Speaker 1: Welcome to Jay dot m a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: What's Up? What's Up? What's up? Everybody? Oh, we hope
Speaker 1: you are doing beautifully right now in this moment as
Speaker 1: you are listening to Jay dot Ilder podcast with myself,
Speaker 1: Scott Aga, Graden Dansler Hell and the lovely Liar st Clair.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I am. How did you know? I see you? Darling? Friends,
Speaker 1: we are sitting here cracking up. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: right white friends. We're talking about our our white right friends.
Speaker 1: Are white white right white white friends, white white friends?
Speaker 1: And what does that look like? Because you know, you think, alright,
Speaker 1: there's some sisters that that know who they are. They
Speaker 1: are familiar with their history, not everything, but you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and have a sense of pride about
Speaker 1: who they are and are not hiding from it. Pretty
Speaker 1: on a bass, shildly open about being proud of ourselves
Speaker 1: and our culture and history. We might think that we
Speaker 1: don't have any white friends but suppries, But we don't
Speaker 1: know me. You don't know everything everything about me for sure.
Speaker 1: Now I kind of I gotta admit I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot. Oh yeah, I don't have a lot. You
Speaker 1: have something that are absolutely quality friendships that I love.
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, my my white girlfriend, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: white girlfriends, calls me. She calls me black lady. No, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she calls me black lady. And it tickles us to
Speaker 1: no end when we are at the not when we're
Speaker 1: at the I'm good that thing tickles us so much
Speaker 1: because we know people that other people can hear us
Speaker 1: having these conversations. I call her white lady as well.
Speaker 1: Should people uncomfortable in public? Yes, time might have to
Speaker 1: go over this with my white friends, although I will
Speaker 1: have to say the first time they call me black lady,
Speaker 1: I might in it bertly push them in the mouth
Speaker 1: and then I have to apologize and work it out later.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with it? What's what's the What's what's what
Speaker 1: feels funny about? You know, your your white girlfriend calling
Speaker 1: you black lady. You know, but it's just like I
Speaker 1: just have to get over sometimes you just feel funny
Speaker 1: with the word black coming out there. But what's about
Speaker 1: to say? What sensitive? I know, I know it's very
Speaker 1: sensitive for me all the time. I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: put it down sometimes, I mean, like I know, but
Speaker 1: let me tell you, I actually have a slight sensitivity
Speaker 1: to my white friends using a v so like sometimes
Speaker 1: like if they say something we're talking there, like they're like, oh, yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: or they say something like uh like oh that's dope
Speaker 1: or um or like that, and I'd be like, oh, um, okay,
Speaker 1: I know what you I know what you mean. I
Speaker 1: know what you mean. I know I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's something in my spirit. That's what I feel. I feel.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like a little even if you don't
Speaker 1: say nothing, it's like, it's just I felt something just now.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. I don't I know,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Maybe she just said hey girl, she just
Speaker 1: said hey girl, but it was I mean, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: So then maybe we really don't have Maybe what Jill
Speaker 1: has reached the comfort level that we should be trying
Speaker 1: to get to, where it's like we can get rid
Speaker 1: of all the little tink tanks and get to the
Speaker 1: to the meat of the relationship. Oh, get rid of
Speaker 1: the tink tanks. Yeah, I mean, but the tink tinks
Speaker 1: are hard for me. But I tend to at least
Speaker 1: say so. I mean for the most part, like for
Speaker 1: the most part, but then sometimes no, I don't know
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be the bummer of the conversation.
Speaker 1: Like I will admit that that all of my white
Speaker 1: girls have white husbands. I will admit that I get
Speaker 1: the girl not see but she but she brings up
Speaker 1: a good point. Though. Is it easier when your white
Speaker 1: girlfriends day white men then when you are competing with
Speaker 1: your girls? Because IM gonna ta you something right now, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know, in my white girl relationships, I have been
Speaker 1: challenged because all my white girls likes them something brown
Speaker 1: and that has not always been easy for me. I have.
Speaker 1: We have gotten to this place with a lot of progress,
Speaker 1: you know what. And I know the friendship that you're
Speaker 1: talking about. And I have been really impressed with you
Speaker 1: over the years, honestly, Like I've really been impressed with you.
Speaker 1: I don't get to see that. Yeah, well how about that.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about it just a little bit without
Speaker 1: having to, like, you know, break into the friend code.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, how does that happen?
Speaker 1: Like do you feel I mean the comfort obviously you
Speaker 1: love this person, because I'm gonna tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I feel like like an argument sometimes it's an expression
Speaker 1: of love where it's like it's worth it to express
Speaker 1: myself and and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna close
Speaker 1: the shutters and have this hard conversation to preserve the friendship.
Speaker 1: So like walk us through like maybe one time where
Speaker 1: it was like all right, boom, like Nazis like this
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work, or she had a Nazis this ain't
Speaker 1: gonna work for me moment that was like our first
Speaker 1: real moment where we had to have a whole card conversation.
Speaker 1: Like I'll tell y'all, shout out to my sister Stacy
Speaker 1: because we've been through it. And I was in the
Speaker 1: radio and Philly and me and Stacy were roommates living
Speaker 1: in the same home together, and one day she was
Speaker 1: riding in the car with her mother and listening to
Speaker 1: the radio, and she just happened to hear like his
Speaker 1: opinions on interracial dating. Yea, even though we've been friends
Speaker 1: for years, but I felt, you know, I was on
Speaker 1: my safe space on the radio to be like, listen,
Speaker 1: black love is it toney? And I probably went in
Speaker 1: in some way and she was a litt of shocks
Speaker 1: that when I came home and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what was that about? Was that wow? And that was
Speaker 1: a really hard conversation. Like then, it's it's it's led
Speaker 1: up to numerous conversations throughout the years, whether it be
Speaker 1: a Facebook post. But we disagree, but we have to
Speaker 1: just agree to disagree, you know, and she understands that,
Speaker 1: Like I just got it. Thankful black love. I love
Speaker 1: you though, and I love him too, and I see
Speaker 1: all of you know, that's that's dope. That's dope love.
