Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. It's a Dynasty Fantasy Pros football podcast.
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Speaker 1: We got a lot coming up the combines in the books.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about some of those results. Free
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about some of the big free agents as well.
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Speaker 1: we we have we had the combine. The combine has
Speaker 1: come and gone. You know, I am a guy that
Speaker 1: loves the NFL, can't get enough of it, and even
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Speaker 1: class because of the numbers. Man, a lot of these
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Speaker 1: and go over the results. We're going to start a
Speaker 1: quarterback only seven we're graded only seven did enough to
Speaker 1: get a you know, relative athletics score, an RAS score,
Speaker 1: and this is basically a measurement. They've been doing these
Speaker 1: at the Combine since nineteen eighty seven. They take all
Speaker 1: your workout numbers between your you know, your forty times,
Speaker 1: your three cone, your agility tests, your vertical, your broad jump,
Speaker 1: anything that you have. Your height and weight have to
Speaker 1: be in there too, and they give you an RAS score.
Speaker 1: This has been around for a while. It's kind of
Speaker 1: becoming the standard in terms of, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of athletic ability from the Combine. But there are plenty
Speaker 1: of guys that grade high and playlight garbage. That has
Speaker 1: happened many many times, and there's plenty of guys that
Speaker 1: gradel garbage and play grade. So it's not linear, but
Speaker 1: it's what we use coming out of the combine and
Speaker 1: starting at quarterback fits Anthony Richardson, first QB to ever
Speaker 1: score a perfect ten, set all kinds of records, forty
Speaker 1: time for quarterbacks, vertical for quarterbacks, broad jump for quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We saw him dropping some dimes in there. So let's
Speaker 1: just get the buzz on the table about Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: right now and it is as high as it's gonna
Speaker 1: get it is, And yeah, I mean he was the
Speaker 1: story of the combine bog six four two forty four.
Speaker 1: That's what makes the forty time his four point four
Speaker 1: three forty times so enticing is that he did it
Speaker 1: at two hundred and forty four pounds. That he didn't
Speaker 1: even run straight in a straight line. Did you see
Speaker 1: him drifting exactly? Lord, that is a big man moving
Speaker 1: in a high rate of speed. So yeah, And as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, quarterback records in the broad jump and vertical jump.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean like we were excited about him.
Speaker 1: And the knock on him is the consistency in his
Speaker 1: ball placement with his throws, especially like shorter and intermediate throws.
Speaker 1: But man, the athleticism just shows what the rushing upside
Speaker 1: could be here. So Box, have you fundamentally changed anything
Speaker 1: at the top of your rookie QB rankings? I can
Speaker 1: tell you that I had Richards and fourth, just behind
Speaker 1: Will Levis, and now I've got him third ahead of Levis,
Speaker 1: but I've still got him behind Stroud and Young. I
Speaker 1: have been dancing between him and Bryce Young from my
Speaker 1: number one quarterback for fantasy. Now, look if I'm at NFLGM,
Speaker 1: he's still number four to me, right because he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have much experience on the field. And we did
Speaker 1: hear a lot of GM say this, but I kind
Speaker 1: of think, I mean, we'll get into Lamar stuff later.
Speaker 1: I kind of think there's an unspoken rule about keeping
Speaker 1: calm about some of these players these days, because no
Speaker 1: one wants some body to get a Deshaun Watson contract
Speaker 1: again or whatever. But the buzz is, you know, well,
Speaker 1: we knew he was going to test great. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the thing that we talked about a couple weeks ago,
Speaker 1: Pat where it's you don't count it twice, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. We knew he was going to test
Speaker 1: athletically amazing, so let's not count twice. It's still you know,
Speaker 1: the processing and all that stuff. And a lot of
Speaker 1: the interview said that he's behind in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to read a defense and things like that,
Speaker 1: which you know, I don't know, let's not go negative
Speaker 1: coming off of a great day here, but I mean
Speaker 1: for fantasy, the upside he has the highest and that's
Speaker 1: not really that's not a hot take, that's not a
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's very arguable that Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson has the highest ceiling out of these guys. But
Speaker 1: I also don't think it's arguable that he has the
Speaker 1: lowest floor of all these guys. Maybe you could say
Speaker 1: Levis also has it a low floor, that is, but
Speaker 1: we know Stroud and Younger been gonna be good and
Speaker 1: maybe even great. But Anthony Richardson has a high your
Speaker 1: ceiling then all of these guys. And I think for
Speaker 1: fantasy he has to be number one right now. Landing
Speaker 1: spot matters for everyone, and maybe I'll be in on
Speaker 1: Bryce Young more by the time we get there, but
Speaker 1: right now, in terms of fantasy, it's got to be
Speaker 1: him because he has the best upside by a lot.
Speaker 1: To me. Yeah, I agree with that. And the other
Speaker 1: guys none of them hurt themselves at the combine. You know,
Speaker 1: Levis went in and I think Levis just threw and
Speaker 1: he ripped his throws, and you know CJ. Strott had
Speaker 1: a really good throwing session. I've now got him ahead
Speaker 1: of Bryce Young just because I've been concerned about the
Speaker 1: size with Young. Although to his credit, Bryce Young did
Speaker 1: weigh over two hundred pounds. I think it was two
Speaker 1: hundred and four granted some of the diet for about
Speaker 1: a week. Yeah that was guessing. Yeah, that morning he
Speaker 1: probably had three cheeseburgers and a triple thick milkshake. So um.
Speaker 1: But all those guys, no one did themselves a disservice
Speaker 1: at the combine. But Early Richardson was the guy everyone's
Speaker 1: excited about coming out of Indie. Yeah, yeah, Richardson, huge day,
Speaker 1: c s travel, like you said, didn't do much. Stetson
Speaker 1: Bennett had to answer a bunch of questions. Obviously there's
Speaker 1: stuff with Jalen Carter as well, So you know, a
Speaker 1: lot going on at the quarterback position. Go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you about Bennett for a sec. Bogs.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's gonna confuse him with any of
Speaker 1: these top four guys. I mean it's it's the top four.
Speaker 1: Big falloff probably Hendon Hooker at five and then like
Speaker 1: the rest of the quarterbacks. But I mean Stetson Bennett
Speaker 1: through some unbelievable deep balls in that drill. I mean,
Speaker 1: like that guy Georgia, the guy can make every throw.
Speaker 1: He He's got maybe more of a hose than I've
Speaker 1: given him credit for, and he's obviously led the Georgia
Speaker 1: Bulldogs to consecutive national championships. He's five eleven, though he's
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety two pounds. He turns twenty six
Speaker 1: during the football season. Yeah, but man, like we saw
Speaker 1: the arm strength Bogs four point six seven and the forty.
Speaker 1: This guy can move and he's got ten inch hands
Speaker 1: even though he's five eleven, he's got some meat hooks.
