Speaker 1: Welcome to j dot Il, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: What's Up? Everybody of This is Jill Scott's, Ada, Graydon
Speaker 1: Danceler and la Ea st Clair. We're just giving all
Speaker 1: our governments, you know what I'm saying. And this is
Speaker 1: j dot il the podcast. We are gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about what's wrong with them? What's wrong with them? That
Speaker 1: means we are confounded. Yes, you perplexed if you will, confused? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah about work that well it going on here. I'm
Speaker 1: about throwing bewildered. Bewildered, Yeah, go ahead and throw and
Speaker 1: bewilder only these things. It's a deep eyebrow forehead crease,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a deep one for me.
Speaker 1: You know, just deep y'all know that feeling when that
Speaker 1: when that first part, Yeah, when you have to when
Speaker 1: you don't understand so bad you gotta open your mouth
Speaker 1: and saying that he turned you get turned your head
Speaker 1: to the side and you open your mouth like when
Speaker 1: you get that something stink look on your face or
Speaker 1: when you can't finish that. I just just yeah, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with him? Um, here's one I am thoroughly confused by.
Speaker 1: By exceptionally long nails. I gotta go ahead, go ahead
Speaker 1: and jail if you say um. Because I had some
Speaker 1: nails once and clipped a friend, okay, a dear trusted
Speaker 1: friend that I love so very much, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm never going to get those sharp nails again. I
Speaker 1: don't want an a coutrement that's gonna change my life.
Speaker 1: You hear me, because when you say you clipped, when
Speaker 1: you say you clipped them, three yeah, what did that mean?
Speaker 1: You clipped them? Like my girlfriend? I hurt my friend.
Speaker 1: I heard my couchick, I heard with those long nails,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't understand how anybody. I'm confused,
Speaker 1: Like how does anybody wipe well? I was thinking that
Speaker 1: with the stilettos. Have you seen a still? I don't
Speaker 1: have myself worn a still? Little set? Many a town
Speaker 1: you have, I have helped me. We just tell you.
Speaker 1: I got into this full set lifestyle the last year
Speaker 1: off of my thirties because I was like, here, I here,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine years old. I have never had a
Speaker 1: full set, and oh my god, that was a problem. Yes, yes, right, okay,
Speaker 1: you get how I got there, right, But once I
Speaker 1: got there, oh my god, I got addicted. I was
Speaker 1: picking up pictures. I was sending pictures to my nail tech,
Speaker 1: old boot, can you do this? Can you do that?
Speaker 1: And they got longer and longer. Now I've never been
Speaker 1: at CARDI level. No, never done that. However, I have
Speaker 1: learned how to get a very good wipe out. You
Speaker 1: have to pad so yes, it doesn't doesn't only cost
Speaker 1: you money with the nail tech, but it also cost
Speaker 1: you money in toilet paper. And then you also have
Speaker 1: to be concerned about the environment as well, because you
Speaker 1: don't want a situation right. But you have to pad
Speaker 1: the hand, wrap it around the hand several times, yes,
Speaker 1: several times around the hand, right, and then you just
Speaker 1: have to do a swipe, several extra swipes to make
Speaker 1: sure nothing is left. Have you ever knicked yourself the
Speaker 1: beginnings before you in the very beginnings, I did nick.
Speaker 1: No blood. No, there was no injury involved. But there
Speaker 1: was a quick nick. Yes, there was a quick nick.
Speaker 1: But I gained was that wonderful feeling when you're explaining
Speaker 1: some ship and your nails are long. Ah, there's no
Speaker 1: feeling like the hand when the hand gestures are going
Speaker 1: and you're like and there's something about the way, the
Speaker 1: bitch comes out when your hands up, when your nails
Speaker 1: are long, bitch, because what had happened? You opening open closure?
Speaker 1: Because there and then when you get very upset you
Speaker 1: get with the clapping and the nails are long. I
Speaker 1: can tell you where a tap at you when you
Speaker 1: want them to. Just that love is tapping pointing out
Speaker 1: some ship when you got your nails. Let's see that
Speaker 1: right there. I most definitely was. I would love to
Speaker 1: to use it as a as as a way to
Speaker 1: explain many things. It's a lot of things that we
Speaker 1: as women go through and I am. I tried it
Speaker 1: and it just didn't work out. For let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Can I bring up a subject that I was so
Speaker 1: surprised that you two didn't ride with me on them
Speaker 1: And y'all was like, what's wrong with y'all women that
Speaker 1: do this kind of stuff? Yea about two. I know
Speaker 1: exactly what you're about to say, because all like, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with them? How can you even try to teach
Speaker 1: your stuff? Wax? What's wrong with y'all that you don't
Speaker 1: get your stuff? Wax? Lights? Liyah? I saw lights, I
Speaker 1: heard a sound, and I I left the building. My
Speaker 1: spirit said no, no, and I left with half a
Speaker 1: coach because on the first rip you left. On the
Speaker 1: first the first rip, I tears jumped out of my eyes.
Speaker 1: I saw lights, I heard a sound, and I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, this is not for me. There are many
Speaker 1: ways skin a cat, ha ha. But on many ways
Speaker 1: to skin a cat, and I know how to do
Speaker 1: that's not the way your cat is getting skinned. I
Speaker 1: can't do that. I just not. There are many roads
Speaker 1: to the same destination with razor bumpage on the way
Speaker 1: back here, y'all. I don't feel that there's anything wrong
Speaker 1: per se with doing it. It doesn't work for me.
Speaker 1: I have done it several times. I gave it a
Speaker 1: second round because I believe in set and chances they
Speaker 1: and so I did give it a second chance. But
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you, that's what that sound was.
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow. I no, no, ma'am, no, ma'am no, sir.
Speaker 1: We can do a lot of things that I can
Speaker 1: make designs and all kinds of things, but I cannot.
