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Speaker 1: get into the twenty twenty three draft. Class, and uh, fits,
Speaker 1: I'm going to pass it over to you for the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to start, because I know this is kind of
Speaker 1: the depth of this class, right is What it seems
Speaker 1: like is that quarterbacks are at the strength. So you
Speaker 1: get first crack at asking our boy thor a QB question,
Speaker 1: what do you got for him? Yeah? Or um? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm looking for your take on the overall
Speaker 1: quality of this class. Is this just kind of a
Speaker 1: landmark QB class? It seems really deep, and it seems
Speaker 1: really strong at the top with Bryce Young and CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud and maybe we throw Will Levis in there too.
Speaker 1: Do you think there can be enough depth to make
Speaker 1: this like an epic class, like one of the one
Speaker 1: of the generational type QB classes or I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just give us your sense of the overall quality and
Speaker 1: what it might look like. Obviously there's a lot to
Speaker 1: play out this fall, But how do you generally see
Speaker 1: this quarterback class? Yeah, we're a peg or right now,
Speaker 1: definitely better than the class that we just had with
Speaker 1: the quarterback class, but they're not asking a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not asking the tell maybe, but I don't think that
Speaker 1: it's quite as good as the year before where we
Speaker 1: had the five in the first round. The depth you
Speaker 1: mentioned the word depth. I think that's where probably it's better. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of kids in this class that
Speaker 1: I think either are draftable right now or could become
Speaker 1: So I think that's where where you know the strength
Speaker 1: of this one at the and of course you at
Speaker 1: the very very top with with Young and Strout, you
Speaker 1: have the two elite prospects. I'm just not sure if
Speaker 1: this class will end up producing five first round quarterbacks
Speaker 1: like that one. But it's got a shot because there
Speaker 1: are a couple of guys outside that window. Right now,
Speaker 1: you have like three or four guys that that could
Speaker 1: easily get into the first round. I just don't think
Speaker 1: right now where we set, you know, in comparison to
Speaker 1: two years ago, at this same exact time, then we
Speaker 1: had a better idea that we were going to get
Speaker 1: four or five first rounders quarterbacks in the first round.
Speaker 1: This year, I'm not quite as confident until we start
Speaker 1: to see the games, see how it plays out. Do
Speaker 1: you have a tentative ranking of like the top two
Speaker 1: or three yet or is that TBD? Well, so, I
Speaker 1: guess I would toss him into tiers right now. Young
Speaker 1: and Stroud are definitely by far and away Tier one.
Speaker 1: Tier two would probably be Levis would probably be leading
Speaker 1: it off. Tanner McKee is a guy that you can
Speaker 1: like watching him. He's weird. It's almost a better version
Speaker 1: of what we saw with Davis Mills a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, where the counting stats are not good and
Speaker 1: there are certain reps where he does not acquit himself
Speaker 1: very well at all, but there's other ones where it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this guy has a big league arm
Speaker 1: plus plus plus. He actually had double the amount of
Speaker 1: tight window throw yards last year that Bryce Young did
Speaker 1: despite having like fifteen hundred or two thousand, yes, less
Speaker 1: passing yards overall than Bryce Young did. So that's a
Speaker 1: kid who has a huge arm. He does not have
Speaker 1: a lot of help at Stanford. Uh you know there's
Speaker 1: I mean both in the offensive line and their skill
Speaker 1: talent has has precipitously declined in recent years. But he
Speaker 1: is absolutely kid to keep an eye on because the
Speaker 1: pocket presence and the big time arm. A couple other ones.
Speaker 1: Tyler Van Dyke from Miami, I think is someone you
Speaker 1: have to have on this less super duper intriguing when
Speaker 1: he came in for Dieric King last year after Derek
Speaker 1: King got injured, you just sort of expected Miami's offense
Speaker 1: to just go into the drain, just go down the toilet,
Speaker 1: and it didn't. Miami actually got better after Diaric King
Speaker 1: got injured because of Tyler Van Dyke. When you're shocking
Speaker 1: like Derek King was a legitimate collegiate star, Tyler Van
Speaker 1: Dyke is another guy who has an enormous arm. He
Speaker 1: had one of the highest big time throw rates in
Speaker 1: all the college football last year. And and Miami. You know, conversely,
Speaker 1: what you know we're talking about Stanford, they actually have
Speaker 1: this skill talent. They also have a pretty good offensive line,
Speaker 1: specifically at offensive tackle this year. So so I tossed him,
Speaker 1: And I think the other guy that you would have
Speaker 1: to make room for is Devin Leary. He's a guy
Speaker 1: who has sort of specific strengths and then and then
Speaker 1: specific weakness. Is the biggest thing he's going to get
Speaker 1: nitpicked about. It's his size, specifically the height. He's six
Speaker 1: foot one. You know, that's something I'm sure we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about with Bryce Young this size, but Leary's a
Speaker 1: little bit on the smaller side, but he does not
Speaker 1: lack a big time arm. He absolutely has an NFL arm.
Speaker 1: He has a very high, you know, big time throw right,
Speaker 1: very high percentage of his yards into tight windows. And
Speaker 1: for a guy like that, what you want to see
Speaker 1: is is he also able to suppress turnovers while he's
Speaker 1: he's trying to fit those balls into tight windows. Devin
Speaker 1: Leary is a quarterback that does that, so you get
Speaker 1: the big time throws you you know, and not at
Speaker 1: the cost of the turnovers. So I think he's another
Speaker 1: one to look at. And then you have for me
Speaker 1: a big sort of tier three after that of guys
Speaker 1: who are just sort of hanging around and lingering um.
Speaker 1: And some examples of names that would be in that
Speaker 1: one Spencer Rattler, who last year at this time would
Speaker 1: have been QB number one. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: by far on the way he was the consensus QB
Speaker 1: one last year did not go as expected for him.
Speaker 1: Maybe a part of that was the Oklahoma coaching staff
Speaker 1: sort of having one foot out the door for half
Speaker 1: this season, and then obviously they had a prodigy behind
Speaker 1: him that they had signed in Caleb Williams Now Spencer
Speaker 1: Rattler goes to South Carolina traditionally not an SEC power,
Speaker 1: But South Carolina did their very good job over the
Speaker 1: offseason signing guys in the transfer portal. They got two
Speaker 1: really good receivers that are that are going to start
Speaker 1: for them that they had signed in Wells and Rutger.
Speaker 1: You put them next to Van, they all of a
Speaker 1: sudden gold now where they have a top half of
Speaker 1: the SEC receiving a room. They also have two NFL
Speaker 1: tight ends in Stagner and then Jack Keane Bello who's
Speaker 1: coming back, and they have several running backs who are
Speaker 1: are power five starting caliber type guys. So Spencer Raller
Speaker 1: is in a position potentially to start quickly. You have
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on him for a bounce back year.
Speaker 1: Phil Jerkovic speaking a bounce backer, you know bounce back seasons.
