Speaker 1: Hey guys, what is up?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Guiltyest Charge Podcast, presented by the Chargers
Speaker 2: Podcast Network. My name is Steven and I am the
Speaker 2: host as always, and joining me today is my guy Tyler.
Speaker 1: Tyler, what some man? How are you doing this evening?
Speaker 3: I'm doing it fantastic. And I just realized today that
Speaker 3: I am seeing Metallica at Sofi Stadium this weekend. A
Speaker 3: bucket list item for me. So even if the game's
Speaker 3: not great, the concert is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Metallica.
Speaker 2: Our guy Argin went to see them in New York
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. I'm very jealous. I would
Speaker 2: love to go see Metallica. You know, Metallica was super
Speaker 2: big when my oldest brother was growing up. I think
Speaker 2: I've said this before, but my first CD was a
Speaker 2: Green Day CD. My second one was a Metallica CD
Speaker 2: my brother got me or my birthday. And you know,
Speaker 2: the the return of Metallica courtesy of Stranger Things has
Speaker 2: been really really strong, I think, and it's been fun
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been awesome. It's a bucket list thing for me.
Speaker 3: I wanted to do the one hundred thousand people in
Speaker 3: Germany sort of concert, but SOFI Studio not bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad at all.
Speaker 2: All right, So we have a busy show playing for
Speaker 2: you guys, of course, as we always do. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have some final takeaways from the Chargers preseason game against
Speaker 2: the Saints, and then we're gonna kind of look ahead
Speaker 2: to this upcoming weekend against the forty nine Ers that'll
Speaker 2: be happening on Friday night. So we kind of wanted
Speaker 2: to make some adjustments from our show last week, where
Speaker 2: last week was really heavy on the takeaways from the
Speaker 2: previous game. Today we're gonna do a little bit more
Speaker 2: stuff on the future, you know, upcoming matchup with the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers in terms of things we want to
Speaker 2: see change, things we want to see improve, and some
Speaker 2: other stuff like that. So I'm excited to dive in today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, going to be all and hopefully the game's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday night at seven o'clock. Don't love that, but
Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is. That being said
Speaker 2: before we get started. Of course, Tyler and I are
Speaker 2: fans of the team, just like you guys listening. We're
Speaker 2: very fortunate to have this platform and we're very grateful
Speaker 2: for it. But the opinions that we express on this
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Speaker 2: Channel are not always reflective of the opinions of the
Speaker 2: Chargers organization themselves. At the end of the day, we
Speaker 2: are independent content creators and we're very happy to be
Speaker 2: here and express these opinions that we have on tonight's show.
Speaker 2: All right, Tyler, let's dive in here again. We'll do
Speaker 2: kind of one big takeaway each of us. We'll do
Speaker 2: hand out some game balls like we did last week
Speaker 2: to Darius Davis and Andrew Farmers. So I'm curious to
Speaker 2: see who the choices are this week. But you know,
Speaker 2: we've had some time to reflect, look at the data,
Speaker 2: look at the film, Tyler, what is your biggest takeaway
Speaker 2: from the Chargers in Saints preseason game?
Speaker 3: It was very different to find a true takeaway for
Speaker 3: that game because there wasn't a side of the ball
Speaker 3: that was, you know, particularly dominant or particularly bad, And
Speaker 3: there wasn't a player that had an overwhelmingly positive or
Speaker 3: overwhelmingly negative day. And even the players that you might
Speaker 3: think you know didn't have such a great day, they
Speaker 3: had a great game the previous game. So is it
Speaker 3: really a takeaway to pick apart their game after just
Speaker 3: having a really good game, and yes I'm kind of
Speaker 3: talking about East and Stick there. What stood out to
Speaker 3: me then after watching everything all the way through and
Speaker 3: I kind of quote unquote blame Jordan McFadden here on
Speaker 3: this one. What stood out was the resilience of young
Speaker 3: first and second year players on this team, whether that's
Speaker 3: between last game to this game or within the game itself.
Speaker 3: And I'll start with Jordan McFadden, who you know. I
Speaker 3: don't think he had a bad debut by any means
Speaker 3: against the Rams, but it wasn't a great game from him.
Speaker 3: After watching things back through and watching the film in
Speaker 3: the All twenty two, Jordan McFadden had a really really
Speaker 3: solid outing. I was pleasantly surprised. I can't tell from
Speaker 3: the broadcast angle, but you'll be able to watch him
Speaker 3: again and kind of focus on him and some of
Speaker 3: the interior play. He had a really really good game.
Speaker 3: So his bounce back from first game to this game
Speaker 3: was fantastic. Quentin Johnston did not have a great first debut,
Speaker 3: but then they put him back in the game and
Speaker 3: they gave him that last shot, great touchdown, and there
Speaker 3: was bounce back just within that game, and what do
Speaker 3: you see. What would the difference have been if they
Speaker 3: didn't let him do that at the end of that
Speaker 3: first game. I don't know. Maybe he wouldn't be very
Speaker 3: confident in this game. You can't quantify this, and he
Speaker 3: had thirty something yards or whatever, but you could tell
Speaker 3: there was just more confidence in the way he was playing,
Speaker 3: attacking the football. Obviously he caught every pass. The resilience
Speaker 3: that he showed was fantastic. Darius Davis muffs a punt
Speaker 3: early in this game after having a great first week,
Speaker 3: but then Ah muffs a punt this game. That's very
Speaker 3: defeating and it could get to him instead. On their
Speaker 3: final scoring drive, he has three catches, two of them
Speaker 3: on third down, and they were not easy. They were
Speaker 3: very clutch third down catches on that final drive and
Speaker 3: they scored partially because of him. Dayon Henley J. T.
Speaker 3: Woods could have had a better start to the game.
Speaker 3: I think there's some plays that they would like to
Speaker 3: have back, but they performed so well after that that
Speaker 3: we're not talking about the mistakes that they had made.
Speaker 3: We're talking about good games from these guys. You know,
Speaker 3: whether it's tackles, passes, broken up sacks, etc. Stops. Both
Speaker 3: those guys recovered from maybe not a great start to
Speaker 3: the game, but they really started to find themselves and rebound.
Speaker 3: And so to me, there was no amazing standout play
Speaker 3: or player or whatever from the game, but I really
Speaker 3: appreciated the way that each of these guys battled as
Speaker 3: very young players, and it just shows that, look, these
Speaker 3: guys are going to have to play at some point.
