Speaker 1: Welcome the Guys We.
Speaker 2: Fuck, the anti slutshaming podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Christina Hutty.
Speaker 3: I'm forent Sister.
Speaker 1: With friends. Bring us to floody your horny and your name?
Speaker 3: Hey with what?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about.
Speaker 1: Fucking Gooday fuck us? How you do and way you've been?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've been traveling all around? Are you okay?
Speaker 1: I'm great. Welcome to another episode Guys We Fucked.
Speaker 2: It's anti slutshaming podcast. I'm Karan Fisher.
Speaker 1: I'm Christina Hutchinson. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Big News.
Speaker 1: Guys, big News.
Speaker 2: We are doing a show that will together probably turn
Speaker 2: into more shows. But in New York City, I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, do a regular show in.
Speaker 1: New York City?
Speaker 3: Do it?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: So we're doing it, all right, We're doing it. We're
Speaker 2: just being care in the whole time we're doing it.
Speaker 2: We're doing Guys We Fucked Live at the Beautiful Midnight Theater.
Speaker 2: We performed here last year for the New York Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1: We interview Paula Shore there. It was very fun. It's
Speaker 1: a great venue. Michael was there.
Speaker 2: We did make him sit on a stool behind us.
Speaker 2: The whole time and then didn't address him, which I
Speaker 2: thought was a lolarious way an interview.
Speaker 1: I still had fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still got pus. Probably Paully was a I mean,
Speaker 2: what a what a great guest. Yes, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: we're doing Guys We Fuck Live at the Midnight Theater.
Speaker 2: The first show is Friday, September eighth, at nine thirty
Speaker 2: pm Friday Night, Baby.
Speaker 1: Dressed to Impress. If you feel like it.
Speaker 2: Ticket link is in the link tree link in all
Speaker 2: our bios and in the Guys.
Speaker 3: We Fucked bio.
Speaker 1: Uh And I say this is.
Speaker 2: The first show, but keep in mind there will be
Speaker 2: no more shows. If this show doesn't sell out, it
Speaker 2: doesn't sell out, and it needs to sell out quick.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it will sell out.
Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, instead of stressing us out
Speaker 4: and then buying the tickets last minute, just buy them now.
Speaker 1: Just buy them now.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 2: That guy's not going to ask you out. You're not
Speaker 2: going your vacation, you're not going to go to Italy.
Speaker 2: Just set your skill in town Friday September eighth, because your.
Speaker 1: Life is okay. Yeah, yeah, and it'll.
Speaker 3: Go and it'll go.
Speaker 2: I always that's what I'm always doing I'm always like, oh,
Speaker 2: let me hold that date. Maybe something will come up.
Speaker 2: Nothing has ever come up, nothing will come up.
Speaker 1: No, just get do it. Now. You have to make
Speaker 1: you have to.
Speaker 4: You have to make a concerted effort to include fun
Speaker 4: into your schedule.
Speaker 1: And this is that. So have at it, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doors are right, thirty shows really starting at nine thirty.
Speaker 2: It's a theater. It will be on time. Yes, gorgeous
Speaker 2: theater in a gorgeous area. You could go take a
Speaker 2: walk afterwards, and in huts and yards.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 4: There's a Peloton store if you want to buy a
Speaker 4: Peloton before or after the show, probably before it's to
Speaker 4: be open.
Speaker 1: A problem before you get a whole food.
Speaker 2: It's salmon, great cocktails, lovey or dirves at this midnight
Speaker 2: sexy theater. Yeah, I want to dress very sexy, which
Speaker 2: for me is just like tight stuff. I really want
Speaker 2: to just I really love them in night theater. It's
Speaker 2: there's just something special about it. That's why we chose
Speaker 2: this venue. There was other venues. And then we said
Speaker 2: he said that to them, quick question, Michael, which camera
Speaker 2: is ours?
Speaker 1: Which which one?
Speaker 5: Because they're both like one and right in front of you, Christina,
Speaker 5: that is the wide shot that's the last show. And
Speaker 5: then the one that right now is moving is the
Speaker 5: one that I'm floating with.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it, got it, got it cool? So I
Speaker 1: was looking at that one sick. Guys.
Speaker 4: If you want to email us it's sorry about last
Speaker 4: night's show at gmail dot com, make that subject line.
Speaker 3: A little preview of what you're going to talk.
Speaker 1: About today's subject line.
Speaker 4: My best friend's boyfriend is having a baby with another woman.
Speaker 4: I currently live with my boyfriend, my best girlfriend and
Speaker 4: her boyfriend. Oh no, My boyfriend and I have been
Speaker 4: dating for about two years now, and my best friend
Speaker 4: and her boyfriend have been together for eight months.
Speaker 1: Jesus.
Speaker 4: Around my birthday is when my best friend started dating
Speaker 4: her new boyfriend.
Speaker 1: We will refer to him as Phil. That's not that's
Speaker 1: indicative how you feel about him.
Speaker 4: Phil was engaged to another woman when they started pursuing
Speaker 4: each other. Uh oh, I heard from my best friend
Speaker 4: that he was pursuing her and vice versa when talking
Speaker 4: to Phil. Anyways, they ended up hooking up together for
Speaker 4: the first time while the fiance was out of town,
Speaker 4: and Phil ended up leaving his fiance for my best friend.
Speaker 4: I wasn't thrilled that they started dating since it started
Speaker 4: off in mistrust and lies, and honestly, I honestly felt
Speaker 4: bad for the fiance. I have been cheated on by
Speaker 4: all of my ex boyfriends, so this to me, hits
Speaker 4: deep and kind of gives me PTSD.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you recognize that up top, because sometimes.
Speaker 4: We get really mad at somebody else's situation because we're
Speaker 4: actually fucking pissed about the wrongs from our past. A
Speaker 4: month into Phil and my best friend's relationship, he gets
Speaker 4: a call from his ex fiance that she is pregnant
Speaker 4: and is planning on keeping the baby.
Speaker 1: Your buddy, your choice, girl.
Speaker 4: Phil slept with my best friend, and then when the
Speaker 4: fiance returned home, slept with her and got her pregnant
Speaker 4: that night.
Speaker 1: Jesus, the Lord works in mysterious ways. Is it?
Speaker 4: It's so funny, like some people try so hard to
Speaker 4: get pregnant and they can't and then fucking this My
Speaker 4: best friend calls her, calls this her instant karma for
Speaker 4: messing with someone that was she that was engaged. So
Speaker 4: throughout their whole relationship, this baby has been on its
Speaker 4: way well, yeah, yeah, what a weird thing. Fast forward
Speaker 4: to today and the baby is here and my best
Speaker 4: friend is going nuts.
Speaker 1: She has a lot of resentment towards the baby.
Speaker 4: I set her baby to the point where she doesn't
Speaker 4: does not want to even paint her nails red or
Speaker 4: buy anything red because.
Speaker 2: The baby's name is Rose. Rose is not really like
Speaker 2: the color isn't rose? A rose can be white.
Speaker 4: Also, not painting your nails a color that reminds me
Speaker 4: of baby's name, you're still going to think about it.
Speaker 4: So there's roses outside. I can't protect yourself from that,
Speaker 4: and there's just roses growing out of the ground. I
Speaker 4: know everyone is valid to feel the emotions they are feeling,
Speaker 4: but to me, her pettiness is starting to get the
Speaker 4: best of her.
Speaker 1: She is constantly talking to.
Speaker 2: Phil on the phone while he is gone to see
Speaker 2: this baby be born. Since the ex fiance now lives
Speaker 2: in another state closer to her family. This is really
Speaker 2: bothering me because I don't get one on one time
Speaker 2: with her anymore because of our work schedule and having
Speaker 2: both of our boyfriends around. Even though she asked my
Speaker 2: boyfriend to leave the house to have girls night and
Speaker 2: while we were waiting for our other girlfriends to come.
Speaker 1: She was on the phone with Phil the whole time.
Speaker 4: It is getting to the point where every time she
Speaker 4: talks to me about this baby and how she feels
Speaker 4: so much resentment and says some awful things about the
Speaker 4: ex fiance and the baby, it's like she cheers in
Speaker 4: victory if anything goes wrong with the pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Oh it's terrible. That's fucking awful.
Speaker 4: And honestly, I don't agree with anything she says regarding this.
Speaker 4: It makes it hard to be there for her when
Speaker 4: she is hurting because, in my eyes, you did this
Speaker 4: to yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, when people are jealous or insecure, they really get nasty.
Speaker 1: To me, she.
Speaker 3: Seems like she's just a bad person.
Speaker 1: She does seem like a bad person. I mean, I
Speaker 1: hate to.
Speaker 3: Come to that.
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem lusion and I know people aren't bad
Speaker 2: or good, but yes, right, well, she's she's in her
Speaker 2: bad girl face.
Speaker 3: It's gonna last a while. To me.
Speaker 2: I also need to know. I need to know how
Speaker 2: old this this woman is. I think they sound like
Speaker 2: they're in their mid twenties.
Speaker 3: We don't know. They sound very twenties.
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm like, if they are not in
Speaker 2: their twenties, then that's sad.
Speaker 3: Then I would be really alarmed.
Speaker 1: Yes, but if you guys are in your thirties, oh boy.
Speaker 4: To me, she is choosing to deal with this, and
Speaker 4: I know she has a lot of guilt inside for
Speaker 4: home wrecking a relationship. I just feel this is hindering
Speaker 4: our friendship because I have gotten to the point in
Speaker 4: my life where I don't want drama like this.
Speaker 1: I love her, She's honestly.
Speaker 3: What's like you do based on the semn.
Speaker 4: She's honestly one of the closest girlfriends I've ever had.
Speaker 4: I just don't know what to do in this situation
Speaker 4: because I want to be a good friend to her,
Speaker 4: but I just don't want to hear her say such
Speaker 4: horrible things about the situation.
Speaker 2: She almost plays the victim. Oh that would fucking piss
Speaker 2: me off.
Speaker 4: That's like a trigger for me, even though I do that,
Speaker 4: and so I really get mad at myself. She also
Speaker 4: plays the victim, which blows my mind because I just
Speaker 4: think about the ex fiance and what she is feeling.
Speaker 1: There have been a few other things, like when it
Speaker 1: was just.
Speaker 2: Her and I living together, she asked if my boyfriend
Speaker 2: was going to be over all the time, to where
Speaker 2: I said no, because I know it's not only my space,
Speaker 2: but it's hers too. When we were living in this
Speaker 2: in that apartment for the first six months, she was
Speaker 2: barely home because she was always at her ex boyfriend's house.
Speaker 1: And once they broke up, she started dating Phil.
Speaker 4: Immediately, and he was all over over all the time
Speaker 4: and didn't even offer to pay rent or any utilities,
Speaker 4: even though he was pretty much living with us. He
Speaker 4: didn't start paying for rent until four months after we
Speaker 4: got this new place with me and my boyfriend, because
Speaker 4: he wasn't originally part of the plan of her living
Speaker 4: with her, of living with her, my boyfriend and myself,
Speaker 4: even though he was there every day.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 2: You and your boyfriend should just get your own apartment,
Speaker 2: build a bomb, and just set it off in the
Speaker 2: middle of the apartment. I mean, that's what that's suggestion.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: I also forgot to mention that Phil told my best
Speaker 4: friend that he was planning on proposing to her next summer.
Speaker 1: I'm romantic.
Speaker 4: I told her that, Yeah, you know, Phil and fiancees,
Speaker 4: they don't always work out.
Speaker 3: That's also like a.
Speaker 2: Very long like like like I'm planning on proposing to
Speaker 2: her next next summer, that's in a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah what huh?
Speaker 4: I told her that that is insanity and you don't
Speaker 4: know where your guy's life will be in a year.
Speaker 1: But she, but she sends him what her ring sizes
Speaker 1: and whatnot to each their own.
Speaker 4: I just know she gets super attached really quickly, and
Speaker 4: I just don't want to see what happened to the
Speaker 4: ex fiance happened to her. I mean valid, but we
Speaker 4: on our own journeys, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it's hard to let somebody be on their own journey.
Speaker 2: But I am at the point where I am pretty
Speaker 2: fed up with all of this and with her. I
Speaker 2: am having nightmares of them abusing the baby. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is terrible.
Speaker 4: Had I have tried to distance myself and just don't
Speaker 4: really say anything to her when she's on her rants,
Speaker 4: because I have already told her how I feel.
Speaker 1: Once they started dating.
Speaker 4: If you guys could give me any insight on how
Speaker 4: to be a good friend, but also have boundaries set
Speaker 4: up with her where this doesn't consume me more than
Speaker 4: it already does. That would be wonderful. Thank you for
Speaker 4: having this podcast. It has brought me so much joy
Speaker 4: and I've learned a lot. Oh girl, that's a tough situation.
Speaker 4: I would I would have the exact same feelings if
Speaker 4: I were you. And you know what, I think it's
Speaker 4: best if you guys didn't live in the same apartment.
Speaker 4: That's probably what's gonna do it, because sometimes too, like
Speaker 4: best friends, you can be best friends and truly get
Speaker 4: along so well, and then when you live together it's
Speaker 4: just different. And then at this situation, on top of it,
Speaker 4: this your best friend is very clearly she's insecure, and
Speaker 4: she probably feels she might be caring shame about her
Speaker 4: choice to fuck a married guy or an engaged guy
Speaker 4: and then have that relationship crumble. And I think the
Speaker 4: if you internalize shame will really make you act nasty
Speaker 4: and say awful things about like the fiance and her pregnancy,
Speaker 4: which that's so terrible, but I that's the only thing
Speaker 4: it could be, like, it's just shame. Shame makes you
Speaker 4: act like a fucking cunt. And so I think she
Speaker 4: really needs to work through that. She needs to be
Speaker 4: in therapy. I mean, we all do, but Jesus.
Speaker 2: This is one of those emails that we get quite
Speaker 2: often where it's like, and you addressed it yourself at
Speaker 2: the end of it, where it's like you're spending a
Speaker 2: lot of time thinking about a problem that's not not
Speaker 2: your horrors, and like, and you're right when you said, like,
Speaker 2: I think the problem here that you need to work
Speaker 2: on more is why is this consuming you? And I
Speaker 2: know you kind of acknowledge that at the end of
Speaker 2: the email, because that's what I was thinking the whole
Speaker 2: time that you're writing it.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, there's it's it's weird.
Speaker 2: Also, it's like you I don't want to say you
Speaker 2: seem jealous, but there's some weird feeling that I can't
Speaker 2: tap into, like why you care so much? Like I
Speaker 2: understand that, Like I understand that it is annoying to
Speaker 2: listen to someone complain about something, especially where you kind
Speaker 2: of think that they're the they're in the wrong, like that,
Speaker 2: you know, that's a circumstance when our our friend comes
Speaker 2: to us and we know that our friend is the
Speaker 2: one in the wrong, how do we still be a
Speaker 2: friend to them?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: But I mean that's you know, none of us are
Speaker 2: perfect and Also there's a you know, this is a
Speaker 2: common theme too, like there's a lot of attacks on her.
Speaker 3: When she did something not great.
Speaker 1: But the main.
Speaker 2: Problem here is her boyfriend. He's the one who was engaged.
Speaker 2: He's the one who who should be making her feel
Speaker 2: more comfortable with the situation of that he shares a child,
Speaker 2: and like, yes, it's crazy that she's saying bad things
Speaker 2: about the baby because it's not the baby's fault.
Speaker 3: And what would be even.
