Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football podcast, brought
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Speaker 1: I am joined by Pat fitz Morris at fits Underscore
Speaker 1: f Pat, What is going on? My man? NFL free
Speaker 1: agency signings, MLB signings, March madness. It's just crazy right now,
Speaker 1: so but soaking it all in. Man, if you're a
Speaker 1: sports fan, what a glorious time of year this is?
Speaker 1: It is, It is very, very glorious. And to join
Speaker 1: us in this episode to do a two round super
Speaker 1: flex mock draft with all of the rookies. It's a
Speaker 1: rookie mock draft. Is Cody Carpetier. You can follow him
Speaker 1: on the Twitter at Carpetier, NFL head NFL Draft Analysts
Speaker 1: and play and player personnel over at roto Underworld. Cody,
Speaker 1: what is going on? Are you enjoying the quote unquote
Speaker 1: off season? Offseason? On season? We're all season, baby, We're
Speaker 1: here just getting it done for the people, just trying
Speaker 1: to just trying to get as much knowledge and learn
Speaker 1: as much and do everything. Man. That's that's where our
Speaker 1: goal is. So we're having a good having a good
Speaker 1: spring though, so I hope you guys are as well.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you having me on today. Of course, how was
Speaker 1: the combine you were out there? Did you go get
Speaker 1: a steak at the famous what's the steakhouse? Saying Almos?
Speaker 1: That's right? Did you go to go to Saint Almos
Speaker 1: and rub elbows with all of the gms and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. We did. So I went down there with
Speaker 1: a couple of friends over from roster Watch and we
Speaker 1: went over to Saint Almos. Um we ordered a drink
Speaker 1: and then we were like, uh so this is part
Speaker 1: of having people like Alex don that from roster Watch
Speaker 1: is he's been to Saint Almos and he's been too.
Speaker 1: I think next next door is like Harry and Harry
Speaker 1: and something, but they're connected. The the kitchens are connected,
Speaker 1: so it's the same food, but if you go to
Speaker 1: Harry's on the corner, it's cheaper. So we actually went
Speaker 1: to Harry's instead of wet drink of Saint Alimos. We
Speaker 1: walked next door to Harry's, got a steak, got the cocktail.
Speaker 1: The cocktail shrimp, I mean that is that is some
Speaker 1: of the hottest food I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1: So that was fantastic. But yeah, I mean the combine
Speaker 1: was awesome. I met a lot of people, got to
Speaker 1: kind of just interact with these players. Um, we got
Speaker 1: to go watch the quarterback wide receiver drills on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: That was pretty fun. Um, it was just a great experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I saw you mentioned on Twitter that's awesome. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Yeah, Saint Almos that like the shrimp cocktail is
Speaker 1: more famous than the steak. They're just so much horse
Speaker 1: radish packed into that, like that will clear your sinuses
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Um, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say right on that
Speaker 1: was like Alex warned me. He's like, dude, this is
Speaker 1: the best. He didn't say this is the hottest. He
Speaker 1: said this is the best and then take a part
Speaker 1: of it. And I'm not one for like I'm not
Speaker 1: good with the hot stuff. Like I love barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1: That's like my number one thing on everything. But I
Speaker 1: think I might direct my tongue for the hot stuff.
Speaker 1: And he didn't warn me. So I just took a bite,
Speaker 1: keeping keeping of it, and I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: and it hit me just like that, and then he's like,
Speaker 1: it's the hottest in the world. No go, no, no no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I looked it up, literally the hottest cocktail sauce in
Speaker 1: the world, and yeah, man, it was. While while we're
Speaker 1: on the subject of Alex Dunlapcoty, I gotta ask you,
Speaker 1: did you appreciate the combine being indoors After the infamous
Speaker 1: rainy practice day at the Senior Bowl. Alex told me
Speaker 1: a story about how he had to catch a plane
Speaker 1: right after that practice, so he had to keep his
Speaker 1: gear dry, his computer and his bag with all his clothes,
Speaker 1: had to wear it like underneath his poncho. He said.
Speaker 1: It looked like he was four hundred pounds. So were
Speaker 1: you able to stay high and dry that day? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were together. He he came out. I didn't know
Speaker 1: he had a poncho. He had like a full wet
Speaker 1: suit on, and I had my backpack underneath my coat,
Speaker 1: so I looked like the hunchback. And then he comes
Speaker 1: out and he's got all this poncho on, this full gear.
Speaker 1: It looked like he was going hunting or something. And
Speaker 1: he likes showing me like he's got his backpack underneath here,
Speaker 1: he's got his like his over the shoulder bag underneath here,
Speaker 1: he's got everything ready to like go straight to the airport.
Speaker 1: And I was like, where you just come out of
Speaker 1: the woods with the whole poncho on and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm good. He got soaked and he's like, I just gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, roll it up. And he didn't really want
Speaker 1: to be wet on the airplane because I mean, that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be fun. But I mean, yeah, that was the rain.
Speaker 1: Practice at the Senior Bowl was was wet. But again,
Speaker 1: like League Willis shined, a bunch of these offensive linemen shined. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a good practice, but it was it was not
Speaker 1: the best weather. To answer you, really what your first
Speaker 1: question was the combine being indoors was fantastic in comparison,
Speaker 1: for sure. For sure, you guys, have you guys ever
Speaker 1: heard that like story of Johnny Unitis and why he
Speaker 1: was traded to the Colts And uh so they did
Speaker 1: a practice he was on this Steelers roster and they
Speaker 1: did a practice in the rain, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I guess he was just god awful in the rain,
Speaker 1: ball was slipping out of his hand. He probably had
Speaker 1: the same size hands as Kenny Pickett, right, and the
Speaker 1: ball was slipping out of his hands. Wasn't good. And
Speaker 1: the Steelers, I think, literally traded Johnny United to the
Speaker 1: Colts for five hundred dollars in a bag of footballs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's like the original Johnny You story was,
Speaker 1: dude couldn't throw in the rain, had a practice in
Speaker 1: the rain, he was terrible, So they just got rid
Speaker 1: of him. So, you know, I get it worked out
Speaker 1: in the end for everyone. You know, the Steelers do
Speaker 1: have six Super Bowl rings, but you know, Johnny United
Speaker 1: has traded away. But we are going to we are
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Speaker 1: that out. A little bit of news, a lot a
Speaker 1: bit of news, but we're gonna try to condense this
Speaker 1: too as quick as possible here, so I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: run down what has happened in terms of skill position
Speaker 1: players as far as free agency goes. Brady is back
Speaker 1: and Pat I know you heard me talking about this.
Speaker 1: I said I was not one hundred percent convinced he
Speaker 1: was done. But for me, it was like, if we
Speaker 1: get to camp and he's not there, then I'll say
Speaker 1: Brady is done. But we didn't even get I mean,
Speaker 1: the lockout for MLB lasted longer than Tom Brady's retirement,
Speaker 1: so on top of everything else and all the moving
Speaker 1: and shaking. Tom Brady back in the NFL. Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: got cleared for his criminal investigation, so he is back
Speaker 1: on the market and many many teams are diving in
Speaker 1: on him. The Steelers got a new starter in Mitchell Trubisky,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater went to the Dolphins, Carson Wentz got trade
Speaker 1: to the Commanders. Lots of quarterback news for the running backs,
Speaker 1: not as much. We had James Conner re up with
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Chase Edmonds signed with the Dolphins, and Jey
Speaker 1: McKissick went to the Bills. For the Whiteouts, we had
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper getting traded in the middle of one of
Speaker 1: my baseball drafts. He was traded from Dallas to Cleveland
Speaker 1: for a fifth and a six. Obviously Cleveland taking on
Speaker 1: all of that salary, but at least the Cowboys got
Speaker 1: something back for him. Also, Michael Gallup re upped with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Cedric Wilson is close to a deal
Speaker 1: in Miami. In terms of Cowboys wide receiver news, the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars just ruined the wide receiver market by giving
Speaker 1: Christian kirk Way too much money. Also gave da Jones
Speaker 1: a lot of money, not nearly as bad as a
Speaker 1: Kirk deal, but still not great. So they also signed
Speaker 1: up an Ingram in terms of tight ends too. DJ
Speaker 1: Chark bet on himself with a one year deal with
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Russell Gage went to the Bucks on
Speaker 1: a deal, and his cj Uzama signed with the Jets,
Speaker 1: and zach Ertz re upped with the Cardinals. I think
Speaker 1: that's most of it. So fits your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: free agent frenzy that we have seen so far in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Oh Man, Trent Balky just opening opening the
Speaker 1: just driving up the brink strike. I think he gave
Speaker 1: Za Jones. Zay Jones is gonna get fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: every time he does that weird levitation thing where he
Speaker 1: gets off the ground. Yeah. Man. And they're like, I
Speaker 1: remember seeing the Adam Schefter tweet yesterday. It was originally
Speaker 1: what reported eighty four million four years for Kirk and
Speaker 1: him saying, oh, oh no, it's only seventy two million.
Speaker 1: With some incent it's like, oh, is that all for
Speaker 1: a guy who's never had a thousand yards season? I mean,
Speaker 1: not that we're holding that against Kirk, but just man,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it messed up the wide receiver markets.
Speaker 1: I mean other wide receivers like are hearing from their agents. Well,
Speaker 1: this team is saying that they're not going to overspend
Speaker 1: just because the Jaguars are crazy Like that is a
Speaker 1: phrase that agents have had to say to their players
Speaker 1: because of these deals. So yeah, I mean, kudos to
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's agent, who is going to be a popular dude.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a lot of players looking to sign
Speaker 1: with that guy. Um. Yeah, So the Brady on retirement
Speaker 1: really preserves the value of Evans and Godwin and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what they do at wide receiver
Speaker 1: or running back. Sorry, like Leonard Fournette. Maybe he just resigns,
Speaker 1: but if not, that's what it's going to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most likely, man, Brady was just captain checkdown and I
Speaker 1: understand not wanting to take shots in your mid forties.
Speaker 1: But whoever ends up there is going to have a windfall,
Speaker 1: just a pass catching dump off windfall. Hopefully Godwin is
Speaker 1: there to capitalize on it because he was headed for
Speaker 1: just monstrous numbers this year before the injury. Man lots
Speaker 1: of comments on Cody. Cody, what do you got like,
Speaker 1: what comes to your mind first? With this flurry we've
Speaker 1: seen in the last day or two, the Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: thing obviously has got to be the top of the list.
Speaker 1: We saw that Davanta Adams was offered twenty three million,
Speaker 1: which is laughable in comparison to these other deals that
Speaker 1: have happened. It's like he should probably be offered thirty
Speaker 1: three and then that's like where it should start to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, like in compares to this other stuff.
Speaker 1: But Russell Clay, I think said at best on Twitter
Speaker 1: on January eighthies see Christian Kirk with possibly the quietest
Speaker 1: nine hundred fifty totally yard season of all time, and
Speaker 1: then you applied to it yesterday and said, turns out
Speaker 1: this was actually the loudest and greatest nine or fifty
Speaker 1: yard totally yard season of all time. And I thought
Speaker 1: that just like on Twitter yesterday, lot and I was like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, the Christian Kirk thing was probably
Speaker 1: the biggest. I thought there was a few, like the
Speaker 1: Chargers dominated yesterday getting jac Jackson, Sebastian's great pickup, and
Speaker 1: then obviously Mac in the trade before that, and then
Speaker 1: today Tampa's made a few moves that are nice. It's
Speaker 1: it's it just leaves you in question, like what Jacksonville's thing.
Speaker 1: Like they bring in Foye a Lukan, they cut Miles
Speaker 1: jack Today they bring in Brandon Shuff great, great pickup,
Speaker 1: but it's again offense, you're going after las Lavisko. Chanault's
Speaker 1: still there now they're going to trade him. It's like
Speaker 1: you're just bringing guys in and then you're shipping guys out.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just to fit the scheme or whatever, but
Speaker 1: just some of these franchises that you see don't do anything.
Speaker 1: Or the Indianapolis Colts another one I'd like to hear
Speaker 1: maybe you guys have thoughts on that, is they're the
Speaker 1: one sitting pat They got some of the most money
Speaker 1: in free agency right now and they're not doing anything,
Speaker 1: not going after quarterback. It makes me wonder if there's
Speaker 1: something behind the scenes going on at quarterback that they're
Speaker 1: gonna make a big move. Yeah. I know they checked
Speaker 1: and on Watson and the Texans were like, you're the
Speaker 1: one place we want, we're not gonna So I know
Speaker 1: that was at least talked about and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: But I think that's the domino that needs to fall
Speaker 1: for them. But you're right, they're falling behind right now
Speaker 1: because all these free agents are getting snapped up on
Speaker 1: these deals and you know, none of these will be
Speaker 1: official until uh, you know, Wednesday, So we're recording this
Speaker 1: in the afternoon on Tuesday, so we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, they gotta get after it. I
Speaker 1: love Sam Ellinger. I'm a Texas fan. We're talking about it,
Speaker 1: you know in the show. I went to that that
Speaker 1: Texas game where they lost to Kansas this year. But
Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger is probably not a starting caliber quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's, you know, along with Colt McCoy and
Speaker 1: other Texas guys, probably a pretty solid backup for most
Speaker 1: of his career. So um, yeah, they got to do
Speaker 1: something that at that position. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the Colts pat Yeah, like we've heard Jimmy g connected
Speaker 1: to that. We've got Jamis Winston as a possible fallback,
Speaker 1: and really Brady sort of added a chair to the
Speaker 1: game of musical chairs a quarterback here. But I don't
Speaker 1: think the Colts want to rely on the draft for
Speaker 1: a quarterback because I think, as we're going to see
Speaker 1: in our Super flex mock. Maybe quarterbacks are not as
Speaker 1: coveted this year as they would be in a normal year.
