Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. It's a Fantasy pros Dynasty Fantasy football
Speaker 1: podcast brought to you by Reality Sports Online. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Scott Bogman. Follow me on the Twitter at Bogman Sports,
Speaker 1: Joined as always by the incomparable Pat Fitzmorris at fits
Speaker 1: Underscore f f Fitzy. It's a it's a family show today,
Speaker 1: just you and me. We're gonna be answering some listener
Speaker 1: questions that you called upon for on Twitter the other day.
Speaker 1: But how is your weekend and how um, how are
Speaker 1: you liking, how the Packers are looking and anything any
Speaker 1: other takes from the preseason here. Oh it was good, buddy.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. So man, it seems like every night now
Speaker 1: every day they're podcasts every night, their podcasts every day
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Speaker 1: to re orient myself and look at the calendar, like
Speaker 1: what do I have, oh, auction podcast? So it's just
Speaker 1: the crazy time here and think about it, man, for redraft,
Speaker 1: like we're getting I think probably over half the home
Speaker 1: link drafts are probably in the next ten days right
Speaker 1: like this is this is peak home draft season. I think,
Speaker 1: like you know, probably seventy five percent of them are
Speaker 1: in the books by Labor Day weekend, and it's like
Speaker 1: we prep for this all year, man, and it's all
Speaker 1: kind of coming down. So but I'm I'm fired up
Speaker 1: about it, and I'm fired up about this show bogs.
Speaker 1: Like I put out the bat signal four questions, Dynasty questions. Man,
Speaker 1: we got some good ones. Yeah, I'm fired up to
Speaker 1: dig in because like this is you know, we talk
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Speaker 1: on anything here. So, Fitz, we're gonna run through these questions.
Speaker 1: The first one that we have here is from our
Speaker 1: guy David E and he says, if you could take
Speaker 1: your twenty twenty three second or twenty twenty three third
Speaker 1: and flip it for a play that you think another
Speaker 1: owner may accept, who would that player be? One choice
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, one choice at RB. I like these
Speaker 1: are very pointed, you know, I like that question. So
Speaker 1: what do you like in terms of you know, the
Speaker 1: picks are always worth more now than when you get
Speaker 1: to the draft almost always, I guess I shouldn't say always,
Speaker 1: but it's the what's behind door? Number two? You know,
Speaker 1: behind what is established or what we've seen. But the
Speaker 1: thing is is that guys coming into the NFL aren't
Speaker 1: finished products. No player comes into the NFL as a
Speaker 1: finished product. So it may take a year, two years,
Speaker 1: three years to develop a player. So I think that's
Speaker 1: what we're looking at fits here. We're looking for a
Speaker 1: guy whose value is low now that during the season.
Speaker 1: Could you know, Pole Vault, who are those guys for
Speaker 1: you that you would trade a future pick for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: David E like knocked it out of the park with
Speaker 1: this question, because like I had to put more thought
Speaker 1: into this one than I think any of the other ones,
Speaker 1: because not only as you mentioned Bogs, like how we
Speaker 1: value those picks now, especially with what we know to
Speaker 1: be what we think is going to be a super class.
Speaker 1: So number one, it has to be someone like we
Speaker 1: want more than this unknown second rounder or third rounders,
Speaker 1: like someone we're excited about, yet someone who is attainable.
Speaker 1: So not many guys fit that list, and I kind
Speaker 1: of had to ponder this. So like, let's say we're
Speaker 1: talking about somewhere in the later part of the second round,
Speaker 1: maybe early part of the third round. Okay, at running back,
Speaker 1: one guy thought of was maybe Romandra Stevenson, Like for
Speaker 1: a mid second rounder. You know those picks are going
Speaker 1: to be valuable next year, and Stevenson is certainly a
Speaker 1: guy who could have value this year. I think a
Speaker 1: mid second for m Stevenson is pretty fair. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone is really chomping at the bid
Speaker 1: to get rid of Romandra right now since he's there's
Speaker 1: a little buzzers. Yeah, definitely some buzz about him. That's one.
Speaker 1: If we get into the third round, I don't know
Speaker 1: would you give up What would you want like three
Speaker 1: oh one in next year's draft or Michael Carter. I
Speaker 1: think I would want Michael Carter because I think when
Speaker 1: you get down to the third round, there's not there's
Speaker 1: usually not that value. I mean sometimes there is. When
Speaker 1: you guys draft immediately after the NFL Draft happens, it
Speaker 1: does prevent it does present value for players. I did
Speaker 1: talk to someone on our stages this week for my
Speaker 1: AMA and someone said, we have a rookie draft coming up.
Speaker 1: And I said, wait a minute. You haven't done your
Speaker 1: rookie draft yet. He said, no, we always wait, And
Speaker 1: I said, God, bless you. I think you're the only
Speaker 1: one that I've ever heard of that waits. So but
Speaker 1: I think Carter, you know, right now, it looks like
Speaker 1: the lead back with the Jets. Now we both you
Speaker 1: and I both fits. I'll speak for you in this.
Speaker 1: Don't project him to be the lead back by the
Speaker 1: end of the season. We do think he'll be two.
Speaker 1: But two in a system like this, a Shanahan Lafleur
Speaker 1: type of running system where these guys are going to
Speaker 1: use two backs, is a very valuable piece. So I
Speaker 1: think Michael Carter is almost a perfect poll for one
Speaker 1: of those types of trades because I do think in
Speaker 1: certain scenarios you can get that done. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: is kind of nice that, you know, Salah and the
Speaker 1: rest of the Jets staff are showing sort of this
Speaker 1: veteran deference to Carter, even though he's only played one
Speaker 1: year in the league, that they like what he did
Speaker 1: for them enough that and that's a guy I would
Speaker 1: have had a lot of this year, I think in redraft,
Speaker 1: had he not been suddenly relegated to backup or at
Speaker 1: least we think he's going to be a backup behind
Speaker 1: Bree Saw. But like, Carter still has dynasty value because
Speaker 1: he's got that nice, versatile skill set. Like at worst,
Speaker 1: I think he turns into a Niheim Heinz type. And like,
Speaker 1: who do you think about c Fits? Do do you
Speaker 1: think CCH would be gettable with that? Maybe that second rounder? Um,
Speaker 1: And you know it's the third year. Sometimes we see
Speaker 1: that turnaround in the third year. And that's a good
Speaker 1: offense to have a piece of. If I'm the guy
Speaker 1: holding CECH and you're offering me a two in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft, we have a deal. I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I'll take that pick and give you CCH because you
Speaker 1: know I'm not a big ch guy, so I definitely
Speaker 1: take that pick. But that's the kind of player we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, that's hard on you know, someone whose
Speaker 1: value is low, that there's not a lot of perceived
Speaker 1: value one, especially when smart minds like Fits are saying
Speaker 1: I don't even want that guy for a future second rounder. Um,
Speaker 1: you know that it's a possibility. Now that's a gamble.
Speaker 1: You probably have to be pretty set at everything else
Speaker 1: to take a gamble like that. But now tell me
Speaker 1: box for for wide receiver. Let me let me give
Speaker 1: you three wide receivers and you tell me approximately what
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty three rookie draft. You would
Speaker 1: be willing to part with for any of these guys? Okay,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. I you would have to give me at
Speaker 1: least a second to get Christian Kirk right now. Um,
Speaker 1: so I think a two would get that deal done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a mid amid second rounder. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: mid to late uh, you know, the earlier you're picking
Speaker 1: in that second round. Because this is supposed to be
Speaker 1: a good draft class here we have now, things happen,
Speaker 1: it doesn't always break the way that we think. You know,
Speaker 1: injuries could happen, bad play can happen. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: this time last season, fits Spencer Rattler was at the
Speaker 1: number one spot of everybody's boards. Right now it's c J.
Speaker 1: Strout and and Bryce Young and we expect those guys
Speaker 1: to stick be Jean Robinson and running back you know,
Speaker 1: um a lot of good White House next year, Jack
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba being number one on most people's
Speaker 1: boards at this point. But um, you know so many
Speaker 1: qbs two in a super reflects. Yeah. I think maybe
Speaker 1: not early second, but mid second I would do that deal.
