Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod, which Teddy Mellencamp and Tam
Speaker 1: rich Idge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of two Teas in
Speaker 2: a Pod and see I'm here with Cynthia. We've got
Speaker 2: Orange County and some housewive headline.
Speaker 3: Hi Cynthia, Bye, Hi Teddy.
Speaker 2: How's it going? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Everything is good, Everything is good. Excited to get back
Speaker 3: on here and hang out with you for a little bit.
Speaker 3: I have to shout out. I had a few followers
Speaker 3: from the podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh many.
Speaker 3: I think I had about six people comment and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I was watching you and Teddy and I saw that
Speaker 3: you're on your mission. They understand the mission. A meet
Speaker 3: four million, every follow up camps. At this point, I'm
Speaker 3: so close, so thank you to like now. I think
Speaker 3: it's a total of maybe twelve people.
Speaker 2: Don't say that to Teas in a Pod. Doesn't women
Speaker 2: empowering women over here? Okay, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: following me, and I love you guys. We'll get there.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's gonna happen. Guys. We need at least six
Speaker 2: more this week, so let's get it going. What else
Speaker 2: is going on with you. I had like kind of
Speaker 2: a brutal day yesterday. I'm not going to get too
Speaker 2: much into the details, but essentially, someone sent me a letter.
Speaker 2: I went to my mailbox at my home. I opened
Speaker 2: the letter and somebody wrote me the most disgusting things
Speaker 2: about my daughter, what yeah about your time? About my
Speaker 2: ten year old daughter? And it was so mean and
Speaker 2: so hurtful and just so untrue. It just it really
Speaker 2: my mind is. I posted it for sac like I
Speaker 2: had a moment of like mama bear rage, and I
Speaker 2: posted it for a second it on Instagram because I
Speaker 2: wanted to find out who wrote it. And I just
Speaker 2: was like and then my husband's like, take that down.
Speaker 2: Take it down. I'm like why, and he's like, because
Speaker 2: if Slate ever sees what these people said, it will
Speaker 2: crush her. She can never find out. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know. Then I was like, all right, you're right.
Speaker 2: But then I did post a clip because not only
Speaker 2: did I get a two page typed out letter in
Speaker 2: my mailbox, I also my slave's horse trainer got a
Speaker 2: voice message from this person yelling, do.
Speaker 3: You have any idea who this person is?
Speaker 2: No? And that's the thing, Like I posted, I cut
Speaker 2: out you know my daughter's name, and just posted a
Speaker 2: clip of the woman's voice because she's like, you know,
Speaker 2: she's she just sounds like angry. It really hit me
Speaker 2: in like a way that I wasn't even expecting, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like people can come at me all they want.
Speaker 3: Listen as a mom myself teddy like I already feel
Speaker 3: your pain, I feel your anger. And Noel's a twenty
Speaker 3: three year old woman and still leave my kid alone
Speaker 3: because she's going to be my kid, And I get it,
Speaker 3: and I'm so sorry that that happens to you.
Speaker 2: But I just more I want to know, like do
Speaker 2: we know this person? Is it someone in the horse world?
Speaker 2: They knew like specifics that you couldn't get from my Instagram,
Speaker 2: so they must have some sort of in with the
Speaker 2: horse world. But it's like and then you know the
Speaker 2: part that I did post, people said something along the
Speaker 2: lines of like, you know, don't give these trolls any
Speaker 2: more attention. It's not worth it. But I have kind
Speaker 2: of a different take on it and some extent, like
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we need that wake up call like
Speaker 2: this is happening and it is actually really hurtful and
Speaker 2: so unnecessary and if you're in a place where you
Speaker 2: feel like you want to go and send a letter
Speaker 2: to a stranger about their child, there's like some real
Speaker 2: reflection we need to do. And I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm on a shit talking podcast where we talk about everybody,
Speaker 2: the good, the ugly, all those things. But these are
Speaker 2: people choosing to be on television right.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I think what concerns me is that it
Speaker 3: w wasn't beyond Instagram, Like, now there's a letter coming
Speaker 3: to your house, Like, we don't know who this person is.
Speaker 3: You could get in your car and go somewhere and
Speaker 3: they could show up where you are. I mean there's
Speaker 3: times where you may have like a public appearance somewhere
Speaker 3: and you have to say where you're going, Like you
Speaker 3: just don't know how big or how serious this thing
Speaker 3: could become. And that's what's really scary. And I think
Speaker 3: sometimes we feel like a little invincible. We think, oh, well,
Speaker 3: nothing's really got to happen to us, But we don't
Speaker 3: always know the mental wellness part of who. You know,
Speaker 3: some of these people are that that follow us or
Speaker 3: you know what you know, we don't, we don't, we
Speaker 3: don't know, so we do have to be careful because
Speaker 3: I had a situation before too years ago where I
Speaker 3: had a stalker and he would literally show up to
Speaker 3: everything that I that I went to, and it got
Speaker 3: to the point where I wasn't afraid of him, but
Speaker 3: I just didn't think he was totally well. I couldn't
Speaker 3: call it. So I finally anytime I started to do events,
Speaker 3: I had a photo of him because I found this
Speaker 3: Instagram and I just had they had a picture, and
Speaker 3: if he tried to come, they just stopped letting him in,
Speaker 3: and it finally just went away. But it could have escalated.
Speaker 3: He could have showed up in my house. You just
Speaker 3: never know.
Speaker 2: And so it's like, and if you are that person
Speaker 2: and you're listening to this podcast right now, I want
Speaker 2: you to know, like one, nobody ever needs to hear
Speaker 2: these things about their child. Nobody ever wants to see them.
Speaker 2: Nor would I ever take advice from a stranger, especially
Speaker 2: when it's such hurtful things to say. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: I just I think that sometimes forget people forget like
Speaker 2: we're actual human beings. And you know the fact that
Speaker 2: last night I'm staying up late to order air tags
Speaker 2: and all these different things, so that I make sure
Speaker 2: that I'm able to translate it every second. It's like
Speaker 2: this is it's just it's so unfortunate, and you know,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. But if I feel seem alone,
Speaker 2: like uh down today, that's why it like really hit
Speaker 2: me like a ton of bricks. Like I was working
Speaker 2: and then I was just like, ugh. Bella was sitting
Speaker 2: here as I opened the letter, and I just started
Speaker 2: like sobbing crying, and she's like you okay, Teddy, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like I couldn't even breathe.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm so sorry, and just you know, I get it. Well,
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I'll send you the letter. It's insane.
Speaker 2: But let's get into some fan questions here. I lighten
Speaker 2: the mood, like, how does Cynthia feel that she was
Speaker 2: edited out of the latest episode of the Real Housewives
Speaker 2: of Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't believe that this has turned
Speaker 3: into such a thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's like twenty memes now, no, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, are you serious? Okay? I had like everyone flooding
Speaker 3: my dms and then I saw it was trending. Okay,
Speaker 3: so let me give you guys some insights so I
Speaker 3: do pop in and out of Atlanta this season. So
Speaker 3: that one particular scene that they to put in the trailer,
Speaker 3: the first trailer when they started promoting Housewives of Atlanta
Speaker 3: for this season, they decided to put me in that trailer.
Speaker 3: I even ended up in that scene. I just honestly
Speaker 3: happened to be working shooting another job in a studio.
Speaker 3: I get there and my producer tells me, oh, I
Speaker 3: think Housewives is shooting next, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god. Like, not only am my friends with most
Speaker 3: of the cast, I'm friends with the producers. So I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what. I didn't want to be
Speaker 3: like literally right next door and not go say hi.
Speaker 3: So I was like just popping over. They said, oh,
Speaker 3: it's Kenya. I was like even better. And then I
Speaker 3: heard Brooklyn was there. I was like, Oh, I'm definitely
Speaker 3: when I get done, I'm just gonna pop in and
Speaker 3: say hello to Kenya and Brooklyn and any of the
Speaker 3: producers that are still on the show from when I
Speaker 3: was on the show.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So I pop in, and of course, and you know
Speaker 3: how this works. As soon as I got there, they
Speaker 3: were like, oh my god, can we mic you? Can
Speaker 3: we mic? It. I was like, no, I was just
Speaker 3: working next door, like, ah, not a part of kenya'store line, Like,
Speaker 3: she didn't know I was coming. I didn't know that
Speaker 3: I was going to be in a studio next to her.