Speaker 1: So do you think he can be like a quality
Speaker 1: backup quarterback? Bertie nfl Purty, I mean, that's I take
Speaker 1: that as a high compliment. Now, yeah, it is. And look,
Speaker 1: until the combine, my thought has been, well, we know
Speaker 1: the Ravens are taking steps in Bennett right because they
Speaker 1: need another backup quarterback. Now even though they franchise Lamar
Speaker 1: and Lamar still might not even be there because they
Speaker 1: you know, non exclusive rights. We'll talk about that in
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, Todd Monkin comes in,
Speaker 1: he was the OC at Georgia. He comes in to
Speaker 1: be the OC with Baltimore, and that just seems like
Speaker 1: a perfect fit for me. He knows the system. He's
Speaker 1: coming in. You know, you don't have to do a
Speaker 1: lot for him. It's either that to me or a
Speaker 1: place like San Francisco where brock Purty went in, and
Speaker 1: brock Purty almost had the same scenario at Iowa State
Speaker 1: where he had Breece halland Xavier Hutchinson and Charlie Cohler
Speaker 1: and all these great experienced players around him to build with,
Speaker 1: and you know, all you got to do at that
Speaker 1: point is not make mistakes. So Bennett had, you know,
Speaker 1: the best help that he could possibly have, guys that
Speaker 1: have been drafted in the first round on the line
Speaker 1: receiving Corps tight ends. You know, Darnell Washington might be
Speaker 1: the first tight end picked in this draft, and he
Speaker 1: was not the best tight end at Georgia, So you know,
Speaker 1: sets and Bennett had a lot of help for himself.
Speaker 1: But the Combine opened some eyes, I think, so teams
Speaker 1: looking for a backup. I mean, would you hate to
Speaker 1: see him go to Arizona and potentially, you know, try
Speaker 1: to compete with Colton McCoy for that, you know, first
Speaker 1: two or three months with Kyler Murray out. I think
Speaker 1: that would be a good spot for him too. So
Speaker 1: I think he made himself a draftball guy at the Combine,
Speaker 1: even with his off field stuff, which was you know,
Speaker 1: dicey you're you're gonna be older than all of the
Speaker 1: other rookies and some of the veterans. You should not
Speaker 1: be making these mistakes, right, so come on, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think their worst way is
Speaker 1: to spend a fourth round pick in a dynasty rookie
Speaker 1: super flex. Yeah. Yeah, take a flyer on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely is going to get drafted. I think at
Speaker 1: this point the running backs, So Bijan did everything. He
Speaker 1: ended up second in the class with a nine point
Speaker 1: eight one deneric prince what came in here as the
Speaker 1: number one score A nine eight three, which is very high.
Speaker 1: Ten is the highest you could possibly get. But you
Speaker 1: know he didn't. His size was okay, five eleven two sixteen,
Speaker 1: that's your prototypical size. But broad jump was ten four
Speaker 1: four four one forty. Great on the ten yards split,
Speaker 1: great on the twenty yards split as well. Big day
Speaker 1: for him. I'd say this is a guy that's tested well.
Speaker 1: His film doesn't match up with his testing, kind of
Speaker 1: indecisive at the line, doesn't show the breakaway speed as
Speaker 1: much on film, But a solid guy that has carried
Speaker 1: plenty of times in college that can be productive at
Speaker 1: the next level. Bijean was second. Like I said before,
Speaker 1: Chase Brown pat a nine seven five after terrible showing
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, really had a great showing here.
Speaker 1: Evan Holl, who was just piling good days on top
Speaker 1: of each other, was fifth in this class. Roshawn Johnson
Speaker 1: was eighth. They're only fourteen graded. Jamir Gibbs was ninth,
Speaker 1: Taint Biggspe was tenth. With the seven eight one, it
Speaker 1: kind of started to drop with Gibbs. Your boy, Devin
Speaker 1: Hjain didn't do very well and Kenny McIntosh didn't get graded,
Speaker 1: but he had some weird testing, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: like we know, Beijean's number one. He didn't do anything
Speaker 1: to disprove that, and you know, he did all of
Speaker 1: it showing he's kind of willing to do things. So
Speaker 1: he's still easily the number one guy. And I've even
Speaker 1: heard if the Panthers don't get a quarterback that they
Speaker 1: would be all in on Bijon because he's the top
Speaker 1: guy on their board after one of those qbs. So
Speaker 1: that's interesting to hear. What are your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: rest of the running backs that tested here? Oh boy, Well,
Speaker 1: let me preface the Spogs by saying I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: some references to speed score burst score. Those are metrics
Speaker 1: used by our friends at player profiler dot com. Speed
Speaker 1: score is basically judging a player based on their forty
Speaker 1: time combined with their weights. So you know, the bigger guys,
Speaker 1: A guy like Anthony Richardson, who is big and runs
Speaker 1: a fast forty is going to have an amazing speed score.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's one hundred percentile among quarterbacks. And burst
Speaker 1: score takes the two jumps, and I think factors in
Speaker 1: a player's size. So if you have a burst score
Speaker 1: that's high, you did well in the jumps, which you
Speaker 1: know measures explosive bodies. So, um, Jamir Gibbs. I mean
Speaker 1: I was excited to see him run a good time
Speaker 1: a four three six. Um, I think I'd rather have
Speaker 1: Gibbs than any of the wide receivers in this class.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't sure about going into the combine. Um,
Speaker 1: what disappointed you about eight chain bogs the four point
Speaker 1: three two in the forty. I'm not sure what else
Speaker 1: he did, but it's the size, like and it's not
Speaker 1: you can't count it twice. You know what we said
Speaker 1: that it's just to me, it wasn't surprising. He came
Speaker 1: in light and small, you know, five eight, five eight four? Uh,
Speaker 1: what was that? One eighty nine, eighty eight something like that.
Speaker 1: Um he ran a four three two, that's great. Um,
Speaker 1: didn't do the broad did the vertical only thirty three
Speaker 1: inches there? Um? You know he is straight line speed
Speaker 1: to me, So I don't does he have a role absolutely?
