Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Froze Dynasty Football Podcast, brought to
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Speaker 1: by Pat Fitzports as always at FITS Underscore FF. Today
Speaker 1: we're gonna be bringing you free agent movements and what
Speaker 1: it's going to do to our rankings. Fits. How's your weekend? Man?
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Speaker 1: Just a normal march right where your bracket is completely flamed. Well.
Speaker 1: Today on the show to talk about these free agent
Speaker 1: signings in the movement and all that good stuff, we're
Speaker 1: bringing in John Hetserman. John is a feature DFS writer
Speaker 1: at Fantasy Pros and you write for at DL Football. John,
Speaker 1: What is going on, my friend? Welcome to the show. Yeah, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Really looking forward to getting into
Speaker 1: some of this. This has been quite the off season
Speaker 1: so far, so there's a lot of implications that ripple around.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a lot of fun to
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Speaker 1: our podcast. So, without further adode fits, John, let's get
Speaker 1: into these quarterbacks, and let's just start out with a banger,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson getting traded to Cleveland for a boatload of
Speaker 1: picks going back to Houston. They also signed to Kobe Brissette.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has submitted his trade requests. Doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it's going very swimmingly for him right now. But I
Speaker 1: have moved down personally. I've moved to Shaun Watson up
Speaker 1: from thirteen to five. I moved Mayfield to twenty six
Speaker 1: from twenty three. John, you're the guest. I will let
Speaker 1: you go here. How are you moving to Shaun Watson
Speaker 1: on your dynasty board? And you know, Baker Mayfield obviously
Speaker 1: takes a giant hit here as well. Yeah, Mayfield definitely
Speaker 1: takes a slam. There's not seeing a lot of interest
Speaker 1: as far as chatter around the league right now for him,
Speaker 1: and the spots for a starting job are kind of
Speaker 1: dwindling away. So he's kind of he's tanked a little
Speaker 1: bit for me right now. Obviously that'll change when we
Speaker 1: get some clarity, but I've moved Watson up into that
Speaker 1: quarterback eight nine range for dynasty purposes. Right now, there's
Speaker 1: still you know, muddy water here about how this is
Speaker 1: going to be handled. So bringing in Brissette and the
Speaker 1: way they structured the deal like it's all but a
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion that he's going to miss some time, it's
Speaker 1: just how much and when. So I still think for
Speaker 1: his age and what he represents to a team that's
Speaker 1: kind of built more and win now mode than than
Speaker 1: the Texans ever were with him there. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think landing him in that just inside that top ten
Speaker 1: range is pretty adequate. Yeah. And personal opinion obviously plays
Speaker 1: a big role into Shaun Watson here fits. And if
Speaker 1: if you guys can't stand Deshaun Watson, take him off
Speaker 1: your list. I have no issues with that whatsoever. You know,
Speaker 1: the first things first, with fantasy supposed to be fun.
Speaker 1: If you can't enjoy taking a guy, don't put them
Speaker 1: in your rankings. I completely understand that, But I mean
Speaker 1: taking the off field stuff away, which is still like
Speaker 1: John mentioned, is still murky right now, but the criminal
Speaker 1: charges seemed to be gone. That's why the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: just made him. He gave him the most guaranteed money
Speaker 1: in NFL history, more than anybody, which to me was
Speaker 1: a little bit insane because it's not all the ways settled,
Speaker 1: and you know, one more allegation would be wrong. You
Speaker 1: think twenty two out there, there could easily be a
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four, twenty five. But fits moving Watson
Speaker 1: has been tough. We mentioned it before, so where did
Speaker 1: you move him? And then the Baker Mayfield fallout is
Speaker 1: rough as well. So I've got Watson at QB seven. Now,
Speaker 1: as John mentioned, we don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: to him. We know there's gonna be some sort of suspension,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of how long. And you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen him be a top five quarterback consistently when
Speaker 1: he has played full seasons, and I think that's about
Speaker 1: what his value is going to be. Aside from Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: there's no better combination of running and passing in any
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, so immenseally valuable. I suspect the
Speaker 1: Browns will not continue to be as run heavy as
Speaker 1: they have been now that they have a lethal passer
Speaker 1: helming the offense. So yeah, I think quarterback seven is
Speaker 1: pretty reasonable for him and Mayfield. I've got him down
Speaker 1: at thirty four. I mean, I just don't blame you.
Speaker 1: Maybe the NFL is just telling us this guy's a
Speaker 1: backup that there is really no interest. Everyone else filled
Speaker 1: in with Mitch Trubisky, Marcus Mariota. Um, you know, basically,
Speaker 1: as as we record this on Monday, in March, twenty seconds,
Speaker 1: the Panthers and Baker Mayfield expressed mutual disinterest in each other.
Speaker 1: So I mean that who does that leave Seattle? That's it?
Speaker 1: And if Seattle doesn't want Baker, Baker's going to be
Speaker 1: a backup somewhere in twenty twenty two. And the rumor
Speaker 1: today as we're recording this, I saw it like five
Speaker 1: minutes before we started here, is that the Browns may
Speaker 1: have to attach a pick to get rid of Mayfield,
Speaker 1: which is just I mean, that's something you see in
Speaker 1: baseball moves, a repeat of their brock Osweiler trade. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that was the memory that got brought up from
Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, the Baker's gonna have like have to
Speaker 1: have a come to Jesus talk with his ego about
Speaker 1: how this goes. Yeah, I mean, you know that's our buddy, Gary,
Speaker 1: who we had on last week is a Browns fan
Speaker 1: and he's having a tough time with this Watson trade.
Speaker 1: And he also said, hey, look, you know, um, the
Speaker 1: Panthers were in on Deshaun too, and so were the Falcons.