Speaker 1: There are moves to be made here for the Colts,
Speaker 1: They're going to be one of the interesting teams because
Speaker 1: they do have sort of the infrastructure in place to
Speaker 1: be a contender. Good offensive line, good running game, good defense.
Speaker 1: They just need to figure it out a quarterback. And
Speaker 1: you know they've they've still got room to add more
Speaker 1: to that infrastructure. So yeah, what they do is going
Speaker 1: to be a big thing. I want to ask you
Speaker 1: guys about Trubisky. I thought that was kind of an
Speaker 1: interesting move for the Steelers to do it on the cheap,
Speaker 1: not have to spend a first round pick on a
Speaker 1: quarterback when they have other needs. I mean, their running
Speaker 1: game was thanks well, thank Nag Harris for whatever they
Speaker 1: got out of the running for making it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that offensive line is just a disaster and their run
Speaker 1: defense was terrible, terrible, So they've got a lot of
Speaker 1: repairs to make. And if they don't have to burn
Speaker 1: a first round pick on a quarterback, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, Trubisky not a complete wash out with the Bears.
Speaker 1: Twenty one was his record under Mattie and I think
Speaker 1: like average NFL starter is like the ceiling for him.
Speaker 1: But hey, man, like a bridge quarterback while you fix
Speaker 1: the other stuff. Not a bad plan, would you guys agree?
Speaker 1: I'll let Cody go first, since obviously my Steelers fandom
Speaker 1: slants me, So Cody your thoughts on Trubisky. I really
Speaker 1: actually do like it. Like we obviously heard the Giants talk,
Speaker 1: maybe Trubisky is gonna go there and follow that whole
Speaker 1: offense or the whole scheme down there. But um, when
Speaker 1: I asked Kevin Colbert about this quarterback class at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl or at the Combine, he said, it's actually
Speaker 1: a quality class. There might not be a guy at
Speaker 1: the top, but there's there will be starting caliber quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this class. Makes me think they're gonna still draft one,
Speaker 1: but maybe they just bring one in for competition with Trubisky.
Speaker 1: I think either one of Rudolph or Haskins is probably
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna go in there with probably four guys,
Speaker 1: I would say, and their intentions are probably Trubisky, but
Speaker 1: I think they probably think a guy like Ritter something
Speaker 1: like that that would maybe entice them. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just depends on where they can get him at right.
Speaker 1: It depends like obviously, if they've been in on Malik,
Speaker 1: would they trade up for him. I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think so anymore. Maybe they just stand pat,
Speaker 1: or they back up a little bit and just see
Speaker 1: if like a ritter falls to them, if that's kind
Speaker 1: of what they want to go with. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of indifferent about it. I think Trubisky and
Speaker 1: Naji harrisk is a is a decent backfield from a
Speaker 1: running standpoint. They could run some rpo. But I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't love it. I
Speaker 1: love it as a Steelers fan because I can't watch
Speaker 1: another season and Mason Rudolph like the year that Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: got her, and I know they would switch the whole
Speaker 1: offense around for you know, for Mason and Matt. Canada
Speaker 1: runs a more vertical style offense, which is what he
Speaker 1: had at Oklahoma State. So we would expect Mason to
Speaker 1: improve and be better in Pittsburgh, you know, with the
Speaker 1: offense changing. But I just don't think that there's any
Speaker 1: ceiling there. I think that with Trubisky, I think he
Speaker 1: is your you plan for him to be your bridge quarterback,
Speaker 1: and if he earns it in the next two seasons,
Speaker 1: you can sign him to a longer deal and make
Speaker 1: him the starter moving forward. I just I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that it's not Mason. I can't tell you guys how
Speaker 1: so so for me, like I said, it's so slanted
Speaker 1: being a Steelers fan, because I just didn't want to
Speaker 1: watch root off. And I know I've seen many of
Speaker 1: the you know, the Ben Roethlisberger was so bad that
Speaker 1: it's making Steelers fans think that Trubisky is good and
Speaker 1: all those memes and all that stuff. But he's prop Trubisky,
Speaker 1: you know, is probably better than the corpse of Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger at the end of his career. And they've got weapons.
Speaker 1: They've improved the offensive line by signing two interior offensive
Speaker 1: lineman already. I hated that they gave a Core for
Speaker 1: an extension because I don't think he's a very good
Speaker 1: right tackle and I think he's like a top twelve
Speaker 1: paid right tackle in the NFL after this extension. And
Speaker 1: I think their plan is to go Dan Moore at
Speaker 1: left tackle, So I don't know that the run blocking
Speaker 1: is going to get so much better. But Kendrick Green
Speaker 1: was on the ground every single snap last year as
Speaker 1: a starting center, and getting Mason Colan there is going
Speaker 1: to improve that at least a little bit. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think Cody's right, and I think if
Speaker 1: the right guy falls to them in the second round,
Speaker 1: they'll probably take him, whether it's Ritter or how or
Speaker 1: you know, however that would work. They're just I mean,
Speaker 1: Malik Willis has been mocked to number two to Detroit,
Speaker 1: you know, because it looks like Aidan Hutchinson is definitely
Speaker 1: going number one into Jacksonville now, so you know, they
Speaker 1: don't need an offensive line and they're not gonna take
Speaker 1: Evin Neil. So it's like, are they gonna take Kyle Hamilton,
Speaker 1: They're gonna take Malik Willis? Take a shot? Are they
Speaker 1: gonna trade down? So the Steelers just you know, the
Speaker 1: last two times they traded up in the first round
Speaker 1: was for Devin Bush it didn't work, and then before
Speaker 1: that it was Troy Palomallo. So they just don't do
Speaker 1: it very often. So I don't know that you know,
Speaker 1: Colbert is going to make a giant splash in his
Speaker 1: last year trade up for Willis, so I do think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Trubisky and then whoever they bring in
Speaker 1: probably next season, because quarterbacks don't fall, you know, they
Speaker 1: just don't, you know. And if they fall to the
Speaker 1: second round, even the high end second round, their drew
Speaker 1: lock right most of the time, so you know, that's
Speaker 1: how it goes. I'm worried about the physical well being
Speaker 1: of Steelers fans because I think the first time Mitch
Speaker 1: Truebisky escapes the pocket and runs for a first down,
Speaker 1: Steelers fans are going to fall out of their chairs
Speaker 1: because they haven't seen that in like seven or eight years.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about you know, I'm hurting themselves. So when
Speaker 1: they fall off the couch, well, you know, watching Ben
Speaker 1: dance around in the backfield for years and not go
Speaker 1: down and screaming throw the ball at him has not
Speaker 1: been good for my health. So I'll take a run,
Speaker 1: a scrambling first down at any point here. But that
Speaker 1: is the news. You know, we had to talk about
Speaker 1: it because so much happened. But let's get into this
Speaker 1: rookie mock draft. So Pat, I will let you set
Speaker 1: it up. Explain what we're doing here, the rules, and
Speaker 1: you know how long it's going to be and all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Okay, So we are going to do
Speaker 1: a two round super flex rookie mock draft, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna alternate. We're gonna let our guest, Cody go first,
Speaker 1: followed by you, Bogman, followed by me. We're doing this
Speaker 1: as if it's a twelve team league, and so we're
Speaker 1: we're each representing a team, I guess, with two picks,
Speaker 1: and once we in the first round, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to the top of the second round with you know,
Speaker 1: Cody's one on one team then picking two all one.
Speaker 1: So okay, So snake not Snake regular U, super Flex
Speaker 1: not tight End Premium PPR. All right, So with the
Speaker 1: first pick in the super flex mock draft, Cody, You're up.
Speaker 1: Who are you taking? Well, we saw it last week
Speaker 1: at the Combine Friday Night. Four point three nine forty
Speaker 1: yard dash, five eleven two and seventeen pounds, ninety five
Speaker 1: percentile college dominator. My boss Matt Kelly compares him to
Speaker 1: light say Quon Barkley, I prefer a mixture of DeMarco
Speaker 1: Murray and Ladinian Thomlinson Bruce Hall Iowa State. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we're going, uh in dynasty, we're going with that
Speaker 1: running back number one. Now, in your opinion, is there
Speaker 1: running back that's close to Bruce or is it Bruce
Speaker 1: then you know fifty feet you know what? And then
Speaker 1: everybody else. So and actually in these in these running backs,
Speaker 1: we have Bruce in his own tier, and we have
Speaker 1: a gap, massive gap, Kenneth Walker in his own tie,
Speaker 1: and then another massive gap. And that's kind of where
Speaker 1: we're looking at It's like a tier one, Tier two,
Speaker 1: Tier three's the rest. That's kind of how we look
Speaker 1: at it. Okay, so this is a difficult pick number
Speaker 1: two because, like you said that, it falls a lot
Speaker 1: after Breee. And you know, running backs, even in super
Speaker 1: flex pat you know, running backs are the premium. They
Speaker 1: burn out fast, so people are trying to replace them fast.
Speaker 1: So Briefe going one not that surprising. But in a
Speaker 1: super flex I'm looking at those quarterbacks. For me, Malik
Speaker 1: Willis absolutely has the highest ceiling of all these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this draft class. So because it's super flex, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead and take Malik Willis. You know,
Speaker 1: we've seen plenty of guys with that scrambling upside Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts probably not a great NFL quarterback, middle of the
Speaker 1: pack in terms of the NFL, but for fantasy he's
Speaker 1: a top ten QB. I think Malik Wills has a
Speaker 1: lot of those same traits that Jalen Hurts does. Probably
Speaker 1: a better thrower, then he definitely has a better arm
Speaker 1: than Jalen Hurts. I don't know if he's as accurate.
Speaker 1: Come from a smaller school, so he's probably a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bigger risk. But in a super flex,
Speaker 1: I gotta take Malik Willis from Liberty with all of
Speaker 1: that upside at the number two picks. So do you
Speaker 1: like that pick? Pat? And a europe for number three here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me before I make that number three pick, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask Cody about Willis because we've we've talked about
Speaker 1: this quarterback class Bogman, and I am very distrustful of everyone,
Speaker 1: including Malik Willis here, like I wonder about like certainly
Speaker 1: there's Lamar Jackson upside here, but there are also questions
Speaker 1: about the accuracy and the decision making. I know Cody
Speaker 1: watched Malik Willis in that rainy senior ball practice, and
Speaker 1: I've heard Pat Kerwin on the NFL network say how
Speaker 1: he won people over that day with the way he
Speaker 1: was able to drive the ball through the rain and
Speaker 1: the inclement weather, and how he had the big hand
Speaker 1: to grip it and rip it that day. So personally,
Speaker 1: I could not take Willis that early in this draft
Speaker 1: when there are still some pretty elite position prospects on
Speaker 1: the board. But I know that's the economy of super flex,
Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks deserved to be pushed up. So I'm
Speaker 1: kind of curious to get Cody's take on that and
Speaker 1: maybe you know, filtered through the perspective of what he
Speaker 1: saw in Mobile. Yeah, so, Malik, that was the big
Speaker 1: one that that rainy day, the first day of practices,
Speaker 1: I would be honest with you, nobody really separated themselves forward,
Speaker 1: and we came away from talking about that, We're like,
Speaker 1: nobody did anything. Kenny Pickett kind of was still, he
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. Ritter stood still, Malik Willis didn't do
Speaker 1: really a lot because it weren't Scout saying that Matt
Speaker 1: Corrall had the best day because he was the only
Speaker 1: one not there exactly. So I mean, yeah, because nobody
Speaker 1: really improved that that first day, and I guess that's
Speaker 1: a lot of just getting used to your surroundings. Malik
Speaker 1: isn't built for that anyway, because of the rushing upset
Speaker 1: that he has. Even ridders not built for it. Um
Speaker 1: Zappy looked like, Uh, then the rainy day comes, Malik
Speaker 1: Willis just blows up. He's hitting everything, he's confident, he's
Speaker 1: out there leading the team. That was when the tide's turned.
Speaker 1: That's when Mike Tomlin's down there following him around the
Speaker 1: entire practice. I mean, when I watched Malik Willis, everyone
Speaker 1: wants to point to, like the Vic Lamar Jackson thing.
Speaker 1: I think he's a lot closer to a Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota than he has those other two guys. Um,
Speaker 1: he can run, he's very good at running, but he's
Speaker 1: not on that level of Lamar and Vic where he
Speaker 1: doesn't have those that I don't think he has quite
Speaker 1: like the loose hips and loose ankles as you see
Speaker 1: like Vic and Lamar Jackson just kind of like it's
Speaker 1: almost like the what's that stretchy man or something where
Speaker 1: he just kind of gets in and out of everything.
Speaker 1: They being inflatable tube man. That guy, that's exactly it
Speaker 1: just like gets in and out of every tackle. You know,
Speaker 1: like Lamar and Victu, Malik reminds me a lot more
Speaker 1: of like a Mariota and a Tyrod Taylor. He's got
Speaker 1: the massive arm. That's what's winning over everybody at the COMBA,
Speaker 1: and he looked great. He's I think he's picking and
Speaker 1: choosing perfectly what he's doing. The Senior Bowl, he takes
Speaker 1: that step the combine. He only throws. Actually, I will
Speaker 1: be going to the Liberty Pro Day sin Since about
Speaker 1: an hour up the road next week, so I'm really
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him run and seeing him throw
Speaker 1: again again. I like where he's at, but again this
Speaker 1: clashes overalls underwhelming when you're talking about Mariota now and
Speaker 1: that Tyrod Taylor level, that's just not what we're used
Speaker 1: to in years past. I still like him, and I
Speaker 1: still have him as QB one, but we're just not
Speaker 1: on that level of talent as the years passed. Obviously.