Speaker 1: What what you like about a guy like a Chain
Speaker 1: is if you have that Mallard, if you have Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson right, and he is just hammering and hammering and hammering,
Speaker 1: and then he's wearing down that defense, and then you
Speaker 1: bring on this speedster. He can hit a home run
Speaker 1: for you, you know. But I just don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much more he is than that. Are
Speaker 1: you still, Devin a Chain is third in this class
Speaker 1: after the combine or have you moved up on some
Speaker 1: other guys. I mean, he's third for me, Bogs. But
Speaker 1: like draft capital is going to swing things around, sure,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely after Beijon and Gibbs. Those guys
Speaker 1: are one and two without question, and after that it's
Speaker 1: going to depend on draft capital and landing spots for sure.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys. I mean, it's we're mixed
Speaker 1: up with a lot of these guys, and I don't
Speaker 1: think in some ways there was a little bit of
Speaker 1: clarity with the combine results, but in other ways, it's
Speaker 1: like these guys are still kind of jammed up, and
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys didn't test at all, like
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker and your guy from Pittsburgh, I can yeah, Canada,
Speaker 1: thank you, um so, but yeah, Evan Hall, you mentioned
Speaker 1: him four point four seven, and um it's funny. Derek
Speaker 1: Brown showed me something and it was a comp with
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey as far as size and testing numbers, and like,
Speaker 1: Evan Hall is almost like a dead ringer for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Which all right, I'm not I'm not like trying to
Speaker 1: go too far here. I mean, Chase Claypool, was Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know, and so was Christian Watson, you know. So,
Speaker 1: but I mean, are fine. Yeah, As thor Nystrom, our
Speaker 1: college football expert to fantasy pros and betting pros, said
Speaker 1: about Evan Hall, we at least know what he can
Speaker 1: do and what he can be in the NFL, Like
Speaker 1: he's going to be a pass catcher, like a good
Speaker 1: sized pass catching back who's also like big enough to
Speaker 1: handle early down work. And Northwestern, I mean he led
Speaker 1: all big ten running backs and receptions last year. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because I've I've got a friend who is
Speaker 1: a teacher up in the northwestern suburbs of Minneapolis where
Speaker 1: Hall is from, and you know, he knew Hall in
Speaker 1: like youth football in high school and everything. Apparently Hall
Speaker 1: used to not be good at catching passes, like he
Speaker 1: was like not natural and just kind of had bad hands,
Speaker 1: and obviously that's got tired out. So yeah, so Bogs,
Speaker 1: we saw Roshan Johnson and Tank big p two of
Speaker 1: the bigger backs, like the guy's candidates for early down
Speaker 1: work in the NFL. Both ran like good times, you
Speaker 1: know for bigger guys. They were sub four six I
Speaker 1: won't say good times, like not exciting times, but you
Speaker 1: didn't want to see them north of four six, all right.
Speaker 1: Like we saw Isaiah Spiller, Like remember how last year
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought Isaiah Spiller was like maybe
Speaker 1: on a par with Breece halland Kenneth Walker and then
Speaker 1: he ran out and ran a four six nine at
Speaker 1: the come last year. Yeah, and you know, we haven't
Speaker 1: seen Spiller do anything yet in the NFL, so they're
Speaker 1: guys who can get DQ that way. I think one
Speaker 1: of the guys, certainly, Roshan Johnson Tank's big tank, big speed,
Speaker 1: did not get dcuted. One of the guys, I'm Kenny Mackintosh.
Speaker 1: The four six two at two hundred and four pounds.
Speaker 1: That is a speed score. I think that's like in
Speaker 1: the eighth percentile. You know what's funny is I started
Speaker 1: doing my real deep dive on running backs this weekend
Speaker 1: and I started, you know, getting into the film and
Speaker 1: watching these guys, and I keep moving guys above Kenny
Speaker 1: Mackintosh and I haven't you know, I don't do grades.
Speaker 1: I just do where I would draft them if I
Speaker 1: was a GM, right like, you know, the order that
Speaker 1: I would take them in and right now after Robinson
Speaker 1: and Gibbs for me, And I haven't done my breakdown
Speaker 1: on hing yet, so I'm saving that last. I don't
Speaker 1: want to watch Aggie film all day. So but you
Speaker 1: know I've got charbonnat ll Ahead. I know Macintosh this
Speaker 1: third to some people's spears, Roshan Bigsby all ahead, I
Speaker 1: have him in the same kind of group as Evans
Speaker 1: and Sean Tucker where just something's missing, like these guys
Speaker 1: are not complete yet. So he is, to me, is
Speaker 1: firmly behind those other guys that you mentioned and Zach
Speaker 1: Charbonnet who didn't really test that much, so you know,
Speaker 1: he's still very good athlete. And it was so weird
Speaker 1: if you look at his RAS score, right, if you
Speaker 1: click on that link I put in there, it's this
Speaker 1: ten yards split was in the green meaning positive. His
Speaker 1: twenty yards split was normal, and his forty was bad
Speaker 1: four six two, and that put like a bad grade.
Speaker 1: So it's like the first couple steps out of there,
Speaker 1: he has explosion, but he doesn't have the long speed.
Speaker 1: So to me, that's kind of Devin Singletary as your peak,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like Devin Singletary is the
Speaker 1: same type of guy who he can get through that hole.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I was low on Singletary coming in.
Speaker 1: I was probably too low on him, so I'm kind
Speaker 1: of adjusted that. But he's that guy that look, he
Speaker 1: can get past the line, but he's not hitting home runs, right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna get tackled. So that's kind of where he is.
Speaker 1: He's more of a grinder than we thought. And that's
Speaker 1: you know, his game doesn't trans shouldn't translate as well
Speaker 1: at the next level as it did in Georgia because
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have all five star offensive linemen and
Speaker 1: you know, guys like Darnielle Washington and George Pickens out
Speaker 1: there blocking for you as well down field, so gonna
Speaker 1: be definitely gonna be tougher for him. So, um, what
Speaker 1: to what extent do you think Chase Brown salvaged his
Speaker 1: draft stock after Like if you had a guess which
Speaker 1: round he has drafted in because we had talked about this,
Speaker 1: um bad combine, Like, I mean he fumbled once without
Speaker 1: being taxable, yeah, oh sorry, bad senior ball, yeah bad?
Speaker 1: And pass protection was just getting blown up, bad at
Speaker 1: catching passes pretty much just had a lousy week in mobile.
Speaker 1: Then he comes in at the combine and you know,
Speaker 1: at two hundred and nine pounds runs a four four
Speaker 1: three only running back to hit forty inches in the
Speaker 1: vertical jump. Also the best broad jump of any running
Speaker 1: back at the combine. So this dude is really athletic.
Speaker 1: I think the sixth yeah, I think that's where he goes.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good day. Three for sure. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's definitely not thinking in a day two.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's still a project, but he's a project
Speaker 1: that has great athletic ability, which is exactly what you
Speaker 1: want if you're taking one of these guys late. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, great combine for him, but it's not going
Speaker 1: to make up for the rest of the stuff. So agree.
Speaker 1: But I mean if he had run a four, five
Speaker 1: eight or something, he was in danger of not getting drafted. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think coming in he was not getting drafted, and
Speaker 1: he just put himself on the board again. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to have another good day and a lot
Speaker 1: of good interviews to get drafted now. But I think
Speaker 1: the sixth, I think someone will take him because that
Speaker 1: athletic scoring is great. The wide receiver's forty three wide
Speaker 1: receivers graded, I mean, this class is deep. Bit is
Speaker 1: the Abyss deep. Fitzy, you know, Jalen Hyatt sixth best
Speaker 1: grade in the class and nine four six Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigba seventh in the class at a nine three nine.
Speaker 1: Josh Downs was bad, Zay Flowers was bad, Jordan Addison
Speaker 1: was awful. Tank Dell the size really got to him
Speaker 1: and Kashawn Boute was ridiculously bad, I mean terrible score
Speaker 1: in the combine. The top four are guys that maybe
Speaker 1: you haven't heard of if you're not the biggest college
Speaker 1: football fan here. Bryce Ford Wheaton from West Virginia, Johnathan Mingo,
Speaker 1: Andrey andre Yosevic Matt Landers. Those were the top four
Speaker 1: and they were all over nine ninths and the next
Speaker 1: highest score was a ninth six five at fifth from
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice, who's also a solid option. So did you
Speaker 1: dig in a little deeper on those top four guys?
