Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on June fourteenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: So it's happened again. I can't really say I'm excited
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know what's happening. But Jensen has
Speaker 1: found yet another clip of some sort and is here too.
Speaker 2: We have no idea what this is.
Speaker 1: No no, and it's yeah no And the last one.
Speaker 3: Made you ex husband of this podcast. So what's going
Speaker 3: to happen now? Is my question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Raju boy, that was a worthy one.
Speaker 4: Freshway was worthy. It's just crazy because I'm losing sleep.
Speaker 4: I'm spending twenty four hours a day trying to find
Speaker 4: footage of you guys in compromising situations or shows or
Speaker 4: cork you now regret. But this week I bring you
Speaker 4: something from outside the sphere of Boy meets World that
Speaker 4: somehow found itself back into Boy Meets World.
Speaker 1: What, oh my gosh, what is this?
Speaker 4: Okay? I have to shout out a listener of the podcast.
Speaker 4: Her name is Bree. She's the one who brought this
Speaker 4: to my attention.
Speaker 1: Hi Brie, either hib or how dare you? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Or we're gonna find you, Bree.
Speaker 4: I think you will like this. It's from a twenty
Speaker 4: eighteen podcast. She sent us a clip and the podcast
Speaker 4: is called Home and Podcast and it is a home
Speaker 4: improvement rewatch show by two funny dudes named Adam and Jordan,
Speaker 4: and they got through the whole thing. They clearly predate us,
Speaker 4: so they maybe created the rewatch podcast question Mark, but
Speaker 4: they're great and they had a bunch of the talent
Speaker 4: from the show come on, which is awesome. And one
Speaker 4: of the things they did is a two part interview
Speaker 4: with Patricia richardson the mom on the show. I'm sure
Speaker 4: you had some sort of interactions with her, or at
Speaker 4: least seen her around. You know, she was flying high
Speaker 4: in ninety sitcom world. There was no bigger than Home Improvement,
Speaker 4: which we've learned.
Speaker 1: Betsy Randall was on Home Improvement playing her friend or something.
Speaker 4: That's right, you guys. Richard Caran also showed up on
Speaker 4: your show. It was kind of a nice relationship you had,
Speaker 4: and so the hosts asked her for any behind the
Speaker 4: scenes gossip that she might have, and she was very
Speaker 4: hesitant to bring up any of like the real stuff,
Speaker 4: but she did say that she could give you one.
Speaker 4: And this one made me go because it's some pretty
Speaker 4: good team and it involves our beloved Danielle Fischer.
Speaker 5: Let's hear the I know one thing that I could
Speaker 5: tell that's a kid's story. Apparently I was sort of
Speaker 5: half aware of this. Jonathan, Zach and Tarn were all
Speaker 5: madly in love with the same girl, and she was
Speaker 5: next door on Boy Meets Her.
Speaker 6: Oh her name is Danielle FICIALI yes, yes, And every
Speaker 6: time she would come backstage, they would be all a
Speaker 6: buzz and be going.
Speaker 7: To a close. I have to try my clothes.
Speaker 3: I tore something different.
Speaker 7: Danielle's coming, Danielle's coming. Another boy come in, Dandie's coming.
Speaker 5: I wore something different, She's coming, Daniel's coming, Daniel's coming,
Speaker 5: And they'd be in the makeup room all like, she's
Speaker 5: coming over, She's coming over, fix my hair, fix my hair,
Speaker 5: and all three boys.
Speaker 1: Apparently we're just wid.
Speaker 8: I felt the same way growing up. Oh definitely, yeah,
Speaker 8: I definitely did. Yeah, are you serious? I was so
Speaker 8: absolutely yeah.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 8: She was very important to me as well.
Speaker 4: I would say around that time, So.
Speaker 7: Where where is she now? What is she doing?
Speaker 3: A good question.
Speaker 7: I think she's on she was on Girl Meets World, right,
Speaker 7: I think they're both both.
Speaker 10: Yah, she's married. To someone that does a lot. He's
Speaker 10: like a comedian. He does a lot of podcasts. I
Speaker 10: can't think of his name, but she's she's around. I
Speaker 10: get some shrapnel there. Yeah, that is that. That's news
Speaker 10: to you, right, that all three boys liked you.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Taren had a crush on me.
Speaker 1: I knew that Zach and Jonathan did. I did not
Speaker 1: know that Tarran did. That is news to me.
Speaker 4: I mean to have all three boys on one show.
Speaker 3: Your moves, yeah, till Danielle around. Oh man, there is makeup.
Speaker 7: Close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, JTT won that battle.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean Zachary was cool.
Speaker 3: Zach was cool. Yeah, Zach was cool, and then Jonathan,
Speaker 3: You and Jonathan obviously got along stir well, and and
Speaker 3: Taren was a little terror back in the day. I mean,
Speaker 3: I do you remember what, oh man? So remember we
Speaker 3: would all play in the in the the room next
Speaker 3: to our set had the it was a trailer where
Speaker 3: we had the ping pong paddle off and he took
Speaker 3: all the ping pong paddles home and put nails through them.
Speaker 3: Don't you remember that? And you would walk around and
Speaker 3: like smack the walls and stick the thing with like
Speaker 3: the nails into the thing.
Speaker 4: We were all like, was this the kid from Home
Speaker 4: Improvement or Dummer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a significantly younger, younger younger.
Speaker 2: And he was he was a little he was he
Speaker 2: was a little restaurant. I think he's he's a vegan
Speaker 2: vegan or something or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something, I mean obviously grew out of it. But
Speaker 3: he went through a little terror station.
Speaker 4: You don't think his restaurant just has tons of paddles nails.
Speaker 3: He called the battle.
Speaker 2: Now he's just waiting for Will to come in exactly.
Speaker 3: Well that's my COT this week. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That was very sweet. Thanks guys, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm rather strong,
Speaker 1: and I'm Wilfredell our guest this episode is a television
Speaker 1: icon who most of the world met as Clarissa Darling
Speaker 1: in sixty five episodes of Clarissa Explains It All, a
Speaker 1: fourth wall breaking Nickelodeon classic that dominated kids TV for
Speaker 1: five seasons, and that would be enough for most actresses
Speaker 1: of the nineties, but not here. She then outdid herself
Speaker 1: as Sabrina Sawyer, also known as Sabrina the Teenage Witch
Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty three episodes, the highest rated
Speaker 1: sitcom in the TGIF block during its four year run
Speaker 1: on ABC. Wait in four years A four years?
Speaker 3: How can you see that many episodes?
Speaker 11: Tien?
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know, but they were also so
Speaker 1: highly rated. Maybe that's why they just kept churning them out.
Speaker 1: We were basically just her opening act. It would eventually
Speaker 1: move to the WB only because it became too expensive
Speaker 1: to keep near shows like ours, which also led to
Speaker 1: an animated spin off and a PlayStation game. She even
Speaker 1: slummed it with Us, appearing on a Boy Meets World
Speaker 1: episode as Sabrina for season five in hopes she could
Speaker 1: bring a little of her ratings magic to our little
Speaker 1: show that was always on the bubble. You may know
Speaker 1: her from movies like Drive Me Crazy, or the long
Speaker 1: running Melissa and Joey or Cover Your Ears, Will tons
Speaker 1: of recent fan favorite Christmas movies. She is the greatest
Speaker 1: actress to ever share a screen with a talking cat.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to Pod Meets World, Melissa Joan Hart. Hi, guys, Hi.
Speaker 1: We start all of our interviews kind of the same way.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you how old were you
Speaker 1: and when did you get into acting.
Speaker 7: I was four, okay, and.
Speaker 9: I wanted to be in a I wanted to be
Speaker 9: on the show Romper Room back. Yes, because what I
Speaker 9: did was I did some math and I realized, like, well,
Speaker 9: maybe not math, but little research. And by watching the show,
Speaker 9: I realized that what was her name, Mss Maryanne would
Speaker 9: never say Melissa in the Magic Mirror wasn't a very
Speaker 9: popular name at the time. And I figured out that
Speaker 9: what she was doing was she was saying the names
Speaker 9: of the kids sitting in front of her, like it
Speaker 9: was like a nursery school read along or something.
Speaker 7: I don't remember what it was really, but like all
Speaker 7: the kids that were there, I'm like, she's saying their names.
Speaker 9: If I'm there, she'll say my name, So my mom,
Speaker 9: I had to be on TV and that's how it started.
Speaker 3: Did you end up going on er Room?
Speaker 9: I never did, but I just found out my best
Speaker 9: friend Kelly Martin did, and I'm like, I'm so now
Speaker 9: friendship over yep.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Like my dream?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you are one of eight kids. Were you always
Speaker 1: the most dramatic do any of your siblings?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 7: Definitely not the most dramatic.
Speaker 9: Just the craziest, crazy enough to get into the business.
Speaker 9: They all of them kind of followed my footsteps at
Speaker 9: some point or another, mainly because of convenience.
Speaker 7: My mom driving me.
Speaker 9: I lived in Long Island, New York, and then driving
Speaker 9: to Manhattan every day was it was almost like two
Speaker 9: hours there, two hours back. So in order for her
Speaker 9: to take me, she kind of had take everybody. So
Speaker 9: I have a little sister who's two years younger than me.
