Speaker 1: We like to welcome every one to another episode Against
Speaker 1: the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my guy Jill. Trump
Speaker 1: is in big trouble, man. Trump is in big trouble.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what ain't undead? What Trump
Speaker 1: done did? Now?
Speaker 2: They've been slapping Trump left and right a lot lately. Man,
Speaker 2: What's going on next?
Speaker 1: Exactly? This is Donald Trump's fourth criminal indictment in five months.
Speaker 1: But in a few ways the charge is brought by
Speaker 1: Georgia grand jury on Monday are some of the heftiest
Speaker 1: he's facing. Legally, they may be trickier for the former
Speaker 1: president to wiggle out of, and politically they pose fresh
Speaker 1: narrative challenges even for a candidate who has a solid
Speaker 1: grip on the GOP primary race. He's in trouble, man,
Speaker 1: They're saying. What they're saying now is that you know
Speaker 1: how he usually wiggles its way out of stuff. Mm
Speaker 1: it may it be a little bit more difficult for him.
Speaker 1: He may actually go to jail behind us man. Hum if.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what I believe is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna claim to be the
Speaker 1: biggest political pundit on the planet. But what I think
Speaker 1: is gonna happen is you're gonna have one of these
Speaker 1: other nominees jump on the back of this right here,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be their whole campaign platform. Is I'm
Speaker 1: going to I'm going to exonerate Donald Trump if I
Speaker 1: get an office, and all the Trump supporters gonna go
Speaker 1: vote for him.
Speaker 2: That could be a slick way to try to get
Speaker 2: ahead of you know, because like you said, I don't
Speaker 2: even think with all the shit that's going on with
Speaker 2: DT right now, he's still running, you feel me. He's
Speaker 2: still campaigning and running. So he's still running and doing it.
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, you know, but when when you
Speaker 2: got that power, man, you know, you know, motherfucker's wig
Speaker 2: a lot of shit when you in those positions. That's
Speaker 2: that's why I said I've never gotten too heavy in
Speaker 2: the politics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but check this out though. This is what's interesting.
Speaker 1: The butter door dog. Trump has been charged alongside eighteen
Speaker 1: the defendants, ranging from his high profile alleys like his
Speaker 1: former attorney Rudy Giuliani, a former White House Chief of
Speaker 1: Staff Mark Medals, to Trayvian Cutty, a former publicist who
Speaker 1: pressured an election worker. The falster admitted committee election fraud.
Speaker 1: See Trayvian Cutty. She used to be Kanye West's publicist.
Speaker 1: She was the main one down there pressing this old lady.
Speaker 1: Even went to her house and said, this woman needs protection.
Speaker 1: I was trying to scare the old lady. So she
Speaker 1: was really trying to press her into doing some shit
Speaker 1: she wasn't supposed to do. It was crazy, man. But
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of politics, and this has very little
Speaker 1: to do with politics for me. I understand that we
Speaker 1: want to keep Russia from gaining the strongholds. That's our
Speaker 1: biggest enemy or whatever. Right, But what I'm not understanding
Speaker 1: we've given millions of dollars to the Ukraine. Right now,
Speaker 1: they just named they just said that they're going to
Speaker 1: give him another two hundred million for the security fund
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right. We had the fires in Hawaii, the
Speaker 1: biggest fire ever in this country. From what I believe,
Speaker 1: people don't die, people don't lost their homes. Everything is
Speaker 1: what our president. You know what our great president just did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just sent them a check for seven hundred whole dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: several hundred whole dollars. You just just think about this.
Speaker 2: You don't got flamming, you got families jumping in the
Speaker 2: motherfucking ocean and shit, because everything is burnt. What the
Speaker 2: fuck is seven hundred dollars is gonna do? That's the thing, bro.
Speaker 2: Now now you sent two hundred million over to the Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I don't That's why I say I don't understand politics
Speaker 2: because I don't understand how or who decides who get what?
Speaker 1: Like do they? Is it?
Speaker 2: Because you know they got that saying that the enemy
Speaker 2: of my enemy or some shit, the.
Speaker 1: Enemy of my enemy is so.
Speaker 2: So I guess they looking at it like because we
Speaker 2: don't want to get into a boxing match with Russia.
Speaker 2: We want to stand on the side. But we're gonna
Speaker 2: We're gonna whatever y'all need. We're gonna support. Now who
Speaker 2: decides to where when you got Hawaii burning like it is?
Speaker 2: Who makes the decision to go with? Fucking let's just
Speaker 2: send them some honey.
Speaker 1: Exactly because me and you pay a lot of taxes
Speaker 1: every year, man.
Speaker 2: And then my thing is this, like right they set
Speaker 2: aside moneys or whatever, and then they always talking about
Speaker 2: we in deficits and shit, right, but miraculously we can
Speaker 2: come up with billions and billions right to.
Speaker 1: Allocate everything else.
Speaker 2: And now I'm not saying that it's you know, we
Speaker 2: don't want to see nobody suffer and attack. You know,
Speaker 2: that's the that's the American way. You know, motherfucker scream help.
Speaker 2: Were going over there to body power motherfuckers. We got
Speaker 2: the guns, we got everything. But it always seems like
Speaker 2: when it come to problems at home, we can never
Speaker 2: fix problems at home.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're going to have the homegirl tisling
Speaker 1: for girl come on the show, and I think that'd
Speaker 1: be a good idea to have Tears come on and
Speaker 1: talk about the infrastructure of our government when it comes
Speaker 1: to things like that, who gets money, who gets allocated what?
Speaker 1: Because all I can see right now is living out
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. You got people living outside on
Speaker 1: the side of the freeways. Definitely, you have a huge
Speaker 1: homeless problem across the country. Yeah, you have the situation
Speaker 1: that's going on Hawaii. I could think of a number
Speaker 1: of issues that we have on our own home front
Speaker 1: that this money could be allocated to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have used two hundred million. But then
Speaker 2: it's always a saying of I don't know, it's some
Speaker 2: slick backwards shit that we ain't gonna do right, or
Speaker 2: motherfucker's always undercutting shit when it comes to us here,
Speaker 2: and then a lot of the times it be you know,
Speaker 2: our own people and shit. So yeah, I like to
Speaker 2: have the homegirl tesling on here. So I like to
Speaker 2: you know, find out, you know, who decides, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because like I said, I'm not political,
Speaker 2: but it would be interesting to know who who has
Speaker 2: that right of the pen to go get these motherfuckers
Speaker 2: a billion and then get these motherfucker seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: And that's where Teeslam is great at. You know what
Speaker 1: Teslam is good at. Tesslam is good at breaking down
Speaker 1: the whole political landscape for the average person sitting there. Definitely,
Speaker 1: because the average person sitting at home doesn't go out
Speaker 1: of vote to get into politics because it seems like
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that's not common sense. It's not
Speaker 1: rooted in common sense. Because if I'm in my house
Speaker 1: and my kids are hungry, what sense does it make
Speaker 1: for me to walk down the street and take the
Speaker 1: family down the street to dinner. Exactly my kids at
Speaker 1: home hungry. It's almost like that's what the American government
Speaker 1: is set up to do. We don't take care of home.
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you the hypocrisy of this all.
Speaker 1: I remember when Glasses was standing in this loft. He
Speaker 1: was standing in this loft downtown, and it was expensive. Man,
Speaker 1: he was paying fire like twenty grand a month to
Speaker 1: stay in there, no shit. But to walk in there,
Speaker 1: you have to walk over homeless people. And I said, man,
Speaker 1: this is typical right here. We walk over the homeless
Speaker 1: to get to the kind of light to the promised
Speaker 1: land a little bit. And those people and I just
Speaker 1: looked at it. I stood back for like five minutes
Speaker 1: and just checked it out because I said, all these
Speaker 1: people going in their building, they on their cell phones
Speaker 1: or whatever. They walking into this building, but they walk.