Speaker 1: Have you watched any of Because Bryce Ford Wheaton, that
Speaker 1: dude tore up Texas, so I knew he was going
Speaker 1: to be pretty big, and he has size, you know,
Speaker 1: still needs to round out a lot of really just
Speaker 1: I mean he catches with his chest so much instead
Speaker 1: of his hands, So there's a lot of little technical things.
Speaker 1: But these guys all have size because you have to
Speaker 1: have decent size to grade to grade well if you're undersized,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of the knock on you know,
Speaker 1: guys like Zay Flowers and Josh Downs here. But did
Speaker 1: you peek into any of those top four guys yet?
Speaker 1: I've not really done the deeper dive on them. But
Speaker 1: Ford Wheaton's on the radar for sure now after pretty
Speaker 1: much not being on the radar at all. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: really interesting here, bugs, Like I think Smith and Jagba
Speaker 1: and Quentin Johnson have sort of separated themselves, Like you
Speaker 1: have to put us in third after the way he tested,
Speaker 1: don't you think. I mean he's Edison is five eleven,
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy three pounds, so four point four nine.
Speaker 1: Even though that doesn't sound like a bad time, that
Speaker 1: is an eighteenth percentile speed score. So for a man
Speaker 1: that lights, you know, he's not exactly turning on the
Speaker 1: jets and towards the bottom of the receivers with both
Speaker 1: his broad jumps and vertical jomps. Just not overly athletic.
Speaker 1: And we know that he's more of a smooth mover
Speaker 1: than a guy. Yeah, but you know, I do have
Speaker 1: some concerns about whether he can be special with you know,
Speaker 1: a smaller guy with really ordinary athletic traits. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: understand the ordinariness of his athletic traits, but to me,
Speaker 1: it's the hand fighting and the separation in the route running, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not expect him to come here and blow
Speaker 1: the top off of the combine. So I didn't expect
Speaker 1: him to be this bad, you know, comparatively to the
Speaker 1: rest of the class. So it was a little s rising. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know, between him and JSN. JSON hasn't seen
Speaker 1: the field for a while, you know, so that worries
Speaker 1: me a little bit. For Addison, I still think Addison
Speaker 1: is a back end of the first round. Maybe that
Speaker 1: first pick in the second round. I wouldn't mind that,
Speaker 1: uh fitze, because the Steelers got that from the Bears,
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool. I'd replaced Claypool with Jordan Addison, no issue.
Speaker 1: So but I think I think he's still a first
Speaker 1: rounder even if you put him third. I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to put him a third. I'm
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I might have him too. Now,
Speaker 1: I might put him behind Quinton Johnston, but JSON, and
Speaker 1: you know, being on the field scares me a little bit,
Speaker 1: that's all. Yeah, And Johnston is polarizing. He didn't run,
Speaker 1: but he jumped, didn't He jumped really well? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: like the reason he didn't run is because he's not
Speaker 1: These guys are putting up crazy scores. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you remember last season in the combine, the gun was
Speaker 1: hot and everybody was running four twos and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and they had to readjust it a couple of days later.
Speaker 1: His four two nine was actually a four to three
Speaker 1: four because we were half a second off and all
Speaker 1: that crazy nonsense they were doing. The gun was cold
Speaker 1: this time, and so the numbers were better after doing
Speaker 1: the official measurements and stuff like that. So, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't run in a class where you know, all of
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna run and you know, the only
Speaker 1: thing keeping the guys like Josh Downs and Tank Dell
Speaker 1: Downs a Flowers. The same thing is the size great.
Speaker 1: You know, Josh Downs came in at what he come
Speaker 1: in at five nine even, but he still ran a
Speaker 1: four four eight that's still very fast. The ten yards
Speaker 1: split was green, his vertical was thirty nine and a
Speaker 1: half at five nine, and his broad was ten feet
Speaker 1: eleven inches. Like, there's still a lot of athletic ability there.
Speaker 1: He's just small. The same thing was A Flowers, which,
Speaker 1: by the way I saw today Flowers is one of
Speaker 1: thirteen children, and I was like, that's why it runs
Speaker 1: routes so well. You gotta be first one at the
Speaker 1: dinner table with the family of thirteen there. So you know,
Speaker 1: i'd be a precise route runner if it was getting
Speaker 1: a food first. I know that. So, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of the size stuff here. Like I
Speaker 1: saw someone say I wasn't really impressed with Jalen Hyatt's
Speaker 1: you know, scores here, and I was like, the dude
Speaker 1: ran a four four flat, Like, not everyone is gonna
Speaker 1: run four two nine. It's just not realistic, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean high, it's still very fast. I understand the
Speaker 1: point that, like high it is only one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy six pounds, so when you take that four or four,
Speaker 1: it's actually only like a forty seventh percentile speed scar
Speaker 1: but four or four is plenty. Like that's yeah, we
Speaker 1: know what high it does. I think the only question
Speaker 1: is whether he's a one trick pony in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of worried that he is. That he's
Speaker 1: just a field stretcher and that's it. Yeah, he definitely
Speaker 1: could be, which is why he gets that Will Fuller
Speaker 1: comp time. That might be a good one, although I
Speaker 1: did think Fuller was, you know, proving to be a
Speaker 1: little more versatile than that before his career kind of
Speaker 1: went off the rails, Like I thought he had a
Speaker 1: little bit of yeah exactly, um, but I thought I
Speaker 1: thought Fuller was kind of capable of turning into like
Speaker 1: a t Y Hilton, a smaller guy who had more
Speaker 1: than just the vertical dimension. And I still think that's
Speaker 1: on the table. You know, boute a bad scores here, now,
Speaker 1: I did not expect him another guy that you see him.
Speaker 1: He does it with finesse, right, but nothing was good
Speaker 1: coming out. The vertical was twenty nine inches, the broad
Speaker 1: was nine feet ten inches. Everyone else was over ten.
Speaker 1: You know his you know, four or five flat, which
Speaker 1: is still fast, but at his size, which also wasn't
Speaker 1: as big as we thought. I thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: be six to one some of in that neighborhood, five
Speaker 1: eleven one ninety five, you know, a little smaller than
Speaker 1: we expected too. With bad scores, I think he lost
Speaker 1: the most out of any wide receiver here. Disappointing, I mean,
Speaker 1: we still the only thing that's really keeping him on
Speaker 1: the radar was that amazing stretch he had in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty as a freshman where he looked like he was
Speaker 1: going to be a superstar, and since then it's just been,
Speaker 1: you know, mostly a disappointing run for that guy. So
Speaker 1: now I think he's a Day three guy, no question,
Speaker 1: and possibly even late Day three. So I guess it's
Speaker 1: going to depend on landing spot for him. Box and
Speaker 1: one other guy. I wanted to mention to you when
Speaker 1: we talk about the combination of size and speed. I
Speaker 1: was intrigued by Tank Dell, and I know the guys
Speaker 1: I've talked to who were at the Senior Ball were
Speaker 1: intrigued by Tank Dell down there and how this guy
Speaker 1: was just this little gnat who the corners could not
Speaker 1: stay with. You know, if you could get your hands
Speaker 1: on him, you could neutralize him. But if you couldn't
Speaker 1: get your hand ends on him, it was game over. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: at one hundred and sixty five pounds of four point
Speaker 1: four nine, which is sixth percentile for speed score, Um,
Speaker 1: you know i'd do that little five eight hundred sixty five.