Speaker 9: We kind of looked the same growing up, and we
Speaker 9: would compete on everything together.
Speaker 7: But I was more of a ham and she was
Speaker 7: a little bit like little I don't like this.
Speaker 9: You know. So I would get everything, but she would
Speaker 9: be dragged along to the auditions. So and then my
Speaker 9: other sister was a singer, and so she did some
Speaker 9: Broadway and like with like Lacy Shabt and some of
Speaker 9: her other friends that did Broadway stuff. And yeah, and
Speaker 9: then my brother was actually on Saturday Night Live. He
Speaker 9: got to say Live from New York at Saturday Night,
Speaker 9: but he had his mouthful popcorn at the time. He
Speaker 9: played one of George Bush Senior's grandkids, so technically he played.
Speaker 7: Jeb I think he played.
Speaker 9: So he got to say my favorite line ever, and
Speaker 9: he had a mouthful popcorn and ruined it. And then
Speaker 9: my little sister Emily was actually she had quite a career,
Speaker 9: but she hated it so she quit. She was cousin
Speaker 9: Amanda on Sabrina. She did the voice of Sabrina for
Speaker 9: the animated series, and then I think she was like
Speaker 9: pretty high up there in the people for Lizzie Maguire
Speaker 9: and like all these shows.
Speaker 7: He was like, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 11: And yeah, my.
Speaker 9: Sister Ali was in the TV show Deadwood. Actually she
Speaker 9: was in No Sammy. My sister Sammy was in the
Speaker 9: pilot for Deadwood.
Speaker 2: And then everybody's working this is awesome.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 9: I think one of my sisters, her her ultrasound was.
Speaker 7: On a soap opera.
Speaker 9: And then when the woman in the soap opera had
Speaker 9: to have a baby, they were like, they went to
Speaker 9: my mom, Hey, when you have the baby, can we
Speaker 9: have her for a few days.
Speaker 7: And she was like sure, I'll.
Speaker 3: Bring them all.
Speaker 1: She's a few weeks old.
Speaker 7: And they like bring her to set.
Speaker 1: And you guys have a dynasty, well.
Speaker 7: I mean sort of.
Speaker 9: They all sort of were like they all have their
Speaker 9: own thing going on. One's a chef in Paris. One's
Speaker 9: an art curator in Paris. One's uh a stay at
Speaker 9: home mom in San Diego. One my brother's an electrician
Speaker 9: among island.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, it's like, well, talking to your mom.
Speaker 3: Your mom is like, I am always somewhere in the
Speaker 3: world with one of my kids, driving somewhere, flying somewhere.
Speaker 3: She's like, that's all I do all the time.
Speaker 9: She calls herself a Boomerang grandparent. So she has apartments
Speaker 9: all over the place, and then and then and then
Speaker 9: a sprinter van and her and her husband like wrap
Speaker 9: my stepdad. They like, they'll drive to Nashville see me.
Speaker 9: They'll go to New York. They head back to San Diego,
Speaker 9: they fly to Paris for a few days, they come
Speaker 9: back through New York. They you know, cool, and they
Speaker 9: had ten grandkids and seven kids.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what a great life.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know right, they're kind of if you follow
Speaker 9: them on Instagram, I mean I feel like they should
Speaker 9: have like, you know, the bucket list family, Like they
Speaker 9: should be like the Boomerang grandparents, like they were cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a great idea.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get on that actually right after we.
Speaker 1: Yeah, write that down how did Clarissa come? Do you
Speaker 1: do you remember the audition?
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah.
Speaker 9: I was actually auditioning for Blossom simultaneously as.
Speaker 7: The role of six. Oh my gosh, I was auditioning.
Speaker 9: Blossom and Clarissa, and I think I got to like
Speaker 9: three auditions on both.
Speaker 7: I remember laying in bed at night, a little girl,
Speaker 7: dear Lord, please let me just get the job that's
Speaker 7: meant for me. And right and Clarissa was the way
Speaker 7: it went, and and I loved I loved that character
Speaker 7: so much.
Speaker 9: It was just a lot of work, know, working at
Speaker 9: that age, high school SATs, college applications, all that stuff
Speaker 9: that kind of gets fed on top of I mean,
Speaker 9: thank God for Will.
Speaker 7: It was like my heart thrub and all my books
Speaker 7: at I heart Will.
Speaker 1: When I was like, oh, we did it like a
Speaker 1: teeny bopper romance.
Speaker 2: We do?
Speaker 3: Did I don't even remember. I remember just coming up
Speaker 3: on Nickelodeon and we were both nick kids, and we'd
Speaker 3: be at those events. And then we were in Florida.
Speaker 3: You were at.
Speaker 7: The studio when I was filming. You must have got
Speaker 7: something there.
Speaker 3: I was shooting something there. I think it was a
Speaker 3: new pilot after don't you sit there ended. I think
Speaker 3: we were doing out of time or something like. I
Speaker 3: don't remember what it was. But then I was with
Speaker 3: you for like your fourteenth birthday or you remember. We
Speaker 3: went to someplace where we were it was those big
Speaker 3: tanks you could drive where you shoot the tennis balls
Speaker 3: at the other. Oh, yeah, that was us there.
Speaker 7: Okay, the only time I ever had fun in Orlando.
Speaker 7: I never really got to do anything. I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we went out for that and we
Speaker 3: were like making google eyes at each other and by
Speaker 3: the end of the night we were dating and like.
Speaker 9: All that kind of and we called each other a
Speaker 9: few times on a landline or yeah.
Speaker 3: That kind of number. I'm sure I did. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was a whirlwind romance. I
Speaker 3: don't think we even kiss.
Speaker 1: Do you even kiss?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think we might have.
Speaker 3: We might have.
Speaker 1: I don't even rememorable.
Speaker 7: Well, I know that I found a notebook and I
Speaker 7: was like, and it was just I heeart will I
Speaker 7: heart well.
Speaker 1: Like all oh, like who's will?
Speaker 7: And then something came to me. I was like, oh
Speaker 7: my god, I know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was the thing I remember is then
Speaker 3: we so we every year, we would have the ABC
Speaker 3: parties and when uh you know, when Sabrina started, there
Speaker 3: was a tap on my shoulder and turn around at
Speaker 3: one of the parties and it's you and you're like,
Speaker 3: do you remember me? I'm like, are you kidding? Like,
Speaker 3: of course I remember you. And we ended up talking
Speaker 3: that whole night too. So yeah, that was that was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's known you a long time, known you a long time.
Speaker 3: Were you called Nickelodeon and funds a parade together?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, we hosted that. That opening of of of I
Speaker 3: was like the three hour live opening of Disney something
Speaker 3: we did together. No, that was in Orlando, Orlando.
Speaker 2: We went down to Disney fifth anniversary for Disney something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 9: I think Ben and I hosted one of their Christmas parades.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated hosting parades. Ben and I did a
Speaker 2: Toy Story parade and the worst experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that.
Speaker 9: J and I like petitioned Disney when we got an
Speaker 9: ABC family, were like, we want to host a Disney
Speaker 9: parade and.
Speaker 1: They were like, no, no, no, we don't want you
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 7: I want younger people.
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, when did you know Clarissa
Speaker 1: was a success, Like, do you remember the moment where
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, wow, we're a hint.
Speaker 9: I had a weird relationship with that whole thing because
Speaker 9: before that I had done theater and like, you know,
Speaker 9: just kind of showed up in commercials and soap operas
Speaker 9: and movies and stuff.
Speaker 7: I had done a show called The Equalizer.
Speaker 9: I got a lot of attention from older people on
Speaker 9: that one, but with Clarissa, because it was Cable and
Speaker 9: not a lot of people like cable at the time.
Speaker 9: I I felt like, and in New York City, especially,
Speaker 9: people weren't really watching nick you know, run a lot
Speaker 9: of adults in New York City.
Speaker 7: I wasn't really around kids my own age. I didn't get.
Speaker 9: Recognized for a long time, I feel like, and then
Speaker 9: when I was, it was so bizarre. I remember being
Speaker 9: like apologetic the fact that they watched Nickelodeon.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh you what, Niphony, Like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 7: you know. I think at that point I was too
Speaker 7: cool for Nickelodeon. It was like for the kids.
Speaker 9: I was like fifteen, and I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 9: I'm sorry about that, but it just felt weird. I
Speaker 9: didn't know what to say. They're like, oh, I love
Speaker 9: you on that show. I'm like, really, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 9: think that's probably my first like real fan encounter. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but but I you know, I appreciated her.
Speaker 7: I knew how smart she was.
Speaker 9: And then of course, years later when the writers go
Speaker 9: off to do like one of the writers went off
Speaker 9: to do the Office and one went off to friends,
Speaker 9: and you know, in these like you realize how brilliant
Speaker 9: these people were around you, and how smart that show was,
Speaker 9: and how wild the costumes were, and how loved she was.
Speaker 9: You know, it took on a different tone from me.
