Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. It's the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Scott Bogman. Follow me on the Twitter
Speaker 1: at Bogman Sports. I'm joined as always by the illustrious
Speaker 1: Pat Fitzmorris. Follow him on the Twitter at fits Underscore. Ff.
Speaker 1: You're heading out after we do this show, right or
Speaker 1: I guess tomorrow morning. So we're recording a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier than usually. You might get a little loosey goosey
Speaker 1: Bogmin and fits here. That'll be fun, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sir Boggs going to kend Ohio for the Fantasy
Speaker 2: Football Expo, which is fun. It's it's Fantasy Twitter come
Speaker 2: to life. You know, there are a lot of great
Speaker 2: people there, a lot of great people from the Dynasty community,
Speaker 2: a lot of our recurring guests. You know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get to see you know, Shane Manila, of course,
Speaker 2: you know Russ Fisher who we just had on a
Speaker 2: lot of great people there, So I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2: Box and we're coming up on our first full week
Speaker 2: of preseason football, so we're going to get some interesting
Speaker 2: developments too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, We're gonna get all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be injuries, as there always is. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: don't have the lights going off on any stadium like
Speaker 1: they do at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, like just move that game or scrap
Speaker 1: it or spend the money to fix that stadium, because
Speaker 1: it's always something. Remember they had to just not play
Speaker 1: the game a couple of years ago because the surface
Speaker 1: was horrible, and then the lights went out this time.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like you don't want to play
Speaker 1: that game or not figure it out like that is
Speaker 1: just so strange.
Speaker 2: But the weir I'm gonna be drafting in that stadium
Speaker 2: on Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully everything works for you.
Speaker 2: You know, fingers lights, I need lights on to help me.
Speaker 1: With Yeah, yeah, it shouldn't It shouldn't be that bad.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited for you. Man, that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: I wish I could go, just can't make it, uh
Speaker 1: at this point in the year. But uh, I know
Speaker 1: I'll be there someday soon and it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun when I go. And you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna have a ball to day on the show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about by Lows for your Dynasty leagues.
Speaker 1: And now do you have a definition for a bylow guy?
Speaker 1: Does it have to be because I mean, I think
Speaker 1: some rookies are by low this year. I think rookies
Speaker 1: are by loo pretty much every year, which is why
Speaker 1: people like to invest in them at the back end
Speaker 1: of the draft, right just in case one blows up
Speaker 1: of a irregular redraft. But in Dynasty, even where these
Speaker 1: guys are probably pushed up, some of them are maybe
Speaker 1: pushed up a little bit too much, right, just because
Speaker 1: they're young and they have their whole career in front
Speaker 1: of them. But is that is there a specific player
Speaker 1: that's a bilo to you or can it be any
Speaker 1: type of player as long as they're below what you
Speaker 1: think is going to be their future value.
Speaker 2: For a lot of these guys that I'm going to
Speaker 2: list today, bogs, their value is at rock bottom, right
Speaker 2: rock bottom, there is nowhere to go. But some of them,
Speaker 2: a couple maybe not at rock bottom. I would say
Speaker 2: three of the these guys are at rock bottom for sure.
Speaker 2: And you're right though a dynasty, a rookie can be
Speaker 2: a bilo in Dynasty bugs because some you know, for
Speaker 2: those of us who do our drafts early, like right
Speaker 2: after the NFL Draft. Some of these guys do lose
Speaker 2: value after the draft, Like everyone was really excited about
Speaker 2: Kendra Miller, right, and since then there have been some
Speaker 2: injury questions. There have been some questions about whether the
Speaker 2: Saints might add someone else to the mix. There's the
Speaker 2: reduction of the Alvin Kamara suspense or a lighter suspension
Speaker 2: than we anticipated for Alvin Kamara. So I would say
Speaker 2: Kendra Miller is maybe not held in as high as
Speaker 2: esteem now as he was back in you know, early.
Speaker 1: May, right, and you know, injured players and can be
Speaker 1: in there as well. You know, a guy like Hendon Hooker,
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions. He's a rookie and the Lions
Speaker 1: just went out and signed Teddy Bridgewater because it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like Hooker is going to be read, you know,
Speaker 1: and really even if he is ready, they don't know
Speaker 1: what they have because they can't watch him playing now
Speaker 1: because he's not playing, So people are not even thinking
Speaker 1: about Hendon Hooker. He's the guy that I almost put
Speaker 1: on this list, you know, like you mentioned a couple
Speaker 1: of rookies with Shawn Johnson, Chase Brown, because who knows
Speaker 1: mixing sticking around next year, right, Luke Musgrave has been
Speaker 1: getting a lot of buzz, like, there's some rookies here
Speaker 1: that could be at their lowest value right now in
Speaker 1: this draft because they're gonna have significant roles. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I did. Fits was I've been doing
Speaker 1: a lot of the same names, so I try to
Speaker 1: go all original names. I don't know that I've mentioned
Speaker 1: these guys on many other podcasts, specifically this one, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I tried to go original names here, so it was
Speaker 1: tougher than normal. I worked on this probably a little
Speaker 1: bit longer than I should have.
Speaker 2: That's good because I'm talking about a lot of that.
Speaker 2: I'm playing the hits.
Speaker 1: I'm playing the hits box next week. That's what I
Speaker 1: did last week. I played the hits. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to hit these guys over the head with
Speaker 1: these I think these are the guys that you can
Speaker 1: get lady in your draft, So try to come up
Speaker 1: with some original names. But maybe some of them aren't
Speaker 1: that original. But before we dive into we each have
Speaker 1: five by the way, so it's gonna be ten names here.
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Speaker 1: further ado here, FITZI, let's get into some of these
Speaker 1: by low players. I will let you start first because
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback here, and so give me your quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I think you only have one running back, and
Speaker 1: then we'll go to my running back. So we'll kind
Speaker 1: of try to keep it a little positional here. And
Speaker 1: your RB is ranked higher than mine anyway, So let's
Speaker 1: hear your first QB here, all right.
Speaker 2: Well, I said, I was going to play the hits bogs,
Speaker 2: and it's almost obligated contractually for me to bring up
Speaker 2: Trey Lance. And look, it is hard to trade for
Speaker 2: a quarterback in super Flex. Generally, if you want to
Speaker 2: upgrade yourself at the position, you have to do it
Speaker 2: in your rookie drafts. But I think Trey Lance presents
Speaker 2: a chance for you to get a high upside quarterback
Speaker 2: for a very modest cost. And might be understating at Boggs,
Speaker 2: I said, like for a lot of these guys, the're
Speaker 2: values at rock bottom. Trey Lance's values at rock bottom.