Speaker 1: Last year a really tough one for him. He thought
Speaker 1: that was going to be his last year in college
Speaker 1: and then he was gonna have this great year, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that he thought in his mind,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, you know, I can come out of
Speaker 1: here be a first or a second round pick. He
Speaker 1: gets knocked out in September with an injury that we
Speaker 1: thought was going to be a season ending injury. He
Speaker 1: was able to rush back, and credit to him because
Speaker 1: he's a really tough kid and he played down the
Speaker 1: stretch the last few games. He was very clearly compromised
Speaker 1: from that injury, So you almost have to toss out
Speaker 1: the statistical profile that he put up last year. But
Speaker 1: he certainly has an NFL frame and an NFL arm
Speaker 1: as well. And a couple other guys for you. Grayson
Speaker 1: McCall is sort of that intriguing small school guy. He
Speaker 1: runs a super duper wonky system at Coastal Carolina. Not
Speaker 1: a ton of it is going to translate to the NFL,
Speaker 1: but we've already seen guys that he has worked with
Speaker 1: that the NFL has placed trust in with draft equity,
Speaker 1: Ija likely being one of the most recent ones in
Speaker 1: the middle rounds by the Ravens, So keep an eye
Speaker 1: on him. He's mobile. He definitely has an NFL arm
Speaker 1: as well, and then a couple other guys. Hending Home
Speaker 1: just had an absolute spectacular season last year with Josh
Speaker 1: with Josh Hoypoll at Tennessee. Um, he's a guy you
Speaker 1: have to look at. Aidan O'Connell I think is super
Speaker 1: underrated from Purdue, mostly because he was totally overlooked as
Speaker 1: a recruit and he walked on at Purdue. And he's
Speaker 1: one of these guys that Bram has built up. Like Bram,
Speaker 1: their coach is sort of this quarterback whisperer, and he
Speaker 1: typically is able to develop guys that that sort of
Speaker 1: far exceed their export, you know, as prospects, and his players,
Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connell is going to be drafted. Do I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be a first or second or even
Speaker 1: a third round pick? Probably not, But that's a guy
Speaker 1: that and the Patriots probably aren't gonna take hi because
Speaker 1: he took Zappy last year and they took Mac Jones
Speaker 1: the year before. But he's the prototypical guy a team
Speaker 1: like the Patriots would take, like in the fifth or
Speaker 1: sixth round, and he's gonna hang around the roster forever.
Speaker 1: I think Aidan O'Connell projects is a really good NFL backup.
Speaker 1: The last guy I have to toss in, uh, you
Speaker 1: just sort of have to is Anthony Richardson from Florida.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, if Thorida doesn't talk about fifteen,
Speaker 1: let's go. Well. I think he changed his number by
Speaker 1: the way, actually, well he changed the nickname. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that, but yeah, he wanted Yeah, But as
Speaker 1: far as he goes, you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: in my industry have had him as a top ten
Speaker 1: or a top fifteen overall prospect heading into this season.
Speaker 1: I can't get there. It reminds me sort of the
Speaker 1: logical fallacy that a lot made the year before with
Speaker 1: Emery Jones, where you had a guy who had intriguing
Speaker 1: physical tools for sure, and he and he only played
Speaker 1: this smattering of snaps and you had a couple of
Speaker 1: flash plays, and so you were just sort of hanging
Speaker 1: the entire evaluation that the hat of the evaluation onto
Speaker 1: that and sort of extrapolating all these different things. Well,
Speaker 1: to do that yet to make several logical leaps to
Speaker 1: get him into the top ten or the top fifteen
Speaker 1: of the preseason, you'll project it. You know. Obviously, Emory
Speaker 1: Jones didn't have the best season last year. Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: probably should have been starting over him. The things that
Speaker 1: you love about Richardson, huge, strapping kid, big time arm,
Speaker 1: awesome athlete, Like those three things are analogous to Dante
Speaker 1: Colepepper in all three different ways. In fact, he's probably
Speaker 1: more athletic than Dante Colepepper. But where the you know,
Speaker 1: I sort of deviate from from the rest of him
Speaker 1: is he is accuracy averse. To this point, we've only
Speaker 1: had the small amount of sample, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: like last year you only had I think seventy five
Speaker 1: drop backs. But he's a kid who is to this
Speaker 1: point struggled to even get like fifty percent, you know,
Speaker 1: to ticket over fifty percent completions. That accuracy is going
Speaker 1: to have to go significantly up for him to you know,
Speaker 1: even be a late first round pick or even a
Speaker 1: top fifty pick. But the physical tools absolutely are there.
Speaker 1: So the thing that you're watching there is can Billy
Speaker 1: Napier and the staff fix him mechanically to the point
Speaker 1: where where the accuracy ticks up and then he becomes
Speaker 1: this legitimate prospect. But like I said, you have to
Speaker 1: toss him in there as as a guy just because
Speaker 1: of that ceiling. Now I know, um, yeah, you alluded
Speaker 1: to the size issue with Bryce Young, the rating Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, and like, I guess that's the thing I
Speaker 1: was talking to friend of the show Cody Carpentier at
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football AXPO in Canton. And I know Cody
Speaker 1: is pretty concerned about the size. I mean, he's like
Speaker 1: six foot one ninety four. I know whenever I watch
Speaker 1: him play, like I want to buy the guy a sandwich.
Speaker 1: And you know that's saying a lot because he's probably
Speaker 1: making more an NIL money then I'm going to make
Speaker 1: in the next or have made in the last two decades.
Speaker 1: But like, do you think that's going to be an
Speaker 1: issue at all for him or our teams? Is he's
Speaker 1: so good that NFL teams might just completely overlook that.
Speaker 1: I would lean more towards the ladder of that. And
Speaker 1: you know, this is more of a scouting philosophy thing,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like if you don't learn from
Speaker 1: the past, you're doomed to repeat it. And one mistake
Speaker 1: that I made with Kyler Murray was putting too much
Speaker 1: stock on his size and that he was not a
Speaker 1: typical type NFL quarterback prospect. I'm not going to make
Speaker 1: that same mistake with Bryce Young, and Bryce Young reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray, I'd be
Speaker 1: a bit more athletic. You might be a bit more
Speaker 1: dangerous as a scrambler, but you know, outside there are
Speaker 1: a ton of similarities. Embrace Young is extremely athletic as well. Um,
Speaker 1: but you have the you have the live arm, absolutely
Speaker 1: NFL arm all day long. He's great in the pocket,
Speaker 1: that the poison everything like that. But the things that
Speaker 1: you would typically associate with smaller quarterbacks, he doesn't have them.
Speaker 1: You know, in terms of he has the NFL arm,
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the you know, an enormous amount of
Speaker 1: passes battered at the line of scrimmage. I'm not concerned
Speaker 1: about it. All right. Um, we should probably shift over
Speaker 1: to running backs and Thor, I mean, you know, Bogman
Speaker 1: is a Texas guy, so I actually have to let
Speaker 1: him that lead off here we're talking about Bijean Robinson
Speaker 1: because I know Bogman is going to give us an
Speaker 1: ode that the Greek poets would be proud of. Here. Um,
Speaker 1: because I know he's he's pretty excited. I have one
Speaker 1: question about Bijean Robinson, and my question is Thor is
Speaker 1: why is Bijean Robinson the best running back on the
Speaker 1: planet right now? Uh? And uh, look, maybe overselling him,
Speaker 1: but I think he's the best running back prospects in
Speaker 1: se Quon. Um, I think he is a no doubt
Speaker 1: unless he gets hurt. First round pick right now, which
Speaker 1: you cannot say for many running backs anymore. Uh Naji
Speaker 1: Uh what was in the first round? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: we're just not gonna see a lot of these running
Speaker 1: backs because the value has been the position has been
Speaker 1: devalued in the NFL. But Bijean is one of these
Speaker 1: rare talents. To me, I describe him as lev Bell
Speaker 1: with speed. That's how I describe him. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have a similar ode, whether it be Greek
Speaker 1: or English to my man b John Robinson, but I
Speaker 1: am smitten and everybody knows him. Well, it's it's funny
Speaker 1: you bring up the name se Quon Barkley. I've already
Speaker 1: created my twenty twenty three NFL draft base and as
Speaker 1: people out there and know if if you read me,
Speaker 1: I do the five hundred comps every every draft process.
