Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Vanessa Bayer and this is my brother Jonah.
Speaker 3: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood
Speaker 3: and nostalgia and how shaped us into the people we are.
Speaker 1: Today, who are really part of a community, if I
Speaker 1: do say so myself.
Speaker 3: Welcome to how did we get weird?
Speaker 1: So, Jonah, I was really excited for our guests today,
Speaker 1: not only because she's a friend, but because the reason
Speaker 1: I know her and the reason we became friends is
Speaker 1: from working together. And she's a real class act compared
Speaker 1: to me. And I'm going to give you an example
Speaker 1: of why. We filmed this movie Abiza together, and it
Speaker 1: was so much fun. We were in Serbia and Croatia together.
Speaker 1: And you'd think I would be telling a story from
Speaker 1: when we were in Serbia or Croatia, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to. I'm going to tell you another story, which
Speaker 1: is that after we were on filming, we did a
Speaker 1: photo shoot.
Speaker 2: I think it was in New York. It might have
Speaker 2: been in la but I think it was in New York.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the photo shoot, they had
Speaker 1: like all of our clothes and everything that we wore
Speaker 1: in the movie at this photo shoot, and they said,
Speaker 1: if there's any clothes from the movie that you want,
Speaker 1: you can take them home. So I took home almost
Speaker 1: every single thing, okay.
Speaker 4: I wore in the movie.
Speaker 1: And Gillian took home like a pair of shoes, and
Speaker 1: she wore this unicorn onesie costume in the movie, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you're taking that home, right, And she
Speaker 1: was like no, what would I do with it?
Speaker 2: And I was like, should I take it home?
Speaker 1: But like, literally wouldn't even fit me, so I didn't
Speaker 1: take it home. I do think after she left, I
Speaker 1: took home some of her stuff, which again would not
Speaker 1: fit me, but I just couldn't leave it there. And
Speaker 1: I also took home a suitcase that we didn't even
Speaker 1: have during the shoot, but didn't have during the filming,
Speaker 1: but was just there for the photo shoot that I
Speaker 1: somehow talked them into giving me. It wasn't a way suitcase,
Speaker 1: you know, there's expensive anyways.
Speaker 3: Those are nice suitcases.
Speaker 1: So Jonah, should we introduce our guests now that everyone knows?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1: So our guest today is an actress and director who
Speaker 1: you may know from her starring roles in shows such
Speaker 1: as Community or Girls or films such as a Beza,
Speaker 1: which I got to work with this little sweetie on
Speaker 1: Please Welcome our friend Gilly and Jacob. Hi.
Speaker 3: So, Gilly, do you remember this situation?
Speaker 5: Yes, because I still do wear those shoes all the time.
Speaker 4: They were nice shoes. You had nice shoes. I was smart.
Speaker 2: But did you take anything home other than the shoes?
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 5: I took a few more things home. I took home
Speaker 5: a T shirt that I still wear all the time. Okay,
Speaker 5: a pair of jeans, yeah, I took. I took a
Speaker 5: few things home and I wear them a lot. We
Speaker 5: had really nice clothing on that movie.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I think that your character, because you really were the
Speaker 1: main character. I think yours and I think your character's
Speaker 1: style was like a little more.
Speaker 2: Elevated than that.
Speaker 1: It is not to burn my character, okay, but I
Speaker 1: think you stuff was nicer. But also the fact that,
Speaker 1: like you could probably count how many things you took
Speaker 1: on one hand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I took so much stuff, and I think that the
Speaker 1: things that I've worn the most have been a pair
Speaker 1: of sweatpants that I took. Key and that's it. I
Speaker 1: took a T shirt, I took a card again, I
Speaker 1: had two of the same dress for like, because I
Speaker 1: was supposed to like eat all, you know, doing kind
Speaker 1: of like a lot of action in that dress, and
Speaker 1: took both home. I find stuff in my closet all
Speaker 1: the time that I'm like, where did I get this?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I took it home from from
Speaker 1: a visa and yeah, and have maybe worn the sweatpants
Speaker 1: and that's it. But and this is no burn to
Speaker 1: my character. Oh, I think I wore I had like
Speaker 1: to dress as a business lady once when my character
Speaker 1: was covering for your character at a business meeting, And
Speaker 1: I think I wore my business outfit once in an
Speaker 1: audition to play a different business woman.
Speaker 5: It's important to have a business woman audition outfit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was actually a good thing for me
Speaker 1: to take, right, Yes, that's key. But I feel like
Speaker 1: throughout the entire shoot, there's so many examples of you
Speaker 1: being much classier than me. But also I think it
Speaker 1: really came to a head and sort of like really
Speaker 1: was a very clear distinction at the end of that
Speaker 1: photo shoot.
Speaker 5: I don't see it that way at all, But I
Speaker 5: take the compliment, but that's not how I see it.
