Louin website. Bunch of hipsters. Since then, demand for Kraft
Speaker 1: and I want to say, when I said peace and love,
Speaker 1: before that was hippies and this is more hipsters. Okay.
Speaker 1: Since then, demand for Kraft Mac and Cheese ice cream
Speaker 1: has grown. As described by Reddit user ill Athlete four
Speaker 1: nine six three, the taste is sweet, creamy, high quality
Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream mixed with an aggressive amount of Kraft
Speaker 1: cheese powder, and it has captured the attention and taste
Speaker 1: buds of many. Kraft Mac and Cheese ice cream is
Speaker 1: available Walmart stores across all fifty states on a ten
Speaker 1: week uotation, which could mean that the rollout is for
Speaker 1: a limited time only. Now, this article came out I
Speaker 1: think almost a year ago, so I'm not sure of
Speaker 1: the ex status right now. If you can get this
Speaker 1: Craft Mac and Cheese ice cream, Van Lewin offers a
Speaker 1: lot of other unique flavors for hipsters like pizza, hot honey,
Speaker 1: and bourbon cherries jubilee. So there you go. What do
Speaker 1: you guys think. I'm not judging by the faces you've
Speaker 1: been making, I'm guessing you're not a fan of Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not working with that. It's just something about sure,
Speaker 1: I'll make it for my son, and yeah, why not.
Speaker 1: That's a nostalgic like food item that will teleport me
Speaker 1: back to four. But in ice cream, it's just not
Speaker 1: something I can get down with. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I might put a jar of Hellman's in
Speaker 1: the freezer and eat that first. No, that was just disgusting.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I would not do that. So you like
Speaker 1: ice cream, you like mac and cheese, you don't like
Speaker 1: them the combo? Yeah, I don't necessarily think that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, when Vanessa was describing it, you know, I
Speaker 1: hear vanilla ice cream and I was curious, like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: how do you implement the craft mac? And to hear
Speaker 1: just cheese powder, the cheese powder. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess with that cheese, just the cheese powder at all.
Speaker 1: So is it like riot chunks of it in a
Speaker 1: cookie dough fashion? You know, I don't have to say
Speaker 1: nostalgia fair enough. I knew about this because someone I
Speaker 1: fell on Twitter. I can't remember who it is, posted
Speaker 1: like a photo of it, so it's still around. This
Speaker 1: is like a couple of months ago, and I looked
Speaker 1: into it, and I don't go to Walmart a lot,
Speaker 1: but you know, I live in a rural area. We
Speaker 1: have a Walmart. I go once in a while. I
Speaker 1: was looking for it, and I think it would have
Speaker 1: been tough if they had it. I'm I don't know
Speaker 1: if I would have got it, like just wants to
Speaker 1: try it. Part of me also thinks, like doing an
Speaker 1: exclusive flavor with Walmart for like this Brooklyn Lemartris and
Speaker 1: ice cream thing, is that like the whole something about
Speaker 1: the whole like vibe of the promotion with Kraft, It
Speaker 1: seems kind of weird. I think it's something I would try,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's something that we really need.
Speaker 1: And I think it's definitely not worth going to Walmart
Speaker 1: to get just a specific kind of ice cream. So
Speaker 1: it just seems like a lot, a lot of effort
Speaker 1: or something that I'm going to guess not a lot
Speaker 1: of payoff, to be honest. Well, it sounds like there
Speaker 1: has been a lot of payoff because it was sold
Speaker 1: up pretty quickly. But I don't know for ye payoff
Speaker 1: for Walmart and Van Louin the bank, I'm saying, payoff
Speaker 1: for me customer's ice cream that's like this taste like
Speaker 1: weird cheese flavored ice cream. No thanks, Sure, sure, but
Speaker 1: I guess I need to try it to actually know.