Speaker 1: The way that I do that is I'm adding the
Speaker 1: comps as I go. You know, it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: start in March or April. It starts the previous summer.
Speaker 1: The COMPI have for Bijon Robinson is sae Quon Barkley.
Speaker 1: There there are a ton of similarities between the two.
Speaker 1: The versatility, you know, what they give you both in
Speaker 1: the running game and in the passing game. You can
Speaker 1: do all kinds of things with with both those guys
Speaker 1: as a receiver, and there they were both devastating, you
Speaker 1: know with that in college. Um, you know, and again
Speaker 1: just the versatility, say Quan uh, similarly with with Bijon
Speaker 1: in college, so difficult to tackle and just got so many,
Speaker 1: so much production in so many yards after contact. Bijon
Speaker 1: was stupid last year. That he's been stupid since he
Speaker 1: got to college. But last year he was number three
Speaker 1: in the nation with seventy nine broken tackles. He did
Speaker 1: it in only ten games. Because Bogman is you know,
Speaker 1: he got injured for this season against Kansas. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I mean he you know, he got knocked out for
Speaker 1: the last couple but even still, you know, he ranked
Speaker 1: way way high in the broken tackle stuff in a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different metrics in my database, he's right
Speaker 1: damn near the top. If he's not the top guy.
Speaker 1: Alusive writing last year one hundred and fifty three point five,
Speaker 1: top three in the class, and that you know, heading
Speaker 1: into the year, yards after contact perk carry was nearly
Speaker 1: four three point nine four. Receiving grade is great, converts
Speaker 1: the targets into catches. He's also not one of those
Speaker 1: running backs where every target he gets it's just to
Speaker 1: check down behind the line of scrimmage or one of
Speaker 1: those like he actually will go out and run routes
Speaker 1: beyond the line of scrimmage and everything like that. There's
Speaker 1: very little that Bijon Robinson can't do, and the NFL
Speaker 1: is going to get one last opportunity to see him
Speaker 1: if he can carry the load for the entire season
Speaker 1: with an enormous metric ton of touches that are directed
Speaker 1: his way, because obviously that's what happened last year too
Speaker 1: as a true freshman. A part of the reason Tom
Speaker 1: Hermack got fired with because he didn't get Bejean on
Speaker 1: the ball enough. Steve Sarkijan made sure that that was
Speaker 1: not a mistake that he was going to repeat now
Speaker 1: this year, and now that the talent level on Texas
Speaker 1: is up, you know with quinn Ewers and everything like that,
Speaker 1: now we need to see b Jon kerry that load.
Speaker 1: We know he's going to dominate with whatever touches he gets.
Speaker 1: But over the whole course of the season, is he
Speaker 1: to you a first rounder no doubt right now in
Speaker 1: the NFL draft or do you think that, Look, you know,
Speaker 1: the position has been valued so much that he is
Speaker 1: going to be one of those like you know, he
Speaker 1: could be in the first round, maybe a second round
Speaker 1: type of guy, because that's what running back is. Or
Speaker 1: is he that good where he has separated himself. He's not.
Speaker 1: No running backs gonna go in the top ten anymore,
Speaker 1: I don't think, but he's gonna go firmly inside the
Speaker 1: first round. Where do you stand as far as that
Speaker 1: goes right now, knowing it's before the season starts, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know two things. Number one, you know,
Speaker 1: I usually I'm in line with you know them well,
Speaker 1: you know sort of where the NFL has gone or
Speaker 1: you know with this idea that you know, the depression
Speaker 1: of the running back values. But that being said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would view him as a first round pick for sure.
Speaker 1: You know, Like I haven't put together a preseason board
Speaker 1: of them. If I did, he'd absolutely be in the
Speaker 1: top thirty two. He'd probably be the only running back
Speaker 1: in the top thirty two. The way that you know,
Speaker 1: you do analogous to the previous season, sort of get
Speaker 1: yourself like the measuring stick. Last year it was Bree
Speaker 1: Saw and Kenneth Walker. I think I had those two
Speaker 1: guys like I had him right next to each other,
Speaker 1: and I think I ranked him like in the mid thirties,
Speaker 1: you know, like something like like overall, sure, Bijon definitely
Speaker 1: is a step ahead of those guys. Each of them
Speaker 1: is a legitimate step up, maybe even a step and
Speaker 1: a half up or so, So I you know, I
Speaker 1: would probably have him more in the range of where
Speaker 1: now where I ranked Nadre Harris, but where Nadre Harris
Speaker 1: got drafted, you know, like in that yeah twenty range,
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Speaker 1: My question about the rest of this class, the beyond
Speaker 1: Bijeans is what we should call the rest of this
Speaker 1: class just after a B after Beijean, the rest of
Speaker 1: this class it is I see a lot of skill here.
Speaker 1: I don't know if um I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a ton of depth. I know that I
Speaker 1: like Jamir Gibbs Outabama. I mean the guy was a
Speaker 1: stud at Georgia Tech, and then he goes over to Alabama.
Speaker 1: I expect him to have a you know, potentially Heisman
Speaker 1: level season, so I think he's gonna get a big
Speaker 1: bunch of run after that. I think there are some questions.
Speaker 1: I like Sean Tucker, I like Zach Evans. You and
Speaker 1: I both love Duchevon, but he has size issues. Who
Speaker 1: would you put immediately after bijon U? Like, what is
Speaker 1: your what does your next tier look like? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: certainly Jamir Gibbs would be in a certainly Zach Evans
Speaker 1: would be in it. I would also toss au Chain
Speaker 1: into it for sure, although he's he's a very interesting
Speaker 1: press like. I'm sure we'll talk about him more in
Speaker 1: depth in a second. A couple of the other guys
Speaker 1: that I would throw in there. I like Blake Korum.
Speaker 1: I want to see Blake Coorum over the horse of
Speaker 1: the season as the one A of you know, where
Speaker 1: he's the guy who's starting, and he's Haskins was the
Speaker 1: guy last year exactly. Yeah, and now now Koram's going
Speaker 1: to become the one A and now Edwards is going
Speaker 1: to be his one B. But you know, and now
Speaker 1: the defenses have to prepare more for him and they
Speaker 1: don't have you know, where Hassan Haskins is wearing them
Speaker 1: down and then Koram comes in with like his you know,
Speaker 1: high four or three speed and it's just running by
Speaker 1: everyone when when they're already gassed. I want to see
Speaker 1: him at the beginning of the game using that explosion.
Speaker 1: I really like him as a prospect and just super
Speaker 1: duper explosive. But that's where I want to see from
Speaker 1: him this year. I think Kenny mackintosh he's underrated from Georgia.