Speaker 4: Well, the well I think that's how I see it.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that I just thought of because
Speaker 1: I'm wearing the dress that I was talking about that
Speaker 1: I had two of. I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 1: and Jonah, you weren't here, but there were like a
Speaker 1: lot of like billboards and stuff going around LA that
Speaker 1: had like a photo of Gillian and Phoebe and I,
Speaker 1: you know, promoting this movie. And do you remember how
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to objectify.
Speaker 2: You have really nice arms. My arms.
Speaker 1: They made my arms so thin that it looks like
Speaker 1: it's so crazy how thin the pot I saw the
Speaker 1: posters and I was like, oh my god, my arms
Speaker 1: look really good in this. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, nobody's arms are like are like straight
Speaker 1: across like that, like where there's no like muscle definition.
Speaker 1: It's just I would draw arms like that like in
Speaker 1: middle school, if I was like drawing a person like
Speaker 1: almost like stick figure arms. If you see my arms
Speaker 1: in this thing, they've really done quite a number.
Speaker 5: I don't have a vivid memory of that. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have to go back and look at it. But I
Speaker 5: will also say that that movie is how I know
Speaker 5: you as well. Jonah because we got to hang out
Speaker 5: in New York. We finished filming the movie in New York,
Speaker 5: and we all went over to your apartment, Vanessa, and
Speaker 5: that's how I now know both Bear.
Speaker 2: And I remember too.
Speaker 1: I remember you would always be like, I'm such a dork,
Speaker 1: you know how like people say that, and You're like,
Speaker 1: you're really cool, and you're saying you're a dork and
Speaker 1: you can cut it out now.
Speaker 2: But and I'm not saying you're a dork, Gilly.
Speaker 1: And this is kind of like leading up to but
Speaker 1: I remember when we were at my apartment, you spent
Speaker 1: so much time looking at my bookshelf. You were so
Speaker 1: interested in the books I had in a way that
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Gili, and most of these books
Speaker 1: are for show.
Speaker 2: I've read about half, just kidding two thirds.
Speaker 1: But I remember having you over and we had a
Speaker 1: fancy pizza party and that was so fun. And actually,
Speaker 1: this might be crazy, but that might be the night
Speaker 1: that I met your now wife, Jonah Vicki.
Speaker 4: So it's possible. I was thinking about this before the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's possible that Gillian and I both met my now
Speaker 1: sister in law on the same night.
Speaker 3: I think it's yeah, I think that is true.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4: It was a momentous evening.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And my wife Vicky is an English professor, and I
Speaker 3: think you two were talking because Gill and your parents
Speaker 3: were English or somehow involved in literature something with you're
Speaker 3: just really books.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a dork who likes books.
Speaker 1: Okay, you said you were a dork and you proved it.
Speaker 2: That's not that didn't come up right, quite.
Speaker 4: Right, No, but it is.
Speaker 5: It is a bad habit I have of like when
Speaker 5: I go to people's homes of just compulsively looking at
Speaker 5: all the books on their bookshelves. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: know if that's like certifies me as a dork or not,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I can't think that's.
Speaker 1: Such a great quality to be interested in stuff like
Speaker 1: that and not just Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went to a Halloween party once and I didn't
Speaker 3: know anyone there. I knew the person throwing it, but
Speaker 3: didn't know anyone else. And it was like kind of
Speaker 3: a pagan like a celebration of Halloween. Like they were
Speaker 3: reading stuff and people had really elaborate outfits, and I
Speaker 3: went by myself, didn't know anyone was just like focused
Speaker 3: on these books, like and then it started and I
Speaker 3: was like, I gotta go, but my jacket was in
Speaker 3: like another room, and I had to like they were
Speaker 3: doing this whole ceremony. I had to like sneak in,
Speaker 3: get my jacket, get out. But I remember just, yeah,
Speaker 3: the books is a good move. But after a while
Speaker 3: you start to be like, I have to talk to someone,
Speaker 3: but I don't know how well.
Speaker 1: I like to think that Gillian was in a different
Speaker 1: position because she was at your apartment with a bunch
Speaker 1: of our friend So I don't think I don't use
Speaker 1: a difference s yeah, but I hear you.
Speaker 4: And you know what, that just gave me a flashback
Speaker 4: to too.
Speaker 1: That really stresses me out, you know how, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know why, because I guess we're adults now this
Speaker 1: doesn't happen as much.
Speaker 4: But do you.
Speaker 1: Remember in college and even like earlier twenties, like going
Speaker 1: to parties at people's houses and everybody would put their
Speaker 1: coat on like a bed in a room, and then
Speaker 1: like at the end of the party, you'd have to
Speaker 1: go through all the coats and it was so stressful
Speaker 1: and sometimes you'd be like, oh, I think my coat's gone,
Speaker 1: or I like I don't know which one is my
Speaker 1: I just had a flashback to that of like going
Speaker 1: and getting your coat and that being the most upsetting thing.