Speaker 9: But it was just work. It was just another job
Speaker 9: really at first, and I was making good money. I
Speaker 9: knew was going to be able to go to college,
Speaker 9: you know stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your mom was your agent, right.
Speaker 9: She was like my manager, and then she segued into
Speaker 9: producer right when Clarissa ended. Okay, so that's what got
Speaker 9: us to Sabrina.
Speaker 3: Got it. So she has wild stories about Sabrina. She
Speaker 3: has wild stories about selling Sabrina.
Speaker 1: Lisa goes on for five seasons, and we talk a
Speaker 1: lot on this podcast for technically it was four. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: it was like the pilot was considered a side on.
Speaker 11: That it was like a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so technically four seasons. And did you ever, like
Speaker 1: all three of us, at different times, have experienced whatever,
Speaker 1: some version of burnout, whether it be because of mental illness.
Speaker 1: For Will with you know, anxiety writer and I both
Speaker 1: when boy Mee's world ended, we're like, we really need
Speaker 1: to stay, like we just want to go to normal
Speaker 1: life and go to school or whatever. Did you experience
Speaker 1: any sort of burnout after Clarissa before you started Sabrina.
Speaker 7: I can't say that.
Speaker 9: I experienced it as burnout. I'm sure it was of
Speaker 9: some level, but it was more like, I mean, my
Speaker 9: whole life, I've been told about the child star disasters, right,
Speaker 9: the people that didn't make it through, the people that
Speaker 9: got addicted, the people that you know, that kind of thing,
Speaker 9: like the kind of the.
Speaker 1: The horror stories.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like careful, like the I forget the I can't
Speaker 9: think of the word right now, but you know, like
Speaker 9: the warnings about what can happen as to a child
Speaker 9: star then, and so I feel like I was very
Speaker 9: cautious of that, but I also kind of had always
Speaker 9: heard and especially being in like the theater world.
Speaker 7: I think maybe I always.
Speaker 9: Saw that it was it was a tough business, and
Speaker 9: you know that it's not something you can really rely on.
Speaker 9: So I was always trying to find a backup. Like
Speaker 9: I was very good in school. I wasn't smart, but
Speaker 9: I was like a good student, and I took that
Speaker 9: very seriously. And then when I couldn't go to college
Speaker 9: because of Sabrina, I got really upset, Like, actually it
Speaker 9: wasn't Sabrina. I got offered a movie right after Clarisa ended.
Speaker 9: I got offered a TV movie with your friend Jason Marsden,
Speaker 9: this movie.
Speaker 7: Called Oh My God. He was a character.
Speaker 9: We did a movie where I played his love interest.
Speaker 9: And it was the first time I didn't have to
Speaker 9: be like doing all the work, Like I was like
Speaker 9: sort of like the girl that just kind of pops
Speaker 9: in and his love interest, but he's with his family
Speaker 9: the whole time.
Speaker 7: What was it called family reunion? A relative nightmare is what.
Speaker 3: It was called.
Speaker 9: Okay, And so he was the star, and he was like,
Speaker 9: and I was the kind of the girl that he
Speaker 9: meets on vacation.
Speaker 7: So it was fun to kind of like be the
Speaker 7: heart throb, the girl inside a little bit of bad Girl.
Speaker 9: But before I got that part, it meant I was
Speaker 9: gonna have to sit out my first semester of college.
Speaker 9: And I took college very seriously. I was like, if
Speaker 9: I don't go to college, that'll be it for me,
Speaker 9: Like I'll be one of I'll be one of the
Speaker 9: you know, the stories of people that kind of went
Speaker 9: down the wrong road or something. But I really waited,
Speaker 9: and I was like, all right, if I take one
Speaker 9: semester off, I'll go the next semester. So I did
Speaker 9: sort of. And it's because of my mom too. She
Speaker 9: was very careful after Clarissa. She was like, you built
Speaker 9: a fan base. She kind of understood branding before it
Speaker 9: was called. He was like, you built a fan base.
Speaker 9: I don't want you going and playing Lolita or this
Speaker 9: or that, because that's gonna those people that have watched
Speaker 9: you and loved you are not going to follow you
Speaker 9: to that. So she kind of kept me in her
Speaker 9: management skills, kept me in that lane of like where
Speaker 9: do you belong in the scope of things now?
Speaker 7: And that's how Sabrina came about. It came about pretty quickly.
Speaker 9: It happened like I did that movie with Jason that fall,
Speaker 9: like wrapped in the spring on Clarissa, or actually it
Speaker 9: was the year before. So I finished high school and
Speaker 9: I went took a summer abroad. I went to Paris
Speaker 9: on a bike.
Speaker 7: Had I think my boyfriend, my long term.
Speaker 9: Boyfriend, had broken up with me and or cheated on me,
Speaker 9: and so I was devastated. And I went to Paris
Speaker 9: and like got over that heartbreak. And then I came
Speaker 9: back and like I did this movie, went to college
Speaker 9: and then immediately went to Sabrina. So every semester it
Speaker 9: was like boom, boom boom. So I fought to get
Speaker 9: my college degree. I planned someday to be the eighty
Speaker 9: year old who throws her cap in the air at NYU,
Speaker 9: and but I went for seven years, never quite got
Speaker 9: even halfway.
Speaker 1: In my credits, that's okay, you you were, you were,
Speaker 1: you were a little busy. So the Sabrina started as
Speaker 1: like a Showtime movie, right, and then ABC turned it
Speaker 1: into a show.
Speaker 9: So that's what happened. So I went to college in January.
Speaker 9: I think by March I had to leave to shoot Sabrina.
Speaker 9: But I was able to kind of fit it in
Speaker 9: with my schedule with spring break or something. So I
Speaker 9: stayed in college, but I went to Vancouver and shot
Speaker 9: this movie, came back and by that fall we had
Speaker 9: a series because my mom had My mom had used
Speaker 9: our Clarissa contacts at Viacom, which owned Showtime, and she said, Hey,
Speaker 9: this would be a great Showtime movie. And as we're
Speaker 9: making the movie, she kept telling Viacom executives this would
Speaker 9: be a fantastic series and they're like, yeah, but we'll see,
Speaker 9: we'll see, we'll see. So when she was in the
Speaker 9: editing bay with the movie, she cut together a trailer.
Speaker 9: So then she took that trailer play and showed six
Speaker 9: different networks and in the three offers amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not just that, isn't didn't she all?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 3: So growing up? You know, when I was growing up,
Speaker 3: I loved Archie comics. I was just a huge fan
Speaker 3: of Archie comics. And Sabrina was one of the kind
Speaker 3: of the inserts of the Archie comic and then became
Speaker 3: a spin off of the of the Archie world. Didn't
Speaker 3: she walk into kind of the Archie people and say
Speaker 3: I want the rights to Sabrina and they said, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: well this is never going to do anything. So didn't
Speaker 3: she get them for a dollar.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they kind of have an exchange.
Speaker 9: So she was like, I'll give you a dollar, you
Speaker 9: give me the rights for six months, I'll see what
Speaker 9: I can do with it, and boom she had a
Speaker 9: movie and boom she had a series.
Speaker 1: And yeah, wow, savvy mother.
Speaker 3: Yeah she's awesome. Yeah she's awesome. It's great.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she's she's Yeah, she's a go getter. I mean
Speaker 9: she's a scrappy New Yorker. You know, it's seven kids,
Speaker 9: so she's.
Speaker 11: A dollar a dollar.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So she's someone on the playground of my siblings school,
Speaker 9: like in New York City, like a public school in
Speaker 9: New York. Someone there was like had the Archie comic
Speaker 9: and said, hey, this would be a great project for Melissa,
Speaker 9: and she like opened it up and looked at it
Speaker 9: and she was like, yeah, would And so then she
Speaker 9: figured out how to get in touch with the Archies.
Speaker 9: She talked about a calm and they put it with
Speaker 9: showtime and boom we had a movie.
Speaker 1: Incredible, that's so cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I mean it doesn't happen like that anymore.
Speaker 3: No, that is not the business anymore, not at all.
Speaker 1: I mean the role of Sabrina was like then seen
Speaker 1: by an entire generation. Was working on an ABC show
Speaker 1: a lot different than your experience at Nickelodeon.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well, there were so many differences.
Speaker 9: It was hard for me to see sort of the
Speaker 9: network difference because I was seeing the difference between six
Speaker 9: days a week, seventy hours with school and whatnot, and
Speaker 9: then all of a sudden, having a cast of characters
Speaker 9: to play against instead of monologues.
Speaker 7: And driving mostly dialogue now, all of a sudden.
Speaker 9: Instead of memorizing my monologues all week long because Clarissa
Speaker 9: was heavy on monologues and it was all to one camera,
Speaker 9: so it had to be exact.
Speaker 7: I couldn't. There was no editing it. I had to
Speaker 7: get four pages out at least every week. So then
Speaker 7: there was the.
Speaker 9: U with Sabrina. It was like, there's this cast of characters.
Speaker 9: I'm older, I can go out and party.
Speaker 7: I bought my own house.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: It was like being like a grown up, but also
Speaker 9: having like an easier job, and you know, the budget.