Speaker 3: So it was it was just one of those things.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, because I had hair
Speaker 3: and makeup on it, because I was coming from work,
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, fine, this might be.
Speaker 3: They're not going to use this. Like at that point,
Speaker 3: I hadn't even I hadn't even started popping in with
Speaker 3: the cast yet. Oh okay, random thing. And then I
Speaker 3: popped in. Of course She's like, oh my god, and
Speaker 3: whatever whatever. The man that she's dating is a part
Speaker 3: of her storyline, I'm not so apparently he popped in too.
Speaker 3: So of course, as a producer, what are you going
Speaker 3: to keep in the scene if you have to pick
Speaker 3: like me just randomly showing up because I was in
Speaker 3: the neighborhood, right, the man that she's actually interested in,
Speaker 3: who goes by her shoe to support her?
Speaker 2: So, okay, what.
Speaker 3: Happened to you guys? And that's all it is. So
Speaker 3: I don't feel any kind of way about it because
Speaker 3: I wasn't even supposed to be there in the first place.
Speaker 3: Those are not even the scenes that I was really,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of putting out there that I that
Speaker 3: I expect to be a part of that I shot,
Speaker 3: and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, because that's I was like, does this mean
Speaker 2: that you're not going to want to go back and
Speaker 2: film again because they didn't use it, and like people
Speaker 2: are asking like, would you only come back now if
Speaker 2: you were full time because you're not, Like people are amped.
Speaker 3: But I found a thing.
Speaker 2: Well, then I went down the rabbit hole and I
Speaker 2: was like, do we think that she was at that
Speaker 2: dinner with Chara and like Kim and all I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm confused. Is that how much said?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I was not at the
Speaker 3: OG dinner. That was the first time I filmed period,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't even It was just a random oh
Speaker 3: can we mike you King is going to be so
Speaker 3: excited for you to surprise her. It wasn't even supposed
Speaker 3: to happen, but it happened. And then they put it
Speaker 3: in a trailer and that made it a thing, and
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 2: I can live with that. I can live with that right.
Speaker 2: The next question for you is, was were you surprised
Speaker 2: that Kim and CROI called off their divorce?
Speaker 3: Was I was surprised both ways. I was surprised they
Speaker 3: filed for divorce and then I was surprised that they
Speaker 3: called it off. Yeah, both ways.
Speaker 2: And then what about that timing? Like I sometimes I
Speaker 2: wonder if TMZ just hold on to stuff and then
Speaker 2: wait to release it until something else happens. Because once
Speaker 2: they announced that they were getting back together, then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I think TMZ released that video of
Speaker 2: her kind of flipping out at like being locked out
Speaker 2: of the bathroom, like they post all this stuff. I
Speaker 2: didn't even fully water to think, But I'm like, I
Speaker 2: wonder how long they've been sitting on this video, Like
Speaker 2: it might be a.
Speaker 3: TMS vault that they just keep footage on. Just they
Speaker 3: are like stars to unravel, and you know, they can
Speaker 3: come and use it against you or just at least
Speaker 3: monetize it or like use it for their own advantage
Speaker 3: at some point.
Speaker 2: Well, there's also a clip where Kroy says that she
Speaker 2: gambled away one point five million dollars.
Speaker 3: It's all over the place at this point, I will
Speaker 3: say this and I'm very team I'm very much team
Speaker 3: be happy, whatever's going to make you have. But I
Speaker 3: think when you have children, and you have as many
Speaker 3: kids as they have, I think it's worth it to
Speaker 3: give it that extra try to just try to figure
Speaker 3: it out. And from everything that's piping up online, I
Speaker 3: mean that maybe they both do they both have a
Speaker 3: gambling problem. Like I'm just trying to figure out, like
Speaker 3: who who's the problem?
Speaker 1: Are?
Speaker 3: They both kind of like to have issues.
Speaker 2: I Mean, I have no idea, but from what I've
Speaker 2: read as the problem is that she gambles. And allegedly
Speaker 2: what she has said is that he hasn't had a
Speaker 2: job since.
Speaker 3: He played since he played Okay, so.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's like living off.
Speaker 3: Of well and well what I assumed. And this is
Speaker 3: just me on the outside looking in, Like throughout that
Speaker 3: time and after that they had a show, don't be
Speaker 3: charged for the party. So in my BRABO mind, I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 3: this is the next thing, and this is how they're
Speaker 3: making money and choice part of that show. So he
Speaker 3: I'm sure was compensated to be honest, Well.
Speaker 2: My guess is he was compensated like a first season housewife.
Speaker 2: So if you've got to gam if you if you
Speaker 2: got gambling in there and all kinds of stuff. First
Speaker 2: season Housewife, you could not afford to even gamble.
Speaker 3: No, you don't even know. You don't need to be
Speaker 3: at the slot machine. But I will say, as someone
Speaker 3: who shared their life on the show where money was
Speaker 3: an issue, the last thing that we would want to
Speaker 3: bring into the equation is a gambling issue. There's nothing
Speaker 3: to gamble, Okay, the chances of you winning, especially when
Speaker 3: you're when you're when you're losing everything, that's not when
Speaker 3: you win.
Speaker 2: You only want money.
Speaker 3: When you actually have money.
Speaker 2: In my theory, yeah, you only won money when you
Speaker 2: don't even care, and when you're doing it for sport.
Speaker 2: If you're doing it for sport versus necessity, that's different.
Speaker 3: But I wish them well. I do, whether they stay, go,
Speaker 3: whatever it is, I wish them well.
Speaker 2: The next one is for you. We've got three back.
Speaker 2: Vack used how I.
Speaker 3: Never did any questions.
Speaker 2: I know people are really into how are things with
Speaker 2: Kyle and Melissa and you since the Girls Trip?
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, we're good. We are good. I have seen
Speaker 3: how a few times since the Girl's Trip, and we're good. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: we are good. I like how we made up. I
Speaker 3: let it go. I feel like she let it go
Speaker 3: and we've moved on, so we're good. Okay, Melissa, I've
Speaker 3: seen Melissa, and we are good as well. I felt
Speaker 3: like she said something that just kind of rubbed me
Speaker 3: the wrong way. And watching What Happens Live and something, and.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're just on did she say I
Speaker 2: don't remember.
Speaker 3: I can't remember like she was saying. I can't remember
Speaker 3: what she said. I think Andy asked me, have asked
Speaker 3: her something like who were you most surprised about how
Speaker 3: they were on the trip? And I think she said
Speaker 3: to me and she felt like I wasn't fun or whatever,
Speaker 3: or like I can't remember because I was like going
Speaker 3: through all my stuff and and yeah, after the second day,
Speaker 3: I wasn't fun.
Speaker 2: I really was.
Speaker 3: I couldn't stand there with the people on the trip
Speaker 3: because I was in my feelings. Okay, so yeah, she's
Speaker 3: absolutely right, But I felt like I never had an
Speaker 3: issue with her on the shop, right, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So if Pal said, yeah, well that was
Speaker 3: a boy when Cynthia wasn't fun or King said, it
Speaker 3: was a point where I wasn't fun that they would
Speaker 3: have been just said it, because no, we did not
Speaker 3: have fun because we went at it a little bit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you were like you had your feeling, sir.
Speaker 2: You were because that's Cynthia. Because I remember watching Girls
Speaker 2: Trip and I hadn't we hadn't done Big Brother together
Speaker 2: at that point. I was like, gosh, you know, like
Speaker 2: when then I saw you and Big Brother, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: hell shoot, and then you are such a light. You're
Speaker 2: so fun, You're so easy going, Like it was such
Speaker 2: a huge change to how I pictured after watching Girls Trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough trip for me. And again,
Speaker 3: you know, for me, I was kind of going through
Speaker 3: some other stuff that didn't have anything to do with
Speaker 3: the Girls or the trip. I do remember maybe she
Speaker 3: said something about like I was jealous or whatever, because.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she said Cynthia's jealousy put her in shock.
