Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome into the first ever episode of the
Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. My name is Kyle Yates
Speaker 1: and I am joined by my guy Ray Garvin. Ray.
Speaker 1: On a scale from one to ten, how excited are
Speaker 1: you that we get to do this podcast together? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm just upset that you are only limiting me to ten. Man.
Speaker 1: I am so pumped. I am stoked. We've been texting
Speaker 1: about this show for it feels like a month now,
Speaker 1: but man, I'm so freaking excited and humbled in honor
Speaker 1: to do this with Fantasy Pros and to do this
Speaker 1: with you. Man, I am I am ready, so am I? Man? Hey,
Speaker 1: For those who are listening, you can find Ray on
Speaker 1: Twitter at rayg Q. That's que and I can be
Speaker 1: found on Twitter as well at Kyle White NFL. With
Speaker 1: this being the first ever episode of the Dynasty podcast,
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna have people tuning in that may
Speaker 1: have never interacted with us before, or they may know
Speaker 1: your work, Ray but don't know me, or vice versa.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to take this opportunity just to introduce
Speaker 1: ourselves and give a little bit of a background into
Speaker 1: our work. So again, my name is Kylie Yates. I'm
Speaker 1: a full time fantasy analyst at Fantasy Pros and you
Speaker 1: can hear me on our main podcast, the Fantasy Pros
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. I've been writing in the fantasy football space
Speaker 1: only since twenty eighteen. I was writing for a small
Speaker 1: Chicago sports based website and handling their fantasy football content
Speaker 1: just because I love doing it, and then joined the
Speaker 1: writing team over at the Fantasy Footballers for the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen season handling their Dynasty content. And I then came
Speaker 1: on and joined the Fantasy Pros team in a full
Speaker 1: time capacity in January of twenty twenty. If you've paid
Speaker 1: attention to the Fantasy Pros, you know podcast or the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel or whatever, you've heard me on Waiver Wire
Speaker 1: live streams and I do fantasy projections in season all this,
Speaker 1: but my passion is in Dynasty. This is my sweet spot.
Speaker 1: So to be able to get with Ray Garvin here
Speaker 1: and talk about Dynasty what I believe I said it
Speaker 1: in the intro episode, what I believe to be the
Speaker 1: best form of fantasy football, I'm psyched. I'm so so excited. Additionally,
Speaker 1: I am married, coming up on five amazing years with
Speaker 1: my wife Jessica, and We have a two and a
Speaker 1: half year old son. So if Ray and I ever
Speaker 1: just break out into like the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse theme
Speaker 1: song or something like that, we're both dads of young kids.
Speaker 1: It's normal. Ray, you want to introduce yourself here too, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Ray Garvin, I have been in the fantasy space now
Speaker 1: coming up on two years. So I started out in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, did some writing with the Dynasty Nerds and
Speaker 1: then transition to writing with DLF and I just have
Speaker 1: a passion for being behind the camera, being on the
Speaker 1: my talking doing video work. So I created my own
Speaker 1: kind of podcast, my own sort of network destination DEVI.
Speaker 1: I am a former college football player. I played in
Speaker 1: college at Shadron State College. I was actually a part
Speaker 1: of the same recruiting class as Danny wood Head. A
Speaker 1: lot of you guys listening remember Danny Woodhead, especially those
Speaker 1: of you who participate in PPR League. So played college
Speaker 1: football for a couple of years. I'm an attorney by trade,
Speaker 1: so this is not my full time job. But I
Speaker 1: have a passion for fantasy football, a passion for sports,
Speaker 1: and to you, just like you, Kyle, I think Dynasty
Speaker 1: is the best format, the best sort of way to
Speaker 1: play fantasy football, and you know, to be able to
Speaker 1: do this with you again with fantasy pros and share
Speaker 1: some of my insights. A lot of my fantasy football
Speaker 1: analysis comes through the lens of somebody that was able
Speaker 1: to play the game. You know. Granted wasn't at the
Speaker 1: NFL or Division one level, but I do feel that
Speaker 1: I have some knowledge of how players should move, you know,
Speaker 1: things to look for when you're talking about certain collegiate prospects.
Speaker 1: I'm a father as well. I've got two boys, Ridge
Speaker 1: and Ryland. I've been married now coming up on five
Speaker 1: years myself. So just like Kyle said, if you hear
Speaker 1: the Mickey Mouse theme song or the Gummy Bear song
Speaker 1: or mowanna listen, man, just roll with us, just vibe
Speaker 1: with us, baby, It's just it's that father dad life, man,
Speaker 1: dad life. There's nothing like it. Well, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run through the show outline here just so
Speaker 1: everyone kind of has an idea of what to expect
Speaker 1: and then let's just get right into it. Man. So
Speaker 1: we've got some news that we're gonna break down again.
Speaker 1: All of this is going to be broken down from
Speaker 1: a dynasty angle, right, we're gonna be talking about this
Speaker 1: and the impact of it from a Dynasty perspective, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna be talking about a Dynasty intro here, right,
Speaker 1: because I get this question on Twitter all the time,
Speaker 1: like I'm looking to get into Dynasty, I'm looking to
Speaker 1: figure out what it's all about. And we're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first ever episode here and we're gonna break it down.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about what is Dynasty, what settings we prefer,
Speaker 1: how to value draft picks, and if you've played Dynasty,
Speaker 1: you've played Dynasty for like ten years or whatever like that,
Speaker 1: don't tune now, don't skip all the way to the
Speaker 1: end or whatever. We're gonna break down a little bit
Speaker 1: more in depth and talk about some things that we've
Speaker 1: learned along the way and some tips and tricks too,
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that, and then we have a
Speaker 1: huge listener mailback which we'll get too, So before we
Speaker 1: get into all that, though, I do want to make
Speaker 1: just one request of you, as you are listening, please
Speaker 1: take thirty seconds out of your day to rate and
Speaker 1: review this podcast. The support we've seen already has just
Speaker 1: been absolutely incredible, but this is a huge way that
Speaker 1: you can let Ryan I know that you're enjoying the show,
Speaker 1: or even that you appreciate that Fantasy Pros is branching
Speaker 1: out and doing a Dynasty podcast. Again, just a quick
Speaker 1: review would be greatly appreciated. Right, a week ago, we
Speaker 1: saw the Rams and the Lions make a big trade,
Speaker 1: and that was to send Matthew Stafford from Detroit over
Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Rams. We saw in return, Jared
Speaker 1: Goff plus a couple of first round picks make their
Speaker 1: way back to Detroit. So let's talk about this from
Speaker 1: a dynasty perspective, particularly with the quarterbacks. We'll break down
Speaker 1: the other skill players here in a second, but let
Speaker 1: me just get your opinions here on Matthew Stafford and
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and what the dynasty impact is from this trade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big time move, the first sort of big move of
Speaker 1: the off season. And I think it's a fantastic move.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, not a lot of people
Speaker 1: are gonna think I'm crazy, but I think it was
Speaker 1: a great move for both teams. I think it was
Speaker 1: a great move for Matthew Stafford. You know, the Rams
Speaker 1: have a very short window. They are trying to win
Speaker 1: now and you put Matthew Stafford on a team that
Speaker 1: does have a young, ascending running back in cam Acres,
Speaker 1: They do have a tight end in Tyler Higbee, to
Speaker 1: established wide receivers in Robert Woods and Cooper Cup and
Speaker 1: an offensive sort of play caller, offensive creator of the
Speaker 1: mastermind of Sean McVay, a quarterback that is deadly accurate,
Speaker 1: that has a canon of an arm that is not
Speaker 1: afraid to push the ball downfield, and that can win
Speaker 1: you games. Jared Goff was never winning you games. Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford can help win you football games. So I think
Speaker 1: from a Dynasty perspective, although Matthew Stafford is a little
Speaker 1: bit older, right and we'll talk about that as the
Speaker 1: show progresses. How we want to chase youth and that's
Speaker 1: a big sort of staple of Dynasty, as youths youth.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is a quarterback that will help a lot
Speaker 1: of teams. It's that Fantasy Football championship in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: And then from the Lions side, right you're you're looking
Speaker 1: at what Matthew Stafford does. The pieces that the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions have right now, t J Hockenson, DeAndre Swift will
Speaker 1: see what happens with Kenny Golladay. But I do think
Speaker 1: this is a decent spot for him. Maybe not for
Speaker 1: the long term, but for this year. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got listen. You want quarterbacks that are going to start
Speaker 1: in dynasty and fantasy football, and Jared Goff is going
Speaker 1: to be the starter in Detroit. We don't know for
Speaker 1: how long, so I think we can talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: how long he holds this value, but right now, you
Speaker 1: know you still have a starting quarterback in Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that is critical, especially for those
Speaker 1: of us who play in two quarterback in the superflex
Speaker 1: leagues for sure. And you talked about Matthew Stafford a
Speaker 1: little bit older, but it's not like he's the same
Speaker 1: level of Ben Roethlisberger or Matt Ryan, right Like, he's
Speaker 1: still only thirty two years old. He seems a lot
Speaker 1: older because he's been in the league for a long
Speaker 1: time and he's got, you know, an injury history or whatever,
Speaker 1: but he battles through it like no other quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL. So Stafford's still only thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: If and we're going to talk about this as far
Speaker 1: as the window that you play Dynasty as far as
Speaker 1: like a two to three year window. Again, we'll break
Speaker 1: that down in just a little bit. But Stafford can
Speaker 1: still be a very very effective Dynasty quarterback for you
Speaker 1: for the next for the foreseeable future, and especially if
Speaker 1: you are especially in this offense. And let's pivot now
Speaker 1: and talk about the skill players here for Los Angeles. Now,
Speaker 1: for me, particularly with Robert Woods Cooper Cup, it doesn't
Speaker 1: really move the needle a ton. It's an upgrade for sure,
Speaker 1: because I do believe that Matthew Stafford is a better
Speaker 1: quarterback than Jared Goff. But yet so it's an upgrade.