Speaker 1: It's almost like the homeless people were invisible, like THEYMN
Speaker 1: got so accustomed to them being out there. Because I
Speaker 1: saw a guy walking down street, he on his cell phone.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked him for some change, he just ignored him
Speaker 1: and kept on going this way. And me, I've always
Speaker 1: been a type of floss I can't like, especially if
Speaker 1: it's a kid or a woman. It's something anybody. If
Speaker 1: I got a few dollars in my pocket. I usually
Speaker 1: here you go, man, you need this more to me
Speaker 1: because I can go home, open my refixederator and eat
Speaker 1: for we are really fortunate, man, and I count my
Speaker 1: blessings every day. And this leads me to something, man,
Speaker 1: that I wanted to really talk about the night for
Speaker 1: the meet, to show we are really living in a
Speaker 1: credulous society right now, man, to where people would rather
Speaker 1: believe a lie rather than the truth. That's always uh.
Speaker 1: Nowadays it's not about the truth. Uh.
Speaker 2: Nowadays it's about just getting the story out to motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: And I don't give a fuck if it's the truth
Speaker 2: for a lie, I just want to broadcast some bullshit.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what it's came down to, man, there's
Speaker 1: some people out there that make a lot of money
Speaker 1: off these platforms, right right, So you got a case
Speaker 1: of people really being intellectually lazy nowadays. Instead of going
Speaker 1: to go do research, you know how to come in,
Speaker 1: I'll call you a and say, okay, we go kind
Speaker 1: of talk about this this, right, we get the subjects
Speaker 1: together or whatever, just together. Our show is more of
Speaker 1: a long form conversation, so it's not really no just
Speaker 1: big focal point. We don't just go in on something.
Speaker 1: We have a regular conversation about it like you would
Speaker 1: with a hommy and the hood, right, just to get
Speaker 1: down the route of stuff. We don't claim to have
Speaker 1: all the answers, but it's some things if we're deem
Speaker 1: it important to talk about, we talk about it. Definitely.
Speaker 1: I think we lived in the era right now, man,
Speaker 1: where the truth is almost like taboo nowa days. You know,
Speaker 1: people even I believe and I don't. I'm not a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist at all, but you even have certain people, man,
Speaker 1: it seemed like they disappear if they tell the truth
Speaker 1: about certain stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful and shit like the wrong
Speaker 2: that being truthful nowadays might get you in the world
Speaker 2: of trouble on shit, even though you're just trying to
Speaker 2: put out information.
Speaker 1: You feel me so, yeah, But you know what, I've
Speaker 1: always felt like it's our duty, man, because on the
Speaker 1: podcast we got a substantial amount of listeners right right,
Speaker 1: and I feel it's almost destructive to not do your
Speaker 1: research or something, because like the other day, I got
Speaker 1: a text message from somebody and that's afford from somebody
Speaker 1: else that one of the homies had passed away. I
Speaker 1: got a text rest in peace, Black Tone. Okay, Now
Speaker 1: this person sent this out without doing the research and
Speaker 1: nothing to find out if it's true before I especially
Speaker 1: when it's a death or something like that important. I
Speaker 1: always like to call people a very five before I
Speaker 1: put out certain information because you can have somebody's mama
Speaker 1: at home that don't know nothing about this, and next
Speaker 1: thing you know, she looking at the Internet and see
Speaker 1: rest in Peace such and such. Now she's about to
Speaker 1: have a heart attack because she don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with her kid. But it's not even true, so
Speaker 1: she's blowing her kid up or whatever to find out
Speaker 1: if this is true. But it turned out to be
Speaker 1: Black Tone's father, Rest in peace, Earnest. But that's just
Speaker 1: one of the primary examples.
Speaker 2: People just go off or people just put out whatever,
Speaker 2: like I said, without fact checking and shit.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what the problem is. Eight
Speaker 1: Who I blame? I blame you? You catch up? You y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all do all this because people are so consumed about
Speaker 1: bullshit nowadays, we would have a bigger range of topics
Speaker 1: if that's what people wanted to hear. Yeah, but when
Speaker 1: you coming with some stuff that's edifying. They don't want
Speaker 1: to hear that, bro. They would rather hear a lot.
Speaker 1: They would rather hear well, eight did this, I heard
Speaker 1: he did this. I heard still debt.
Speaker 2: Rumors intrigue people, man, I mean shit rumors intrigue motherfuckers
Speaker 2: to where. I mean, you see this shit just over
Speaker 2: just over shit like videos or fucking just conversations or
Speaker 2: people don't give a fuck about what the truth is.
Speaker 2: Really the aspect is just let me put out some shit.
Speaker 2: Got I'm like, I see this shit all the time.
Speaker 2: But I guess it's now the days of people want
Speaker 2: to be the first one to broadcast some shit you
Speaker 2: give me because that makes them go viral or there
Speaker 2: makes them get a gang of clicks or likes, so
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck they after. But like I said, today
Speaker 2: is the day of shit, nigga, I don't care if
Speaker 2: it's the truth. I'm gonna be the first one to
Speaker 2: broadcast the shit so my motherfucking page can blow up
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 1: That's all people care about now. People care about those clicks, views,
Speaker 1: likes and all that the other stuff. Man, It's social
Speaker 1: currency has become the new stand. If you ask the
Speaker 1: average kid today nowadays, what he would rather have? Would
Speaker 1: he rather have ten twenty thousand dollars in his pocket
Speaker 1: or cracking ass Instagram pledge. Most of those kids go
Speaker 1: say the cracking ass.
Speaker 2: Instagram Yeah, you know, definitely, because they feel I can
Speaker 2: generate more income off the cracking page. You know, that's
Speaker 2: the end goal, you know, And you can't make some
Speaker 2: money out there, man, But at what point does it
Speaker 2: become too much?
Speaker 1: Because I really believe the area that we're living in
Speaker 1: right now, man, somebody's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful with the information you put out, man.
Speaker 2: It's especially coming from you know, the walks of life
Speaker 2: in the streets that Nigga's been into. It can get
Speaker 2: treacherous and dangerous by putting out false information or you know,
Speaker 2: by just spreading rumors or talking, you know, because now
Speaker 2: everybody wants to prove you know, they're worth or how tough,
Speaker 2: or their authority. And then you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: motherfuckers will get into a world of trouble by just
Speaker 2: broadcasting shit they know nothing about.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It just amazes me how and the shit is crazy
Speaker 2: because a lot of these motherfuckers be older motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. It's all that's a scary part
Speaker 1: about it, bro.
Speaker 2: Like, it's crazy to know that a nigga you know
Speaker 2: my age, want to be you know, or older and
Speaker 2: influenced by this life of social media.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. It's just different from me. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what it is, man, You have a lane
Speaker 1: right now. It's almost easy money. Like it's easy money.
Speaker 1: You know. You go in front of a camera a
Speaker 1: couple hours, if we can talk shit, you can make
Speaker 1: anywhere from seven thousand dollars a month only ten fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month, just sitting on your ass at
Speaker 1: home telling them lies.
Speaker 2: But what happens is and then I'm tell motherfuckers, like
Speaker 2: everybody want to be famous today that that that bug
Speaker 2: has really bitten a lot of motherfuckers, Like you see, mother,
Speaker 2: people do anything to become famous. And whether it's controversy,
Speaker 2: making a fool of themselves or fucking I'm gonna swallow
Speaker 2: a gallon of fucking dishwashing liquid.
Speaker 1: Or or I'm.
Speaker 2: People will go through all fucking extremes nowadays to be
Speaker 2: social media famous. You feel me, like it just amazes me, man,
Speaker 2: who who niggas want to be like, nobody won't be
Speaker 2: normal no more. Everybody wants to join this fucking world
Speaker 2: of of podcasting or controversy or whatever. And then it's
Speaker 2: ridiculous for some niggas because they ain't got shit to
Speaker 2: talk about. But you see, it's like the new rap.
Speaker 2: This is the new oak game or the new rap game.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Start your podcast, get on
Speaker 2: and start talking shit about somebody, and you're gonna blow
Speaker 2: the fuck up. But anyway, I'm peeping out this story too,
Speaker 2: about you know, because nigga loves some some sports man,
Speaker 2: some football, some shit like that. What do you think
Speaker 2: about the Michael or shit, the Michael Orr stuff. I
Speaker 2: don't know what to think about it.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that when they go out to
Speaker 1: make these movies on people's lives, they tend to umbellish.
