Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 2: It's the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm your host,
Speaker 2: Scott Fogman. Follow me on the Twitter at Bogman Sports.
Speaker 2: I'm joined as always by Pat Fitzmorris at FITS Underscore
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Speaker 2: to not be haters. We're here to promote some of
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Speaker 2: that we think he would be a good idea if
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Speaker 1: Fits. I find it.
Speaker 2: Way easier to be a hater, you know, So it's
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Speaker 2: But I think I found some good names. Are you
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Speaker 3: I am Bogs And we get to spread positivity on
Speaker 3: this show after you know, the negativity of last week's episode,
Speaker 3: So this time we get to say good things about people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know it is. It does feel better
Speaker 2: to say nice things. But, like like I said, always
Speaker 2: easier to be a hater, of course.
Speaker 1: But let's dive in. We've got some quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I think we have the position we have the most
Speaker 2: of his wide receivers and then one tight end at
Speaker 2: the end, but a couple of quarterbacks to start us
Speaker 2: off fit. So who is the quarterback right now that
Speaker 2: you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's Trey Lance, Bogs, and I'm gonna once
Speaker 3: again try to make the case for Trey Lance. I
Speaker 3: know at this point a lot of people are just like, oh,
Speaker 3: would you shut up about Trey Lance already and are
Speaker 3: just totally out. I just grabbed him at seven oh
Speaker 3: one in a startup dynasty draft, the King's Classic Dynasty Draft,
Speaker 3: and so he's going to be my third quarterback there.
Speaker 3: Like I've got Patrick Mahomes and I've got a rookie
Speaker 3: pick that's going to become Bryce Young. So like, at
Speaker 3: this point, there's not a lot of pressure for Trey
Speaker 3: Lance to, you know, automatically be a stud for me.
Speaker 3: But that's the good thing. Man. He's gotten so cheap,
Speaker 3: and I understand it. We're now two years in his
Speaker 3: NFL career and there's just so little to go on still.
Speaker 3: I mean, the you know, the price is way down,
Speaker 3: and there's a reason for it. He's made four NFL
Speaker 3: starts in twenty twenty one. That we're going to bring
Speaker 3: him along slowly. He broke his finger on his throwing
Speaker 3: hand index finger in the preseason and that kind of
Speaker 3: messed up with his mechanics a little. And then of
Speaker 3: course last year that broke an ankle after two starts.
Speaker 3: So now we have him coming into this year where
Speaker 3: he's got this ambiguous role. We don't know if it's
Speaker 3: going to be Brock Purty or Sam Darnold or Trey Lance.
Speaker 3: And despite the fact that the forty nine ers spent
Speaker 3: so much to get Trey Lance, giving up multiple first
Speaker 3: round picks to move into the number three spot and
Speaker 3: take him, it seems like they're almost putting their thumb
Speaker 3: on the scale for Purdy. But man, Bogs, I'm just
Speaker 3: not a pretty believer. And like, if you look at
Speaker 3: his skin Edgile last year, like he made what I
Speaker 3: think six starts, hold on, I've got the notes here.
Speaker 3: It was, yeah, so pretty at five regular seasons starts
Speaker 3: plus a game where he came in really early after
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt, plus a couple of playoffs starts.
Speaker 3: In the first seven starts, he didn't face a defense
Speaker 3: that ranked better than thirteenth in Dvoa against the pass
Speaker 3: so it was a lot of pretty soft matchups. Then
Speaker 3: he goes in against the Cowboys in his second playoff spot,
Speaker 3: second playoff start, no touchdown, passes two hundred and fourteen yards,
Speaker 3: just kind of look pedestrian, and I think he's just
Speaker 3: a guy bog. So I think it's gonna be Lance,
Speaker 3: who in his four starts, or I should say three
Speaker 3: starts because he got hurt early in the one where
Speaker 3: he broke his ankle, has averaged fifty eight rushing yards.
Speaker 3: We know he's going to move the needle with his
Speaker 3: running and with his passing. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: saw the video from OTA's Bogs, but like, his mechanics
Speaker 3: look a lot better now, like they have cleaned him up.
Speaker 3: He's been working with Patrick Mahomes quarterback coach. So like,
Speaker 3: I'm optimistic, do we finally get something out of Trey
Speaker 3: Lance in year three?
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, And honestly I had this.
Speaker 2: I had Trey Lance as my quarterback to start and
Speaker 2: I switched off of it. But yeah, I mean right
Speaker 2: now in Dynasty ECR, he is QB twenty one, so
Speaker 2: he is you know, we're talking about the bottom end
Speaker 2: of QB two's and Superflex, right, And I think with
Speaker 2: a guy with this much potential that can run the
Speaker 2: way he can, I think you at least have to
Speaker 2: give it a shot. I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if rock Perty is going to be you know,
Speaker 2: they say he's going to be starting to throw next week.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know how much of that is true.
Speaker 2: We've heard all kinds of he'll be ready for week one.
Speaker 2: There's no way he'll be ready for week one. Like
Speaker 2: it's been all over the place. I think that there's
Speaker 2: probably a little bit of a fire to the smoke
Speaker 2: where you know, Kyle Shanahan, it does not like Trey
Speaker 2: Lance whatever it is. You know, you wanted Mac Jones
Speaker 2: and now that Brock party was good at the end
Speaker 2: of the year. He wants Brock to win this job.
Speaker 2: But I think for the potential for this team, this
Speaker 2: team is you know, a quarterback away they have been
Speaker 2: for a little bit here, and I think Trey Lance
Speaker 2: could be the guy. So I think this is probably
Speaker 2: his His value is going to go one way or
Speaker 2: the other pretty big this year, right, Like it's either
Speaker 2: gonna skyrocket, He's gonna be worth way more than he
Speaker 2: is right now, or it's gonna sink like a stone
Speaker 2: because Brock Party took the job. So I think if
Speaker 2: you can buy him now, this is kind of like
Speaker 2: the last chance to get a cheap ticket to this ride.
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Speaker 2: I guess coming up from where you were. My guy
Speaker 2: is the sixteenth quarterback in Dynasty ECR so far in
Speaker 2: this offseason.
Speaker 1: I have him at number eleven. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes.
Speaker 2: And I know that Daniel Jones does not inspire a
Speaker 2: lot of love. Right We've seen him trip over his
Speaker 2: own feet. He's had a lot of turnover worthy plays
Speaker 2: in his career. But I think there's a couple of
Speaker 2: things here. Number One, we have not seen the best
Speaker 2: of Daniel Jones yet, right, Like, they haven't put a full,
Speaker 2: great supporting cast around him. It's been Saquon and a
Speaker 2: bunch of kind of jags at wide receiver. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously these guys are great, but they're not in terms
Speaker 2: of NFL standards, their subpar right, it's Isaiah Hodgens, It's
Speaker 2: the ghost of Sterling Shepherd, you know, it's Richie James,
Speaker 2: it's Darius Slayton, guys like that. Well, they added in
Speaker 2: two weapons this offseason. They got Darren Waller, who of
Speaker 2: course there's questions about his health and everything, and went
Speaker 2: and drafted Jalen Hyatt, who I'm a big fan of,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about a little bit later in this show.
Speaker 1: But FITZI, I don't know if you realize this, like
Speaker 1: seven hundred.
Speaker 2: Yard rushing seasons for QBS kind of a benchmark, and
Speaker 2: there were five last season. Right last year we saw
Speaker 2: it was of course justin fields with over one thousand yards.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson had seven hundred, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones just crossed seven hundred, seven hundred and three.
Speaker 2: But in the eleven seasons previous to twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: there had been ten total, I believe it was, yeah,
Speaker 2: ten seven one hundred yard rushing seasons in the NFL.
