Speaker 1: Hi, guys, there he is Donald. You'll be very happy
Speaker 1: to know that I don't have my sound effects machine,
Speaker 1: so any sound effects drops that the audience likes, I
Speaker 1: will be doing live.
Speaker 2: This is the best day ever. Oh my god, what
Speaker 2: just happened? People? Everyone? Today is the best day ever.
Speaker 1: Because I don't have the sound effects machine.
Speaker 2: Yes, but none of that, none of that.
Speaker 1: I love you, ship, sound listen. I'm gonna do them live.
Speaker 1: I just want the audience hear. What you're trying to
Speaker 1: get into a day is soon. What you're trying to.
Speaker 3: Do, that's the only one that you can do that's
Speaker 3: actually gonna sound authentic.
Speaker 2: Everyone else you don't sound like Meal tech.
Speaker 1: Forever Wu Tang forever? What Wo tang forever?
Speaker 2: It doesn't work. I miss I missed you too. This
Speaker 2: has been a crazy, crazy, crazy summer. Holy Ship.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's very bizarre time in our town because nobody
Speaker 1: can work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hot as balls outside.
Speaker 1: Yes, nobody can work and it's hot as balls outside.
Speaker 2: This is what I imagine hell is like, hot and workless,
Speaker 2: hot and workless.
Speaker 1: Well, that just shows that you love your work too,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people would imagine hell would be
Speaker 1: hot and work full. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, not if you love what you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you love what you do.
Speaker 3: I'm one of the very few people in the world
Speaker 3: that gets to do what he's always wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's probably true, Donald, You're one of an elite
Speaker 1: group of people that actually gets to do what they
Speaker 1: love to do. Joel and Daniel too.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they feel about this job.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, but Donald's right. Daniel might be like, I
Speaker 1: will kill them one day.
Speaker 2: If anybody got to hear what you're trying to get
Speaker 2: into a day shune.
Speaker 1: One more fucking time.
Speaker 2: I have to listen to their voices even after the show.
Speaker 1: Was Yeah, because Daniel has to edit the show, so
Speaker 1: for all we know, he's up late, and I'd be like, oh.
Speaker 2: Soon soon, Donald, if you don't get your mic right.
Speaker 1: Yes, if he reads that ad wrong, one more fucking time,
Speaker 1: I'll blow. Yeah. Daniel will be in a visa being like.
Speaker 2: You got to show me off.
Speaker 1: Daniel, is that your dream? To be a well paid
Speaker 1: DJ in a viza on drugs?
Speaker 2: It was for a little bit. It was for a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie though, I do love this job
Speaker 4: and I love having a real home life. Being gone
Speaker 4: every weekend and not having like friends to hang out
Speaker 4: with during the week is tough.
Speaker 2: So what money DJ in man? That's for damn sure.
Speaker 4: Hell no, I wish.
Speaker 1: But he's not talking. I will never reached and he could,
Speaker 1: of course if he tried. I don't know, but he never.
Speaker 1: He never reached the he never reached the private jet
Speaker 1: DJ status.
Speaker 4: I assume not not quite now. It was a long
Speaker 4: road and there are many choices I may have changed
Speaker 4: along the way. However, I'm very proud of that time
Speaker 4: in my life and I'm happy where I am now.
Speaker 4: So no regrets.
Speaker 1: You know I met and I hung out with the
Speaker 1: dj Z.
Speaker 2: Do you know him?
Speaker 1: No, Anton, I do know Anton. Anton is paid. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's he thinks. So if I made a song like Clarity,
Speaker 1: then yes.
Speaker 2: I say, you are a piece.
Speaker 1: He's so talented. Is he super talented? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't listen to that music. So is he super good?
Speaker 1: He must be, because rules he is super talented. He's
Speaker 1: an amazing musician, like he was a classically trade pianist.
Speaker 3: So didn't watch McCalla write that song? Though he didn't
Speaker 3: write that song, didn't Hillary Duff husband wrote that.
Speaker 4: Song the lyrics or the music the lyrics, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure it is.
Speaker 1: It is his song.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the name of the singer, but she's
Speaker 4: also very talented. But I mean he wrote the music
Speaker 4: part of it. So that's the part that I give
Speaker 4: him those most credit for. He also works with, I mean,
Speaker 4: a bunch of talented writers. He's brought up so many people.
Speaker 4: I got nothing but respect for that.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice to hear. He was a very he's
Speaker 1: a very nice guy. I just met him a few
Speaker 1: times and he's, uh, he's super nice. I just I
Speaker 1: also happened to see his house, so I was like,
Speaker 1: damn anton.
Speaker 2: Man's question, do you have a movie theater?
Speaker 1: He just had one of those like I'm a rich DJ.
Speaker 1: Holy shit houses?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like did he have a tennis court?
Speaker 1: I didn't like survey the grounds. Donald. I was just
Speaker 1: there for a cocktail party and it was like a
Speaker 1: wow house and I was like, Wow, this is one
Speaker 1: of those I don't know his music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bake grass are real grass?
Speaker 1: Is that how you determine wealth?
Speaker 3: I'm just saying some people determine wealth whether they have
Speaker 3: a swing in a cement that's Casey.
Speaker 1: You got to tell that story.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You can't leave the audience curious about that.
Speaker 2: My wife told us that when she was growing up.
Speaker 1: Are you going to tell this wright or do I
Speaker 1: need to take over?
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell her wrong. You need to take over, dude.
Speaker 1: I need to take over Donald's wife's story just because
Speaker 1: Donald's too high to remembory.
Speaker 2: No, it's so long ago.
Speaker 1: She was talking about how in Waco, Texas, and this
Speaker 1: was many years.
Speaker 2: Ago, well Marlin, Texas.
Speaker 1: Marlin, Texas, that her grandmother had a really nice house
Speaker 1: for very little money. And she and this is Casey
Speaker 1: said this without any trying to joke at all. She
Speaker 1: was like, y'all, she got this house for thirty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and this house was nice, y'all. I mean it
Speaker 1: had a swing set in the seaman.
Speaker 5: Hell. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She wasn't trying to be funny. She was like, that
Speaker 1: was one of the nice features of the house was
Speaker 1: that the swing set was.
Speaker 3: Imbedded into the dirt.
Speaker 1: It wasn't one of those ones where when you swing
Speaker 1: hard it comes up.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, there's no chance of the swing.
Speaker 1: This fucker was in.
Speaker 2: It was locked up in that. But dude was joking,
Speaker 2: He's going off to ods.
Speaker 1: But Donald, do you remember Casey wasn't joking. She wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to be funny. She was like being earnest. She
Speaker 1: was like, y'all it was nice, like the swing set
Speaker 1: was in the semen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was bragging y'all. Oh no, it was a
Speaker 2: nice house.
Speaker 1: Should we talk about going to te Swift because we
Speaker 1: had a great mandate.
Speaker 2: Listen that Te Swift? Cody was hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Cody, Cody, Cody's Cody's not a fan. We
Speaker 1: don't listen. Need to listen to Cody. Cody's Cody's all
Speaker 1: in on beyond.
Speaker 3: We should listen to Cody because he gets you into
Speaker 3: shape and everything like that.
Speaker 1: But no, but I mean he's not a te Swift fan,
Speaker 1: and Donald and I are. And we had a really
Speaker 1: nice date. We had a great night.
Speaker 3: I mean, hanging out with the people that we hung
Speaker 3: out made it even more special though. Getting again, Yeah,
Speaker 3: get to see getting to see bree.
Speaker 1: Uh and Lupin and Young Sarah and Sarah Paulson. It's
Speaker 1: quite the crew.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, wait a minute. I have like three
Speaker 6: friends who've met Lapita and they said, she literally stole
Speaker 6: their breath. She's the most beautiful woman. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Donald and I were like, we're like, you know, I
Speaker 1: know Sarah Paulson, we know Elizabeth Banks, you know I've
Speaker 1: met Brie Larson. We were we were in the Costa
Speaker 1: Egos shout out to cost Egos for letting us watch
Speaker 1: in the box. But anyway, Donald and I were like,
Speaker 1: you know, we know these these those gals. And then
Speaker 1: we saw and Amy Adams was there and I know her.
Speaker 1: And then but then Donald and I both saw Lupina
Speaker 1: and Young. We both just stopped in our tracks and
Speaker 1: we're like, our jaws dropped. She's so pretty, dude, and
Speaker 1: they're all beautiful. I just meant we hadn't met her before.
Speaker 1: In our start, in our Star sightings.
Speaker 2: We were surrounded by nothing but beautiful women.
Speaker 1: Other than Darren Chris, and other than Darren Chris, we
Speaker 1: were the only guys that funny.
Speaker 3: And freaking like Ashley Tisdale came up in there, like
Speaker 3: when we had a crew.
Speaker 1: And there was that famous TikTok girl's sister. I don't
Speaker 1: know TikTok dancers, but.
Speaker 2: Remember her, the one that was on Dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: There was a reality show about her family, the Damelio.
