Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Scott Bogman. Follow me on the Twitter
Speaker 1: at Bogman Sports. As always, I am joined by Pat
Speaker 1: Fitzmorris at fits Underscore FF on the Twitter Machine Fitsie.
Speaker 2: What's going on man? How you doing doing?
Speaker 3: Wild Boggs looking forward to you. Know how, I have
Speaker 3: a wide receiver fetish, So I'm really excited about today's
Speaker 3: show when we're going to talk about wide receiver rankings
Speaker 3: and we have a great guest to do it.
Speaker 1: With, Yes, Alfredo Brown at the pretend GM of Football Guys. Alfredo,
Speaker 1: first time having you on the show. Happy to have
Speaker 1: you here and happy to talk some wide receivers. This
Speaker 1: is going to be a fun one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited to be here. I did not think
Speaker 4: that thirty seconds into the show I'd be hearing about
Speaker 4: Pat's fetishes, but here we are. I'm excited to get
Speaker 4: into the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: That's what we're all about. We're all about fetishes on
Speaker 1: this show. No, obviously, we are about the wide receiver talk.
Speaker 1: We've done quarterbacks and running backs last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: so what we're going to do is we're going to
Speaker 1: take a look at the top thirty six ranked wide
Speaker 1: receivers on Fantasy pros ECR and see how we compare
Speaker 1: to not just against CCR, but also raking against each other.
Speaker 1: And I was so jazzed up to have these big
Speaker 1: arguments and debates about the wide receivers and try to
Speaker 1: explain my position on some of them. And when we
Speaker 1: did the top thirty six in ECR and Alfred, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is not your favorite stat, but you were thirty
Speaker 1: six for thirty six. Your top thirty six wide receivers
Speaker 1: were the same thirty six ranked in ECR on Fantasy pros.
Speaker 1: Fitz and I are both thirty four of thirty six,
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe we had these guys ranked different, But
Speaker 1: in terms of tears, we're kind of all the same.
Speaker 1: So we might be kind of battling into the wind
Speaker 1: a little bit here.
Speaker 2: What what.
Speaker 1: Are the immediate feelings when you hear your thirty six
Speaker 1: for thirty six? Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I cannot be contained, right, as
Speaker 4: I told you before the show, I'm the bad boy
Speaker 4: of Dynasty football courts. You can't you can't, you know,
Speaker 4: stop me from coloring outside the lines here. But Honestly, man,
Speaker 4: I think it's crazy. What I was telling you before
Speaker 4: is that dynasty theory in the way people build their
Speaker 4: rosters is just always so different. I'm shocked that we,
Speaker 4: as the three of us, have so many players all
Speaker 4: within the same ECR. That's just nuts to me, to
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fits when you see that, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: because there seems to be different prevailing opinions specifically on
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You know, sure there's a little difference in
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and running backs, but I feel like we're closer
Speaker 1: in those. But thirty four of thirty six and thirty
Speaker 1: six of thirty six for all three of us seems
Speaker 1: almost like an impossibility.
Speaker 3: It does. But like, I don't want listeners to think
Speaker 3: this is going to be a boring show where, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll just agree with everything each other says, because they're
Speaker 3: definitely with some individual players, there are some wide ranges
Speaker 3: of opinions. So we are going to drill down on
Speaker 3: some of those and hopefully argue a little because that's
Speaker 3: always fun.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got plenty that you know that we
Speaker 1: have ranked outside of the top twelve that that are
Speaker 1: inside and and you know, I'm way different. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, like Alfredo said, just in dynasty theory and
Speaker 1: the way you do things, everyone's different. I have lost
Speaker 1: so much money investing into early dynasty leagues and then
Speaker 1: not getting to play it out. So I want to
Speaker 1: win quick, so I do you know, three year window
Speaker 1: after that I'll rebuild. So my rankings are way different.
Speaker 1: So we are definitely going to fight a bunch. But
Speaker 1: I was just surprised to see that, you know, three
Speaker 1: different minds, we all probably do things a little bit different.
Speaker 1: But wide receiver, the good wide receivers are the good
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and we know that it's just where you
Speaker 1: have them ranked inside the top thirty six. So what
Speaker 1: do you guys say, should we jump into the wide
Speaker 1: receiver number ones to start?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Can I? Can? I first say? What a pass
Speaker 3: away to our bogs that you're playing under the assumption
Speaker 3: that all your dynasty teams are going to fold in
Speaker 3: the first all your leagues are going to fold in
Speaker 3: the first three years, whereas you know, I'm altruistic and
Speaker 3: think that I'm going to be willing my dynasty teams
Speaker 3: to my son on my deathbed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you call it. You call it pessimistic. I call
Speaker 1: it experienced, is what I call it, you know. And look,
Speaker 1: you know, dynasty leagues with industry people are different, like
Speaker 1: because you know that team is going to exist whether
Speaker 1: you have it or not for a while. But I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the listeners, you know, the listeners and getting
Speaker 1: the dynasty leagues together.
Speaker 2: It's just a little tough for that's all. You know.
Speaker 1: If I if I know that my league is going
Speaker 1: to last a little bit longer, you know, because it's
Speaker 1: people that I played with now for twenty years, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll lean a little more towards, you know, going after
Speaker 1: some longer term project projects and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: also my strategy will not forbid me from taking long term,
Speaker 1: long term projects and that type of stuff. But in
Speaker 1: most cases, I have a hard time passing up Stephan
Speaker 1: Diggs and Devonte Adams for guys that maybe we'll get
Speaker 1: there someday because I know what those guys are. So,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a little different for everyone. But
Speaker 1: we are about to dive in to the wide receiver ones.
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Speaker 1: jump into wide receiver number ones here and number one
Speaker 1: down to twelve. Is this order number one Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: consensus number two, Jamar Chase, consensus number three, Ceede Lamb consensus.
Speaker 1: Those are your top three for ECR and for all
Speaker 1: of us in that order, no change there. Moving down
Speaker 1: to four. Is aj Brown not consensus. Garrett Wilson is five,
Speaker 1: Jaln Waddle is six, Amana Saint Brown is seven, chrys
Speaker 1: Olave at eight, Tyreek Hill at nine, Stefan Diggs at ten,
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith at eleven, and t Higgins at number twelve.
Speaker 1: A couple notes on these top ones, and let's just
Speaker 1: go ahead and start with those top three. We all
Speaker 1: have the same top three, Alfredo, is there any are
Speaker 1: you upset if you see Jamar Chase ranked ahead of
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson or if you see Ceedee Lamb ahead of
Speaker 1: either one one of those guys. Is that a crazy
Speaker 1: take if someone does that, or is it just hey, look,
Speaker 1: we know we got in these three guys. This is
Speaker 1: the top tier. However you change them whatever, but these
Speaker 1: are our top three guys if.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the tier. Yes, those three guys should
Speaker 4: all be in that tier, right, I mean, honestly, there's
Speaker 4: actually there's a pretty good argument he made that it's
Speaker 4: just Jefferson and Chase in their own shir alone, or
Speaker 4: even just Jefferson in his own tier. So I don't
Speaker 4: think it's it's too crazy to have them all in
Speaker 4: the same tier. But I think you kind of have
Speaker 4: to stay strong with Justin Jefferson being there at one. Really,
Speaker 4: the only argument I've heard for putting Jamar Chase over
Speaker 4: him is people believing that there's going to be an
Speaker 4: even greater touchdown REGRESSI where He's going to continue to
Speaker 4: get even more and more, and Justin Jefferson might slow
Speaker 4: down with Jordan Addison, Whereas I mean, when you have
Speaker 4: to put that many ifs into how you're valuing a player,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, what else does Justin Jefferson have
Speaker 4: to do to be considered the number one wide receiver
Speaker 4: in Dynasty at just twenty four years old. So I'm
Speaker 4: pretty comfortable with the way it is. I don't think
Speaker 4: Cede Lambs should be necessarily in this same grouping as
Speaker 4: those two top guys.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I think it is a tier of two of Jefferson
Speaker 1: and Chase and then at Ceedee Lamb in his own tier,
Speaker 1: and then kind of everybody else. It kind of opens
Speaker 1: up after number three fits. Is it the same way
Speaker 1: for you in that regard? Would it be you know, Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Chase Lamb or do you see an argument of Lamb
Speaker 1: maybe going into that tier.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's the big two. And like, I
Speaker 3: don't have an issue with anyone who wants to put
Speaker 3: Chase ahead of Jefferson. He does have a better quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no denying Joe Burrows a better QB
Speaker 3: than Kirk Cousins. And like maybe T Higgins disappears after
Speaker 3: this coming season and then you know, the targets spike
Speaker 3: even a little bit higher for Jamar Chase. But you know,
Speaker 3: I have Jefferson, I had a Chase. But I do
Speaker 3: consider it basically neck and neck photo finish.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's probably the way
Speaker 1: it is now. We did all have a different number four.