Speaker 2: It was Lamar has done it four times, Josh Allen
Speaker 2: has done it twice, Jalen has done it twice. Cam
Speaker 2: Newton did it twice, Kyler infields both once a piece.
Speaker 2: So that's seven hundred yard rushing marker for a QB
Speaker 2: is pretty big, and we know that he can do
Speaker 2: it specifically working in RPOs with Saquon, so he's got
Speaker 2: tons of rushing upside. We definitely have not seen him
Speaker 2: with the full array of wide receivers, probably still won't
Speaker 2: this year, but they should get better. And he was
Speaker 2: number one in PFF's adjusted completion percentage last season as well.
Speaker 2: And you know we've seen videos of you know, the
Speaker 2: guys can't even get his attention on the plane because
Speaker 2: he's already doing prep work for the next game on
Speaker 2: the plane, right, So, like, this is a hard working
Speaker 2: dude that keeps getting better. You're adding some weapons around
Speaker 2: him and one of the best rushing qbs in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Completely underrated from that perspective, I think he's a QB one.
Speaker 2: That's why I have him at eleven, and I'll take
Speaker 2: a guy with rushing upside as a mid QB two
Speaker 2: right now, I think you're probably going to get a
Speaker 2: pretty good deal on him.
Speaker 3: Is that mixed in with the rookies bogs QB eleven
Speaker 3: like his Do you have Stroud and where do you
Speaker 3: have him ahead of Bryce Young and CJS Droud?
Speaker 1: I do, but I have him below Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, yeah, so rich I've got him below all
Speaker 3: those guys. I think I've got him at QB sixteen.
Speaker 3: But I'm generally pretty pretty much in agreement with your
Speaker 3: assessment of him. Like he does move the needle with
Speaker 3: his running ability. I love what Brian Dable did for him,
Speaker 3: I mean, and that was really the big issue for him,
Speaker 3: that he was so turnover prone early in his career.
Speaker 3: And last year I believe he led the NFL in
Speaker 3: interception percentage, Like he had the lowest in he was, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Five fifteen touchdowns, five picks.
Speaker 3: Yep, didn't have an egregious number of fumbles last year.
Speaker 3: He just got so much better at taking care of
Speaker 3: the ball, and he still didn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: firepower with his pass catchers. I mean, adding Waller is
Speaker 3: going to help, assuming Waller can stay healthy. And although
Speaker 3: they might not have like any sort of star caliber
Speaker 3: wide receiver, they at least have quantity. Man, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just ridiculous. They can't even keep these guys They've
Speaker 3: got so many, you know, with Hodgens and Slayton and
Speaker 3: Hyatt and Wandale, rob Lyin and Shepherd, Harris Campbell signed
Speaker 3: Harris Campbell. Yeah, so at least they're going to be
Speaker 3: able to withstand injuries and still be able to put
Speaker 3: credible NFL wide receivers on the field this year, which
Speaker 3: was kind of an issue for them last year. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: like I'm optimistic. I like the Dable Jones pairing. It's
Speaker 3: worked really well so far. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: has greatness in him, but I think he can be
Speaker 3: a really solid NFL quarterback who adds and is like
Speaker 3: probably a better fantasy quarterback than real life quarterback because
Speaker 3: of the running ability.
Speaker 1: Right yeah.
Speaker 2: The running ability that I mean, that's really the selling
Speaker 2: point to me is you know, I think the running
Speaker 2: ability is there.
Speaker 1: We see it.
Speaker 2: Not many guys with seven hundred yard seasons, right I
Speaker 2: think Russell only did it once in his career. I
Speaker 2: mean he was eight fifty, but but I mean Russell
Speaker 2: did it. I think maybe only one or twice. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean just you know, a lot to go on
Speaker 2: here for Danny Dimes, and like you said, may not
Speaker 2: have the most upside of any QB, but the floor
Speaker 2: is pretty high for him, especially if those wide receivers
Speaker 2: get better. So let's go to running backs here, and
Speaker 2: I love this first one that you have fits at
Speaker 2: coming in that ECR number twenty two in Dynasty.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you love it, bugs, because I don't
Speaker 3: think everyone does. And this is another kind of polarizing guy.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it here. It's cam Acres and it's funny.
Speaker 3: I just saw Evan Silva have established the run the
Speaker 3: other day. We've got to hang out a little bit,
Speaker 3: and somehow cam Acres came up in conversation. I think
Speaker 3: I asked Evan about him, and he made like a
Speaker 3: crinkly face like he's not that into him. And I
Speaker 3: was really impressed by Acres down the stretch last year.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was the NFL rushing leader over the
Speaker 3: last six weeks of the twenty twenty two regulars season
Speaker 3: and ranked RB four in UH. I guess that was
Speaker 3: half point PPR scoring, but you know in PPR I
Speaker 3: think he was top five too. He had more than
Speaker 3: one hundred rushing yards in each of his last three games,
Speaker 3: and Acres just does not have that much competition in
Speaker 3: the Rams backfield. I know some people like Zach Evans
Speaker 3: and think that he is some sort of existential threat
Speaker 3: to acres role, But I mean, Evans was a late
Speaker 3: sixth round pick, and we know what the hit rate
Speaker 3: is on late sixth rown running backs in the NFL draft.
Speaker 3: It's not very good. And plus we're talking about a
Speaker 3: guy who lost his job to a freshman at All
Speaker 3: Miss last year. So I mean, I like Evans.
Speaker 1: Judkins is pretty good.
Speaker 3: Jud Quinn Shawn Judgins is very good. But I do
Speaker 3: think Evans, you know, is better than the typical sixth
Speaker 3: round running back. But I really don't think he's going
Speaker 3: to pose a threat to acres job security. And if
Speaker 3: Rams coach Sean McVay leans on Acres the way he
Speaker 3: leaned on Todd Gurley just a few years ago, Acres
Speaker 3: is going to have a big year. And actually he's
Speaker 3: kind of set up for a big year because the
Speaker 3: Rams schedule is littered with teams that were mediocre against
Speaker 3: the run last season. I mean, like, I'm not a
Speaker 3: big schedule analysis guy as far as looking ahead, like, oh,
Speaker 3: you got to get this guy. He's got a soft schedule.
Speaker 3: The things are set up pretty nicely for him, including
Speaker 3: having Seattle and Arizona and his division, which were two
Speaker 3: of the worst run defenses in the league by far
Speaker 3: last year. So I mean right up there or right
Speaker 3: down there with the Texans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of schedule and things like that, you know,
Speaker 2: I just wrote up team defenses for the Black Book
Speaker 2: and IDPs for the Black Book as well. So I've
Speaker 2: been big on the defensive side of the ball. And
Speaker 2: if you're the Rams, you are going to need to
Speaker 2: bleed the clock and run the ball a bunch because
Speaker 2: that de is awful. It's Aaron Donald, Ernest Jones, and
Speaker 2: a bunch of scrubs. They traded Ramsey, they didn't re
Speaker 2: sign anybody. They had no money. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: the cut Bobby Wagner. It's Ernest Jones and Christian Roseboom,
Speaker 2: who has like ten snaps in the NFL are there
Speaker 2: starting linebackers. So you need to bleed that clock. You
Speaker 2: need to lean on the run. So it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: crazy to see Cam Akers and Zach Evans have some
Speaker 2: success against a soft run schedule. But like you said,
Speaker 2: I'm not a big schedule guy either, because you know,
Speaker 2: the Dolphins lose Christian Wilkins for.
Speaker 1: The year, and they're completely different defense, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: So like getting too ahead of it, you know, is
Speaker 2: a little silly in my opinion, but I think they
Speaker 2: need they need to lean on Camming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me just slip in one last point,
Speaker 3: just like when he came back so Akers Tours Achilles
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty one preseason and then like made
Speaker 3: that miraculous comeback where he was back for like the
Speaker 3: final regular season game and they pretty much gave him
Speaker 3: the backfield for the playoffs, which I thought was really exciting. Yes,
Speaker 3: he did not look like quite the same guy in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, but I thought I was really encouraging that
Speaker 3: he came back. I thought he'd built be full go
Speaker 3: last year, and I don't know if that was part
Speaker 3: of the problem, that weird kind of team estrangement for
Speaker 3: a while where he and McVeigh weren't quite seeing eye
Speaker 3: to eye.