Speaker 1: So maybe they should just send us something. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: they should. I mean, it looks like our producer, Olivia
Speaker 1: said it's still available. It's available now in the Van
Speaker 1: Luin site. You can still buy it, you know. I'm
Speaker 1: mixed on this. I will say Jenny's ice Cream sent
Speaker 1: me some ice cream a few months ago, which was
Speaker 1: very nice of them, and they sent me they're like
Speaker 1: everything bagel, everything bagel ice cream. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: everything bagel and cream cheese or something. I can't remember
Speaker 1: exactly the flavor, but it was something like that. And
Speaker 1: I was so like, oh, this is going to be
Speaker 1: gross because I had like garlic powder in it and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, like, and it was really really good. My
Speaker 1: problem with ice creams like that is like I just
Speaker 1: don't know when you're supposed to eat them. Because they
Speaker 1: don't really taste like dessert, even though they're very creamy.
Speaker 1: They like are so savory that they don't like. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I have like kind of a sweet tooth after dinner
Speaker 1: or something, but I don't know that I would The
Speaker 1: first thing I would reach out for would be Kraft
Speaker 1: mac and cheese ice cream. But I am curious. I'm
Speaker 1: curious about it. I asked Olivia how much does it cost,
Speaker 1: because I was like, it's probably really expensive. It's twelve
Speaker 1: dollars for fourteen ounces, which I don't know how many
Speaker 1: ounces are in a pint, and it's a normal container.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I won't go higher than ten
Speaker 1: bucks for a pine of ice cream. Sixteen pine that's
Speaker 1: a lot, even for Van Luini. So this is even
Speaker 1: less than a pint, and it's twelve dollars, So I
Speaker 1: don't know it feels. And as you were saying, Claudio, like,
Speaker 1: I can't tell if they mean like it tastes like
Speaker 1: the cheese powder or if there's actual like bits of
Speaker 1: the cheese powder in it. I mean, it's probably they're
Speaker 1: little noodles in it. Yeah, let's see, we just got
Speaker 1: a link for it. I'm going to give this doesn't
Speaker 1: have noodles, Okay, it doesn't have noodles. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to give this a nostalgia to just because I just
Speaker 1: feel like you're making people pay kind of a lot
Speaker 1: of money for something that they might be totally grossed
Speaker 1: up by. Right, yeah, And this is like also the
Speaker 1: most corporate ice cream ever. I mean, this is like
Speaker 1: a craft Walmart. I mean it's like, you know, go
Speaker 1: down as someone who's not friendly towards CEO s. This
Speaker 1: is not the ice cream for Jonah. No, I've been
Speaker 1: I've been really enjoying the oatly ice cream. I get
Speaker 1: it's on sale four bucks of pine oat milk. Give
Speaker 1: me some of the you know, coffee ice cream. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's all. Sure. I don't need this this fancy
Speaker 1: uh macaroni and cheese or ravioli or you know whatever
Speaker 1: kind of ice creams are rolling out chocolate or vanilla please? Right, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's around the nostalgia's Our last one is Claudio. Actually,
Speaker 1: this one you might you might have an interesting opinion
Speaker 1: on this one doesn't really apply to me so much,
Speaker 1: but it's scrunch eese scrunch like hair scrunchy hair, scrunch cheese.
Speaker 1: I guess there's a carry Bradshaw that's from Sex in
Speaker 1: the City. She apparently killed the scrunchy for a decade
Speaker 1: after saying I'm guessing on the show she said no
Speaker 1: woman would be caught dead at a hip downtown restaurant
Speaker 1: wearing a scrunchy. And this article says now they are
Speaker 1: treated as a fashion trend. And this is from the Guardian.
Speaker 1: It says, quote people love matching scrunches to their outfits.
Speaker 1: Big designer brands are producing them and they are used
Speaker 1: for hair health and better hair growth. Claudio is someone
Speaker 1: who you know has a lot of hair. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on scruncheese? Have you ever rocked a scrunchy
Speaker 1: on stage? Do you? What do you think about the
Speaker 1: comeback of the scrun cheese? What what's going on? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, scrunchy makes this thing? Okay, what is it?