Speaker 3: My jealousy, Okay, So where that came from was basically
Speaker 3: after I was feeling. How I was feeling about Kenya
Speaker 3: on the trip was just pretty much just being isolated
Speaker 3: because I just felt like, you know, that was our
Speaker 3: time to just be fun and you know, we don't
Speaker 3: have like again doing Atlanta's not an easy job. Okay,
Speaker 3: this was going this was going to be easy in
Speaker 3: my mind. We're gonna have fun and everybody else were
Speaker 3: just gonna be a part of it. Then I was
Speaker 3: with my girl, and then it didn't turn out that way.
Speaker 3: So I guess it could have come off like I
Speaker 3: was being jealous, but not jealous and like, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: jealous because you know, King is having a great time
Speaker 3: and I'm miserable. It wasn't like that kind of jealousy.
Speaker 3: It was just kind of like you were disappointed, so
Speaker 3: sad that things are happening the way they're happening. When
Speaker 3: I really literally went into this like hey, this is
Speaker 3: gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2: So do you think that at all it was intentional
Speaker 2: with Kenya, like when looking back, or you like, do
Speaker 2: you think she picked too you know, too popular housewives
Speaker 2: she wanted to be friends or do you think it
Speaker 2: just naturally happened.
Speaker 3: I I have to just because I have been friends
Speaker 3: with Kenya for a long time and she just literally
Speaker 3: just texted me and asked me where I was at,
Speaker 3: and we were able to get past all of this.
Speaker 3: I'm going to, as her friend, give her the benefit
Speaker 3: of the doubt that none of it was intentional. It
Speaker 3: just folded came, It just unfolded the way it unfolded,
Speaker 3: and it was just it was just unfortunate for us
Speaker 3: and for me, and it was a true test of
Speaker 3: our friendship. And you know, we didn't talk for a
Speaker 3: long time and then we finally talked. I mean a
Speaker 3: long time, like a couple of years.
Speaker 2: It was a minute. And like Shannon and Tam are long.
Speaker 3: I can when I'm hurt, I can kind of hold
Speaker 3: onto it for a second. So and I just needed
Speaker 3: to like understand and figure out what I needed and
Speaker 3: how I could just show up as the kind of
Speaker 3: friend that I needed to show up and just understand
Speaker 3: the bandarieson that I needed to, like, you know, set
Speaker 3: my friendships and relationships. You know, I can be a
Speaker 3: bit of a people pleaser and what or whatever, and
Speaker 3: I don't do well when when it's not unicorns and rainbows,
Speaker 3: when it's like, oh, what's happening. So I'm going to
Speaker 3: say to answer your question that it was not intentional.
Speaker 3: I don't, in my heart believe that it was. I
Speaker 3: don't think she would ever intentionally do anything to hurt.
Speaker 2: My feelings yeah, this one's for both of us. Have
Speaker 2: either of us recently talked to Drew. I have not.
Speaker 2: I even though I, you know, did a couple of
Speaker 2: podcasts with her and I love Drew. I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like when somebody's going through it, m hm, unless
Speaker 2: they're like telling, you know, I reached out initially just
Speaker 2: to say I'm here if you need anything, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But I haven't reached out again solely because sometimes, especially
Speaker 2: with the position that I had, like my job doing this,
Speaker 2: I don't want to push her right to share something
Speaker 2: that she thinks. I'm like, you know, I just like
Speaker 2: that if she wants, she knows where I am, and
Speaker 2: I support her and I want what's best for her,
Speaker 2: and I hope she's okay. But I haven't like been
Speaker 2: shoving myself down her throat.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm that kind of friend as well, because
Speaker 3: when I'm going through my own personal stuff, I don't
Speaker 3: want everybody showing up with like, you know, tuppleware with
Speaker 3: food and tupperware and ringing my doorbell and checking on
Speaker 3: me like I need a minute. Like when I'm going
Speaker 3: through my little like dark moments or you know, sad times,
Speaker 3: I need a minute, and I kind of isolate a
Speaker 3: little bit, yeah, to take the text and stuff, but
Speaker 3: I definitely kind of want like, I'm excited that you
Speaker 3: texted me and that you care, but I just need
Speaker 3: like time to process stuff. So I kind of feel
Speaker 3: like not that everybody. You know, some people maybe want
Speaker 3: you to show up with like you know or whatever
Speaker 3: and be like, hey, you know, I'm here for you,
Speaker 3: I'm ready to move in or whatever. I'm just the opposite.
Speaker 3: So I kind of get people's space. But I did
Speaker 3: reach out, of course, of course, of course, and I'll like,
Speaker 3: you know, the random like hey, Sydny loves Sydney Strength
Speaker 3: but or whatever. But I actually just looked at my
Speaker 3: phone and apparently we just texted not that long ago,
Speaker 3: because I've been there's this chiropract total random story, but
Speaker 3: there's a chiropractor on Instagram that like cracks. Everybody's like wow,
Speaker 3: and I've been wanting to do it, but I was
Speaker 3: afraid to do it. And then finally she did it.
Speaker 3: Drew went and sent me a video said you got
Speaker 3: come on, It's amazing and I just did it or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh shit. And after she sent
Speaker 3: me that, which was maybe a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I went and got all cracked.
Speaker 2: Oh and how was it?
Speaker 3: It was amazing?
Speaker 2: Oh now I want to get cracked. I feel so sore.
Speaker 2: You know, some days we just fell one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty years old. That's how I feel right now.
Speaker 3: Oh honey, get my age, like you definitely need to
Speaker 3: appreciate a good nick cracking and oh I know right
Speaker 3: now everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, can we do it to teas in a
Speaker 2: pod massage?
Speaker 3: I know I need to else.
Speaker 2: This one is how does Cynthia navigate being friends with
Speaker 2: Teddy and Sutton?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's very easy. Actually, the relationship you and such
Speaker 3: relationship is none of my business. That's why I navigated
Speaker 3: the same way you navigate being friends with calid me.
Speaker 3: But we were having issues. It ain't none of you
Speaker 3: have nothing to do with Yeah, no skin off my ass.
Speaker 2: Who's who you're friends with and who you're not? Like,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. I can and like my
Speaker 2: relationships and same with you, I'm sure, but like I've
Speaker 2: never been that person that's like, oh I don't like her.
Speaker 2: I don't want you to be with this person. I
Speaker 2: don't care, Like if this person is a good friend
Speaker 2: to you go for it. I've never been like, don't
Speaker 2: hang out with that person, or that person's bad, or
Speaker 2: that person's a user, like you make your own judgments
Speaker 2: and like. And I'm not saying sence any of those things.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying in any relationship, I've never been a
Speaker 2: fomo person or any of those types of things either.
Speaker 2: So I'm also a little different.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, we're not in high school, and I'm all
Speaker 3: my friends are very grown and know I would never
Speaker 3: ask them to like you just said. I'd never say, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not really in a great space with
Speaker 3: so and so. Could you like just not hang out
Speaker 3: with her right now? No? No, do you like but
Speaker 3: just tell me if we're doing an intimate dinner and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, yeah, let me know about that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the next question. Would the three of us
Speaker 2: have dinner and hash it out one I don't think
Speaker 2: there's anything to hash out, Like, there's not. We don't
Speaker 2: have this like defining moment that caused a problem. I
Speaker 2: just think we have different ways of communicating and I
Speaker 2: don't think we understand each other's language.
Speaker 3: And that's okay because guess what, you know, when you're
Speaker 3: like put in a group of six women. Some women
Speaker 3: you're just a gonna have things in common with, some
Speaker 3: you're gonna be more compatible with than others, and some
Speaker 3: you maybe would never in a million years ever be
Speaker 3: around them if you weren't on a TV show with them, right,
Speaker 3: and some you just can live in a respectful space
Speaker 3: with them. I understand what that is. And the girls,
Speaker 3: the ladies that I have been around that I have
Speaker 3: organic connection with, like it's it just works, and the
Speaker 3: ones I don't. When I see them, we just have fun.
Speaker 3: But it's not like I'm like blowing them up to
Speaker 3: like hang out all the time.
Speaker 2: So it's just, yeah, it's more just And it's almost
Speaker 2: easier for me to be able to talk about certain
Speaker 2: situations that happen on the show if I'm not having
Speaker 2: super close relationships with the women on there, So it's
Speaker 2: easier for me to just disengage, and you know, then
Speaker 2: I can talk about whatever it is that I want.