Speaker 1: But I think Alfredo, you know, you told me there
Speaker 1: was something with the rank so you you actually have
Speaker 1: a j Brown at four, right, and not a monor
Speaker 1: Saint Brown?
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean like when you when you kind of fiddle
Speaker 4: it around, so our rankings kind of adjust on our
Speaker 4: website based on the projections for the entire team, that's there,
Speaker 4: so when you switch from half PPR to PPR. But
Speaker 4: I see, but you know what, as I started to
Speaker 4: look into it, bogs Like initially, what it has here
Speaker 4: in the rankings is a Monora Saint Brown at wide
Speaker 4: receiver four. And the more I started to dive into it,
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I don't hate that.
Speaker 4: I don't hate that. At first, I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I can't put that. And it was just like, let
Speaker 4: me dive into this a bit more, and I loved it.
Speaker 4: I really did. I mean, you talk about how the
Speaker 4: theory of dynasty right is so different from from one
Speaker 4: person to the next, and I'm a little bit more
Speaker 4: optimistic than you. I don't think that the leagues are
Speaker 4: always just gonna, you know, like fizzle out like that.
Speaker 4: So I really want to get a lot of those
Speaker 4: safe players when I'm doing, you know, early on in
Speaker 4: my roster build, and a Mona Saint Brown has just
Speaker 4: been that guy because of the target volume that he gets.
Speaker 4: You you look back at last year and you know,
Speaker 4: even going back to twenty twenty one his games, he
Speaker 4: had eight or more targets in eighty six percent of
Speaker 4: his games since week thirteen, and then ten or more
Speaker 4: targets and sixty four percent of his game since week
Speaker 4: thirteen of last season. So it's a guy that you
Speaker 4: don't look at a lot of these wide receivers and
Speaker 4: just see automatic target volume, right, And I've got him
Speaker 4: kind of in that same area as AJ Brown Jalen Waddle,
Speaker 4: and I don't think that we know for sure what
Speaker 4: those guys really are yet. I know that they're both playmakers.
Speaker 4: Jalen Wattle has shown us two different versions of himself
Speaker 4: from year one to year two, and as a lifelong
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins fan, I still don't know what he is.
Speaker 4: Year one he was heavily. He was a big volume guy,
Speaker 4: and the year two he was a hig efficiency guy.
Speaker 4: AJ Brown I looked like the biggest idiot in the
Speaker 4: world last offseason saying that you know, I'm I'm selling
Speaker 4: AJ Brown at his current ADP, YadA, YadA, YadA, because
Speaker 4: you know he's going to have to have career highs
Speaker 4: in targets and catches and yards and touchdowns and stay
Speaker 4: healthy for all seventeen games. And then he went and
Speaker 4: did that and just made me look foolish. So, man,
Speaker 4: you can almost make the argument that he might be
Speaker 4: at his production peak and on the way down. So
Speaker 4: I think it kind of goes back to that dynasty
Speaker 4: game theory. How are you building that roster? I like
Speaker 4: to stick with the safe guys and a minor Saint Brown.
Speaker 4: He's got that skill set that ages well. He's a
Speaker 4: good route runner. He's not one of those guys that's
Speaker 4: gonna have to rely on speed or size. He's just
Speaker 4: going to continuously be the high volume guy. That's why
Speaker 4: I sort of lean in that direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look that's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, higher than ECR, and a Honor Saint
Speaker 1: Brown is ECR seven. I have him at six. Fits
Speaker 1: you're right on ECR for a Honor Saint Brown, but
Speaker 1: you have a J. Brown at number four? Would he
Speaker 1: would you put him in the same tier as Lamb?
Speaker 1: Or would you say Lamb is his own tier? And
Speaker 1: then you go down to four, five, and six and
Speaker 1: whoever else.
Speaker 3: I would say he would be in the same tier
Speaker 3: with Lamb, you know, like a clear cut. I don't
Speaker 3: really debate those guys too much, but I do think
Speaker 3: they're pretty close. And then for me, it's Wattle, Wilson
Speaker 3: and Saint Brown in the next time. And like, I
Speaker 3: don't have any issue with you know where Alfredo has
Speaker 3: Saint Brown. But I guess the reason I like Waddle
Speaker 3: a little more than Wilson and Saint Brown was. It
Speaker 3: gets to what Alfredo was just talking about. With the
Speaker 3: two variations we've seen of Jalen Wattle in his first
Speaker 3: two years in the league. I love that he's been versatile,
Speaker 3: that he almost played sort of that Jarvis Landry early
Speaker 3: career Jarvis Landry role in his rookie year as a
Speaker 3: short area receiver, heavy target guy. Then Tyreek Hill shows up,
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniels stretches the passing game and he's like this
Speaker 3: vertical home run guy. And like the arrival of Tyreek
Speaker 3: didn't didn't put a dent in his production at all.
Speaker 3: So I love that he has thrived under two very
Speaker 3: different usage patterns. I guess you know, the difference in
Speaker 3: his average depth of target was pretty extreme from year
Speaker 3: to year. So I think he's just to be sort
Speaker 3: of immune to changes in his ecosystem and just thrive
Speaker 3: no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he could, Jayalen Wattle can do it all.
Speaker 1: I really do like him, and he is definitely to me,
Speaker 1: he's definitely the guy he was last year because that's
Speaker 1: also what he was at Alabama. But I was so
Speaker 1: impressed with what he did his rookie season as like
Speaker 1: that number one target getter, you know, the taking those
Speaker 1: balls in the short area and then doing damage with
Speaker 1: them as well, like this guy could do it all.
Speaker 1: So I love Jalen Wattle. I am with both you
Speaker 1: guys in terms of that. Now, look there's a guy
Speaker 1: that we're all below ecr On, and it kind of
Speaker 1: makes me a little queasy. I think mine can be
Speaker 1: explained away a little bit better just because I am
Speaker 1: taking Tyreek Hills my four I'm working in that shorter window.
Speaker 1: So if I get two more years out of guys
Speaker 1: like Digs and cup and Atoms and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: is that is in my mindset of wide receivers and
Speaker 1: really all positions because I work in that shorter window. Right,
Speaker 1: I trust him myself enough. I watch enough college football
Speaker 1: and things like that to know I feel like I
Speaker 1: can rebuild my team after that third fourth season when
Speaker 1: my guys do start to kind of come back down
Speaker 1: to earth or age out or that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So for me, but we're all below on Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 1: and I am the lowest. I have him at ten's
Speaker 1: currently he's easy.
Speaker 2: R is five.
Speaker 1: Alfredo, you have him at seven, Pat you have him
Speaker 1: at six. So I think the question, the hyperbolic question here, Alfredo,
Speaker 1: is why do you hate Garrett Wilson so much?
Speaker 2: What did he go to you so?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: You know what, I think that so much of what
Speaker 4: we look at in this offseason, and it was actually
Speaker 4: kind of reassuring to see that we're all a little
Speaker 4: bit lower because it made me feel like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 4: I'm not that crazy. Is I think there's a lot
Speaker 4: of that offensive rookie of the year cologne on Garrett
Speaker 4: Wilson right now when there were a lot of extenuating
Speaker 4: circumstances that happen, you know, Brees Hall getting hurt and
Speaker 4: Kenn Walker kind of slowing down towards the end of
Speaker 4: the season, and Chris Alavi is slowing down at the
Speaker 4: end of the season. And what worries me the most
Speaker 4: ut Garrett Wilson going forward is we kind of touched
Speaker 4: on this earlier with some of these other wide receivers
Speaker 4: that simply just don't know the identity of this Jets offense.