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys are going to have to play,
Speaker 3: but most of them are our depth guys or the
Speaker 3: second guy or the third guy or whatever. They're going
Speaker 3: to have to play. And to see that they went
Speaker 3: out there and had some mistakes, took their lumps, whatever,
Speaker 3: but fought back. I think that's really the takeaway for
Speaker 3: me is the resilience of these very very young players.
Speaker 3: They're going to have to play. You know, maybe they
Speaker 3: won't play a ton to start, but guys get hurt,
Speaker 3: they're going to have to play. And seeing these guys
Speaker 3: rebound from the last game to this game or within
Speaker 3: this game was fantastic. And there were many first and
Speaker 3: second year players who had like just have been great.
Speaker 3: Zion Johnson is awesome, but he's just he's just been really, really,
Speaker 3: really good in these last couple of games. I love
Speaker 3: seeing these guys bounce back and really speak to their
Speaker 3: character and I love their resilience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the way that you put that. And
Speaker 2: you know, Jordan mcfannan to me, was definitely a standout
Speaker 2: after watching the tape, and like you mentioned, you can
Speaker 2: kind of get a sense for the run game and
Speaker 2: you can always tell when like the pocket is not
Speaker 2: super firm upfront, but it's really difficult to gauge how
Speaker 2: a guard or a center is really playing without being
Speaker 2: able to watch that end zone view. And Jordan mcfannon
Speaker 2: I thought was outstanding. I mean he allowed zero pressures
Speaker 2: on Pro Football Focus, which sometimes can be misleading. You know,
Speaker 2: there's yes, there's sometimes where PFF pressure or not pressure
Speaker 2: can kind of go the other way. And you know,
Speaker 2: they do have their statistic which is like, even if
Speaker 2: you don't give up zero pressures, like, it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you're always winning your reps. But I thought Jordan mcfaannen
Speaker 2: won a lot of his reps and there were several
Speaker 2: times where he got isolated against Brian Brazi, who was
Speaker 2: a you know borderline first round pick for the Saints,
Speaker 2: very talented pass rusher, you know, defensive tackle type. Malcolm
Speaker 2: Roach is a quality defensive tackle who's going to play
Speaker 2: a lot for them. He got isolated against him. There
Speaker 2: were some really high level cutoff blocks in the run
Speaker 2: game that I saw from Jordan McFadden. I was very,
Speaker 2: very pleased with the way that he played last week.
Speaker 2: You know, they're obviously the two holding penalties, just some
Speaker 2: things that I think needed to be cleaned up with
Speaker 2: his hand technique. But I thought the way that he
Speaker 2: responded this week was fantastic. And you know, I still
Speaker 2: think that his best long term position is at guard.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens in terms of some future flexibility
Speaker 2: down the road of his.
Speaker 1: Or Jamari Saliers or something like that.
Speaker 2: But for the Chargers to have him rounding into shape
Speaker 2: heading into the season, and we talked about Zach Bailey
Speaker 2: last week, you know, this team has two really quality
Speaker 2: backup guards that they can kind of have confidence in
Speaker 2: heading into the season. And that's with two great starters
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, Zion Johnson, Jamuriy Slier, Zion Man. He's
Speaker 2: he's just kind of on a different planet in the preseason,
Speaker 2: like it is what you expect, right for a guy
Speaker 2: of his pedigree and the way that he played last season.
Speaker 2: He's been dominant in his snaps. It's only been I
Speaker 2: think twenty seven is the total number something like that
Speaker 2: through two preseason games, but super clean. Just like dominant
Speaker 2: in the run game. We're seeing him them use him
Speaker 2: more as a polar in the run game and it's
Speaker 2: just fantastic to watch. So I had a similar thought
Speaker 2: process of how to approach this show because I wanted
Speaker 2: to highlight some of the twenty twenty two draft class
Speaker 2: outside of Zion and Jamari, who were starters last year,
Speaker 2: were heavy contributors. But we've really seen Isaiah Spiller take
Speaker 2: very positive steps in this preseason.
Speaker 1: You know, he had the one big run which.
Speaker 2: Really showed off the kind of balance and patience that
Speaker 2: we saw at Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: He's really coming into his own right now. JT.
Speaker 2: Woods, who you just mentioned, has had some really good
Speaker 2: moments in the preseason, you know, outside of the penalty,
Speaker 2: I think he's been pretty solid so far. And then
Speaker 2: Dean Leonard I think has been fantastic. He's really taken
Speaker 2: a pretty sizable step forward in his development this summer
Speaker 2: in general. He had a pass breakup that was really
Speaker 2: like high level stuff today or not today, excuse me,
Speaker 2: on Sunday. And it's a play that we've seen a
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel Junior do quite a bit where he's kind
Speaker 2: of in that border line flat, you know, deep whole
Speaker 2: shot kind of area, and Dean Leonard just booked it
Speaker 2: and ran and leaped and got his hand on a
Speaker 2: football and had a really nice pass breakup. He had
Speaker 2: a couple of run stops. He's really active in that regard.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate the way that he's playing the run
Speaker 2: right now. So you mentioning the twenty twenty one class
Speaker 2: and some of these other guys, like I think the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two class is really starting to take shape
Speaker 2: right now in a very positive way for the Chargers.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought up Dean Leonard. He was
Speaker 2: so close to being the game ball guy for me.
Speaker 3: I almost feel like I could give him like an
Speaker 3: off season ball because of how he's performed throughout the
Speaker 3: entire offseason. It hasn't been like one specific game where
Speaker 3: he has like, oh five pass breakers or something like
Speaker 3: he did in training camp. That one day. But he's
Speaker 3: been so good and just seeing him play the run,
Speaker 3: play the pass, pass breakups, great on special teams. I
Speaker 3: said at the last time we talked about this game,
Speaker 3: I think Dean Leonard is the player. I've been the
Speaker 3: most wrong about the about face that he's done. Now.
Speaker 3: He hasn't played meaningful regular season snaps. It's not like
Speaker 3: he's out there and he's going against Justin Jefferson in
Speaker 3: Week two or whatever or week three. Excuse me, it's
Speaker 3: not like that's happened yet. But what he's done with
Speaker 3: almost no experience in college actually playing legitimate college football
Speaker 3: to basically like four days into camp last year where
Speaker 3: he was knocking everything down. What they've done, Derek Ansley,
Speaker 3: Brandon Stalely, all these guys, what they've done with him
Speaker 3: is incredible. His development's awesome. I can't wait to see
Speaker 3: where he goes from here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think my biggest takeaway from this performance, though, which
Speaker 2: I'll dive into here, is the way that tu Lee
Speaker 2: twe Polow two played against mostly Trevor Penning.
