Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Podcast, Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast.
Speaker 1: I got my blood drawn this morning and I've only
Speaker 1: had one meal so far, and my brain is at
Speaker 1: half masked. Welcome Jenna.
Speaker 2: At half speed is better than my full speed, so.
Speaker 1: I've met a quarter speed. But hello everybody, and welcome.
Speaker 1: It is a very special, not very special episode, but
Speaker 1: it's an extra long episode that we watched yesterday.
Speaker 2: This is the longest episode in Glee her history.
Speaker 1: This is born this way and this is exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, iconic, some might say, I guess, so you know
Speaker 2: what's such. So one of our producers, Samantha, was talking
Speaker 2: about because we got asked in an Ama about what
Speaker 2: episode would we show Aliens, and she was saying she
Speaker 2: would show this episode because it has everything that glees about.
Speaker 1: Which is interesting because I feel like you and I
Speaker 1: were texting last night while we were watching this episode,
Speaker 1: thinking wow, this really I don't know that this moves
Speaker 1: the plot forward in any way. There's a lot happening,
Speaker 1: but it's very it's a very focused episode. It's on
Speaker 1: a standalone there's a lot in it in my memory,
Speaker 1: I liked it more, but I same. I appreciate this
Speaker 1: episode for everything I think. I and my expectation was
Speaker 1: high for this episode for some reason, and it's it
Speaker 1: didn't quite live up to it. But I understand the
Speaker 1: the excellence of this episode of what it does.
Speaker 2: It really is like a potpourri of Glee hits. You
Speaker 2: get musical theater, you get the most current pop songs.
Speaker 2: You know an affirming anthem. You have crazy storylines, you
Speaker 2: have new friendships, you have a great mashup there is.
Speaker 1: You have like representation. We talk about loving ourselves, we
Speaker 1: talk about being true to who we are. It is
Speaker 1: very Glee centric. I understand that. Let's just let's get
Speaker 1: into it, okay, So let's chat about it.
Speaker 2: So Season two, episode eighteen, Born this Way originally aired
Speaker 2: April twenty six, twenty eleven. In real life, we were
Speaker 2: actually in New York filming the season two finale, if.
Speaker 1: You want to call it filming. I think we worked
Speaker 1: about five minutes of that entire trip. It was really
Speaker 1: a wonderful trip I had. I can't actually talk about it.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. It was two days before mine
Speaker 1: and Harry's birthday in New York City before the royal
Speaker 1: wedding Cayton, Kate and Harry william I was like, what,
Speaker 1: where's my brain right now? Kate?
Speaker 2: There's two of us, so we make.
Speaker 1: Solid seventy five? Cool? Okay? So the number one song
Speaker 1: new number one song sn M by Rihana featuring Britney Spoo.
Speaker 2: Do you remember chrisp being asked an interview what song
Speaker 2: he wanted to do on Glee and he answered S
Speaker 2: and M by rihann And I'm sad that anything's possible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wish he had done that.
Speaker 1: Wow? What? Okay? Movie was Rio for a second week
Speaker 1: in the in a row?
Speaker 2: Have you watched it yet? Jenna?
Speaker 1: Who has time to watch a movie right now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I'm watching mander Pump Rules right now. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we'll get to New York when we're almost there,
Speaker 1: so we'll talk about all of our experiences. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of pup photos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we met the mayor, Mike Bloomberg and took
Speaker 2: a picture outside of Wicked with him. I don't even
Speaker 2: know why we did that.
Speaker 1: See, I don't remember being there for that.
Speaker 2: I do, Were you not there?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know there's no photoproof of it, so.
Speaker 2: We all look, we're all wearing random things. I don't
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 1: I think we were working. I think we came off
Speaker 1: set and we were and I think I went to see.
Speaker 2: We got a tour of the stage. I do remember that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've been on that Wicked stage so many times
Speaker 1: that I don't think I got a tour that night.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was there. I think I saw
Speaker 1: American idiot that night. Oh fair, But I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: This could be all wrong. Anyway, we'll get there. So
Speaker 1: Boring This Way is a ninety minute episode. It is
Speaker 1: directed by Alfonso Gomez Rejo and he is the best
Speaker 1: Fonsi's here. He has the coolest shots in this episode.
Speaker 2: I'm actually I can't believe like Alfonso had the longest.
Speaker 2: It probably makes sense, Alfonso, I think shoots more like
Speaker 2: a film. Yes, and this was a ninety minute episode,
Speaker 2: and so he could really just dig in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know why you know it was ninety minutes?
Speaker 2: No? I do you?
Speaker 1: Ian Brennan could not remember. I will say that he
Speaker 1: did not remember. No, I don't know. Let's google this.
Speaker 1: Why was born this way? Clean?
Speaker 2: Ninety why you google that. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 2: some fun facts about this episode real quick, Okay. It's
Speaker 2: the only duet between Quinn and Rachel, the only duet
Speaker 2: we ever need.
Speaker 1: From Quinn and Rachel. That's so good.