Speaker 1: You almost have to umbel It's just a little bit
Speaker 1: because you know, you're putting a story together, and so
Speaker 1: in between you telling the main thesis of your story,
Speaker 1: the main premise of your story, you have the little
Speaker 1: things in the back around the little nuance. It's like
Speaker 1: somebody's stopping at the story though you may not have
Speaker 1: stopped the story during the extual time, just little stuff
Speaker 1: to make the movie go.
Speaker 2: It sucked up because I liked it. I like the
Speaker 2: movie and to think that, you know, motherfuckers, but you know,
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be shocking to motherfuckers to know that people
Speaker 2: take advantage of the underprivileged.
Speaker 1: You feel me, you know what they're bro.
Speaker 2: And then the situation, you know, he can't like a
Speaker 2: lot of us, low income family poverty, stricten living in
Speaker 2: the projects, you know. So like he's saying, there was
Speaker 2: all a plot to begin with.
Speaker 1: So Michael or As saying this as well.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, he's saying it was a plot to begin
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: But you know what I think though, man by me
Speaker 1: being fortunate enough to have a son in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's in the second year with the Seahawks. Now, as
Speaker 1: you know, those kids go through a lot of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: So for you know, for any parent in high school
Speaker 1: thing about their kid going to the NFL, that's a
Speaker 1: good dream to have, but it's very very it's howly
Speaker 1: unlikely that they are going to go to the NFL.
Speaker 1: You understand what I mean when you talk about odds,
Speaker 1: You know, whenever you have something in which people make
Speaker 1: a lot of money, it gets more and more crowded.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, and her kind of gets
Speaker 1: thinner as far as who's going to get shows the
Speaker 1: higher up you go, like right, like it's like in
Speaker 1: Pop Warner. You tell the kids, you know, all those
Speaker 1: kids that you have in the park, it may be
Speaker 1: only one percent of your team that actually goes on
Speaker 1: to high school and gets an athletic scholarship. You understand
Speaker 1: what I mean. Some of those kids may not even
Speaker 1: play football in high school. Then you get to the
Speaker 1: high school level, right, only a small percentage of those
Speaker 1: kids are going to go off and go on to college.
Speaker 1: And in college, only a small percentage of those kids
Speaker 1: are going to make it to the NFL. Because everybody
Speaker 1: in the NFL is good, bro from the guy that's
Speaker 1: the first The different inso between the first round pick
Speaker 1: guy the first round, the guy drafted in the first round,
Speaker 1: and the guy drafted in the seventh eighth round is
Speaker 1: very minute. It's like, this is little things like work ethic, attitude.
Speaker 1: The guy that got drafted in the seventh round might
Speaker 1: have had might might have had a problem the weed
Speaker 1: or whatever. Just little things, you know, which could cost
Speaker 1: him to slide. That's why the majority of the NFL
Speaker 1: is made up of free agency low round draft picks.
Speaker 1: Because even with the guys that get drafted in the
Speaker 1: first round year, they get a bag of money, but
Speaker 1: they got an immense amount of pressure on them. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if this lady looked at this kid
Speaker 1: in high school and said, you know what, I'm going
Speaker 1: to help him because one day he may become a
Speaker 1: famous football player. I don't know, And I want to
Speaker 1: practice what I preached, because, like we just talked about,
Speaker 1: the truth is just not a slatis and juicy as
Speaker 1: a lie. Yeah this sounds you know, so these people
Speaker 1: could have had very well had good intentions, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why Michael Orr would have
Speaker 1: a reason to lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he feeling like he was exploited because
Speaker 2: you know, apparently they've made millions of dollars off the shit.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't make too much money that I
Speaker 2: could be it too.
Speaker 1: You never know, man could be a thing to where
Speaker 1: they just feeling like they invested a lot of time
Speaker 1: in that dude and they benefiting from him. Right, Because
Speaker 1: again I'm I'm really choosing to roll the dice if
Speaker 1: I go pick a big six seven, three hundred pound
Speaker 1: kid off on the street and say I'm gonna work
Speaker 1: this dude. I'm gonna feed them, clothe and provide for
Speaker 1: him with hopes of him going to the NFL one day.
Speaker 1: And plus from what I understand, these people have money
Speaker 1: already supposedly, you know, supposed that they have money or
Speaker 1: could have that could have been a part of the
Speaker 1: film that was embellished. I wasn't there, you know, we
Speaker 1: wasn't here to make a judgment, but I would say this,
Speaker 1: if they did do that to that kid, that's messed up.
Speaker 1: If that was their whole thing and it worked out
Speaker 1: for him, but it was a good chance it couldn't
Speaker 1: have worked out. You know, it could have went either way.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I can understand where he coming
Speaker 2: from because you can kindly put situations of young of
Speaker 2: young black dudes from the neighborhood who get exploited. Shit,
Speaker 2: I was a motherfucker who got exploited. I was seventeen
Speaker 2: years old when I didn't know nothing about royalties or publishing,
Speaker 2: and the motherfucker came in and took all that shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because they felt like, oh, you know, motherfucker don't know
Speaker 2: so hey that I don't know. Motherfuckers just don't give
Speaker 2: muff to just do of the work they put in.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because guess they felt like they deserved,
Speaker 2: you know, more like yeah.
Speaker 1: But then this picture they look happy.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's then you know, of course shit gonna
Speaker 2: come out down the line. Like he said, they guarantee
Speaker 2: they made sure that their kids got millions of dollars
Speaker 2: off the shit, off the whole story, off the whole
Speaker 2: So I think his main right maybe ask you what
Speaker 2: I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read this. Michael o' here, the subject
Speaker 1: of the hit two thousand and nine movie The blind Side,
Speaker 1: has come forward with allegations that the Wilthy two Uwie
Speaker 1: family established the conservativeship in which they profited from his name, image,
Speaker 1: and likeness, and now members of the Towey family are
Speaker 1: now speaking out. The thirty seven year old former NFL
Speaker 1: offensive lineman filed a petition Monday asking that Shelby County,
Speaker 1: Tennessee Probate Court for the established Conservative ship he dissolved
Speaker 1: in court documents. O Here argued that the Twoy's convinced
Speaker 1: him to sign documents that agreed to the Conservatives Ship
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. The two thousand and four
Speaker 1: Conservative Ship filling claims that o'here wanted the Twis to
Speaker 1: be his legal guardians up until he became twenty five
Speaker 1: years old, or until the Conservative Ship was dissolved by
Speaker 1: a court beforehand. O'haire's petition five Monday stated this Conservative
Speaker 1: ship is unnecessary as Michael O'Hare is capable of handling
Speaker 1: his own affairs. Shine Towey, the Twey family patriarch, told
Speaker 1: The Daily Memphian that none of O'Hare's allegations are true.
Speaker 1: We didn't make any money off the movie, the sixty
Speaker 1: three year old sports commentator told the Daily Memphics, and
Speaker 1: he heard the news of the laws touit after friends
Speaker 1: in him the article from ESPN, who first reported the story.
Speaker 1: This could be just a misunderstanding, but I feel where
Speaker 1: he could feel some kind of way. Yet, is that
Speaker 1: you know we did this? How old is he? Shit?
Speaker 1: Why he's twenty five now? No, he's not twenty five.
Speaker 1: At the time, it said that the Conservative ship they
Speaker 1: had would go on till he was twenty five or whatever.
Speaker 2: Or a judge dissolved it. So apparently they are still
Speaker 2: running the Conservative ship. That's that Britney Spears shit. It's
Speaker 2: that same shit. Now look at this. I kind of
Speaker 2: ride with the like I don't know. Again, not to
Speaker 2: call Michael no lie right.
Speaker 1: Two He told the local Memphis newspaper that Michael Lewis,
Speaker 1: the author of the book that The Blindside Felm is
Speaker 1: based on, gave his family half of the share of
Speaker 1: profits from the book, saying that everybody in the Tweed
Speaker 1: family got an equal share, including Michael, of about fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars each. You know them book advances aren't really
Speaker 1: that big, right, So okay, we were never yeah, let
Speaker 1: me go on. We were never offered money. We never
Speaker 1: asked for money. My money is well documented. You can
Speaker 1: look up how much I sold my company for it. Two,
Speaker 1: he said the Conservative ship at the center of the
Speaker 1: petition filed money. Two, he said, had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the movie, telling the Daily Memphian it was a
Speaker 1: way to satisfy the Ncuba. When it appeared o'here might
Speaker 1: play football at the University of Mississippi, Michael was obviously
Speaker 1: living with us for a long time, and then ncuble
Speaker 1: A didn't like that too. He said. They said the
Speaker 1: only way Michael could go to the Old Myss was
Speaker 1: if he was actually part of the family. Twi said
Speaker 1: he sat Michael down and told him, if you're planning
Speaker 1: to go to old Myths or even considering Old miss
Speaker 1: we think you should have to be part of the family.