Speaker 9: I wasn't really aware of the fact that the budget
Speaker 9: was big until I started going to parties and stuff
Speaker 9: and they would buy my clothes for red carpet events.
Speaker 9: And like it was this budget given to me for
Speaker 9: just shopping, just for when I'm not on camera, and
Speaker 9: I was like.
Speaker 7: That's wild, Okay. I never really trusted it.
Speaker 9: There was this I don't even want to tell you
Speaker 9: how much it was a ridiculous amount of money to
Speaker 9: spend every season just on red carpet events.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 9: Sometimes I'd have the costumer like build me a costume
Speaker 9: for my own party, Like I had a masquerade ball
Speaker 9: and she built me like a Renaissance stress, like from scratch.
Speaker 9: So deciding like what fabrics I liked and whatnot, she
Speaker 9: would build it for me. And that was part of
Speaker 9: the but I never They were like, you still have
Speaker 9: money in your budget. You want to go to Jimmy
Speaker 9: Chu and just buy some shoes. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 9: but is it really coming out of like what is
Speaker 9: it like coming out of my salary.
Speaker 7: Or something like that.
Speaker 1: I can't understand how this works.
Speaker 7: And they were like, no, if you don't use it, it
Speaker 7: goes back to them.
Speaker 9: I'm like, but are you sure, like just like taking
Speaker 9: a credit card and going, yeah, give me five thousand
Speaker 9: dollars and wow.
Speaker 5: We had none of that negotiating as a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: at the end of the season, if you were like,
Speaker 5: could I take this T shirt?
Speaker 1: They were like, well, which T shirt are you going
Speaker 1: to give us an exchange?
Speaker 3: And we'd have to trade our clothes.
Speaker 1: And we literally have to bring a T shirt from
Speaker 1: our closet. Yes, are you serious? Serious?
Speaker 3: I got called Paula, you need my mom, dude. I
Speaker 3: got called after the show ended, like two weeks later,
Speaker 3: and they were asking about a single pair of socks.
Speaker 3: What that's not a do you have these socks? Where
Speaker 3: are the socks that you're down? One black pair of socks?
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: While we were a fellow T G I F show,
Speaker 1: we were more of the O town to your Backstreet
Speaker 1: boys exactly.
Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you.
Speaker 9: We started out as the I don't even ot junior.
Speaker 9: We were like we were brought in as like I
Speaker 9: remember like the side of here.
Speaker 7: Wait, I'll show you up in my up here.
Speaker 9: I have the side of the bus that was that
Speaker 9: advertised the but and so then I can see that
Speaker 9: I'm on my back drop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 9: But the Sabrina bus the other side was clueless. But
Speaker 9: most of the that was one of the few when
Speaker 9: it was like split evenly. Most of the time it
Speaker 9: was like clueless or like in People magazine clueless and
Speaker 9: at bottom the bottom, like the bottom eighth of the
Speaker 9: page would say and then stick around for Sabrina and
Speaker 9: we were like the little you know train.
Speaker 2: A hit movie.
Speaker 7: So it was like, this is going to be.
Speaker 9: Huge, and then somehow it flip flopped where Sabrina got
Speaker 9: the attention. People loved it, so the advertisers, the guest stars,
Speaker 9: you know, the music people started coming.
Speaker 3: So it was yeah, we were not even on the page.
Speaker 3: You might have had the bottom of the page. We were.
Speaker 3: They were like, please, don't even be buy our magazine.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like it was like that.
Speaker 7: It was the hour. It was like the eight to
Speaker 7: eight pm hour or whatever. With that block.
Speaker 2: We stured out and.
Speaker 3: Then we went to nine or nine thirty nine.
Speaker 7: You guys did go to the later, Yes, I think
Speaker 7: we were.
Speaker 2: We went to nine thirty.
Speaker 3: We made fun of it, don't you remember me for
Speaker 3: the little kid who comes in going they're trying to
Speaker 3: kill it, They're trying to kill the show. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: that one of the actors, a little boy, is making
Speaker 3: fun of the fact that that boy Mets World is
Speaker 3: constantly being moved. So when Corey asks him, Corey's like,
Speaker 3: baby sitting a kid, these babies and a kid. He's like,
Speaker 3: you can't be watching the show. It's too late. He's like, well,
Speaker 3: it used to be on an eight thirty, now it's
Speaker 3: on at nine thirty, and couruses, well, whin and he
Speaker 3: goes cause they're trying to kill it. They're trying to
Speaker 3: kill the show.
Speaker 4: Kendall joke.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's a David Kendl.
Speaker 3: It might have been a.
Speaker 4: Joke.
Speaker 3: It does. Yes, yes, I know.
Speaker 1: And you know Kendall from Melissa and Joey.
Speaker 9: He was our showrunner from Melissa and Joey along with
Speaker 9: Bob Young and but David and I just had such
Speaker 9: a bond and we both so we would shoot Melissa
Speaker 9: and Joey on Thursday nights. This is what I love
Speaker 9: about Kendall. On Thursday nights, we'd shoot our show. And
Speaker 9: I think Melissa Joey is the only time I've ever
Speaker 9: really grieved. Well, first of all, it's the only time
Speaker 9: I've ever known a show was definitely ending.
Speaker 7: Every time we left to see someone weren't sure if
Speaker 7: it was ending, So.
Speaker 9: It was the only time I really knew it was ending,
Speaker 9: and I knew I was never gonna play that character again.
Speaker 7: And I loved playing mel On that show. She was
Speaker 7: such a hot mess and it was so much fun.
Speaker 9: And while my family was in Connecticut and I was
Speaker 9: shooting in La it was difficult for me. I was
Speaker 9: very torn between like working and being a mom, and
Speaker 9: so that was really really tough on me. Like that
Speaker 9: created a lot of depression in me, and I went
Speaker 9: through a lot of stuff with that. But ultimately, when
Speaker 9: the show went to end, I grieved that character so badly,
Speaker 9: and I think I cried to David so many times,
Speaker 9: and I was like, no, you don't understand.
Speaker 7: When I go home and I make a school lunch,
Speaker 7: nobody thanks me.
Speaker 9: Like you can tell me how pretty I look at
Speaker 9: my dress and how funny I am, and you're kind
Speaker 9: like making me feel good.
Speaker 7: And when I go home, they're like, Mom, you suck.
Speaker 1: Mom, You're not you know, I don't care.
Speaker 9: You know, I play them a great birthday party, but
Speaker 9: the cake doesn't look right, or I do you know,
Speaker 9: I their school event but I didn't.
Speaker 7: Show up on time, or like, you know, nobody thanks me.
Speaker 9: Nobody says, So every once in a while, Thursday nights,
Speaker 9: he'll text me and go, you're pretty and you're funny.
Speaker 1: Sweet.
Speaker 3: One of the things I loved about Melissa Joey, where
Speaker 3: I just thought it was so strange, was I don't
Speaker 3: know if you remember this, but back in the day
Speaker 3: he used to hate being called mel You were not
Speaker 3: a fan of being called mel and I was one
Speaker 3: of the few people you allowed it. You're like, no,
Speaker 3: you like you softened it a bit, so it's okay,
Speaker 3: but you're like, I can't. And so when that show
Speaker 3: came out and everyone was calling you mel, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I wonder how she feels about that. So I remember
Speaker 3: that You're like, I don't like when people call me Melton.
Speaker 7: I must have really flipped up.
Speaker 9: I mean, there was a time in my life I
Speaker 9: remember asking to be called missy and what's his name?
Speaker 7: Who was on uh say by the bell the principal.
Speaker 1: Mister Belding.
Speaker 9: Yes, but he would call me missy because we worked
Speaker 9: on a movie together in Mississippi when I was ten,
Speaker 9: and he would call me missy.
Speaker 7: And that's at the time when I wanted to be
Speaker 7: called missy.
Speaker 9: But him and like one other person would have called
Speaker 9: me missy after that, and I'm because I was like
Speaker 9: hardcore missy for a year.
Speaker 7: And then I did not want to be called missy anymore.
Speaker 7: Now I hate missy, But I don't know when I
Speaker 7: the melting.
Speaker 3: That's interested you flip fluff the mel.
Speaker 7: My dad would never call.
Speaker 9: All of a sudden, my dad calls me mel for
Speaker 9: the last like ten years, and he never called me
Speaker 9: that before, and I found out, like a lot of
Speaker 9: guys want to call me mel but I always thought
Speaker 9: it was like kind of a masculine sounding thing, but
Speaker 9: now I'm kind of like into it, So yeah, I
Speaker 9: think like it became like a fun nickname because Melissa
Speaker 9: is so freaking long, right, it's like a lot.
Speaker 3: I remember that, you bet you said that to me specifically.
Speaker 3: You're like, you can call me that, but that's it.
Speaker 7: It's like remember that.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Well, you joined us for a crossover episode. Do you
Speaker 1: remember being on our set? What do you have? What
Speaker 1: do you remember about that last night?
Speaker 9: And do you know that I don't remember anything about
Speaker 9: it because I was like, where am I in this episode?
Speaker 7: Why is it Candae Cameron? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: I know it's a it's a bit of an I
Speaker 1: remember thinking it's the episode.
Speaker 2: I don't remember it.