Speaker 1: I cannot. I'm so sorry. I'll just need a good
Speaker 1: sugar wax to put you in the field of position
Speaker 1: and rip got from behind. I'm gonna tell you it
Speaker 1: ain't nothing like it. That sounds like lucy to me.
Speaker 1: I won't say this. The first time that I wore
Speaker 1: a nice summer dress and the rafter that's that first
Speaker 1: little breeze on. Oh yeah, it was heaven. That's how
Speaker 1: I got the second chance. That's why I gave it
Speaker 1: the second chance. Yeah, that first breeze that got to
Speaker 1: her after that, So I throw that What wrong with them?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with them? At y'all? Yeah? It was okay,
Speaker 1: So what's wrong with what's wrong with me? I just no, ma'am, No, sir,
Speaker 1: I've been hit by a car before. I did not,
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy that either, and I would like to
Speaker 1: avoid that as well. Yeah, I don't that to be
Speaker 1: your comparison. I'm sorry, Jill, I'm sorry. I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: I have a high threshold for pain, but not for bullshit,
Speaker 1: like there's another way to do this, and if the
Speaker 1: other way takes a little longer, and then of course,
Speaker 1: if you're using neat or nair or something like that,
Speaker 1: you definitely have to soak with it because it's not pleasant.
Speaker 1: It's not a pleasant smell, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It takes a while to get rid of that smell.
Speaker 1: So you don't want any parts of that, So you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta plan, you know, a couple of days ahead
Speaker 1: of time. Yea. For those of us who are of
Speaker 1: the you know, rounder and softer sort, definitely had moments
Speaker 1: where I've had to incorporate the husband into the activities. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I need you to make sure that I've gotten
Speaker 1: all that needs to be gotten and all that needs
Speaker 1: to just a little just you know, inspector number thirty seven.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Listen, they make all kinds
Speaker 1: of little new gadgets and hoopity, who's they got at
Speaker 1: that um that has a what you call it on it?
Speaker 1: It's razor on one half and the other half is
Speaker 1: a is a like a mechanical razor like ah, like
Speaker 1: four clippers that was to shape up so it's a
Speaker 1: razor on one side and clippers on the other. That
Speaker 1: is all waterproof. I mean, there's options. I I understand
Speaker 1: a nice neatly cared for space. Y'all just gave me
Speaker 1: another one's wrong with and based on that, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with them? That they always want to use the the
Speaker 1: clippers on your stuff? Here? Yea? They had a man
Speaker 1: be like, let me kick you up. What's wrong with them?
Speaker 1: I like that. That's some mice time. I like. I
Speaker 1: like the blowing part, you know when when they didn't
Speaker 1: like a little the extra hair. I like that part.
Speaker 1: That's small. I just think it's weird women asking that, like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's wrong with it? You don't like my shape?
Speaker 1: You don't like just a natural shape? I think I
Speaker 1: think that's quite pleasant. That's a nice it's a nice
Speaker 1: afternoon movie. I'm going to step out of this particular conversation.
Speaker 1: I have a person in my life who has not
Speaker 1: signed the papers to release this information. There, you know. Therefore,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave that. One must protect
Speaker 1: the innocent. The innocent must be protected. That's even a
Speaker 1: halfway innocent, because you know, right, but everybody knows we nasty.
Speaker 1: Let's just keep it there. M not like that about you.
Speaker 1: You do as well? Yeah, I'm like that. I told you.
Speaker 1: I get it from watching jail Nasty girls. Okay girls,
Speaker 1: you okay, outside of the nasty round note one war,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with them? Because this is the COVID was
Speaker 1: wrong with him? And I've been feeling this late. What's
Speaker 1: wrong with them? That you got your mask on, but
Speaker 1: it's like not on your nose, it's underneath, like what
Speaker 1: you think? What's what you think you're doing right there?
Speaker 1: If those are holes, those are two holes that it's
Speaker 1: coming out and it's going in. What's what the people
Speaker 1: walking the mask only on the mouth and not the nose.
Speaker 1: I just I need you to change what's wrong with them?
Speaker 1: The change at this point is it a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people a day? But maybe in the world state were
Speaker 1: the last time I saw MSNBC, it was a thousand
Speaker 1: people and a thousand people day. We're done a thousand
Speaker 1: people a day. We're dying COVID. Imagine if a thousand
Speaker 1: puppies died people, Oh no, everyway wrong with these dog owners.
Speaker 1: The world would be shut dolls. I'm just saying if
Speaker 1: it were puppies, m cute, little furry, fuzzy puppies, they
Speaker 1: ain't even got to bet that that's the truth. They
Speaker 1: can be raggedy ass dogs were there. Since we're talking
Speaker 1: about we were talking about dogs a little bit. I
Speaker 1: want to understand what's wrong with the dog owners that
Speaker 1: let their dogs pissing poop in the park that where
Speaker 1: the children are supposed to play, and then they don't
Speaker 1: clean up after you. I don't understand that. Oh girl,
Speaker 1: let me tell you and get upset in my neighborhood
Speaker 1: what they like to do. And me and the husband
Speaker 1: lay in wait for him. They like to come in
Speaker 1: front your house to hear me and I live in
Speaker 1: the city. They like to come in front your house.
Speaker 1: And that little patch of grass that be on the
Speaker 1: other side of the sidewalk, they think that's not your
Speaker 1: dad go on property. No, that's my property. And then
Speaker 1: you let you a nasty dog poop right there, and
Speaker 1: then you keep you look what They look around because
Speaker 1: they know they're wrong. They look around because they know
Speaker 1: they're wrong. And me and the team loved to open
Speaker 1: the window. Don't let them see your face. You opened
Speaker 1: the window. Make sure you pick that up and they jump,
Speaker 1: they jump up. They don't know where the voice is
Speaker 1: coming from. I had it, No you didn't. You didn't
Speaker 1: have it, steaming pile of ship, that ship in front
Speaker 1: of my house, Heather, yo, because I just that's a
Speaker 1: that's a real problem in the city. And what Asian said,
Speaker 1: don't let it go lightly. People that little strip of
Speaker 1: land in between the street and the sidewalk. Like she said,
Speaker 1: it's the part the houses. That's their ship, that's their tree,
Speaker 1: that's still tree in their grass. That's right, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mother had to move out of the city because
Speaker 1: there was too many I'm sorry, but gentrification brings white
Speaker 1: people and dogs. Let's just keep it absolutely funky. And
Speaker 1: as my mother likes to say, dogs bring rats because
Speaker 1: rats like to eat ship. And I'm not gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: just make do the numbers to do the man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave the rats eat ship. Do that. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what my mama said. And that's that's a bad mom.
