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Speaker 3: But today I have Tribe Task Purpose Founders and leadership
Speaker 3: with us today to talk about veteran awareness within yourself.
Speaker 3: And today I have Joshua Reddick and I have Mike Peyton.
Speaker 3: Mike is former Navy seal and josh is a US
Speaker 3: Army twenty three year veteran. And let him introduce himself
Speaker 3: and Mike. Let's go with Mike first. Mike, Welcome to
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up really? How you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey? Welcome back? Welcome back? So maybe Seals?
Speaker 4: Which rabbit hole would you like to go down?
Speaker 2: So? Which what did you do?
Speaker 5: Almost twenty two years and the seal teams are retired
Speaker 5: in December of twenty one, I spent time. I started
Speaker 5: with teammate, then went over to dev group for a minute,
Speaker 5: and then went over to group level and retired out
Speaker 5: of group two. So or at the group level, and yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean in my career, I was a lead breacher.
Speaker 5: I went into the Intel arena, I was a team
Speaker 5: leader like through Iraq and O eight and then put
Speaker 5: on chief in the Intel space and retired as a
Speaker 5: senior chief.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so Senior Chief petty officer, is that correct
Speaker 3: with the navy?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: As a lead breacher, and my understanding is that the
Speaker 3: guy that has like maybe bolt cutters on his back
Speaker 3: and like maybe a shotgun that can blow off the
Speaker 3: door hinges. Possibly the guy on the front with like
Speaker 3: a rake or what. Tell me what a lead breacher do.
Speaker 5: We have everybody else caring the tools and we just
Speaker 5: we tell them what to do with the tools.
Speaker 4: But I mean we carry like primary.
Speaker 5: Explosives, secondary charges in the shotgun and like that. Those
Speaker 5: are our modalities, are our weapons that we utilize for
Speaker 5: breach points. So yeah, I mean we'll go up and
Speaker 5: do if the team lead says, let's do explosive breach
Speaker 5: or let's do a mechanical exothermic or shotgun ballistic breach,
Speaker 5: then you know, we'll determine which one and preferably like
Speaker 5: you do that prior to in the mission planning, you
Speaker 5: come up with that, and the lead breacher has ultimate
Speaker 5: authority on the primary entry points. So if he's like, Nope,
Speaker 5: we're switching to explosive, or no, we're not doing explosive,
Speaker 5: We're going exothermic or whatever like that, lead breacher will
Speaker 5: have the decision making process.
Speaker 2: There is exotherma. I'm not saying that thermid it's kind
Speaker 2: of like it's.
Speaker 5: Like a torch or yeah, you could go thermite if
Speaker 5: you have to burn through steel or something like that.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah.
Speaker 5: So lead breacher's responsibility is to get through an entry
Speaker 5: way in the shortest amount of time possible. So it
Speaker 5: could be concrete, reinforced concrete, it could be two inch steel, aluminum, whatever,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, and that's our mission.
Speaker 4: That's our job.
Speaker 3: So now that you got out, are you like a
Speaker 3: construction contractor going all these depths different type?
Speaker 4: Maybe turn this over to whomever else and go that direction.
Speaker 3: You know, you're cements only about you know, six satchels
Speaker 3: thick bro I don't know if that's gonna work or not.
Speaker 5: I mean, we do wall charges and teaching the guys
Speaker 5: at the time how to do wall charges, not to
Speaker 5: stick it on the wall and blow bay ass holes
Speaker 5: in it.
Speaker 3: So you know, today's video game kid playing all these things.
Speaker 3: That's how I know thermite personally, right, I've grown up.
Speaker 3: These video games they got thermite in them. Kids are
Speaker 3: hucking symtechs. You know, they're all doing these different knife
Speaker 3: throws across the map. That's the Tomorrow's you.
Speaker 5: My son plays those games, so like I'm well aware
Speaker 5: of what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and so it's like you know we're talking
Speaker 3: to them right now. That's why I'm like, hey, break
Speaker 3: down that exo thermal?
Speaker 2: What is that again? Is that thermite? And some dudes
Speaker 2: are out there like, yeah, rad is that thermite? Interesting?
Speaker 2: It can be like he.
Speaker 5: Can burn through like whether that burns at what two
Speaker 5: thousand degrees or something crazy with that? Yeah, and then
Speaker 5: a torch or not two thousand. I think it's like
Speaker 5: ten thousand degrees. Yes, it's incredibly hot, and so if
Speaker 5: you gets slag on you, you're gonna burn through the
Speaker 5: skin pretty quickly, which I have scars from.
Speaker 3: I think they use thermite to repair railroad ties, like
Speaker 3: in a buying the like thermite on top of it
Speaker 3: to form a so hot dude, that's crazy, yeah right right?
Speaker 3: The cool toys that dev grew and Seal Team guys
Speaker 3: have over there. So dev grew is a development group, right,
Speaker 3: dev grew stands for development group. So you guys sometimes
Speaker 3: have first shot at the toe with the test right.
Speaker 4: It's R and D.
Speaker 5: So you're researching and developing certain a weapon system or what,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're R and D and there and then it's coming
Speaker 2: to you your teams.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they just and then whatever that first
Speaker 5: line of gear is or equipment, then it funnels back
Speaker 5: through eventually to the other Seal teams.
Speaker 4: So, but they're the R and D, T and E
Speaker 4: team essentially.
Speaker 3: Right, and dev grew dev grew would and not to
Speaker 3: get too tight into this, but devre would and Compass
Speaker 3: also like Seal Team six.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, so it all falls under Jasck so jasock
Speaker 5: man and which is its own little animal? Really interesting
Speaker 5: to navigate, We'll say that much. But it was quite
Speaker 5: the quite the experience, I'll say that much.
Speaker 3: You know, Virginia Beach has a lot of cool trees
Speaker 3: though along those friendways.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: As I'm driving along there and I'm like, dang, they
Speaker 3: sit there and do war games in those I said,
Speaker 3: I want to do war games because I do war
Speaker 3: games for real here in Utah all the time, and
Speaker 3: you guys are doing war games for real for real
Speaker 3: Zia's I get that, but we still like the terrain.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just like so cool all those trees,
Speaker 3: mansld blind up moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, So let me let me segue over to
Speaker 3: your partner here. I believe he is the chairperson for
Speaker 3: try task purpose. Say it like I mean it, Okay,
Speaker 3: And this is Josh Reddick, us army veteran twenty three years.
Speaker 3: Somewhere in there. I think there's a commander title, but
Speaker 3: I'll let him explain that.
Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Josh, and talk to us. Tell
Speaker 3: us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me on RAD.
Speaker 7: So, like you said, twenty three years, started off as
Speaker 7: enlisted medic and then ended up getting my commission and
Speaker 7: then commanding a medical unit for twenty years, and then
Speaker 7: switched over to civil affairs about three years ago, and
Speaker 7: got connected by the way, my history, my time in
Speaker 7: the military nowhere nearly nowhere near his pool is Mike's.
