Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. It's a Fantasy pros Dynasty Fantasy Football
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Speaker 1: Scott Bogman. Follow me on the Twitter at Bogman Sports.
Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by Pat fitz Morris at fits
Speaker 1: Underscore ff on the Twitter machine. Fitzye, how's the summer
Speaker 1: treating you? I mean training camps here, we had one
Speaker 1: preseason game already, A bunch are coming this weekend. Are
Speaker 1: Where are you on the excitement level right now? Pretty high? Bogs? Yeah,
Speaker 1: summer is pretty much over. With the Hall of Fame game,
Speaker 1: Like I always going this golf trip with friends, like
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game weekend, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Last come back from that. Yeah, summer's over. Shane is
Speaker 1: joining us again at Shane is the worst You know
Speaker 1: him from Dynasty Trades podcast Trades in five. I mean
Speaker 1: he's all over the place here of course, Dynasty, uh Data,
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Data, NFL. Excuse me, Shane, how have you
Speaker 1: been since we had had you on the show, and
Speaker 1: how how is your summer treating you? Are you ready
Speaker 1: for the season actually start? It feels like it's been
Speaker 1: ages since I've been on the show. I don't even
Speaker 1: know when that was, So I'm just gonna lie and
Speaker 1: say everything's been great and awesome. Pat, the summer is
Speaker 1: not over yet. We've got one more giant, huge event
Speaker 1: before the summer is over, this weekend Fantasy Football Expo. Yes,
Speaker 1: I wish I could join you, guys. I will not
Speaker 1: be able to attend, but uh, you guys are gonna
Speaker 1: have a great time. I mean, honestly, that is why
Speaker 1: my whole weekend is free, because everyone I know is
Speaker 1: going to the expo, so uh, you know it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun, exciting time. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys will meet up and have a drink. I'll send
Speaker 1: you all some money have a drink on me, So
Speaker 1: of course please today up on the show. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing sell highs. So you know, last week we
Speaker 1: looked at buy lows and now we're gonna look at
Speaker 1: the negative side of this, so of course we've brought
Speaker 1: Shane on to talk about some negatives. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: at all. Please do it as soon as you possibly can. Shane,
Speaker 1: you are the guests. You are first up, so please
Speaker 1: give us someone you are selling high on right now
Speaker 1: and give us some negative talk on a good player.
Speaker 1: This is always fun. Well this is I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: first with someone that Pat actually likes and he was
Speaker 1: talking up on his other show. A couple of these.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna fight about here, Shane. I saw
Speaker 1: your list, so today I was listening. I guess it
Speaker 1: was yesterday's episode. Joseph Barrow. Joe Barrow is que four
Speaker 1: in the Dynasty ecrum, which is shocking. I find it
Speaker 1: important offensive. I find it very recency bias Biasess, however,
Speaker 1: you say that, So I'm just gonna throw out some
Speaker 1: fun stats. I was looking for a tweet someone had
Speaker 1: a better stat than me. It was something how much
Speaker 1: of his fantasy production came in three games. I couldn't
Speaker 1: find that, so I just looked up his stats real quick.
Speaker 1: Twenty three percent of his fantasy production came in week
Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen, which is great if you were in
Speaker 1: the Champion and Ship. Um. But unfortunately, if he was
Speaker 1: your quarterback, um in one quarterback super flex leagues, even
Speaker 1: you probably weren't in the playoffs. UM. Now, I know
Speaker 1: Paddill have some some reasoning as to why you know
Speaker 1: he's better than we think. Um. Another thing concerns me
Speaker 1: is he's got no rushing ability. Um. Yes, he ran
Speaker 1: a little bit in college. Um, we saw what happened
Speaker 1: in the pros. You know he ran a little bit
Speaker 1: in his rookie year and got his knee absolutely destroyed.
Speaker 1: And then the Bengals I think, had a little talk
Speaker 1: with him rightly so, and said, hey, uh, we don't
Speaker 1: want you to run, which is that's perfect for your
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback in the NFL. But was he running when
Speaker 1: he got hurt. I just don't remember, or no, he
Speaker 1: was just a sitting duck in the pocket. In the pocket,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking they just don't want him ever, just
Speaker 1: saying your little bubble, hopefully that won't happen again. Um,
Speaker 1: we've improved your lie and so hopefully we won't let
Speaker 1: anyone just shred your knee and come through. Um, you
Speaker 1: can't be in the top five for me if you
Speaker 1: can't run for at least four hundred rushing yards in
Speaker 1: the season. I mean you don't have to, but you
Speaker 1: have to have the ability like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: of someone I won't mention his name who's on this list.
Speaker 1: It isn't like um, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Wattson even These
Speaker 1: are all guys that I like more than Barrow. I
Speaker 1: like Barrow as a low end quarterback one which is
Speaker 1: what he was last year he was at QB ten.
Speaker 1: He's perfectly in that Dak Prescott, I'm not gonna lose
Speaker 1: you a week, but I'm probably not going to win
Speaker 1: you a week role unless you know, he goes bonkers
Speaker 1: like you did in Week sixteen and seventeen when you
Speaker 1: weren't even playing most of you, most of you weren't.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that we're starting with a
Speaker 1: fight here. Pat. I will let you respond first, of course,
Speaker 1: because you are the Joe Joe Burrow supporter, So tell
Speaker 1: me why Shane is wrong. Here, we'll push back a
Speaker 1: little bit on the rashing. I mean, I think he'll
Speaker 1: give you a little something, and they're fairy. He's never
Speaker 1: going to be a true Konami code guy, but maybe
Speaker 1: he can give you something close to what just in
Speaker 1: her Herbert gives you. Maybe, And like I know, everyone
Speaker 1: is just over the moon on Herbert, and Herbert threw
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two more passes than Burrow last year,
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that's kind of a circumstantial thing,
Speaker 1: like what if what if the Bengals defense falls apart,
Speaker 1: kind of like the Charters did last year, and he
Speaker 1: has to throw a lot more so I mean he's
Speaker 1: got these two great bookend receivers. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: Burrow really passes the eye test for me just as
Speaker 1: a pure passor. But man, that eight point nine yards
Speaker 1: per TEP last year. I mean that's something Tom Brady
Speaker 1: has never done in his entire career and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has done once. And I mean, I just think this
Speaker 1: guy is going to be like a ruthlessly efficient passer
Speaker 1: and like big play guy throughout his career, you know.
Speaker 1: To me, like watching him, I think he's a better
Speaker 1: quarterback than Justin Herbert. I mean, look, I will admit
Speaker 1: I was wrong on Herbert coming in, and it was
Speaker 1: that's about the physical tools for Herbert from me then
Speaker 1: like hearing him talk and it was almost like he
Speaker 1: had to convince GMS that he was a you know, hard,
Speaker 1: knows enough guy to take over a huddle and all
Speaker 1: that stuff going into the process, and we'd never seen
Speaker 1: him have the success throwing at organ that he has
Speaker 1: had with the Chargers already. But I mean, look, I'm
Speaker 1: also in Unburrow. I'm okay with Burrow being high, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have these great wide receivers for a while. The
Speaker 1: guy can throw the ball. He may not have the
Speaker 1: rushing upside that he once had, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that means that he can't run at all, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, four hundred yards is probably asking a lot,
Speaker 1: but it's more about scoring touchdowns on the run if so,
Speaker 1: I think he can eventually do that, although you know,
Speaker 1: obviously last year coming off the injury, they didn't want
Speaker 1: him to do it. So I think that is something
Speaker 1: he could potentially add to his game. But you know,
Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It It ain't broke
Speaker 1: right now, so they're probably not going to have him run.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little downer. I'm a little more down
Speaker 1: on him this season, specifically with this appen deck to
Speaker 1: me and is he gonna Is there gonna be any
Speaker 1: rust week one, because it doesn't look like he's gonna
Speaker 1: play at all in the preseason, so um, maybe he
Speaker 1: gets off to a slow start or something. But I mean, overall,
Speaker 1: I think I'm okay with Burrow, but I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of in the middle. And also, look, I loved hating
Speaker 1: on Bengals, so Shane, you definitely get points for that
Speaker 1: with me being a Steelers fan. So Joe Burrow thrown
Speaker 1: under the bus by Shane. Who are you thrown under
Speaker 1: the bus here? Uh, Fitzy, who's your number one guy
Speaker 1: that you are selling high on? I mean, even though
Speaker 1: I think it, you know, Shane's take on that was
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. I gotta give him credit though, for bringing
Speaker 1: a major sell high. I mean, if you do sell
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you gonna get a little Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like you know, the prices right showcase showdown with
Speaker 1: just you know. I'm I'm I'm glad you brought that up, Pat,
Speaker 1: because like sell high, mean can mean different things. We
Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit last week with you know,
Speaker 1: buy low, selling high. Joe Burrow is still gonna be
Speaker 1: a great quarterback. Shane knows that, but he knows that
Speaker 1: the perceived value right now for Joe Burrow is probably
Speaker 1: a little bit more than it will be over the
Speaker 1: entirety of his career. So you're selling him at his
Speaker 1: very high point doesn't mean he's not going to be
Speaker 1: a QB one moving forward. It just means he's not
Speaker 1: going to be a top five QB. So you can
Speaker 1: be down on someone or want to sell someone high
Speaker 1: and still not hate their guts. We're all being sarcastic
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: that point before and move on here. So sorry, Pat,
Speaker 1: without further ado, who do you hate and don't want
Speaker 1: on any of your teams? Yeah, in the case in
Speaker 1: the case of my guy, it's more someone who I
Speaker 1: think has immediate value, but it is probably going to
Speaker 1: be dust in two years and someone no, really, no
Speaker 1: one really wants. Leonard Fournetts is ECR in Dynasty on
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Pros rankings running back twenty two, sick the
Speaker 1: running back twenty nine for me, and I wonder if
Speaker 1: that's even a little too high going into his age
Speaker 1: twenty seven season. And we've talked about this box like
Speaker 1: it was just the perfect setup for him last year
Speaker 1: with uh, you know, Tom Brady being in his mid
Speaker 1: forties just turning into a dump off machine, never wanting
Speaker 1: to get hit. And there was no one else for
Speaker 1: Brady to dump off to last year because Geo Bernard
Speaker 1: was hurt and you know, Ronald Jones is a complete
Speaker 1: train wreck in the passing game. So this year, different
Speaker 1: other options. Geo's back, and they drafted Rashad White, who's
Speaker 1: good in the passing game, like that's kind of his thing,
Speaker 1: and the other thing in the running game, like the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers offensive line is hurting. Man like Jansen was a
Speaker 1: big loss. Yeah, yeah, they lose Jansen to the knee injury,
Speaker 1: which I don't think we know exactly what that is yet.
Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at it looks like it's
Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, all right, and then the two guards,
Speaker 1: I mean, they lost Alex kappan free agency, Ali mar
Speaker 1: Pat retired, so that line has been decimated, which you know,
Speaker 1: Fournette has not really been the most efficient runner over
Speaker 1: his career to begin with, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: doubt he equals last year's I believe, career high four
Speaker 1: point five yards per carry with you know, this lesser
Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him. Now. While I love
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette and I do, I will admit that his
Speaker 1: dynasty value is probably a little overblown. But I do
Speaker 1: think he's still gonna have a great year this year,
Speaker 1: even with the hits to the old line because Tom
Speaker 1: Brady loves him, and it's just hard to pull a
Speaker 1: player off the field that Tom Brady loves. You know,
Speaker 1: he's going to pass the ball to him a bunch
Speaker 1: of time. Still, I know Rashad White is getting some buzz.
Speaker 1: Our boy Piezappia on the IL podcast today, came on
Speaker 1: and said he thinks Kareem Hunt would be a perfect
Speaker 1: candidate to go to Tampa Bay. And that's a good thought,
Speaker 1: it's a great idea, and that would really hurt Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, who knows if they're even
Speaker 1: gonna trade Hunt. I don't think they are. They need
Speaker 1: him because of you know, Brissette's probably gonna be their
Speaker 1: quarterback for most of the year, so you know, there's
Speaker 1: just not a lot challenging him this year. But when
Speaker 1: Brady leaves, it's all gone. You know, the offense, this
Speaker 1: team is going to be rebuilding. Hopefully he'll be on
Speaker 1: a different team. But you can't come into camp overweight
Speaker 1: at you know, in your late twenties as a running back.
Speaker 1: You know your career is not going to be uh,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna last long. It's long. It's last the
Speaker 1: least of any position in the NFL. And I just
Speaker 1: don't think you can survive without great training. And he
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to be, you know, the guide that's
Speaker 1: ever going to get that under control, so long term value,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. This year, I'm still in on
Speaker 1: for yet. I was trying to do this without the
Speaker 1: fat shamming bagman, but since you bring look, I ain't
Speaker 1: get a fat him. I ain't get a fatch him
Speaker 1: anybody here. I'll just say that, first of all, I
Speaker 1: have no room to speak in terms of fat shaming.
Speaker 1: But you know, I also don't don't get paid millions
Speaker 1: of dollars to stay in shape. And I think I
Speaker 1: probably would be in better shape if I was paid
Speaker 1: millions of dollars for it. So um, you know, you
Speaker 1: never know till you try. But hey, somebody pay me
Speaker 1: millions of dollars, I'll see if I can stay in shape,
Speaker 1: that'd be fine. But you know, it's just it's not
Speaker 1: a good look for a guy that already is kind
Speaker 1: of long in the tooth in terms of his NFL career. So, Shane,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Leonard Fournette moving forward? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing with Leonard Fournette. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the other players ranked around him, right, and if
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a guy that I'm just thinking about
Speaker 1: this year and next year, I think i'd rather have
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. You know, I know that offends all the
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard fans trout there. Yeah, and if I'm looking
Speaker 1: long term, well, clearly I'd rather have James Cook than
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. So I just even Elijah Mitchell, to be
Speaker 1: quite honest with you. So there's just guys there that
Speaker 1: I like better. Like you said, I think he's fine
Speaker 1: for this year, but I can get a player that
Speaker 1: I like better that it ranked lower. I'd much rather
Speaker 1: take Zeke because I think Zeke's could have a better season,
Speaker 1: Like you guys said, Jansen's hurt um. Last update on
Speaker 1: that was three days ago. He's out at least two months, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: so who knows. It's not good. I mean with a
Speaker 1: guy that size too, it's hard to you know, uh,
Speaker 1: get that knee repaired and maybe back at the end
Speaker 1: of the season, but it's probably gonna be the year
Speaker 1: for him. So and even this year though, I mean,
Speaker 1: there is a legitimate competition, right we think Rashade White
Speaker 1: might actually be Now you don't think it'll be a lot,
Speaker 1: but I it's Brady. Do you think Brady wants a
Speaker 1: rookie out there protecting him even though Rashad White has
Speaker 1: been very good in camp, and he came in as
Speaker 1: a better press pass protector. The most uh you know,
Speaker 1: uh rookie running backs would be I just don't know
Speaker 1: if you want a rookie out there protecting him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jill Bernardo so yeah. And if Ga was healthy,
Speaker 1: he's going to see a ton of receptions. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna gonna see these little dump offs. And I fall
Speaker 1: down quickly that Leonard Fournette does. Hey, you know what
Speaker 1: in PP are they all count Yeah? Look, and you
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of guys there like And I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I like James Cook a lot, and I think he's
Speaker 1: got the ability to take over that backfield at some point.
Speaker 1: I still would take Leonard Fournette and the Diners draft
Speaker 1: over him right now, because Leonard Fournette has a number
Speaker 1: one job and I like James Cook. But give me
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, give me the guy that's gonna get touchdowns
Speaker 1: for a good offense. You know, James Cook's gonna have
Speaker 1: a role. He could even take over the full role.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna be halfway through the year by that point,
Speaker 1: especially if any Zach Moss gets any run here that
Speaker 1: we're hearing about. I mean more likely he gets traded
Speaker 1: or cut. But you know, it just looks weird there,
Speaker 1: and I don't like what they're doing James Cook right now,
Speaker 1: but I'd rather have Leonard Fournette. So I'll defend Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette a little bit. But if this was a redraft show,
Speaker 1: I'd defend him to the boat. So won't do that here.
Speaker 1: My first player that I want to sell high is
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or currently ECRQB five. And once again, this
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I think he's gonna completely fall off
Speaker 1: or be a bad player. I just think that this
Speaker 1: is the highest level. Well you're gonna get Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: at so right now would be a good time to
Speaker 1: sell him. And I say that because this system has
Speaker 1: been nice for him. But we saw his rushing touchdowns
Speaker 1: drop off last year from eleven to five and James
Speaker 1: Connor got that big run. Well after you signed a
Speaker 1: guy like Kyler Murray to this big giant extension after
Speaker 1: he was a huge cry baby, and you have to
Speaker 1: put that call of duty stat which, by the way,
Speaker 1: did you guys see the barstool call of duty stat
Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray, did either one of you see that? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: fifty you didn't see it? Oh thank god? Upon the
Speaker 1: release of Call of Duty. Upon the release of Call
Speaker 1: of Duty his average points per game, which is also like,
Speaker 1: it's later in the season, so guy could be banked up.
Speaker 1: There's many different reasons, but it's just a funny correlation.