Speaker 1: That's what girl. I don't know. I'm listening. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: listening to Karema find out. I mean, I'm a google at.
Speaker 1: I have a what's wrong with him? Mom? What's wrong
Speaker 1: with him? Is? What is wrong with those girls who
Speaker 1: do their eyebrows but they look like they're marking out
Speaker 1: information on a document. It looked like a whole full sharpie,
Speaker 1: like a whole sick you said, they like a redaction
Speaker 1: with it looked like a redaction. Yes, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 1: Like it's okay to have a natural brow. I'm good
Speaker 1: with brows. I think all those brows have been around
Speaker 1: since the seventies, sixties. Really, those brows that was the thing.
Speaker 1: Some people just haven't let it go. I'm glad they're
Speaker 1: not skinny no more. I'm glad we out to that phase. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't like skinny either. But these ones, these ones
Speaker 1: are are in tents, you know, being on stage. Like eyebrows,
Speaker 1: they do it help to express from a distance, You
Speaker 1: get to see the person's What about the people that
Speaker 1: don't be on stage for a living is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everybody looks like they're on stage. We're living and everything.
Speaker 1: Everybody is like a home to me, everybody looks like
Speaker 1: a hole. Listen, you can't say I dropped it. I
Speaker 1: am shafe. You don't need to say, like where you
Speaker 1: are hot. I watched black exploitation films growing up. Okay,
Speaker 1: I watched black exploitation films now, and who was dressed
Speaker 1: like a whole looks like everybody everywhere most of the time. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not calling you out. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you a whole. I mean with your own pussy boo.
Speaker 1: I don't care the sures I don't care. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is there's a look. It's a seventies style prostitute
Speaker 1: on the street, look and making fashion. Most folks getting
Speaker 1: dressed up and going out now look like it looks
Speaker 1: like a hole to me with a whole one in
Speaker 1: sequenced skirt at the squitchy one stretch, I for one
Speaker 1: miss whole fashion in my life. Who is this no
Speaker 1: reason you have to stop? It really isn't. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't understand, sir, you pull that skirt. I need to
Speaker 1: reconnect with my whole fashions? All right? Well, what else
Speaker 1: is wrong with him? But what's wrong with though? I
Speaker 1: got got one the old forty five? I can't figure
Speaker 1: out for the life of me, Like, who, seriously, seriously,
Speaker 1: who doesn't know that? There? Orange? How? How do you
Speaker 1: not see that you are not a human color? How
Speaker 1: do you not know that? Jill? The level of denial
Speaker 1: of that man is like monumental record breaking, as he
Speaker 1: would like to say, never been done before, like this,
Speaker 1: Oh my amazing. I'm just saying, like at that point
Speaker 1: when you're in the Tanning booth, right and you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go check the progress, right, and
Speaker 1: you go out there and the color has gone from
Speaker 1: you know, quite quite quite to actual uh birth Sienna. Right,
Speaker 1: there's no point in which you're like, you know what
Speaker 1: this is, this is the goal? This is it? How
Speaker 1: how is it color blindness? Because people, you know, people
Speaker 1: are peachy colors. You know, people are peach. There's some
Speaker 1: golden there, there's you know, there's some, but the orange
Speaker 1: is not a human color. I saw a girl on
Speaker 1: a television show the other day, I think it's called
Speaker 1: the Christie's and that baby was orange too, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: that's of my goodness. How that you don't know that
Speaker 1: you're orange? I think you don't care, Jill. I think
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody walks down the aisle like a
Speaker 1: sir that orange is looking great on you today, this level.
Speaker 1: You need to keep it right there, like, no, he
Speaker 1: doesn't care. I think it's the same thing when the
Speaker 1: people get the plastic surgery and it's like you're not blinking,
Speaker 1: You're not you're not blinking, you're not you're not smiling,
Speaker 1: you're not smizing, you're not anything, you know, So I
Speaker 1: think that's the same kind of vibe there. I think
Speaker 1: people go in thinking that they're going to improve something
Speaker 1: they don't like and they just don't know when to stop.
Speaker 1: But in this particular person and his issues, that he
Speaker 1: is delusional. I mean, I don't want to be an
Speaker 1: armchair psychiatrist, but let's just keep it one. He's been
Speaker 1: accused of delusions of bran and all of that, and
Speaker 1: it's something about that like with the with the with
Speaker 1: the cosmetic surgery, and I know that forty five hasn't
Speaker 1: had any of that. But but wait, since we're on
Speaker 1: the what's wrong with them? I saw something. It looked
Speaker 1: like the lady had literally taken out at least four ribs,
Speaker 1: and I thought, your body can't sustain uh, the kind
Speaker 1: of of weight that goes on a body, or or
Speaker 1: or walking with with your ribs. Your ribs are there
Speaker 1: for a reason, you know, like you or it just
Speaker 1: seems to go. I said, I've seen a lady with
Speaker 1: a whole kitchen sink in her backside. But but don't
Speaker 1: we have there There there is an actual there's an
Speaker 1: actual condition that goes along with this that really may
Speaker 1: have some might be related on some level to like
Speaker 1: eating disorders or people who still believe themselves to be overweight,
Speaker 1: but they're not. So it's likea so, yeah, where the
Speaker 1: thing is. That doesn't really matter what you see. It
Speaker 1: is kind of how they interpreted what they see. So
Speaker 1: this is that that. I mean, that's a real thing.