Speaker 1: Yeahmilio's the older sister. Donald and I may have been
Speaker 1: the only two straight men not accompanying a child there
Speaker 1: in the all of Sofi Stadium. That is how I felt,
Speaker 1: as well, Oh do you go? I did? It was great,
Speaker 1: wasn't it? Dude? It was so incredible.
Speaker 4: Just the fact that she can go for three and
Speaker 4: a half hours like that is mind blowing to me.
Speaker 4: I was just standing there dancing and singing, sure, but
Speaker 4: like she is performing, singing, bantering for three and a
Speaker 4: half hours. That conditioning is unparalleled. She is such an
Speaker 4: impressive performer.
Speaker 3: Man, she fucked up traffic in Hollywood. Man, I was
Speaker 3: all gonna say, how about that?
Speaker 2: Look, it was cool. The first night. I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: Taylor is in town. This is dope.
Speaker 3: Zach's taking me and we had a great time. I sang,
Speaker 3: I did all of that stuff. But for the next
Speaker 3: six days, traffic in Los Angeles was shit.
Speaker 2: Donald was all because of Taylor.
Speaker 1: Sweet I only I were loving the show. But I
Speaker 1: looked at him like, because we were starting to time out,
Speaker 1: we knew how long the show was, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I want you to look at all these people, seventy
Speaker 1: thousand people. I'm like, all these people are going to
Speaker 1: try and leave the same time, right, So, Donald, we're
Speaker 1: gonna miss some final tailor.
Speaker 2: Tracks, right, we missed all of that shit. We was like,
Speaker 2: that's wrap.
Speaker 1: We love Taylor, but we don't love two hours of
Speaker 1: traffic tailor.
Speaker 2: Now. No, no, no, no. I can't sit in the parking
Speaker 2: lot for two no.
Speaker 1: I would have lost my mind. I would have lost
Speaker 1: my mind. I saw the line for Uber and I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way it could not be caught dead.
Speaker 1: And that least when and were like these big stars
Speaker 1: like Lupida and Sarah Paulsen, they were disappearing for like
Speaker 1: an hour and you're like, where'd they go? And they
Speaker 1: would come back. They had gotten on the merch line.
Speaker 1: They had been on the line for merch. I was
Speaker 1: like Donald, I was like, Donald, do you need to go?
Speaker 1: The cool thing to do would be for you to
Speaker 1: come home with one of those sweatshirts for Casey And
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, hell no.
Speaker 3: The only way I'm getting one of them things with
Speaker 3: Casey is if, like if Lupita's like, would you like
Speaker 3: a sweatshirt?
Speaker 1: You were hoping that Lapita was going to be like
Speaker 1: I was free.
Speaker 2: Lars, and I was like, Brie, did you get anything
Speaker 2: from me?
Speaker 1: You were hoping that Lupite and Young was going to
Speaker 1: be like Donald, I googled your wife's sizes and here's That's.
Speaker 3: How good this freaking party was. That it wasn't just
Speaker 3: a concert. It was a party, like we were hanging
Speaker 3: out with some really awesome people who really liked Taylor Swept.
Speaker 2: That was the other thing.
Speaker 3: It was amazing that that all of these people really
Speaker 3: really we weren't there just because it was the Casamigo Suite,
Speaker 3: like that's the perk.
Speaker 2: That was one of the perks.
Speaker 3: Everybody who was there was a genuine Taylor Swift fan
Speaker 3: and knew all the lyrics.
Speaker 1: And we didn't know. We didn't know Donald and I
Speaker 1: knew a fraction of the songs because I think, I well,
Speaker 1: I really I like Taylor a lot. But my I
Speaker 1: was my favorite album is Folklore because she made an
Speaker 1: album with the National So it was like, wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's the most Taylor kind of music that can be.
Speaker 1: I love a lot of the pop hits, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but for me, that's the album that that
Speaker 1: I responded to most. So there were so many songs
Speaker 1: that were played, but I didn't I didn't even know.
Speaker 3: Oh that shit was there's maybe like three songs, four
Speaker 3: songs of the Whole Night that I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know this one.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the era when she came out like
Speaker 1: in the Princess dress, like that kind of music over
Speaker 1: speak now. Yeah, yeah, I don't know the song.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: Uh, that is an album I'm honestly least familiar with.
Speaker 4: I believe that is her third album.
Speaker 1: And the country something the Princess sparks.
Speaker 4: Oh that's what dear John mean, that's means, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we like nineteen eighty nine and we like,
Speaker 1: what's the reputation that.
Speaker 2: Oh that shit, what's the one where what's the one
Speaker 2: where she has.
Speaker 1: The midnight hat over her face? But that was that
Speaker 1: was red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. Yeah, I know all that.
Speaker 1: The dancers were incredible.
Speaker 3: Let's keep it one hundred, all right, let's be on
Speaker 3: Taylor ain't no dancer. Let's be one hundred about it all.
Speaker 1: She's a great for me, It's donald.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you right now, none of the all
Speaker 2: y'all be cracking me up with the These motherfuckers can dance.
Speaker 3: They ass off and then not pay attention to the
Speaker 3: fact about that there's a Beyonce out there.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on, buddy, there's a Come on buddy.
Speaker 2: Let's keep it one hundred. Taylor is a great performer
Speaker 2: and she has a great strut that she does. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep it one hundred with y'all. That strut is powerful.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to dancing, there's not a lot
Speaker 2: at the show. There was not a lot of.
Speaker 1: Em Instagram comments right now. I know, first of all, guys,
Speaker 1: it's Donald unders don't do it, and it's an underscore
Speaker 1: in seven f because he was so high he typed it.
Speaker 2: Ronald No, I was drunk that night.
Speaker 1: Oh drunk. I I was talking about not Taylor, And
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing it to Beyonce or Lady Gaga anyway.
Speaker 1: I thought the dancers that were hired were very good,
Speaker 1: and the show is just so pretty, the stage production
Speaker 1: and the lighting and uh, it's it was, like I
Speaker 1: described her to someone as like a halftime show that
Speaker 1: went for three and a half hours.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what the best part of it was
Speaker 3: is when the stage is empty and it's just her
Speaker 3: by herself on the stage, and you'll see how big
Speaker 3: the stage and how she's commanding that big.
Speaker 2: Of a stage.
Speaker 3: It also helps that you have a giant freaking jumbo
Speaker 3: tron up above. But when you look down and you
Speaker 3: see just her in this big, giant tea of a stage,
Speaker 3: Holy cow, it's like, Wow, you you buy yourself out there,
Speaker 3: and you're doing.
Speaker 2: It right now.
Speaker 1: I know, and every and and seventy thousand people are
Speaker 1: singing your lyrics back to you. What a feeling. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see Coldplay at the Rose Ball on
Speaker 1: September thirty. That'll be fun because you know that's my jam.
Speaker 1: They're so fun live.
Speaker 2: They got any new music, I'm sure they do.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to see all my favorites I just got.
Speaker 2: Also, one of last thing. She opened the motherfucker up
Speaker 2: with freaking the song that's popping right now, the summer shit,
Speaker 2: it's the Summer Jamo. So that should make me want
Speaker 2: to do the snake like you freaking back, like straight off, dude,
Speaker 2: straight up.
Speaker 1: I also want to get a shout out. I want
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to my very good friend,
Speaker 1: one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 1: His name is Preston Boyd and he is currently playing
Speaker 1: Javert in the tour of Lame Is Rob which is
Speaker 1: currently in Los Angeles. And if you're listening to this
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be in Los Angeles in the next
Speaker 1: few weeks, I'm telling you go see it. He just
Speaker 1: is extraordinary. I hope you're gonna go, Donald, I really
Speaker 1: want to. You should bring Wilder. She'll love it. It's
Speaker 1: so well done.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's le mis I don't know, I know
Speaker 3: it's I know it's singing throughout the whole thing. So
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that'll that'll be intriguing to her.
Speaker 1: But you can give her the basics of the story.
Speaker 1: You could talk her, explain it to her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be Yeah, that'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a great production, and I'm so proud of
Speaker 1: my friend because he's really great in it. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to say, if you're in LA in the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, go see it at the Pantages, which
Speaker 1: is to beautiful theater.
Speaker 3: I can't And also, yeah, before we move on, shout
Speaker 3: out to Rachel zales Man, Yo, thanks for hooking up
Speaker 3: the Cosamigo's suite.
Speaker 2: That was really awesome. So shout out to her. Man.
Speaker 3: We've known her for a really long time and she's
Speaker 3: always been really nice to us, So shout out.
Speaker 1: Yes. And Rachel, I believe, is the head of publicity
Speaker 1: for Casa Ego, So she was the reason we not
Speaker 1: that George Clooney doesn't love Donald and I places, but I.
Speaker 2: Mean, but he I mean, I'm sure he listens to
Speaker 2: the podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, I know that George loves the podcast. George, I
Speaker 1: don't think George was in charge of the guest list.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure that's part of the reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man with Donald in our minds, she
Speaker 1: went to George.