Speaker 2: Like we just mentioned Kendra Miller, I think you might
Speaker 2: be able to trade Kendray Miller straight up for Trey Lance.
Speaker 2: And you know, certainly you could do it for I
Speaker 2: don't know, Christian Kirk. I think if you offer the
Speaker 2: Trey Lance investor Christian Kirk for him straight up, he
Speaker 2: would be happy to cash out he or she, And
Speaker 2: you know, like I think the value is even lower
Speaker 2: on Lance than it was a month ago, now that
Speaker 2: brock Perty is known to be healthy and the overwhelming
Speaker 2: favorite to be the weak one starter for the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers. But look, Bogs. Lance was the third overall
Speaker 2: pick in the twenty twenty one draft, and I know
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean anything because we have seen quarterbacks
Speaker 2: who were drafted early not pan out, certainly Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: who was picked one spot ahead of Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: But they all get second, third, fourth chances.
Speaker 2: Chances, right, JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, David Carr, going back
Speaker 2: through the years, that's Tembo, Tim Tebow. And that's the
Speaker 2: thing that makes Lance different from those guest Bogs. Those
Speaker 2: guys all had chances and failed. Lance has not really
Speaker 2: gotten his chance yet. And here's another mitigating circumstance with
Speaker 2: Lance Boggs. He was always going to be something of
Speaker 2: a project. We knew that going in. He played basically
Speaker 2: one full college season, and he played at North Dakota
Speaker 2: State against inferior competition. So he made two starts last season,
Speaker 2: one of which was in a rainstorm in Chicago, and
Speaker 2: then he broke his ankle in the other and he
Speaker 2: has not really had sufficient opportunity to show off that
Speaker 2: NFL caliber arm or the rushing ability that could make
Speaker 2: him such a valuable fantasy asset. And we know he's
Speaker 2: going to run like this dude can run. Look, I
Speaker 2: know brock Perdy played well last season, but he also
Speaker 2: feasted on a very easy slate of opponents over the
Speaker 2: second half of the regular season. When he faced the
Speaker 2: Cowboys in the playoffs, they basically shut him down. So
Speaker 2: whether Lance gets his opportunity with the forty nine ers
Speaker 2: this year or with some other team next year, that
Speaker 2: opportunity is going to come eventually. I think he's the
Speaker 2: ultimate Bilo in dynasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this pick, and this is an outstanding pick.
Speaker 1: And what we said before, you know, like second, third,
Speaker 1: fourth opportunity. Sam Darnold still on an NFL roster, right,
Speaker 1: he was bad with the Jets, he was bad with Carolina,
Speaker 1: but you know San Francisco they think they can fix him,
Speaker 1: so you know they went after him day one. He's in.
Speaker 1: He might be the second guy behind party, so Trey
Speaker 1: Lance might slip to that third. And trust me, when
Speaker 1: that depth chart comes out, I bet you it's gonna
Speaker 1: have Trey Lance at third, and that is when he
Speaker 1: will hit absolute rock bottom, you know, and so it
Speaker 1: might even get worse from what we're talking about today,
Speaker 1: and you know, get into the season a little bit,
Speaker 1: and especially if you're in a super flex league, if
Speaker 1: he's not playing, he's eating up a roster spot. People
Speaker 1: are gonna want to go and see if they can
Speaker 1: ditch him and just get somebody else, because you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the Niners are a little more beholden to him
Speaker 1: because of the capital they spent to get him. But
Speaker 1: your fantasy player is in your league, they don't care,
Speaker 1: So go get him. Go scoop him up for a
Speaker 1: late pick, or you know a player that's on your
Speaker 1: bench that maybe you don't even need, you know. I
Speaker 1: think this is a great one to point out. I
Speaker 1: think Trey Lance is absolutely bilo right now, and I
Speaker 1: think you should at least try to see what it
Speaker 1: would cost to go get him. So good, first one
Speaker 1: out of the gates here, FITZI.
Speaker 2: Who's number two, Antonio Gibson, And maybe the value is
Speaker 2: starting to creep up a little, Bogs and maybe it
Speaker 2: reached it's in a deer last year, Gibson just turned
Speaker 2: twenty five, and like I've gone on about how he
Speaker 2: is as big and as fast as Jonathan Taylor and
Speaker 2: is a former college receiver, so he has that pass
Speaker 2: catching skill set, and like, this is a dude who
Speaker 2: scored double digit touchdowns in his first two years in
Speaker 2: the league. But last year he had the fewest number
Speaker 2: of touches since he's been in the league because he
Speaker 2: clearly fell out of favor with then Washington offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: Scott Turner. So you know, it was kind of a
Speaker 2: last year. And granted, Gibson may have gotten himself in
Speaker 2: the doghouse with his six fumbles in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: so maybe they just lost confidence. But now he's got
Speaker 2: a clean slate with Eric the Enemy, the Commander's new
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, and I'm hoping that the Enemy sees Gibson
Speaker 2: as like a Jeric McKinnon plus a guy who can
Speaker 2: play as the primary passing down back and he definitely
Speaker 2: has that skill set, but also maybe be a goal
Speaker 2: line guy, maybe share a lot of that early down
Speaker 2: work with Brian Robinson. And you know, look, Brian Robinson,
Speaker 2: We've talked about this Boggs. I mean, I think he's
Speaker 2: a perfectly serviceable early down grinder, but he's not special.
Speaker 2: Gibson is potentially special with that size speed combination in
Speaker 2: the pass catching skill set. So if the enemy is
Speaker 2: more enchanted with that skill set than Scott Turner was Boggs,
Speaker 2: I think there could be a bonanza coming for Gibson
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Currently his dynasty ECR for Gibson is thirty seven. So
Speaker 1: I just want to I'm gonna list off some running backs.
Speaker 1: You tell me, if you take any of these guys
Speaker 1: over Gibson, we'll go to the top of the tier here.
Speaker 1: Would you take Brian Robinson obviously not nope, Khalil Herbert, no,
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon, definitely not, Andre Miller, no, Alvin Kamara, no
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison. That's maybe right now that that might be okay.
Speaker 2: Short window for sure, so that's a little more interesting.
Speaker 1: We round out with like Pa Checko, h Chain, James Cook, Montgomery,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Zach Sharboney, maybe Sharbone over there. I know
Speaker 1: you're a Devin a Chain guy, so maybe him, uh,
Speaker 1: James Cook or Isaiah.