Speaker 1: This would do that legally, TWI said. If oh Here
Speaker 1: wants to end the Conservative ship now, he would of
Speaker 1: course be willing to end it. He also told The
Speaker 1: Daily Memphian that he began his sense of growing distance
Speaker 1: between old Here and the two we's starting a year
Speaker 1: and a half ago. We're devastated. It's upsetting to think
Speaker 1: we would make money off of any of our children,
Speaker 1: tw he said. But we're going to love Michael at
Speaker 1: thirty seven, just like we loved him at sixteen.
Speaker 2: So at thirty seven, why are you still running his shit?
Speaker 2: Why do you feel that when he turned twenty five,
Speaker 2: Why didn't you just say we're gonna break this shit.
Speaker 2: Why is it fucking thirty years later and you're still
Speaker 2: holding his shit?
Speaker 1: Why? Yeah, no, this is his side. This is what
Speaker 1: he's saying while the blind side went on to make
Speaker 1: over three hundred million at the global box office. O'here
Speaker 1: alleged he received nothing from the film, while the Two
Speaker 1: Wee's made millions, according to the petition. Additionally, in February
Speaker 1: of this year, O'Hair said he discovered that legally he
Speaker 1: was not actually a part of the Towey family. In
Speaker 1: the film, it was portrayed that O'Hare was adopted by
Speaker 1: the Two We's after he begins sporadically staying with the
Speaker 1: family the summer after his junior year of high school.
Speaker 1: According to the petition, the Twoey's invited O'Hare to live
Speaker 1: with them next July and was later presented with the
Speaker 1: Conservative ship. What he signed, however, unknown to Michael until
Speaker 1: after February twenty twenty three, were not adoption papers order
Speaker 1: equivalent of adoption papers. The petition that legs NPR's multiple
Speaker 1: requests for comment from both Lee and Tuey and the
Speaker 1: Twey family's nonprofit organization Make It Happen were not immediately answered.
Speaker 1: Michael o'her in his attorney, also did not immediately respond
Speaker 1: to NPR's requests for comments, so.
Speaker 2: He said he thought he was signing adoption papers. From
Speaker 2: what he was signing was conservative ship, meaning that we
Speaker 2: would control everything, your likeness, image, money, everything, We control that.
Speaker 1: You know, what our producers say in the background is
Speaker 1: that the Tui family legally perched them a big six seven,
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, a big nigga they want out have
Speaker 1: bought them a big nigga money off. You know what.
Speaker 1: That might become a thing in the South though, man,
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of dudes to stay in fucked
Speaker 1: up environments. That might be the new thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you look at that as a
Speaker 2: as a I mean, like I said, I said, every time,
Speaker 2: if a nigga can fuck you, he gonna fuck you
Speaker 2: if you think he can get away with it. Right,
Speaker 2: So do you can ship with the Britney Spears shit?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What they thought? She was plumb loco? Right, she can't
Speaker 2: handle her shit. So who the daddy or somebody was
Speaker 2: running the conservative shit? Okay? Then, even though after all
Speaker 2: this time, she like, why y'all still running my shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And you know the part of this I can't
Speaker 1: understand me and you both have her own biological children,
Speaker 1: right right. My son is a fireman. My oldest son
Speaker 1: is a fireman. He makes really good money. I don't
Speaker 1: ever ask him for dim that's his money, right, Chris
Speaker 1: doing this thing? I ain't never told Chris, hey man,
Speaker 1: I did this for you when you was a kid.
Speaker 1: I drove you to all these practices, took you to
Speaker 1: all these trailer Let me get something, and you know
Speaker 1: how much that costs. Damn. I spent the bag on Chris,
Speaker 1: but I'll spend bags on all my children to ensure
Speaker 1: their futures success. Is that they don't owe me nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't look back nothing from them. Now. You know, Chris,
Speaker 1: if you're hearing this right enough, you want to go
Speaker 1: on to bout Pops. You make that fiftye man Ross,
Speaker 1: you want to go and give me the f one fifty.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna stop you where three fifty? You know
Speaker 1: you can't bless? Yeah you get a double shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he don't owe me nothing, bro. I did that
Speaker 1: because I wanted to see Mark's children be successful. And
Speaker 1: at twenty five, they damn sure grown enough to handle
Speaker 1: their own stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely, And and and sometimes you gotta Sometimes you're
Speaker 2: gonna make mistakes, but that's how you learn from them.
Speaker 2: Uh to me, I look at that like, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody who just want to be in total control of
Speaker 2: somebody's life. You know, your finance is what you do,
Speaker 2: you know whatever, whatever. I think that's a bit extreme. Now,
Speaker 2: somebody really has issues in their mental and you know
Speaker 2: they're sitting on a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Of course you can't.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you gotta look out for him, cause
Speaker 2: somebody to look out for him. But at what point
Speaker 2: do you go, Okay, let's try to let you work
Speaker 2: your own shit.
Speaker 1: Well, I give you a prime example. Chris his first
Speaker 1: year in the league. You know, he was expected to
Speaker 1: be drafted, but he wasn't. He wound up going as
Speaker 1: he initially went to Pittsburgh first week of the season,
Speaker 1: they released him, but he went to Miami. He went
Speaker 1: played for Dolphins the next day. He got picked up
Speaker 1: next day, and he was on a practice squad with
Speaker 1: them for a whole year. Then, you know, you went
Speaker 1: through the whole thing of the quarterback getting hurt down there.
Speaker 1: They had to make had guys coming off of I,
Speaker 1: you know, I R so they had to make room
Speaker 1: on the roster. Right. So I'll tell you this now.
Speaker 1: When Chris first went down to Miami again, he's a kid,
Speaker 1: but that's his money. I suggested to him, I said, dude,
Speaker 1: why don't you just stay in a hotel for now,
Speaker 1: you know, until you fully, you know, see how the
Speaker 1: situation plays out. Because in the NFL a number of
Speaker 1: different things cappened. It's a business, exactly, and if a guy,
Speaker 1: if a quarterback, gets hurt, that impacts your status, especially
Speaker 1: the lower you are in down team. And for those
Speaker 1: that don't know what the practice squad else, the practice
Speaker 1: squad they do everything with the team, practice with them
Speaker 1: and everything. They just don't get to play in the
Speaker 1: games exactly. But they make a whole bunch of money
Speaker 1: to practice. Pretty much, they make a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: money to practice. They're professional football players. But anyone can
Speaker 1: get plucked off that practice squad team at any time.
Speaker 1: Like if I'm like, let's say that the Raiders looking
Speaker 1: for a corner, they could call on the thing and saying, okay,
Speaker 1: instead of bringing the older guy back when he played
Speaker 1: no football in a few years, let's get this kid off,
Speaker 1: you know, snatch this kid out of Miami. He got
Speaker 1: fresh slaves. Let's bring him in. But if they bring
Speaker 1: you in, they got to put you on the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. But with the uncertainty of this business,
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, hey, why don't you wait
Speaker 1: before you do this. Now, I'm gonna go get this man.
Speaker 1: He went and got him a Laide spread, had his
Speaker 1: spread laid out, furniture and everything. I looked at it.
Speaker 1: One day he faced Timmy. I said, damn, you live
Speaker 1: in Largs. Guess what happens two weeks later, time ago,
Speaker 1: your boy. Two it gets hurt. Two, it gets hurt.
Speaker 1: They got a guy that's coming off of ir they
Speaker 1: got another offensive line and it's hurt. So they have
Speaker 1: to bring somebody in. So with that happening, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to bring some of those guys off the active
Speaker 1: roster and put him on the practice roster. Exactly. They
Speaker 1: go through there. Okay, some will have to let you go.
