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Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about bust. I will say this,
Speaker 1: I don't really care for the term busts because I
Speaker 1: think bust implies you're completely eliminating this guy from your list.
Speaker 1: I don't ever really eliminate anyone from my list completely,
Speaker 1: but I will bury them sometimes where I know I'm
Speaker 1: going to have zero shares of a player, so bus
Speaker 1: just has a negative connotation to it, I think more
Speaker 1: than people give it credit for. What do you think
Speaker 1: do you think there is such thing as uh sleepers
Speaker 1: or bust anymore? Or we just kind of know that
Speaker 1: these are guys we probably won't be rostering this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe call it our trepidation list bogs. And I know
Speaker 1: like some like some people would even have the aforementioned
Speaker 1: Traylon Burks on it, but I wouldn't. I would like
Speaker 1: to have that, you know, autograph merch from Traylon because
Speaker 1: you know, I remember last year how everyone got down
Speaker 1: on Jamar Chase because he was oh yeah right, he
Speaker 1: had the yips. He had the yips, the equivalent of
Speaker 1: a golfer having the yips. And why do I get
Speaker 1: the feeling that this year Traylon Burks is asthma is
Speaker 1: going to be like the twenty twenty two version of
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase's drops. Yeah, like you know, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: he couldn't do the drills in a TA whatever. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it, man. Yeah, you know, people
Speaker 1: ask me if I'm worried about Treylon Burks and his asthma.
Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, look, you think they don't
Speaker 1: have pollen in allergens in Arkansas where he played l right, Like,
Speaker 1: it's a different time a year than when he normally plays,
Speaker 1: so it's probably a little bit worse for him. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe it is going to be worse in Tennessee. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I can tell you right now that
Speaker 1: asthma is not going to stop me from drafting Treylon Burks.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of guys in the league that
Speaker 1: have played with asthma that don't have issues. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that it gets bad for guys and it drums them out.
Speaker 1: I know that. You know, guys with sickle cell anemia
Speaker 1: can't play in Denver because of the elevation. Right. Ryan
Speaker 1: Clark was a guy for Pittsburgh that had to have
Speaker 1: his spleen removed after playing in Denver one time. So
Speaker 1: anytime the Steelers went to play in Denver, Ryan Clark
Speaker 1: got a seat on that bench. He wasn't gonna play
Speaker 1: because it could kill him. It almost did one time.
Speaker 1: So there are things that bother players, but come on
Speaker 1: asthma in July in June, I do not care about
Speaker 1: that for the regular See, Traylon Burkes has been playing
Speaker 1: with asthma his whole life, and he's been fine, So
Speaker 1: I don't care about his asthma acting up for Mini camp.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be okay, Like, would you like
Speaker 1: to see him out there getting reps with the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback and stuff? Of course, you know, so if you
Speaker 1: want to say that sets him back because he had that, okay,
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to avoid him on my draft
Speaker 1: day because of asthma, No, sir, I'm absolutely with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have to book a mid South allergen specialist
Speaker 1: next show to do a segment talking about the pollen
Speaker 1: differences in Nashville and Fayetteville. That would be that would
Speaker 1: be a little even more granular than I'm willing to
Speaker 1: go fee I think so. Um, but it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: But let's let's start out with some busts here. Who
Speaker 1: do you who's first on the fits list of guys
Speaker 1: that are a bust and you are probably not going
Speaker 1: to be taking oh Man talk about low hanging fruit bogs.
Speaker 1: I'm going to start with Leonard Fournette, who you know,
Speaker 1: after looking u lately overweight and now we read that
Speaker 1: maybe he was close to two sixty suboptimal. I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to say for a running back, you know,
Speaker 1: unless you're Craig Ironhead, Hayward or Jerome Jerome Battis. So
Speaker 1: I mean, like he just he had the perfect storm
Speaker 1: last year. It's just this, He's playing with a forty
Speaker 1: five year old quarterback who doesn't want to get hit
Speaker 1: and it's very eager to dump off the ball, and
Speaker 1: Rojoe train Wreck as a pass blocker and pass catcher.
Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernard really good as a pass catcher and pass blocker,
Speaker 1: but was hurt, so that kind of left Fournet as
Speaker 1: the only game in town. They didn't trust Keyshaw Vaughn
Speaker 1: and so four Net gets all these dump off passes
Speaker 1: and becomes immensely valuable in PPR leagues, really all leagues,
Speaker 1: but especially PPR. And this year, while Geo is healthy,
Speaker 1: and they draft for shod White, who we have talked
Speaker 1: about at length on this show, who can catch and
Speaker 1: can pass block, like that's kind of his thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna lean on Fournette as heavily as
Speaker 1: they did last year. And it's possible like he gets
Speaker 1: challenged by one of these guys for snaps and touches.
Speaker 1: It's funny fits because I've been the Leonard Fournette apologist
Speaker 1: forever and I'm I believe lower than ECR on him
Speaker 1: going into this season, and I still like him. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I actually love this report that he's
Speaker 1: overweight and that coaches are pissed because I know it's
Speaker 1: going to drop his value and guys coming into camp overweight.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, look, it's it's easy news. Like
Speaker 1: you said, it's suboptimal. It's not a good thing to
Speaker 1: come in and look fat and sloppy and have that
Speaker 1: be your you know, the coaches first look at you
Speaker 1: going into this season and you could get behind the
Speaker 1: eight ball. But guys come into camp upweight because they
Speaker 1: know they're gonna cut a ton of weight in camp.
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna have to cut way more than a
Speaker 1: traditional guy. He's gonna have to cut like thirty pounds
Speaker 1: before the season starts here to be where he was
Speaker 1: playing at last season. Assumingly, you know where he was
Speaker 1: playing at last season. Maybe he was up a little
Speaker 1: bit more last year too. But here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: don't trust Geo Bernard at all. I think he's washed,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't for me. He doesn't do anything to
Speaker 1: the Leonard Fournette replacement. The other thing is I like
Speaker 1: Rashad White. I think he's got a bright future in
Speaker 1: the NFL, But it's Tom Brady gonna want that rookie
Speaker 1: out there pass blocking for him, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: In running routes. Rashad White is gonna have to earn
Speaker 1: the trust quickly to push Fournette. It's not out of
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. It's definitely there. And if Fournette
Speaker 1: can't get healthy in time, it's just another brick against him.
Speaker 1: So but I actually like Leonard Fournette having a little
Speaker 1: bit of bad news right now because I know it's
Speaker 1: going to drop him in some drafts and make him
Speaker 1: more available for me. Because in all I've done six
Speaker 1: seven mocks I haven't had one share of Fournetts so far.
Speaker 1: I've done a couple of drafts. I don't have any
Speaker 1: Fournett shares, and I have been the Fournett guy for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and last year made me
Speaker 1: look like a genius. But this year it could be
Speaker 1: the perfect store of making me look like an idiot
Speaker 1: if I take him too quick. That extra weight can
Speaker 1: get you hurt too. That's the big thing. If you
Speaker 1: don't drop the weight and you get hit. You know,
Speaker 1: David Boston is the perfect example of when you have
Speaker 1: too much weight on top and you have chicken legs,
Speaker 1: you're just never gonna last in the NFL. So hopefully
Speaker 1: Fournette gets that fire lit under him with everyone being
Speaker 1: angry at him here. So Bogs, I will say so
Speaker 1: since we're you know, and I know and Redraft, his
Speaker 1: prisis stayed like it hasn't really dropped yet. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: the weight thing. And make no mistake, I'm a Packers fan, Bogs.