Speaker 2: That's his biggest threat, fits is right there, is his attitude.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest threat to his job. It's
Speaker 1: not Zach Evans, it's him.
Speaker 3: But clearly they had some sort of reconciliation because he
Speaker 3: was back at the end of the year and was
Speaker 3: clearly the guy for McVeigh and performed well. So I'm
Speaker 3: hoping that with the Achilles injury, it'll be two full
Speaker 3: years behind him by the time he takes the field
Speaker 3: for Week one. So I'm hoping that he's back physically
Speaker 3: to being the guy he was when he came into
Speaker 3: the league, or really close to it. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know if you can ever get back to one
Speaker 3: hundred percent of what you were after an Achilles' tear,
Speaker 3: but I think he can come pretty close. I Mean,
Speaker 3: we've seen guys like Deonta Foreman, you know, be pretty
Speaker 3: impactful after having that injury, and I think Acres can too.
Speaker 2: And sometimes, like with Foreman, it was like he came
Speaker 2: back and he was not the same guy. It was
Speaker 2: pretty clear, and then he kind of got forgot about
Speaker 2: for a couple of seasons, and then now it seems like,
Speaker 2: fully removed from this Achilles surgery, he's a much better
Speaker 2: player now, right so, and I think that could happen
Speaker 2: with Acres too, and maybe it doesn't take him as
Speaker 2: long because he's already This is a guy that we've
Speaker 2: been waiting on to have in a big explosive season
Speaker 2: since he was in college. Like he went to Florida
Speaker 2: State as the number one running back recruit in the nation,
Speaker 2: played behind one of the worst offensive lines in college
Speaker 2: football that I've ever seen, and still put up some
Speaker 2: big years and then got drafted in the NFL. We
Speaker 2: all thought, well, this guy's can be better pro than
Speaker 2: you know, a college player because of the circumstance of
Speaker 2: Florida State with the bad offense back QB, bad coach,
Speaker 2: bad offensive line. And he showed it his rookie season
Speaker 2: and then injuries and you know, self inflicted wounds this
Speaker 2: past year.
Speaker 1: But I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think he's a little he's a little tarnished right
Speaker 2: now because of the injury and the attitude stuff. And
Speaker 2: you can get him for cheaper than he should be.
Speaker 2: So I like that one fits. I'm gonna stick a
Speaker 2: running back. I'll go with Derrick Henry. And look, Derrick
Speaker 2: Henry right now is Dynasty ECR running back number eighteen.
Speaker 2: And I know this is a short window thing for me,
Speaker 2: fits that most people don't particularly like. And Dereck Henry
Speaker 2: has had an injured season before, but this dude is
Speaker 2: a freaking nature. He's still under thirty years old, And
Speaker 2: what do you do on offense when you have three
Speaker 2: not ready options at QB and a defense that is
Speaker 2: you know, Rebuilding will say to be nice here, Fits
Speaker 2: and not be insulting, so you run the ball. Derrick
Speaker 2: Henry is the offense in Tennessee. We all know that
Speaker 2: I am not threatened by tay J. Spears at all
Speaker 2: eating into Derrick Henry's work. It's still gonna be Derrick
Speaker 2: Henry by a mile over everyone else in that offense.
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe it's only two really good seasons left,
Speaker 2: but this dude's a freak. Maybe it's four, maybe it's
Speaker 2: four and a half, and bad old Derrick Henry is
Speaker 2: still probably better than a lot of those low end
Speaker 2: RB twos, which is what he seems to be slipping behind.
Speaker 2: So I think you might still be able to get
Speaker 2: a prime season or two, maybe three out of Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2: And because he's had a lot of carries, because he's
Speaker 2: had an injury in the previous season, I think that
Speaker 2: the shine is coming off of him a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I still think he's a league winner for at
Speaker 2: least next two seasons. Fits, And I think he's being
Speaker 2: underrated right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's all circumstantial bogs, Like what is
Speaker 3: the position of your dynasty team? Are you in championship
Speaker 3: chasing mode? If you are, then Derrick Henry should absolutely enter.
Speaker 3: And if he is on the roster of a team
Speaker 3: that's not ready to contend this year, you should absolutely
Speaker 3: go out and get him. And I mean, like I'm
Speaker 3: I'm cautiously optimistic about his outlook for this year. I Mean,
Speaker 3: one of the things that kind of terrifies me is
Speaker 3: the way the Titans offensive line just went to hell
Speaker 3: last year. I mean, it got really bad, so that
Speaker 3: that's kind of one issue. And just I agree that
Speaker 3: if you have a bad defense, you want to run
Speaker 3: the ball and keep your bad defense off the field.
Speaker 3: But then too often, you know, you fall behind and
Speaker 3: that takes you out of run modes. So I don't
Speaker 3: know if Derrick Henry is maybe going to have quite
Speaker 3: the same volume of carries even if he stays healthy,
Speaker 3: Like he might just not be able to run as
Speaker 3: much because they're in catchup mode a little bit. But
Speaker 3: I do think that is the plan to give Derrick Henry,
Speaker 3: you know, pretty much all he can eat as far
Speaker 3: as carries. Like same as it ever was in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: So yes, I mean like he is appealing from that perspective,
Speaker 3: and in dynasty, obviously the price is not what it
Speaker 3: is in redraft. So if you're a contending team, I agree,
Speaker 3: he's definitely someone you should be looking at, possibly trying
Speaker 3: to acquire.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's one spot ahead of Rashad White, which
Speaker 2: is surprising to me. He's behind JK. Dobbins and Damian Pierce.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, you can make a case for
Speaker 2: Javonte even coming off the injury because Javonte's so much younger.
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is better, So I would probably stick with
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb there. But like Ramandrie Stevens said, I mean,
Speaker 2: we talked a lot about the Patriots potentially drafting Beesean
Speaker 2: and they'd love to rotate RBS. So I was just
Speaker 2: a little surprised by a couple of the names at
Speaker 2: least that were ahead of Derrick Henry. So I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you can trade him for a late
Speaker 2: first round pick next year, that's something that I would
Speaker 2: definitely do because I think he's got at least two
Speaker 2: more seasons.
Speaker 3: I'm nothing not at twenty twenty four first bogs, not
Speaker 3: not for a lottery ticket in next year's class. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just you.
Speaker 1: Know, we got we got iconic, that's fair.
Speaker 3: We got some iconic dudes coming into the league, possibly
Speaker 3: with Marvin Harris and Caleb Williams, brock Bauers. You know, like,
Speaker 3: I just can't give up an You guys.
Speaker 2: Are all going to go top of those seven fits
Speaker 2: they are. I mean, those guys aren't getting past seven.
Speaker 2: So if you can get nine to ten level, if
Speaker 2: you can get him for nine, ten, eleven, twelve, that's
Speaker 2: where I'm that's where the sweet spot is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the thing I mean, like, if you're getting him,
Speaker 3: the guys who are going to be picking at the
Speaker 3: end of the first round next year, those guys are contending.
Speaker 3: Those are the guys who aren't giving up Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: What's one in the hand worth fits.
Speaker 3: Two in the bush, right, true?