Speaker 5: And then the first time I went to a party
Speaker 5: where someone had a coat rack in the hallway outside
Speaker 5: their apartment, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, ooh, yes, so fancy, Yes, that seems incredible. I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine, but yeah, the coat thing is Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's also because does that happen to you still, Jonah,
Speaker 1: because we're in La so it's yeah, less, it's not
Speaker 1: really coat weather.
Speaker 3: I think as an adult. Honestly, more people just have closets,
Speaker 3: you know, and they're like, you can put your coat
Speaker 3: in the closet. They're not just like throw your dirty
Speaker 3: coat on my bed.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is very true, right right right right, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: this is a really good.
Speaker 5: Well you too are from Ohio. I'm from western Pennsylvania,
Speaker 5: so near to each other. I also have a bad
Speaker 5: habit of in cold weather just leaving my coat on
Speaker 5: for a really long time, even after I'm inside. Oh same,
Speaker 5: just walking around with a winter coat off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and didn't you get people. I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is true, but there's these people who are always like, well, actually,
Speaker 3: like if you don't take your coat off, like your
Speaker 3: coat will lose its power to keep you warm or something.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: You know people people, Yeah, you'll like you'll stay too
Speaker 5: warm and then when you go outside you'll be even
Speaker 5: more cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you didn't.
Speaker 4: Take your I definitely remember adults telling.
Speaker 3: You kind of want to be like, yeah, I just
Speaker 3: want to wear my coat. I don't need like your
Speaker 3: science lesson, which I don't know if that's actually even true.
Speaker 1: You know, I've done that here in California. Like, I'll
Speaker 1: leave my coat on sometimes because I'm just like I
Speaker 1: run a little cold, sure, and people are always like,
Speaker 1: are you leaving? And I'm like, no, I just I
Speaker 1: just got here. I just am wearing my coat, you psycho,
Speaker 1: it feels.
Speaker 4: Good to wear my coat.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm just like, what is everyone's problem all
Speaker 1: of a sudden with coat?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just can't wait for you to throw it
Speaker 4: on their bed.
Speaker 3: It's a real kind of though, know it all vibe
Speaker 3: to go up to someone and be like, actually you
Speaker 3: should take off your coat, you know, like it's like,
Speaker 3: let me just wear my coat. I don't need to
Speaker 3: I don't need to justify it to you.
Speaker 1: Can I ask another thing that a lot of people
Speaker 1: have been really supportive of me during this It's very
Speaker 1: hot here right now, and I still when I order coffee,
Speaker 1: I still have been ordering hot coffees mostly instead of
Speaker 1: iced coffee, and everyone's sort of instead of giving me shit.
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends and stuff had said, you know,
Speaker 1: they do say that hot coffee cools you down in
Speaker 1: hot weather. Is that a real thing or is that
Speaker 1: something that someone just starts saying and now everyone's repeating it.
Speaker 5: I've definitely heard it as well, but I've never read
Speaker 5: any literature for it, guess, but I've had that repeated
Speaker 5: to me too.
Speaker 1: It seems like, and I've brought this up before on here,
Speaker 1: somebody when I was younger told me that Mario Lopez
Speaker 1: and Jennifer Lopez were brother and sister, and I really
Speaker 1: spread it around because I thought it was true. That
Speaker 1: seems like similar to the hot coffee thing, where it's like,
Speaker 1: although I guess the hot coffee thing is more is
Speaker 1: sort of more popular. More people are saying that. And God,
Speaker 1: if I could remember who told me the Mario Lopez
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez thing, I'd come up to him and I'd say,
Speaker 1: you made me lie to about seventy people, probably over
Speaker 1: my early twenties. But the hot coffee thing, yeah, there
Speaker 1: must be some science to it, else someone would stop
Speaker 1: saying it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Here's the thing with
Speaker 3: like these food science things, though, if they say something
Speaker 3: and then like two weeks later, they will say, like,
Speaker 3: the opposite thing is true, right.
Speaker 4: Right right, right, right right right.
Speaker 1: A cup of coffee a day is good for you,
Speaker 1: and then they're like, don't drink any coffee, and then
Speaker 1: they're like, drink nine.
Speaker 4: Cups of coffee a day to get maximum benefit. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 5: It's confounding. I think the only way to resolve this
Speaker 5: is for people to leave you guys a five star
Speaker 5: review and write their opinions on hot versus ice coffee.
Speaker 4: That's right in the review.
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Now, Jonah, do you ever go on our podcast page
Speaker 1: and leave five stars?
Speaker 2: And I don't.
Speaker 3: I have, I have. I don't know if I can
Speaker 3: do it more than once, though. I think they probably
Speaker 3: know it's me because I think I'm luck.
Speaker 2: I think you can do it once a day.
Speaker 3: Oh No, I don't think. No, I don't think.