Speaker 1: I cheered for Eddie Lacy and I didn't worry about
Speaker 1: the extra weight with him, So not too worried about
Speaker 1: that with Fournette. I'm more worried about White. Like pass
Speaker 1: splocking was kind of his thing at Arizona State, or
Speaker 1: at least you know the scouting reports I've read that
Speaker 1: he excels in that area. But like, what do you
Speaker 1: think Fournett's window is in dynasty? Like how many more
Speaker 1: productive seasons do you think? Yet? One or two? Not
Speaker 1: a ton, because we know these guys break down. He
Speaker 1: had the huge workload last year, he's gonna have, you know,
Speaker 1: a decent workload. I think again this year. But really
Speaker 1: I think the bust year for Fournett comes the first
Speaker 1: year that Brady is gone. And that could have been
Speaker 1: this year, it could be next year. But I think
Speaker 1: they're going to try to overwork him when that happens,
Speaker 1: and it's just going to be too easy because if
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask is your answer at QB, you know, and
Speaker 1: I like Trask probably more than most people. He's gotten
Speaker 1: better every year that he's been around, he improves. So
Speaker 1: having him behind Brady I think is huge for his career.
Speaker 1: He could come out and be great. But even if
Speaker 1: he is good to start, I think your process as
Speaker 1: a coach is, let's do the run game first. Let
Speaker 1: everything works through the run that You're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of that in Seattle this year with Geno Smith
Speaker 1: or Drew lock Back there, right, a team that already
Speaker 1: runs more, you're gonna more than anyone the Seahawks. You're
Speaker 1: gonna see that with Tampa Bay two. Once that happens,
Speaker 1: and because you don't have trust in that QB, so
Speaker 1: I think that's when he breaks down. So I think
Speaker 1: this is really kind of the last year. If he's
Speaker 1: peaking and your team isn't, and you can trade him
Speaker 1: off and get decent value for him, That's probably what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. But you know, we keep saying Brady could
Speaker 1: retire at any point here. I think he still likes Fournette.
Speaker 1: This year is going to go a long way for
Speaker 1: his future, though, But I'm with you. Like his ECR
Speaker 1: is RB eleven. I have Fournette. I might have him
Speaker 1: at eleven. Actually I have him at ten in PPR,
Speaker 1: so I guess I have him ahead. I might dip
Speaker 1: him below draft dynasty. That's a redraft and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at these redraft ranks. And the reason I did ECR
Speaker 1: for redraft is because we're talking about bust for this year,
Speaker 1: so you know, the number more implies this season versus dynasty.
Speaker 1: But this is the time, like right now is if
Speaker 1: you believe fits and you think that Fournette is gonna
Speaker 1: bust and you really don't like this news, the time
Speaker 1: to trade him is now. It probably was actually a
Speaker 1: week ago now that we got this news that he's
Speaker 1: coming in at two sixty and all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: if he starts the year fast and your team, if
Speaker 1: you're rostering him and your team isn't good. I think
Speaker 1: now's the time to trade him. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: the point. Like when we're looking for busts for this year,
Speaker 1: it's about getting out from underneath their value. So my
Speaker 1: first one here, Fatia, I'm gonna go to the QBS
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go to Kyler Murray, who I have
Speaker 1: been an apologist for since he came into the NFL.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't care about guys being mall, being
Speaker 1: short really and throwing like the guy was incredible at Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: and you know, it hurts my heart to give Oklahoma
Speaker 1: any credit, but the guy was incredible. He goes to Arizona.
Speaker 1: He ends up with Cliff Kingsbury as his head coach
Speaker 1: who runs air Raid. You know, guy got fired from
Speaker 1: Texas Tech somehow became the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how that works, but he's there
Speaker 1: and they're a pass first system and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But there are things that I don't like. And he
Speaker 1: is ZCRS. QB five's ADP is QB five. I have
Speaker 1: him at eleven and I was lowest of all rankers
Speaker 1: on ECR. I think the lowest before I dropped him
Speaker 1: in at eleven was ten for his rank, So I
Speaker 1: am the lowest ranker on Murray for this season. And
Speaker 1: there's just so many little things that add up for
Speaker 1: mean disliking Kylie Murray. Excuse me. The weirdness about the
Speaker 1: contract and the social media nonsense. It was like red
Speaker 1: flag number one, Like you know that they had this
Speaker 1: old dance of the offseason of Kayler Murray unfollowed the
Speaker 1: Cardinals on Instagram and unfollowed all of his team, which
Speaker 1: is news. I mean, I hate that it's news. As
Speaker 1: an old man yelling at clouds, I don't like that
Speaker 1: that's news, but it is. It's news. Hopkins suspended six
Speaker 1: games to start the year. Not good. Christian Kirk is
Speaker 1: gone yesday. Brian Marcus Brown, who I like, and I
Speaker 1: like him getting out of Baltimore and going to a
Speaker 1: more vertical passing system in Arizona. But you know, Marcus
Speaker 1: Brown is not going to place Hopkins and Kirk's production
Speaker 1: in his offense from last year. And really, the big
Speaker 1: thing that I don't like about Kyler Murray moving forward
Speaker 1: is the injury stuff, because it's really his size is
Speaker 1: getting him hurt. He had the ankle injury last year.
Speaker 1: He missed three games in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: Actually came back and performed pretty well. But if you
Speaker 1: see him keep taking these shots, keep getting hurt, he's
Speaker 1: got or excuse me, keep getting shots, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: hurt again. And he's a smaller dude. So I think
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are gonna be less willing to let him run,
Speaker 1: which is where a lot of his value comes from,
Speaker 1: and it just hurts his overall game. So that plus
Speaker 1: the fact that the offensive line is still rough. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't trust PFF ratings
Speaker 1: and everything, but if you look at his offensive line,
Speaker 1: every single spot from left tackle to right tackle, it
Speaker 1: graded lower than the fifty percent marker. So if there's
Speaker 1: eighty tackles, both tackles ranked forty one or worse. You
Speaker 1: know there's I think Rodney Hudson, who just announced he's
Speaker 1: coming back, which is a nice boost for this line
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, but he ranked thirty one out of
Speaker 1: thirty nine qualified centers last season, so the line is bad.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be less willing to run him starting
Speaker 1: this season because of the injury stuff that he's had.
Speaker 1: There's little pieces missing in the offense, and there's some
Speaker 1: disconnect between himself and ownership. So it all, all these
Speaker 1: little pieces tea leaves add up to me not liking
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray for this year. What do you think about
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as a potential bust fits? Yeah, bugs, we
Speaker 1: agree on so much, and I like that we're maybe
Speaker 1: going to argue a little bit on this podcast, so
Speaker 1: we can argue about Kyler. I won't argue with you
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. And it's funny how the Cardinals
Speaker 1: are one of those teams that can just never get
Speaker 1: their old line sorted. I don't think they've had a
Speaker 1: good offensive line since. Like Dan Dierdorf and Conrad Doblin
Speaker 1: we're playing look them up kids. Yeah, Dan Dierdorf has
Speaker 1: it's so old he retired from being an announcer on
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, so exactly. So, like I've had him
Speaker 1: in what I consider to be my primary league, and
Speaker 1: this was a two year old league. Boggs and he
Speaker 1: when he is rights, Kyler is just a powerhouse as
Speaker 1: far as scoring points. I mean, a dude who let
Speaker 1: the league. I think it big time throws another PFF
Speaker 1: stat last year. But to get those those throws, you
Speaker 1: hold on the ball a lot, which means it's true shot,
Speaker 1: and he is. I'm not gonna contend that he's undersized.