Speaker 2: Worse case scenario is if her boyfriend chose to be
Speaker 2: an absent father. So I think it's a really good
Speaker 2: sign and a redeeming quality of his that even though yes,
Speaker 2: he did cheat and then he went home didn't say
Speaker 2: and then fucked her and got her pregnant, Like at
Speaker 2: least he is being a present father, because I could
Speaker 2: never date someone who wasn't who had a child and
Speaker 2: like didn't acknowledge them and wasn't a present father. Like
Speaker 2: to me, that's like an absolute absolute deal breaker.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 2: So every yeah, everyone cheated, it's like and it's also like,
Speaker 2: why are you You're seemingly more mad than the ex fiance,
Speaker 2: Like the ex fiance is allowing the boyfriend to visit.
Speaker 2: She went ahead and had the kid, Like, not the
Speaker 2: decision I would have made, but the decision she made.
Speaker 3: And that's her.
Speaker 1: It's her life and her body and her baby.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think, like you just have to say,
Speaker 2: you know, to your friend listen, like I want to
Speaker 2: be here for you. But it bothers me that you're
Speaker 2: constantly talking negatively about this baby. Who's I mean, we
Speaker 2: just want you know, isn't our hope for the like
Speaker 2: the world that everyone grows up to be the best
Speaker 2: version of themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's because that's good for everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so I don't really understand, uh, but it's
Speaker 2: gonna feel so much better to her, to to your
Speaker 2: best friend to like think positively about this woman and
Speaker 2: this baby, Like it's just gonna it's gonna make everything better.
Speaker 1: She doesn't even have to think. I don't even it's
Speaker 1: not negative.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't even think she has to think positively about
Speaker 2: the ex.
Speaker 3: I think that's asking a lot. She just has to.
Speaker 2: And also it's like, why are you fucking mad at
Speaker 2: the exit? You're the one he chose.
Speaker 1: You, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And then I get like
Speaker 1: you can be.
Speaker 2: That's why I said the internalized shame thing, because that's
Speaker 2: such an immature, nonsensical person to be mad at in
Speaker 2: the situation.
Speaker 4: She literally did nothing. If anybody can wear the victim card,
Speaker 4: it's her right. It doesn't seem like she is I.
Speaker 2: Think put a cloak of neutrality over the ex fiance.
Speaker 1: She's just there. She is what she is.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's probably like, yes, it's annoying to you that
Speaker 2: your boy or to that woman that her boyfriend has
Speaker 2: to leave to visit the baby. But it's also like,
Speaker 2: I think it would be far more annoying for your
Speaker 2: best friend if the ex fiance and the baby were
Speaker 2: like in town, very close.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, you can't. No relationship is
Speaker 2: really going to be a perfect situation. Like there's always
Speaker 2: a lot of variables that you have to put up with.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that a lot this week, and like,
Speaker 2: there's I always try to minimize the amount of extra
Speaker 2: people that I'm going to have to deal with in
Speaker 2: a relationship, which is more That's like why I don't,
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't want to date someone with a kid.
Speaker 2: It's not really the kid, it's the other people and
Speaker 2: family members that come along with the kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kid is not really the kid. Get out
Speaker 1: of that kid.
Speaker 3: Kids are kids, you know.
Speaker 2: I can get along with mostly any kid unless they're
Speaker 2: an absolutely fucking terror and then I'll terrorize them back.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so this is yeah, this is just like
Speaker 2: this is this has now consumed you too much. You
Speaker 2: also have to set boundaries for yourself, your anger and
Speaker 2: how much time you're thinking about it. Like literally, we're
Speaker 2: a rubber band around your uh wrist and when you start,
Speaker 2: you're because you're wasting time from your own life where
Speaker 2: you're thinking about your best friend's situation. Yeah. Also, Christina's
Speaker 2: I don't know why the hell you decided it was
Speaker 2: a good idea for you and your boyfriend and her
Speaker 2: and her boyfriend to live together.
Speaker 1: Like what and this sounds like awful? That's a rare
Speaker 1: I've you broke. Yeah, it sounds awful.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean maybe I.
Speaker 2: Was like, maybe it is a it could be a
Speaker 2: financial situation. Yeah, then I then it totally get it right.
Speaker 2: But otherwise then you got to suck it up. But
Speaker 2: like Jesus, like did you think that would be more
Speaker 2: fun than it was? Because again, it feels like a
Speaker 2: very twenty something decision.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think that you're you will automatically create
Speaker 4: distance between your best friend's life and your inner world
Speaker 4: when you don't live in the same space, because.
Speaker 1: I as somebody.
Speaker 4: I if I'm around somebody, even if we're not, like
Speaker 4: if we're a share, Like I've shared some spaces lately,
Speaker 4: like with people that they were like in bad moods,
Speaker 4: and I it just fucked me up, even though I
Speaker 4: didn't have to talk to them. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 4: their energy was just there and I'm just too fucking
Speaker 4: sensitive to it. So I think that that would really
Speaker 4: be a quick fix if you didn't live together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then also just be like yo, like I'm
Speaker 2: I'll hear, I'll listen to you. But I do feel
Speaker 2: like some of your feelings are perhaps misguided, placed, misguided,
Speaker 2: you know, misdirected. Yeah, but I mean, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 2: your best friend doesn't kind of sound like not a
Speaker 2: great person.
Speaker 1: No, sorry, but investigate that. Interrogate that. Yeah, and come
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Speaker 4: I have a Patreon where four times a month I
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Speaker 4: And I interject with like my if I have like
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Speaker 1: To what you're saying, I'll share it.
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Speaker 2: that gave like two hundred dollars towards it, and like
Speaker 2: the reason he was even charged was because of some
Speaker 2: like it was a really really like they went really
Speaker 2: out of their way to make this connection. And so
Speaker 2: a lot of people are kind of questioning, like why
Speaker 2: anytime we talk about sex trafficking is like the government
Speaker 2: trying to like shut it.
Speaker 3: Down, quieted or whatever.
Speaker 2: And it's like, Okay, I mean I don't we dive
Speaker 2: into stuff like that. And also obviously like the regular news,
Speaker 2: so you can check that out. And then also as
Speaker 2: far as tour dates, the next GASH in Los Angelus,
Speaker 2: I haven't released tickets yet, but that will be on Thursday,
Speaker 2: September twenty eighth. We're gonna do a later show, a
Speaker 2: nine thirty show, and it will link then directly into
Speaker 2: my birthday, so it'll be uh, it'll be uh, or
Speaker 2: maybe it is even later.
Speaker 1: It might even be like at ten o'clock. Whatever.
Speaker 2: Basically, we're gonna we're gonna link it in so that
Speaker 2: I'll be around at midnight and it'll be my birthday
Speaker 2: and it'll it'll the dot will chime midnight and we'll
Speaker 2: all be together to celebrate my birthday, which will be
Speaker 2: super fun.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be in La on September twentieth.
Speaker 1: Oh, not Skanfest skank fests in the twenty ninth. Oh
Speaker 1: I thought we were performing on the twentieth as well.
Speaker 2: No, the twentieth is the Thursday. That's the pre party
Speaker 2: that I'm definitely missing. Yeah, and then I'll be able
Speaker 2: to No, I'll just make sense for me to be
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and go right to Las Vegas, all right,
Speaker 2: and then and then Washington, d C. Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You guys are my first twenty twenty four dates. It's
Speaker 2: going to be at the Comedy Loft February twenty ninth
Speaker 2: through March A second. I know some of you already
Speaker 2: bought tickets. The ticket link is up in my lin tree.
Speaker 2: It's also at crinfisher dot com. Thanks to those people
Speaker 2: who have already bought tickets, looking forward to that, having
Speaker 2: performed in DC in a couple of years and excited
Speaker 2: to do so.
Speaker 1: All right, what's that Welcome back from San Diego? How
Speaker 1: you doing good?
Speaker 3: Good, good good?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: California time. I've been saying hi to people after the shows.
Speaker 4: That's been really nice. I started in Toronto. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm doing that again.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they gave me like anxiety, but
Speaker 1: I did have one one guy at one of the shows.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the city. You might know
Speaker 1: who you are sor he might not.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: He went to pose.
Speaker 4: For a photo and he boy, that that hand around
Speaker 4: my waist.
Speaker 1: It felt wrong. It felt I don't know, but not but.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: But so it wasn't the placement. It was just more
Speaker 4: like the pressure and the the like you're getting into
Speaker 4: my hip bone.
Speaker 1: You know, don't do balls.
Speaker 2: It's a little ballsy and uh and uh, you know, normally.
Speaker 4: In those situations it's so funny, like hosting this podcast,
Speaker 4: costing it once a week for fucking ten years, and
Speaker 4: you're like, if this happens, do this, if this happens
Speaker 4: to this, and instead of saying anything, I just froze
Speaker 4: and then went on to the next person. But I
Speaker 4: was like, but then I was thinking, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: do you say in those moments.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, stop touching my hip please?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the way he was touching it.
Speaker 4: Like so when I was posing for pictures of people,
Speaker 4: we would like put our arms around each other and stuff,
Speaker 4: and like some I had hip arms around my hips
Speaker 4: from men and women and it didn't it didn't feel
Speaker 4: like but this sent like a jolt up my spine
Speaker 4: of like, good God, it's just I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I don't know what to say in
Speaker 1: those situations.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, maybe if I think of something
Speaker 4: in advance, and then I could just say instead of freezing,
Speaker 4: But nothing came up.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, in general, just men or women shouldn't
Speaker 2: be putting a hand around your waist when you when
Speaker 2: you post for a picture, it's hand around the shoulders.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows that.
Speaker 4: But when when if somebody does put a hand around
Speaker 4: your waist, what do you say, Hey, can you get
Speaker 4: your hand off from my waist?
Speaker 2: I don't feel it, but I don't feel uncomfortable. You
Speaker 2: don't feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta try that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like I mean men men do do that sometimes,
Speaker 2: and you're like you never know, like you can never,
Speaker 2: of course be one hundred percent sure in that situation
Speaker 2: like what someone's intention is, but like it's just inappropriate,
Speaker 2: especially because men are most likely going to be taller
Speaker 2: than you, Like, there's absolutely no rise in that.
Speaker 3: It's that far down.
Speaker 2: It would even make more sense even in a spatial argument,
Speaker 2: that it would be around the shoulders. Around the shoulders
Speaker 2: is the only appropriate way to take a picture man, woman,
Speaker 2: non binary.
Speaker 5: You know, I had a couple of times when I
Speaker 5: was still like touring the older women in some of
Speaker 5: the shows that I performed, and when I would take
Speaker 5: a picture of them or whatever older how much like
Speaker 5: like forties, I guess, like for like so jerryah Rick, No,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying like your like millface, I was twenty
Speaker 5: six or twenty.
Speaker 1: Seven, Oh okay almost twice, Yeah, they would put their
Speaker 1: hands in my back pocket. Ooh, we would take a picture.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm trying to touch her.
Speaker 1: That that costs that.
Speaker 5: As it happened a couple of times, it was very
Speaker 5: weird that.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're like what that ass do, Mikey when they
Speaker 2: do inappropriate things all the time. The only time I
Speaker 2: put like sometimes like if a guy obviously is like
Speaker 2: I have to put my arms around people's waist sometimes
Speaker 2: if mental because there's so much taller to me. But
Speaker 2: I also do it like pretty light, or I'll do
Speaker 2: like if I'll do like a flat hand against the back,
Speaker 2: so like you understand like that it's a friendly you know,
Speaker 2: pat Honestly, I try to like also like hover sometimes,
Speaker 2: so I'm not even really touching people that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't like touch fucking touching people. I
Speaker 1: don't know, ye wrong, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: There were two guys in two different cities that were
Speaker 4: so fucking tall. I'm saying, I'm like six six tall,
Speaker 4: and like when I went to hut, like I went
Speaker 4: to give them a quick hug, I felt like they're
Speaker 4: my tits and their dick were at the same like level,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is I don't like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they didn't mean, they weren't do it.
Speaker 1: They didn't get a weird vibe from them, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: sorry to rub my tits against your dick. Some people
Speaker 1: are just really tall yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: You're sure than me, like tugging a guy that's six six.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't like dating guys that are that tall.
Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't even if you came on
Speaker 2: the sea plane of them.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not fun. This is not fun.
Speaker 2: This feels like some kind of fucking weird freak show
Speaker 2: things weird.
Speaker 4: I'm reading this book that's really I got it at
Speaker 4: the airport in Toronto. I forget when I got it,
Speaker 4: but it's called Stolen Focus by Johann Hari. Why you
Speaker 4: can't pay attention on how to Think Deeply? Again, fucking
Speaker 4: beautifully written book.
Speaker 1: It's really good. This guy basically studied this well. He
Speaker 1: knew he had to keep your attention for who's reading that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and he does. He keeps it. It's a
Speaker 2: very it consumes you when you start reading.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
Speaker 4: But it's about a topic that I'm very passionate about.
Speaker 4: And I feel like we're in this mass experiment of
Speaker 4: what is being so glued to these phones going to
Speaker 4: do to our brains and hearts and minds, and as
Speaker 4: it relates to this podcast, are fucking romantic relationships?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: My boyfriend and I spent a lot of time together,
Speaker 4: and it doesn't seem there's not a lot of moments
Speaker 4: of the phones every once in a while.
Speaker 1: But then I remind myself, I'm like, we're together all
Speaker 1: the time. You have to be.
Speaker 2: We have to post on social media for our career
Speaker 2: and stuff, so it doesn't seem to be a problem
Speaker 2: like in my romantic relationship. But I when I'm out
Speaker 2: in the world, I really I'm also somebody who I
Speaker 2: don't have any notifications on and it's it's insane to
Speaker 2: me that someone would have a pop up notification on
Speaker 2: their phone every time someone does anything on their Instagram
Speaker 2: like a like or a message of comment.
Speaker 1: Crazy. That's fucking insane.
Speaker 4: You are asking to be so pulled in multiple different
Speaker 4: directions in your mind that you're gonna just explode.
Speaker 2: I just always tho some of those are people who
Speaker 2: don't know how to probably adjust the settings on their phones.
Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean, I would like to think so, but
Speaker 4: it's so the notifications is so easy.
Speaker 1: It is so easy, but not to everybody. Everyone it's
Speaker 1: easy to me.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was just thinking a lot of pondering
Speaker 4: a lot about what the phones do to our ability
Speaker 4: to interact with people. And it's very it's already you
Speaker 4: could already see the side effects.
Speaker 1: On like dating app conversations.
Speaker 4: Like people don't treat dating apps like there in any
Speaker 4: way high stakes, and I think that when you're in
Speaker 4: front of somebody, I mean there's to face, you would
Speaker 4: just never talk to them like that. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: how do we regain that ability to socialize?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I mean dating well, dating apps are also as
Speaker 2: we learned in the social dilemma. I mean, they're set
Speaker 2: up to be game like and to not be almost
Speaker 2: like to be addictive, but not like actually taken seriously
Speaker 2: the way they're set up. I mean, just like the
Speaker 2: the way if you're starting with the idea that you're
Speaker 2: going to be swiping right or left on someone's fucking face,
Speaker 2: like it's not gonna it's not gonna go well yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it it does. It feels like you're playing
Speaker 2: a video game. And that's why I like, the anytime
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed being on dating apps, it's because it was
Speaker 2: like a fun video game that I was playing. I
Speaker 2: absolutely had no intention on going and of any of
Speaker 2: those dates, and I was like, this is so stupid.