Speaker 1: He's a kid who can do all kinds of different things,
Speaker 1: and he's awesome on passing downs as well. But as
Speaker 1: you guys know, Georgie's backfield has been so effica the
Speaker 1: last three years. Even the you know Kenny backintosh there,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm one of the best, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: pass catching backs in America and I can't even get
Speaker 1: on the field on third downs on this friggin team
Speaker 1: because of James Cook. But now you know, with with
Speaker 1: James Cook, gone was a mere white gun. Now Kenny
Speaker 1: McIntosh gets the step to the forefront. M So you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be a guy. I think to look
Speaker 1: at he. I think he's gonna take a big step
Speaker 1: forward this year, and then a couple other home run
Speaker 1: hitters out the door. Zach Charbonet, previously at Michigan and
Speaker 1: then went down to UCLA, has been spectacular in Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly system. Like it's that home run hitter, a sprinter,
Speaker 1: and then a guy who's even faster than him. Maybe
Speaker 1: not as many people have seen him, just because the
Speaker 1: school he's played at. Sean Tucker from Syracuse is an
Speaker 1: absolute burner, Like that's the whole offense there, right thor
Speaker 1: absolutely yeah? I mean, and Dino Baber's change the entire
Speaker 1: way that he sees offensive philosophy. Well, in large part
Speaker 1: because of Shaun Tucker, also because Dino has made some
Speaker 1: mistakes with quarterback evaluation. But it specifically, it's the offense
Speaker 1: has become get the ball to Shaan Tucker early often
Speaker 1: and as much as he can possibly handle. I really
Speaker 1: like Sean Tucker too him. Yeah, I mean, like with
Speaker 1: the speed in this class. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people were excited about the speed of this year's running
Speaker 1: back class at the Combine. But man next year with
Speaker 1: Tucker and Charbonnet, you know, fly freed from the constraints
Speaker 1: of the the Jim Harbaugh offense and getting to show
Speaker 1: his stuff. But the guy, like, I want to drill
Speaker 1: down with you a little bit on thor is a
Speaker 1: chain devon chain of Texas, A and M. Because this
Speaker 1: dude has like I mean, this is like a sub
Speaker 1: four three guy and um, you know obviously this is
Speaker 1: not going to be a between the tackles guy at
Speaker 1: the NFL level, But um, I mean, is this guy
Speaker 1: instantly gonna walk in somewhere and and be a third
Speaker 1: down back for someone? Or It's like, is there any
Speaker 1: fear that this guy could be a who was your
Speaker 1: your boy Bogman? Was that dry archer? Like yeah, those
Speaker 1: type of guys that have all the speed but no
Speaker 1: no brains. Yeah, I mean because like a chain man,
Speaker 1: like he is so exciting. He is, yeah, stupid exciting.
Speaker 1: You know, the last couple of years they had they're
Speaker 1: starting running back was or there, you know, the top
Speaker 1: guy in the committee whatever was an NFL guy who
Speaker 1: we just saw drafted in April, Ja Speller who who
Speaker 1: got a lot of ink. Devin Ajay was better than
Speaker 1: I Spiller whenever he stepped on into the field. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, Spiller had already established that job.
Speaker 1: And then I think too with with with ache because
Speaker 1: of the size. You know, he's only five nine one
Speaker 1: eighty five. Initially during his career, I think Jimbo wanted
Speaker 1: to work him in off the bench, you know, as
Speaker 1: a situational guy, keep the touches down and and and
Speaker 1: sort of see, you know, can can you hold up?
Speaker 1: What's the durability like there? Um, it's been pretty solid
Speaker 1: so far with that, you know, staying on the field
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And the thing where he's impressed,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean beyond what we already know about
Speaker 1: being a world class sprinter is he breaks a lot
Speaker 1: more tackles than you would think. He is very hard
Speaker 1: to get your hands on. You know, power people typically
Speaker 1: think of power running power and field power by like
Speaker 1: muscles and stuff like that. But you know, you have
Speaker 1: to think of what's the Einstein equation, where it's it's
Speaker 1: speed plus plus fours going forward. The guys who just
Speaker 1: run breakneck fast, fearless like and you know going forward
Speaker 1: like that, Um, they're not only hard to square up
Speaker 1: with with the angles, but they derive power just by
Speaker 1: the speed that they're going down the field this breakneck speed.
Speaker 1: So you are not getting Devin a chain down with
Speaker 1: an arm tackle as long as he got a three
Speaker 1: step you know, he got three step head start. Um,
Speaker 1: you you're gonna need to put your shoulder pads in,
Speaker 1: you know, into his waist to get him down and
Speaker 1: wrap them up. Good. Um. I love all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I love that he's verse at all. You mentioned Pat
Speaker 1: that he does not project as a between the tackles
Speaker 1: guy in the NFL, but he is going to be
Speaker 1: really damn explosive outside the tackles, and you can do
Speaker 1: all kinds of things with him as a receiver as well.
Speaker 1: He proved to be a fact, he's already proved to
Speaker 1: be a fabulous receiver at A and M. I think
Speaker 1: that they're going to give him a lot more work
Speaker 1: with that this fall as well. So he's a he's
Speaker 1: a prospect. Absolutely to keep your eye on James Cook
Speaker 1: or Devin a chain. I would take a chain over
Speaker 1: him for sure. Okay, Yeah, that's what I like James
Speaker 1: Cook a lot too, So I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: know me, I don't want to give credit to an
Speaker 1: M but dely amazing amazing running back are there any
Speaker 1: other running backs that we didn't hit. Thor before we
Speaker 1: go to wide receivers and just want to make sure
Speaker 1: we get all of those we got. Ask Thor about
Speaker 1: mo Ebrahim, I mean he's up there in minnister Ebrahim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a tragic that, like he's coming off the
Speaker 1: Achilles injury, but like if he can make a cam
Speaker 1: Akers like come back here, is there an NFL future
Speaker 1: for him? He's another guy Thor that's like a lot
Speaker 1: like Tucker where he was a lot of the offense.
Speaker 1: Although they had they had other pieces there, he was
Speaker 1: the big part. He was the main, the main attraction
Speaker 1: of this Gopher's offense for sure, right A thousand percent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, go turn back the clock exactly one
Speaker 1: year from right now. It's not going to be exactly
Speaker 1: to the day, but I believe we're within two days
Speaker 1: of it. Gophers opened the season on Thursday night at
Speaker 1: home against the Ohio State University, and the Gophers were
Speaker 1: giving Ohio State everything they could handle through about three
Speaker 1: and a half quarters until the exact second to Mobrahim
Speaker 1: went down with that knee injury. Right after that, the
Speaker 1: entire game flipped in Ohio State ended up winning by
Speaker 1: ten or fourteen or whatever it was. If Ibrahim had
Speaker 1: stayed healthy in that game, we had a real shot
Speaker 1: for an enormous upset to kick off the college football season.
Speaker 1: He's such a big part of what Minnesota does, and
Speaker 1: especially on that team, he would have been so devastating,
Speaker 1: which is why it's so sad that he got injured,
Speaker 1: because they had that enormous modeling offensive line, you know,
Speaker 1: with Daniel Filele and Blaze Andrews was a guy who
Speaker 1: you know, got an NFL look. I didn't see if
Speaker 1: he made his roster or whatever, but they had, you know,
Speaker 1: multiple NFL guys. The one offensive lineman that they have
Speaker 1: backed this year, John Michael schmidts the center is the
Speaker 1: best center in America. But a lot of the guy.
Speaker 1: He might be the only returning start they have on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. They might have one other one, but
Speaker 1: it might just just be the one. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how Ibrahim's game translates behind you know,
Speaker 1: what you would think would be a lesser offensive line.
Speaker 1: But he's a really good talent. He's not what he
Speaker 1: is not is like these guys that were talking about,
Speaker 1: like Tucker Charbonnet, oh Chan. He is not the sprinter.