Speaker 1: What about Rondale Moore? I don't want Randal Moore. He
Speaker 1: I know he's your guy, and he's fine, but we're
Speaker 1: talking undersized guy in a Cardinals offense that spreads it
Speaker 1: wide and constantly has a bunch of white outs. And
Speaker 1: there are Hopkins and Brown and Arts are just ahead
Speaker 1: of him in the pecking order, and I think Trey
Speaker 1: McBride will be ahead of him in the pecking order
Speaker 1: next year as well. He's got a chance. So a
Speaker 1: third isn't bad, But I don't think I would do it. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I like him enough where I think i'd deal like
Speaker 1: a three H two or three H three for him
Speaker 1: U But of course you don't know where you're picking
Speaker 1: before the season, so it's it's hard to pin that
Speaker 1: spot down. But um, I guess I would give up
Speaker 1: a third for him, but not a second. What about
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley? A third? We've talked about him a little bit. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a third A third apt best, you know, because I'm
Speaker 1: not we talked about this fits. I'm not holy convinced
Speaker 1: he is in love with football and wants to play again,
Speaker 1: right so you know, he obviously left the Falcons middle
Speaker 1: of the year last year. Then he had the big
Speaker 1: blunder the gambling thing, which is just you know, I
Speaker 1: know people don't like the punishment to think it's unfair,
Speaker 1: But the only thing that can ruin the NFL is
Speaker 1: finding out that it's fixed. That's it. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing that can ruin it. So you get a whiff
Speaker 1: of any impropriety anything like that, and guys they tell
Speaker 1: these guys, they hit him over the head with it,
Speaker 1: do not gamble. You don't gamble. It's the most sacred
Speaker 1: rule of all of it, you know, you don't gamble
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing that can bring the NFL down.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm just not sure. I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: want to be acquiring him, But I think a three
Speaker 1: is fair like a two would probably be fair. The
Speaker 1: guy is so talented. He's a very very good wide receiver,
Speaker 1: but he's a little long in the tooth. There's questions
Speaker 1: about his passion. I don't know. I probably wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to mess with Calvin Ridley over. Yeah, it's tough to
Speaker 1: pin down that value. But David E. Great question. Great question, DAVIDY.
Speaker 1: We go on to Steven C. He says, I'm RB
Speaker 1: needy in my one QB full PPR Dynasty League. My
Speaker 1: top guys are Javonte Williams and Chase Edmonds. A guy's
Speaker 1: offering me Nick Chubb for Terry McLaurin and DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: I have Justin Jefferson, Deebo, Samuel Michael Thomas, Jalen Waddle,
Speaker 1: Markus Brown, and Rashad Bateman. Do I trade for the
Speaker 1: twenty six year old nine third down RB or draft
Speaker 1: Cook or Damian Pierce from the ten spot? What do
Speaker 1: you think on this one, FITZI, Yeah, no way am
Speaker 1: I making that trade because you are in a vacuum.
Speaker 1: You're just giving up too much. And I know that
Speaker 1: sometimes the temptation when you are overloaded at a position
Speaker 1: and he is stacked at wide receiver. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: still do not want to give up a big net
Speaker 1: loss like I think McLaurin for Chubb is almost pretty fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair to me too, and half rowing Hopkins, who
Speaker 1: might have another couple of years of of you know,
Speaker 1: at least wide receiver to production. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that's just too much. So I would bite the
Speaker 1: bullet here and draft either a Cook or Pierce, and
Speaker 1: by the way, bogs if if there are rookie drafts
Speaker 1: being held now, is Pierce pretty squarely in the first round? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so, specifically with specifically with the scarcity of
Speaker 1: running backs out of this class. Right, we have the
Speaker 1: top two guys who were still top two. I know,
Speaker 1: Walker's a little bit banged up, and Bruce Hall you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't look like the lock that he was coming in.
Speaker 1: But there's still because you don't have other, you know,
Speaker 1: many other backs. I think they're one and two. Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson also moved up a lot. M Tyler Geer has
Speaker 1: moved up a lot. But Damian Pierce, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: to hear Levy Smith say that Damian Pierce doesn't need
Speaker 1: to play because I know what I have in him.
Speaker 1: And then Marlon Mack and Rex Burkhead, these to year
Speaker 1: vets are playing instead of him, just solidify to me
Speaker 1: that he's the number one running back for them. So
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy he's in that first spot.
Speaker 1: Who are you? Who are you taking first? Pierce or Cook?
Speaker 1: Oh Man? I still like Cook better. I still like
Speaker 1: Cook better, So I think it's still cooked for me overall.
Speaker 1: I just think that, um, you know, and we saw
Speaker 1: he had a little flash in the most recent preseason game.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be muddy this year, but your best player
Speaker 1: eventually is going to get on the field, and in
Speaker 1: that backfield between Singletary, Cook and Moss, it's just not
Speaker 1: close to me that James Cook is the best running
Speaker 1: back of the bunch. Is he a guy that can
Speaker 1: take twenty to twenty five touches a game, No, so
Speaker 1: someone else is gonna have to be sprinkled in. But
Speaker 1: he's a big splash play guy. So if he's getting
Speaker 1: fifteen touches, I'm gonna trust that one of those is
Speaker 1: for a big play or one of those is for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So for me, it's still gonna be James
Speaker 1: Cook because Pierce is more a grinder. The offense is
Speaker 1: so much better long term in Buffalo than it is
Speaker 1: in Houston, too, So still Cook slightly from me there. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's close to a coin flip for me. But I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm a little higher. I don't hate the deal as
Speaker 1: much as you do. Here, I would say that you
Speaker 1: are This is not it's slightly unfair, but you know,
Speaker 1: because you're stacked at wide receiver, I think this is
Speaker 1: a doable trade. Probably, like I'm at least squeezing a
Speaker 1: rookie pick out back. You know, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: a second. You're not gonna get a first trying to
Speaker 1: get a second, I'm trying to get a third. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get whatever a defense, a kicker like if
Speaker 1: he has Justin Tucker or you know, the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: or something good. I'm squeezing something else out because when
Speaker 1: you have a deal like this in place, the guy
Speaker 1: that is dealing for mcclornin Hopkins, he's not going to
Speaker 1: let a second or third round pick hold up this deal,
Speaker 1: you know. So for me, I'm a least squeezing a
Speaker 1: little bit more out, is what I'd say. But the
Speaker 1: the idea of dealing out of your um, your strength
Speaker 1: is very smart, uh, Steven, So I would say a
Speaker 1: deal like this, maybe not this deal specifically. Um. The
Speaker 1: next question here, Fitzy is from our buddy Sinful on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Some of these names are fantastic. I love this one, um,
Speaker 1: and it's just very simple. Who are the receivers to
Speaker 1: own in Cleveland? David Bell? Next question? No, Uh, that
Speaker 1: is that's my choice. That's my guy. You know, I
Speaker 1: like David Bell a lot. Could be you know, poor
Speaker 1: man zan Kwan Bolden. Um. But it's funny, like, I mean, jeez,
Speaker 1: could you get a could you get Amari Cooper for
Speaker 1: a late second and twenty twenty three drafts out? Like
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper's stocks has dropped so far that I'm almost
Speaker 1: like kind of interested if someone's selling in my championship
Speaker 1: window is open, like if I can get him for
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, non first round pick next year.
Speaker 1: And I know maybe you know, since I am a contender,
Speaker 1: that second round pick I'm giving up is not going
Speaker 1: to be in the top half of the second round
Speaker 1: unless things go absolutely haywire for my team. Um, I
Speaker 1: do that, you know, like, uh, there's a reasonable price
Speaker 1: for everyone, and man Cooper's Cooper's price is really dropped,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of it. I'm not a Donovan People's
Speaker 1: Jones guy. I mean, I've got Anthony Schwartz on my
Speaker 1: main Dynasty team, but he's probably like, you know, if
Speaker 1: I have to cut someone to make room for someone else,
Speaker 1: Schwarts is probably the next man up for me. He's fast,
Speaker 1: but we don't know if he can really play, So
Speaker 1: Schwartz could develop into something, but he's he's a long
Speaker 1: term project because because he has Olympic level speed, right
Speaker 1: He's unbelievably fast, but nothing else really comes natural to him. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the traits are there, he needs to be
Speaker 1: rained in a little bit. DPJ has size, but on
Speaker 1: most teams, he's your third or fourth wide receiver. Cooper,
Speaker 1: like you said, is a value. David Bell is probably
Speaker 1: being a little underdrafted right now, so he's probably a
Speaker 1: solid value as well. But I think realistically the answer
Speaker 1: for this season is nobody. I don't want anyone attached
Speaker 1: to Jacoby Brissette. You know, maybe Cooper, but I don't
Speaker 1: want DPJ for eleven games with Brissette or Jimmy g
Speaker 1: or whoever it is. You know, I don't like in Joeku.