Speaker 2: Why am I even on here wasting everybody's time?
Speaker 1: Right, right?
Speaker 2: And I know, like, I don't think I've been in
Speaker 2: a really now, I've not been, And I don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of friends that are like this, So when
Speaker 2: I'm around a person like this, it really sticks out,
Speaker 2: and I get fucking angry that it just people glued
Speaker 2: to their phone.
Speaker 1: Like I get if it's your job and stuff, but
Speaker 1: you know, when we're.
Speaker 4: Out to eat and you're you have I mean everybody
Speaker 4: does this, including myself. You'll be at a restaurant and
Speaker 4: everybody has their phones right on the table next to them,
Speaker 4: next to their knife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna have it on the phone, but
Speaker 2: I always flip it so it's that the screen is down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just have it up there, honestly, because then I'm like,
Speaker 2: where the fuck did I put my phone?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: And I do like to keep an eye on the
Speaker 2: time more so that, yeah, for sure, more so. And
Speaker 2: I fucking hate watch. I hate things on my wrist.
Speaker 2: So I I almost might get a watch so that
Speaker 2: I don't look at my phone for the time. I
Speaker 2: don't know, because then if I got like a text
Speaker 2: or something, or I get distracted and I just for like,
Speaker 2: add I just fucking I'll go off on an hour
Speaker 2: long look into something that doesn't even matter when all
Speaker 2: I was doing was trying to see what fucking.
Speaker 1: Time it is. Yeah it is, Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of people.
Speaker 4: I'd be curious if you're listening to this or watching this,
Speaker 4: if you are in your romantic relationships, because as it
Speaker 4: relates to the show, like, is there a lot of
Speaker 4: cell phone use?
Speaker 1: Do you say anything? What do you say? Like? Has
Speaker 1: there been arguments? I think that you can't.
Speaker 4: Blame like there are companies that invest billions of dollars
Speaker 4: to make us to cause these ways of life in
Speaker 4: our in our you know, in our day to day,
Speaker 4: So blaming yourself is not the right answer.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what it is. It's an addiction
Speaker 1: like any other.
Speaker 2: Though, Like I had, like James, that was like one
Speaker 2: of our biggest like fights that always, like was a
Speaker 2: consistent fight in our relationship, was that he wasn't there
Speaker 2: the phone thing, and he never he there was never
Speaker 2: a time where he was like he stopped no, I
Speaker 2: mean he knew I was right, but I was like.
Speaker 1: James was always and he was actually like.
Speaker 2: He was actually like researching and like reading like stuff,
Speaker 2: not just like watching mindless YouTube videos.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm like and even his like I think his like
Speaker 2: mother told me, like, oh, even when he was like
Speaker 2: a little kid, he would like kind of always like
Speaker 2: be on the computer looking and stuff up. So I
Speaker 2: get that that's like part of, you know, your personality.
Speaker 2: And then I asked myself, like, well, if his nose
Speaker 2: was always stuck in a book, would I be yelling
Speaker 2: at like him?
Speaker 3: You know, no, probably not.
Speaker 1: Dinner though if his nose was in a book.
Speaker 2: Of course, he wouldn't do it at dinner because I
Speaker 2: was paying, so you know, you are paying.
Speaker 1: So I would have been like put your phone.
Speaker 5: Stuck with the bill a handful of times.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like at a you know, at at at
Speaker 2: a certain point, I would just be like, yeah, like
Speaker 2: we're not like we would be watching a movie.
Speaker 1: He would be on it.
Speaker 2: I mean, he would read what he was driving, and
Speaker 2: I go, you can do whatever you want while you're
Speaker 2: driving yourself. I was like, when you're driving me, you
Speaker 2: cannot be on your phone at the same time.
Speaker 1: You know that's not good.
Speaker 2: So but you know it's a but it's a you know,
Speaker 2: it's also I think like if he was making more money,
Speaker 2: maybe I would have been less mad, Like all your weight,
Speaker 2: are you doing something on the phone?
Speaker 3: Making money on the phone?
Speaker 2: Are you are you getting thousands of followers on the phone?
Speaker 3: You know something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is It just feels like a problem that's only going
Speaker 1: to get worse.
Speaker 4: And it's like we have to you individuals have to
Speaker 4: It's up to you to figure out what that balance is.
Speaker 4: But what's what's the incentive the incentive to figuring out
Speaker 4: a proper balance between how often you're staring at your
Speaker 4: phone no matter what you're looking at, and how often
Speaker 4: you're present in your life. Like the reward to that
Speaker 4: is connection. But I feel like we live in this place, this,
Speaker 4: this the vibe of society right now is not very
Speaker 4: focused on connections. So it's like that's not even a
Speaker 4: reward people are trying to get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have connections. Of the reward you'll see me
Speaker 2: on Instagram later tonight, you know.
Speaker 1: Right right right? Yeah, meaning like when you're with your
Speaker 1: friends though, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I don't, I don't, I'm not
Speaker 2: on my phone, nor are my friends on their phones.
Speaker 2: That's never that's like never a problem. I don't even
Speaker 2: like when people fucking put like pick up the phone
Speaker 2: for their husband when they're with me.
Speaker 1: I got, yeah, I agree, though, I go stop unless
Speaker 1: like it's you're waiting on an answer for something specific
Speaker 1: but then text. I don't know, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's again any better. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any I don't think there's any way. So
Speaker 2: I think basically what will happen is just like society
Speaker 2: will just be more used to having people always on
Speaker 2: their phones, and I mean it'll just like get go
Speaker 2: like Jetson style, where like we'll just be in like
Speaker 2: our own cubes kind of like talking to people like
Speaker 2: I mean when you look at the Jetsons, like they
Speaker 2: were talking to people on monitors, like that's zoom, that's
Speaker 2: a zoom call.
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, So all the.
Speaker 2: Stuff on Jetson's is like basically happening, but just like
Speaker 2: in a bit of a different way than we, uh
Speaker 2: than they predicted that it would happen. And we're gonna
Speaker 2: be like in our own capsules and stuff. I mean Honestly,
Speaker 2: it sounds really great for you. Yeah, it sounds really
Speaker 2: good for me because it's so interesting being on a
Speaker 2: co host of a relationship show because we do talk
Speaker 2: so much about connection, and like it's a constant problem
Speaker 2: when I'm dating people that like, the uh structure that
Speaker 2: I would ideally want in a relationship is and I've
Speaker 2: said this since I was like a little girl, that
Speaker 2: I want to live in one house and then my
Speaker 2: partner lives in another, like either another unit in the
Speaker 2: building or like down the street from me, because I
Speaker 2: know that's what would work best for me. And like
Speaker 2: absolutely no takers for that of anyone that I've you know,
Speaker 2: even you know, considered uh wanting to live with or
Speaker 2: you know, be with for an extended part of of time,
Speaker 2: because they're all like, well, that's not what a relationship like.
Speaker 3: That's not a real relationship.
Speaker 2: And I go, that's not a real relationship that you've
Speaker 2: seen in an example, certainly a real relationship. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I was, like I was like a relationship literally anything
Speaker 2: that you wanted to be. But I just know, like
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that a lot this week, and like,
Speaker 2: I know, I just don't see any world in which
Speaker 2: I can be cohabitating with someone unless we have a
Speaker 2: very large house and based on the people I date, uh,
Speaker 2: that won't be happening because I you know, I already
Speaker 2: bought my place right right right, So you know it's
Speaker 2: so funny all these guys are like, we have to
Speaker 2: live together, Okay, then get write a check right where where?
Speaker 3: Because I'm not.
Speaker 1: We're not living together in my loft? Did one bedroom?
Speaker 3: Right? And that's what I chose.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then also just like even like I was like
Speaker 2: snuggling with Alfred this morning, and I was like, this,
Speaker 2: how much would it suck if there was some other
Speaker 2: guy in the bed right now with me and Alfred?
Speaker 1: How much would that fucking kill my vibe? Right now?
Speaker 2: I would say, this morning, my morning cuddles with my little.
Speaker 1: Baby, right yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like I just feel so content being alone.
Speaker 2: Just like everything I just put I didn't have to
Speaker 2: think about it. I ate what I wanted to eat
Speaker 2: for dinner last night. I was like, oh, I've never
Speaker 2: seen Mermaids starring share Rhinona Writer and Christina Reichi. I'll
Speaker 2: let me put that on because I've never watched that movie.
Speaker 2: And that feels like a movie that I had need
Speaker 2: to watch. Yeah, do you imagine trying to tell your
Speaker 2: boyfriend you want to watch Mermaids?
Speaker 1: You'd never go for Oh, I would go for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, well your gee, she's great. Well this is why Harris,
Speaker 2: but this is why we're very close friends. Also, did
Speaker 2: you know in Mermaids she's like forty four years old?
Speaker 2: How fucking fantastic?
Speaker 1: Does she lookless?
Speaker 2: And then you're getting mad about how they passed though
Speaker 2: she was like thirty one.
Speaker 1: They paired her up.
Speaker 2: With Bob Hoskins in that fucking movie. And I'm just like, listen,
Speaker 2: great actor, very and there is a he does have
Speaker 2: a certain genesse quap. But I'm like, this is not
Speaker 2: a share though, this is rude.
Speaker 1: Give her a hot daddy.
Speaker 3: The fuck that?
Speaker 2: Like that other, the the other like church guy. That
Speaker 2: why known a Rider ends up getting with is he's.
Speaker 3: A hot piece. God.
Speaker 1: I want to rewatch that movie now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it was just like and I was like considering somebody, Yeah,
Speaker 4: having to consider another person, this is a lot.
Speaker 1: This is why people get married young.
Speaker 2: Though, like it makes a lot more sense like with
Speaker 2: everyone's like I think that's like where some of the
Speaker 2: pressure to get married early is it's because people want, yes,
Speaker 2: because people know once you get into your groove and
Speaker 2: you find it, and you find an amazing groove that
Speaker 2: works for you, someone somewhat you know. Oh everyone complains about,
Speaker 2: you know, the standards that women to have in their thirties.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, because we have created such a wonderful
Speaker 2: life for ourselves.
Speaker 1: You really got to be great to fit into this.
Speaker 1: Who the yeah, who the absolute?
Speaker 2: Like, who the fuck am I going to allow to
Speaker 2: kill this vibe?
Speaker 1: No one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no one, yeah, no one.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of energy to consider somebody else, even
Speaker 2: if you like love them and are obsessed with them.
Speaker 1: It is just it's a lot of energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to spend any one second doing
Speaker 2: something I don't want to do, which I think is
Speaker 2: that's like a kind of like something Kim Catrell said.
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want to be somewhere for like
Speaker 2: even an hour where I'm not having fun.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I get that.
Speaker 2: I think you would read that quote maybe and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like a woman obsessed with herself. But I
Speaker 2: think she really has the right idea. I think she
Speaker 2: really has the right idea. Yeah, fun is this.
Speaker 1: Is supposed to be fun and not most people are
Speaker 1: not having it.
Speaker 2: Also, people lack empathy. I mean that's kind of the
Speaker 2: phone thing is kind of connects to what I was
Speaker 2: gonna my little thing for this week, which was so
Speaker 2: you know, Taylor Swift was doing the Errors tour this
Speaker 2: week in Los Angeles, So that was one of the
Speaker 2: set of shows that people.
Speaker 3: Were like very much looking forward to.
Speaker 2: And if you know, during the twenty two the song
Speaker 2: twenty two, Taylor always gives her twenty two hat to
Speaker 2: a member of the audience and it's very excited, exciting,
Speaker 2: and if you get the twenty two hat, it's like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, I got the twenty two hat.
Speaker 1: Usually, like a younger girl she gives it too.
Speaker 2: And so in one of the LA shows, she gave
Speaker 2: it to Vanessa and.
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's daughter Bianca.
Speaker 2: And I expected to read the comments and be like,
Speaker 2: oh so sweet, what a heartfelt moment, how touching this woman?
Speaker 1: Law? I mean, so this woman, this child, she's six,
Speaker 1: her name is Leianka.
Speaker 3: She's six.
Speaker 2: She lost her older sister and her dad one fell
Speaker 2: swoop and she gets a hat in exchange, right, okay.
Speaker 1: And the.
Speaker 2: Amount of grown people commenting on this post, well, we've
Speaker 2: all lost someone, And I just like, don't think that
Speaker 2: like tailorship concentrated on just like a celebrity, because there
Speaker 2: was like so many people in that audience, and like
Speaker 2: so many people were like I was thinking the same
Speaker 2: thing I was thinking. And I can't believe how many
Speaker 2: people echo this seems sentiment. And I was like, you
Speaker 2: guys really fucking lack And because number one, I've also
Speaker 2: lost a lot of people, but I'm not six, and
Speaker 2: I would highly argue that most people at six haven't
Speaker 2: lost their father and their older sister in a tragic
Speaker 2: helicoph you psychos. I was like, there are different levels
Speaker 2: and stages of losing people losing someone when you know
Speaker 2: at that point, she was like three years old, and
Speaker 2: just like the trauma that must circulate around that family,
Speaker 2: the absolute loss that must be in that family, Like
Speaker 2: you guys are I like, I almost I had to
Speaker 2: stop myself from getting in a fight with these people
Speaker 2: because I was like you, there is such a lack
Speaker 2: of empathy and such a why not me attitude online
Speaker 2: and it is absolutely disgusting. And I gotta say sometimes
Speaker 2: we we have that with the listeners of this show too,
Speaker 2: and I think we've had discussions of it enough, and.
Speaker 3: I know it is hard.
Speaker 2: It is it's hard to look at a lot of
Speaker 2: other people who have so much and being a comedian,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, this is a this is a problem
Speaker 2: I have with a lot of our colleagues who it's
Speaker 2: a constant like why not me? You know, why why
Speaker 2: didn't I get this thing? Why didn't I get this
Speaker 2: TV show? Why didn't I get this festival? Because it
Speaker 2: wasn't meant for you?
Speaker 3: Because you're not.
Speaker 1: Good enough, because cause the.
Speaker 2: Other person you didn't work as hard he or the
Speaker 2: other person's uncle works for the festival.
Speaker 1: Like there's so many factors.
Speaker 2: Right, And I also do I also do think like
Speaker 2: we've all been told like we are also deserving of
Speaker 2: everything that now we now expect that we.
Speaker 1: Are deserving of everything.
Speaker 2: It's like no, quite, frankly, Sometimes you're just not good
Speaker 2: enough and you didn't work har hard enough and you.
Speaker 3: Don't deserve it.
Speaker 2: Like the reason Kobe Bryan's daughter gets special treatment is
Speaker 2: because Kobe Bryan impacted a lot more lives than most
Speaker 2: of us will ever impact, and so they just get
Speaker 2: more and that's just the way life is.
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry if that fucking upsets you. Grow up
Speaker 3: five time champions. Yeah, it's like, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And also and also, like Taylor Swift is a celebrity,
Speaker 2: so her other friends are celebrities, And if you actually
Speaker 2: do it ten seconds of research, you would know that her,
Speaker 2: that Kobe Bryant's family and Taylor Swift have a long
Speaker 2: history of things that they've done together.
Speaker 3: Like, just for ten seconds, pretend that you're not a.
Speaker 2: Fucking moron, I would love it.
Speaker 3: I was. I was, I was.
Speaker 2: I was aghast at these at these comments about this
Speaker 2: six year old You're jealous of a six year old
Speaker 2: girl who got.
Speaker 3: A foodra go to therapy?