Speaker 1: But yet it's not going to be to the point
Speaker 1: where I think they're now suddenly top five options in
Speaker 1: Dynasty right like they're a little bit older here. I
Speaker 1: think there's still going to be incredibly safe options, ones
Speaker 1: that you can rely on. But yeah, at the same time,
Speaker 1: I don't think that this moves them and you know,
Speaker 1: causes them to jump up into the top ten or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Do you do you agree? No, No,
Speaker 1: it should not move the needle that much. If anything,
Speaker 1: I do think it gives them a little boost, not
Speaker 1: into the top twelve, not into the top five, but
Speaker 1: I think had Jared Garf returned, we would just be
Speaker 1: looking at them as sort of just like ah, kind
Speaker 1: of safe plays. But I do think they have a
Speaker 1: little more upside now with Matthew Stafford. Again, we're not
Speaker 1: pushing them into the top ten, the top fifteen, but
Speaker 1: I do believe that there is a little more upside
Speaker 1: because Matthew Stafford is not afraid to push the ball downfield.
Speaker 1: He's got a stronger arm, he's more accurate, and I
Speaker 1: think Sean McVeagh is going to trust Stafford to do
Speaker 1: a little bit more. So. While I'm not elevating those
Speaker 1: guys like super high, I do think it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a boost to their stock. Like I'm more
Speaker 1: I guess I'll say it like this guy, I'm a
Speaker 1: little more intrigued this week than I was a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago about those two players. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's a perfectly fair way to phrase it. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Cam Akers, because we saw Cam Akers
Speaker 1: completely step in and shouldered thirty carries towards the end
Speaker 1: of the season, right like he was the main focal
Speaker 1: point of this offense. And I think part of it
Speaker 1: now that we know, right, like hindsight is twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: we can say that it could be because Sean Mife
Speaker 1: just didn't want to give Jared Goff the ball. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to rely on Jared Goff at this point.
Speaker 1: He didn't think that he was the long term answer,
Speaker 1: So why not give a talented running back, you know,
Speaker 1: thirty carries or whatever. Moving into next season and beyond.
Speaker 1: With Matthew Stafford now in the fold, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we're going to see that type of workload here
Speaker 1: for cam Akers. Now. I do think that Stafford elevates
Speaker 1: this offense, so the scoring opportunities certainly can be there.
Speaker 1: But yet at the same time, I don't think that
Speaker 1: we're going to see the type of workload that we
Speaker 1: saw from cam Akers in twenty twenty one. Do you agree? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent on that. I just
Speaker 1: I think this was a I don't know how to
Speaker 1: say it, but I think this was just a solid
Speaker 1: move for all the Rams skill position players. Right. If anything,
Speaker 1: with golf coming back, we may have looked at them.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's kind of a downgrade, right, especially the pass catchers, right,
Speaker 1: and maybe cam Akers we would have elevated him a
Speaker 1: little bit more. But I think this transition from golf
Speaker 1: to Stafford, I think that it gives us some comfort
Speaker 1: in those skill position players. And although I do not
Speaker 1: believe akers is going to tote the rock thirty plus
Speaker 1: times a game, there may be, like you said, increased
Speaker 1: scoring opportunities and potentially some lighter fronts because the defenses
Speaker 1: have to account for the arm of Matthew Stafford. YEP,
Speaker 1: completely agree. The only other one that I'll mention here
Speaker 1: as far as Rams skill players just to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on, is Tyler Higbee the tight end heading into
Speaker 1: next season. Gerald Everett's supposed to be leaving in free agency,
Speaker 1: so if that does happen, you're gonna see Bryson Hopkins,
Speaker 1: who I did like coming out of Perdue. Off the
Speaker 1: top of my head, I think that was where he
Speaker 1: played okay perfect, So him stepping in as the tight
Speaker 1: end two. I did like his tape coming out, But
Speaker 1: yet he's not going to be a huge, huge factor here.
Speaker 1: So if this offense does see an upgrade here with
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Tyler Higbee could be a guy that you
Speaker 1: target late. Is there anyone else on the Rams that
Speaker 1: you want to talk about before we move over to
Speaker 1: the lines. And no, I mean, I know some people
Speaker 1: are going to ask about Van Jefferson, and just because
Speaker 1: this is Dynasty, we will I'll just bring up Van Jefferson.
Speaker 1: I think there are reports that Josh Reynolds isn't coming back.
Speaker 1: You already said that Gerald Everett won't be back. So
Speaker 1: I do think while I'm not the highest and I'm
Speaker 1: not the most bullish on a Van Jefferson, I do
Speaker 1: think for Dynasty purposes, he is still a player that
Speaker 1: you need to roster. Yeah. Yeah, for sure, if you
Speaker 1: can get him super cheap, he's worth a speculator bad.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that he's gonna necessarily a sent
Speaker 1: to be, you know, a top thirty option or anything
Speaker 1: like that. So let's talk about the Lions. This is
Speaker 1: a weird situation, man, because the only wide receivers that
Speaker 1: are under contract for the Lions in twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: right now are Quintest Stepast and Geronimo Allison. So Kenny
Speaker 1: Galladay appending free agent, he could be franchise tag, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're necessarily going to want to
Speaker 1: do that as they head into like a multi year rebuild.
Speaker 1: If anything, it could be a tag and trade type
Speaker 1: of situations. So Kenny Galladay, I'm kind of just moving
Speaker 1: forward with the assumption that he's not there. Outside of that,
Speaker 1: I think the two that we really just need to
Speaker 1: talk about our TJ. Hawkinson and DeAndre Swift. With Jared
Speaker 1: Goff in town and looking back from where it was
Speaker 1: a week ago with Matthew Stafford as a quarterback, are
Speaker 1: we thinking more of them? Are we thinking less? Where
Speaker 1: are we at with DeAndre Swift and t J Hawkinson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still really like TJ. Hockinson. I think he will
Speaker 1: be Jared Goff's number one target. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be a focal point of that new head coach
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell as a former tight end himself, so I
Speaker 1: have a feeling a strong suspicion that they will pretend
Speaker 1: and they may be in the market for a wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the draft, especially if Galladata doesn't come back.
Speaker 1: But I still think this is good for TJ. Howkinson.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff will throw the ball and somebody has to
Speaker 1: catch the ball, so why not get one of your
Speaker 1: best players on your team involved? So I think TJ.
Speaker 1: Hockinson this is fine for him. And then when you're
Speaker 1: talking about DeAndre Swift, you know, I don't have Jared
Speaker 1: Goff's stats in front of me about you know, his
Speaker 1: distribution to running backs. But DeAndre Swift, we know he's
Speaker 1: talented between the tackles the Lion to have a solid
Speaker 1: offensive line. So I think DeAndre Swift is is okay
Speaker 1: as well. I think he's gonna see the volume and
Speaker 1: that's most important when you're talking about the running backs, Quintess,
Speaker 1: sefis look, man probably just somebody that I just I
Speaker 1: mean speculative ad. Right, you're talking about that with Man Jefferson.
Speaker 1: I don't think Sefist is going to become anything. So
Speaker 1: I still think Hockinson is fine, and I'm still fine
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Swift. Yeah, I was a little bit more excited,
Speaker 1: if that's the word I want to use on Quintess
Speaker 1: c Fast when I knew that Matthew Stafford was going
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback. Now with Jared Goff, with Cefas,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like, Yeah, like you said, speculative ad,
Speaker 1: he's find a roster if you've got a deeper league.
Speaker 1: But outside of that, not really super super excited to roster,
Speaker 1: Quintas Cefas or his you know for his outlook heading
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one. Okay, man, let's talk about Dynasty.
Speaker 1: Let's break it down. Let's just say, at its clas
Speaker 1: what is Dynasty? So I'm just gonna throw you the
Speaker 1: question at its core, what makes Dynasty different than your
Speaker 1: typical work leagues that you do every single year. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the strategy. It's the different sort of ways you
Speaker 1: can go about each league mate, no matter if you're
Speaker 1: in the ten team league, twelve team league, fourteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: It's the strategy that each individual Dynasty manager takes in
Speaker 1: their approach to building your team. And that is what
Speaker 1: Dynasty is about. It is truly about building a team
Speaker 1: that can win in the short term but also substain
Speaker 1: you know, that playoff viability for the long term, and
Speaker 1: that's where the strategy comes in. Everything is important in Dynasty.