Speaker 1: I think the pieces to own in this offense are
Speaker 1: probably Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and that's it. You know,
Speaker 1: Cooper's fine, like you said, Cooper's also okay, but just
Speaker 1: long term, maybe David Bell with a good QB. I'm
Speaker 1: not convinced to Shaun Watson is a long term answer though,
Speaker 1: because who knows with him. So the next question that
Speaker 1: we have here at FITZI is from a guy Dang Irving,
Speaker 1: and that's not a mistype. It is Dang, and Dang
Speaker 1: has to say, when going into a super flex startup,
Speaker 1: how important is the factor of age versus proven ability?
Speaker 1: I'm pick eight and struggling to figure what I should
Speaker 1: take here. I know I should draft two qbs in
Speaker 1: the first four rounds, but this startup is really pushing me.
Speaker 1: So what do you think. Let's let's break this down first,
Speaker 1: age versus ability here fits. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: Just overall and overarching. So my general startup strategy BOGS
Speaker 1: is to try to win in year two basically, like
Speaker 1: I want a combination with my top guys. I want
Speaker 1: some combination of youth and proven ability. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: he's picking number eight and the guys who might fit
Speaker 1: that description, who could be available at eight, Probably not
Speaker 1: all these guys, but some should be available Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. If you're, you know, pushing the quarterback value
Speaker 1: and wouldn't feel comfortable taking a non quarterback, I think
Speaker 1: those two. One of those two guys should be there
Speaker 1: at eight. And otherwise, certainly Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with either of those guys at number eight.
Speaker 1: For me, I've got my top three qbs first in
Speaker 1: Ala Mahomes and Jackson, then I've got j T at four.
Speaker 1: Then I have Chason, Jefferson, then Herbert and Burrow is
Speaker 1: actually my eighth pick as well. Then McCaffrey and Harrison
Speaker 1: Pitts in there as well. So I think most of
Speaker 1: the time, like you said, dang, I want I want
Speaker 1: a QB. So if Burrow is there, Burrow is probably
Speaker 1: going to be my guy. If somehow Herbert fell, you know,
Speaker 1: if you get a run of a couple of RBS
Speaker 1: in those two top art receivers in Jefferson and Chase
Speaker 1: going as well, there's a possibility maybe Herbert falls to
Speaker 1: you in a super flex, as doubtful as it is,
Speaker 1: that would be probably an insta pick for me at
Speaker 1: that spot. And in terms of age versus proven ability,
Speaker 1: I mean, see it on the field, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, there's all kinds of upside is specifically
Speaker 1: on rookies, but there's also there's many rookies. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't just have to take the very top one.
Speaker 1: This year is one. This is a class in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two that offers us offers us some depth, So
Speaker 1: you know, I think that you can wait on some
Speaker 1: youth and pick up some youth later. Get guys that
Speaker 1: you've seen do it before first is what I would say,
Speaker 1: and then aim for that upside a little bit later.
Speaker 1: I have no issue like in a Dynasty startup fits,
Speaker 1: guys will fall too far. Adam Deeland's going to fall
Speaker 1: too far in your draft, George Kittle gonna fall too far.
Speaker 1: Kelsey might even do it because he's along in the tooth.
Speaker 1: So I love taking advantage of the older, the elder
Speaker 1: statesman dropping you know. I mean, there's guys that you know.
Speaker 1: I kind of question. I think the biggest one is
Speaker 1: the one we talked about in the last question though,
Speaker 1: Hopkins fits. What are you doing with Hopkins in Dynasty
Speaker 1: right now? Because you know he's suspended because he needed
Speaker 1: the steroids to recover from this injury, and you know
Speaker 1: he's trying to shorten it, trying to get away with it.
Speaker 1: He got clipped and now he's gonna miss six games.
Speaker 1: But also I think it tells you more about where
Speaker 1: he is in his career having to do the steroids. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm holding there's not much you can do. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna get much for him. But about startup,
Speaker 1: where are you taking him in a startup? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm probably not thinking about him in like the first
Speaker 1: ten rounds, honestly, Like I'm trying to stock with other things.
Speaker 1: But you make a good point about, like one of
Speaker 1: the easiest things to do is win a dynasty league
Speaker 1: in year one or at least get yourself in great
Speaker 1: position because everyone is going to be angling for youth,
Speaker 1: and like you said, you can go in there and
Speaker 1: scoop up Kelsey and Feeling and all these guys on
Speaker 1: the cheap and get them at you know, still reasonable
Speaker 1: values without stupidly overpaying. Yeah, exactly, So just keep that
Speaker 1: in mind as you're drafting. Some of them. Older guys
Speaker 1: are going to start to slip and fall, and you
Speaker 1: don't want to be stuck with, you know, a team
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Speaker 1: how would you rank the top rookie wide receivers for
Speaker 1: Dynasty after two weeks of the preseason. Do you have
Speaker 1: any changes from before so fits? Have you made any
Speaker 1: drastic changes in your wide receiver rankings. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is a fascinating question. I don't think the upper reaches
Speaker 1: are changing too much. I can't remember where I had
Speaker 1: the big movers. I think our trail on Burkes down,
Speaker 1: George Pickens up, like those are the main ones. So
Speaker 1: for me right now, it would be Drake, London, Chris Lave,
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, Garrett Wilson, Johan Dotson, and then probably Pickens
Speaker 1: right after Dotson, Skymore and Burkes. And maybe maybe sky
Speaker 1: is a little low for you, bogs. He was a
Speaker 1: guy who would have been willing to move up, but
Speaker 1: you know, not encouraging that he's not really getting any
Speaker 1: reps with the ones in preseason. Might just be one
Speaker 1: of those veteran deference things make the rookie earn it.
Speaker 1: But you know, like that's kind of where sky Moore
Speaker 1: was for me before. I haven't really changed my opinion
Speaker 1: of him, Like I'm a little worried about Burks, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I probably would have taken him
Speaker 1: as early as one four in some drafts. I got
Speaker 1: him at one eleven in my favorite homely draft and
Speaker 1: was just giddy about it at the time. Now I
Speaker 1: feel like if we redrafted today, one eleven is about
Speaker 1: where you'd go. Yeah, look, I'm not Mike Frabel's a hardo.
Speaker 1: And when I say that, what I mean is that
Speaker 1: he is a you are going to have to earn
Speaker 1: it with your play in practice. Practice matters for Mike Frabel,
Speaker 1: He's not a Hey, you know, we've seen the film.
Speaker 1: We know that this guy can do. He doesn't need
Speaker 1: that many reps. He's not that guy. He is the
Speaker 1: guy that says, you earn your spot. He already named
Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook Coquina the wide receiver two for week one.
Speaker 1: Is that going to last? Absolutely not. But Treylon Burks
Speaker 1: was my number two wide outcoming in to the season
Speaker 1: after the draft, and you know, I'll move him down
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. Honestly, though, my top five was
Speaker 1: a tier here of Williams, Burkes, Wilson, London, and Olave.
Speaker 1: That is the top tier and nothing changes that. I
Speaker 1: still think those guys are the most skilled. I would
Speaker 1: move Dotson over more. I would move Pickens up just
Speaker 1: behind Johan Dotson, maybe over Johan Dotson. They would be
Speaker 1: close to me. I just wasn't sure how Pickens was
Speaker 1: gonna look this year coming off the ACL and being
Speaker 1: his first camp, and he looks amazing. You know, he
Speaker 1: looked good in the in the playoff as well. You know,
Speaker 1: I think obviously the biggest follower would be John Macci
Speaker 1: because of his leukemia. But prayers up and let's hope
Speaker 1: that he is back for next season because I still
Speaker 1: like him a lot. But really it's like the back
Speaker 1: end moving it is. You know, maybe Tilbert has to
Speaker 1: be a little bit down. Alec Pierce has to come
Speaker 1: up a little bit, you know, Taekwon Thornton looked good
Speaker 1: before his collar bone injury. Romeo Dubbs probably has to
Speaker 1: move ahead of guys like David Bell. What do you
Speaker 1: think Dubs or Wanda Robinson. I think AS still have Robinson,
Speaker 1: but it's that's close. I'd rather have Dobbs. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think I would rather have Dobbs just because
Speaker 1: you know, uh, team small receiver. We talked about this.