Speaker 7: Mike's got all the fun stuff. I just kind of
Speaker 7: your grunt doing the basic stuff. But what was really
Speaker 7: cool about how all this kind of came connected and
Speaker 7: whether or not you believe in the higher power? I
Speaker 7: listened to this show last year, and funny enough, Mike
Speaker 7: and I used to run cross country together in high school,
Speaker 7: and just the week before I'd been talking to a
Speaker 7: mutual friend of ours ask if he knew what happened
Speaker 7: to Mike, And there were all these rumors about how
Speaker 7: he became a Navy seal, but nobody really knew what
Speaker 7: happened to him.
Speaker 6: And then you know.
Speaker 7: All the way in Arizona, listen to your show and
Speaker 7: hear Mike Paine's voice on the show. Now, the cool
Speaker 7: thing about all this is where we really connected is
Speaker 7: on the civilian inside. I'm a CEO of a medical
Speaker 7: group that does physical medicine and rehab and works in
Speaker 7: pain management. So we have a lot of people that
Speaker 7: have addictions to fenyl or you know, name your opioid.
Speaker 6: So I call Mike if he needed help.
Speaker 7: With anything, just let me know, because I work on
Speaker 7: both sides of that, for the military as well as
Speaker 7: the civilian side.
Speaker 6: And that's how we got connected. But it was through
Speaker 6: Soft Rep Radio funny enough, so.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 7: There's a power to the airwaves and the networking aspect
Speaker 7: of it all.
Speaker 6: So here we are today.
Speaker 2: It's all about just the one person that listens. You know.
Speaker 3: I learned that so long in radio, right, So when
Speaker 3: I worked in radio, back in like two thousand and two,
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, it was like you're not talking
Speaker 3: to everybody. You're talking to one person in a car,
Speaker 3: that one person, you know. And back in the day,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be able to really change the dial. Once
Speaker 3: you had a set, you had shit, And here's the everything.
Speaker 3: You're in the baseball game.
Speaker 2: Leave it. I got I got the channel.
Speaker 3: She's always listening, and so that that DJ needs to
Speaker 3: be like, hey to you out there that's listening right now,
Speaker 3: that that person right now, you who's listening to this
Speaker 3: about tribe, task and purpose. This message is to you,
Speaker 3: just like it was to Josh, just like you know,
Speaker 3: it's just going to be that way. I want it
Speaker 3: to be like that. So I'm so proud that you
Speaker 3: guys met regrouped if you will, through softwarep radio right
Speaker 3: the power of the airwaves. Like you said, if I
Speaker 3: have done anything on this show, this right here, that
Speaker 3: makes me it.
Speaker 4: Is awesome, man.
Speaker 5: And I can't even I can't express like how thankful
Speaker 5: I am with Josh and what he's done for the organization.
Speaker 5: Between the last conversation that we've had and now it's
Speaker 5: been we've we've had leaps and bounds with opportunity and
Speaker 5: with like our programs actually evolving into what it is
Speaker 5: today and how much impact we're having, like on helping folks.
Speaker 3: Well, tell us a little bit about that impact that
Speaker 3: you're having, Mike, tell us about why you felt the
Speaker 3: need to team up with Josh to push tribe task
Speaker 3: purpose to this level. What's what was going on in
Speaker 3: your head to get here?
Speaker 5: So I'll talk about inception. So I actually had inception
Speaker 5: about three years ago. I was in an impatient rehab
Speaker 5: program because I had a problem with I'll call and
Speaker 5: I couldn't quit, so I had a chemical dependency, couldn't
Speaker 5: quick long story short, I had an intervention my brother,
Speaker 5: who was also a frog but he's still active duty.
Speaker 5: He had to call Warcom, which is a one star
Speaker 5: admiral and a forced Matter chief, to get me into
Speaker 5: rehab the next day. So I was way off. I
Speaker 5: was bad, but all said, like, I get there. So
Speaker 5: I get to the program itself, and about a weekend,
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is not for guys like me at all,
Speaker 5: because my thing is like yeah, I because I kept saying,
Speaker 5: you know, focus on your addiction, focus on your addiction,
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, but I got PTS, I got TBIs,
Speaker 5: I have injuries and are laying me on a two
Speaker 5: inch mattress for you know, overnight, and I wake up
Speaker 5: with just in critical pain. You know, I had to
Speaker 5: work out in the morning just to get my blood
Speaker 5: flowing instead of the I was doing two days out there,
Speaker 5: because that's the only thing that was keeping me. Saying
Speaker 5: all that to say though, the inception of I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: we need a program that's specific, designed and tailored to
Speaker 5: special forces or specops, operators and first responders. Well at
Speaker 5: the time, it wasn't first responders. It was just specops.
Speaker 5: That was the initial inception piece of it. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, prive task and purpose. Prive task and purpose.
Speaker 5: The title is what actually resonates with most people. And
Speaker 5: the acronyms TTP, tactics, Techniques and procedures, that's what that's
Speaker 5: the acronym that we use in the teams, and so
Speaker 5: that's why it resonates with the operators. But what we've done,
Speaker 5: what this has evolved into, is a christ centered and
Speaker 5: holistic approach to heal addiction. And it's for commandos and
Speaker 5: first responders. And if you're looking at the spectrum of addiction.
Speaker 5: There's three phases. There's preventative care, there's impatient like what
Speaker 5: I went through, slash intensive outpatient, and then there's continuing care. Well,
Speaker 5: what TTP is is we're in the continuing care platform
Speaker 5: right now. So we'll get guys and women, actually, we'll
Speaker 5: get both of them into the program post let's say
Speaker 5: impatient or post intensive outpatient, or we can actually during
Speaker 5: the intake we'll make an assessment on somebody that's like
Speaker 5: they just can't quite quit drinking, but they don't need
Speaker 5: the inpatient program, So we'll make that call on scene
Speaker 5: with our providers and our medical doctors and whatnot during
Speaker 5: the intake phase.
Speaker 3: And that's a deal, right, because some people may feel
Speaker 3: like I don't want to be you know my you
Speaker 3: almost got straight jacketed into this situation. Let's just be
Speaker 3: a open about it, right, Okay, They're like, you're going
Speaker 3: and you're just commanders, people involved, you out of your
Speaker 3: your going. Somebody out there may feel like, oh, I
Speaker 3: don't want to do that, but I need to do this,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to do that. So you're like, hey, look,
Speaker 3: you may not need to do that. You can reach
Speaker 3: out and see if you just need to come to
Speaker 3: the inpatient outpatient style program where you're just like working
Speaker 3: with us. We're working with you, We're saying, hey, did
Speaker 3: you earn your batch this month? You have eighteen days
Speaker 3: left to go?
Speaker 2: Did you get it?
Speaker 3: You know that kind of motivation, right, That's a cool
Speaker 3: thing for them out there to also consider.