Speaker 1: I don't think I saw him flip sides very much
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Trevor Penning, a first round pick, pedigree kind of guy
Speaker 2: who didn't play a ton as a rookie but got
Speaker 2: to play, you know, down the back half of their season.
Speaker 1: And played well.
Speaker 2: And Thorn, who's one of the biggest offensive line gurus
Speaker 2: in the in on social media, is pretty high on
Speaker 2: Trevor Penning. Obviously, he's another duke and Manny Weather guy.
Speaker 2: So Trevor Penning has some legitimate like chops Tom and
Speaker 2: there was there was a really great battle between those
Speaker 2: two in their limited action. I would have loved to
Speaker 2: see some extended drives happen, just to see that matchup
Speaker 2: really come to fruition.
Speaker 1: But you know, two Ley got him on.
Speaker 2: The run stuff on the run stuff obviously, which was
Speaker 2: a fantastic rep Tooley had another pressure as well, and
Speaker 2: there was another time where Trevor got him on the
Speaker 2: ground on a.
Speaker 1: Kind of a too.
Speaker 2: He tried to turn the corner on him. But overall,
Speaker 2: like the early returns on two Lee, twee p below
Speaker 2: to have been so positive and I was pretty high
Speaker 2: on him. I felt like heading into this, heading into
Speaker 2: training camp, but he's really exceeded my expectations and I
Speaker 2: think the way that he can defend the run is
Speaker 2: really going to elevate his floor and give the charters
Speaker 2: an edge three situation that we haven't really seen so
Speaker 2: far under Brandon Stay. And I think just the effort
Speaker 2: and the motor that he always plays with is such
Speaker 2: a great standout. But I think it's more than just
Speaker 2: like he's playing hard, like he's really setting the edge
Speaker 2: at the proper times. He's being aggressive after tackles for
Speaker 2: loss at the proper times. He got Trevor Penning on
Speaker 2: a cross chop this week, So it's just like the
Speaker 2: refinement is really coming along at at a higher pace
Speaker 2: than I would have thought. And I think he can
Speaker 2: be a really disruptive factor for the Chargers this year.
Speaker 2: And I'm really excited to see what Brandon Stay can
Speaker 2: do with you know, kind of like the NASCAR packages
Speaker 2: with Morgan Fox, Truley, Joey Bosa and Klue Mac and
Speaker 2: I think you can really just pin their ears back
Speaker 2: and cause havoc and so, like I mentioned, the early
Speaker 2: returns for Tully have exceeding my expectations, and I think
Speaker 2: like the comfort level right now with him being an
Speaker 2: instant impact factor, have really grown throughout the preseason and
Speaker 2: trained camp, and I think that you know his ability
Speaker 2: is is just going to continue to get better and better.
Speaker 2: And he talked about this after the game with Eric Smith,
Speaker 2: where he's just always trying to learn. You know, he'll
Speaker 2: come off to the sideline and ask Joey Bosa Khalil
Speaker 2: Mack like, hey, like, what did you see from this?
Speaker 2: What did you see from that? What do you see
Speaker 2: from the offensive tackle? Like it just he's absorbing so
Speaker 2: much knowledge from the edge room and he gets to
Speaker 2: go up against Rashawn Slater and practice every day like
Speaker 2: and Trey Pipkins for sure. Yeah, And it's just like
Speaker 2: a wealth of knowledge that he can absorb. And I've
Speaker 2: been so happy with how he played. And you know,
Speaker 2: if you hadn't taken your takeaway the way that you
Speaker 2: did that, you know, the twenty twenty two draft class
Speaker 2: would have been my thing. But had to bring up
Speaker 2: Tuley in the way that he played after here in
Speaker 2: your takeaway there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been awesome. I jockey between him and Quinton
Speaker 3: Johnson as the best rookie performer so far. One guy
Speaker 3: gets a lot more views and hype, and that's easier
Speaker 3: to see what he can do. But seeing to a
Speaker 3: play really from like a couple of practices to the
Speaker 3: scrimmage and now again we keep singing his praises. He's
Speaker 3: way more developed. And you never really know, like you
Speaker 3: never really know where these guys are going to go,
Speaker 3: like someone like I'm just throwing this out, like Gregory Russo,
Speaker 3: these guys have a lot of talent. These guys can
Speaker 3: do maybe a lot of things, and you see, maybe
Speaker 3: they could do these things, but can you refine them
Speaker 3: into doing like a couple of things well enough where
Speaker 3: they can contribute early on? And I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 3: know what Greg Russo stats were his rookie year, but
Speaker 3: truly they came out and said, I figure it was
Speaker 3: if there was Tom Tolesco or Brandon Staley. They said,
Speaker 3: we didn't take any projects. We took guys that are
Speaker 3: gonna are gonna play right now and they're going to
Speaker 3: contribute meaningfully. Doesn't mean they have to start, but they're
Speaker 3: going to contribute. But with Tuley, again, we just didn't know.
Speaker 3: We saw him do so many things at USC and
Speaker 3: he's twenty freaking years He's still twenty years old. We've
Speaker 3: been talking about him for months. He's still twenty. It's
Speaker 3: not even September yet he's gonna turn twenty one in September.
Speaker 3: I believe they said no projects and so, but we
Speaker 3: weren't really sure. And he's on everything. He's done more
Speaker 3: than any of us would have guessed. I think you
Speaker 3: very much so liked him watching him. I didn't wat
Speaker 3: him till after the draft. After watching him, all the
Speaker 3: potential was there, but what does it turned into in
Speaker 3: the NFL? And based on the way he battled against
Speaker 3: Trevor Penning, it can't help but feel really, really good.
Speaker 3: And there are so many moments where you can tell,
Speaker 3: like in a year when he starts to develop a
Speaker 3: bit more and learn a bit more and work with
Speaker 3: these guys and play in the NFL, the almost will
Speaker 3: turn into legit plays that he's making like he's very
Speaker 3: very close on a few plays. Yes, Trevor Penning would
Speaker 3: recover very well. He's got a year on him. He's
Speaker 3: very athletic, obviously, works with Duke many Weather. You get
Speaker 3: two in another year of just working against guys like
Speaker 3: that and again against Shawn Slater, Trey Pipkins. He's going
Speaker 3: to be something. He's honestly going to be fantastic. I'm
Speaker 3: very excited about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's, you know, the age thing.