Speaker 1: He's definitely that. But he so for one thing, like
Speaker 1: I think last year he had a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 1: I think that he got in the Week eight game
Speaker 1: against the package who went down to Arizona and bes
Speaker 1: he missed those and then he didn't finish strongly at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinals just went into the tank at
Speaker 1: the halfway point of the season after getting off to
Speaker 1: that great start and having the number one seed at
Speaker 1: the halfway point. I think, um so, I blame some
Speaker 1: of that on injuries. But even with that, he averaged
Speaker 1: seven point nine yards per tent last year after in
Speaker 1: his first two years, I think we're six point nine
Speaker 1: and seven point one progress there. The rushing number slowed
Speaker 1: down in large part because he missed time and was,
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with that ankle after he came back,
Speaker 1: but I mean in twenty twenty he had eight hundred
Speaker 1: and nineteen rushing yards and eleven TV runs. I mean,
Speaker 1: like he and Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts, are and
Speaker 1: maybe Trey Lance. Those are the dudes at Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I guess I can't forget him, didn't I say, Lamar Away? Sure, Yeah, Lamar,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Trey Lance, Kyler Murray, those are
Speaker 1: the guys who can give you those lights out rushing
Speaker 1: numbers and like, but I think out of those guys, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Kyler's a better passer than Lamar.
Speaker 1: I definitely think he's a better passer than Hurts, And
Speaker 1: you know, for now, I think we have to consider
Speaker 1: him a better passer than Lance. So like, I think
Speaker 1: there is just you know, this smash upside with him
Speaker 1: still and yeah, Hopkins is suspended, but when he gets back,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have Hopkins, Marquise Brown, Zacher, It's Rondel Moore.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be stacked. I mean, I hope that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ertz was so good for them down the stretch.
Speaker 1: By the way, It's incredible how good he was. Trey
Speaker 1: McBride waiting in the wings. If I really didn't one,
Speaker 1: I like, I really didn't want to like arts because
Speaker 1: I just they don't use a tight end that much
Speaker 1: in this offense, you know, but they just play him
Speaker 1: at wide receiver and he's fine. So now they've got
Speaker 1: two great tight ends with me. Yeah, McBride is also good.
Speaker 1: So like there's potential here, but it's the injuries. And
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff knows. You know, I love
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, but you can't go to cold you know,
Speaker 1: you have to have Kyler back there. So I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be less willing to rush him. So we'll see. Uh. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to be wrong wrong, and that's okay. I'm
Speaker 1: just not I'm not drafting him where he's going. He's
Speaker 1: going in the top five. I won't take him there.
Speaker 1: My fifth QB is Dak. Dak has had some injury
Speaker 1: issues too. I know people don't like him, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But I trust Dak more throwing the ball than I
Speaker 1: do Kyler. So, uh that's why I have him. Who's
Speaker 1: your second bus? Who do you have four? Number two here? FITZI, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've got James Cook. I think we might argue
Speaker 1: about this too, Bogs, and it's uh so not you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it is for this year, and it might
Speaker 1: be for the early part of his career because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people see him going to Buffalo
Speaker 1: as like this great landing spot. But I wonder about that,
Speaker 1: like does Josh Allen really benefit running backs or does
Speaker 1: he actually hurt them? Because in Allen's four seasons as
Speaker 1: the Bills quarterback, no Bills running back has run for
Speaker 1: more than eight hundred and seventy yards. No Bills running
Speaker 1: back has had more than two hundred and sixty nine
Speaker 1: receiving yards. The Bills have ranked in NFL percentage of
Speaker 1: team targets to running backs nineteenth, twenty six, twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: and twenty ninth. I mean, like a mobile quarterback, it's
Speaker 1: just easier for him to take off than check down.
Speaker 1: And Allen has had thirty one touchdown runs and Bills
Speaker 1: running backs collectively have had twenty eights. He has had
Speaker 1: three more touchdown runs than all Bills running backs by
Speaker 1: three over his four years. So like, not a lot there.
Speaker 1: And I know people are going to say, well, the
Speaker 1: Bills running backs have sucked, and I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a big part of it. Yeah it is, Like I
Speaker 1: get it, but like he doesn't dump off, Like I
Speaker 1: don't think that the percentage of targets the field he
Speaker 1: does and if and if it's not there, he's just
Speaker 1: gonna boogie. And uh so, I mean that's a big thing.
Speaker 1: And you're bringing in a pass catching running back and like,
Speaker 1: is he going to really kick Devin's Singletary to the
Speaker 1: curb who has been effective? I know they don't want
Speaker 1: Singletary to like handle everything by himself, but like James
Speaker 1: Cook was a platoon back at Georgia, Like, do we
Speaker 1: really think he's going to be like a heavy duty
Speaker 1: back and he's a smaller dude. So if he is
Speaker 1: mostly a pass catching back with like a little bit
Speaker 1: of change of pace, work, boy, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: if a pass catching back is going to cut it
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Here's the here's my thing with Cook
Speaker 1: and why I like Cook for this year. And by
Speaker 1: the way, you have him ranked ahead of ECRU and ADP.
Speaker 1: I believe if thirty two is your ranking for PPR,
Speaker 1: you probably need to move him down if you don't
Speaker 1: like him, just to be clear there. But my thing
Speaker 1: with Cook is I think there's opportunity for him. I
Speaker 1: think he's a better running back as a whole than
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary Now if you took some Mere White and
Speaker 1: James Cook and put them both in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the Georgia backfield, put them both in Buffalo, I'd say,
Speaker 1: all right, well it's easy. It's a mere White ship
Speaker 1: between the tackles. Guy, James Cook is your past catching back.
Speaker 1: It hurts both their value. I think Cook is better
Speaker 1: overall than Singletary is right now. I think he's more explosive.
Speaker 1: He can obviously catch the ball out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: and you can run him out of the slot. Not
Speaker 1: that you need to in Buffalo because there's so many
Speaker 1: good wide receivers in Buffalo, but you can. So I
Speaker 1: think that skill, James Cook's skill beats out Singletary. By
Speaker 1: the end of the season, he's gonna I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be an incredibly annoying player to own this year
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be like the first couple of weeks
Speaker 1: he's not he's five seven touches something like that, and
Speaker 1: then he's really gonna have to earn this role to
Speaker 1: beat out Singletary. So I'm higher on Cook than most people,
Speaker 1: but he's a gamble. Like the the realm of possible
Speaker 1: outcomes is enormous for Cook, He could easily be a
Speaker 1: guy that gets five touches a game and as a
Speaker 1: special teamer. You know, we could get some dree Archer
Speaker 1: going here for Steelers fans that remember dree Archer. You know,
Speaker 1: just you think you want this, but then you have
Speaker 1: no idea how to use it. You know, in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, pass catching backs like that. That could
Speaker 1: be something. But I think you draft a guy like
Speaker 1: James Cook because you say, this is an element of
Speaker 1: the offense that we don't have and we're gonna start
Speaker 1: to add it. Now. That could be wrong, could be
Speaker 1: flawed logic, But I just think there's two things there.
Speaker 1: Number one is a good pass catcher out of the the backfield,
Speaker 1: which they haven't had. And number two, I think he's
Speaker 1: already better than Singletary. So I didn't like Singletary that
Speaker 1: much coming out FAU. He doesn't have good long speed,
Speaker 1: but he looked great at the end of the year
Speaker 1: and he earned that role. So Cook is going to
Speaker 1: have to take it away from him in season. He's
Speaker 1: not going to go into the season as the starter.
Speaker 1: So I see where you're coming from. I think I'm
Speaker 1: still taking a risk. If I have solid backs, I
Speaker 1: would risk and take a flyer on Cook, knowing that
Speaker 1: it may take a little bit for him to earn
Speaker 1: this role. So but he could be a bust. He's
Speaker 1: definitely that is in the realm of possible outcomes for
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Speaker 1: my second bus here, Fitzy, I'm gonna go to the
Speaker 1: Chiefs backfield and I'm gonna say c eh. Now, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not that far off of ADP for c H
Speaker 1: four Redraft twenty seven is his ECR. His ADP also
Speaker 1: is twenty seven. I have him at thirty one. I
Speaker 1: have concerns about Ronald Jones in this backfield, and not
Speaker 1: just Ronald Jones, but also Jerick McKinnon. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we know Andy Reid has been a guy
Speaker 1: that is mixed running back forever. You know, there are
Speaker 1: guys that have held value in an Andy Reid offense.