Speaker 2: Pachecko, maybe James Cook.
Speaker 1: I would say Pa Checko, maybe not Cook, so but
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, look he's right in this range,
Speaker 1: and that range would bring him all the way up
Speaker 1: to like twenty five, so like you know, right around
Speaker 1: your first RB three instead of one of your last
Speaker 1: RB threes. So uh yeah, I think he is absolutely undervalued.
Speaker 1: And like you said by Bilo on a guy who
Speaker 1: is fumbled and people like Brian Robinson and we haven't
Speaker 1: seen it yet, but every day in camp, I feel
Speaker 1: like we're getting more and more and more buzz about
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson. So another good one here, anything more to
Speaker 1: add on Gibson?
Speaker 2: No, that's it. Let's hear your first cut, Bogs.
Speaker 1: All right, my first guy here, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: We'll start at the running backs. I'll go with Zamir White,
Speaker 1: and look, he's working with the first team offense, and
Speaker 1: Josh mccaniels has been impressed by his leap from his
Speaker 1: rookie season into his second season. I think if Jacobs
Speaker 1: does sign, which he's not there right now, he's not
Speaker 1: even in camp, which is very concerning. So you know,
Speaker 1: I still have in my brain, even though I saw
Speaker 1: Klaveon Bell crash and burn by holding out and everything,
Speaker 1: I still have in my head that all these running
Speaker 1: backs are going to get back into the game and
Speaker 1: not have an issue moving forward, because that's what happens
Speaker 1: most of the time. I think the last time I
Speaker 1: brought this up, someone subtweeted us and said, well, Emmett
Speaker 1: Smith in the nineties, but come on, man, like, that's
Speaker 1: not recent. You know, let's use more current examples. And
Speaker 1: Bell ruined it. You know, he ruined his career and
Speaker 1: the Steelers run game for a couple of years by
Speaker 1: holding out. So you know, maybe Josh Shacobs does that.
Speaker 1: I expect him to sign a deal, but I think
Speaker 1: if he does, I think that it's going to be
Speaker 1: a deal like Saquan And even if he doesn't, even
Speaker 1: let's say he signs a long term extension, he cannot
Speaker 1: keep putting up three hundred and ninety three touches. That
Speaker 1: is not sustainable by any stretch of the imagination. So
Speaker 1: Samir White is going to have a role, and he
Speaker 1: has time right now in camp in preseason to prove
Speaker 1: himself to be put into a bigger role. And right now,
Speaker 1: his dynasty ECR is sixty six, so he's a mid
Speaker 1: tier RB six on your team. His ADP is even
Speaker 1: further down the board in PPR leagues right now just
Speaker 1: looking at a draft wizard, so this guy is buried.
Speaker 1: So even if you're in a deeper dynasty league, I
Speaker 1: think this is a dude that right now, specifically, if
Speaker 1: you are rostering Josh Jacobs, you want to go get him.
Speaker 1: You want a handcuff, and it shouldn't cost you more
Speaker 1: than a late rookie pick or a wide receiver with
Speaker 1: a little bit more juice, you know, like if I
Speaker 1: came to you and I offered you juju four yours,
Speaker 1: Demir White, I think you probably pulled a trigger on
Speaker 1: that pretty quick. So with Jacob's kind of floundering here,
Speaker 1: we know that the Raiders don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: money to spend, so maybe they don't go after running back,
Speaker 1: and going after running back is not really in vogue
Speaker 1: right now. They could draft somebody next year, but I
Speaker 1: think this dude's going to get an opportunity to play
Speaker 1: more this year with a further look down the road
Speaker 1: as well. So maybe a later season acquisition for you,
Speaker 1: also depending on what type of deal Josh Jacobs signs,
Speaker 1: But right now he's pretty close to as low as
Speaker 1: he's going to get in my opinion, because I think
Speaker 1: this is a pretty good back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zamir White is really interesting, Bogs. And I'll get
Speaker 2: my two reservations about him out of the way. First.
Speaker 2: The big one is that he's not really a pass catcher,
Speaker 2: so that's going to be maybe limit his ceiling somewhat
Speaker 2: in Dynasty unless he is a real heavy duty runner,
Speaker 2: like gets a lot of carries, and potentially he could
Speaker 2: do that if he proves himself. The other is that
Speaker 2: he has this you know, he's already had one knee
Speaker 2: surgery and he has got this hard charging style, like
Speaker 2: he does not shy away from content, very Isaiah Pacheka
Speaker 2: like with his running style. Maybe not quite that reckless,
Speaker 2: but you know, he's a guy who's going to take
Speaker 2: some punishment if he runs the ball a lot. So
Speaker 2: those are my two worries that you know, he doesn't
Speaker 2: catch passes and there might be a higher injury risk
Speaker 2: then you would associate with a typical back perhaps. But
Speaker 2: he's really interesting as a runner though, Bogs. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was really impressive in college, like just a downhill style.
Speaker 2: You can almost see a little bit of Nick Chubb
Speaker 2: in Georgia.
Speaker 1: That's acting, but yes, I mean that's how they that's
Speaker 1: how they train their guys, and that's what he looks like.
Speaker 2: Yeah too, He's to make that comp but like you
Speaker 2: can almost squint and see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I love watching him at Georgia.
Speaker 1: He's a big part of that run game there, so
Speaker 1: of the national title guys. So I am excited about
Speaker 1: him in his future. Another guy that is free right now,
Speaker 1: and he's third on the depth chart. But Zach Evans,
Speaker 1: running back for the Rams here third on the depth chart.