Speaker 4: That's true because I do it. I think because I do.
Speaker 3: Do Really, I thought you're like logged in under your
Speaker 3: name and you could just like kind of review you
Speaker 3: can do.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's why I think you can, because I've done it.
Speaker 2: I'll do it.
Speaker 1: I'll leave five stars, and it'll say thank you for
Speaker 1: your review, and then i'll come back like a half
Speaker 1: hour later, and I'll do it again, and it'll it
Speaker 1: won't say anything to me. But then if I come
Speaker 1: back the next day and I do it, it'll say thank
Speaker 1: you for your review.
Speaker 5: Are you counting the number of reviews?
Speaker 4: You should? We should clock how many reviews?
Speaker 1: So smart and something that it has truly never occurred
Speaker 1: to me to do, like even in real time, you
Speaker 1: could say how many reviews are here after I leave
Speaker 1: the review. Now, I don't want new listeners to go, oh,
Speaker 1: you know they've got all these five stars because their
Speaker 1: half of them are from Venessa, because that's not true.
Speaker 4: I'm a genuine fan of this podcast listener.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is like, oh my godcast that I
Speaker 5: was listening to and loving before I was ever asked
Speaker 5: to be on it. So I think it's worthy of
Speaker 5: a five star review.
Speaker 1: Wow, Gillian, that is so nice because I feel like
Speaker 1: you are a person who has like a very well
Speaker 1: round did and like you know, you're always working, you're
Speaker 1: always reading, You're always like out in the world. And
Speaker 1: the fact that you take time to listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast like all of our listeners, yes, is so nice.
Speaker 1: It really is very nice. I'm trying to think if
Speaker 1: we have any other funny stories from Abiza before we go,
Speaker 1: because wow, wow, did we have a lot of night shoots.
Speaker 5: Boy oh boy, talk about being cold. It went from
Speaker 5: very hot end of summer to fall while we were shooting.
Speaker 5: But a lot of the movie takes place in one night,
Speaker 5: which is why ven Usa had two dresses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of the same dress.
Speaker 5: And so I remember us going from just pouring sweat
Speaker 5: in these outfits to sitting by the water and truly
Speaker 5: having to do that magical acting thing, which is like
Speaker 5: somehow you can make yourself stop shivering when they call action.
Speaker 5: As soon as they call cut, you start shivering again.
Speaker 5: We were by the water and the wind was whipping,
Speaker 5: and I just remember them running in with blankets as
Speaker 5: soon as they would call cut. So I would have
Speaker 5: loved a nice winter coat and yeah.
Speaker 1: That would have been I think we had like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had like warming coats and then they would take
Speaker 1: them right off of us and then we would stop
Speaker 1: shivering and just shoot the scene. That's another thing that
Speaker 1: I think is always so funny is and something that
Speaker 1: you might not know, Jonah, because you haven't been in
Speaker 1: as many productions as Gillian and.
Speaker 4: I sorry sorry, is that the orange.
Speaker 1: Of department is like really well stocked usually with those
Speaker 1: handwarmers and footwarmers, and a lot of times they'll like
Speaker 1: put them in the back of your outfit and stuff.
Speaker 1: So because you're you're often so cold that that's like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I hadn't seen those things since like
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and then I remember, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they always have those warming things. Was that interesting?
Speaker 1: I can't tell.
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting.
Speaker 4: Little bts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, little bts. That's it's for behind the scenes for.
Speaker 3: Those of you. What were the scene and then there's
Speaker 3: a lot of scenes where you guys are at these
Speaker 3: like big dance clubs. Were those like actual like were
Speaker 3: those extras or that was like an actual thing that
Speaker 3: was happening.
Speaker 4: So those were extras?
Speaker 3: Extra?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But we had a little room that we It
Speaker 1: was so funny because, oh my god, we.
Speaker 6: Had a holding room for the cast at one of
Speaker 6: these nightclubs, but one of the walls was a glass
Speaker 6: wall that looked into a public pool, so we would
Speaker 6: watch people swimming laps and like children having swim lessons,
Speaker 6: and on the other side if it was a group
Speaker 6: of actors sitting in cass chairs.
Speaker 1: It was also so funny because it was like so
Speaker 1: many of the extras and so they were so they
Speaker 1: were like, this is like awesome, Like they were getting
Speaker 1: to like dance and like be in a club, and
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: a club ever, like in my whole life. And so
Speaker 1: it was like pretending to have fun and then like
Speaker 1: basically just getting to dance a lot and then having
Speaker 1: to like go into that holding room and be like
Speaker 1: where are the snacks?
Speaker 5: I gotta sit down, But also like staring at people
Speaker 5: swimming and them staring at us.
Speaker 2: Oh, staring at the people swimming was so funny.
Speaker 1: They were just sort of like, what's what's.
Speaker 2: Going on here?
Speaker 3: So you could see each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was glass, they could see through it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a strange setup.