Speaker 3: It's like, because you guys do have friends in common
Speaker 3: and you actually might have to see each other as
Speaker 3: opposed to like in the real world, where you if
Speaker 3: you don't like somebody.
Speaker 2: You probably just don't see them.
Speaker 3: That's it. I think for me, it just comes down
Speaker 3: to disrespect as long as they're just is like cordial
Speaker 3: respectfulness going on. You know, you guys can live in
Speaker 3: the same dinner situation, party situation and keep it moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean it is what it is. We Oh,
Speaker 2: this is interesting. Would either of us ever do a
Speaker 2: Big Brother again if they had an All Stars?
Speaker 3: I think I would.
Speaker 2: I mean I came out of there and I was
Speaker 2: only there eighteen days, like with the with the quarantine
Speaker 2: and the house, and I came out and I remember
Speaker 2: there was like forty eight hours, so I barely knew
Speaker 2: my name.
Speaker 3: It took a minute. Yeah, I would do it again, Teddy,
Speaker 3: just because I feel like I didn't know what I
Speaker 3: was doing the first time. And now I remember, I've
Speaker 3: literally had no clue how to play the game. How
Speaker 3: I lie?
Speaker 2: And you never believed me when I told you. I
Speaker 2: would be like, I know, yeah, they're coming for you.
Speaker 3: No, that's so nice.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this is okay.
Speaker 3: But I was like a hot mess. I did not know.
Speaker 3: It is still like baffling. How I actually, well, I
Speaker 3: know how I made it to top three because I
Speaker 3: was never threatned knowing what I know now after doing
Speaker 3: Big Brother, I would absolutely do it again because now
Speaker 3: I kind of know how the game works and how
Speaker 3: it's played. You won't go far either, because you could
Speaker 3: have won because you were a threat, and that's what
Speaker 3: he had to get your butt out.
Speaker 2: A sat well is what it is. And did we
Speaker 2: talk to anybody from the cast? I talked to Carson
Speaker 2: some and then occasionally I'll DM with Shana, we'll dealm
Speaker 2: with her. But I you know, I haven't really I
Speaker 2: don't think I don't have seen anyone.
Speaker 3: I still keep in contact with you. I still keep
Speaker 3: in contact with Carson. We're like, do a lunch and
Speaker 3: I keep in contact with Toddrick. I do, yes, But
Speaker 3: we'll just move on from that.
Speaker 2: We'll just move right on because this isn't a Big
Speaker 2: Brother recas.
Speaker 3: Keep in contact with Toddrick.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Well, let's take a little break and we'll come
Speaker 2: back and talk about Watch what Happens Live in Orange County.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back. We've got some housewife headlines
Speaker 2: Watch what Happens Live. So the first housewife headline is
Speaker 2: it's a jen Aiden one. Jen Aiden declared she's team
Speaker 2: Louis after Megan King slammed him on Watch What Happens Live.
Speaker 2: So I guess what happened was Megan King was on
Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I'm not even trying to be so much.
Speaker 2: Megan Edmonds, she was on Real Housewives of Orange County
Speaker 2: for a couple of seasons.
Speaker 3: Okay, what did she say about Louis?
Speaker 2: She said that essentially, she said he's a slimeball narcissist.
Speaker 2: And so then jen Aiden posted this comment. Listening to
Speaker 2: an opinion from a person who doesn't know him at
Speaker 2: all and has never met him a day in her
Speaker 2: life is not that smart. But then again, neither is
Speaker 2: her track record with men hashtag team Louis. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is my question. I know, I don't even know if
Speaker 2: you watched Jersey you probably don't. My guess I see.
Speaker 3: It on you know, my tim. I feel like I
Speaker 3: see enough of the juicy stuff or whatever.
Speaker 2: I just wonder why jan Aiden is feeling such a
Speaker 2: need like I get if it was her husband. But
Speaker 2: this is Teresa's mm hmmmm hmm. Like clearly, Megan Edmonds
Speaker 2: didn't ask to say something. She was asked a question
Speaker 2: and she answered it from coming from an like her
Speaker 2: past husband. Allegedly she's said his narcissistic, So I think
Speaker 2: she was speaking from experience because she has picked poorly
Speaker 2: before HM and said that by the characteristics she knows
Speaker 2: from who she's been with, she sees those things in Louis.
Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering why Jen felt the need to comment.
Speaker 2: Is is she commenting because she really wants to have
Speaker 2: Louis back? Or she commenting because she wants us to
Speaker 2: talk about it, right, not us in particular, but anybody well.
Speaker 3: And I note that she is you know, from what
Speaker 3: I understand, she is friends with Teresa for sure, which
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that she necessarily has to defend you know,
Speaker 3: this situation. But I do know from what I know
Speaker 3: that they are friends. In regards to Megan's comment, I
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, we always get asked those questions,
Speaker 3: those uncomfortable questions, and I think, you know, there's always
Speaker 3: a way to answer it. Like, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: just felt like it had like a little exclamation point
Speaker 3: on it just sounded really like she said, like a
Speaker 3: slim back slim but like it just yeah, it was
Speaker 3: like a little heart and a paint for me, like Okay,
Speaker 3: you don't like him on the show, I assume you
Speaker 3: don't know him or whatever. I just felt like it
Speaker 3: was a little hard, like you could just say, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, from what I'm seeing on the show, I
Speaker 3: don't like that guy. Keep it moving, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It is what it is. I've met Louis,
Speaker 3: I went to their wedding. I've been around this man.
Speaker 3: I've had dinner with Teresa and Louie. And my experience
Speaker 3: with Louie is he is crazy about Teresa and Judice
Speaker 3: and she's crazy about him. And I love them together.
Speaker 2: And crazy in a good way. Crazy and it could
Speaker 2: be a bad.
Speaker 3: Way, in a good way, it was all love. Like
Speaker 3: I liked them together and like again, but I'm not
Speaker 3: in their business. I'm just their friend. I see them
Speaker 3: when I see them, and I've never gotten like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: Teresa should be careful. I'm getting bad vibes from this guy.
Speaker 3: I've never gotten anything from Louie except great vibe. So
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna leave it right there. And this is
Speaker 3: someone who's been around, so I'm not just looking at
Speaker 3: it on TV making Yeah, right, I'll leave it right there.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: I got it. I got it, Okay, then another watch
Speaker 2: What Happens Live is Garcel was on last night and
Speaker 2: you know, of course Andy Andy does all the things
Speaker 2: because you know, in the past Garcel called me a NAT,
Speaker 2: so of course he does the game called Teddy a NAT.
Speaker 2: But now I'm the one pet string you and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I will never live down the NAT thing. I'm watching
Speaker 2: it and Edwin's like, Teddy, what is a NAT?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Like, I think it's like a mosquito that he goes,
Speaker 2: Is it like a fly? And I said, not a fly.
Speaker 3: It's like in between a flying and mosquito. It's like
Speaker 3: do they bite, No, but they're annoying. They just here.
Speaker 3: You can kill. You can kill a fly. Net just
Speaker 3: kind of like it like when you think it's gone,
Speaker 3: it comes back, you know what I mean. I mean
Speaker 3: that tracks.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you gotta let it linger.
Speaker 3: Let it linger. That is. I saw it on my
Speaker 3: timeline and I never knew I would see the neat thing,
Speaker 3: but I never knew where it originated. So that was
Speaker 3: a moment I was like, oh it came from Garcel.
Speaker 3: I never knew that until oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's because every time I would hang out with Garcel
Speaker 2: she'd be nice to my face. And then in her
Speaker 2: confessional she goes, Teddy is like a gnat and everyone
Speaker 2: loved it, of course, and I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: so I'm a boring nat Welcome to my freaking life.
Speaker 2: But then Andy asked about Kyle and she said wow,
Speaker 2: and then says that it was a topic of conversation
Speaker 2: this season between her and Sutton.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Then, uh, this one, I actually I feel Garcela on
Speaker 2: this one. Garcela says Oliver was used on vander Pump Rules,
Speaker 2: which do you remember that backstory? So yeah, so like
Speaker 2: scanned of all it all. You know, Oliver was the
Speaker 2: precursor to all of that because he was the one
Speaker 2: that made out with Rachel Raquel.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, then, but I knew it was like something happening.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so on camera. I'm not speaking of anything
Speaker 2: that's off camera, so I'm not talking about her child
Speaker 2: that wasn't shown on television.