Speaker 1: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Think?
Speaker 2: Look in the mirror and say, I was jealous of
Speaker 2: a six year old girl who's dead and sister are dead.
Speaker 2: So that's that's how unlike invaluable you feel, and how
Speaker 2: out of control you feel in your life.
Speaker 3: That's pathetic.
Speaker 2: You're pathetic, and it's okay, you can fix it, but
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: You're pathetic and you need to fix that asap.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even go like I didn't even I
Speaker 2: could have had I had to walk away from the post.
Speaker 2: But like, and you know, these are these are husbands
Speaker 2: and wives, these are voters, These are people who are
Speaker 2: probably making decisions about women's bodies, These are people who
Speaker 2: are raising children.
Speaker 1: These are people who are pro.
Speaker 2: Creating truly the worst worst scenario any horror movie I've
Speaker 2: ever watched in my entire life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is disgusting.
Speaker 2: Just like, Yeah, some some people in life get more
Speaker 2: than other people.
Speaker 1: It sucks. Maybe in your next lifetime you get more.
Speaker 2: Like it's what, Yeah, I can't be Joseph a six
Speaker 2: year old period, but being Joseph a six year old
Speaker 2: whose father and sister died tragically, and the absolute cloud
Speaker 2: and weight that that will hold over their family for
Speaker 2: the rest of their lives and they will never and
Speaker 2: that will always be something hanging over them.
Speaker 3: There was nothing I would trade for that, you know,
Speaker 3: entire world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that that thing you said about some tailor Swift,
Speaker 4: because we know a lot of Taylor Swift fans, like
Speaker 4: diehard Taylor Swift fans were fantastic. Yeah, so it's definitely
Speaker 4: not all of Taylor Swift fans, but she.
Speaker 1: Fucking what you said was so fucking funny weeks ago
Speaker 1: about like, you know, uh, she's sheer captain and I'm
Speaker 1: on the bleachers.
Speaker 4: So a lot of her fans are the bitches on
Speaker 4: the bleachers, and it's.
Speaker 1: The why does he like her and not me? Kind
Speaker 1: of thing?
Speaker 4: And that that is exactly that type of sad vibe
Speaker 4: in that that you are a stronger woman than I
Speaker 4: for not absolutely going to town on those people saying
Speaker 4: that that's insane.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna teach them anything in that moment, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like they're gonna have to learn that through like
Speaker 2: the lessons of life that will be presented to them
Speaker 2: over the years. But like I do think though, like
Speaker 2: if you're like again and it's this why why not me?
Speaker 2: Is something that always makes my skin crawl. It's it's
Speaker 2: so prevalent among comedians. I always walk away when people
Speaker 2: are having a why not me? Conversation? And I know
Speaker 2: some people are like, I like, but what about call
Speaker 2: her Daddy? That wasn't a why not me? That was
Speaker 2: like why did you steal our ideas?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Literally verbatim.
Speaker 3: So I just want to clear that if that's on
Speaker 3: anyone's mind.
Speaker 2: But like anytime, and certainly I do look at things
Speaker 2: and go, man, I would have really liked that opportunity.
Speaker 2: And then I just say to myself, well, get the
Speaker 2: fuck off your phone, stop looking at all these other
Speaker 2: things that people achieved, and go and work harder, because
Speaker 2: you obviously didn't work harder. What the material you're putting
Speaker 2: out isn't resonating with people enough. You got to make
Speaker 2: a change. You got to do something different.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: What the conversation I have with myself, I don't go
Speaker 2: just I don't just sit around and go what the
Speaker 2: world is against me?
Speaker 3: No, it's not. The world doesn't care about.
Speaker 1: You that much. You're a blip. You're a blip in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can think of none of us really matter
Speaker 2: on a singular basis, and okay, so just get just
Speaker 2: know that and uh yeah, I just so if you
Speaker 2: start thinking like why me, I would really advise you
Speaker 2: to to train yourself out of that thinking, no matter
Speaker 2: what it is, because it comes up so much and
Speaker 2: it's so gross and nobody likes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so set.
Speaker 2: Mentality is fucking It is very prevalent, and I do
Speaker 2: wonder can you just imagine being an adult and wanting
Speaker 2: the tailor twenty two Fedora stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another layer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder too if those people, like you know
Speaker 4: we were talking earlier about like you wouldn't like men
Speaker 4: and women wouldn't say the things that they say to
Speaker 4: each other on dating apps if you were face to
Speaker 4: face and.
Speaker 2: Course not, I was gonna have no problem going to
Speaker 2: skaning Fesston, Like, no one's calling me a come bucket
Speaker 2: to my face. And honestly, if you did, I commend
Speaker 2: you for your bravery because you're gonna have a long weekend.
Speaker 4: Do you think those people who call those people that
Speaker 4: commented about that like would say that out loud?
Speaker 1: Probably not out loud.
Speaker 2: I mean you'd have to have real smiral cohonez to
Speaker 2: say that like to a sex year old.
Speaker 1: But like I just yeah.
Speaker 2: And then it's also so interesting to see this like this,
Speaker 2: like internet wide communal jealousy over celebrities. It's like it's
Speaker 2: like it's like I think that's why part of the
Speaker 2: reason now now it's being exposed why celebrity is are
Speaker 2: celebrities like a lot of it is like hateful watching.
Speaker 4: Yes, and when when somebody does something like the Lizo
Speaker 4: thing when like when somebody does something that is wrong
Speaker 4: right is morally like not okay everyone, Really it is
Speaker 4: fucked up to watch everybody enjoy tearing other people apart.
Speaker 4: It's like the so you've been publicly shamed kind of
Speaker 4: concepts that John absolutely and.
Speaker 2: It's like even if you just look at the little thing,
Speaker 2: I think, like everybody has done something really cunty or
Speaker 2: shitty towards somebody else, And I watch these people enjoy
Speaker 2: tearing Lizzo down and it doesn't take away from the
Speaker 2: fact that like that her dancer is and that documentary
Speaker 2: film director who bowed out of the project, like yeah,
Speaker 2: like they didn't like being around her and they got out, sure, great,
Speaker 2: but like the the enjoyment of tearing her down is
Speaker 2: just I'm like, that's.
Speaker 1: Not that's fucked up, Like we can't we can't just go.
Speaker 1: But you did the like to stop a cycle.
Speaker 4: It's I think the tricky is part to stopping a cycle,
Speaker 4: and it's not just familial like when you see.
Speaker 1: Something like that happening instead of going, I can't believe Lizzo,
Speaker 1: of all people who has dealt with body weight and
Speaker 1: being a black woman, all this stuff, How dare she?
Speaker 1: Fuck you you?
Speaker 4: Every human being could absolutely understand how you can be
Speaker 4: at your limit and be a fucking cunt. Or maybe
Speaker 4: she has narcissism from being that famous, because fame is
Speaker 4: a mental illness like that that amount of fame has
Speaker 4: got to be tricky.
Speaker 2: Or maybe she's in a bad mood because everyone spends
Speaker 2: all their time talking about her weight and she just
Speaker 2: tends to be mean to someone because sometimes it feels.
Speaker 4: Good, right, But like every human being under stands that concept,
Speaker 4: and we're all pretending that we don't when we're taking
Speaker 4: her down, and that's just such bullshit. And so to
Speaker 4: stop the cycle, you got to not I understand how
Speaker 4: that it could be tricky, but it's very doable. You
Speaker 4: just got to not take the fucking bait and don't
Speaker 4: add to the grossness of the conversation. Well now, and
Speaker 4: when we talk about you know, I think we're living
Speaker 4: through you know, Andy Warhol's prediction of everyone getting their
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. But yes, both in the positive and the negative, right,
Speaker 4: So like positively yes, like so many people kind of
Speaker 4: became like really huge stars overnight on TikTok or Instagram
Speaker 4: or whatever. People like that necessarily weren't even pursuing a
Speaker 4: career in entertainment. But I also think, you know, like
Speaker 4: things like these, like you know, Karen video accounts and stuff,
Speaker 4: people are also getting their fifteen minutes for.
Speaker 3: A negative of thing.
Speaker 2: And I think anytime you've been once you've been through
Speaker 2: and I don't wish this on anyone, I really don't know,
Speaker 2: but anytime once you've been through an experience like that
Speaker 2: where you on your worst day and your worst behavior
Speaker 2: is exposed and spread around the internet, I think you
Speaker 2: would really never treat someone like that again, and if
Speaker 2: you did, you got to get you have to continually
Speaker 2: learn that lesson you know, or like be resulted with
Speaker 2: that again. And I know that you know a lot
Speaker 2: of people's retort to that is basically like, well, then
Speaker 2: if you just were being a good person twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven, it wouldn't even be possible to get this
Speaker 2: moment on tape, and like, yeah, no one is a
Speaker 2: good person.
Speaker 1: Of course, there are.
Speaker 2: Extreme examples of racist, racism, misogyny, violence, animal abuse that yes,
Speaker 2: no one would ever be able to get those moments
Speaker 2: for a lot of us on tape because they don't exist.
Speaker 2: But for some of these it's like all right, relax,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let me just give me your give me
Speaker 2: your phone for a second, let me start some word,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up. Yeah, it's so pathetic. A skeletons
Speaker 4: are closet. We've all behaved in manners that were not
Speaker 4: proud of. And like I said, I think a lot
Speaker 4: of people carry shame about something on their back, and
Speaker 4: so that makes you act like a nasty bitch and
Speaker 4: in moments.
Speaker 1: Where you're you're you're not proud of.
Speaker 4: And these are the moments that we're filming and then
Speaker 4: putting in in front of people going.
Speaker 1: I can't believe she did that. Yes, you fucking can
Speaker 1: believe she did that. Stop it. You're excited to point
Speaker 1: the finger at somebody else, right, let's let's not. Let's
Speaker 1: stop with that.
Speaker 2: Well, Bethany Frankel actually did a really interesting, uh kind
Speaker 2: of like Instagram to camera real about the Lizo situation,
Speaker 2: and I thought she described people being excited to pounce
Speaker 2: on Lizzo as a feeding friends you And I thought
Speaker 2: that was a really perfect way to phrase that. Yes,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure she's experienced many things like that, being
Speaker 2: a huge reality TV TV star and even though after
Speaker 2: reading the accusations against the Lizo, of course it's hard
Speaker 2: to side with her. And but but I didn't want
Speaker 2: to pile on in any way to that, Like there
Speaker 2: I like unposted so many things like that. I was
Speaker 2: like trying to make jokes and I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't even actually want to contribute to this because of
Speaker 2: the because the way people are acting, like just discussA well,
Speaker 2: if you think about it too, it's like even like
Speaker 2: with it when the me too.
Speaker 4: Movement resurface, like the how to have a really valuable
Speaker 4: conversation that actually moves the needle, which is not most
Speaker 4: people's goal when something like this happens.
Speaker 1: No, it's getting clicks if yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 4: But if you if you for the Lizo situation as
Speaker 4: the example, like if you, if you fucking shame her
Speaker 4: and to how fucking dare you bub blah blah, do
Speaker 4: you think that's actually gonna make her want to face
Speaker 4: the moments where she wasn't acting proud of herself, Like
Speaker 4: do you think like, no, it's not it's not inviting
Speaker 4: dialogue to like we all do this shit, we all behave,
Speaker 4: we can all have the potential to behave disrespectfully and
Speaker 4: rude towards other people. Uh, and so pouncing on her
Speaker 4: is not gonna make her want to go, hey, you
Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna take a look at those moments.
Speaker 4: And those were not my proudest moments. I got my
Speaker 4: egoga cut up with the fame. All I do is
Speaker 4: get fucking body shamed by the internet. That's very stressful.
Speaker 4: Then you have a dialogue, but like, jumping on her
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Is only going to push her. That's how you get
Speaker 1: right wingers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get we get horny as a society, Like
Speaker 2: when when we think about like someone else having to
Speaker 2: like pay penance, especially to us, to us, the fan
Speaker 2: of the celebrity, Like, we get like fucking collectively horny.
Speaker 2: And it's yeah, absolutely, it's I just find it so repulsive.
Speaker 4: I mean I catch myself get in moments like that.
Speaker 4: When we did the Mark Harley thing, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, fuck this guy, fuck this piece of shit,
Speaker 1: fucking Like I got really mad. But it's like, I
Speaker 1: mean that's also someone who's like I mean like.
Speaker 3: Violenting like crime, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Against the like against a woman, because I mean I think, like,
Speaker 2: as you know, there is the part of the little
Speaker 2: allegations with like the sexual assault, and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: that's not great. Likes sing uh somebody to participate in
Speaker 2: a sex show, or like forking them to eat like,
Speaker 2: you know, bananas out of genitalia. Yeah, that's disgusting. And
Speaker 2: then uh, what else was it with Lizzo? I don't know,
Speaker 2: just the whole the whole thing, you're just like and
Speaker 2: also any any apology you get, like, it's not a
Speaker 2: real apology.
Speaker 3: It's just someone who wants not their career.
Speaker 4: Always that's what it always is because there's not real
Speaker 4: dialogue about this when it happens, Like people aren't saying like.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what what what.
Speaker 4: Maybe you weren't maybe that wasn't your best day. You know,
Speaker 4: that's those type of words are not being used.
Speaker 2: We also don't really know these people, so it's not
Speaker 2: really hard job. It's like Lizzo has friends and family
Speaker 2: and you know, And I think it's more of a
Speaker 2: situation of how did she get and how did she
Speaker 2: get into a space as so many celebrities do, where
Speaker 2: no one was telling her like no or like yeah,
Speaker 2: where no one was telling her no. Basically, we see
Speaker 2: that happen to almost every celebrity mental illness because everybody
Speaker 2: they cheer you on for stuff that's a lot of
Speaker 2: times mediocre, and and then people put out bad albums
Speaker 2: and it's easy.
Speaker 1: To get like so applauded for.
Speaker 4: Something and you go, oh, that's good, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: keep doing it, and then you make art that you
Speaker 4: don't even like and you're like, how did we get here?
Speaker 1: You know? So so everyone's complicit.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fans are complicit, the yes men and
Speaker 2: women and people's lives, you guys are part of the problem.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's not it's it's very hard to buy,
Speaker 2: buy yourself in a bubble, become a monster, totally. It
Speaker 2: justs we're all. We all contribute to it in some
Speaker 2: way or another. And then also quick correction from last week,
Speaker 2: just for anyone who was listening the conversation that we
Speaker 2: do about like where I was talking about like my
Speaker 2: father having a traumatic brain injury. I just say traumatic
Speaker 2: brain injury a lot because it was technically a hypoxic
Speaker 2: brain injury, which which means it's like the result is
Speaker 2: pretty much is pretty similar, but hypoxic means that the
Speaker 2: injury came from lack of oxygen, whereas traumatic is where
Speaker 2: it was like actual physical impact. So just for clarification
Speaker 2: on that, if anyone one was thinking about it, But
Speaker 2: anytime I say hypoxic, people go what, So I just
Speaker 2: say traumatic a lot of times, but just if anyone
Speaker 2: was like from the medical community, it was like listening
Speaker 2: and they're like, that doesn't add up that.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to clarify that.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't take any take or change anything from
Speaker 2: the conversation because a lot of times we were dealing.
Speaker 1: With specialists who specialized in like TBI.
Speaker 2: Because again, like the behaviors that you would exhibit and
Speaker 2: stuff are the same, just the cause is different. So yes,
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Speaker 2: speaking to listening, We're excited for you to listen to
Speaker 2: our guest interview today. She is a stand up comedian,
Speaker 2: she's a writer, she's an award winning producer.