Speaker 2: It's not just always I mean, if you need to go,
Speaker 2: you got to go.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm definitely not throwing them under the bus
Speaker 5: because like, we fall in a certain category within addiction
Speaker 5: and we need those organizations out there that have that
Speaker 5: inpatient system in place in an order we have to
Speaker 5: have that. And I needed it. I just didn't need
Speaker 5: that one, but I did need a program, just not
Speaker 5: that one. And so you know, objectively looking at it,
Speaker 5: you know that's where you know we fall in this
Speaker 5: space and that's great, and so shifting gears a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have.
Speaker 5: It's a one year program broken up into three phases.
Speaker 5: Phase one is at is thirty days and we focus
Speaker 5: on IV infusions. Wait, let me backtrack, So intake is
Speaker 5: four weeks prior to phase one. Intake, we do blood panels,
Speaker 5: we do GI tracks, we look at heavy metals and
Speaker 5: we make a baseline on the individual so that way
Speaker 5: we can tailor our program to their needs. We don't
Speaker 5: blanket anything. We don't have a blanketed approach. We have
Speaker 5: an individualized, tailored approach. So when the mds or the
Speaker 5: doctors look at their at their blood and whatever, they're like, hey,
Speaker 5: we need to throw X amount of B vitamins at them,
Speaker 5: or we need to detox them from heavy metals or whatever.
Speaker 4: That protocol is. That's what they make the assessment.
Speaker 5: That's why it takes so long, thirty days prior to
Speaker 5: the actual programs starting. So going into phase one, we
Speaker 5: focus on physical and physiological normalcy.
Speaker 4: So we based on it, we zero themount. It's essentially
Speaker 4: a biohack.
Speaker 5: And what we do is we focus on IVY infusion
Speaker 5: or a drip therapy in collaboration with h BOT, in
Speaker 5: collaboration with US Century deprivation tanks, physical therapy and fitness
Speaker 5: and all these are professionals that like we have as
Speaker 5: service providers. Everybody has a master degree or above. Not
Speaker 5: that you need degrees, but it is definitely a verification
Speaker 5: for what they the level.
Speaker 3: Right, it's good to have a subject matter expert over
Speaker 3: the subject right that you're going to be if you're
Speaker 3: going to go be put under, you might all have
Speaker 3: an anesthesiologist do it. So you know, if you've got
Speaker 3: someone that knows about sensory deprivation machines, then that's probably
Speaker 3: the person to be working on deprivation.
Speaker 4: I definitely want Johnny the jump master at the door.
Speaker 4: I don't want my E five watching.
Speaker 3: Me unless he's a jump master, so unless he does yeah,
Speaker 3: because it's like it's like it's like having someone do
Speaker 3: your job that doesn't.
Speaker 4: Tell you that.
Speaker 2: So that's why, Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna fake it, luck.
Speaker 4: But we're just gonna wing this thing. Sure, So that's
Speaker 4: what we're you know, we're.
Speaker 5: Trying to we eliminated or minimized the winging of it,
Speaker 5: and we're actually tailoring it. And so that's why so
Speaker 5: imperative to have like the proper therapists, the proper mds,
Speaker 5: the proper PhDs, the proper you know, person in the
Speaker 5: right spot, just like you said, and that's what we have,
Speaker 5: you know, with with our partnerships and with our affiliates
Speaker 5: and providers, like they're all top notch, top level. So
Speaker 5: breaking that up, Phase two, we start focusing. So once
Speaker 5: we get them zeroed or bio hacked and zeroed out
Speaker 5: because most of them are coming with operator syndrome anyways,
Speaker 5: and there's so many other organizations out there they deal
Speaker 5: specifically with that, but we do it too just to
Speaker 5: just to zero them out because we're focused on addiction.
Speaker 5: But we got to zero them out. We got to
Speaker 5: get a good, solid baseline. Once we do that, and
Speaker 5: once they're feeling good and filling a whole, and after
Speaker 5: that we focus on the therapy modalities and that's group, individual,
Speaker 5: and family therapy sessions and they got twelve weeks of
Speaker 5: that and that's phase two and that actually goes into
Speaker 5: the twelve step program which we're utilizing Recovery for Life
Speaker 5: with doctor Paul Hardy.
Speaker 4: And Paul Hardy he's local.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's Providence, right, but he's a local provider
Speaker 5: here and that twelve step program is more closer to
Speaker 5: like a celebrate recovery.
Speaker 4: And you know, here's the other thing.
Speaker 5: If that doesn't resonate with the individuals going through the
Speaker 5: program and they want to go to a twelve step AA.
Speaker 4: Program, then fine, do it man, have a good time.
Speaker 5: Or if it's smart recovery that they want to do
Speaker 5: awesome or if it's celebrate recovery that they want to
Speaker 5: do fantastic.
Speaker 3: But the operator syndrome, I mean, that's a you know,
Speaker 3: the first person I've heard like say that. You know,
Speaker 3: it actually makes total sense for it because there is
Speaker 3: an operator syndrome. You guys are doing a specific job
Speaker 3: and it's not just like and there's there's guys. When
Speaker 3: I say you guys, I mean everybody. Okay, let me
Speaker 3: be let me be clear and put that out there
Speaker 3: preface this, but but you know, the operator syndrome is
Speaker 3: like it makes sense to have somebody like yourself who could.
Speaker 4: Talk like that's a whole idea behind it, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Actually, I just caught onto when you're saying operator syndrome, Like,
Speaker 3: dude's trying to help people with the same things that
Speaker 3: you've dealt with, Right, It's like there's other places that
Speaker 3: other people can go to for other things, but your
Speaker 3: operator syndrome just kind of stands out. And especially with
Speaker 3: my people that listen, there's a lot of vets out there.
Speaker 3: So I just want to coin that, you know, awesome, bro,
Speaker 3: operator syndrome.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, so to go on a little tangent real quick,
Speaker 5: what conventional models don't realize, Well, let me rephrase that.
Speaker 5: What some conventional models don't realize is the.
Speaker 4: Person that they're bringing in.
Speaker 5: They're bringing in these high functioning individual with an IQ
Speaker 5: on an average of about one point thirty, so like
Speaker 5: very intelligent, very like it's just a different breed of people,
Speaker 5: not better or not worse, just different on average.
Speaker 2: Though you said on average, I'm just kid dah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fair on average.
Speaker 5: And so what we're doing is like we're nicheing it
Speaker 5: out for those individuals. And here's the other thing is
Speaker 5: like that includes first responders and when it comes to trauma,
Speaker 5: these dudes, those individuals see so much crap. They see
Speaker 5: the worst of humanity on a daily basis. So that's
Speaker 5: where it's like we got we got to bring them
Speaker 5: into the fold also, you know, like you know, and
Speaker 5: we need to heal them as well because we need them.
Speaker 5: We need them to be out there doing the job
Speaker 5: that they're doing, and we need them at full functioning capabilities.
Speaker 5: And so most organizations or some like rehab organizations don't
Speaker 5: understand that maybe or maybe they do, but they don't
Speaker 5: have they can't have that focus intently. So that's why
Speaker 5: we come up with this program to focus on the
Speaker 5: high functioning individuals.