Speaker 1: Brian Westbrook being you know, probably are our most favorite
Speaker 1: one in terms of fantasy production, the best one in
Speaker 1: terms of fantasy production from this offense. We thought Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards was gonna work. He just hasn't. In twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Last year, in overall points, he was forty fourth among
Speaker 1: running backs one hundred nineteen point six. He missed a
Speaker 1: couple of games. So in terms of points per game
Speaker 1: in a PPR league, he was twenty ninth at eleven
Speaker 1: point nine six. Twenty twenty is a little better. He's
Speaker 1: twenty second overall with one hundred and seventy six points
Speaker 1: and twenty third and points per game, making him a
Speaker 1: low end RB two. But this is you know, look,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we hear right now is
Speaker 1: going to be you know, like we just heard recently
Speaker 1: that Rashaud Penny is gonna get twenty touches a game, right,
Speaker 1: But that's speculation by a beat writer. That's not Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll saying that. And even sometimes when coaches say things,
Speaker 1: he had to take him with the grain and salt.
Speaker 1: Particularly Pete Carroll. I call him PAULI Anna Pete because
Speaker 1: every player is the best player that I've ever had.
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have a great season. We're counting
Speaker 1: on them. Like all the stuff in the media that
Speaker 1: he says, Pete Carroll says sounds like that. But Andy
Speaker 1: Reid is a little bit less of a bser. And
Speaker 1: this is what he said after they signed Ronald Jones.
Speaker 1: He said he's a tough runner with good vision. I'll
Speaker 1: take that and he needs that opportunity to feel like
Speaker 1: he's a major part of this thing. We'll give him that.
Speaker 1: I've got Clyde in there too, so it'll just help
Speaker 1: take some pressure off and they'll work together and be
Speaker 1: a pretty good combo. That doesn't sound like Clyde Edwards
Speaker 1: Hilaire is one and Ronald Jones is two, and then
Speaker 1: here comes McKinnon for the passing work. Also, you know
Speaker 1: this we just talked about. Ronald Jones is garbage at
Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback at pass blocking, so is Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
Speaker 1: Both these guys are bad at it. So Jerick McKinnon
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna take that role because he was very,
Speaker 1: very high in terms of pass blocking grade and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. And pff, he runs better routes than
Speaker 1: both these guys. He has sure hands than both these guys.
Speaker 1: So it looks like it's going to be a big
Speaker 1: ugly mix to me. And with Ronald Jones going, you know,
Speaker 1: his ADPs around forty, I feel like I'd rather take
Speaker 1: the risk on the upside of Ronald Jones being the
Speaker 1: new guy and potentially breaking out in this system than
Speaker 1: see what they've had for the last couple of years
Speaker 1: in Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I was a Clyde La fan
Speaker 1: of him coming out of LSU. I like him in
Speaker 1: this offense. It just hasn't worked fits. What do you
Speaker 1: think of Cech moving forward here? Well, Bus, we're not
Speaker 1: going to argue here. I'm not gonna be bidding on
Speaker 1: Cech and my reality sports online auctions. Yeah, So, I
Speaker 1: mean it's I had a little bit of hope for
Speaker 1: Cech still when they had not resigned Jack McKinney yet,
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs actually do target run backs homes, targets
Speaker 1: running backs at a very high rate, and to this
Speaker 1: point in his career, Ceh has not really commanded targets,
Speaker 1: like even though he was thought to be this you know,
Speaker 1: like that was the appeal that he was going to
Speaker 1: be this great cat pass catching back after being used. So,
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a kind of Swiss army knife
Speaker 1: at LSU and it just hasn't happened. Man, He's got
Speaker 1: let's see, seventy seven targets in twenty three career games,
Speaker 1: so much just over three targets a game, two point
Speaker 1: four catches a game. I mean, like he's not a
Speaker 1: complete zero in the passing game. But man, it's such
Speaker 1: a far cry from what we were expecting out of
Speaker 1: this guy. Then they red, But you know, before they
Speaker 1: resigned McKinnon, I still had hope that he was going
Speaker 1: to maybe improve in that area because who else was
Speaker 1: going to do it. But then they resigned McKinnon and
Speaker 1: that really put a pin in the balloon for me
Speaker 1: and also Bogs. I mean, they've still got you know,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco, who we've talked about with Matt Waldman, who
Speaker 1: really likes him. And I like you mentioned three Archer before,
Speaker 1: there's there's three Archer exactly, so other guys who could
Speaker 1: you know definitely jostle with Ceh for those targets. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned at Ronald Jones is probably just
Speaker 1: the better early down move the sticks type back. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's left for Cech here, Like he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to fight to carve out a roll for
Speaker 1: himself and this is no longer a guy I have
Speaker 1: any enthusiasm about whatsoever. Yeah, I would love to see
Speaker 1: him earn that role, you know, to have Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: finally push him into what we want him to be
Speaker 1: I just don't think I can expect it. Who's number
Speaker 1: three on your bust list here, Fitzy more arguments bogs
Speaker 1: Marquise Hollywood Brown so ECR. I think he's wide receiver
Speaker 1: twenty three, ADP wide receiver twenty one. I've got him
Speaker 1: late twenties at wide receiver twenty nine. So he's had
Speaker 1: under fifty yards in twenty seven of forty six career games.
Speaker 1: That's fifty nine percent. And it is sort of a
Speaker 1: I know that with a guy who's like a high
Speaker 1: average depth of target receiver, a field stretcher, a vertical
Speaker 1: guy like this, that you're gonna have some hit and
Speaker 1: miss games. And who was famous for that. DeShawn Jackson,
Speaker 1: who was like very famous, would give you these spectacular
Speaker 1: blow up games and then disappear for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Also dropped the ball before the goal line. Yea, and
Speaker 1: dropped the ball before the goal. But here's the thing, Box,
Speaker 1: I mean, DeShawn Jackson's career average was nine point nine
Speaker 1: yards per target. That's really good. Marquis Brown's seven point four.
Speaker 1: That's not so good for a deep guy. And you
Speaker 1: know I talked about this in a little video short
Speaker 1: I did for Fantasy pros earlier this week with rookies
Speaker 1: to avoid and talking about Wandel Robinson, like we haven't
Speaker 1: seen in the Super Bowl era we have had and
Speaker 1: this it should be noted, Marquise Brown is five nine.
Speaker 1: We have had thirty eight thousand yards seasons from receivers
Speaker 1: thirty nine or shorter in the Super Bowl era. So
Speaker 1: that's thirty eight such seasons in fifty six years. And
Speaker 1: actually Hollywood Brown does have one of them, so we
Speaker 1: have to credit for that last year, yep, but only
Speaker 1: twelve different guys have done it. So like you're getting
Speaker 1: less than one season from a short receiver on average.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, I'm not necessarily team
Speaker 1: big receiver, Like I don't need all my guys to
Speaker 1: look like AJ Green, but you know, as a long
Speaker 1: term investment, I don't know. Man, I do want a
Speaker 1: guy who's bigger and you know, isn't built like my
Speaker 1: fifteen year old son. So I do have some issues here. Look,
Speaker 1: I understand the trepidation of not wanting to take Marquis Brown.
Speaker 1: Guy was a number one option in Baltimore, and it took.