Speaker 4: They're going from I don't know what they were last
Speaker 4: year to now Aaron Rodgers, who has a notoriously slow
Speaker 4: pace of play. So one they're gonna have less plays,
Speaker 4: less offensive snaps, a very good defense that could keep
Speaker 4: the Jets offense slow, and wanted to keep the ball
Speaker 4: away from some of their division opponents, the Bills and
Speaker 4: Dolphins with high powered offenses. So they've got this loaded
Speaker 4: backfield right that has a ton of young guys and
Speaker 4: Breese Hall. Is he a ban of Canada? They may
Speaker 4: even add Dalvin Cook. There's a rumor out there, right,
Speaker 4: and Wilson was great as a rookie, Like, I'm not
Speaker 4: arguing that or you know his talent at all. He's
Speaker 4: super talented, and you know, having him one or two
Speaker 4: spots lower the ECR is not crazy. But there's a
Speaker 4: split that I'm still curious to see because a lot
Speaker 4: of people there was a lot made out of how
Speaker 4: much better Garrett Wilson was with backup quarterbacks instead of
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson, But there was something else that through those
Speaker 4: first seven weeks of the season when Breece Hall was active,
Speaker 4: that offense was very different, and Garrett Wilson scored just
Speaker 4: ten point two PPR points per game. He was the
Speaker 4: wide receiver forty six on a points game basis for
Speaker 4: those first seven weeks, creanted small sample size, different sampling
Speaker 4: sizes of quarterbacks with Joe Flacco and Zach Wilson for
Speaker 4: seven games of his career. But I think we're kind
Speaker 4: of like brushing those things aside because we're like we
Speaker 4: was offensive Rookie of the Year and that means he's
Speaker 4: really good.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 4: But I think there needs to be a little bit
Speaker 4: more context than a little more nuanced there when when
Speaker 4: kind of looking at Garrett Wilson's long term dynasty value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fitzy, it's hard to see any downside to Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 1: even with what what al Franio just said, Like we
Speaker 1: know they're gonna pass more because they have Aaron Rodgers, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that is really one of probably the
Speaker 1: biggest piece to me that it has raised his ECRs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Aaron Rodgers is only there for a couple
Speaker 1: of seasons and if they win in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: this year, maybe he just walks off, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, So it could just be a year or
Speaker 1: two of this good QB. But I think that is
Speaker 1: also pushing him way up even in dynasty value, even
Speaker 1: though Aaron Rodgers is my age, which is not great,
Speaker 1: you know, for an NFL player, So what is it
Speaker 1: about Garrett Wilson that put you just slightly below youcr I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I hope it's not the Aaron Rodgers thing that's
Speaker 3: pushing him up. I hope people like him because he's
Speaker 3: young and good, because I worry that with Aaron Rodgers there,
Speaker 3: and this Jets defense is one of the three, four
Speaker 3: five best defenses in the NFL. We know that, and
Speaker 3: as Elfredo mentioned, Rogers likes to play slow. I mean,
Speaker 3: when Rogers and Nathaniel Hackett were together in Green Bay,
Speaker 3: they were consistently one of the slowest paced offenses in
Speaker 3: the NFL. So you have got a team that's going
Speaker 3: to play to slow pace offensively, and it's not going
Speaker 3: to be involved in a lot of shootouts because their
Speaker 3: defense is so good. So I don't know what that
Speaker 3: pass volume is going to look like, or that Rodgers
Speaker 3: is necessarily going to throw more than the collective Jets
Speaker 3: QBS did the bizarre amalgam of Zach Wilson, Joe Flacco,
Speaker 3: and Mike White last year. I don't know that they're
Speaker 3: going to throw that much more in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll see, we'll see what happens with
Speaker 1: the Jets. But Garret Wilson is an interesting one, and look,
Speaker 1: we all still have him as a wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: He's great. We're just a little bit below the consensus.
Speaker 1: And I looked, I don't think that any of us
Speaker 1: are high manner low man on any player. So in
Speaker 1: terms of like the actual personal rankings, which which is
Speaker 1: a good place to be? I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of time you don't want to be high
Speaker 1: manner or lowman.
Speaker 2: I maybe high.
Speaker 1: Man on Chris Godwin, who I is not in this range,
Speaker 1: but I have him inside my wide receiver ones. I
Speaker 1: have Cup, Metcalf and Godwin. Missing from Pat's wide receiver
Speaker 1: ones are London and Cup and then Alfredo. I know
Speaker 1: you love this stat so much. I'll just say it again.
Speaker 1: Twelve for twelve on wide receiver ones. How does that
Speaker 1: make you feel?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Boy, it makes me feel dangerous.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see a big update on Alfredo's port after
Speaker 1: this episode, I feel like, But yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 1: it's anything you want to say about London a Cup
Speaker 1: before we move to the wide receiver twos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I do have London and wide receiver one range.
Speaker 3: Just love that he commanded such an enormous target share
Speaker 3: his rookie year. Maybe it dips a little with a
Speaker 3: healthy Pits, but still it's it's Pits in London who
Speaker 3: are going to dominate targets for the Falcons. And you know,
Speaker 3: like I know, for now they've got a run heavy
Speaker 3: offense and a shaky QB situation, but it will not
Speaker 3: be that way forever more for Drake London, who also
Speaker 3: came to the league at a very young age. So like,
Speaker 3: I think he's got a long runway and we've already
Speaker 3: seen him, you know, start the liftoff process. Very encouraging
Speaker 3: rookie year for him, and I think it only gets better. Bugs.
Speaker 3: But you should uh oh, go ahead. I was just
Speaker 3: gonna invite you to, you know, or Alfredo and I
Speaker 3: are in lockstep with a lave at wide receiver eight.
Speaker 3: You've got him a wide receiver sixteen. What are your
Speaker 3: reservations there?
Speaker 1: Well, you know a little bit of the slowdown from
Speaker 1: last season, and he's a high a DOC guy. For me,
Speaker 1: I prefer guys not with so much lower a dot.
Speaker 1: That's not good. You want the higher a doc guys, right,
Speaker 1: But I do like a guy that can take a
Speaker 1: ball short and run with it. And uh you know,
Speaker 1: I just have a couple guys over him in that capacity.
Speaker 1: You know, he was six and a dot. We was
Speaker 1: six in yards per route run, which is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite stats. And this is why I have Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill so high. Tyreek Hill just has he has a
Speaker 1: tool that is unteachable. His speed is unteachable. You cannot
Speaker 1: no one's catching up to him in speed. That's why
Speaker 1: I have him at four, even though he is long
Speaker 1: in the tooth, a little bit older. He has that
Speaker 1: unteachable skill. Now, when that unteachable skill goes sometimes there
Speaker 1: is a rapid decline on those guys. But I think
Speaker 1: Tyreek is one of those guys that's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Uh So I just, you know, not quite my Derek Henry.
Speaker 2: Take.
Speaker 1: I know I'm higher on Derek Henry than everybody else
Speaker 1: because I think he's just a complete freaking nature and
Speaker 1: will last longer than most people think and most running
Speaker 1: backs do because he's enormous. But in terms of OLAVE
Speaker 1: last year he's twentieth in total points, he was twentieth
Speaker 1: in average points. That's a wide receiver too, and I
Speaker 1: have him well four spots ahead of that, and targets
Speaker 1: he was twentieth. In receptions he was twenty seventh, and
Speaker 1: yards he was eighteenth, and touchdowns he only had four.
Speaker 2: He was forty second. That should get better.
Speaker 1: But he's also not a contested catch guy, seventy second
Speaker 1: overall among players with fifty targets in contested catches at
Speaker 1: thirty three point three percent. So you know, he's a
Speaker 1: very good wide receiver, but he's not a complete wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And I feel like we're ranking him as that already.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm a little bit lower on Olave.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think i'm low man on him, either,
Speaker 1: but I am lower. I know I'm in the bottom
Speaker 1: third of Chris Olave, and I'll stay there. Like, look,
Speaker 1: obviously he can change that for me next year, but
Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna stick to the same. So
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. But are we ready to
Speaker 1: go to the wide receiver twos? Gentlemen, let's see you
Speaker 1: all right? Here we go Wide receiver twos. Thirteen is
Speaker 1: Drake London, fourteen is Cooper Cup fifteen, DK Metcalf sixteen,
Speaker 1: Davante seventeen, jsn Our first rookie eighteen, Chris Godwin nineteen,
Speaker 1: DJ Moore twenty, Christian Watson twenty one, Michael Pittman, Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy twenty two, Deebo twenty three, and another rookie, Jordan
Speaker 1: Addison finish finishes this range off, and we have the
Speaker 1: rainbow rank on four players where we have one person
Speaker 1: above ECR, one person at ECR, and one person below ECR,
Speaker 1: and that is Metcalf Davante Adams or excuse me three
Speaker 1: or No. Four Drake London DK Metcalf Davante Adams in
Speaker 1: DJ more. So let's just start with the first one
Speaker 1: there fits, and I'll go to you on this one
Speaker 1: because you are high man on Drake London. You have
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver one. You haven't ten, I
Speaker 1: haven't nineteen. Alfredo has him exactly at ECR. He is
Speaker 1: one of a rainbow guys here. So what do you
Speaker 1: think about Drake London? What makes him a wide receiver
Speaker 1: one in your eyes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll let you guys go with this. But it
Speaker 3: was his target earning ability, you know, as I just
Speaker 3: mentioned why he's in my wide receiver one range, and
Speaker 3: like I love the size and I do think as
Speaker 3: I noted before, like the situation will not be like this.