Speaker 2: I'm sure some people are tired of hearing about it,
Speaker 2: but you know, most most pass rushers in the league,
Speaker 2: like unless you're like a legit like top ten guy,
Speaker 2: most pass rushers peak at like twenty five. And for
Speaker 2: the way that Tuley is playing right now as a
Speaker 2: twenty year old, Like, really, this guy is the limit
Speaker 2: for him. You know, again, he's in such a great situation.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be the edge one, Like he's
Speaker 2: not gonna be required to be a three down player
Speaker 2: right now. Like he gets to learn from two of
Speaker 2: the best edge rushers in the game right now.
Speaker 1: He's got a great position coach, and gif Smith.
Speaker 2: Likes there's no pressure on Tuley for him to like
Speaker 2: be an instant impact player. But I think that's the case. Like,
Speaker 2: I think he's truly going to be one for this
Speaker 2: team this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ripple effect is you know, Joey buss
Speaker 3: A klil Mack. I think they played like almost ninety
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps the first two games last year.
Speaker 3: They didn't really have an official edge three that they
Speaker 3: really felt like they could rely on. And sure, like
Speaker 3: maybe there's some unproven nature, to Tuley and to Chris Rump,
Speaker 3: even heading to Chris Rum's year three, But like, how
Speaker 3: much better do you feel as Joey, as Khalil, as
Speaker 3: Brandon Staley knowing you can help these guys and keep
Speaker 3: them healthy and keep the rotation going and the longevity
Speaker 3: might be there now For Joey Bosa, who's like, he's
Speaker 3: not gone next year unless they trade him. The contract
Speaker 3: really indicates that he's going to be here, and what
Speaker 3: he's struggled with, and even you know, Brandon Thorn, I
Speaker 3: read his recent breakdown of Joey. You know, these offensive
Speaker 3: tackles consistently list him as a top five guy, but
Speaker 3: he just can't stay out there all the time because
Speaker 3: by the time the season ends, he's just very worn down.
Speaker 3: Now you can put Tully out there, now, you can
Speaker 3: put Chris Rum out there, and you don't have to
Speaker 3: play these guys ninety percent of the snaps. I'd love
Speaker 3: if they did. They're awesome, they're all pro guys, but
Speaker 3: you don't have to. And so I think Joey Khalil,
Speaker 3: Brandon Seale, these guy's got to be feeling so good
Speaker 3: seeing this twenty year old and Chris Rum for that matter,
Speaker 3: develop and take steps in training camp this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's very very well said. Wrapping up that conversation,
Speaker 2: All right, Tyler, let's get to our game ball segment here.
Speaker 2: Who do you want to highlight as the game ball
Speaker 2: of the week for you?
Speaker 3: I am going to give it to Gerrod Clark, who
Speaker 3: now leads all into your defensive lineman for the NFL,
Speaker 3: not just rookies, all into your defensive linemen in run
Speaker 3: stops and he's fourth in run stop rate at twenty
Speaker 3: five percent. He also had another two pressures this game too,
Speaker 3: And I always feel like he's close to getting a
Speaker 3: sack and always the guy that helps the other guy
Speaker 3: get the play. Sometimes when it's a sack, but he
Speaker 3: doesn't make the play, He's always helping other guys make plays.
Speaker 3: He's a guy who's exceeded my expectations even though he
Speaker 3: was our number one undrafted free agent most likely to
Speaker 3: make the team. Part of that was because of the
Speaker 3: circumstances related to the position group and the injuries. We
Speaker 3: didn't know with Austin Johnson, with Otito Agbonia, how these
Speaker 3: guys would hold up, you know, would they get any better?
Speaker 3: We didn't know, but I think JIROD Clark over the
Speaker 3: last two weeks and really this game as well, has
Speaker 3: shown that he belongs on the roster. Will that happen,
Speaker 3: we'll see. There's so many guys jocking for different spots,
Speaker 3: but at the very least he's earned the right to
Speaker 3: be there. And whereas the Chargers have kind of always
Speaker 3: had a nose tackle who could be very good against
Speaker 3: the run, but maybe not offer you much beyond on that,
Speaker 3: And we'll see what Jerad Clark. There's a lot more
Speaker 3: games to be played, or one more game do you play,
Speaker 3: but a lot of football in his career to be played.
Speaker 3: The two pressures in this game are very very strong
Speaker 3: indicators that there is something else there for Jerrod Clark
Speaker 3: beyond just being the run stopping guy, Like they do
Speaker 3: need some guys who can rush the passer too. You
Speaker 3: can't just make the team necessarily on just the one
Speaker 3: thing you do really well and maybe that's it. You
Speaker 3: got to do at least one more thing. And Jerrod
Speaker 3: Clark having these pressures is fantastic. So not who I
Speaker 3: would have expected after this game. I certainly could have
Speaker 3: gone with a couple of players, particularly on defense. But
Speaker 3: I think Girod Clark was awesome in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned just his overall disruption. I think has
Speaker 2: really improved over the last really since we saw the scrimmage.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought he had a really good scrimmage.
Speaker 2: He was pretty solid last week. He was really good
Speaker 2: this pass Sunday. I think as well. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: there were just a couple of times where he truly
Speaker 2: was like a line of scrimmage setter, and that's something
Speaker 2: that obviously braindon Vojoko did really well for this team
Speaker 2: last year, and of like the guys who are really
Speaker 2: playing in the preseason, he's really the only one that
Speaker 2: can truly be a line of scrimmage setter. That's his
Speaker 2: role obviously, and I think he executes that well. But
Speaker 2: the pass rush has been a very pleasant surprise. So
Speaker 2: I'm glad you highlighted him. I don't know how his
Speaker 2: chances are of making the roster at this point. Austin
Speaker 2: Johnson obviously coming back off the pup list has made
Speaker 2: that a little bit more difficult. But you know, we
Speaker 2: really haven't gotten any updates on Otito, and so there's
Speaker 2: really no true like backup nose tackle behind Sebastian, Joseph Day,
Speaker 2: and Gerard is that guy, so still kind of up
Speaker 2: in the air, but the Austin Johnson thing does kind.
Speaker 1: Of change things there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely does. All right, who's your game ball
Speaker 3: of the day?