Speaker 1: It took the Baltimore secondary just dying last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone was hurt back there. Anthony wound up as a
Speaker 1: starting corner. I believe him. In Diggs and Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: kept trading every week of who's going to give up
Speaker 1: the most yards in the NFL. Right, in terms of passing,
Speaker 1: I think Averett might have ended as the worst one.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you knew this that because
Speaker 1: I mentioned it last week. The Ravens threw the ball
Speaker 1: more than the Cardinals last year, which is incredibly surprising,
Speaker 1: but they had to. They played catchup at the end
Speaker 1: of most games because you know, they gave up so
Speaker 1: many yards. The reason I like Marcus Brown and this
Speaker 1: is an argument because I picked him as breakout last week. Now, look,
Speaker 1: I also put Kyler Murray in my bus category. So
Speaker 1: where am I here? Right? I understand those questions, But look,
Speaker 1: I just think he's easily the number one in this
Speaker 1: offense with Hopkins suspended, and I think that's gonna give
Speaker 1: him enough time to develop a rapport with Murray that
Speaker 1: they already have had at Oklahoma. His best season, by
Speaker 1: far was at Oklahoma, and this is a different offense, right.
Speaker 1: I actually am shocked that the average at the target
Speaker 1: for Marquis Brown was over ten yards. Last year, it
Speaker 1: was twelve yards his average s apt the target. So
Speaker 1: in a vertical passing offense like this, I think he's
Speaker 1: just gonna have some big hitter games where you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna be down the field, he's gonna be wide open,
Speaker 1: and Murray's gonna hit him. They don't allow they don't
Speaker 1: let Lamar throw the ball deep in Baltimore. They never have,
Speaker 1: which just like all of Marquis Brown's value is in
Speaker 1: the deep balls. So I'm just excited to see him
Speaker 1: get out of this. You know, Neanderthal run first garbage
Speaker 1: offense that they've been running in Baltimore, which has worked,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go back to this year because they
Speaker 1: want to run the ball more because that defense is
Speaker 1: so bad last year. They want to keep it on
Speaker 1: the sideline and gassed up for when they have to
Speaker 1: go out there. But I understand not liking him, and
Speaker 1: I understand not liking this Cardinal's offense, So we'll disagree
Speaker 1: about this. I'm gonna be in on Marquis Brown, but
Speaker 1: I understand the points that you're making where you're coming from,
Speaker 1: because it's absolutely within the realm of possibility. So, and
Speaker 1: that's what I always say, like, you gotta look at
Speaker 1: a player and know what his ceiling is and what
Speaker 1: his floor is. I feel like because Marquis Brown hasn't
Speaker 1: had this opportunity to play in this type of offense
Speaker 1: that throws the ball deep, that I'm excited about him.
Speaker 1: You say, he's been a number one wide receiver, he's
Speaker 1: had a quarterback that can throw the ball deep, and
Speaker 1: he still hasn't produced until last year because they had
Speaker 1: to throw the ball a million times. Why is he
Speaker 1: all of a sudden going to produce? Now, I think
Speaker 1: they're both fair arguments. So you have to kind of
Speaker 1: you have to take both these thoughts and get somewhere
Speaker 1: in the gray in the middle, which nobody wants to
Speaker 1: do Twitter, social media, very black and white. They don't
Speaker 1: want the gray area. But that's probably where he's gonna live,
Speaker 1: is somewhere in that gray area. My number three here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down to another running back and it's
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. And I know, look, this plays off of
Speaker 1: what I said last week, right, I Javante was my
Speaker 1: obvious pick for a breakout. Melvin Gordon is not being
Speaker 1: drafted high His ADP right now is running back thirty five.
Speaker 1: His ECR is thirty three. I don't have I'm not
Speaker 1: killing him, but I do have him. That makes him
Speaker 1: a low end RB three. I have him more as
Speaker 1: a high end R before at running back thirty nine
Speaker 1: for me, even in a PPR. And look, Gordon signed
Speaker 1: back with the Broncos on April twenty sixth, two days
Speaker 1: before the draft, so they let him walk. Remember there
Speaker 1: were rumors that Melvin Gordon was going to sign with
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I believe April eighth, so that was kind
Speaker 1: of a talking point. He met with the Ravens, he
Speaker 1: went through them. I don't know if he wanted too
Speaker 1: much money, if they didn't want to give him any money.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the problem was. If he didn't
Speaker 1: pass a physical, if they didn't like what this, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it was. But he had a shot
Speaker 1: to go to Baltimore who they're running back desperate they
Speaker 1: you know, we heard the news that Dobbins could start
Speaker 1: on the pup, which he is obviously refuted and has
Speaker 1: been a big joke out with Ian Rappaport. But Gus
Speaker 1: Edwards and Dobbin's both coming off a cl Entries. They
Speaker 1: ended up signing Mike Davis. You're telling me that you
Speaker 1: had a shot to get Melvin Gordon and you would
Speaker 1: rather sign Mike Davis just because of the contract. Something's
Speaker 1: not adding up here, So I'm a little bit worried
Speaker 1: about Melvin Gordon. Plus, this is a new coaching staff
Speaker 1: in Denver. They do use two running backs, right, We've
Speaker 1: seen it in Green Bay. We saw, you know, Jones
Speaker 1: and Dylan play perfectly fine together. But it's funny because
Speaker 1: Javante was the clear breakout guy until they resigned Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: Everyone's dropping Javante down to twelve. They let Gordon walk.
Speaker 1: He came back to the Broncos because no one was
Speaker 1: signing him. So to me, I think Javanta is going
Speaker 1: to move into the category of running backs. She don't
Speaker 1: take off the field because they're too good. CMC Derrick,
Speaker 1: Henry Naji, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara. These are guys who
Speaker 1: don't take off the field. If they're not gassed, they
Speaker 1: they pull themselves off the field. That's when they do it.
Speaker 1: I think Javanta is going to enter that group this year.
Speaker 1: So I think that Melvin Gordon, if you're expecting him
Speaker 1: to be a big piece of this offense. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna get bad, especially on that back end. So
Speaker 1: I am not going to be investing in Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: in all this year because of what I think Javante
Speaker 1: is going to develop into. And this is a new
Speaker 1: coaching staff, and Russell Wilson's gonna be able to pass
Speaker 1: the ball. So what do you think about Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: moving forward? Here? Fitzy Well Boggs, we've been arguing on
Speaker 1: this show. Now, I feel like you're just getting hurtful
Speaker 1: and personal bringing a Wisconsin running back into it. I mean,
Speaker 1: hold on, just let me add Devin. Yeah, let me
Speaker 1: let me add some Texas guys on Devin Duvernet. Uh No,
Speaker 1: it's it's fair man like. So, um, you know, we're
Speaker 1: talking dynasty. So if we're calling him a Boston we're
Speaker 1: thinking the bottom drops out. We're just basically telling people, Okay,
Speaker 1: don't you know you're you're trying to you you're trying
Speaker 1: to win for this year, don't flip up, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four second rounder or twenty twenty three second
Speaker 1: rounder for him. Um, And and that's fair man like.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't tell. Um, you know, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I know they're analysts across the fantasy space making predictions
Speaker 1: about you know, oh hey, why are people drafting Javante
Speaker 1: so high it's gonna be a fifty fifty again, or
Speaker 1: saying this is the year Javante leaves Melvin Gordon in
Speaker 1: the dust and claims like, you know, more of a
Speaker 1: sixty sixty five percent share of the workload. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that's gonna go, man, Like, I don't pretend
Speaker 1: to know what they're thinking about how they're gonna parcel
Speaker 1: out the workload. Um, I do know. I don't think
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is just dust yet. I think he's been
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, he did average more yards per carrying,
Speaker 1: more yards per catch than Javante last year. They're both
Speaker 1: really good Javants. You know, a study, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a great career. We know that. I mean, he passes
Speaker 1: you know, every possible eye test. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: Gordon's the guy who's average double digit targets or double
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns ever since that ill fated rookie season where
Speaker 1: he had zero. Since then, I think it's been like
Speaker 1: eleven point three a season which is just crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: so he has aged pretty well. Wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: he continued to be relevant this year, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Yeah, that's a good argument against Mike
Speaker 1: still there. Yeah, Mike Boone is number two. But also
Speaker 1: like if someone gets cut, I could see the Broncos
Speaker 1: trading for some are picking someone up to be behind
Speaker 1: him and scause Mike Boone went through an injury as
Speaker 1: well last year. So I just I think Javant is
Speaker 1: a breakout. That's why I'm not high on Melboccordon. So
Speaker 1: who's all right, Keenan Allen Um? And I know he
Speaker 1: is kind of a sacred cow in fantasy football. So
Speaker 1: but he's thirty now, this is going to be his
Speaker 1: age thirty season, and we've seen the efficiency drop off.