Speaker 1: It was a strange setup, and we were just in
Speaker 1: a different country and it was a lot of culture shock.
Speaker 4: I will say.
Speaker 1: One other thing I want to mention was that when
Speaker 1: we were in Serbia, the food like a lot of
Speaker 1: times we would order room service from our hotel when
Speaker 1: we were like because you know, we would be filming
Speaker 1: at night and so we would need like food during
Speaker 1: the day, but we'd mostly be sleeping during the day
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: So the thing that we learned was that the chefs
Speaker 1: like to make their own mark on each entree. So
Speaker 1: it would be like you'd order one thing from room service.
Speaker 1: For me, I ordered this salmon entree a lot, and
Speaker 1: then I would order the same thing the next day
Speaker 1: and it would be completely different, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: why is this totally different than what I got yesterday?
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, the chef wants to leave his mark,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, well, I actually don't want that,
Speaker 1: Like I just want to have some kind of consistency
Speaker 1: and know what I'm going to get when I ordered
Speaker 1: the same thing.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: That does remind me of another thing, though, which is
Speaker 5: that Vanessa did the best job I've ever seen of
Speaker 5: packing snacks for a long trip. Okay, you had all
Speaker 5: the best snacks, yes, that I brought with me from
Speaker 5: the US. Yes, that's right, Vanessa had by far the
Speaker 5: best snacks.
Speaker 1: Because I brought I think I brought a lot of
Speaker 1: RX bars, yes, and packs of nuts maybe yes, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think what else I brought.
Speaker 2: And packs of nut butter.
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I think I brought blueberry RX bars.
Speaker 4: I think I brought the chocolate.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got it. We think we got our go
Speaker 3: to commercial.
Speaker 4: We're dististing snacks. Sorry, I was just making myself hungry. Okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna go to quick commercial break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with our friend Gilly and Jacobs
Speaker 1: five stars. Okay, and we're back now, Gillian, And if
Speaker 1: anyone wants to ask me more about what I packed
Speaker 1: in my suitcase to bring to this, check.
Speaker 3: It out a big money player's diamond.
Speaker 1: We'll put some bonus footage on there with that. Now, Gillian,
Speaker 1: we're really excited about your topic today because and spoiler
Speaker 1: alert and surprise surprise, I remember this way better than Jonah.
Speaker 1: But it's something that we were very into as kids,
Speaker 1: which is free to be you and me.
Speaker 2: Now, Gillian, why did you want to talk about this.
Speaker 5: Free to Be You and Me was very important to
Speaker 5: me as a child because the very first acting class
Speaker 5: I took when I was about eight years old, Wow,
Speaker 5: we performed sketches from Free to Be You.
Speaker 2: I did that once too when I was a little older.
Speaker 4: But yes, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Sorry no, no, no, that's so cool. Yes, And so
Speaker 5: I loved it. And then my mom used to play
Speaker 5: the album all the time at home because there there
Speaker 5: was like a song about housework. I remember her playing
Speaker 5: for me a lot, and so my mom and I
Speaker 5: listened to it all the time. I had the book
Speaker 5: of it. I had the second album as well, and
Speaker 5: then a few years ago I kind of got re
Speaker 5: obsessed with it. I pitched the editors at Glamour magazine
Speaker 5: and I got to interview Marlo Thomas about.
Speaker 4: Free to Be You and Me.
Speaker 5: So it was really cool to talk to her because listener,
Speaker 5: if you don't know the actress Marlo Thomas, that was
Speaker 5: it was her idea entirely. She conceived of it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: she put it together. It was it was her brainchild.
Speaker 5: It was so important, you know, for us and so
Speaker 5: many kids out there, that album was really a big
Speaker 5: part of our childhoods and so it was so cool
Speaker 5: to be able to talk to her about it.
Speaker 4: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: And yes, to expand on what Gillian was saying, it
Speaker 1: was this children's entertainment project Conceive, created and executive produced
Speaker 1: by Carla Thomas and in collaboration with the Mis Foundation
Speaker 1: for Women, which I didn't realize that I did not
Speaker 1: know that, which is this foundation, this nonprofit organization for
Speaker 1: women which had a deep commitment to diversity and to
Speaker 1: deliver strategic resources to groups which elevated women's and girls
Speaker 1: voices and solutions across race and class in communities nationwides.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it was like initially it was like
Speaker 1: a record, an album and a book and we had
Speaker 1: both too, and we would listen to.
Speaker 2: It all the time as kids were there.
Speaker 1: Any because just even doing a little research for today,
Speaker 1: there were so many that I immediately were like so
Speaker 1: always playing in our house.
Speaker 5: I felt, Yeah, there was one that was like the
Speaker 5: story of Atalanta. I was a retelling of it where
Speaker 5: she's her father wants her to get married and they're
Speaker 5: these suitors that are going to run in this race
Speaker 5: and the winner is going to marry her, and then
Speaker 5: she decides that she's going to run the race herself,
Speaker 5: and she doesn't want to get married, and she's going
Speaker 5: to get married when she feels like it, and if
Speaker 5: she feels like.