Speaker 1: It just so happens that you can have that and
Speaker 1: still be a whole entire I keep thinking you're saying, ho,
Speaker 1: a whole entire, A whole, a whole entire. Hello are
Speaker 1: you wow? That was a beautiful defense as I don't
Speaker 1: think that's why people got bathroom things in their booties.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's because they got body dysmorphia. Especially yeah,
Speaker 1: I have. I've been having issues with that lately. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: as the black woman's body continues, Well, you know we're
Speaker 1: if we're going there, but we're not. Obviously venus hot
Speaker 1: and tought Sarah Bartman. You know, it was a big
Speaker 1: influence on the world, whether or not society wants to
Speaker 1: claim her um to be uh taken prisoner and her
Speaker 1: body shown the way that it was um and too.
Speaker 1: I guess what they prostituted her as well. M say
Speaker 1: her name again, Jill Sarah Bartman. Sarah Bartman. I think
Speaker 1: like especially those who are manipulating their bodies to be
Speaker 1: just like hers, and then what a proud, crazy circle
Speaker 1: of now that the other races has figured it out,
Speaker 1: now we're chasing them and we it's just I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I know that's a side. No, yeah, because I was
Speaker 1: gonna I was actually gonna bring that up because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Yeah, well, what we have is this
Speaker 1: obsessive and um culture that says, oh, I wanna I
Speaker 1: want to look like a black woman, but I only
Speaker 1: want to look like a black woman. That I feel
Speaker 1: is this, uh, this exaggerated version in my mind, even
Speaker 1: though we all we exist in all of these different
Speaker 1: ways in real time, but they're interested it and the
Speaker 1: one that feels, you know, exaggerated. So it's like everything
Speaker 1: that people are that they say they want to do,
Speaker 1: then we come behind them and we we hate it.
Speaker 1: We don't want to be associated with it. Black people
Speaker 1: wanna we want to disassociate ourselves with anything that feels
Speaker 1: and looks black, particularly around black beauty. Until white wade.
Speaker 1: White people they accepted and wanted and do everything that
Speaker 1: they can to be associated with it. But I see
Speaker 1: that with black culture with women period, because even stuff
Speaker 1: that we grew up here. Oh that's ghetto. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Then it ends up one, you know, at in fashion week,
Speaker 1: and suddenly we wanted to because you start seeing it
Speaker 1: amongst black elite women, black women who would never wear
Speaker 1: bamboo earrings, black women who would never wear braids, who
Speaker 1: would do everything they could to assimilate. But suddenly they
Speaker 1: see it on the runway and now it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm black, and the black I'm black. But that
Speaker 1: was hood and ghetto two years ago. You didn't want
Speaker 1: to be associated with that. I think it's a little
Speaker 1: backward to I mean, you know, I know he wasn't
Speaker 1: talking about that though, but but we're talking about what's
Speaker 1: wrong with them. Well, that's white supremacy, that's what's wrong
Speaker 1: with them. Yeah, that is you don't want my blues.
Speaker 1: You want my rhythm, but you want my blues. That's right.
Speaker 1: So you see a lot of Caucasian people with this
Speaker 1: very very strange, strange color. And for that matter, we're
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of African people or people sended of Africa.
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of them bleaching their skin and
Speaker 1: it's that pinky color. It's a weirdy, pinky more color.
Speaker 1: What is it? It's very very strange, and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure out my knee. Like when that that skin
Speaker 1: looked like right there, it's not even that color. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's very strange. It's a little bit more, it's
Speaker 1: a little more mad. It's a little dusty. It's a
Speaker 1: rosy kind of like my water jug, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like a rosy, peachy, creamy color.
Speaker 1: That's when you pull a scab off to so, okay,
Speaker 1: I got you. Something is you know, there's there's definitely
Speaker 1: do think that America has a problem with overall dysmorphia,
Speaker 1: you know, be not being able to see what, you know,
Speaker 1: what's really happening, you know, far as bleaching the skin
Speaker 1: or or or Caucasian people being orange. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot of mean well, we I hate to
Speaker 1: we literally it's going to always come back to this.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the whole series uh uh that
Speaker 1: Kenya Barris just did and every single show was because
Speaker 1: of slavery. We're just gonna come right back to the
Speaker 1: same thing. It's anti blackness. It's a worldwide problem and issue,
Speaker 1: and so that right there has all of these different
Speaker 1: little spokes to it, and you're gonna find those things.
Speaker 1: It's so yeah, the dysmorphia part of it, just like
Speaker 1: anything else that doesn't only exist within the within the
Speaker 1: sphere of anti blackness, but it's definitely a part of it.
Speaker 1: You can see that as a tool or as a
Speaker 1: little spoke on that wheel, because it's like, it's just
Speaker 1: like anything else. They're gonna have an issue with something.
Speaker 1: It's you're gonna you're gonna believe a lie for so
Speaker 1: long that it just feels normal. It just feels like
Speaker 1: it's just normalized. Oh well, this is just the way
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be. There's nothing wrong with us,
Speaker 1: We're just we're behaving normally. You just kind of normalize
Speaker 1: this weird obsession hatred thing that people have. And I
Speaker 1: I can't I don't see where that's gonna change if
Speaker 1: we don't address you know, the granddaddy, If you don't
Speaker 1: address the big problem, I don't see how we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to the little problem and we just take our
Speaker 1: features back. Can we just get that or at least
Speaker 1: get our credit. That's where I was. I'm on just
Speaker 1: the basic like I would like I would like I
Speaker 1: would like small respect. I think that'd be nice. We'll
Speaker 1: be back after the break. What does credit look like?
Speaker 1: So in real time, what does this all look like? It?