Speaker 3: They're not going to be run heavy with a bad
Speaker 3: QB situation for the long haul. So like I'm I'm
Speaker 3: this is definitely a future bet. Like I'm not betting
Speaker 3: on Drake London to finish in side wide receiver one
Speaker 3: range for twenty twenty three, but for the future, Like,
Speaker 3: I love him as a dynasty asset long term, I
Speaker 3: think he's going to be fabulous.
Speaker 2: Alfred, are your thoughts on London?
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I really like London and I wanted
Speaker 4: to be able to put him in that wide receiver
Speaker 4: at one range, and that's kind of why I just
Speaker 4: put him one spot down. There's it's so much of
Speaker 4: it lends to what Pat was talking about. It's that
Speaker 4: ability to command targets. And I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people are gonna say, oh, Kyle Pitt's gonna come back.
Speaker 4: That's going to change it. There's a really interesting study
Speaker 4: that was done by J. J. Zacher Reeson, who's you know,
Speaker 4: one of my friends. He's been on my show and
Speaker 4: I love that when I when I heard this from him.
Speaker 4: So this is where Drake London ranks amongst rookie wide
Speaker 4: receivers with fifty plus target since twenty eleven third and
Speaker 4: targets targets per route run second in target share per
Speaker 4: game only Odell Beckham, rookie Odell Beckham was higher fifth
Speaker 4: and yards per team pass attempt and that puts him
Speaker 4: alongside Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, AJ Brown and Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 4: That is pretty elite company to be around when we're
Speaker 4: talking about three of those guys are essentially in the
Speaker 4: ECR Top four for Dynasty, and Odell Beckham had injuries
Speaker 4: derail everything. So yeah, I mean there is just there's
Speaker 4: so many of those peripheral numbers and metrics that just
Speaker 4: lend so well to see future success for Drake London.
Speaker 4: The only thing that worries me is what's that quarterback
Speaker 4: situation going to be like for the next couple of
Speaker 4: years and can he still maintain high production regardless of
Speaker 4: who's under center.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my main thing is the offense and how
Speaker 1: many targets are going to be there for him?
Speaker 2: He should be.
Speaker 1: You know, if you stuck this guy in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: I mean, good lord, he's top five probably.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But they not only did they run more than any
Speaker 1: of the team. Last year, they invested in the number
Speaker 1: one running back in the draft, so it looks like
Speaker 1: this is going to be just a run heavy team.
Speaker 1: So I kind of he he could be the number one,
Speaker 1: but Kyle Pitts could also be the number one. I
Speaker 1: also question, like, if Desmond Ridder has like a league
Speaker 1: average season, are we rolling with Ridder? Because then maybe
Speaker 1: the Falcons aren't in a position to get one of
Speaker 1: those good qbs. And is this how how long is
Speaker 1: London going to have to play with below average QB
Speaker 1: play behind him? I think is a big question for
Speaker 1: me as well, which is why I'm lower on London overall,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of all my window stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: is that I have legit concerns about this offense moving forward, Alfredo,
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about either one of the
Speaker 1: other guys, Demonte Adams or DJ Moore before we move
Speaker 1: on metcalf Even.
Speaker 4: DJ Moore I think is the interesting one because I
Speaker 4: feel like that one has the widest range of opinions.
Speaker 4: We have seen this now happen. It's almost like a
Speaker 4: blueprint that we're seeing for the NFL and fantasy football
Speaker 4: in general, where you know, we see Josh Allen get
Speaker 4: himself Stefan Diggs. Now we see Jalen Hurtz get himself
Speaker 4: a J. Brown, And now I think we kind of
Speaker 4: all want to just fit the square peg in the
Speaker 4: round hole and say, like Justin Field's got DJ Moore,
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen. And I think we're hoping for it right,
Speaker 4: like it makes for better football. It would, Man, that
Speaker 4: would be crazy. If we get a three for three
Speaker 4: right where we get a quarterback then just dramatically, dramatically
Speaker 4: improves on just the passing accuracy. A team that sort
Speaker 4: of changes the full to more of a passing volume,
Speaker 4: the efficiency would kind of have to be off the
Speaker 4: charts for DJ Moore. And in the past that's not
Speaker 4: always what it was. It wasn't touchdowns, it was volume.
Speaker 4: So I think there's just there's that's gonna be the
Speaker 4: most interesting one to watch for me. That's why I
Speaker 4: don't have a super strong opinion on DJ Moore, because
Speaker 4: these are intangible things that we can't really project. We
Speaker 4: are hoping that a player takes the leap and that
Speaker 4: player is Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's too much gray area for DJ Moore
Speaker 1: for me to rank him a head of ECR here
Speaker 1: fits and what is your opinion on him? Because for me,
Speaker 1: it's too many little things stack up. It's the you know,
Speaker 1: what's this offense look like? Is Justin Field's going to
Speaker 1: take the next step? How long do we stick with
Speaker 1: Justin Fields if he doesn't take the next step? So
Speaker 1: long term, I just kind of find him on shaky ground,
Speaker 1: I guess would be the way to describe DJ Moore.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Fields is going to take the next step.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty confident in that. And I don't think the
Speaker 3: Bears are going to be so rediculously run heavy as
Speaker 3: they weren't twenty twenty two when they ran like fifty
Speaker 3: seven percent of the time. And you know, DJ Moore
Speaker 3: had three straight eleven hundred yard receiving seasons with the
Speaker 3: Panthers with bad QB play most of that with Sam Darnold,
Speaker 3: and you know it took Baker Mayfield to actually destroy
Speaker 3: DJ Moore's production. So yeah, I mean, I think this
Speaker 3: offense is going to be I know the Bears will
Speaker 3: be run heavier than average, but I don't think they
Speaker 3: will be you know, like nineteen fifties NFL run heavy
Speaker 3: like they were last year. So like Moore is clearly
Speaker 3: the alpha, and like we know how he wins. He is,
Speaker 3: he is special after the catch, So like I feel,
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about Moore's career going forward. Like
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still young, and he's already booked three
Speaker 3: eleven hundred yard seasons, So like, this guy's already done it,
Speaker 3: and I still think his best season is ahead of him.
Speaker 1: I just hope that the I hope the Bears don't
Speaker 1: step into this running QB thing like the Ravens did
Speaker 1: for Lamar where it's just Lamar and Mark Andrews and
Speaker 1: like nobody else running back. You know, Dobbins was good.
Speaker 1: I just hope they don't like totally adjust there. But
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Speaker 1: on in the wide receiver twos here, let me let
Speaker 1: me write my battle here for Chris Godwin, right because
Speaker 1: I have him inside as a wide receiver one. You
Speaker 1: guys both have him as a lower end wide receiver two.
Speaker 1: And here's my thing with Chris Godwin. It's the last
Speaker 1: three previous years. You know, he was injured a little bit.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, he was ninth
Speaker 1: in points per game, fifteenth in total wide receiver one
Speaker 1: on average. In twenty nineteen he hit his peak. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll hit this again, but second in
Speaker 1: points per game, second in total and yes these were
Speaker 1: with much better quarterbacks than Baker Mayfield. And I completely
Speaker 1: understand that this offense is going to change. This whole
Speaker 1: team is going to change without the goat there, whether
Speaker 1: it's Baker or it's Kyle Trask throwing the ball. But
Speaker 1: this is yet another guy that is you know, he
Speaker 1: can take those shallow crossers and make something out of him.
Speaker 1: He is a big, big, create after the catch guy.
Speaker 1: He's a big yak player. And so to me, you
Speaker 1: don't rely You're not relying on Tom Brady's pinpoint accuracy
Speaker 1: throwing deep balls to him all the time. This guy
Speaker 1: that's going to catch the ball short and go with it.
Speaker 1: So I think if you're looking for Baker Mayfield to
Speaker 1: make a throw, there's gonna be a lot of little
Speaker 1: short dumps or Kyle Trask to Chris Godwin. You know
Speaker 1: they don't have a great tight end running back situations. Question,
Speaker 1: but Rashad White could have a lot of those receptions
Speaker 1: as well. But I just think we've seen Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: do it in the past. He's moved away from this
Speaker 1: injury and seems to be getting better. Yes, the quarterback
Speaker 1: takes a step back, but this is still a guy
Speaker 1: that is a very very good wide receiver that creates
Speaker 1: by himself, regardless of the QB situation. And I just
Speaker 1: I think he's still very very good and has a
Speaker 1: lot of meat left on the bone there. I know
Speaker 1: people ain't when I say that, but I love saying it.