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Speaker 1: All right, pick number three fits, what's it gonna be? Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going to dip into this wide receiver markets and
Speaker 1: there's not really consensus here as to the number one.
Speaker 1: But I think the majority of people like Traylon Burkes
Speaker 1: here at the top of the wide receiver class, and
Speaker 1: it's a size thing like the first time I ever
Speaker 1: saw him, I thought Dez Bryant, like, that's what he
Speaker 1: looked like. But I don't think that's necessarily his game.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this bogman like how he can
Speaker 1: line up in the slot as an X, as a
Speaker 1: Z in the backfield, and I would love to see
Speaker 1: him go somewhere where they used him as kind of
Speaker 1: a debo. Junior used him in that capacity as the
Speaker 1: big slot. As a guy they're willing to line up
Speaker 1: in the backfield and have him run routes out of
Speaker 1: the backfield or even take handoffs now and again. So
Speaker 1: and we talked about the nightmare that it would be
Speaker 1: if he went to Dallas, where maybe Jerry Jones, the
Speaker 1: Arkansas alum, takes that guy. They do need a receiver now,
Speaker 1: But man, we'd love to see Ceedee Lamb stay in
Speaker 1: the slot and we'd love to see Burkes be a
Speaker 1: big slot anyway. So here's hoping Burke's lands in the
Speaker 1: right spot. I'm taking him at one oh three. Burks
Speaker 1: is still the number one wide out on my board.
Speaker 1: I know he has slipped because he ran the bad
Speaker 1: forty time at the combine a little bit, but that
Speaker 1: speed shows up on film. Yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 1: just right. It just wasn't historical like all these other guys,
Speaker 1: you know, and in a class that's so close, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, with so many guys at the top end,
Speaker 1: any little nitpicky thing is gonna make you fall. So
Speaker 1: I know. UM, just looking at like the odds on
Speaker 1: favorite to be the first wide receiver in the draft taken,
Speaker 1: I think he's fourth now Garrett Wilson bumped up to
Speaker 1: number one, and I think I think he's I think
Speaker 1: he's even I don't think he's minus any money, but
Speaker 1: I do think he's even here. Uh, Cody, your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Treylan Burke's being the first wide receiver off the
Speaker 1: board in our mock here first off the board in
Speaker 1: our mock, I think makes the most sense. I think
Speaker 1: for fantasy Burke stays number one. We've had him number one.
Speaker 1: He did take a little bit of a kickback obviously
Speaker 1: from the combine, but still eighty seventh percentile speed score,
Speaker 1: ninety second percentile college dominator. You can't lie like the
Speaker 1: game speed is a little bit different for him. The
Speaker 1: four to five five does make you have question just
Speaker 1: because if you're on Twitter, for the last two or
Speaker 1: three months, everyone was talking about this four three nine
Speaker 1: with five xcel gloves, and everything came in under you know,
Speaker 1: six four six two five xcel gloves, not even ten
Speaker 1: inch hands four three nine, four to five five, Like,
Speaker 1: just disappointing numbers in comparison to what we expected. But
Speaker 1: when you see the comps come back and the comps
Speaker 1: are still you know, when I tell you Jordy Nelson,
Speaker 1: you know Dwayne bow aj Brown is still in the
Speaker 1: top ten for his comps. Eric Decker like, those are
Speaker 1: still good receivers. We're not gonna like for fantasy football.
Speaker 1: Those are Brandon Marshall, Like, those are good receivers, especially
Speaker 1: for fantasy football. From the NFL standpoint. You just listed
Speaker 1: off Wilson, Olave Williams, all those guys, like, I can
Speaker 1: see those guys he getting drafted ahead of him in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But for fantasy purposes, trail On Burks, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't really I'm leaning in trail On Burks.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you are up for your second pick
Speaker 1: for team two here and your first pick for Team two,
Speaker 1: your second pick in this draft. So we have the
Speaker 1: rainbow here. We have got a running back, a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and a wide receiver. So I highly doubt this is
Speaker 1: Trey McBride. So who's it gonna be with this pick here, Cody, Well,
Speaker 1: it's the hardest runner in this class, the biggest surprise
Speaker 1: at the NFL Combine almost won the Heisman this year.
Speaker 1: He did come in a little shorter, little undersized. Guess
Speaker 1: two hundred and eleven pounds, ninety percent oil forty yard dash,
Speaker 1: ninety nine percentil College Dometer. Give me Kenneth Walker out
Speaker 1: of Michigan. Let's keep that rainbow growing. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: so back to back rbs, and I think this is
Speaker 1: I think if there was a and you can tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong in my thought process here, Cody,
Speaker 1: I think if there were like two or three of
Speaker 1: these top end wide receivers, you would probably go with
Speaker 1: them because in terms of dynasty, they last longer, right,
Speaker 1: so that they just they'd last a little bit longer,
Speaker 1: these wide receivers than the running backs. But because there
Speaker 1: are so this class of wide receivers is so deep,
Speaker 1: you can afford to take these running backs even if
Speaker 1: they're not the upper echelon sa Kuon Barkley's and guys
Speaker 1: like that coming into this draft. Am I right on that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I don't like hate this receiver class at all.
Speaker 1: I like it, no one. Yeah, I think Garrett Wilson
Speaker 1: is going to be solid. I actually have Chris Olive
Speaker 1: as my highest graded NFL receiver because I think he's
Speaker 1: the most Paulsian ready to come in. But you have
Speaker 1: question marks with Drake London a Lave's age breakout. Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson actually probably had the best combine of all these receivers.
Speaker 1: But at the running back position, it's like, gimme Bruce,
Speaker 1: gimme Kenneth, and then I'm just gonna start hammering receivers later.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of athletes at the receiver position
Speaker 1: that we can get in round two, round three. And
Speaker 1: so that's what if if I had the first if
Speaker 1: I had these two picks in a rookie draft, I
Speaker 1: didn't have any more picks until later. Second, this is
Speaker 1: where I would go with these picks, especially in super
Speaker 1: flexas you more about the quarterbacks, I guess because yeah,
Speaker 1: and generally be like, let's go quarterback, Let's go quarterback,
Speaker 1: But like, I'm not confident that you know Picket's going
Speaker 1: to be in the best spot. Maybe Pickett goes to
Speaker 1: Carolina and he doesn't even start week one, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: I think that's in the range of possibilities where he
Speaker 1: goes somewhere where he doesn't play. Sam Howell getting pushed
Speaker 1: down to round two in mock drafts, like Ritter like,
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of guarantees after Malik Willis
Speaker 1: to be honest, yeah, Pat, are you are you in
Speaker 1: that as well? Or we know the wide receivers last long,
Speaker 1: but there's just so few running backs and so many
Speaker 1: good wide receivers here that and like you know, Cody
Speaker 1: mentioned the quarterback class has big questions, so taking running
Speaker 1: backs is just not that surprising here, right, Yeah, Cody's
Speaker 1: point about presisitional scarcity here really holds up. And there
Speaker 1: are going to be some good running backs who come
Speaker 1: from the lower part of the draft, but we just
Speaker 1: don't know who. Like they're no great percentage plays. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be some guys going on Day three who hits,
Speaker 1: but it's just no single guy is a great bat there.
Speaker 1: So I totally understand and I agree with the player
Speaker 1: profiler take that it's basically haul on his own tier
Speaker 1: Walker on his own tier and then other guys. And
Speaker 1: I know it bothers some people that Walker didn't really
Speaker 1: catch a lot of passes in college, but Michigan State
Speaker 1: didn't really do that. And when you had the kind
Speaker 1: of rushing season he had, who cares? It shouldn't really
Speaker 1: bother anyone that he had just one year of production
Speaker 1: after the transfer from Wake Forest. So I'm totally on
Speaker 1: board with that pick. I wouldn't done the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay for my go ahead, Cody, you got more. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say when you when you compare that,
Speaker 1: Matt has been referencing to Melvin Gordon, who in four
Speaker 1: seasons that Wisconsin had twenty two receptions. So that's another
Speaker 1: guy that you know was prolific, comes in and didn't
Speaker 1: have the receptions, but he could still do it. He
Speaker 1: can still do just because they didn't use it that way.
Speaker 1: And again with with with the tier things, such a
Speaker 1: good there's only two running backs that we're talking about
Speaker 1: with potential NFL Round one. I'm not saying they're gonna
Speaker 1: go round, but conversations have been had about running backs
Speaker 1: Quinn run. When it's only these two guys, it's not
Speaker 1: anybody else so I'm gonna if I'm gonna plant the
Speaker 1: flag on anybody in this draft at the running back position,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be these two guys, right Yeah. And like
Speaker 1: you said, I mean, Leonard Fournette was one of those
Speaker 1: guys who was just an unbelievable athlete trying to figure
Speaker 1: out the running back position when he came into the NFL.
Speaker 1: And so he didn't have that many catches in college. Plus,
Speaker 1: I mean, Elis, you had real bad quarterback issues until
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got there. You know. That's why guys like
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry weren't as hyped coming into
Speaker 1: the league as they were. You know, a year after
Speaker 1: being in the league, they ended up better pros than
Speaker 1: they were in college, just because they didn't have you know,
Speaker 1: I think they had Zackmtenburger thrown to them or whoever
Speaker 1: at that point. So, you know, Leonard Fournett's a guy
Speaker 1: that most people thought had frying pans for hands. And
Speaker 1: we saw with Tom Brady who a guy was willing
Speaker 1: to throw him the ball. Dude can catch most of
Speaker 1: these guys. It's just repetition. It's just something that we
Speaker 1: don't see out of you know college offenses. Ohio State
Speaker 1: runs the same stuff. You know, It's why Urban Meyer
Speaker 1: didn't work in the NFL. You can't run the same
Speaker 1: seven plays out of different formations like you're playing Madden
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know it's different. So for my
Speaker 1: next pick, I'm going into this wide receiver pool, I'm
Speaker 1: going to the Ohio State University and I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. You know, the wide receiver class is so
Speaker 1: deep it's hard to separate. I think personally, I like
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams a little bit more coming off a major
Speaker 1: injury going into this process. We don't know how much
Speaker 1: of this season, if any, he's going to miss. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: miss a lot of time, but one set back sets
Speaker 1: you back for a couple of months. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: the long haul Garrett Wilson. As you mentioned, Cody had
Speaker 1: the best combine in any of these wide receivers. The
Speaker 1: dude is an absolute stud and he was overshadowed a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, by Chris o'lavey and his unbelievable production.
Speaker 1: They have great you know, c J. Stroud is awesome.
Speaker 1: He was in the mix for the Heisman as well.
Speaker 1: The running backs there at Ohio State have always been good,
Speaker 1: so um, you know, but I think this guy. You
Speaker 1: just see him and he looks different with big ten
Speaker 1: athletes on the field and he's running past them, running
Speaker 1: through them, dancing around. I mean, this guy is an
Speaker 1: incredible wide receiver and it's hard to separate in this class,
Speaker 1: but I am going to have. UM, I am going
Speaker 1: to have Garrett Wilson probably as my number two wide
Speaker 1: receiver behind Traylon Burke. So, Cody, your thoughts on Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1: I love Garrett Wilson. UM, I think he's, you know,
Speaker 1: next two as far as being pro ready next to
Speaker 1: Chris Olave. I think it's Garrett Wilson have him as
Speaker 1: the number two receiver. I think he's a great has
Speaker 1: a great catch radius, athletic enough to come across the formation,
Speaker 1: good route runner, not the smoothest, but he can get there.
Speaker 1: The difference I had between Olava and Wilson was when
Speaker 1: we were at the combine watching him run the gauntlet drill.
Speaker 1: Olave was just much more crisp. Alex alluded to Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham of years past running that gauntlet drill just being crisp,
Speaker 1: not leaving that line, because you remember when they joined
Speaker 1: the gauntlets sideline the sideline on the white line, A
Speaker 1: lot of it didn't leave it. Wilson was a little hesitant,
Speaker 1: but I mean, these guys are so good. They played together.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's really tough to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: to measure two guys on the field together because they
Speaker 1: can't dominate like you could have seen. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess with Jamar and Justine Jefferson they did, but
Speaker 1: it was kind of different because Jamar took the year off.
Speaker 1: But again, I love Garrett Wilson. I'd love Chris Alava.
Speaker 1: That would have been my next pick had you not
Speaker 1: taken him. So I gotta great pick. Thank you, Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Pat your thoughts on Garrett Wilson here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the gauntlet. Darrell Cody. He did that weird
Speaker 1: thing where he jumped every time he caught the ball too.
Speaker 1: He sort of left his feet, which was just strange.
Speaker 1: But hey, I mean, it's not really a natural It's
Speaker 1: not the same as running a route and catching the ball,
Speaker 1: So maybe it was just sort of some weird little
Speaker 1: quirk he had there. But I like it. I would
Speaker 1: have taken Wilson too. Just a slippery slot guy. That's
Speaker 1: what he's going to be in the NFL. And like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. You're up again here? What
Speaker 1: position is it going to be? Yeah, one oh six.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it a second straight Ohio State receiver.
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about him in chrisso Lave. Like
Speaker 1: Cody said, I think he's going to translate so easily
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Just he's a craftsman as a route runner,
Speaker 1: and we have seen that for three years. And although
Speaker 1: he hasn't had a thousand yards season, well, he certainly
Speaker 1: would have had one in twenty twenty if not for
Speaker 1: Ohio State only playing seven games in the COVID shortened season.