Speaker 4: And that's you know, typically.
Speaker 5: Your specops guys and first responders folks and doctors and
Speaker 5: attorneys and everything else, which I can talk about that offline,
Speaker 5: but for TTP specifically, Yeah, that's what we did. And
Speaker 5: so to digress a little bit, when I was going
Speaker 5: through my program inpatient program, the thing that they didn't realize,
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I get it, Like I'm physically addicted
Speaker 5: to all call. I cannot fix that. But what I
Speaker 5: do know is that it's a coping tool for these
Speaker 5: other things that are going on in my life. Like
Speaker 5: I hit a perfect storm of life and it's just
Speaker 5: I just try to use this as a coping mechanism
Speaker 5: and I got addicted to it. But let's focus on
Speaker 5: the PTS portion of it. Let's focus on my family
Speaker 5: falling apart. Let's focus on my bankruptcy at the time.
Speaker 3: What it is that's making you want to take that
Speaker 3: and like just like try to push everything else away,
Speaker 3: because that's what you're doing when you're hitting that bottle.
Speaker 2: It's just like a fit today.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna like go into this bottle and this bottle
Speaker 3: is going to take me home wherever that is, and
Speaker 3: you're going to be on the floor when you wake up.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's like what you've dealt with is
Speaker 3: you found your inner self and you kind of battled
Speaker 3: yourself and you figure out what it is that's causing
Speaker 3: you to want to do that, and that's where you
Speaker 3: have to start fixing yourself.
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 4: And so that's that's exactly right.
Speaker 5: But it first comes with an awareness and a personal
Speaker 5: awareness like I'm all jacked up. I need help, you know,
Speaker 5: and I can't do it alone. And that's what we're here.
Speaker 5: We don't throw stones, man, And not only do we
Speaker 5: fully fund the program, like the individuals that come here,
Speaker 5: like they don't pay a penny, Like we completely cover
Speaker 5: them number one, number two, like we're there for them.
Speaker 4: Number three, Like.
Speaker 5: We don't share their information with the commands if they're
Speaker 5: coming from a command, like that's hip A violations and
Speaker 5: we protect We protect that exclusively or entirely. Like you
Speaker 5: want their their stuff, fine, but you're gonna have to
Speaker 5: get a court order then because we're not giving it away.
Speaker 2: They'll have to tell you themselves.
Speaker 3: Right, it's like what they want to tell you, they
Speaker 3: could tell you, but otherwise yeacause that's.
Speaker 2: So said my listener, your your future help who you're
Speaker 2: going to help here?
Speaker 3: How do they come to Tribe Task Purpose? Like, you know,
Speaker 3: we keep saying those three, those three, the three words
Speaker 3: Tribe Task Purpose.
Speaker 2: Well, how do we Well, we.
Speaker 4: Have a website. We got a website trib Taskpurpose dot org.
Speaker 5: You can contact us via online or we have social
Speaker 5: media platforms also that if you want to, you know,
Speaker 5: follow us or friend us on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, that's
Speaker 5: you know, we have those platforms as well. But on
Speaker 5: the website itself, like that is my personal number, so
Speaker 5: I'll take the call personally and that's my personal email.
Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
Speaker 3: So exactly, so Tribe Task Purpose, just go check it out.
Speaker 3: Hit up you know, Mike, if you want to reach
Speaker 3: out the internet social media, have you guys adopted the
Speaker 3: new social media threads well out there taken off? Have
Speaker 3: you guys check out on that yet? Oh it's called threads. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's through Instagram and through Instagram. Yeah, you should write
Speaker 3: that down. It's blown up. Yeah, they just had seventy
Speaker 3: million registered users.
Speaker 2: In two days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I don't like to date my shows,
Speaker 3: but this is when Threads just came out. So if
Speaker 3: you're listening to it, go get a thread and follow
Speaker 3: me uh.
Speaker 2: Soft reps on there too.
Speaker 3: But I mean really, it's like usually if you go
Speaker 3: to your Instagram, it says, hey, we invite you to
Speaker 3: come open your account and threads and you go there
Speaker 3: and it's now supposed to be just like you leave
Speaker 3: a couple of blurbs of what you want to say
Speaker 3: and a photo and attachment and it's just real simple.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: And it's just you know, another another avenue for you
Speaker 3: to reach somebody, right, it just takes That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm just throwing it out there. And if
Speaker 2: you're not on Threads, hit me up Instagram or all
Speaker 2: that stuff too, and I'm out there. Yeah yeah, no
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: But again with trib task purpose, is there anything in
Speaker 3: there with like recreational therapy for these guys?
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to say that I'm for it
Speaker 5: and I'm not against it either. In my theory is this,
Speaker 5: we don't want to substitute one edition for another. However,
Speaker 5: there's always positive feedback loops and and with positive.
Speaker 2: Snowboarding. That's I want to make sure you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I mean.
Speaker 3: Size recreational like you know other as I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to go down any I'm saying, like rock climbing, like
Speaker 3: being with nature.
Speaker 4: Oh got it?
Speaker 3: That kind of a recreational therapy that got that the
Speaker 3: VA doesn't seem to give us. You have to be
Speaker 3: like eighty ninety percent rated to get recreational therapy at
Speaker 3: the VA. Right, So here we have veterans who are
Speaker 3: dealing with substances and they would like to not get
Speaker 3: They would rather have thrills before pills because what do
Speaker 3: you call it? Operator syndrome? These guys are all high
Speaker 3: speed high IQ. You're doing two days, you're like working out,
Speaker 3: trying to keep your mind free and clear. Why can't
Speaker 3: the VA prescribe weight systems for us or like you know,
Speaker 3: here's here's a snowboard prescription. Go to rat Snowboard shop
Speaker 3: and get a snowboard.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent on board with what you're saying, And yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, we don't have that internal. But what we
Speaker 5: do is one of our modalities is getting on the
Speaker 5: farm for a week and just working with our hands again,
Speaker 5: you know, like that's so important that people lose it,
Speaker 5: that they lose that with you know, the job requirements
Speaker 5: and all that. You know that I get it, like
Speaker 5: understand that, but we have to reset and that's one
Speaker 5: of the modalities that we utilize. Another one is working
Speaker 5: with our hands, you know, just forming still into blades,
Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that. So that's another modality that
Speaker 5: we use. And that's another week long within the first phase.
Speaker 3: Like working with some earth and just making it into
Speaker 3: something and just like creating it out of you know,
Speaker 3: out of your own heart and passion and your own energy.
Speaker 3: It's like people who go and get their own food, right.
Speaker 3: I may be I may live a vegetarian lifestyle and
Speaker 3: try for that, But those guys that go out and
Speaker 3: hunt a deer, I got respect for that too, because
Speaker 3: they're bringing it home, they're doing the whole work, they're
Speaker 3: dressing it, they're doing everything to that.