Speaker 1: Your starting ten it's important. Your depth is important, your
Speaker 1: taxi squad players, your developmental guys, your draft capital assets,
Speaker 1: your draft picks, all of that stuff is important. And
Speaker 1: unlike our traditional work leagues, Dynasty is twenty four seven,
Speaker 1: three sixty five. Baby, I mean this is there are
Speaker 1: people who are locked in every single day tweaking their team,
Speaker 1: making moves, trading fab budget. I mean, it's if you
Speaker 1: love fantasy, if you love seasonal leagues, and you're a
Speaker 1: lover of fantasy foot lover of the NFL college the
Speaker 1: managerial side of things, if you think you can be
Speaker 1: a GM, then Dynasty is where it's at because it
Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity to do that with this proxy
Speaker 1: of a game that we play. And I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you that the different strategies that you can deploy across
Speaker 1: multiple dynasty leagues. No two dynasty leagues are the same,
Speaker 1: and no strategies are the same. It's just it's an
Speaker 1: incredible format to play, Kyle, incredible. Yeah, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, it really is. I think the closest that
Speaker 1: we can get in fantasy, within the structure of fantasy
Speaker 1: football to being a GM of a team, right, and
Speaker 1: that is something that for so many people that are
Speaker 1: list I think, I'm sure you're kind of the same way,
Speaker 1: like you get Madden and you're playing like franchise mode, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's the reason why I get Madden is to
Speaker 1: play franchise mode so that way I can be the GM, right,
Speaker 1: and I can do the draft, and I might sim
Speaker 1: the season for goodness sake, right, just so I can
Speaker 1: get to the offseason and sign free agents and do
Speaker 1: the draft and all that. And that's what kind of
Speaker 1: dynasty is. So I did want to go a little
Speaker 1: bit more basic because we get questions all the time
Speaker 1: and just kind of like, I've heard about dynasty, what
Speaker 1: is it? And so I wanted to really just break
Speaker 1: it down to its core, right, And that is a
Speaker 1: lot of what you said, the strategy, and this is
Speaker 1: why we play it. But it's larger rosters. Your typical
Speaker 1: redraft leagues are going to have twelve, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, right,
Speaker 1: your draft in sixteen rounds or whatever. That's typically the
Speaker 1: size of your typical redraft league. Dynasty rosters are typically
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty. You can of course vary that
Speaker 1: and you're going to see that throughout other leagues, but
Speaker 1: that's a typical. The average is about twenty five to
Speaker 1: even thirty player rosters. Right, You keep the same players
Speaker 1: year in and year route, So rather than redrafting, right,
Speaker 1: see where that name comes from, Rather than redrafting every
Speaker 1: single year you have those same players, you do a
Speaker 1: startup draft where you have thirty rounds or however many
Speaker 1: players you have, whatever, that's so many rounds you have,
Speaker 1: and then from there you're drafting your entire team that
Speaker 1: you're going to have for years to come. Now, then
Speaker 1: each year you have a rookie draft, you're assigned rookie picks.
Speaker 1: Those are based on you're finishing you're finishing spot in
Speaker 1: the league that you had last year. So if I
Speaker 1: finished last in my league, I would have the one
Speaker 1: oh one, right that we're going to hear that phrase
Speaker 1: tossed out a lot here, right, the one O one,
Speaker 1: one h two, the one oh three, That would just
Speaker 1: be that you finished last or second to last or third.
Speaker 1: And of course, just like the NFL draft, that's the
Speaker 1: reverse order for the picks, So the players that are
Speaker 1: coming in from college football, you have the number one
Speaker 1: overall spot to be able to select the best available
Speaker 1: option there to rebuild your roster, just like the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: So you'll cut players for you're keeping the same players
Speaker 1: you're in and year out. You'll cut them based upon
Speaker 1: how many draft picks you have, you know, and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But that's the premise that's at its core
Speaker 1: what dynasty is that you're keeping the same players you're
Speaker 1: in and year out, you have larger rosters, and you
Speaker 1: have a rookie draft. Anything else on top of that
Speaker 1: rate before we move on, No, I think you hit
Speaker 1: the nail on the head there. It is the larger
Speaker 1: roster size, It is the importance of those rookie picks.
Speaker 1: It is the strategy that I sort of talked about.
Speaker 1: But that is it's the closest thing to being a
Speaker 1: GM that will properly get to is participating in a
Speaker 1: dynasty fantasy football league. And we all like to sit
Speaker 1: back and think that we can do that. We can GM.
Speaker 1: So if you really wanted to go out there and
Speaker 1: make the same type of trade that the Lions and
Speaker 1: the Rams did, shift it shipping off a quarterback for
Speaker 1: multiple picks, or you can do that in dynasty. Those
Speaker 1: are the type of things that happened. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's very much just like the Rams are in win
Speaker 1: now mode. There are some dynasty managers who are in
Speaker 1: win now mode, and that's the beauty of dynasty. But
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head, man, Yeah, for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: So additional questions that I get on Twitter and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you get the same ray or like, what kind
Speaker 1: of settings do you prefer? Right, if I'm the commissioner
Speaker 1: of my league, I want to set out I've got
Speaker 1: a group of buddies from college or what you know,
Speaker 1: work or whatever, we want to do a dynasty league.
Speaker 1: What settings should we roll with? So I get a
Speaker 1: frequent question of what's the best platform to use? So
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out three options here for you.
Speaker 1: One is my Fantasy League. It is if you want
Speaker 1: a ton a ton of customization options, my Fantasy League
Speaker 1: is the one that you the platform that I recommend
Speaker 1: because if you're going to build a very specific platform,
Speaker 1: you know, dynasty league or whatever, this is the platform
Speaker 1: that you need to be using because the customization options
Speaker 1: are endless. So however, if you're just looking for a
Speaker 1: pretty basic dynasty league and stuff like that, my Fantasy
Speaker 1: League is going to be a little bit sometimes too
Speaker 1: overwhelming to be able to kind of customize and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So the other two options that I typically
Speaker 1: point people to our Sleeper and flee Flicker. Those are
Speaker 1: the two other platforms that I recommend for housing dynasty
Speaker 1: leaks on. So my Fantasy League Sleeper and flee flicker.
Speaker 1: As far as the format that i'd recommend is typically
Speaker 1: half PPR, you just lean into that ray. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have a specific preference as far as
Speaker 1: like PPR or standard, do you typically go with half PPR? Listen,
Speaker 1: this isn't nineteen eighty no standard leagues. If you're doing
Speaker 1: standard dynasty leagues, just you might as well just track
Speaker 1: your stats scoring with pin and paper. We don't do standard.
Speaker 1: It's half point PPR or PPRS my preferred scoring format.
Speaker 1: I love that, and again that is for half point
Speaker 1: per reception. Additionally, the kind of the way that we're
Speaker 1: seeing the game of fantasy football trending is towards super flex.
Speaker 1: So if you again, I want we have a wide
Speaker 1: range of audience right here, so I want to at
Speaker 1: least break this down at least here in the first episode.
Speaker 1: Super Flex is the ability to have two quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: your starting roster. So you have your quarterback slot, and
Speaker 1: then you have a super flex spot which you're will
Speaker 1: to do either a quarterback, wide receiver, running back, or
Speaker 1: tight end. Okay, right, so at that point you're typically
Speaker 1: starting two quarterbacks because quarterbacks are kind of the safer
Speaker 1: options to get the most point. So super flex is
Speaker 1: the ability to start two quarterbacks two quarterback leagues, or
Speaker 1: you are locked into starting two quarterbacks. Okay, so super
Speaker 1: flex is typically what I recommend because it's a ton
Speaker 1: of fun. If you have not done a super flex league,
Speaker 1: it really places a high value on the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing wrong with a one quarterback league whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I'm in plenty of those. They're great. I just personally
Speaker 1: prefer the super flex. It's typically what I recommend fab bidding,
Speaker 1: which stands for free agent acquisition budget bidding. So that's
Speaker 1: your waiver wires. Again, when you have larger rosters, your
Speaker 1: waivers are typically not that active. Right, you have the
Speaker 1: who's a player that's Jalen Guyton this past year out
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles Chargers, Like no one knew who Jalen
Speaker 1: Guyton was, right, and so he was barely rostered in leagues,
Speaker 1: even in deep dynasty leagues. But he came out and
Speaker 1: he you know, it was fantasy viable towards the end
Speaker 1: of the season. That would be someone an example of
Speaker 1: someone that he's sitting on your waiver wire. You want
Speaker 1: to go out and you want to spend FAB on
Speaker 1: him to get him. That's typically what you do rather
Speaker 1: than a waiver wire priority. As far as the last
Speaker 1: place team in the league, you know, fab bidding gives
Speaker 1: you one hundred dollars or whatever to spend throughout the season.
Speaker 1: You get to determine when and where and how you
Speaker 1: spend that. Anything that you want to add there on
Speaker 1: those two sections there right. Again, this we haven't talked
Speaker 1: about this. These are not extensive notes, So I'm just
Speaker 1: wanting to kind of bounce this off of each other
Speaker 1: and just say, like anything to add here with either
Speaker 1: super flex or FAB or anything, I thought I would
Speaker 1: just say that for those of you who are maybe
Speaker 1: a little reluctant to converting over to a super flex league,
Speaker 1: you gotta try it. It does. Super Flex and two
Speaker 1: QB are different, right, two QB you must, as Kyle said,
Speaker 1: you must start two quarterbacks. Super flex you have the
Speaker 1: option to start two quarterbacks. But you know what, if
Speaker 1: you want to roll out an additional running back in
Speaker 1: an extra flex spot, that's your prerogative. I just I
Speaker 1: highly encourage everybody to try at least one super flex
Speaker 1: league because it makes the Jared Goffs of the world.
Speaker 1: It makes the the Mitchell trubiskis of the world valuable,
Speaker 1: especially when you're later in the season and you need
Speaker 1: to roll out a player who can get you twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty points. So please please try superflex I play
Speaker 1: in a ton of one QB leagues as well. And
Speaker 1: the fab bidding to me, that just that is what
Speaker 1: sort of you know, another one of those wrinkles that
Speaker 1: makes dynasty so important because that money is important. That's
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks that you get for the season or
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars or whatever the limit is. And as
Speaker 1: Kyle alluded to, you know, normally the waiver wire isn't
Speaker 1: super deep. But for those of you who pay attention
Speaker 1: and you're you're diving into those college prospects, you can
Speaker 1: sneak of Philip Lindsay off of the waiver wire early
Speaker 1: in the summer. You can grab a James I got
Speaker 1: James Robins rob off the waiver wire. So and that's
Speaker 1: another part of dynasty, man. It's it's those Jalen Guidance,
Speaker 1: the James Robinson's and you find those off those deep
Speaker 1: waiver wires. So man, it's just you gotta try it.
Speaker 1: You have to try it. So we I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick deviation. We are recording this Saturday night, and
Speaker 1: news just broke again. It could be different sources telling
Speaker 1: me Bears deal for Wentz is close, Folds is speculated
Speaker 1: to be included with another offensive player and a first rounder.