Speaker 1: The track record of guys under five nine not real illustrious. Um, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dobbs would be a guy who'd have to come up,
Speaker 1: I mean help. We'd probably have to draft Lansom a
Speaker 1: Cutcheon somewhere right at least a fourth rounder. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not going to move him up that high,
Speaker 1: you know. I know they got the Victor Cruz stuff,
Speaker 1: but there's too many wide receivers in LA for him
Speaker 1: too to last, I think, so uh not. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Lantays wide receivers, Houston, he's wide receivers. There's
Speaker 1: teams that could use them for sure. What about Khalil
Speaker 1: Shakier because it sounds like Isaiah McKenzie is in play
Speaker 1: for that number three job here? What do you do
Speaker 1: with your boy Khalil Shakier here? Fitz so he is
Speaker 1: uh bogs But apparently they are starting to give Shakier
Speaker 1: some naps on the outside because they realized they've got
Speaker 1: a glot of slot receivers and really no dependable backup
Speaker 1: on the outside for Digs and Gabe Davis. So that,
Speaker 1: you know, fascinates me. And Shakier has balled out the preseason,
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's good. Yeah. If anything, I'm feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: even better about him now than I was going in. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the Isaiah McKenzie love notwithstanding, like I think
Speaker 1: mackenzie and Shakier could both be value. What it does
Speaker 1: is just basically kills Jamison Crowder. I think, which, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was never kind of a Jamison Crowder fan. Again
Speaker 1: with so h that's fine with me to get him
Speaker 1: out of the way. But yeah, Crowder won me plenty
Speaker 1: of PPR leagues man, you know, being a wide receiver too,
Speaker 1: that you could draft as a wide receiver four and
Speaker 1: fill in for your bye weeks or injuries, which was
Speaker 1: wait wait wait was he ever a wide receiver too? Though?
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, Pete Jamison Crowder was like
Speaker 1: seven and PPR when he's getting like seventy five catches
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you know, I mean, he's annoyingly useful,
Speaker 1: like you know, there was never like you know, he
Speaker 1: never had crazy upside like you know, he never had
Speaker 1: the upside of like Johan Dotson right now or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But he was very solid for a while.
Speaker 1: So he was also with some bad qbs. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say that he ever got a
Speaker 1: real fair shake with a good QB. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like we talked about DJ Chark, the good qbs that
Speaker 1: that dude is played with. It's been Bortles and Minshew
Speaker 1: in the first three games with Trevor Lawrence's career. So
Speaker 1: Jared goff is an enormous upgrade, you know. So having
Speaker 1: Josh Allen you'd think would make him better, but just
Speaker 1: a little too long in the tooth for that. Also,
Speaker 1: I also think Crowder was saddled with Kirk Cousins in
Speaker 1: Washington for at least year. That's right. I even forgot
Speaker 1: even in Washington for to be honest with you, so
Speaker 1: and that, Yeah, early Kirk Cousins was a rough Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins much better now, obviously. The next question is from
Speaker 1: our buddy al Geez. I love these names, man, He says,
Speaker 1: I'm in a startup dynasty super flex league for the
Speaker 1: first time, twelve teams. What's an ideal start if you're
Speaker 1: picking four overall? Would you hit QB in the first
Speaker 1: two rounds? Or is that too aggressive? We start three
Speaker 1: wide receivers as well, trying to figure out what positions
Speaker 1: to prioritize fits. You know my take on this, and
Speaker 1: it's never gonna change. In a super flex league, everybody
Speaker 1: wants three qbs, right, you want two starters, you want
Speaker 1: a guy for bi weeks and injuries. That's thirty six qbs.
Speaker 1: There ain't thirty six qbs in the NFL. Let's start
Speaker 1: on a week tweek basis, so you gotta get hit
Speaker 1: those qbs early and often. If I'm sitting at pick
Speaker 1: number four, I'm taking one of my top four quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: That's it's fairly simple for me. I maybe if qbs
Speaker 1: don't go early, and you know, for whatever reason, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Chase Jefferson QB and you're sitting there with
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. I had entertained that if JT goes and
Speaker 1: you're sitting with one of the wide receivers, I would
Speaker 1: entertain that. But for me, it's the simple math and
Speaker 1: the simple math this draft QB's early and often correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I would probably personally lean Burrow here because I
Speaker 1: am definitely above everyone else on Burrow. I just I
Speaker 1: think the guy's a stud, and um, I'm guessing you
Speaker 1: have him over Herbert. I do, I do? Okay, Um So,
Speaker 1: I just like I think Herbert's good, but it kind
Speaker 1: of bothers me a little bit that his ypas have
Speaker 1: been kind of pedestrian the first I won't say pedestrian.
Speaker 1: Seven point three and seven point five not not bad,
Speaker 1: but um like, I just wonder how much of it
Speaker 1: is volume related? And yeah, like he's he's been I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, ninth and second in past attempts his first
Speaker 1: two years or whatever. Like what happens if that defense
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it is just lights out this year,
Speaker 1: which it could be. I mean, they've got good lord,
Speaker 1: They've got you know, Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack. It's
Speaker 1: their edge rushers. J Yeah, Jackson just had surgery, but
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a major thing. Should be
Speaker 1: back soon. They got Frazer. Derwin was questionable and they
Speaker 1: dropped the bag on him. So he Yeah, Derwin and
Speaker 1: Adderley that like that's one of the best safety combos
Speaker 1: in the league. Like this is a tough defense all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Like what if they don't need to
Speaker 1: throw as much? So whereas Burrow, Like I've gone on
Speaker 1: about that eight point nine YPA from last year that
Speaker 1: between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers their entire careers one season,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers within a YPA better than eight point nine.
Speaker 1: Brady's never done it. Like Burrow is the real freaking deal,
Speaker 1: and he's going to be tied to Jamar Chase and
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins for a long time. Like there's are good
Speaker 1: things coming from him, So he's my first guy. But
Speaker 1: Bog's like, I mean, you could probably talk me to
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, what about Kyle Pitts at one h four.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think solve your tight end position
Speaker 1: for the next decade with an exclamation point. You know,
Speaker 1: you know you should. But let's not forget. Tight end
Speaker 1: is a brutal position. You are you're either going up
Speaker 1: against defensive ends that are too big or you're racing
Speaker 1: against linebackers and safeties that are fast. So it's it's
Speaker 1: a hard position. It's rare that a guy finishes a
Speaker 1: guy that plays him any snaps. It's like Kelsey, your
Speaker 1: Kiddle or Pits or any of these top end guys
Speaker 1: that they do play every single game, and if they
Speaker 1: do play everything like Mark Andrews last year was banged
Speaker 1: up a bunch. So um, I just think the position
Speaker 1: is a little too brutal to be taking him that early.
Speaker 1: I'd say, like seven eight is my my Pits range.
Speaker 1: So what are we looking at coming back? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think Trey Lance is falling to like
Speaker 1: back and the Trevor Lawrence might look Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 1: a good gamble, you know what I mean, He's a
Speaker 1: very very good gamble at this point in the draft. Um,
Speaker 1: would you rather have Trevor Lawrence at like what I
Speaker 1: guess that would be two oh nine? Or would you
Speaker 1: rather have Javante Williams. I'd rather have Trevor Lawrence, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a QB thing for me. Like, Uh,
Speaker 1: running backs are hard. You know that they're hard to
Speaker 1: um to come by. Uh, They're they're hard to draft because,
Speaker 1: like we said in this draft specifically, you know, coming
Speaker 1: out of it, it's just Haul and Walker and we're
Speaker 1: definitely over drafting those guys. They're very good backs, but
Speaker 1: they're not what this top end group of whiteouts are
Speaker 1: to me anyway. So they're very very good, but they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in that range. But because of the scarcity
Speaker 1: of urb's, you have to put them up at the
Speaker 1: top of that draft unless you're in super flex and
Speaker 1: maybe it's Kenny Pickett at the top and then everybody else.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think in a super flex draft,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to secure my qbs fast. Now. If
Speaker 1: qbs are sparse in your draft, then you can probably
Speaker 1: wait on or you get one of those tops. Like
Speaker 1: I have Trey Lance at seven in my QBS for Dynasty,
Speaker 1: so if he fell back to you, that would be
Speaker 1: an unbelievable kid in my opinion. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I I at least want two QB's in my first
Speaker 1: three picks, especially sitting there on the end, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you snake back around, unless you're doing the third
Speaker 1: round reversal or whatever, Um, when you snake back around,
Speaker 1: you should be able to get somebody good. So uh,
Speaker 1: for me, be like QB BPA QB or you know,
Speaker 1: if if BPA is a QB, then I'm hitting running backs.