Speaker 1: This is? It looks like homage, So you actually say it,
Speaker 1: you actually say this is? Uh. I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that there is a a disconnect with
Speaker 1: Africa in that sense because African people, I've a sleep,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a continent. So there's different
Speaker 1: cultures in different countries. The obviously different languages, many different languages.
Speaker 1: And you know you're wearing a gayley, but you don't
Speaker 1: know where the fabric is from, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's the same kind of credit, like that's Ghanaian.
Speaker 1: You know you're being deep. I'm like, you're wearing corn rolls.
Speaker 1: I need you to not say that I got the
Speaker 1: style from Chloe cardass sharing. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think it's the same thing, Like you have to show
Speaker 1: respect all over the there are some things they are
Speaker 1: not allowed to dabble in period. What is what is sacred?
Speaker 1: They already ship damn my man, I don't bye, Hi Hi,
Speaker 1: Hi's really really good question. I wanted my hairstyles to
Speaker 1: be sacred because we hold this texture. But I see
Speaker 1: that couldn't happen. Um No, there's wigs for that color obviously.
Speaker 1: You know. You can tan or you can add um,
Speaker 1: you can add color to yourself and then add dimensions
Speaker 1: with makeup. Uh. Booties are off the off the list
Speaker 1: because anybody can buy one. I guess my thing is
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite parts of Black Panther. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of Black Panther is when
Speaker 1: they escape and from the Capitol and they are headed
Speaker 1: to go see Baku to ask him can they use
Speaker 1: his army? And they get there and they find out
Speaker 1: that he has you know, that he has child. And
Speaker 1: so when they get there, they have a little you know,
Speaker 1: they have a little flower and um and the white
Speaker 1: guys there with them, and they are about to do
Speaker 1: the ceremony to bring him back, and so um Umbaku
Speaker 1: then turns to the white guy and he says, turn around.
Speaker 1: And not only does he make the white man turn around,
Speaker 1: he also turns around because he recognizes that this is
Speaker 1: part of their ritual and their culture and everybody doesn't
Speaker 1: get to see it, not even him, even though he's
Speaker 1: a fellow. Will Condon and So what that said to
Speaker 1: me was that as black people, especially people of diaspora,
Speaker 1: we share so much with the cultures where we are that, um,
Speaker 1: we don't hold anything as we don't make other people
Speaker 1: turn around. Everybody gets to see, everybody gets to partake.
Speaker 1: And even though it would be great if they could
Speaker 1: partake and also give the credit, I just personally think
Speaker 1: that without certain things that they don't get to see,
Speaker 1: not for you, no invites to the how do we
Speaker 1: do don't give out invites to the cookout? How do
Speaker 1: we give to become they aunties and uncles now in
Speaker 1: our families? So how do we do that? Right? Where
Speaker 1: where is that line drawn? Is there space to create
Speaker 1: sacrament where there wasn't there any before? Damn dang Asian
Speaker 1: there there. It's like there's no hiding place, there's no
Speaker 1: hiding We already give it away. I think that we've
Speaker 1: given away a lot of ourselves, so much of ourselves,
Speaker 1: and we don't even know how to recognize ourselves. Well.
Speaker 1: I believe it starts within the family. Like one thing
Speaker 1: last year that I started doing with my family was
Speaker 1: created traditions. Traditions are I feel like, extend to kind
Speaker 1: of the way that we build culture and the way
Speaker 1: we protect culture, and it has to kind of begin
Speaker 1: in the home. So certain things that we do with
Speaker 1: just each other is what we do to honor our ancestors,
Speaker 1: honor each other within our home. And that was part
Speaker 1: of the project that we brought a besa butler. Earlier
Speaker 1: where I was talking about it, I had done some
Speaker 1: research to try to find someone who was like a
Speaker 1: quilte master to do a heirloom piece for my family,
Speaker 1: so that as we created these moments, um these traditions,
Speaker 1: that we also had elements to the traditions that were
Speaker 1: to our family. Because you know what made me think
Speaker 1: about it was Kinteke, Right, So every every family has
Speaker 1: their own that that's that's that's that's specific to their family.
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, what does my family have that's
Speaker 1: just ours, that's just just great and danceller. If you're
Speaker 1: a great a danceler, you get to have that or
Speaker 1: you get to know that. So for me, I just
Speaker 1: feel like it kind of starts in your home and
Speaker 1: our house, right, and you create sacraments there because that's
Speaker 1: those that's the hiding place. Is there any possibility this
Speaker 1: could ever go outside the home. Is there any way
Speaker 1: that we get ever create some new cultural tradition that
Speaker 1: they're not they don't want in on, and we won't
Speaker 1: give it to them. Well, I guess it's worth a try,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Who knows, can't you? You
Speaker 1: can't predict the future. But but I think if we
Speaker 1: had something that we could hold to heart, that that
Speaker 1: meant something to us, and then then we might we
Speaker 1: might care for it differently, you know. Um and if
Speaker 1: you're in a new if you're a different mind. I
Speaker 1: put this way. At one point, there was no quansa,
Speaker 1: right right, My thing is listen as at one point
Speaker 1: there was no Quansa, and now there's a Quansa. You know,
Speaker 1: at one point, June tenth was a local tradition and
Speaker 1: now it's a national one. But they're about to start
Speaker 1: participating nat though Asia. That's that's about. That's a wrap
Speaker 1: that's about to be inclusive, is about to be inclusive.