Speaker 1: But I will have to say that again, this is
Speaker 1: a testament to the strength of friendship when it really exists.
Speaker 1: Because if if that's as raw as it was going
Speaker 1: to it was getting in that conversation, I'm gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 1: there is definitely a mutual love there. So I just
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I'm probably guilty of not quite being
Speaker 1: raw enough. Yeah, I believe, you know, just because I
Speaker 1: I tend to I tend to be worried about people's
Speaker 1: feelings and stuff like that, and sometimes if I feel
Speaker 1: somebody's intentions are really good, I try to kind of
Speaker 1: more so be like, oh, well the intention wasn't that
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But then what I will do is
Speaker 1: pull back. So it's like I just kind of would
Speaker 1: rather be in a safer space where I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I got a police it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: where it's like I don't really want to have to
Speaker 1: police my friendships, you know, And so it's kind of like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know. One of a situation that happened with me
Speaker 1: was like I was doing some work on an interview,
Speaker 1: like doing it like a little mini doctor, and I
Speaker 1: was interviewing one of my friends about the whole defund
Speaker 1: the police issue, and she had just lost a student
Speaker 1: of hers to gun violence, and she was like really
Speaker 1: still hurting and grieving, and she was doing a lot
Speaker 1: of work with the mother and everything like that, and Honey,
Speaker 1: when we were talking about defund the police, she kind
Speaker 1: of like not because whoever shot my student got to
Speaker 1: go to you know what I'm saying. Like she was
Speaker 1: going in about about violence and about police presidents and
Speaker 1: about having more police presidents and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: she and I had to have a little talk offline, like, sis,
Speaker 1: you do realize that that was your personal experience, but
Speaker 1: when you release the dogs on the whole community because
Speaker 1: of gun violence, what you're gonna ultimately see is something
Speaker 1: terrible happened to multiple young people. It is actually not
Speaker 1: going to improve the situation at all, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. In fact, it's gonna victimize you know, many
Speaker 1: more people. But I have that kind of conversation with
Speaker 1: my black friends, so to be a hundred of person, honest,
Speaker 1: I don't really think that that was simply because she
Speaker 1: was white. I just think she was just personally connected
Speaker 1: to a situation that made her politics you a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way. So that was probably one of the
Speaker 1: few times where I really had to be like, Sis, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the it like it's the second term. Well no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, sister, y'all, I don't asking. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. Girl, I do say girl, I say girls.
Speaker 1: I say I think I said, But then again I
Speaker 1: may have had woman maybe I see. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: that intention in that girl for me too, because if
Speaker 1: if a stranger calls me girl, you know, a white
Speaker 1: stranger woman calls me girl, I have to process and process.
Speaker 1: But in the South, my love, that thing gets thrown
Speaker 1: around like it's nothing, So you know, I have to process.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, did I feel anything under that? And
Speaker 1: if I did, then I have to to look around
Speaker 1: and you know, do what I do. I look around
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, how kind of you. I'm forty
Speaker 1: nine years old. I haven't been a girl for a
Speaker 1: long time, and typically that thing, you know, it squelches
Speaker 1: that energy, you know, and if and if another one
Speaker 1: pops up, then I'll say, it's fine to call me
Speaker 1: miss Scott. I'm I'm gonna need I'm gonna need only
Speaker 1: a sister, a familiar gay man, queer man, or uh yeah,
Speaker 1: a white girlfriend that I know that still says it
Speaker 1: with some type of tone that I've recognized. Well, what
Speaker 1: if it's what if it's your your white queer friend,
Speaker 1: male friend, Yeah, is he allowed? Well oh sis, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he can't call me sis, but maybe you can go.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can go. Girl. That's because maybe sister, sister
Speaker 1: is it feels different. It's not like sister, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's logistics. My my black friends have gone
Speaker 1: to calling me sister and friend, hi friend or hi
Speaker 1: sister like and I love it. Actually, I think it's
Speaker 1: actually kind of cool. But that yeah, it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's all about the and it's all about you, that
Speaker 1: person and that individual, right because it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: so where you raised and a very white populated town,
Speaker 1: and then you moved here and then you found blacks
Speaker 1: and now you talk with a little bit of twin
Speaker 1: twine or where is this where you were born and
Speaker 1: raised around and that's just how you talk because we
Speaker 1: got a lot of that. Uh yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: depends on the end of it. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: think of two white women who I would consider friends
Speaker 1: right now who just literally don't talk like that. They
Speaker 1: don't talk like that. They don't I mean they're married
Speaker 1: white men. I mean, they're not not that that. Really
Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me quite as much as I feel
Speaker 1: like it. They're married to white men. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: they weren't, I kind of feel like it doesn't bother
Speaker 1: me the same way that it does other black women.
Speaker 1: But because I just I don't think about it as much.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Can I just explain See, I
Speaker 1: feel like I should explain this. I'm the girl, although
Speaker 1: I'm I know, I'm the blackest hell friend. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I'm very attractive to white people, right and especially white women.