Speaker 2: This is the second eighteenth episode of a season. Last
Speaker 2: season was laryngitis that portrays Rachel suffering from a physical
Speaker 2: condition or injury that may affect your voice. Approved, Glease
Speaker 2: you said born this Way before the song was even released,
Speaker 2: and that goes back to Gaga's team, probably when they
Speaker 2: showed Brad, Ryan and Ian her new music before it
Speaker 2: ever came out, which is wild. They're very smart. After
Speaker 2: the episode, Gaga tweeted, I really loved Glease Borne this
Speaker 2: Way episode. I admired the show for being brave and
Speaker 2: fighting for such modern social message never back down. Had
Speaker 2: you become friends with her yet, Jenna? No, but it
Speaker 2: was during this I had not because you were in
Speaker 2: married the night, right.
Speaker 1: That's right? So it say was very shortly after this that, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it was shortly after. It was either twenty eleven or
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. It was somewhere in between. It. I think
Speaker 1: it was a little later than when this album came out,
Speaker 1: so I think Born this Way had to live its life.
Speaker 1: And then I and then I.
Speaker 2: Because I remember you telling you a story that when
Speaker 2: you went out with her, she was playing this album
Speaker 2: in the car. She was which respect because it's a
Speaker 2: flawless album.
Speaker 1: It's really suck.
Speaker 2: I also loved this. We were asked what we would
Speaker 2: put on our own T shirts like we do in
Speaker 2: the episode, and Diana said she would put nerd. Corey
Speaker 2: said dork, Chris said high pitched, Nia said loud, Mark
Speaker 2: said saw Jenna, You said shy, Amber said talked too much?
Speaker 2: And Leah said makes weird faces when she sings.
Speaker 1: Kevin? Where was yours?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Okay, what what would it be?
Speaker 2: Back then?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I had lots of insecurities.
Speaker 1: Mmm, closet.
Speaker 2: Oh that's probably just gay now, probably like body dysmorphia.
Speaker 2: What would yours be now?
Speaker 1: Now? Oh my gosh, I think you know. Honestly, if
Speaker 1: you hadn't shown me that, I would have said introvert.
Speaker 2: But I mean I have never seen you be shy
Speaker 2: or like, I don't know what that looks like on you. Well,
Speaker 2: because you're obviously not like that with me, right, and
Speaker 2: then before I settings were around our friends, or if
Speaker 2: we're in a professional setting, you're not shy because you're working.
Speaker 1: Right, But if you put me in the middle of
Speaker 1: a Hollywood party, now, I hate small talk. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I get socially anxiety, and I probably would have turned around
Speaker 1: in my car and gone before I got there, So
Speaker 1: I would have just avoided it before I got to
Speaker 1: that point. But fair, Okay, do you talk about the
Speaker 1: songs in this episode? Yeah, this is exciting. There has
Speaker 1: some really good songs in this episode.
Speaker 2: I get a longer version because we were filing some
Speaker 2: time time.
Speaker 1: That's right, I feel Pretty, I'm Pretty. It's a one
Speaker 1: to hands down one of my favorite matchups of the series.
Speaker 2: And I also think fans agree that seems to be
Speaker 2: a universally.
Speaker 1: Love loved number. This is on I play this regularly
Speaker 1: in the car, like Pretty Pretty, I've Got to Be
Speaker 1: Me That's in performs somewhere.
Speaker 2: Only we know which is top but two most streamed
Speaker 2: Glease songs on Spotify.
Speaker 1: I believe really on this album and this song is
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, and also the original.
Speaker 2: Is one of my favorite I'm a massive fan of
Speaker 2: Keen and that lead singer's voice is one of the
Speaker 2: best toys.
Speaker 1: As if we never say goodbye Born this Way and
Speaker 1: barboustreysand which such a weird memory of that song.
Speaker 2: You and I were talking last night and I was saying,
Speaker 2: I don't remember any of this episode. Well, I did,
Speaker 2: but it's one of the things where I was there
Speaker 2: were three minutes left in the episode, and I was like, Jenna,
Speaker 2: I don't speak in a ninety minute episode. I have
Speaker 2: not seen it. Like a word here I am. And
Speaker 2: then I say two words.
Speaker 1: What were your two words?
Speaker 2: I believe they were where's Santana? I was expensive that episode.
Speaker 1: There those two words. Damn yeah, I had a few
Speaker 1: more words this episode, you did?
Speaker 2: You had some crazy it's weird thing. Okay, let's talk.
Speaker 2: So a little summary of this episode will teach u
Speaker 2: the bak clup a valuable lesson about self acceptance and
Speaker 2: embracing what makes you unique. Meanwhile, Emma confronts her obsessive issues,
Speaker 2: Rachel struggle struggles with life altering decisions. Lauren and Quinn
Speaker 2: go toch Too for the promo. Queen Crown in Santana
Speaker 2: has something up her sleeve that could permanently alter the
Speaker 2: lee club dynamic and that's the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's enough for the series. Yes, okay, wow.