Speaker 1: He is not the home run hitter. He is the
Speaker 1: bowling ball between the tackles who has really good contact balance.
Speaker 1: He's gonna bounce out, you know. He's like the spinning
Speaker 1: top and inception. He's just gonna bounce off one guy.
Speaker 1: You know, the totem. You're gonna bounce off people, and
Speaker 1: it's really really hard to get that guy off of
Speaker 1: his feet. He reminds me a little bit. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of exposure to this other guy because of
Speaker 1: where he went to undergrad and obviously I have a
Speaker 1: lot of exposure to Ibraheim being in Minneapolis. He reminds
Speaker 1: me a bit of Khalil Herbert, you know who I
Speaker 1: got to watch a lot of earlier in his career
Speaker 1: at Kansas. Might not quite have Khalil Herbert's high end speed,
Speaker 1: but like in terms of being that bowling ball, built
Speaker 1: load of the ground, bouncing off of guys and stuff
Speaker 1: like that difficult to put away behind the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: I see a lot of similarities between those two guys.
Speaker 1: Just want to see how Ibraheim looks this year coming
Speaker 1: off of that knee injury. So looking at the Minnesota
Speaker 1: offensive line. Like you said, John Michael schmidts in the middle.
Speaker 1: Then they have two transfers on the right side, Chuck
Speaker 1: and Quinna and Quinn Carrol Notre Damn. Yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: then Axel rutsch Meyer had he had three hundred eighty
Speaker 1: two snaps last year. Tackle uh eronaut a Ursery only
Speaker 1: seventy three snaps from last season or three snaps from
Speaker 1: last season. So uh so, not a lot of starting
Speaker 1: experience on that line, like you said, So Abraham's gonna
Speaker 1: have to bring it for sure. You just hope that
Speaker 1: it's that that that offensive line, it does not become
Speaker 1: the situation that you saw at Iowa last year. You know,
Speaker 1: Iowa always has the awesome offensive line. Then last year,
Speaker 1: heading into this season, they had lost some of their
Speaker 1: guards and tackles in the NFL, but they had the
Speaker 1: best center in America coming back in Linderbaum. So everyone
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you know, this offensive line is gonna
Speaker 1: be really good. It actually wasn't. It stunk. Even though
Speaker 1: Linderbaum had the best PFF graded season for a center
Speaker 1: of all time the guards and the tackles, he was
Speaker 1: the worst garden tackle play that Iowa had had an
Speaker 1: over twenty years that I'm taking that quote from Scott
Speaker 1: Dockerman that they're great beat reporter, but we we want
Speaker 1: to see is Minnesota. Is that a lining gonna be
Speaker 1: any better? The better it is is good, the better
Speaker 1: off it's gonna be for for Ibraheim. But he does
Speaker 1: have the game where he can he can sort of
Speaker 1: fight people off buying the line of scrimmins, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of like we would see with David Montgomery at
Speaker 1: Ioways State where every time he got the ball he
Speaker 1: just had to throw people off on behind the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmin. I hope that's not what it's gonna Beham
Speaker 1: this year, but well we'll see, especially coming off an injury,
Speaker 1: hopefully you can get a couple of lanes to run through.
Speaker 1: You're ready to go over to white outs fits. I'll
Speaker 1: let you kick whiteouts off. What do you got? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's do it? Thor I mean, is this what is?
Speaker 1: I guess where it is your tier one? Uh? And
Speaker 1: like Jackson Smith and Jig But from Ohio State, k
Speaker 1: Shaun Boutet from LSU. Uh, does it go down to
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison at USC and is there anyone else on
Speaker 1: that that top tier. Yeah, I would definitely have those three.
Speaker 1: The one other name that I would toss into that
Speaker 1: as Quintin Johnson from TCU, who I think is an
Speaker 1: absolute monster um and I think this year we're going
Speaker 1: to see him with Quentin Johnson because now TCU was
Speaker 1: going into an air raid with the quarterback that is
Speaker 1: equipped to run the air in this chandeler Morris get
Speaker 1: last couple of years, Quentin Johnson has been in a
Speaker 1: difficult spot where the physical talent was always a pairing
Speaker 1: with him, but he's been working with this quarterback Max Duegan,
Speaker 1: who it's like this big duel threat who had a
Speaker 1: big arm. But going back to the accurate accuracy aversion thing,
Speaker 1: Max Dugan couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, which
Speaker 1: is why he's not going to be starting talk any
Speaker 1: smack about Max Dugan. You know that he ran all
Speaker 1: over Texas twice, so I got no room to stand
Speaker 1: on there. So but yeah, I think I think you
Speaker 1: definitely put Johnson into that preseason tier four. So for me,
Speaker 1: it would be four guys in that tier one. So
Speaker 1: I have to ask, like about Johnson, like he is
Speaker 1: the one guy in that group who's got size, Like
Speaker 1: the other guys are all about six six feet, right
Speaker 1: around six feet, and he's six four and runs a
Speaker 1: four four. So can he get into the first round? Absolutely? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think so. Yeah, you have the imposing size.
Speaker 1: You have a true boundary receiver. You know, some of
Speaker 1: these other guys are either slots or else they they
Speaker 1: move around. Quentin Johnson is a peer of Sitting dead Red.
Speaker 1: He is a boundary receiver that says what he is
Speaker 1: and an enormous, big, big play threat. Makes makes plays
Speaker 1: down the field, but also is awesome after the catch.
Speaker 1: So you get the two for one on that. It's
Speaker 1: not just that the tossing it up deep and he
Speaker 1: skys up for it. Um, you get it to him
Speaker 1: in the intermediate area where he's you know, you hit
Speaker 1: him on the hands going across the middle, he's gonna
Speaker 1: break a tackle er too, Um he had. He's only
Speaker 1: had fifty five career catches to this point, in part
Speaker 1: because of the thing I was talking about um with
Speaker 1: you know, with Dugan and stuff like that. Johnson's also
Speaker 1: had a couple of minor injuries that that costs him time.
Speaker 1: So so because of that, he only has the fifty
Speaker 1: five catches. He's had twenty six career broken tackles amongst that,
Speaker 1: which a really high percentage per catch. So he's really
Speaker 1: dangerous there. Um, what you want to see from him,
Speaker 1: it's he's had some concentration drops. I think you know
Speaker 1: that's one thing that that that you want to him
Speaker 1: to clean up. Last year was a little bit better
Speaker 1: with that. Um'm this is something from from earlier and
Speaker 1: it's career that would be the big thing. But like
Speaker 1: as far as like frame and athleticism, he's already got that.
Speaker 1: And let's just see now how he acclimates towards towards
Speaker 1: the air raid. Uh. It's also with Quentin Johnston. I
Speaker 1: mean you look at that top tier. If that is
Speaker 1: the top tier, and you know it's early, things could change,
Speaker 1: guys could get hurt, whatever. But if that's the top tier,
Speaker 1: he's the only guy well over six feet tall six
Speaker 1: foot four, and the other guys are short. And we
Speaker 1: just saw what happened to Drake London go to the
Speaker 1: very top of the board with that imposing size at
Speaker 1: six five. So that's definitely something to think about. Two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Bogman to that point during Drake London's draft process.
Speaker 1: Most people would talk about the contested catchability down the
Speaker 1: field and everything that Drake Drake London could do down
Speaker 1: the field, which was great, you know. I mean he
Speaker 1: could do those things and he was awesome at those things.