Speaker 1: His points per game go from twenty two and a
Speaker 1: half to seventeen and a half after the after the
Speaker 1: average release date of Call of Duty comes out, which
Speaker 1: is why they had this, like you know, this four
Speaker 1: hours of independent study clause originally in his contract because
Speaker 1: everybody knows that he just loves the game all the time,
Speaker 1: which is eye rolling and dumb, but whatever, It's just
Speaker 1: a funny correlation. But the bigger point to me is that,
Speaker 1: you know, after signing a guy to a deal this big,
Speaker 1: you probably want to run him a little less because
Speaker 1: he is a smaller stature. He did get hurt last season,
Speaker 1: remember he rolled his ankle, and I think he only
Speaker 1: missed two or three games. But you know, it's that
Speaker 1: questionable tag you have to go in with. It's not
Speaker 1: just the games he physically misses, it's also the am
Speaker 1: I going to be able to start this guy, so
Speaker 1: you're probably burning a roster spot on another player, another
Speaker 1: quarterback backing him up just in case he can't go.
Speaker 1: So he becomes a little conditional sometimes, and so I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna run him a little bit less, which
Speaker 1: is Shane mentioned beforehand takes a lot of value off
Speaker 1: of these guys if they can't run as much or
Speaker 1: are not willing to run as much. So I just
Speaker 1: don't think, specifically at the goal line, they're going to
Speaker 1: run him a lot. Plus, he extends a lot of plays,
Speaker 1: which opens himself up for some big hits. In a
Speaker 1: lifetime of watching Ben Roethlisberger play and extend plays, I
Speaker 1: know exactly how a guy can get his head taken off.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben took hits that would have broken Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray in half. So I just it all adds up
Speaker 1: to me not being as high on Kyler Murray. And
Speaker 1: I moved him all the way down to six in
Speaker 1: my Dynasty rankings from his ZCRS five. I have him
Speaker 1: at six, so I'm still very high on him. But
Speaker 1: I just think if you're looking to sell someone high,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is going to be one of those guys
Speaker 1: from Shane, what do you think of Murray? Highly offended?
Speaker 1: I love Mary, as you might know or may have heard,
Speaker 1: I took Mary at one on one in scott Fish Bowl.
Speaker 1: Didn't think twice about it. Look, I've heard the narrative
Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray falls off towards the end of the year,
Speaker 1: and it's somewhat true. But I just wanted to take
Speaker 1: a peek to see how he did the end of
Speaker 1: last year. So three out of last five weeks last
Speaker 1: year he finished as a QB six or better. That's
Speaker 1: fallen off. I'm okay with that now. The other two weeks, admittedly,
Speaker 1: he was thirteen and fifteen, which is an elite. That's
Speaker 1: not what you want there, right, That's not what you're
Speaker 1: banking as you probably if you have Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: a super flex, you built your team around them. If
Speaker 1: he's given you a QB fifteen week, you probably lost
Speaker 1: the size concerns legitimate, yes, because yes, same thing. Like
Speaker 1: I've watched Big Ben take a bunch of hits. I
Speaker 1: was hoping that he would break in half and he
Speaker 1: never did. And Kylier does look like he would get
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed if someone hit him like that. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if someone will because I'm not smart enough
Speaker 1: to think of this my own. But someone said it before.
Speaker 1: These guys have been this size their whole life, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they've always been undersized. Obviously, the NFL is a
Speaker 1: whole different animal, but he's been undersized this whole life.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that he's used to that and he
Speaker 1: understands what he needs to do, not take hits. I
Speaker 1: love the addition of Marquis Brown too. I think, look,
Speaker 1: best friends, college best friends. That's the new breakfast narrative.
Speaker 1: So if you went to college together, obviously you're gonna
Speaker 1: combine for fifteen hundred receiving yards next year. I think
Speaker 1: that the receiving core will be really good when DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins get back gets back, because I'll be able to
Speaker 1: run a lot more tight two tight end sets with
Speaker 1: him and Arts since Hopkins is basically tight end now.
Speaker 1: I just I do like that team, and I think
Speaker 1: even if his rushing comes down, he does have room
Speaker 1: for regression for throwing touchdowns because he's never really had
Speaker 1: a high amount. He's a twenty six, twenty four or
Speaker 1: twenty something like that every year, so there's definitely a
Speaker 1: room for growth in the touchdown department passing touchdowns, which, again,
Speaker 1: like you said earlier about points, I don't care how
Speaker 1: you get them. Is it just throwing touchdown our rushing touchdown.
Speaker 1: I'll take the six. Your concerts are valid, though, I
Speaker 1: tend to look on the opposite side because I like him,
Speaker 1: which is what we generally do with players that we like.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm gonna do. But yeah, I'm the narrative.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely a Kyler and Murray guy. Uh, Fitzy, you're
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker. You enter out on Kyler Murray long term. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So now I've got two crazy people on a show
Speaker 1: with me because I'm totally in on Kyler Murray still,
Speaker 1: and like he is anchoring my uh you know best
Speaker 1: and the Dynasty team dearest in my heart. And I
Speaker 1: know before he had that high ankle sprain against the
Speaker 1: Packers in Week eight last year, I mean he was
Speaker 1: just putting up massive points every week. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I was Paul Duty came out before call of Duty
Speaker 1: came out. Five Yeah, I mean, he had he had
Speaker 1: my team seven to zero and it was largely like
Speaker 1: on his back. And the thing about Murray, like for
Speaker 1: all the running quarterbacks. He is a better passer than
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. He's a better passer than Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just easy to see when you watch him.
Speaker 1: And last year he actually spiked his UM yards per
Speaker 1: tempt seven point nine. His previous i'd been seven point
Speaker 1: one with Hollywood, right, I mean, it should it should,
Speaker 1: man like, and he once he gets DeAndre Hopkins back, man,
Speaker 1: he's going to have some pass catchers. You know, Trey
Speaker 1: mc kind of an underrated acquisition possibly, so um yeah,
Speaker 1: I really, I really like the dude. I think there's
Speaker 1: still upward mobility. And you know, as our college met
Speaker 1: Friedman said, this is the only guy in the league
Speaker 1: capable of throwing for five thousand and running for a thousand.
Speaker 1: There's no one else that can do it. And you know,
Speaker 1: not that he's going to, not that it's a likelihood,
Speaker 1: but like his ceiling probably is higher than any other
Speaker 1: quarterback except maybe Josh Allen. We're leaving out Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I guess Josh Allen, but maybe maybe I'm remembering Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson too fondly putting up number one and number two
Speaker 1: CFF scores ever over Barry Sanders even but I think
Speaker 1: Lamar could do that too, but he's not in the
Speaker 1: right system to do that. So that is a valid
Speaker 1: argument against Lamar is that like Harball is never gonna
Speaker 1: let him do that. They're never going to pass the
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Speaker 1: who is your number two player that you are going
Speaker 1: to be selling high on right now? So look, I
Speaker 1: just want to preface this by saying you, m Pat
Speaker 1: made a good point, right, and sometimes we don't make
Speaker 1: this point. Part of selling high is I can get
Speaker 1: a lot in return for this player, right Like, you
Speaker 1: can't just sell high on a player just because you
Speaker 1: don't like them, because you're going to get squat back.
Speaker 1: So this is a player that I know you can
Speaker 1: get a lot back for, Mister Cede Lamb wide receiver
Speaker 1: three in ECR consensus in Dynasty, And I've said this before,
Speaker 1: he's the wide receiver three almost by default, right Like,
Speaker 1: it goes some version in everyone's rankings of Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase and then it's like, well, I guess
Speaker 1: it's CD because he's supposed to be the next one,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't actually been elite yet. His target chair
Speaker 1: last year twenty eighteen percent in his rookie year. Those
Speaker 1: are good, not elite. It's been wide receiver ten, wide
Speaker 1: receiver eighteen, good not elite. The other thing is is
Speaker 1: even if he comes out and smashes this year and
Speaker 1: puts up a wide receiver, I don't know overall three season,
Speaker 1: what's his ranking going to be next year? Why receiver three?
Speaker 1: Like he's he's at his ceiling now. I know Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Jamar Chase r too, obviously, but I just
Speaker 1: think they aren't different, very different players than ceding no
Speaker 1: disrespect the CD. Those guys have shown it that they
Speaker 1: are elite, elite, where CD has shown that he's good.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's shown that he's actually wide
Speaker 1: receiver three good. So that I'm good with selling him
Speaker 1: and pivoting off him for a wide receiver. You know
Speaker 1: that someone might have ranked a little lower but has
Speaker 1: similar production. So who is that, Like, who are you
Speaker 1: talking about one for one CD deal is there? Or
Speaker 1: are you talking about like get someone lower back and
Speaker 1: like a draft pick or something like that. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the summer, well, Jesus, summer is ending.
Speaker 1: Um the beginning in the off season. My favorite move
Speaker 1: was trading CD Lamb for Jalen Waddell on the first,
Speaker 1: trading Cede Lamb for Tee Higgins and a first because
Speaker 1: both those guys Jalen Wattle actually you know, obviously got
Speaker 1: a little ding there when Tyreek joined them. Wasn't really
Speaker 1: looking forward to that or knowing that that was going
Speaker 1: to happen. But I feel like both those guys have
Speaker 1: at least eighty to nine of CD's production in them,
Speaker 1: if not better than him, and then you get the
Speaker 1: additional first, you take the shot. So if your particular
Speaker 1: league's not up on the twenty twenty three class, still
Speaker 1: try to make that move because the twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: class is just going to be sickening and all your
Speaker 1: league mates will hate you next year when you made
Speaker 1: that pick. But something like that definitely not straight up.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just to a different wide receiver if I was.