Speaker 2: I got no problem with where they want to get
Speaker 2: their food. They got no problem with where I want
Speaker 2: to get my food. Kind of attitude. Right, we just
Speaker 2: live in this world, It's true. Yeah. Plus I talked
Speaker 2: some pretty hardfol hunters bro. Oh yeah, like you.
Speaker 4: They're out here.
Speaker 3: Dead Drew hunting one oh one.
Speaker 5: Absolutely man, And well, yeah, it's all about tracking, right
Speaker 5: and it's all, yeah, we're going on rabbit holes.
Speaker 4: But uh I love one team.
Speaker 2: The way, are we though? Are we?
Speaker 3: That's what we're all about here, bro, this is what
Speaker 3: trib tasking purposes.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like, let's let's just pull our guys in and say, hey,
Speaker 3: let's go get off topic at try tasking purposes and
Speaker 3: figure ourselves out with these.
Speaker 5: That's what we do, man, We're figuring it out with them.
Speaker 5: And so that's the biggest thing. It's just we're there
Speaker 5: with them, like we I've got We've gone through it.
Speaker 5: So like let's like I was the guinea pig to
Speaker 5: this this program, and that's where you know, it was
Speaker 5: a very clunky thing at first because I was trying
Speaker 5: to figure it out. But the guys when they come
Speaker 5: back to me after let's say, all the guys so
Speaker 5: far minus one has you know, we have an eighty
Speaker 5: percent success rate within the first year of relapse. Like
Speaker 5: the conventional models there's a ninety percent relapse within the
Speaker 5: first year. We have an eighty percent success rate within
Speaker 5: the first year. So we just flipped it upside down
Speaker 5: on its head. And you know, to me, that's a
Speaker 5: victory because it's all these individuals. They come back to
Speaker 5: me like, dude, I don't know how you figure this out, man,
Speaker 5: but thank you. I haven't felt this good in years, Like,
Speaker 5: thank you so much. I'm like, dude, Like, it's not me, man,
Speaker 5: it's everybody. We're doing it all together as a tribe,
Speaker 5: you know, and as it should be. And I you know,
Speaker 5: I won't claim fame or I'll own the mistakes, but
Speaker 5: I won't claim the success of it because it's not
Speaker 5: on me entirely. It's the whole entire team. Josh being
Speaker 5: one person of the team as well, and I couldn't
Speaker 5: do it without him. And you know, within the first
Speaker 5: year we've already raised over one hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 5: get people through the programs.
Speaker 4: I mean that's you know.
Speaker 5: As a startup, that's like that's divine, you know, that's
Speaker 5: that's like a providence.
Speaker 3: And you're open to more, right, You're willing to have
Speaker 3: people philanthropy more towards your organization too. So if there's
Speaker 3: a listener out there that's like, hey, you know, I've
Speaker 3: got to put something somewhere. I think this is a
Speaker 3: good organization. They can reach out to you and learn more,
Speaker 3: and if they want to put their money there, then
Speaker 3: so be it.
Speaker 2: Right yep.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know we're actually fixing. We're healing people. Man,
Speaker 5: We're not putting bannies on woms. You know, we're actually
Speaker 5: healing them. And that's you know, that's the difference.
Speaker 3: I think even the and the guy that goes through, like, uh,
Speaker 3: the guy you know that goes through, you know, a
Speaker 3: year of no alcohol and then relapses. You know, there's
Speaker 3: a year of a break of clarity in there that
Speaker 3: you know, that moment even is just a strong, powerful
Speaker 3: thing for that person because who knows what had happened
Speaker 3: in the year of unsurprised of just like being wasted.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, you try hard. You know, nobody's personally.
Speaker 4: No, dude, I don't throw stones, man, he could relapse.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't.
Speaker 4: I don't throw stones in glass. That's exactly right, because.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I could exactly right.
Speaker 4: Drop off the bus.
Speaker 5: You know, like, I have to be accountable to something else, man,
Speaker 5: something bigger than me. Otherwise, you know, I have that
Speaker 5: potential and like, is it my kryptonite shirt?
Speaker 4: Own it? I own it.
Speaker 5: And I'm like Roger that I can't drink so fine,
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: You know it is what it is, right exactly.
Speaker 3: And and and someone listening right now who may never
Speaker 3: even have come through your organization and never even went
Speaker 3: through an organization, tried to kick it themselves. You know
Speaker 3: that's right. You're strong. You can do it. I want
Speaker 3: you to know you can do it, and you can
Speaker 3: kick it. You know, if I could kick cigarettes after
Speaker 3: so long of smoking cigarettes, it's been seventeen years of
Speaker 3: mere smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2: Eighteen years. Yeah, And to this day, if.
Speaker 3: I get a whiff of a Marlborough, it goes right
Speaker 3: back to Malty Crew Metallica.
Speaker 2: I'm like, where's that at, dude. I'm like, let's go
Speaker 2: do seventh grade all over again, bro.
Speaker 3: Basement of Robbie's house parents ashtray full of our cigarette butts.
Speaker 2: Dude, It's like, what are we doing? Man?
Speaker 3: But back then they put that stuff so accessible to
Speaker 3: us as youth. It was just right on the counters
Speaker 3: at the circle k, swiping the people swiping packs of.
Speaker 2: Non filtered camp What are you doing? Bro? We're adults,
Speaker 2: is what we're thinking. We're cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, nah ah no, that's it. Man is targeting an
Speaker 5: audience for profits, right. And it's funny because it's so
Speaker 5: funny that you bring it up because when I was
Speaker 5: doing business school at Harvard and like one of the
Speaker 5: case studies was the Jewel Car case study to where
Speaker 5: they're targeting the youth to get addicted to their product,
Speaker 5: and so it came into the legal, ethic and economic
Speaker 5: piece of the Venn diagram. It's like, where do they
Speaker 5: fall in because at the time, it wasn't illegal for
Speaker 5: them to target that age group, or you know, it
Speaker 5: was just unethical. Well billions of dollars later in lawsuits,
Speaker 5: you have to stay within the parameters of ethical or
Speaker 5: not having ethical violations.
Speaker 4: That's the conclusion of the case study.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said, you got to get rid of Camel Joe,
Speaker 3: you got to get rid of the Marlboro Man. You
Speaker 3: got to get rid of you know, the fancy chick
Speaker 3: with the more cigarette on the back of the magazine.
Speaker 3: You know, the MoMA right, Okay, with the long breast.
Speaker 3: I mean those things are all advertised to us like, oh,
Speaker 3: we need to do it. But what's at the end
Speaker 3: of it, it's somebody's profits. They're profiting off of our
Speaker 3: of addiction.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one hundred percent, right, And so all they
Speaker 5: care about is their bottom line and who's going to
Speaker 5: buy the most amount of their product. And so that's
Speaker 5: why they target. It's a marketing scheme, So it is
Speaker 5: what it is. But now they're want again, they're paying
Speaker 5: billions of dollars in lawsuits. Well, you shouldn't have targeted
Speaker 5: that audience or that demographic. And that's where you know,
Speaker 5: with us, you know, we're not like we have a demographic,
Speaker 5: but we're actually on the other side of it where
Speaker 5: like we're healing people, we're not trying to make a
Speaker 5: profit off of their failment, you know.