Speaker 1: They only have so much room on a team. But
Speaker 1: I said all this to say this, I could have
Speaker 1: told my son and been more vocal about, man, you
Speaker 1: better not go spend money on that crib, but don't
Speaker 1: do this, don't buy that car, don't do this. But
Speaker 1: that's his money. Yeah, he had to learn a lesson.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta let your kids make little mistakes so
Speaker 1: they'll see what you're talking about is real.
Speaker 2: You have to, like, you know, it's nothing better than
Speaker 2: learning from experience first you can know what not to do.
Speaker 2: You know, I did a lot of dumb shit when
Speaker 2: I was young, spending money on this and that. You know,
Speaker 2: and you learn. You became very to where now when
Speaker 2: you get money and checks. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: that shit goes into savings and shit. There's nothing that
Speaker 2: I haven't had wanted being or whatever you feel me,
Speaker 2: I went through that stage. But sometimes it's better to
Speaker 2: let a motherfucker experience so they learn, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I tell my son, I tell anybody you
Speaker 2: give me you live, and you learn from from shit exactly.
Speaker 1: And I went all you know, I went, took that
Speaker 1: roundabout way just to give that example because it's his
Speaker 1: money and I want him to learn because you know,
Speaker 1: this year a whole different kid, whole different kid. All
Speaker 1: his focuss is on being a contributor to the team,
Speaker 1: nothing else. He not. You know, everybody has goals and aspirations,
Speaker 1: but you have to wait until you achieve certain things.
Speaker 1: It's like I tell my my family members at home, right.
Speaker 1: I tell my family and this is more for life,
Speaker 1: not my immediate household, but the cousins, you know, uncles,
Speaker 1: the aunt teas and everybody. Because see people that really
Speaker 1: think you're rich, I let them know. Look, I'm making
Speaker 1: a living that can end at any time. Definitely. I
Speaker 1: have multiple things that I do to make money. Though
Speaker 1: I'm a manager. We do this podcast, we got the
Speaker 1: TV stuff that we're doing now. It's other things that
Speaker 1: I do to make money. Right, But I am not
Speaker 1: rich by any stretch of the imagination. And you really,
Speaker 1: you may think you're rich when you're younger because you
Speaker 1: got this much money. It's the most money you've ever
Speaker 1: had until you start getting around other motherfuckers who really rich,
Speaker 1: and you realize, Man, I ain't got no money. I'm
Speaker 1: not rich. You got to steal grind. I'm not rich, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like everyone else. I got a job, man, And
Speaker 1: if I make the only thing I have is the
Speaker 1: security of being allowed to make maybe one or two
Speaker 1: small mistakes. But I make a major mistake, I could
Speaker 1: be throughful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful with shit nowadays, man, I
Speaker 2: try to be careful with I try to be careful
Speaker 2: and watch what I do. Like I said, you go
Speaker 2: through experiences and then you change shit up. People want
Speaker 2: to think you different or you got soft, or you
Speaker 2: don't turn and being somebody different. But man, that's just
Speaker 2: growing up and maturing and learning from the experiences. So
Speaker 2: h you try to instill that in people you fuck with,
Speaker 2: your kids or whoever you feel.
Speaker 1: Me that's that's one hundred percent. You know what, man
Speaker 1: speaking the mistakes. Man, they don't give your boy some
Speaker 1: serious time. Man, Tory Lanez is getting a man ten
Speaker 1: years Oh my gosh, ten years when really I was
Speaker 1: seeing the whole time when they offered him that first deal,
Speaker 1: when they offer due the first deal, I think he
Speaker 1: should have took it. Me and Glass was talking about
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I think Tory should have took that deal.
Speaker 1: He would have been out by now.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't put myself in those situations like that.
Speaker 2: And I still don't know what the fuck happened. I mean,
Speaker 2: I did the nigga shooter, Like what the fuck? What
Speaker 2: I think? What I mean? Did he come down to that?
Speaker 1: And why? Why? Shit at the end of the day, why, well,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: Man, this is what I don't wish jail upon No nigga,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But hey, sometimes we make
Speaker 2: motherfucking mistakes, and you know how that shit work when
Speaker 2: it comes to the motherfucking pop pole, Nigga, you can't
Speaker 2: slide out.
Speaker 1: Of shit, especially out in California with the gun. I
Speaker 1: tell all the homies all the time, they got the
Speaker 1: rough gun laws here. We got rough gun laws. I
Speaker 1: tell the homies on fourth of July New Year's that
Speaker 1: want to go in their backyard and pop their pistols.
Speaker 1: I tell them all the time. Man, I said, Man,
Speaker 1: you miss around to go to jail man fucking with
Speaker 1: them guns like that. Man, California is not like Ohio
Speaker 1: and Ohio. We get to walk around with our pistols. Texas.
Speaker 1: You could walk around with your pistol Atlanta. You could
Speaker 1: walk around with your pistol out here. If I went
Speaker 1: outside right now and pop and somebody sees it and
Speaker 1: calls the police and not get caught, I am going
Speaker 1: to jail loawfully discharge the fhe home. Yeah, we got this.
Speaker 1: We got some bad gun laws here. But you know
Speaker 1: we got some of the roughest gang shit here too,
Speaker 1: So you know, uh, you fall on the sword with
Speaker 1: that one because you carry your pistol here and you
Speaker 1: get caught.
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, I didn't. I done got caught with
Speaker 2: pistols three times. You know what I'm saying. There's no
Speaker 2: way around it. Thank gods, you weren't Poplar. You went
Speaker 2: to jail every time. Goddamn right, every time. They're looking
Speaker 2: looking for prison time too. They don't be playing and shit,
Speaker 2: so they don't.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna read the Tory Lanes case. So what
Speaker 1: they gave him? Ten years? Yep? Here it is right here,
Speaker 1: Canadian Repertory Lane. About it? Do about fucking you? Do
Speaker 1: about maybe eight? I don't know. We go see right here.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna check it out and see what they
Speaker 1: got going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canadian Repertory Lanes was
Speaker 1: sending us to ten years in prison after he was
Speaker 1: found guilty of shooting hip hop superstar Megan the Stallion
Speaker 1: and The Foot after the Pier left the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: party in twenty twenty. The hearing began Morey and wrapped
Speaker 1: up Tuesday, ending a high profile case in which Meghan
Speaker 1: twenty eight, was subjected to what prosecutors called repeated and
Speaker 1: grotesque acts. It cast the spotlight and the scrutiny black
Speaker 1: women face when they report abuse. Lanes, whose real name
Speaker 1: is Dave Star Peterson, shot Meghan, the three time Grammy
Speaker 1: winner whose legal name is Megan Pete, after a party
Speaker 1: at the Hollywood Hills home of reality star makeup Mogo
Speaker 1: colleague Jenner. On July twelve, twenty twenty, a jury convicted
Speaker 1: Lane's thirty one, who pleaded not guilty of three felon
Speaker 1: accounts in December, assault with a semi automatic firearm, carrying
Speaker 1: a loaded, unregsed firearm and a vehicle, and discharging your
Speaker 1: firearm with grosst negligence. Wearing an orange jumpsuit, Lanes addressed
Speaker 1: the court before the judge handed down his sentence. He
Speaker 1: apologized for his actions and said he took full responsibility
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty shooting. If I could change it,
Speaker 1: I would, but I can't. He said. Everything I did
Speaker 1: that night, I take full responsibility. He added, I truly
Speaker 1: am just trying to be a better person. Lanes looked
Speaker 1: surprised to remain quiet after the sins was announced. The
Speaker 1: mother of his son burst into tears that she was
Speaker 1: led out of the court room. Matthew Barhom, a member
Speaker 1: of Lane's legal team said appeals for both the sentence
Speaker 1: and the convention are playing. The team will lost a
Speaker 1: file for bail win of the appeals, the sentence and
Speaker 1: handing down his sentence. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge David
Speaker 1: herefore It said it was difficult to reconcile the doting
Speaker 1: father and committeed for philanthropists. Many described with the person
Speaker 1: who fired the gun five times at Megan, sometimes good
Speaker 1: people do bad things. Harry First said, actions have consequences
Speaker 1: and there are no winners in this case. Deputy District
Speaker 1: Attorney Alex Boss said Lanez called Meghan the liar, intimidated
Speaker 1: her in the raster. Not only did the defendant due
Speaker 1: the heinus actor shooting her, he then subjected her two
Speaker 1: and a half years of hell. Bot said after the sentence,
Speaker 1: and they're going to deport him back to Canada. All
Speaker 1: that show money he was getting in the US. When
Speaker 1: he come out, that's over with. Yeah, he won't be
Speaker 1: able to come back here no more. He won't be
Speaker 1: able to come back here no more.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be That's just like members Shine, That's gonna
Speaker 2: be just the same situation.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't know.