Speaker 1: He's he's got to run by a people box and
Speaker 1: if he can't do that, yeah, I don't see much
Speaker 1: future for him. So he's kind of off my board.
Speaker 1: Now It's okay, so I'll give this for him. Like, look,
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to say about the size. It
Speaker 1: was tiny, right, So I'll say this for him, His
Speaker 1: ten yards split was still real good according to ras.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you know speed score sees his
Speaker 1: ten yard but to me, that's like you get the
Speaker 1: jump off the line and you can still snap off
Speaker 1: a route because he's he's real. You know, he's still
Speaker 1: he's still twitchy to me, not crazy twitchy. Obviously his
Speaker 1: scores weren't great, but he's still twitchy to me, So
Speaker 1: I think there's still possibility. But also, like you Tank,
Speaker 1: take Dell and you're downside, is Jaqueine Grant? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I mean like a special teamer, a
Speaker 1: guy that will return kicks and punts and could fill
Speaker 1: in as a wide receiver for you. But at that size,
Speaker 1: you're getting a little gadgety without that crazy you know
Speaker 1: Cheetah Tyreek hill speed. If you're gonna be that small,
Speaker 1: you gotta be real fast or go up and get it.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we know Josh Down's great contest to
Speaker 1: catch rate. You know, Tank Dell didn't have that one either,
Speaker 1: So you know, um, it's uh, it's tough, it's it's
Speaker 1: tough to come in that small and expect to get drafted.
Speaker 1: So he'll still get drafted. But this is a good class.
Speaker 1: And you know, do you think him or Bryce ford
Speaker 1: Wheaton right now? I mean probably Ford Wheaton just on
Speaker 1: the testing and the size. One other guy when I
Speaker 1: ask you about bogs, what are your impressions of Jonathan Mingo?
Speaker 1: Because all right, this guy bigger receiver in a pretty
Speaker 1: small receiver class. Yeah, this guy I think had the
Speaker 1: second biggest hands of any wide receiver at the combine
Speaker 1: goes out and at his size runs a four or
Speaker 1: four seven. And if you watch this dude play, I mean, boy,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to compare him to Sterling Sharp, but
Speaker 1: he has one of those like he is got that
Speaker 1: dog in him. He is a bad man with the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Like, yeah, not quite as Elusivest
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, but like Debo, he is really hard to tackle.
Speaker 1: He's got that rack and he goes h He goes
Speaker 1: to a real fast too, like like get the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands. He has turned around. He's not looking
Speaker 1: for a route, He's looking for someone to hit. You know,
Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a beast with the ball in
Speaker 1: his little maybe a little and Quan Boldin in him
Speaker 1: who you know, and Quan was not really known as
Speaker 1: a separator, and neither is Mingo. But you know, plus
Speaker 1: he's coming out of Old Miss, which has some pretty
Speaker 1: good pedigree with Old Miss wide receivers, and he played
Speaker 1: against SEC competition, and so Mingo is a guy who
Speaker 1: like that forty time kind of turned my head like
Speaker 1: he was one of the few receivers who I thought, like, really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, sort of boosted himself in my eyes
Speaker 1: at the combine mainly because of like hand size and
Speaker 1: forty times. It's it's one of those things though, right
Speaker 1: like because you look at Mingo and you see this
Speaker 1: testing you go, oh wow, look at the size and
Speaker 1: speed combo and you watch him like if you watch
Speaker 1: a highlight film, you're like, how is this guy not
Speaker 1: in the top five? Look at him go with the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. But it's you know, he's not
Speaker 1: burning people on the field and he's not getting a
Speaker 1: ton of separation. Now you got to be that contestity,
Speaker 1: and that's why he's got that fight, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he's got that fighting him because he has to. So
Speaker 1: it gets tougher at the next level, So it's just
Speaker 1: getting off the line for him is the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: But that can be taught. And he's another body catcher too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, he's a bit of a body catcher,
Speaker 1: which is annoying because you're a wide receiver man to
Speaker 1: stick those paws out, he's gonna get it. So all right,
Speaker 1: So let's go to the tight ends here, Uh, Fitzy,
Speaker 1: you know Zach Kuntz the very first only perfect score
Speaker 1: for a tight end in combine history according to RAS,
Speaker 1: which is since nineteen eighty seven, says thirty six seasons
Speaker 1: of combined data. So the only guy this dude was
Speaker 1: hurt last year played at Old Dominion. He was at
Speaker 1: Penn State behind Pat Furmouth before that. You know, a
Speaker 1: big recruit who went with Ricky Ronnie, the OC at
Speaker 1: Penn State left for the Old Dominion job, so he
Speaker 1: followed him there, you know, big kid. But he is
Speaker 1: a he's a slot wide receiver. He's not really a
Speaker 1: tight end. He's not inline blocking for you. So he
Speaker 1: is gonna grade below all of the other guys in
Speaker 1: terms of a big board for an NFL team because
Speaker 1: he is a one trick, pony. The one trick is
Speaker 1: great for us in fantasy. So if he gets on
Speaker 1: the field and gets time and qualifies a tight end,
Speaker 1: that's great. You want to six eight, you know, Jilani
Speaker 1: Wood style red zone threat. That's what you want from him.
Speaker 1: So he was great. But then the other guys, and
Speaker 1: there were only fourteen graded. Musgrave nine nine five, second
Speaker 1: in the class six all time among tight ends, Darnel
Speaker 1: Washington nine eighty five, he was third in the class.
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta from Iowa nine two six six in this class,
Speaker 1: and Michael Mayer was didn't grade grade comparatively right, he
Speaker 1: was thirteen of fourteen graded. But when you look at
Speaker 1: historical tight end data, he's still in the green as
Speaker 1: far as good. And you know, so, like I said,
Speaker 1: athletically low another guy we did not expect to come
Speaker 1: in and tear it up at the combine. He was good,
Speaker 1: not great, which is what we wanted to see from him.
Speaker 1: So for me, I think he stays high in those boards.
Speaker 1: But it is getting I thought it was gonna get
Speaker 1: easier after the combine fits to separate these tight ends.
Speaker 1: It got harder because Musgrave six best score of all time.
Speaker 1: You know now Zach Cootz has in the the chat
Speaker 1: as a potential high end tight end as well. So, um,
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington out there making one handed uh catches and
Speaker 1: pushing the sled like it was, you know, a balloon.