Speaker 1: So that that's probably what I would do in most
Speaker 1: scenarios there. Did we get that one? Is that all
Speaker 1: of it? So yeah, I think that's it. And and
Speaker 1: like I think the dilemma for him, I agree that
Speaker 1: most people are taking the QB there at the fourth spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to see what the board looks
Speaker 1: like because quarterback is definitely going to be kind of
Speaker 1: weird in that spot at the two o nine and
Speaker 1: maybe you just like do take the best player available,
Speaker 1: someone like Javonte Williams or you know whatever else might
Speaker 1: be there and come back with like I don't know,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr at three oh four, or someone like you know,
Speaker 1: someone more of a veteran who Yeah, like, you're not
Speaker 1: going to get an infinite run with them, but at
Speaker 1: least they should be solid for the next couple of
Speaker 1: years and you can figure out something else at quarterback
Speaker 1: down the road. Our next question is from our guy Wyatt,
Speaker 1: and I love this question. Are you buying loan Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson as his cost continues to fall? This is an
Speaker 1: easy yes for me, Fitz. What do you think about
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson. Yeah, my guy Wyatt, who you know, not
Speaker 1: only bought me a beer at the Fantasy Football and
Speaker 1: Canon but now is lobbing me this fat pitch right
Speaker 1: over the heart of the play. And because man like,
Speaker 1: getting me to take up the sword and shield for
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson these days is not hard man, and everyone
Speaker 1: else on Fantasy Twitter is taking up the torches and pitchforks.
Speaker 1: Man Like, no love for Antonio Gibson these days. Everyone
Speaker 1: just wants to freaking barry the guy. But Bogs, we've
Speaker 1: talked about this man, same size and speed as Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: basically pass catching history as a former college wideout, double
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns in his first two years, played with a
Speaker 1: cracked shin bone, and he just turned twenty four years old,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give up on this guy. Hell no, man,
Speaker 1: And think about the long term future of this offense.
Speaker 1: When you have a guy like Gibson, you have McLaurin,
Speaker 1: you have Watson, Hopefully you get a QB that isn't
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz in this draft or sign someone, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There will be guys available. So I
Speaker 1: just think we haven't hit the top end. And I
Speaker 1: think what a lot of people miss on is just
Speaker 1: the starting job. It's just the starting job. It's just
Speaker 1: the storry I the starter. And look that makes sense.
Speaker 1: That should be where your head's out most of the time.
Speaker 1: But when you look in terms of game script and
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, like just because Brian Robinson is
Speaker 1: a good running back doesn't mean Antonio Gibson goes away.
Speaker 1: We saw him returning kicks, we saw him lining up
Speaker 1: out wide at wide receiver, not a slot guy out
Speaker 1: wide at wide receiver, and pass was way underthrown by
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz on his one target. But they're gonna find
Speaker 1: a way to get him the football in this team,
Speaker 1: and he's still gonna get probably close to fifteen touches
Speaker 1: a game, even if Brian Robinson is also getting fifteen
Speaker 1: carries a game. You know. So I've always thought from
Speaker 1: the jump that mckissic might be the odd man out
Speaker 1: here because you have your thumper in Robinson, and you
Speaker 1: have your third down back and Gibson. So mickissic maybe
Speaker 1: he comes in on, like you know, obviously he will
Speaker 1: play in pass catching downs still, but I just don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have another seventy catch season with both
Speaker 1: these guys out there. So, because you do have depth
Speaker 1: a wide receiver now too, because Gibson's gonna play wide out,
Speaker 1: Diamie Brown is there, Curtis Samuel is healthy ish, I
Speaker 1: guess now, I think that's the best you could probably
Speaker 1: get for Curtis Samuel is healthy ish ever anymore. But
Speaker 1: you know, Gibson's gonna have a role, It's just not
Speaker 1: gonna be the same exact role that he had last year.
Speaker 1: They're still gonna put the ball in his hands. He's
Speaker 1: still a weapon. Yeah, And bugs lest anyone believe that,
Speaker 1: you know, Ron Rivera doesn't like Antonio Gibson or whatever.
Speaker 1: Our guy Cody Carpentier was going on a rant about
Speaker 1: this this past weekend where he's like, you're giving up
Speaker 1: on Antonio Gibson, are you freaking crazy? And he dug
Speaker 1: up some old clips of Ron Rivera and press conferences
Speaker 1: talking about Gibson talking about him like he was a son, right, So, like,
Speaker 1: let's not make the mistake of thinking that, like Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson is on the outs here with Rivera on the staff, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just not the Yeah, I mean, maybe they were
Speaker 1: punishing him for a fumble, but like, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: quit on a guy with this profile, with this problem
Speaker 1: and it's not just a profile, it's not like we
Speaker 1: hope he can become something. The dudes already scored like
Speaker 1: twenty one touchdowns in two years. If they don't believe him,
Speaker 1: someone uh, if they don't believe him, someone else will
Speaker 1: and they'll trade for him. Yea, now is now is
Speaker 1: the time to make offers for Antonio Gibson and Dynasty
Speaker 1: like and I low one hundred million percent. Although it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if Shane Manila, another friend of
Speaker 1: the show, checkmates me with that. Uh that basically the
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson for James Cook trade and then he drafts
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson in the second round. So he is trying
Speaker 1: to set me up to mock me for years to
Speaker 1: come if this all works his way. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: you know, look, I traded uh Jose Altuve for Rafield
Speaker 1: de Paul in a league. Okay, so like it gets worse,
Speaker 1: It is all I'm saying, Um, enjoyer of sports, I
Speaker 1: love that name. My team is weak at running back,
Speaker 1: strong at wide receiver, full PPR. Should I take Walker
Speaker 1: or London at one point zero two in the rookie draft?
Speaker 1: What do you think here fits? I'm kind of team
Speaker 1: Walker anyway, regardless of his team need. So it's just
Speaker 1: you to rookie class that was fairly deep at wide
Speaker 1: receiver and not really that deep. Maybe it's a little
Speaker 1: deeper than we first thought now that it looks like
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce might be something and Brian Robinson, Yeah, Brian Robinson,
Speaker 1: but still man like Ken Walker. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: the Hernie. I'm not worried about how Pete Carroll is
Speaker 1: going to deploy these guys early on, even if for
Speaker 1: shot Penny is still the guy and we did see
Speaker 1: Penny get drafted in the first round only to basically,
Speaker 1: you know, be on dry ice for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: So that could happen with Walker too. But man, he's
Speaker 1: such a good prospect, so I'm taking him still here.
Speaker 1: And if he needs running backs anyway, like all the
Speaker 1: more reason. Yeah. Look, Walker is a horse, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can take that three hundred carries,
Speaker 1: three hundred touches, whatever it is with him. And look,
Speaker 1: just because he didn't catch the football in college doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he can't catch the football. You've heard Fitz say this,
Speaker 1: You've heard me say this, You've heard tons of people
Speaker 1: say this, just because the guy didn't get opportunities. The
Speaker 1: same thing was Samer White, Zamir White didn't get opportunity
Speaker 1: to catch the ball because they had James Cook. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he can't do it. It means they had someone
Speaker 1: to do it. Now Michigan State. It was more about
Speaker 1: just the way the offense ran and not throwing the
Speaker 1: ball to the running backs a lot. You know, he's
Speaker 1: got to get better at it. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: good at it. I'm just saying it's not something that
Speaker 1: you just wipe off the table from him. Like like
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, we knew probably wouldn't could be able to
Speaker 1: catch the ball very well, and he has proven that
Speaker 1: to be correct in his NFL career. He doesn't catch
Speaker 1: a lot of footballs, right, So there guys coming out
Speaker 1: that get this label that it's appropriate. I just don't
Speaker 1: know that it's appropriate with Walker. It might be, but
Speaker 1: he just didn't see enough opportunity. So I think he's
Speaker 1: a three down back. I think where shot Penny's made
Speaker 1: a glass, He's never gonna be able to stay on
Speaker 1: the field. Availability is the best ability. I know Walker's
Speaker 1: banged up right now, but this isn't a long term injury,
Speaker 1: so I think he's gonna be just fine. So I
Speaker 1: am all aboard the Walker train here. Just the depth
Speaker 1: of wide receiver is too good. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: look at these wide receivers that we're talking about late Fitzy.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about Tilber and Pickens and Pierce
Speaker 1: going late behind sky More and people don't even think
Speaker 1: about thoughts and that much. So wide receiver is deep.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking one of those top two rbs on
Speaker 1: the board for sure. He can get Tolber coming back
Speaker 1: at like two o two Yeah, yeah, exactly. So just
Speaker 1: too much depth, especially when you're already good at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: There will be some years where there will be some
Speaker 1: years where it just doesn't add up, you know, where
Speaker 1: the wide receiver one is too good. But if I
Speaker 1: was taking a wide receiver there, it was still be
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams to me over Drake London at the second spot,
Speaker 1: unless that is who's going one, and then I don't
Speaker 1: know Walker or Hall. I'm still team Hall. What do
Speaker 1: you think right now? The second Yeah? Yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So if Breece Hall is there, well we would change
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But we assume he goes number one.