Speaker 1: One in the hand that this is a top ten
Speaker 1: RB in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Still in my opinion, so uh, you know, I still
Speaker 2: think he's got not a top ten offense. Obviously a
Speaker 2: lot of change, but if you know Ryan Hannah, Ryan
Speaker 2: Tannehill takes a little click, you know, for then now
Speaker 2: this team is back to being pretty solid. Maybe getting
Speaker 2: Harold Landry helps pace that defense a little bit. And
Speaker 2: three new offensive linemen. They got Dillard, they went out
Speaker 2: and drafted Peter Skronsky, and they added Dane brun Skill.
Speaker 1: So I think, I mean Dillard. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Titans can be as bad as they.
Speaker 3: Were last Dillard's more a pass blocker than a run blocker.
Speaker 3: But I agree it's gonna help. Like they did upgrade
Speaker 3: the offensive line and bugs. Just to clear I guess
Speaker 3: if you are a contending team and you're giving up
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty four first for Henry, like you've got
Speaker 3: to be pretty sold. Like that is all well and
Speaker 3: good if you do, in fact finish one of the
Speaker 3: you know, with one of the three best records or whatever,
Speaker 3: and that pick you're giving away once up being one ten,
Speaker 3: one eleven or one twelve. But man, if you miscalculate
Speaker 3: and fall in your face and the guy that you
Speaker 3: give up for Derrick Henry that pick turns out to
Speaker 3: be Marvin Harrison Junior, you are gonna have some egg
Speaker 3: on your face. Man.
Speaker 2: I understand, Yeah, I understand, but I'm still I'm still
Speaker 2: rocking with Derrick Henry. That's the point here. So let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go down a little bit to your running back here.
Speaker 2: And I love this one. This is another guy that
Speaker 2: was in consideration from my list.
Speaker 3: Fits yeah, And this can be kind of a quick one,
Speaker 3: bogs because there's not much to go on. But in
Speaker 3: the sleeper category, I like Jerome Ford of the Browns,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, the Browns are not expected to
Speaker 3: re sign Kareem Hunts. Reportedly the team thinks he may
Speaker 3: have lost a step. I can't remember where I read that,
Speaker 3: but someone had mentioned that. And Deernest Johnson has gone.
Speaker 3: So Jerome Ford is the clear backup to Nick Chubb
Speaker 3: and as of now, I mean, there is no one
Speaker 3: who's going to challenge him. It is like Dimitric Felton,
Speaker 3: John Kelly and some other real jobbers in that backfield
Speaker 3: right now. So and look, Jerome Ford is a guy
Speaker 3: who ran for thirteen hundred yards and scored twenty touchdowns
Speaker 3: in his final season at Cincinnati. Went to Alabama initially
Speaker 3: as like a four star recruit, but just ran into
Speaker 3: that logjam with what Josh Jacob, Damien Harris, Naji Harris. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like he was. He was totally logjam there, so you know,
Speaker 3: he wisely transferred, wound up at Cincinnati and had a
Speaker 3: really nice final season five to eleven, two ten four
Speaker 3: four six speed. I think that gives him like an
Speaker 3: eighty seventh percentile speed score according to playerprofiler dot com.
Speaker 3: And the dude has some power, like he's gonna run
Speaker 3: through arm tackle. So this is a potential potentially useful
Speaker 3: assets who can be acquired very inexpensively right now.
Speaker 1: I mean he is free fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's not minswords here, Dynasty ECR of sixty
Speaker 2: eight right now. I mean that is behind James Robinson,
Speaker 2: Gus Ebwards, Forgeryld Patterson, Cuba Hubbard, Raheem Moster, Kareem Hunt
Speaker 2: who's not even on a team, Leonard Fournette, Zeke who's
Speaker 2: not even on a team, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire Deontay Foreman
Speaker 2: Abanacanada is going ahead.
Speaker 3: Do people realize the Falcons drafted Jean Robinson and the
Speaker 3: Cordero Patterson is like forty seven and.
Speaker 2: Tyler Lgiers ahead of it, So like, yeah, he's buried,
Speaker 2: so and Jerome Ford has opportunity. You know, Nick Chubb
Speaker 2: hurts his knee, your foot, or misses a game, Jerome
Speaker 2: Ford is your guy now, So yes, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think this is a great one. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: considered putting him on there, but I'm glad that you
Speaker 2: had him on the list here, just to bring a
Speaker 2: little light to his name, because I think that's a
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Speaker 2: All right, another running back for you here fits and
Speaker 2: a couple of these guys here. I feel like I've
Speaker 2: become an apologist for over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I think the next couple.
Speaker 2: Guys that I'm going to talk about maybe two or
Speaker 2: three guys here, but let's go with Antonio Gibson. I
Speaker 2: got him at thirty three at running back right now,
Speaker 2: his dynasty ECR is thirty eight. He's coming off a
Speaker 2: tough year. I understand him being a little bit tarnish.
Speaker 2: I just think he's the better pass catcher and he's
Speaker 2: was the number one pass blocking running back in grade
Speaker 2: from PFF seventy five point one. Brian Robinson was forty
Speaker 2: six point nine. And I think that grade specifically with
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson being so low last season, that Antonio Gibson's
Speaker 2: going to get on the field more with a first
Speaker 2: year starter in Sam Howell, so you know, protect him
Speaker 2: a little bit more. He can become a nice dump
Speaker 2: off option as well. Brian Robinson could too. But I
Speaker 2: think this is a guy that you want to throw
Speaker 2: him the ball short, get the ball in his hands
Speaker 2: and let him make a play. Is a guy that
Speaker 2: returned kicks and punts, you know, and played wide receiver
Speaker 2: at Memphis. So I think that in this offense with
Speaker 2: Sam Howe, you know, you want to give him a
Speaker 2: couple easy throws. So I think that Gibson should be
Speaker 2: the feature back here ahead of Brian Robinson. Again, I
Speaker 2: know you know our boy D Brown. A couple others
Speaker 2: here talk about Brian Robinson being a jag. I think
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson is better than a jag, right, but he
Speaker 2: is what he is. He's a first second down thumper, right,
Speaker 2: He's a short yardage guy. He can catch the ball
Speaker 2: out of the backfield. But Gibson is so much better
Speaker 2: and a better pass blocker. So I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the worst case scenario with Gibson is he becomes like
Speaker 2: a JD. Mckissic type of dump off guy. And if
Speaker 2: you're in a PPR league, that's still very valuable. So
Speaker 2: I think as a low end RB three, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take a gamble on Gibson. I just think he should
Speaker 2: be given a little bit more respect than once the
Speaker 2: community is on him, has him on right.
Speaker 3: Now, you're speaking my language, Bogs. I'm a big Antonio Gibson, Stan,
Speaker 3: I've got him in a bunch of dynasty leagues. And
Speaker 3: you kind of said it like the way this sets
Speaker 3: up now with no McKissick there, And unfortunately, I think
Speaker 3: McKissick might have to retire due to injuries. Kind of
Speaker 3: forced out of action here. But that does that Gibson
Speaker 3: up to be the primary passing down guy, and I
Speaker 3: think he's going to, you know, cut into Robinson's early
Speaker 3: down work too. I mean, we're talking about a guy
Speaker 3: who and I've made this point I think on the
Speaker 3: show before Bogs he is as big. Gibson is as
Speaker 3: big and as fast as Jonathan Taylor and is a
Speaker 3: converted college wide receiver like that is what you should
Speaker 3: be aiming for and had double digit touchdowns his first
Speaker 3: two years in the league. And now, like Ron Rivera's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know what, we didn't really use Antonio Gibson enough
Speaker 3: last year. Well, no kidding, man, but I kind of
Speaker 3: at the same time, I mean I kind of get it,
Speaker 3: Like Antonio Gibson fumbled like half a dozen times in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, So I understand why they were, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe a little hesitant to give him like a huge
Speaker 3: role and why they drafted Robinson and used him quite
Speaker 3: a bit. But at the very least he should be
Speaker 3: getting a half share in that backfield. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's going to be a high powered offense
Speaker 3: with Sam Donald under center or Sam Donald excuse.