Speaker 1: Speed route running, it's not going to take much of
Speaker 1: an adjustment for a Lava, and I love him as
Speaker 1: a guy who can take the lid off at defense,
Speaker 1: as a guy who's going to be where his quarterback
Speaker 1: wants him to be. Pair him with Justin Fields, his
Speaker 1: old quarterback in Chicago. Pair him with Aaron Rodgers, who
Speaker 1: might not trust a rookie receiver unless he is a
Speaker 1: guy who you know, if he's running a certain out
Speaker 1: where he has to be at an eight yard depth,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wants you at that eight yard depth and
Speaker 1: not ten yards or six yards. And I think Olave
Speaker 1: is not that kind of receiver, just a true pro.
Speaker 1: And as Cody said, I think the transition is going
Speaker 1: to be really easy for him. Yeah, Cody, the word
Speaker 1: technician as a route runner has been used for Christo
Speaker 1: Laves several times. So this is absolutely an excellent pick.
Speaker 1: And remember Jamison Williams transferred out of Ohio State. He
Speaker 1: was there with both those guys. So this class for
Speaker 1: Ohio State just unbelievable. And um, you know Chris Olave
Speaker 1: is going to go in the first round one hundred percent. Lock.
Speaker 1: I agree with that one. It's I've said, I've said
Speaker 1: what I've said about a Lave. I agree with that
Speaker 1: which running savant. He hit the nail round in the head.
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Would you lay money on him
Speaker 1: being the first wide receiver off the board Olave? No?
Speaker 1: I would. I would put more money on London or
Speaker 1: Wilson going first. Will in London. Just just from hearing
Speaker 1: some of the the Jets conversation hasn't went away from
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah and Todd McShay, who are the most two
Speaker 1: dialed in guys with the Jets. Jeremiah's friends with Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas obviously, and that's one of the guys that they've
Speaker 1: been pushing for it. I don't get it quite fun
Speaker 1: quite honestly. We've talked Matt about this a couple of times.
Speaker 1: But because they have Corey Davis, they have Denzel Mims.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the fact that they want to have
Speaker 1: a cemented big guy in this offense at all times.
Speaker 1: And last year you saw Mims obviously didn't do much.
Speaker 1: Corey Davis got hurt and they really relied on a
Speaker 1: bunch of little guys. Maybe that's what it is. They
Speaker 1: just they had the luxury having two top ten picks.
Speaker 1: Maybe they use that pick on London. That would be
Speaker 1: where I would put my money. I guess at this
Speaker 1: point that's very interesting. And with that, you are the
Speaker 1: next pick up here. And so we have a little
Speaker 1: run here. We had you know, running back quarterback, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: then running back wide receiver, wide receiver. So we know
Speaker 1: you're not taking running back here because we talked about separators.
Speaker 1: So you're diving into a new position. Where what's it
Speaker 1: going to be here? The receiver I'm going with is
Speaker 1: the guy we just talked about, Drake London. He's getting
Speaker 1: talked about going tent over all the Jets. There's a
Speaker 1: couple other spots he could go in there. He's not
Speaker 1: getting a lot of talk right now because he did
Speaker 1: not compete at the combine. He showed up two hundred
Speaker 1: nineteen pounds. He did look a little bit more slight
Speaker 1: than I expected. I thought him to be a little
Speaker 1: bit bigger. Obviously in comparison to like a DK Metcalf,
Speaker 1: He's not going to be that jack, but he was
Speaker 1: a little more slender. He was talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: playing basketball and being a bit in like still wanting
Speaker 1: to play basketball, which was kind of a weird thing
Speaker 1: for him to say. But he's going to do his
Speaker 1: own pro day in April. He's not going to be
Speaker 1: at the USC Pro day, so hopefully he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a hundred percent healthy. We're going to get to see
Speaker 1: him test out. That's the only question mark I have.
Speaker 1: But Drake London is my pick. As I said before,
Speaker 1: five hundred yards receiving as a freshman with Pittman, monros
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Tyler Vaughn's on the field. This guy is
Speaker 1: still twenty years old and has an eighteen point one
Speaker 1: ninety nine percentile breakout age. Yeah, I mean, Draank London
Speaker 1: is an absolute stud and the factor in his game
Speaker 1: is and it's a lot. I mean, it's probably just
Speaker 1: because they were the same uniform, but uh, Michael Pittman,
Speaker 1: I just see a lot of Michael Pittman in his game.
Speaker 1: Just that guy that he's gonna box out. That's why
Speaker 1: he talks about basketball. He's gonna box out of safety,
Speaker 1: a linebacker, a corner because he's six five, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's a big dude. He's got great hands. He's
Speaker 1: gonna rip that ball out of the air. But the
Speaker 1: problem with these big wide receivers is they're usually somewhere
Speaker 1: between Mike Evans, who just is one of the best
Speaker 1: ever in terms of size and going up and getting
Speaker 1: the ball and winning without a ton of speed. Is
Speaker 1: that guy or Nick Hill Harry Right, That's well, that's
Speaker 1: the window that we have for these big guys, which
Speaker 1: is why some of these other guys, uh, you know
Speaker 1: went ahead of Drake London for us but if it was,
Speaker 1: you know, if this is a class from two or
Speaker 1: three seasons ago, Drake London is gonna be very very
Speaker 1: high on the boards. It's just with Olave and Birks
Speaker 1: and you know, Jamison William and all these So the guys,
Speaker 1: it's hard to separate. So, uh, Pat your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Drake London going here? Yeah? Why is it always the
Speaker 1: big guys who whose separation we worry about? The rebounder guys?
Speaker 1: Why are they always packed ten dudes like Nikola, Harry
Speaker 1: j Yeah, Michael Pittman. So remember when they said JJ
Speaker 1: ran a four four at his pro day? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: is anyone ever gonna trust a pro day ever? Again?
Speaker 1: Like the guy had to take seven steps to slow
Speaker 1: down jj R Thaga Whiteside. So it's just no way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the contested catch guys like I don't think
Speaker 1: London is going to fit that fall into that well. Um,
Speaker 1: Like I believe in the talent too, and I make
Speaker 1: the middle of the first round of a super flex
Speaker 1: draft is exactly where he should go. So not my
Speaker 1: favorite receiver in this class, but one of the really
Speaker 1: good ones. And we've talked about this, Boggan I mean,
Speaker 1: there was no size in last year's class. It was
Speaker 1: a bunch of slot. It's good, good class to get
Speaker 1: a slot receiver. There's some size in this class, and
Speaker 1: London typifies that. I'm gonna round out the upper echelon
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers with my pick here, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to take Jamison Williams out of Alabama, who just
Speaker 1: to pull the curtain back. If he didn't have the injury,
Speaker 1: he would have been my number one QB or wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Excuse me on this board, because you can't teach speed.
Speaker 1: You can't teach it, and he is so fast, and
Speaker 1: everyone talked about, you know, it was I believe it
Speaker 1: was Mark Ross's first time ever running the forty yard
Speaker 1: yard dash clock right. So Charlie Cassily had done it
Speaker 1: for I think seventeen years or whatever leading up to
Speaker 1: this class. Cassually of course retired now and we saw
Speaker 1: a lot of times get wonky real fast. And someone
Speaker 1: had mentioned if Jamison Williams was running a forty today,
Speaker 1: he would have ran a three nine eight with the
Speaker 1: way these times times are going, because there's just something
Speaker 1: about this speed. Now, look, we've seen some speed guys
Speaker 1: not work out Henry Ruggs. They just couldn't get the
Speaker 1: ball to him in Vegas, right, and obviously he had
Speaker 1: off the field stuff and he has gone now. John
Speaker 1: Metchi also got hurt. We've seen speed guys, you know,
Speaker 1: just like we mentioned with Drake London, there's and how
Speaker 1: nikkil Harry is bad. And I was all in on
Speaker 1: Nikkil Harry. I thought it was gonna be great. You know,
Speaker 1: We've seen the speed guys not succeed. Ruggs wasn't very successful,
Speaker 1: John Ross wasn't very successful. But Jamison Williams is so
Speaker 1: much more than just speed. He's speed plus good route running.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not Chris Olava, but you know he's
Speaker 1: also not Sean Ross. Dude can run routes, he can
Speaker 1: find the holes in zones as well, and he just
Speaker 1: looks faster. There's a difference. I love Johan Dotson and
Speaker 1: he looks like the fastest guy on the field whenever
Speaker 1: you watch him. But there's a difference between doing it
Speaker 1: against big ten guys and doing it against SEC guys.
Speaker 1: And we saw him do it against both of them
Speaker 1: because he routinely torched guys for Ohio State Transfers, Alabama
Speaker 1: did it against the upper echel and best defensive backs
Speaker 1: in college football last season, and it was the best
Speaker 1: wide receiver on that team. So I love Jamison Williams.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he fell this far, you know,
Speaker 1: and you may be able to get a discount on
Speaker 1: him because of his injury going into your draft. So, Cody,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Jamison Williams here? I like him.
Speaker 1: I like the value you just got at the combine.
Speaker 1: In the interviews, I got speed you can't teach as
Speaker 1: the words that came out of his mouth, and he
Speaker 1: just loved that confidence. He said he was also six
Speaker 1: weeks post op and he was walking. And then when
Speaker 1: he walked off the podium, I stood right behind him
Speaker 1: and I watched him walk. There was no hitching his step,
Speaker 1: everything was fine. He said he's working on jogging in
Speaker 1: the pool already. So I mean, we're talking six seven
Speaker 1: weeks post ACL surgery and he's walking and training. So
Speaker 1: he said he wasn't going to force anything to come
Speaker 1: back to camp, But I mean, this is an insane
Speaker 1: value for a guy that could be ready for Week
Speaker 1: one of the NFL season as a rookie. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna miss camp whatever. But um, like you said, great
Speaker 1: separation near the line of scrimmage, I thought, incredible body
Speaker 1: contortions and great catches, great radius. Um, he's just a
Speaker 1: good receiver all around. And the two guys that I
Speaker 1: had closest comparable for me was Ridley Devanta Smith. And
Speaker 1: it's easy because it's the Obama guys. But that's that
Speaker 1: exact mold that he played in college, say exact mold
Speaker 1: that he's playing in size speed. The speed's obviously a
Speaker 1: little better than those other guys, but um, if that's
Speaker 1: the only difference is he has more speed than them.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like what I saw, and that's I mean,
Speaker 1: those comps get stuck in my head too. Like I
Speaker 1: just said, the Michael Pittman and Drake London, right, they
Speaker 1: because the same the same uniform. They kind of they
Speaker 1: kind of get in there. But you know, look, they're
Speaker 1: they're taught by a lot of the same people, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of the same skill sets too.
Speaker 1: So uh, fits, what do you think about Jamison Williams here?
Speaker 1: If he last to the Packers, and I'm a Packers fan,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing shots of Jamison all night underraft
Speaker 1: night because I would love to see that pairing with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and that's a possibility. Because of the
Speaker 1: injury Right's he probably is gonna slip to late in
Speaker 1: the first round. Tyreek Hill type difference making speed. Can
Speaker 1: you imagine him in Kansas City? He better not go
Speaker 1: to Kansas Like I can't happen. I mean, yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: I mean him just one formation of Hill, Williams and
Speaker 1: Hardman on the field together with Kelsey as its height end.
Speaker 1: I mean, it might as well just run a cross
Speaker 1: country relay at that point. Team out there. So these
Speaker 1: are things that can possibly happen. So fits your third
Speaker 1: pick in round one? Who's it going to be? Listeners
Speaker 1: know how I feel about this quarterback class, and I'm
Speaker 1: just not ready to go here. And maybe some people
Speaker 1: do think there are future starters in this class. I
Speaker 1: think it is a class full of Case keenums and
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy's and Jacoby burssets and Tyrod Taylor's. Like yeah, man, Like,
Speaker 1: maybe we do need some replenishment of the ranks of
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks in the NFL, because there's some guys. There
Speaker 1: were some really weak number twos in the League last year,
Speaker 1: so maybe it's a good thing we're getting this kind
Speaker 1: of class, But I'm worried about some of these guys,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure who had bet on other than
Speaker 1: maybe willis as better than a fifty fifty chance to
Speaker 1: be a starter in twenty twenty four, Like yeah, a
Speaker 1: couple of years from now. So there's no one I'm
Speaker 1: willing to bet on. So I'm going running back here.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that third guy, Like, I don't love the value,
Speaker 1: but Isaiah Spiller, I mean, three years pretty solid, production
Speaker 1: runs angry. I like the size. It's like six zero
Speaker 1: two seventeen. That's pretty close to I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe ideal is more like six one to twenty,
Speaker 1: but pretty close to that, I don't know. And hey,
Speaker 1: some people had him in a dead heat with Breece
Speaker 1: Hall going into the combine, but you know, Hall lights
Speaker 1: it up there and Spiller sits because I think it
Speaker 1: was what strained abductor muscle or something like that, and
Speaker 1: didn't do a lot. But people are maybe knocking him
Speaker 1: down a little bit too far because of his non
Speaker 1: combine participation, and I guess I'm taking him here since
Speaker 1: I just do not like the value it either wide
Speaker 1: receiver quarterback at one O nine still a big time
Speaker 1: SEC back with a career of production at in the
Speaker 1: college ranks, Cody and you know, Spiller is a guy
Speaker 1: like Fitz mentioned, not great combine numbers. The strained ab
Speaker 1: obviously did not help him. But I think landing spot
Speaker 1: for all these guys is going to matter a lot.
Speaker 1: But we've seen way worse running backs have successful seasons
Speaker 1: in the NFL than Isaiah Spiller, so there is still
Speaker 1: tons of upside. But the problem is is, you know,
Speaker 1: with Breece Hall, Kenny Walker, those guys are gonna be
Speaker 1: successful no matter where they land. I think with the
Speaker 1: rest of the guys, it's a lot is gonna be
Speaker 1: writing on landing spot correct, I would say, yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean the Isaiah Spiller thing. He's getting knocked down again
Speaker 1: because of the injury and not showing up at the combine.