Speaker 1: Like I said, but the Rams traded up for Evans
Speaker 1: and he has a much more complete game in my
Speaker 1: opinion than Kyron Williams, and akers is a UFA after
Speaker 1: this season. So and you know, look, the Rams have
Speaker 1: nine spots on defense that they need to replace before
Speaker 1: they even bother looking at a running back. Let's say
Speaker 1: a couple of those spots play well, right, Let's say
Speaker 1: three of them play well, they still have six spots
Speaker 1: to replace on defense before they are even thinking about
Speaker 1: going after a running back. So, with Zach Evans having
Speaker 1: a you know, more complete skill set in my opinion
Speaker 1: than Kyron Williams, acres potentially being gone, you know, he's
Speaker 1: free right now. He's RB seventy four, two hundred and
Speaker 1: fortieth overall a draft wizard for PPR leagues, and his
Speaker 1: ECR is much higher than that at fifty six. So
Speaker 1: his ECR is fifty six, he's going off at RB
Speaker 1: seventy four. And look, most of your leagues aren't going
Speaker 1: to take into account the difference between you know, a
Speaker 1: dynasty league and a regular PPR league. They're just going
Speaker 1: by ADP when you're clicking on it, or just you know,
Speaker 1: regular this season rankings when you're on that website. So
Speaker 1: if you're doing a first year player draft, or if
Speaker 1: you've already done your draft and maybe this guy is
Speaker 1: sitting out on the wire, maybe you have a spot
Speaker 1: on your roster you can just grab and stash, you know,
Speaker 1: if you have a deeper league. I think Zach Evans
Speaker 1: could potentially be interesting after this season, maybe even in
Speaker 1: this season. Although Kyen Williams is making a lot of
Speaker 1: noise in camp right now, is the better back. I'll
Speaker 1: say that, you know, there's always a chance they re
Speaker 1: signed acres, but I don't think Zach Evans is that
Speaker 1: much further behind these guys, maybe just because he's a
Speaker 1: rookie right now, and I definitely think he'll move past
Speaker 1: Kyron Williams by the end of the season. So Zach
Speaker 1: Evans is the dude that I'm very interested in acquiring
Speaker 1: right now for very cheap or just straight up picking
Speaker 1: up off the wire because he's available in a lot
Speaker 1: of leagues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he is available in some bugs. But like
Speaker 2: back in rookie draft season in May, it seemed like
Speaker 2: there was maybe even a little more interest in him
Speaker 2: than there would typically be for a running back who
Speaker 2: has chosen in like the back half of the second
Speaker 2: round of the sixth round. He's an interesting case for sure.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think he is a flawless prospect by
Speaker 2: any means, obviously being a sixth rounder, but like a
Speaker 2: guy who was usurped by freshman Quinn Schawn Judkins at
Speaker 2: ole Miss last year basically so.
Speaker 1: And he moved from TCU to go to Ole Miss
Speaker 1: to get more playing time and then Quishn Jenkins was
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the country as
Speaker 1: a freshman last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's really no shame I think in losing your
Speaker 2: job to Judkins, who is potentially going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe even a first round NFL pick at some point.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Evans, he isn't interesting. I totally agree that
Speaker 2: he's better than Kyron Williams, and I think he's going
Speaker 2: to be at least for early down usage. Kyron has
Speaker 2: that third down skill set, but as far as early
Speaker 2: down guy like, he's clearly going to be the backup
Speaker 2: to cam Akers, I believe, especially with the Sony Michelle retirement,
Speaker 2: unless they bring someone else in and where the Rams
Speaker 2: going to get the money for that? You know they've
Speaker 2: gone all in so and we have seen Bogs cam
Speaker 2: Akers fall out of favor once before. Now possibly things
Speaker 2: got settled, but there was a brief time in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two where cam Akers was estranged from the team, right,
Speaker 2: that was a very weird deal. And then he comes
Speaker 2: back and gets used as a workhorse down the stretch,
Speaker 2: so kind of a weird thing. We don't know the
Speaker 2: Rams level of commitment to Acres just now, but yeah,
Speaker 2: Evans is like a sneaky handcuff and maybe there is
Speaker 2: you know, like he could slide through that crack, that
Speaker 2: crevice of opportunity at some point in twenty three and
Speaker 2: suddenly become a very valuable fantasy asset.
Speaker 1: And I think you know this is the year kind
Speaker 1: of like you mentioned, they're up against the cap, they've
Speaker 1: had issues. They're kind of burning this year. That's why
Speaker 1: they traded Ramsey. They traded everybody but Aaron Donald, Matt Stafford,
Speaker 1: and Cooper cup right, Like those are the guys that
Speaker 1: they have. Then they're going to have to rely on them.
Speaker 1: So I think they're not going out spending money, you know.
Speaker 1: I think they're just kind of burning this year, and
Speaker 1: this is a year to kind of figure it out.
Speaker 1: This is the year to see who is going to
Speaker 1: be on this roster long term. So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys on this ross as a whole
Speaker 1: are going to get a shot, not just the running backs,
Speaker 1: but I do think Zach Evans can benefit from that.
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Speaker 1: I've been canton, but it's okay. Pat. I'll go ahead
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Speaker 1: gonna have some time off, that's fine, but all right.
Speaker 1: We are ready to move on to some wide receivers here. So, FITZI,
Speaker 1: who is your first wide receiver you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: It's Elijah Moore and I think this is the cheapest
Speaker 2: we are going to see Elijah Moore for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: But the breakout is coming. Boggs and as a rookie
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, More had a six game stretch
Speaker 2: from Week eight to Week thirteen where he had thirty
Speaker 2: four catches for four hundred and fifty nine yards and
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. Over those six weeks, he was the wide
Speaker 2: receiver four in PPR Fantasy scoring, behind only Justin Jefferson, Keenan, Allen, Cooper, Cupp.
Speaker 1: So the quarterback pretty good about to be in pretty.
Speaker 2: Good spot, to be in good company and the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: who were throwing him the ball while he was going
Speaker 2: nuclear during that span Zach Wilson, Mike White, Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: and Josh Johnson. So basically during those six weeks, Jets'
Speaker 2: quarterbacks were basically doing two things, throwing the ball to
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore and getting hurt. That's about all that was
Speaker 2: going on with Jets quarterbacks. Moore's a good route runner,
Speaker 2: good hands, very productive in his final two seasons at
Speaker 2: Old Miss, after AJ Brown and DK Metcalf had left.