Speaker 1: If you are taking wide see or take Jameson Williams
Speaker 1: Douglas Powers. He says, how should you approach your first
Speaker 1: superflex startup? If you're drafting closer to the back of
Speaker 1: the first round twelve team full PPR. He has picked eleven.
Speaker 1: This is where we get to our guy, Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: I think fit see right, bogs like the dream start
Speaker 1: for me in this position, and I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know which guy you'd take first. What if
Speaker 1: you could do. Could you get Pitts and Lance here
Speaker 1: a Pitts. Lance? Start to think of how sweet that
Speaker 1: would be from the back end, because I don't think
Speaker 1: there's the value. There's the value to go double quarterback here,
Speaker 1: Like the guys here at quarterback are going to be
Speaker 1: like Lance, Deshaun Wa and uh probably like Dak Prescott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you're looking for at the back
Speaker 1: end at quarterback, and like you might throw Jalen in there.
Speaker 1: You know, I know people don't like Jalen long term,
Speaker 1: but Kai is putting up points. Yeah, Hurts Hurts her
Speaker 1: Lance for you right now? Lance, Right, Lance, guy, it's
Speaker 1: so close. I'm I have Hurts ahead. Uh but I
Speaker 1: have I mean, I have him one spot ahead. So
Speaker 1: um yeah, no, actually no I don't. I'm sorry, my bad.
Speaker 1: I have Lance at seven, I have I have seven, eight, nine.
Speaker 1: I forgot I move Lance up that high. Seven for Lance,
Speaker 1: eight for Prescott, nine for Hurts. Yeah, I do, I've
Speaker 1: Hurts one spot ahead of Lawrence. That's who I was
Speaker 1: thinking of. I mean, I think I think Hurts is
Speaker 1: a better runner. Hurts is a better runner than Lance,
Speaker 1: but maybe not by that much. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's close. Yeah, but I think Lance like
Speaker 1: could be an above average NFL quarterback yes, as far
Speaker 1: as passing, and I don't think Hurts is ever going
Speaker 1: to be that. Yeah, I would agree with that. So
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's Lance Lance Pits that would be a
Speaker 1: that'd be a. I mean, so if you were sitting
Speaker 1: and then some running backs are gonna fall because people
Speaker 1: are gonna be taking QB's, especially people that didn't take
Speaker 1: QB's in round one, So I know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: that long wait after that turn for your three four
Speaker 1: turn there, but you're gonna get some rbs to fall
Speaker 1: back to you because of the people wanting to take
Speaker 1: h QB's and wide receivers because the wide receivers lasts longer.
Speaker 1: So I think you can get a good fall if
Speaker 1: you're trying to do that Pits Lance combo and you've
Speaker 1: got to worry about Team twelve taking one of those
Speaker 1: guys off the tap. How do you play that? Do
Speaker 1: you play it pits first, then Lance or Lance Pits
Speaker 1: and then Lance Pits Pits first and then Lance. Because like,
Speaker 1: as much as I want a QB and I do
Speaker 1: and I'm more than okay taking QB's. You know, if
Speaker 1: Pitts goes and you're sitting there like, well, what the
Speaker 1: hell do I do? Now? Take two qbs? I'm all
Speaker 1: about it. You know, Lance and Lawrence or something like
Speaker 1: that would be an insane star or one or high
Speaker 1: floor two? Yeah sure yeah, high floor with Dak as
Speaker 1: well could be good. Uh so, uh but you know,
Speaker 1: there's no one who else is in Pitts's category. It's
Speaker 1: Pitts and then Andrews and then nobody, you know, because
Speaker 1: Kelsey's so old, Kittles so old in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: the NFL career and for that position of tight end. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that it's Pits by a wide margin
Speaker 1: at that one spot for tight ended dynasty. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta wait from Michael Mayer and uh Brock
Speaker 1: what's his name? From Georgia. Yeah, so the cavaler Bowers,
Speaker 1: the Cavalry is coming at tight end, but not just yet. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bowers is a couple of years away too. Uh. Chad
Speaker 1: G says, how much do you prioritize your third QB?
Speaker 1: And super flex? Very high for me, obviously, it's all
Speaker 1: not just for the depth, also for the trade commodity
Speaker 1: of it, and like if especially if you have deep
Speaker 1: benches there fits I'm taking a third QB early, I'm
Speaker 1: taking a fourth QB. Like if you can get Willis
Speaker 1: late or Corral now that he's hurt is off of
Speaker 1: everybody's mind, you know, if I can get a QB
Speaker 1: late as well, because they hold so much trade value
Speaker 1: because the scarcity of that position, specifically in anything twelve
Speaker 1: or bigger, right exactly, Yeah, I want one for sure.
Speaker 1: You know, we know it's a musical chairs game with
Speaker 1: thirty two teams, thirty two starting spots, twelve team league.
Speaker 1: You know that's everyone gets two and then three more
Speaker 1: teams get one. Although you know you've always got the
Speaker 1: situations like uh, you know, Mariota Ritter True bisky and
Speaker 1: pick it. So yeah, it's always fun to play that.
Speaker 1: But I know, like I've got two quarterbacks in my
Speaker 1: home Dynasty league where I have lost in the championship
Speaker 1: the last two years. Right now, I've only got Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and Tuah, and I don't have a third. My
Speaker 1: number three is like, you know, it's either Sam Howell
Speaker 1: or Sam Darnold, you know, And I've talked about the
Speaker 1: framework of a deal for Baker Mayfield from a guy
Speaker 1: who's got a glut of quarterbacks. This is this is
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. This is what you want to avoid.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have to be the guy dealing
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield because you have to have him, right
Speaker 1: like Bogs. I think I could get him for Cadarius Tony.
Speaker 1: Would you trade Cadarius Tony for Baker Mayfield? Yeah, super
Speaker 1: flex I would. Yeah, kind of the cost, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's gross, but you have to because yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: cost of doing business and a super flex league, man,
Speaker 1: it just is. Yeah, it sucks, but like you said,
Speaker 1: that is that's the cost to do a business, and
Speaker 1: that's why you take extras at the end, you take
Speaker 1: willis even like Mason Rudolph has made himself a little
Speaker 1: bit of money here in this preseason, so uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Trubisky and pay get you know, guys like this. You
Speaker 1: got to think about swooping up after the thought after,
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people they get their
Speaker 1: two qbs and then they go all right, I'll take
Speaker 1: a third one. When I take a thirdly they don't
Speaker 1: think about it again. So it's number one it's smart
Speaker 1: for you to even ask the question or be thinking
Speaker 1: about it. And number two, hoard those qbs and you
Speaker 1: can trade them for a king's ransom. I've done in
Speaker 1: every league. I have sixteen man leagues where I do
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's not a super flex, it's a
Speaker 1: regular league. But that's sixteen. Everybody gets two. That's thirty
Speaker 1: two starters. Everybody gets two. And then what are you
Speaker 1: doing with the Seahawks and the Falcons and the Panthers
Speaker 1: and the Steelers, like these teams that might be playing
Speaker 1: musical chairs at QB, so hoard them in those leagues,
Speaker 1: the deeper leagues as well. Scarcity of position RPV. As
Speaker 1: our boy Joe would say, Ross says, are you happy
Speaker 1: with the Dynasty startup of Pitts Digs, Pitts AJ Brown
Speaker 1: or Digs AJ Brown? I have the twelfth pick in
Speaker 1: at twelve team? So what do you think about these
Speaker 1: combos here? Fitzy, I'm guessing it's one QB right, right?