Speaker 1: So here we go. We will we'll be back to
Speaker 1: talk about that when we when we actually have a
Speaker 1: deal in place. But we got breaking news. I wondered, dude,
Speaker 1: I wondered when we sat down to record, I wondered
Speaker 1: if we were going to get news on at Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz and the Chicago Bears. My Chicago Bears. This is great, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's move on. So we talked about the super flex.
Speaker 1: The fab bidding deeper starting rosters is something that I
Speaker 1: did want to mention too. So in a typical redraft league,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you've got two running backs, two
Speaker 1: wide receivers, quarterback at tight end, you might have another
Speaker 1: flex spot, and then you might have your kicker defense
Speaker 1: or whatever. So the in typical dynasty leagues, where you're
Speaker 1: going to see is three running backs, three wide receivers,
Speaker 1: one tight end, and maybe even one to two flex spots.
Speaker 1: I'm in a league, actually I think all of my
Speaker 1: dynasty leagues at this point have completely eliminated a kicker
Speaker 1: and defense and that's just fantastic. I'm so happy that
Speaker 1: I don't have to even worry about kickers or defenses.
Speaker 1: So again, when you have your twenty five you know,
Speaker 1: player benches or player rosters or whatever. To have the
Speaker 1: deeper starting rosters is it does allow you to be
Speaker 1: able to roll those guys in, get some more points
Speaker 1: on the board, and at least be able to utilize
Speaker 1: a lot of your roster. It would be a little
Speaker 1: bit disappointing or a little bit more difficult to figure
Speaker 1: out which players you're going to start when you have
Speaker 1: twenty five players to two s or many, you can
Speaker 1: only start seven of them, you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So typically deeper starting rosters again, I mentioned the twenty
Speaker 1: five players. Ray you alluded to the taxi squad. Do
Speaker 1: you want to break down what a taxi squad is
Speaker 1: for people who wouldn't know what that is. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: the taxi squad is sort of after you fulfill your
Speaker 1: requirements for your for your active roster. It's almost just like,
Speaker 1: and I want to relate this to real NFL terms,
Speaker 1: because that's sort of what dynasty is. It's your practice
Speaker 1: squad of your dynasty roster. Right, So these are players
Speaker 1: on your taxi squad that you know you pick up
Speaker 1: late and there they're developmental guys. They're probably not going
Speaker 1: to do anything for you this season, but the settings
Speaker 1: allow you to hold you know, five, six, seven of
Speaker 1: those guys on your taxi squad, and once they're designated
Speaker 1: for taxis some leagues, you can't move them for an
Speaker 1: entire year. Some of them, if you move them up
Speaker 1: and you call them in quotes up to the active roster,
Speaker 1: you can't put them back down. But essentially you can
Speaker 1: keep those developmental guys as stashis and hopefully they pan out.
Speaker 1: So if there was a guy, there was a player
Speaker 1: for the Vikings a couple of years ago, Brandon Zee,
Speaker 1: I can't even pronounce his last name, Zilstra Zelstra or
Speaker 1: something like that, but yeah, I thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be a player, so I put him on my
Speaker 1: taxi squad, held him for a couple of years. Didn't
Speaker 1: pan out, but you know what it was, it was
Speaker 1: worth the taxi squad. But these players do not count
Speaker 1: towards your active roster limit. You just get to hold
Speaker 1: him there and hopefully they develop. Hopefully they turn into something,
Speaker 1: and if they do, then you elevate them to your
Speaker 1: active roster. You have to drop one off if you're filled,
Speaker 1: but then you've got another free spot to add rookies,
Speaker 1: and taxi squad is normally for only rookies, So you know,
Speaker 1: you get your four round Ricky draft. You add a
Speaker 1: taxi squad practice player rookie to your taxi squad. Let
Speaker 1: them sit there and let them chill there for a
Speaker 1: year or two, and hopefully they turn into something. So
Speaker 1: if you've got that scout's eye and you want to
Speaker 1: take the small school guy out of William and Mary
Speaker 1: because you truly believe that he can become a player,
Speaker 1: throw him on your taxi and hopefully he develops in
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Yeah, and I will say
Speaker 1: that I play in a few leagues that have taxi squads.
Speaker 1: I play a few dynasty leagues that don't have taxi squads.
Speaker 1: There's not a requirement that you have to have that.
Speaker 1: If you are sitting or setting out and you want
Speaker 1: to commission your league and you want to set this up,
Speaker 1: you do not have to have a taxi squad. It's nice,
Speaker 1: it's nice to have it there, but you do not
Speaker 1: have to have one. But Ray did a great job
Speaker 1: at least breaking down what that purpose is meant for.
Speaker 1: It's more so for the deeper Dynasty leagues, the guys
Speaker 1: who are taking a little bit more seriously. So I
Speaker 1: did want to talk about this too, Ray, how to
Speaker 1: value the rookie picks, right, because that's one of the
Speaker 1: biggest parts of Dynasty is the rookie picks And how
Speaker 1: do we even value them? How do we even go
Speaker 1: about thinking about them and stuff like that when we
Speaker 1: set out. When I set out to do my first
Speaker 1: ever Dynasty League back and I think the twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: or twenty seventeen or whatever it was, I completely overvalued
Speaker 1: rookie picks. I think that was the year it was
Speaker 1: either Sequan coming out or it was someone else above that.
Speaker 1: And I just like completely was like, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: give you DeAndre Hopkins, and I will give you Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: and I will say, you know, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was all in on getting that number one overall pick,
Speaker 1: and looking back now, I'm like that was a terrible trade.
Speaker 1: And far as far as like value and what I
Speaker 1: gave up because I became enamored with the rookie picks
Speaker 1: and the unknowns and the potential and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So let's at least talk about this, have a conversation
Speaker 1: of how do we value rookie picks? Do you have
Speaker 1: any insight here that you want to provide Since this
Speaker 1: is the first show, Kyle, I'm gonna just get this
Speaker 1: out of the way. I'm gonna get this out of
Speaker 1: the way now because you all are gonna hear you
Speaker 1: all are gonna hear this from me so many times.
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, this is just Dynasty. It depends, Kyle.
Speaker 1: It truly depends. So while you say you may have
Speaker 1: overvalued those rookie picks, then you know this year it
Speaker 1: might be a pretty good time to overvalue those rookie picks.
Speaker 1: I mean, it truly depends year to year. My advice
Speaker 1: that I can give Dynasty managers is whatever you're hoping
Speaker 1: to accomplish in that given year, you have to be
Speaker 1: honest with yourself. You have to look your team in
Speaker 1: the mirror and say, this team is a contender. And
Speaker 1: if your team is a contender, then you do deals
Speaker 1: like the Rams did, and you go get players to
Speaker 1: help you win that upcoming year. But if you look
Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror and you look at your roster
Speaker 1: up and down Taxi squad to the tip top of
Speaker 1: that roster, and it ain't gonna compete, You're probably not
Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs, then it's probably a
Speaker 1: prudent move to overvalue those rookie picks. It truly depends
Speaker 1: on where your team is in comparison to the rest
Speaker 1: of your league and sort of your philosophy for building
Speaker 1: that current, that dynasty team. It truly truly depends, and
Speaker 1: y'all are going to hear that from me a lot.
Speaker 1: It depends. I think it's completely fair, and it's one
Speaker 1: of the things that I really lean into when people
Speaker 1: ask me about trade values and stuff like that. Who
Speaker 1: I have this player, I have this pick, who would
Speaker 1: you trade them for? It's like, I, dude, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, and we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We gotta question in the listener mailback about that. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into that too much, but
Speaker 1: I did want to at least just mentioned here. And
Speaker 1: it also ties into the startup Draft two as far
Speaker 1: as overvaluing the rookies right Overvaluing youth. Youth is important,
Speaker 1: but yet I think it's something that it's really important
Speaker 1: to keep in mind where I mentioned it earlier, play
Speaker 1: within a window of two to three years. One of
Speaker 1: the mistakes that I made when I first set out
Speaker 1: and play dynasty was saying that, all right, I've got
Speaker 1: this player who is turning twenty one or twenty two
Speaker 1: when they enter their rookie season in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to have them on this dynasty roster for
Speaker 1: the next ten to fifteen years. No, you're not. You
Speaker 1: are going to eventually trade that player away, or your
Speaker 1: league is going to end, or you know whatever. Like,
Speaker 1: there are so many different factors that are going the
Speaker 1: percentage chance that you have that specific player on your
Speaker 1: roster for ten to fifteen years. Things changed so much
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You're seeing it this offseason where you're
Speaker 1: seeing Carson Wentz, You're seeing you know, Deshaun wattson trade rumors,
Speaker 1: you're seeing Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, retired, Matthew Stafford, Jared Dopp. Like,
Speaker 1: there's so many dominoes and things that change in the
Speaker 1: NFL that drastically impact these players and their value their worth.
Speaker 1: So when I went into my first startup draft, I
Speaker 1: really overvalue the youth and I left value on the
Speaker 1: board as far as some players that could help me
Speaker 1: win a fantasy championship right away, and I went for
Speaker 1: the younger players. So that's something that I did at
Speaker 1: least want to mention here. Is right as the valuing
Speaker 1: rookie picks and rookies in general. Keep it all in mind,
Speaker 1: and it depends on the strength of the class, which
Speaker 1: is what Ray mentioned. So again we'll talk about that,
Speaker 1: and we've got a couple of questions here within the
Speaker 1: listener mailbag that we'll get too. So other tips here
Speaker 1: that I did wanted at least just mentioned. Again, I said,
Speaker 1: the play within a window of two to three years.
Speaker 1: That's typically the way that you need to be thinking
Speaker 1: about dynasty fantasy football. It's not this ten year window
Speaker 1: or whatever. No, your window is two to three years.