Speaker 2: I all the episode starts off with this whole thing
Speaker 2: about you know, there's this we're gonna we're having like
Speaker 2: booty camp where we're dancing to Brad at the piano
Speaker 2: and Finn is such a bad dancer injures Rachel and
Speaker 2: then she has to go to the doctor her nose
Speaker 2: is broken, and the doctor pitches like, hey, this could
Speaker 2: be a good time for you to get a little
Speaker 2: cosmetic work on your nose because it's not going to
Speaker 2: affect your voice. And then she goes back to the
Speaker 2: Glee club and was openly talking about this, and then
Speaker 2: Santana goes on one of the craziest rants I think
Speaker 2: in glee history, and you're watching it and it's so
Speaker 2: effortless for Nyam and at some point I just I
Speaker 2: turned to Austin, who's watching with me, was like, how
Speaker 2: does she not one of those lines is a normal
Speaker 2: thing anyone would say, and yet she probably did not
Speaker 2: mess up her lines once. No, And that is a
Speaker 2: long scene and it's going back and forth with her
Speaker 2: and other people chiming in yep, and she goes between
Speaker 2: saying some funny things to wildly offensive things. Her line
Speaker 2: to you was crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all crazy crazy, just say it's they're crazy.
Speaker 2: Did you ever wear colored contacts before after that in
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Only for this episode. This was a
Speaker 1: one off. I did wear a blue eye contacts and
Speaker 1: I thought it was so weird. But I guess they
Speaker 1: needed something. We could use something else. But it's okay.
Speaker 2: Tina has this whole moral arc that we don't see.
Speaker 1: We just hear about it. We just hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yes, you're right. Naya's monologue is inappropriate yet seamless,
Speaker 1: and she really gives it to everybody. And I remember
Speaker 1: when we were shooting this, we were all kind of
Speaker 1: like like, because there's some truth to it, there's not
Speaker 1: truth to it, but it's calling us out on things
Speaker 1: that I don't know. It's very strange. But all to
Speaker 1: say will is like wait, wait, wait all you guys,
Speaker 1: especially Rachel who's thinking about getting a nose job. You know,
Speaker 1: the thing you want to change about yourself is the
Speaker 1: most interesting part about you that's hard to digest sometimes.
Speaker 2: Still, it was also at it this point in the episode,
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, born this way about Rachel getting
Speaker 2: a nose job. I was like, this whole song represents
Speaker 2: it's not a nose job, right, you know, right. But
Speaker 2: when you have a show that is so I think
Speaker 2: queer friendly and forward, that you have to go to
Speaker 2: these other storylines to make Bourne the Sway work, I
Speaker 2: was like, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely, but you do.
Speaker 2: Have an LGBT storyline in here with's crossing Santana, but
Speaker 2: we do. You don't even have to really address the
Speaker 2: Kurt Blaine stuff because they're one of the most popular,
Speaker 2: hands down couples and characters on the show and in
Speaker 2: TV history.
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, Will is telling the kids that due to
Speaker 1: their their need to change themselves or whatever they find
Speaker 1: and their insecurities, that we're going to have an assignment
Speaker 1: this week that's all about acceptance and that he wants
Speaker 1: us to sing songs about accepting ourselves. He's also helping
Speaker 1: Emma deal with her quote unquote OCD that she does
Speaker 1: not quite announce or accept yet as well. And Emma
Speaker 1: comes in and she she brings her shirt as the example,
Speaker 1: and she she says ginger and we're all like Will,
Speaker 1: Will's is pretty disappointed, but we get one of the
Speaker 1: best Emma lines of the series. I claim my gingerhood
Speaker 1: before you today. I was born in this way. Hooray, hooray, hooray.
Speaker 2: That hooray gave me Joey the comeback style or Michael
Speaker 2: Scott level of anxiety and uncomfortableness. Because it's so slow
Speaker 2: and everyone's like.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Is so good?
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to laugh.
Speaker 2: I also love that once again Schuster doesn't really have
Speaker 2: a lesson plan, and then when he's talking to him
Speaker 2: in her office, She's like, I wasn't born this way.
Speaker 1: He's like, or there it is on the day we
Speaker 1: see the realization happen every week. Yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: break into so Rachel brings Quinn to the doctor with
Speaker 1: her because she wants the doctor to show her what
Speaker 1: her nose could look like after the surgery if she
Speaker 1: were to get it, and Mike just it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Quintin's right. I'm just alarmed at the doctor pushing this
Speaker 1: surgery on her so offensively.
Speaker 2: I think that common yea, because I feel like, if
Speaker 2: you're I mean maybe now, but I feel like back
Speaker 2: then or slightly before, you would see I would see
Speaker 2: hear stories like this all the time because it's their job.
Speaker 2: They want people to do it, and people are coming
Speaker 2: in to get these smaller noses, and so they're probably
Speaker 2: very desensitized to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's offensive still, but they they sing I
Speaker 1: feel pretty, I'm pretty. It just makes me feel so good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just love this song so much.
Speaker 2: It's like catnip, like it just needs to just put
Speaker 2: it on loop. Yes, I will listen to it all
Speaker 2: day today. They sound so good together this mash It
Speaker 2: fits both of their They have completely different voices, and
Speaker 2: it fits both their voices in different ways like compliments
Speaker 2: their abilities and not. Yeah, and it's also just a
Speaker 2: great mashup you hear on this show when some mashups,
Speaker 2: some songs don't organically fit together as well as these.