Speaker 1: Me, Sam Howell, it may not be a lot of
Speaker 1: difference there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And you'd like to think that maybe Sam
Speaker 3: Howell is dumping off a lot in his first year
Speaker 3: as a starter, although we know he's kind of mobile,
Speaker 3: and mobile quarterbacks sometimes like to tuck it away and
Speaker 3: run rather than dump off. But I am optimistic that
Speaker 3: Gibson can get you know, forty plus receptions in this offense.
Speaker 3: And yeah, man, I'm enthusiastic about him too. I think
Speaker 3: he's a good trade target.
Speaker 2: If Hal gets smashed a couple times, he'll start dumping
Speaker 2: off way more so. Very true, great runner at North Carolina,
Speaker 2: but there's a difference between North Carolina and the NFL.
Speaker 2: So get popped a couple of times one where it struggle,
Speaker 2: where you struggle to get up, you're gonna start dumping
Speaker 2: that ball off a little more. So I'm with you there.
Speaker 2: Let's stick on the same team, but move to wide
Speaker 2: receiver here. Whatever the name of this team is going
Speaker 2: to be in the upcoming year, because I'm sure you
Speaker 2: saw the trademark stuff to not go through on Commanders,
Speaker 2: so they may have to be changing again with the
Speaker 2: new ownership. But another Washington player here, and I love
Speaker 2: this one too.
Speaker 1: Fits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get it back to the football team. I
Speaker 3: like the football team man, and yeah, just good feelings
Speaker 3: about the commanders Washington, whatever we want to call him
Speaker 3: now that Daniel Snyder is selling the team. So yes,
Speaker 3: let's let's move boldly into a new era with Antonio
Speaker 3: Gibson and Johan Dotson. Bogs an early pick in the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one draft or twenty twenty two draft. I
Speaker 3: believe he was sixteenth overall, and yet there were people
Speaker 3: taking Sky Moore ahead of him in dynasty rookie drafts
Speaker 3: last year. What a mistake that was. I mean, granted,
Speaker 3: we did not get a full rookie season out of Dots,
Speaker 3: and he played twelve games, but he had seven touchdowns
Speaker 3: in those twelve games and five top twenty PPR weeks
Speaker 3: at wide receivers. So this dude is fast, he's a
Speaker 3: good route runner. He's really competitive on balls in the
Speaker 3: air for a smaller receiver. Bogs and yeah, I mean like,
Speaker 3: this guy's just a really good player and tough after
Speaker 3: the catch. So Terry mclaurin's there too, And we've got
Speaker 3: the Sam Howell question. We don't know how he's gonna
Speaker 3: fare in his first year as a starter. But it's
Speaker 3: a pretty narrow target tree, not a lot of tight
Speaker 3: ends worth, you know, throwing two in Washington.
Speaker 1: You done with Logan Thomas?
Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, he's an older guy. He gets hurt a lot,
Speaker 3: me too. So it's basically I mean, Curtis Samuel is there,
Speaker 3: but I don't know, I've always thought he was a
Speaker 3: little overrated. Maybe, So it's mainly McLaurin and Dotson and bugs.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I think Dotson is only gonna send
Speaker 3: Like I don't think he has a wide receiver one
Speaker 3: year in him this year with a new quarterback being
Speaker 3: broken in, But I think he could get there eventually,
Speaker 3: Like I think he could eventually be considered a top ten,
Speaker 3: top fifteen receiver and in our ECR rankings, like I mean,
Speaker 3: he's wide receiver twenty eight. He's behind guys like Jerry Judy, Treylon, Burks,
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, Brandon Ayuk. I'm not sure I wouldn't rather
Speaker 3: have Dotson than any of those guys, even McLaurin. And
Speaker 3: I like McLaurin too, but you know, Dotson is younger
Speaker 3: by like what four years, so yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think Dotson is kind of an undervalued asset right now.
Speaker 2: I'll push back on McLaurin because I just think McLaurin
Speaker 2: is incredible talent. But I think Dotson is way more
Speaker 2: talented than people gave him credit for coming into the draft.
Speaker 2: And like you said, going up and getting contested catches,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big thing when you have a
Speaker 2: first year starter and Sam Howell, and we're kind of
Speaker 2: assuming Sam Howell's start here. They have Jacoby Brissett on
Speaker 2: that team too, so it could easily be I mean,
Speaker 2: Jacobe loves to go in and take people's jobs, right,
Speaker 2: It's just what he does, so it could easily be
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett too. And then you have a better passer,
Speaker 2: most likely with the ball in Bassett. So I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, I think that the answer a quarterback is
Speaker 2: probably not going to be found this year. But let's
Speaker 2: have this team be bad and give them Caleb Williams
Speaker 2: or Drake May next year. And now you have a
Speaker 2: legit QB in there that is going to spread the
Speaker 2: ball around. And I'm really excited for Dotson's future and
Speaker 2: I think he can become you know, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's as good as Terry McLaurin, but I think that
Speaker 2: he could easily be the t Higgins to Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: in this offense. Obviously they don't have a Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: right now, but that's why you would buy him now.
Speaker 1: That's why you'd buy him right now.
Speaker 2: At currently his price is wide receiver twenty eight on
Speaker 2: Dynasty ECR, So I think he's a great buy. And
Speaker 2: just you know, still, none of these guys come in
Speaker 2: the NFL is complete, and I think if they don't shine,
Speaker 2: and he did shine seven touchdowns, like you said, and
Speaker 2: how many would he miss three games?
Speaker 1: Seven touchdowns at thirteen games?
Speaker 3: Twelve games?
Speaker 2: Twelve games, so you know that that's an outstanding number.
Speaker 2: Touchdowns are finicky, but he proved himself to get open
Speaker 2: there so and that was with some bad QB play
Speaker 2: last year as well. So not that it's going to
Speaker 2: get much better this year, but he should be better
Speaker 2: in his second year in the NFL. And I'm also
Speaker 2: excited about him. FITS love that pick. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with Jamison Williams right now. He's going off as wide
Speaker 2: receiver number thirty. I have him at number seventeen. Once
Speaker 2: again a guy that I understand the tarnish. His tape
Speaker 2: was bad last year, right he was coming off the
Speaker 2: ACL injury. He just didn't look right, and then he
Speaker 2: gets this gambling suspension that makes you kind of question, like,
Speaker 2: what is this guy doing. Saint Brown is going to
Speaker 2: be the one hundred catch guy, right but Williams is
Speaker 2: going to be the deep threat option. In his only
Speaker 2: season starting for Alabama, twelve hundred and twenty three of
Speaker 2: his fifteen hundred and seventy two yards came on intermediate
Speaker 2: or deep targets. He was fourth in intermediate yards in
Speaker 2: the nation, he was fifth in deep yards in the nation,
Speaker 2: and he scored fifteen touchdowns, which was second. The shine
Speaker 2: is off of him, and I understand that, but I
Speaker 2: still think this guy has the potential to be a
Speaker 2: wide receiver number one in the NFL, and we're just
Speaker 2: not taking him that seriously right now. So I understand that,
Speaker 2: but I think the time to buy is right now
Speaker 2: because once he gets past the suspension and he gets
Speaker 2: on the field fully healthy with a monter, Saint Brown
Speaker 2: and Sam Laporta and Jamier Gibbs, you know, and David
Speaker 2: Montgomery all these options that they have in Detroit, he
Speaker 2: is going to be potentially one of the best ones.
Speaker 2: And he's not a guy that you're going to have
Speaker 2: to have catch ten balls in a game to put
Speaker 2: up points for you. He's going to be a boomer
Speaker 2: bus guy, but he's going to be a guy that
Speaker 2: if he catches four, he's probably going to break one
Speaker 2: off for a huge gain and maybe get in the
Speaker 2: end zone.