Speaker 3: This was right, You just expected what happened.
Speaker 2: So he made he They went to Vegas where he
Speaker 2: works or I don't know if he still works there,
Speaker 2: but where he worked, and Raquel and Laala both thought
Speaker 2: he was cute, and then they all met up at
Speaker 2: a club afterwards or bar or whatever, and Raquel and
Speaker 2: Oliver made out and then you know, a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks later, a week later, he comes into town and
Speaker 2: at the same time he comes into town, Oliver's uh
Speaker 2: mother of his children reaches out to Raquel.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I remember seeing on online.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and says yeah, okay. But either way, that's
Speaker 2: why I'm assuming she says he felt used because this
Speaker 2: is this was the start of everything that happened in
Speaker 2: regards to Raquel being you know, a hashtag mistress or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, like she is somebody you know that
Speaker 2: that I don't know who knows. It was all part
Speaker 2: of storyline. But then Garcel said she unfollowed La La
Speaker 2: on Instagram because of her comments about Oliver. She got
Speaker 2: sat at the same table as an LVP at the Gallas,
Speaker 2: so she and Oliver got out. She answers, I don't
Speaker 2: know when asked if the seating arrangement was on purpose.
Speaker 2: So this is all interesting because Garcel, I warned you,
Speaker 2: I warned you.
Speaker 3: You warned her? You did warn I did?
Speaker 2: I did? I warned her.
Speaker 3: Let me just say this because I am friends with Garcela.
Speaker 3: I've known her for years, and I think, you know,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you know, garcel handles
Speaker 3: herself with class. I don't think she's just looking for
Speaker 3: smoke with people just necessarily obviously you and her don't
Speaker 3: get along, or she didn't see it for you or whatever.
Speaker 3: But that's neither here nor there, Nor is it my pa.
Speaker 2: But it's not even that I dislike Garcela.
Speaker 3: It's just exactly, I just know, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, if she unfollowed someone, or you know, when
Speaker 3: it comes to our kids, it's included, it's off limits,
Speaker 3: and I would unfollow, block, mute whatever, anybody that I
Speaker 3: felt like I needed to if I was in my
Speaker 3: feelings or I needed to protect my kid, yeah, or
Speaker 3: if you don't.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just don't want to see it. You don't
Speaker 2: hello that part that I'm like, do what you need
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, he signed up, he went on the show,
Speaker 2: do what you gotta do. But I don't need to
Speaker 2: see it. I have no interest in seeing it.
Speaker 3: That's why I feel the same way. So you know,
Speaker 3: she you we're all gonna do what's in the best
Speaker 3: interests of the people that we love and want to protect.
Speaker 2: And also, you guys don't need to tag us in
Speaker 2: these things, like when you're coming for us on the
Speaker 2: internet or anybody.
Speaker 3: And sent it to us anyway, so you don't have
Speaker 3: to tag.
Speaker 2: You don't have to tag us. And then in the
Speaker 2: comments you don't have to tag us either. I do
Speaker 2: not need to be alerted. I'm sure I'll hear about
Speaker 2: it one way or another. And then this part she's
Speaker 2: getting a little bit of heat on but she says
Speaker 2: that Garcela says she knows who's behind the box, but
Speaker 2: will never say publicly. She says it was multiple people.
Speaker 2: She accused other people at reunion, but it wasn't shown.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if this is coming off of
Speaker 2: Diana's you know, where she ended up dropping the I
Speaker 2: think she dropped the charges or whatever it was, but
Speaker 2: she was found that it wasn't her or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming at this point Garcel doesn't even really want
Speaker 2: to talk about it. But I do think if you're
Speaker 2: going to say you know who it is, but you're
Speaker 2: not going to say, then it leads people to then
Speaker 2: come for other.
Speaker 3: Conversation going because now it's like we've forgot about it,
Speaker 3: and now it's like, wait, you know it is and
Speaker 3: what happened, like you know, it kind of picks it
Speaker 3: back up a little bit. Yeah, So I think.
Speaker 2: In that point you said, you know, Garcela isn't one
Speaker 2: to have, you know, to put smoke. But at this point,
Speaker 2: like if she really wants it to go away, she
Speaker 2: could have.
Speaker 3: Just said, you know, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it, or we figured
Speaker 2: it out or you know, it's over. I just don't
Speaker 2: want it to happen again. Like, but she what she
Speaker 2: did right there was so it can be create.
Speaker 3: It maybe been a sparkler that she threw for sure,
Speaker 3: But again I'm going to stand by my friend that
Speaker 3: you know, she's first of all, she's on Andy's show,
Speaker 3: so a lot of times we say stuffing like okay,
Speaker 3: I know hell, I mean, that's yea happens all the time.
Speaker 3: So again I feel like my girl moves with intention
Speaker 3: to really not go to what the smoke of. She
Speaker 3: is on a reality show. So now you know, every
Speaker 3: now and then you gotta throw a sparkle on the flame.
Speaker 3: I guess yep, really good today I'm dodging all these bullets.
Speaker 3: I know, you know what, Teddy, I will say this
Speaker 3: like when I like, I love this show and I
Speaker 3: love like giving my opinion on the show because I
Speaker 3: do feel like if anyone's ever been a housewife, this
Speaker 3: is certain things, like you know, we have empathy for
Speaker 3: it because we've been yeah, a lot of the same things.
Speaker 3: But when I tell you, like I was not giving
Speaker 3: Gina like a hard time on last week's episode, but
Speaker 3: you know, I definitely was like, Okay, she may be
Speaker 3: being a little judgmental, and I think she's like using
Speaker 3: like you know, I feel like she's being overly triggered
Speaker 3: by this whole thing. It's not really her thing, but
Speaker 3: or whatever. And then somebody, of course jumped in my comments.
Speaker 3: It's like, why are you like being so mean to Gina.
Speaker 3: I was like, what did I say about Gina? And
Speaker 3: I was like, and it's just me just standing on
Speaker 3: like what I feel. Yeah, after I watched the show.
Speaker 3: So it's I take my hat off to you to
Speaker 3: have this show you and Tamor, because it's like you're
Speaker 3: damned if you do, You're damned if you don't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you don't.
Speaker 2: Say anything, then you don't have an opinion.
Speaker 3: Because it's boring because you're not really just you know,
Speaker 3: really giving your true feelings and opinions about it. And
Speaker 3: if you do, you're like, oh my god, like get
Speaker 3: a life, Like why are you talking about them? Because
Speaker 3: you have podcasts?
Speaker 2: And you're because because we're getting paid to show me
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 3: Not for free, like you just want to like talk
Speaker 3: about I.
Speaker 2: Oh god, why are you doing this? I'm like for fun.
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean I do love it, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like work some days, and or like
Speaker 2: when ed when my husband leaves for work and I'm
Speaker 2: like putting, I'm changing out of my workout clothes, showering
Speaker 2: and putting my jam. He's on to watch four hours
Speaker 2: of Brava. He's like, must be nice. I'm like, is it.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: But getting into Orange County it starts off. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: really in a place like having a hard time because
Speaker 2: it starts out. Tarmra says Jin is not the only
Speaker 2: married woman that Ryan ft and her gym. Tarmra says,
Speaker 2: if she didn't care about Gin, she wouldn't have said anything. Okay,
Speaker 2: do you think this is something that maybe should have
Speaker 2: been mentioned off camera or do you think it had
Speaker 2: been mentioned off camera or do you think.
Speaker 3: Door for sure? If they are friends, she deserved a
Speaker 3: heads up, like the off camera heads up and you
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about where you say, hey, friend,
Speaker 3: there's a red dot on your head today, I have
Speaker 3: to tell you something. It's you're man. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: go into details, but I have to tell you something.
Speaker 3: We can have a bigger conversation later. I'm not gonna, like,
Speaker 3: you know, completely destroy you in the scene, but I
Speaker 3: gotta give you some information. And I want to tell
Speaker 3: you in the scene. Are you saying you know what?
Speaker 3: A lot of times girls will tell you what it
Speaker 3: is and say I have to tell you the scene too.