Speaker 1: The one thing that was undersold about a Drake London's
Speaker 1: game was his ability to do damage in the you know,
Speaker 1: getting the ball in the short sector and in the
Speaker 1: intermediate sector and then running after the catching break in
Speaker 1: the tackle. So I love that you brought his name up.
Speaker 1: Visa Johnston. Yeah, it's the size. It's the size, It's
Speaker 1: not just you know, it's the contested catch and then
Speaker 1: being able to shirk off those tiny corners because all
Speaker 1: the corners are tiny compared to the whiteouts. Because if
Speaker 1: you have a tall, fast guy that can catch, he
Speaker 1: goes to white out first before he goes to corner.
Speaker 1: Which is why we have all these amazing wide receiver
Speaker 1: classes recently and thor this class outside of the top depth,
Speaker 1: which you did a great job of nailing down that
Speaker 1: that like top four tier who is next and isn't
Speaker 1: really decided because there is so much talent across the country.
Speaker 1: It's hard to nail down. I mean, there are some
Speaker 1: names that I like that I see on a lot
Speaker 1: of lists at Perry another guy with size six to
Speaker 1: five out of wake four as Raking Jared, a high
Speaker 1: recruit out of Maryland. They also have Dante Demas, Josh
Speaker 1: Downs from UNC, Parker Washington from Penn State, and Bama
Speaker 1: guys Tyler Harrold probably has to show up on this list.
Speaker 1: Do you have UM? It's just so much after that
Speaker 1: initial top tier. Who is in that second tier? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hit on a lot of them right there. A
Speaker 1: couple of names that you didn't hit on that I
Speaker 1: would also toss out. I don't think he said Cedric Tillman,
Speaker 1: I probably toasted him out. A big outside receiver, I'd
Speaker 1: probably tossed him Marvin Mims from from Oklahoma. He's an
Speaker 1: interesting guy that he's smaller and he's very very thin,
Speaker 1: but his ball skills are awesome, like even downfield. So
Speaker 1: I'm definitely a believer in his UM. Going back to
Speaker 1: Texas A and m Annias Smith is a guy who
Speaker 1: is He's one of those like RB dash wide receivers
Speaker 1: that can do Alison is right, Yeah, backfield, put him
Speaker 1: out in the slot. You can play him out wide
Speaker 1: if you want, you can shift him around the formation.
Speaker 1: He's more offensive weapon than he is either running back
Speaker 1: or receiver. But you're gonna see him I think more
Speaker 1: way more receiver this coming fall. Because we mentioned not
Speaker 1: Chan and L. J. Johnson's the five star that they
Speaker 1: have and and and I'm just stacked in the backfield.
Speaker 1: I think those guys would probably be That would probably
Speaker 1: be who I would toss out for those Zay Flowers
Speaker 1: too from from BC. You know, great downfield guy another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it feels like it has to be a
Speaker 1: pretty solid wide receiver class when you've gotten not one.
Speaker 1: It's rare enough to get one good receiver prospect from
Speaker 1: Maryland liked J. Moore a couple of years ago, but
Speaker 1: to have two from Maryland, Like, come on, So, do
Speaker 1: you get a sense of like how we're going to
Speaker 1: look at this wide receiver class um next spring when
Speaker 1: we're getting ready for our dynasty rookie drafts, Like compared
Speaker 1: to this class, the class of twenty twenty two, Like,
Speaker 1: do you think this class is going to top end
Speaker 1: because of the class of twenty twenty two? I mean,
Speaker 1: not a bad wide receiver class at all. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't at all. And one of the stories of
Speaker 1: the draft is you guys, know, was the receiver's getting
Speaker 1: yanked up the board, you know, relative to when we
Speaker 1: thought coming in. I think it was one of those
Speaker 1: where that receiver class, you know, in the months leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, some people kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say ripped it, but kind of
Speaker 1: poo pooed what it actually was. And then that's why
Speaker 1: that you were so surprised as the draft was going
Speaker 1: when all these guys start getting yanked up. I think
Speaker 1: this class is kind of similar in that, you know,
Speaker 1: I see a very similar amount of guys that I
Speaker 1: would sort of right now consider Round one type guys,
Speaker 1: Round two guys to the numbers that we got from
Speaker 1: last year. But there is still quite a bit of
Speaker 1: fluidity there, you know, of of guys that that could
Speaker 1: still jump up. There's guys that we need to see
Speaker 1: in bigger roles. Parker Washington from Penn State would be
Speaker 1: an example of this. Where last year he plays predominantly
Speaker 1: in the slide. He's probably a slot guy in the NFL,
Speaker 1: but he was playing next to the target home John
Speaker 1: Dots and the Round one kid. This year Parker Washington.
Speaker 1: He's going to be the guy who gets who gets
Speaker 1: pounded with targets. So it'll be interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 1: how you can do that. And then some of these
Speaker 1: other different guys that are moving into bigger roles. I
Speaker 1: want to see, for instance, Cedric Tillman. Cedric Tillman last
Speaker 1: year had awesome production at Tennessee when he was the
Speaker 1: very clear number one guy. Well, he's not the spectacular
Speaker 1: athlete that some of these other guys are. Josh Hypel
Speaker 1: is one of the best schemers and play callers offensively
Speaker 1: that we have in college football. He's Josh Hypel's schemes
Speaker 1: receivers and tight ends open maybe better than any coach
Speaker 1: in America. And so you have that, and then Tilman.
Speaker 1: This year, Tennessee's receiving corps suddenly gotten extremely deep with
Speaker 1: Brue McCoy being granted eligibility the former five star. So
Speaker 1: I want to see Cedric Tillman do what he did
Speaker 1: last year but also exceeded as well. Is there any
Speaker 1: other like secret wide receiver, any sleeper wide receiver that
Speaker 1: you're like, you haven't heard a lot of people talk about,
Speaker 1: or maybe he's just less published or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is gonna be my guy. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for this guy to show everybody what he's got.
Speaker 1: Who is that guy? I would toss out a couple
Speaker 1: of names on that. This kid I don't know exactly,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to like plant my flag on
Speaker 1: him because he's so unorthodox as a prospect, but he's
Speaker 1: also an unorthodox college football player and he has been
Speaker 1: dominating people from day one, taking Dell at Houston. I
Speaker 1: also think it's hilarious that a guy who's one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty nine pounds has the nicknamed tank Um. But
Speaker 1: he's a guy who who again one of these guys
Speaker 1: we talked about where you just pound him with targets.
Speaker 1: He got absolutely pounded by targets by by Clayton Tune
Speaker 1: last year, and that that is going to happen again.
Speaker 1: Very very gifted playmaker, but again he is way way
Speaker 1: on the thin side. The last couple of years, though,
Speaker 1: we have seen one receiver in each class that got
Speaker 1: drafted in this similar vein Um last year Calvin Osten,
Speaker 1: and then the year before two two out well, so
Speaker 1: it's you know, in two two is more of two
Speaker 1: two is like either through the ball to him short,
Speaker 1: like really short, like within three yards of line script
Speaker 1: or you sun him deep. Yeah, like he didn't do
Speaker 1: anything in the intermediate Tacker Dell can do more stuff
Speaker 1: like that. He's a more diversified kind of guy. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he has the trump card speed for instance,
Speaker 1: that an at Well does, but he's a guy to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. I would also say, near me,
Speaker 1: one guy that I think is is flying a little
Speaker 1: bit under the radar as Chris Mnbell for Minnesota. He's
Speaker 1: a guy like you know, going back like two or
Speaker 1: three years ago, I guess three years ago when Tyler
Speaker 1: Johnson was still in college, there is a scout that
Speaker 1: told me Chris Ahmanbell is the you know that he's
Speaker 1: a better NFL player, that he's going to be an NFL,
Speaker 1: better NFL player than Tyler Johnson is. Um it's because
Speaker 1: of the athleticism. Um, Chris Almondbell has that his athleticism.