Speaker 1: So when I speak on my experience is I'm really
Speaker 1: regretting that whole dog thing that I did. But I
Speaker 1: need people to understand it. Like I'm the girl that
Speaker 1: when my girlfriend can the black man for the first time,
Speaker 1: she wanted to tell me, and she wanted to tell
Speaker 1: me how thick his lips were and like and how
Speaker 1: I mean like, I never I just never knew that,
Speaker 1: and so I had to what when Honestly, I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna lie to you. Had that been my background,
Speaker 1: I probably would feel the way you feel because, like
Speaker 1: I said, okay, had that been a situation that I
Speaker 1: had to deal with, I don't know. I think it
Speaker 1: would make me uncomfortable. Now I'm the person who gets
Speaker 1: a tink a tinge from being called this. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm that person, so I can imagine
Speaker 1: where that could be. But this is your girlfriend. She
Speaker 1: would be able to tell you how she's feel it,
Speaker 1: how she's feeling like that. You're supposed to be a
Speaker 1: safe space too, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh gosh, yes,
Speaker 1: but she can we just go to restaurants and eat?
Speaker 1: Can we just go eat? And I had to admit
Speaker 1: that if it were any any female in the universe
Speaker 1: and they came to me about talk, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about kissing the black man for the first time in
Speaker 1: the lips and softness of the lips, I would have
Speaker 1: to agree. Like it's not like she lying, Like like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's not a lot detectives. It's not a
Speaker 1: lot of detected It's not like they're a vibe. Is
Speaker 1: there a vibe where you feel like your white friends,
Speaker 1: male or female or other or whatever has to kind
Speaker 1: of meet a certain kind of political or social commitment,
Speaker 1: and like what does that look like for me? It
Speaker 1: means that you have you have a clear understanding that
Speaker 1: people are people for me from from that perspective black people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my perspective. I really love my culture. I love
Speaker 1: my variants and skin colors. I just love it that
Speaker 1: ship is fired to me. It's so beautiful to me.
Speaker 1: And the freckles and all the stuff that we could
Speaker 1: do with the red faces and in the green eyes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you listen, the list is long. I just
Speaker 1: love that we could make so many colors and in
Speaker 1: one family. Like, I think that's fantastic. Yes, truly, truly.
Speaker 1: You can't front on that at this point out Like,
Speaker 1: come on, h what are these kind of requirements like,
Speaker 1: do they have to be like out in the streets
Speaker 1: with the signs? Do they have to be like consistently? Now,
Speaker 1: that would be nice, But a lot of my black
Speaker 1: friends are not out in the streets with the signs
Speaker 1: hold on you. But they're black, and he's already dealing
Speaker 1: with being black. That's a full time job. As to
Speaker 1: the the the to the extreme right, to the are
Speaker 1: they out there marching for the people? Whatever? Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this question because I got mad with my
Speaker 1: white girlfriend who had she ain't listening, who had just
Speaker 1: kissed her black man for the first time, had told
Speaker 1: me that she had never seen a Spike Lee movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that you. How are
Speaker 1: you for me? I'm sorry not to be petty or
Speaker 1: maybe that's you know, but I feel like you as
Speaker 1: a white person that's wrapped in the culture. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't going a lot to you like. But then
Speaker 1: on the flip side, it's like you certain things you
Speaker 1: can't turn into, like these benchmarks, because that's the problem
Speaker 1: with a hell of liberal white people down They'll be like, look,
Speaker 1: I have seen every Spike Lee film. I'm prepared to
Speaker 1: be wide marched with Dr March with Dr King. God
Speaker 1: damn it, why it was. I was in the six
Speaker 1: hundred and forty second row, but I was with I
Speaker 1: watched the march from my office. But come on, y'all,
Speaker 1: not like, but but but if a black person saying
Speaker 1: they've never seen a Spike Lee movie, like I'm a
Speaker 1: balk at the black woman the white woman that they
Speaker 1: and all these black dudes and in the culture, like yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't how you ain't huh, but but but but
Speaker 1: but but does she necessarily have to be in the
Speaker 1: culture because quite friendship, Look, she's sucking that man. And
Speaker 1: I think I prefer when she's in her own ship.
Speaker 1: Be in your bag, mommy, be in your bag, me too.
Speaker 1: And I honestly feel like, for friendship's sake that somebody
Speaker 1: who is just secure in their own stuff, Like it's
Speaker 1: one thing. If you just enjoy culture, that's cool. Enjoying
Speaker 1: culture is perfect. It's like, it's great. We can have
Speaker 1: conversations about hip hop, we can have conversations about all
Speaker 1: kinds of different things that black folks do, because black
Speaker 1: folks do every damn thing. So it's like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: have lots of conversations about that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like, ultimately, I like when people just
Speaker 1: kind of secure and I like and generally for all
Speaker 1: my friends. I mean, now, I will say this, I
Speaker 1: have a tendency to be able to compartmentalize my black friends.
Speaker 1: So I don't have to talk politics with every single
Speaker 1: one of my black friends. I don't have to talk
Speaker 1: about certain things with my black girlfriends. Some big ship
Speaker 1: come up, like until if it's something that I feel
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be harmful to us as a whole,
Speaker 1: then we're gonna have a little learning moment if for
Speaker 1: some reason they double down on some stuff. Like if
Speaker 1: I if one of my girlfriends is just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know why I just went to go march to
Speaker 1: free r Kelly, then yeah, no, we're probably not going
Speaker 1: rock after that. Like we that's not with anybody after that, anybody,
Speaker 1: We're probably not gonna lock. But I'm saying, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're not even friends in the first place, likely you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So there is like a cut off.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like I feel like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just about language, right, So like if I'm talking to
Speaker 1: my white friends, it's certain things I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to explain. So I just feel like you just
Speaker 1: kind of have to have a certain baseline. If your
Speaker 1: baseline is not where we can have a conversation that
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm constantly educating you, then we're rocking.