Speaker 3: However it is it's different for different shows. For me,
Speaker 3: I always try to stay pretty authentic in that moment.
Speaker 3: But if it's my friend, you better believe. I definitely
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I gotta I gotta drop something on
Speaker 3: you today, So Betty, and it's about A B and.
Speaker 2: C Beverly Hills. Most of the time you don't get
Speaker 2: a warning like the girls won't tell you, but I
Speaker 2: do remember there was one moment, like when Eric and
Speaker 2: I were having it out right before she did. I
Speaker 2: wish they would like show up what she kind of
Speaker 2: looks at me, and she like gives me the like
Speaker 2: like it's about it's happened. And if I could have
Speaker 2: gone back and realized, like maybe I wouldn't have cried.
Speaker 3: But don't she always like anytime the bread that was
Speaker 3: on my head, I can read the energy because I'm
Speaker 3: a good energy reader, and I'm like, because you know,
Speaker 3: everybody else would be prepped and I'd be, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: I always knew if I like was walking dinners, it's
Speaker 2: hard to tell when it's coming sometimes for me always
Speaker 2: on a land I know, but like a lot of
Speaker 2: the time i'd be like walking into something. I could
Speaker 2: always feel it. When I was walking into something, I'd
Speaker 2: be like walk, the door would start to open, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, the handle feels hot, it's gonna be mine.
Speaker 2: Like But what I did, what I didn't necessarily realize,
Speaker 2: was I thought that Jen, the way they've they've made
Speaker 2: us all kind of think about this is that Jen
Speaker 2: and Tamra were close friends, right, But I didn't realize
Speaker 2: they kind of had like a falling out prior.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know that, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Allegedly so yeah, yeah, so they this was something
Speaker 2: that I saw just by looking at both of their
Speaker 2: instas stories. So I guess Jen used to train at
Speaker 2: Tamra's Jen Tamar and Eddie's Jim. It's because they trained
Speaker 2: them for I'm gonna say whatever, the competition is wrong,
Speaker 2: but like body women's body building whatever. And then they
Speaker 2: have another mutual friend named Heather who also is at
Speaker 2: the gym, who also was good friends with Ryan, and
Speaker 2: there became issues, right, got it because of all this
Speaker 2: stuff that's playing out on the show now. But so
Speaker 2: going into the show, it's not like Tamar and Jen
Speaker 2: were super close at that point in time, so that
Speaker 2: at least gave me like, Okay, this makes more sense
Speaker 2: now because what we're meant to believe is Tamar's brought
Speaker 2: this girl in and now is just airing her dirty laundry.
Speaker 2: But really, it's like when they thought that, you know,
Speaker 2: Dury brought me in and then me and Duried are fighting.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I met her one time prior, Like, calm down.
Speaker 3: Okay, So now did I have that information what I
Speaker 3: think is good or what I would appreciate if I
Speaker 3: was in that position, if I was in Jen's position.
Speaker 3: Whatever information you have on my man, just give it
Speaker 3: to me all one time. Yes, just say he tried
Speaker 3: to if me, he tried to if everybody else and
Speaker 3: this person boom, that's it. Just clear the shoot the load,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and let me just
Speaker 3: process it with that. Like what I don't like is
Speaker 3: just rationing it out, like oh and just when you
Speaker 3: get past one hurt or you're like, oh, and by
Speaker 3: the way, he tried to sleep with you know this
Speaker 3: person too, You're like, so I can like processes and
Speaker 3: make the decision how I want to move with this man.
Speaker 3: Just give me the information at one time and be
Speaker 3: done with Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like I forgot about the fact
Speaker 2: that that it was rationed out. We didn't get all
Speaker 2: the jo But I think that's what ends up happening
Speaker 2: anytime you're at an event or doing anything like this.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're in Housewives, you you hope that
Speaker 2: you're going to give a little and then the other
Speaker 2: person is going to share because you've opened the door
Speaker 2: for them to do it so you don't have to
Speaker 2: be the But then when they don't open up, then
Speaker 2: you're like, damn it.
Speaker 3: Back on, you go back again. I'm gonna talk.
Speaker 2: About this tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Like I gave me the door, walk through it, and
Speaker 3: let us always the queen, Like I'd love to just
Speaker 3: open up the door, and then I would love for
Speaker 3: everybody else to really say the bad stuff, because I
Speaker 3: never felt comfortable dropping the bomb bombs, but I would
Speaker 3: be like, oh, put the bomb in place, but then
Speaker 3: you guys drop me because I don't want any party.
Speaker 2: I always had to drop the bombs and look where
Speaker 2: I'm sitting.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I dropping bombs and look at where
Speaker 3: I'm sitting. So we're both sitting here on the same
Speaker 3: podcast right now, So podcastle stir. Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2: Stop it. I can't say that this episode, I laughed
Speaker 2: a good amount, Like I when Tamra and Gin and
Speaker 2: Taylor go whitewater rafting and the guy's balls are hanging
Speaker 2: out and they're making the jokes about the spaghetti and
Speaker 2: meatballs and all that tears were coming out of my eyes.
Speaker 2: I feel like the rafts Guid's balls were simply hanging
Speaker 2: out because they was like, I need to get out
Speaker 2: of this raft with these three driving, like get me
Speaker 2: out of here. His balls were like escape.
Speaker 3: You know, that's always such a tricky situation because I've
Speaker 3: been in a situation where a guy had on like
Speaker 3: loose shorts or whatever and they're sitting and they're not
Speaker 3: conscious that guys don't sit with their legs close, and
Speaker 3: the balls might be showing, and it's like so uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: such an uncomfortable position to be in because you want
Speaker 3: to like say, you know, like if my breast popped out,
Speaker 3: which happens all the time. I always appreciate when people say, hey,
Speaker 3: you're nipples showings and the like. Yeah, but like I
Speaker 3: always felt like I'm just gonna act like I don't
Speaker 3: see this because I don't really want to have the
Speaker 3: ball conversation and say, hey, you're the balls are showing
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: But I would think, I mean, here's the thing. I yes,
Speaker 2: I always appreciate when somebody tells me I have food
Speaker 2: and my teeth and my boob's hanging out or anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean the other day, I freaking get home, like
Speaker 2: I'm like going through early menopause.
Speaker 3: I think and joined the club go ahead one time
Speaker 3: early I'm into it.
Speaker 2: Well, I get I'm on the airplane with my kids.
Speaker 2: I get home and I have a huge stain on
Speaker 2: my butt. And I go from my friend and I go, guys,
Speaker 2: I look at Edwin and the kids and everyone. I go,
Speaker 2: did I have this at the airport? And they're like yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, anyone gonna say it? And they were like, well,
Speaker 2: we didn't really have to say.
Speaker 3: You said you have a blood stain? Oh your butt?
Speaker 3: Like like ties a sweater around it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like do something like don't just let me aimlessly
Speaker 2: wander around. But I don't know. It is something different
Speaker 2: when it's like the opposite gender and it's their privates,
Speaker 2: it's a little no, it's.
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. I was really concerned about, like,
Speaker 3: you couldn't tell me that someone was not going to
Speaker 3: fall out of that wrath that whole time, because it
Speaker 3: was like my nerves were shot just watching it.
Speaker 2: I know whether he's telling them to row and none
Speaker 2: of them are rowing, or I was like, this looks frightening.
Speaker 2: And then but actually more frightening was watching the other
Speaker 2: women try to whatever they were doing, fly fishing, do
Speaker 2: not of them swim? I'm like, what's happening here? They
Speaker 2: all look it looked.
Speaker 3: Dangerous, Yeah it did, and not not to mention like
Speaker 3: they just don't. They're not going to balance either, Like
Speaker 3: I've never seen the watering group of like dizzy falling over,
Speaker 3: Like they weren't even like deep in the water. Like
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, you guys definitely didn't need to
Speaker 3: be why work because you guys can't even just stand
Speaker 3: in like two feet of water and throw a fishing
Speaker 3: pole out whatever it is I know.
Speaker 2: And then walking back, I mean all of it, I
Speaker 2: was like this, and I'm like they're not drinking at
Speaker 2: this point, so what's happening? But it was good. And
Speaker 2: then they do the favorite game when you sit down
Speaker 2: to a dinner and you talk about your highs and lows,
Speaker 2: which is it's like, you know, your favorite thing or
Speaker 2: what was one of your games, who's the prettiest?