Speaker 3: He's in town, and I think Donald and Zach, after
Speaker 3: listening to the podcast, would love to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in our mind. That's how it happened that
Speaker 1: George Clooney listens to the podcast, and he was like, Rachel,
Speaker 1: come in my office please. I know we have limited
Speaker 1: room in the suite and Lupita's already contacted me, but
Speaker 1: are there two seats for Zach and Donald? And she's like,
Speaker 1: aren't they straight. Yeah, are they going to bring children? No, No,
Speaker 1: they're going to go on a date together.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened. Yeah, here's what happened. I need
Speaker 2: the sweep for them, Yes, I need this to be
Speaker 2: a purpose.
Speaker 1: He had to call Lupita and say, sorry, you only
Speaker 1: get a plus one.
Speaker 2: Right, because originally she had the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Lupita had like plus five, and George had to call
Speaker 1: her and calm that shit down. I'm sorry, Amy Adams,
Speaker 1: no children alone, all right? So Donald's going to count
Speaker 1: us in before he does, I want to say, you know,
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to talk about scrubs, as you guys know.
Speaker 1: So Donald and I are looking for cool opportunities to
Speaker 1: invite really interesting people on the show. Sometimes they'll be
Speaker 1: famous people, actors or creative types or other fame for
Speaker 1: other reasons, Like Cody was an interesting to us. And
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate enough to meet through Krista Miller, who
Speaker 1: has a very good friend named Claire Staples, who when
Speaker 1: I met Claire and heard her story and went to
Speaker 1: her ranch in Malibu, I was just blown away by
Speaker 1: what she has dedicated her life to. And I said
Speaker 1: to Donald and Joelle and Daniel. I really want to
Speaker 1: have this woman on because I've just become obsessed with
Speaker 1: this woman's Instagram account. She has dedicated her life to
Speaker 1: rescuing wild horses, and she will explain to us the
Speaker 1: whole situation why the Bureau of Land Management rounds up
Speaker 1: these horses, what they do to them, and how she
Speaker 1: has dedicated her entire life and formed this charity that
Speaker 1: rehabilitates and rescues these beautiful animals. And I've just been
Speaker 1: so moved by it. I've been obsessively watching her videos.
Speaker 1: She has an Instagram account, which we will send you to.
Speaker 1: I turned my mom onto it, and literally, right before
Speaker 1: I got on the podcast, my mom is like saying,
Speaker 1: I can't stop watching these videos. I'm like crying because
Speaker 1: they're so beautiful.
Speaker 2: You just go down a rabbit hole, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: You think like you know, you don't, you don't think
Speaker 3: about stuff like that, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it's you because you recommended it and I watched it.
Speaker 2: It was like, wait a second, well, let me go
Speaker 2: down more of this. Don't realize the feelings that these
Speaker 2: animals have and the long lasting bonds and friendship that
Speaker 2: they create. And it's really it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's gonna tell us all about it. I
Speaker 1: just want to give the instagram a shout out right
Speaker 1: off the bat, because if you love animals, this is
Speaker 1: just the most beautiful Instagram account. You see how she
Speaker 1: rehabilitates these horses, and you follow their stories, and people
Speaker 1: are so invested in their stories because Claire is such
Speaker 1: a good storyteller. The account handle on Instagram is sky
Speaker 1: Dog Sanctuary and join uh the four of us in
Speaker 1: in uh in following them, and you will just fall
Speaker 1: in love. And by the way, she'll go on to
Speaker 1: tell you all about it. But the charity covers that
Speaker 1: she raises money for these animals. It's also donkeys as well,
Speaker 1: and and and and other you know, other equine you know,
Speaker 1: zebras and the rescued from circuses and anything. She'll tell
Speaker 1: us all about it. But I want you to know
Speaker 1: that she it's her, it's a lot of it is
Speaker 1: her money. She's she they're a wealthy couple, and the
Speaker 1: charity helps raise money for food and vet bills, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But she and her husband are the ones who bought
Speaker 1: this nine thousand acre ranch in Bend Oregon and are
Speaker 1: spending their own money to to rescue examimals. So it's
Speaker 1: just really really inspiring.
Speaker 2: Donald counts and six seven eight stories.
Speaker 7: Sure, we made about a bunch of thousand stories natural.
Speaker 5: So sweet.
Speaker 1: All right, Daniel, please let in Claire Staples. Here she comes.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Claire Staple. There,
Speaker 2: she is, there, she is.
Speaker 1: Hi, Claire.
Speaker 5: Hello, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: We can sound?
Speaker 2: Are you good to see you?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program, Claire Staples. I am so excited
Speaker 1: that you made this happen, that you're here with us.
Speaker 5: It's kind of a dream come true moment for me
Speaker 5: to be on your podcast, to be speaking to you.
Speaker 2: We are very happy to make your dreams come true.
Speaker 1: That's what we do here one how we do it, Claire. First,
Speaker 1: I want you to meet the legendary Donald Faison. Hello, Donald,
Speaker 1: And that's a Joel and Dan, our partners in this endeavor.
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I just.
Speaker 1: Want to tell the audience I had the distance incredible experience.
Speaker 1: Christa Miller said to me, I want to take you
Speaker 1: to my friend's ranch in Malibu. She rescues wild horses,
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I love animals. That sounds really interesting.
Speaker 1: And I went and I saw this ranch, which is
Speaker 1: relatively small to what Claire has going on in Bend, Oregon,
Speaker 1: which is nine thousand acres. And Claire started to tell
Speaker 1: me the story of why and what's going on with
Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management and wild horses, and I
Speaker 1: was just blown away and the more she talked and
Speaker 1: she was so captivating. I then followed her on Instagram
Speaker 1: and Claire I was just telling the audience that my mom,
Speaker 1: literally right before I got in this podcast, text me,
Speaker 1: I can't stop watching Claire's videos. There's so moving. She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm crying watching these videos. So you've already got my mom,
Speaker 1: and I hooked. Will you please just start at the
Speaker 1: very beginning, because I imagine most people like myself know
Speaker 1: nothing about what's going on first and foremost, why is
Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management rounding up these horses and
Speaker 1: how do they do it?
Speaker 3: Okay, but before we start, sorry, I'm sorry. I had
Speaker 3: no idea that this was happening. I thought this had
Speaker 3: I thought horses were already bred in captivity. I didn't
Speaker 3: know that there were still wild horses out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: Just to know, just the history of it all. This
Speaker 2: land was once filled with horses like.
Speaker 3: Zebra in Africa, you know what I mean, herds and
Speaker 3: herds of horses.
Speaker 5: No, and it's absolutely true. There used to be like
Speaker 5: between two to five million wild horses all across the
Speaker 5: Western States. And it is true when white man came
Speaker 5: from the east to the west on the railroads that
Speaker 5: were now built, actually they would give shotguns to the
Speaker 5: passengers riding because as they went along they would shoot
Speaker 5: buffalo or the wild horses just for entertainment, you know,
Speaker 5: because they were bored on this cross country trip. That
Speaker 5: and then I don't know if you guys know the
Speaker 5: film The Misfits with James Deen and Marilyn Monroe. It's
Speaker 5: an extraordinary film, but basically James Den plays a mustanger
Speaker 5: back in the probably the fifties or sixties, and these
Speaker 5: cowboys used to go out and round up hundreds of
Speaker 5: wild horses and use them for a chicken feed and
Speaker 5: pet food. And over that time the numbers diminished and diminished,
Speaker 5: and eventually it got down to about twenty seven thousand
Speaker 5: wild horses in the Western States, which from the millions
Speaker 5: there were, was practically extinct. Yep, and this amazing woman
Speaker 5: in Nevada happened. She was working as a secretary in
Speaker 5: Reno and followed a slaughter truck that had blood pouring
Speaker 5: out of it all the way to a slaughter house,
Speaker 5: saw these wild horses being unloaded to be slaughtered. And
Speaker 5: from that day in nineteen seventy one, well, in nineteen
Speaker 5: seventy one, she actually got legislation passed. But she started
Speaker 5: this amazing grassroots organization where she had kids right to
Speaker 5: the president and ask him to protect America's wild horses.
Speaker 5: And Richard Nixon actually brought in a bill to protect
Speaker 5: the wild horses and wild Boroughs of America and.
Speaker 1: Just paused there because I had to google this. Our
Speaker 1: wild boroughs means wild donkey. Yes see, I did my homework.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So this amazing piece of legislation came in obstensively
Speaker 5: to protect them and increase their numbers. And since then
Speaker 5: it's really been a battle between advocates for the wild horses,
Speaker 5: the cattle ranchers, and extracted mining companies because our public
Speaker 5: lands where these wild horses live are also used to
Speaker 5: mine uranium and plutonium and oil and gas and coal,
Speaker 5: and so these so the government's intent is really just
Speaker 5: to clear the public lands and wild horses because they
Speaker 5: don't make any money off them, and they do the
Speaker 5: cattle lobbyists have enormous pull and sway in Congress. But
Speaker 5: you know, it is funny because we always used to
Speaker 5: talk about the BLM rounding up these horses, and then
Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter came along, and then.
Speaker 1: Wait, what does Black Lives Matter have to do with
Speaker 1: the wild horses? You've already lost me.
Speaker 5: Why are they out there rounding up all world horses?