Speaker 1: I thought talking to him, he was not quite on
Speaker 1: the same level from a dog mentality or a positivity
Speaker 1: standpoint as like a Hall, a Walker or shod White
Speaker 1: those guys. But again, if he shows to his combine
Speaker 1: he doesn't run a four to six five, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be just fine. With him. You see Devin Singletary in
Speaker 1: the low four sixes, David Montgomery four six four. I
Speaker 1: think he can profile like a Montgomery and that's not
Speaker 1: a bad thing. So I think you got a solid
Speaker 1: value here and I don't hate it. But again, I
Speaker 1: Spiller just doesn't. That's why he's not in that same
Speaker 1: tier with like a Walker or a Hall, where before
Speaker 1: the combine maybe some people had him in there. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he's quite on that level. He's a great,
Speaker 1: very patient runner. I think he's solid, great hands, great receiver,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think he's on the same tier,
Speaker 1: same level. Yeah, and that's fair, you know. But like
Speaker 1: we said, running backs come and got you gotta take
Speaker 1: him eventually. So I completely understand the Spiller pick. So
Speaker 1: your last pick Cody in the first round, who's it
Speaker 1: gonna be? This is a tough one because we just
Speaker 1: talked about with the quarterbacks, like Pat alluded to, which
Speaker 1: quarterback do you think has the opportunity to be that
Speaker 1: guy in three years? In four years? And right now
Speaker 1: I got a couple. But I'm not over like I
Speaker 1: don't like you said fifty percent, I'm not over fifty
Speaker 1: percent confident in him. So that means I'm going receiver again,
Speaker 1: and I'm going with who I loaded too as the
Speaker 1: most talented receiver in this class. He's got burned. He's
Speaker 1: a separator, and he ran in the four fours. Just
Speaker 1: one year post ACL he did play in the National championship.
Speaker 1: Give me George Pickens from Georgia. I think I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you I love George Pickens. And he's right after
Speaker 1: the guys that we mentioned. For me, he's in that tier.
Speaker 1: I think I had Metchi ahead. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put Pickens ahead of Metschi here. And like you said,
Speaker 1: those numbers they're not eye popping for two reasons. Number
Speaker 1: one is because so many guys put up unbelievable historic
Speaker 1: numbers and they you know, the numbers were disappointing, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up air quotes after we got the
Speaker 1: real times, but they're still amazing times, you know. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Chris Olave probably should have ran that second forty because
Speaker 1: it wasn't actually a four to two nine, you know,
Speaker 1: or whatever he had run the first time, which ended
Speaker 1: up being I think like a four three nine or
Speaker 1: four for one or something. It just wasn't historic right.
Speaker 1: So but Pickens, Pickens flew under the radar because he's
Speaker 1: running all these things less than a year removed from
Speaker 1: his ACL surgery, which is just insanity for a guy
Speaker 1: his size. So Pickens is a guy that's I feel like,
Speaker 1: is completely underrated in this process. So I loved this pick. Fits.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Pickens? Yeah, it's a shame
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see what Pickens could fully do
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, And like, if you go back
Speaker 1: to what he did, he could have easily been a
Speaker 1: top five pick, top three pick, depending on like if
Speaker 1: we had gotten a full season out of him. So
Speaker 1: the value here is fantastic. All right, So my last
Speaker 1: pick in the second round or in the first round,
Speaker 1: excuse me here, I am going to go back to
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Well, now, I don't know that any of
Speaker 1: these guys has a better than fifty fifty shot, right,
Speaker 1: But I know in a super flex league, I have
Speaker 1: won I have won many a trade by hoarding quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I just hoard them. I hold them because there is
Speaker 1: a finite amount. There's only thirty two. How many of
Speaker 1: the thirty two are good? Not many? So many people
Speaker 1: like right now, you're gonna see people scrambling to trade
Speaker 1: for Mitchell Trubisky, and we know Mitchell Trubisky is middle
Speaker 1: of the road as far as NFL QBS go. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he can't win a super Bowl or win you
Speaker 1: some some fantasy leagues here, but he's middle of the road.
Speaker 1: I think in terms of these QB's, Kenny Pickett is
Speaker 1: my favorite here, but for fantasy, I think Sam Howell
Speaker 1: just has so much more upside in the run game
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go ahead and snap him up here.
Speaker 1: It looks like I got angry looks from both of
Speaker 1: you with this pick, which I kind of like, kind
Speaker 1: of makes me feel like I did a good job there.
Speaker 1: Particularly you fits the upside when he runs, he looks
Speaker 1: like a just a smaller version of Tim Tebow to me,
Speaker 1: which I know, you know, any comparison to Tim Tebow,
Speaker 1: it's gonna make people roll their eyes. But it's got
Speaker 1: a way better arm than Tim Tebow ever had. And
Speaker 1: he's a writing not a lefty, so he's not unconventional,
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't have those little ticks in his livery
Speaker 1: that Tim Tebow had as well, So like clean better
Speaker 1: arm tim Tebow from Sam Howe is the upside here.
Speaker 1: Have no idea if he'll see the field anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't know where he's going to be drafted,
Speaker 1: but I do think in terms of fantasy and potential,
Speaker 1: he is higher than Pickett and the other guys on
Speaker 1: this list outside of Willis. Of course, so fits your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Sam Howe. My thought as I'm upset at you,
Speaker 1: Bogman for doing that, because that's what I wanted, And like,
Speaker 1: if you're just playing the percentages here, the guy who
Speaker 1: produced early in a major conference, a guy who produced
Speaker 1: as a freshman, put up good numbers right away, unlike
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, who took what fifth year before he really
Speaker 1: did anything. Great production his first couple of years. A
Speaker 1: little bit of a drop off in year three, but
Speaker 1: we've talked about why he lost. Javonte Williams, Michael Carter,
Speaker 1: Dammy Brown. Dat's knew easy to understand the drop off.
Speaker 1: And you know, I didn't love the way he played
Speaker 1: in the actual Senior Bowl game, where it looked like
Speaker 1: he made about three or four turnover worthy plays. But like,
Speaker 1: I do think he is the like he's number two
Speaker 1: for me at quarterback two, So I think this is
Speaker 1: a great a great pack. The Senior Bowls a fun event,
Speaker 1: But I mean the practices is what right? Right? The
Speaker 1: game doesn't mean much? Yeah, I mean guys that you're
Speaker 1: practicing with for a week can't really come together in jail.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you stand out in that game, you
Speaker 1: can get a lot of love. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: absolutely sold on a Mirabdulah because he had an amazing
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and had an amazing Week one for Detroit too,
Speaker 1: but obviously didn't look good after that. But I think
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Cody back some memories here of a Mirabdulah.
Speaker 1: But your thoughts on Sam Howe and him being the
Speaker 1: second QB off the board, I'll jump into Sam Howe.
Speaker 1: But exactly what you just said, I asked, Alex, don't
Speaker 1: that the same question? I said, why are we leaving
Speaker 1: on Friday of Senior Bowl with the game Saturday? He goes,
Speaker 1: we don't stay for Saturdays? I said, why, he goes,
Speaker 1: because if we stayed for Saturdays, Isaiah Pete would have
Speaker 1: been a number one running back. And I was like,
Speaker 1: so you don't because of the same much more than that.
Speaker 1: So that worked for me. Um, So yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: you on the amerab do the thing. And then again
Speaker 1: it happens every year with that, with the games like that,
Speaker 1: some guys just show up for the games. Letta won
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, you know, MVP a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and I think he's in the USFL now, So you
Speaker 1: guys gonna say he was with the Giants for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and then he was So I mean
Speaker 1: it happens. But back to Sam Howell, what you just said.
Speaker 1: The rushing ability I love and that's something that Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield had in college at something Donovan McNabb had in college.
Speaker 1: And those are two guys that I look at, Um.
Speaker 1: I think you look at a Mayfield with a better
Speaker 1: downfield arm and may Field have a terrible downfield arm. Um,
Speaker 1: And that's what I look at. With Sam Howell. I
Speaker 1: have him QB two right after Malik Willis in my
Speaker 1: overall NFL grades. And yeah, I mean that would have
Speaker 1: been that was actually gonna be my next pick. It
Speaker 1: kind of was between these two quarterbacks and you made
Speaker 1: the pick for me. So Um, I really do like
Speaker 1: Sam Howell. The hundred rushing yards and was in question
Speaker 1: at the NFL combine. They asked him, you know, why
Speaker 1: wasn't the passing on the same level as the year's past.
Speaker 1: We know the talent left, but how come it dropped off?
Speaker 1: And he said, because we worked in different quadrants. When
Speaker 1: we had the outside talents and Damie and Daz, you
Speaker 1: could go down field. And he still went down field
Speaker 1: the Josh downs. But yeah, when those guys are gone,
Speaker 1: you work more in the middle quadrants. More of what
Speaker 1: you do in the NFL is working those middle quadrants.
Speaker 1: So that's what he did, and he ran the ball,
Speaker 1: showed that he could and he's a bruiser when he
Speaker 1: runs the ball. There's a lot of that. He made it.
Speaker 1: He made his own, like a spin move where it's
Speaker 1: an aggressive one where he knows he's going to run
Speaker 1: India and instead of just trucking you over, he puts
Speaker 1: a spin in it. It's kind of weird, but I
Speaker 1: like Sam Howell. I like his energy. He's been very
Speaker 1: low key, hasn't been like a over outgoing or anything like.
Speaker 1: He hasn't tried to be more than what he is
Speaker 1: at any of these events that I've noticed. So I
Speaker 1: still like Sam Howell. I'm still in the Sam Howell train.
Speaker 1: All right, last pick in the first round for Pat
Speaker 1: who's going to be the last first rounder off the
Speaker 1: board here? Yeah, just like one O nine was an
Speaker 1: uncomfortable spot, one twelve, it is pretty uncomfortable here with
Speaker 1: you taking howl away from me, Bog. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Kenny Pickett. Man, It's it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to tout this pick when I feel like Picket is
Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys who's either a
Speaker 1: really good backup or the kind of starter you're looking
Speaker 1: to replace. And that's kind of where I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna land. But just the nature of super flex, he
Speaker 1: gets pushed up the board here because they're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a receiver I'm confident in has
Speaker 1: superstar potential here. There's still some my like out there,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think there's a surefire superstar looking
Speaker 1: guy left. So I'm gonna take Pickett. I do think
Speaker 1: he's sort of got the makeup where I think he's
Speaker 1: going to maximize his ability, whatever that may be. I
Speaker 1: think despite the small hands, despite the late breakout, the
Speaker 1: really late breakout at Pittsburgh, like, I think he is
Speaker 1: going to be the kind of guy coaches like. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so even though I'm not crazy about the ceiling here,
Speaker 1: I think the floor is pretty respectable. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: pick it's still a first round pick in the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna fall. And you know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to see the Steelers snap him up
Speaker 1: at pick number twenty. Played at pitt You know, that
Speaker 1: was something Brady Quinn brought up ice on interview with
Speaker 1: him on PFF, you know where they were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, well he's got the small hands in the
Speaker 1: cold weather and blah blah blah, and he said, well,
Speaker 1: if only we had you know, a you know, a
Speaker 1: three year sample size of him playing at Hines Field
Speaker 1: in the bad weather, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Kenny Pickett can still get it done. Plus,
Speaker 1: like you said, this is a super flex mok and
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Once again, just to reiterate and hit home,
Speaker 1: if you're looking, if you have a super flex league,
Speaker 1: you're looking in this rookie mock and you don't like
Speaker 1: the skill position players so you think it's too early
Speaker 1: to take one. Always take a quarterback because you can
Speaker 1: sell them for way more than they're worth, even if
Speaker 1: they're backups most in most cases. So you know, I
Speaker 1: think Kenny Pickett is a good pick here, whether you
Speaker 1: like him or not, just in terms of trading him
Speaker 1: as well and him holding value. I got, you know,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz sucks. Everybody knows that, but I've got people
Speaker 1: hitting me up for him because he's a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL for Washington now, so you know, it
Speaker 1: just works. So Cody, your thoughts on Kenny Pickett. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like Kenny Pickett. He's good at everything. He's not
Speaker 1: great at anything. He can run, obviously he's showing that,
Speaker 1: but again, you gotta love the first percentile hands. And
Speaker 1: where I kind of fall in line with Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: and as a small jeb, but where I kind of
Speaker 1: fall in line is like he's somewhere in between like
Speaker 1: Drew Lock and Derek Carr, Like is he gonna be
Speaker 1: Derek Carr? You said, you know he's gonna He's gonna
Speaker 1: fulfill everything he can do, And I think his ceiling
Speaker 1: isn't that Derek Carr area. And I don't think Derek
Speaker 1: Car's a bad quarterback, And I think his floor is
Speaker 1: the Drew Lock area. He's got the speed of Drew Lock,
Speaker 1: the size, the hands, everything aligns with Drew Lock, and
Speaker 1: I think he starts at that spot where it's he
Speaker 1: comes in equivalent to Drew Lock, and then it's like,
Speaker 1: can you grow into a Derek car That's kind of
Speaker 1: how I look at Kenny Pickett. So I don't I
Speaker 1: don't hate to pick either. And then again, you're closing
Speaker 1: out round one in a super flex, getting possibly the
Speaker 1: first quarterback off the board in the NFL draft, right yeah,
Speaker 1: so very very good value, and we're gonna move down
Speaker 1: to the second round. Like we said, it's not going
Speaker 1: to snake Cody. You are up with the first pick
Speaker 1: in the second round. So just to break down the
Speaker 1: first round once again, three quarterbacks. That would be two
Speaker 1: running backs and seven wide outs, so lots of whiteouts gone.