Speaker 1: And you didn't see Sam Darnold going to Twitter to
Speaker 1: write anything. You didn't see an IG post from Matt Ryan, right,
Speaker 1: So you know, it's the immaturity that has been the
Speaker 1: issue for Mayfield. The play has been okay, but the
Speaker 1: immaturity is rough. The other QB moves here, we I mean,
Speaker 1: there's this whole slew of them, so I'll just run
Speaker 1: through them guys. Russell Wilson obviously traded to Denver. They
Speaker 1: also signed Josh Johnson. Now right now, Drew Locke is
Speaker 1: the starter in Seattle. They could draft someone they could
Speaker 1: trade for Baker Mayfield. Those could happen. Matt Ryan traded
Speaker 1: to the Colts and then Atlanta to replace him signed
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. Trabisky signed with the Steelers. Masons Rudolph, thank God,
Speaker 1: is back to the bench. Carson Wentz traded to Washington
Speaker 1: two times in two years. There's pretty much no market
Speaker 1: for Jimmy g and Jamis did end up resigning with
Speaker 1: the Saints. So lots of QB movement here, John, So
Speaker 1: let's first get your thoughts on Russell Wilson. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Russ should be in that top twelve range for
Speaker 1: QB's right now. Good playmaker now as a complete set
Speaker 1: of weapons, Javante Sutton, Judy, Albert Oh. I mean that's
Speaker 1: Albert Oh. That that's telling the Broncos felt good enough
Speaker 1: to let Fant walk and keep Albert Oh. So that
Speaker 1: seems to bode well for what he's going to represent
Speaker 1: in that offense. I like the defense, it's it's built better,
Speaker 1: So I think he's put in a positive position. I
Speaker 1: think he upgrades the people around him, which is always
Speaker 1: a good thing when when it comes to your quarterback,
Speaker 1: when you know they're going to elevate the play of
Speaker 1: the receivers around him. And I just I could see
Speaker 1: Russ finally getting an opportunity to cook, you know, an
Speaker 1: opportunity to throw thirty plus pass attempts a game where
Speaker 1: I think last year average around twenty eight and a
Speaker 1: half per contest. I could see him at thirty five
Speaker 1: US range if they want to let him, let him
Speaker 1: go after it fits your thoughts on Russ. I've got
Speaker 1: him at fourteen. The only quote unquote old guy, the
Speaker 1: guy that was born in the same decade as me,
Speaker 1: that I have above him is Stafford, just because you
Speaker 1: know they keep adding weapons and he averaged over twenty
Speaker 1: three points a game last year. But I don't have
Speaker 1: him inside that top twelve. I just got I still
Speaker 1: believe in Lawrence. I've got Lawrence ahead of him. I've
Speaker 1: got Trey Lance and his potential in fields. This guy's
Speaker 1: that run ahead of Russ, and they're much much younger
Speaker 1: than him. So is he a QB one to you
Speaker 1: as well or is he on that fringe? Just barely
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm in the same place with him as
Speaker 1: John is. I've got him at quarterback twelve, and it's
Speaker 1: mainly that he has not run for a while. But
Speaker 1: I do think they are going to open up the
Speaker 1: pantry for Russ and let him cook, finally, give him
Speaker 1: those high quality ingredients, those herbs and spices he needs
Speaker 1: to chef it up in Denver. So I think that's
Speaker 1: the reason maybe I bumped him up, maybe like one spot, right, Yeah, rankings,
Speaker 1: you know, not a not a major ce change for
Speaker 1: his overall dynasty outlook right. I like that. And when
Speaker 1: we get into these lower tier quarterbacks and just say,
Speaker 1: you guys know for all of the list, when it
Speaker 1: looks like myself and Fits have big different numbers, it's
Speaker 1: because Fits has included the rookies into his rankings. I
Speaker 1: just I don't do it until the draft. So I
Speaker 1: will rank these guys. I'll rank the players, but I
Speaker 1: don't put them in with the other guys. Just team
Speaker 1: have so much contents, context, and it drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: You don't like changing it like three times a day, No,
Speaker 1: I do not, especially I'm doing ECR Baseball rankings as
Speaker 1: well right now too. And the free agents all flooded
Speaker 1: in in one week, so Welsh and I are doing
Speaker 1: hell week. I mean, it's just it's it's a whole
Speaker 1: thing right now. My brain is melting. John, Do you
Speaker 1: do you have those guys in there? Or do you? Um?
Speaker 1: Do you not do it until after the raft as well?
Speaker 1: I shore him up a little bit more after the draft,
Speaker 1: so I don't have them completely included I've got the
Speaker 1: top couple I think included in there right now, but
Speaker 1: it's not a full list until we get past the draft.
Speaker 1: So I just operate that way because I'm adverse to
Speaker 1: like shuffling things around twice a week or three times
Speaker 1: a day, or whatever the case may be. It's completely
Speaker 1: understandable moving down this list. Matt Ryan to the Colts.
Speaker 1: I moved him up from thirty three to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Mario is signing what the Falcons. I moved from twenty
Speaker 1: nine to thirty four. I put Trabiskie up to twenty
Speaker 1: two now that we know he's a starter. I think
Speaker 1: the guy has some wheels. There's good weapons in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: A thing that a lot of people overlook is I
Speaker 1: think the only team that had less time leading in
Speaker 1: the NFL last season in terms of clock time was
Speaker 1: Jacksonville against Pittsburgh. So there's a lot of garbage time
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. So a lot of that was just been
Speaker 1: Big Ben being horrific last season. And then Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: I moved him one spot down to thirty. I don't
Speaker 1: think that much change from him going from Indie to Washington.
Speaker 1: So your movement on Matt Ryan, Mariota, Traubisky, and Wentz,
Speaker 1: John what do you look on those for us? So
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is still like he's in that same range
Speaker 1: for me. I've got him in that twenty five twenty
Speaker 1: six range is kind of where I have him right now.
Speaker 1: I do think he kind of improves like where he
Speaker 1: moved to as far as having not having the defense
Speaker 1: breathing down his face the whole time. Like, I think
Speaker 1: the past attempts might actually come down because he's not
Speaker 1: gonna like every play is not going to be well,
Speaker 1: we're two touchdowns down now, right, So, yeah, they've got
Speaker 1: a defense to play with, he's got an offensive line
Speaker 1: that can protect him. And I alway said the same
Speaker 1: thing about Wentz last year about having an upgrade in
Speaker 1: offensive line. So I do think the past attempts might
Speaker 1: come down a little bit. And that's why I've kind
Speaker 1: of been hesitant to move him up too much. But
Speaker 1: he's definitely got some improvements there, So I moved him
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Let's see, Carson went I've got
Speaker 1: him right right around where you do. I've got him
Speaker 1: at thirty, So I didn't I didn't bump him too
Speaker 1: much one way or the other. Um, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna game manage his way there. I did bump as
Speaker 1: far as like ancillary pieces. I do think this is
Speaker 1: good for McLaurin. I think this, I think this might
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback he's had so far. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but I'm curious to see how how he
Speaker 1: responds there and Mitch, Mitch, I'm a little more aggressive
Speaker 1: on I've got him up at at twenty I got
Speaker 1: him up in QB T. The fact that Tomlin stressed
Speaker 1: the need for mobility, um, which miskin yea, yeah, like
Speaker 1: that was such a big crucial point for him that
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna let him unlock that side of
Speaker 1: his play, which he definitely has. And Naggie always gave
Speaker 1: him the bad boy kind of treatment when he would,
Speaker 1: you know, get creative and escape the pocket. And I
Speaker 1: think Tomlin's gonna embrace that and let him go. And
Speaker 1: I like the weapon and City's got like this same
Speaker 1: trubisky back in what was a twenty nineteen and I
Speaker 1: should have looked this up. Uh he threw it to
Speaker 1: Ellen Robinson one hundred and fifty plus times, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So they've got Deonte Johnson so um, he's got Naji
Speaker 1: Harris and I think that same year, back in nineteen
Speaker 1: he forced fed treet Cohen over one Hunter targets like
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to get to hit the guy that's open.
Speaker 1: I think he's got in that top twenty like upside,
Speaker 1: maybe a lot crazy on it. No, I've got him
Speaker 1: at twenty two. Fitz, you're probably gonna be low man
Speaker 1: on mister Trubisky. Here. Fitz was firing some messages at
Speaker 1: me before we started. Here, we're gonna have some healthy debate.
Speaker 1: I believe the quote was, so I love it when
Speaker 1: we argue, Bogman argue. So yeah, I've got I've got
Speaker 1: Wentz thirtieth, Trubisky thirty first, Matt Ryan thirty second. So
Speaker 1: those guys are I put them into the waiting to
Speaker 1: be replaced category with all those guys, Trubisky, Ryan, and Wentz.
Speaker 1: Like Ryan, you know he's being phased at this might
Speaker 1: be his last year as a starter. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: always my age, so his NFL career is not much longer.
Speaker 1: So you know, the Colts took one look at Wentz,
Speaker 1: had him for a year and said, no, thanks, we
Speaker 1: want to do something else at quarterback Trubisky is the
Speaker 1: one guy. Maybe I'm short selling here. He does have
Speaker 1: great weapons, he's intriguing. Maybe he was just mishandled by
Speaker 1: Matt and Age and the Chicago Bears coaching staff. So
Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of hope for him,
Speaker 1: although I'm not sure what it's going to look like.