Speaker 1: But if it's a constant, I gotta worry, I gotta
Speaker 1: correct you, I gotta got educate you. I gotta you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say that's fun. That's not even fun.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say this about and we talked
Speaker 1: about this about them between black folds and white folks.
Speaker 1: In the way black folks, you know most of everything,
Speaker 1: there is no about white folks, right, White folks admittedly
Speaker 1: don't really know about us. So if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: my friend, though, I'm gonna need you to be better
Speaker 1: than the average white person in that way because I
Speaker 1: know all about you. So when I bring up that
Speaker 1: Spike Lee thing, I'm only saying that because I've seen
Speaker 1: the club. I've seen pretty and pink. I sween I've
Speaker 1: seen secret of my success. I said, like, I've seen
Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm just saying I don't I
Speaker 1: can't get what you on that now. I mean that
Speaker 1: explanation brought it home from me. I ain't gonna that.
Speaker 1: That definitely brought it home for me because we do
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time just being inundated with their
Speaker 1: culture and we know it's so well and that's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's like like I know is I know,
Speaker 1: like come on, like don't like but you don't know.
Speaker 1: One Spike. I just saw her last week. She looked great.
Speaker 1: Yeah she does. She was yeah, whole girls. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: why not she so she was so damn beautiful, like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean she still is, and shout out
Speaker 1: to her. She was one of the first I guess,
Speaker 1: like Hollywood celebrities or whatever to to like really get
Speaker 1: behind me too and understand what it was about. Mind
Speaker 1: you and not my white girlfriend. Yeah she could. I
Speaker 1: believe that she would just a little bit. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, me trying to change her. Where's your
Speaker 1: white girlfriend in your head? That's a good question. Well
Speaker 1: I have a couple, mmm, because I'm whiter than y'all things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he come to truth, It comes to truth, opened up
Speaker 1: the box. Yeah, you got Jill famous, famous, so her
Speaker 1: her her friend, her head might actually be her. I'm
Speaker 1: only famous and a half face. And and I really
Speaker 1: I really like Chelsea Handler. See let's talk about you
Speaker 1: and her being girlfriends. Come on, I like her. Wait wait,
Speaker 1: because she is a great exact See that's the thing.
Speaker 1: She would be happy to get custed out by me
Speaker 1: and still call me the next like that type of
Speaker 1: girl who would be like, okay, bitch, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: But I feel like she's really want to have much
Speaker 1: to that. She's not scared of the ship. No, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's and that's and I like
Speaker 1: that you're not scared of the ship, like right right,
Speaker 1: But she didn't start talking crazy, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: she didn't start like acting like you know, Chelsea shan queen,
Speaker 1: don't you know the two l comments. But I ain't
Speaker 1: mat her because she Chelsea and she know how the
Speaker 1: word the motherfucker's you know, well, she is a comedian
Speaker 1: and she's I find her to be right. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's my that's my friend, crush, my girlfriend crush, you know,
Speaker 1: one of mine in my head. Even though she didn't
Speaker 1: get in a little bit of trouble every now to day,
Speaker 1: did she get real familiar because of her husband, But
Speaker 1: Ashley Ram Ashley Rab is one of my girlfriends in
Speaker 1: my hand. I actually have talked to her and the husband, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, is from DCPG County Home School, Like,
Speaker 1: oh but right now, oh you know Ashley? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a plus size model. She's white, yo something. It
Speaker 1: depends on the lighting, but she's definitely like from like
Speaker 1: Kentucky or Nebraska. Says so she's from Lincoln the breast. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And I also was impressed that her husband, when he
Speaker 1: met her too, he didn't know she was white. So
Speaker 1: I gave him that for free, Like, oh, okay, she
Speaker 1: gotta ask like a black girl. I can see you
Speaker 1: thought she was. You could have been a creo after
Speaker 1: I always thought she was a Latino. My bad. I
Speaker 1: don't know who you got agent? Who is Asian's white
Speaker 1: girlfriend in her head? Lord Jesus please sitting over here
Speaker 1: trying to think of who it is because I'm like,
Speaker 1: who is it? I was like, who is it? I'm
Speaker 1: going through my Instagram like who follow I was let
Speaker 1: me think I wanted Test Holiday? Who I follow? Testicize
Speaker 1: model Test Holiday. I'm always going for the B asan
Speaker 1: always on the B side. I like her energies Diane Keaton. Oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah that she could be fun if
Speaker 1: we're going into that age range. And I tell you
Speaker 1: my white girlfriend broke my heart and my great gir
Speaker 1: girl from my head who broke my heart? Yes, how
Speaker 1: did you know she broke who is it? Wait a minute, bet,
Speaker 1: because you know she is on my wall. I mean
Speaker 1: she kind of rolled it back, but I want to
Speaker 1: say that what she said was and she did. She
Speaker 1: said some other problematic stuff, but the first thing she
Speaker 1: did was she tweeted out that women are the niggers
Speaker 1: of the world and mind you, she mind you. This
Speaker 1: was a quote from Yoko Owner, which was also equally problematic.
Speaker 1: So the fact that she did not understand that the
Speaker 1: first time it was said it was some bullshit, and
Speaker 1: then she didn't tweeted it. Yeah, yeah, this is the danger. See,
Speaker 1: this is the danger. This is the danger that just
Speaker 1: that rocked me that, Oh I don't like it. You
Speaker 1: know what? I also like, really had a crush on
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton asked me to yeah, you like Dolly park
Speaker 1: to the Negroes for sure, though she ten that money
Speaker 1: and gave up. M hmm, well she does. She's doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. I went to her amusement park, which
Speaker 1: was very, very different as all amusement park goes. It's
Speaker 1: called Dollywood. It's in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. You know. Okay, So
Speaker 1: the rides are phenomenal. I will say that some of
Speaker 1: the best rides in the country, wrap real wrapping my mind.