Speaker 1: So Alfredo, your thoughts on Chris Godwin, Man, I like the.
Speaker 4: Player, like I really do. I'm just having a very
Speaker 4: hard time with Buccaneers players in general because I feel
Speaker 4: like you can't really project a whole lot, you have
Speaker 4: to throw out everything almost because it was so manipulated
Speaker 4: by Tom Brady. That's why I struggle with Rashad White
Speaker 4: and seeing him get you know, the same sort of
Speaker 4: receiving share that he was before. Mike Evans has been
Speaker 4: like kind of trending downward two. So I mean, if
Speaker 4: there is someone that I think can come out of
Speaker 4: this offense and still be productive for Fantasy for the
Speaker 4: next few years, it's Chris Godwin. But man, things could
Speaker 4: get very, very bad in Tampa really quickly. And I
Speaker 4: don't think that's hyperbole either. Like we have seen that
Speaker 4: almost at every single stop now where Baker has been
Speaker 4: for the last couple of years. It's just gone from
Speaker 4: bad to worse. And I think we had like a
Speaker 4: moment we like one game there where he was in
Speaker 4: the rams, We're like, maybe he stays because he's doing
Speaker 4: pretty well, and then it's just like it kind of
Speaker 4: came crashing down pretty quickly. So, man, if we're getting
Speaker 4: to the point where it's Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask
Speaker 4: throughout the entire season. I have a hard time really
Speaker 4: having a lot of faith in Godwin. And then you
Speaker 4: have to ask, are they starting over? Are they tearing
Speaker 4: this down to the studs and having to start with
Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback. If it's Caleb Williams, then all the
Speaker 4: arrows start to point a little bit differently. But for now, man,
Speaker 4: it's just so hard to see him as more than
Speaker 4: just sort of a low end wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fits your thoughts on on Chris Godwin, because I look,
Speaker 1: these are are all appropriate takes, and this is what
Speaker 1: we talk about. You know, everybody wants black and white answers,
Speaker 1: but there's gray area on every player and that's kind
Speaker 1: of what were That's where we're at with a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys where we have the big differences in
Speaker 1: and Chris Godwin. I agree with Alfredo, it is hard
Speaker 1: to know what you're gonna get from Tampa Bay. So
Speaker 1: is that more about it? Is it Chris Godwin's injury
Speaker 1: history or is it more of the offense that has
Speaker 1: him as a low end wide receiver? Two for you
Speaker 1: and you guys are closer to easier than I am.
Speaker 1: By the way, I think he's eighteen and you guys
Speaker 1: both have it, and I think he's twenty two, and
Speaker 1: I yeah, go ahead, Oh, I.
Speaker 3: Was just gonna say, I mean, like terrific player. But
Speaker 3: you know, as I was just talking about with DJ Moore,
Speaker 3: we saw Baker Mayfield obliterate his numbers, and I worry
Speaker 3: that the same thing could happen at Godwins, Godwin and Evans.
Speaker 3: But like it's not entirely the QB situation because I
Speaker 3: you know, as I mentioned with Drake London, you know,
Speaker 3: I always like to hope for a brighter future for
Speaker 3: court wide receivers stock with that QBS or in run
Speaker 3: heavy offenses if they have youth on their side. Godwin
Speaker 3: doesn't really have youth on his side. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: like mid prime to late prime of his career at
Speaker 3: age twenty seven, you know, and he has had an
Speaker 3: ACL injury now, so you wonder if that's going to
Speaker 3: maybe accelerate the age curve for him. And like he's
Speaker 3: never been a prolific TD scorer, a steady TD scorer
Speaker 3: up until the last couple of years, but like not
Speaker 3: in Evans type, where double digit touchdowns are the expectation.
Speaker 3: So like him a lot, but don't love him enough
Speaker 3: to put him in wide receiver in one range.
Speaker 2: And I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: I also obviously think my points are fair, but I
Speaker 1: think that's fair. I think people can have dissenting opinions
Speaker 1: and still understand where they're coming from. Here, Alfredo, you
Speaker 1: love JSN, You're high man out of this group on him.
Speaker 1: ECR seventeen, you have him at fourteen, pats on your
Speaker 1: heels at sixteen. I'm a little more leary on rookies
Speaker 1: jumping in having immediate impact. And I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: one spot higher on Addison than I am on JSN.
Speaker 1: But what is it about JSN that makes him close
Speaker 1: to a wide receiver one already?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, if we're looking at a rookie that could
Speaker 4: have an immediate impact, let's take a look at that
Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks offense that was so good, and then take
Speaker 4: a college prospect who had one of the best prospect
Speaker 4: profiles we've seen in quite some time, and let's just
Speaker 4: throw him in the middle of that. And I listen,
Speaker 4: Rookie wide receivers have been getting a lot more valuable
Speaker 4: as of late. Whether it's been in a redraft or dynasty,
Speaker 4: and they tend to really start to pick up steam
Speaker 4: as they get to the back end of the of
Speaker 4: their first year, their rookie season. We saw that with
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson. But a lot of what I like about
Speaker 4: jsn's Jackson Smith and Jigba's profile is that it kind
Speaker 4: of goes back to my thoughts on Amna Saint Brown
Speaker 4: and guys like Keenan Allen, you know, and even Chris
Speaker 4: Godwin to a certain degree. You know, it's these guys
Speaker 4: that are good route runners. They last a long time,
Speaker 4: they're able to get open, they're able to command targets,
Speaker 4: they're not having to rely on athleticism time and time again,
Speaker 4: and you know, these strong route runners, it just it
Speaker 4: kind of puts them in a different conversation when we
Speaker 4: look at them for Dynasty, because you know, it's you
Speaker 4: talk about the state the shades of gray, Like, dude,
Speaker 4: Dynasty rankings is fifty. Like it's all it is. It
Speaker 4: really is like it's it's it's so it's the like
Speaker 4: the pinnacle of fantasy. It is the most fantasy of
Speaker 4: fantasy football because we then start to talk ourselves into
Speaker 4: things that are happening three, four, five years down the line.
Speaker 4: But for me, the thing that like that stood out
Speaker 4: recently when I was looking at this and ranking these
Speaker 4: players is our very own Matt Waldman over at football guys,
Speaker 4: who Matt is just it's a legend, right, Uh, Matt's
Speaker 4: been doing this for a long time. And you know
Speaker 4: something that he pointed out the Seahawks offensive coordinator Shane Waldron.
Speaker 4: He was hired from the Rams a couple of years
Speaker 4: ago and he wanted to bring over that three wide
Speaker 4: receiver set offense to Seattle. And then what did the
Speaker 4: Seahawks do? They drafted d Scritch. It didn't work out.
Speaker 4: He had concussions, injuries, you know, and whatnot. Now they've
Speaker 4: invested highly in this uber talent, very productive slot wide
Speaker 4: receiver who make a mistake, that's where he's going to
Speaker 4: go to the slot. I've already talked that Tyler Lockett's
Speaker 4: going to move to the outside. That means you are
Speaker 4: putting and we do this all the time where we
Speaker 4: compare one player to another veteran, but you're putting JSN
Speaker 4: in the Cooper Cup role. And even as a rookie,
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup was a fantasy wide receiver too. In PPR
Speaker 4: getting ninety four targets with Jared goffunder center, and you
Speaker 4: know there was Todd Gurley on that team and Sammy
Speaker 4: Watkins getting eight touchdowns and that offense was still thriving
Speaker 4: and couple was able to perform. And that's what I
Speaker 4: see for Jackson Smith and jig By that even in
Speaker 4: his rookie year, he can be a top twenty four
Speaker 4: wide receiver. And as Tyler Lockett gets to be a
Speaker 4: little bit older and as dk Metcalf kind of continues
Speaker 4: to be that guy that's taking the big plays downfield,
Speaker 4: JSN becomes that just immediate target hog for this team.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I just I love the player. I love
Speaker 4: the landing spot. I think there's a good long term
Speaker 4: outlook for him.