Speaker 1: If the Steelers can't get that line rebuilt this year,
Speaker 1: that's going to be a problem. But I do have
Speaker 1: those three guys behind five rookies as of now, Malik Willis,
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, Matt Coral, and I'm not necessarily giving these
Speaker 1: an order. Willis, Coral, Ritter gets and how wow, thank you,
Speaker 1: and so like, I'm okay with these guys. If you
Speaker 1: need in a super flex dynasty league to fill a spot,
Speaker 1: if everyone wants three quarterbacks going in, if one of
Speaker 1: these guys is You're three, You're fine. Like, it's good
Speaker 1: to have that sort of depth. I think most of
Speaker 1: these guys should be starters, barring injury, for most of
Speaker 1: the season, although we'll see how things go with the draft.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if any of them suddenly had
Speaker 1: a rookie looking over their shoulder. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't have much hope that these guys are going
Speaker 1: to redeem themselves and be seen as like average NFL
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks. And that's more than fair, you know. And
Speaker 1: you're a Bears fan, so not surprising that they talk
Speaker 1: about fire and JK, you just live in Chicago, JK, JK.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, you you did get to see
Speaker 1: Traubisky twice. You probably look god awful against Green Bay
Speaker 1: right so much? You know, I understand that it's kind
Speaker 1: of this same thing that I do with Baker is
Speaker 1: I look at him and Xisco Yeah, no thanks, But
Speaker 1: the one thing so I feel like Trubisky Mariota kind
Speaker 1: of the same skill settish, you know, but I think
Speaker 1: that you know, Mariota goes into a situation with a
Speaker 1: bad run game without a number one wide receiver, only
Speaker 1: a second year tight end is your main target that
Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball to, versus Trubisky with you know,
Speaker 1: the Matt Canada offense. That's going to change a lot
Speaker 1: than what we saw from Roethlisberger. He's got Theante, he's
Speaker 1: got Nagy. Uh. They already got two new pieces on
Speaker 1: that line at center with Cole and a guard with Daniels,
Speaker 1: your boy, James Daniels, another Chicago Bear, so JK J,
Speaker 1: of course, But um, you know, uh, I think that
Speaker 1: the pieces are there for Trubisky where they aren't for Mariota.
Speaker 1: Mario a better runner, and he may just have to
Speaker 1: break that out so that that may end up being
Speaker 1: the thing that boost Mariota if he does take a
Speaker 1: big jump this year. But you know, if some butts
Speaker 1: and candies and nuts and all that stuff. So let's
Speaker 1: go down to the running backs here, and a decent
Speaker 1: amount of running back movement. We have Raheem Mosart and
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds signed with the Dolphins, James Connor back to
Speaker 1: Arizona for net back with the Bucks, Cordell Patterson back
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Damian Williams signed there as well, Rashad Penny
Speaker 1: back to Seattle as the main pieces here now John
Speaker 1: for in terms of most Sert and Chase Edmonds, this
Speaker 1: is a very interesting scenario here because who is the
Speaker 1: number one back. They signed Edmonds first, but most Sert
Speaker 1: has experience with McDaniel from San Francisco, So for me,
Speaker 1: I moved Mosert to thirty eight. I moved Edmonds from
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty seven, so I have them right
Speaker 1: next to each other. I gave a little edge to
Speaker 1: Edmonds for being the prior free agent out of these two. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong on that. Maybe Moster is more of
Speaker 1: the first second down guy. They just like Chase Edmonds
Speaker 1: for what he brings a little bit more. But what
Speaker 1: do you think in terms of the Dolphins backfield here,
Speaker 1: I think it's Mostert until it isn't. And that's like
Speaker 1: he's got an injury history. Like when he gets to carries,
Speaker 1: he's fantastic with him, but he isn't able to sustain it.
Speaker 1: So I've got him in that that in a similar range,
Speaker 1: I've got him down at RB forty because I know
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get a full season out of him,
Speaker 1: but I do think, I do think he's gonna lead
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be the one two Thumber, and I
Speaker 1: think that you know, he'll give way at some point.
Speaker 1: So I've got him in the same range. I've got
Speaker 1: him right there at like you said, right around thirty
Speaker 1: eight is where I have him. So yeah, in a
Speaker 1: similar tier. But I do think where Hee Moster gets
Speaker 1: the first crack at it fits your thoughts on this
Speaker 1: Dolphins backfield. It's it's an interesting one. I kind of
Speaker 1: wish they would have signed one thumper, like just get
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette in there and be done with it. But
Speaker 1: they're going with the dual system, which is what San
Speaker 1: Francisco has been known for, which is what McDaniel brings over.
Speaker 1: And would it totally shock you guys if they drafted
Speaker 1: a running back, would shock me at all. So for
Speaker 1: that reason, I've got Edmunds down at running back thirty
Speaker 1: seven and most starts running back seventy one. I just
Speaker 1: cannot gin up any enthusiastic look at Bogman's eyes get
Speaker 1: wide when I say that. But fine, I mean, my goodness,
Speaker 1: you guys. So he turns thirty on April ninth. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty. He can't stay healthy. We've already seen that.
Speaker 1: That's not going to improve. I don't think as he
Speaker 1: hits his thirties and like, he's not going to be
Speaker 1: a lead back. Maybe he is. The gets a plurality
Speaker 1: of the work, a majority of the work, but we
Speaker 1: know he's gonna share with Edmunds and possibly a draft pick.
Speaker 1: So I'm just not enthusiastic about mostart at all, like,
Speaker 1: I just don't know how many more starts you're gonna
Speaker 1: be giving him in your Dynasty league, So can you
Speaker 1: just give me, like, give me the three guys ahead
Speaker 1: of most Sart that you have on that list. So
Speaker 1: so first of all, let's I mean, I should stipulate
Speaker 1: that a lot of the dudes that I've got ahead
Speaker 1: of him are rookies. Rookies, okay, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1: There's probably like fifteen guys, so you know that are
Speaker 1: going to be drafted that and you may just have
Speaker 1: all of them if you don't think most Sart's gonna
Speaker 1: do much. So the seventy one ranking as eye popping
Speaker 1: as it is, I understand with so many rookies in there.
Speaker 1: I just m because I just want to, like, do
Speaker 1: you have like Cana Niguano, I had it like guy's
Speaker 1: gonna do nothing like most Sart will at least give
Speaker 1: you like ten games this year. I feel like interesting,
Speaker 1: I might have Nikuan who I head hold on him
Speaker 1: calling it up right now. I should. I should ask
Speaker 1: you to have this ready to go before. This is
Speaker 1: my bad. This is this is uh, you know, Fantasy
Speaker 1: pros on the fly. Here it's It's funny though, Juan,
Speaker 1: I know it's right in that neighborhood, but here, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know you like him. That's why that's the
Speaker 1: name I picked out. You know, it's just not you know,
Speaker 1: it would take three guys to get hurt for him
Speaker 1: to do something. Now, if the Dolphins draft a big back,
Speaker 1: if they draft Briefe Hall or something, then I don't
Speaker 1: think Edmonds's This is why I have Edmonds one spot
Speaker 1: ahead of Mostart as of now. I think Edmonds doesn't move,
Speaker 1: his role doesn't change, but it goes way down for Mostart,
Speaker 1: So I would probably move him in that range if
Speaker 1: they draft someone they just haven't yet. That's all right.