Speaker 3: It's a Halloween episode where you're tied to the thing
Speaker 3: which yeah, yeah, which is which is Spember. I remember
Speaker 3: the time, wh yeah, which is a Pember? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 9: And so I saw that and I was like, because
Speaker 9: my husband was like, I think this is the episode,
Speaker 9: So we started watching it. I wanted to watch it
Speaker 9: with my ten year old last night, who loved it.
Speaker 9: But of course he was like, are you sure you're
Speaker 9: in this episode? Like I thought I was, But maybe
Speaker 9: it's just because it says witches that this is the one.
Speaker 9: I think I'm in because I don't remember what I
Speaker 9: did on it.
Speaker 7: But then when I watched it back, it was just
Speaker 7: Will and I in.
Speaker 3: The yeah tag, so just us on the balcony.
Speaker 7: It must have been I mean we must have shot
Speaker 7: it in half an hour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he ran in and and balcony is
Speaker 3: what is the set? Our balcony it's when you and
Speaker 3: it's when when Corey are Sean and Jack and Eric
Speaker 3: live together for that four episodes or whatever it was,
Speaker 3: and we have a balcony on our apartment set, which
Speaker 3: is supposed to be where the witches perform this kind
Speaker 3: of ceremony.
Speaker 9: Came in and next door and they just want to
Speaker 9: use your balcony. So she pretends to fall in love
Speaker 9: with Maddie and then like yep, to go on the balcony,
Speaker 9: and then she starts a seance on the balcony. But
Speaker 9: then at the very end, it's just and it's so
Speaker 9: funny now because like I can't tell you how many
Speaker 9: people in like Bible study and whatnot will say to
Speaker 9: me like I wasn't allowed to watch your show because
Speaker 9: it was about witchcraft. But then you think about Candace,
Speaker 9: who is such a devout Christian and she's known for
Speaker 9: that now, and.
Speaker 7: She was playing like the Satanic quitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really satanic.
Speaker 9: In that yeah, And I never, as Sabrina, I think,
Speaker 9: ever played Satanic.
Speaker 7: So it's hilarious to me.
Speaker 9: But but then you know, I pop in and we
Speaker 9: just make like a little rib about which because you
Speaker 9: say something about like, well, you're not a witch, are you, And.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, right, yeah, yeah, because I'm.
Speaker 7: Actually Sabrina in the episode.
Speaker 1: Right, Sabrina in the episode yeah, And the.
Speaker 3: Audience cheers, I think when you turn it because it's
Speaker 3: like we're hugging or something. It's supposed to look like
Speaker 3: we're kissing.
Speaker 7: But we did very awkward will We did not did.
Speaker 3: We did not do a good job at all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's super up.
Speaker 9: You become like in your chest and then I'm like
Speaker 9: I'm here.
Speaker 3: Like yay. It was weird.
Speaker 5: We did.
Speaker 2: We did a crossover episode with you where we I
Speaker 2: guess you weren't in it though, because didn't we time
Speaker 2: travel through the.
Speaker 3: Nineteen that's film of the Cat and the World War two.
Speaker 2: Or the nineteen fifties one the World War.
Speaker 1: Two a world War.
Speaker 9: I wasn't on them because I went on teen Witch,
Speaker 9: which was on tg IF at the time, and I
Speaker 9: went on what's the other what other show?
Speaker 1: Was Your Your Angel? Teen Angel?
Speaker 7: Whoa you Wish?
Speaker 1: You Wish?
Speaker 7: And teen Angel teen Angel and You Yes you Wish Yes.
Speaker 7: I just saw those in my IMDb lists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just trying to get you on every
Speaker 3: They're like, just put her on every show and see
Speaker 3: if you can bring the radio.
Speaker 2: But those shows were basically created in response to Sabraina
Speaker 2: doing so well. They were like, exactly, if we have
Speaker 2: somebody with magical powers, we have.
Speaker 9: A show and you can tie it and you can
Speaker 9: do all that, and that was like old.
Speaker 7: Like nineteen seventy stuff.
Speaker 9: I feel like Gary Marshall's shows that we did that right,
Speaker 9: wasn't Robin Williams like ye work.
Speaker 3: On He came on as Mork and then they Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did Happy Days as work and then went over Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did all the everyone there was all spin offs
Speaker 3: of all the Gary Marshalls.
Speaker 9: I think they were trying to do that with tgif
Speaker 9: like the through line of like through line through all
Speaker 9: four shows something. But I it's weird that I was
Speaker 9: only because that's what I thought I did. Was I
Speaker 9: thought I came on your show for the for that,
Speaker 9: but because I don't know any of the other parts
Speaker 9: of it. But then I mean the other shows I
Speaker 9: was on, But I guess it was just the cat
Speaker 9: with you guys a cat.
Speaker 7: Maybe I couldn't shoot them all in the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. They really were spreading you very thin because
Speaker 1: you were the popular one. So you were like guys
Speaker 1: was yeah you wish.
Speaker 3: And teen Angel both Michael Jacob shows.
Speaker 2: You Wish was right, teen Agel was not.
Speaker 3: Yeah you Teen Angel wasn't okay, Okay, I knew, Okay,
Speaker 3: I didn't know if they were all.
Speaker 7: I think because of Sabrina.
Speaker 9: They were probably trying to go out there with all
Speaker 9: the sort of magical escapism.
Speaker 2: And teen angel he chokes on or dies because of
Speaker 2: a bad Hamburger and that's who he becomes an angel.
Speaker 2: So the kid's actually dead. Yeah, it's like a kid
Speaker 2: dies and then comes back to haunt his best friend.
Speaker 3: So then they're like, yeah, yeah, wow, let's start with a.
Speaker 2: Teen dying contecuts as an angel you'd be protecting.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I visited the Sabrinas at once when and Sink made
Speaker 1: their guest.
Speaker 7: Apart, of course, I have some stories to tell about.
Speaker 1: Tell those stories.
Speaker 9: You and I were on a Limma on our way
Speaker 9: back from San Diego, you and I, yes, okay, Pantera
Speaker 9: Sara of course, Okay. You were leaving a concert down there,
Speaker 9: and I remember you telling me like, why won't he
Speaker 9: why won't Lance.
Speaker 7: Make out?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, there's nothing happening, do you understand?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 9: And I was like, girl, I don't think I really
Speaker 9: knew either, but it was like I was trying to, like.
Speaker 1: You know that there was something not quite normal about
Speaker 1: a teen boy and a teen girl in that situation
Speaker 1: you were well, I was.
Speaker 9: Like, yeah, I just think maybe you need to give
Speaker 9: it time or just chill. It'll be okay, Like thanks
Speaker 9: for comforting me, don't focus on the wrong things.
Speaker 7: And then years later to go.
Speaker 3: We All. I think had a version of that conversation
Speaker 3: with Danielle at one point where it's like, hey, can
Speaker 3: I ask you a question?
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm like, you, I have the worst gatar
Speaker 7: in the world.
Speaker 9: Like I've always had crushes on on gay men and
Speaker 9: never really never put it together same.
Speaker 1: I'm looking back over the course of my life that
Speaker 1: my first crush in elementary school, my mom was like, oh, sweetie,
Speaker 1: yeah misson Universal of Florida.
Speaker 9: When I was doing Clarissa and no one would tell
Speaker 9: me straight out what was going on.
Speaker 7: I just was like, he's so cute. They're like, he's
Speaker 7: much older than you. Usted of it, Like.
Speaker 1: Right, okay, okay, we'll move on. Then is everyone on
Speaker 1: that show?
Speaker 9: Everyone that worked on Clarisa, I feel like was twenty
Speaker 9: three and I was like fifteen sixteen, But I'd always
Speaker 9: have crushes on all the boys around, but of course
Speaker 9: it was always the ones that Now looking back, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, I bet they were getting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a Nickelodeon thing. Why was that
Speaker 3: a Nickelodeon thing? Where we were always thirteen or fourteen,
Speaker 3: but the people that were working, It's like you get
Speaker 3: to ABC and everybody that's working is thirty five or forty.
Speaker 3: You get to Nickelodeon and it's like you're fifteen and
Speaker 3: everybody's twenty two.
Speaker 7: College.
Speaker 9: You know, people in Orlando, like I know some of
Speaker 9: my friends that I'm still Like the girl who did
Speaker 9: wardrobe on Clarisa and her husband who was the executive
Speaker 9: assistant executive producer's assistant.
Speaker 7: They got married, but they just got out of college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Orlando.
Speaker 9: So I think it's like a big Like if you
Speaker 9: just graduated college and you're like twenty two, twenty three,
Speaker 9: you get a job at Nickelodeon or Disney, you know sense, Yeah,
Speaker 9: it work.
Speaker 2: Your way up to a network job too. Back then,
Speaker 2: you know, like network job was the thing to get.