Speaker 1: I love that comparison of Cooper Cup because we had
Speaker 1: the same logic from our boy Joe Piece of pa
Speaker 1: here Fantasy Pros talking about that before, justin Jefferson's great
Speaker 1: break out with Kevin O'Connell coming over from the UH
Speaker 1: the Rams to be the head coach of the Vikings
Speaker 1: and we saw what that did for him. Is anything
Speaker 1: we missed on Jordan Addison fifty Because you're also high
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 3: On JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigbo. You said, Jordan Addison,
Speaker 3: it's okay, I'm so excited about Yeah. Nothing nothing to
Speaker 3: add to all the points Alfredo made except I will
Speaker 3: say though, like the one thing that could really shake
Speaker 3: my confidence in JSN would be some sort of soft
Speaker 3: tissue injury in training camp after you know, he missed
Speaker 3: most of his last season at Ohio State. UH with
Speaker 3: a soft tissue injury like that would I would probably
Speaker 3: drop him like ten spots in my rankings. If he
Speaker 3: pulled a hamstring in his first week of cap he.
Speaker 1: Would be looking like Treylon Burks last year. Right, Everyone's
Speaker 1: super hyped on him. You go to Tennessee, could be
Speaker 1: the number one, and then Mike Rable calling him fat,
Speaker 1: you know, and saying he's saying he has asthma and
Speaker 1: all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: That could be an easy de rail man. I understand that.
Speaker 1: For me, it's more about, you know, they drafted Sharbon
Speaker 1: a two, and are we gonna get this same magic
Speaker 1: from Gino that we had last year this year? I'm
Speaker 1: just not really it's Gino I'm not sold on. And
Speaker 1: if Gino isn't as good, We've seen the Seahawks in
Speaker 1: the past go super run heavy and be the most
Speaker 1: run heavy team in the NFL before under Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: And they drafted sharbon A. You know, so it's Walker
Speaker 1: and sharbon A is a one two punch. Lockett is
Speaker 1: still there. You know, how many three wide receiver sets
Speaker 1: do they do? I know that's the thought process. But
Speaker 1: you know, if the run is working, maybe we do
Speaker 1: that first. So I just everything and I still have
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver too. I'm not low low
Speaker 1: on him. I'm just lower than you guys on Jason. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm a big DK Metcalf guy, and I think Metcalf
Speaker 1: hogs those touchdowns. But I mean JSN can get open
Speaker 1: like nobody's business. We saw that at Ohio State and
Speaker 1: he is a great player. We'll see if it translates
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Speaker 1: to the wide receiver threes here and we start at
Speaker 1: number twenty five with Brandon Ayuk. We're all above ecr
Speaker 1: on him. Terry McLaurin is number twenty six, followed up
Speaker 1: by Treylon Burks, Jahan Dotson, Quintin Johnston at twenty nine,
Speaker 1: Marquis Brown at thirty, Jamison Williams at thirty one, Deontay
Speaker 1: Johnson at thirty two, Zay George Pickens, Amari Cooper, and
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk finish us out thirty three to thirty six,
Speaker 1: and a couple of interesting ones.
Speaker 2: In this tier.
Speaker 1: We are all above ecr On Ayuk and Jamison Williams.
Speaker 1: So Alfred A, I'll start with you on these two
Speaker 1: wide receivers. What is it you like about these guys
Speaker 1: that we're all above ECR on man.
Speaker 4: I think sometimes you just have to look at a
Speaker 4: players and just say he's really good at football, and
Speaker 4: that's it, Like there's no fun stats, there's no like,
Speaker 4: they're just really good. And Brendan Ayuk, I don't think
Speaker 4: I'm out of line and saying he's a top five
Speaker 4: route runner in the NFL. And that's kind of been
Speaker 4: my theme when talking about good dynasty wide receivers is
Speaker 4: are they good route runners?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And he can be used from all different parts of
Speaker 4: the field as target volume seems to be quarterback proof
Speaker 4: at this point, whether it's Jimmy g or Rock Purdy
Speaker 4: or you know, anybody, he's being used as a main
Speaker 4: weapon in that offense. You know, he actually had nine
Speaker 4: games of seven or more targets last season, and a
Speaker 4: bunch of those came after the team acquired Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: So I know there's some you know, overlapping things where
Speaker 4: maybe Debo wasn't there or George Kittle miss time. And
Speaker 4: that's the only thing that really has me have has
Speaker 4: me putting Brandon Ayuke a little bit lower. Right, there's
Speaker 4: so many weapons on this team and we still don't
Speaker 4: know who the quarterback is going to be. But if
Speaker 4: Rock Berdy is there Man. He seems to run that
Speaker 4: offense really really well for Shanahan. But I honestly don't
Speaker 4: think it matters who the quarterback is going to be.
Speaker 4: I actually think I need to go and I need
Speaker 4: to move Brandon Ayuk a little bit higher. I think
Speaker 4: I need to put him ahead of Michael Pitman, who
Speaker 4: I have at wide receiver twenty instead of having a
Speaker 4: Yuke at twenty three. Because when you look at these
Speaker 4: like the Dynasty startup drafts Ayuk is going in the
Speaker 4: fifth round, and considering the talent, considering the situation, like
Speaker 4: I'd almost rather kind of wait a little bit more
Speaker 4: and get a guy like a Yuk in the fifth
Speaker 4: round than having to really spend up on a Garrett
Speaker 4: Wilson at the one two turn, where you can make
Speaker 4: a lot of the same arguments one way or the
Speaker 4: other with these guys, and so I think is a
Speaker 4: great value there. Who could have just skyrocket And then
Speaker 4: Jamison Williams, Dude, I thought I was the Jamison guy. Boggs,
Speaker 4: you are one hundred like you are so much more
Speaker 4: than me right now on Jamison, and I am shocked.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to hear about that. But there's just
Speaker 4: there's a lot of projection that we have to do.
Speaker 4: There's not a lot that we can go off aside
Speaker 4: from projecting and his prospect profile. You know, he was
Speaker 4: my rookie wide receiver one in that rookie class, and
Speaker 4: I think he was for a lot of college football
Speaker 4: analysts and draft analysts before he tours ACL lines traded
Speaker 4: up to go get him. He's highly valued. But he
Speaker 4: had such limited action. And I steal this from one
Speaker 4: of my co hosts, so over at football guys, you know,
Speaker 4: in such limited action. Dave Klugiy tweeted this out. Jamison
Speaker 4: Williams in his I believe he has three or four
Speaker 4: touches forty one yard touchdown reception forty yard and a
Speaker 4: round rushing play sixty six yard touchdown reception called back
Speaker 4: on a penalty. That's it. He is literally the most
Speaker 4: efficient player in football history. So yeah, this is a
Speaker 4: guy that I think, Man, all you can do right
Speaker 4: now is project But if everything goes well for these
Speaker 4: two players, the sky is the limit for the two
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll pass it to you, FITZI, and then I'll
Speaker 1: break down kind of why I like Jamison so much.
Speaker 1: But Ayuk and Jamison Williams. All three of us above
Speaker 1: youcr on and look just overall in the wide receivers,
Speaker 1: because when I put this list together, I went down
Speaker 1: to seventy five. I didn't just do thirty six for
Speaker 1: all of us. And there are not many guys that
Speaker 1: were all above or below consensus on, and these are
Speaker 1: two of them.
Speaker 2: So what is it about Ayuk and Williams that you like?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean I like pretty much everything Alfredo
Speaker 3: said about Ayuka. I think he is a terrific route runner,
Speaker 3: and other than that brief period where he landed in
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's doghouse, he has been productive from the jump
Speaker 3: in the NFL. And yeah, there is some target competition,
Speaker 3: kind of an unstable QB situation, but I've just I'm
Speaker 3: a big believer in the talent and he's still has
Speaker 3: youth on his side. Jamison. Maybe I'm not quite as
Speaker 3: head over heels in love with him as you guys,
Speaker 3: but yeah, like the explosiveness, the big playability. It's just
Speaker 3: so frustrating that just when we thought we were going
Speaker 3: to tap into that, he gets the six game gambling suspension.
Speaker 3: So no issues there, But Boggs, I do want to
Speaker 3: get into like our biggest disagreements on this tier, which
Speaker 3: is with a pair of second year guys, and that's
Speaker 3: Johan Dotson, who you hate for some reason. And no, no, no,
Speaker 3: even though here's here's a small, fast receiver who's actually
Speaker 3: shown us something already, like shown us more than Jamison
Speaker 3: Williams has. And you know, like I can explain my
Speaker 3: concerns about Pickens, and it's just that he's not a
Speaker 3: target earner, or at least he hasn't been a target
Speaker 3: earner yet. I mean like he hasn't. He didn't draw
Speaker 3: more than eight targets in any game as a rookie,
Speaker 3: and no more than six targets in any game like
Speaker 3: after like the early part of the season, week six
Speaker 3: or something like that, and he doesn't do anything after
Speaker 3: the catch, Like I'm just worried he really other than
Speaker 3: like the spectacular contested catch circus catches he's been making,
Speaker 3: like he does have an acrobatic air to him, no
Speaker 3: question about that, but man, like we need some some
Speaker 3: more we can sink our teeth into here box. He's
Speaker 3: just not getting targets.