Speaker 1: There's no other wide receiver one for one, unless I'm
Speaker 1: getting Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase that I would rank for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's kind of in his own tier, which does
Speaker 1: make him a little bit tougher to trade Pat, But look,
Speaker 1: I don't hate the idea of selling Ceedee Lamb high,
Speaker 1: but there's no way I'm going to sell Ceedee Lamb high.
Speaker 1: I think he has that same type of ability that
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Case do. He just haven't hasn't had that
Speaker 1: number one overall role yet. Um it looks like it's
Speaker 1: coming this year because they got nobody else right now,
Speaker 1: everybody's hurt. Amari is gone and I was high on
Speaker 1: Amari too. I always like Amari Cooper. So uh fits
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Ceedee Lamb? Is this? Uh? Is Shane
Speaker 1: right that you would trade higher? Do you think he's
Speaker 1: kind of appropriate where he is? What do you think
Speaker 1: about him? I think Shance right and uh Lamb is
Speaker 1: probably appropriate where he is. Like, I think the talent
Speaker 1: is legit. I mean I kind of fell for him
Speaker 1: bugs when he was torching your beloved Texas Longhorns for
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the Red River rivalry game. Why do
Speaker 1: you think I I what do you think? I have
Speaker 1: him in such high esteem? By the way, because I
Speaker 1: watched many of those games, So yeah, and I like,
Speaker 1: I think he made maybe one of the most acrobatic
Speaker 1: catches I've ever seen at the Combine when it was
Speaker 1: just like a fade pattern drill um. Yeah. Man, I like,
Speaker 1: I think he's really good. I think he's primed for
Speaker 1: maybe like one hundred and forty and fifty target season
Speaker 1: the way things are setting up with the Cowboys. But like,
Speaker 1: I can't argue with Shane at all. And if you're
Speaker 1: one of these people and certain people like to build
Speaker 1: this way in dynasty, like you know, build the wide
Speaker 1: receiver room and just stack good receiver on top of
Speaker 1: good receiver. If you've got that kind of a team
Speaker 1: where you cut plenty of depth behind Lamb and you're
Speaker 1: you know, because you pay so much attention to wide receiver,
Speaker 1: your running backs are trash or you've got nothing at quarterback.
Speaker 1: I could totally see moving Lamb and getting obviously a
Speaker 1: lot in return, like he is one of the guys
Speaker 1: you could just get a King's ransom four. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just think with the current state of the Cowboys secondary,
Speaker 1: they're gonna need to play point for point for a while.
Speaker 1: I mean Treyvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs deleted his Twitter because
Speaker 1: everyone's posting so many, you know, clips of him getting
Speaker 1: torched by not just Edie Lamb, I mean Ceede Lamb.
Speaker 1: Is like, Okay, I got torched by one of the
Speaker 1: best three wide receivers in the NFL. Whatever, But he's
Speaker 1: getting torched by Noah Brown out there. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not having a good camp right now. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been pretty ugly, Fitzy, who's your number two player
Speaker 1: that you're gonna end up selling high on here? For us?
Speaker 1: I'm just almost like embarrassed now because Shane is bringing
Speaker 1: up a bazooka and I've got this water pistol like
Speaker 1: I've got I mean, I don't look as crazy, how
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, it's like what am I? What am
Speaker 1: I getting in a deal for Clyde Edwards Hilaire, And
Speaker 1: yet Clyde Edwards Hilaire is a sell high because like
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be worth almost nothing after this year.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I mean, like you want to make
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan sad, just remind them that they could
Speaker 1: have had Jonathan Taylor, and I mean Chiefs fans do
Speaker 1: not have a lot to be sad about, but man, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so, like this guy was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: reason everyone was so excited about him. They thought he
Speaker 1: was going to be a big part of the passing game,
Speaker 1: and it really hasn't happened. Man. I mean last year
Speaker 1: one point nine catches a game, twelve point nine receiving
Speaker 1: yards a game. And I had hope in the offseason
Speaker 1: that like Cech was at least going to be the
Speaker 1: sole pass catching running back on a team that as
Speaker 1: a quarterback who likes to throw to his running backs.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs have targeted their running backs at
Speaker 1: a pretty high rate the last couple of years. But
Speaker 1: then they signed Jeric McKinnon. And when Jerick McKinnon poses
Speaker 1: an existential threat to your fantasy value, like you're not
Speaker 1: going to be around for long. I mean, not even
Speaker 1: the biggest threat. Now, Isaiah seems to be the Isaiah
Speaker 1: Pacheco exactly. Like he's really good. So like in his
Speaker 1: rookie year, Cch was like RB twenty and fantasy points
Speaker 1: per game with all running backs who had at least
Speaker 1: seven games last year running back twenty eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can't flourish with the Chiefs, where are you
Speaker 1: going to flourish? And I think if he doesn't get
Speaker 1: it done this year, he's just going to be like
Speaker 1: gone or relegated to kick returns. Yeah, I mean look
Speaker 1: one that I wholeheartedly agree with here, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Shane, You're gonna have much to argue about with
Speaker 1: Fitzy on cech right. I mean, it's Isaiah Pacheco's backup,
Speaker 1: So no camp seventh rounder versus first rounder. That's just craziness,
Speaker 1: but it's the way it is. It's running backs. Yeah. Remember,
Speaker 1: I need everyone to remember um as a as a
Speaker 1: lesson to all of us. We were all and I
Speaker 1: by all by based off ADP. We were drafting Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire in the first round of startup drafts the
Speaker 1: year he came out, the first round of startup drafts,
Speaker 1: not the workie draft startups. Yeah, because he went to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We saw what he did at LSU the
Speaker 1: year before, and we went one plus one equals one
Speaker 1: hundred million points. He's going to score next year. And
Speaker 1: you got to the NFL home where like, wait, he
Speaker 1: doesn't look as fast as he did in college. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: that dude's just been a disappointment. I get a pat
Speaker 1: If you can move him now, pivot to another position.
Speaker 1: I would do that all day. If anyone still believes
Speaker 1: in them, make them moves. Yeah, and Look, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean the cch is dead, but he's not
Speaker 1: gonna do anything in Kansas City, right, Like, go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of tread because he can't
Speaker 1: get on the field right, so he hasn't worn down
Speaker 1: the tread too much. So you know, look, go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: See if you can have success somewhere else, or have
Speaker 1: a role at least turn into Jady McKissick or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it ain't working in KC. And
Speaker 1: like Pat said, if it ain't working in case, it
Speaker 1: probably ain't gonna work. So that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: My second guy here, I'm gonna go with David Montgomery.
Speaker 1: And this one hurts my heart because I like David
Speaker 1: Montgomery a lot, and it was up until training camp
Speaker 1: that I was still high on him because Aberfloss he
Speaker 1: was saying all the right things. He's he gave him
Speaker 1: the I like eminem guys motor and mean, and David
Speaker 1: Montgomery is motor and mean. That's what he is. He's
Speaker 1: a professional, he's a stud, all that stuff. And now
Speaker 1: we get to camp and this was his quote. Montgomery
Speaker 1: has in breaks the potential playing on special teams this season.
Speaker 1: They're putting him in special teams. They're splitting his reps
Speaker 1: with with Khalil Herbert, who I know Ericson likes better
Speaker 1: than David Montgomery. And that's fine, or at least Ericson
Speaker 1: says he fits this system that Aberflus is gonna and
Speaker 1: Getty are gonna run in Chicago this year. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, special team traps in Montgomery saying whatever they
Speaker 1: need me to do, I'm gonna be ready to be there.
Speaker 1: I've never really played special teams before, but I'm always
Speaker 1: down and excited to learn so I can be better.
Speaker 1: That is crazy to me. I just don't see why
Speaker 1: you take a guy like it has been working, you know,
Speaker 1: so don't try to fix something that has been working.
Speaker 1: New coaching staff, they not beholden to anyone on this roster.
Speaker 1: They seem to like Herbert just as much. But I
Speaker 1: really feel feelin swindled a little bit by Aberflus and
Speaker 1: and you know, just he's turning into Pete Carroll. You
Speaker 1: can't trust anything the guy says, because he's gonna talk
Speaker 1: talk up somebody and then give his job away. So
Speaker 1: and also, you know they're not making a lot of
Speaker 1: great moves towards getting new free agents when they're trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, trick Roquant Smith into signing a bad deal
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have an agent. That was I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys saw that, but the Bears put
Speaker 1: d escalators in his contract offer, which is just not
Speaker 1: something that is done. So, you know, David Montgomery has
Speaker 1: to take a hit here. I don't think he's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, go the way of the Dodo like Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards layer and be not existent after this season, but
Speaker 1: he definitely needs to be on a different team to
Speaker 1: put up the numbers that he was the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, even on a bad Chicago team. So, Shane,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Dave Montgomery moving forward? Here?