Speaker 1: That's a wrap. I always think about jazz, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: jazz in those smoky basements, you know the beginnings of
Speaker 1: jazz and how okay, let's even go to black Lily
Speaker 1: about that. Let's talk about something that we were we
Speaker 1: all were called. We were there, you know for Black
Speaker 1: Lily and what that energy was. Black Lily was a
Speaker 1: a jam session that was hosted by Jazzy Fat Nasty's
Speaker 1: and it was created I would say it was created
Speaker 1: by them and the roots. The roots are a big
Speaker 1: portion of um of that and um, it's a place
Speaker 1: where I would call it a shed where singers and
Speaker 1: musicians could hone their craft and you know, um learn
Speaker 1: basically learn on stage life happening right now, which was
Speaker 1: very beneficial. Uh. Once we let the industry in, once
Speaker 1: we let um people outside of our culture are particular
Speaker 1: culture in, it got filtered. Something happened. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing as soon as we we have
Speaker 1: to find something sacred to each person, to each family,
Speaker 1: something that's important and it's only and then and you
Speaker 1: can't let anybody else into it, which is very Uh,
Speaker 1: we're sharing people. Well, this is what we do. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean even down to like so, I love West
Speaker 1: African dance. I've been taking it for a while and
Speaker 1: you know, even when we're in class, you know, our
Speaker 1: teachers will often say, oh, well we're gonna learn this
Speaker 1: dance today. But you know, typically between ethnic groups, this
Speaker 1: dance is not seen, and there are still dances that
Speaker 1: are not seen. I mean that literally are you know,
Speaker 1: between ethnic groups that are less than seven miles away
Speaker 1: from one another. So that and and so it is
Speaker 1: not un African to be specific to small local spaces
Speaker 1: or families like that is actually totally African, totally within
Speaker 1: our you know, our lineage. I think it's totally and
Speaker 1: with our with and within our rights. And from a
Speaker 1: musical standpoint, those same things are are true. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, Jill in the sense that it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's certain drum patterns, certain certain actual drums
Speaker 1: and and and and instruments, and all of those things
Speaker 1: are true. We've had to share also for survival. I
Speaker 1: think probably too because of the fact that just being
Speaker 1: able to tie us back to our roots and the
Speaker 1: diaspora has just been so spread out, and then we
Speaker 1: get there and then we just make something new. So
Speaker 1: that's another way that people have, you know, learned things.
Speaker 1: But like turning inward, I think is stuff definitely our
Speaker 1: right and definitely be a way that we could go
Speaker 1: move forward and try to say, okay, listen, we can
Speaker 1: always decide to start from scratch. I'm sorry turning inward.
Speaker 1: I'm going to work on my annunciation for you. I
Speaker 1: thought you said the N word. I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure I knew what you mean. Mamah. Yeah, that's one.
Speaker 1: That's one that's that's specifically ours. That that's one that's
Speaker 1: specifically our. That is, it's not sacred, but it but
Speaker 1: it ain't. But for you, it's not. It's not turn around,
Speaker 1: it's not yes. And that's the only thing that we have.
Speaker 1: The people that the others know that there may be
Speaker 1: a ramification if you do attempt. I think that's the
Speaker 1: only thing that black people have, Isn't that's terrible best,
Speaker 1: that's a that's it that it's not our turn. If
Speaker 1: you go to a hip hop shows, to a hip
Speaker 1: hop show, it don't even matter because everybody don't religions, no, no,
Speaker 1: what they won't say. They won't say it with you
Speaker 1: if you say it in the right sentence. Because I
Speaker 1: want to see Kendrick Lamar and we was in there
Speaker 1: and uh, they definitely wanted to say we're gonna be
Speaker 1: all right. They wanted to sing that. But when I
Speaker 1: said black don't crack, they just say that I'm proud
Speaker 1: of instruction. I think he not only m C two
Speaker 1: that kind of give instruction, or like, I will say this.
Speaker 1: I went to an Anderson Pact show once, me and
Speaker 1: Jason and the song where he's like, uh ho ass niggas.
Speaker 1: Let me say he started it and then he stopped
Speaker 1: it because he looked at that audience and he was like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to another one, y'all. That's what we
Speaker 1: appreciate that as black people said, shout out jority white crowd,
Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, let's go to the next one.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one. I've actually never written
Speaker 1: it in a song anywhere. Yeah, I mean neither. Look
Speaker 1: at me. I'm auder the jail. I'm going through all
Speaker 1: my jail songs, like, oh do you remember me? I
Speaker 1: don't know. No I went. I'm trying to think I
Speaker 1: did a song with Jeezy. I'm like that, I's fed.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I did not.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it looks like that's the word that's sacred
Speaker 1: because it's not our it's not the skin color, it's
Speaker 1: not our hairstyles, it's not our music, it's not our religion,
Speaker 1: it's not our man it's not our women. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like that's the that's the words. Do we embrace that?
Speaker 1: I mean, are we disgusted or do we say, you
Speaker 1: know what? If that's it, then we hold firm. I
Speaker 1: would just like the same fear. I would like to
Speaker 1: create something else too that has the same fear around it.
Speaker 1: That's saying that I would like to I don't know
Speaker 1: what that is, because we're already giving out so many
Speaker 1: things or been taken from us. Just one more thing
Speaker 1: that would prevent you from I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen to me if I do this. I was
Speaker 1: just like that. I wish you could have happened with
Speaker 1: braids and locks. I would have liked that to happen
Speaker 1: with braids and locks. Yeah, there's something sacred about that
Speaker 1: about you know, the whole process of having somebody you know,
Speaker 1: put their energy into your hair and you know, create
Speaker 1: a lock out of of you know, regular African American hair.
Speaker 1: I was supposed but I mean I didn't have a
Speaker 1: better word for that, but out of your coils, out
Speaker 1: of your hair, that there's something special about that. But
Speaker 1: it can now be manipulated and yeah, you know, for
Speaker 1: for some reason I trust. I trust white people with
Speaker 1: with locks a little bit more community like you. You
Speaker 1: probably you were probably all right, yeah, And I feel
Speaker 1: like they're more in harmony or um aware. You know
Speaker 1: of what original man looks like, so they're attempting to
Speaker 1: be that, and it looks more like an homage instead
Speaker 1: of a whole you know, grabbing run. I can't take that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't take that grabbing run out here.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Hair is hard for me.
Speaker 1: Hair is hard for me. I won't even lie to you.