Speaker 1: All right, let me let me try to hit all
Speaker 1: of these here, Okay, number one. Jamison Williams is one
Speaker 1: of the best wide receivers I've ever watched coming out
Speaker 1: of college football. He is complete, he is explosive. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have to touch the ball a million times to
Speaker 1: have big plays, obviously, as Alfredo pointed out, and I
Speaker 1: just he is so good and people are so down
Speaker 1: on him because of his limited production last year, coming
Speaker 1: off the injury obviously and then the suspension, I think
Speaker 1: soured people. So I have him, you know, I think
Speaker 1: in terms of talent, I could put him in that
Speaker 1: first round. I won't do that because we haven't seen
Speaker 1: anything yet. So a mid tier wide receiver too, I
Speaker 1: felt like was pretty good. I was shocked when I
Speaker 1: saw that he was a wide receiver three and kind
Speaker 1: of a middle end wide receiver three on ECR.
Speaker 2: I was surprised.
Speaker 1: I thought, we're forgetting about what he did at the
Speaker 1: college level and playing in the SEC at Alabama against
Speaker 1: you know, high level SEC teams and corners that are
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now, it wasn't like he was doing
Speaker 1: this in the G five or something, and look good,
Speaker 1: this isn't Dwayne Skridge. This is a you know, guy
Speaker 1: that can be DeAndre Hopkins. If he gets his head
Speaker 1: on straight and recovers from this knee surgery properly, right, like,
Speaker 1: this is something that Jameson Williams can do. That's why
Speaker 1: I love him. The second one, by the way, fits,
Speaker 1: I am closer to ecr on Dotson than you are
Speaker 1: your eight spots ahead. I'm seven spots below. I still
Speaker 1: have him as a wide receiver three as well, where
Speaker 1: he is an ECR and you have him as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver two. So I don't hate Dotson, you are
Speaker 1: in love with him, which is more than fine. And
Speaker 1: by the way, speaking of acrobatic catches, Johan Dotson has
Speaker 1: one of the best college catches I've ever seen my
Speaker 1: life life. The one handed one, I believe again Ohio
Speaker 1: State was just unbelievable. Also great, I mean, just go
Speaker 1: up and get the ball. You know, everything that you
Speaker 1: want out of Josh downs this year and the way
Speaker 1: his profile looks in terms of contestant catches and all
Speaker 1: that you saw Johan Dotson do at the pro level
Speaker 1: last year. So I do really like Johan Dottson. I'm
Speaker 1: concerned about Sam Howe and the fact that they have
Speaker 1: two big running backs that they want to run all
Speaker 1: the time, and they've been connected to Kareem Hunt. And
Speaker 1: this is also Ron rivera old school, you know, smash
Speaker 1: mouth style coach that loves to run the football first.
Speaker 1: So that is why I'm a little lower on consensus
Speaker 1: on Johan Dottson. I do not hate him, fits you
Speaker 1: love him, which is more than Okay, Look, Pickens Pickens
Speaker 1: is a tough one because it's about Pickett. To me,
Speaker 1: Pickens could be a big play like DK Metcalf type
Speaker 1: of dude. I feel like, if I mean, you'd have
Speaker 1: to put on weight to be DK Metcalf obviously, but
Speaker 1: I think that is something he could progress towards in
Speaker 1: his career. I just don't know, like how long is
Speaker 1: Matt Canada gonna be the OC here? And if he
Speaker 1: is the OC in Pittsburgh, he just does not trust
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett to throw the ball unless it's Deontay Johnson,
Speaker 1: who are all a little different on by the way,
Speaker 1: but I think that Pickens and we've gone around and
Speaker 1: round about Pickens here, so we don't have to spend
Speaker 1: more time on it. But I think as the offense
Speaker 1: opens up, Pickens gets better, he demands more targets because
Speaker 1: of that. Now the way that they built this team
Speaker 1: in the offseason, going and get Broderick Jones and you know,
Speaker 1: Darnolt Washington. Looks like they're gonna run the ball a
Speaker 1: bunch again under Matt Canada. I just don't think Canada
Speaker 1: is long for that job. And they'll eventually open it
Speaker 1: up and Kenny Pickett will gain more trust of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff things like that. But Alfred, of your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Pickens, are you in or out on Pickens?
Speaker 4: I'm still in, But I say that kind of like
Speaker 4: with there's so many of those caveats that you guys mentioned,
Speaker 4: and I don't think we need to beat a dead
Speaker 4: horse here, right Like we're all scared of Matt Canada,
Speaker 4: we're all scared of Kenny Pickett. We're all scared they're
Speaker 4: just going to run the ball forever man Picketts. When
Speaker 4: I just look him from a straight talent standpoint, the
Speaker 4: dude is incredibly talented. Where I think he needs to
Speaker 4: continue to develop is route running. He needs to get
Speaker 4: better at that, and that is something that I think
Speaker 4: that from just like a fantasy angle, like we almost
Speaker 4: always just decide players cannot get better at things, right,
Speaker 4: Like these are the stats this is what happened last year.
Speaker 4: There's no way that changes, right, Like, yeah, actually it can,
Speaker 4: like they can get better at certain things now. Typically
Speaker 4: good route runners stay good route runners. Bad route runners
Speaker 4: stay bad route runners play where wide receivers tend to improve.
Speaker 4: His hands right, pickets already got to good hands man,
Speaker 4: He's a good contested catch player. I think that the
Speaker 4: biggest factor here is going to be can he earned
Speaker 4: those targets from Kenny Pickett?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And what are Kenny Pickett's tenants he's going to be.
Speaker 4: I don't think we've still seen what that is. He
Speaker 4: was running kind of a Mickey Mouse offense last year
Speaker 4: where it was run out to the right and throw it.
Speaker 4: So the only wide receiver that's there, run out to
Speaker 4: the left and throw It's the only wide receiver that's there.
Speaker 4: And we haven't really seen what the NFL can look
Speaker 4: like for these guys. So yeah, I'm still in, but
Speaker 4: I'm not that at it on George Pickens.
Speaker 1: And I completely understand that quickly. Here we are all
Speaker 1: we are all above ECR on a couple guys down below,
Speaker 1: these wide receiver threes Keenan Allen Juju and Josh downs
Speaker 1: h Fitz, I'll start with you on these three. We're
Speaker 1: all above on those three. They're wildly different. You know,
Speaker 1: Allen's at the end of his career, Juju's in the middle,
Speaker 1: and Josh Downs is a rookie. So sell me on
Speaker 1: I guess out of that group, who do you think
Speaker 1: he will have the most shares of.
Speaker 3: Probably downs, Like I've never It's funny that I am
Speaker 3: above consensus on Keenan Allen because I've sort of been
Speaker 3: resistant to Keenan Allen even though he's like such a
Speaker 3: great route runner, Like I've never been totally in love
Speaker 3: with him because he doesn't make a lot of big
Speaker 3: plays and doesn't score a lot of touchdowns typically, like
Speaker 3: he is a volume guy, and like earlier in his career,
Speaker 3: I feel like the volume led to injuries because he
Speaker 3: was taking a lot of punishment. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: he is one of the best route runners of this generation,
Speaker 3: no question about it. And like I just wonder, I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe now that their offense is going to
Speaker 3: be a little bit less horizontal and a little more vertical,
Speaker 3: hopefully with Kellen Moore replacing Joe Lombardi, like we get
Speaker 3: to see higher level targets for Keenan Allen this year.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I like, he's not gonna be around
Speaker 3: that much longer, but I feel like you can ride
Speaker 3: into the sunset with him pretty well. I'm surprised I'm
Speaker 3: above ECR on Juju. I guess the thing is, it's like,
Speaker 3: by the.
Speaker 1: Way, you guys are both like two spots ahead, and
Speaker 1: I'm like fifteen spots ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be the mouthpeeth on mouthpee on Juju
Speaker 3: here bogs because like I'm like, I'm not I'm kind
Speaker 3: of ambivalent. You know, downtime is the prospect. I like,
Speaker 3: who's going to be a solid slot receiver, But yeah,
Speaker 3: talk talk about Juju. You got to be the one
Speaker 3: to carry the torch here.