Speaker 1: It hurts. I'll say that the whole special teams thing,
Speaker 1: like I just usually, you know, I play off practice
Speaker 1: reports because you're like, oh, well, that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: He practiced with the twos one day. Yeah, he might
Speaker 1: have practiced with the threes. Practicing on special teams like that.
Speaker 1: They you don't do that, is, like you said, you
Speaker 1: don't do that as a starting NFL running back. And
Speaker 1: if there's any decrease in his volume, well then he's
Speaker 1: dead because that's all he is is volume. That's what
Speaker 1: we need. The guy had two hundred and seventy touches
Speaker 1: last year in thirteen games. Like, he's just a volume guy.
Speaker 1: He's not efficient. You know, he's gonna get you maybe
Speaker 1: four yards of carry if you're lucky, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: you fifty to sixty receptions and not do much with him.
Speaker 1: But you know PPR points and if he's not on
Speaker 1: the field, that he's losing carries to Herbert and maybe
Speaker 1: even Tristan ed Edner as if that's the guy's name.
Speaker 1: I think that's his name. But if he's losing touches
Speaker 1: to anyone, basically it's gonna basically crush his production because
Speaker 1: he's a volume back. That's what you need from him,
Speaker 1: lots and lots of volume, and if he's not getting it,
Speaker 1: then he's not going to be able to produce. And
Speaker 1: that hurts my heart because I love David Montgomery, but
Speaker 1: it's not looking great for him. To be honest with you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, fits, what do you think of Montgomery? This
Speaker 1: is your chan has to kick the bears while they're down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Montgomery, a high effort player, versatile skill set,
Speaker 1: but you know, as Shane said, he's not really efficient.
Speaker 1: Um it's nice that he can catch passes. It's nice
Speaker 1: that he can like he's I think he's pretty good
Speaker 1: in traffic. He can break a tackle, he can you know,
Speaker 1: he seems to do well in tight quarters. But then
Speaker 1: there's Kansas say, right, yeah, there's a spot for him
Speaker 1: in a committee somewhere, I think after his Bears career.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, anyone buying the workhorse running back
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty one is going to be disappointed. And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, man, Like I get the feeling that the
Speaker 1: new regime is really trying to uh you know, get
Speaker 1: the stink of the Ryan pace you know situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just but I don't know, man, maybe the Bears
Speaker 1: are gonna stop hiring GM's named Ryan because I don't
Speaker 1: know if Ryan Pauls is any better right now with
Speaker 1: the draft that he just had. So I look too,
Speaker 1: with that contract to roque One, I mean, why are
Speaker 1: the free agents gonna want to go there if you're
Speaker 1: just gonna waste their time and they're stuck because by
Speaker 1: the way, who feels like they're just you know, my guy,
Speaker 1: Peter Bukowski is like a Packers Twitter guy and podcast host.
Speaker 1: It's like who's who thinks they're one piece away? And
Speaker 1: the pieces like an off the ball linebacker. Oh and
Speaker 1: you've got to give up assets to get this guy,
Speaker 1: like and then pay them a lot of money, Like
Speaker 1: it's they're gonna be stuck with this and it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be another thing where you know, bad blood, kind
Speaker 1: of like Alan Robinson when they franchise tagged him last
Speaker 1: year and he was unhappy all season, and you know
Speaker 1: maybe that contributed to by far, the worst year of
Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, yeah, you get you get less effort
Speaker 1: from those guys when they feel like they're not appreciated.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just a bad look. Shane, who is number
Speaker 1: three for you? I'm putting my box and gloves on.
Speaker 1: Oh this is fun. Um. Yeah. Now I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just being all hot takyu for the sake of
Speaker 1: being hot taking and I promise you I'm not all right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Javante Williams running back? What are we looking at? Three?
Speaker 1: In ECR? No? I can't be that high. Come on,
Speaker 1: he's not, I believe it. I think he's three for me, nasty. Look,
Speaker 1: I'll look while you're talking. He is three. Um, I
Speaker 1: just want to note that mostly that's Joe Pazipe his
Speaker 1: fault for ranking him at two. Otherwise he'd be closer
Speaker 1: to four. Either way, I'm not paying either of those
Speaker 1: prices for him. Now, part of this, I need everyone
Speaker 1: to understand how I play dynasty football. I don't believe
Speaker 1: in running backs as um players that you ever acquire
Speaker 1: on purpose. Um, you kind of get them in rookie
Speaker 1: drafts and you trade form when they're old. Um, that's
Speaker 1: what I like to do and get them off the
Speaker 1: way for while. So just know that. But part of
Speaker 1: it again is he hasn't earned his ranking. Um, he's
Speaker 1: never he had two hundred and forty six touches last year.
Speaker 1: He's never been a bellcal he wasn't a bell call
Speaker 1: in college. He shared the backfield. Um. It was fun
Speaker 1: um this offseason or last week when everyone was saying
Speaker 1: that he was getting ninety percent of the touches to
Speaker 1: ten percent of Melvin Gordon's and then someone famous came
Speaker 1: out and tweeted I don't remember who, but basically maybe him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, guys, it's it's been fifty fifty. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking. I heard seventy thirty
Speaker 1: from Cecil Lammy, I heard seventy thirty. I heard, Uh,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. The guys get a lot of weird
Speaker 1: numbers thrown out. Yeah, there's just a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: thrown out. And look, I know they didn't pay Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon a lot um, they still brought him back. I
Speaker 1: just I have the feeling, and again, it's just a
Speaker 1: feeling that Javanta Williams is not going to ever be
Speaker 1: a guy that gets three hundred opportunities in the season. Now,
Speaker 1: if he does, he probably will be the running back
Speaker 1: three and I'll have to eat crow um, which is fine, um.
Speaker 1: But I just I don't see that happening. I really don't,
Speaker 1: not not with Russ Wilson. To be quite honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think Russ is going to be thrown a lot,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna be thrown a lot
Speaker 1: to the backs, at least not at an offensive rate. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's got a good wider
Speaker 1: she recorder there apparently great tight ends and Alberto and
Speaker 1: Greg Dulcich. I just I don't see Javonte Williams paying
Speaker 1: off at running back three. And if I don't see
Speaker 1: a running back hitting that peak, I'm gonna sell high
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do my same thing. I'm gonna pivot
Speaker 1: for another running back that I think can give me
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the production and try to get a pick.
Speaker 1: I actually did look up a trade on the trade
Speaker 1: finder for one of the sites I write for, and
Speaker 1: I saw a trade that I would slam dunk except
Speaker 1: someone traded Javontay Williams for Garrett Wilson and a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three first. That is a trade I would make
Speaker 1: every day of every night. I would. I would take
Speaker 1: over other people's teams to make that trade. Like I
Speaker 1: just that's just me. And again, his talent, I think
Speaker 1: he's very talented, although he was only like twenty eighth
Speaker 1: and Fantasy points per opportunity last year, which isn't that impressive.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think he's good. I just don't
Speaker 1: think he's elite. And look, I'm I'm on Joe p zapside.
Speaker 1: I have him at running back for I'm a little surprised.
Speaker 1: I thought I was high on him, but I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not even at consensus with Jane because I love
Speaker 1: him for this year too. I think he's, you know,
Speaker 1: borderline first round pick. You don't have to take him there.
Speaker 1: I believe his zz artist like sixteen for drafts this season.
Speaker 1: But um, you're right. Look, this is this is one
Speaker 1: of those rare scenarios. Maybe not rare, but where I
Speaker 1: understand and appreciate Shane's logic. On Javonte Williams. You know,
Speaker 1: he had Michael Carter at North Carolina last year, his
Speaker 1: first year in the NFL, he had Melvin Gordon with him.
Speaker 1: The whole reason I'm in on Javonte Williams is because
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon was not part of the Broncos plan at
Speaker 1: all at running back. They let him become a free agent.