Speaker 1: Has to be? Yeah? I like Pits Diggs. I think
Speaker 1: probably my favorite is Pitts A. J. Brown. There. Maybe
Speaker 1: like Brown a little more than Diggs and Dynasty. It's close.
Speaker 1: I like the two Pits combinations. I'm less excited about
Speaker 1: the Diggs Brown combination. Maybe it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like Diggs is Digs, Like we're not worried about
Speaker 1: Digs aging out just yet. You know, he's just hitting
Speaker 1: his later twenties. So like Diggs has got a pretty
Speaker 1: solid three or four year window before we start worrying
Speaker 1: about age with him. Um, but I just would you
Speaker 1: consider an rbat? Would you consider like Javante over a
Speaker 1: guy like Digs something like that. I think I'd rather
Speaker 1: do that. If a Javante or uh, you know, a
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift or maybe even Barkley fell back to you
Speaker 1: at that spot, I think I would probably rather have
Speaker 1: the QB than go wide receiver wide receiver. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: kind of it, and generally it's it's weird, it's almost counterintuitive. Bugs.
Speaker 1: But like in Dynasty, I almost am more running back
Speaker 1: centric and startups than I am in like Redraft. I know,
Speaker 1: like he's probably got a three wide receiver league, which
Speaker 1: is why he's thinking about that wide receiver. Wide receiver
Speaker 1: start and you should have strong wide receivers. But like
Speaker 1: in a Dynasty startup, man, they're like you know wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I could get excited about going deep, deep, deep into
Speaker 1: the draft, but they run out pretty quick at running back,
Speaker 1: so I almost want to get one of those guys
Speaker 1: at the top and then you know, just keep hitting
Speaker 1: on wide receivers. Kind of threw out the first ten, twelve,
Speaker 1: fourteen rounds, you know, yeah, yeah, exactly. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you about this because we talked about this off air,
Speaker 1: and we had we didn't say it on air. You
Speaker 1: said to me the other day, it's a fallacy that
Speaker 1: wide seever is deep. You're not really buying into it. Now.
Speaker 1: Is that just for redraft or is that a dynasty
Speaker 1: perspective as well, Because if it is in dynasty, I
Speaker 1: think I think we gotta fight on our hands because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight you on that one to some extent.
Speaker 1: I mean in dynasty, like there's always the youth you
Speaker 1: can look toward, hope for. But like generally the thing is,
Speaker 1: if you're playing in a league where you got to
Speaker 1: start three bogs, you know you might have Jarvis Landry.
Speaker 1: Oh look, you know I can get Jarvis Landry at
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Sixty wide receiver is so deep you really
Speaker 1: want to be starting Jarvis Landry as your third wide
Speaker 1: out every week, Like hell no, man, there's just no
Speaker 1: ceiling there. So well it becomes and it's funny because
Speaker 1: we have the same thing going on in baseball, and
Speaker 1: I know you play a little bit of fantasy baseball
Speaker 1: as well, where it's like, you know, because any guy
Speaker 1: can hit twenty homers, you can't take a donut for speed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you have to have
Speaker 1: a player that hits homers that every position because it's
Speaker 1: an arms race. Now, it's kind of like that at
Speaker 1: wide receiver too. It almost because the market is so saturated.
Speaker 1: You have to keep pace with everyone because they're drafting
Speaker 1: these good wide receivers. So I'll say it's a fallacy
Speaker 1: that you you know, you can't take. You can skip
Speaker 1: the first five rounds without taking a wide receiver. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go that deep, but I'd say I
Speaker 1: like that strategy way more than go on the first
Speaker 1: five rounds with the other positions. Yeah, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's just it. Like if you if you're one of
Speaker 1: these people who likes to go running back, running back,
Speaker 1: running back, like get your third one and flex like
Speaker 1: a good third running back. I mean, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: just crushed. You are gonna get squashed at the wide
Speaker 1: receiver position, especially if you have to start three of
Speaker 1: them that I think you can still hit it right,
Speaker 1: But but you have to guess, right, that's the thing
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, it's it's a minefield. Like for me.
Speaker 1: That's guys like Juju. You know, Juju is going too late.
Speaker 1: Even in your dynasty rafts, He's probably gonna be going
Speaker 1: too late as well. I think Olavey is going a
Speaker 1: little bit too late. I'm still in on Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the depth chart in week one.
Speaker 1: I care about the depth chart at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. And I think by week three or four,
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is your number two wide receiver for the Jets.
Speaker 1: You know, will they have a decent quarterback or wild
Speaker 1: be the elite Joe Flacco throwing That's a big question.
Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure we talked about that,
Speaker 1: because that's been crawling around and it's been an earwig,
Speaker 1: you know, for a couple of weeks since I had
Speaker 1: you on IL and you kind of mentioned that as
Speaker 1: you were leaving. I was like, well, wait, what what
Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: bring that up with fitz again. So I'm glad we
Speaker 1: got it on the show here. All right, So did
Speaker 1: we answer Ross's We got Ross's question? Okay. The last
Speaker 1: question here is from our guy Joe. He says, I'm
Speaker 1: in a twelve team startup super Flex. A lot of
Speaker 1: startup Superflex is going on picking first overall? Should I
Speaker 1: try to trade up into the early second round to
Speaker 1: make sure I get a second top QB? If so,
Speaker 1: what should I be willing to give up? What do
Speaker 1: you think, Fitzy, is that too expensive? Or do you
Speaker 1: think that's something that you should be at least looking for.
Speaker 1: I know what the price is for trades like this, Bogs.
Speaker 1: It's really expensive. You're going to give up a net
Speaker 1: loss for sure. As far as the value of your
Speaker 1: draft picks, let me ask you this one. I think
Speaker 1: you're probably right, But if you gave up your second
Speaker 1: round pick this year and your first round pick in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three with a good draft class and a
Speaker 1: drive class that is deep at QB, is that something
Speaker 1: you'd be willing to do or do you just think, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's just way too cost prohibitive. Oh, I'm not giving
Speaker 1: up my first rounders in twenty twenty three for anything
Speaker 1: Bogs I likes way too much. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be kicking. What about the missing the chance to draft
Speaker 1: Bejan Robinson? Are you kidding me? Look, I'm with you,
Speaker 1: you know me. It's all Bejean Robinson. Maybe not in superflex,
Speaker 1: but maybe even in superflex we'll see. But what if
Speaker 1: the only three position non qbs to go in the
Speaker 1: first round are Chan, Jefferson, and JT. Like it's just
Speaker 1: a glut of QB's going there. Are you willing to
Speaker 1: trade up? Let's say Lance or Lawrence is there? Will
Speaker 1: you be willing to trade do that deal? You do
Speaker 1: a one next year and a two, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get Lance or Lawrence, but you're gonna be shut out
Speaker 1: of that first round next season. Yeah. Well, I'm like,
Speaker 1: when you take what the other guy's going to charge
Speaker 1: you in addition to those picks, like they're also going
Speaker 1: to be a sacrifice of picks in this startup draft.
Speaker 1: Like I guarantee you you are giving up like net
Speaker 1: value with this trade. Like, yes, you get the two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you don't have that, but you're going to be way behind,
Speaker 1: I think at the other positions because of what you're
Speaker 1: giving up in a deal like this. It's it's just
Speaker 1: how the market is, man. I've seen it in way
Speaker 1: too many startup drafts. I would say, wait and maybe
Speaker 1: you know you can possibly get Justin Fields at the
Speaker 1: end of the second round, you know, or yeah later
Speaker 1: in that, like get your get your number one QB
Speaker 1: and then later on, like in the mac Jones Derek are, like,
Speaker 1: you don't have to go one two right off the
Speaker 1: bat with quarterback, like I'd rather see him. I'd rather
Speaker 1: see Joe, just like you know, get that, get Josh
Speaker 1: Ellen at one oh one, and then you know, get
Speaker 1: yourself something else that like, just play it patiently. If
Speaker 1: you don't like the quarterback value of Justin Fields isn't
Speaker 1: there at two twelve and three oh one, Take two
Speaker 1: non quarterbacks and then come back. You know, you might
Speaker 1: have ye mac Jones sitting there for you by the
Speaker 1: time it gets back to you at the end of
Speaker 1: the fourth. Also, like if there's a specific guy that
Speaker 1: you have in mind that you want right and you
Speaker 1: can just say, hey, look, I'm gonna wait if he
Speaker 1: goes before pick six in the second round, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be too much to move there and to do it.