Speaker 2: He averaged almost one hundred and fifty receiving yards per
Speaker 2: game in his junior year, which was his final chat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then he had that super productive stretch with the
Speaker 2: Jets and his rookie year, but twenty twenty two act
Speaker 2: of their Yeah, and like he wasn't getting the ball
Speaker 2: from Zach Wilson and he didn't handle it well, Bogs Like,
Speaker 2: not at all. He basically sulked his way out of
Speaker 2: New York and forced to trade to the Browns. So
Speaker 2: the good news is that it does seem like the
Speaker 2: Browns are intent on using him and getting the ball
Speaker 2: into his hands. Like I saw a training camp highlight
Speaker 2: today where he was lined up in the backfield and
Speaker 2: they threw him a little swing pat So to do that, Man,
Speaker 2: get this ball guy the ball and let him do
Speaker 2: his thing. So I'm really excited about the future for
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, and I think it's a good time to
Speaker 2: get in on him if you don't have him on
Speaker 2: your roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, his ECR right now for dynasty leagues
Speaker 1: is wide receiver forty three. His ADP on the Draft
Speaker 1: Wizard is wide receiver forty eight. So your last wide
Speaker 1: receiver four in a twelve man league, So your first
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the bench or potentially a flex player
Speaker 1: is where he stands right now, hovering. I think right
Speaker 1: around pick one hundred ish, somewhere in that neighborhood. So
Speaker 1: you know, I have I have positives about Elijah Moore
Speaker 1: because I think he is super talented and I love
Speaker 1: the fact that he gets out of that mess in
Speaker 1: New York, right, and he is in Cleveland, and like
Speaker 1: you said, they're designing plays for him. There's been a
Speaker 1: notable you know, reports about the between himself and Watson
Speaker 1: this offseason. How good he's looked in camp. He's torching
Speaker 1: all the corners and torturing them. It's awesome.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: My little concern for him is I still don't trust
Speaker 1: Watson because of all the russ that he had last year.
Speaker 1: And this is a run first and run second offense
Speaker 1: that they have in Cleveland. The line is built for it.
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is there and he's optioned one and two,
Speaker 1: so and in Djoko kind of came around last year,
Speaker 1: so he's going to demand some targets too. Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: is probably you know, on his way out as far
Speaker 1: as his NFL career stand. He's still going to have
Speaker 1: a couple of great years, but mother nature is gonna
Speaker 1: get him pretty soon. So is More gonna be the
Speaker 1: guy to stand up and take that spot or is
Speaker 1: he gonna have an attitude problem when they start running
Speaker 1: the ball and he doesn't get ten targets every single
Speaker 1: game and have a little fit again. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's more about the offense and his attitude and maybe
Speaker 1: this same stuff happening here in Cleveland that it happened
Speaker 1: in New York. I hope I'm wrong about that, because
Speaker 1: this dude has so much talent. And I mean, as
Speaker 1: much as I don't want to see him have success
Speaker 1: on the Browns because I'm a Steelers fan, I do
Speaker 1: think he can and I think he will. So I'm
Speaker 1: behind this one as well. My first wide receiver here,
Speaker 1: I'll throw out you. I'm gonna go with Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1: And Sutton is getting big praise heaped on him right now,
Speaker 1: fits by new head coach Sean Payton. They had him
Speaker 1: study Michael Thomas's film from twenty nineteen, and I just
Speaker 1: want to give you his numbers. Michael Thomas's twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: numbers one hundred and eighty five targets, one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty nine catches, seventeen to twenty five for the yards,
Speaker 1: and nine scores. It's ridiculous to expect that. But how
Speaker 1: about you know a couple more targets for Sutton? How
Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty targets? Right? He had one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five last year on an offense that
Speaker 1: was miserable, But the lowest PPR point per game total
Speaker 1: for a player with one hundred and fifty targets since
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen was wide receiver twenty seven. When DJ Moore
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, he only scored four touchdowns. But
Speaker 1: every other player with one hundred and fifty targets or
Speaker 1: more has finished in a PPR league as low as
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirteen, So almost a wide receiver won for
Speaker 1: everybody that got that amount of targets. Now is he
Speaker 1: gonna get that? I don't know. You know, they got
Speaker 1: a pretty good run game with Javonte and samashe p Ryan,
Speaker 1: but we know Sean Payton is here and by the way, Sutton,
Speaker 1: You know, Sutton has been pretty solid with the likes
Speaker 1: of Keenum Flacco, Drew Locke, and Bridgewater and then the
Speaker 1: corpse of Russell Wilson last year. He hasn't had one
Speaker 1: quarterback throw the most passes for this team two years
Speaker 1: in a row in his entire career. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be the first year where Russell Wilson threw the most
Speaker 1: passes last year, and he'll throw the most this year,
Speaker 1: of course, unless he gets hurt, So I think that
Speaker 1: could be big for him building a rapport. I think
Speaker 1: Sutton is prime to be one of the biggest risers
Speaker 1: from the Peyton higher. His ECR right now is wide
Speaker 1: receiver forty eight. His ADP is wide receiver forty two
Speaker 1: in PPR leagues, And I think this is a guy
Speaker 1: that you can go get right now and he can
Speaker 1: at least bring you high end wide receiver three numbers
Speaker 1: and not be a low end wide receiver four. Where
Speaker 1: do you stand on Courtland Sutton, Fitzie?
Speaker 2: You know it's funny, Bog's like people have been so
Speaker 2: off on this Bronco like people seem ready to throw
Speaker 2: shove all their chips into the middle with one guy
Speaker 2: or the other. And last year it was Sutton who
Speaker 2: everyone was betting on. And I was actually one of
Speaker 2: the not doing this to brag or blow my own horn,
Speaker 2: but I mean I kind of wondered last year, like,
Speaker 2: are we really sure Sutton is the best receiver in Denver?
Speaker 2: And I had this debate with Andrew Erickson and as
Speaker 2: a result, he owes me a pizza for this which
Speaker 2: is gonna have pineapple on it. By the way, because
Speaker 2: we also debated the merits of pineapple on pizza, which
Speaker 2: I think is fabulous. But the funny thing is and
Speaker 2: the bat Bogs was a straight up beat Courtland Sutton
Speaker 2: versus DK Metcalf or fantasy points last year, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I dusted him in that one. But who's to say
Speaker 2: that Courtland Sutton couldn't be the discount DK metcalf for
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson this year. And who's to say that now
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy is so much better than Courtland Sutton, which
Speaker 2: everyone seems to believe this year. And again I'm thinking, like, eh,
Speaker 2: is he really well?
Speaker 1: They made it work with Jarvis Landry. Jarvis Landry was
Speaker 1: outstanding for New Orleans with Michael Thomas, right, so good point.
Speaker 1: You know they made it both work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, I just don't think just as
Speaker 2: people perceived a big gap between Sutton and Judy last year,
Speaker 2: favoring Sutton, now everyone's perceiving this big gap and favoring Judy,
Speaker 2: and like, I think the gap is narrower between these
Speaker 2: two than is commonly perceived. So yeah, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: high on and sudden if the price is low, like
Speaker 2: I think it's a logical buying opportunity for a guy
Speaker 2: that everyone was pretty high on last year.