Speaker 2: My game ball again kind of a surprise based off
Speaker 2: of what kind of our expectations were for him.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with J. T. Woods for this one.
Speaker 2: I think that you know, there was the bad angle
Speaker 2: on the screen, but outside of that, I thought he
Speaker 2: was really really solid. We saw him have two pass
Speaker 2: breakups or at least two, like, you know, two times
Speaker 2: where he got his hands on the football. Obviously, he
Speaker 2: saved a big play over the middle to the tight
Speaker 2: end Kroll, I think his name is where he really
Speaker 2: like timed that ball perfectly. And you know, Dan Founce
Speaker 2: was highlighting on the broadcast that so many of these
Speaker 2: dbs were just like right in the right spot at
Speaker 2: the right.
Speaker 1: Time when it came to their hand usage.
Speaker 2: That really does feel like an emphasis that Derek Ansley
Speaker 2: has brought to the team this year, and I think
Speaker 2: we're seeing that come to fruition with J. T.
Speaker 1: Woods.
Speaker 2: I think that I would love, like we've said before.
Speaker 2: I would love to see him get some like deep
Speaker 2: center field targets just to see what his range can do.
Speaker 2: But his athleticism really shows up in a lot of
Speaker 2: key moments. You know, his two tackles that I thought
Speaker 2: were legit run stops, I think you see that speed
Speaker 2: and that burst you know, off the line really flash.
Speaker 2: And you know a lot of people have these learned
Speaker 2: about him as a tackler, and you know his miss tackle.
Speaker 1: Ray was pretty high in college, but you.
Speaker 2: Know, you and I always felt like it wasn't an
Speaker 2: issue of like instincts, It wasn't an issue of recognition.
Speaker 2: It was just kind of like tackling technique. And I
Speaker 2: think we've seen him really improve in that regard. You know,
Speaker 2: he's really wrapping up and closing at a really high
Speaker 2: level right now. So just for the improvements that we've
Speaker 2: seen from him from last year to now, I think J. T.
Speaker 2: Woods is deserving candidate here. And I thought he played
Speaker 2: pretty well on Sunday, and he did against the Rams
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great call there. We've watched it, you know,
Speaker 3: from the stands on the sideline at the scrimmage. These games,
Speaker 3: he was kind of safety three by default right heading
Speaker 3: into this season, and there was really no battle there.
Speaker 3: By default, he was safety three. But at this point,
Speaker 3: now having watched almost the entire offseason and almost through
Speaker 3: the entire preseason, he's earned the right to be And
Speaker 3: I feel significantly better about him now than I did
Speaker 3: at the end of last season, where he had thirty
Speaker 3: defensive snaps or whatever it was. Yes, plenty of things
Speaker 3: to improve upon. Yes he has to play in an
Speaker 3: actual NFL regular season game and play multiple games, but
Speaker 3: I feel so much better about him. And there was
Speaker 3: that particular play, I think it was the drive ender
Speaker 3: on third down, kind of in the red zone where
Speaker 3: it wasn't like a whole lot to it. You know,
Speaker 3: he read the play, but he runs into the receiver
Speaker 3: who's trying to block him, recovers, gets past him, and
Speaker 3: then chases the ball carrier down whoever it was, to
Speaker 3: the sideline and gets him out of bounds. And maybe
Speaker 3: another player would have gotten there too, But you're seeing
Speaker 3: like the instincts and the physicality and the will and
Speaker 3: the drive, and of course after that he takes off
Speaker 3: his helmet. He's like, yeah, he's super pumped, you know.
Speaker 3: After the pass breakup I didn't see this live, but
Speaker 3: rewatching the game, you know, he breaks up that pass
Speaker 3: over the middle and then just like spikes the ball
Speaker 3: into the ground, which you know, watch out for the penalties,
Speaker 3: watch out for the penalties, but like let him have it,
Speaker 3: let him do that. During the preseason, Yeah, he's feeling confident.
Speaker 3: He's feeling really good. He's starting to, you understand the
Speaker 3: game a bit better. He's everything's kind of slowing down
Speaker 3: for him. He's feeling confident against the run, against the pass,
Speaker 3: against screens, he's in on plays, he's playing with physicality.
Speaker 3: He looks good and he's he's acting very confident and
Speaker 3: it's showing. It's just translating from practice to preseason. Things
Speaker 3: are looking really good for him. Is it perfect? No,
Speaker 3: But the steps he's taken are tremendous. So again twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two class, twenty twenty three class, a lot of
Speaker 3: guys were really excited about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: The comfort level for him is is definitely increasing. You know,
Speaker 2: I think the physicality he's played with in the preseason
Speaker 2: has been a surprise, not just like from a tackling standpoint,
Speaker 2: but you mentioned like that going up against that receiver
Speaker 2: who's trying to block him. You know, he took out
Speaker 2: some He took on a pulling guard one time, I
Speaker 2: think as well. So the physicality has been a really nice,
Speaker 2: pleasant surprise to watch. All right, let's get to this
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers preview a little bit for me. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say, like, the one thing I want to see
Speaker 2: change differently is the way that Kellen Moore gets the
Speaker 2: offense into a rhythm early on in the game. I
Speaker 2: felt like watching that game back, there was just kind
Speaker 2: of a and understandably there was a lot going on
Speaker 2: outside of the game that day, but just like the
Speaker 2: way that the offense came out, I wasn't in love
Speaker 2: with the way that the game was called to start out.
Speaker 2: And again this is preseason. I'm definitely not knocking Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore by any means, sorry as I hit my computer there,
Speaker 2: but I think, just like the way that the offense
Speaker 2: came out, I would really want to see that improved.
Speaker 2: And I think against the Rams there was just such
Speaker 2: an intentionality with the way that they ran the football,
Speaker 2: with the way that they got east and stick in
Speaker 2: a rhythm, and we really didn't see that against the Saints.
Speaker 2: It felt like they were trying to do too much
Speaker 2: at certain times. It felt like they were trying to
Speaker 2: kind of experiment with other calls that they didn't run
Speaker 2: last week. And not to say that you don't want
Speaker 2: to like practice these new things, but I just would
Speaker 2: like to see Killen Moore come out, be more intentional
Speaker 2: with the run game, be more intentional, give Easton Stick
Speaker 2: some easy looks, get him in a rhythm to you know,
Speaker 2: allow them to really kind of workshop things throughout the
Speaker 2: rest of the game. It just it just felt like
Speaker 2: there was not a great plan hending into this game,
Speaker 2: and I would like to see that rectified heading into
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers game this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I are almost on the same wavelength
Speaker 3: there because I felt the same way. I'm just specifically
Speaker 3: talking about the way that they use their tight ends,
Speaker 3: and partially is just because you need to get Easton
Speaker 3: Stick or Max Dugan if he plays comfortable and working early.