Speaker 1: So I am a sucker for youth bogs. And so
Speaker 1: the four running backs I have directly ahead of Raheem
Speaker 1: Mostart are Kenna duong Wu, Chris Evans and then two
Speaker 1: pass catchers and Nihi and Hinz and JD. McKissick. Okay,
Speaker 1: Hinz and McKissick. I'm not going to fight you on,
Speaker 1: but n Iguana and Chris Evans are just there two
Speaker 1: spots behind here. So you know, p Ryan they loved.
Speaker 1: I don't know Chris Evans should better than p Ryan.
Speaker 1: I agree with you there underutilizing Michigan as well. Uh, No,
Speaker 1: Iguana is probably better than most Sart, but he's he's
Speaker 1: so far behind here, so um, okay, look I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fight for most at
Speaker 1: that hard because as soon as I fight from the
Speaker 1: guy's gonna, you know, break his stuff and not come back.
Speaker 1: So it wouldn't be that shocking, No, it's it's definitely
Speaker 1: there's a philososophical difference at work. You're more of a
Speaker 1: bird in the hand guy. I'm more of the wish
Speaker 1: upon a star guy. And maybe you know, you're more
Speaker 1: pragmatic here, and a lot of people I think would
Speaker 1: side with your way of roster building there. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, I just think, you know, most Sturt's looking
Speaker 1: at like a one or two year window of possibly
Speaker 1: being productive, and the possibly with is with the big
Speaker 1: asterisk of his injury history. And uh, you know, he's
Speaker 1: very true, made out of glass, so very true. Uh.
Speaker 1: James Connor going back to Arizona with Edmond's gone, I
Speaker 1: moved him up two spots from thirty to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Now I've said this many many times. I love James Connor,
Speaker 1: but I have friends zoned him because I watched him
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. He gets hurt so often. It's not his fault.
Speaker 1: His body went through a lot when he had cancer, obviously,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that you can get about two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five touches out of him. But if
Speaker 1: you're Pittsburgh and you put that in the first eight
Speaker 1: weeks of the season because you only go with one back,
Speaker 1: he breaks down. I thought him with Edmonds was perfect.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'd be happier with Connor if the
Speaker 1: Cardinals bring in someone or draft someone that can be
Speaker 1: a B back to his A you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't move him up a lot.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are excited about Edmonds
Speaker 1: being gone and him getting a full workload, but I
Speaker 1: just don't think he can last with three hundred touches.
Speaker 1: I think two fifties probably an absolute max for him. John,
Speaker 1: Where do you have Connor? And did you move him
Speaker 1: a lot or a little after Edmunds is gone? Just
Speaker 1: a little? But I wasn't as high on him. I
Speaker 1: know everybody wants to look at the insane amount of
Speaker 1: touchdowns he got versus the carries, and when you have
Speaker 1: a number that's that skewed carry count versus touchdowns, like
Speaker 1: I get nervous. So I didn't have him as high
Speaker 1: as some other people had him to begin with. So
Speaker 1: I've got him down at RB thirty two. He's kind
Speaker 1: of sharing a range with Damien Harris, who also scored
Speaker 1: like fifteen touchdowns last year, so he's kind of in
Speaker 1: that same range. But Damian Harris is a little bit
Speaker 1: of youth on his side. And yeah, I'm worried about
Speaker 1: the injury history. I'm worried about him getting a full workload.
Speaker 1: We know he can be a good back. We know
Speaker 1: that he can catch passes. We know that he's actually
Speaker 1: really really good on the goal line. He's fantastic on
Speaker 1: the goal line. The skill sets there, The skill set
Speaker 1: is there. It's just it's nagging injuries and he tries
Speaker 1: to play through some of them and that usually ends
Speaker 1: up making one bad week or one missed week turn
Speaker 1: into a stretch of three games of subpart performance and
Speaker 1: then just it hasn't been enough for me to move
Speaker 1: the needle up a lot fits your thoughts on James Connor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have long been a James Connor skeptic, but last
Speaker 1: year I was really encouraged by what we saw when
Speaker 1: Edmunds got hurt at mid season and we got five
Speaker 1: games of Connor having the load all to himself, and
Speaker 1: he caught twenty four passes over a five game stretch
Speaker 1: after barely being targeted in the passing game the first
Speaker 1: seven or eight games where Edmonds was playing. So, yes,
Speaker 1: there is a worrisome injury history. Yes, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: someone else there taking the load, whether it's Eno Benjamin
Speaker 1: or someone they draft. Maybe he'll be Rashad White staying
Speaker 1: in Arizona, going from Arizona State to the Cardinals and
Speaker 1: get the full Sundel. That's right, That's right. So there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a someone helping him out. And I would
Speaker 1: be kind of nervous about his longevity too if he
Speaker 1: was a pure lead back, But I like that we
Speaker 1: saw he can be a pass catcher, and hopefully the
Speaker 1: Cars haven't forgotten about that and don't just completely pull
Speaker 1: him on all obvious passing situations. But even so, I
Speaker 1: think they're going to maybe work him into the passing
Speaker 1: game more on early downs after what he did for
Speaker 1: them last year. So I've got him up at twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and that you're high on him because you've got rookies
Speaker 1: in your rankings too, so you are a high man.
Speaker 1: But three of us, I mean ECR. I know someone's
Speaker 1: got him at like fourteen or whatever, so but between
Speaker 1: three of us, you are higher on him. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: like crazy drug high on Leonard Fournette. So I have
Speaker 1: him at twenty. He resigned with the Bucks, which is
Speaker 1: what I thought he was gonna do. I left him
Speaker 1: at twenty with Cordell Patterson. I didn't move him at all.
Speaker 1: Going back to Atlanta, I think is a good spot
Speaker 1: for him. There's gonna be a lot of work for
Speaker 1: him in the backfield and receiving, so I like that
Speaker 1: for him. I moved Damian Williams from the nineties to
Speaker 1: the sixties just I think he was nothing before and
Speaker 1: if he signed somewhere and was a backup, he was
Speaker 1: probably gonna be nothing. I think Atlanta gives him a
Speaker 1: little shed of light, just a teeny tiny shed of light.
Speaker 1: They draft someone, he's probably gonna go right back down
Speaker 1: to the nineties for me. So and then the other
Speaker 1: one here would be Rashott Penny I moved him up
Speaker 1: to thirty nine from forty seven. I'll be honest with y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm probably never going to draft for Shot Penny. I
Speaker 1: cannot take the injuries. He's driving me crazy. I know
Speaker 1: he had a huge end of the season. I can't
Speaker 1: do it. I think it's fool's gold. I won't touch him.
Speaker 1: John your thoughts between Fournette, Cordarol, the Atlanta situation, and
Speaker 1: Rashott Penny. Let's see Fournette, I didn't move a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I've got him in that late twenties. He's right at
Speaker 1: RB twenty eight on my list, So he didn't move
Speaker 1: a whole lot for me. He's still he's coming off
Speaker 1: one of his best seasons, but he's still he's he's
Speaker 1: hitting that running back cliff. He's in that twenty seven,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight year old range. So I didn't
Speaker 1: feel right moving him up with a new class coming in.
Speaker 1: So I didn't move the needle too much on him.
Speaker 1: Cor Daryl Patterson talking about old guys that still want
Speaker 1: to run the rock. Uh, he's down in the forty.
Speaker 1: RB forty four is where I have him right now,
Speaker 1: and I do have some of the rookies and my
Speaker 1: running backs. Okay, yeah, quarterbacks, no, right, but yeah, but
Speaker 1: I've got kind of the top handful in there, just
Speaker 1: to kind of clarify. So, uh, yeah, he's going to
Speaker 1: retain a role. I mean, actually he's he's gonna be
Speaker 1: whatever they want him to be right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he could line up under center, they're going to
Speaker 1: do that too, because they have nothing else to go with.
Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about his workload. Um, who's the
Speaker 1: other one I'm missing? Yeah, I've got him right at
Speaker 1: RB forty again, someone else got him at thirty nine.
Speaker 1: That he was He was awesome in that stretch last year. Um,
Speaker 1: that was incredible to see. It was fun to watch.
Speaker 1: But there's no way I'm trusting him going forward. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll let him be someone else's roster. Headache. And who's
Speaker 1: the last one I met? I think that's all of him.
Speaker 1: I was. I talked about Damian Williams, but I you know,
Speaker 1: I understand if he didn't move Damian Willie, He's he's
Speaker 1: down there somewhere. Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah Williams.
Speaker 1: I mean, any other situation and I don't move him.
Speaker 1: But Atlanta is like desperate, they gotta draft someone, but
Speaker 1: they have so many holes. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: they don't draft running back just because they have so
Speaker 1: many holes that on that roster fits your thoughts between Fournette,
Speaker 1: Patterson and Penny here, Oh man, Fournette and Penny are
Speaker 1: such guy, hard guys to handle like. I love Fournette's
Speaker 1: situation with Tom Brady coming back and being in full
Speaker 1: checkdown mode again not wanting to get hit as a
Speaker 1: man in his mid forties, which I will not blame
Speaker 1: him for at all. On making Fournette this immensely valuable
Speaker 1: pass catcher as he was last year. It was just
Speaker 1: a perfect storm for four Nette and it results in
Speaker 1: an RB one season, and I think we could maybe
Speaker 1: see that again this year. Yet I've got him running
Speaker 1: back thirty five because I do think, as John mentioned,
Speaker 1: we're coming close to the age Cliff Fournette is definitely
Speaker 1: playing the back nine in his career. I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say so one more year of possibly very
Speaker 1: considerable value and after that, who knows, man, who knows
Speaker 1: what's behind door number three? So Penny the same way,
Speaker 1: just the frustrations of repeated injuries and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it all came together from last year and he looked spectacular.
Speaker 1: Like if we had gotten a full season to that
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, Dynasty owners would be chasing the dragon,
Speaker 1: as they say, for you know, like they would have
Speaker 1: been doing it for years. It would have been like
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon exactly, Yes, the perfect ultimate dragon. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: people thinking seven years later that Josh Gordon was going
Speaker 1: to come back and light it on fire again. He's
Speaker 1: lighting something on fire. Sorry, sorry, that one's too easy.
Speaker 1: That was like, yeah, so tip in right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good penny, like a thirty seven too. Who
Speaker 1: knows what's gonna happen. And the Seattle offense just like
Speaker 1: is looking bleak. And speaking of bleak, the Atlanta offense,
Speaker 1: I mean Patterson. Patterson's in his thirties and playing in
Speaker 1: a garbage offense. I just can't get excited. Like he's
Speaker 1: running back fifty two. I mean, I love his story,
Speaker 1: I love his crazy skill set, but like he could
Speaker 1: have a really good season and score four touchdowns. It
Speaker 1: always just it always makes me laugh. I just remember
Speaker 1: reading an ESPN the Magazine article on Correl Patterson and
Speaker 1: a Scout described him as the most confident, dumb person
Speaker 1: I've ever met. And I just there's such a funny
Speaker 1: quote and it fits. You know, the guy didn't work
Speaker 1: for Um, didn't work for Minnesota. Not he never didn't
Speaker 1: work because of skill. We saw it. It's there. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just the um, the know how and the want
Speaker 1: to have been a little rough. So um, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you on cor Darrel. He's he's a tough He's
Speaker 1: a tough guy to pin down because the age as well, right,
Speaker 1: And I won't I won't waste listeners time on on
Speaker 1: Damian Williams bad Well behind raheem mostarts, as you know,
Speaker 1: the poor man's Mike Davis. I guess I I agree
Speaker 1: with that other guys that signed McKissick back to Washington
Speaker 1: after that Buffalo weirdness. Yeah it was so strange, but
Speaker 1: I mean, back to Washington is fine. Uh. Deonta Foreman
Speaker 1: signed with Carolina, James White back to New England, Coleman
Speaker 1: back to the Jets. I'm here, Abdullah to the Raiders,
Speaker 1: Brandon Bolden also to the Raiders, Boston Scott back in Philly,
Speaker 1: Dontrell Hilliard back to Tennessee. Trent Cannon signed there as well,
Speaker 1: Darrenson Avans Evans waved by Tennessee but signed with Chicago,
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman back to Houston, UH, Dario Goomble while he's
Speaker 1: signed by signed by them as well. Duke Johnson was
Speaker 1: the McKissick replacement, even though McKissick was never really there.
Speaker 1: Matt breed to sign with the Giants, and there's some
Speaker 1: good free agents though on the list here Gordon, Ronald Jones, McKinnon,
Speaker 1: Daryl Williams, David Johnsonville, Lindsay Booker, Sonny Michelle, Latin, Murray,
Speaker 1: Joe Bernard, Carlos Side, Marlon maccheff, Wilson Uh. There. So
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of movement left in the running
Speaker 1: back class here, John, is there one guy that stands
Speaker 1: out that you either signed or unsigned that you are
Speaker 1: moving up or want to move up? I want to
Speaker 1: move Ronald Jones up. I just I need to see
Speaker 1: him landing in an offense that will give him two
Speaker 1: hundred plus carries, like yeah, here you go, like we
Speaker 1: want to give you this. I think he's kind would
Speaker 1: be perfect. That's one of the I would love that.
Speaker 1: That's one of the places that I would dream for
Speaker 1: him to go because he will get the work and
Speaker 1: that's that's what he needs. Like, I still believe, stupidly
Speaker 1: still believe in that guy, even though Bruce Arians can't stay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he kicked Bruce Arians, dog. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the deal was Arians and running backs, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's bad, but um, he's one I
Speaker 1: want to move up. I'm hesitant to do so because
Speaker 1: we don't know where he's going to be and if
Speaker 1: he's just going to be, you know, holding Leonard Fournette's towel,
Speaker 1: you know, for the season, then I'm not interested in
Speaker 1: rostering him too much or are making a big deal
Speaker 1: about it. But he's someone I want to see the
Speaker 1: rest of them kind of kind of fall into that,
Speaker 1: fall into the cracks between some of these other guys
Speaker 1: we've talked about. There's there's not anyone there that really
Speaker 1: moves the needle for me one way or the other.
Speaker 1: They're depth pieces on big dynasty rosters and somewhere between
Speaker 1: Damian Williams and Rashad Penny. Yeah, you shuffle him up there,
Speaker 1: however you see fit and kind of kind of move fits.
Speaker 1: Does anyone here stand out to to you. For me,
Speaker 1: it's just Melvin Gordon and where he signs. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know that that's that's the big piece. But everything else,
Speaker 1: like John said, is kind of just fillers. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: hit on it, Bogan. The everyone's favorite party spoiler, Melvin Gordon,
Speaker 1: the guy who takes the stick out of the kid's
Speaker 1: hand as they're about to hit the pinata. You know,
Speaker 1: like he he ruined the party for Javante Williams last year.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna ruin someone else's coming out party
Speaker 1: this year. You know whose party is going to ruin?