Speaker 5: It was a very confusing pivot that the organization made.
Speaker 5: So I try and say the longer version as you
Speaker 5: just did. Bureau of Land Management.
Speaker 1: Okay, but Claire, why so just to go slowly because
Speaker 1: there's a lot to digest. Yeah, is the cattle lobby
Speaker 1: at the heart of why they are rounding up these horses?
Speaker 5: A lot of the yes, they have just historically in
Speaker 5: a state like Wyoming for example. You know, you don't
Speaker 5: have to watch Yellowstone and these these cattle barons back
Speaker 5: in the day had so much power and they really
Speaker 5: treated public lands as a free grazing asset for their
Speaker 5: cows that they would turn out onto public lands. They
Speaker 5: would fatten them up and then bring them into slaughter
Speaker 5: and make a lot of money from it. But these
Speaker 5: days a lot of the people that own these massive
Speaker 5: cattle ranches are really doing it as a tax break.
Speaker 5: They're massive conglomerations like the Koch brothers in Hilton and
Speaker 5: these they get so many tax breaks from running this
Speaker 5: kind of scam where the tax payers are paying to
Speaker 5: not only round up the wild horses in favor of
Speaker 5: cows and sheep, but also because they're the people that
Speaker 5: are electing the people in these states. So the cattle lobbyists,
Speaker 5: you know, put money into their campaigns and get them
Speaker 5: elected and change. They keep rounding up the horses and
Speaker 5: skeep goating them as being the most detrimental thing to
Speaker 5: public lands, when really cows and sheep out number horses
Speaker 5: fifty to one sometimes on public lands.
Speaker 2: They're just saying that the horses are grazing too much?
Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: And the percentages are tiny. Clear, I look this up
Speaker 1: and you'll know if this is accurate not. But I
Speaker 1: was just again trying to be a good interviewer, because
Speaker 1: Donald and I are going teaching ourselves to be really
Speaker 1: good interviewers. It looks, you know, the percentages of horses
Speaker 1: to livestock is minuscule, minuscule. How do they get away
Speaker 1: with blaming the loss of whatever I'm assuming is the
Speaker 1: feed to the horses if the number of cattle outnumber
Speaker 1: the horses by so much of a percentage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I know this is going to come as
Speaker 5: a huge shocker to you, but the government lies. What
Speaker 5: The BLM are an agency, government agency under the Department
Speaker 5: of the Interior, and they saw of make up a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of reasons for why the horses have to
Speaker 5: keep being rounded up. But really it comes back to
Speaker 5: the same reason the buffalo went extinct, or you know,
Speaker 5: the Native American Indians were put on reservations. It's no
Speaker 5: different to the wild West that it used to be.
Speaker 5: It's a land grab. It's let's get rid of everything
Speaker 5: that's inconvenient and not making us money. And that's their
Speaker 5: primary purpose they think for being. And it's just it's
Speaker 5: been an amazing thing in the last few years because
Speaker 5: there because of social media, there are now so many
Speaker 5: groups photographers that go out and photograph these wild horses,
Speaker 5: which are so beautiful, and I think most of the
Speaker 5: American public would rather see, you know, herds of picturesque
Speaker 5: horses that all have names now and you know, are
Speaker 5: very well known. And then and then the BLM comes
Speaker 5: and rounds up, you know, three thousand of them at
Speaker 5: a time, and it's heartbreaking for a lot of people.
Speaker 5: But there just doesn't seem to be anything that we
Speaker 5: can do. They have the law on their sides, and
Speaker 5: it happening.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy, man, because it seems like horses, mustangs,
Speaker 2: all of that. It seems so American, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It seems it's like it's like apple Pie
Speaker 2: almost the horse, you know what I mean, Cowboys, all
Speaker 2: of that stuff. And it's really interesting that the government's
Speaker 2: trying to round them.
Speaker 1: Up and take us into chapter two of the story
Speaker 1: just to just to go through it all. So then
Speaker 1: when they do talk us through the round up, they
Speaker 1: round up these wild horses using all using helicopters. I
Speaker 1: believe you're gonna tell us about it, and then they
Speaker 1: put them in these sort of holding pens that, as
Speaker 1: you can imagine, are not ideal conditions at all. So
Speaker 1: tell us about that part of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So they announce a round up, they ask for
Speaker 5: public comment, they ignore them all and then they come
Speaker 5: during a certain you know, they'll say, okay, this round
Speaker 5: up is going to take two weeks, and helicopters come
Speaker 5: and push all these round horses, all these wild horses
Speaker 5: into a trap which kind of has just burlap on
Speaker 5: either side, and they use a judas horse, which is
Speaker 5: really interesting that it's.
Speaker 1: Called judas horse. What's that.
Speaker 5: So they hold on to a tame horse who's trained
Speaker 5: to run into the trap, and when he starts running
Speaker 5: alongside the other horses, they all follow him in, which
Speaker 5: is why he's so I know he's a judas he's
Speaker 5: betrayed all his Yeah, he turns on them. So that's
Speaker 5: always interesting. But I mean, the roundups are horrific and brutal.
Speaker 5: A lot of the horses die or are a shot
Speaker 5: at the trap site for having any kind of impediment,
Speaker 5: like if they've can't see out of one eye, or
Speaker 5: they have you know, a broken knee, puffed up me.
Speaker 5: It's things they've been living out in the world and
Speaker 5: they were just chased by helicopter and managed to survive that,
Speaker 5: and then sadly they shoot them at the trap site
Speaker 5: for if they think they're unadoptable, and they're then taken
Speaker 5: to short term holding facilities which are all over the
Speaker 5: Western States, in every state, and they're kept there. Some
Speaker 5: are adopted out, but most tend to go to these
Speaker 5: long term holding facilities, which is yet another way for
Speaker 5: ranchers and cowboys to make money off these wild horses,
Speaker 5: because they get paid millions to have wild horses on
Speaker 5: their land or stockpile them or keep them in pens
Speaker 5: until they die. So it's a pretty sad life from
Speaker 5: the day.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm so confused.
Speaker 3: Why are they paid millions to house horses but not
Speaker 3: millions to take care of the horses. So you don't
Speaker 3: have to take care of the horse. All you have
Speaker 3: to do is house the horse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how's the horse? And you get paid a certain
Speaker 5: amount a day. And it really is a black hole
Speaker 5: that horses disappear into and there's very little way of
Speaker 5: finding out where they went or so.
Speaker 3: They could be turned into they could be slaughtered and
Speaker 3: turned into food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about the slaughter piece, Claire, Because Claire was
Speaker 1: telling me that the government has a program where they
Speaker 1: say you can adopt one of the horses and they'll
Speaker 1: actually pay you one thousand dollars to take on one
Speaker 1: of these animals. Yeah, but then they discovered that there's
Speaker 1: a loophole where people are quote unquote adopting them and
Speaker 1: then selling them for slaughter for meat in Mexico. Do
Speaker 1: I have that right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mexico and Canada. So yeah, that's exactly what happens.
Speaker 5: People come and they might take four or eight or
Speaker 5: twelve or sixteen, because you can adopt them in groups
Speaker 5: of four, so they get their entire family to each
Speaker 5: adopt four, bring them to their place, and then as
Speaker 5: soon as they get the title for the horse, and
Speaker 5: it means they own them, they take them to the
Speaker 5: local auction livestock auction and sell them from meat money,
Speaker 5: which is the price per pound that they're selling out
Speaker 5: at that time, and then they're shipped to either Mexico
Speaker 5: or Canada because Americas shut down horslaughter plants a long
Speaker 5: time ago, just because Americans decided we don't eat horses,
Speaker 5: their companion animals. They have helped us found this country
Speaker 5: and pull a plow and go into war with and
Speaker 5: we don't.
Speaker 2: Eat and we don't want them here anymore.
Speaker 1: Apparently, Yeah, I now clear explain to me the loophole
Speaker 1: how does if we have outlawed slaughter. But the loophole
Speaker 1: is that you can sell it to someone in Mexico
Speaker 1: who can.
Speaker 2: Slaughter it and you still get paid.
Speaker 1: You get one thousand dollars per horse to take it.
Speaker 2: Yes, they pay you to take care of it too,
Speaker 2: Am I correct?
Speaker 1: No, they're adopt it. Yeah, exactly, you can adopt I mean,
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Clear, you can literally take
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars per horse to adopt it and then
Speaker 1: turn around and sell it to slaughter in Mexico.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you sell it to a kill buyer. You
Speaker 5: sell it at a livestock auction, but it's usually going
Speaker 5: to be a kill buyer that buys up these large
Speaker 5: numbers of unhandled wild horses because there's not much other
Speaker 5: use for them, and then they will ship them in
Speaker 5: huge semi trucks across the border to Mexico where they
Speaker 5: are killed in the most horrifying way. So we won't
Speaker 5: even talk about that. It's too horrible to even think
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, when we come back, we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: quick break. That's all the bad news. When we come
Speaker 1: back after this break, we're gonna tell you what this
Speaker 1: angel of a human being sent from the heavens above,
Speaker 1: has dedicated her life to doing to save the animals.