Speaker 1: Her rides are faster than anything I've seen. They're great.
Speaker 1: But there's a museum inside of the yep, they have
Speaker 1: a working church. We'll say that there is a working church.
Speaker 1: There is some shout from happening in the church while
Speaker 1: people are having rides and waiting a line and eating
Speaker 1: stuff Southern delicacies. I only want. I don't know. They're like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. It's a Turkey leg type of place.
Speaker 1: Or it's like default of all seasons corn dogs. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't understand. I'm like, it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like you had COVID, like really like really everything everything.
Speaker 1: So she's still your girlfriend. Well, listen, this is where
Speaker 1: she lost me. I went to the museum. There's a
Speaker 1: gospel museum in the amusement park, and there was not
Speaker 1: a single black person in it. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I mean it was so bad that all I could
Speaker 1: do was laugh. I'm supposed to me, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: the gospel us girl, listen, ain't no Mahalia see that table.
Speaker 1: I would have you gotta laugh at that? She like,
Speaker 1: I would have busted out all my ass looking like
Speaker 1: an I kept walking around. I was like, this is ridiculous,
Speaker 1: Like it was ridiculous to me. I was like, are
Speaker 1: you serious right now? They ain't no one of the
Speaker 1: blind boys in Alabama like that. It's like, we ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing. There's no black people in here. Wowrefa Franklin
Speaker 1: ain't in here. Ain't even a refa, no a refa,
Speaker 1: not even my head, not even hell yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: even hand clapping. I couldn't. I could not find one.
Speaker 1: And that thing blew me. It blew me. I was
Speaker 1: so She said, maybe there's a culture of gospel that
Speaker 1: I've never heard of, or how could blue grass is
Speaker 1: happening here? What in the bluegrass? What in the course
Speaker 1: of these out football with us up? We'll be back
Speaker 1: after the break. I won't tell y'all want other lady
Speaker 1: that's in that tribe that I kind of mess with.
Speaker 1: She my girlfriend, she's been my girlfriend for thirty years.
Speaker 1: And her name is Cindy Lapper because you can always
Speaker 1: the pen. Yes, so here here's a here's a Cindy
Speaker 1: Lapper like like also parallel is um with Annie Lennox. Yes, children,
Speaker 1: Like when I tell you, I feel like that could
Speaker 1: that's definitely who I'm trying to have wine with on
Speaker 1: a on a Friday. You know what it is. I
Speaker 1: figured it out just now. They're they're white women, but
Speaker 1: they're also so fit. Oh yeah, we are doing that. Well.
Speaker 1: My my white lady is definitely a white lady. And
Speaker 1: she grew up, you know, um in a very very
Speaker 1: wealthy family, and you know she's experienced that lifestyle and
Speaker 1: she's you know, she's um not wealthy, but she's comfortable.
Speaker 1: You know it could be more so. She she wants dad,
Speaker 1: who doesn't we We we do our thrift shopping and
Speaker 1: we do our little spots and you know, I just
Speaker 1: I do really love it when we're out and she's like,
Speaker 1: black lady, look at this, look at this, And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, white lady, you should
Speaker 1: get that. You can I ask you about your white friend.
Speaker 1: Does your white lady friend? Um? Because I know, we
Speaker 1: talked about politics. This is always something that that burned
Speaker 1: me to Death's super political. So but does she know
Speaker 1: the difference between women's rights and black women's rights or
Speaker 1: just she just you know that it is an interesting
Speaker 1: to a point, I'm pretty sure she does. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure she's Okay. Well, I will say this, I've gone
Speaker 1: kind of close to really cool white woman who is lesbian,
Speaker 1: married with children. So we have a lot in common
Speaker 1: in terms of just like our life, the way we
Speaker 1: live our lives. And and I don't know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: just feel like white folks who who have experienced some
Speaker 1: kind of marginalization in their lives kind of have a
Speaker 1: bit of a different entrance point with me. And I
Speaker 1: feel like our conversations in terms of just like relatability,
Speaker 1: there's there's something in there that we can meet, even
Speaker 1: sometimes without talking about that specifically. There's a kind of
Speaker 1: a humility and a different type of thing that comes
Speaker 1: from having experienced some kind of marginalization in the world
Speaker 1: and society that we can kind of meet in that
Speaker 1: place and there's just an openness, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, and and and and
Speaker 1: this is not the downplay the fact that there's hell
Speaker 1: of racism within the LGBTQ community. So obviously just by
Speaker 1: virtue of being a lesbian doesn't mean she ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be no racist. But the point is that I will
Speaker 1: say that, like she and I have have an interesting
Speaker 1: kind of entrance point with each other, and generally speaking,
Speaker 1: like when we talk, I feel like we hear each other,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I don't have to
Speaker 1: go into the deep explanation about certain things, and she
Speaker 1: kind of has an empathy that empathy with with people
Speaker 1: that I admire, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 1: you know, it's not that she's never said anything to
Speaker 1: me that I felt like, oh, that was kind of
Speaker 1: typical and white of her to say, because she asked.
Speaker 1: But at the same time too, it's just like her
Speaker 1: general intention and her empathy always wins every time. Every
Speaker 1: interaction I've had with her has made me want to
Speaker 1: have another one. And so there are there's times when
Speaker 1: I'm like, as a friend, I feel like I'm careful
Speaker 1: to let her know when she's appreciated without talking myself
Speaker 1: out of it, because I feel like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: want to give her a white person cookie for just
Speaker 1: being a good person. But I'm like, no, we're friends.