Speaker 1: Who is going to be number one pick in the
Speaker 1: second round for you? So you start out one on
Speaker 1: one of the super flex and you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, but instead you go running back and
Speaker 1: you come back at the two oh one and super
Speaker 1: flex and you take that quarterback right there with Desmond
Speaker 1: Ritter sixty three two oh seven ninety seven percent forty
Speaker 1: yard dash four five two unreal. Again, this guy started
Speaker 1: a boatload of games in college. He's got the speed,
Speaker 1: he's got the arm. The arm isn't overpowering, but he
Speaker 1: can make all the throws. And right now, if you
Speaker 1: look at the NFL draft index over on player profile
Speaker 1: dot com, he's mocked at the thirty four spot. Thirty
Speaker 1: four point four is the average landing spot per NFL
Speaker 1: mocked drafts that would be in the Detroit Lions range.
Speaker 1: Somebody he said he was close comparable and he mocked
Speaker 1: himself after was Jared Goff. We have a Franken Coomp
Speaker 1: inside we haven't released yet of Tannehill slash gild Hurts
Speaker 1: type of guy, and we're ahead of consensus on Desmond Ritter.
Speaker 1: I've just been holding out on drafting him because I
Speaker 1: thought I could get him in the second round, and
Speaker 1: I did right here with Desmond Ritter at the two ze.
Speaker 1: Very very smart pick, especially if you know if there's
Speaker 1: a guy that stands out to you in this group,
Speaker 1: you know you might be able to wait for him,
Speaker 1: like you know, we just saw Sam how almost fall
Speaker 1: to the second round too, So fits your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. I was debated between pick it and Ritter,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to argue with a quarterback with four
Speaker 1: point five speed. And I know Andrew ericson a Fantasy
Speaker 1: pros made a very convincing argument to me the other
Speaker 1: day about why Ritter is maybe getting a little maybe
Speaker 1: a little underrated in fantasy drafts this year, especially super flex.
Speaker 1: So I like to pick a lot. I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of the mocks that I've seen that I love
Speaker 1: would be you know, that late pick for Detroit, you know,
Speaker 1: late in the first round, that very last pick. I
Speaker 1: think that would be a fantastic landing spot for him,
Speaker 1: because you know, they can't cut Jared Goffe. He makes
Speaker 1: too much money. So Jared Goff's at least going to
Speaker 1: start the year as the starter. So if they want
Speaker 1: to go ahead and hand the rains over Desmond Ritter,
Speaker 1: see what he has. You know, we do expect the
Speaker 1: lines to improve. They were in almost all their games
Speaker 1: this year, but still going to be picking very high
Speaker 1: in the draft in twenty twenty three as well, So
Speaker 1: at least take a look and see what you got
Speaker 1: in Desmond Ridder if they do draft him, of course,
Speaker 1: and then you know, work from there with that information.
Speaker 1: So I like that Desmond Rider pick my second pick,
Speaker 1: my first pick in the second round. Here, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do the strategy that I was talking about. I already
Speaker 1: took Malik Willis for this team number one, but I
Speaker 1: am going to hoard the quarterbacks because it's a strategy
Speaker 1: that I have done in the past, and I have
Speaker 1: seen it work. I have got way more than this
Speaker 1: draft spot value for a quarterback that I take at
Speaker 1: this draft spot in many many drafts. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the last quote unquote viable QB option off the board.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna snap up Matt carrall stick him on my team,
Speaker 1: and listen to trade offers when they come in. Look
Speaker 1: if Matt Caroll ends up somewhere like New Orleans, if
Speaker 1: they don't get Deshaun Watson or whatever. If he ends
Speaker 1: up in a place like Atlanta, where we know Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan is on his way out the door. If Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay doesn't like Kyle Traska decides to take him. You know,
Speaker 1: there are many spots Matt Carrel could end up and
Speaker 1: not be valuable this year, but hold a ton of
Speaker 1: value for the following season. So this is a spot
Speaker 1: where you take a guy in the second round. And
Speaker 1: I like Matt Carrel too. By the way, I think
Speaker 1: he's a little undersize. I six one. The arm is
Speaker 1: good enough, you know, not the most experienced enough experience.
Speaker 1: The guy can run as well. He's got running upside,
Speaker 1: obviously coming off the huge ankle injury he had in
Speaker 1: the ballgame there. But I think he can be a
Speaker 1: productive guy. Do I think he's gonna end up being
Speaker 1: a prolonged NFL starter? Probably not. He's probably more of
Speaker 1: a backup, but he's going to get a shot. And
Speaker 1: the most popular guy in town when you have a
Speaker 1: bad quarterback is always the backup. I think Matt Carroll
Speaker 1: could be one of those guys early in his career. So, Cody,
Speaker 1: what do you think not only of Matt Carrall, but
Speaker 1: doing the double up QB to hoard strategy here. I
Speaker 1: like the strategy of going and getting the double quarterback
Speaker 1: because exactly what you just said, as soon as he
Speaker 1: gets drafted, as soon as he you know, if he
Speaker 1: enters camp at in a place like maybe he goes
Speaker 1: to a Pittsburgh and people are like, oh, Trubisky is
Speaker 1: the starter, and then we'll guess what happens when Trubisky
Speaker 1: gets cut in camp because he you know whatever, Like
Speaker 1: we've seen things happen like that before, right, and then
Speaker 1: Correl's the number one, hands down. You just got incredible value.
Speaker 1: You got multiple first round picks out of a guy
Speaker 1: you just drafted the second round and super flex in fantasy.
Speaker 1: That's just kind of how things can happen. And I
Speaker 1: don't love Matt Correll, but it's it's value and it
Speaker 1: could be a possible starting quarterback in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: say a little bit of a Zach Wilson in him,
Speaker 1: a little reckless. I don't love his downfield throwing it.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is don't take this the wrong
Speaker 1: way because I know he said you like him, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he translates the translates the best to
Speaker 1: the NFL, just because of how kind of reckless he
Speaker 1: can get running the ball, not protecting himself. He's a
Speaker 1: little undersized, but you know he's been the guy, like
Speaker 1: you said during the Senior Bowl, it was you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Matt Carrell is the guy that kind of
Speaker 1: helped himself the most by not being here, and then
Speaker 1: it just didn't do much at the combine and it
Speaker 1: just kind of scared me off him a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's just a really tough quarterback
Speaker 1: for me to evaluate. I don't have him as high
Speaker 1: as a lot of people do. I have him actually
Speaker 1: below Malik Pickett, how and Ritter. Yeah, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: I don't like I like his attitude more than a
Speaker 1: skill set. You know. He does that have that that
Speaker 1: winning mentality, and he's a guy that I think that
Speaker 1: players will rally around, which is why I like him,
Speaker 1: you know, But I don't know. I kind of thought
Speaker 1: that the skill set was somewhat similar to Coulton McCoy
Speaker 1: coming out. I saw Colt McCoy with a little bit
Speaker 1: of a better arm. I think he's got a little
Speaker 1: more pop in zing in that arm than Colt had.
Speaker 1: So fits. What do you think about Matt Coroll and
Speaker 1: what do you think of that double up strategy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the strategy. I'm kind of with Cody though
Speaker 1: I don't really believe necessarily in Correll. But I also
Speaker 1: don't really trust my own ability to judge this QB
Speaker 1: class and who's going to be good in it or not.
Speaker 1: So to get one of the guys who who was
Speaker 1: a top five and maybe there's not all that much
Speaker 1: separation between this group, so value there for sure. I
Speaker 1: think in the second round, all right, fits your first
Speaker 1: pick in the second round, who's it going to be?
Speaker 1: I bet it's not a quarterback? Yeah. So this team
Speaker 1: went with Treylon Burke's in the first round, and now
Speaker 1: I'm going to go running back and I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Rashad White of Arizona States. Big sixteen touchdowns in
Speaker 1: eleven games his last year at ASU, six two two ten,
Speaker 1: good size, can catch passes, can protect, just well rounded.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna translate pretty well. Man. We talked
Speaker 1: about Tampa, like what if if Fournet doesn't sign and
Speaker 1: they get some sort of back here, and we know
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Ronald Jones because he can't do
Speaker 1: the things that Bruce arians demands, which is catch passes
Speaker 1: and pass block. But I think Rashad White could be
Speaker 1: that guy. Would be interesting to see them spend a
Speaker 1: pick there. That'd be a dream landing spot and I
Speaker 1: think that would push White into the first round. But
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a pretty good wherever he goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the most interesting thing. One of the most interesting things
Speaker 1: out of the combine I thought Cody was when Rashad
Speaker 1: White compared you know, they said who do you model
Speaker 1: your game? After he said Arian Foster? That was that
Speaker 1: was a fantastic answer. And when you watch him after
Speaker 1: hearing him say that, you watch him like, I can
Speaker 1: see it a little bit. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: gonna be Arian Foster. Obviously Foster was incredible, injuries kind
Speaker 1: of derailed his career. But your thoughts on Rashad White,
Speaker 1: It's funny you said that because I was literally the
Speaker 1: one that asked him that question. Nice it was. It
Speaker 1: was because going in I had Levon Bell as my
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's got incredible patients, fantastic hands
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. He runs a little upright, just
Speaker 1: like Bell did. He's not as large as Bells when
Speaker 1: he came out of Michigan State, but I think he's
Speaker 1: more like early career Levion. And when I asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, who do you mode your game? After he
Speaker 1: said Levon Bell and Arian Foster and so you know,
Speaker 1: And one of the other things he said was like
Speaker 1: I want to leave no doubt in my coach's mind
Speaker 1: that they can trust me on the field at all
Speaker 1: time times vision patients, and He's like, without that, you
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing in the NFL. And so I just
Speaker 1: like everything about him. I love I have him as
Speaker 1: my RB three in NFL grades. It's him and Zamir
Speaker 1: White back to back, So I mean, I love this
Speaker 1: value right here. That was literally my next pick, so
Speaker 1: great pick. Pat snapped him up. All right, So you
Speaker 1: are back on the clock for your second pick in
Speaker 1: around two, Cody, Who's gonna be this It's tougher now
Speaker 1: after you get pass for Shod because again, that was
Speaker 1: the guy I really wanted. I'm not gonna go receiver here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go running back, and I'm gonna lean for
Speaker 1: the athlete rather than maybe the draft kepit. I think
Speaker 1: both these guys are gonna go off the board very
Speaker 1: close to each other. I'm gonna go Zamir White. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the prospect, the four star, almost five
Speaker 1: star prospect out of high school. He runs that four
Speaker 1: to four. There's rumors around the combine that he is
Speaker 1: as healthy as he's ever been. Obviously at Georgia, he
Speaker 1: I think he had two torn acls at his time
Speaker 1: during his time out of high school through Georgia, and
Speaker 1: then he split the share with James Cook, who I
Speaker 1: think is the best receiving back in this draft class.
Speaker 1: So again, it's like this thing we always see is
Speaker 1: these Georgia backs getting less and less touches because there's
Speaker 1: so many guys there and they're promised when you come here,
Speaker 1: when you come here, we're gonna have you ready to
Speaker 1: go to the NFL. He just ran a four to four.
Speaker 1: He just added Nick Chubb to his list of comparables
Speaker 1: just because of it. And I mean, I love Zamir White.
Speaker 1: If he stays healthy, this guy has the upside of
Speaker 1: being the best running back in this class. I just
Speaker 1: said that. I know, Breese Hall, I get it. Zamir
Speaker 1: White has the talent to be the best. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing with George Pickens, though. These guys have the
Speaker 1: talent to be the best running backs in the class
Speaker 1: of role. It's just staying healthy and doing the damn thing.
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna end up with early third,
Speaker 1: late second round draft capital. Yeah, Zamir White definitely a
Speaker 1: guy that can be a better pro than a college player,
Speaker 1: like you said, because he could get the workload in
Speaker 1: the pros. I mean, Eli Mitchell is one of those
Speaker 1: guys who was in a three back system at Louis Zanna.
Speaker 1: He comes in the NFL and he's the second back
Speaker 1: quote unquote for the Niners. They give him the most carries.
Speaker 1: He only lasted eleven games because he hasn't taken a
Speaker 1: workload that big ever in college. But incredible production. I
Speaker 1: think the same can be said about Zamir White obviously
Speaker 1: has had a couple of injuries. Like you said, fits
Speaker 1: what is like a dream landing scenario for a guy
Speaker 1: like Zamir White and others of his ilk. You know,
Speaker 1: there's guy's like Brian Robinson his class for shod White
Speaker 1: another one you just mentioned Tampa Bay as one. I
Speaker 1: think Kansas City's always on the board, although they did
Speaker 1: just take Clyde Edwards a layer, so I don't think
Speaker 1: they'd be going running back. McKinnon looked great at the
Speaker 1: end of the year too, But who would what landing
Speaker 1: spot would you love to see a guy like Zamir
Speaker 1: White landing? You have any ones off the top of
Speaker 1: your head, pap Oh, Tampa and Kansas City or two
Speaker 1: my favorites. I still think there's room for someone in Miami,
Speaker 1: even with the Chase Edmonds signing. Man who else, like
Speaker 1: the Texan It's just like they need some somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know he's gonna get carries if he goes there.
Speaker 1: But I like that pick. And you know, I got
Speaker 1: admit I was doing some scouting on Cody before this.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the Player Profiler rookie rankings and
Speaker 1: I saw that in super Flex they have Zamir White.