Speaker 9: Well, Like Sabrina Are, we had we had some young
Speaker 9: people on the crew, but they were mainly people that
Speaker 9: had already had family members in the industry. The rest
Speaker 9: of our crew had come from murder, she wrote, and
Speaker 9: so a large part of our camera and sound department
Speaker 9: had come from Murder, she wrote, And I think because
Speaker 9: of Sabrina going by second season, we knew it was
Speaker 9: going to go four seasons. They were basically like, we're
Speaker 9: going to ride this out to retirement, like they had
Speaker 9: already done Murder. She wrote for like ten years or
Speaker 9: something nine years, and then they were like Sabrina for
Speaker 9: seven and then they were all retired. But you know,
Speaker 9: I just think there's older crew, and there's so much
Speaker 9: need in La whereas Orlando and the studios they were
Speaker 9: all really new, so a lot of college kids, you know,
Speaker 9: wanting to stay close to home.
Speaker 3: I think I also think, and I could be wrong,
Speaker 3: but I'm not. I think Angela Lansberry was actually killing
Speaker 3: all those people for all those years for sure. I mean,
Speaker 3: totally honest with you around her. Yeah, and she's like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, another murder in our small town. I'll make
Speaker 3: a book out of it. Yeah, she was a serial
Speaker 3: killer and we all know it.
Speaker 12: That's brilliant write that script.
Speaker 1: After one hundred and sixty three episodes of Sabrina, the
Speaker 1: series ended with you almost being married but instead running
Speaker 1: off with Harvey. So, looking back thirty years later, what
Speaker 1: do you think about that ending now, and do you
Speaker 1: think it was the right choice?
Speaker 9: I do, Actually, I very much think that that is
Speaker 9: the reason why I don't want to do a reboot,
Speaker 9: because I think it was the perfect ending. It was
Speaker 9: like because she made the decision to leave her wedding.
Speaker 9: It wasn't like she saw Harvey and decided he was
Speaker 9: She just decided this wasn't the right match for her
Speaker 9: and she needed to not make this commitment.
Speaker 7: And she walks out the door.
Speaker 9: She kisses him by and it's like, I'm sorry, and
Speaker 9: he goes, I understand if I'm not the one for you, and.
Speaker 7: I walk out the door of my own free will.
Speaker 9: And then there's Harvey who pulls up and goes, I
Speaker 9: think I'm supposed to be here or something, and I'm like,
Speaker 9: I think you are too, And then I run kiss him,
Speaker 9: get on a motorcycle. We drive off to No Doubt playing,
Speaker 9: And so I just think it was such a perfect
Speaker 9: tie up. Oh and then our our soul stones roll
Speaker 9: away and connect and you can see that we're meant
Speaker 9: to be together. And but the thing is, it had
Speaker 9: been a season of build up of me getting married
Speaker 9: to this other guy, so it was kind of crazy,
Speaker 9: Like what's so funny about that is that for those
Speaker 9: that don't know, like I got married right after that,
Speaker 9: like I was engaged that I was engaged for the
Speaker 9: second half of the last season. So the whole time
Speaker 9: we're playing, it's like is art impertaining life or life
Speaker 9: imittaining art? Because I'm trying, like Sabrina had probably ten
Speaker 9: episodes were about this wedding.
Speaker 7: So I'm in I'm Bridezilla.
Speaker 9: In one episode and I'm trying to I'm kidnapped by
Speaker 9: a troll in one or something.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I can remember much than I do, but I don't
Speaker 9: know if you guys, did you ever watch your episodes
Speaker 9: back because I've never.
Speaker 3: Read are now we're yeah riders, never seen them.
Speaker 9: We were working on Friday nights, like we don't get
Speaker 9: to watch it and it was given to you on
Speaker 9: like a VHS unless my Saturday is like watch the
Speaker 9: show that I fought films.
Speaker 3: Wasn't given to us, Melissa. We had we had to
Speaker 3: pay for the v.
Speaker 1: We did a lot different than we were Friday.
Speaker 7: Someone would come around and hand us the VHS.
Speaker 1: Here's at the end of the season. They would charge
Speaker 1: us like three hundred and fifty dollars to get to
Speaker 1: get six VHS tapes with four episodes per tape. We
Speaker 1: had to pay for them if we wanted them.
Speaker 3: In the clothes we paid for ourselves.
Speaker 7: What you guys should come over and stolen all my clothes?
Speaker 1: I know, had we known, we would have been asking
Speaker 1: for favors if you, well you were.
Speaker 3: You also weren't wearing jewel toes at the time, which
Speaker 3: is all that I wear. It wasn't, So that's the thing,
Speaker 3: Well there is.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be able to ask you about
Speaker 1: this because I don't know if you've ever been asked
Speaker 1: to about this before, but there is a somewhat infamous
Speaker 1: photo of you that makes the rounds every year, and
Speaker 1: people sometimes dub it as the most nineties picture ever.
Speaker 1: And it is you playing the Sega Dreamcast in what
Speaker 1: looks like a Hollywood video. Let's show the picture. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: look at you. Do you know how this picture came
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 7: I think I was invited to some Nintendo party and
Speaker 7: they're like, show up. I think I is this.
Speaker 9: I think it's two thousand and two where I've just
Speaker 9: met my husband, because I think he's there with me.
Speaker 9: And they're like, hey, come to this Nintendo party. I'm
Speaker 9: like okay, and then a port the photographers Sega.
Speaker 7: Okay, so is that not Nintendo or that is a.
Speaker 3: Company?
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah.
Speaker 7: So they were like, come to this party. And I,
Speaker 7: you know, before we really knew.
Speaker 9: And obviously I'm just in like my casual clothes and
Speaker 9: have some freaking things in my hair. But I guess
Speaker 9: I was playing. And they're like there's a photographer and
Speaker 9: You're like, yeah, okay, I'm here for Sega. I love Sega,
Speaker 9: you know, and like take the picture, and I have
Speaker 9: no idea.
Speaker 7: It was so iconic though.
Speaker 1: Though it is such an iconic photo. People love it
Speaker 1: and it goes around every year, and so I had to.
Speaker 1: I had seen it here.
Speaker 7: And there, but I didn't realize the thing.
Speaker 3: I still have a working Sea Dreamcast.
Speaker 1: Of course you do. Was never so rid of anything.
Speaker 3: I have a working I have a working Atari Jaguar,
Speaker 3: I have working Nintendo Cube, I have all those stuff.
Speaker 7: I have all that's wild that you have it.
Speaker 9: We just got my son for his birthday a big
Speaker 9: like gaming station thing like it has four controllers and
Speaker 9: it's it's like, you know, some guy built the encasing
Speaker 9: and it's like an a cute monitor, but it has
Speaker 9: like thirteen thousand games in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you.
Speaker 3: Want to get. You want to get something like that
Speaker 3: because I have all the new games, like the PlayStation stuff.
Speaker 3: I can't do any of that stuff, but the old games.
Speaker 3: All play those all day long.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, a Google image search of you is literally one
Speaker 1: of the most fun rides you can ever take. You
Speaker 1: were the you were the coolest definition of nineties. Like,
Speaker 1: it's it's very it's very so I wanted to see
Speaker 1: in reflection now, what emotions come to you when you
Speaker 1: see these. This appears to be a girl's night out
Speaker 1: with Tiya Tamara, Genevanoy, Andrea Barber and Jodie Sweeten. Let's
Speaker 1: go to pick two. Yes, look at you.
Speaker 9: This is my first red carpet I had. I think
Speaker 9: just finished.
Speaker 7: It's the Kid's Choice Awards, I believe, No, not Kid's
Speaker 7: Choice Awards.
Speaker 9: It was called the Youth and Film Awards, right, I think, yeah,
Speaker 9: maybe it.
Speaker 7: Was Nicholas Film.
Speaker 2: There was Kids Star, then there's Nigolaton Kid's Choice or
Speaker 2: Young Star, Young Star Awards, Youth and Film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is when I was dating Jenna. This is
Speaker 3: what Jenna was my girlfriend at this time. I think
Speaker 3: I was supposed to go to this with her.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she like we were in the limo together and
Speaker 9: she like put this to You can see how uncomfortable
Speaker 9: I'm Look at my look.
Speaker 7: They're all like posing, smiling. Look at Jenna with her
Speaker 7: hands out right and that like arms down, Like, what.
Speaker 3: The hell is going on?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, here's another one. It's a very
Speaker 1: cute shot of you and Britney Spears picture three about.
Speaker 9: You if you look at my eyes. I had been
Speaker 9: crying all evening. Why this was like one of the
Speaker 9: at the time, I thought this was like the worst day.
Speaker 7: Of my life.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, tell me the details.
Speaker 7: Okay, this is to drive me crazy. New York Premiere.
Speaker 7: We'd already done the La premiere.
Speaker 9: I was dating a boy in the movie I was
Speaker 9: supposed to fly off to. So I was breaking up
Speaker 9: with the boy that night because I decided I no
Speaker 9: longer wanted a relationship with him. So that was a
Speaker 9: little heartbreaking. I was with my family. We had done
Speaker 9: so much press. I'd been up since four am doing
Speaker 9: like Bregius and Kathy Lee and all the press.
Speaker 7: I had to wait on the red carpet.