Speaker 3: That's what set me in cow.
Speaker 2: Yes, So Shannon says she's so happy she got to
Speaker 2: reconnect with Tamra on this trip, and then Heather's low
Speaker 2: is that she feels left out now that Tamra and
Speaker 2: Shannon are friends again. Shannon gets emotional, saying she never
Speaker 2: thought this would happen, and so she's upset that Heather
Speaker 2: would say that, do you think Heather really cares about
Speaker 2: their friendship is or is more worried about her place
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 3: Hmm, Well, from what you know, so new to Orange County,
Speaker 3: So from what I can tell, I feel like Heather's
Speaker 3: a pretty solid character on the show. I do like
Speaker 3: her position on the show. I feel like she's definitely
Speaker 3: needed on the show. So I I like her on
Speaker 3: the show. So I don't know why she would feel
Speaker 3: that way. But you know, we only are as good
Speaker 3: as the season we're shooting itself. Always. I feel like
Speaker 3: most of us are always like, you know, are we
Speaker 3: coming back? Are we coming back? However, I feel like
Speaker 3: I don't feel like Heather was jealous per se. I
Speaker 3: just think it just sucks when you just kind of
Speaker 3: feel like the odd man out, because you know, I've
Speaker 3: been in that position where it's like you're glad that
Speaker 3: they made up, but then like they're sleeping in the
Speaker 3: bed together, like she wasn't invited to like be a
Speaker 3: part of that, and those little things kind of like,
Speaker 3: oh man, it's like I just think she just feels
Speaker 3: left out. I don't think it's like, man, I hate
Speaker 3: they got back together. Now I'm out. I just think
Speaker 3: she wants to be in the bed with them drunk too.
Speaker 2: I think she was, you know.
Speaker 3: She felt a little like they always.
Speaker 2: Say, three never works. Three just doesn't work. Doesn't work
Speaker 2: in relationships, doesn't work in friendships.
Speaker 3: Three could be problematic by the number three is an
Speaker 3: odd number because if you're the third person, you are
Speaker 3: literally the odd man out. Using it is what it is, and.
Speaker 2: I think that I can. I think what I'm just
Speaker 2: feeling like is she was a little intimidated when Tamor
Speaker 2: came back because of their past issues. When they you know,
Speaker 2: they were good friends and they had issues and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, like all of their ups and downs in
Speaker 2: the past. But I do feel like sometimes Heather feels
Speaker 2: isolated because she's she puts up so many walls. So
Speaker 2: then it starts, how can you get close to somebody
Speaker 2: if if you're always the fixer, if you're always the
Speaker 2: one you know that knows better, or that is done
Speaker 2: the most, or has the most money, it's always the
Speaker 2: upper the upper one. It's hard to connect.
Speaker 3: It's hard to Heather and Tamra two different personalities. Uh,
Speaker 3: Heather's guarded, guarded. Heather's guarded. Tamra has no Tamra's open books.
Speaker 3: She's all over the place. She just puts it all
Speaker 3: out there. She's like, hey, here, whatever, whatever, And I
Speaker 3: feel like Heather is the complete opposite of that. So
Speaker 3: I think, what the result is going to be accordingly
Speaker 3: to the person in that person's personality. Yeah, no, I agree, Like,
Speaker 3: you can't expect Tamra results.
Speaker 2: If you're not tamor you know, And I think, but
Speaker 2: the problem is when you and you know this because
Speaker 2: of what we were just talking about earlier. But the
Speaker 2: problem is now that Heather said it, I feel like
Speaker 2: it's going to be even a bigger divide because if
Speaker 2: you are a somebody that doesn't get fomar isn't that way.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I have a girlfriend and I have
Speaker 2: to tell her she's one of those people that she
Speaker 2: wants everybody to be included into everything, and I'm not
Speaker 2: that person. Like I'm I want like a one in
Speaker 2: one dinner catch up sometimes and even though we're a
Speaker 2: group of you know, five girlfriends, sometimes I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I just want to see this one are like. And
Speaker 2: it's not because I don't love you, it's because it's
Speaker 2: hard to have deeper, meaningful conversations if we're all there
Speaker 2: all the time. And I just had to tell her, like,
Speaker 2: that's that's my love language with my friends. It's like, yes,
Speaker 2: I love to do big group gatherings, but sometimes I
Speaker 2: like the one in one And it's not because I
Speaker 2: don't want to be with you, right, but I think
Speaker 2: but the problem is once somebody, you know, once you
Speaker 2: kind of lay that groundwork and then they keep coming
Speaker 2: for you, that's where then you start to pull away.
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering now if we're going to start to
Speaker 2: see Tamra and Shannon actually pushing Tamra away, I don't
Speaker 2: think they were doing I mean pushing Heather away now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how
Speaker 3: that plays out. It really is, I do say, I
Speaker 3: bo said. I do love love love love the Tamara
Speaker 3: and Shannon are back together. Yeah, Like it's great, Like
Speaker 3: I love their friendship and Heather will just have to
Speaker 3: figure it out. It does. I understand her fee.
Speaker 2: I understand her feelings, but I think she has to
Speaker 2: figure out who she really wants to be friends with
Speaker 2: and who she really wants to connect with and then
Speaker 2: build that. I mean, I think even Gina made a
Speaker 2: good point, she said, Heather said, I can't call you
Speaker 2: and I can't reach out to you. To Travis, she goes,
Speaker 2: but then Heather didn't check on me, and then Heather
Speaker 2: wasn't there for me. So it's like, if you want
Speaker 2: a closer friendship, you want to solidify these relationships, doesn't
Speaker 2: have to work in.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. I think what Heather
Speaker 3: has to figure out is, like I can see from
Speaker 3: watching her how she shows up as a mom. I
Speaker 3: just need to figure out how she wants to show
Speaker 3: up as a friend of these ladies, because you know,
Speaker 3: some people need a lot, some people need less. It
Speaker 3: just seems like, you know, she just needs to figure
Speaker 3: out how she fits in and how much she wants
Speaker 3: to give as a friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think even in that moment once she
Speaker 2: realized that they were hurt, you saw her like immediately go.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, shoot, yeah, what did I say? What did it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I didn't even Like I think she was
Speaker 2: just trying to say like I'm feeling a little left out.
Speaker 3: But I think this is her truth and I have honesty,
Speaker 3: and that's why I feel like it wasn't coming from
Speaker 3: a jealous place. I just feel like she just feels
Speaker 3: left out, and it sucks to feel left out when
Speaker 3: the people you've been hanging out with, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was her version of being vulnerable
Speaker 2: and then and then a bitter so, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Know she's like, I dam but I should have just
Speaker 3: stayed my strong guard itself lessen.
Speaker 2: I should have said I have no.
Speaker 3: Loaves, I'm going to have loaves. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then they were saying that they thought that she
Speaker 2: didn't bring up the stuff with Taylor because she didn't
Speaker 2: want it to be talked about again, which I always
Speaker 2: wonder when when people say that, they're like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I do we think that it was planned to not
Speaker 2: talk about it again, or you think just in the
Speaker 2: moment she was like, this is my low because this
Speaker 2: recently happened, Or do you think she really was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I just don't want to talk about my career stuff again.
Speaker 3: I think I mean, she kind of unloaded on t
Speaker 3: I think when she said what she had to say,
Speaker 3: she was probably just over it. And I think, honestly,
Speaker 3: from an emotional standpoint, her true love was probably, you know,
Speaker 3: feeling isolated from her friends, like once you like, I
Speaker 3: mean I'm the kind of person. Once I blow your
Speaker 3: head off and get it over with, I'm actually good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: no longer a low I said. Now, if you hurt
Speaker 3: my feelings and leave me out, then that makes me sad.
Speaker 3: That would be not actually getting in the closure I
Speaker 3: need from you saying something that hurt my feelings and
Speaker 3: me saying, hey, well that sucks, and you're an ASSHOLEE
Speaker 3: for saying it. We're good, you know, No, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Then we get home from the trip, which I feel
Speaker 2: like has been going on quite a long time. But
Speaker 2: I did I did enjoy it. I thought they did
Speaker 2: a lot of things. I like that all of them participated.