Speaker 1: Two should, and these two they really do. It's just
Speaker 1: a perfect I think it's a perfect mashup. I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: why don't we have more Rachel and Quinn duets? But
Speaker 1: this is perfect, Like, don't mess with the with the
Speaker 1: perfection of this duet.
Speaker 2: Which is surprising because I feel like when you're doing
Speaker 2: when you're doing twenty episodes a year, you got to
Speaker 2: keep thinking of things to fill up the time and
Speaker 2: entertain people. When you do something that is so wildly successful.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you do more?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But they didn't and they just left it and
Speaker 2: it's sort of beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, well, Finn doesn't like that Quinn is helping Rachel.
Speaker 1: He feels like this is the opposite of the week's
Speaker 1: last And in the Glee Club and that really cool
Speaker 1: shot of or seeing of Finn and Quinn in the
Speaker 1: lockers that again is like the quintessential Fonsie director shots
Speaker 1: that you don't normally see on the show. But you're like,
Speaker 1: that was cool. And then Finn performs I've Got to
Speaker 1: Be Me in the in the Glee Club and it
Speaker 1: is just the cutest, sweetest muffin dancing or attempting to
Speaker 1: dance number that you could ever see.
Speaker 2: Has anyone ever been more charming?
Speaker 1: Nope? Nope And and with Harry too another just charmer.
Speaker 1: It's just the sweetest number. I really, it makes me
Speaker 1: so happy. Yeah, the more I talk.
Speaker 2: About this episode, you know what I think it was
Speaker 2: so I think the extendedness of it mm hmm is
Speaker 2: the thing that, like the pacing was different than normal
Speaker 2: Glee episode. Normally things happen very very quickly, and because
Speaker 2: things could breathe, you could add in the second verse
Speaker 2: of a song. It felt almost slow to me, And
Speaker 2: so I think for me, had this been condensed to
Speaker 2: a sixty minute episode, it probably would have been fun.
Speaker 1: Yes, I hear you, that makes sense. I agree with you. Yeah, okay, But.
Speaker 2: That's not to say it's not great because you do
Speaker 2: get no more of everyone. I think we're just it happens.
Speaker 1: It just a lot happens, I think, and if you
Speaker 1: isolate them, you're like, oh, it's really great. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of It's.
Speaker 2: Sort of like a little Glee movie, Like this is
Speaker 2: sort of what you would.
Speaker 1: Be like if there were a movie Clee three D
Speaker 1: not that movie, right, and sweet fin asking if he's
Speaker 1: getting better dancing. Okay, So Rachel comes in and she's
Speaker 1: showing everybody the compositions of what she'd look like. But
Speaker 1: it's essentially I mean, it's not essentially. It is a
Speaker 1: photoshop of Diana and Diana's nose and LEAs how weird.
Speaker 2: It's so weird, and I felt about that.
Speaker 1: I know, I think they all were like, this is weird.
Speaker 1: This is just weird, and this is where we find
Speaker 1: Tina's very short arc of saying that her her self
Speaker 1: Rachel's self hatred has inspired her to love herself and
Speaker 1: become the change that she wants to see and very good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well done for Tina. Okay, there are some works that
Speaker 1: I'm proud of. There are some works that I'm not
Speaker 1: proud of, the latter being the majority. But I this
Speaker 1: is just something that I was like, I think I
Speaker 1: had a lot to do in this episode, but it
Speaker 1: didn't really make sense to me.
Speaker 2: You were an important and vital part of the storyline, Jenna,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I do love the Puck storms
Speaker 2: into the girl's bathroom like it's nothing and then tries
Speaker 2: to talk Rachel out of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's cute. You just don't see Puck trying to
Speaker 1: fix things often and to just do kind of the
Speaker 1: opposite of what he's you know, woman eyes.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it necessarily realize this when we
Speaker 2: were filming all this, but Puck's transformation since being with
Speaker 2: and around laurences ICs is really sort of a magical thing.
Speaker 2: The last episode he was had like a shady and
Speaker 2: grin on his face. The entire time because he's happy.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that was written that way
Speaker 2: or Mark has decided to do that, but I think
Speaker 2: it's working very well.
Speaker 1: It is working, and it just makes him less one
Speaker 1: dimensional as a character, you know, kind of this like
Speaker 1: punk you know, I appreciated it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sort of makes me feel like it's
Speaker 2: sort of the punk reprieve where probably outside of that classroom,
Speaker 2: though we're not seeing it, he may be acting the same,
Speaker 2: and then everybody in that classroom is different because they're
Speaker 2: comfortable and safe with each other, which is obviously the
Speaker 2: point of the show. Profound Kevin Profound, just realizing that
Speaker 2: in episode eighteen two, after being.
Speaker 3: On my show Smart twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, Kurt does this Barbera vention and saying
Speaker 1: that he would it would you would be doing a
Speaker 1: disservice to Barbara if you get if Rachel gets a
Speaker 1: nose job, So we do Barbra streisand by Duck Sauce
Speaker 1: in the is it du Sauce?
Speaker 2: Yes, and where we talked about if something works, you
Speaker 2: do it again.
Speaker 1: It literally looks like safety Dance without Safety Dance. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was just confused. I also, what did we do
Speaker 1: in them all that day? Did we do anything?
Speaker 2: I don't know? Was I in this yes?