Speaker 2: Ain't no, ain't no, ain't no broad gonna piss me
Speaker 2: off that bad to where I gotta pop at her whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you gotta take you, sometimes you gotta take.
Speaker 1: To you know.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I can't. I come from the
Speaker 2: street life and all that shit changed.
Speaker 1: Person.
Speaker 2: I know situations, you know, uh, domestic violence and all
Speaker 2: that shit. Never advocated it.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what kind of female, what what
Speaker 2: would make you that mad to bust on a female
Speaker 2: like I don't know what to make you mad to
Speaker 2: buzz and female. But I wondered what made milli male
Speaker 2: mad enough to go with eminem Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: want to before you say that, let me say this
Speaker 2: while we speaking on you know, pioneer rappers or whatever.
Speaker 1: There's a pioneer.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've all been asked this question, and we've all
Speaker 2: been whatever. When is it time to put down the microphone?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: What do you feel hip hop has an age limit?
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think it has age limit. I think
Speaker 1: why are we so ridiculed.
Speaker 2: For rappers like Melly Meo and older rappers who are
Speaker 2: still trying to Why are we so ridiculed by the
Speaker 2: youngsters because people still want to hear music, and you
Speaker 2: know what, but they don't want to hear us. Why, well,
Speaker 2: that's them evidently. I know you make a lot of
Speaker 2: money or doing tourist, so it's somebody that want to
Speaker 2: hear you. But according to them, I don't. According to them,
Speaker 2: we don't. According to them, y'all old rappers, y'all broke,
Speaker 2: and that's why y'all still trying to rap. You know,
Speaker 2: That's what kills me, man, when you're talking to these
Speaker 2: young folks man, because they say you and broke, You
Speaker 2: need to sit down something. I could turn on my
Speaker 2: radio or TV and I could see Rolling Stone still performing.
Speaker 2: I could see Earth Winding Fire still performing. I could
Speaker 2: see all these concerts with Lisa Lisa and Coke Jam
Speaker 2: and all these Nobody tells them a why the fuck
Speaker 2: y'all still singing? Go sit down and let it be
Speaker 2: Dojah Cat and all the new people. Why is it
Speaker 2: always hip hop? Why? Well, you know what, hold on,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about about fucking he who can still get out?
Speaker 1: But I wonder you know it's a kid out here.
Speaker 1: My nigga said, well, you listen to that ship you
Speaker 1: gonna hold on. This is what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: You know me, And before you say something, I feel
Speaker 2: that's kind of out of place.
Speaker 1: You get me, Like you have to know when to
Speaker 1: fight your battles. You get me.
Speaker 2: You have to know when to pick your battles and
Speaker 2: when to fight your battles.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna try to even though
Speaker 2: you know I got a little swing power and you know,
Speaker 2: protect myself. I'm not finna get in the ring with
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson on an expedition or whatever. You feel me,
Speaker 2: that's just something I'm not gonna do. Someone already claim
Speaker 2: you win.
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have an exhibition Max, I'm like, hell, no,
Speaker 1: for what I wouldn't either, No and no. I get
Speaker 1: where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: I'm not finn to have an exhibition battle with eminem
Speaker 2: you feel me. I don't give a fuck about how
Speaker 2: much I disagree with whatever the situation is. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna go fuck that. I'm Finnah go on the studio.
Speaker 2: I'm finna do me a record. It's just it's ludicrous
Speaker 2: to me. You get me, and I respect Mellie Mail.
Speaker 2: I love the message and Grand Master Flash and all
Speaker 2: that shit. But like I said, I'm not gonna get
Speaker 2: in the motherfucking boxing match with Mike Tyson on a
Speaker 2: fucking expedition because I feel like fuck that you get
Speaker 2: me or even even one of the even one of
Speaker 2: the famous white boxers, you get me, I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: even get in that message boxer.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even get in the ring with Rocky.
Speaker 2: You get me on Sylvester stallone type of shit, I
Speaker 2: know I can't. That's just something you don't deal with.
Speaker 2: So guys know how to pick your battles and shit.
Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate for motherfuckers like you know in that
Speaker 2: situation when it's it's niggas like me who still respect
Speaker 2: the craft of hip hop. I donna do hip hop
Speaker 2: or make records to go make you know money, Like
Speaker 2: you said, I do it. I make money right here,
Speaker 2: I go on tour. Still I do do shit. I
Speaker 2: don't look at like, oh man, I gotta put this
Speaker 2: fucking record out because I gotta make some money. I
Speaker 2: make records because you still enjoy making it said in
Speaker 2: the heart end. It's in the heart, and I still
Speaker 2: have fans who appreciate me making the music I do.
Speaker 1: And this is why I say that I don't think
Speaker 1: it should be your age. Lem Me put on rep Now,
Speaker 1: if you a dude that's fifty years old, decide that
Speaker 1: you just gonna come now and just jump in the trade,
Speaker 1: I would tell that person, man, look, unless you are
Speaker 1: very very very good exactly, those situ aas down somewhere
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Get that, but like and then they picking shoes, who
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 1: That's all? Well, the thing is, evidently you got what
Speaker 1: you would call what I like to call the fifty
Speaker 1: year old b boy. Now we in the era right now,
Speaker 1: hip hop is fifty years old, right. I grew up
Speaker 1: listening to hip hop. I remember whenning what no hip
Speaker 1: hop on the planet exactly, I can remember clear it
Speaker 1: wasn't no hip hop. Instantly when I heard it, I said,
Speaker 1: I have to be a part of that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know in which aspect, you know, but my mom bought
Speaker 1: me turntables. I actually can DJ, actually DJ pretty good,
Speaker 1: but that's not my thing, you feel what I mean?
Speaker 1: I actually got really good at some writing aspect, writing
Speaker 1: hooks and everything like that, and I got credits out
Speaker 1: there now for that. But this is my thing. Right.
Speaker 1: I think that, just like anything else, being an mc
Speaker 1: all comes from here, right. I could be one hundred
Speaker 1: years old and had the coldest bar as ever. But
Speaker 1: I think with that being said, when you swinging a sword, right,
Speaker 1: if you got a sword and you going to battle,
Speaker 1: soldiers don't wait until the day of the battle to
Speaker 1: go sharp and they blade up. They keep that motherfucker
Speaker 1: sharp every day. You would see them at home, you know,
Speaker 1: rubbing the shit. They gonna make sure that motherfucker stays sharp.
Speaker 1: So if a motherfucker impede on, they turf, or they
Speaker 1: get called by the king to go to war, guess
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. That blade is nice and sharp. I
Speaker 1: think you need to keep your blade sharp. And with
Speaker 1: that being said, and I'm gonna give you this player first,
Speaker 1: I thoroughly have the utmost respect for Melly Mail. Melly
Speaker 1: Mail probably has the coldest rap verse of all time.
Speaker 1: But y'all is born with no state of mind, blind
Speaker 1: to the ways of mankind. God is smiling on you,
Speaker 1: but he's frowning too, because the only God knows what
Speaker 1: you go through. That was kind of some of the
Speaker 1: first gangster ship. Really, you know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: to go from that to this right here, we only
Speaker 1: go play a little bit of it because you know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to get to you look mad like
Speaker 1: a roach crawled out of your book bag. I say
Speaker 1: this man and a lot of people won't give Eminem
Speaker 1: the credit that he's supposed to get.
Speaker 2: Why get this off real quick, guy? Is he even
Speaker 2: hating on Eminem?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: that right there. Eminem happens to be white, but listening
Speaker 1: to that man rap, you can tell he is very, very,
Speaker 1: very like you said, he is serious about his craft.
Speaker 1: And at this point, Eminem probably sitting on a half
Speaker 1: a billion dollars if not born.