Speaker 2: Then we get to Tamor telling Eddie what Ryan Jen's
Speaker 2: boyfriend said about wanting to her at cut Eddie's well,
Speaker 2: my favorite part is Eddie's face when he goes, really,
Speaker 2: I why not know? And then he says he went
Speaker 2: over to Ryan's house and one of his friends told
Speaker 2: him that Ryan has a reputation for going after married women.
Speaker 2: This then remind this reminds Tamra of Brooks and Vicki
Speaker 2: all over again. Do we really feel like Ryan is
Speaker 2: at the level of Brooks level of deceit Brooks to
Speaker 2: give you backstory. Brooks pretended he had it cancer.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I did hear about that? Okay, okay got its.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think they are in different places, but
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I'm still trying to give Ryan
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, even though I did check
Speaker 2: snapchat and you can't what he's alleging happened with the
Speaker 2: dick pic can't happen. But I like Jen, So I'm
Speaker 2: trying to give Ryan the benefit of the down right
Speaker 2: right right, But I could be proven wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I gotta just see how this thing plays out.
Speaker 3: Right now. I'm team Gin, I'm team Love. It looks
Speaker 3: like it's a mess on that end, but I do
Speaker 3: like the way that Jin is handling everything because I
Speaker 3: would have lost my shit on these women a few
Speaker 3: episodes ago.
Speaker 2: To be hop Yeah, I have a feeling if she
Speaker 2: you know, I hope she does, but I hope she
Speaker 2: stays around a couple of seasons. I feel like once
Speaker 2: she gets comfortable, I think she's just first season. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like you get more in your feelings, you're more emotional,
Speaker 2: like you're inside of yourself, Like you you're so shocked
Speaker 2: that this is happening.
Speaker 3: Like there's nothing like first season, you turn up, you
Speaker 3: don't know what you're doing. You're like okay, and then
Speaker 3: you're like wait, like you don't even realize they're coming
Speaker 3: for you first season, Like you're.
Speaker 2: Like that's like, yeah, you're just even though you watch,
Speaker 2: even if you watch the show, you still have no
Speaker 2: idea what it actually is like. But the fan reaction
Speaker 2: has been good to her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you always go home going dammit, I should
Speaker 3: have said this when she said that. When did I
Speaker 3: say that?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: I respond this way? Like, I beat myself up all
Speaker 3: first season looking at the show, thinking what did I
Speaker 3: just look like I do in her headlights when this
Speaker 3: woman clearly insulted me.
Speaker 2: Like you're it's like, come on, my reaction. Time needs
Speaker 2: to get it together, wake up?
Speaker 3: All right, right, it'll be good to see what happens.
Speaker 3: And she makes it bag so.
Speaker 2: But then in TAM's confessional, she says that her and
Speaker 2: Jen and Heather used to be the trace of me
Speaker 2: gas like they used to all be close. I'm like,
Speaker 2: we need to get Heather on the show already, because
Speaker 2: all this talk.
Speaker 3: About Heather someone who's not on the show right now.
Speaker 2: My favorite part is Jen holding a mug that says
Speaker 2: be honest as Ryan, maybe telling a little bit of
Speaker 2: a fib that's that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's brilliant.
Speaker 2: I was like, uh huh ah and then like the
Speaker 2: dog even looks into the camera like can you believe
Speaker 2: this bullshit? I thought it was pretty great, but we'll
Speaker 2: have to see I want to still see it. I
Speaker 2: think thank God for Tamra and Jen because that is
Speaker 2: holding this season down because now we are back to
Speaker 2: talking about Matt Gina's ex husband.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean Travis seems does seem like a good guy.
Speaker 2: It made me really want Foe. I want them right now.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on sharing everything with your
Speaker 2: ex about your ex with your new I think, I think.
Speaker 3: For me, when I'm in relationships, it's good to have
Speaker 3: insight of people's backstories with past relationships, like especially if
Speaker 3: it was like traumatizing for them, right, I think we're
Speaker 3: I don't once you tell me what it is, if
Speaker 3: you're going to be true to every five minutes about it,
Speaker 3: that for me makes me feel like are you off
Speaker 3: this guy? Are?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What? Like, what's happening that makes it weird, like sharing
Speaker 3: and said, hey, this is my story, this is what
Speaker 3: it came from, this is what happened, this is what
Speaker 3: happened X. This really messed me up. Whatever harken or whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm with you now, I'm a work in progress.
Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, I mean that that's how I feel too.
Speaker 2: I mean a little bit. I was like, do we
Speaker 2: need to start calling gena broken foot because she's using
Speaker 2: Travis as a crutch, Like I'm wondering, like it's one
Speaker 2: thing to be upset, Like there are moments in my
Speaker 2: life where I will say, like, gosh, I'll have a
Speaker 2: moment where I'll think about my ex husband. Not because
Speaker 2: I'm sad, but I'm like, oh my gosh, that was
Speaker 2: such a fun time. That was like a situation. Most
Speaker 2: of the time, I don't need to share that information
Speaker 2: with Edwin.
Speaker 3: You go thinking about it as one part yeah, feeling
Speaker 3: I need to share is is. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's necessary either, but I will say, and
Speaker 3: his defendancy just seems like such a great guy, like
Speaker 3: he was just like no, it's fine, just you know,
Speaker 3: tell me what or whatever. But I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just think even if he's a sport about it, teddy,
Speaker 3: I just think that she should just have enough. It's like,
Speaker 3: I think the best thing to do is put you
Speaker 3: on another foot. Would she want to keep hearing about
Speaker 3: it if it's him?
Speaker 2: And then it made me sad when he goes, don't worry,
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. I'm too fat. No, I don't
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 4: No, I know, but he seems like a good guy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I feel like Gina's going through it a little
Speaker 4: bit when even when she says that she was triggered
Speaker 4: going to a church wedding because yeah, she saw a church.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to like belittle her triggering
Speaker 3: because it is a real thing, and I know, like
Speaker 3: you know that's real. Like I am triggered all the
Speaker 3: time by stuff as well.
Speaker 2: But I think triggered is a very strong word. Do
Speaker 2: sometimes things and maybe I'm a little overused, That's what
Speaker 2: I mean, like gaslighting, triggering, narsses, like we all throw
Speaker 2: all the worlds around so much.
Speaker 3: I think everyone's a narcissist at this point, now that
Speaker 3: I understand, I mean personality and disorder. That is love
Speaker 3: bombing you are love Like now I'm like, who's not
Speaker 3: a narcissist?
Speaker 2: Who's not one? I'm no one on Bravo, But either way,
Speaker 2: I think I think it's picking up. I'm liking the cast,
Speaker 2: I'm liking the dynamics.
Speaker 3: I want to see where it's gonna go with Gina
Speaker 3: because she's the one that I feel like I don't
Speaker 3: I want to know more about her and her her stuff,
Speaker 3: but in a less triggering way, you know. And I
Speaker 3: love this cast and I'm really falling in love with
Speaker 3: the show thanks to you guys, because I never really
Speaker 3: focused on and I watched it before, and I'm really
Speaker 3: becoming invested in these ladies. And it's it's it's fun
Speaker 3: because you know, it's always something. Great thing about these
Speaker 3: shows is you can always a little something and put
Speaker 3: it in your life and be like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I was kind of thinking something similar, or this happened
Speaker 3: to me the other day, and it's it's I always
Speaker 3: love the the conflict resolution part of it. Like I
Speaker 3: pass the drama and like what you know, how how
Speaker 3: people deal with being in clearly very uncomfortable situations where
Speaker 3: you know they're more than likely set up situation to
Speaker 3: get to the five and get out of it and
Speaker 3: actually still live a great life on and off the show, well.
Speaker 2: What I do. I also liked is that the fan
Speaker 2: thoughts when we checked on our Instagram, they were all
Speaker 2: positive in the way that like, I'm laughing, I'm enjoying this,
Speaker 2: this is fun, Like even though there is drama within it,
Speaker 2: it's nothing is so life altering or things that they
Speaker 2: don't already know right exactly. So I am appreciating the
Speaker 2: show and appreciating you. But that's it for today. I'll
Speaker 2: see you next week, all right, Bye you guys.
Speaker 3: Bye.