Speaker 1: Kevin, Oh my god, the same question because I fast
Speaker 1: forwarded this numb. I did not love. I do not
Speaker 1: love this song. So it just it wasn't something for
Speaker 1: me that I wanted to.
Speaker 2: I don't hate this one. I would have preferred it
Speaker 2: if like they were singing it and a lot of singing.
Speaker 2: But even.
Speaker 1: I will say a lot of a lot of our
Speaker 1: cast members looked like they were having a really fun time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because we had zero to do, zero responsibility. When
Speaker 1: there's zero responsibility, you can just fus around and probably
Speaker 1: get in trouble for it. But it was fun.
Speaker 2: I think because of that, that's when we went and
Speaker 2: rated Target.
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Maybe it was this one.
Speaker 1: I think there was this one because there wasn't a
Speaker 1: lot to do, so you just kind of sit your
Speaker 1: trailer and they had like a whole scene before and
Speaker 1: so we were in then, and so lots of time. Anyway, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: can we talk about this Emma's therapy session?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I okay, I have lots of thoughts about the
Speaker 2: MMA storyline in general.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I Will say that I really enjoyed the
Speaker 1: scene because we got to see Jama acting zone.
Speaker 2: And it's great scene.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really well written scene. I
Speaker 1: thought the message was clear. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: well done, and I feel like it was a really
Speaker 1: it is the what's the word I'm looking for. It's
Speaker 1: not the pinnacle, but it is the central theme of
Speaker 1: the episode is in this scene.
Speaker 2: It's that thing that we point out where as crazy
Speaker 2: and silly as everything can be in a Glee episode,
Speaker 2: you usually do have one scene where the serious subtext
Speaker 2: of the episode comes out and sort of grounds the show.
Speaker 2: And Yeah, that's absolutely this scene. It's like, Oh, the
Speaker 2: adults are in the room and we're talking about adult
Speaker 2: things and the adults.
Speaker 1: Are acting right right, people are acting.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it was phenomenal because I think my sort
Speaker 2: of like is this okay? Was sort of how Will
Speaker 2: was talking to and about her Emma and her OCD,
Speaker 2: where I get he was getting frustrated with her, but
Speaker 2: the way he was sort of just flippantly talking about
Speaker 2: it and giving her shit for something that is really
Speaker 2: out of her control made me, in twenty twenty three angry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just uncomfortable, Like that's not how you speak to people,
Speaker 2: especially if you're trying to help them.
Speaker 1: Well. In truth though, let's get real for a minute.
Speaker 1: In truth though, don't you think that people who are
Speaker 1: going through things like Emma was going through in this episode,
Speaker 1: people probably do talk to people that way?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably do better.
Speaker 1: Right, And now it's like it's not will that we
Speaker 1: you know, obviously hold her to a higher card, but
Speaker 1: like it's it's definitely something that I'm sure people deal with.
Speaker 1: It's like just oh, just get over it or like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not you're not facing your you know, issues,
Speaker 1: Like it's not that easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. And I also think he's probably the
Speaker 2: one who can say that, say in that way and
Speaker 2: she won't completely write him off and will hear him right,
Speaker 2: Like he should choose tough love stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: How good was Jaymon that scene?
Speaker 1: I was floored. I feel like I didn't I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that scene. I didn't see it coming.
Speaker 2: And it was really well tough because this up of
Speaker 2: it too, it starts with like, oh, this is the
Speaker 2: normal sort of Jama deflecting, Emma deflecting. There's some comedy
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, oh, you've spent the entire hour
Speaker 2: disaffecting the chair, ha ha ha, and then very quickly
Speaker 2: that the ship turns and you're like, oh, oh man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Emma then does reveal that she comes. She's wearing her
Speaker 1: O C D shirt. She's started taking these meds and
Speaker 1: it's it's she's really taking steps to help her heal right, uh,
Speaker 1: and Will is super provagally club. We all have our
Speaker 1: shirts on, already has four eyes, Brittany's with I'm with
Speaker 1: Stupid with the word zero, Finn can't dance, Kurt likes boys,
Speaker 1: Lauren bad attitude, Mercedes no weave, Mike can't sing, Puck,
Speaker 1: I'm with Stupid Downward and Lucy Kaboozi for Quinn, trotty
Speaker 1: mouth for Sam, bitch lebonese for Santana, brown eyes for
Speaker 1: Tina Os Emma nose for Rachel who decides that she's
Speaker 1: not going to get a nose job hooray, and Will
Speaker 1: with butt chin and then we sing Boring this Way,
Speaker 1: which we also do on tour. This choreo was really fun.
Speaker 2: It looked very complicated.
Speaker 1: It did look complicated, it was not, but it was
Speaker 1: looked complicated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the words were more complicated than the choreography
Speaker 2: in this number. I also thought it was one of
Speaker 2: those times where it's like, oh, we're not the cleanest dancers,
Speaker 2: are we.
Speaker 1: I think they have accepted it at this point that
Speaker 1: we're that we're not supposed to be the cleanest dancers.