Speaker 1: But if you're getting like you're at pick six, that
Speaker 1: guy's still there, maybe then you jump in and you go, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to move up six spots to
Speaker 1: take a player here. I'll give you my next pick
Speaker 1: and then a second next year. And you're like, all
Speaker 1: you're doing is moving back six spots. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to talk him into it
Speaker 1: something like that. But if like that guy is still
Speaker 1: on the board and he keeps slipping and slipping and slipping,
Speaker 1: if you don't get him in three picks, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be pissed. So what I'd say is, at least keep
Speaker 1: an open mind to make the deal. Like making the
Speaker 1: deal way ahead of time isn't even guaranteeing you that
Speaker 1: that guy that you want is going to be there,
Speaker 1: you know. So what I would say is watch the
Speaker 1: board as the draft is happening, and if you're doing
Speaker 1: a live draft instead of a slow draft, which most
Speaker 1: people at right now are doing slow drafts. But if
Speaker 1: you're drafting this weekend or you know, later in the week,
Speaker 1: just set up those guys that are four or five
Speaker 1: picks in front of you and say, hey, look, I
Speaker 1: might have a deal for you come the second round,
Speaker 1: and you know, if you're waiting for your guy, you
Speaker 1: go to him and say, hey, we talked about a
Speaker 1: potential deal. I got something to offer you, and you say,
Speaker 1: what about this? Whatever it is. You know, maybe you
Speaker 1: guys have worked on it ahead of time. You don't
Speaker 1: have to tell them who you want. If you say, look,
Speaker 1: I'm very specific, I want a certain player here. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell you who it is because I
Speaker 1: want them to fall. And you know, if they keep
Speaker 1: sliding down that board a little bit, maybe it's way
Speaker 1: less cost. Maybe it's you know, a third round pick
Speaker 1: if you're only moving up two spots. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: second round pick if you're only moving up five or
Speaker 1: six spots. Maybe it's just like we're swipping. We're flipping
Speaker 1: picks here, we're straight in our seconds and I'm giving
Speaker 1: you a ten and I take your fifteen. Something like that. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, just keep an open mind with that. If
Speaker 1: there is a specific one player that you want, I
Speaker 1: like to think it would be that reasonable that you
Speaker 1: could do that, But like it doesn't always work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know no one's like, I don't think anyone's dropping
Speaker 1: back five or six spots that early with that much
Speaker 1: talent on the board for just a second next year.
Speaker 1: I think they want like a second plus like your
Speaker 1: fourth round pick for their eighth or something like that.
Speaker 1: Or they're just gonna say no, I want a first rounder,
Speaker 1: in which case, yeah, well I would rather do that
Speaker 1: deal though that that fourth in the eighth. I would
Speaker 1: rather do that deal than give up that first. Still,
Speaker 1: so you know, like you said, most people are unreasonable,
Speaker 1: and most trades don't get done because people are unreasonable
Speaker 1: and they have to feel like they've won. So and
Speaker 1: if they know that you're desperate for something, maybe they
Speaker 1: won't give you that deal. But you know, you never know,
Speaker 1: is what I would say. So it never hurts to ask.
Speaker 1: You can always ask. And if what's the worst thing
Speaker 1: that they can say is no, or you know, recorded
Speaker 1: and embarrass you on the internet or something, I don't
Speaker 1: know what, but most cases the worst they can say
Speaker 1: is no, so at least ask. And you know, you
Speaker 1: also open yourself as a person that makes deals if
Speaker 1: you make a deal that early in a startup. So
Speaker 1: any other points to make here, before we go, Fitzy,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of great questions. Thank you everyone
Speaker 1: that submitted them, and if we didn't get to yours,
Speaker 1: we apologize. But these are some great questions that we
Speaker 1: had here. Yeah, thanks to all our question askers. Great
Speaker 1: dozen questions, and you know, hopefully we help people. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we did, but hopefully at least a
Speaker 1: couple of these people got something useful out of our conversation. Bogs, Fitzy,
Speaker 1: we have one show left and we're gonna have the
Speaker 1: great Thorneys tromon to discuss this twenty twenty three NFL
Speaker 1: Draft class for fantasy purposes, and uh, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fun one. But I'm sad that we only have
Speaker 1: one more show left to do. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: shelve it for the regular season. H Dynasty. Questions can
Speaker 1: still be asked to us, and we'll still be on
Speaker 1: stages and around and things like that. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays with Pizza Pia after our IDP show recording.
Speaker 1: Moving forward, we're gonna be doing our stages after dark.
Speaker 1: But Fits, you know, one more show to go. How
Speaker 1: are you feeling. I'm feeling good. Bogs. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna miss seeing you on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna be talking on slack texting. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure we'll be texting college football games
Speaker 1: this fall. But m dude, I'm just so excited about
Speaker 1: next week's show man, I mean, the mega class of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and we're gonna be talking about it
Speaker 1: with the God of Love in college football Thor and
Speaker 1: Eystro Like I can't wait, man, and like, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: just so excited. I was. I was talking a Cody
Speaker 1: Carpentier in Canton at the Fantasy Football EXBA and Cody's,
Speaker 1: you know, a great prospect guy too, and like we
Speaker 1: were taling, he's really excited about Will Levis. Yeah, Leves,
Speaker 1: the weirdo that puts mayonnaise in his coffee, right, big
Speaker 1: old dollar man. And I like, I mean between the
Speaker 1: mayonnaise and the coffee, and like my my flashbacks to
Speaker 1: Tim Couch going, uh, you know, one oh one, Like
Speaker 1: I can't I don't know how I can get down
Speaker 1: with the Kentucky quarterback. But man, I mean Cody was
Speaker 1: making a very compelling case. So I'll be into Josh
Speaker 1: Allen skill set man. Yeah, and like you know, Richardson
Speaker 1: and Florida, Like, I can't wait to see how Thor
Speaker 1: has these quarterbacks stacked up. I can't wait to hear
Speaker 1: his take on Bejon. I can't wait to hear how
Speaker 1: he's got this top tier of you know, like who's
Speaker 1: Jackson and Jake If maybe Jackson and Jake ba isn't
Speaker 1: even the number one in his book, Maybe it's it's
Speaker 1: Kashan Boutet or someone like that. Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just really excited to get into this class a little
Speaker 1: in preview it, and I know, like Dynasty people are
Speaker 1: so excess obsessive, they're like already in the next year's draft, man.
Speaker 1: So I'll bringing it all down with Thor and with
Speaker 1: you is going to be a blast. Yeah, It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So look forward to that
Speaker 1: next week. Remember you can follow us on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Bogman Sports for myself at fits Underscore. F Fitzy, what's
Speaker 1: coming up for you this week other than our podcast
Speaker 1: with Thor next Tuesday. Yeah, that new episode of fits
Speaker 1: on Fantasy is coming out this week, and you know,
Speaker 1: just keep hitting Fantasy pros for new articles every day.
Speaker 1: We are not going to let you down in the
Speaker 1: heart of draft season. We're gonna have just tons of
Speaker 1: new stuff coming at you for the next two weeks,
Speaker 1: well pretty much the next four or five months Bogman,
Speaker 1: but especially the next couple of weeks as you're doing
Speaker 1: your drafts. Yeah. Absolutely for me. Welsh and I just
Speaker 1: had the incomparable Bob Harris of Football die Hard, the
Speaker 1: original football die Hard, on our IL show, so that
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to talk with him about sleepers. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this show, I'm gonna be on with Joe doing IDPs
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis during this season as well.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to have a betting pro show with
Speaker 1: the incomparable thor Nystrom as well, so that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: We're starting that this week because it's week zero, this
Speaker 1: weekend fifth, We've got ten games somewhere in that range
Speaker 1: to talk about this week, so college football is upon us.
Speaker 1: So we are right at the door knocking here, so
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