Speaker 1: You're making your decisions within that range because again, so
Speaker 1: much changes within that timeframe. So and then additionally, the
Speaker 1: other thing that I wanted to mention is, no, your
Speaker 1: league if you're setting out your first year, obviously this
Speaker 1: is going to take some time to figure out. But
Speaker 1: if you've been with your league for your you know
Speaker 1: the guys who overvalue rookie picks, you know the player,
Speaker 1: the person in your league who is the easiest to
Speaker 1: trade with, the one who has you know, itchy trade
Speaker 1: fingers right on, the one who just wants to trade
Speaker 1: for the sake of trading. Those are the guys. Knowing
Speaker 1: your league is crucial to maximizing value and being able
Speaker 1: to capitalize on that. So that's something that I did
Speaker 1: want to mention too. And of course, if you play
Speaker 1: Dynasty with your that group of friends or whatever for
Speaker 1: any length of time, you know that you know that
Speaker 1: you know your league and who you can identify and
Speaker 1: not take advantage of, but at least have those conversations with.
Speaker 1: So anything else before we move into the listener mailbag
Speaker 1: here ray as far as other tips or tricks here
Speaker 1: for Dynasty, maybe even specifically for people who are setting
Speaker 1: out to do their first ever Dynasty league. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you kind of touched on something that I also
Speaker 1: think is very very important, and it's when you're establishing
Speaker 1: that league, make sure your league mates kind of know
Speaker 1: what they're getting themselves helves into, right, because the worst
Speaker 1: thing and We talked about all the great reasons why
Speaker 1: you must participate in a dynasty league, but one of
Speaker 1: the things that's like the biggest buzz kill for any
Speaker 1: dynasty league is inactivity. And a lot of that inactivity
Speaker 1: is cost because your friends that you advited to the
Speaker 1: league don't truly understand what it is or how it
Speaker 1: really operates. So make sure that when you're choosing your
Speaker 1: league mates, they understand that, hey, this is sort of
Speaker 1: a it's not just an August through December league, like
Speaker 1: we do a lot of things throughout the entire year
Speaker 1: because a good group of guys, a good group of people, guys, women,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Good good league. That's what makes dynasty go around, right.
Speaker 1: You want to have as many people engage throughout the
Speaker 1: year is possible. And if you don't notify your league
Speaker 1: mates or give them all the necessary information of how
Speaker 1: a dynasty league works, I promise you they will treat
Speaker 1: it like a redraft league and you not have fun,
Speaker 1: and you'll be looking for new dynasty managers every single year.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's a buzz kill for the entire league.
Speaker 1: So please, please, please, when you're when you're sending out
Speaker 1: those invitations to friends, to family, make sure they understand
Speaker 1: that this is this is quite a bit different than
Speaker 1: your traditional seasonal leagues. I completely agree. That's awesome, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you mentioned in that. Okay, let's move into
Speaker 1: the listener mailbag. To be honest, we had over one
Speaker 1: hundred questions come in on my listener mailbag tweet, which
Speaker 1: I did not expect. So one that just says like,
Speaker 1: how many people are going to be listening to this
Speaker 1: and the support is overwhelming. We've talked about that, like,
Speaker 1: we just greatly appreciate that. However, we are not going
Speaker 1: to get to all one hundred questions. So I went
Speaker 1: through and we're going to get to as many as
Speaker 1: we can. Ran I both have families, so we cannot
Speaker 1: be here for a three hour podcast unfortunately, as much
Speaker 1: as we would love to. So we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: as many as we can and we'll just try to
Speaker 1: fly through them. So Kane, Rob is the first question here?
Speaker 1: Tell us why we shouldn't be worried with Davonte Smith
Speaker 1: or should But I know Ray loves him is what
Speaker 1: he includes here. I am not too concerned, but I
Speaker 1: know the analytics side is so I would love to
Speaker 1: hear in depth film side of why success is likely
Speaker 1: or not. So let's just double back to his original question.
Speaker 1: There tell us why we shouldn't be worried with Davante Smith.
Speaker 1: Ray go, well, the first show and you're already hitting
Speaker 1: me with one of the most controversial players in this class.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I've I've actually muted the last
Speaker 1: name Smith on Twitter, so I didn't even see this question.
Speaker 1: But I'll just say this and I'll keep it brief.
Speaker 1: I'll keep it brief. He has dominated SEC competition for
Speaker 1: the past two seasons. He had over twelve hundred receiving
Speaker 1: yards on a team that consisted of Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs,
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle, Nag Harris. He comes out this season shows
Speaker 1: that he can dominate as the sole focal point of
Speaker 1: the Alabama offense while breaking every SEC record that the
Speaker 1: A War mentioned SEC Player of the Year sever the
Speaker 1: Year Jamar Chase set in twenty nineteen. Despite his slender frame,
Speaker 1: he's an excellent route runner. He creates fantastic separation off
Speaker 1: in the line of scrimmage. He's got deceptive home run ability,
Speaker 1: and he has never been injured except for the final
Speaker 1: game of the season in his collegiate career, and that
Speaker 1: was a thumb injury. I'm not concerned about it. Dominated
Speaker 1: SEC competition in the past two years, was able to
Speaker 1: be the guy facing double triple team coverage, excellent releases.
Speaker 1: He's going to get the draft capitol. Don't be weary
Speaker 1: of Davante Smith. Can absolutely fly around the field too,
Speaker 1: has incredible speed to play devil's advocate here. The argument
Speaker 1: against DeVante Smith is that he is one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty five one hundred and seventy pounds. We don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what his weight is, but it is a slender frame.
Speaker 1: Now to compensate for that, and this is ridiculous. Davante
Speaker 1: Smith's wingspan is at what is he six one? I
Speaker 1: think he's sixty one one seventy five hundred seventy or whatever.
Speaker 1: His wingspan is larger or longer, however we want to
Speaker 1: classify that, then Antonio Gandy Golden who came out of
Speaker 1: Liberty last year, who was six to four, and it
Speaker 1: is equivalent to Colin Johnson's who is six six and
Speaker 1: the wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So DeVante Smith,
Speaker 1: even though it's absurd. So even though DeVante Smith is
Speaker 1: six one, one hundred and seventy pounds, his wingspan allows
Speaker 1: him to go up and be able to catch these
Speaker 1: contested catches that you're just like, how in the world
Speaker 1: is he getting this with his frame or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: because he has a ridiculous wingspan. He's able to go
Speaker 1: up and high point the ball. So really well rounded player.
Speaker 1: That's the argument against Devantae Smith. But I completely agree
Speaker 1: with Ray. It's just going to be a matter of
Speaker 1: how the NFL values him as far as where he
Speaker 1: goes in the NFL draft. But for our purposes in
Speaker 1: fantasy football, DeVante Smith really good drafted within the top
Speaker 1: five picks. De Rito's I play in a sixteen team
Speaker 1: dynasty where you only start one quarterback, so waivers are
Speaker 1: very thin at the position. Would you look at this
Speaker 1: almost like a superflex in terms of quarterback value and
Speaker 1: would that change how I should draft. I'll throw this
Speaker 1: to you and then I'll answer, Yeah, sixteen team leagues
Speaker 1: are a beast. Quarterbacks are very very scarce, and this
Speaker 1: is the one exception. Sixteen team one quarterback leagues and
Speaker 1: goodness graces, especially super flex or two QB leagues. You
Speaker 1: know there needs to be a premium on the quarterback,
Speaker 1: so you know, to answer your question, yes, I would
Speaker 1: look at it in terms of super flex, and but
Speaker 1: it depends on what quarterbacks you currently have on your team,
Speaker 1: right And luckily for you this twenty twenty one class,
Speaker 1: there are quite a few quarterbacks that could end up
Speaker 1: being NFL starters, so there should be a nice little
Speaker 1: bit of influx of quarterback talent. But sixteen team dynasty
Speaker 1: leagues are rough. I've only been in two, and those
Speaker 1: two I tried to play the whole late round quarterback
Speaker 1: game and that was an epic fail. So please please
Speaker 1: get your quarterbacks in sixteen team leagues. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that you like were like yes, because that's like literally
Speaker 1: what I have written down, Like yes, ish right, because
Speaker 1: it's not the same as a super flex, but yet
Speaker 1: sixteen teams is ridiculous that you have to have the
Speaker 1: depth there, right, So I don't think it's necessarily as
Speaker 1: far as like you need to have two solid, solid options,
Speaker 1: like it isn't a super flex, but it's more so
Speaker 1: just having the depth. And so yeah, I do think
Speaker 1: that at least looking to have three to four quarterbacks
Speaker 1: on your roster, especially in a sixteen team league, that
Speaker 1: are starters, right that that, but not necessarily having two
Speaker 1: top ten guys if that makes sense, So right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Anthony Haydar asked, considering potential lack of combine and normal
Speaker 1: draft prep this year in the twenty twenty one offseason,
Speaker 1: would you invest more in twenty twenty two's rookie draft
Speaker 1: or is the talent in this class worth it. I'll
Speaker 1: answer to this one first, So I think I'm fine
Speaker 1: in investing in this rookie draft. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: sell all of my twenty twenty one rookie draft picks,
Speaker 1: you know, just because of the fact that there is
Speaker 1: no combine. We're going to see the structure here in
Speaker 1: case those who are not aware the structure is there's
Speaker 1: no specific combined as far as the on field testing
Speaker 1: or drills or anything like that. They're all going to
Speaker 1: be at their pro days. Pro days are notorious for
Speaker 1: having inflated numbers so as far as the forty yard
Speaker 1: dashes and three cones and all this stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit weird. But yet also last
Speaker 1: year was really weird and we saw Justin Jefferson, Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: Deander Swift, Jacodot. We saw all these guys step in
Speaker 1: and produce almost immediately, So I'm not super scared off
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one rookie class. It's not as
Speaker 1: deep of a class, especially at running back. So as
Speaker 1: far as the later picks, I might be more willing.