Speaker 1: He's only averaged ten point three yards per catch his
Speaker 1: last two years uh and seven point uh seven points
Speaker 1: zero yards per target his last two years. So the
Speaker 1: efficiency is kind of nosediving, and I think people forget that.
Speaker 1: Five weeks into the twenty twenty one season, Mike Williams
Speaker 1: was the wide receiver two and PPR full PPR. I
Speaker 1: think in like half point he was actually a little
Speaker 1: bit ahead of Cooper Cup for wide receiver one and
Speaker 1: uh in PPR Keenan Allen was down at wide receiver seventeen.
Speaker 1: So then Williams tweaked his knee in week five. You know,
Speaker 1: he was kind of not himself for a few weeks
Speaker 1: after that, and they sort of ratcheted up Allan's target chair. Like,
Speaker 1: I think he's still going to get targets and catches,
Speaker 1: but you know, Allen's never been a big TV guy,
Speaker 1: and he's certainly not a big play guy anymore at
Speaker 1: this point of his career. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: concern is that he turns into like a glorified Jacoby Myers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that like that's no big plays and no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and to do that, you need a crapload of catches
Speaker 1: to rack up those PPR points and when you catch,
Speaker 1: you know, to his credit, Keenan Allen, after some injury
Speaker 1: problems in his first few years in the league, has
Speaker 1: suddenly become a very durable player. But like, if you're
Speaker 1: doing it on volume, well that's more hits you're taking.
Speaker 1: And this is a dude who's who's you know, made
Speaker 1: his bones over the middle of the field. Um, so,
Speaker 1: like I have some worries here and like if I
Speaker 1: had him, it wouldn't be a bad time to get out.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I mean, and before this season, I
Speaker 1: think this this is the you know, people call it
Speaker 1: the falling knife. I like the um, you know, the
Speaker 1: yoldler on prices right, yes, where if you set that,
Speaker 1: if you set that price too high, he goes to
Speaker 1: the top of the cliff and then he falls off right. Uh.
Speaker 1: That That's what you get with pretty much any running
Speaker 1: wide receiver, running back, any non quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Over the age of thirty, you start to get questions.
Speaker 1: And he I believe will turn thirty two this season
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty seven targets last year. And this
Speaker 1: is one of my biggest discrepancies in terms of rank
Speaker 1: for this year versus dynasty. I have him at nine
Speaker 1: for this year because I still think he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: Herbert is awesome, Mike Williams is a nice compliment next
Speaker 1: to him, Like, I think it all works this year.
Speaker 1: But for in terms of Dynasty, I have him a
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty seven. So it's one of my biggest
Speaker 1: differences because he is gonna fall off at some point.
Speaker 1: You hope it's not this year. But also, you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you're rostering him on a team, that
Speaker 1: is a maybe is wishy washy. You start the year
Speaker 1: bad and you start out Owen three, Owen four. Someone's
Speaker 1: looking for Keenan Allen. You can get him for a
Speaker 1: first you can get a first round pick for him
Speaker 1: next year. Pull that trigger, because he's gonna fall off
Speaker 1: at some point here pretty soon, because he's over thirty.
Speaker 1: This is a good offense. He can help somebody win
Speaker 1: a championship. Now, you make sure you get your investment
Speaker 1: for next year. I think a trade like that would
Speaker 1: be a fair deal. I mean, even preseason. If Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen's like your last good option, trading him for a
Speaker 1: pick would make a lot of sense too. So I
Speaker 1: see this one in terms of dynasty. Just for the record,
Speaker 1: he's he's only thirty. He turned thirty in late April
Speaker 1: ninety two. Oh, that would make him thirty. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm thinking it's twenty four, because that's okay,
Speaker 1: but we're still in the you know, we are getting
Speaker 1: into that. He's definitely passed the Aja packs. I think,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you know, it would be nice. He's had
Speaker 1: a really excellent career and I would like to see him,
Speaker 1: you know, go gently down that slope as he gets
Speaker 1: into his twilight years and not suffer the fate of
Speaker 1: the price is right Yodler? So um, yeah, have you
Speaker 1: ever heard the story about that? There's a story. Just quickly,
Speaker 1: I'll go to this because we've got two more to do.
Speaker 1: But there's a story. They were doing this in I
Speaker 1: think in Europe, and they named the guy. He named
Speaker 1: the guy Fritz, and the late he goes, oh, there
Speaker 1: goes Fritzie. The lady who was in the contest cry
Speaker 1: and ran off. Her husband was named Fritz. She was
Speaker 1: German or something, and he got lost mountain climbing. It's
Speaker 1: just weird. I read this story about it. It's just
Speaker 1: so funny. But my fourth bus, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the Marie Cooper, the brown new Browns wide receiver, and
Speaker 1: I've got him at wide receiver twenty seven for this
Speaker 1: year ECR on him is a wide receiver twenty two
Speaker 1: is ATPs Wide receiver twenty four. So just basically I
Speaker 1: don't want him as a wide receiver. Two is basically
Speaker 1: my thing with Marie Cooper. There's this weird stat the
Speaker 1: Marcus Moser put out about him. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw this fits, but it's over fifty two degrees
Speaker 1: sixty six point two yards per game for Mari Cooper
Speaker 1: under fifty two degrees forty two point six yards per
Speaker 1: game for Mari Cooper. So looks like he may be
Speaker 1: a warm weather gamer. There's a goofy stat. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean a ton, but someone asked right under that great question,
Speaker 1: to ask what about his quarterbacks yards per game by
Speaker 1: that temperature. He said, Dackson's twenty seventeen over fifty two
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy one point four yards under fifty
Speaker 1: two two sixty eight point one. It's only a difference
Speaker 1: of three yards. So I don't know if that means anything,
Speaker 1: but he is going from a dome to a cold
Speaker 1: weather stadium, so that adds just a little bit um.