Speaker 1: Is Rojo's gonna end up somewhere. And then they're gonna
Speaker 1: sign Melvin Gordon. Oh wow, I was just thinking what
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals signed Melvin Gordon, like like there is Yeah,
Speaker 1: the James kind of love just would sink like a gone.
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Speaker 1: Now Wide receivers obviously the biggest move, So I'll keep
Speaker 1: this separate from all of the other gigantic moves Davante
Speaker 1: Adams straight to the rate the raiders. I am keeping
Speaker 1: him at eight. I didn't move him. I understand people
Speaker 1: that want to move him down and may move him
Speaker 1: down in the overall, but I didn't move him among
Speaker 1: wide receivers. John with this Davante Adams trade going, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you take us a tick back in terms of quarterback,
Speaker 1: going from Aaron Rodgers down to Derek Carr. But Derek
Speaker 1: Car's still pretty damn good quarterback. So did you move
Speaker 1: him down at all? Because I don't think anyone moved
Speaker 1: him up because of this train. Now, I moved him
Speaker 1: down one spot. So basically he flip flopped with Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel for me, okay, and it's just a downgraded quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like quality of targets is a big deal, and the
Speaker 1: relationship and rapport was there, and I think he's going
Speaker 1: to see a healthy target share, but they're a little
Speaker 1: bit different targets. So I did move him down one spot.
Speaker 1: Nothing egregious. But I do think his best Fantasy days
Speaker 1: may be behind him, but not drastically. I think he's
Speaker 1: still gonna be a really high end producer. He's gonna
Speaker 1: He's gonna land in wide receiver one territory for me.
Speaker 1: So not a drastic move fits for Davanta Adams. I'm
Speaker 1: guy average twenty one point five two PPR points per
Speaker 1: game last season debo twenty one point three two. Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup twenty five point eight five. These are the only
Speaker 1: three guys that averaged over twenty points. So, UM, you
Speaker 1: know I still have him at eight just because of
Speaker 1: the age. UM, I have him just ahead of guys
Speaker 1: like Jalen Waddle and um uh In, dk Metcalfe and
Speaker 1: uh Te Higgins. Those are the guys that I have
Speaker 1: right behind him. I have him behind Hill Brown, Lambs,
Speaker 1: Samuel Cupp and Jefferson and Chains. So did you did
Speaker 1: you move Davante at all? And how sad as an
Speaker 1: actual Packer fan were you to see Davante Adams go?
Speaker 1: I'm sad for sure. Um. He and Rogers had rare
Speaker 1: chemistry and certainly one of the more exciting pitch and
Speaker 1: catch combos in recent memory and in Packer history. I
Speaker 1: dare say, so, I've got him dropped from like wide
Speaker 1: receiver six to wide receiver nine. I've got him just
Speaker 1: behind Cooper Cup. I think Cup and Adams are kind
Speaker 1: of similar cases where maybe they are where they are
Speaker 1: not because they're not going to be valuable in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, but because they are going to be a
Speaker 1: harder cell now, I think in dynasty trades because of
Speaker 1: their you know, they're at least at the halfway point
Speaker 1: of their careers probably still very valuable guys. And I
Speaker 1: think it's going to help the car and Adams played
Speaker 1: together at Fresno State, where they put up some pretty
Speaker 1: freakish numbers when they were together. I mean, Adams had
Speaker 1: like two hundred and thirty some receptions in those two years,
Speaker 1: so they're familiar with each other's games. Maybe that will
Speaker 1: smooth things a bit for Adams this year. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got him below some of the young guns Higgins, Waddle,
Speaker 1: A J. Brown, Samuel Cats like that. So that's very understandable.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this for you, at least you got
Speaker 1: this wave goodbye to Davante Adams. When Antonio Brown went crazy,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to say goodbye. You know, He's just
Speaker 1: gone for a late pick and then the Raiders ended
Speaker 1: up cutting and before he even played there. So just weird,
Speaker 1: weird story. But can I say, one quick thing box
Speaker 1: up from the Packer fan perspective, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are going to focus on the wide receivers
Speaker 1: and whoever they sign or draft, their value is going
Speaker 1: to go through the roof. If they draft Chris A.
Speaker 1: Lava or Traylon Burkes or you know, Sky Moore, whoever
Speaker 1: it is, that is the ideal landing spot. And people
Speaker 1: are gonna go gaga over whoever winds up in the
Speaker 1: Packers receiver room. But I think because it's not going
Speaker 1: to be as good a receiver situation, how could it
Speaker 1: be Postavante that people are going to overlook the fact
Speaker 1: that the Packers are going to jut they're gonna run
Speaker 1: the ball more, They're going to throw to their backs more,
Speaker 1: they're going to throw to their tight ends more. So.
Speaker 1: The real gainers here, I think are Dylan and Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon, Aaron Jones, even Robert Tounyon, who I think
Speaker 1: is just another guy, like he is the ultimate jag,
Speaker 1: just a guy, but man, he is in a great situation.
Speaker 1: And you know he's not gonna have a twenty percent
Speaker 1: touchdown rate anymore. But hands, yeah, he does have good hands.
Speaker 1: So like I could see a te one outcome for
Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty two. So so let's knock the
Speaker 1: rest of these out by threes here because there's so many.
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin re upped with the Bucks. I moved him
Speaker 1: one spot over Terry mclauren from fifteen to fourteen. Juju
Speaker 1: signed with the Chiefs. I think it's just a great
Speaker 1: spot for him. I moved him up from twenty five
Speaker 1: to nineteen. And Calvin Ridley suspended for a year, obviously
Speaker 1: the bigger dropper, biggest dropper. I had him from twenty
Speaker 1: four down to fifty one. I put him behind OBJ
Speaker 1: because we're at least gonna maybe get something at the
Speaker 1: end of the season from OBJ after tearing his knee
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. So, John, your thoughts on those
Speaker 1: three between Godwin, Juju, and Calvin Ridley. Yeah, Godwin, I
Speaker 1: didn't move a home a lot. I think he stays
Speaker 1: in a good spot. So he's writing the wide receiver
Speaker 1: seventeen for me. I like him there. He's just ahead
Speaker 1: of Terry McLaurin. And those two are the two I
Speaker 1: keep flipplopping. Juju. I actually like this one. So this
Speaker 1: may not be everybody's favorite spot. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people on Twitter are quick to talk about like
Speaker 1: the wide receiver too in Kansas City doesn't pan out.
Speaker 1: And what I think the difference there is they've had
Speaker 1: this recipe for a while, and that recipe was smaller
Speaker 1: guys that are really really fast, and we're gonna shove
Speaker 1: him on the perimeter and that's how we're gonna make
Speaker 1: this work. And the best of the bunch over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years was actually Sammy Watkins, which is
Speaker 1: almost a joke in itself these days. But you've got
Speaker 1: Juju who's a completely different skill set, who can operate
Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. I think this is
Speaker 1: a good spot for him. I liked him. I actually
Speaker 1: moved him up a little bit. He's in at wide
Speaker 1: receiver forty rangs for me, which is that that area
Speaker 1: of people I'm not sure what to do with yet.
Speaker 1: You're people like you're Michael Thomas, you're Darius Tony's, You're like,
Speaker 1: I know there's something there, but not sure yet. So
Speaker 1: he's right in that range for me. Calvin Ridley, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what to do with. Yeah, I keep moving
Speaker 1: them around, like I know the talents there, I know
Speaker 1: that if he were to come back to relevant football
Speaker 1: that he would have a healthy target share. But I
Speaker 1: mean year and a half by the time he gets back,
Speaker 1: right right, and I've got him down at a wide
Speaker 1: receiver fifty six ish, I think is where I've got him.