Speaker 1: I have a very difficult time looking at locks and
Speaker 1: braids or white people. I don't I don't know what
Speaker 1: why that particular thing strikes a chord with me, um
Speaker 1: but that it always feels disrespectful. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sure I can choose any number of
Speaker 1: things that are more disrespectful than that, But it is
Speaker 1: something about that that is just so disrespectful to me,
Speaker 1: like just stop, just stop. I don't feel I don't
Speaker 1: feel bigged up or honored in that moment. I just
Speaker 1: feel like you try to force a square peg. I
Speaker 1: don't even do that, that you're hair and even that
Speaker 1: It took a lot of determination, It took a lot
Speaker 1: of time and energy, and a lot of not watching it,
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of hate. When they
Speaker 1: go to the islands and get them braids on the beach,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I do not like that. I do not
Speaker 1: like that. I do not like that. And I want
Speaker 1: to be able to say I don't like don't do that.
Speaker 1: I really want to be able to say that, and
Speaker 1: and and really not be interpreted as saying I don't
Speaker 1: want your solidarity. I don't want you to, you know,
Speaker 1: to enjoy or to be a friend. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to be This person was like, oh, you,
Speaker 1: I have all these stipulations, but I want to be
Speaker 1: able to say I don't like that, don't do that,
Speaker 1: and you to just be like, okay, you know what,
Speaker 1: all right, because I'm just not you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to wear a kilt. I'm not going to just
Speaker 1: show up at your family's house and a kilt and
Speaker 1: just I'm not going to do it. But we are
Speaker 1: not going out of our way to play the bagpipe. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so let me enter here because I just got a
Speaker 1: note from a black man. I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time with who said, but what about black women and
Speaker 1: blond hair? So there black people that have blond hair,
Speaker 1: National women who die there hair blond? Is there the same?
Speaker 1: I just on that note when you said that, I said,
Speaker 1: I say, as a black woman who's hair blind stuff,
Speaker 1: I say, no, I mean my hair is currently blind.
Speaker 1: So I will say, funk out of here with that bullshit.
Speaker 1: I love that stuff, like the intellectual pre spot like
Speaker 1: we did that you're looking for that is. That is
Speaker 1: my official response to that. I have this positional hair
Speaker 1: in general, and I love you black man who offered
Speaker 1: that particular this love out of here with that bullshit.
Speaker 1: I do feel like, does it like hair? You know,
Speaker 1: it grows out of our heads and uh in other
Speaker 1: places on our bodies. If it's straight or curly or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do with it. Is it's a couture, mall.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's that's what it is. And if you
Speaker 1: shave your head tomorrow, you're still gonna be black that part.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make difference. You're stupid. And I just think,
Speaker 1: don't y'all think that it's something that happens between women,
Speaker 1: whether it be your mom, your auntie, you becausein you're
Speaker 1: big sister or whatever. But growing up as a black girl,
Speaker 1: it's just something that happens sitting in between some legs,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, having a hole, the smell
Speaker 1: of blue stuff like that Coco and love scent. My
Speaker 1: I was in the hair supply with with Nina yesterday
Speaker 1: and she was talking about how her friends would talk
Speaker 1: about old school hair products but she didn't remember me
Speaker 1: using those. And we were walking down this this, this,
Speaker 1: in this in this store and they had a bunch
Speaker 1: of old school product and I said, yes, I did.
Speaker 1: You just don't remember, baby, Like I said, when you
Speaker 1: were a little I used pink all moisture, that smell,
Speaker 1: and I said, I said, you know, I moved on
Speaker 1: because by the time you were old enough to to remember,
Speaker 1: they had more natural hair products. Yes, and then in
Speaker 1: the same store they had um Nature's Blessing. Do you
Speaker 1: remember that yestreen? Yeah, the green said that's rosemary and now,
Speaker 1: yeah it's a good product. It still use a main intail,
Speaker 1: main intail, right, So my friend invented that big black
Speaker 1: it was I'm not sure if it was sold off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But because we are in this capitalistic society, we tend
Speaker 1: to sell our stuff to that part because you know
Speaker 1: who doesn't to have some money, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: so that that land that your great grandfather you know,
Speaker 1: literally slaved for, you know, great great grandfather were more
Speaker 1: great um slaved for, and the next generation held onto
Speaker 1: that land in the next generation. But she always once
Speaker 1: a condo in Miami. So shame the land land is gone.
Speaker 1: So that land, you know, in order to get that
Speaker 1: condo in Miami. You know, like we have to hold
Speaker 1: onto things that matter to us, um and we can't
Speaker 1: be mad when other people jump into it because they
Speaker 1: have the ability to or or we can't be mad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but do you think we see the whole idea of
Speaker 1: us devaluing It is just really a fine biduct of
Speaker 1: the whole thing from the beginning, it's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: only take from you, but we also want to teach
Speaker 1: you and make you devalue. Well is that we took
Speaker 1: and make you feel like I don't want that? It's
Speaker 1: not that important. Blacks, you know, like, oh your hair
Speaker 1: is ugly, your hair's nappy. It has not in the
Speaker 1: eighties blocks of black people wasn't always the prettiest thing.
Speaker 1: So you know, what I mean. People people have things
Speaker 1: to say, and depending on why island you are, that's
Speaker 1: a whole class issue. Come on, come on, I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 1: I appreciate this conversation. We're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: and then we'll be right back like, yeah, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with him? Give me one? Oh, what's wrong with him?
Speaker 1: Give you another one? Um, y'all know, when we really
Speaker 1: originally thought of this thought, there was a person I
Speaker 1: had in mind because I was like, what's wrong with him?
Speaker 1: He is so vocal on the black experience, and he
Speaker 1: is so talented, and he went to um Harvard And
Speaker 1: I've been looking at this man for years and I
Speaker 1: was like, but he always been single? What's wrong with them?
Speaker 1: Some men really don't want to settle down until their
Speaker 1: dick is broke. And Um, that sentence was gonna go.