Speaker 1: You know, Watson's going to be suspended this year for sure,
Speaker 1: so Jacoby Brissett is gonna be the next man up.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to endure what looks like at least
Speaker 1: six games with with Jacoby Brissette, it could be fine,
Speaker 1: but he's not Dack. He's not Deshaun Watson, so there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of concern there. You know, steady decline
Speaker 1: the last three seasons in Dallas, he was thirtieth in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty was twenty second, twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: he was sixteenth. And this is in points per game
Speaker 1: in PPR league. So also, there's no other good wide
Speaker 1: receivers on this roster. And for his career forty five
Speaker 1: point four percent contested catch rate that is stat from PFF,
Speaker 1: so under fifty percent on contesta catches when he's most
Speaker 1: likely going to be doubled up a decent amount as
Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver buy a wide margin in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: So all these little things add up to me. I
Speaker 1: don't hate Amari Cooper. If he falls, I would draft
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver three. But he's being taken
Speaker 1: as a low end wide receiver two. I think there's
Speaker 1: too many other good options out there. I think in
Speaker 1: terms of your Dynace leagues too, he's getting a little
Speaker 1: long in the tooth. He's been in the NFL for
Speaker 1: a while, he's on his third team already. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a little dicey as well. Plus a quarterback questions
Speaker 1: and this is a run first offense. Dallas was fifth
Speaker 1: in the league and past attempts per game last year
Speaker 1: Cleveland was twenty eight. So just not a good offense
Speaker 1: for Amari Cooper to move into. So all that adds
Speaker 1: up to me having him as a little bit overvalued
Speaker 1: for this year and in dinasy, what do you think
Speaker 1: of Cooper fits? He Yeah, he's a hard guy to
Speaker 1: get my head around. Like I mean, watching him play,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's one of the better route runners
Speaker 1: in the league. I know that the next gen stats
Speaker 1: don't really bear that out as far as separation, but
Speaker 1: then again, Robert Woods got more average separation last year
Speaker 1: than Cooper Cup did, so um, I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: much that really mattering. Yeah so um. But you know,
Speaker 1: like he took a while to sort of get out
Speaker 1: of Michael Crabtree shadow and with the Raiders and like
Speaker 1: never really completely came into his own in Dallas. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I M I still think he's good.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, to me, Jayar Alexander is the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in football, and two years ago he clowned JayR
Speaker 1: Alexander in a game of Dallas. So I would imagine
Speaker 1: the game was over Marcus Moser's temperature threshold. It was.
Speaker 1: It was probably a warm one. It was not in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, so I think it'd be high higher than
Speaker 1: that in that stadium, So I kind of I kind
Speaker 1: of buy that. I don't think you're like pinning him
Speaker 1: as one of your I don't think he's anyone's Dynasty
Speaker 1: pillar on their team anymore. He is, you're probably in trouble.
Speaker 1: So I just think if you're getting even value back
Speaker 1: for him right now, i'd probably take it. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're getting a younger player with more upside, i'd probably
Speaker 1: take it. You know, if you can go out and
Speaker 1: get Garrett, we'll save you can get trail On Burks
Speaker 1: for Marie Cooper long term, I'm pulling that trigger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like in Redraft, I think he could be to the
Speaker 1: like it could almost fall to the point where he's
Speaker 1: sort of a boring value this year. But in Dynasty,
Speaker 1: I'm not super excited anymore. All Right, Fitzy, last one up?
Speaker 1: Who's it gonna be? All right, bugs, we can blow
Speaker 1: this one fast, because I want to talk about one
Speaker 1: of the guys that Friedman wanted to talk about. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we can debate this one. So I'll go, this
Speaker 1: is Dalton Schultz a tight end, And basically it's just
Speaker 1: that in three years at Stanford, the guy never had
Speaker 1: more than twenty three catches two hundred and twenty two
Speaker 1: yards or three touchdown catches in a single season. He's
Speaker 1: average athletically, like fifty third percentile speed score, forty fifth
Speaker 1: percentile burst score, seventy second percent agility score, fairly a
Speaker 1: factor in his first two seasons with Dallas, find a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of tight ends aren't and start
Speaker 1: kind of slowly mildly pleasant surprise in twenty twenty when
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin got hurt and then the big breakout last year,
Speaker 1: so he's kind of a one year wonder. He immediately
Speaker 1: wants to like, you know, have Jerry Jones back up
Speaker 1: the brinkstruck and you know, unload piles of money, and
Speaker 1: they're like, not so fast, dude, We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: franchise you, which you know probably is even a little
Speaker 1: bit generous there. I just I don't know that there's
Speaker 1: any reason to be super excited about him long term
Speaker 1: when you know he is pretty much just a one
Speaker 1: year wonder. Called one and a half year wonder as
Speaker 1: far as the stats, Like, the prospect pedigree is good
Speaker 1: but not great. The athletic pedigree not that special at all. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and everyone's kind of in on him
Speaker 1: this year, and maybe there is, you know, with this
Speaker 1: dearth of other you know, we don't have the gallop Cooper,
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, Triumviran anymore. It's just Ceedee Lamb and you know,
Speaker 1: Jayalen Tulbert's and some other guys. So maybe maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: we just see him get a lot of targets fault,
Speaker 1: but I'm just not excited long term. Well, I think athletically,
Speaker 1: you're right. Athletically he's a jag. He's a replacement level player.
Speaker 1: I think he's really smart in his route running and
Speaker 1: Dak loves that, and he's one of Dak's favorites. But
Speaker 1: my biggest concern about him this year and even moving
Speaker 1: forward is he hasn't signed his deal yet. He hasn't
Speaker 1: signed his tag. I don't know what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with him, Like, is he gonna just sit, Well, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen with this contract? It's getting kind of ugly
Speaker 1: right now. They've broached him about a long term extension.
Speaker 1: They haven't come anywhere close, like you said. That is
Speaker 1: what I'm concerned about, is him not getting signed, getting
Speaker 1: into camp late, losing a little bit of steam, and
Speaker 1: not being one of Dak's guys anymore. So I think
Speaker 1: what you said is correct. Athletically, he's not gifted as
Speaker 1: other tight ends. Like you know, if you put um,
Speaker 1: if you put a Dalton Schultz brain in a Noah
Speaker 1: Fant's body, he'd probably be the perfect tight end, right
Speaker 1: but I can't do that. We can't Frankenstein. He's tight end,
Speaker 1: so I think he's going a little high as well.
Speaker 1: My last one, I'll also burn through pretty quick here Fitze.
Speaker 1: It's also a tight end hunter, Henry. Right now, he's
Speaker 1: tight end eleven. I got him for this season tight
Speaker 1: end fourteen. But this is a one big number stuck
Speaker 1: stuck out to me for him is that thirty three
Speaker 1: point three percent of his production was from nine touchdowns
Speaker 1: that he scored last year. So of the top ranked
Speaker 1: twelve tight ends, Dawson Knox is the only one that
Speaker 1: also had thirty three percent of his production come from touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He had the same nine, but which offense would you
Speaker 1: trust to throw more touchdowns this year? Fitze the Bills
Speaker 1: with Josh Ellen or the Patriots with Mac Jones. Who's
Speaker 1: more likely to get those touchdowns back? I think it
Speaker 1: would be Knox, but you can say Knox is in
Speaker 1: that overrated section as well, because honestly, I started this
Speaker 1: as I wanted Knox to be my guy, and then
Speaker 1: I saw a Hunter Henry had the same number, and
Speaker 1: I went, oh, it's probably Hunter Henry. So I just
Speaker 1: want to real quick point out to you the percentage
Speaker 1: in terms of their points scored last year that came
Speaker 1: from touchdowns. Kyle Pitts three point four percent, the lowest
Speaker 1: of all because he only scored one touchdown last year,
Speaker 1: so there is touchdown regression coming for him in a
Speaker 1: positive way. Urtz was eight point three, Waller was nine percent,
Speaker 1: Godard was fourteen and a half, Andrews was seventeen point nine,
Speaker 1: nineteen point six for Kittle, twenty point six for Kelsey,
Speaker 1: twenty three for Schultz, which could add up for you
Speaker 1: a little bit as well. And Hopkinson was twenty four
Speaker 1: point eight. That's it. Everybody else was less than twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of their production, less than a quarter of
Speaker 1: their points came from these touchdowns and over thirty three
Speaker 1: percent for Knox and Hunter Henry. Plus you look at
Speaker 1: this Patriots lineup. They added Parker and Taekwon Thornton, who
Speaker 1: are both six foot three and could be potential red
Speaker 1: zone targets from Mac Jones. So I think Hunter Henry's
Speaker 1: going to be a bust this season. What do you
Speaker 1: think about Hunter Henry? If you're pivoting from Schultz, don't
Speaker 1: go to Henry? Right, I kind of agree with everything
Speaker 1: you said, bugs, And the other thing is like, do
Speaker 1: we always think the split between Henry and John who
Speaker 1: Smith is going to be so severe? Like it? I
Speaker 1: mean it was the only reason I didn't put that
Speaker 1: point in there is because I looked at snap totals
Speaker 1: and Henry had three hundred and thirty three more snaps
Speaker 1: is eight eighty eight to five fifty five, I believe.