Speaker 4: It, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5: And the one I performed when I was little was
Speaker 5: got to know this, Yes, was It's two babies who
Speaker 5: have just been born?
Speaker 1: Asking Jonah if you remember this one, because this was
Speaker 1: always on the album.
Speaker 2: This was always playing our house.
Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead, no, no, yeah, you remember it too.
Speaker 5: It was two babies in a hospital have just been born.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I could probably find a picture of me
Speaker 5: performing in that sketch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would love to see you guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: And were there like hi? Weren't they like Hi?
Speaker 4: Hi, I'm a baby boy? Yes, exactly. Yes.
Speaker 5: And also the amazing thing that I have now come
Speaker 5: to appreciate as an adult, which didn't really register with
Speaker 5: me when I was a kid, was all the incredible
Speaker 5: performers she got, all the Tudians and singers and amazing
Speaker 5: you have it in front of you.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have it in front of me.
Speaker 1: It was her and Allen Alda, Rosie Greer, Cicily Tyson,
Speaker 1: Caryl Channing, Michael Jackson, ROBERTA Flex, Shirley Jones, Jack Cassidy,
Speaker 1: Diana Ross.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it was amazing. The other reason the
Speaker 5: house there was the housework one. I think when I
Speaker 5: was little, I had a short haircut and my grandmother
Speaker 5: always told me I looked like Carol Channing, and Carol
Speaker 5: Channing performed the housework oh number. And so that's probably
Speaker 5: also why I listened to it a lot, because my
Speaker 5: grandma told me, I look like Carol Channing.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yes, we would listen to it so much, we would
Speaker 1: read it so much. And then when I was in
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was in middle school, but
Speaker 1: I know that we performed it in our middle school
Speaker 1: Brady Middle School stage, like that's where we did it.
Speaker 1: But our after school theater program I did, we did
Speaker 1: Free to Be You and Me. And I just asked
Speaker 1: my friends Jenny and Kitty to like confirm that this
Speaker 1: is true. And I remember this song that I sang,
Speaker 1: I only got one verse. I was kind of that
Speaker 1: was kind of my thing in like middle schools. I
Speaker 1: was kind of like underappreciated it.
Speaker 3: And that's some issues previous cast from middle school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple times they've kind of shafted me. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's all fine, It all worked out, okay.
Speaker 1: I remember I sang one verse from Mommies are people.
Speaker 2: Do you guys want to hear a little bit of it?
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: This is what I spoke for on myself. That's what
Speaker 4: I remember.
Speaker 1: Mommies are people, people with children, busy with children and
Speaker 1: things that they do. There are a lot of things
Speaker 1: a lot of mommies can't do. And then it was
Speaker 1: like this, some mommies are tectors and boetry singers and
Speaker 1: nectars and teachers and lawyers and them saying, and mommies
Speaker 1: drive taxi. There are some mommies are taxis. They're sing
Speaker 1: on the moon. I don't think it's Lenda on the
Speaker 1: Moon or something like that. Oh, mommies can do almost
Speaker 1: anything they want to do. And then it's like accept
Speaker 1: the daddies or something, and then they're like daddies are people,
Speaker 1: and then it's like parents are people or something like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe after that, I think any correct.
Speaker 4: Do you guys think I did a good job provo?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was yeah, yeah, I think pretty good.
Speaker 1: The other song that I think I might have had
Speaker 1: a vers in was It's all right to Cry, which
Speaker 1: was a favorite. That's such a good song. It's about
Speaker 1: how crying is. Okay, do you want to hear a
Speaker 1: little of that? Yes, Jonah, Yes, yes, Gillian?
Speaker 4: Are you so happy you did this?
Speaker 5: I'm thrilled because you're bringing back so many more memories
Speaker 5: from my childhood.
Speaker 1: You started it by having this great topic. Okay, this
Speaker 1: goes like this, Jonah. If you don't remember, because I
Speaker 1: think Gillian does, it's.
Speaker 4: All right to cry. Crying gets the sad out of you.
Speaker 4: It's all right.
Speaker 2: You can sing a long if you want.
Speaker 1: You, Gilly, you don't want to hear it might make
Speaker 1: you feel better.
Speaker 4: It's all right to feel things.
Speaker 1: So the feelings be strange feelings. Jonah's dead enough, real things.
Speaker 1: And then this is where the fun part comes in,
Speaker 1: and they change and change and change some remember it
Speaker 1: goes like this, sad and grumpy down in the dumpies
Speaker 1: in and then it's in and it might make you
Speaker 1: feel better, and then it goes on from there.