Speaker 2: Is it racially motivated? What is that angle behind? I
Speaker 2: think so it has to be racially motivated? Or is
Speaker 2: Meley feeling like because m is white, he shouldn't be
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be appreciated.
Speaker 1: As as what hip hop is black? Well, what Melli
Speaker 1: Mal's thing is is that Eminem is a guest in
Speaker 1: the house of hip hop. And I believe if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, because I don't want to be one of
Speaker 1: those people that put stuff out this fact. Y'all can
Speaker 1: do your own researching this, But I believe that Eminem
Speaker 1: has said on a couple of different occasions that he
Speaker 1: is a guest in hip hop. He understands that this
Speaker 1: is a black art form. But if if you listen
Speaker 1: to this, if you listen to this guy, man, you
Speaker 1: can tell that he is very, very serious about his music.
Speaker 1: A lot of thought writing the raps and understanding how
Speaker 1: Eminem rep you being a rapper, and you listen to
Speaker 1: his caveenances and his flow. He puts a lot of
Speaker 1: time and effort into that shit. Dog, and he's really
Speaker 1: meticulous about the way he says stuff.
Speaker 2: Everything about Ryan that's saying that that he's a guest
Speaker 2: in hip.
Speaker 1: Hop, Hold on, Brown, if you gonna do it, come
Speaker 1: talking to Mic so the people can hear you. Come
Speaker 1: talking to Mic real quick. Dog, Hey, this is this
Speaker 1: is our producer. Let me introduce him. It's his first
Speaker 1: time ever, it's his first time ever on camera.
Speaker 2: Now, this is what I want to say. He's saying like,
Speaker 2: m's a guest of hip hop, right because what black?
Speaker 2: Because hip hop is what it is. It's a black
Speaker 2: art form. It's a black art throw for sure. It's
Speaker 2: a black art form.
Speaker 1: What is basketball? Basketball? When it was made? What was it?
Speaker 1: When basketball was made? It was initially all white folks
Speaker 1: playing it? What was football initially all white folks? Are
Speaker 1: we guessed of those exactly? My point is that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I share your opinion us.
Speaker 2: While we guessed the football baseball. Because remember, we as
Speaker 2: black people can do that shit. We weren't allowed until
Speaker 2: we had to form our own crew. Right, So can
Speaker 2: Eminem say I formed my own house. And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you what he said, I formed my own house.
Speaker 2: I understand that it's a black culture, but saying I'm
Speaker 2: a guest, I built my own house.
Speaker 1: He built his own house, and he's very you know
Speaker 1: anybody whenever right here, people come up with these criticism
Speaker 1: about Eminem. I tell him, I say, listen, you not
Speaker 1: listening to him. You're talking about your feelings. You're being
Speaker 1: very subjective and in your feelings right now, because the
Speaker 1: man got bars.
Speaker 2: Have I did I have? I liked every Eminem song. No,
Speaker 2: there were songs that you know, the stand ship and
Speaker 2: ship like that.
Speaker 1: H I love, I get it, but it came. But
Speaker 1: that wasn't for you, right, that wasn't for you that's fair.
Speaker 1: And it's another thing.
Speaker 2: His first ship, I'm slim shady. I used to bang
Speaker 2: that ship all through the neighborhood. It was a it
Speaker 2: was a it was a nice He's a bad motherfucker
Speaker 2: dog here talking to mic Man.
Speaker 1: Think about the interview. Was at TV interview and Glad
Speaker 1: asked him in the interview, because you beat Eminem in
Speaker 1: the battle, he said, it'll be the easiest thing I
Speaker 1: ever did. Said that's where so he said that that
Speaker 1: melle Mel said that Eminem doesn't have the technical skills
Speaker 1: to beat him in the battle. Eminem and I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna get in some trouble for this because this is
Speaker 1: just my opinion, right, and everybody is subject to their
Speaker 1: own opinion, right, And I try to be as objective
Speaker 1: as I can about stuff. I don't put no feelings
Speaker 1: at mostion in it. But Eminem is easily I don't
Speaker 1: think rap could ever have a definitive number one, you know,
Speaker 1: number one person, because that's just somebody's opinion, right. But
Speaker 1: Eminem is without a doubt, unequivocally one of the top
Speaker 1: ten rappers in the world. Like I said, easy, and
Speaker 1: I would even venture to say probably top five he's
Speaker 1: a bad motherfucker. Dog, He's a bad He's a bad
Speaker 1: motherfucker Again.
Speaker 2: Have I listened to some eminem shit you, god damn right?
Speaker 2: Have I banged some Mellie Nail you, god damn right?
Speaker 2: Two different comparisons, you get me, two different times. You
Speaker 2: get me exactly, Mellie mailing him was the seventies era.
Speaker 2: You get me, the early eighties era of breaking in
Speaker 2: their hip hop. You're talking about somebody who you know,
Speaker 2: battle skilled wise is just you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: you don't touch it like your mama say, niggative fire
Speaker 2: is on on the stove, you don't put your fucking
Speaker 2: hand on the fire, right exactly. And some niggas you
Speaker 2: just can't fuck with. Oh well he has the polacy
Speaker 2: okay then, Melli Yeah, I mean because it because it
Speaker 2: sounded like an emotional thing, because you know, niggas want
Speaker 2: to be recognized as the originators. You get me, Mellie
Speaker 2: Mail is wanting to come from one of those eras,
Speaker 2: so to to to question him about his like, you know,
Speaker 2: because he like nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm Melli Mail, I come.
Speaker 2: From you know, and everybody respect and so for a
Speaker 2: motherfucker to ask him, could you beat eminem in a battle?
Speaker 2: What he's supposed to say? Hell no, he got confident
Speaker 2: in himself. But everybody know what the real results.
Speaker 1: It is a way to answer that to say, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, I love him and them. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: battle them in them, you know, like, that's not what
Speaker 1: I do, That's not what i'm you know.
Speaker 2: That's what I wouldn't even know why somebody would even
Speaker 2: push that button to you get me. Oh well, there
Speaker 2: you have it, there you have it. Say no more,
Speaker 2: you know what doing. I never get mad at last.
Speaker 2: People get mad at lading them right. But my thing
Speaker 2: is this them motherfuckers go up to answer all the question.
Speaker 2: Flag is doing this job if he can get a
Speaker 2: motherfucker to say some crazy I've done the show, I felt,
Speaker 2: you know, some questions where they try to wiggle and whatever.
Speaker 2: You just gotta be intelligent before you speak. That's one
Speaker 2: thing to ask everything. Motherfucker asked me a question. You'll
Speaker 2: see me sit there for fucking five minutes and go mm.
Speaker 1: You know, And I'm not gonna read males whole. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure everybody that you're going on, we're gonna put
Speaker 1: it in the description y'all go and see million mails. Pology.
Speaker 1: It's a pology, but this is what I wanted to say. Man, right,
Speaker 1: we really need to as a people start stop being
Speaker 1: so damn emotional about stuff and be emotional now when
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you talk start talking about systemic racism,
Speaker 1: police brutality, and stuff of that nature. We are supposed
Speaker 1: to be emotional, We're supposed to feel some kind of
Speaker 1: way about that. But this man has evidently made it
Speaker 1: his life's work. I remember I saw Eminem at the
Speaker 1: rap Olympics before he was even Eminem w wels and
Speaker 1: I love Medusa, dog loved Medusa to death. But he
Speaker 1: tore Medusa's head off that day and fifteen other people
Speaker 1: and he didn't He didn't even win the rap Olympics.
Speaker 1: My boy Juice from Chicago beat him, fair square. Juice
Speaker 1: the bad motherfucker too, he beat Eminem. Eminem was depending
Speaker 1: on that win that battle for rent money to pay
Speaker 1: his rent at the crib. Like he won, and it
Speaker 1: was one of them things to wear because I was
Speaker 1: there for it. It was kind of like right there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And Juice won. Eminem has
Speaker 1: to me, he's had a harder time of making it
Speaker 1: to me, you know, to get jumping the game his
Speaker 1: entry point because people probably always looked at him as
Speaker 1: the white boy.
Speaker 2: I mean, but we've always done that when a white
Speaker 2: boy has tried to jump into hip hop. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the only you know people we gave credits
Speaker 2: shout out to Homie Cypress Hill, you know, that was
Speaker 2: probably you know, and they they they were you know, Spanish,
Speaker 2: they weren't even white. Look what happened with the results
Speaker 2: of it, and they crossed over as well, you know
Speaker 2: the results of of when Caucasians entered a hip hop game.