Speaker 1: He's a free agent for two months. He was that
Speaker 1: close to signing with the Baltimore Ravens in April and
Speaker 1: he would have just been gone. He sided back with
Speaker 1: the Broncos two days before the NFL Draft because they
Speaker 1: didn't want to draft any of these running backs. They said, well,
Speaker 1: if we could just bring back the vet who was
Speaker 1: here last year, let's do that. And you know it's
Speaker 1: funny because I was reading those reports from Cecil Lammy,
Speaker 1: you know, and he said the first five days, five
Speaker 1: of the first six days, all the first reps went
Speaker 1: to Javanta. Melvin Gordon's on the second team, but those
Speaker 1: last like the last week, Melvin Gordon got a big
Speaker 1: heap of these first team reps. So to me, that's
Speaker 1: just like, hey, we want both these running backs to
Speaker 1: learn the system. Right, It's not really about who's getting
Speaker 1: the reps under a first year head coach. It's that
Speaker 1: everybody gets reps. So I think that's more important. So
Speaker 1: for me, I still think this is going to be
Speaker 1: a Javante, you know, seventy thirty split. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get most of it. This is gonna be his
Speaker 1: first time he's getting a big workload, which is you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little dicey. You know, he could go in
Speaker 1: it and be one of these upper level running backs,
Speaker 1: so we didn't expect him to be. Or he could
Speaker 1: be a guy that just absolutely cannot handle that giant
Speaker 1: of a workload like Rashot Penny. You know, you try
Speaker 1: to give Rashot Penny a workload who will talk about
Speaker 1: in the second here, and then he goes down immediately.
Speaker 1: But Fitzy, your thoughts on Javante as the tiebreaker here,
Speaker 1: because I think both thought processes are valid. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of comes down to a gut feeling here. So
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be really good based on
Speaker 1: what we've seen, although I'm not, you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure that he's going to be a perennial RB
Speaker 1: one type. And you know, for the workload, I think
Speaker 1: it sixty forty is probably, like I kind of doubt
Speaker 1: we see seventy three. We just don't see splits that
Speaker 1: big in anything that's even approaching a convention. Seventy thirty
Speaker 1: is like Dalvin Madison, Dalvin Cook, Alexander Madison. So I
Speaker 1: don't think we're going to see that. But what Shane
Speaker 1: said is so right about how YEH like his value now,
Speaker 1: in part because he hasn't had that role yet, Like
Speaker 1: he is like the expensive car that's on the lot.
Speaker 1: As soon as that car goes off the lot, it's
Speaker 1: gonna lose twenty to thirty percent of its value. Right now,
Speaker 1: everyone is just like they can imagine themselves driving this
Speaker 1: new car that you know they're gonna have for the
Speaker 1: inevitable workhorse role that they think Javant is gonna wind
Speaker 1: up in some day. But what if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: or what if it's not as good as people think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be when it actually happens. What if it
Speaker 1: winds up some Nick Chubb scenario where he's always sharing
Speaker 1: with someone, he's always got someone driving in the sidecar
Speaker 1: next to him. So we just don't know. And I agree,
Speaker 1: like if you can get that sort of price for him.
Speaker 1: And I don't disagree with Jame's overall philosophy on running
Speaker 1: backs either. Yeah, look, that's a good point if you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss miss on a running back because they ain't
Speaker 1: gonna last long anyway for the most part. So that
Speaker 1: is a good thought process. Fitzee, who's your your third
Speaker 1: player you're selling high on? Yeah, man, So Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: And it pains me to say it. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy's been just money in the bank, eighth for eight
Speaker 1: with a thousand yard seasons eight years, eight thousand yard seasons,
Speaker 1: has average nine touchdowns this season. I'm not just saying
Speaker 1: it because of age. He turns twenty nine, I think
Speaker 1: this month, and like I think here going to say that,
Speaker 1: like big receivers don't necessarily age well because of AJ
Speaker 1: Green or anything like that. But there's one thing that
Speaker 1: kind of worries me about the last couple of years
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans, and I wonder about his ability to
Speaker 1: command targets. Over his first six years, he averaged nine
Speaker 1: point two seven targets a game. Over the last two
Speaker 1: years six point nine and six targets a game. And
Speaker 1: you know, if he's getting a smaller target share and
Speaker 1: and aging and presumably getting you know, less and less separation,
Speaker 1: not that he's ever been a big separator, you know.
Speaker 1: And then there's the whole Brady thing, Like Brady could
Speaker 1: fall off the cliff this year. I doubt Brady's around
Speaker 1: next year, playing at age forty six, and I believe,
Speaker 1: although I'm not sure, like who has a club option
Speaker 1: or player option, but I think he's signed with the
Speaker 1: Bucks for four more years. And you know, we just
Speaker 1: don't know what happens with that quarterback situation post Brady.
Speaker 1: You tell me you don't trust Kyle Trask, Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, I actually kind of do like Kyle Trask,
Speaker 1: but it's just because at Florida he got better every year,
Speaker 1: So I kind of like seeing that stuff. But look,
Speaker 1: I think this is fair, and I think all the
Speaker 1: stuff you didn't want to make points towards are also
Speaker 1: points in your favor. He is a bigger receiver. They
Speaker 1: don't tend to age. Well, you know Tom Brady. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is most likely gone because I think he played till
Speaker 1: he's fifty. I think that's going to end up being
Speaker 1: his goal. But who knows. I mean, I think he
Speaker 1: just wanted to move Bruce Arians out of Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: in the offseason, so who knows. If I was him,
Speaker 1: I'd be going home to j Zel every day. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing playing right now. But
Speaker 1: it's a fair point. Shane Mike Evans, Is this a
Speaker 1: guy that you're down? It's hard. He's been mister consistency,
Speaker 1: But is this more? I mean, you know, like fits
Speaker 1: you said, it's not about age because he's only twenty nine,
Speaker 1: but falling knife, He's gonna fall off at some point here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing about not being about age. It's
Speaker 1: a lot about age for me. So I am an
Speaker 1: ageist in Dynasty as well, because I look at the
Speaker 1: values the spikes, and when they fall off right twenty nine,
Speaker 1: his value is never going to increase. I don't care
Speaker 1: what he does next year. Look at Cooper Cup, because
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup's value what up? I about like three spots
Speaker 1: after last year and he just put up a historic year.
Speaker 1: Do we think Evans is going to do that? I
Speaker 1: don't think that's an Evans range of outcomes because, like Pat,
Speaker 1: note it, he's not getting a high target share. He's
Speaker 1: getting a lot of fantasy points off of touchdowns, which
Speaker 1: that's great, but you know, touch sounds are fluky, as
Speaker 1: we've been told, as we know, if you don't trade
Speaker 1: him now, and that's how I look at it, if
Speaker 1: you don't trade him now for something, what are you
Speaker 1: going to be able to trade it for him next year?
Speaker 1: I mean, this is probably it. If you don't trade
Speaker 1: him now, you're probably just holding them right. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't think his production is going to be high
Speaker 1: enough that he's one of those players that I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with him retiring on my roster and getting
Speaker 1: nothing for him. There's a few wide receivers in this bucket.
Speaker 1: I won't get into other ones like Terry Kill but
Speaker 1: there's guys that are approaching this age where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, now's the time to move them, because
Speaker 1: all it takes is one one more year, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a year older or one flop year, and their
Speaker 1: their value is going to really bother them out. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely on board with moving mister Evans. And
Speaker 1: he hasn't missed a bunch of games recently. I think
Speaker 1: he missed one last year. He didn't miss any in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he missed three in twenty nineteen. But he
Speaker 1: does seem to be nicked up or banged up a lot, so,
Speaker 1: you know, just just slowing down a little bit, which
Speaker 1: is just another piece on the anti Mike Evans a bandwagon,
Speaker 1: which I mean, he's the reason Johnny Manziel won a Heisman.
Speaker 1: But I digress. I'm not even gonna get into that.
Speaker 1: Let's go to my third player here, Rashod Penny coming
Speaker 1: in at Dynasty ECR running Back thirty eight. I kind
Speaker 1: of feel, once again, after hearing who you guys are saying,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I'm not really this isn't
Speaker 1: a hot take at all, but look, I hate the
Speaker 1: Rashod Penny love this year, and it's not I like
Speaker 1: Rashod Penny as a running back. He's a great running back.
Speaker 1: I liked him coming out of San Diego State. I
Speaker 1: will say I was shocked that the Seahawks took him
Speaker 1: in the first round over some other backs too, But
Speaker 1: a first round Rashod Penny was very, very surprising to me.
Speaker 1: But Pete Carroll just doesn't care. He just takes whoever
Speaker 1: he wants, you know. And the big performance at the
Speaker 1: end of last year was eye opening, you know. And
Speaker 1: all the underlying numbers were great. Number one in yards
Speaker 1: after contact per attempt for running backs with the minimum
Speaker 1: of one hundred kerrys. He's fourth in PFF's breakaway yards
Speaker 1: in only ten games. Only Jonathan Taylor and Chubb had
Speaker 1: more breakaway yards than him, and he had the number
Speaker 1: one elusive rating him on running backs with one hundred
Speaker 1: carries or more. But my issue with Penny is it's
Speaker 1: not even Ken Walker. It said he can't stay on
Speaker 1: the field. Over his career, He's dealt with a finger
Speaker 1: fracture and knie strain, a hamstring strain and ACL tear,
Speaker 1: another knee strain, a calf strain, a hamstring strain. He's
Speaker 1: always hurt. He is mister Glass. He cannot stay on
Speaker 1: the field. He's had twenty carries in his career twice.