Speaker 1: This is a scrunch but this is a scrunchy hair tie. Well,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I think we're not talking
Speaker 1: as much about the brand Scrunchy as actual scrunchese. So
Speaker 1: does a scrunch So here's the thing is this will
Speaker 1: pull the hell out of my hair, you know, but
Speaker 1: I need to use it because you know, there's just
Speaker 1: so much of it and it gets in the way
Speaker 1: and it's it's like I can't work with my hair
Speaker 1: out right, only on really rocking it on stage, I guess.
Speaker 1: But um, a scrunchy is it like almost like Lufa texture,
Speaker 1: Like it's like kind of flowery looking. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find a link to scrunchy. Like what's what Claudia
Speaker 1: has right now? Is kind of more like a thick
Speaker 1: kind of rubber bandy type. Yeah, it's basically a rubb
Speaker 1: basically a rubber band they're talking about. Yes, these more
Speaker 1: colorful like Yeah, I guess I would say like Lufa
Speaker 1: like fabric e looking bigger A lot of times. They're
Speaker 1: made of a satin of a cotton. They're made of
Speaker 1: all different materials. There's a link in there. There's yes,
Speaker 1: in the chat Claudia. If you want a scrunchy, it's
Speaker 1: sort of like it's like a hair band, but it
Speaker 1: has like a bunch of fabric loosely kind of scrunched
Speaker 1: around it. And they were very very big in like
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, and honestly, Claudio, I think for
Speaker 1: the reasons that you've just been mentioning, you might to
Speaker 1: invest in one. I think because they won't pull your hair,
Speaker 1: and they're kind of soft, and they were a big
Speaker 1: fashion thing like in I kind of feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of people wore them in like John Hughes movies
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. They were such a big trend
Speaker 1: for women and girls because they would hold your hair back.
Speaker 1: But you know, they were also very visible because of
Speaker 1: the different patterns and materials and colors they came in.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you probably don't even have to ask me.
Speaker 1: It's probably pretty obvious where I stand on this, and
Speaker 1: I'm give this a gues stalgia. I think this is
Speaker 1: a great comeback healthy for your hair. They're so fun.
Speaker 1: A lot of times people will sometimes match their scrunchy
Speaker 1: to their outfit, or like if you were lucky enough
Speaker 1: to have a parent who sewed, maybe they would make
Speaker 1: you address and with the extra material make you a scrunchy, okay,
Speaker 1: Or if you're taking sewing classes at John Fabrics like
Speaker 1: I did for a few years, like you could maybe
Speaker 1: make us. Did you ever make any scrunches? Now? I
Speaker 1: made a vest in a backpack. But I'm like, what
Speaker 1: and I make us? It's possible. It's possible I made one.
Speaker 1: I would think it would be harder to sew actually
Speaker 1: than you would think, because you got to get the
Speaker 1: elastic part. Yeah. So I have no idea how you
Speaker 1: make one, Claudie. So what do you think you've given this?
Speaker 1: Ayes Stalgia nostalgia? Yes, yes, Stalgia. I'm gonna buy them
Speaker 1: right when you're gonna get some right. Yeah, there's of
Speaker 1: hair scrunch Oh my gosh. Do they take C D?
Speaker 1: This is incredible. I wonder if they do take C
Speaker 1: O D. Claudia. I'm picturing you like next week, just
Speaker 1: kicking back, scrunched, eating some Kraft mac and cheese ice
Speaker 1: cream with the orange scrunch in your hair. Yeah, matching
Speaker 1: that the ice cream and just having the time of
Speaker 1: your life. Also, I feel like people are going to
Speaker 1: go to co eating camera shows and be like, what
Speaker 1: color scrunch you will Claudio have on this city. We're
Speaker 1: gonna keywork pattern the hell out of a bunch of
Speaker 1: colored scrunch ees. Oh my gosh, there will be sold
Speaker 1: right at the right at the merch table. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: coheating cameras scrunches that feels like a track, right, and
Speaker 1: a little bundle with like a Coheed like brush with
Speaker 1: like you know, key work and dragonfly on it with
Speaker 1: matching scrunch eese. You know Sky's limit, God limit now,
Speaker 1: Joan O, what do you think? Yes? Or a nostalgia
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? You know, this is kind of similar
Speaker 1: to me to the Hocus focus one. Not something that
Speaker 1: really directly is going to affect my life, I think
Speaker 1: a lot. But again I'm trying to be, you know,
Speaker 1: not super negative about stuff. So sure, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's fine. I think if people get enjoyment out
Speaker 1: of it, that's great. I don't have a lot of hair,
Speaker 1: so I don't think I could actually use one, unless
Speaker 1: I could use this as maybe like a like a
Speaker 1: headband exactly, And so maybe I'll try that. If they
Speaker 1: come up with some type of busttache scrunch, maybe I
Speaker 1: could look into that as well. But sure, I'll give
Speaker 1: it a nostalgia because why not. And you know who
Speaker 1: could use a scrunchy Sebastian Junior Vidal. Yes, Becausea's buddy.