Speaker 1: I think I was mixing up Jarvis Landry with somebody
Speaker 1: else because he was good with Cleveland, not with New
Speaker 1: Orleans and New Orleans. He was only with New Orleans
Speaker 1: last year. But you get my point. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Michael tom like they're they're telling him to watch the
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas film right like that. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas had one hundred and eighty five targets that year.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that intrigues me. It's the amount of targets.
Speaker 1: Do I think that he is Michael Thomas in his prime? No,
Speaker 1: I don't, But I do think that if he's the
Speaker 1: number one here, he get a ton of targets and
Speaker 1: absolutely make it work. Now, I just want to see
Speaker 1: who was second in receptions on that Saints team, since
Speaker 1: it wasn't so it was, well, it was Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: and they had Jared Cook and then they had a
Speaker 1: mix of like Ted Ginn and Trey Kwan and Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill had a bunch of targets. It was kind of
Speaker 1: a mess. After Michael Thomas, so one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: five targets is not really realistic for anybody, but being
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Speaker 1: going to go along here on this debate a little bit. Look,
Speaker 1: I set this all up here, Fitzie, so we can argue.
Speaker 1: So and I set this up. You gave me your
Speaker 1: names first, and I went, I gotta do one contrarian
Speaker 1: with FITZI. So let's hear your wide receiver that you
Speaker 1: want to argue for, and then I'll go into the
Speaker 1: other corner.
Speaker 2: Oh listen, bog Man, we might not have quite the
Speaker 2: vigorous argument you're expecting here on this one. Because I
Speaker 2: had conviction with my touting of Elijah Moore and Antonio
Speaker 2: Gibson and even Trey Lance. I'm nowhere near that level
Speaker 2: of conviction on Kadarius Tony. In fact, Boggs, I think
Speaker 2: I might need go into a twelve step program for
Speaker 2: Daryl's Tony because I've been, you know, hanking his horn
Speaker 2: all off season and I mean, yeah, I you know,
Speaker 2: do feel like I need to meet with the other
Speaker 2: Kidarius Tony Truthers in a church basement somewhere with like
Speaker 2: stale doughnuts and tepid coffee, because I just like, I
Speaker 2: can't quit this guy. And I need to quit this guy, Bogs.
Speaker 2: I mean the knee injury man. Like one of the
Speaker 2: first days of training camp and he hurts his knee.
Speaker 2: And this from a guy who has missed fifteen games
Speaker 2: in his first two seasons, has injured seemingly every body
Speaker 2: part imaginable, got COVID twice in one year. It's just
Speaker 2: like one thing after another with this guy, and it
Speaker 2: really does seem like he is the second coming of
Speaker 2: Percy Harvin, this extraordinarily talented athlete who just whose body
Speaker 2: couldn't cooperate with him to play NFL football for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: And what we have seen of him in some of
Speaker 2: the short bursts just insane athleticism, just like a coiled
Speaker 2: spring waiting to you know, snap off the line of
Speaker 2: scrimmage and he's drawn targets. I mentioned this Bogs at
Speaker 2: just this crazy high rate and the stat I've mentioned
Speaker 2: it on this show. Since he's come into the league,
Speaker 2: he has been targeted on seventeen point three percent of
Speaker 2: all his snaps. That includes running plays too, And just
Speaker 2: to compare that, like Justin Jefferson, the twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: target leader, was targeted on seventeen point one percent of
Speaker 2: his snaps last year, So Tony has beaten that rate,
Speaker 2: and yes, like a lot of it has kind of
Speaker 2: manufactured stuff close to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: When he's coming into the game, you know, as a
Speaker 1: rotational player, it's like, well, they're kind of maybe designing
Speaker 1: a play for him, right, so some you kind of
Speaker 1: know the ball is going to go towards him, or
Speaker 1: at least it has a high likelihood of going towards
Speaker 1: him when he comes in too, because he plays, he
Speaker 1: plays less snaps than Jefferson, so the percentage is higher.
Speaker 1: But when he's on the field, he's on the field
Speaker 1: to catch the ball or move the ball. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a great point. Right.
Speaker 2: He's never gonna be an eighty or ninety percent or
Speaker 2: ninety five percent snap guy like justin Jefferson. He's going
Speaker 2: to be a schemed guy. But boy, if you want
Speaker 2: him in a schemed offense, put him in the big,
Speaker 2: meaty hands of Andy Reid and let Andy Reid draw
Speaker 2: plays for this guy and let Patrick Mahomes get this
Speaker 2: dude the ball in open space. So man, I'm still
Speaker 2: just dreaming of what could be Bogs. And even though
Speaker 2: he's not gonna play in the preseason. He's probably gonna
Speaker 2: miss the rest of camp. They haven't ruled him out
Speaker 2: for a week one yet, so you know, it's hard
Speaker 2: to imagine that all of a sudden, like Kdarius Tony
Speaker 2: is showing up in Week one and making big plays.
Speaker 1: But it could happen.
Speaker 2: It could happen, and you know, I should probably go
Speaker 2: to that twelve step meeting.
Speaker 1: Now it could happen. So my thing here and the
Speaker 1: reason I wanted to pick somebody else, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of across from Kadarius Tony, was because I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I like Kadarius Tony a lot. Is he as injured
Speaker 1: as I think? So not only did I go and
Speaker 1: look at just the games he's missed, but I went
Speaker 1: back and I looked like I scrolled all the way
Speaker 1: down rode a wire and into like the weekly reports,
Speaker 1: and not only is he constantly hurt, but the games
Speaker 1: where he's not hurt a lot. And this is why
Speaker 1: I hate Mike Williams is he's questionable to play most
Speaker 1: of the games that he even actually played because of
Speaker 1: these other injuries, which is annoying as well. So I
Speaker 1: do think Kadarius Tony is a better talent than sky Moore,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's going to be healthy at
Speaker 1: any point in his career. Miss seven games is a rookie.
Speaker 1: Here are the ailments outside of COVID. You mentioned he
Speaker 1: got COVID twice, hamstring, ankle, thumb, oblique, quad, shoulder, all
Speaker 1: of those in one year. Last season, he had knee
Speaker 1: surgery in the offseason, and then he had knee or
Speaker 1: in leg issues in camp, had a hamstring injury in
Speaker 1: between weeks one and two, and uh, missed a bunch
Speaker 1: of games, was traded to the Chiefs, and then he
Speaker 1: was magically healthy. Then guess what, hamstring flared up again
Speaker 1: and he missed some games eight in total last year.