Speaker 1: They were the last two games of last season. And
Speaker 1: you bring in a workhorse like Kenneth Walker. I think
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker's gonna take a lot of these carries. And
Speaker 1: I don't think Rashad Penny is gonna matter by the
Speaker 1: end of the year because he ain't gonna make it
Speaker 1: to the end of the year like he usually doesn't.
Speaker 1: You know, last year, once again he made it through
Speaker 1: the end of the year, but he couldn't get through
Speaker 1: the front. He only played ten games. His career high
Speaker 1: for carries in the season is one hundred nineteen. So
Speaker 1: there's just other second tier running backs, like you know,
Speaker 1: lot of rookies, Brian Robinson, Damian Pierce for Shad White,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller, Ramandri Stevenson's a VET, Alexander Madison's a vet
Speaker 1: that's going to be a starter for somebody next year
Speaker 1: most likely. I would much rather have those guys than
Speaker 1: have Rashad Penny, and I think for this year those
Speaker 1: are deals for the most part, maybe not Damian Pierce
Speaker 1: anymore because he's getting a lot of love right now.
Speaker 1: But I think for a lot of those other guys,
Speaker 1: you can get that deal done. If you offer Rashad Penny,
Speaker 1: there will be I think there's camps right. You're either
Speaker 1: all in or all out on Rashad Penny. I'm all
Speaker 1: the way out, Shane. What do you think of Penny
Speaker 1: moving forward here? I'm very lukewarm on him. This is
Speaker 1: one of the few players I don't have a strong
Speaker 1: take on. I think Penny's going to be fine for
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. So you get four or
Speaker 1: five weeks in twenty twenty two and you're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really happy that I have him on my team
Speaker 1: and I didn't trade him for Brian Robinson. And then
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life or a year or two,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, I should have traded him for
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. When Brian Robertson is stolen Antonio Gibson's job,
Speaker 1: right pat in the week at nine or next year,
Speaker 1: it's I just now, I'm gonna go on a little rant.
Speaker 1: I loved Penny so much coming out of college. The
Speaker 1: dude is so like physically gifted, and when he plays.
Speaker 1: It's just so good. But like you noted twice he's
Speaker 1: at twenty carries in his career. Last two games of
Speaker 1: last year were the first time he had twenty carries
Speaker 1: in a game. Yeah. Now, sadly, I'm out on mister Penny.
Speaker 1: I loved Penny, but like, dude, if you can't stay
Speaker 1: on the football field, he's just not durable. I know
Speaker 1: injury prone isn't a thing. People will tell you that,
Speaker 1: but um, people tell you that injury prone is not
Speaker 1: a thing. But I'll say this, he's not durable. I
Speaker 1: used someone I heard someone else use that word today,
Speaker 1: so I liked it because it sounds less worse than
Speaker 1: injury prone. He's not durable. And Kenneth Walker. I think
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is good enough to be the starter from
Speaker 1: week one, to be quite honest with you, and leave
Speaker 1: shot Penny basically with nothing, and then you get nothing
Speaker 1: out of the guy, and it's like, wow, I really
Speaker 1: should have moved him. So I'm gonna agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't want to agree with you, but obvious Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Shane and I slowly becoming best friends. I'm in sending
Speaker 1: your brain here. Look the training camp stuff hasn't looked
Speaker 1: great because what I saw recently was Penny is getting
Speaker 1: like all the first team snaps and Walker is getting
Speaker 1: second team snaps. And I don't care. It's the slow death,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the fact that this guy cannot stay
Speaker 1: on the field. The old scouting take on this would
Speaker 1: be pat availability is the best ability, and Rashad Penny
Speaker 1: doesn't have it. So we've kind of hit Rashot Penny
Speaker 1: on the head. Any more thoughts on him, No, just
Speaker 1: what you said, the fact that he's getting all the
Speaker 1: first team reps, like, use that to sell yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: use that as a selling point because even if he
Speaker 1: gets even if he comes into the year as the
Speaker 1: number one and it's unquestioned, he will not last. Shane,
Speaker 1: who is your last player that you are going to
Speaker 1: be selling high off? So I started with a bang
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of going out with a whimper here.
Speaker 1: You know, Austin knocks. I am vehemently opposed to him
Speaker 1: being ranked anywhere within the top twelve dynasty tight ends.
Speaker 1: I think he has absolutely no business being there. He
Speaker 1: does one thing really well. He scores touchdowns, right, So
Speaker 1: he had thirty three point three percent of his fantasy
Speaker 1: points were scored on touchdowns last year, and you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, but he's a tight end. That kind of happens, right.
Speaker 1: Next closest guy was someone that we might talk about
Speaker 1: later on now, Dalton Schultz at twenty two percent. He
Speaker 1: just he's touchdowns in it. That's it. Like the dude
Speaker 1: had forty seven receptions last year. I might be a
Speaker 1: little off on that. His touchdown rate was just ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like eighteen percent, Like, you can't do that. It doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: It's impossible, especially when he had five touchdowns over his
Speaker 1: first two seasons. You don't all of a sudden just
Speaker 1: become a guy that's going to score ten touchdowns a year,
Speaker 1: unless you're Davante Adams and you're targeting in the end
Speaker 1: zone thirty six times a year, or from you know,
Speaker 1: by Aaron Rodgers. He's just not that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say good, that seems mean because he's better than me.
Speaker 1: I'll say that he's a lot better than me. If
Speaker 1: I was out there running routes like he's crushing me,
Speaker 1: I would I would no separation and I would scored
Speaker 1: no touchdowns. But his scoring was all touchdowns. His target
Speaker 1: rate was the I looked it up. Sorry, his positionally,
Speaker 1: his target share of eleven point four percent ranked twenty
Speaker 1: third in the league. His target share was lower than c.
Speaker 1: J Uzoma, who had games where he was targeted twice
Speaker 1: and scored three touchdowns. I'm not sure how he did that,
Speaker 1: but he did. You're drafting him at his seeing even
Speaker 1: at tight end eleven and I don't think he ever
Speaker 1: sees that again. And look, this was we had a
Speaker 1: show like this a couple weeks ago, and I decided
Speaker 1: between Hunter Henry and Dawson Knox because they both scored
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. I think a weird crazy sat on Dawson
Speaker 1: Knox zero touchdowns in college, didn't score one, and so
Speaker 1: he's kind of this is a touchdown regression thing. He's
Speaker 1: making up for it in the pros. The reason that
Speaker 1: I picked Hunter Henry over Dawson Knox is a tight
Speaker 1: end I didn't like, was because, I mean, which offense
Speaker 1: is gonna is more likely to give their tight end
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns? I think it is Buffalo. But these points
Speaker 1: you make are very very valid. Forty nine catches. By
Speaker 1: the way, you were a couple off, but still, you
Speaker 1: know a nine of those were touchdowns fits. You know,
Speaker 1: touchdowns are finicky and it's just hard to rely on
Speaker 1: them from year to year, right, Yeah, I mean, at
Speaker 1: least Knox is athletic, and maybe we could blame the
Speaker 1: target chair on what didn't have a broken thumb last
Speaker 1: year that he was dealing with for a while and
Speaker 1: thinking knocks him out of his hands And yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember your talking hand? Was that what it was? So? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't know if I can squint
Speaker 1: and see Travis Kelsey upside with Dawson Knox, but maybe
Speaker 1: I can see him growing a little bit with Josh
Speaker 1: Allen and maybe growing that target chair a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know. I just I can't like disagree with Shane
Speaker 1: too much. And yet you know, the tight end on
Speaker 1: my list, I would trade the tight end on my
Speaker 1: list for Dawson Knox. So let's hear the tight end
Speaker 1: on your list, Fitzy, who is your last so high player? Well,
Speaker 1: mister Minilla just mentioned him. It's Dalton Schultz. And if
Speaker 1: you just fell into this guy like cash in now.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is with like Amari Cooper leaving
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup hurts and James Washington hurt like the
Speaker 1: red light is still on because people are talking themselves
Speaker 1: into Dalton Schultz having another great season. But like, athletically,
Speaker 1: this guy is so ordinary. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: just totally circumstantial that he's producing kind of because he
Speaker 1: asked you, and you look at the efficiency numbers and
Speaker 1: they're just kind of average. And and Shane can appreciate
Speaker 1: this because he knows how good the twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: class is going to be. I was looking at recent
Speaker 1: DYNA DLF trades involving Dalton Schultz and one of them
Speaker 1: was Schultz plus a twenty twenty three third rounder for
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty three first rounder, And exactly that's another case,
Speaker 1: Like Shane said, I want to I want to take
Speaker 1: that fantasy team over just so I can have that
Speaker 1: pig take advantage of that trade. So um yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I just like I don't think this is a lasting
Speaker 1: thing with Dalton Schultz, Like get out now. So you're
Speaker 1: saying that Shane might be the same athletically as Dalton Schultz, right,
Speaker 1: Like we can agree that a little. That's a little closer, yes,
Speaker 1: but maybe he is. I'm gonna have to step on
Speaker 1: the flag football field at the FX bow line up
Speaker 1: at the tight end. Um, definitely a move tight end. Um, No,
Speaker 1: it's Shultz. So and you know when I was talking
Speaker 1: about Cede Lamb, I thought the same thing, right, like
Speaker 1: those I don't like Schultz either, right, because I think again,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's more opportunity, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's going to score at the same rate that he
Speaker 1: did last year. But then I look at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and I go, wait a minute. All they have is
Speaker 1: City Lamb and Dalton Schultz. So one of these two
Speaker 1: has got to eat, if not both of them, right,
Speaker 1: how dare you? Jaylen Tilbert? How dare you? H? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And James Washington's only out for what sixty eight six
Speaker 1: to ten weeks? And Michael Gallup will be back at
Speaker 1: some point yea, for those like first six weeks, I
Speaker 1: think Schultz and Lamb, one of them is going to
Speaker 1: have to just go bonkers, if not both of them.