Speaker 1: It's it's not on Rashad Bateman's level, but it's certainly
Speaker 1: closer to that than it is is Tyler Johnson's. So
Speaker 1: I think that would be another guy to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on. I love it I love the under the
Speaker 1: radar guys and the skinny guys like uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: they're also anyone that's undersized. I'm for because I'm also
Speaker 1: short undersized, so I like it. I like advocating for
Speaker 1: those guys. Uh. This tight end class store, isn't you know?
Speaker 1: I don't know if this this is gonna be another
Speaker 1: class where we're going, all right, well we have a
Speaker 1: big one, but after that, I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: anything else. I know, Michael Mayor seems like the guy.
Speaker 1: I think this is a guy that Pat likes to right,
Speaker 1: So how good is Michael Mayer and where do we
Speaker 1: have to put him? Right now? Michael Mayer is awesome.
Speaker 1: Michael Mayer is going to go on the top half
Speaker 1: of the first round. The the impediment to him going
Speaker 1: as high as what his skill level is because skill wise,
Speaker 1: there are it is hard to find tight ends that
Speaker 1: come into the NFL that are as skilled just skills
Speaker 1: like as he is. Tight Ends don't go into college
Speaker 1: going to blue blood power five programs and lead the
Speaker 1: team in receiving from year one and then year two
Speaker 1: and then year three like Michael Mayer has. That just
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. But Michael Mayer is doing that because he's
Speaker 1: so freaking skilled big kids six five, two fifty. Again,
Speaker 1: the receiving skills are awesome. The one thing, though, that
Speaker 1: he does not have is the elite, elite athleticism. You know,
Speaker 1: it looks like he's gonna be more like you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely not gonna be anywhere near like
Speaker 1: a Kyle Pitts guy. But you know where exactly is
Speaker 1: he gonna run. Is it gonna be like high four
Speaker 1: or fives, mid four or five? Is gonna be low
Speaker 1: four to six? Is that we have to see. But
Speaker 1: the lack of home run speed is going to be
Speaker 1: the one impediment with him. He has absolutely everything else
Speaker 1: you would want, including scheme versatility. You can play that
Speaker 1: kid wherever you want, put him in line and put
Speaker 1: him outside, shift them around, and put him in the
Speaker 1: backfield as a lead blocker even if you want, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want with him. The kids great, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: is there there's so much steak in this draft draft
Speaker 1: for that? You know, it's like talking about the tight
Speaker 1: end class is like talking about the soup at a steakhouse.
Speaker 1: It is it deep beyond mayor like, are there other
Speaker 1: guys that we're going to be interested in taking in
Speaker 1: like the third round of Dynasty rookie drafts next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I like this tight end class for sure. The
Speaker 1: one other guy that could jump way up there easily,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean this guy actually could go ahead
Speaker 1: of Michael Mayor is Eric Gilbert. We just have to
Speaker 1: see him on the field this coming season. He missed
Speaker 1: last season, um, some of off field stuff. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like getting in trouble with a lot or anything, but
Speaker 1: like he just had to get get right to get
Speaker 1: back on the field for this coming season. He's the
Speaker 1: closest thing on the field that we have seen to
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. Since Kyle Pitts left. Um, you know George
Speaker 1: Pickens left. People think that maybe, you know, how are
Speaker 1: you going to replace George Pickens. They're looking around the
Speaker 1: Georgia receivers. It's not in the receiver room how you're
Speaker 1: going to replace George Pickts. Eric Gilbert is replacing George Pickts.
Speaker 1: He's the downfield guy who's gonna make it. Already have
Speaker 1: the tight end of Bowers, who uh you know, would
Speaker 1: would be even ahead of Mayor. If you know if
Speaker 1: if he was eligible this year, but he's not eligible.
Speaker 1: Thousand percent. Yeah, I mean, you want to talk about
Speaker 1: a tight end room, Georgia is the best tight end
Speaker 1: room we've seen since Iowa had Hawkinson and Fan, you know,
Speaker 1: between Bowers Gilbert and then Darnel Washington. Darnel Washington not
Speaker 1: as much of a name for dynasty guys because he's
Speaker 1: more of like a third tackle, you know, he's just
Speaker 1: like this enormous kid who's just a crushing blocker. But um,
Speaker 1: he's absolutely gonna get drafted as well. And then some
Speaker 1: other guys like um, Sam Laporta from Iowa is very
Speaker 1: very good and I was gonna get back to more
Speaker 1: of the two tight end sets this year because their
Speaker 1: backup tight end is this like a hot shot prospect
Speaker 1: as well. But Laporta is another one of those guys
Speaker 1: that easily led his team in catches last year, like
Speaker 1: it wasn't even close that the second guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the case again where they pound him with targets.
Speaker 1: Very skilled as a receiver and he's a true in
Speaker 1: line you know sort of I guess you would say
Speaker 1: dual threat tight end guy out of the end line
Speaker 1: that blocks his butt off, and also as a skilled receiver,
Speaker 1: he the knock on him. It'd be the same thing
Speaker 1: I said about Mayor and that he can't run in
Speaker 1: the high four fours, you know, but like you know,
Speaker 1: outside of that, you know, you have a lot of
Speaker 1: different stuff. I like the kid from Stanford Urask is
Speaker 1: pretty good. U Michigan's got a solid guy coming up
Speaker 1: in eric All. I mentioned before that South Carolina had
Speaker 1: two guys that I think are are probably gonna get
Speaker 1: drafted and Jack Kieman Bell and Austin Stagner. M those
Speaker 1: would be a couple of the other guys that I
Speaker 1: would toss off for that. M Alabama has a good
Speaker 1: one too in Lots and then because of a lot
Speaker 1: too there Uh, the other guy they had last year, Billingsley.
Speaker 1: He transferred to Texas and Billingsley should have a pretty
Speaker 1: good year this year because Sark knows how to use
Speaker 1: tight ends really well as well. Thank god we haven't
Speaker 1: had a tight end for you know. I think bow
Speaker 1: Melton was the last one of Texas, so I'm excited
Speaker 1: about Billingsley. So now that we've got dynasty managers licking
Speaker 1: their chops about this class, let me ask you guys.
Speaker 1: This when when we're doing our dynasty drafts getting ready
Speaker 1: for them next year, we've got these terrific quarterback prospects.
Speaker 1: Um you know, the top of the list is a
Speaker 1: couple of guys who are are run past dual threats,
Speaker 1: and everyone loves those guys. In super flex leagues where
Speaker 1: the quarterback value is pushed up, do we think it's
Speaker 1: going to be a quarterback going one on one and
Speaker 1: most drafts next year or Bijan Robinson answer says, of course.
Speaker 1: For me, like standard leagues, for sure, Bijan would be
Speaker 1: number one on and in super flex for me, he
Speaker 1: would be number three. Like in super Flex, I don't
Speaker 1: see how you could take him over Stroud and Young
Speaker 1: just because they're they're so good. But Bijeon is crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy good too. I would take him over all those
Speaker 1: other second and third tier quarterbacks we were talking about
Speaker 1: for sure. Certainly take him over the receivers that we
Speaker 1: discussed on this episode, just because again he is so
Speaker 1: you know, I see him a sort of analogous to
Speaker 1: like a se quon, But yeah, I in a super flex,
Speaker 1: I would have to put Strout and Young above him.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the opposite of what we had this year.