Speaker 1: So when she does something that makes me feel when
Speaker 1: she does something that makes me feel seen, and she
Speaker 1: does something that makes me feel loved and care for,
Speaker 1: then I feel like I should tell her that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying side by side on my piano.
Speaker 1: Oh lord, why I've been thinking it for? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the type of minutes I've been thinking that
Speaker 1: I've been thinking it. I've been thinking to feel this
Speaker 1: microphone that sounds all good. It does sound that's that's
Speaker 1: really how me a white lady are? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like she is funny to us to crack
Speaker 1: up of them. I just want to hear out to
Speaker 1: each other. I will say this thought definitely letting her
Speaker 1: call you black lady in a white neighborhood, because I
Speaker 1: promise you, y'all, y'a ain't going down to the black
Speaker 1: folk letting her call you, no black lady, She go
Speaker 1: get up better. Not she's not gonna get back. She
Speaker 1: will say it because we're we're that. We are that
Speaker 1: with each other, Like there's no need for us to
Speaker 1: pretend to be something that we're not. We are I'm
Speaker 1: talking about other black people hearing her call you black lady,
Speaker 1: and they will hear me say, yeah, white lady, what
Speaker 1: you want, And then they're gonna say, oh, she talking
Speaker 1: to Jill Scott, so she must be cool. They like,
Speaker 1: because I was about to say because you're a black person,
Speaker 1: because I was about the same and hotly, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would not appreciate somebody else calling her white lady.
Speaker 1: That's not for you. That's us. That's that's us. We
Speaker 1: say that's our thing, and nobody else could call me
Speaker 1: black lady. I can't imagine any of your white girlfriend
Speaker 1: surprised you with a good old like like I want
Speaker 1: say pro black rent but or something that you you
Speaker 1: was gonna hop on, but she hopped on first. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, how oh yeah, because I
Speaker 1: didn't somebody that said the N word around my white girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And she's been like, what lit my white girlfriend she did?
Speaker 1: I mean she didn't quite get raucous. She got raucus
Speaker 1: in a white girl kind of way, but she didn't
Speaker 1: get like raucus with it. But like she she she'd
Speaker 1: be having her mind. She's always she's always thinking, and
Speaker 1: so her mind is like always going. So she was
Speaker 1: like a couple of times I missed like some meetings
Speaker 1: and some things that we were involved in because you know,
Speaker 1: I was like out of it at the time, and
Speaker 1: she called me. She was like, yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: should come to me, and I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: told you I wasn't coming out to this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff right now, and she was just like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: So like if you don't come, and I was like, so,
Speaker 1: she's won't be running. So it's like she's always thinking ahead,
Speaker 1: like since the room gonna be the room. So I
Speaker 1: feel like, so I like that she's always got her
Speaker 1: brain is always going because she's like because her main
Speaker 1: thing is this the room. She being the ultra ultra
Speaker 1: Lily as White, so her whole thing is like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna waste my place in this room. Right if
Speaker 1: I'm in the room, you're often to hear it. So
Speaker 1: I feel like like that that ship that warms my heart.
Speaker 1: So when I know she in there, when it's Lily Lily,
Speaker 1: and it's like, at least I know somebody's in there
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna let no dumb ship fly. That's an
Speaker 1: accomplice time and accomplish. What we said, the new Joy
Speaker 1: sound coompless, not an ally. Yeah, she's definitely accomplished, and
Speaker 1: she gonna know who she is when she when she
Speaker 1: listened to this, because I know she listens to the show.
Speaker 1: My other white women friends, they're Yeah, they're all so
Speaker 1: ful when I think about it, they're really connected to
Speaker 1: who they are. They love their family, they love their relationships.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're loving. They're loving people. Yeah, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know any because nobody wants to
Speaker 1: be around trash people no matter what. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be around no trash individual. And uh yeah, now let
Speaker 1: me ask you all this. Huh, y'all know how I go.
Speaker 1: You get you one good right white friend, but that
Speaker 1: don't mean they family. Oh girl, yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's listen. I don't have you ever been
Speaker 1: in a social situation with your good white white and
Speaker 1: they around a whole bunch of shady asks Ragley white,
Speaker 1: my good white she keep me away from that was
Speaker 1: family member. She let me know that they exist, and
Speaker 1: then she keep me wrong because she'd rather not be
Speaker 1: about but had white folks, basically telling all they raggedy
Speaker 1: white family listen to, just trying to figure I had
Speaker 1: a friend, and I really considered her a friend, Okay,
Speaker 1: and during that last election, this check. First of all,
Speaker 1: I have been I have been doing business with her
Speaker 1: for years. I was very loving towards her children, like
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Um. She was loving to me
Speaker 1: and mine and helpful in a lot of ways. And
Speaker 1: one day she posted something on Facebook and it was
Speaker 1: some real It was what what did she say? Police
Speaker 1: lives matter and black lives matter where? That's what she's
Speaker 1: Black lives matter where, That's what she said. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what, Okay, maybe maybe maybe she had posted
Speaker 1: it was some inner city situation where some something was
Speaker 1: shot something, and she posted that and said black lives
Speaker 1: matter where. And I was took me a second. I
Speaker 1: was like, way, okay, wait minute, let me see what
Speaker 1: she's trying to say. And it was like, let me
Speaker 1: just slow down and let me just try to understand
Speaker 1: what she's saying here. And this ship just got worse
Speaker 1: and worse with every post. I'm surprised, but that's why
Speaker 1: you go back in your mind over there real like
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And I know that I had come through
Speaker 1: for her. She she was in a situation and you know,
Speaker 1: needed to borrow something and I you know, blended to her.