Speaker 1: It was nothing to him and every other guy was
Speaker 1: out there struggling with it, and he moved it, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was nothing like he was pulling in the
Speaker 1: trash can from the curb. It was crazy. So you know,
Speaker 1: even it's it's it's getting you mean, more and more
Speaker 1: excited about the side end class every time we talk
Speaker 1: about it. FITZI, Yeah, I would urge anyone who hasn't
Speaker 1: seen that to Google or search on Twitter Darnell Washington's
Speaker 1: sled and it will show you a video that, you know,
Speaker 1: how he moved the sled relative to some of the
Speaker 1: other tight ends and it's like these other guys are
Speaker 1: barely moving this thing and Washington is like, where do
Speaker 1: you want it? Like, yeah, a mover with a box
Speaker 1: of children's toys or something like that. So that was impressive.
Speaker 1: And then obviously a big hand six seven two sixty
Speaker 1: four running a four point six four forty is a
Speaker 1: ninety sixth percentile speed score. I mean, he could very
Speaker 1: well be the first tight end drafted box and it
Speaker 1: could be in the first round conceivably. It's just you
Speaker 1: know where I keep thinking is look at eleven with Tennessee,
Speaker 1: because now they have to have a blocking tight end.
Speaker 1: They gotta bring one back because it last Hooper, they
Speaker 1: last swam a. Conquo is the only guy with experience
Speaker 1: really on that right end. Yeah, yeah, right exactly, So
Speaker 1: you need that. Plus you need a receiving option because
Speaker 1: you just cut Bobby Trees and Treylon Burks. It's like
Speaker 1: your only guy now. Nick Westbrookakina is even a free agent,
Speaker 1: so you don't have a lot there. It's Kyle Phillips
Speaker 1: and Traylon Burks. Darnell can do that too, and they
Speaker 1: need old line help, worst offensive line in the league
Speaker 1: and he can block. I think it makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense at eleven. Obviously, if you're Tennessee, you'd like
Speaker 1: to pick up more pick to maybe move back and
Speaker 1: grabbed darner A Washington if you can. But that's like
Speaker 1: as early as eleven is what I see for Darnall
Speaker 1: Washington now because he was unbelievable. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Laporta or musk Grave get out of the second round. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, Like it'll be interesting. Mayor
Speaker 1: could be the first tight end drafted. But would it
Speaker 1: shock you if like two tight ends were drafted before Mayor. Nope,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't at this point. I think it would have.
Speaker 1: A month ago, I think I would have been surprised
Speaker 1: because I had Mayor. I was like, come on, Mayor
Speaker 1: can do everything you know almost you know you describe.
Speaker 1: I think he's better Dalton Schultz, right, I think because
Speaker 1: you kind of described Dalton Schultz as a average athletic guy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, which I think is fair.
Speaker 1: I think Mayor is kind of the same guy with
Speaker 1: that good too great brain. He knows where to be
Speaker 1: all the time, knows how to block, knows what play
Speaker 1: is going to be, knows how to set up blockers
Speaker 1: when he's running with the ball, all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: he's a ticks lower than these other guys. But he's
Speaker 1: he will be on the field before any of them,
Speaker 1: So he's plug and play. I think Darnell Washington is
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to plug and play. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see the ceiling on Musgrave is higher. The
Speaker 1: ceiling on Darnell is higher too. It's just nobody has
Speaker 1: that floor the Mayor has, so he still could easily
Speaker 1: be the first. But I have I would have no
Speaker 1: issues with a team taking one of these other guys.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be shocking at all. Yeah, we don't want
Speaker 1: to overplay the combine because I mean, yes, it's it's
Speaker 1: been said that your college career is your resume and
Speaker 1: the combine is your cover letter. And Mayor has got
Speaker 1: a heck of a resume. And you know, just because
Speaker 1: his cover letter didn't dazzle of I guess that's more
Speaker 1: important now since you know, computers read cover letters and algorithms,
Speaker 1: uh stort them out. So um. But yeah, like not
Speaker 1: to slam Mayor. He just didn't shine at the combine
Speaker 1: the way some of these other guys did. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: let let's talk about some of the rumors that came
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Speaker 1: after it all, Right, So we have Derek Carr officially
Speaker 1: to the Saints. As we're recording this, Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: jet flying around with the ownership of the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: We got, you know, Danny Dollars now instead of Danny Dimes,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixons in some trouble. Brady might be back. What
Speaker 1: was the thing that surprised you the most of the
Speaker 1: rumors coming out of the NFL Draft and kind of
Speaker 1: what we have swirling in the eddies right now. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know about rumors, Bogs, but I mean, like, obviously,
Speaker 1: while the Rogers stuff is big, you know, and by
Speaker 1: the time this is released as possible, Rogers has already
Speaker 1: been traded to the Jets. Like that now seems like
Speaker 1: it might be kind of imminent. Um, you know, can
Speaker 1: we talk about the Derek Carr signing for a second, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you like the landing spot for him?
Speaker 1: I do. I like it's it's fine. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it's great. I mean I like it better than
Speaker 1: like Caroline or Houston or something. So I guess it's
Speaker 1: it's okay. You have Crystal Lava. Uh, you You'll have
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara for a little bit. Um, you know, the
Speaker 1: defense is strong. I just I don't know, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be better than Andy Dalton? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is he going to be way better than Andy Dalton?
Speaker 1: Probably not, So it's fine. Yeah. I mean, like I know,
Speaker 1: DBRO Derek Brown has made the case that Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: was sort of unfairly maligned and that he was actually
Speaker 1: better than people thought, and that Car would graded well.
Speaker 1: He grated very well like a PF. He's like a
Speaker 1: top ten QB Andy Dalton. But like when you're just
Speaker 1: asking a guy to make the easy throws and not
Speaker 1: do anything to win you games, he should grade well.
Speaker 1: So I mean like Car for Dynasty purposes, Car himself
Speaker 1: is a low end quarterback two. I think I've got
Speaker 1: him at like quarterback twenty three in my Dynasty rankings.
Speaker 1: He's in his early thirties. I don't think he's ever
Speaker 1: had a season, or maybe one season where he finished
Speaker 1: in quarterback one range in fantasy scoring or fantasy points
Speaker 1: per game, and that was early, yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: like tenth. It wasn't high in QB one range. But
Speaker 1: I do think it bodes pretty well for the guys
Speaker 1: he's going to be playing with, like Chrystal law Um.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Derek Carr like had some statistical
Speaker 1: slippage last year and passer rating, completion percentage, yards, pert
Speaker 1: tempt but his average depth of throw was a yard
Speaker 1: deeper than it was in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: So maybe that was a function of the Josh McDaniel's
Speaker 1: offense and just being asked to push the ball down
Speaker 1: field a little bit you know late. You know, deeper
Speaker 1: is great, But I think, yeah, the fact that I
Speaker 1: think his average depth of throw was like nine point
Speaker 1: one yards, that that boats pretty well for Chris Olave
Speaker 1: and to a lesser extent, Rashid Shaheed, who's kind of
Speaker 1: intriguing sleeper, because those guys are vertical threats. Um, I
Speaker 1: think this is potentially really good for Alvin Kamara. I
Speaker 1: mean legal difficulties aside. I mean we miss those days
Speaker 1: where you know, first four years of Alvin Kamara's career
Speaker 1: eighty plus catches, eighty one and eighty four and let's
Speaker 1: see um in cars career with the Raiders, the Raiders
Speaker 1: were like always top eleven in the percentage of team
Speaker 1: targets to their running backs in eight of his nine years.