Speaker 1: She's a very talented actress. She's got a gorgeous ass
Speaker 1: face and that's at the bottom of the list because
Speaker 1: she's so talented at all these other stuff. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: please welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Gabby Brian.
Speaker 6: I was feeling so lone, nowhere to go.
Speaker 1: On my own, feel like nobody knows. I can't understand.
Speaker 2: Who I am.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna take it anymore, no holding back, not
Speaker 7: like before. I'm not gonna be sorry.
Speaker 8: You thought you could persmas, well, I'm not doing now
Speaker 8: none as to apologize.
Speaker 6: Maybe telling you lies.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna be sorry, no.
Speaker 1: Just for in.
Speaker 8: Oh my am.
Speaker 9: You don't read the world and I have fell my shelf.
Speaker 9: F Now I'm gonna take any mob.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna take it anymore, no holding back back,
Speaker 7: not like b.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be Si. If thought you could pusmas.
Speaker 8: Well I'm not going down.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 8: Eyes.
Speaker 10: No, so.
Speaker 1: It's a good puss.
Speaker 5: You're good.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought that was Mike doing that.
Speaker 1: It was annoying, like Mike sor she takes it back.
Speaker 1: Now your own person And I don't take offense to
Speaker 1: things I don't saying personally.
Speaker 2: Literally such a mic moment where where there's a most
Speaker 2: whistles or drop something.
Speaker 3: But Christina did it today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, set it up.
Speaker 2: No, No, guys, we are here with stand up comedian
Speaker 2: and shining smile.
Speaker 1: However, Gabby, you do glow.
Speaker 3: Gabby, I have a facial oil on that.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jesse, you have to tell us off the pods.
Speaker 2: We're not accidentally promoting someone's up hanging of course, of course,
Speaker 2: of course, so welcome to the show having me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like I like you you When you do comedy,
Speaker 2: you feel like someone I would actually want to hang
Speaker 2: out with. And I can't really say that about any
Speaker 2: well about most comedians, like they would be fun to
Speaker 2: like have it a roast.
Speaker 1: Or drink with right, But I actually hang.
Speaker 2: I don't know that in daytime, I would want to
Speaker 2: be around them.
Speaker 3: That warms my heart.
Speaker 1: You do you like the way you and the way
Speaker 1: you also talk to young women.
Speaker 2: I also enjoy because you know you're you're roasting them,
Speaker 2: but oh, it goes over the head.
Speaker 3: I love roasting women because we deserve to be roasted,
Speaker 3: but I don't want We don't need men exact comedians
Speaker 3: comedians roasting women, so but we need someone roasting them, Yes,
Speaker 3: and I will. I want them to know that I
Speaker 3: love them. Yeah, We're all going to be roasted, and
Speaker 3: I'm involved, Like I'm roasting them, but I'm also roasting
Speaker 3: myself in the process.
Speaker 2: You give, you give a lot, Like even when you're
Speaker 2: hosting your show, we learn a lot about who you
Speaker 2: are and the mistakes you've made. But like, if there's
Speaker 2: something you know it just because you look like you're
Speaker 2: very put together.
Speaker 3: In your reveals.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously it could just be art, you know,
Speaker 2: making up stuff. Who knows, you know, because everyone comes
Speaker 2: up like like every bit of stand up comedy is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent accurate, And I'm like, well, your no
Speaker 2: will no, you will never know exactly what is real
Speaker 2: and what is now. There's a little yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't tell people real?
Speaker 3: What are you?
Speaker 1: A mess? Like a hot mess?
Speaker 3: I'm not a hot mess, Okay, I would say very
Speaker 3: I'm like calm mess.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Y?
Speaker 3: That sounds fun. I make the same mistakes over and
Speaker 3: over to a point where it's not a mess. Really,
Speaker 3: it's kind of just a pattern.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did it take you a while to realize you're
Speaker 2: making the same mistakes over and over?
Speaker 1: Have you known it the whole time?
Speaker 3: I've known it.
Speaker 4: I kind of it's something special when you have a
Speaker 4: front row seat to your fuck up and you're like,
Speaker 4: here I go again, and I'm doing the thing and
Speaker 4: I'm dating that person again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you but you don't do anything about it.
Speaker 3: You just watch. Yeah. I kind of do this thing
Speaker 3: where I go out with a guy. Let's say we're
Speaker 3: talking about dating. I go with a guy. I go,
Speaker 3: he's absolutely insane, this will be funny, and then I
Speaker 3: fall in love with him.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you wait, so you really start? Do you?
Speaker 2: Are you being honest with yourself when you truly start it?
Speaker 2: Just saying like this will be funny, like this is
Speaker 2: for a joke. Yeah, because really, yes, you know what.
Speaker 3: I think we all are so riddled with disease as
Speaker 3: comedians that we're like so actually bored in real Like
Speaker 3: I'm pretty calm and boring in my brain and I
Speaker 3: need some sort of outside entertainment because I don't want
Speaker 3: to perform off stage.
Speaker 1: I agree with that part.
Speaker 2: I do find if I if I get bored, I
Speaker 2: have to cause chaos for sure.
Speaker 1: So a chaotic.
Speaker 3: Person, I'm like, oh yeah, give me a mess that
Speaker 3: I can clean up. Let me listen.
Speaker 1: What's a what brand of chaotic man do you like?
Speaker 1: Because there's so many different kinds.
Speaker 3: There's so many different kinds, and they're all hot.
Speaker 1: They're also set, they're all hot.
Speaker 3: I love a neck tattoo oheak my language, gold teeth,
Speaker 3: oh a gold or like one. I love a smattering.
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite celebrity in this genre of bad boy?
Speaker 2: I like post Malone, like I'll go full out like dirt,
Speaker 2: like I like some Do you smell bad? I think
Speaker 2: post Malone probably really does. Smell's a kind heart you smell.
Speaker 1: Through the photo?
Speaker 3: He seems kind? He does, yes, and his lyrics are great.
Speaker 3: Why do you get face tattoos?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 3: I support it? Yeah, I like Machine Gun Kelly, like,
Speaker 3: yeah's I'm not obsessed with him. I don't like blonde
Speaker 3: guys because I feel like I'm related to them. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that genre of guy who's just like really intense and
Speaker 3: he's like, he's moody, s he's.
Speaker 2: So immature though, that's the problem, you like the immature.
Speaker 3: I don't do it on purpose, but yeah, who's that
Speaker 3: coming from?
Speaker 1: You think?
Speaker 3: Because they're so crazy and it's fun.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you really just want entertainment in your life.
Speaker 4: It is kind of fun. And then the thing is
Speaker 4: you can't help who you fall in love with.
Speaker 1: But you can. You can, you can, you can steer yourself.
Speaker 2: Like I I know when I'm in the process of
Speaker 2: making myself become obsessed, I do it.
Speaker 1: I do it on purpose, yes, because.
Speaker 3: Because we're girls and we love a fandom. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: I I've always been like a fan of something, and
Speaker 3: then when something's so insane, I'm like, oh my god, fuck,
Speaker 3: and I just love it.
Speaker 1: I imagine you if you ever get married.
Speaker 2: One day you're at the what you're you're making your
Speaker 2: speech and you're like when I first met you, I
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Literally, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, who's the crazies guy you've ever dated? Like
Speaker 1: give us some hits, So, like, what kind of what
Speaker 1: kind of what kind of behaviors have you personally experienced
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, I should change, you know.
Speaker 3: I love a guy who's like immediately obsessed with me.
Speaker 3: Oh so like a love bombing.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next followup question when you
Speaker 2: described the kind of guy you like, because I was like,
Speaker 2: that's a love bombing.
Speaker 1: When I I love bombing, I'm like, great, a bomb
Speaker 1: of love, sign me up. But then it is toxic.
Speaker 3: I actually had to have a gen z explain to
Speaker 3: me why it was bad?
Speaker 1: Did say say?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I was like, so what is I think
Speaker 3: it was day? I was like, what is love bombing?
Speaker 3: And they explained it to me and I was like,
Speaker 3: and why is that? Why do we not want? And
Speaker 3: they're like it's a manipulative And I'm like.
Speaker 1: But what if they're wrong? And for me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what if they are in love with me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem because because when when someone love
Speaker 2: bombs me, I just think finally, someone who gets someone exactly,
Speaker 2: someone understand.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, what I've been saying. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the that's the problem. I still can't delineate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's Yeah, how do you know? How do you
Speaker 2: know if it's a love bomb or not? Like, what
Speaker 2: are the signs?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: I think the pace at which it's moving is the
Speaker 2: number one giveaway, because a healthy love is supposed to
Speaker 2: grow at a slower pace, like the way like if
Speaker 2: you're making a snowman and you're making one of the balls,
Speaker 2: Like you have to earn each other's trust, in other words,
Speaker 2: not just give it to each other. Yeah, and just
Speaker 2: because someone by, Yeah, like fucking samples.
Speaker 3: A cost follow me while you're at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, where's my home address?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But then when you like, I started going out with
Speaker 3: a normal, healthy guy, and I was like, okay, he
Speaker 3: wants me dead, Like you want to see me once
Speaker 3: a week?
Speaker 1: Right, once a week?
Speaker 2: That's not a lot.
Speaker 1: I like once a week? But what's his occupation? But
Speaker 1: it's better.
Speaker 3: It's because he's working and he cares about his Yeah, career,
Speaker 3: it is right. But I'm like, if you like me,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to see me every day, every day. No,
Speaker 3: and then I and then I go to hate it,
Speaker 3: so yeah them, yeah, and then I'm like I need space.
Speaker 3: But in the beginning I was like, when you're not.
Speaker 1: You built your own hamster wheel and you're like, why
Speaker 1: am I on here? Yeah, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: That's the thing with love bombing is you do you
Speaker 2: grow sick of the person at a much faster rate,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have intense short relationships. And I'm speaking
Speaker 2: about this like I know about it because I do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: speaking at this from a professional active of someone who
Speaker 2: does this all the time exactly because it just feels exciting.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like when people talk about what they're looking for,
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, I'm trying to build a slow burn
Speaker 2: people to.
Speaker 1: Be there for me. I go, I don't need that.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was at home last night doing all my crazy
Speaker 2: fucking witchcraft shit, and then I went to sleep with
Speaker 2: my dog and I was like, this was the best
Speaker 2: night ever, and if I had to wake up next
Speaker 2: to someone, it would ruin everything.
Speaker 3: That I just did tonight.
Speaker 2: Yes, Witchcraft, well, I mean I've been practicing with us
Speaker 2: since I was in like seventh grade.
Speaker 1: So I was just doing you know, jar spells. It's
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 3: What's the difference between a regular spell and a jar spell?
Speaker 1: A jar a jar?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a jar spell is just it's just a
Speaker 2: it's just a category of spells, and it's you'd almost
Speaker 2: think of it as like the same was like a
Speaker 2: jar salad. It's just an like an easier way to
Speaker 2: approach a spell, like if you yeah, because se spells
Speaker 2: can be more complicated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I'm not, like, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I know, witchcraft is very in vogue right now, so
Speaker 2: it feels almost embarrassing talking about it. But I like
Speaker 2: have been seriously like practicing wiccas since I was in
Speaker 2: seventh grade, So that's amazing.
Speaker 3: We used to do that in college a lot. We
Speaker 3: would get really drunk, me and my theater school friends obviously.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, theater kids.
Speaker 3: Yes, we would buy a spell book and we would
Speaker 3: drunk on four loco and we would kind of attempt
Speaker 3: to do the spell. It wouldn't work, but that was nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, at least we wanted we were doing
Speaker 1: something that could have worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were doing something together.
Speaker 2: But what kind of spells were you doing?
Speaker 3: How do you know that they didn't work. One time
Speaker 3: my friends. I wasn't actually at this spell, but it
Speaker 3: is the most famous college spell story of my friend group.
Speaker 1: Anything has a spell.
Speaker 3: Story, you always have a spell.
Speaker 1: Go into the woods to get one raccoon's toenail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, all right, I guess we're going
Speaker 3: to don't even ask questions. Yeah, there was like an
Speaker 3: old cat who had one eye in the neighborhood and
Speaker 3: they were all, you know, drunken high, and they were like,
Speaker 3: let's do a healing spell on this cat. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it's sweet out of kindness. The spell was born and
Speaker 3: they did the spell, but they didn't have sage, so
Speaker 3: they used like weed and they have something, so they
Speaker 3: use like whatever, tap water or windows and then they
Speaker 3: did just spell and all they all of a sudden
Speaker 3: there were a bunch of cats at the back door,
Speaker 3: all scratching in.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Spell?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so something happened. The cats still didn't have an eye,
Speaker 3: but all the cats were.
Speaker 1: Called cool something.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they're like, you know, magic, it can't
Speaker 2: magic icy k. It can't do like things the way
Speaker 2: magic without the K can do because the but so's
Speaker 2: I couldn't bring the eye back. But maybe the healing
Speaker 2: was in the community. Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe maybe it
Speaker 2: did work.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they created.
Speaker 2: Some sort of cat your energy, yes, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: your energy was calling from the spell was calling in
Speaker 2: the cat.
Speaker 1: Animals were sensitive.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But have you ever did a guy? I was
Speaker 1: into witchy stuff.
Speaker 3: For those I feel I've never did it.
Speaker 1: I never met a warlock.
Speaker 2: They actually only like to be called witches. Think you're
Speaker 2: on Hinge.
Speaker 3: I've never found a warlock, and who's not gay. I
Speaker 3: have a collection of gay warlocks.
Speaker 1: We all do as you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would even consider myself one of them.
Speaker 1: But I'm a gay warlock.
Speaker 3: I've never met a straight world Yeah yeah do you so?
Speaker 2: You said Hinge? Is that the only dating app that
Speaker 2: you're on?
Speaker 1: I'm on Hinge on I was. I was actually be
Speaker 1: on Rio right just to see.
Speaker 3: But everyone you meet on Riya is just the worst
Speaker 3: person you've ever met in your life.
Speaker 2: I met one really good person on Riya though. The
Speaker 2: only boyfriend I ever had from a dating app is
Speaker 2: from Riot.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: Everyone was terrible except for that one person. I saw
Speaker 1: the profile of one mister Trevor Noah once and I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, yes, And I was like should I
Speaker 1: re Should I close the app and reopen it to
Speaker 1: do it again? I was so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this will keep me on that app for ten years?
Speaker 3: Yes, same, I saw him, so, I saw Pete Davidson
Speaker 3: was on it. None of them have said yes to me, so.
Speaker 1: That could be Boughts too. I mean as much as
Speaker 1: men get tricked, I feel like women could get tricked
Speaker 1: on dating apps.
Speaker 2: I feel like those guys are maybe are also like
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe the app like paid them to make
Speaker 2: a profile, but they never.
Speaker 1: Interact on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Trevor Noah.
Speaker 1: He's so hot. I saw him in person at the
Speaker 1: CNL party and you always seem in the suit. He
Speaker 1: was wearing a leather jacket and I was like, whoa
Speaker 1: fuck is up with your face? Everything about you is
Speaker 1: like the sexiest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: He is it.
Speaker 1: And he's good at sand up, stand up surprisingly yeah,
Speaker 1: all around a man with dimples. Oh yeah, Because.