Speaker 1: Will be right.
Speaker 2: Back and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're black with Claire Staples Claire one of the videos.
Speaker 1: So I want you to tell us all about the
Speaker 1: foundation you founded. I sent listeners to it already. You
Speaker 1: have to follow her on Instagram Skydog Sanctuary. Do I
Speaker 1: have that right?
Speaker 5: Yes? Correct, you will.
Speaker 1: You will be like my mom and I or wait,
Speaker 1: it's my mom and me Krista your friend christ By
Speaker 1: the way, you know this one thing about Christa is
Speaker 1: if you don't say the right me and I version,
Speaker 1: she corrects you.
Speaker 2: But there is no eye version, is what she said
Speaker 2: to us originally.
Speaker 1: No, there is. You just have to say. The trick
Speaker 1: she taught me is you you take out the name,
Speaker 1: so I would. I would say you have to join
Speaker 1: me in watching Skydog Sanctuary Instagram. So then I add
Speaker 1: my mom and I go, you have to join my
Speaker 1: mom and me? Right, you wouldn't say you have to
Speaker 1: join I. I think I got that right.
Speaker 5: I don't want to get in trouble.
Speaker 1: Chris has been lecturing me on that for twenty three years.
Speaker 1: But I think I finally.
Speaker 2: Got since I've known her, Yeah, every time.
Speaker 1: Because every she is shameless. If you don't say the
Speaker 1: right version, she corrects you and it's wrong. Since we're here,
Speaker 1: I always say it wrong. But now we're for in
Speaker 1: front of her friend Claire. We got to get it right.
Speaker 1: Join my mom and me in watching Skydog Sanctuary videos.
Speaker 1: The way you Claire is such a good story. Tell
Speaker 1: her you know every single one of these horses names,
Speaker 1: tell us about the foundation. And there was a viral
Speaker 1: video that I recommend. There's a there's an account called
Speaker 1: the Dodo, which I think focuses on on animal stories and.
Speaker 2: You have a few. You have a few stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dodo is a big fan of Claire. But
Speaker 1: talk about I just watched it and tears came to
Speaker 1: my eyes. This is kind of like a beautiful distillation
Speaker 1: of what Claire does. And tell the story of the
Speaker 1: of the mustang that was that you photographed, that was
Speaker 1: photographed jumping out of one of these pens and trying
Speaker 1: to escape, and then Claire was able to reunite him
Speaker 1: with one of his man Please don't give it away, Okay,
Speaker 1: sorry spoiler, but Claire tell the story, please, because this
Speaker 1: this is the kind of thing that Claire does, and
Speaker 1: it's detective work, and it's it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: Please the fact that you were able to and also
Speaker 2: last thing, the fact that you were able to put
Speaker 2: two and two together.
Speaker 3: Look, I look at horses. Them things all look alike.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it one hundred.
Speaker 2: I love. I think they're beautiful.
Speaker 1: They don't all look alike.
Speaker 2: Donald, I mean, yeah, some are darker than others. But
Speaker 2: like you put a white horse in front of me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like silver. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: All Right, Claire, Please tell the story of this beautiful mustang.
Speaker 5: That was just such an extraordinary thing for us, because actually,
Speaker 5: someone that does a lot of techie stuff sent to
Speaker 5: me a screenshot of us trending at number seven on
Speaker 5: YouTube or something like that that day, and I was
Speaker 5: just mind blown because I think I'm living in this
Speaker 5: little world of horse people. And then the fact that
Speaker 5: it had gone so viral, and that was a horse
Speaker 5: named Phoenix who it really just started with a photograph.
Speaker 5: I follow some of the advocacy groups and I saw
Speaker 5: this photograph of this distinctive horse jumping a seven foot
Speaker 5: panel after he'd been chased by helicopter, pushed in and
Speaker 5: his family was sort of looking up as he went
Speaker 5: over the fence, and I just thought, because it was
Speaker 5: my local corrals, which is like two hours away, I thought,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to go there and see if that
Speaker 5: horse survived, you know, is he there? And there he
Speaker 5: was with another horse that was in that video. It
Speaker 5: was his kind of lieutenant in the band. And I
Speaker 5: saw his mayor and then I inquired about him, and
Speaker 5: they told me that he was going to be released
Speaker 5: into the wild and he you know, because of his
Speaker 5: genetics and stuff. Anyway, months and months went by, and
Speaker 5: I used to go to the crowds and every time
Speaker 5: I would see him and tell him he's going to
Speaker 5: go out and be free again. And then one day, yeah,
Speaker 5: they was lying, Yeah, it's a common thread. But anyway,
Speaker 5: he was still there like a year later, and I
Speaker 5: asked about him because his friend had now gone and
Speaker 5: they'd sent his friend to Germany to a Mustang event
Speaker 5: and he was now available for adoption. So I adopted
Speaker 5: him because I was like, that horse wanted to be
Speaker 5: free more than any horse I've seen, Like he jumped
Speaker 5: like higher than any horse I've ever seen. So I
Speaker 5: was like, let's give him back his freedom. But I
Speaker 5: could never find his mayor. And it was I think
Speaker 5: a year and a half later. I always look on
Speaker 5: the internet adoptions and there she was. And I literally
Speaker 5: was like wait, and I was looking at the pictures
Speaker 5: of her and looking at her and looking at the pictures,
Speaker 5: I was like, it's her. How long?
Speaker 3: How long were you looking at? Like that's the question?
Speaker 3: Like it was, it's definitely not split. You had to
Speaker 3: freaking pay attention to things that you had to find again.
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, she has orange ears even though
Speaker 5: she's white, and orange knees, and she has this mark
Speaker 5: on her shoulder and her tail is like this. I mean,
Speaker 5: it really was like zooming in all the pictures, going
Speaker 5: I think that's her. And then when we brought her
Speaker 5: home and reunited her with Phoenix, we called her ghost.
Speaker 2: Ghosts yeahs because she was like a ghost.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Not only was she not only is she a white
Speaker 3: horse with which reminds you of like a ghost with
Speaker 3: a sheetoverer and everything like that.
Speaker 2: She's literally a ghost.
Speaker 3: After you adopted Phoenix, it's impossible to find ghosts.
Speaker 2: Literally. I thought she was disappeared. Yeah, gone, yeah.
Speaker 5: Because I looked for her at the corals and never
Speaker 5: found her there, so I was like, where the heck
Speaker 5: has she been, you know, suddenly to appear on the
Speaker 5: internet adoption so long afterwards, and their reunion was really beautiful.
Speaker 5: All of the families that we've reunited, it's been one
Speaker 5: of our most popular things. Even though it's a small
Speaker 5: fraction of what we do, it is something that has
Speaker 5: touched people's hearts. They think really.
Speaker 1: Deeply because this is something I didn't know, Claire until
Speaker 1: I spoke to you, But these these are these families
Speaker 1: stay together in the wild.
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. I was going
Speaker 2: to say, Can you talk about how to talk about that?
Speaker 2: How horses are like the bond is forever?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a male horse will have a group of mayors
Speaker 1: and then their children and they continue to hang together
Speaker 1: as a family, right.
Speaker 5: Well, they actually the males kick out the young cults,
Speaker 5: the boys at about two years old, because they don't
Speaker 5: want them competing with them within their family, which kind
Speaker 5: of it's good because it creates diversity. And then the
Speaker 5: young phillies will be stolen by other young stallions. So
Speaker 5: there's kind of a stallion in his mayor and they
Speaker 5: might be having children, but then those children go out
Speaker 5: and have their own family. But yeah, the bonds they
Speaker 5: form out there and they have their own little societies,
Speaker 5: and it's really we have we rescued one family. That's
Speaker 5: four generations of like a grandmother, her daughter, her daughter,
Speaker 5: her son, and they had stayed together. If a stallion
Speaker 5: stole one, they would all go with him. And it's
Speaker 5: just very cool to watch and be around them. They're
Speaker 5: such deep, deeply thinking and profoundly sentient beings, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's why the whole slaughter pipeline, I think is
Speaker 5: really hard to watch because you know, they know, you know,
Speaker 5: they know they're in a bad place. They've lost their freedom,
Speaker 5: their family and now their lives, and it's it's just
Speaker 5: a horrible it's a horrible underbelly that so. And I
Speaker 5: really do appreciate you having me on because there are
Speaker 5: so many you think everyone knows I know all.
Speaker 1: I love animals, did I love animals? Horses? I had
Speaker 1: no idea about this, And that's.
Speaker 3: Why I had no idea that the dopamine levels and
Speaker 3: horses was so high. Man Like, that's the we feel
Speaker 3: love on such levels because of the dopamine that we
Speaker 3: have in our body, right like that.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 3: And when you know, we don't ever look at other
Speaker 3: animals as unique and as special as that's because they
Speaker 3: don't have communication, or we don't look at them as
Speaker 3: intelligent and stuff like that. But to hear that these
Speaker 3: the bond is not it's a I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: There's something special about staying together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We make movies about that shit. All of the best
Speaker 2: movies in the world are how we stay together as
Speaker 2: a family. Nothing could break the family apart. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: to know that horses like this, it's really it's really,
Speaker 2: it's really like mind blowing. It's also inspiring, Like, you know.