Speaker 9: They wanted me to wait in my car for like
Speaker 9: an hour for Brittany to show up so we could
Speaker 9: do photos together. And I was like, can I just
Speaker 9: go start doing the press, Like, Nope, you gotta wait
Speaker 9: for Brittany. Then as soon as the movie started, I
Speaker 9: was whisked away to a limo. I was supposed to
Speaker 9: go shoot the movie scary movie in Vancouver. I was
Speaker 9: supposed to be the opening, the vivacious, big breasted one
Speaker 9: that's like murdered or something in the beginning. And I
Speaker 9: was putting a limo and taken away and I just
Speaker 9: broke up with my boyfriend while we were in the movie,
Speaker 9: and I'm like crying and I'm upset, and my little
Speaker 9: brother was there and I've remembered just like being like
Speaker 9: I never get to see him. And I got to
Speaker 9: spend like ten minutes with him and had to leave
Speaker 9: my family. So got in the limo. I'm driving in
Speaker 9: the airport. Now I gotta go fly shoot this movie.
Speaker 7: I get a call in.
Speaker 9: The limo on one of those phones, yes, and they're like,
Speaker 9: you've been fired from the movie. You can go back
Speaker 9: to your party because I was there was a party
Speaker 9: at Planet Hollywood, but I wasn't, and they were like
Speaker 9: putting in my like some of my clothes were being
Speaker 9: dedicated to that Planet Hollywood. So they call on the
Speaker 9: limo and they're like, Okay, go to your party. I
Speaker 9: was like, yes, I go to my party. And while
Speaker 9: I'm at the party, that's at Planet Hollywood, that's where
Speaker 9: that photo is taken. I think she showed up at
Speaker 9: the she showed up at the party after and that
Speaker 9: picture was taken, and they tell me my lawyer shows
Speaker 9: up and goes that you did a photo shoot for
Speaker 9: Maxim magazine.
Speaker 7: I'm like, yes I did.
Speaker 9: They're like, well, you're being sued and fired from your show,
Speaker 9: so don't talk to the press, don't do anything like
Speaker 9: this hit at that moment. So I get a phone
Speaker 9: call on my cell phone from my mother, my producer,
Speaker 9: who's like.
Speaker 7: What did you do. I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 9: Whatever my publicist told me to do on the red
Speaker 9: cart like or at the photo shoot, like I did
Speaker 9: a photo shoot for Maxim.
Speaker 7: It's Maxim, Like, of course you're gonna be in your underwear.
Speaker 7: They're like, what did you do? What did you do.
Speaker 9: I'm like, I don't know. They're like we're being fired
Speaker 9: from the show. Like, oh my god. So I'm crying.
Speaker 9: Then the movie lets out and everybody shows up, and
Speaker 9: I'm just and then my dad, who is not really
Speaker 9: like the warm, cuddly kind of dadd He's never really
Speaker 9: He lived in New York while I was in La,
Speaker 9: so he wasn't really around for emotional stuff.
Speaker 7: And he comes up to me. He goes, you okay.
Speaker 9: I was like no, and like he hugs me, and
Speaker 9: I'm like crying even harder because my Daddy's hugging me,
Speaker 9: and like I'm being.
Speaker 1: Fired from my show.
Speaker 7: I was just fired from the movie. I just broke
Speaker 7: up with my boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 9: I went to a hotel room. They were like, you
Speaker 9: can have the hotel room here for two more days
Speaker 9: or something like that. I just hid in a hotel room.
Speaker 9: Woke up the next day with like chocolate ice cream
Speaker 9: from my cheek. Like there were like three people in
Speaker 9: my room, scattered amongst the room, in the bed and
Speaker 9: all of the floor, like some of my co stars
Speaker 9: and friends, and like everyone just like slept over my room.
Speaker 7: We just like pigged out, like drank and like.
Speaker 9: Yes, I had Like I woke up like in a
Speaker 9: rock star moment the next day of like, what's going
Speaker 9: on in my life?
Speaker 3: And so that was the yeah, what was that at
Speaker 3: the end of like was that?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 9: I think came of it, But of course in the moment,
Speaker 9: I didn't know what was going on, and what happened
Speaker 9: was then it became like they had no ground to
Speaker 9: stand on. What happened was the magazine wrote, I actually
Speaker 9: have it here. The magazine wrote Sabrina your favorite witch.
Speaker 9: With that I've never heard of anyone being on the
Speaker 9: cover of magazine not using their real name.
Speaker 7: They use Sabrina.
Speaker 9: So my Hearchie comic uh contract it said I would
Speaker 9: never play the character naked, and so here they were
Speaker 9: thinking I'm in breach because I'm playing the character. I
Speaker 9: was like, no, that was supposed to be me promoting
Speaker 9: my movie. It wasn't supposed to be character. I didn't
Speaker 9: I had no control over.
Speaker 7: What they wrote cover. So I wrote a bology letter
Speaker 7: and it was all gone. But that's the wee week
Speaker 7: to the next few weeks.
Speaker 9: So the golden like the silver lining here is that
Speaker 9: for the next few weeks, the top News. I mean,
Speaker 9: Regis and Kathy Lee talked about it every morning. Jay
Speaker 9: Leno talked about it every night. Can Melissa be sexy?
Speaker 9: She's twenty three? Is she allowed to be sexy? What
Speaker 9: is what's going on here? Is this allowed? Is this okay?
Speaker 9: Why is why she being fire from our show and
Speaker 9: all the drama? But it made for drive me crazy
Speaker 9: to come out and be a huge success.
Speaker 7: It was insane.
Speaker 1: Wow, what a backstory to That's why.
Speaker 7: My eyes are read in that picture?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, here is another adorable shot
Speaker 1: of you and a very tan Ryan Reynolds. I didn't
Speaker 1: think there is a picture. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: possible for Reynolds to not have a good picture. But
Speaker 1: there's a great picture of Ryan Reynolds and you look glorious.
Speaker 9: This is ever set of our movie. This is Sabrina.
Speaker 9: This is the first movie we did for Sabrina in Vancouver.
Speaker 3: And this is the big Hawaiian He looks Hawaiian? Does
Speaker 3: he looks.
Speaker 9: Or the big fluffy eyebrows. I'm not really sure, but yeah,
Speaker 9: he was. Uh he was already like six foot so
Speaker 9: he's very tall.
Speaker 7: I'm very short, and yeah he was.
Speaker 9: He was the guy I was chasing in the original
Speaker 9: Sabrina movie. And then like we have a moment in
Speaker 9: the car where he wants to make out and I
Speaker 9: don't want it, and he gets mad at me and
Speaker 9: I leave the car and he drives away or something.
Speaker 9: You know, some some crazy boy and girl you know
Speaker 9: traumatic story where it sends me running back to Harvey.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, I also love this picture of you in ell
Speaker 1: Coolja at what looks like possibly that same Sega dreamcast.
Speaker 7: So because my hair almost got.
Speaker 1: That same headband, the double headband.
Speaker 7: So funny.
Speaker 9: Look at me, no makeup, just like weird. It's not
Speaker 9: even double headband. It's like two ropes around my head.
Speaker 7: I think, like pieces. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 7: I thought it was a thing at the time.
Speaker 1: How much fun was the nineties?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: How much fun hair?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: We did some crazy crap to our hair, like twisted
Speaker 7: it in different ways. A little butterfly clips.
Speaker 1: That's what't even get me started on the butterfly clips.
Speaker 7: That's what I thought you were gonna show before, was
Speaker 7: the butterfly clips?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, we we have tried to explain it
Speaker 1: on the podcast. But being like a child actor in
Speaker 1: the nineties was really like a club where we looked
Speaker 1: to each other for friendship and advice and common ground.
Speaker 1: Did you find it comforting to have a lot of
Speaker 1: in the industry?
Speaker 9: You know, It's funny because I feel like as much
Speaker 9: as I hung out with people, I never really got
Speaker 9: close to anyone, but the crew on Sabrina, the cast
Speaker 9: we were close.
Speaker 7: We were really close.
Speaker 9: But I also sort of I'm like the more the
Speaker 9: merrier kind of person. I always invite too many people around,
Speaker 9: so I never really get to know anyone really well
Speaker 9: one on one, and I've my fifteen year old is
Speaker 9: much better at it, and I'm like, way to go, dude,
Speaker 9: Way to like invest in relationships one on one and
Speaker 9: really know that person and have them know you. And
Speaker 9: I feel like I was always kind of around too
Speaker 9: many people. But the people that I got closest to
Speaker 9: were my hair and makeup wardrobe, like those are my
Speaker 9: rider people, you know, and the camera crew. I would
Speaker 9: go with the Dolly Grip. We'd go skiing every winter
Speaker 9: to We'd be like, you want to go to this?
Speaker 9: I have a house in Tahoe for eighteen years because
Speaker 9: he and I were like, never been to Tahoe.
Speaker 7: Me, neither. Let's go to Tahoe and snowboard. You know,
Speaker 7: so we've snowboarded.
Speaker 9: He and I have snowboarded all over the country and
Speaker 9: and so, you know, I feel like I was always
Speaker 9: closer with the crew, having actor friends around.
Speaker 7: I don't know, I think I never trusted them very much.
Speaker 9: I felt like it could be a competitive I never
Speaker 9: felt that, or I never like allowed that into the
Speaker 9: space of Sabrina. I feel like I was never a
Speaker 9: competitive person with other people.