Speaker 1: Fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Like I said, playing in the SEC for Alabama, that's,
Speaker 2: you know, a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 1: So I really really still.
Speaker 2: Like Jameson Williams, and I think that, you know, the
Speaker 2: shines off him a little bit and the opportunity to
Speaker 2: buy is right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't do a lot last year, but I
Speaker 3: think he had at least one long catch and I
Speaker 3: think he had another one that was called back by
Speaker 3: a penalty. So, like we saw, we get a little
Speaker 3: taste of the big play potential. But yeah, the Lions
Speaker 3: slow played it with him, and wisely, you know, they
Speaker 3: didn't have designs on a Super Bowl, so I think
Speaker 3: it was smart for them to pull back on the
Speaker 3: rains a little bit and just a little frustrating with
Speaker 3: the gambling suspension. I mean, maybe it's a case of
Speaker 3: out site, out of mind with the declining price on
Speaker 3: him in Dynasty. So man, I hope that's not the
Speaker 3: case though, because you know, for the people who watched
Speaker 3: him at Alabama, they know how this dude just crackles
Speaker 3: with electricity when he's on the field. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 3: he is just a big play waiting to happen, you know.
Speaker 3: But I just like, I can't wait to see what
Speaker 3: it looks like in the NFL, and I just like
Speaker 3: I think it's going to translate. But I'm not one
Speaker 3: hundred percent sure, Bogs. I do think the buying is right, though,
Speaker 3: so I endorse your selection of him for this show.
Speaker 1: It's that's the gamble. You got a gamble.
Speaker 2: And right now, like I said, going off at ECR
Speaker 2: number thirty, that's just too low, it is, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: all right, your guy, right now, your next guy, Dynasty
Speaker 2: ECR number forty three.
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to where you have him. Who's your
Speaker 1: next wife?
Speaker 3: Box? It's Kadarius Tony. And even though right now I'm
Speaker 3: only connected see most of our listeners through their air pods,
Speaker 3: I can feel them rolling their eyes at me right
Speaker 3: now with this selection, and look, I understand it. He
Speaker 3: has been extremely fragile so far in his two years.
Speaker 3: He has dealt with ankle, quad, shoulder, hamstring, and oblique injuries,
Speaker 3: knees and toeses and not one but two cases of
Speaker 3: COVID nineteen in twenty twenty one. So but Bogs, I mean, Canarius.
Speaker 3: Tony has just such freakish athleticism and movement skills, and
Speaker 3: when he is healthy enough to play, he draws targets
Speaker 3: at a freaking ridiculous rate, like he is a target magnet.
Speaker 3: Tony has played four hundred and forty five regular season
Speaker 3: snaps in his two years in the league, and he
Speaker 3: has drawn seventy seven targets, which means he's drawn a
Speaker 3: target on seventeen point three percent of his snaps, and
Speaker 3: that includes running plays like George Pickens, who you and
Speaker 3: I have jousted over. Pickens at a fifteen point three
Speaker 3: percent target share left year. Now that's on just passes
Speaker 3: for Pittsburgh last year, Tony's target rate on all his
Speaker 3: snaps is two percentage points higher, and that's including running plays.
Speaker 3: So this guy is just you know, like he's going
Speaker 3: to get the ball. When he's on the field, and
Speaker 3: hopefully that's a lot more often this year. Like the
Speaker 3: Chiefs just kind of had him in these special packages
Speaker 3: last year. He came over late in the season, they
Speaker 3: didn't really have time to fully integrate him into Andy
Speaker 3: Reid's offense. But now man full season of Kadarius Tony
Speaker 3: as a Chief, a full offseason for Andy Reid the
Speaker 3: evil genius to scheme ways up to use Tony. He's
Speaker 3: going to be getting targets from the most efficient target
Speaker 3: delivery mechanism in the game. And Patrick Mahomes like, I'm
Speaker 3: really excited about what this could look like if Knockwoods
Speaker 3: Tony can stay reasonably healthy for a full season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is That's the whole thing with Tony because
Speaker 2: the talent is there, right And by the way, just
Speaker 2: I don't know how much he watched him at Florida,
Speaker 2: but one of the most fun players.
Speaker 3: With electricity guy right, yes.
Speaker 1: And yeah, just a dude electric with the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands.
Speaker 3: And I get the risk, but man, now it's really
Speaker 3: baked in, so like you're almost baking in the fact
Speaker 3: that he's gonna miss a lot of time due to injuries.
Speaker 3: If he doesn't I mean, you can turn just a
Speaker 3: massive profit on this guy.
Speaker 2: And look, you know, we know that Travis Kelsey is
Speaker 2: the number one option, right who's number two?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Because it's not MVS, they brought Hi hid Rice to
Speaker 2: push him out of his job. Sky Moore was disappointing
Speaker 2: last season. I mean, is it Pacheco? Definitely they love
Speaker 2: to throw the ball. Kadarius Tony might be the number
Speaker 2: one wide receiver in this offense. Obviously Kelsey is the
Speaker 2: number one receiver, but he might be the number one
Speaker 2: wide out in this offense. And we just somewhere you
Speaker 2: need to get a piece of the Kansas City offense,
Speaker 2: whether it's like go all the way down to watch
Speaker 2: Richie James or somebody like take just take a stab
Speaker 2: on someone in the Chiefs offense as well and know
Speaker 2: that you're gonna get some production. I mean, MVS is
Speaker 2: a miserable wide receiver and had some good weeks, right,
Speaker 2: Like we think sky Moore can get going too. Like,
Speaker 2: I just still think that they're missing something since Tyreek left.
Speaker 2: They still they were on the Super Bowl. They're obviously
Speaker 2: not missing a lot. You know, they got better on
Speaker 2: defense as well, but they're still missing just a little something.
Speaker 2: I think Tony could be the guy uh to bring
Speaker 2: it out of him. So I love this pick as well.
Speaker 2: Fits is not one that I considered. I do have
Speaker 2: him a little bit lower than ECR even because I
Speaker 2: hate injury prone players. But I mean this is it's
Speaker 2: a cheap buy. A wide receiver four is what you're
Speaker 2: getting at now. So that's like a late third, early
Speaker 2: fourth round pick in a rookie draft. You know, I
Speaker 2: think if you get outside the first round, Fits is
Speaker 2: way more willing to trade those picks later in rookie drafts.
Speaker 2: So yeah, make your move for Kadarius Tony pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Speaking of apologist here, I think I have become the
Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster apologist, you know, just a guy that
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always gonna love him for laying out Vontez perfect.
Speaker 2: But also I think he's just supremely underrated because he
Speaker 2: had the enormous season, and yes, is he that good? No,
Speaker 2: he's not that good. But is he better than a
Speaker 2: wide receiver number five? Because he's going off Juju right now?
Speaker 2: Dynasty ECR forty nine in a twelve man league, that's
Speaker 2: your first wide receiver five, and he's a number one
Speaker 2: wide receiver in his offense in the NFL, it is
Speaker 2: on the Patriots, it is with a subbar quarterback in
Speaker 2: Mac Jones or Bailey Zappi, whoever it is. But he's
Speaker 2: going to be the number one target guy on this team.
Speaker 2: And I think that is probably worth at least a
Speaker 2: wide receiver number four, even in a miserable offense. And
Speaker 2: there are just some wild names. I feel like going
Speaker 2: ahead of Juju. I mean, I don't know, I fits
Speaker 2: are you how far down on him? Because would you
Speaker 2: take Juju over Gabe Davis?
Speaker 3: Yes? I think those thinking about that, they're pretty close.
Speaker 3: In my rankings.
Speaker 2: They took in kid, Yeah, Gabe Davis is gonna shed
Speaker 2: a lot of production. I feel like, how about you
Speaker 2: hate Mike Evans Juju or Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: And juju uh juju? Or I don't hate Mike. Go ahead,
Speaker 3: come on, I just hate you situation.