Speaker 3: Or now, Mike, with with with what we're talking about,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of other addictions other than just like alcoholism.
Speaker 3: Is there other opportunities for them to come and open
Speaker 3: up about these other addictions that they're dealing with with
Speaker 3: your organization right now?
Speaker 5: It's chemical dependency, So it's opioids and I'll call being
Speaker 5: the primary ones and man, I'll tell you their sons
Speaker 5: of bitches.
Speaker 4: Man, they're hard to manage.
Speaker 5: So that's why it's like, yeah, we'll focus exclusively on
Speaker 5: that right now until yeah, until we get a campus
Speaker 5: or infrastructure, our own brick and mortar. So where now
Speaker 5: we can start, you know, taper or we can start
Speaker 5: going off these little tangents of different arenas of addiction.
Speaker 4: But right now we're just focused on those chemical.
Speaker 3: Ones, chemical dependency and uh style and so, Josh, how
Speaker 3: do you feel now that you've been with these guys?
Speaker 2: What about a year now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, fair person, just over a year. No, it's a
Speaker 6: great program.
Speaker 7: And you know something I want to touch on that
Speaker 7: you brought up about listeners in the audience that don't
Speaker 7: necessarily need treatment but want to give back. I mean,
Speaker 7: the first word in our name is tribe because it
Speaker 7: does it takes a whole tribe. So it's not just
Speaker 7: it can be financial. I mean, Mike is big on
Speaker 7: the three t's, time, treasure, and talents. If anyone in
Speaker 7: the audience has time, treasure or talents they'd like to
Speaker 7: donate to the organization, we're we would love to have it.
Speaker 7: You know, as Mike pointed out, we raised one hundred
Speaker 7: thousand dollars in the first year, but we like to
Speaker 7: do more. There's a lot of people that need help,
Speaker 7: but you know, we need a community to help us
Speaker 7: do that. So right now, one of our biggest initiatives
Speaker 7: is just that, trying to recruit good talent, trying to
Speaker 7: raise funds, and finding people that really can put.
Speaker 6: The time in to make this work.
Speaker 7: The other thing I wanted to touch on, you guys
Speaker 7: are talked about the treatment style. I've been in in
Speaker 7: medicine for twenty three years and I've been working in
Speaker 7: pay management for sixteen of.
Speaker 6: Those years, and it's interesting.
Speaker 7: Most programs are set up in a way, and you
Speaker 7: guys talk about corruption, addiction, what reimburses the best by
Speaker 7: the government. The government ultimately dictates what treatments doctors do. Right,
Speaker 7: everything about TTP is different. It's thinking outside the box.
Speaker 7: But what I love about it, it's not putting pressure
Speaker 7: on a wound, it's not putting a band aid, it's
Speaker 7: trying to tourniquit.
Speaker 6: And that's what we're trying to do is reset the
Speaker 6: whole person.
Speaker 7: Let's get to the root of the problem and then
Speaker 7: treat that right there so that they can deal with
Speaker 7: their addiction or their triggers later on in life.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's very cool, right, Like some people don't need
Speaker 3: to put themselves in. They might have, you know, not
Speaker 3: the ability to go into a place to be you know,
Speaker 3: take they have to still work or function. There are
Speaker 3: functioning dare I say alcoholics out there that just get
Speaker 3: through life and can just manage themselves. There's functional all
Speaker 3: sorts of chemical dependency functioning yep, productive, yep. May not
Speaker 3: even think it's a problem, yeah, because they're like, I'm
Speaker 3: doing good, man. I don't know why I'm so hyper
Speaker 3: all the time and my heart rates out the roof,
Speaker 3: but I'm doing really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, you know, you look in.
Speaker 3: The mirror and you feel tired, and you feel like
Speaker 3: you've just done it too much. And that's how I
Speaker 3: felt with cigarettes. And I'm just going to use that
Speaker 3: as my kind of crutch of what a huge addiction
Speaker 3: quitting was. I just one day woke up and I
Speaker 3: didn't want to have a drag of it. I wanted
Speaker 3: to breathe without having a cigarette in my lungs for
Speaker 3: the morning. And then I went I said, that's how
Speaker 3: long I can see how long I can go today
Speaker 3: without having a smoke. But I didn't throw my smokes away.
Speaker 3: I didn't say I'm quitting forever. I just put them
Speaker 3: in my glove box and I left them in there
Speaker 3: with smokes in it, and if I wanted one, I
Speaker 3: was mad enough to say, I can have one. If
Speaker 3: I want one, I can make my choice, and I
Speaker 3: can also make a choice to not have one. And
Speaker 3: so I left them in my glovebox for about two years.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: They would always open up my glove box. There's that
Speaker 2: pack of smokes. I close it. I'd open it up.
Speaker 2: There's that pack of smokes. I was like, it's mine.
Speaker 2: I could do what I want with them, right, the
Speaker 2: reason why I didn't throw them away?
Speaker 4: And then you start building a resentment towards I have.
Speaker 2: To go buy new ones. Yeah yeah, yeah, well I
Speaker 2: have to give I'd have to get them. If I
Speaker 2: had them, I can do what I want with them.
Speaker 2: I haven't. There they are. I don't want them. I
Speaker 2: don't need them. There, you're right there, I'm staring at you.
Speaker 2: I don't even need you.
Speaker 3: That's how I felt, right, you know, And so it's
Speaker 3: like that's what kind of kicked me off. That addiction
Speaker 3: was just I wanted to breathe free that morning.
Speaker 5: It really was, you know, that's where the willingness comes
Speaker 5: in of individuals where it's like, Okay, they don't want
Speaker 5: it in their life anymore, or they at least want
Speaker 5: to break from it. And that's where we give them
Speaker 5: that opportunity to be like, all right, man, let's get
Speaker 5: some clarity in your thought process, get out of these
Speaker 5: positive feedback loops, and then make a determination after that.
Speaker 5: But never make a decision under distress. Like that is
Speaker 5: where you know a chemical dependency. You're under distress continuously
Speaker 5: from the moment that you wake up until the moment
Speaker 5: you go to bed at night.
Speaker 4: Which is pitty sleep in the first place.
Speaker 5: But the thing is is like, so not only are
Speaker 5: you getting deprived sleep, but you're also you're not thinking clearly.
Speaker 5: And then it becomes a compounding a negative effect or
Speaker 5: otherwise known as a positive feedback loop. And the and
Speaker 5: another thing that it does is it creates arrested psychological development.
Speaker 4: So a person.
Speaker 5: Gets stuck at the age of let's say fifteen, I'm
Speaker 5: just using that as an example, but like, they get
Speaker 5: stuck in this rut and they don't know how to
Speaker 5: evolve or actually how to grow and develop as an individual.