Speaker 1: I was just I was like shocked and amazed that
Speaker 1: all of these years and in the majority of her
Speaker 1: business was black people. So that messages, that phone call
Speaker 1: and those text messages went real fast, real fast. She
Speaker 1: specifically she was a travel agent for most of the
Speaker 1: artists that we know about, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: and all of those all of that that those messages
Speaker 1: went around real was like stop glad. Of course, I'm
Speaker 1: not glad the tragedy, but I'm with her that stuff
Speaker 1: happened last No, I mean, I'm just yeah, because it
Speaker 1: brought a lot of people up to the surface so
Speaker 1: kind of needed to. There's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: work with black people and depending on black people for stuff,
Speaker 1: but they still don't work with black people in their life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we had a friend who who had come
Speaker 1: to the house. I hang do the right thing on
Speaker 1: the wall, and that's but that's what I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, it wasn't a genuine situation that Maddack,
Speaker 1: but it was all it was all the artists that
Speaker 1: she was working and getting her money, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean that maybe she had a relationship with all
Speaker 1: of us in that way, but when that ship hit
Speaker 1: the fans, that was definitely a stop and make phone calls.
Speaker 1: Do not use this to a studio apartment, but like
Speaker 1: you get yourself a ticket to where you're going, and
Speaker 1: that side of my business, like, ma'am, you you do
Speaker 1: know that we're following you where all your clients? You
Speaker 1: did do know that? More conversation after this break. I
Speaker 1: have a friend who ended a friendship because so when
Speaker 1: she was really close to the husband was really on
Speaker 1: that type time. So the girl was cool, but her
Speaker 1: husband was on Facebook going in and she's like, I
Speaker 1: care about you since but like, I can't do it
Speaker 1: in that situation. I can't do it. And honestly, like
Speaker 1: it made me think about a lot of things because
Speaker 1: I mean, me and my husband Donna share all the
Speaker 1: same politics, so I try to think about that, like, well,
Speaker 1: how would that feel like if somebody was like And again,
Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting because like in my family,
Speaker 1: a lot of times, if you're my friend, most people
Speaker 1: who are my friends end up me and my friends,
Speaker 1: and then my friends become their friend, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they get interfilled, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like, so I always think about
Speaker 1: the whole idea of like when you have white friends,
Speaker 1: Like I said, how deep, how deep can you get
Speaker 1: embedded into their life because it just for them is
Speaker 1: but so far you can go before you find the racist,
Speaker 1: before you find the person just problematic. And it's like
Speaker 1: and I think that that that poses a really like
Speaker 1: unique situation with black folk when they're really trying to
Speaker 1: be friend white people. You know what I'm saying, Girl,
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell I wish I could tell
Speaker 1: y'all this story about a white person that had been
Speaker 1: implanted in my life. The uh. And in the beginning,
Speaker 1: everything was sweet. I was, that's cool, we didn't do that,
Speaker 1: We're cool. And then there were a couple of little
Speaker 1: things like at one time you thought we were in
Speaker 1: an in another room and I heard you talking to
Speaker 1: your friend on the phone and you was like, my nigga,
Speaker 1: and like you apologize for that, and you tearfully apologize
Speaker 1: for that, and that was great, but okay, that was
Speaker 1: like one for me. And then it was another time
Speaker 1: when you you came and you wanted to spend time
Speaker 1: on Juneteenths and on you. I just I can't even tell.
Speaker 1: I wish I could too much. I wish I could share.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to get in trouble. But it's
Speaker 1: just too much. That's why I don't know. That's something
Speaker 1: about being able to separate rate your white friend and
Speaker 1: just have a friendship outside of talking about race and
Speaker 1: all of that other stuff. I know some people kind
Speaker 1: of believe in that, but after experiencing the little small
Speaker 1: experience that I only gave you all a taste stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I want to be
Speaker 1: comforable and to talk to you about everything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to feel like all tight in my shoulders when
Speaker 1: something come up or a news story come up on
Speaker 1: the TV and we're both watching it, and it's like
Speaker 1: I don't want that, like even worse feeling an embarrassing
Speaker 1: moment where it was me. I was talking to my
Speaker 1: my black girlfriend and she was at her at her
Speaker 1: very very sweet they're so funning, sweet, sweet loving family.
Speaker 1: She was over their house chilling with them, and I
Speaker 1: was on speaker and I didn't know it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know how they smell when
Speaker 1: they wet. It was but wait, she's black. But let
Speaker 1: me just like a girlfriend is black and very close friends.
Speaker 1: They know they weren't in laws and friends and she
Speaker 1: loves them and I know why because they're they're truly nice, sweet.
Speaker 1: Somebody would just have a black to black moment. But
Speaker 1: but let me just say this. I will say this,
Speaker 1: but I felt terrible. White people who are really close
Speaker 1: to black people know that joke. Okay, they mean I
Speaker 1: like it, They know it. That's that's the way to
Speaker 1: test that they know that we say it. You know,
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know. I wanted to know what
Speaker 1: do we smell like to them? Food? Why did I
Speaker 1: just I'm so ignorant because I just thought about my
Speaker 1: food and cocoa girlfriend, And every time I just always
Speaker 1: thought of food and cocoa butter. That's what we smell
Speaker 1: on Did you ask this or is it your g this?
Speaker 1: This is honestly, I've never a lie to you. When
Speaker 1: I go for a black people's house, that's what I smell.