Speaker 1: But I don't like Schultz. I don't like any tight
Speaker 1: end in that range. Those are the tight ends that
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to sell if someone likes them better.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna agree with Pat there. But definitely the
Speaker 1: first few weeks I think me and Pat are gonna
Speaker 1: look silly with our CD LAMB and Dalton Schultz takes here. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I'm in agreement here and I like Dalton Schultz, but
Speaker 1: there's only so much that big Stanford brain can get you.
Speaker 1: It got you a good season this year might be nice,
Speaker 1: you know what, the time to sell if you don't
Speaker 1: sell Schultz before this season, if he does get just
Speaker 1: an insane target share because of all these injuries, Like
Speaker 1: Shane mentioned, next year might be the time to really
Speaker 1: sell him if he has a huge year, because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, just athletically, he is not going to be
Speaker 1: there in a couple seasons. My last one was simply
Speaker 1: to poke at Shane. Here it's Brandon Cooks because I
Speaker 1: mentioned before how much I love John Metchi and I
Speaker 1: just wasn't buying in that much on Brandon Cooks. So
Speaker 1: this is basically poking. I just think we're gonna be
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Cooks is a little overrated. Look in Houston,
Speaker 1: he's going to be you know, he's gonna be riding
Speaker 1: with a rough QB. I don't think David's Mills is
Speaker 1: a long term answer. I don't think Lovey is the
Speaker 1: long term answer at head coach here either. So this
Speaker 1: is a franchise in hole that is kind of in flux.
Speaker 1: So he's just not my favorite player to draft. He's
Speaker 1: been traded too many times, which kind of gives you
Speaker 1: questions as a teammate, but his fantasy production has been solid,
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm waiting for him to fall so
Speaker 1: I can say I told you so, probably not going
Speaker 1: to be this year. Nico Collins is your number two.
Speaker 1: John Metchi, who we thought we're gonna get at some point,
Speaker 1: obviously dealing with leukemia, very very sad. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many wide receivers coming out in this draft,
Speaker 1: and you just look at every wide receiver class to
Speaker 1: get get better and better every year in terms of depth.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's not always a Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase or Ceedee Lamb or Justin Jefferson at the very top,
Speaker 1: but the depth of a lot of these wide receiver
Speaker 1: classes just keep getting better. He's turning thirty this season.
Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna be on the down slope,
Speaker 1: and right now today is the time to sell high.
Speaker 1: So Shane and we'll start with you, since I did
Speaker 1: this one to poke at you here, so tell me
Speaker 1: why I'm wrong on Brandon Cook's fallen off. I absolutely
Speaker 1: hate this one. Brandon Cooks has been a nowhorse than
Speaker 1: a wide receiver too in seven of his eight seasons.
Speaker 1: And yes, he does get traded a lot, keeps producing,
Speaker 1: he does keep producing. And part of my problem with
Speaker 1: him is that no one wants to trade for him,
Speaker 1: like he's not a player that he feels like Robert,
Speaker 1: Like he's almost the same type player Robert Woods was
Speaker 1: a little higher upside when he was in LA. But
Speaker 1: no one. Every year people are like, Brandon Cooks, I
Speaker 1: don't want him, and you're like, all right, but he's
Speaker 1: a wife. It might be league specific for leagues with shame,
Speaker 1: so no, just every year, I look, I'm in way
Speaker 1: too many leagues, so I get a little bit of
Speaker 1: a pulse. No one ever wants to buy him, and
Speaker 1: you can always get him cheap, and it seems like
Speaker 1: every season in season you can get him for a
Speaker 1: random rookie second and you know, look, he's not going
Speaker 1: to give you a bunch of wide receiver one weeks,
Speaker 1: but he's going to give you a wide receiver two weeks.
Speaker 1: Just about every week he's out there, So I just
Speaker 1: I like him that even with a bad quarterback, I'm
Speaker 1: one of those people that believes you earned targets. And
Speaker 1: if it's even from a bad quarterback like Davis Mills,
Speaker 1: if you're hitting the twenty seven percent target share, you're
Speaker 1: probably going to be okay. I think last year is
Speaker 1: probably the floor we saw with Mills, and like you said,
Speaker 1: they don't have MATCHI who would have been some competition
Speaker 1: for targets this year would have been legitimate competition. I
Speaker 1: don't know who's there now. Nico Collins. Nicol Collins is
Speaker 1: the number two right now, good in camp and he's
Speaker 1: a size guy, though he's not Yea. So Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: is gonna still put up a wide receiver eighteen season.
Speaker 1: Next year, You're never going to be able to trade
Speaker 1: him more anything more than a second, a rookie second um. Now,
Speaker 1: if you could trade him for say Leonard Fournette, because
Speaker 1: you know you're you're trying to build your roster. You
Speaker 1: built your roster in a way that you need a
Speaker 1: running back and your flush at wide receiver, I'd like that.
Speaker 1: I'd like to pivot to another position if I could.
Speaker 1: In a similar range, I'm just glad that I got
Speaker 1: Shane to say who he might trade Brandon Cooks for,
Speaker 1: so because with my John Metchie Love on the last show,
Speaker 1: Shane was very offended that I just rolled over Brandon,
Speaker 1: Like where's Brandon Cook's going? Though? You know? So I
Speaker 1: love it? Uh, Fitzy, is it the same? You have
Speaker 1: the same thoughts as Shane, Like you would want to
Speaker 1: trade him, but it's just nobody wants him. He's not
Speaker 1: he's not a sexy player, so it's hard to trade
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't have a little bit of sex appeal.
Speaker 1: There's just not a lot of upside on Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: because of this offense. Right, That's exactly it. That's why
Speaker 1: he's a hold for me. And you just can't sell
Speaker 1: him for that much. And yet like I just keeps
Speaker 1: maintaining his value. You know, he used that car drive
Speaker 1: it off the lot, analogy, like Cooks is the car
Speaker 1: that just you know, you can drive for like my
Speaker 1: wife's Toyota that she's had for like two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: some miles and it just like, yeah, it just keeps going.
Speaker 1: So maybe cook is gonna Cooks is gonna be like that.
Speaker 1: You just kind of ride it until you know falling
Speaker 1: off and exactly, Yeah, I understand that. So this is
Speaker 1: more of a fun one. I just want to see
Speaker 1: what Shane's reaction was to Brandon Cooks. But I also
Speaker 1: would trade him. I do think he's gonna be moving
Speaker 1: down after this season. But you can find him on
Speaker 1: the Twitter at Shane is the worst. Shane, what is
Speaker 1: coming up for you? Tell everyone where they can find
Speaker 1: all your great work and what you'll be doing leading
Speaker 1: up to the start of the season here, writing, podcasting, youtubeing. Uh,
Speaker 1: just go to my Twitter. I got linked everything I'm on.
Speaker 1: I didn't mentioned Fantasy Intervention on Wednesday Nights with my
Speaker 1: buddy Jacob and Chase Jacob, who was just on pat
Speaker 1: show not that long ago. Chasey was just on your
Speaker 1: show two weeks ago. If I'm keeping on my pods
Speaker 1: in order, so don't forget to check us out Wednesday
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff, great self app that's underscore app
Speaker 1: on the tourn machine for Fitzy. Fitzy what he got
Speaker 1: coming up outside of the Fantasy football exbo that I'm jealous.
Speaker 1: I will that's it. Yeah, I mean, we've been working
Speaker 1: so hard cranking on content in August such an insanely
Speaker 1: busy month, so it's gonna be great to get away
Speaker 1: and drink beer with Shane and uh, you know, watch
Speaker 1: people play flag football and sprain quads and pull hamstrings
Speaker 1: and everything. So you're gonna coach you, You're gonna drop
Speaker 1: some plays on the Oh yeah, that's that's it. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna sit in the bleachers and with a hope
Speaker 1: that no one seriously injures themselves. Yeah. Follow me on
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