Speaker 1: What Claire's creating is a really special sanctuary where all
Speaker 1: these animals that have been separated in the most brutal
Speaker 1: way can be brought together there.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. And I
Speaker 1: also want to segue into there's the animal reunification, the
Speaker 1: family reunification thing, which is so beautiful. But also a
Speaker 1: lot of the stories on your Instagram I noticed are
Speaker 1: how you and your team are rehabilitating these injured horses
Speaker 1: because obviously a lot of them come in really messed up,
Speaker 1: and some of them are blind, some of them have cancer,
Speaker 1: every every issue you can imagine a wild horse who's
Speaker 1: been in captivity in poor conditions might have. So talk
Speaker 1: about that, how you how you and the and the
Speaker 1: vets decide how much you can do when when when
Speaker 1: when when is an animal beyond your ability to help
Speaker 1: it and needs to be put down? Can you talk
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: Well also, and also talk about how like the you know,
Speaker 3: the illnesses and stuff like that, a normal rancher would
Speaker 3: just put down that animal right away and not give
Speaker 3: the animal a chance, and how.
Speaker 5: Saving them yep, and I do appreciate it. Is one
Speaker 5: thing we've worked really hard to establish a relationship with
Speaker 5: our local crows that round up these horses, because they
Speaker 5: do shoot a lot of horses for having small things
Speaker 5: which really aren't death sentence. And we have really appreciated
Speaker 5: the fact that they've now let us come and take
Speaker 5: special needs horses or seniors that might be euthanized. And
Speaker 5: we've just had such success with that, and I think
Speaker 5: it's really informed a lot of people because often euthanasia
Speaker 5: is the first place that let's go to or people
Speaker 5: go to and thinking that this horse has this or that,
Speaker 5: and a lot of the rehabs we've done have been
Speaker 5: kind of groundbreaking in showing other people. We took on
Speaker 5: this donkey Waldo and his hooves which are kind of
Speaker 5: supposed to like that they had grown all the way around,
Speaker 5: so he was kind of walking on his knuckles. And
Speaker 5: even when the vet's first one, they were like, Claire,
Speaker 5: I mean, this is you know, this is not what
Speaker 5: we expected. But we did a lot of research and
Speaker 5: we showed it to them. To be to be fair
Speaker 5: to that vet, he called a lot of people that
Speaker 5: were experts. They did these like two surgeries on his
Speaker 5: legs and got his feet and now he runs around.
Speaker 5: This donkey Waldo is so popular and it's he has
Speaker 5: now used that as a sort of test study and
Speaker 5: a case and it written a paper on it for
Speaker 5: other people to do the same on horses or donkeys
Speaker 5: that have the same issue. So those things are really
Speaker 5: meaningful to us because it's meant that we've actually done things,
Speaker 5: and they can be costly and it takes a lot
Speaker 5: of rehabbing, a lot of kind of personal care from
Speaker 5: the staff getting them back to normal, but then to
Speaker 5: see them live, these wonderful lives and blind horses, you know,
Speaker 5: be able to get around. And we've sometimes had a
Speaker 5: pen of blind horses all start running and they're running
Speaker 5: in between the trees, and you think, how is that
Speaker 5: possible that they you know, but they learn it in
Speaker 5: their mind. They mental map the whole thing, and they
Speaker 5: know where their water is.
Speaker 1: And they saw that video. I got tears in my eyes.
Speaker 1: You guys got to look for that video on her
Speaker 1: Instagram and it's a pen of a large pen of
Speaker 1: blind horses and they're all together and they're they're running
Speaker 1: so fast and Claire is narrating. She goes, you'd think
Speaker 1: that they would be in danger, but they have literally
Speaker 1: memorized every tree, everything that they could run into. It's
Speaker 1: so beautiful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very cool. So we do a lot
Speaker 5: of that. But also, you know, I think it's also
Speaker 5: with what Donald was saying about the families and the
Speaker 5: bonds they have, that was such an inconvenient truth for
Speaker 5: the BLM, because they want to portray these animals as livestock.
Speaker 5: They have a tag number. They are only useful as
Speaker 5: a tool to be used by people and to then
Speaker 5: rewrite that story and show through, you know, amazing evidence
Speaker 5: that these animals do have these bonds and family malise
Speaker 5: and love for each other. That's palpable and easy to see.
Speaker 5: It's been a very thing that the BLM really fought against.
Speaker 5: But now they've kind of put off their hands and
Speaker 5: go find that they have families, you know, and then
Speaker 5: other sanctuaries and other rescues have reunited families, which is
Speaker 5: the coolest thing because I think, you know, then we
Speaker 5: can recognize these animals as you know, who are we
Speaker 5: as men to say we're the only ones that love
Speaker 5: our children or we're the only ones that have deep bonds.
Speaker 5: And so it's it's cool that's been I've been really
Speaker 5: proud of that.
Speaker 1: And it's very spooky because all of these horses have
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's it's analogous to the
Speaker 1: Holocaust with the numbers on on on people's wrists that
Speaker 1: all of these horses when you watch the videos have
Speaker 1: government what the brands brand government brands And Claire was
Speaker 1: trying to explain to me when their hair grows out,
Speaker 1: you can't really read the brand, but she was saying,
Speaker 1: and they're kind of tricky to read anyway, what is that?
Speaker 1: It denotes where they were captured, right, and yeah it don't.
Speaker 5: It says you asked that the property of the US government,
Speaker 5: and then it gives them the year that they estimate
Speaker 5: they were born, and then where they were rounded up
Speaker 5: and attack number to identify them.
Speaker 2: Branded this or this is shaved into this branded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's branded. But when you watch the videos you'll
Speaker 1: see that because their hairs grow around a bit, it's
Speaker 1: a little hard to even decipher.
Speaker 2: You ever been branded?
Speaker 1: No, personally, No, I have not.
Speaker 3: They do it in college fraternities. Sometimes that shit gets infected.
Speaker 2: Man. That shit does not look good. Man. I know
Speaker 2: a couple of people that have been branded. They got
Speaker 2: that horseshoe on their arm. That ship don't look good. Bro,
Speaker 2: that shit hurts too well.
Speaker 1: I think we should do I was a real friend,
Speaker 1: I would be like I was infected for weeks. Donald,
Speaker 1: would would you be open to a fake doctor's real friends? Brand?
Speaker 2: In opposite world?
Speaker 1: Danel you. I think I'm good, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'll be there to supervised.
Speaker 3: I can hold somebody want to pay me that you
Speaker 3: want to pay me that money, I'll get that ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to pay you for a fake
Speaker 1: doctor's real friends. Was it was a volunteer project.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 6: As a representative my heart, I'm gonna say we do
Speaker 6: not condone Brandon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: On that show Yellowstone, they brand the life as people
Speaker 5: that are going to stay there for life. They give
Speaker 5: them the why on their chest, and well, I love it.
Speaker 1: I think you can imagine that Claire might like Yellowstone
Speaker 1: as she's dedicated her life to ranching.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to be Beth Bears, Beth Beth Bears,
Speaker 5: Beth Dutton. I don't think Beth Beth Bears is the
Speaker 5: sweetest woman in the world and very supportive of our
Speaker 5: calls and sponsors a horse. Beth Dutton on Yellowstone is
Speaker 5: a very she's She's a character.
Speaker 2: I've never watched the show.
Speaker 1: But Donald doesn't. But Donald doesn't watch most things that
Speaker 1: don't have Star Wars, Marvel.
Speaker 2: Well he Harrison Wards and yellow Stone.
Speaker 1: That's so that's a prequel. You might want to watch
Speaker 1: that prequal Yeah, you can pretend it's Hen Solo.
Speaker 3: I could pretend to Town Solo or Indiana Jones. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'd prefer not to. I would prefer to pretend that
Speaker 3: there are some black ranchers.
Speaker 2: There are yellow Ye who plays them? Who they get
Speaker 2: to play the black manches?
Speaker 5: Donald Richards doesn't then and Richards is he.
Speaker 1: Well, will you please google? I never thought, I asked,
Speaker 1: when you play Google the black actors who play the ranchers.
Speaker 1: Donald wants to be mad at them forgetting a role
Speaker 1: he could have gotten.
Speaker 2: That I could have gotten with Harrison Flord on Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Claire, tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: as Joel looks that up the charity aspects. I was
Speaker 1: explaining the audience that you do fundraise for individual causes
Speaker 1: for surgeries and stuff and and and but but but
Speaker 1: you and your husband pay for the majority of this.