Speaker 1: They were I think the running backs in terms of
Speaker 1: target chair fourth, eleventh, tenth, second, eighth, eighth, ninth, fourth,
Speaker 1: and then seventeenth this last year. So that would seem
Speaker 1: to vote well for Kamara. And then as far as
Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson or whoever the other tight ends there are there,
Speaker 1: Darren Waller back to back thousand yards season, so we
Speaker 1: know Cars no compunction about throwing to his tight ends.
Speaker 1: So all in all, they haven't had in New Orleans
Speaker 1: for a while. But Juan Johnson is separating himself now,
Speaker 1: so that's yeah, yeah, he's he's in RFA, I think,
Speaker 1: but he should be back. Yeah. How about the franchise
Speaker 1: tag fits, I mean Lamar Jackson got the non exclusive tag.
Speaker 1: Danny dollars now got paid, so the Giants were able
Speaker 1: to use there there's on say Kwan, Josh Jacob's Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard evaning him and Drohn Payne where the franchise tags
Speaker 1: guy tag guys. What do you think about this Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson's situation. So many teams publicly saying they're out on it.
Speaker 1: How could the Falcons possibly be out on him? I
Speaker 1: think that's absurd. Same thing with the Panthers, Like those
Speaker 1: two in particular are ridiculous to me, and I don't
Speaker 1: believe it at all. Yeah, it's weird that they have
Speaker 1: either legitimately no interest or are holding the cards really
Speaker 1: close to the vest. And yeah, it's hard to see
Speaker 1: where this is going. I just like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a market for him. There just hasn't been
Speaker 1: like any smoke in the rumor mill about him possibly
Speaker 1: going anywhere else. New England, like came out right before
Speaker 1: we fired up today, So New England as a possibility.
Speaker 1: I guess he would trade mac Jones if that was
Speaker 1: the case, but I wouldn't I wouldn't hate seeing Lamar
Speaker 1: with that offense, And I mean he would be the
Speaker 1: only piece, So him and Ramandre, so that would be
Speaker 1: a lot of yards for him. It'd be fairly similar
Speaker 1: probably what they were doing in Baltimore. But I would
Speaker 1: prefer Atlanta or Carolina. But you know, if he has
Speaker 1: to go to New England, like New England has had
Speaker 1: immobile quarterbacks for so long, Mac Jones, Tom Brady for
Speaker 1: a long time. Before that, it was Drew bled So,
Speaker 1: like Steve Grogan was like the last running quarterback they had.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think only I am old enough
Speaker 1: to remember Steve Grogan and I don't remember Steve Grogan,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I remember Bled so but yeah, man, it's
Speaker 1: been stiff. But I would love to see what Belichick
Speaker 1: would do with a guy like Lamar. I think he
Speaker 1: let him play a little bit more pro style than
Speaker 1: just you know, uh, sling it so or I mean
Speaker 1: run it. So. I would be excited to see that.
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Speaker 1: let's run through some of these free agents here. Among
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, we got Lamar, we got Jimmy ge, we
Speaker 1: got Jacoby Baker, Mayfield, Marcus Mariota, and we got way
Speaker 1: more teams in that that need a QB. Right. You know,
Speaker 1: we're throwing Lamar in there because he has this exclusive
Speaker 1: rights tag, which means that any team can negotiate with them,
Speaker 1: offer a contract, and if the Ravens decide they don't
Speaker 1: want to match it, they get two first round picks
Speaker 1: from that team, or they can match it and then
Speaker 1: work out a bigger trade if they think Lamar is
Speaker 1: worth more. However, it works, right, So I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: Baltimore in there. But obviously the Jets they might have
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, they might be done. The Colts and Texans
Speaker 1: are probably getting draft picks, but the Raiders need a QB.
Speaker 1: Washington still has how Green Bay. If Jordan Love is
Speaker 1: the guy, I know you don't trust him. Tampa Bay, Carolina, Atlanta, Arizona.
Speaker 1: Do you see a fit for any of these guys
Speaker 1: that feels perfect to you? No? I think Jimmy g
Speaker 1: is gonna wind up with one of those teams as
Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback, getting a one or two year deal.
Speaker 1: I would think, sure, that's it. I mean of all
Speaker 1: the other free agents you mentioned, Bogs, I mean, who
Speaker 1: is who is starter material? There's really none. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of failed starters in there. Sure, no one
Speaker 1: who is probably going to go in and have a chance.
Speaker 1: Maybe someone you know who could compete with Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 1: say for a like playing time in year one, or
Speaker 1: just basically be given the starter's role until Richardson is ready.
Speaker 1: More realistically, but I just I heard a rumor of
Speaker 1: Baker to San Francisco, kind of like Baker to Arizona, right,
Speaker 1: like prove it for half a season and then maybe
Speaker 1: be a backup when Kyler comes back or whatever. Those
Speaker 1: guys were teammates in Oklahoma. You know, I think that
Speaker 1: could be a nice fit. But like you said, the resties,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not the greatest free agent class here,
Speaker 1: which is why Lamar being out on so many people's
Speaker 1: boards is surprising, just kind of shocking. At this point,
Speaker 1: Let's let's anymore on the quarterbacks. You want to roll
Speaker 1: the running backs. Yeah, let's go with running backs. More
Speaker 1: interesting there, definitely more interesting. We have some guys that
Speaker 1: could get cut. I mean, it seems all but a certainty,
Speaker 1: especially with the legal stuff that he has going on now.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is out in Cincinnati, so probably gonna be
Speaker 1: a cut. They're gonna give his money over to Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: get him locked a long term, and get that taken
Speaker 1: care of. Dalvin Cook has seemed like potentially a cut
Speaker 1: here for the Vikings. They need to get under the cap.
Speaker 1: I thought Zadarius Smith, you know, my boy c k
Speaker 1: Over on the in this league war room, we talked
Speaker 1: at length about that. We kind of thought that Zarius
Speaker 1: Smith was going to be the guy there. But now
Speaker 1: it looks more like Dalvin Cook. Miles Sanders is a
Speaker 1: free agent, Montgomery, Leonard Fournette, Devin Singletary, Jamal Williams, Alexander Madison,
Speaker 1: very underrated, saman j p Ryan, Damian Harris, Deante Foreman,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Jared McKinnon, Jeff Wilson, Shant Penny. There's so
Speaker 1: many good ones and there's not that many teams looking
Speaker 1: for running backs. The Vikings and Bengals will be if
Speaker 1: those guys get cut. New Orleans with Kimara being questionable,
Speaker 1: Billy now doesn't have Miles Sanders, they could draft one
Speaker 1: though Chicago needs one, Detroit needs someone with Swift could
Speaker 1: just be resigned Jamal Buffalo needs one, Miami and maybe
Speaker 1: Denver if Javante they said he's a little bit behind
Speaker 1: schedule right now. So do you see a perfect fit
Speaker 1: here or who are you most excited to see get
Speaker 1: a deal done? And I guess maybe Zeke needs to
Speaker 1: be thrown into this as well because he's a potential
Speaker 1: cut casualty. Yeah, and there are a lot of teams
Speaker 1: looking to that aren't necessarily running back needy, but might
Speaker 1: be looking to add one to add depth, need depth,
Speaker 1: So it's interesting Bogs with so many intriguing free agent
Speaker 1: running backs and a very deep class of rookie running backs, like,
Speaker 1: there are going to be a lot of landing spots
Speaker 1: that people hate, like where log jams. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of log jams that people are going to desponse.