Speaker 2: So one I don't think that's happening in this episode
Speaker 2: is Santana has like a two pronged approach to getting
Speaker 2: what she wants. She comes up with a plan to
Speaker 2: win Brittany and become prom Queen and get Kurt back,
Speaker 2: all at the same time with this weird plan that
Speaker 2: involves Korofsky, which was hilarious and weird and uncomfortable total.
Speaker 2: I was like, what is happening? So she realizes that
Speaker 2: if she can win prom Queen, she can win Brittany's
Speaker 2: love because she'll just tell her it's the lot of
Speaker 2: the land and they have to be together and she'll
Speaker 2: believe it. And she realizes she needs a jock to
Speaker 2: get boats and Sam doesn't have enough heat, but Kofski does.
Speaker 2: Sam does this. You know, Core does the Sean Connery
Speaker 2: impression in the hallway, which is great. I love when
Speaker 2: they start sprinkling all these in because he's just a beast.
Speaker 1: Except when he when they sprinkle in ones that he says,
Speaker 1: but he like, didn't master yet, and then he's like,
Speaker 1: I can't just do that.
Speaker 2: But he does. Yes, he does have the self doubt
Speaker 2: that should be on his T shirt. So Santana catches
Speaker 2: Kofski in the hallway checking out Sam's but we all
Speaker 2: have yeah been there, and Santana says, holy crap, I'm
Speaker 2: a closet lesbian and a judgmental bitch, which means one thing,
Speaker 2: I have awesome Gatar. And so Satana, Mercedes, and Tina
Speaker 2: get coffee with Kurt and Blaine, who say that Kurt
Speaker 2: they wish Kirk would go back to McKinley if it
Speaker 2: weren't for a Koski, And that's when Santana's like, oh,
Speaker 2: let's just make this a four to four for one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get Kurt back here. This scene between I
Speaker 2: mean Nya and Max is also one of my favorite
Speaker 2: scenes of this entire episode MM because she calls him out.
Speaker 2: He's the only person who could put who has ever
Speaker 2: put him in his place? Is Santana. Now for a
Speaker 2: couple episodes running and like you can't verbally keep up
Speaker 2: with her. No one's going to outdo her because one
Speaker 2: what she's saying is true, and two she's already eight
Speaker 2: steps ahead of you. And it's not a bad plan
Speaker 2: for them to be beards for each other.
Speaker 1: It's not. So Krafsky is like basically back into a
Speaker 1: corner because otherwise he's outed, and and that's the end
Speaker 1: of it. So he he comes in and he apologizes
Speaker 1: cilcly club, saying that he's sorry for how he treated
Speaker 1: kurtin how he slushied all of us when that very
Speaker 1: funny slushy flashback montage.
Speaker 2: Do you remember filming that scene? No, I just do you.
Speaker 2: So the thing is like, I don't know if people
Speaker 2: I don't even think about this, But when you have
Speaker 2: characters come into the room, the choir room, especially that
Speaker 2: aren't normally there, m it feels like it's scripted, like
Speaker 2: it feels how it does in the script where it
Speaker 2: feels weird, like why is Kurowski here? It feels very
Speaker 2: much like this is weird? Why is this character? Like
Speaker 2: Max is in the choir room and figgins yes and
Speaker 2: like leading a talk where Shoe normally stands or Rachel
Speaker 2: says some crazy shit. It does feel weird in real
Speaker 2: life too, right, right, It's like anytime Jane would come in,
Speaker 2: you're like.
Speaker 1: She's that's right, just as so tall Yes, and so
Speaker 1: Santana's mouthing the speech.
Speaker 2: I do love them together. It's really funny.
Speaker 1: I think it's really funny.
Speaker 2: Santana pulling the strings is always really good.
Speaker 1: Yes, and she announces them. Then obviously they've created this
Speaker 1: this new group called the Bully Whips. But then something happened,
Speaker 1: something crazy love. Uh. That scene is really great. I
Speaker 1: don't remember shooting it, but.
Speaker 2: I just remember I think we were all a bit
Speaker 2: we were laughing and uncomfortable because it's so it's how
Speaker 2: it actually felt. One of those times we don't have
Speaker 2: to really act.
Speaker 1: Right and and people are still we're still upset about it.
Speaker 1: But Burt and Kurt are back at McKinley and they're
Speaker 1: talking with Krofsky and his dad with Figgins, and I
Speaker 1: guess Will has to be there, and Bert's angry and
Speaker 1: and Kurt basically asked to speak to Krofsky alone because
Speaker 1: he knows something's going on. He's like, what what's happening here?
Speaker 1: And so Krofsky tells him about Santana and Santana and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm he's impressed by Santana's is it,
Speaker 1: Lady macbeth It was some some play on Lady Lady mcbethian,
Speaker 1: I think you're he's repulsed and impressed.
Speaker 2: Let's buy it.
Speaker 1: And so Kurt says that he can come to back
Speaker 1: to McKinley, or he can tell everyone about Krofsky, and
Speaker 1: so they they decide to come back. He's back at
Speaker 1: McKinley and Bert tells Finn to watch out for his brother.
Speaker 2: Cute.
Speaker 1: Cute.
Speaker 2: I also love that Kurt. You know, part of the
Speaker 2: conditions of him coming back was that Krowsky and he
Speaker 2: had to start a chapter of P Flag and then
Speaker 2: had to which is also like shout out to p Flag.