Speaker 2: Come on, I like Mike Evans more than you do.
Speaker 2: And he went to A and m I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: I also think he won Johnny Manziela Heisman, but there's
Speaker 2: a lot more of that. Marvin Mims is one spot
Speaker 2: ahead of juj. Marvin Mims has touched an NFL field.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Prtland Sutton is ahead of him. I take
Speaker 2: him over Courtland Sutton. Lockett is ahead of him. He's older.
Speaker 2: Hopkins is older. Bateman who we both were down on,
Speaker 2: uh you know, a little bit older as well. By
Speaker 2: the way, I forgot to mention this is the top show.
Speaker 2: I completely made a mistake. He Swift trade for a fourth.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I hit my brain that he
Speaker 2: was traded for a six. So I apologize for making
Speaker 2: that mistake. Still don't like DeAndre Swift that much, but
Speaker 2: you know I did make that mistake last week, so
Speaker 2: meant to clear that up at the top. But Juju,
Speaker 2: I mean, look, here's just competitions for targets. It's Taekwon, Thornton,
Speaker 2: Devonte Parker, Mike Asiki. That's those are the guys that
Speaker 2: are gonna be on the field with him on a
Speaker 2: snap to snap basis. Here, Fitzie, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: Juju is gonna have another one hundred catch season with
Speaker 2: the Patriots here even four team that doesn't throw the
Speaker 2: ball as a run first team, and you know, I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be right in that range because these
Speaker 2: other guys just don't get open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it's gonna look
Speaker 3: like with them. It is just like kind of a
Speaker 3: committee pass catching approach with the two tight ends Kasicki
Speaker 3: and Henry and you know, all these different Like maybe
Speaker 3: Taekwon Thornton breaks out, but I'm not counting on that.
Speaker 3: Maybe Devonte Parker stays healthy. Yeah, it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: weird situation. By I just I think maybe what is
Speaker 3: holding people back. We have not seen Juju duplicate the
Speaker 3: success that he had in the first couple of years
Speaker 3: early in his career, when he was sharing a field
Speaker 3: with Antonio Brown, who unliably made some things a little
Speaker 3: easier for Jujuy by being that big time threat. And
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, I thought things were pretty I'm.
Speaker 1: Not thinking of that year though.
Speaker 2: Let's go fits to twenty twenty, right when he had
Speaker 2: he didn't have a thousand yards receiving. He had eight
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen or whatever it was, eight hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty one nine touchdowns. That's the most touchdowns he's had.
Speaker 2: But he had ninety seven catches that year. Yes, it's
Speaker 2: a far cry from one hundred and eleven for fourteen
Speaker 2: twenty six and seven touchdowns. But I think ninety five
Speaker 2: to one hundred catches with thousand, eleven hundred yards and
Speaker 2: a handful of scores, that's better than wide receiver forty nine.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean like the door is open for him
Speaker 3: to have another big role. But I thought it was
Speaker 3: kind of open last year, like maybe one hundred catch
Speaker 3: season was not in play when on a team with
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey. But I maybe expected a little more from
Speaker 3: Juju last year. I just don't know. I think there's
Speaker 3: a limited ceiling now Boggs, that's the issue, But I
Speaker 3: think the floor is pretty sturdy with Juju. And he's
Speaker 3: still reasonably young. He came into the league so young,
Speaker 3: that's the nice thing.
Speaker 1: He's like eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like he's thirty years old now, but
Speaker 3: he's like, what twenty six.
Speaker 2: So twenty six, yeah, twenty six. He'll be twenty seven
Speaker 2: in November, so still well under thirty. Well traveled guy.
Speaker 2: I just think he's going to become you know, whoever
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks there number one target, and this is another
Speaker 2: team that because they missed with Nikhil Harry, you're probably
Speaker 2: looking at trades or later round picks in the wide
Speaker 2: receiver room for competition for him in New England.
Speaker 1: So and we know they still high.
Speaker 3: And we know they don't know what they're doing when
Speaker 3: it comes to drafting wide receivers and haven for years, so.
Speaker 2: Rightctly, yeah, we know they're not going to make those
Speaker 2: early picks on him. So before we get to another
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Speaker 2: start playing smarter, not harder. I'm gonna jump in with
Speaker 2: another one here, FITZI, because I have one less player
Speaker 2: than you, and this is my Jayleen Hyatt love Jalen Hyatt,
Speaker 2: currently Dynasty ECR of fifty seven. I have him at
Speaker 2: forty three and yes, it was only one year of
Speaker 2: production for Hyatt at Tennessee.
Speaker 1: But to me, he has almost unmatchable speed.
Speaker 2: I know, I mean it's hyperbole, of course, but Hendon
Speaker 2: Hooker just said, you know, I think you have a
Speaker 2: faster guy than Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's fast than tyreek Hill. But that's
Speaker 1: the type. That's the level of speed we're talking about.
Speaker 2: He kill competitiveness here, right and last season at Tennessee
Speaker 2: he was top twenty in yards after the catch, top
Speaker 2: ten in yards per route run, second in touchdowns in
Speaker 2: the country with fifteen. The Giants don't have anyone to
Speaker 2: dominate passes right now, as we talked about earlier with
Speaker 2: Danny Dimes, and I've said this before, I can't wait
Speaker 2: to see just you know, the deep route from Hyatt,
Speaker 2: the underneath from Waller, you know, the intermediate, and the
Speaker 2: underneath from Saquon. So that middle of the field for
Speaker 2: the Giants on a play like that, I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be hard. You're gonna it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 2: not find somebody open there for Daniel Jones. So I'm
Speaker 2: excited about what he potentially brings to this offense and
Speaker 2: you know, he's dripping with potential. So if you can
Speaker 2: get him as a late wide receiver five, right now,
Speaker 2: I think that's a good deal. And I do think that,
Speaker 2: you know, when we start to see some preseason highlights
Speaker 2: and some training camp highlights and stuff, he's going to
Speaker 2: start moving up and up draft boards. So right now,
Speaker 2: I think if someone has drafted him, you're working a trade.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get him as a kick in because
Speaker 2: his value solow. Maybe you can get him for a
Speaker 2: late pick next year or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt is a guy that I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: bunch of shares of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, not one of my favorite wide receivers
Speaker 3: in this class, but either he is a one trick pony,
Speaker 3: and if he is, boy that trick is, it's still
Speaker 3: one heck of a trick. I mean, this dude can
Speaker 3: absolutely fly, or he's more well rounded. We're than at
Speaker 3: least I'm giving him credit for, in which case he's
Speaker 3: absolutely undervalued.
Speaker 2: At this price and he's probably not more well rounded.
Speaker 2: But he comes into the league and you know you're
Speaker 2: not a finished project. Project, you know you're not a
Speaker 2: finished product. Come in, get some refinement, become a better player.
Speaker 2: And now you're you know, with that speed. That's a
Speaker 2: tool that you can't teach. So I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2: We'll move a little quicker on the last couple. One
Speaker 2: stand out before an hour here, But who you got
Speaker 2: up next here, FITZI.
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce, who right now? I think his dynasty ECR
Speaker 3: is wide receiver sixty one. And I heard Matt Harmon
Speaker 3: of Yahoo the Reception Perception got talking about this, like
Speaker 3: George Pickens and Alec Pierce not totally dissimilar profiles. Pickens
Speaker 3: ECR is wide receiver thirty two, pierces wide receiver sixty one.
Speaker 3: And I mean Pierce is six three, two hundred and
Speaker 3: eight pounds with four to four speed, and his average
Speaker 3: depth of target as a rookie was eleven point seven yards.