Speaker 1: You smell food and cookle butter or or some sort
Speaker 1: of fragrance that is linked to a natural substanibrease. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hair grease, anything to have like a natural oil or
Speaker 1: like whatever whatever. But I don't smell that when I
Speaker 1: go over. This is terrible. I don't smell that though
Speaker 1: I didn't. Okay, okay, okay, okay, let let me let's see.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I mean, I'm just speaking. I'm just
Speaker 1: speaking honestly. No, No, I'm seriously, I'm speaking honestly. But
Speaker 1: let me just say this again. I speak from a
Speaker 1: very limited thing because I've not gotten but so close
Speaker 1: to any person that's really that close in my adult life. Now,
Speaker 1: in my family, many of my cousins have married white women.
Speaker 1: My other cousin married a white man. I have a
Speaker 1: cousin who was adopted who was white. So his wife
Speaker 1: was a little bit like blown away when she came
Speaker 1: to my mother's funeral, and and and there was not
Speaker 1: a single day was the only did you say? Did
Speaker 1: you say? Not to cut you off, friend, but did
Speaker 1: you just say? I have black people, and I have
Speaker 1: white people in my some of my friends. I have
Speaker 1: white people in my family. I am familiar with the
Speaker 1: white I do. I am with the whites and I'm
Speaker 1: only saying. I'm only say with white people, they have
Speaker 1: been very best to me, and they have not smelled
Speaker 1: at all. I've never had an inkling of a But
Speaker 1: y'all do ship. But let's just say to be specific
Speaker 1: that there it's now, it's not it's white people and
Speaker 1: black people, it's it's people that poverty has a scent.
Speaker 1: You can bring us back. Smells like me black poverty. God, no, Jill,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop you sure you want to do this,
Speaker 1: you want to do this? Don't say it. Don't don't
Speaker 1: say it smells like syrup. If it's not black poverty
Speaker 1: smells like syrup. Have you ever met like a kid
Speaker 1: that smells like syrup? Like, guy here, you not take
Speaker 1: a bath like the syrup is like corn syrup because
Speaker 1: it's in a lot of cheaper foods. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's coming out. Of course. Anyway, we have, we veered,
Speaker 1: we have veered. Let's turn back, okay, and again right now,
Speaker 1: thank you for being a friend. Yeah, we've traveled down.
Speaker 1: You pulled me, You pulled me back from some foolishness
Speaker 1: that I don't even need. Yeah, we got that's what
Speaker 1: you need. A good say that got you boom? Can
Speaker 1: she say boom? I like a boo with with the
Speaker 1: with the with the high end. Got you VI? I'm
Speaker 1: good with though. That's why I know it's bad. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm look, God is not through with you. That's true.
Speaker 1: What I will say is this, I will consider I
Speaker 1: can't care. We consider Janis Johnson in the front of
Speaker 1: the show because she was on the show and we
Speaker 1: loved it. So so j this talk to me about
Speaker 1: diverse friend groups, right, one thing? And I know this
Speaker 1: has come up a lot. No, this has come up
Speaker 1: a lot. Now, this has come up a lot like
Speaker 1: here recently, where it comes to like black folk when
Speaker 1: you're doing things and you need a certain kind of
Speaker 1: support black folks. Being black is a full time engagement, okay,
Speaker 1: and some things you just don't need to go to
Speaker 1: your black friends for, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I think there's there's becoming a better conversation around how
Speaker 1: you support black people in your life, whether they're close
Speaker 1: to you or whether they're just black folks who you
Speaker 1: know exist. And I will say that in terms of
Speaker 1: friendship is concerned like yeah, if I'm raising money for something, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask everybody that I know, but I also
Speaker 1: try to think about like, Okay, listen, am I gonna
Speaker 1: go ask black folks that already got a million things
Speaker 1: already happened in their lives. I'm gonna ask these white
Speaker 1: folks who's making three times what I make? No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: this is this is a real conversation. That's how you
Speaker 1: and busy. But okay, the white folks is they got
Speaker 1: time and there's money. I'm not saying black folks not
Speaker 1: getting money. Listen, I'm not saying that black folks not
Speaker 1: out here getting money. What I'm saying is everywhere a
Speaker 1: black person is getting money, a white person getting three
Speaker 1: folk times. Now that's the true. Okay, I'm with you now.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, Okay, when you got things
Speaker 1: you're trying to get done and things that are particularly
Speaker 1: things that are going to improve a black person's life
Speaker 1: name of your own first, but it also other people
Speaker 1: around you, because you know we're givers, then you need
Speaker 1: to start going to your white friends. And if you
Speaker 1: don't have no white friends, then guess what you're doing
Speaker 1: putting the burden back on black people. So befriend white
Speaker 1: people so that they can do what they need to
Speaker 1: do because they because not what you were saying that
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It sounds tactical. I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at it's but it's also shooting from them. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody can say I'm another, but even in that other
Speaker 1: and it's it's just another, just different level. It's just
Speaker 1: not the same. Jim wants to keep it organic. Hands up.
Speaker 1: Choose your friends wisely. Friends, Choose regardless of regardless of
Speaker 1: what color they are, and because of what color they are,
Speaker 1: choose your friends very, very wisely. Make sure that they
Speaker 1: benefit your life and that they're not sucking the juice
Speaker 1: and the marrow out of your bones. Yeah, let them,
Speaker 1: let them be of service to you and let you,
Speaker 1: you know, be a be a blessing to them too.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time for the bullshit, not even a
Speaker 1: little bit. Thank you so much for listening to Jay
Speaker 1: dot Ilda podcast. I hope you enjoyed our conversation today.
Speaker 1: I did, I really did. Hi. If you have comments
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