Speaker 1: If you have someone who's like, I gotta have a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one third round pick. I don't know why
Speaker 1: they would be doing that, but I gotta have that pick,
Speaker 1: then I'm fine selling that off if I can get
Speaker 1: value on it. But as far as the top of
Speaker 1: the class, I'm still fine investing. What do you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just want to say this, the fact that
Speaker 1: there's no combine really should not impact how we view
Speaker 1: this class. Right, if there were no combine in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was still going to be good, DeAndre Swift
Speaker 1: was still going to be a beast. We knew CD
Speaker 1: Lamb was good, we knew Justin Jefferson was good. The combine,
Speaker 1: while very entertaining, and it helps us paint a more
Speaker 1: complete picture with some of these prospect profiles because we
Speaker 1: do get official speed numbers and we get official heights
Speaker 1: and wait and all of that other good stuff. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: it's just it's one small piece of the puzzle that
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we overvalue what happens
Speaker 1: at the Underwear Olympics. So the fact that there's not
Speaker 1: going to be a combine in the traditional sense, don't
Speaker 1: be scared off by these twenty twenty one guys. You
Speaker 1: don't need a combine for anybody to tell you that
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is good, that naj Harris is good, that
Speaker 1: Travis et And is good, that Trevor Lawrence is good.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that now. As far as the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two class, as Kyle said, this class is it's
Speaker 1: really really good at the top and then it falls
Speaker 1: off a cliff really really fast. Twenty twenty one. So
Speaker 1: if you're in a league with people who are crazy.
Speaker 1: We talked about the overvaluation of those picks who are
Speaker 1: crazy about those picks, and you're sitting in round three,
Speaker 1: and trust me, I know it sounds crazy. It happens
Speaker 1: every single year, Kyle, you've seen it. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty two first for your for your third round,
Speaker 1: or I just I have to take Kyland Hill from
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I'm telling you right now, press accept, yes,
Speaker 1: send it to me to twenty twenty two class. I've
Speaker 1: said a lot of bad things about it in the past.
Speaker 1: It's shaping up to be a heck of a lot
Speaker 1: better than I thought it was going into the season.
Speaker 1: If anyone offers you a first round pick for a
Speaker 1: third round twenty twenty one draft selection, yes, press accept
Speaker 1: and have a good night. I have a good night.
Speaker 1: I love that, all right, Papa Dean, who is the
Speaker 1: number four running back in the twenty twenty one class,
Speaker 1: assuming and they've put in parenthesis here, assuming that Harris
Speaker 1: et N and Javanti Williams are the top three. So
Speaker 1: again we've got people who are tuning in and they
Speaker 1: this might be the first Dynasty podcast that they listened
Speaker 1: to the entire season. So the Harris is Naji Harris
Speaker 1: running back out of Alabama, six three, two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty pounds, just an absolute beast RB one lock it in.
Speaker 1: Travis E. T N running back out of Clemson, really
Speaker 1: really talented speedster improved his past catching ability a lot
Speaker 1: this past season. He's a solid player. I don't think
Speaker 1: that he's on the same level as Naji Harris, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I still really like him. And then Javonte Williams out
Speaker 1: of North Carolina just a bowling ball of a prospect.
Speaker 1: I really really like his game. Again, not at the
Speaker 1: same level of Naji Harris, but that is typically what
Speaker 1: you're going to see and that's actually my personal rankings too.
Speaker 1: As far as Naji Harris, Travis c TN and Javonta Williams.
Speaker 1: So who is the number four running back in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one class, right, Who do you got sitting
Speaker 1: there at the number four spot? Well, Kyle, I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you, who do you have? Man? Who
Speaker 1: do you have at number four? Who's your guy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got the two guys that are in or at
Speaker 1: least in that conversation. And I really again you talked
Speaker 1: about it. It It falls off a cliff So I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone else that I haven't scouted yet is
Speaker 1: going to jump into that. But right now the conversation
Speaker 1: is Kenneth Gainwell, who I do have sitting there at
Speaker 1: number four Memphis running back? Who for me I comp
Speaker 1: to JD McKissick. Jad McKissick. As far as his receiving ability,
Speaker 1: his ability to be a receiving weapon out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: That is where I almost called him, where Keneth Gainwell
Speaker 1: is going to shine some of the best hands that
Speaker 1: I've seen out of a running back out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy what Memphis continues to produce at the
Speaker 1: running back position. Gainwell sat out this twenty twenty season
Speaker 1: because of COVID concerns, so it's been a while since
Speaker 1: we've seen him on the field. But he is somewhat
Speaker 1: slighter frame. I think he's just over two hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: might even actually be under it, I can't remember off
Speaker 1: the top of my head. So but he's going to
Speaker 1: specialize as a pass catching back. If you're in a
Speaker 1: full PPR format, he might be that guy that breaks that.
Speaker 1: But for me, he's number four. And then the other
Speaker 1: one is Michael Carter, Javonte will Lames' teammate at North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Carter is someone who for me comp to I think
Speaker 1: Ben Solac of the Locked On NFL Draft podcast compared
Speaker 1: to Niheim Hines, and I really like that comp for
Speaker 1: Michael Carter, someone who, again excellent pass catcher out of
Speaker 1: the backfield, smooth fee, excellent footwork, excellent vision between the tackles,
Speaker 1: excellent burst Like this is just he's a really, really
Speaker 1: solid running back. He's not going to be a guy
Speaker 1: who toats the ball twenty times a game. It's just
Speaker 1: not his what his body weight or body structure is
Speaker 1: able to support. Just over two hundred pounds as well,
Speaker 1: so more so of that change of pace, you get
Speaker 1: him the ball in space you let him create. But
Speaker 1: has the potential to be very, very solid for fantasy football.
Speaker 1: So that's those are my top five. It's Harris et n,
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, Kenneth Gainwell, and then Michael Carter right behind him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Kenneth Gainwell. He's he's the answer to the
Speaker 1: question for me as well. He's r before I'd love
Speaker 1: the JD mckissic call. I've said a better version of
Speaker 1: James White of the New England Patriots. And all I'll
Speaker 1: say for those of you who are kind of like
Speaker 1: because he only played one season, he's declaring after his
Speaker 1: rid shirt sophomore season, and I'm using air quotes because
Speaker 1: he didn't play. But we all love Antonio Gibson. You know,
Speaker 1: there are people who say Antonio Gibson is the top
Speaker 1: ten Top twelve Dynasty running back. Kenneth Ganwell is the
Speaker 1: reason why Antonio Gibson only had thirty three cherries in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I mean over six hundred receiving yards, over
Speaker 1: twelve hundred rushing yards as a red shirt freshman. And
Speaker 1: I believe he's going to be drafted at twenty years old.
Speaker 1: So he's sort of the anti Nagy Harris. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people knock Naji because he's older. I
Speaker 1: don't really care. But Kenneth Gainwell the best pass catching
Speaker 1: running back by far in this class. He should be
Speaker 1: an immediate threat to catch a lot of passes out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. And I think he's just a hit Well.
Speaker 1: The last he played, he was a hair under two hundred.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if he checked out at you know,
Speaker 1: two O two, two o three at memphisis pro day.
Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal back man. He's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: bell cow type guy, but you don't need that. Eckler's
Speaker 1: not a bell count. He's been in top whatever RB
Speaker 1: for the past so many years. Gain Well's phenomenal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gain Well's receiving grade in my like grading system and
Speaker 1: how I scout. It's the highest of this class, and
Speaker 1: it's the highest set I've ever given out to a
Speaker 1: running back. So ballo Luigi, I think, is how you
Speaker 1: pronounce her name on Twitter? Who are some wide receivers
Speaker 1: who didn't exactly show out as rookies that you expect
Speaker 1: to break out in year two. I've got a few
Speaker 1: names if you're if you're if you want to hear
Speaker 1: them first, Yeah, go ahead, drop him back? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So I've got Henry Ruggs. Henry Ruggs was my number
Speaker 1: two wide receiver in this last class. Now this comes
Speaker 1: with like an asterisk because it still depends on John
Speaker 1: Gruden figuring out how to best utilize Henry Ruggs rather
Speaker 1: than as a field stretcher, actually giving him the ball
Speaker 1: underneath and letting him create after the catch, which is
Speaker 1: what he specializes in. So I'm not completely giving up
Speaker 1: on Henry Ruggs. There are so many people who are
Speaker 1: like I wasted a first round pick on Ruggs. Those
Speaker 1: are the people that I'm targeting in dynasty leagues, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'll take Rugs off your hands. Additionally, his
Speaker 1: teammate Brian Edwards. Brian Edwards was barely on the field
Speaker 1: this past year for Las Vegas, but his talent, his ability,
Speaker 1: I think his role as that possession style receiver, incredible hands,
Speaker 1: incredible contested catchability. Again, another guy that I'm not willing
Speaker 1: to move off of just yet. I've got a few
Speaker 1: of the names. What I want toss it to you. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so I've I've got one, and I pounded the table
Speaker 1: for this guy last year. But I think Jalen Raiger.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back to the first game
Speaker 1: of the season, he catches that fifty five yard bomb
Speaker 1: from Carson Wentz and it looked like it was going
Speaker 1: to be wheels up, and then the wheels completely fell
Speaker 1: off the Philadelphia Eagles tracks like the whole team just imploded, right,
Speaker 1: But I think Jalen Raiger is a player that I'm
Speaker 1: not bailing on after one season. And listen, I think
Speaker 1: we talked about this guy, Kyle when I came on
Speaker 1: the show last time. But it's looking like the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars are going to take Trevor Lawrence at the at
Speaker 1: the one oh one in the NFL Draft, number one
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Listen Colin Johnson as some that
Speaker 1: I'm still in dynasty. I want Colin Johnson. I want
Speaker 1: that six foot six monster who showed some promise this season.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna have Trevor Lawrence and Urban Meyer. Colin
Speaker 1: Johnson Jalen Reagor are two guys that I think that
Speaker 1: I expect a decent little breakout, as well as somebody
Speaker 1: from your hometown Chicago Bears, and we definitely got to
Speaker 1: see it, I think that last game. But Darnell Money
Speaker 1: is somebody I'm still really high on as well. I
Speaker 1: like Money a lot, Yeah, for sure. The few of
Speaker 1: the names that I'll mention here, Devin DuVernay. He was
Speaker 1: out of Texas now with the Baltimore Ravens. I do
Speaker 1: expect that we're going to see Willie Sneed move on
Speaker 1: from this team, in which creates a role for DuVernay
Speaker 1: in the slot. Again, it depends on what they do
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. It's a low passing volume offense,
Speaker 1: but DuVernay doesn't need a lot to be able to create.