Speaker 5: So their EQ or their emotional intelligence is you know,
Speaker 5: way down here because they've never had to use that muscle,
Speaker 5: you know, And so their IQs might be one hundred
Speaker 5: and thirty, but their eques at you know, fifty points
Speaker 5: or whatever, and it's like, yeah, we gotta, we gotta,
Speaker 5: we got some work to do, you know.
Speaker 4: So no, it's not all about the chemical dependency.
Speaker 5: That is a coping mechanism for something else, and that's
Speaker 5: what we're trying to identify. And that's what we do
Speaker 5: identify with the individuals gone through this program.
Speaker 6: M Rip, have you ever read the book The Body
Speaker 6: Keeps the Score?
Speaker 2: No, the Body Keeps the Score? Huh.
Speaker 6: I highly recommend it.
Speaker 7: But it basically comes down to childhood trauma that creates
Speaker 7: the perfect storm for addiction to happen later on in life.
Speaker 2: Ye yep.
Speaker 7: And that's what's something that you guys have kind of
Speaker 7: brushed on. But a lot of Mike said, a lot
Speaker 7: of operators there unique their special breed, right, they're different,
Speaker 7: but there's a lot of commonalities between them, and again,
Speaker 7: childhood trauma is one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So what what it becomes though, is that addiction is
Speaker 7: initially put into the operations they do right, the missions
Speaker 7: they go on, but then all they're doing is giving
Speaker 7: themselves more trauma. So when they don't have that anymore,
Speaker 7: they have to find that outlet. Some are lucky and
Speaker 7: put it into you know, the Dave Doggins of the
Speaker 7: world put into extreme sports. Other ones will find alcohol, drugs,
Speaker 7: whatever it is, but a lot of it. And that's
Speaker 7: what Mike's scanning at is it starts in childhood. So
Speaker 7: you got to cheat treat that childhood drama while putting
Speaker 7: a band aid and resetting the rest of the body.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, childhood trauma's real. Yeah, no, that's true because it
Speaker 3: could set you up. And you're right because like you know,
Speaker 3: my dad was adopted. You know, at twelve years old,
Speaker 3: I went to Vietnam, became a Green Beret operator.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Tough childhood, right, tough childhood one already I know his background,
Speaker 3: so I just know it's a tough childhood. A lot
Speaker 3: of other guys I've talked to in the same community
Speaker 3: have come from, like Drill Sergeant. Can't hurt my feelings
Speaker 3: because he's more of a dad than I've ever had, right,
Speaker 3: that was me.
Speaker 5: I mean, well, my dad is a great dad, but
Speaker 5: he was an addict also, So I had a childhood
Speaker 5: of addiction from get go. Like my mom gave me
Speaker 5: a beer or wine collar when I was eight years old,
Speaker 5: Like that was the first drink that I had, and
Speaker 5: she was driving.
Speaker 2: She was driving drama about laughing, James, bro.
Speaker 4: It's all good, man, but like that so like it
Speaker 4: is then.
Speaker 2: Though, Bro, was that that was then? Right?
Speaker 3: You used to be able to like not have seatbelts
Speaker 3: in our cars. Yeah, yeah, that was you're forty ish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well she was drunk.
Speaker 5: She was getting pulled over by the cops as me
Speaker 5: and my brother and sister were drinking a wine cooler
Speaker 5: and she's like time to start chucking, So we started
Speaker 5: chucking them out the window. Like I still remember this,
Speaker 5: but like you know, I thought, oh, that's just how
Speaker 5: it is, you know, and and uh but yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: that was my first exposure to all well, my first
Speaker 5: like individual exposure to it. And then so at the
Speaker 5: age of eight, man, we started the addiction or the
Speaker 5: what we thought was cool and then right, but it
Speaker 5: became and it always is, but it was poisonous and
Speaker 5: we just didn't see it until I didn't see it
Speaker 5: until I was about twenty five and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: this this sucks man like and then and it was
Speaker 5: it starts scaling bigger and bigger and big into my
Speaker 5: life to the point that it got out of control.
Speaker 3: Its bleeding into the team on you, right, it was
Speaker 3: bleeding to you and through you.
Speaker 2: And like, did guys ever say, you know, how'd you
Speaker 2: make the run this morning?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like, Uzy, do you ever say that? Yeah? Right, You're like,
Speaker 2: how do I do this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm you know, at twenty, when you're in your twenties,
Speaker 5: that's different than when you start getting into your mid
Speaker 5: thirties and you're like, I can't keep up with the
Speaker 5: with the young guy you know, and U and so
Speaker 5: And it's really because of the alcohol. I think I
Speaker 5: would have been so much better of an operator if
Speaker 5: I didn't drink. And but like, if we can capture
Speaker 5: these guys prior to let's say, after their first or
Speaker 5: second platoon and just start integrating or incorporating this into
Speaker 5: their lifestyle, because it becomes a lifestyle change, and we
Speaker 5: can create a whole new culture within specop's community. And
Speaker 5: that's the intent, is to pull out the negative and
Speaker 5: then we're not trying to create boy scouts or choir
Speaker 5: boys here.
Speaker 2: Oh I get it, but no, ye hundred percent.
Speaker 5: We're trying to make them the best possible person that
Speaker 5: they can be in their personal lives and their professional lives.
Speaker 5: And that's the difference. Like I'm not trying to tell
Speaker 5: a guy, hey, you know what, like I want you
Speaker 5: to watch Disney Channel all day long, you know, and
Speaker 5: like be you know, really empathetic towards you know, like, yes,
Speaker 5: that is I'm not talking about Disney, but I'm talking
Speaker 5: like the empathy piece, Like, yeah, that is something that
Speaker 5: we need to incorporate into our personal lives. But I'm
Speaker 5: not telling them to be something that they're not already
Speaker 5: a part of. Or I'm not trying to reconfigure or
Speaker 5: conform them into something that you know that I'd honestly
Speaker 5: say that's not already in the ethos.
Speaker 4: So all these individual communities.
Speaker 3: We're just fancast purpose though you come into that that organization,
Speaker 3: you guys can help sweat it out of them, Right,
Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Well, we're reinforcing just positive mechanisms and tools.
Speaker 6: That's it, right, and something else there with it.
Speaker 7: Mike start to touch a little about the preventative side,
Speaker 7: so the big thirty thousand foot view or the big
Speaker 7: big and it's eventually to get so integrated with these operators.
Speaker 6: That as they see a young guy coming up that maybe.
Speaker 7: Is starting to struggle with it, they can get them
Speaker 7: involved early on so they don't lose years of their
Speaker 7: career due to alcohol or drugs or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, that's it, man, That is it.
Speaker 3: Because they're seeing some gunny or some chief or some
Speaker 3: starty first class slamming back Jamison who's been going through
Speaker 3: all the rigamaro that they're looking to go through, and
Speaker 3: they might think that's how they have to do it too, right.
Speaker 6: I think you can speak to that. I know I can.
Speaker 7: It's kind of endemic in those cultures though, the alcohol
Speaker 7: part of it, and that's how you decompress at the
Speaker 7: end of the day.