Speaker 2: When he showed up, I was like, this guy's too
Speaker 2: hot and has too cool of an accent to be
Speaker 2: good at stand up. And then he did stand up
Speaker 2: and it was like this in a band of CD
Speaker 2: and you're like, fuck, you're good at stand up too, off,
Speaker 2: well you're a asshole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're all mad.
Speaker 4: You can have a stand up comedian that's so hot
Speaker 4: it's distracting a male stand up comedian.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know. Everybody says I was women, and I kind
Speaker 2: of like, I get it. I get what they're saying,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean you really got to almost work
Speaker 2: harder if you're hot.
Speaker 1: Well that well, yeah that's what you know.
Speaker 2: Matt Rife is, you know, touring hugely right now, and
Speaker 2: you can tell, and he's just getting frustrated because it's
Speaker 2: it's turned into like a live escort.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Magic MIC's.
Speaker 3: People are like screaming at him like, yeah, here's tits,
Speaker 3: Like can I just say a sentence? I'll get to
Speaker 3: your tits absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh, women can be scummy too.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: I get annoyed for him too, because I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like how much empathy can I have for someone
Speaker 2: who's that good looking for them? Yeah, but then I'm
Speaker 2: just like, it is annoying if you truly love stand
Speaker 2: up and you're working at it, Like how fucking annoying?
Speaker 3: Yeah? His bone structure. I would love his bone structure.
Speaker 3: Great face.
Speaker 1: Do you think he.
Speaker 3: Has gotten bucle fat removal or that's natural?
Speaker 1: What is that? You don't know what?
Speaker 2: Bugle fat removed and one that makes you look gaunt?
Speaker 2: That's like, that's the whole thing now, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the whole thing. You gotta get that sucked down, you die.
Speaker 3: I want my bugle fat removed and put into my tits.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to recycle it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just move it all here, just just move it
Speaker 2: at tits. Oh okay, So that's how people get that.
Speaker 2: That's not a natural look. No, it's completely it's sucked out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, there's so many procedures.
Speaker 3: No one's face is real. Fuck, no one's face is real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of like, oh, you're cheating, but
Speaker 1: then you do look hotter, so and I like looking
Speaker 1: at you better now.
Speaker 3: So have you seen Leah Michelle lately? New face?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Brand new face that's from Glee? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh I loved her face. I mean whatever again, that's
Speaker 1: I I I dish out the same comments that I'm like, guys,
Speaker 1: it's her body, her choice. And then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, you cheat her like it's a peril.
Speaker 3: You know, I want to google new Face, Liam new Face.
Speaker 3: You know there's jaws sculpted the lips.
Speaker 1: That's not a consour.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, the bugle fat is gowing.
Speaker 1: Wow, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's like that's like, as.
Speaker 1: Is that invasive? I mean, I don't know how they
Speaker 1: get it out.
Speaker 3: That's a good question, wow, because no one scarred up,
Speaker 3: so it has to be kind of like a suction.
Speaker 1: It seems like it could be a small needle.
Speaker 2: The way you put stuff the filler in, it seems
Speaker 2: like you're kind of taking it out the same way.
Speaker 1: I know. I hope men I'll find out what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Johnny Resnik does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he looks not great way dark doesn't.
Speaker 3: Plastic surgery doesn't really look good on men. Maybe it
Speaker 3: looks insane, or maybe men haven't.
Speaker 2: We don't realize it because they've gotten good plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: I feel like when you see it, it's so glaringly obvious,
Speaker 2: you're like, you went to the discount guy. But it's
Speaker 2: one of the few medicines that more work has been
Speaker 2: put in four females than males. So that's why just
Speaker 2: the same way as like that we like we like
Speaker 2: they're like.
Speaker 3: What if a girl's autistic, we don't even know.
Speaker 2: That's how it is, like a face, I know.
Speaker 1: What it feels like.
Speaker 3: That's she's just a crazy bitch. If a girl's autistic,
Speaker 3: we don't even really know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. An article about how like women are so trained
Speaker 1: and socialized to be like polite and whatever that they've
Speaker 1: like trained themselves to hide symptoms of autism to their
Speaker 1: doctors just without even knowing him.
Speaker 3: We're hiding everything.
Speaker 1: I know, of course, we're hiding auto you know, I
Speaker 1: know hiding.
Speaker 3: I know girls, if you're on the spectrum, just a spectrum, yeah,
Speaker 3: or maybe you've hit it from your self.
Speaker 2: Women are really good at hiding things, Yeah, from themselves
Speaker 2: and from others.
Speaker 3: That's so true.
Speaker 4: Do you have something you're you were hiding about yourself
Speaker 4: that you like finally stopped and you're like, oh, or
Speaker 4: like a part of a part of your personality or
Speaker 4: I don't know, like a I don't know.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think when I just turned twenty nine,
Speaker 3: and I think that's been the age, like I've always like,
Speaker 3: I know myself, Yeah, this I have it on lock.
Speaker 3: And then you wake up at twenty nine and you're like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck? Who am I? Who am I? What's
Speaker 3: going on? What do I want to do? What do
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Everything is like it's like a racer on a whiteboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all gone.
Speaker 3: And are you work you've done?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Do you think the things that you were concentrating on
Speaker 2: aren't like, aren't important anymore? Do you see a like
Speaker 2: do you are you not interested in being the entertainment
Speaker 2: business because you're from an entertainment business family, So has
Speaker 2: that like were you always wanting to.
Speaker 1: Be in the entertainment business?
Speaker 3: I think I just always was, And then I woke
Speaker 3: up at twenty nine and I was like, oh, oh
Speaker 3: I want to Like, you didn't make it any good choice.
Speaker 3: It was just like we that's what everyone does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're, yeah, what what can you tell us
Speaker 2: more about that? You're you're always been in the entertainment industry,
Speaker 2: I know a little bit, but like.
Speaker 3: Well, my dad's a musician and my uh mom's and painter.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool to have both parents and the artists.
Speaker 1: I know that's like very lean and done on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you believe in yourself in a way that you're
Speaker 1: like curious to go deeper in your own psyche.
Speaker 3: I imagine, Well, there's just like no shame at all.
Speaker 3: You hear a lot of comedians coming up and they're
Speaker 3: like my parents were like, get a job, and my
Speaker 3: parents were like, talk about your tits on day.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool, that's really cool.
Speaker 3: I remember I just supported Yeah, I did a show
Speaker 3: and my dad was in the audience and I had
Speaker 3: this big bit about blow jobs and I got off
Speaker 3: stage and he goes, I have the perfect tag for
Speaker 3: your Oh my god, and.
Speaker 1: I was like vernacular the tag. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: So they're big comedy fans, so they always just supported me.
Speaker 1: So I was just kind of doing it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's great.
Speaker 2: Have you been around a lot of famous people since
Speaker 2: you were a kid? Yes, I know, yeah, Like who
Speaker 2: who cool that You're like, oh, that's uncle so and so,
Speaker 2: and someone's like what the fuck? Mmm?
Speaker 3: Really? Excepting okay, Queen Latifa lived in my town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also.
Speaker 3: I would see her a dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, I know, dunk.
Speaker 2: She's a bitch, yeah, which runs on.
Speaker 3: I feel like I was around just a lot of
Speaker 3: like normal kind of like there would be a smattering
Speaker 3: of famous people, but it was mostly like like working musicians.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm dating a musician. It's so fun being around musicians.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They just when they hang out, they sing and play
Speaker 1: their music and you're like, this is what you guys
Speaker 1: fucking do in your spare time. Everyone needs an instrument magical, magical,
Speaker 1: right right? Talented, Like what the fuck? It's really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of like songwriters and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: So how did you How do you think you landed
Speaker 2: in comedy? Were you always the funny person? Was it
Speaker 2: just something that you like? There was like no one's
Speaker 2: done this yet.
Speaker 3: I just I think I just did it well. I
Speaker 3: went to theater school unfortunately, and oh yeah, you didn't
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 1: It was gay something to do.
Speaker 3: It's pretty gay. It was a little too like I
Speaker 3: grew up doing music and then I got into theater
Speaker 3: school and it was a little like everyone was like
Speaker 3: in their high school theater.
Speaker 1: Club, and I was like everyone was the best.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a nerd, but I get
Speaker 3: I kept getting cast is like the lead, the blonde
Speaker 3: girl lead, and I'm like, I really want to wear
Speaker 3: the fat suit. I want to be the character. I
Speaker 3: want to be the old person. And then I'm like,
Speaker 3: how do I figure out how to get into the comedic?
Speaker 1: I just like the comedic roles. Yeah, I just stand
Speaker 1: stand up. Yeah, that's a great shoot, that's a great route.
Speaker 3: I also think, as a woman, hate hate to say it,
Speaker 3: we're always trying to like, uh give ourselves like impossible
Speaker 3: uh like challenges.
Speaker 2: You were like, I'm hot? How do I not be?
Speaker 1: What is the job?
Speaker 3: We're being hot? It hurts?
Speaker 1: Stand up?
Speaker 3: Stand up?
Speaker 2: That's nice because anytime I got it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most of us feel this way.
Speaker 2: But and till you see like someone who could be
Speaker 2: a model, who's a comedian yourself and my Matt Rife concluded,
Speaker 2: I I am suspect of this person, and prove me otherwise,
Speaker 2: you know. So I go, I'm gonna keep my eye
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 1: Yes and.
Speaker 3: No. I was like one day, I'm like, why the
Speaker 3: fuck did I do that? I could be the queen
Speaker 3: of marketing right now. I could be running an office firm.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, head of some sort of firm.
Speaker 1: But I just signed sort of with your Tory birch flats.
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Last Yes, I'm such a fucking idiot. I literally am
Speaker 3: an idiot.
Speaker 1: You love a challenge, I love a challenge.
Speaker 3: I guess what's.
Speaker 1: Been the greatest challenge in your life so far?
Speaker 3: Doing goddamn stands up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Seriously, yeah, I think so. It's so hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard, but I like you. You're just chipping away something,
Speaker 2: chipping away something and your soul, but also like the
Speaker 2: jokes and and how you are on stage in your act,
Speaker 2: and it is. It is one of those things where
Speaker 2: the more effort you put in, the better you get results.
Speaker 1: It is. It's like a doctor. If you I want
Speaker 1: to be a doctor, there's the path, honest to god,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a stand up just fucking
Speaker 1: do it for ten years incessantly. Yeah, you will eventually
Speaker 1: get good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you wake up one day and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh I'm good now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank god? Oh thank because I was.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say everyone because it for ten years would
Speaker 2: get good because we you know, there are people who've
Speaker 2: been good going around, you know, in our But I
Speaker 2: think I think, like, yes, you can improve being funny,
Speaker 2: like you have to have some natural ability.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can work on being funny for sure.
Speaker 4: So you get a lot of people coming up to
Speaker 4: you after shows, men probably, but maybe women too, Like
Speaker 4: I usually don't like women. I know, usually don't think
Speaker 4: women are funny, but like, oh, I didn't think you're
Speaker 4: gonna be funny because you're pretty.
Speaker 1: Like do you ever get that said to you?
Speaker 3: I used to get the I didn't think women are funny,
Speaker 3: but you're the one woman like that. But every female
Speaker 3: comic gets that. Yeah, yeah, you're saying that to every
Speaker 3: female commed right.
Speaker 1: You just think it's interesting. Have you ever tried to
Speaker 1: get fucked after a show by an audience member?
Speaker 3: That's why I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: But really, is it working me?
Speaker 2: Because maybe because you're you're like a significantly enough younger
Speaker 2: than us that maybe the new generation is like because
Speaker 2: you're like very end of millennial.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm yeah, well yeah, yeah, I think twenty seven
Speaker 3: is the end of yeah millennial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're it's towards the end, and so I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, maybe maybe it was a brighter
Speaker 2: future people were seeing more for women at.
Speaker 3: A younger I feel like I started on the CUSP. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the CUSP where it was like the first two years
Speaker 3: of comedy was like the really toxic kind of your
Speaker 3: your gen and I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, And then suddenly
Speaker 3: overnight I'm like, oh, there's a bunch of girls.
Speaker 1: Here right right, right, right right. It happened pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I saw I saw the first half the
Speaker 3: first bed, and then I came up with, you know,
Speaker 3: doing Bobby Kelly's podcast with all the old like seller dogs.
Speaker 3: I really experience that and love them, but you know,
Speaker 3: I got roasted to oblivion.
Speaker 2: And you had to really earn, like to talk amongst
Speaker 2: a bunch of male comedians that are all on what
Speaker 2: the same podcast. You really have to what you say
Speaker 2: has to be important and you have to know where
Speaker 2: to insert.
Speaker 1: How'd you end up there?
Speaker 3: I don't even know I was. I was uh like
Speaker 3: linked up with Lenny Marcus, who's like very funny comedy
Speaker 3: star guy. Because my the guy who planned my Mitz
Speaker 3: Fuss stick with me here is a dj okay and
Speaker 3: he grew up with Lenny Marcus in the Jewish community
Speaker 3: and he was like, I know the stand, you know.
Speaker 3: I was like maybe I was like two years in
Speaker 3: maybe maybe maybe, And he was like, go like have
Speaker 3: coffee with Lenny. And then I just became friends with
Speaker 3: him and I would like run around to his spots
Speaker 3: and he would help me with my stand up whatever.
Speaker 3: And we were sitting in the cellar at the Olive
Speaker 3: Tree one night and it was like the day that
Speaker 3: Bobby's produce, like last producer had left.
Speaker 1: And they were scrambling for a new one.
Speaker 3: Oh, and Lenny was like, you know what, fuck it,
Speaker 3: let's I'll go introduce you to Bobby. And Bobby's like
Speaker 3: Boston trash and I'm Jersey trash. There got along, yeah,
Speaker 3: and immediately we were both like fuck you okay, and
Speaker 3: I started he was like come up and just like
Speaker 3: sitting in the podcast and I started that.
Speaker 2: That's great for like three years or something, and that's
Speaker 2: how that's how the shops rolling.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It made me.
Speaker 3: Uh, it made me a sociopath for sure. Nice because
Speaker 3: it's just like the best comedians in the world roasting
Speaker 3: the living. I would leave there with a limp. I
Speaker 3: would get roasted so bad, yeah, so consistently.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And then it just made me like, well, it trains
Speaker 4: your brain how to think and like how to roast
Speaker 4: and have like being on a podcast when it's a
Speaker 4: bunch of comedians in the point of the podcast is
Speaker 4: just a comedy roundtable.
Speaker 1: There is a dance to it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to be so quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I started hosting his show at the Cellar,
Speaker 3: which was like way before. I mean I was like
Speaker 3: bombing ass at the Cellar, you know, two three years in,
Speaker 3: and it just made me good.
Speaker 1: Quick yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I think women comics, especially
Speaker 1: like cute young female comics that aren't that aren't that
Speaker 1: far into comedy. We get opportunities a little too early, yes,
Speaker 1: but it is kind of cool to be like, all right,
Speaker 1: I know this is premature. I probably know why I
Speaker 1: got it, but let's fucking go. Yeah. And then well
Speaker 1: they were cool.
Speaker 3: They weren't creepy at all, thank god, that's good. They
Speaker 3: were very like it was like my dad's and daughter.
Speaker 3: I think, oh that's nice creepiness.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's good.
Speaker 3: Thank god. I got called a skirt a lot. But
Speaker 3: other than that, a.
Speaker 2: Skirt in like a in like a justy.
Speaker 3: Kind of way, like it's like a nineties Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it was cute. Yeah yeah, like Grandpa roasting.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly you talk You talked about mindful dating, uh
Speaker 2: to me and our DMS?