Speaker 1: The difference in talent between more and Tony to me
Speaker 1: isn't enough. Uh, you know, isn't enough to make up
Speaker 1: for the fact that sky Moore will be on the
Speaker 1: field and Canario's Tony likely won't. I mean, the old
Speaker 1: scouting trope is availability is the best ability, right Being
Speaker 1: out on the field is a big part of it.
Speaker 1: And you know, let's not forget also fits that Canarius
Speaker 1: Tony and I think the Giants traded him because of
Speaker 1: his attitude that massive game that he had against Dallas.
Speaker 1: He got a jet did from that game, right, Like,
Speaker 1: dude seems to maybe have a bad attitude as well sometimes,
Speaker 1: so you know, you can't get stats if you're not playing.
Speaker 1: And then the dude has already had knee surgery this
Speaker 1: season before the season started, and now they're saying we
Speaker 1: expect him back week one. How you know I expect
Speaker 1: to lose seventy five pounds before week one fits. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna talk it into existence, right, It's just gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So while I do think Kadarius Tony is a great
Speaker 1: wide receiver and he's so much fun to watch, and
Speaker 1: he commands targets like you said, and he fights for
Speaker 1: every inch of every blade of grass he is fighting for.
Speaker 1: That is why I love watching He is tough, he
Speaker 1: refuses to go down, but I think that might also
Speaker 1: lend towards his injury stuff. I also loved Kenneth Dixon,
Speaker 1: a running back at Louisiana Tech who just ran like
Speaker 1: you said, like he was angry at the ground and
Speaker 1: would fight for every extra inch and cause him fumble
Speaker 1: issues and then injury issues later in his career. So
Speaker 1: you know, I love the talent Canari is Tony. I
Speaker 1: love him in this offense, but I think I'd rather
Speaker 1: have Sky Moore, And I have reflected that in my
Speaker 1: rankings recently, which is not where I started because I
Speaker 1: am such a Canary as Tony guy as well, like
Speaker 1: you are. But you know he's not on the field, dude,
Speaker 1: He's just not on the field, so I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I can trust him. I got one more wide
Speaker 1: receiver and then you got a tight end to end
Speaker 1: us out. So I'm just gonna go ahead and flip
Speaker 1: this wide receiver out. And I'm gonna say, Fitzy that
Speaker 1: this is probably more of a rebuild move, right, My
Speaker 1: guys that are out there, you know, a dynasty league.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just joined and you're picking up a bad
Speaker 1: team like our boy franchise that we talked to every
Speaker 1: single Friday, and you're trying to make a couple moves
Speaker 1: on a deeper roster before the end of the season.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget about Michael Gallup, and Gallup looks to
Speaker 1: be down right now. It's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 1: With the trade that Brown and Brandon cooks, not forget
Speaker 1: that eighty nine targets evaporated with the departure of Schultz
Speaker 1: and seventy four more out the door in Dallas, with
Speaker 1: Noah Brown going to Houston as well. This year, Cooks
Speaker 1: will probably be the guy, but Gallup looks great in camp,
Speaker 1: and if he starts to look like pre injury Gallup
Speaker 1: u and he has so far in camp, Cooks, you know,
Speaker 1: he offers the second most cap space on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: roster if he were to be released next year. Zach
Speaker 1: Martin offers the most, but they're about to probably extend him,
Speaker 1: I would think, so, probably not going to be an
Speaker 1: option to cut. And this is a team that I
Speaker 1: believe they're twenty third in cap space, they're only six
Speaker 1: million under before free agency and rookie signings, so they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna be looking to make a move. Tolbert has
Speaker 1: also made a little noise in camp, So both of
Speaker 1: these guys look good this season, Gallop and Tolbert. Then
Speaker 1: I think the chances of Cook's being gone next year
Speaker 1: for cap space are probably increasing. And Gallop right now
Speaker 1: is wide receiver seventy four in ECR. He's a little
Speaker 1: higher on ADP at sixty three, but that's probably right
Speaker 1: around where he should be right now, and let's not
Speaker 1: forget before this injury, Michael Gallup came out like a stud.
Speaker 1: He came out like Gangbusters out of Colorado State. I
Speaker 1: definitely believed in him. Then I'm a little more down
Speaker 1: on him now, and I think you kind of have
Speaker 1: to be because he is third on this you know
Speaker 1: depth chart here, And I know you like Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 1: but I just don't know that Jake Ferguson in his
Speaker 1: first cracket starting is gonna command the type of targets
Speaker 1: that Dalton Schultz did. They got to go somewhere. Plus
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of targets gone from Noah Brown
Speaker 1: as well. So I think this should break out to
Speaker 1: Seedee Lamb is a one, Brandon Cooks is a two,
Speaker 1: Gallup is the three, and then probably Ferguson four in
Speaker 1: terms of targets and the depth chart, and Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: is gonna be in there as well. Being on the
Speaker 1: field more probably mean more targets for him. But see
Speaker 1: cats some targets, so let's just push them over to
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. So if we're doing math here, still probably
Speaker 1: throw on depth chart. Maybe not a buy right away,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're down, you're on a bad team.
Speaker 1: There are worst stashes to grab and take, especially knowing
Speaker 1: the financials on the back end with some of these guys. Now, look,
Speaker 1: you know, those can be a joke. Those could be
Speaker 1: completely rewritten and restructured, and the Cowboys could have a
Speaker 1: ton of cap space. You know, I don't know a
Speaker 1: ton about that stuff, but looking at it right now,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cook seems like the most obvious cut candidate before
Speaker 1: next season. And Gallup looks good in camp and he
Speaker 1: has been you know, he's been getting off press really well.
Speaker 1: And Trayvon Diggs, he's like one of the few guys
Speaker 1: at Treyvon Diggs hasn't really bottled up every single time. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just really excited about Gallup and I
Speaker 1: think he's pretty much free now. And I kind of
Speaker 1: had a debate on who to pick in this spot
Speaker 1: between him and because I still like Josh Palmer too,
Speaker 1: but I think I want to go with Gallup here.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about Gallup? And, like I said,
Speaker 1: probably more of a rebuild move, but your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't argue with him as a
Speaker 2: cheap investment, bogs. I mean, his talent has never really
Speaker 2: been the question. I think pretty much outkicked his draft
Speaker 2: position from the start. But now he doesn't really have
Speaker 2: youth on his side anymore. And I guess my main
Speaker 2: concern with him, even though he has flashed some ability
Speaker 2: and had some big time games, Like I wouldn't mind
Speaker 2: Gallup in a dynasty best ball, and I'm in a
Speaker 2: couple of those leagues, but like, there have been very
Speaker 2: few periods during his career where he has been a
Speaker 2: comfortable start in a managed league where you have to
Speaker 2: settle one, you know, like he's kind of one of
Speaker 2: those guys like I could flex him maybe in a
Speaker 2: league where you've got you know, two or three flex
Speaker 2: spots and have to go kind of deep with your
Speaker 2: starting lineup every week. So do I think he has startups?