Speaker 4: Beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I think I was in when
Speaker 1: we performed this in middle school was and I just
Speaker 1: looked it up because I was like, did I make
Speaker 1: this up?
Speaker 2: But I didn't the ladies first one? Do you remember
Speaker 2: that one?
Speaker 4: Gillian?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and she gets eaten by a lion, Yes,
Speaker 5: by a tiger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was like.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think this is about a little
Speaker 1: girl who's like always saying ladies first, and then she
Speaker 1: gets eaten by a tiger, and I thought that can't
Speaker 1: be right, but I looked it up and it is
Speaker 1: what happened in this What is so basically the point
Speaker 1: of it is that she's sort of a narcissist, I think,
Speaker 1: and she entitled narcissist, entitled narcissist, and it's Marlo Thomas
Speaker 1: reading it on the album and it's this little it's
Speaker 1: like this short story about this girl who she's like
Speaker 1: always like ladies first, ladies first, and she is really
Speaker 1: patent leather shoes, do you remember that?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: And like white socks, and sort of like when she's
Speaker 1: in the lunch line, she says like ladies first, and
Speaker 1: she cuts to the front of the line. She sort
Speaker 1: of is really entitled. I think she's an entitled narcissist.
Speaker 1: And then one day, for some reason, her class takes
Speaker 1: a trip deep into like the jungle.
Speaker 5: I don't remember the specifics of how she comes to
Speaker 5: etten by a tiger, but.
Speaker 2: That's what happens.
Speaker 4: She gets.
Speaker 1: They go to the jungle, and then a bunch of tigers.
Speaker 1: This is where it gets really kind of out of hand.
Speaker 1: A bunch of tigers like tie up all the kids. Okay,
Speaker 1: which you go, I don't remember that.
Speaker 3: I don't remember this.
Speaker 2: I just reread it really quickly.
Speaker 1: I might be getting some of the details wrong, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'm getting most of them right. Okay,
Speaker 1: the tigers tie up all the kids, and then they're like,
Speaker 1: who should we eat first?
Speaker 2: And she keeps.
Speaker 1: Going ladies first, ladies first, which it's like, even if
Speaker 1: you're titled narcissists, like have a sense of like.
Speaker 3: Read the room right exactly.
Speaker 4: Wow, But yeah, I'm gonna have to go back to
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 1: But then like right when they're like trying to figure
Speaker 1: out who to eat first, she says ladies first. And
Speaker 1: then the end of the poem or story or whatever
Speaker 1: is like and boy was she delicious, And it's like
Speaker 1: feels like a and this is no burn on Marlo Thomas,
Speaker 1: so absolutely you know, iconic adore, but it's like a little.
Speaker 4: Messed up that one may have lost the plot.
Speaker 1: The point of these stories was to teach.
Speaker 2: The lesson of like, don't be an entitled narcissist.
Speaker 3: This sounds like a book like I'm surprised that, like
Speaker 3: Rhonda Santa saysn't tried to like ban this book if
Speaker 3: you like this message is too controversial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably were he to be listening right now,
Speaker 1: And he might be because, as we've discussed, he's only
Speaker 1: a year older than you.
Speaker 3: Don't not just like it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would make him listen to this,
Speaker 1: but he is in our age group, which is unbelievably.
Speaker 2: Something has ever made us feel older.
Speaker 1: But he probably doesn't know about it, because, you know what,
Speaker 1: he probably hasn't didn't do a lot as a kid
Speaker 1: read books.
Speaker 5: I just had a memory of when I got on
Speaker 5: the phone with Marlo Thomas.
Speaker 4: To do the interview.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: So she you know, her father founded Saint Jude's Children's Hospital.
Speaker 4: Right right, right right, And she's in all those commercials.
Speaker 5: Yes, and so she and her brother have carried on
Speaker 5: the legacy and they do commercials and huge fundraising drives
Speaker 5: every year and they raise I don't think I'm exaggerating
Speaker 5: to say they've raised over a billion.
Speaker 4: I think it's billion dollars for this Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I watched General Hospital and there's.
Speaker 5: All ye and I grew up watching General Hospital. I
Speaker 5: loved that episode of this podcast because I would run
Speaker 5: home and watch General Hospital every day.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm so bad it resonated with you, Gillian, but I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I interrupted you.
Speaker 4: I sure, so a billion dollars?
Speaker 5: When you know her publicist approached her about this interview,
Speaker 5: I don't think that they told her that it was
Speaker 5: about Free to Be You and me. So when we
Speaker 5: got on the oh my gosh, she said, no, honey, why.
Speaker 4: Do you want to talk to me?
Speaker 5: Is it about about Saint Jude's What do you want
Speaker 5: to talk to me about? And I'm like, no, I
Speaker 5: want to talk to you about Free to Be You
Speaker 5: and me? And I grew upless and she's like, oh okay.
Speaker 5: And then I talked to her for so long that
Speaker 5: at one point she had to go, Honey, I have
Speaker 5: a dinner reservation.