Speaker 3: And it always it always feels like what do you
Speaker 3: do with every rookie, right, every rookie quarterback, every young quarterback,
Speaker 3: You get the tight ends involved.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Tight ends are the quarterback's best friend unless you're keening out.
Speaker 3: And then of course you're their best friend. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, you know you want those tight ends involved.
Speaker 3: And it really over the last two games, we haven't
Speaker 3: seen them, particularly the Trey mcckitty and Donald Parham get
Speaker 3: involved in not necessarily intentionally. Now, there was a play
Speaker 3: that could have been a touchdown, so I guess there
Speaker 3: was some involvement and that opportunity was missed. But still
Speaker 3: I feel like you could go back to these guys
Speaker 3: I do. I don't know if the Chargers need to
Speaker 3: answer this question. It's more just for me and for us.
Speaker 3: I am very curious what kind of the plan is
Speaker 3: for these guys. What can they do because Gerald Everett
Speaker 3: is at minimum probably gone next year, and maybe he
Speaker 3: misses a couple of games this season. Whatever, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to rely on these guys at some point, and
Speaker 3: we just really haven't seen them do much with the
Speaker 3: tight ends so far. And after watching Easton stick like
Speaker 3: first game looked fantastic, second game, things are a bit
Speaker 3: of a mess and we'll see how long he plays
Speaker 3: this game. But to get him maybe a bit more
Speaker 3: calm down but in a rhythm, how do you involve
Speaker 3: these tight ends in the passing game and then another
Speaker 3: extension of that, can these tight ends in the run
Speaker 3: game or blocking in the passing game? I guess, can
Speaker 3: they perform a bit better than they have particularly in
Speaker 3: the run game. Now, this isn't necessarily all on the
Speaker 3: tight ends. Obviously, you have two tackles, like your interior
Speaker 3: is better because you have your actual two of your
Speaker 3: starters there, and your tackles are not your starters. There's
Speaker 3: no Zion Johnson prospect playing left tackle right tackle right now.
Speaker 3: But they should not be more efficient running up the middle.
Speaker 3: And yet throughout the preseason so far, granted hasn't been
Speaker 3: a ton. When Josh mckelly and Isaiah Spiller run up
Speaker 3: the middle, they have thirteen carries for seventy eight yards,
Speaker 3: so six yards per carry. Rushing outside, it's just eleven
Speaker 3: carries for thirty nine yards. You should not be twice
Speaker 3: as effective running in the middle then you are outside.
Speaker 3: Now again, I get it, you have Zion Johnson tomorrow
Speaker 3: Sallier will collapse a good backup better, and I get that,
Speaker 3: but you have to find some efficiency there. And it's
Speaker 3: not all the tight ends, but I do need to
Speaker 3: see the tight ends do a bit more to help
Speaker 3: that outside those outside runs work because they felt very
Speaker 3: downhill and kind of up the middle of the first game.
Speaker 3: But they tried to go more outside this game and
Speaker 3: it was not pretty. So if you're going to try that,
Speaker 3: hopefully the Titans can contribute more. Or or because what
Speaker 3: we've heard from Joshua Kelly and Kellen Moore's press conferences
Speaker 3: and the coaches, or do you just stick with what
Speaker 3: you're good at and like they've been saying, we're going
Speaker 3: to do things that we're good at and not the
Speaker 3: things we're not so good at. And granted that changes
Speaker 3: with Shawn and Trey, but in the preseason do they
Speaker 3: then just go back to a different rushing game. So
Speaker 3: I'm kind of on the same wavelength with you, like,
Speaker 3: how do they start this game? How do they get
Speaker 3: east and stick? And this offense kind of just going
Speaker 3: and flowing throughout the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think, you know, calling plays in the
Speaker 2: preseason is is such a different bag than calling plays
Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert, Likecker that's very simple, right, but you
Speaker 2: know with Justin Herbert you're able to call a lot
Speaker 2: of different things and he doesn't need to like come
Speaker 2: out and get into a rhythm and give him some
Speaker 2: gimmeis and and you know, establish his confidence. You know,
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen doesn't need that, Mike Williams doesn't need that.
Speaker 2: But like, this offense is a very young offense that
Speaker 2: we're seeing in the preseason, and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think we'll see Zion and Jamari play this this game.
Speaker 2: You know, the third preseason game last year was even
Speaker 2: less you know, starting caliber players in the previous two.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of how Brandon Staty is operated. So
Speaker 2: this is gonna be the full backup offensive line. You know,
Speaker 2: we'll see about Quenton Johnson. I still think he probably plays.
Speaker 2: But it's not like Easton sick Is is going to
Speaker 2: come in with a bunch of starters and just have
Speaker 2: like all this confidence. Like I think just the rhythm
Speaker 2: aspect and the confidence aspect just needs to be addressed
Speaker 2: heading into this this matchup, Like I give him some
Speaker 2: easy throws, give the guys some yards after catch opportunities,
Speaker 2: because the skill sets are all there. You know, John
Speaker 2: high Towers good after the catch, when the Johnson's obviously
Speaker 2: good after the catch, Donald Param's good after the catch.
Speaker 2: You know, the running backs are good after contact at
Speaker 2: this point which you know, Isaiah Spiller's improvement from week
Speaker 2: one to week two of the preseason I think should
Speaker 2: be noted well as well. But I think just like
Speaker 2: be more intentional to get the offense into a rhythm,
Speaker 2: and then as the confidence improves, then you can start
Speaker 2: trying these other kind of concepts and calls that that
Speaker 2: you are hoping to work on for kind of like
Speaker 2: the first team in the future. So I just three
Speaker 2: three and outs to start the game. Was pretty disappointing
Speaker 2: to watch on film because it's like you're trying to
Speaker 2: get these very valuable reps in these games, and I
Speaker 2: just didn't love the intentionality that they came out with
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm also curious, we'll see how much he plays.
Speaker 3: But I'm curious what they'll do with Quinton Johnson because
Speaker 3: it felt like rewatching this like the first game, he
Speaker 3: was very clearly the focal point, and not just in targets,
Speaker 3: but like, okay, here's a screen, here's a shallow crosser,
Speaker 3: like we're gonna let you do what you do, see
Speaker 3: what you got, and of course he worked vertically this game.