Speaker 1: That guy could rock the scrunch. Yeah. His hair is
Speaker 1: kind of how your hair used to look. Yes, well, Claudie,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for kind of indulging us. I want
Speaker 1: to say personally, claudiea thing I you like. I've asked
Speaker 1: you to do many interviews and podcasts and stuff over
Speaker 1: the years. They're always such a good sport and I
Speaker 1: appreciate you participating. It's always so great to catch up
Speaker 1: with you. Where can people find you, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Anything you can promote anything like that. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know all the socials or Claudio p. Sanchez, that's pretty
Speaker 1: much it. Twitter, Instagram, of course, Coheed and Cambria. I
Speaker 1: mean really, all you have to do is putting Coheed
Speaker 1: and everything comes up. Same thing with the Twitch channel.
Speaker 1: Claudio pe Sanchez p for Paul. But I do have
Speaker 1: a new comic coming out the end of the year,
Speaker 1: December fourteenth, that's called My Brother's Blood Machine. It's it's
Speaker 1: a horror comic. It's kind of based on this solo
Speaker 1: project I did years ago called The Prize Fighter Inferno.
Speaker 1: It's like a collection of like creations I'd made on
Speaker 1: like cassette four tracks when I was younger, and I
Speaker 1: sort of put it into a record. However, many years ago,
Speaker 1: and I translated it into a comic and so that
Speaker 1: comes out in December fourteenth, and it's you know, cool.
Speaker 1: It's just a horror story about a young girl that
Speaker 1: tries to escape or abuse of home, but stumbles upon
Speaker 1: two brothers who who have been abandoned and think that
Speaker 1: by you know, severing the connection between their soul and
Speaker 1: the body and giving it to God means that maybe
Speaker 1: they'll God will correct their sort of form. But that's
Speaker 1: about it. Sorry, awful at like pitching anything. So that
Speaker 1: sounds great. Yeah, so where can people find that? There's
Speaker 1: just just yeah, Evil Link Comics. That's my imprint. It's
Speaker 1: actually the first you know, we've we've in the past
Speaker 1: with all of the other titles, we've partnered with Boom
Speaker 1: Studios as the like publisher, so it was always like
Speaker 1: a split venture, but this is the first time we're
Speaker 1: sort of branching out on our own. So Evil Link
Speaker 1: is my imprint, and um, you know, you can find
Speaker 1: him in a comic shops are online. You know, they'll
Speaker 1: be variant covers here and there, you know, all depending
Speaker 1: on who's sort of distributing it. But um, my brother's
Speaker 1: blood machine. Alright, So yeah. Everyone, definitely make sure that
Speaker 1: you you check that out. That sounds so cool. Oh
Speaker 1: when I forgot Coheed has a new record that too.
Speaker 1: Oh right, great, Yeah, vaxus to a Window of the
Speaker 1: Waking Mind and yeah, and that's available wherever you get music,
Speaker 1: right right, Absolutely, all your DSPs and get more of
Speaker 1: your d s pas, but no co d go ahead,
Speaker 1: do not accept c d s. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, you buy it up front, then
Speaker 1: you get it like everything else. Anyways, that was really fun.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Claudio for joining us and for
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