Speaker 1: What what I? And after I was like, what the
Speaker 1: I mean? I know what mindfulness is?
Speaker 3: And I made that up.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, because I well, I mean it, it is
Speaker 2: a real thing. I looked up articles on it and
Speaker 2: I was like and I was like, what does it
Speaker 2: mean it? And then like one short blip just said
Speaker 2: like basically being present while you're dating, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, what's the opposite like being roofy somewhere else?
Speaker 1: Just checked out?
Speaker 3: Wait sidebar, did you know that gay men are doing ruflin?
Speaker 3: Do you know that drug is? It's called G.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. Yeah, they've been doing that for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my really there's a club called G really yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know if that's what the inspiration,
Speaker 2: but me thinks it might have been.
Speaker 3: I just went out and it really warms my heart.
Speaker 3: It's like you can really find a positive to anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I found a positive to rufe's.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And when the community takes it, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or are they appropriating female culture.
Speaker 10: That rufees is ours? Can't we have any kids from
Speaker 10: our rape drug?
Speaker 3: God? You take makeup and you take rufees is there
Speaker 3: nothing holy laugh mindful da What I said by mindful dating,
Speaker 3: I meant like the idea of like getting older, realizing
Speaker 3: the patterns we're going on, like this idea of talking
Speaker 3: to crazy guys and being entertained by it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just kind of like clocking in because I think you're
Speaker 3: in your twenties and you're dating. I am like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not even there really or you wronker, No, you
Speaker 3: just don't have to speak or listen when you're on
Speaker 3: a date with a man and then you wake up
Speaker 3: suddenly and you're in love with them, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: That's a you thing?
Speaker 3: Maybe is that a mean thing?
Speaker 2: I talk too much on dates, so I have I
Speaker 2: have a different I have a different thing. But like, wait,
Speaker 2: tell me more about that. I've never they just not.
Speaker 2: It is kind of nice to like, especially the first
Speaker 2: couple of dates, like let them talk because like, show
Speaker 2: me who you are.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna sit back, tire yourself out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right right, New.
Speaker 2: Jersey basics Gabby Brian Brian Brian, just Gabby Melissa.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so now I'm trying to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not just dating for fun, for crazy stories for whatever.
Speaker 3: And now I'm if I'm going to go on a date,
Speaker 3: If I'm going to spend my fucking one night off
Speaker 3: right on a goddamn date, right, it better be for
Speaker 3: a clear reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you how do you establish that
Speaker 1: with the guy?
Speaker 3: I don't This is brand new. I typed that brand
Speaker 3: and I was like, Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's something I want to do.
Speaker 3: Oh that's something that's on my list.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wait, are you.
Speaker 1: Seeing anyone right now?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, So when you talked about that healthy guy
Speaker 2: that bored you, how long ago was that and how
Speaker 2: long did it last?
Speaker 3: That is someone I'm like just talking to. But he
Speaker 3: lives in England.
Speaker 1: At a distance, Yeah, boring in the distance.
Speaker 3: He's healthy, he lives in England. I think it's I
Speaker 3: don't have in England when I was out there for.
Speaker 1: A nice there's a lot of hot guys in England
Speaker 1: on a I love an English guy. I'm on my
Speaker 1: like third or fourth English. Your Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: Don't call me Taylor Swist.
Speaker 1: Stop. But that's what she's doing. I don't have bank,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that.
Speaker 2: Is the main thing that makes that's why she sells
Speaker 2: out stadiums.
Speaker 3: It's because of the bank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't have the bank, her big forehead would
Speaker 1: turn everybody off.
Speaker 3: No, people wouldn't be listening to her musician.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I didn't realize just how many consistently
Speaker 2: British guys she's dated until I, you know, had to
Speaker 2: google and went to my trustee, Taylor Swift relationship timeline
Speaker 2: that everyone any celebrity, there's a someone made a timeline
Speaker 2: so fun and appreciate it. But yeah, there is What
Speaker 2: is it about the British dudes? Just the accent because
Speaker 2: I used to like that, but I got a vibe too.
Speaker 1: Id Irish guys. I'm Irish guys.
Speaker 2: Oh, the vibe, the accent, school, the vibe. They're fun
Speaker 2: as ship, Yes, fun as ship, and they get tanked
Speaker 2: and they're like can handle their liquor and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh ship, we could go the distance.
Speaker 3: And they have rosation. They're always kind of like the duress.
Speaker 1: Yeah whoa poetic with words? Yeah, I'm in British.
Speaker 4: Guys are just like so like, I feel like you
Speaker 4: could be the fun gal in a British guy's life. Yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 4: I've never met a woman that lights up a room
Speaker 4: like that, you know, because they seem so goddamn contained.
Speaker 2: So wait, we're just doing the emotional laborer guy, guy,
Speaker 2: we got that totally.
Speaker 1: But if you got those muscles, baby, if you got
Speaker 1: the muscles, start lifting. I go, what have we been
Speaker 1: talking about for years?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I just love an accent. You could be the
Speaker 3: most miserable person on earth and I'm like, what.
Speaker 1: I couldn't hear you through?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like the accent.
Speaker 2: Well, I used to love the accent, and then when
Speaker 2: I actually went to England and everyone had the accent,
Speaker 2: I think I was less impressed by the accent.
Speaker 3: It does lessen it. Yeah, it does lessen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3: I did a guy for a long time who is
Speaker 3: from northern England.
Speaker 1: Oh that is fucking like cocky or like binder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like that.
Speaker 3: That's just like.
Speaker 1: It's almost Australian in a way. It's like funk that
Speaker 1: you're like, what are you saying?
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I love Lewis Capaldi.
Speaker 2: He's Scottish and I had to put on cations for
Speaker 2: his for his Netflix documentary because I couldn't.
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know what the am saying?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 3: I get an answer.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I tag him all the time on everything, and so
Speaker 2: much so that his girlfriend watched my Instagram stories.
Speaker 1: Because and I go, that's how you know, you cause
Speaker 1: the problem stir the pot id guys too. That's really funny.
Speaker 1: Do you like do Is that like a thing you've done?
Speaker 3: No, I don't do.
Speaker 1: I like to do it a lot.
Speaker 3: But for Lewis Capaldi, I watched his Chicken Shop Date
Speaker 3: so good. He was so funny, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I showed you Chicken Shop Date.
Speaker 3: You know what that is.
Speaker 2: It's it's the interviewer over like the Fish and Chips
Speaker 2: up where the really funny blonde girl Amelia and on
Speaker 2: dates with celebrities obsessed with her. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 2: That's so that series is better than any television show.
Speaker 1: It really is. I love Hot Ones so good.
Speaker 3: I love Hot Ones too, But that interviewer is like, really,
Speaker 3: he's like terribly on the spectrum.
Speaker 1: The guy. The guy, he's kind of like Terry gross,
Speaker 1: like his so prepared.
Speaker 3: He's just so like there's nothing going on and he's like,
Speaker 3: here's a question, and it kind of he's kind of
Speaker 3: scary to the premise is so good that it like
Speaker 3: fills the Yeah.
Speaker 2: He i''m sure he is scary. He wants like people.
Speaker 2: He gets joy out of seeing people almost burn their
Speaker 2: mouths off. Yeah, but he likes you can tell he likes.
Speaker 1: Does he like it? Yeah, he's into it.
Speaker 6: Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get into it. Twist. My friends threw me
Speaker 3: a hot One's birthday party this year.
Speaker 1: Oh so cute.
Speaker 3: He did a Hot One episode.
Speaker 1: Did you do it? Are you good with spice or not?
Speaker 1: I love spicy? Okay, so you can handle it without
Speaker 1: even having a facial express.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm sweating. I am a jew. Yeah, physically,
Speaker 3: but I like the shock of it all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah that once goes along with your
Speaker 2: dating history and how you go along with it.
Speaker 3: You're like, I just like to cause a problem. I
Speaker 3: need to start eating like unseasoned food and calm the
Speaker 3: fuck down.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's the spice, that spice.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's who's the Who's like the messiest kind of
Speaker 2: guy you've ever dated?
Speaker 1: I've dated got.
Speaker 3: Like guys who are like really depressed.
Speaker 1: A lot.
Speaker 3: I think I end up in that suddenly because it
Speaker 3: goes with all of the other attributes I like.
Speaker 2: Are you in a good mood the way you are
Speaker 2: now mostly of the time? Yes, okay, yes, yeah, ye like.
Speaker 1: Give me your life, Gabby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like, stop, I love it.
Speaker 1: You need me.
Speaker 3: Drain you though, Yes, I get very drained. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: and then I'll be like in love and love and love,
Speaker 3: and then suddenly I'm like, get away from me.
Speaker 2: When you're in a relationship so that you can feel
Speaker 2: like want it in a certain specific way, like if
Speaker 2: you can be the entertainer, you can lift them up.
Speaker 2: It is so appealing and so like toxically good. And
Speaker 2: then there's there's that pivot point where you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I fucking hate you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I'd like to take care of people. I
Speaker 3: think I have a very nurturing kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So just go men love that? Yeah yeah yeah. Who
Speaker 1: are you are?
Speaker 3: You have brothers and sisters?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have two brothers.
Speaker 3: Are you older?
Speaker 1: Younger? I have a twin brother? Oh cool? Oh so
Speaker 1: you're okay, So you're the older of the Do you
Speaker 1: have ESP with your twin brother.
Speaker 3: Kind of a little bit?
Speaker 1: That's so cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we just always are fit. I could tell
Speaker 3: how he's feeling.
Speaker 1: Oh, fun.
Speaker 3: If you cry, like when we were growing up, if
Speaker 3: he would cry, I would cry, even if I'm the
Speaker 3: one who's like physically punching him in the face.
Speaker 1: Are you.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but he's a real estate agent, who are
Speaker 3: like absolute opposites. He's quiet, I'm crazy Brooklyn comedian.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's a fun dynamic that is fun.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is he married?
Speaker 3: No, but he's dating a little Guido hairdresser who I love.
Speaker 1: Oh it's cute. Look is married?
Speaker 2: It's snooky when he when he dates someone that like
Speaker 2: you don't like, does that affect how he feels about her?
Speaker 1: Or has that lit ever happened? No?
Speaker 3: I like everyone. I love girls, like everybody everything, you
Speaker 3: know when it comes to girls, speaking of that, are
Speaker 3: you by? I am by, I'm newly by. I'm like
Speaker 3: eighty twenty eighty twenty. How did you discover like every woman?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 1: I yeah, I feel like I'm eighty twenty two.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah that's true, you know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like I think that. I think that
Speaker 2: that's why it was the thing, because like every society
Speaker 2: convinced me that I was like, oh, I guess everyone
Speaker 2: must just be into everyone and then yeah, you're really not.
Speaker 3: I tried, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like stating women is fun. They're just soft and lovely.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you don't have to you don't
Speaker 2: have to try hard to look a certain you should
Speaker 2: be yourself in very different way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 3: I feel like such an intellectual yeah, like with a woman,
Speaker 3: I'm just like, yeah.
Speaker 1: So, how did this all how did this all start?
Speaker 2: You were just feeling the feelings? How like how early
Speaker 2: in your life did you feel feelings of intimacy or
Speaker 2: lust towards women.
Speaker 3: I think in my twenties. Yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 3: was always like, oh, I'd love to like fuck a
Speaker 3: woman out at some point. Yeah, but then I'm so
Speaker 3: obsessed with guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm totally hear.
Speaker 3: You'm like, boy crazy, right, But then I want to
Speaker 3: have sex with a woman. And then when I go
Speaker 3: on a date with a woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like yeah, because it's hard to navigate hard,
Speaker 2: wait are you the guy or am I the guy
Speaker 2: or what?
Speaker 1: But then you realize, oh, we just exist. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: kind of freeing.
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard when you're dating someone you respect, which
Speaker 3: is my own trauma.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about that because I was like
Speaker 2: what I was like, I love women, and I can
Speaker 2: make a laundry list of women I love and admire
Speaker 2: and people I follow on the internet who I'm obsessed with,
Speaker 2: like Clementine Ford. I was just like watching her videos
Speaker 2: last night. I was like, I love this, Like I
Speaker 2: was trying to make myself and she has she did
Speaker 2: not consent to this, but like I was trying to
Speaker 2: make myself like want to have sex with her because
Speaker 2: I was like, I think she's so beautiful and she's
Speaker 2: so smart and she cares about the same things I do.
Speaker 2: I was like, I love everything about her, but I'm
Speaker 2: just like not there sexually. And then I look at
Speaker 2: you know who I'm attracted to sexually, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I hate that guy.
Speaker 3: He has no morals. Yeah, Like and that maybe is
Speaker 3: why he's hot. Yeah, why what occurs?
Speaker 1: Weird?
Speaker 3: It is a curse. But also it's so confusing to
Speaker 3: flirt with a woman because you're just like, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I love your outfit and I love your yes such
Speaker 3: full eyebrows. Are you gonna make out or are we? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like complicated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but so have you had a girlfriend?
Speaker 3: I dated a one girl okay, in between my last
Speaker 3: two boy relationships for a little bit, and I got
Speaker 3: so I mean classic like lesbian energy. It got so
Speaker 3: serious so fast yeah blah blah blah. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: so you don't like it when when it's a dumb guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: with a girl. I was just like, this is toxic
Speaker 3: because I'm actually paying attention.
Speaker 1: Oh how did you break it off? Like it was
Speaker 1: breaking up with a woman because women was yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: How long did it last? Just a couple of months?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a good hit. She wrote a songs about me.
Speaker 1: Oh you met you left the mark Gabby? Yeah, whoa
Speaker 1: songs about me? Whoa? And I listened to them and
Speaker 1: I was like, I send them to you or did
Speaker 1: you discover that.
Speaker 3: Now I discovered Well, she sent one to me and
Speaker 3: I listened to the rest of the album and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, sorry, I think it broke your heart
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now what is she a lesbian or was she also
Speaker 2: by because we were.
Speaker 3: Both first girl oh, which was fun.
Speaker 2: It was you don't have to worry about leading each other
Speaker 2: on because you're both like, I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: want to be here.
Speaker 3: So let's say if I was literally eating her pussy
Speaker 3: and I was like, I literally stopped, and I was like,
Speaker 3: is this something?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Is that something?
Speaker 1: The first time I ate a girl out? I did it.
Speaker 1: I did it, and I only did it for like
Speaker 1: ten seconds. I was like, was that good? And she's
Speaker 1: like it was great, But why did you stop? Like
Speaker 1: you can't? You just did it for ten seconds? Like yeah, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: right right? Did you just get like in your head
Speaker 1: in a totally different way?
Speaker 3: Well, because you're like, what the what is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you watch YouTube video before?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How did you watch porn? You just dived right into it.
Speaker 3: I just went in blind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go, just do it.
Speaker 2: No, I never go into anything blind. I researched sex
Speaker 2: before I had it. Yeah, I got a nail it.
Speaker 2: I gotta nail it.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I don't like porn. I don't like it
Speaker 3: anymore either, so I just could. I never every time
Speaker 3: I'm watching porn, I'm like kind of like.
Speaker 1: No, I I reached.
Speaker 2: I watched I like read things about sex.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch porn to learn how to have sex.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, like I like read like academic books about it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I don't think learning learning
Speaker 2: how to have sex from porn is a good idea
Speaker 2: at all. Porn stars will tell you that many porn
Speaker 2: stars have come on our show like, do not get your.