Speaker 1: As I understand, you've you've built this nine thousand acre sanctuary, right,
Speaker 1: tell talk a little bit about how people can give
Speaker 1: and and and what they're actually giving. Four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it all came about I had a
Speaker 5: sort of epiphany at age fifty. I sort of looked
Speaker 5: around and looked at my life, and I'd spent that
Speaker 5: that part of my life believing in the things that
Speaker 5: people tell you will make you happy. You know, if
Speaker 5: you get to this weight, or you have this car,
Speaker 5: or you live in this place, or you have that boyfriend,
Speaker 5: and having had all those things, realizing that it wasn't
Speaker 5: as a happiness that was sustainable it, you know, it
Speaker 5: was very fleeting, and then you want another thing or
Speaker 5: another person or another place, and just kind of realizing that,
Speaker 5: you know, and also I'm in recovery, so getting back
Speaker 5: into sobriety and realizing that I really truly wanted to
Speaker 5: be of service and horses had been my deepest love
Speaker 5: and passion, you know, in my childhood and throughout my life.
Speaker 5: They'd kind of come back in and I just thought,
Speaker 5: you know, if I can take that passion I have
Speaker 5: and turn it into a life worth living, Like a
Speaker 5: purpose driven life is a book I read at the time,
Speaker 5: and I was like, that's really the key to happiness
Speaker 5: for human beings, being of service, having a purpose. So
Speaker 5: it really just shifted. I was like, Okay, how do
Speaker 5: I do this? And I had some horses at the time,
Speaker 5: but I thought there are so many need and so
Speaker 5: many wild horses that I'm reading about the plight to
Speaker 5: wild horses and how many were in the slaughter pipeline.
Speaker 5: I just kind of went to my husband and went,
Speaker 5: We're going to need a bigger ranch, and the famous ruds,
Speaker 5: we're going to need a bigger ranch.
Speaker 1: This is nine thousand acres. That's not a small ranch.
Speaker 5: And if I have understood what nine thousand acres look like,
Speaker 5: I might have had some paws.
Speaker 2: But I was about to say, like you have to
Speaker 2: did you have to tear down tree? Like there's you did?
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what a nine thousand acre ranch
Speaker 3: would look like either, but that's.
Speaker 2: A lot of maintenance. I do. I do know that.
Speaker 2: And then you have like two landscaping right, just got
Speaker 2: to be outrageous. And then you have all of the
Speaker 2: horse a tack and field that you have to purchase
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like hey.
Speaker 1: And now, and all of them, the special needs horses,
Speaker 1: a lot of them they need, they need incredible amount
Speaker 1: of vet help.
Speaker 3: Like you could be I don't care if you're rich.
Speaker 3: You gotta have some type of support coming in. You
Speaker 3: can't sustain this type of lifestyle like this is like
Speaker 3: buying kids times you know you need.
Speaker 2: Shoot, I don't know any horses you got. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Though. It was my point. Let's take
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. How many
Speaker 1: do you have on the property.
Speaker 5: We have three hundred equines. Two hundred and thirty of
Speaker 5: them are horses wild horses, and the rest are mules
Speaker 5: or donkeys BLM donkeys. And we have two z brands
Speaker 5: as well, two babys and some zonkeys, which has a
Speaker 5: cross between a zebraander donkey.
Speaker 1: I love a sonkey, I love a zonkee.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 5: My husband was amazing in helping me set up the
Speaker 5: whole thing, and I said to him, if you help
Speaker 5: me set this up, I promise after year three I
Speaker 5: will be fully self supporting through my own contributions, which
Speaker 5: is a thing that we say in AA And I
Speaker 5: kind of got there in eighteen months because I just
Speaker 5: I'm one of these people that when I put my
Speaker 5: heart and soul and energy into something, I want to
Speaker 5: be the best that I can be. And it just
Speaker 5: kept growing, and especially actually during the pandemic, I realized
Speaker 5: that our social media was really becoming this place where
Speaker 5: people were coming to watch these videos of these horses
Speaker 5: who ironically were being released to being wild and free
Speaker 5: when we were all trapped in our houses and living
Speaker 5: in fear and we didn't want to watch the news.
Speaker 5: So people were saying you know, I was getting these
Speaker 5: emails from people saying, you know, we watch I watched
Speaker 5: this with the kids in my class in the morning,
Speaker 5: you know, school teachers or in nursing homes, and we
Speaker 5: watch your video in the morning. We talk about the horses,
Speaker 5: and it is just sometimes we watch it ten times
Speaker 5: on a loop to be in nature and to be
Speaker 5: around these horses, and we cry and we laugh with joy.
Speaker 5: And I sundly realized, Wow, this is something the people
Speaker 5: that are on the journey with us there. It's a
Speaker 5: way that they can emote, you know, kind of like
Speaker 5: a good movie. You know, you want to feel all
Speaker 5: those things. And I think they get so attached to
Speaker 5: the horses, and when we lose one, for example, they'll
Speaker 5: still cry about it, you know. If I mention the
Speaker 5: name and it's it's been a beautiful journey for that.
Speaker 5: And I sundly realized I had a responsibility, not just
Speaker 5: I wasn't just helping horses. We were kind of helping
Speaker 5: people get through and me myself, it was like good
Speaker 5: for my mental health. So the videos got longer and
Speaker 5: the stories got longer, and it just sort of became
Speaker 5: more of a thing and grew beyond my wilder streets.
Speaker 1: And so when you fundraise on the Instagram or or
Speaker 1: your other channels, often is it for a specific horse
Speaker 1: like this horse needs this surgery if you want to contribute,
Speaker 1: is that the idea.
Speaker 5: Often we only have a fundraise when a horse is
Speaker 5: coming to us, and we are so incredibly well supported.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm so thankful that people it's really their
Speaker 5: way of showing their love for the horses you know,
Speaker 5: that inspire them and that they love and care for
Speaker 5: and they our supporters have been incredible. So we tend
Speaker 5: to fund raised one a horse comes. We rarely have to.
Speaker 5: We have a vet fund where we have a platform
Speaker 5: called Patreon. Patreon where people go on and you can
Speaker 5: be on different tiers, and that's where a lot of
Speaker 5: our funds come for for our vet fund, our hay fund,
Speaker 5: fencing fund. So that's just things that are generally going on.
Speaker 5: But yeah, our vet Belts are massive, you know, because
Speaker 5: we take a lot of horses.
Speaker 2: You can horses be adopted from you guys.
Speaker 5: We have tried very hard to focus on the horses
Speaker 5: that we take, being ambassadors for the amount of horses
Speaker 5: that are in need, so people will because of us.
Speaker 5: You know, I've helped so many people pull horses out
Speaker 5: of the slaughter pipeline for them to rescue or from
Speaker 5: the BLM coals. I'll help them go there and do
Speaker 5: their paperwork and you know, tell them what they need
Speaker 5: to do. So we haven't adopted out up until. Like,
Speaker 5: what we've done a lot is work with other rescues
Speaker 5: that do have adoption arms that are great, and we've
Speaker 5: helped them save ten or twenty horses out of the
Speaker 5: source of pipe and I think we've rescued about two
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty additional horses that then got adopted out
Speaker 5: through other rescues. It's just I think I'm not a
Speaker 5: very good foster.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, film you feel all the time.
Speaker 1: What's amazing about Claire is that she knows every single
Speaker 1: one of these horses names by sight. And she told
Speaker 1: me that sometimes she'll get it wrong and on the
Speaker 1: Instagram videos and people will start correcting her. That's not Snow,
Speaker 1: that's that's Cedar.
Speaker 5: Yes, totally, and it's extraordinary because I'm like, that's a sorrel,
Speaker 5: which is a red horse like in the distance with
Speaker 5: a blaze how on. But I think they take it
Speaker 5: very seriously, and they're like, you know, that's not Jalapino.
Speaker 5: That's so he's like here has one white sock on
Speaker 5: his back left, and I'm going, what.
Speaker 1: But it is amazing that you know that you can
Speaker 1: that you know the names of all those horses.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't remember the names of any people. But yeah,
Speaker 5: Wh'll say, I don't know why. I guess because of
Speaker 5: all of the stuff we go through at the beginning
Speaker 5: when we take them in, you know, and I named
Speaker 5: most of them, which is really fun.
Speaker 2: I can bond with them when they come in too.
Speaker 3: When you brought when you brought Phoenix home, just you
Speaker 3: know how scared Phoenix was and how you coaxed them
Speaker 3: into come on in.
Speaker 2: It's all right, don't worry. But it's all right, baby,
Speaker 2: it's all right.
Speaker 3: And finally this, you know, the horse is now healthy
Speaker 3: and and has grown, you know, the muscles are back
Speaker 3: on its back, you know. And that was then just
Speaker 3: in time for that beautify, just in time for Shorty
Speaker 3: to show up.
Speaker 1: Shorty to show up. Then Shorty named Ghost shows up
Speaker 1: and he's.
Speaker 2: Like, like, look at me, I've been working out, baby,
Speaker 2: Let's go for a walk.
Speaker 1: So sweet, Well, Claire tell anyone who's listening if they
Speaker 1: want to contribute or first of all, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: to go to sky Dog Sanctuary the Instagram account. You
Speaker 1: can also put that into YouTube. You'll see. That's where
Speaker 1: I saw the Dodo videos, which are very moving. But Claire,
Speaker 1: for those that are that want to contribute to the
Speaker 1: Patreon when you tell them where to go to do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So our Patreon is just patreon dot com stroke
Speaker 5: Skydog Sanctuary. We have a YouTube channel. We also have
Speaker 5: a website that actually is Skydog ranch dot org and
Speaker 5: you can donate through that. You can donate through any
Speaker 5: of our social media platforms, or join us on Patreon
Speaker 5: where you see a lot of behind the scenes videos
Speaker 5: and I show a lot on there, and I talk
Speaker 5: much more openly on Patreon to everyone, and I mean,
Speaker 5: they're keep their amazing.