Speaker 3: Right, Right, because the military only allows alcohol to soldiers
Speaker 3: and airmen and sailors and coast guardsman's to drink rather
Speaker 3: than like you know, like recreational weed or medicinal or
Speaker 3: but alcohol. Like I don't understand that, right because like
Speaker 3: I see way more problems with alcohol than these other
Speaker 3: things I'm kind of referencing. It's like you know, a
Speaker 3: lot more like crying at your desk with something in
Speaker 3: your hand that you probably shouldn't think in stupid thoughts,
Speaker 3: you know, like.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a depressant, man, and that's that's the other thing.
Speaker 5: So now you're compounding it like exponentially because you're throwing
Speaker 5: in something on top of a trauma to trying to
Speaker 5: cope with it. But it's a depressant, are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: And it's highly addictive, and the re and the when
Speaker 5: you start getting off of it, when you're starting to
Speaker 5: go through the detox piece of.
Speaker 4: It, it could kill you.
Speaker 2: Like it's like, right, you can.
Speaker 3: Stroke scare you, Not to scare anybody trying to get
Speaker 3: off of it. Okay, but alcoholism is a very intertwined
Speaker 3: situation in your body, and you got to break free
Speaker 3: of it, and not only from the psychological thing of
Speaker 3: you know, okay, let's talk about cutting out addiction. You
Speaker 3: got to start changing your process in life. You got
Speaker 3: to like put the watch that you usually wear on
Speaker 3: your left hand on your right hand, and you got
Speaker 3: to start wearing things differently, and you got to put
Speaker 3: things in different places so that they don't trigger you
Speaker 3: to want to have that drink right away, because if
Speaker 3: you look at your watch, oh it's time. But if
Speaker 3: you have to look at your watch on this hand,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's right, I don't do that no more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just rewiring, rewiring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it takes time.
Speaker 4: So we're here.
Speaker 5: We're here for them, We're here for We're here for
Speaker 5: the audience. We're here for you. Right, just reach out.
Speaker 3: Well, I love that. So you know, I've had your
Speaker 3: time for just about fifty sixty minutes. We've been listening
Speaker 3: to talk about tribe task purpose. You know, I've had
Speaker 3: the great privilege to talk with Mike Payton and Joshua Reddock,
Speaker 3: twenty three year veteran Army and Navy seal.
Speaker 2: And we're talking.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're just joining us, we're talking about
Speaker 3: my merch store on software dot cop No really though,
Speaker 3: check it. We're talking about a healthy mind, chasing your dreams,
Speaker 3: being successful, being there for you, a tribe. I want
Speaker 3: to be a part of this tribe. I'm here with
Speaker 3: these guys. I want to say that I am you know,
Speaker 3: and and we're all here and if you have questions,
Speaker 3: you can reach us on multip pull different levels of
Speaker 3: social media or even at tribe task purpose. I would
Speaker 3: recommend you go check those guys out. If you're considering
Speaker 3: trying to quit chemical dependency or you're trying to get
Speaker 3: a grip on what you're dealing with, reach out to them.
Speaker 3: They probably have some at least pointers and suggestions on
Speaker 3: where you can go.
Speaker 2: Now with that, Josh, do you have anything you want
Speaker 2: to leave us with?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: As we wind down.
Speaker 7: The last thing, I'll say again just to reiterate, guys,
Speaker 7: it takes a whole tribe and we need, you know,
Speaker 7: not just participants in the program, but people's time, treasure
Speaker 7: and talents. And if you have if you're good at
Speaker 7: social media postings it you know, for me, I I
Speaker 7: donate money as a as a tax break, and you
Speaker 7: know I come from a religious background as my tithe
Speaker 7: in Egosis organization. Do you have anything or if you have,
Speaker 7: you know the time to your retired military bed that
Speaker 7: wants to get back Mike and I went to retreat
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago. Or there were retired Navy
Speaker 7: seals helping out and they're looking at things having to
Speaker 7: do with traumatic injuries from preachers. There's so many different
Speaker 7: ways to give back and one of the best things
Speaker 7: you can do for addiction is to get back because
Speaker 7: it takes you out of thinking about yourself and your
Speaker 7: problems and helping other people out. So it's a tribe.
Speaker 7: It really is a strong community. We wanted to get bigger,
Speaker 7: we want we wanted to help. Plus other people feel
Speaker 7: free to reach out to us. Mike and I are
Speaker 7: always willing to listen and you know, see what.
Speaker 6: We can do.
Speaker 2: And Mike, what could you say to top off on that?
Speaker 4: I don't think I could top that, but I'll add
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 5: And you know, like when I started thinking in the morning,
Speaker 5: it's like, what's the most powerful force and what's the
Speaker 5: most powerful emotion? And the conclusion that I come up
Speaker 5: with the most powerful emotion out there is hope. So
Speaker 5: we give that hope back to these individuals that feel hopeless.
Speaker 5: And then the most powerful force out there is love.
Speaker 5: And we love our brothers, we love our tribe, we
Speaker 5: love our network, we love our community, and that's what
Speaker 5: we're trying as a force. That's what we're trying to
Speaker 5: implement into the world.
Speaker 3: I love that the love, love, empathy. Check on your neighbor.
Speaker 3: They may be a veteran or not. Just check on them,
Speaker 3: say hi. If they are a veteran, say hey, how
Speaker 3: you doing. You're good, next door neighbor, how you doing?
Speaker 3: You need some cookies?
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 3: It's okay to be neighborly and to have open conversations
Speaker 3: like this where you know, I've never met Josh, Josh
Speaker 3: has never met me, and we've just had this conversation
Speaker 3: cordially on chemical dependency. And I have met Mike before,
Speaker 3: so I didn't want to use Mike. I wanted to
Speaker 3: use Josh. But it's true. We can have casual conversations
Speaker 3: with one another without getting to each other's throats. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, man, Joshua.
Speaker 2: Side Joshua sideway, so he's like, what's going on? Listen? Listen.
Speaker 2: That sounds like that's our cue right there.
Speaker 3: So with all due regard, go check out task excuse me,
Speaker 3: trib Task Purpose, Mike Peyton, Josh Reddock, my name is
Speaker 3: Rad and again, check out the merch store. I got
Speaker 3: our book club at softwap dot com Forward Slash Book
Speaker 3: hyphen Club. And if you want to meet also be
Speaker 3: on the show or you want to reach out, drop
Speaker 3: me an email at softwap dot com. And big shout
Speaker 3: out to Brandon Webb, you know, editor and chief author.
Speaker 3: He's got his new book coming out called Blind Fear,
Speaker 3: and I'm the voice of the character Finn, the Navy
Speaker 3: seal that travels around the world in steel fear, cold fear.
Speaker 3: And we got Blind Fear coming out, so get ready
Speaker 3: for that. And again my two guests Mike and Josh.
Speaker 3: Tribe task or task, Tribe task purpose. We're only humans,
Speaker 3: So thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 4: Absolutely thanks, Rad, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. Okay, this is Rad
Speaker 2: say Peace
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