Speaker 1: Look, and I might lower Juju because the thing that
Speaker 1: really is getting to me is Hopkins rumors and the
Speaker 1: knee thing not being completely healed, which you've just learned
Speaker 1: about last week, which is shaking my faith in Juju
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Not being able to recover from
Speaker 1: another injury. But I mean, I I just think that
Speaker 1: a lot of the Juju hate is overkill, you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, he put up this monster season
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown next to him, and he hasn't got
Speaker 1: back there. Yes, he's not that player. I accept that.
Speaker 1: I have him as a low end wide receiver three,
Speaker 1: and he's going to be the number one wide out
Speaker 1: in New England this year as long as they don't
Speaker 1: sign Hopkins, he's going to be a one target getter
Speaker 1: on that team. Yes, don't even start with DeVante Parker.
Speaker 3: Fix they just.
Speaker 1: Find a way to mute you fifties. Don't even start
Speaker 1: with Devonte Parker with me. So look, yes, they rewarded
Speaker 1: Parker is a part of their long term plans or whatever.
Speaker 1: But Juju is going to be the guy. This short
Speaker 1: easy throws are going to go to him for Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: We don't trust Mac Jones to throw the ball downfield.
Speaker 1: So Juju's gonna get those easy catches over in the
Speaker 1: middle and he's gonna score touchdowns. He's just I don't
Speaker 1: even think he's great, but I think he's good and
Speaker 1: he's fine, and he's a one hundred catch guy moving forward.
Speaker 2: That's a wide receiver three. You know.
Speaker 1: I think that that is what we should be looking
Speaker 1: for for him as long as he's not hurt moving forward.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm still in on Juju. I just
Speaker 1: think the hate has gone a little too far because
Speaker 1: he's not what we expected when everyone's putting him in
Speaker 1: the top five after that huge year with Antonio, with
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, he let us down, and now it's the
Speaker 1: over correction which we see from everyone. Yes I'm a
Speaker 1: Steelers fan, Yes I'm a Homer, but I'm not that
Speaker 1: big a homer. I've said this a million times. I
Speaker 1: always love Juju for knocking out perfect like that is,
Speaker 1: you know, I always love him for that. Uh maybe
Speaker 1: that is still living in my heart a little bit.
Speaker 1: So understand that when you're looking at my rankings and
Speaker 1: roll your eyes at Juju, a move on. But I
Speaker 1: still do like him. We are all there's one guy
Speaker 1: that we're all lower on here, and it's Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: It's the guy on the other side of Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: so Alfredo. We all hate Mike Williams. Apparently, is this
Speaker 1: the right take?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to ever say that it's
Speaker 4: the right take to hate a player, so I'm going
Speaker 4: to rephrase it. I think that we are all fine
Speaker 4: being a bit below ECR on Mike Williams. The thing
Speaker 4: for me is it's it's kind of twofold one. It's
Speaker 4: what have you done for me lately, which has not
Speaker 4: been much. He's got one finish as a top thirty
Speaker 4: wide receiver in the last four seasons, even if you
Speaker 4: adjust for half PPR, which a guy with his skill
Speaker 4: set should be better at, and he's just he's just
Speaker 4: not there. I think the addition of Quenton Johnston kind
Speaker 4: of muddies the waters for him a little bit. Gerald Everett,
Speaker 4: I think is actually one of the most underrated tight
Speaker 4: ends in the fantasy landscape right now, especially in Kellen
Speaker 4: Moore's offense. And you know, we talked about that. You
Speaker 4: talked about that switch bogs for you know, or maybe
Speaker 4: it was you Pat talking about how the Charge is
Speaker 4: gonna be a bit more of a vertical team this year.
Speaker 4: That still lends itself to a lot of targets for
Speaker 4: that slot. And Keenan Allen. We saw what it's done
Speaker 4: for Ceedee Lamb over the years, and Lamb having one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty plus targets last year. So I think
Speaker 4: that this offense is just going to keep lending itself
Speaker 4: to more Keenan Allen. Now the newly drafted Quentin Johnston
Speaker 4: and Gerald Everett. Austin Eckler is still gonna be very
Speaker 4: heavily involved. I just I can't bring myself to ever
Speaker 4: be like, oh, Mike Williams on the board, let me
Speaker 4: get some of that. I almost kind of keep him
Speaker 4: there as a default because he's talented and on a
Speaker 4: good offense, and if someone gets hurt, then you know
Speaker 4: you're looking at a guy that can produce.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want a guy that's going to be
Speaker 1: questionable for ten years, ten weeks out of the year,
Speaker 1: then Mike Williams is your guy. Fitz and I have
Speaker 1: talked about Mike Williams a bunch, so we don't need
Speaker 1: to on to that. But Fitz, I'll ask you this
Speaker 1: and I'll come back to you Alfredo to end it
Speaker 1: for us. Any other wide receivers that you either want
Speaker 1: a campaign for you want to warn people about, anyone
Speaker 1: that we didn't get to before we go, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm lower on Marquise Brown. I just like
Speaker 3: everyone's going to be excited that he is going to
Speaker 3: be seemingly the alpha receiver, but it's gonna be in
Speaker 3: a terrible offense. It's gonna be He's already been super
Speaker 3: inefficient in his career, like seven point two yards per
Speaker 3: target or something like one point six some something yards
Speaker 3: per route run. He's given us one season with more
Speaker 3: than eight hundred yards in four years. He's smaller, so
Speaker 3: I think there's a bit more injury risk there, and
Speaker 3: like it's just gonna be a dumpster fire of an offense.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not into Marquise Brown at all, So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I have him on zero Dynasty teams.
Speaker 1: So why Fitz and I are friends? He uses his
Speaker 1: minute to crap on an Oklahoma player. I love it, Alfredo.
Speaker 1: Any other wide receiver that you want to, you know,
Speaker 1: give the used car salesman pitched for.
Speaker 2: Anyone you want to warn anyone about.
Speaker 4: It would have been Jamison Williams man. But we really
Speaker 4: got into our bag on that one. So I'm going
Speaker 4: to talk about a guy that I recently looked at
Speaker 4: on my show talking about guys with crazy upside or
Speaker 4: scary downside, and for me, it's Christian Watson, who, after
Speaker 4: looking a bit more into his profile, I'm actually starting
Speaker 4: to get hired and hire on Christian Watson. I need
Speaker 4: to move him up a bit, you know, we already
Speaker 4: know he's an elite level athlete, and there is a
Speaker 4: legitimate chance that Jordan Love could be better for Watson
Speaker 4: than Rogers was in twenty twenty two. Rogers really was
Speaker 4: not that good, and we all know that from Week
Speaker 4: ten to seventeen, Christian Watson was really good. He was
Speaker 4: a wide receiver nine in fantasy points per game, targeted
Speaker 4: on twenty four percent of his routes, and they were
Speaker 4: valuable targets, right. It was a bit more downfield. He
Speaker 4: was eleventh and yards per route run at two point
Speaker 4: twenty six. So it's not just that he was getting targeted,
Speaker 4: it's not just that he was scoring touchdowns, but he
Speaker 4: was doing it in a way that was actually a
Speaker 4: bit more valuable. And when you look at all the
Speaker 4: other wide receivers that are getting that kind of let's
Speaker 4: call it, that kind of target share with that sort
Speaker 4: of route depth, it's all these guys like Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, A. J. Brown, Jalen Wild, Devonte like, it's
Speaker 4: all the big names in fantasy football, and Christian Watson
Speaker 4: was number eleven last year on that list. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm still very high on Christian Watson, and I kind
Speaker 4: of like that you can get him at a discount
Speaker 4: because everyone is worried about Jordan Love and the rookies
Speaker 4: that they drafted.
Speaker 2: For me, it's John Metchi.
Speaker 1: John Metchi, I have as my last wide receiver four
Speaker 1: because they just didn't want to make him a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Five.
Speaker 1: I'm way higher than most people are on him. He's
Speaker 1: almost free. You can scoop him up real late. He's
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver on the Texans right now. I
Speaker 1: love him. Just got to get obviously over the cancer
Speaker 1: stuff and it seems like he is good to go,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about his potential. So that is it
Speaker 1: for us on the wide receivers. Did you like these rankings?
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Speaker 1: for myself at fits Underscore f f f Fitzi, and
Speaker 1: Alfredo at the Pretend GM on Twitter from football guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much Alfredo for coming on the show
Speaker 1: and talking some wide receivers with us.
Speaker 4: Kay, thank you for having me.
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