Speaker 1: So we've all got him in the fifties. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't rightly put him anywhere else right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fits your thought on those three between Godwin, Juju, and Ridley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ridley leaving the team in mid season and then the
Speaker 1: gambling thing and then tweeting about the gambling thing after
Speaker 1: he's done instead of just kind of shutting his mouth,
Speaker 1: and the decision may aking on Madden went way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is just not a good sign. So
Speaker 1: he's at like down, you know, down the fifties, and
Speaker 1: I'm not buying the dip Godwin. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine after Brady is gone. Um, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: like the fact that he's coming back from this injury
Speaker 1: is bad for his immediate value, but the Brady return
Speaker 1: certainly helps him. So maybe misses a few games, but
Speaker 1: like he's he's gonna be fine. The interesting guy to
Speaker 1: me is Juju. I was in an industry best ball draft.
Speaker 1: Last night, I was teeing up Juju, and I think
Speaker 1: early in the seventh round, like I had my sights
Speaker 1: set on and thought I was going to get him
Speaker 1: because I had already taken Patrick Mahomes and he went
Speaker 1: and I wound up having to settle for Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 1: So this was redraft. But tell me who would you
Speaker 1: guys rather have for twenty twenty two maybe beyond since
Speaker 1: they've pretty similar ages, Ayuk or Juju. That's it. I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, it's Juju. I'm I'm a Juju guy, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Juju. Is you gotta remember Juju still, Like
Speaker 1: I think he's fifteen months older than Ayuk. He's not
Speaker 1: that much older than Ayuk, and he has way more experience.
Speaker 1: And I think people people don't realize how bad Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger has been. Like there was the year he missed
Speaker 1: and then he was bad. So it's been subpar QB
Speaker 1: play for Juju. Obviously he was much better with Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown next to him, but now he's got Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey and one of the best quarterbacks ever
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes with him when he's on, So Um,
Speaker 1: I'm super excited for what Juju can do in this
Speaker 1: Chief's offense. And I think it's very smart of him
Speaker 1: to sign a one year deal, go put up eye
Speaker 1: popping numbers and then he's going to try to get
Speaker 1: that huge number, which is what he was trying to
Speaker 1: do in Pittsburgh. But obviously, you know, Ben being as
Speaker 1: bad as he was and Juju not staying healthy didn't
Speaker 1: do him any favors. So I've got Juju ahead of Eyak. John,
Speaker 1: what do you think of that one? Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: actually lean Ayuk there. I'm a big Eyuk guy. I
Speaker 1: love what I've seen when he's not in the doghouse,
Speaker 1: like when he's actually being targeted and part of the offense.
Speaker 1: I like his The guy is always hunting for that
Speaker 1: extra yard and I like that. So I have Eyuk
Speaker 1: ahead of him by a little bit. But but that
Speaker 1: being said, I think this is a good opportunity for Juju.
Speaker 1: I really do. I know he's the third option. That's
Speaker 1: not a bad thing because he's gonna play a different
Speaker 1: style than although other wide receiver twos that they brought
Speaker 1: in and cover in that middle of the field like that,
Speaker 1: and being able to get some separation in the short
Speaker 1: to intermediate routes. I think he's gonna do just fine.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have weekly flex value. Plus he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a few spike games in the season because
Speaker 1: of the quarterback he's paired too. I think it's a
Speaker 1: good spot for him. I really do. The next batch
Speaker 1: that we'll talk about here, we got a Marie Cooper
Speaker 1: signed with the Rams. I moved him up from forty
Speaker 1: nine to forty one. Marie Coop portrayed the Browns for
Speaker 1: a fifth and a sixth, which is just weird. I
Speaker 1: did move him down initially from twenty six to thirty three.
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't made the response move to getting
Speaker 1: to Shaun Back. I still do think they're gonna throw
Speaker 1: the ball less in Cleveland because they have the two
Speaker 1: great backs in a strong defense than they did in Dallas.
Speaker 1: So I'm probably gonna leave him right where I have
Speaker 1: him at thirty three. And then, um, Mike Williams resigned
Speaker 1: with the Chargers. I kind of thought he was going
Speaker 1: to so I didn't move him really at all. So John,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on a Rob Amari Cooper and Mike Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a Rob I didn't do a hole. I moved him
Speaker 1: up just a little bit. Um, let me see where
Speaker 1: I have him on my list here, because I do
Speaker 1: think he's gonna step right into a healthy role there.
Speaker 1: I've got him right in the wide receiver thirty seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're in the same ring. Yeah, so I've got
Speaker 1: him right there. Um, I think he's gonna be fine there. Um,
Speaker 1: last year makes it tough to move fast. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's still a sour taste about how last year went.
Speaker 1: But I think he'll be fine there with probably the
Speaker 1: best quarterback he's played with us so far. So that's good,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. I've got him. I'm a little more bullish
Speaker 1: on him. I think he's gonna get the target share
Speaker 1: that he's been lacking for a long time. So I've
Speaker 1: got him up at thirty not a bad spot for him.
Speaker 1: And that is kind of his is waffling up and
Speaker 1: down a little bit as we don't know that, like
Speaker 1: how the Watson thing is going to play out, and
Speaker 1: then Mike Williams, let's see where it put him. I
Speaker 1: don't I didn't move him. Yeah, I loved him right
Speaker 1: where it was because I expected I was hoping. I
Speaker 1: didn't say expecting. I'm a Chargers fan, so I didn't
Speaker 1: expect them to do the smart thing. But they did
Speaker 1: this time, which is pretty awesome. But I was hoping
Speaker 1: for it. So yeah, I've got him right where I
Speaker 1: had him before, and I think he's going to retain
Speaker 1: that role and can only get better with Herbert as
Speaker 1: he develops. So he's thirty one from me, So i've
Speaker 1: them in the thirties as well. Yeah, Fitz, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you think between Robinson, Coop, and Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got Williams thirty three, and that's with a small
Speaker 1: handful of the top rookies in this class ahead of him. Cooper,
Speaker 1: I really didn't change him that much, like some people
Speaker 1: seem to think it was a downgrade, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Prescott to Watson seems like kind of a lateral move,
Speaker 1: and now he's going to have less target competition. I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be more of a pure alpha
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. It's true the Browns might not pass quite
Speaker 1: as much as the Cowboys. But so I've I've got
Speaker 1: Cooper like wide receiver thirty No, that's fair. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: a rob forty three, getting a little older, not going
Speaker 1: to be an alpha anymore. Yes, he is playing with
Speaker 1: a guy who's better than Blake Bortles or Mitchell Trubisky,
Speaker 1: but no Blake Bortles slander. Cooper Cup is a board there.
Speaker 1: Maybe they still sign resign OBJ, who knows. So you know,
Speaker 1: forty three I think is fair. And yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a bump from where I had him before he landed
Speaker 1: in that situation, which I think was a good outcome
Speaker 1: for him. And there's so many more other wide receiver moves,
Speaker 1: So anybody you guys want to talk about here. Robert
Speaker 1: Woods traded the Titans for a six round pick. DJ
Speaker 1: Shark signed a one of your deal with the Lions.