Speaker 1: I really I really feel like that, Like they wait
Speaker 1: until they're like, you know, forty eight, forty nine, and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they want to settle down
Speaker 1: and get married when the dick don't work like they
Speaker 1: used to anymore. Uh huh huh, and they feel like
Speaker 1: they've had you know, they've sold all the oats they
Speaker 1: possibly could. Then they want you to marry them and
Speaker 1: love them and take care of them when they get
Speaker 1: into yes and and be okay with the dick they don't.
Speaker 1: I'm silent because I agree. Damn. I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, let's say this particular man for
Speaker 1: this type of them, that particular kind of um. I mean,
Speaker 1: the idea is that they just don't want to do
Speaker 1: any of the work. They don't want to do any
Speaker 1: of the work, and they avoid the work as long
Speaker 1: as they possibly can. I need to avoid that work
Speaker 1: for a very, very, very long time because I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to deal with that. And really it's
Speaker 1: not even so a situation where it's a lot of judgment.
Speaker 1: It's hard to deal with your stuff. It is very
Speaker 1: hard to recover from trauma. It's very hard to see
Speaker 1: yourself mirrored back at you. And when you have a
Speaker 1: mate that is, they might as well just be a mirror,
Speaker 1: because all it is is you've got to sit there
Speaker 1: and deal with yourself. At some point you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do that. And that's work. That's the relationship work.
Speaker 1: Mugs don't really talk about. It's the self work. It's
Speaker 1: the actual self work. And I'm not saying that single
Speaker 1: people ain't doing self work. So whoever's gonna listen to
Speaker 1: this and at the ship out of me about it,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that there is a specific kind of self
Speaker 1: work that you that you cannot avoid when you're mate
Speaker 1: it with somebody. It's just you can't avoid that part
Speaker 1: of it. And if you want to avoid it, then
Speaker 1: you just avoid meeting with somebody for a long period
Speaker 1: of time. And I was gonna say that's also I
Speaker 1: thought one of the answers to it's like when you
Speaker 1: when something like that, we're the person that I was describing,
Speaker 1: I'm like, he also has options, and he has time, options,
Speaker 1: time and resources because trust me, the one that came
Speaker 1: that don't came by a house. The person I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: the one that ain't got no resources. Uh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get married. He's gonna get murged quick. He's gonna get murged.
Speaker 1: Yeah man, yeah, absolutely, you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna go ahead and get hooked that one. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: that started. I gotta hold my mouth. What's wrong with
Speaker 1: a major hit me? Ah? Okay, Um, she's trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how she could be nice. This is what
Speaker 1: I know. All right, well I have one, but it's
Speaker 1: it's really recent, like as in the past twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Give it, yes, Yes, let's go. I am so irritated
Speaker 1: with the fact that people cannot have, um a multi
Speaker 1: layer conversation, that everything gotta be all or nothing. This
Speaker 1: is the thing is that I think that what's wrong
Speaker 1: with black people that we are we really at this
Speaker 1: point where we can't have like a layered discourse about
Speaker 1: something that's valid without throwing in and also without throwing
Speaker 1: in extra sexism, misogyny, racism, classism, colorism. Because I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at both sides very sad, very sad. I
Speaker 1: think it's very sad. What's wrong not what's wrong with them,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with us? What the hell is wrong with us?
Speaker 1: While we can't have this conversation, we should be able
Speaker 1: to talk to each other with respect, I'm sorry, and
Speaker 1: we should be able to agree to disagree. Right, that's
Speaker 1: too much. For some reason, something's happened to us. Well,
Speaker 1: it's either all or nothing, you know, it's it's you
Speaker 1: cannot have an opinion outside like for instance, the the
Speaker 1: guy on the on the inter web that's what I'll
Speaker 1: call it. Um the guy on Twitter who was like, uh,
Speaker 1: y'all think Jill Scott is attractive? I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: see it. I don't understand it. He absolutely has the
Speaker 1: right not to like me. Yeah. Yeah, but but it
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary, is what it was. It wasn't necessary and
Speaker 1: it was an unnecessary jab that was whack. This all
Speaker 1: is true, But he has the right not to, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I appreciate all the people
Speaker 1: who are like, oh, we just you know, how you
Speaker 1: know people feel and that they appreciate me for who
Speaker 1: I am and what I look like. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's what's up. But you know, he has the right
Speaker 1: not to be feeling me. I'm not feeling everybody, but
Speaker 1: I don't go outside of my time to to express that.
Speaker 1: We do have to remember that everything needs to be
Speaker 1: said like you and young people have to remember it
Speaker 1: was life here before you. Yeah, with love, shut the
Speaker 1: funk up? What did I say? Yeah, we love, we love,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up. I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of with loves out on this on this podcast.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot of it because it's important
Speaker 1: to establish the love. Amen. Every observation is just that,
Speaker 1: not necessarily a judgment in any kind of way. Um,
Speaker 1: And I just want to say that I don't know
Speaker 1: how to say it better than that. Bye, love that Bye.
Speaker 1: Until next time, y'all. How do you eat an elephant? One? Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's Eaves here, an executive producer on the show, popping
Speaker 1: in to give you a resource related to the episode,
Speaker 1: just in case you want to do a little bit
Speaker 1: more research on something that was mentioned now. Jill mentioned
Speaker 1: Sarah Bartman, also known as Sarkee Bartman or Degrading Lee
Speaker 1: as the hot in Top Venus, none of which were
Speaker 1: her given name, but she was a Koi Koi woman
Speaker 1: from southern Africa. She was exploited and her curvy body
Speaker 1: was put on display for white folks to abuse. When
Speaker 1: she died, she was dissected and her remains were sent
Speaker 1: to a museum. Her story is, of course, much longer
Speaker 1: and much more complex than that, and it's steeped in
Speaker 1: all of the isms, but please read, watch, or listen
Speaker 1: to more about her history if you aren't already familiar
Speaker 1: with it. I'll drop a link to an article about
Speaker 1: Sarah Bartman in the episode description, thank you for listening
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