Speaker 1: This year it was like, well, we have these two
Speaker 1: good running backs at the top, so you kind of
Speaker 1: have to take them, and then only one QB. So
Speaker 1: maybe Kenny Pickett goes third. But in terms of skill,
Speaker 1: you know, most of the time you're looking for with
Speaker 1: those running backs over the quarterbacks. So kind of the
Speaker 1: opposite this year, where yes, I agree that in a
Speaker 1: lot of scenarios it's just going to matter what you
Speaker 1: already have on your team or whatever. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's Bichean Bijeon is unbelievable. He's like, even if he
Speaker 1: played at A and M or A Oklahoma, I would
Speaker 1: be this excited about Beijan as well. It's not just
Speaker 1: because of the love of Texas. Of course, I watched
Speaker 1: Texas more so I get a little bit more hyped
Speaker 1: about this guy. But it was just like watching his
Speaker 1: highlights from high school when he played in Tucson, and
Speaker 1: seeing him at the high school level take wide receiver
Speaker 1: snaps and go embody up good corners in Tucson and
Speaker 1: run strong routes and have patience at the line. These
Speaker 1: are the recruiting videos I was watching in Tucson. Behind
Speaker 1: you know who guys that are mechanics now at that
Speaker 1: offensive line, I'm sure whatever versus you know, going into
Speaker 1: the big twelve and rushing behind decent offensive lineman. I
Speaker 1: just think the kid is incredible and I'm very very
Speaker 1: excited about him, and I get to watch him every week,
Speaker 1: so it all adds up for me. Look, Thor, you
Speaker 1: are awesome. You are perfect for this show. We love
Speaker 1: having you. I do have one more question for you,
Speaker 1: just since we have a little time at the end.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of good defensive prospects coming out
Speaker 1: in this uh in this class here can you give us?
Speaker 1: I mean, we obviously know will Anderson's like one one
Speaker 1: best player in the country would have been the first
Speaker 1: pick in this draft this year, So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people know about Willie Anderson. Are they any
Speaker 1: other defensive prospects that you're like, Hey, this guy is
Speaker 1: a surefire first round, no doubter, and who are they?
Speaker 1: Just so we have a little list from my ID peers,
Speaker 1: I gotta give them some love for sure. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm happy I got another shot to talk because I
Speaker 1: forgot one name on the tight endless and I was
Speaker 1: gonna be kicking myself later. Is Zach Coons from Old Dominion.
Speaker 1: I have to shout out Old Dominion. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: totally miss him. But yeah, Zach Coons was like, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the top five tight end recruits when he's
Speaker 1: coming out of high school, signed with Penn State. Then
Speaker 1: then he transfers to Odu before the twenty season exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who had been his offensive coordinator before at Penn State.
Speaker 1: But then Odu did not play in twenty twenty. So
Speaker 1: Zach Coons is totally off the radar last year and
Speaker 1: just absolutely dominated. It's easily the best few five tight
Speaker 1: end um, and I think he's got a solid shot
Speaker 1: to go on day two. So I had to say that, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: Will Anderson is one of the best defensive protects that
Speaker 1: we've seen in years. So yeah, him for sure. But
Speaker 1: beyond that, um, there's a couple of carters. People got
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Jalen Carter from Georgia, who
Speaker 1: was you know, being shuttled in you know, and on
Speaker 1: that ridiculous defensive front that that Georgia had last year.
Speaker 1: So he has not gotten the amount of snaps you know,
Speaker 1: for instance, that I Will and Anderson has or some
Speaker 1: of these other like you know, surefire round one type defenders. Um.
Speaker 1: But but it's just been uber uber disruptive when he
Speaker 1: has been on the field. UM. In his his stat
Speaker 1: you know, on a person nap basis, he has been
Speaker 1: more impressive than for instance, like a Treyvon Walker who
Speaker 1: went number one overall. So he's a guy to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. UM. I think another a Carter um
Speaker 1: And this one's super interesting because this kid plays on Army.
Speaker 1: But Andre Carter is an awesome, awesome defender and in
Speaker 1: an edge defender. He also has an NFL body and
Speaker 1: seems to have NFL athleticism too. I'll be interested to
Speaker 1: see when when he ends up testing. But Army actually
Speaker 1: has a prospect on their team that that very well
Speaker 1: may go in the first round. Uh So those would
Speaker 1: be a couple of guys I toss out, And then
Speaker 1: you have to look at Clemson two. Um, Clemson is
Speaker 1: going to have their front seven is stupid. It's absolutely stupid.
Speaker 1: It's it's sort of harkening back to the Lawrence team
Speaker 1: that won the title where they had like the four
Speaker 1: defensive linemen and three of them went in the you know,
Speaker 1: the first round, and the other one went on maybe
Speaker 1: Day two or whatever, but it's similar to that. And
Speaker 1: then in the linebackers, Um, the Simpson kid, he's not
Speaker 1: the exact same thing as like Simmons, you know, like
Speaker 1: Ijaiah Simmons with it said, he's not the hybridy type. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think Simpson's fit is more uh clear and
Speaker 1: easy into the NFL where you don't have to be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, exactly what position would he be best at?
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Like with Simpson, he's plugging play. You know
Speaker 1: that that he's going to take care of business as
Speaker 1: a as a pass rusher, h sideline to sideline against
Speaker 1: the run. He can also cover as well. So again
Speaker 1: the Clemson front is just absolutely stupid. And then I'll
Speaker 1: talk if I didn't say Ringo from Georgia, I'll toss
Speaker 1: him out because I think he's probably the best corner
Speaker 1: in America. So yeah, yeah, Eli Ricks another good one
Speaker 1: is very good at Alice. So a lot of good
Speaker 1: prospects here. Thank you Thor so much. Remember you can
Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter at thor ku and thor What
Speaker 1: do you have coming up for Fantasy pros? Betting pros
Speaker 1: all all your work? What do you have coming up
Speaker 1: this week and where can people find if you bet
Speaker 1: on college football, come and find it, because we got
Speaker 1: stuff coming out every single day, But the most recent
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Speaker 1: I set my projected line for the coming college football
Speaker 1: weekend on Sundays, and we put a column out on
Speaker 1: Monday with my updated power rankings, then on Tuesday with
Speaker 1: my notes where I go sort of game by game
Speaker 1: and I show my projected spreads for each of the games.
Speaker 1: So those two columns are out now. And then this week,
Speaker 1: you know, bagman, we're gonna be doing our show where
Speaker 1: we're going through the card looking at m I think
Speaker 1: specifically and in our show. This week is gonna be
Speaker 1: super fun because you know, we look at like the
Speaker 1: midweek games. You know, it's as much weird today Friday. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, if we have them, we're gonna have an
Speaker 1: opportunity with these Thursday and Friday games because there's so
Speaker 1: many games that are on the card, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to really dive into those and to get
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Speaker 1: And then my show on Saturday Mornings with Mike Farrell
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Speaker 1: out picks on the side, giving out picks on the totals,
Speaker 1: props dfs like that, the whole gam it. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: this show all year long with Or. Of course, like
Speaker 1: you said, tons of Thursday and Friday action this week
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