Speaker 1: So that was big. But also, I mean, that's got
Speaker 1: a count in there. They don't have another tight end
Speaker 1: of buffalo to throw it? Do they do? In New England?
Speaker 1: John Smith and catch the ball up? They give him
Speaker 1: a better opportunity, right, And then like that was it?
Speaker 1: I remember it. Right after the signing Belichick raving about
Speaker 1: John Who's versatility and all this, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I took John whin some best balls last
Speaker 1: year and I sorely regretted it. Yeah, I mean Hunter Henry,
Speaker 1: he's a red dunk target and he had h you know,
Speaker 1: he had a lot of red zone targets last year.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think he had twenty. He scored
Speaker 1: on nine of them, so less than fifty percent. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I think some of those are gonna
Speaker 1: go to Thornton. So those are gonna go to Parker
Speaker 1: if those guys are on the field constantly, and I'm
Speaker 1: just not going to be uh, you know, dipping my
Speaker 1: baskets into the Hunter Henry. Well here, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about some of Freedman's
Speaker 1: bust here. You have one that for you and I
Speaker 1: have to argue about. So let's let's hear the one
Speaker 1: that you're upset about that's on Freedman's list. All right, So, well,
Speaker 1: for the record, Freedman would have talked about Devin Singletary,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have disagreed. I think Chase Edmonds, Alan Robinson
Speaker 1: and Mike get sicky, but the one guy I want
Speaker 1: to talk about is Antonio Gibson. So Freedman was going
Speaker 1: to make the point that, like, it looks like they
Speaker 1: just wanted him to be like this between the twenties
Speaker 1: back because they brought in Brian Robinson, who you know,
Speaker 1: looks like a goal line type they've got. You know,
Speaker 1: they went out of their way to resign Jad mckissic.
Speaker 1: So you know, like, what's the what's the upside for
Speaker 1: Gibson here? And is he do they just not see
Speaker 1: him as the three down back despite his experience as
Speaker 1: like a college receiver. Here's my point on Gibson Bogs.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is six two and two twenty
Speaker 1: and has sub four four speed. He's basically Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: as far as size and speed combination. He has in
Speaker 1: his first two NFL seasons scored eleven and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He played with a freaking crack in his shin last year.
Speaker 1: You know, he and had some big workloads like running
Speaker 1: up this broken shin like an he just turned twenty four.
Speaker 1: Like everyone hates the usage and I get it, man,
Speaker 1: Like they do seem hell bent on sticking him into
Speaker 1: this platoon, but especially in Dynasty and we talked about
Speaker 1: this with Shane Manila, where Shane traded him to me
Speaker 1: for a pick that turned out to be James Cook
Speaker 1: and then he with his next pick, Shane takes Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson to just totally try to check maybe. But man Like,
Speaker 1: if we if Gibson had not gotten his chance yet,
Speaker 1: if he was like a backup and we saw like
Speaker 1: the dimensions, the speed, the size, the knowing he has
Speaker 1: experienced in college as a wide receiver and like can
Speaker 1: catch passes, everyone would be clamoring for this dude to
Speaker 1: get his chance and people would be salivating over Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 1: Yet he has gotten his chance. He's punched in twenty
Speaker 1: one touchdowns in his first two seasons, and now people
Speaker 1: are off him like, I don't get that at all.
Speaker 1: Man Like, yes, I very much want to buy low
Speaker 1: on Antonio Gibson if I can look. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with the talent that Antonio Gibson has, but
Speaker 1: I do think he's played banged up over the last
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. And you know, this is what Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera saw. This is why I like Brian Robinson and
Speaker 1: Friedman has had this post on his for a while.
Speaker 1: It's every Alabama running back in the Nick saban era
Speaker 1: that's been drafted in the top one hundred picks has
Speaker 1: had a thousand yards season in the NFL. So Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson is in there. He's among that group. We heard
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera talking positively about Brian Robinson after dropping him
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, comparing him and Gibson as these
Speaker 1: two guys a lot like Jonathan Stewart and D'Angelo Williams,
Speaker 1: and look, both running backs had success in that system.
Speaker 1: So what I think is, I think both these guys
Speaker 1: are gonna have success playing here. I think mckissic is
Speaker 1: way more the guy on the outside looking in than
Speaker 1: either these two backs because they can both carry a
Speaker 1: big workload. I think when you have had these lingering issues,
Speaker 1: this broken shin, this rolled ankle, like these little injuries
Speaker 1: that have added up for Gibson playing at less than
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, you draft a guy like Robinson to
Speaker 1: take a little bit of that load off of him.
Speaker 1: So you give Brian Robinson more of a workload. I
Speaker 1: think he's a ten to twelve touches guy. I think
Speaker 1: you want like seventeen to twenty for Gibson somewhere in
Speaker 1: that neighborhood, and you want Carson Wentz to not throw
Speaker 1: the ball. I think that's the real goal here is
Speaker 1: you build those wide receivers with McLaurin with thoughtson. You know,
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas is coming back, so you have a good
Speaker 1: group of white outs. If Diami Brown can do anything
Speaker 1: but your run first offense, you want to keep Chase
Speaker 1: young Amantes sweat on the sideline gassed up so when
Speaker 1: they come out, they can attack the quarterback and potentially
Speaker 1: get the ball back in your offens's hands quickly. So
Speaker 1: I think you're a run first team with Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: as QB. I think both can succeed. I just think
Speaker 1: that Brian Robinson's arrival is gonna take a little bit
Speaker 1: at shine off of Antonio Gibson, but he's still gonna
Speaker 1: go out and have big games. And if they want
Speaker 1: to move him and play him as a slot wide receiver,
Speaker 1: they can. I mean, Curtis Samuel's gonna be hurt week
Speaker 1: two like he always is, so just stick Antonio Gibson
Speaker 1: into that spot right there and let him run some
Speaker 1: routes out of the slot and get the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands a different way and get him the ball
Speaker 1: in space with that size and speed. So I think
Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. So for Antonio Gibson, I just
Speaker 1: don't like the fact that they took Brian Robinson. So
Speaker 1: I'm with Freeman on this a little bit more than
Speaker 1: you are, But I don't think that the arrival of
Speaker 1: Robinson ruins Gibson's value specifically in Dynasty. This year could
Speaker 1: look a little wonky, but once they get it works out,
Speaker 1: I think they'll both be productive. So I'm a little
Speaker 1: more with Freeman on this, But in terms of Dynasty,
Speaker 1: if you can, if I can trade James Cook to
Speaker 1: get Antonio Gibson, I'm doing it ten out of ten
Speaker 1: times every time. So yeah, I'm with you there. That's
Speaker 1: fair And yeah, man, I mean that is so, and
Speaker 1: it just final point on it bogs like I like
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson too a lot, but I think NFL teams
Speaker 1: know they need like multiple running backs, especially you made
Speaker 1: the point. I mean, Gibson has been banged up. They
Speaker 1: need the insurance man because you don't want to be
Speaker 1: left with what Jared Patton went to mckissic and j
Speaker 1: Patterson last year didn't work. You know, they've proven that
Speaker 1: that can't work. So McKissick is nice as a receiving option.
Speaker 1: You can put him in the slot too. The guy
Speaker 1: can catch a lot of footballs. But I just Robinson
Speaker 1: can catch the ball too, so he can do everything.
Speaker 1: So you have a three down back coming here, and
Speaker 1: the system with already a three down back, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be dicey. That's it for Busts for this week.
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