Speaker 1: You went in for a second. I think you meant backslash.
Speaker 1: Is that what we say, guys, it would be it
Speaker 1: would be patreon dot com backslash Skydog.
Speaker 5: Sanctuary, I said, stroke, I did.
Speaker 1: That's very English of you. We don't say that here.
Speaker 2: We do say that here, but it means something else.
Speaker 1: Donald, Please be don't be inappropriate in front.
Speaker 2: Of I wasn't being inappropriate.
Speaker 1: We managed to get through the whole episode with stroking.
Speaker 2: Your ego without stroking your ego trying in front of
Speaker 2: I wasn't making different.
Speaker 5: I swear like a sailor, and I was laughing. I
Speaker 5: watched the last podcast you did, I Think, and you
Speaker 5: were talking about below Deck, and I was laughing because
Speaker 5: I think my entire management skills for managing my crew,
Speaker 5: because I have a chief stew who's my equal manager,
Speaker 5: and then the equine staff, and then the guys who
Speaker 5: are kind of the debt team. And I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm always telling them, you just have to watch Below Deck.
Speaker 5: You'll understand why.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 1: educate your staff to go watch Below Deck because they
Speaker 1: all get they can hand up with each other encourage.
Speaker 5: Well, they're on a ranch in the middle of no
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're all honking up with each other. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Do you think they're all on farmers dot com Farmers.
Speaker 1: That would be a good by the way, we should
Speaker 1: make a below Deck style reality show, but about Claire's staff, it.
Speaker 5: Would be I don't know, I'd.
Speaker 1: Sandy, Yeah, you would, you are Sandy. You're a badass woman,
Speaker 1: Captain Sandy.
Speaker 3: But you can literally like if you do work as
Speaker 3: a ranch and you could literally be like, I can
Speaker 3: go on farmers only dot com because I've always wondered,
Speaker 3: I've always wondered, what are the qualifications.
Speaker 2: I know it says farmers.
Speaker 1: Qualifications are you're down to get up at four in
Speaker 1: the morning and milk cows as a wife.
Speaker 2: That is it.
Speaker 1: Joella is not going to be on farmers only dot com.
Speaker 2: Be hooking up on farmers only dot com. I hear
Speaker 2: it's a good hookup place.
Speaker 1: You've heard through the gravevine in Los Angeles that farmers
Speaker 1: only it is a good hookups.
Speaker 5: But you know, if I ever lose my husband for
Speaker 5: other reason, for some reason, I would go there because
Speaker 5: they are going to have skills to they'll know what
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 1: But also clear will you will you please help me
Speaker 1: explain to Donald that it's about choosing the lifestyle of
Speaker 1: being in bumble fuck and getting up early and working.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a lifestyle.
Speaker 1: A typical female or male who's trying to meet someone
Speaker 1: on there who's not in that lifestyle Farmer's only. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're also taught, Okay, let's say you're a nice Jewish gallon.
Speaker 3: No, let's say you're on j date and you're not Jewish.
Speaker 3: Get the fuck off, right, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't say that. I think you're allowed to
Speaker 1: not be Jewish on JD. I don't know the rules, Daniel.
Speaker 2: Good. But Farmers only strictly for farmers can you.
Speaker 1: Be non Jewish on JAD eight? Or do they check
Speaker 1: your foreskin? Can you donald Farmers only? You wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to match with someone and be like, Hey, I really
Speaker 1: am crazy about you. But the whole milking cows in
Speaker 1: the morning thing. I live in Manhattan, Oh.
Speaker 5: My god, it's too funny to imagine. I might have
Speaker 5: to go on there just to find out what's going on.
Speaker 5: Should die?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Claire, you should just do a little
Speaker 1: recon for us and come back. Well, all right, Dane,
Speaker 1: go ahead, it's going on.
Speaker 4: I'm thrilled to report that on jay D eight, individuals
Speaker 4: do not have to be Jewish in order.
Speaker 1: To join Dale.
Speaker 4: You could join and on Farmers only. It isn't just
Speaker 4: for farmers, it's for anyone interested in living a more
Speaker 4: rural lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something you're gonna fall in
Speaker 1: love with someone who's gonna be like you're you're down
Speaker 1: to milk those cows at five thirty?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Like what now, that's my am I supposed to end
Speaker 1: up at five thirty if I was up till two
Speaker 1: am watching Below Deck men.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe that's what below Deck down Under is all about.
Speaker 5: Maybe they Yeah, I don't know what they're doing on them.
Speaker 1: They're in Australia. Claire's trying to make sexual innuendo. Donald
Speaker 1: Donald has a bad impression influenced.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words.
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Speaker 1: Okay, today, Joel pulled a couple of fan letters that
Speaker 1: she's gonna read to us now.
Speaker 6: So we get a ton of letters that are not
Speaker 6: asking us for anything.
Speaker 2: They don't want, they don't want to try to be
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 6: Letter Joelle sharing some love, and I was like, how
Speaker 6: do we honor these people who are just sending us
Speaker 6: in these such lovely thoughts? So here we go. Our
Speaker 6: first letter comes from Matt mulvaney. It's from the UK.
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, not Mick mulvaney, right, not mickt.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So this is actually a question, but it's a fun question.
Speaker 2: I have a question that I've been wondering for a while.
Speaker 2: This is the question. I'm listening.
Speaker 1: All right, looks like at the beginning, like you're looking
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Speaker 2: How did you know?
Speaker 1: Ahead? Oh my god, Donald Donald's looking down like he's
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Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So the beginning of the series, JD has the apartment,
Speaker 6: but when Carla and Turk move in, it's JD that
Speaker 6: has to move out.
Speaker 3: Why, well, no, JD and Turk didn't. JD and Turk
Speaker 3: have the apartment right now? JD has the apartment, but
Speaker 3: you did.
Speaker 1: Why Why don't y'all move out and find a new place?
Speaker 1: Why do you evictim JD?
Speaker 3: They don't. JD decides to move out. He's living with
Speaker 3: them for the longest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why can't they get their own place? JD's
Speaker 1: got a nice apartment.
Speaker 2: Yo, That I don't know.
Speaker 3: JD decided to move out on his own, man, that
Speaker 3: I do not understand.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you don't have an answer for you, but.
Speaker 2: We because it's good for storytelling.
Speaker 1: Whenever the answer is donald and I didn't come up
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Speaker 6: All right, so our next question comes from Mary Chandler.
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Speaker 6: I've been listening to the podcast since the very beginning.
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Speaker 6: I'm doing better now, and this summer I've been frantically
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Speaker 6: that void. I just wanted to say that I appreciate
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Speaker 2: It's been healing for me.
Speaker 6: It's incredible that you all met and care about each other.
Speaker 6: It really comes through in the show. I could go
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Speaker 2: Cheers Mary, Mary.
Speaker 1: That's so sweet.
Speaker 2: Mary.
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Speaker 1: Claire Staples, You're an incredible human being. You are inspiration
Speaker 1: and I love that. I am so moved also that
Speaker 1: this part of this spark came out of your recovery
Speaker 1: and wanting to be of service to our country and humanity.
Speaker 1: And I just think you're an extraordinary person. You know,
Speaker 1: when they do those CNN Extraordinary people things.
Speaker 5: I think we should be abmitting.
Speaker 1: This is our version. You're our first You're our first
Speaker 1: candidate for it's way more fun. Yeah, By the way
Speaker 1: Donald that we should do that. We should have extraordinary
Speaker 1: people like Claire on and then we'll do our CNN
Speaker 1: version of Extraordinary Person of the Year. Yes, I love it,
Speaker 1: but you're the first guest. You're no offense, no offense to,
Speaker 1: no offense to Cody. But uh, you did.
Speaker 2: Great by most Americans, Cody.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Cody, we we love you, but you're not
Speaker 1: a candidate for Special Human.
Speaker 2: Of the Year. And it's only because you don't like
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's one of the main reasons that you can
Speaker 1: everyone well, believe it or not, Cody, Cody's.
Speaker 2: I didn't like Taylor Swift for six days.
Speaker 1: So if you know this, uh, Clara, but the haters
Speaker 1: are gonna hate, hate, hate, hate.
Speaker 2: Hate, tell it. I told us that, and it was
Speaker 2: I always forget what the haters are going to do.
Speaker 1: And I know they're gonna mind.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna hate.
Speaker 1: Shake it off and everybody, everybody, We're gonna end on
Speaker 1: that note. If the haters hate, shake it up.
Speaker 7: Five six stories that show we made about a bunch
Speaker 7: of talks and nurses in Canada who love me.
Speaker 1: I said, here's the stories that all should know.
Speaker 7: So gather round you here, our gather round you here,
Speaker 7: our scotty
Speaker 1: My show is, and no