Speaker 1: Sex education from us. We need we need entertainment, we.
Speaker 3: Need some sort of sex education video. It's porn. You
Speaker 3: remember remember the movie Girl next Door, Yes, where they
Speaker 3: make the porn it's about it's like they make the
Speaker 3: new sex ad video.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Stoya was talking to us about that, but I think
Speaker 2: we were going to be we we We didn't end
Speaker 2: up doing it, but like she has Yeah, she pitched
Speaker 2: that idea to us, and we're like, oh, that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like we're we're in no, no, no, she has porn.
Speaker 1: She had porn stars like demonstrate the thing. But we
Speaker 1: were talking about it, and remember, yeah cut to that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a fucking great idea because that is
Speaker 1: a solid piece of education. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to launch this lube company. This is
Speaker 3: my big dream to leave entertainment and go into corporate
Speaker 3: America with that product. And it comes along with these
Speaker 3: like sex ad videos. Oh yeah, that's good, but it's
Speaker 3: more fun and flirty than people actually having sex, right,
Speaker 3: I can't put that on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Was there something about sex told that you didn't know
Speaker 2: that you wish you had a heads up on until
Speaker 2: you were there.
Speaker 3: I lost my virginity late. I lost my virginity when
Speaker 3: I was like seventeen, which is.
Speaker 2: That's new, that's not late at eighteen.
Speaker 1: Thinking of an eighteen year old having sex, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you guys are so young.
Speaker 3: All my friends were fucking at fourteen freshman in high school,
Speaker 3: and I like was like hideous until I was like, really,
Speaker 3: that's wow, good personality.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ugly it suddenly hot.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's perfect because at the right time,
Speaker 2: you don't need you don't need those people.
Speaker 1: You don't need to be fucking good when you're fifteen. No, no,
Speaker 1: I mean when you're fifteen, are you okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Something wrong there starts going on to that, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So I just kind of like at that point I
Speaker 3: knew everything about say, everyone was talking about it, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. Yeah, but they tried about it correctly though, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know that they never are. I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I remember when I was a kid, a boy in
Speaker 2: my neighborhood was like girls get their period where they
Speaker 2: pee out of their butts, and for like five straight years.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to be out of my boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 3: You really believe you take a kidding face value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because kids spread rumors like they fucking know what
Speaker 2: they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Say someone with confidence, motherfucker's gonna believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember people talked about blow jobs a lot,
Speaker 3: and I was always kind of like, that doesn't feel
Speaker 3: like on brand for me. I hear you, and I
Speaker 3: still in Paris doesn't give blow jobs. They're below her.
Speaker 1: That's how I yeah, yeah, that's not how I think
Speaker 1: about it at all.
Speaker 3: I'm very smart. There's very there's big ideas coming out
Speaker 3: of my mouth. There's nothing, there's no room for something.
Speaker 2: We can't cork it up. We needed to open open
Speaker 2: passageway at all.
Speaker 3: Times, exactly. There's just in case a good idea, but
Speaker 3: right right, it's out right right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't say a good idea when there's a
Speaker 1: dick in your mouth that's God the preach bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think there's very much two schools of thought on
Speaker 2: the blowjob. One is like the empowering you had the
Speaker 2: control that you have. Either one is like I'm so
Speaker 2: empowered when I get that away from me.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been. It's been my big study. I would say,
Speaker 3: it's kind of my movement. It's like figuring out. I
Speaker 3: hosted a show for like a betches last week and
Speaker 3: it was like all a audience of all women. It's
Speaker 3: like two hundred women, like I've never I've literally never
Speaker 3: had that experience.
Speaker 1: Really, I was it cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was like, now while we're here, let
Speaker 3: me conduct some studies. Me and I was like, do
Speaker 3: we get blowjobs? And some women were like yes, I
Speaker 3: love it, Like it's like, you know, empowering whatever. Finally
Speaker 3: I have control. Some women were like it has to
Speaker 3: be like if he goes down at me, I'll go
Speaker 3: down and sure, so one bitch, this crazy bitch was like, well,
Speaker 3: when I gave birth, we couldn't have sex for the
Speaker 3: next couple of months, so I just blew him. I
Speaker 3: was like, go to jail.
Speaker 2: Ah, give me your woman card right now.
Speaker 1: You deserve it. Cancel her canceled.
Speaker 3: And then some people are like, no, it's it's.
Speaker 2: I will say, I don't just suck anybody's dick, you know,
Speaker 2: I have to be like really into them.
Speaker 1: But it turns me on. Giving a blowjob actually turns
Speaker 1: me on a lot. I wish I would, so yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh wait, so what is so can
Speaker 1: you not sep dick?
Speaker 3: It just feels weird. You have a doctor's note. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. Doctor Mike says like, I'm sorry, there's
Speaker 3: a degree.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by the women in the Beaches audience who
Speaker 2: said that they don't give blowjobs. Did you dive into
Speaker 2: that anymore? Because I didn't know there was a group
Speaker 2: of women just actively saying we don't give.
Speaker 6: Mike.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mike has a personal vendetta. I guess it's just
Speaker 3: like I love a blowjob. On the topic, I think
Speaker 3: some people are like they were like, not for me, whatever?
Speaker 2: Really, And then I didn't even know that was like
Speaker 2: an option that you could stay in the dating field
Speaker 2: and say not for me.
Speaker 3: I've said it to men.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I've said it to like a spid.
Speaker 2: Then I was like, if I wasn't like in a
Speaker 2: serious enough relationship with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can hold it over them until they commit
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Well I just say it's like it's it's so in
Speaker 3: my act that people kind of already know okay, and
Speaker 3: then it always ends up in discussion like I don't
Speaker 3: even care, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and it's so it's a really know, we're just
Speaker 2: sometimes you then you do it.
Speaker 3: So if you have a six pack, I will blow you.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah yeah, but that feels like obvious. But
Speaker 3: I'll blow you for thirty seconds, no more and no less. Okay,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's more like a like a dip, like like a
Speaker 1: dip your toe in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, imagine this is how we could be. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we know, what is it about the six pack?
Speaker 2: Because I've the six pack is nice, but I feel
Speaker 2: like it wears off quickly for me.
Speaker 1: Nice really kind of like an accent.
Speaker 3: It's kind of just a nice fun bonus we get
Speaker 3: here a bow on top of the present.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so fun where you're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a stomach, I don't mind, Like if a guy's
Speaker 2: like chubby around, I don't give it.
Speaker 1: I really don't care. But when they have a six pack,
Speaker 1: you're like, it's like a fun play toy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're like, oh oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's like boobs. I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: just just touch it. Yeah, it is nice to have
Speaker 2: a round. But then sometimes you're like, okay, we got it.
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes you feel it makes you feel disgusting, like
Speaker 3: have you ever dated a guy that's so hot or
Speaker 3: you're having sex with them and you're like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel like about myself.
Speaker 2: My first boyfriend was like he by society standards, was
Speaker 2: like everyone would look at him all the time, and
Speaker 2: it was like that was kind of it was just
Speaker 2: it was like, okay, annoying. It was just like walking
Speaker 2: around with a celebrity, but you're celebrity.
Speaker 4: I would say the most annoying party about that, yeah,
Speaker 4: is the walking around and watching them get all old.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, after at first you're like, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: fucking hot, huh, and then eventually you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's exactly what you said.
Speaker 3: I just don't want them to think that they're hotter
Speaker 3: than me.
Speaker 1: Right, because that's dangerous for me to think that right right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't care if.
Speaker 2: They think they're they're hotter than me.
Speaker 1: I've gived.
Speaker 2: I've just never dated anyone better than me. So it's
Speaker 2: but I should start, Probably shouldn't. Yeah, dating a hot
Speaker 2: guy or like something hotter like that makes me feel.
Speaker 1: Hotter, like a weird little brand. Yeah yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Just makes me feel like like like it's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, who's this bitch? Like it's for a while,
Speaker 2: like I I was only dating people hotter than me,
Speaker 2: and I really liked it because women don't.
Speaker 3: Do though a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we don't do it a lot.
Speaker 2: I think it's very like that's my the way Christina
Speaker 2: feels about low jobs, That's the way I feel about
Speaker 2: dating people hotter than me.
Speaker 3: Okayat I like a man to look extremely violent. I
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah she does too.
Speaker 2: Yeah I get it's like will you kill me the
Speaker 2: next day?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, danger?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you just see me blonde, like yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, is my boyfriend? I'm like, yeah, what
Speaker 1: kind of guy?
Speaker 2: So you like the type of guy do those guys
Speaker 2: like you back? Or like, what kind of guys like you?
Speaker 3: Those guys like me back? Okay, they're really scary ones
Speaker 3: like me back, really, because I think the really scary
Speaker 3: ones date kind of really scary women as well, that
Speaker 3: you know, and they want to break every once in
Speaker 3: a while, and I look like this like virginal little
Speaker 3: Gwyneth Paltrow, and they're interested in that. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you were dating the girl, just I don't
Speaker 2: I have more questions about that. Did you introduce her
Speaker 2: to your family?
Speaker 1: Was it that serious? No, it wasn't that serious.
Speaker 3: Does your family know about it?
Speaker 2: Did you, like, did you have to like make an
Speaker 2: announcement or did you just casually say I'm dating a
Speaker 2: woman now?
Speaker 3: I said they were at a show and I said
Speaker 3: I was by on stage and I talked about eating pussy.
Speaker 1: Oh they heard of it? Did they have? You got
Speaker 1: artist parents? Theyn't give a ship.
Speaker 3: Didn't give a fucking shit. I mean, my little brother
Speaker 3: is gay as all hell, so they yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't care. Yeah, we don't even chat about it.
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, they probably didn't even bring it up. Cool.
Speaker 3: At one point my mom was like, oh, I actually
Speaker 3: forgot about this. One time. I was at a bar
Speaker 3: and it was like maybe a couple months after I
Speaker 3: did that set, and it was me and my mom
Speaker 3: and she's like gorgeous blonde woman just like you know,
Speaker 3: it's just a cunt and the best way you know, Yeah, Painter,
Speaker 3: I went all the way with a woman once.
Speaker 2: I was like, I love when your mom has been
Speaker 2: waiting like fifty five years to tell you a story
Speaker 2: and then that moment comes.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Is your dad hot too? Objectively?
Speaker 3: My dad.
Speaker 1: Is so interesting looking?
Speaker 3: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah he has long blonde I was like the
Speaker 2: locks or something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's visual. There's a lot going on.
Speaker 2: I had a long haired dad too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's a real It really creates a personality.
Speaker 3: He's like he's giving mom and my mom is giving dad.
Speaker 1: Is it weird having a hot mom?
Speaker 2: We oh rocks?
Speaker 1: Oh cool?
Speaker 2: Cool? Well, I think about especially when you get old,
Speaker 2: like when you especially when you get older, because and
Speaker 2: then people just look at your mom as how how
Speaker 2: is how you're going to turn use it as a cage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's happening.
Speaker 3: She's just a bad bitch and she raised me to
Speaker 3: kind of be a bad bitch. Like she is the
Speaker 3: most toxic hot girl energy you know, and it's really nice,
Speaker 3: like she just like rips men apart to their faces.
Speaker 3: She just like she is ruling every room like she
Speaker 3: is like the worst hot girl at the party. It's
Speaker 3: so fun when it's your mom.
Speaker 2: So after after your parents got divorced, did she get
Speaker 2: married again?
Speaker 1: Does she was she dating?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: When when did that happen?
Speaker 3: This is I'm talking about my stepmom who kind of Yes,
Speaker 3: my mom also hot, but she's more hippie dipping no makeup, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, married and like hippie guy.
Speaker 2: So your stepmom kind of raised you so that you
Speaker 2: stayed with your your dad had made the primary custody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's rare. It's very rare, especially in my situation.
Speaker 1: It's almost funny.
Speaker 3: Because he's like not home, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: He's on the road. Yeah, why did that? Why why
Speaker 1: did your dad get custody? And especially when he's.
Speaker 3: Busy because my mom was a little Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're you're not super close with her.
Speaker 2: I mean if my parents had gotten separated, my dad
Speaker 2: should have gotten custody exactly.
Speaker 3: My dad is very like like loves being a dad,
Speaker 3: very nurturing.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so when so when did this? Like so
Speaker 2: when how old were you when he got married to
Speaker 2: your stepmom?
Speaker 3: They were together since I was ten, oh eleven or something. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: interest to my my my formative years.
Speaker 1: I was raised by my stepmom whoa.
Speaker 4: So it's like a great stepmom's success story, it really is.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love hearing.
Speaker 3: And she's like not a kid person at all.
Speaker 1: Wow, it doesn't seem like it.
Speaker 3: There's no parenting. There's not like a lot of parenting
Speaker 3: bones in her body. So she took her own.
Speaker 1: Just being county about being a county hot woman. She's
Speaker 1: kind of nice.
Speaker 2: You you obviously you and your twin are from the
Speaker 2: same but and then your little brother also same.
Speaker 1: And so she had no kids with your father.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: She interesting. She was like, I would have gotten my
Speaker 3: uterus removed if I could.
Speaker 1: That's her energy. That interview.
Speaker 2: Wow, cocky cunty girls.
Speaker 1: Something about them that I just respect so much.
Speaker 3: I remember, like I trust them, Yes, you with your life. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember her being like this is what this is
Speaker 3: how you treat them, You have the power forever. Like
Speaker 3: it's like it's like so toxic. I'm eleven, I'm eleven.
Speaker 3: But she was like she would literally teach me how
Speaker 3: to make fun of a man without them knowing to
Speaker 3: their face.
Speaker 1: A fun skill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. So she's the best.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's beautiful. It's amazing. How did how did you
Speaker 1: uh you meet your dad?
Speaker 3: She was a music promoter in Asbury, Jersey for years.
Speaker 3: She was like the only woman only like female music promoter.
Speaker 1: So she was like stone pony and stuff. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a whole epicic scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. So she kind of ruled that world.
Speaker 1: My dad's queen.
Speaker 2: She's very nice and now like, so your ten whatever
Speaker 2: does how does your dad introduce a new mom?
Speaker 3: He would he did the single dad for a thing,
Speaker 3: the single dad thing for a little bit, and then
Speaker 3: we just met her.
Speaker 2: And he would did he say, like, this is my
Speaker 2: girlfriend someone important to me?
Speaker 1: Like how did he do you even remember? No?
Speaker 3: So what I wasn't traumatizing that. No, my dad wasn't
Speaker 3: like dating around. Really, my dad had fun in the
Speaker 3: eighties and then he retired. Yeah yeah, well my stepmom
Speaker 3: was like right, she kept it on lock. So uh yeah,
Speaker 3: and they've been together ever since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. That's so cool.
Speaker 3: Really kind of calm. I love you would respect when
Speaker 3: you look at my family. You would just wouldn't expect
Speaker 3: that energy, right, and it's actually quite calm.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. That's good. Yeah, no, it's amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 3: So fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flew By, What would you like to promote? Where
Speaker 1: can we find more of you? What do you want
Speaker 1: to push?
Speaker 3: You can follow me on Instagram and even TikTok at
Speaker 3: Gabby as Brian. I have my own podcast called The
Speaker 3: Podcast with comedian Zach Signore. What else do I have?
Speaker 1: I perform?
Speaker 3: I post it on my Instagram all the time. I'm
Speaker 3: constantly doing shows. And that's it.
Speaker 1: Nice. Go see Gabby live, guys, enjoy it. Follow her.
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