Speaker 2: You know, we had the Vanilla Ice era, we had
Speaker 2: the what the Marky Marking, the funky bunch bunch you know.
Speaker 1: Which'ell look at Mark Wahlberg more as an entertainer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the type of music they did've had
Speaker 2: a few of them tried to come in and stake
Speaker 2: to position. And if you could see right now, a
Speaker 2: lot of them or or you know, running the positions
Speaker 2: that that hip hop has been well, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and it's a lot of white rappers, man. And
Speaker 1: that's the big misconception too. They think, oh, he just
Speaker 1: made it because he's white. I knew a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of white rappers. We ain't nowhere close to getting no
Speaker 1: record deal definitely. You know what I'm saying. They got skills,
Speaker 1: they do they shit, but they're not in the upper
Speaker 1: exit line of hip hop, you know. And this is
Speaker 1: what I really feel, man, we need to really start
Speaker 1: judging this shit on dog on motherfucker's bars and that
Speaker 1: motherfucker rap. That's all I care about. When I listen
Speaker 1: to a new song, I don't care if motherfucker's white, black, green,
Speaker 1: and purple, does he have bars? Just the beat banging,
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I don't care, because I don't
Speaker 1: feel it's my place to ever tell somebody you're not
Speaker 1: welcome into the house of hip hop because just like
Speaker 1: you neede the analogy to basketball, football and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Hell football, I think it's what maybe ninety six percent
Speaker 1: black now, yeah, ninety six percent NBA, same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and white's and been at that sport. What they said,
Speaker 1: this is ours, y'all can't come in. Y'all got again
Speaker 1: for a long time, and they did for a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how that changed them. My son's
Speaker 1: I'm a mutter you will see Trojans. They went down.
Speaker 2: They had remember that game they had to go down
Speaker 2: And I watched the whole documentary story where they went
Speaker 2: to go play al Alabama.
Speaker 1: They wanted to go play Alabama. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things they tell you about when you go on your
Speaker 1: recruiting trip. They got this one wall at the university
Speaker 1: right to show all the black players that was there
Speaker 1: and see was like, come on in the whole time.
Speaker 1: They coach was like, we playing on the sport. Everybody's
Speaker 1: welcome to play exactly. And they went down to Alabama
Speaker 1: and beat the dogs shit out they ass. You know
Speaker 1: what Bear Bryan said the next year, we have to
Speaker 1: start letting some of these nigga roles in the university
Speaker 1: or we're gonna get our ass whopped every year.
Speaker 2: So you know, I just you know, I know this
Speaker 2: is this craft was you know, made up by us
Speaker 2: as a people.
Speaker 1: A lot of shit.
Speaker 2: It was made up as us five people. But you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes they squeeze in and they take control over, and
Speaker 2: you know you can't do nothing about it, and what
Speaker 2: can you do it for?
Speaker 1: All fucker good?
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell you we had some we had
Speaker 2: some white basketball players playing like niggas. We got you though,
Speaker 2: Larry Bird was a goat. Come on, motherfucker. Yeah, that's how.
Speaker 2: That's how stuff happened, though I don't know, but you
Speaker 2: know what, man, I think some of them little stories
Speaker 2: like him throwing a demo.
Speaker 1: Top was at that thing too. I was there because
Speaker 1: I was there. I was there actually to wash my
Speaker 1: deuce and the homie Juice because shut off Juice.
Speaker 2: My boy was a judge there. He was a judge,
Speaker 2: I think. So you could tell at that time that
Speaker 2: that little motherfucker was wrong.
Speaker 1: No, he was.
Speaker 2: He Like I said, I never got into the battleshit,
Speaker 2: but he was a motherfucker who could battle motherfuckers. That's
Speaker 2: how he got in your shit, like you said, just
Speaker 2: by chance fucking tape and fell into the right hands.
Speaker 1: I asked my homeboy, Juice all the time, right, if
Speaker 1: you had to do it all over again, would you
Speaker 1: had rather have lost that ball and whim? He said,
Speaker 1: what the fuck you think, nigga? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because Juice didn't get nowhere close to the commercial acclaim
Speaker 1: that he thought he was. But he was a bad one.
Speaker 1: The fucking shut out shoes you know what, going back
Speaker 1: to Melle Mail, I want to say this to mail Man,
Speaker 1: you are no disrespect. You are on the mount efforts
Speaker 1: of rap dog as one of the goats, as one
Speaker 1: of the goats. But my guy, you don't see Damn
Speaker 1: Marino coming out here starting shit with what's my man for?
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes And like I said, who all knows what
Speaker 2: it is? I mean, you know, sometimes a lot of
Speaker 2: these shits be publicity stunts, you feel me?
Speaker 1: I hope not, because, to be honest with you, the
Speaker 1: song Mail put out for what he does. If he'd
Speaker 1: just put the song out, you know, commemorating fifty years
Speaker 1: of hip hop, it would have been received way differently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably it would have been received because if you listen
Speaker 1: to it, it's dated, but it's not bad. It sounded
Speaker 1: like something that would have came out during that time.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I ain't gonna give horrible but
Speaker 1: I don't hear worst shit on there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't heard word. We got some real horrible s wor ship.
Speaker 1: You know that that's I won't say that's Male's best work,
Speaker 1: but that's MC male. Mail.
Speaker 2: Don't we're gonna give him. We're gonna give him an
Speaker 2: a for effort. Yeah you know what, he didn't have
Speaker 2: no damn business for effort. He's lucky because Eminem is
Speaker 2: really one of them type of dudes to take any
Speaker 2: challenge on. I think m's uh one of those dudes
Speaker 2: that's like be like yeah, right, okay, whatever until motherfuckers
Speaker 2: get the egg at him on like come on, man,
Speaker 2: you got to serve this motherfucker and then he just
Speaker 2: be like fuck it. But for the most part I
Speaker 2: would look at it like, man, it's Melly Mail, Okay, cool, whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever you say, you feel me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And as y'all see, we not in
Speaker 1: a normal spot tonight.
Speaker 2: That we're getting ship cracking, so you know you just
Speaker 2: back up in action next.
Speaker 1: Next week, week, way bigger, way better and uh this
Speaker 1: big things coming. We got big announcements coming up and
Speaker 1: everything else where are we at time? While it be yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna go. Let y'all go, But I
Speaker 1: want to leave y'all with this before we go. When
Speaker 1: you see somebody online seeing derogatory things about people and
Speaker 1: city everything is about people before you jumping them comments
Speaker 1: talking about yeah you one hundred percent right, because first
Speaker 1: of all, none of y'all know what the fuck are
Speaker 1: y'all talking about half the time, y'all, and somebody's in boxing,
Speaker 1: and somebody's leaving the comment on somebody's page instead of
Speaker 1: and your whole life is in shambles. But take the
Speaker 1: time out the research stuff for yourself. Let's all start
Speaker 1: being a little bit more objective. Yeah, and stop going
Speaker 1: for the bullshit. We in dangerous times now. We gotta
Speaker 1: stop supporting the bullshit. It's a lot of dope content
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I'm saying. Stop cheating yourself
Speaker 1: because looking at that bullshit is like listen so much
Speaker 1: masturbating your ear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to each his own. Like I said, when you
Speaker 2: got a choice, you got a choice to do whatever.
Speaker 2: But a lot of this shit be just ridiculous. A
Speaker 2: lot of this shit is just just straight up just
Speaker 2: just hate the next motherfucker. And I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm getting fed up with the with with us as
Speaker 2: black men always gotten to hate motherfuckers. Man, If you
Speaker 2: got an issue, man, just just keep it to yourself
Speaker 2: and move along, because we're gonna keep doing what we're doing.
Speaker 2: You feel me, It's nothing's gonna stop so we would
Speaker 2: rather you know what I'm saying, We would rather focus
Speaker 2: on shit that's positive, making money and uplifting motherfuckers instead
Speaker 2: of trying to slap niggas in the mouth man. That's
Speaker 2: what it is. We're trying to be on a different page.
Speaker 2: So let's grow up.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And on that note, we out of here.