Speaker 1: I think what fourteenth Cody? Is that right? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure in the Rookie super Flex rankings he's
Speaker 1: top fifteen for you guys. So man, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you, that's Josh Larky,
Speaker 1: that's Matt Kelly. So that is a meeting in the
Speaker 1: minds on that, and that's three minds I respect. So
Speaker 1: Zamir is a nice pick there, yeah, I mean Atlanta,
Speaker 1: just give them somebody to run the ball would be
Speaker 1: fantastic too. You know, just uh, either a landing spot
Speaker 1: where the offense is great or the options are abysmal
Speaker 1: is always good for a running back coming into the NFL. So, um,
Speaker 1: my next pick here, I'm just gonna go with talent.
Speaker 1: I think that Johan Dotson is by far the best
Speaker 1: player on Maybe not by far, but by a decent margin.
Speaker 1: I think he is the best player on the board
Speaker 1: right now. I know I took a wide receiver for
Speaker 1: this team already in Garrett Wilson. I'm just gonna assume
Speaker 1: that we're okay in terms of position scarcity. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take Jehan Dotson. Like I said, the guy looks different
Speaker 1: and this is against you know, Big ten athletes. Big
Speaker 1: ten isn't the SEC, but it's still one of the
Speaker 1: best conferences in college football. And Dotson makes those guys
Speaker 1: look like they're all running in quicksand by his speed
Speaker 1: he could snap off a route. Marcus Brown is a
Speaker 1: pretty decent comparison for Johan Dotson. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's as fast as Marquis, but I do like him
Speaker 1: getting in and out of his routes by snapping them
Speaker 1: off and by using that speed as a weapon. I
Speaker 1: really like Jehan Dotson. Problem with wide receivers is always
Speaker 1: landing spot right. It's different if you land in Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay or if you land in Detroit, of course, but
Speaker 1: I think that Johan Dotson is maybe. I think there's
Speaker 1: maybe two other guys that I think are going to
Speaker 1: be successful no matter the landing spot, but I think
Speaker 1: more is tied to the other guys in this class.
Speaker 1: So I think just in terms of skill, Johan Dotson
Speaker 1: is the best player on the board. Coding your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Johan Dotson. I like, I liked Johan Dotson going
Speaker 1: into the Senior Bowl and then he opted out. We
Speaker 1: had a lot of question marks. Is he going to
Speaker 1: come in? There was rumors of five to nine. He
Speaker 1: did come in at five to eleven at the combine,
Speaker 1: and then he runs a four to four three when
Speaker 1: there was conversations to four to three. I'm indifferent about him.
Speaker 1: I don't love him, I don't hate him. I'm just
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the road on Johan Dotson.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go round one. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys I like I said,
Speaker 1: like Kadarius Tony last year, we didn't expect it. We
Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna happen or should have happened.
Speaker 1: But I think Johan Dotson's gonna be the same guy
Speaker 1: that he's gonna go at the end of round one,
Speaker 1: maybe like a buffalo. I would love that situation where yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes in there with a Josh Allen, you got digs,
Speaker 1: you got Davis um. I think that would be a
Speaker 1: great spot for him. Make it the three DS dig
Speaker 1: Davison Dotson, let's go, you go. I like that. I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say Jalen Reagan and I was
Speaker 1: gonna boot you off this podcast. I'm glad you said
Speaker 1: Darius Tony so fits your thoughts on our guy John
Speaker 1: Dotson here. Yeah. I think I heard Greg Kosel comp
Speaker 1: him to Deontay Johnson with better hands, which would be
Speaker 1: quite a find in the middle of the second round
Speaker 1: of US. You have to say better hands. I mean,
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Box doesn't have better hands and Deontay Johnson,
Speaker 1: come on, Eric's the only one but Dotson. Dotson goes
Speaker 1: play fast, I mean yeah up here in Big ten country,
Speaker 1: and I saw him torch my badgers a couple of
Speaker 1: times on deep balls this past fall. So he is
Speaker 1: a fast dude. And I like to pick a lot there.
Speaker 1: I think that's good value. And you know, I was
Speaker 1: kind of contemplating him with that Rashad White pick at
Speaker 1: one h three or two oh three. So so at
Speaker 1: two h seven, Oh sorry it's Cody or no, no
Speaker 1: it is And man, I'm torn. I've got like three
Speaker 1: receivers I like here and I'm not sure if this
Speaker 1: is the right combin. I'm gonna go with Christian Watson.
Speaker 1: Take the size while it's there. The size speed combination
Speaker 1: really enticing. And what a postseason he has had with
Speaker 1: his senior ball performance. Apparently voted the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bawl I think by the cornerbacks who
Speaker 1: were there. Then goes out and lights it up in
Speaker 1: the combine. Yeah, the numbers weren't great at North Dakota States,
Speaker 1: but NFL bloodlines here and that was kind of a
Speaker 1: limiting offense, shall we say. So. I'm pretty excited about him.
Speaker 1: It looks like he's going to be a second round pick,
Speaker 1: and yeah, taking the opportunity to get this kind of
Speaker 1: a size speed combination mid second. Yeah, with this Megatron
Speaker 1: esque relative athletics score and all that good stuff. Cody,
Speaker 1: I mean, Christian Watson is soaring up draft boards right now,
Speaker 1: and it would not be surprising to see him go
Speaker 1: ahead of the likes of Pickens and Dots, and and all.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll crack that first six, but I
Speaker 1: think right after that group, Christian Watson comes in there,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know that there's another play
Speaker 1: that's moved themselves up higher in the pre draft process
Speaker 1: than Christian Watson. Right the freakish athlete, the best athlete
Speaker 1: we've seen through this whole process. I would say, talking
Speaker 1: to him at the Senior Bowl, he's from Tampa. That's
Speaker 1: somebody he looks at as Mike Evans. Julio Jones was
Speaker 1: our guys. He grew up watching, and I mean like
Speaker 1: when he said Julio Jones, I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're that good of an athlete. And then
Speaker 1: fast forward in a month and he tests so like
Speaker 1: Hula Jans, and I'm just like, oh my gosh. So
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about him. But again, I think the
Speaker 1: thing we hear a lot on draft Twitter is people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, put him in the first round. You know,
Speaker 1: I saw all they have to like pick twelve to
Speaker 1: the Vikings. I've seen all over the first round people
Speaker 1: talking about him getting mocked in the NFL draft. We
Speaker 1: gotta just slow a role on the mock for Christian
Speaker 1: Watson to go round one. I don't think the NFL
Speaker 1: is going to have him in round one coming from
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. We do see a similar player in
Speaker 1: Isaiah Weston from Northern Iowa, who does not have the
Speaker 1: traits that Watson has, but he's very close. He's got
Speaker 1: the same output, same athleticism, same height, same weight, etc.
Speaker 1: All that stuff. So I think we just got to
Speaker 1: slow the role on Christian Watson the NFL side, But
Speaker 1: from fantasy, I love the second round draft capital. I
Speaker 1: think anywhere he goes, he's gonna play, he's gonna start,
Speaker 1: And I just love the draft pick with Christian Watson.
Speaker 1: He was next on my list at the widershire position
Speaker 1: as well. All right, well you are up again here
Speaker 1: to pick. So Christian Watson off the board, snapped up
Speaker 1: one pick ahead of you. So who's going to be
Speaker 1: your third pick? And round two? So I got three
Speaker 1: running backs. I got Zamir Breeze, Kenneth Walker. I feel
Speaker 1: really good about those athletes. I got two receivers, one quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think I got to dip right back into the
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and for me, it's very close here these
Speaker 1: next two receivers that are on our board. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go David Bell. I'm gonna go David Bell.
Speaker 1: We got we got two early declares. Are the guys
Speaker 1: I'm deciding between. I'm gonna go David Bell. He's not
Speaker 1: the better athlete between the two, but he broke out
Speaker 1: earlier at Purdue. He played with Rondel Moore. His comps
Speaker 1: did not come back terrible. We're talking. You know, there's
Speaker 1: guys in there, Jowan Jennings, New Hopkins and Kwan Bolden.
Speaker 1: There are some Farrell Coopers, some LaQuan Tribbles in there.
Speaker 1: But I think David Bell is gonna go on day two.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get drafted by the NFL. We've seen these
Speaker 1: guys come in as lesser athletes like a Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: still produce. I think he produces well in the middle quadrants.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a slant god. He's going to
Speaker 1: be used by the NFL teams. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: produce better than the NFL than people are expecting, and
Speaker 1: I'll take him here in round two. Yeah, PPR monster
Speaker 1: is what. David Bell is going to be a guy
Speaker 1: that gets you know, a ton of targets and close
Speaker 1: to one hundred receptions that if he obviously hits his
Speaker 1: peak and doesn't burn out. So I do, like David Bell,
Speaker 1: I think in terms of fantasy, it's a fantastic pick fits.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on, David Bell? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if you're in a draft with Iowa and Michigan State alumnus,
Speaker 1: he is going to be well regarded there because he
Speaker 1: destroyed Iowa for eleven catches two hundred and forty yards
Speaker 1: in a touchdown at a time when Iowa was undefeated.
Speaker 1: I think he did that in Iowa City too, and
Speaker 1: wrecked MSU for eleven catches two hundred and seventeen yards
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. Ninety three catches in eleven games this
Speaker 1: past fall. The dude is productive. So never mind that
Speaker 1: he ran a four or six five at the combine
Speaker 1: or whatever like this dude can play. Yeah, and a
Speaker 1: lot of those numbers. Once these guys start producing that,
Speaker 1: you know, this is why I mean I like the
Speaker 1: combo more for the stuff like Cody's been talking about.
Speaker 1: You talk to the athletes. You know, you see a
Speaker 1: couple of those scores, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they run around in their underwear. Right, it's not film,
Speaker 1: I think because it's so late in the process, people
Speaker 1: put a little too much into these slight separators from
Speaker 1: the combine versus what you watched on film the whole time.
Speaker 1: Plus the old scout trope of you can't count it twice.
Speaker 1: We know a guy's fast, you can't count it fast.
Speaker 1: What you can't say he's fast when he runs a
Speaker 1: fast forty You already knew he was fast, it was
Speaker 1: in your board. Don't count it a second time. You
Speaker 1: know guy has good hands. He catches all the balls
Speaker 1: in the gauntlet. You knew he had good hands. You
Speaker 1: know the gauntlet isn't the thing. So getting to hear
Speaker 1: rumors from GMS, input from the players themselves, and what
Speaker 1: evaluators in the NFL think is the most useful stuff
Speaker 1: in the combine in my opinion. So like that David
Speaker 1: Bell picked so Cody, this is your last pick in
Speaker 1: this or no, no, your second to last pick in
Speaker 1: this draft. David Bell just went no, it's me, I'm up.
Speaker 1: You just took David Bell. I don't know why. It's
Speaker 1: because Pat you were talking. I thought you took David Bell.
Speaker 1: So my bad. This is my second to last pick here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Trey McBride out of Colorado State for
Speaker 1: this team side for this team that I already have
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams four. It's the first tight end off the board.
Speaker 1: He is the guy. Though, I like Greg Dulkitch, I
Speaker 1: think that Jeremy Rutgert is probably a little more complete
Speaker 1: and pro ready than Tray McBride is, just because he
Speaker 1: was used so much in the blocking game at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Everything that we heard from the Combine and the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and everything was Rutgert was an underused guy. But
Speaker 1: Trey McBride is going to be your past catching tight
Speaker 1: end in this class. There's other ones that can turn
Speaker 1: into it, but I think that McBride is one of
Speaker 1: the few guys that comes in you can drop him in,
Speaker 1: which is a huge thing a tight end. It's so
Speaker 1: rare that a tight end can be you know, put
Speaker 1: in the NFL, dropped in and used immediately. Obviously, this
Speaker 1: dude's gonna get more work on third and lungs than
Speaker 1: third and shorts because they'll probably have a better blocking
Speaker 1: tight end end for whatever team he is drafted to.
Speaker 1: But he can do it. So if he's asked to
Speaker 1: do it, I think he can. I would expect a
Speaker 1: year similar to Pat Freermouth, with more upside his rookie
Speaker 1: season for Trey McBride. So, um, Cody, I was that
Speaker 1: you exclaiming as I picked Trey McBride and what do
Speaker 1: you think of his? Uh? You know, what do you
Speaker 1: think of this pick? Here? Yes it was I. I
Speaker 1: was hoping to put the capstone on my team in
Speaker 1: the next pick with Tray McBride. So I really loved
Speaker 1: what she did there. I think he's some mixture of
Speaker 1: Hawkinson and Goddard but doesn't quite have the act of
Speaker 1: those guys, but he's in that same mold. We have
Speaker 1: him in the Dynasty rankings, plugged in just behind Dawson Knox,
Speaker 1: already right in there at tight end number fourteen. So
Speaker 1: I mean I like Tray McBride a lot. Obviously, eleven
Speaker 1: yards ninety were see hundred and thirty four targets last year,
Speaker 1: but just that one touchdown, which is really weird. But
Speaker 1: again everyone points to Colorado State, but in years past,
Speaker 1: what have we seen Michael Gallup labs Johnson Preston Williams
Speaker 1: this year to tight end he's gonna come in, he's
Speaker 1: gonna produce, he's gonna do the damn thing. I like
Speaker 1: Trey McBride a lot. Yeah, it fits your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Trey McBride everything you guys just said. He's the number
Speaker 1: one pass catching tight end in this class. Like I
Speaker 1: think in tight end Premium he might get pushed up
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the first round. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised to see him go there. So good pick there
Speaker 1: so one O nine. I'm gonna go with sky Moore.