Speaker 7: I was always very like.
Speaker 9: Let's play, let's have fun, and so I think that
Speaker 9: that led to a good environment on the set. But
Speaker 9: at the same time, I was a little weary of
Speaker 9: hearing stories, especially from other actors, like you know, Alisa
Speaker 9: Donovan or or solet move like my friends kind of
Speaker 9: telling me about other kind of rivalries they'd had and stuff,
Speaker 9: and I was like, I don't love that.
Speaker 3: Like, right, I think I might get very high school.
Speaker 3: It could get very high school after a while, there
Speaker 3: were clear I feel.
Speaker 9: Like I left high school right when I did Larissa.
Speaker 9: I had finished my ninth grade year and in a
Speaker 9: public school, and I was done. I was done with
Speaker 9: middle school, like I was I hated that experiences, right,
Speaker 9: I like hated the pure pressure and all that. When
Speaker 9: I was on set, if I was nice to people,
Speaker 9: they were nice to me. They didn't care what I
Speaker 9: was wearing, what music I.
Speaker 7: Was listening to.
Speaker 9: Because before that, I'm getting teased for liking the monkeys
Speaker 9: and wearing I wanted to wear, like like punk clothes,
Speaker 9: but all everyone where I grew up was yuppie, preppy,
Speaker 9: so you know, and I got teased constantly. But then
Speaker 9: I was on set wearing like the Grip's big shirt
Speaker 9: and some combat boots, and everyone's like, they don't care
Speaker 9: if I roll into my pajamas as long as nice
Speaker 9: and I do my job, you know, Right. I had
Speaker 9: a really hard time around my own peers, and the
Speaker 9: crew always ended up being older. Like you said, well,
Speaker 9: like they were always a little bit older, so I
Speaker 9: felt like I could, I could hang with the older people.
Speaker 7: It was my peers that I was afraid of.
Speaker 3: Wow, right, interesting.
Speaker 11: Wow.
Speaker 1: I can't let this podcast go without mentioning our mutual
Speaker 1: dear friend Caroline Ray, who I love so much, but
Speaker 1: she is one of the funniest human beings I've ever
Speaker 1: been around in my entire life. Do you have any
Speaker 1: favorite Caroline Ray stories or memories?
Speaker 9: Gosh, well, she's got some about me. I actually made
Speaker 9: her record one on my voicemail and I'm keeping it forever.
Speaker 9: When we met Lauren McCall, well, she we were in
Speaker 9: New York at a restaurant and.
Speaker 7: She was like, there's Lauren McCall. We have to go
Speaker 7: say hi. And I was like why. She's like, it's
Speaker 7: Lauren miccle we have to go say how.
Speaker 9: I'm all right, And I forget how the story goes,
Speaker 9: but I'll have to listen to what she says in
Speaker 9: the voicemail again.
Speaker 7: But it's something about me going up to going hi.
Speaker 9: You're really prettier, so, you know, saying something to her
Speaker 9: and she's like, It'slauren bacall.
Speaker 7: You don't say or I said something to her like.
Speaker 9: I have a TV show. I forget what I said
Speaker 9: to her. But she's like that was embarrassing, Like why
Speaker 9: did you say that?
Speaker 7: And I was like I don't know.
Speaker 1: She like I know noone else to say.
Speaker 7: I yeah, I froze, like you have to give me
Speaker 7: some prep like I did the same thing with John Trabolta,
Speaker 7: Like I freeze.
Speaker 9: When I'm like putting up a situation where they're like, hey,
Speaker 9: here's a role model or here's an icon that you
Speaker 9: should talk to right now.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh, I need Prepper, like I need
Speaker 7: a script. I need a memory, like I needed to
Speaker 7: have a plan. I can't just go in. I'm not
Speaker 7: an impro of person.
Speaker 9: She's Carlin has a really funny story about me.
Speaker 7: If you get her on the Has she been on
Speaker 7: the pod?
Speaker 1: No, I've been trying, and she is the world's busiest
Speaker 1: human being. I asked her. I was like, do you
Speaker 1: have any availability for July? And she was like, July,
Speaker 1: it's May. Why are you booking me? I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Caroline, I'm doing my best here trying
Speaker 1: to work around her schedule.
Speaker 11: July.
Speaker 10: What year?
Speaker 7: About the Lauren Becall story?
Speaker 1: Okay, I will. We will talk to her about exactly.
Speaker 7: She remembers it because she's horrified by it.
Speaker 1: Still so funny. You have three kids of your own,
Speaker 1: if any of them wanted to get into acting, how
Speaker 1: would you feel about that?
Speaker 9: Well, the middle one between us has asked me to
Speaker 9: get into modeling because he thinks it's going to get.
Speaker 7: Up free shoes.
Speaker 1: Reason, good reason.
Speaker 9: I can get a brand to give me shoes if
Speaker 9: I model. I was like, okay, I was like, you
Speaker 9: can do that to pay for college and then you
Speaker 9: but in college you're finding something else.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 7: You guys know, it's a tough business.
Speaker 9: Like I don't really wish that on anyone that does
Speaker 9: it that isn't super passionate about it. And thus far
Speaker 9: my kids are seventeen, fifteen to ten, they have not
Speaker 9: shown any interest in it for authentic reasons of wanting
Speaker 9: to be an artist or do learn a craft or
Speaker 9: a skill.
Speaker 7: My oldest wants to be a pilot.
Speaker 9: My middle one wants to model, but really he's not
Speaker 9: sure what he wants to do yet. I think he's
Speaker 9: going to be some sort of athlete. And then my
Speaker 9: little one is an insane person into minecraft.
Speaker 7: So he's either going to be a lawyer or a criminal.
Speaker 9: But he's just super clever and very like his energy
Speaker 9: is like insane. So if he learns to harness it,
Speaker 9: he could be a lawyer, but if he doesn't, he
Speaker 9: might be a criminal.
Speaker 1: In a courtroom, I like it, yes, exactly nice, he'll
Speaker 1: defend himself.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 9: But anyway, so he's too young to tell anyway. I
Speaker 9: feel like he's so, I mean the minecraft thing. I'm like,
Speaker 9: be an architect, be an architect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind to.
Speaker 7: Push in any way.
Speaker 9: But because if they ever talk about it, it's always
Speaker 9: because they think it'll make them rich and famous.
Speaker 7: It's all for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1: Right, So you're like, we don't need to push that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like, they're all into music, and I would be
Speaker 9: okay with that. If they're super passionate about it, I'd
Speaker 9: be okay with that. But acting has never been a
Speaker 9: thing for them, thankfully.
Speaker 1: Well, Melissa, thank you so much for being here with us.
Speaker 7: It's so good to see all your faces.
Speaker 1: And are we going to be seeing you in Tampa.
Speaker 7: I will see you in Tampa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just fun. We should also we should also tell
Speaker 3: them something, Melissa, Okay. Yeah, So Melissa and I are
Speaker 3: also going to be doing a film together. We are
Speaker 3: partnering up to do a movie that I wrote from
Speaker 3: before the pandemic. But we have been working on something
Speaker 3: that we're very excited that we'll bring back all of
Speaker 3: our nineties friends.
Speaker 7: It'll be a very nineties happy reunion movie.
Speaker 3: Kind of movie.
Speaker 7: Yes, it'll tap into all those lovely parts.
Speaker 1: Of Hearts Exclusive.
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, you're both in it. Sorry to
Speaker 3: have to tell you that, but you are so sure.
Speaker 3: There's nothing you're going to be able to do to
Speaker 3: get out of it. But it makes your axes and
Speaker 3: some of your exes and some of our friends, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's essentially a Melissa and I did a movie together
Speaker 3: back in the nineties and we never finished it. And
Speaker 3: for a bunch of very funny reasons, the director has
Speaker 3: to get his cast back together to finish their nineties
Speaker 3: movie even though we're all now almost fifty.
Speaker 7: I love bit older, but it's got that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So it's us now with the nostalgia of back then,
Speaker 9: so it'll be It's super funny. Will wrote this great
Speaker 9: movie and I got super excited when I read it,
Speaker 9: and I was.
Speaker 7: Like, we have to do this. I have to be
Speaker 7: in this with you, so.
Speaker 1: So I love it. Well you heard it here first, folks.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Melissa. It was so fun having you.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can come back when we get to season
Speaker 1: five and do a recap with us, maybe for the
Speaker 1: episode where you make your where you pop your head
Speaker 1: in for the tag or something.
Speaker 9: I love to I would love to really dissect that I'm.
Speaker 4: In Yeah, really go deep.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm into that. I'm really digging that. Let's be good.
Speaker 1: Let's do that for sure, and we will. We will
Speaker 1: see you again in Tampa.
Speaker 7: Thanks guys, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Bye wow Will. Thanks for giving us the exclusive about
Speaker 1: the That news is exciting.
Speaker 3: We're very excited.
Speaker 1: Former teeny bopper Flames back in action.
Speaker 3: Playing playing Flames again.
Speaker 2: So it's been a while from the Nickelodeon lunt today exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode
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