Speaker 1: So if you're in a deeper dynasty at league, DuVernay
Speaker 1: as someone that I'm excited about. The other one that
Speaker 1: I'll mention Denzel Mims wide receiver for the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: whether they are going with Sam Darneld next year or
Speaker 1: if they end up taking a Trey Lance justin fields,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, what are those guys that number or two? Overall?
Speaker 1: I think that Mims is heading into Mims was someone
Speaker 1: who was raw coming out right like he needed that year,
Speaker 1: and we saw the flashes from him last season when
Speaker 1: he was healthy and on the field. So I think
Speaker 1: Mims heading into next year, he's going to see a
Speaker 1: quarterback upgrade, or the situation around him improve, or the
Speaker 1: fact that he's going to have a full season under
Speaker 1: his belt. So Mims is someone too that I think
Speaker 1: you can acquire pretty cheap. Neil Mitchell asked, is Julio
Speaker 1: a bye or a cell? Is the name value still
Speaker 1: too high to make him a buye or is he
Speaker 1: a wide receiver one fantasy option for twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: if you're in the wind window, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with Julio Jones. I
Speaker 1: legitimately don't because for me, I'll answer is quickly like
Speaker 1: for me, it doesn't come down to Julio the talent
Speaker 1: or Julio and his ability at this point of his career.
Speaker 1: It's not like I think Julio as far as his
Speaker 1: production is going to have an aj green dip right
Speaker 1: where it's just going to fall off the cliff and
Speaker 1: Julio can't catch like the Monstars in Space jam took
Speaker 1: his talent or whatever, like I think that Julio is
Speaker 1: gonna produce, But it is when he's on the field.
Speaker 1: It's the injury concerns for me. How at this point
Speaker 1: of his career, with how many injuries Julio has played through,
Speaker 1: has battled, is he now at the point of his
Speaker 1: career where we're not going to get a sixteen game
Speaker 1: season out of Julio? What do you think? And this
Speaker 1: is dynasty for you? You know. We can go ahead
Speaker 1: and wish Julio Jones a happy birthday. His birthday is Monday.
Speaker 1: He turns thirty two years old on Monday. I'm looking
Speaker 1: it up right now, February eighth, This is his birthday
Speaker 1: at thirty two years old. A player who it just
Speaker 1: seems like every single week you're just every time he
Speaker 1: gets hit, you're just hoping he gets up or he
Speaker 1: doesn't limp off to the sideline. We know the talent
Speaker 1: is there. If Julio's on the field, Julio is going
Speaker 1: to be a beast. But for me, personally, he is
Speaker 1: if I can sell him for I mean, what are
Speaker 1: you what are you accepting for him right now? A
Speaker 1: high second round pick, A late first round pick. I
Speaker 1: highly doubt anybody's giving you a first form. So it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where he name value may yield
Speaker 1: you some decent return, but it may not look like
Speaker 1: what you think a name like Julio Jones should get you. Therefore,
Speaker 1: he may just be a hold. Right. You don't want
Speaker 1: to sell him low, And I'm telling you this, I'm
Speaker 1: not buying high on Julio Jones. I think, listen, this
Speaker 1: is Dynasty, and in my philosophy, this is just how
Speaker 1: Ray G Dynasty's I would rather be a year early
Speaker 1: on moving a player than a year too late. And
Speaker 1: that's just my personal philosophy. So for me, Julio is
Speaker 1: a cell and I would be I'd be comfortable if
Speaker 1: he goes out there and produces a wide receiver one
Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty one. If he does that, then
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But if I can move him
Speaker 1: for late first or a second, he's gone. I think
Speaker 1: I'm in that same boat where especially for a first,
Speaker 1: where we get to that early second is going to
Speaker 1: be something that I really start to think about. And
Speaker 1: I have to evaluate where my team's at as far
Speaker 1: as am I really in a window window. But if
Speaker 1: I can get someone to pay me a top five
Speaker 1: pet pick this point, then Julio's off my team. Like
Speaker 1: and I'm fine, Like you said, I'm fine if he
Speaker 1: produces a wide receiver one to you know, season next year,
Speaker 1: because and the wide receiver that I'd be able to
Speaker 1: get at that spot we're looking at Jalen Waddle, Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: Stavante Smith, any of those three I think are going
Speaker 1: to be available for you at number five overalls. Stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So John sign and asked how much value
Speaker 1: does AJ Dillon hold if Aaron Jones doesn't return? So
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon evaluation, I don't know. I actually don't remember
Speaker 1: where you had AJ Dillon or your thoughts and kind
Speaker 1: of where you what your opinion was on AJ Dillon
Speaker 1: coming out. I'm just gonna be honest. I wasn't a fan.
Speaker 1: I did not have a J Dillon ranked very highly,
Speaker 1: but moving into this next season, as far as if
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones does truly move on, we're talking about the
Speaker 1: starting running back for a Ross or for an Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers led offense, you know. So it's like, at that
Speaker 1: point AJ Dillon, I don't care what he does. If
Speaker 1: he's getting fifteen touches per week, he's in Aaron Rodgers' offense, like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: sign me up. So I guess with Aaron Jones, I
Speaker 1: really don't expect him to be back. I don't think
Speaker 1: that Green Bay has the cap room to at least
Speaker 1: be able to try to make that work. That could
Speaker 1: change as we get too closer to free agency, but
Speaker 1: I do expect Aaron Jones to be gone. So at
Speaker 1: that point, I'm projecting AJ Dillon to be the starting
Speaker 1: running back. You drafted him in the second round for
Speaker 1: who knows what reason. You got to move forward with
Speaker 1: AJ Dillons. So I think he's probably gonna land for
Speaker 1: me as a high end like running back three, like
Speaker 1: maybe RB twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. As far
Speaker 1: as my Dynasty rankings, I think he'll be solid. But yet,
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm not going to go super
Speaker 1: crazy over AJ Dillon. Yeah, I don't have him too
Speaker 1: far off from you. I've got him right at about
Speaker 1: Dynasty RB twenty four, twenty three. And the reason why
Speaker 1: I have him a few ticks ahead of you is
Speaker 1: I feel like Matt Lafleur is going to show you everybody,
Speaker 1: or at least try to justify that second round NFL
Speaker 1: draft on AJ Dillon. I didn't have him very high
Speaker 1: at all coming out. I wasn't a big fan of him.
Speaker 1: He is a size speed monster, and if Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: is gone, and I believe he's going to be gone too,
Speaker 1: he is going to become the starting running back for
Speaker 1: a Green Bay team who's very, very good offensively. So
Speaker 1: the question is is he gonna catch enough passes to
Speaker 1: be relevant in PPR or half point PPR formats. He's
Speaker 1: a banger man. He's a big body banger. I'm still
Speaker 1: not a huge fan of him, but he's a starting
Speaker 1: running back. He's young in Dynasty, and he has the
Speaker 1: draft capitol, so I think we have to value him appropriately.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I'm not gonna go too crazy,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't a huge fan. I think I had
Speaker 1: him like RB nine or ten coming out last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the same range for me. All right, man,
Speaker 1: let's finish up. We said one hundred questions or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think we got through like seven. But there is
Speaker 1: one that I did want to end on here, especially
Speaker 1: in our first ever episode, and that is Alexander Coleman asking,
Speaker 1: I get Trevor Lawrence is the greatest quarterback prospect, but
Speaker 1: what are his strengths and what are his weaknesses? So
Speaker 1: I did want to talk about him here because Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence for me, I'm gonna get destroyed for this, but
Speaker 1: I do not think that Trevor Lawrence is the greatest
Speaker 1: quarterback prospect we've seen. I don't think that that I know. Man, Again,
Speaker 1: I said I'm gonna get destroyed. So I think in
Speaker 1: my grading system, Trevor Lawrence graded out actually significantly lower
Speaker 1: than Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow was the greatest
Speaker 1: college quarterback prospect that we've seen coming out since Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck and potentially even ever, you can't argue against his
Speaker 1: season that he put up his senior season with LSU
Speaker 1: and the receiving weapons he had. So Trevor Lawrence here
Speaker 1: as far as his strengths incredibly smart prospect, well built,
Speaker 1: well built between the ears. Like as far as his poise,
Speaker 1: his resume, what he's done winning the national championship as
Speaker 1: a true freshman, like, this is just the guy that
Speaker 1: you want to lead your franchise where you know you're
Speaker 1: going to get a very very solid and safe floor.
Speaker 1: As far as his accuracy in the short areas of
Speaker 1: the field, he lives and dies on his you know,
Speaker 1: his accuracy in the short areas right, His ability to
Speaker 1: hit receivers in stride on slam, it's out routes on
Speaker 1: you know, pop passes behind the line of scrimmage. Everything
Speaker 1: really really accurate and thrives. The system is a little
Speaker 1: bit it's very quarterback friendly. It is a one read system.