Speaker 2: I know, not really, But do I think he could
Speaker 2: maybe become the sort of player who, if their injuries
Speaker 2: around him, suddenly has brief spurts of value and it's
Speaker 2: going to like pop off for some big games. Still, yes,
Speaker 2: I think Gallup's that kind of player. So and and
Speaker 2: no denying the price is cheap right now.
Speaker 1: So here's a couple guys, And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys in this area might be in the
Speaker 1: same neighborhood as Michael Gallup, right, like maybe Grab and
Speaker 1: Stash take a look at them. But a couple guys
Speaker 1: going above him right now, you tell me, uh, obj
Speaker 1: or Gallop? I think Gallop is probably a rental Zay Jones.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I keep seeing Za camp highlights bogs.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too caught up in those. That one's close,
Speaker 2: that one's really close, I see it.
Speaker 1: I just think that there's no opportunity for Za to
Speaker 1: be uh maybe even third on that offense, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley coming in, and they still have Kirk
Speaker 1: who's better than him, and Evan Ingram, so you know,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram does have a bit of an injury history.
Speaker 1: John Matchi's up there, and look, obviously I would take
Speaker 1: Machi over him, but I've talked about MATCHI. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find new guys here for you guys, So that's
Speaker 1: why I went with Gallup. Josh Palmer is right below him.
Speaker 1: He is a guy that I also had interested in,
Speaker 1: uh that I was also interested in Hunter Renfro also,
Speaker 1: but he is buried with guys. Rashid Shaheed.
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Shaheed, I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's fair. He's a little bit lower. Tank
Speaker 1: Dell is down there too. Another guy, uh that that
Speaker 1: you could find some risking, But I mean Gallup, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that Gallup could be number two.
Speaker 1: He might be better than Cook's by the end of the
Speaker 1: season if mother nature finally catches up to Cooks. And
Speaker 1: you know, Cooks has never really stuck around long wherever
Speaker 1: he is. He has not been very liked by coaches
Speaker 1: and teammates, so I don't know if that is just
Speaker 1: a weird coincidence or if that's something that he's doing.
Speaker 1: But you know, he has bounced around all over the NFL.
Speaker 1: All right, So I got my wide receiver in here
Speaker 1: for my last one. So that's all five of mine.
Speaker 1: Let's hear your last guy. You got a tight end
Speaker 1: here for us, all right.
Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up with Noah Fance bugs and fant
Speaker 2: is still only twenty five, even though he already has
Speaker 2: four NFL seasons under his belt. He had more than
Speaker 2: sixty catches and more than six hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 2: in his last each of his last two seasons with
Speaker 2: the Broncos in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. But
Speaker 2: Fan got to Seattle last year and played the fewest
Speaker 2: snaps he's played in any season since coming into the league,
Speaker 2: even though he played in all seventeen games for Seattle
Speaker 2: last year, so it's not like Fant was benched. He
Speaker 2: did play sixty percent of Seattle's offensive snaps, but it
Speaker 2: was a strange role reduction for a guy who averaged
Speaker 2: a very respectable seven point seven yards per target last
Speaker 2: year and had a catch rate of just under eighty percent.
Speaker 2: So Fan is still young, still one of the more
Speaker 2: athletic tight ends in the league. I don't know how
Speaker 2: the Seahawks are going to use him this year, but
Speaker 2: I do know that Fans slated to be an unrestricted
Speaker 2: free agent after twenty twenty three, So you know, if
Speaker 2: Seattle doesn't ramp up the usage, if he's still kind
Speaker 2: of an afterthought in this offense, there might be other
Speaker 2: teams willing to spend on a still pretty young, still
Speaker 2: very athletic tight end with some good seasons under his belt.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like this one a lot, And this one,
Speaker 1: to me is kind of like the Michael Gallup one
Speaker 1: as well, Like This is probably a move more for
Speaker 1: next year when he's gone, but also he's got an
Speaker 1: opportunity to score some touchdowns with Seattle and have some
Speaker 1: value this year. I would say it's less likely in
Speaker 1: Seattle for him to pop off because they added Jackson
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. Right, so now you have Metcalf and
Speaker 1: you have Lockett and you have JSN. So those guys
Speaker 1: should lead in targets, no question. And then you know,
Speaker 1: thrown to the backs, throwing to the tight ends and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I don't I'm not in on
Speaker 1: fan this year, but I thought he was better than
Speaker 1: Howkinson coming out, right, Like I had him one spot ahead.
Speaker 1: I also thought Hawkinson was amazing, and he is, but
Speaker 1: I was more of a Noah fan guy coming out,
Speaker 1: and he was more of the pass catcher at Iowa.
Speaker 1: Uh so, you know, which is kind of funny he's
Speaker 1: saying past catcher in Iowa. But you know, he was
Speaker 1: a great tight end there. He was one of the
Speaker 1: better tight end prospects coming out until we saw Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: And I still think it's in there. And like you said,
Speaker 1: he's still super you know, young because he came in
Speaker 1: the league at thirteen years old or whatever. I believe
Speaker 1: it was twenty one actually, but you know, still twenty
Speaker 1: five years old. Got a lot of meat left on
Speaker 1: the bone there for this guy to potentially grow. And
Speaker 1: you know, plenty of teams need a tight end. And
Speaker 1: if he shows just a little bit this year, he
Speaker 1: could become a feature tight end for someone next year.
Speaker 1: So a lot like my gallop move. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably one for next year.
Speaker 2: So fantas gotten cheap bogs, you could, you could probably,
Speaker 2: you could probably trade a bag of Funions for him.
Speaker 1: I do like Funians, but I don't have Noah fan
Speaker 1: rostered on many of my teams. Actually, I don't really
Speaker 1: like Funions. They're okay, but I'd rather have cool ranch
Speaker 1: Doritos if I'm looking for a chip. So I'll say
Speaker 1: that more of a Dorito's guy, But we can argue
Speaker 1: that on a different show than merits of Funians versus Dorito's.
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