Speaker 3: It felt like, yes, he did get the targets, but
Speaker 3: they kind of just used it more as the true
Speaker 3: X receiver type, and they tried to also find ways
Speaker 3: to just and I understand why free like John high
Speaker 3: Tower a couple of times, and it felt like maybe
Speaker 3: it was a bit more forced to those guys. So
Speaker 3: I'm very curious if they lean in to Quentin Johnson
Speaker 3: a bit more and really get him ready for week one, Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we tried some things out. Let's get easton stick back
Speaker 3: on track or Max dug and if he starts or
Speaker 3: whatever happens and gets you involved early in a way
Speaker 3: that we did in week one. That granted, the results
Speaker 3: weren't so good for Quentin Johnston necessarily, but you could
Speaker 3: tell there was a different way they were getting involved
Speaker 3: that game versus this past one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Tyler, What kind of changes are you
Speaker 2: looking for from a defensive perspective against the forty nine ers?
Speaker 3: Ooh, good question. What changes am I looking forward to?
Speaker 3: Is Derek Ansley still able to call plays? Is he
Speaker 3: still out there as the guy who's I don't know
Speaker 3: what the situation there is.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's been very involved. I can
Speaker 2: see him on the sidelines doing stuff. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's calling him plays, though, I would.
Speaker 3: Love to see a shake up in the defensive line
Speaker 3: rotation and just to see what some of these guys know.
Speaker 3: They've kind of done this, but I want to see what.
Speaker 3: I feel like we know what we have from some
Speaker 3: of these edg rushers and from some of the I
Speaker 3: think Chris Centen is making it. I think they've have
Speaker 3: made that clear at this point based on the snaps
Speaker 3: that he's had throughout training camp, that he's making it.
Speaker 3: So i'd love to see some of these edge rushers,
Speaker 3: some of these dtackles get a bit more involved that way.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much I'd have to check. I'd
Speaker 3: have to bug like Argent for this for example, like
Speaker 3: how many stunts they're running and whatnot. Doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: as much as maybe they'd love to in the regular season,
Speaker 3: but of course that's it's the preseason. So maybe the
Speaker 3: way that they utilize these guys and just changing up
Speaker 3: the rotation just a little bit, and I think they
Speaker 3: will by default because it's Game three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Chris Hinton is really the only guy who
Speaker 2: didn't play as much in the second half. I think
Speaker 2: he still played a little bit, but second half was
Speaker 2: pretty pretty clearly like GIROD Clark, cjcoy.
Speaker 1: Let's get them some snaps.
Speaker 2: Let's rotate in David Moa and Chris Hinton when when necessary.
Speaker 2: But you know, I would like to see Terrence Lane
Speaker 2: get involved a little bit more. We haven't heard from
Speaker 2: him in a little bit. He's kind of like that
Speaker 2: practice squad pass rushing defensive tackle. I think we haven't
Speaker 2: really seen much from him, So I think that's an
Speaker 2: interesting one. The Chargers did sign Tae Crowder today, a
Speaker 2: linebacker previously of the Giants, and somebody else the Steelers.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 2: Had to think of that real quick. So the linebacker
Speaker 2: rotation I think is going to be curious this week. Amen,
Speaker 2: and Nick Neeman, we're both back of practice today, I believe,
Speaker 2: so they should be healthy. So I'm curious to see
Speaker 2: how that one goes as well, and just like how
Speaker 2: the the lolling backer rotation can kind of work out
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Amen, They said Nick was just held out
Speaker 3: because he was held out, but Amon was the guy
Speaker 3: that was held up because of a bit of a
Speaker 3: precaution there with injury.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Nick was like planned to be like
Speaker 2: I think he was injured like he didn't practice against
Speaker 2: the Saints, and so that was kind of that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Aimon must have had something pop up, like between the
Speaker 2: second practice and the actual game, and so they just
Speaker 2: rolled with Dyon and Blake Lynch and.
Speaker 1: Mckel michael.
Speaker 2: I can't remember how you say it, but yeah, Jones
Speaker 2: the kid from Syracuse, and then Lynch obviously got injured.
Speaker 2: So now they have to take Crowder. So we'll see
Speaker 2: kind of what happens in the linebacker spot. I thought
Speaker 2: Daane played really well on saturd on Sunday against the
Speaker 2: Saints too, for what it's worth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. He was almost my game ball day
Speaker 3: on It was fantastic. I forget exactly where he ended up.
Speaker 3: I think it was like six tackles and five of
Speaker 3: them were stops. Great game from him. Let's see it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Tyler, anything else that you want to
Speaker 2: see change this week change.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, It's more just questions that would need answering,
Speaker 3: which is just some of the guys that are fighting
Speaker 3: for that last spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think if you specifically on offense, if you want
Speaker 2: to highlight this, like I think you're talking about one
Speaker 2: spot for Keeland Oss, John hight Tower, Stone Smart, and
Speaker 2: Elijah Dotson, and I think there's different arguments for each
Speaker 2: of them to make that spot.
Speaker 1: What do you make of that group heading into the
Speaker 1: last preseason game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the four I was thinking of. It's it's
Speaker 3: going to just take one of them to force the
Speaker 3: hand of the team. I think they've done whatever they've
Speaker 3: done in practice. I think high Tower and Doss are
Speaker 3: probably in terms of production in practice, probably your two
Speaker 3: leads there. But Doss has made it quite a battle,
Speaker 3: So as far as this team goes, I still think
Speaker 3: that High Tower would make it over Dos. So I'm
Speaker 3: really just looking for, really specifically Elijah Dotson and whether
Speaker 3: he can force their hand, because they very clearly indicated
Speaker 3: there's a spot open for you if you force it.
Speaker 3: We do not have Larry Roundtree in front of you anymore.
Speaker 3: Tyler Husman has been hurt, so there's no competitionally behind you.
Speaker 3: That spot is yours, like there's a vacant spot there. Now,
Speaker 3: it might go to a tight end, it might go
Speaker 3: to a receiver, but it is yours, and he's done
Speaker 3: a lot so far to earn that spot, so I
Speaker 3: still think it goes to a receiver, especially with Jaillen
Speaker 3: Guiten's injury, and I think that kind of breaks the
Speaker 3: tie if there's any ties right now that I think
Speaker 3: it go to a receiver. But I think Dowson can
Speaker 3: really force his team's hand by having you know, I
Speaker 3: think Austin Eckler kind of had it wrapped up the
Speaker 3: first couple of games for him, but it was really
Speaker 3: that final game that he played many many years ago
Speaker 3: that made the team go Okay, we have to keep him.