Speaker 2: They put this in the episode that borne this way
Speaker 2: episode like it was very smart and yeah, great and
Speaker 2: it's now another secret Kowski and Kurt Cher, which I
Speaker 2: also find interesting where yeah, you're right, the person that
Speaker 2: can threaten you, the person you've been like hating on
Speaker 2: the most, is also the person that's in control of
Speaker 2: what happens to your secret. I didn't think that went through.
Speaker 2: No you did not. So Kurt's back.
Speaker 1: Kurt's back, and the new directions help the Warblers. The
Speaker 1: Warblers say goodbye to Kurt, but going back for one second. Okay,
Speaker 1: we found it. Santa told us. Kurt says in that scene,
Speaker 1: I'm both repulsed and impressed by her. Lady Macbethy and
Speaker 1: ways hmm a Latina Eve Harrington and Kowsky looks confused,
Speaker 1: and then Kurt says, if you're going to be gay,
Speaker 1: you gotta know, you gotta know this. It's funny, so quick,
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, So we Blaine is going to perform
Speaker 1: with the war Blur's going to perform someone or somewhere
Speaker 1: only we know in the courtyard. I remember doing this
Speaker 1: number in the courtyard, and I don't remember them doing this.
Speaker 1: I don't remember them. This was in the in the
Speaker 1: shoot or in their script. And so I see like
Speaker 1: the work for the next day, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we're doing some somewhere only we know. And
Speaker 1: I was just so excited. Sometimes like things slipped my
Speaker 1: We were doing a lot. This is a big episode,
Speaker 1: but I was very excited by it. And we are
Speaker 1: in the courtyard.
Speaker 2: I do you texted me and you go. Chris crying
Speaker 2: in the courtyard is why he has his golden globe.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so simple, and yet he's acting
Speaker 1: zone and everybody saying goodbye. I got emotional. I thought
Speaker 1: it was really sweet. I really I really like this number.
Speaker 2: Selfishly, I was just glad Chris is back with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, for sure he back, he back and
Speaker 1: and yes, and that's and then Chris Colferd takes the
Speaker 1: MVP because of it. Brittany makes Santana a custom shirt
Speaker 1: that she thinks is lesbian but it's Lebanese, and Santana
Speaker 1: and her have this crazy scene where she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not wearing this and I'm not coming out and also
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing this shirt because I said I loved
Speaker 1: you and you didn't say you love me back, and.
Speaker 2: Brittany says she's bite curious. Mm hmm, that's right.
Speaker 1: And uh again, we have another Britanna scene that's like,
Speaker 1: it's just oh, they're always so powerful, even when they're
Speaker 1: like yeah, two or four lines, it's like, yeah, get together, y'all,
Speaker 1: just get together. So Santana sits out of the board
Speaker 1: this way performer, she's not there.
Speaker 2: We passed. The Bechdel test is that he pronounced it.
Speaker 2: The Bechdel what. It's a test that they do for
Speaker 2: movies where if there's two female characters speaking to one
Speaker 2: another and it's not about a man. Mmmmm, yes, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's so we passed that with Flying Colors few.
Speaker 2: There's a video on TikTok also going around where it's
Speaker 2: like Harry Potter doesn't pass it the entire series.
Speaker 1: Well, it is about Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Harry Potter hits women.
Speaker 1: So wow.
Speaker 2: So the other great crazy storyline of this is Lauren
Speaker 2: decides she wants to be prom queen and needs to
Speaker 2: take Quinn down in order to do it, and Quinn
Speaker 2: is obviously not happy about it. She's not furious about it.
Speaker 2: But what happens is Lauren in the hallway calls Quinn
Speaker 2: Lucy and stops her dead in her tracks and they
Speaker 2: have this, oh, such a good scene, amazing scene where
Speaker 2: you know, after Quinn has been encouraging Rachel to get
Speaker 2: a nose job and change what she wants about herself,
Speaker 2: Quinn reveals this whole storyline that we did not know about.
Speaker 1: She was Lucy Kabousie. She changed her name. Her name
Speaker 1: was Her real name is Lucy q for Bray, which
Speaker 1: Zic's found that there was no record of a Quinn
Speaker 1: for Bray because it was Lucy cute and she was
Speaker 1: a bit overweight, she had a different nose, glasses, maybe braces.
Speaker 1: Can't remember. But she's also really cute in this spot, it.
Speaker 2: Was so cute. Did you remind you of the Friends?
Speaker 1: Yes, totally totally Monica, but she's so cute in this
Speaker 1: foot in sic things. Sic thinks that this is gonna
Speaker 1: take her down and actually a backfires and Quinn people
Speaker 1: are seeing are rooting for Lusika Busy. They're onboard. She's
Speaker 1: up in the poles. But the sweet that scene was
Speaker 1: just so sweet. Diana acting zone, Lauren acting zone so
Speaker 1: funny and they're good to go.
Speaker 2: Actually being part of the Glee Club has really been
Speaker 2: a nice switch up edition and like she brings something
Speaker 2: completely different her acting style, character, it's really nice. And
Speaker 2: every time she's on screen and it has more to say,
Speaker 2: I get really excited.