Speaker 3: This is a vertical receiver. Well, Anthony Richardson could be
Speaker 3: really good for Pierce for a couple of reasons. One
Speaker 3: is that Richardson has a big arm, so I think
Speaker 3: he is going to like letting that arm out. And
Speaker 3: it's like they've got the slot guy in Josh Downs.
Speaker 3: They've got sort of the the you know, middle of
Speaker 3: the field, you know, mid range guy, in Michael Pittman,
Speaker 3: and then like they've got the field stretcher in Pierce.
Speaker 3: And the other thing about it with the running threat
Speaker 3: that Anthony Richardson Poe's not to mention that the running
Speaker 3: threat Jonathan Taylor pos is you're not going to see
Speaker 3: safeties playing back twenty yards off the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: against the call. It's like they're going to be cheating
Speaker 3: up and that's going to make it easier for Alec
Speaker 3: Pearce to do business downfield. So like, I'm excited about
Speaker 3: how he could possibly fit with Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2: I like the I like the the comp with George
Speaker 2: Pickens Fitzy. I love it because it's kind of a like,
Speaker 2: you know, have you ever seen that book Eat This?
Speaker 2: Not that it'll like be what do you like to eat?
Speaker 2: We'll eat this instead. That's kind of what this is.
Speaker 2: It's like, we know you like George Pickens, right, but
Speaker 2: you could get this guy for you know, six seven
Speaker 2: rounds later. He's basically free ride now. And he has
Speaker 2: the same type of skill set. He didn't make those
Speaker 2: highlight catches, which is why. And he's not as weird
Speaker 2: and eccentric as Pickens, which is why Pickens is higher.
Speaker 2: But I love this pick especially as you mentioned with
Speaker 2: you know Richardson having the huge arm, So I really
Speaker 2: like that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, am I go ahead, I.
Speaker 3: Was just gonna say, I mean, Pickens is is definitely
Speaker 3: like I don't think Pierce says that special contested catch
Speaker 3: ability that Pickens has. But Pierce might also be a
Speaker 3: better separator because we know Pickens has kind of struggled
Speaker 3: in that category so far.
Speaker 2: Sure, and both these guys once again young unfinished products,
Speaker 2: still a lot of room to grow, so I love
Speaker 2: it for both of them. Speaking of unfinished products, let's
Speaker 2: go to John Metchi my wide receiver forty eight. I
Speaker 2: wanted to make him at least as a bottom ended
Speaker 2: wide receiver number four right now is ECR is seventy
Speaker 2: one among you know wide receivers. And I understand people
Speaker 2: will take him off the board all because of the leukemia,
Speaker 2: and I get it right, Like, you know, he could
Speaker 2: be injury prone, he could not be very good, and
Speaker 2: look at Alabama. He also had DeVante Smith and his
Speaker 2: Heisman year next to him, and Jameson Williams in his
Speaker 2: year as the big Dog next to him as well.
Speaker 2: But I think that he helped both those guys, and
Speaker 2: both those guys helped him. You look at Houston, you
Speaker 2: got a brand new quarterback, and who is going to
Speaker 2: be the number one target guy here?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Schultz for sure? Because you have
Speaker 1: the ghost of Robins Woods in there.
Speaker 2: Nico Collins is good, but you know, and maybe he's
Speaker 2: the main guy. But I think John Metchi has a
Speaker 2: chance to be the number one wide receiver here. They
Speaker 2: waited to take Tank Dell. I think everybody's going to
Speaker 2: be on the field here for Houston, but I think
Speaker 2: Mechi has a real shot to earn his way as
Speaker 2: the Texans number one wide receiver. And he is free
Speaker 2: right now. He's a free agent pickup in most leagues,
Speaker 2: and you know, in deeper leagues he's a late late pick.
Speaker 2: Like I said, wide receiver seventy one on boards right now.
Speaker 2: So I'm all over getting John Metschi for free right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's interesting. Bugs. We're gonna have a
Speaker 3: kind of interesting test case in baseball here with Liam Hendrix,
Speaker 3: the White Sox closer coming back from about with cancer.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm interested to see how that goes.
Speaker 3: Not that like you know, he and MATCHI have like
Speaker 3: exactly the same situations or anything. But you know, it'll
Speaker 3: be interesting to see how close to the old Liam
Speaker 3: Hendricks he is when he comes back, because he was
Speaker 3: pretty dominant.
Speaker 1: James Color went through it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, and he came back as good as new.
Speaker 3: So I think you're probably right. And it's another case
Speaker 3: of out of sight, out of mind, as it is
Speaker 3: with his you know, former running mate at Alabama, Jamison Williams.
Speaker 3: So it'll be nice to have both of those guys
Speaker 3: in an NFL field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just free too. I mean that was really the
Speaker 2: main point was this guy is free right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, put up a couple of highlight reel catches
Speaker 2: in the preseason. He's not going to be so. But
Speaker 2: you have the last two players here, FITZI, who do
Speaker 2: you got?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can go through these guys pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Bogs one is Khalil Shakir, also very cheap. I think
Speaker 3: he's going to be the Bill's slot guy this year.
Speaker 3: You know, they do not have Isaiah McKenzie anymore. They
Speaker 3: did bring in Deontay Hardy, but Deontay Hardy is six
Speaker 3: five foot six, and I really think he's just going
Speaker 3: to be a kick return guy and a gadget guy.
Speaker 3: And you know, they did bring in Cole Beasley again
Speaker 3: late last year, and I know Beasley has expressed interest
Speaker 3: in coming back this year, but he's thirty four man,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just don't know exactly, and I
Speaker 3: think Shakier is just better than those guys. And you know,
Speaker 3: one thing Shakiir did really well and better than any
Speaker 3: other rookie wide receiver last year was get open against
Speaker 3: man coverage. And according to PFF, shakir separation rate against
Speaker 3: man coverage forty eight point six percent, So that did
Speaker 3: lead all rookie receivers. And if he can just become
Speaker 3: that effective or nearly that effective against zone, he's going
Speaker 3: to be really good. And I just love this guy.
Speaker 3: When he was at Boise State, Bogs so competitive and
Speaker 3: really really special after the catch, like you know, not
Speaker 3: necessarily that fast, but just like so determined to get
Speaker 3: yardage after the catch. And uh, for some real Bill
Speaker 3: synergy Bogs. He's been working with Eric Molds in the offseason.
Speaker 3: I love seeing that.
Speaker 1: For some reason.
Speaker 3: Man, that's that's just really cool. So I'm in Shakir,
Speaker 3: who is very cheap. By the way, My final guy
Speaker 3: will wrap it up with Jolannie Woods, who is you know,
Speaker 3: talk about an athletic specimen. This dude is six ' seven,
Speaker 3: has the wingspan of a pterodactyl pterodactyl and man four
Speaker 3: point six toy one speed like that size and uh
Speaker 3: you know, that kind of movement ability and we saw
Speaker 3: like little flashes of it last year. He had a
Speaker 3: two touchdown game against the Chiefs and bogs Heed an
Speaker 3: eight cats three yard game against your Pittsburgh Steelers last year.
Speaker 3: So he's yeah, he's pretty clearly the tight end one
Speaker 3: for Indie and uh, you know, I'm excited to see
Speaker 3: what he's going to do this year.
Speaker 2: I wrote up tight ends in the Black Book. Also
Speaker 2: a very big fan of Jelani Woods. I think that
Speaker 2: extremely underrated right now. And Shakiro, I know our boy
Speaker 2: Erickson loves Deanta Hardy because they gave Bills, gave him
Speaker 2: a little money, is going to be that first slot option.
Speaker 2: But look, Shakira is free right now, wide receiver eighty
Speaker 2: three on the board, lower than Mechi that we were
Speaker 2: talking about. So I think that both these guys are
Speaker 2: great buys, especially Woods, But I mean throw a dart
Speaker 2: on Shakiri probably pick them up for free on a
Speaker 2: lot of wires right now, So that is going to
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