Speaker 1: Christian Kirkins Jones both got way too much money from
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Or get Cedric Wilson to the Dolphins, Gallop
Speaker 1: re signed and James Washington also signed with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jameson Crowder with the Bills, Russell Gage to the Bucks,
Speaker 1: Raby McLeod to the Niners. The Bear signed you know,
Speaker 1: Byron Pringle and Equanami and Saint Brown apparently for their
Speaker 1: special teams like Kwan Treadwell, Some for some reason went
Speaker 1: back to the Jags after they signed Kirk and Zay
Speaker 1: Jones and have Marvin Jones and still have Laviska on
Speaker 1: that roster. Pascal went to the Eagles, Higgins to the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and then we still have some big free agents ob
Speaker 1: J Jarvis, Landry, will Fuller, Cole Beasley, Ty Hilton, A. J. Green,
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, and Sammy Watkins all free agents. So, John,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on any of the rest of those guys.
Speaker 1: I think the Pascal one is the one that strikes
Speaker 1: me as being kind of interesting because at first my
Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction was yeah, and but the more I
Speaker 1: thought about it, like what we've seen out of Jalen
Speaker 1: Raager over the last couple of years, I think he's
Speaker 1: got a shot to be an impact player there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he. I think he's going to be a
Speaker 1: solid wide receiver for Jalen Hurtz. So I think that's
Speaker 1: an interesting move. Um, what are the Jags doing any
Speaker 1: anybody that spending Yeah, anybody that operates that position, that
Speaker 1: part of the field, that's who we're signing. Um. I
Speaker 1: know Za Jones a little bit different, but they signed
Speaker 1: a tight end to um. Yeah, they signed Evan Ingram.
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Yeah, yeah, So again you've got a guy
Speaker 1: that runs short to intermediate routes. You've got Labisco Chennault
Speaker 1: bringing competition. I don't understand it. Um Christian Kirk. They
Speaker 1: paid him so much money, you have to think that
Speaker 1: he's going to be part of the game plan. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm that invested with what they
Speaker 1: kind of spent on him. Other than that, a lot
Speaker 1: of those moves were not overly exciting. I guess didn't
Speaker 1: really result in bumping people up too much. Gallop is
Speaker 1: good where he's at, doesn't really move the needle for
Speaker 1: me too many ways there, So yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: rest of him are kind of just hovering around where
Speaker 1: they were before. And fits your thoughts on any of
Speaker 1: the rest of these wide receivers here, Yeah, play taps
Speaker 1: for the fantasy Valley of Robert Woods and DJ Shark.
Speaker 1: I think Charks Shark's the guy I really liked, but
Speaker 1: now like his youth is going to be wasted. I
Speaker 1: think while Detroit figures it out at the quarterback position
Speaker 1: and he's got like a lot of guys ahead of
Speaker 1: him in the target packing order with swift Hopkinson, Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: and Woods. Like Woods had this low end wide receiver
Speaker 1: one value with the Rams, but that was kind of
Speaker 1: before the Cup breakout happened. And now he goes to
Speaker 1: a run heavy team with a worst quarterback, and he's
Speaker 1: not a young guy anymore. So I think he's like,
Speaker 1: is he thirty? Now he's thirty, isn't he? I think
Speaker 1: this is going to be his age thirty season. He's
Speaker 1: thirty season. I'm totally sure about that. But one guy,
Speaker 1: uh of the you know host of other guys you
Speaker 1: mentioned who jumped like thirty spots for me, although that
Speaker 1: still only put him like in the seventies I think,
Speaker 1: was James Washington with the Cowboys. Suddenly becomes kind of
Speaker 1: interesting there. We'll see how that goes. I mean, I
Speaker 1: do like fly routes and curl routes. Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, I don't know if there's any
Speaker 1: star power there, but maybe in that offense he could
Speaker 1: be at least, you know, an interesting guy. I mean, anyway,
Speaker 1: you add Dak with anyone and it's it's positive for sure,
Speaker 1: especially going from Ben to Dak. The tight ends. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna run through him real quick. And if anyone
Speaker 1: stands out, because it's not a ton of tight end
Speaker 1: movement here. Uh, Mike is sicky and Dalton Schultz signed
Speaker 1: the franchise tags. I didn't movie the one of them.
Speaker 1: Cej Uzama goes to the Jets, which is a bummer.
Speaker 1: Evan Ingraham signed with the Jags, which is just weird.
Speaker 1: Hooper went to the Titans, which could be nice. Noah
Speaker 1: Fant traded to Seattle in the Wilson deal. Gerald Everett
Speaker 1: signed with the Chargers, Hayden Hurst with the Bengals, which
Speaker 1: could be nice for him, Tonya with the Packers, Ricky Seels,
Speaker 1: Jones with the Giants, OJ Howard with the Bills, and
Speaker 1: Holster with the Raiders. And there's a couple free agents Ebron,
Speaker 1: Rudolph Jarwin, James Cook also free agents here. But John,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on any of these tight ends as a
Speaker 1: Chargers fan, I think the Everett one is gonna fly
Speaker 1: under the radar. I think he's gonna have like some
Speaker 1: touchdown appeal there. He's always kind of played around or
Speaker 1: behind somebody. He did pretty well last season. I think
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can do everything pretty good while
Speaker 1: not necessarily being excellent. In anything, So he's kind of
Speaker 1: a guy I'm willing to take a stab at late
Speaker 1: or package in a trade aid or something like that.
Speaker 1: I like the Hayden Hurst move. I think that's going
Speaker 1: to give him an opportunity to grow a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's still young enough that there's still some developmental things
Speaker 1: that can improve. But I think he's someone I'm definitely
Speaker 1: watching someone I'll move up probably a little bit. I
Speaker 1: haven't adjusted my tight ends lately, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to say where I'm going to put him yet, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna move up a little bit for me. I
Speaker 1: think he's in a good spot. So he's one of
Speaker 1: the ones i'd mentioned. Fits your thoughts on any of
Speaker 1: these tight end moves. Yeah, in a vacuum, I think cj.
Speaker 1: Usama is better than Hayden Hurst. But with the changing situations,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Hurst Dynasty, no question. And the one
Speaker 1: that really sticks out to me is Dalton Schultz because
Speaker 1: if he would have gone somewhere else, I think his
Speaker 1: value would have absolutely cratered. In Dynasty instead, not only
Speaker 1: does he come back to the Cowboys, but he comes
Speaker 1: back to a Cowboys team that no longer has a
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper. Yeah, so like it's true, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be hard for him to get the same sort of
Speaker 1: target load he had last year. I think. So that
Speaker 1: really is going to Preservelt's value and keep him in
Speaker 1: that tight end one range. I'm gonna take credit for
Speaker 1: Fits moving up Dalton Schultz in his range after we
Speaker 1: argued about that. I can see it. I'll say uncle,
Speaker 1: I'll say uncle, I'll just say credit for that, of course.
Speaker 1: But guys, I mean a lot of movement. And we
Speaker 1: still have a lot of movement, and guess what, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be way more adjustments after the NFL Draft as well.
Speaker 1: So the football world never dies. It is a twenty
Speaker 1: four seven, three sixty five landscape that we're dealing with here,
Speaker 1: and there has been a lot of fluctuation just from
Speaker 1: guys moving team. So it's a lot different in baseball
Speaker 1: in that sense to where you know, you may move
Speaker 1: guys in baseball up down a little bit because of
Speaker 1: the lineups and the scenarios and the playing time. But football,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a good quarterback behind a
Speaker 1: crappy line with crappy wide receivers, he's not a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know. So it's just so much context is weighed
Speaker 1: in on these guys, and luckily we got to go
Speaker 1: through a big chunk of him here with John. John,
Speaker 1: Thank you, and please let everyone know where they can
Speaker 1: find all your great work and what you have coming up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can follow me on Twitter at John Underscore Hesterman,
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