Speaker 1: And we'll probably also have a couple of situations where
Speaker 1: guys who you know, maybe we were neutral on land
Speaker 1: in a spot where like, hey, they're at the top
Speaker 1: of the packing order. This could be potentially really good.
Speaker 1: But I think the spots I'm most interested in seeing
Speaker 1: filled are the vacancies. Well, now, I guess the Bengals,
Speaker 1: you know, great offense, who's going to go there? Is
Speaker 1: it going to be some sort of communities Two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy, and uh, Minnesota is going to
Speaker 1: be interesting too, but also Miami and Philadelphia. Dude, I
Speaker 1: would love to see Leonard Fournette go to Miami. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be outstanding. I know people are tired
Speaker 1: of Leonard Fournette, but I still like him, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean to see him there anyone. Like, hey man,
Speaker 1: we were talking about a chain possibly going to like
Speaker 1: as a dream spot because of the wide zone running
Speaker 1: scheme that they had there, so but you know, to
Speaker 1: lesser extent, Cardinals, Falcons, Ravens, Panthers, Bears, Saints. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of teams with some sort
Speaker 1: of need at running back. It's gonna be really fascinating
Speaker 1: to see where those dominoes fall. To me, that's kind
Speaker 1: of the story of free agency, if you're a fantasy
Speaker 1: football enthusiast, how the running back position shakes out in
Speaker 1: free agency. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Wide
Speaker 1: receiver class not nearly as good as the running back
Speaker 1: free agency class. Here, we've got I guess at the top, Juju,
Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers, ob j Odell Beckham Junior still hasn't signed,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Void Contra Tracks, so he's a free agent.
Speaker 1: Robert Woods got cut, DJ Shark, Alan Lazard, Mikole Hardman,
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton, Sterling Shepherd, Julio, a couple of old guys
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones in there. And there's teams that need wide receivers.
Speaker 1: And Lanta still needs one with London, Carolina needs one
Speaker 1: with More, the Giants need anybody. Dallas needs somebody to
Speaker 1: pair with Land because the guys haven't worked out New England.
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers was their best and he's gone. Cleveland needs
Speaker 1: someone with Cooper. Baltimore doesn't have anything Tennessee. I mean,
Speaker 1: we hope it's Burks, but you have to make sure.
Speaker 1: Houston Brandon Cooks has gone after this year, and Vegas
Speaker 1: has you know, the ghost of Hunter Renfro and Davante.
Speaker 1: So there are tons of teams with needs. We know
Speaker 1: the draft class is very deep, so most of these
Speaker 1: answers will be with through draft picks. But do you
Speaker 1: have like, um, I know Juju has already been kind
Speaker 1: of negotiating with Kansas City. Would you like to see
Speaker 1: him go back there, potentially go somewhere else and be
Speaker 1: the guy. See this is the things. There are not
Speaker 1: any super exciting landing spots for I shouldn't say that
Speaker 1: they're none, but when you think about it, there's either
Speaker 1: you could go to a good offense like the Cowboys offense,
Speaker 1: but you've already got the alpha guy in place there
Speaker 1: in cd Land and Schultz. Yeah yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: the wide receiver neediest teams in the league also happened
Speaker 1: to be some of the run heaviest teams in the league,
Speaker 1: like the Bears, who desperately need wide receiver help and
Speaker 1: have a ton of money to spend. They ran the
Speaker 1: bond fifty six point two percent of their offensive snaps
Speaker 1: last year and average one hundred and fifty two passing
Speaker 1: yards per game, which was by far the fewest in
Speaker 1: the league. The Ravens also very wide receiver needy. Third
Speaker 1: highest running percentage in the league. Titans need receivers sixth
Speaker 1: highest run percentage Giants. Part of it is because they
Speaker 1: don't have those whiteouts, that's part of it for sure.
Speaker 1: But like you know, the Ravens and Titans light round
Speaker 1: the ball major the Giants would throw the ball more.
Speaker 1: I mean they were eleventh and in rushing percentage last year.
Speaker 1: But part of that is a running quarterback. Part of
Speaker 1: it is having bad wide receivers. Here's actually a spot
Speaker 1: that could be a good landing spot for receivers Bogs.
Speaker 1: The Texans, yes they're gonna have a quarterback, presumably get
Speaker 1: one of these rookies they get down in a lot
Speaker 1: of games. Yeah, catch up late exactly. And if you've
Speaker 1: got strouder young throwing to one of these guys like
Speaker 1: pretty accomplished passing quarterbacks, I don't think the Texans are
Speaker 1: bad landing spot at all for a wide receiver. The
Speaker 1: tight ends are even worse. Dalton Schultz is a big guy,
Speaker 1: get sickies, probably two with Hayden Hurst, Hooper, Moreau, Irv Smith.
Speaker 1: It's bad. Obviously we have a lot coming into the draft,
Speaker 1: but I've got tight end needs for the Chargers. They
Speaker 1: might cut Everett, that's possibility Tennessee. Like we said, Blocker Houston, Cincinnati, Miami, Detroit,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Washington, Carolina. Give me a spot for Shultz.
Speaker 1: Where do you want to see Shult Let's go, Um,
Speaker 1: you left one team outfullist Bogs, Jet resigned, Evan Ingraham
Speaker 1: never mind. Franchise yeah, franchise yeah, Bengals, Bengals. I mean,
Speaker 1: either Schultz or I would not be sad if it
Speaker 1: was Dalton, Kincaid, Musgrave, Laporta, some rookie shot. Um Schultz
Speaker 1: wouldn't be bad. I'm kind of hoo. I kind of
Speaker 1: think Schultz is just a guy. To be honest, I
Speaker 1: thought Daniel Washington was a perfect guy for Cincinnati, but
Speaker 1: after that, after that combine, I don't think he's following
Speaker 1: that far. I think Cincinnati would have to go up
Speaker 1: and get him. So Yeah, Schultz costs a lot of
Speaker 1: money and they're already kind of up against cap. That'd
Speaker 1: be a great spot for him. I'd love to see
Speaker 1: him go there. I could see Gasiki doing it. You know,
Speaker 1: they probably still need a blocking tight end, but I
Speaker 1: could see Gasiki doing it that that could be a possibility.
Speaker 1: But that is going to wrap it up for the
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