Speaker 1: Still a couple of wide receivers I like here, but
Speaker 1: four four speed and he's not tiny, like, he's not
Speaker 1: big I think five ten, one ninety, like big enough,
Speaker 1: not a little smurf. And this guy's dangerous. Man. He
Speaker 1: is a fun watch on film. Like, I hope he
Speaker 1: lands in a place where there is some creativity because
Speaker 1: I think he could be a really interesting playmaker in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I really like sky Moore. Just like
Speaker 1: you said, Western Michigan. So there's some questions about, you know,
Speaker 1: the production and all that stuff. This guy is fast.
Speaker 1: He's see it on film. It translates the dude is
Speaker 1: super super fast. I really like this pick. I think
Speaker 1: obviously a lot depends on landing spot. I don't think
Speaker 1: he can come in like if he gets drafted by Chicago,
Speaker 1: he can't be the one answer like he I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a wide receiver one, but I think as
Speaker 1: a great complimentary wide receiver to somebody else, Like if
Speaker 1: you landed in Dallas, that would be amazing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? With you got Ceedee lamb At, Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz and Michael Gallop on this team. Also, now he's
Speaker 1: gonna get one on ones, He's gonna start torching people.
Speaker 1: So I really like, depending on landing spot, I really
Speaker 1: do like sky More here, So Cody your thoughts on
Speaker 1: sky More. I love everything about him. This was the
Speaker 1: other pick I had other than David Bill, and so
Speaker 1: that was gonna come back. So it's just like bang
Speaker 1: bang McBride Moore. Yeah, I'm kind of sad I didn't
Speaker 1: take him over David Bill. These guys, like I said,
Speaker 1: back to back, in all of our grading and rankings
Speaker 1: and everything at the combine, this guy's energy was just
Speaker 1: a little bit different, you know. I asked him, you
Speaker 1: know what, what's your mentality when you get the ball
Speaker 1: in your hands? I want to score and I don't
Speaker 1: want you to touch me. And that's just like its
Speaker 1: just different mindset. That's what I liked about him. And
Speaker 1: after the combine the mock draft update, he was the
Speaker 1: biggest riser. He jumped into the late half of round
Speaker 1: two in NFL mock drafts, So that's exciting for him.
Speaker 1: And then as we do comparables on player profile dot Com,
Speaker 1: we've been running the numbers and a couple of the
Speaker 1: guys that are the top end of his golden tate,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Rashad Bateman, some mixture in there. I think
Speaker 1: that's that profile is very well. For an earlier declare
Speaker 1: from Western Michigan, I love sky Moore. All right, you're
Speaker 1: up for your last pick in this draft. Cody got
Speaker 1: George Pickens on the squad. Who are you gonna pair
Speaker 1: with him? So we got two receivers, Drake London and
Speaker 1: George Pickens. And as I said before, I was looking
Speaker 1: to well, I have David Bill as well. I was
Speaker 1: looking to put Skymore or Trey McBride on there. Now
Speaker 1: it really opens up for me because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of options. Can I go running back? Do I reach
Speaker 1: on receiver? Where do I go I'm gonna put the
Speaker 1: marbles in South Carolina and I'm gonna go after Kevin Harris. Oh,
Speaker 1: the brute running back out of South Carolina who's dealt
Speaker 1: with a little bit of back injuries over the last
Speaker 1: few years. But I believe he jumped thirty eight inches
Speaker 1: in the in the vertical, he had a massive broad jump,
Speaker 1: and then later this week he's gonna be running his
Speaker 1: forty at the South Carolina Pro Day. I think he's
Speaker 1: another guy that can jump into that you know, mid
Speaker 1: four fours. If he runs on the mid four fs,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about him next to Zamir White
Speaker 1: as far as these drafts fall. And I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Kevin Harris, running back out of South Carolina. This is
Speaker 1: a devy guy. If you're in DEBV you're listening, shout
Speaker 1: out Kevin Harris. Yeah, Yeah, Kevin Harris is a good,
Speaker 1: grabbing stash guy. You know, look, we've seen way, you know,
Speaker 1: running backs with way longer odds than a guy like
Speaker 1: Kevin Harris come through and succeed. James Robinson was an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent who came in at Jacksonville and you know,
Speaker 1: ran the table there and made people really surprised that
Speaker 1: the Jags would take a guy like Travis Etn in
Speaker 1: the first round because they already had James Robinson. Obviously
Speaker 1: that worked out because Robinson toris Achilles. But you know,
Speaker 1: if this guy lands in a Houston, if he lands
Speaker 1: in an Atlanta, a pat somewhere where they don't have
Speaker 1: an established back and it's just open competition, this guy
Speaker 1: could win a starting NFL job. So your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Kevin Harris and the size is going to be attractive.
Speaker 1: There just aren't that many bigger backs in this class. Like,
Speaker 1: he's not a giant, he's not like ramondre Stevens, and
Speaker 1: he's not that heavy, but he's a bigger dude. He
Speaker 1: is well built, Like he's the prototype I think for
Speaker 1: an early down NFL thumper. So that's gonna be appealing
Speaker 1: to some team out there. For my last pick, I
Speaker 1: am got him debating here. I like two guys on
Speaker 1: this board a lot. Look I think, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: haven't taken one, I'm gonna go ahead and snap up
Speaker 1: James Cook. And look, if you're in a PPR league,
Speaker 1: James Cook is going to hold a ton of upside.
Speaker 1: He's Dalvin Cook's brother. Obviously, you know we Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: profiles isn't much better overall running back, but James Cook
Speaker 1: is in the bloodline, right. I think that landing in
Speaker 1: a good spot with an offense that passes a lot.
Speaker 1: I think Arizona would be an enormous landing spot for him.
Speaker 1: I know they just resigned James Connor, and I think
Speaker 1: Connor is, you know, a great running back, but watching
Speaker 1: him in Pittsburgh, we know that he is absolutely capped.
Speaker 1: He can't have three hundred touches. He will break down.
Speaker 1: It is what he has done in the past. We
Speaker 1: would probably see it again. It happened at the end
Speaker 1: of this season too, even though he had an outstanding year.
Speaker 1: Never trying to take any anything away from James Connor
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite players in the NFL. But
Speaker 1: I think if you compliment a guy like James Cook
Speaker 1: in there, you can get him some receptions. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be great for his overall value, especially
Speaker 1: if a guy like James Connor goes down. So I
Speaker 1: think this is a nice RB, you know, four on
Speaker 1: your overall roster with a ton of upside, and I
Speaker 1: think if he gets some time, he can absolutely earn
Speaker 1: a starting job. I think a lot like Samir White,
Speaker 1: this dude could be a better pro than he was
Speaker 1: in college. So coding your thoughts on Cook here, love
Speaker 1: James Cook. Wish you wish he was a little bit bigger.
Speaker 1: I wish he was in that two ten area like
Speaker 1: his brother. The running style, the play style is exactly
Speaker 1: like his brother. He would expect no different. It's hard
Speaker 1: not to see his brother in his mannerisms and how
Speaker 1: his legs moving, how his legs are formed. Just got
Speaker 1: the same lower body size as his brother. Four four two,
Speaker 1: incredible speed. I think he's the best receiving back in
Speaker 1: the end in this draft. I think he can run
Speaker 1: every route. I think he can be used out of
Speaker 1: the slots and I think he will be used out
Speaker 1: of the slots very often in the NFL. And like
Speaker 1: you said, he can, he can earn that starting job.
Speaker 1: But I would like to see him, see him gain
Speaker 1: a little bit more weight. Hey, look, he could go
Speaker 1: on my diet to gain weight, so we can get
Speaker 1: him there, no issues at all. There So fits your
Speaker 1: thoughts on James Cook. Yeah, he's gonna fit somewhere as
Speaker 1: a satellite back. Satellite back plus like safe pick here
Speaker 1: late in the second, you're gonna get a guy who's
Speaker 1: gonna stick on your roster for a while. All Right,
Speaker 1: last pick in this mock fits you got Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: on the squad. Who's it gonna be? Yeah, so let's
Speaker 1: close it out with I'll mentioned the runner ups here,
Speaker 1: Like can Carson Strong actually slip out of the first
Speaker 1: couple of runs? Yeah, he's gonna slip because he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be the pick here, big arm. But as our
Speaker 1: mutual friend Alex Dunlap says, Cody and I'm sure you
Speaker 1: heard this analogy, it's like a seven year old with
Speaker 1: a fire hose, like it's powerful, but he just can't
Speaker 1: control it. The accuracy just really isn't there. Sometimes Damian Pierce,
Speaker 1: a guy Alex Dunlap really likes, I know, didn't inexplicably
Speaker 1: did not get the sort of workload at Florida he
Speaker 1: really deserved. And one of those guys who I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised to see him hit as one of
Speaker 1: the better backs in this class. But I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Justin Ross here, a guy who, as a sophomore
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen was the number two receiver not by much,
Speaker 1: behind Tee Higgins and ahead of Amari Rodgers. And I
Speaker 1: think Cornell Cornell Powell was he the fourth guy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a big time producer at a terrific program at an
Speaker 1: early age. And uh like, I think Ross is kind
Speaker 1: of flying under the radar this year. The only issue
Speaker 1: with Ross is obviously the spinal fusion surgery. Now they've
Speaker 1: said that he's fine. Obviously he played last year, he
Speaker 1: looked good. The initial diagnosis was he's done with football,
Speaker 1: which you know, there's a couple of the I'm not
Speaker 1: a big like pre injury guy, and you know, guys
Speaker 1: have injuries, you know, and I understand that. You know,
Speaker 1: previous injury is the biggest calibrator or whatever to future injury.
Speaker 1: I understand that, But I don't think I could take
Speaker 1: him over Metchi. But I do think he's unbelievably underrated here,
Speaker 1: so I understandable. I mean, if not for the surgery, though,
Speaker 1: he's probably going ahead of guys like David Bell and
Speaker 1: sky More. Yes, yeah, yeah, I think if no surgery,
Speaker 1: he's right in there with probably Pickens, right like, that's
Speaker 1: right where his his uh you know, draft stock would
Speaker 1: be so completely underrated I'm glad you brought him up here. Cody,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Justin Ross and anybody else that you're
Speaker 1: surprised that didn't make this draft. I would agree. I
Speaker 1: think he's in that Pickens range if he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the issues. And that's the only thing that scares me
Speaker 1: off of him is that we don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: they go through thirty two different doctors at the NFL
Speaker 1: Combine and they see, you know, how they how how
Speaker 1: those team doctors think he's doing, and you know, thirty
Speaker 1: of them could fail him. We don't know that, right
Speaker 1: We don't know that stuff right now, especially till they after,
Speaker 1: you know, down the road. But I love the prospect
Speaker 1: of Justin Ross. I think he play styles after DeVante Parker.
Speaker 1: I think that's how he uses his body. I think
Speaker 1: he just like all these other guys that especially come
Speaker 1: from Clempson, the Mike Williams is he fits right in
Speaker 1: that that scheme, that that type of receiver. UM. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching him. I thought he was gonna go round three. Um.
Speaker 1: I asked him at the combine, you know, what would
Speaker 1: you like to play with your your buddy Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: in the NFL and he was like, hell yeah, And
Speaker 1: I was like that felt like a great spot. Just
Speaker 1: go to Jacksonville. No, they gotta pay for Jan Kirk
Speaker 1: and Say Jones instead. Oh exactly, and and Marvin Jones
Speaker 1: and Evian Ingram And it's like, now, it's probably not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But remember what was gonna be a wide
Speaker 1: receiver there last year too? I mean yeah, remember when
Speaker 1: levisca channel was a thing, and uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's it's quite yeah. But anyways, I think Justin
Speaker 1: rossis gonna be a fantastic NFL receiver. I just hope
Speaker 1: the medicals come back. And I love the value here. Um.
Speaker 1: But again, guys that I thought might have went, maybe
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. I think Brian Robinson has the body type.
Speaker 1: I've said this multiple times to Matt. I think he's
Speaker 1: the guy. He's gonna come in. He's gonna get two
Speaker 1: hundred touches, two hundred carries probably from his rookie season,
Speaker 1: his second season. I think as a guy in fantasy
Speaker 1: have to take advantage of is Brian Robinson. I know
Speaker 1: you're playing for the Helmets with Alabama. Um, and I
Speaker 1: think he's probably gonna be a Day two guy. Um,
Speaker 1: But again, I think he's gonna come in two hundred touches,
Speaker 1: two hundred carries as a rookie as a second year
Speaker 1: is very valuable in fantasy him. And then, like you
Speaker 1: said before, Damian Pierce is a nice one. I think
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is getting some good some good responses from
Speaker 1: NFL scouts and I think he's gonna end up being
Speaker 1: a Day two guy that we could consider up here
Speaker 1: a very athletic wide receiver. Yeah. I think those are
Speaker 1: probably two guys. Kelvin Austin I love, but I get
Speaker 1: in fantasy it's gonna be that tougher for a guy
Speaker 1: like him to trust because he's not on the Tyrek
Speaker 1: Hill level. So I would say Robinson probably Alec Pierce
Speaker 1: are two guys that could get bumped up into round
Speaker 1: two eventually. Yeah, Metchi, like I said, was the only
Speaker 1: guy that was a guy who's debating between Cook and
Speaker 1: Metchi at the end. And I'm also a huge Shaln
Speaker 1: Tilburt fan. I love watching Shaln Tilburt, a guy that
Speaker 1: I think he will surprise people. Different skill set, but
Speaker 1: I think he will surprise people the way that Deante Johnson.
Speaker 1: Did I think that's like, you know, his production ceiling
Speaker 1: is somewhere in that neighborhood. But that is going to
Speaker 1: wrap it up for the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football
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