Speaker 3: And I think Elijahdawson's going to need that game, whether
Speaker 3: it's receiving, rushing, catching the football, returning some kickoff returns, whatever,
Speaker 3: He's going to have to have that kind of game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I said on our show, I really liked
Speaker 2: the way that he ran the football on Sunday night.
Speaker 2: I thought that he was aggressive and physical. Obviously he
Speaker 2: didn't get to get kind of any really big explosive runs,
Speaker 2: but you know, those two catches that he dropped, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: would have been some some nice games for that offense.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a learning process for sure.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Like I think if you had asked me this question
Speaker 2: like two weeks ago, I would have said it's not
Speaker 2: even a question as John high Tower. You know, he
Speaker 2: was so explosive and productive over the first few weeks
Speaker 2: of training camp. Then he had his injury and you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't hear a ton of him against the Saints
Speaker 2: in the practice, and then you know, I thought he
Speaker 2: was open a few times, you know, watching the film back,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like he was, you know, super consistent
Speaker 2: against the Saints. You know, had the two fallse star penalties.
Speaker 2: There were a couple of times where I thought that
Speaker 2: he ran the rout, ran the wrong route. So maybe
Speaker 2: that was just his his first game back, jitter's kind
Speaker 2: of thing. But kilan Asso has just been a really
Speaker 2: steady presence for this team and specifically for East and Stick,
Speaker 2: Like I think he's kind of stick security blanket in
Speaker 2: a way, in a similar fashion of how Keenan is
Speaker 2: for Justin. But Keilan is just always in the right spot,
Speaker 2: I feel like, and he's having some really good moments.
Speaker 1: He's working as a gunner on.
Speaker 2: The Punk team as well, So it's just kind of
Speaker 2: a matter of like pick your flavor right, Like, I
Speaker 2: think you can make an argument for Stone Smart being
Speaker 2: like this really intriguing tight end prospect who's only played
Speaker 2: the position really for two years, you know, being a
Speaker 2: former college quarterback. But can you really justify keeping four
Speaker 2: tight ends? You know, Elijah dottson the same kind of thing,
Speaker 2: like intriguing prospect, But do you really want four running
Speaker 2: backs again, you know?
Speaker 1: Or do you want six receivers? Which receiver do you want?
Speaker 2: Maybe the guy who's more explosive versus the guy who's
Speaker 2: maybe been more consistent.
Speaker 1: So I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think somebody one of these four needs to have
Speaker 2: like a breakout performance and that's how they're going to
Speaker 2: earn a spot, because right now I think it's just
Speaker 2: way too muddy of a picture between this group.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I even think there's a point where they could
Speaker 3: just find another defender to add to this team and
Speaker 3: not keep a sixth receiver or a fourth height end
Speaker 3: or a fourth running back. Maybe that's Mullen on special teams.
Speaker 3: Maybe they need to find a spot from Mark Web
Speaker 3: because he has been performing well, he's just been hurt.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's another linebacker who knows like I think, or
Speaker 3: Drug Clark, let's keep him, Let's keep seventy tackles because
Speaker 3: we can't or Cjakoye. You know, like these, I do
Speaker 3: think the defenders have maybe earned it a bit more.
Speaker 3: I think they've been more consistent, have been awesome in camp,
Speaker 3: so I think they could also just see all four
Speaker 3: guys and go, yeah, I'd rather give Jay Rodgers c
Speaker 3: j Okoye for another few years than you know, force
Speaker 3: myself to have to hold on to Elijah Dowson.
Speaker 1: Man seven defensive tackles, though I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: about that one.
Speaker 3: Let Jay Rodgers have it. He's, you know, let him
Speaker 3: have it, let him have it.
Speaker 2: He's he's officially in Ryan Ficken territory where he can
Speaker 2: just have whatever he wants.
Speaker 3: Then absolutely, and you know, maybe he'll play one of
Speaker 3: the wings that kick off return too, like Brandon did
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: You know you mentioned Tailan Mull and a light and
Speaker 2: Mark Web I think that room needs to be sorted
Speaker 2: out a little bit as well. I think we know
Speaker 2: there's the five corners that we feel good about, obviously
Speaker 2: J C. Michael Davis, Assanti Simon Junior, Jesseer Taylor, and
Speaker 2: Dean Leonard.
Speaker 1: We know that there's at.
Speaker 2: Least four safeties that are gonna make it you know,
Speaker 2: depending on how Mark Webb's injury is, he's.
Speaker 1: Probably that fifth guy. But that that's kind of still
Speaker 1: up in the air.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Taiwan mull Cam Brown's had some good moments,
Speaker 2: the undrafted free agent from Ohio State. So that's that's
Speaker 2: a group that needs to be sorted out as well
Speaker 2: heading into the last preseason game. And you know, obviously
Speaker 2: special teams is going to be really crucial there too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever happens, it'll happen. I hope everyone does well,
Speaker 3: and we will react to it next week.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is right, That is right.
Speaker 2: So next week at this time, we'll be officially reacting
Speaker 2: to the Chargers and roster cuts. As a reminder, it
Speaker 2: is an initial fifty three. You know, there's always some
Speaker 2: movement that happens after cutdown day. Hoping anybody who does
Speaker 2: get cut ends up, you know, on their feet and
Speaker 2: lands in a good situation. If it's with the Chargers
Speaker 2: practice squad, obviously great. If it's elsewhere, we wishid nothing
Speaker 2: but the best in those other spots as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Soon we're almost there.
Speaker 1: Soon, almost there, almost to the regular season. You guys.
Speaker 2: We have college football back on Saturday. You know, and
Speaker 2: we have one final preseason game and then it's almost
Speaker 2: too Week one and can't wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be there too, but we'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: I can't wait, Like when Sharli comes back on, We're
Speaker 3: talking about Staley versus McDaniel. That's gonna be awesome. I'm
Speaker 3: excited we're so close to the regular season. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: week one matchup is fantastic. I think the schedule makers
Speaker 3: did a great job giving the Chargers a really nice
Speaker 3: home opener, So I'm.
Speaker 1: Excited to get to that point.
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for us today, guys,
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