Speaker 1: It's get the ball out quick. You watch it all
Speaker 1: on his tape and it is balls out within two
Speaker 1: to three seconds, and he's getting it into his playmaker's hands,
Speaker 1: particularly Travis c tns. So get the ball out quick, right.
Speaker 1: The concerns that I have one is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a long delivery. That's less of a concern now
Speaker 1: in the NFL's game than it was, you know, back
Speaker 1: when we had the true statue quarterbacks, right, where if
Speaker 1: the pocket you're truly needing to navigate a very very
Speaker 1: small and tight pocket. The long delivery is a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a concern, where now the NFL is
Speaker 1: getting these quarterbacks out on the move, they're throwing on
Speaker 1: the run, everything like that. That's less of a concern,
Speaker 1: but it is something that I wanted to mention. As
Speaker 1: far as the other thing that I'm concerned about and
Speaker 1: at least wondering what the root causes is his arm
Speaker 1: strength downfield and his accuracy deep downfield. There I've watched
Speaker 1: eight nine games on Trevor Lawrence and at this point
Speaker 1: there are several instances where I see a college football
Speaker 1: cornerback being able to make a play on the ball.
Speaker 1: As far as it is not he's not leading his
Speaker 1: receivers in stride deep down field, it's tending to be underthrown,
Speaker 1: and so that is a concern of the question is
Speaker 1: is that an issue of true arm strength, because I
Speaker 1: do think that he has a very very solid arm.
Speaker 1: It's not on par with the Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: But yet at the same time, is it just because
Speaker 1: he has he's not as familiar with his receivers and
Speaker 1: how they're going to break out of his out of
Speaker 1: their routes and stuff like that. So those are the
Speaker 1: only two things. Again, those are very very nitpicking. Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a very very solid prospect. He's a safe prospect.
Speaker 1: He's still worth taking with the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: But yet I am not willing to say that Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence is the greatest college football prospect coming out that
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. I'm going to turn it over to you.
Speaker 1: Tear me apart. No, I'm not going to tear you apart.
Speaker 1: But you know what, we're gonna disagree here. We're gonna
Speaker 1: disagree on the first show last question to disagree because
Speaker 1: I do think he is the best quarterback prospect that
Speaker 1: we've seen, probably since Peyton Manning. And if you really
Speaker 1: look at what Peyton Manning did at Tennessee, I'd venture
Speaker 1: to say that there were quite a few quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: as prospects had a better looking profile than Peyton Manning. Now,
Speaker 1: Peyton man is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play.
Speaker 1: But I think part of the issue with Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: and this past season, which it was, it was a
Speaker 1: weird season for all college football players because of Kosher
Speaker 1: and you know, he did not have his you know,
Speaker 1: top playmaker coming back in justin Ross he had E J.
Speaker 1: Williams and Amari Rodgers, a five foot nine, two hundred
Speaker 1: and ten pound wide receiver, was this number one target.
Speaker 1: And despite you know, the upside down topsy turvy covid
Speaker 1: season that he had, I mean, he still had his
Speaker 1: best completion percentage of his career, still through for over
Speaker 1: thirty one hundred yards in ten games, which is insane.
Speaker 1: His yards per pass attempt increased in twenty twenty. It's
Speaker 1: to me, the issue with players like a Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: it's almost like we get fatigued. He was great from
Speaker 1: the moment he took over for Kelly Bryant in twenty
Speaker 1: eight He's middle school, That's what I mean. So when
Speaker 1: when And part of this is us right, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to this in later in later shows, but how
Speaker 1: you can capitalize on news and perceive value. But we
Speaker 1: have put Trevor Lawrence on this pedestals from twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and uh, you just sort of get fatigued, like, okay,
Speaker 1: another three thirty five hundred yards ho home, another three
Speaker 1: thousand yards ho home, and now you start to find
Speaker 1: all of the flaws in his game where I believe
Speaker 1: Kyle if he would have said I'm done playing after
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and I'll just wait to enter the draft,
Speaker 1: I think we'd be looking at it like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we couldn't wait till this guy came out. But it's
Speaker 1: I hear you. With some of the inaccuracies, I completely understand.
Speaker 1: I do think he gets a little confident in his
Speaker 1: arm and tries to do a little too much at times.
Speaker 1: But for me personally, what I do with all of
Speaker 1: these players I look on. I look and focus on
Speaker 1: the things that cannot be coached. There are certain things
Speaker 1: that he does that I believe can be coached, can
Speaker 1: be schemed at the next level. And I know that
Speaker 1: seems like a bad thing to talk about a quarterback
Speaker 1: schame or playing within a schame. All quarter all players
Speaker 1: are products of scheme to some degree. Right to some degree,
Speaker 1: you're a product of a scheme. I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: eight qualities that he possesses that a Mitchell Trubisky does
Speaker 1: not possess that a Jared Goff will never be able
Speaker 1: to get no matter how much film they study, and
Speaker 1: that is that is the IQ. But that the head,
Speaker 1: the brain, the quarterback processing. It is the athleticism. There's
Speaker 1: nothing sneaky about Trevor Lawrence. He's He's a crazy athlete.
Speaker 1: He can run outside the pocket, the accuracy, the arm strength.
Speaker 1: I just believe that if he fulfills his potential, if
Speaker 1: he fulfills that potential, will be looking at maybe not
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, but you're we're going to be looking at
Speaker 1: a top two three player in the NFL, A complete,
Speaker 1: franchise changing quarterback. And this is something that I want
Speaker 1: to say now, Trevor Lawrence is a floor razor. There's
Speaker 1: a difference between quarterbacks that just come in and kind
Speaker 1: of do their thing and somebody that comes in and
Speaker 1: completely elevates a team. Watch how much better the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars are with Trevor Lawrence at quarterback opposed to a
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, opposed to a Nick Foles. He's a flourish,
Speaker 1: raising quarterback. I think he's fantastic. But there are some
Speaker 1: weaknesses and you did point those out, and I have
Speaker 1: no disagreement with those weaknesses. I just think those are
Speaker 1: things that can be worked on and coached out of him,
Speaker 1: and his innate qualities that he brings to the table
Speaker 1: as a quarterback is something that you just don't find
Speaker 1: every day. And this is something that I want to
Speaker 1: say too. Like scouting in our perspective, scouting is completely subjective,
Speaker 1: and it really is like as much as you trying
Speaker 1: to take out bias and you try to take all
Speaker 1: these other it is subjective. It's based on what you
Speaker 1: like at the position. There are certain traits that I
Speaker 1: value at the running back position over others, and different
Speaker 1: talent evaluators do the same thing. I'm sure that the
Speaker 1: you know, something that you like at the running back
Speaker 1: position is not going to be the same thing that
Speaker 1: I value. Right, So scouting is subjective. And there's something
Speaker 1: that I walked away from watching Trevor Lawrence. When I
Speaker 1: did that, I said, I was like, I wonder if
Speaker 1: I went into it with the mindset of let's see
Speaker 1: if this guy is truly the best college football prospect,
Speaker 1: because that again we've put him on the pedestal, and
Speaker 1: so that is on my radar to go back and
Speaker 1: watch him again and try to eliminate that bias as
Speaker 1: much as I can. Again, it's probably always going to
Speaker 1: be there. But yeah, at the same time, I want
Speaker 1: to try to eliminate it as much as I can.
Speaker 1: I just want to say I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that, right, because if that's the
Speaker 1: pedestal we put him on, then that's the land. If
Speaker 1: you went into that film session, okay, I want to
Speaker 1: see the greatest quarterback prospect I've ever seen, and your
Speaker 1: opinion is probably valid. I did not walk away seeing that,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I appreciate what you're saying, and yes,
Speaker 1: go back and check it out again, but I don't
Speaker 1: think that you going into it with that lens was
Speaker 1: wrong man, because that's what you've been told. That's what
Speaker 1: we've been told. I think that Trevor Lawrence is still
Speaker 1: worth the number one overall pick. I still think that
Speaker 1: he is an incredibly talented and polished prospect coming out.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to immediately elevate and you said
Speaker 1: the floor racer. I think he's going to immediately elevate
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise if they do end up taking
Speaker 1: about number one overall. I still think he's worth the
Speaker 1: top five pick. Everything like that. I still think He's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. But as far as is either greatest
Speaker 1: college football prospect or quarterback that we've ever seen, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And I think that there is
Speaker 1: a closer gap between him and my number two quarterback
Speaker 1: prospect in this class, which is Trey Lance. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave it. We'll double back to that
Speaker 1: in another episode. That's going to do it for today's show. Ray,
Speaker 1: we did it, man, How did it feel? Should we
Speaker 1: keep doing this podcast? I think it deserves one more
Speaker 1: I think we could do it one more time. We'll
Speaker 1: see how that one goes. But no, it was. It
Speaker 1: was awesome, man, and I'm pretty sure the listeners are
Speaker 1: going to appreciate it. Man. This was This was a
Speaker 1: good time, Kyle, Yeah, for sure. As a reminder, guys,
Speaker 1: we are aiming for one to two episodes per week.
Speaker 1: The offseason is going to be a little bit unpredictable.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that right up front. So as
Speaker 1: far as the scheduling because of vacation time for each
Speaker 1: of us, or kids, or work schedules all that. So,
Speaker 1: but we're going to do our best to make sure
Speaker 1: that you hear from us frequently. Rate anything else before
Speaker 1: we get out of here. No, just stay locked in. Man,
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna keep you. We're gonna keep you covered.
Speaker 1: I promise you that. I know there was a lot
Speaker 1: of questions, and you guys have a ton of rookie
Speaker 1: question and team building strategy sessions. We are going to
Speaker 1: hit it all. We love Dynasty. We truly, truly believe
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Speaker 1: Absolutely for Ray Garvin, I'm Kylie Eats and we'll see
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