Speaker 1: And her facial expressions are so funny.
Speaker 2: Yes, the comical, and I do think one of the
Speaker 2: requirements for being ugly is being able to seamlessly switch
Speaker 2: between comedy and drama within a couple of lines, and
Speaker 2: Ashley does that in every single scene. You're like, is
Speaker 2: this insane or is this sincere? I don't know, but
Speaker 2: it's great and I buy it regardless, totally. I mean,
Speaker 2: and that is sort of I mean, that's not just it,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's the episode. There is a lot happening,
Speaker 2: a lot happening.
Speaker 1: But overall, yeah, I think they all tie into one
Speaker 1: another in this central theme of you know, loving yourself
Speaker 1: and accepting yourself for who you are and all the parts.
Speaker 1: And yes, I know I said this episode I was
Speaker 1: a little disappointed, but I think it was just my
Speaker 1: expectation was different. It wasn't even high, it was different.
Speaker 1: I don't think I remembered this episode completely.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. Yeah, I think the only
Speaker 2: thing ingrained in my head because we did it on tour,
Speaker 2: which is a recurrent theme with us, and so that's
Speaker 2: what I imagine. The whole episode was like that performance. Yes,
Speaker 2: me too, which makes no sense. It's because we did
Speaker 2: the tour. That's why we did the t shirts and everything,
Speaker 2: and that's why this is so fun for us, because
Speaker 2: like we can go back and actually watch these things
Speaker 2: and reframe instead of our memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly. Should we do some tardy takes.
Speaker 2: Let's Jenna, do you have any cringe moments?
Speaker 1: You know? The Santana monologue in the beginning is seamless
Speaker 1: as naimate it. It's quite inappropriate. Yeah, yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that whole, the whole, like racist Asian
Speaker 2: stuff that was happening during that made me really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And then also, no, that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, best dance move.
Speaker 1: I mean I think it. I think it's Corey.
Speaker 2: Also Born this way was great.
Speaker 1: You're right, and you're right. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2: It could be a tie. They're very different, ok Best
Speaker 2: song pretty un pretty? Yeah, pretty unpretty for sure.
Speaker 1: Performance my prop, my blue context.
Speaker 2: And the T shirts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best line. I think I've got a gay.
Speaker 1: I got a gay.
Speaker 2: Go it's very good.
Speaker 1: I like gasped when I watched it. Yeah, performance, MVP,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I think it's I don't know what
Speaker 1: about What are you gonna say?
Speaker 2: Oh? I just for the therapy scene alone. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: Jaima and shout out to Kathleen Quinlan, who plays doctor
Speaker 2: Shane because those two together all stars.
Speaker 3: Chris also gave me an yeah yeah, I mean everyone's
Speaker 3: really showing up truly except Artie and Tina.
Speaker 2: You know what I think, I I think I do
Speaker 2: really like this episode.
Speaker 1: You know me too.
Speaker 2: We've just spent forty five I've been it's talking ourselves
Speaker 2: into it, con.
Speaker 1: Ourselves of this opposite. No no, no, okay.
Speaker 2: Well done Brad, Ryan and Ian.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, very good, very very good.
Speaker 2: So shit we found on TikTok this week is one
Speaker 2: of my favorites. It's raining men. Raina on TikTok posted
Speaker 2: this incredible. It's a wild chart that I saw last
Speaker 2: week week before of political identities of twelfth grade boys
Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy five to present day and in two
Speaker 2: thousand and ten ish there's this spike in liberalism. And
Speaker 2: she goes sound to say it's because she's like a
Speaker 2: lot of people think it's because of Obama was in office.
Speaker 2: But that's been Glee premiered, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: fact check it. I'm not interested in seeing if it's right.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to accept it as fact and believe it.
Speaker 2: It is hilarious. Go watch it. It's twenty eight seconds, and.
Speaker 1: I love that. I'll take it. I'm gonna believe it
Speaker 1: is Glee.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a wonderful, wonderful little TikTok. Thank you for
Speaker 2: making that and tagging us in it. Yes, I mean
Speaker 2: it's two of my favorite things, political commentary and Glee combined.
Speaker 2: Give me more of these. Yes, some of these comments
Speaker 2: are also great.
Speaker 1: I don't read the comments.
Speaker 2: Someone said, I love statistics, but I'm willing to unlearn
Speaker 2: it to believe this correlation is the new causation. To
Speaker 2: be honest, I'm so glad to have this info. See
Speaker 2: some of these comments. I always read the comments on
Speaker 2: other people's videos. Okay, it helps you give context because
Speaker 2: sometimes I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Well, thanks for joining us listening to our
Speaker 1: riveting recap of born Sway.
Speaker 2: Jenna, do you know what's next week?
Speaker 1: What is next week?
Speaker 2: Rumors? Oh crap, Christian Channa, it's Fleetwood Mac. It's all happening.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Fleetwood Mac tribute episode. It happened
Speaker 1: so quickly after doing Landslide. I don't feel like I remember.
Speaker 2: That because he probably inspired them, you know, Stevie's for
Speaker 2: the right. Yeah, exactly go for it. Oh, thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us on this extra long episode of Glee.
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