Speaker 4: I gotta go. And that's like, get me off the phone.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. That's so how so
Speaker 1: what were some of the things. Were there sort of
Speaker 1: things about it that she told you about, like the
Speaker 1: creating of it or anything that we're really surprising to you.
Speaker 5: The part that I didn't know and you touched on
Speaker 5: was the collaboration with MS magazine, And I didn't know, yeah,
Speaker 5: as a child, that she had put the entire project together.
Speaker 5: Another thing she told me that I didn't know was
Speaker 5: that the show that she starred in, That Girl, which
Speaker 5: was like an iconic television show, that was actually her idea.
Speaker 5: And I don't think she has a like creator or
Speaker 5: producer credit on it, but she pitched that show in
Speaker 5: her twenties and really like conceived of the whole thing.
Speaker 5: So I was just kind of in awe of you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's we think of it right now as like
Speaker 5: a much more contemporary idea of actresses conceiving of their
Speaker 5: own projects and creating them or producing and putting them together.
Speaker 5: And I was just kind of blown away by the
Speaker 5: fact that she was doing all of this decades before you.
Speaker 4: Really thought about.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, like Lucille Ball, there have been people
Speaker 5: throughout Hollywood history doing it, but yeah, she was really
Speaker 5: the driving force I think in so many of the
Speaker 5: projects that people know her from.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's really incredible.
Speaker 1: And it said also she worked with Gloria Steinem the miss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really amazing. And now who is I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: go from such incredible facts about her to ask you this,
Speaker 1: but who is she married to?
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna ask me that it's Phil Donahue.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: I knew she was married to someone who is Like, now,
Speaker 1: did she talk about Phil at all in the interview?
Speaker 1: This is the lowest. This is like such low hanging
Speaker 1: fruit for me to be like, Yeah, she was. She
Speaker 1: was created all of her own stuff. She was such
Speaker 1: a like, she was so influential on so many women.
Speaker 1: She started such a movement. And I'm like, and who's
Speaker 1: Who's her husband? He's funny, right.
Speaker 4: I think that I think the only way.
Speaker 5: We touched bottom was I think they had Yes, she
Speaker 5: had to go to meet Phil. But I think they
Speaker 5: did some project about their marriage or long. You know,
Speaker 5: they've been married for a few decades now. I think
Speaker 5: they did a project within the last couple of years
Speaker 5: since I interviewed her all about their marriage.
Speaker 4: So you could probably get her on this pod. I
Speaker 4: you should get her on this podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, God, I have a serious question. When
Speaker 3: they got to dig that, do you think that makes
Speaker 3: the reservation under the name Marla Thomas or Phil Donahue, like.
Speaker 4: Who you can't lose?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, do you think they trade off? Like
Speaker 3: which one are they going with?
Speaker 2: It's a win win, it's a win win.
Speaker 1: I think it depends where you are, because I think
Speaker 1: if you're in New York or La not to be
Speaker 1: that person.
Speaker 3: Okay, not one of those fly over states where we're
Speaker 3: all from.
Speaker 2: I think you use Marlo Thomas.
Speaker 1: But I think if you are in you know, in
Speaker 1: Ohio or a Pennsylvania where we're from a hometown, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I think you go with Thomas, no matter.
Speaker 3: It depends what kind of restaurant.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, yeah, maybe if you're in the deep deep
Speaker 1: deep deep South, you do Donahue because wasn't his Now
Speaker 1: I don't mean to take us up topic, but was
Speaker 1: his brand? It like fell somewhere between Jerry Springer and
Speaker 1: like heralda Heraldo R.
Speaker 4: Like it was like he was sort of Heraldo adjacent, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it was a less insane like
Speaker 3: Coraldo got the chair broken over his head or was
Speaker 3: that on Donahue when the.
Speaker 4: Ringer got the chair broken over his head. Did Donahue?
Speaker 4: Donna Hue was like a lit.
Speaker 5: I think you guys should have a Sally Jesse Raphael
Speaker 5: Phil Donahue episode and you find out from their childhood
Speaker 5: what were they watching and listening to?
Speaker 1: Oh I would love to do that now, can I
Speaker 1: tell you something else? You know, sometimes you think who
Speaker 1: are these people married to? Because you want to know?
Speaker 1: Do you want to number who Connie Chung? Do you
Speaker 1: remember Connie Chung?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Who I actually met once at SNL And there's a
Speaker 1: photo she came to SNEL because she was friendly with
Speaker 1: one of our wardrobe people or something because they used
Speaker 1: to work with her. And there's a photo of me
Speaker 1: meeting her and being so excited and you can tell
Speaker 1: by our body language that I'm really leaning in and
Speaker 1: she's really leaning out, like I'm really leaning towards her,
Speaker 1: and she's like she's like trying to back away. It's
Speaker 1: like such a funny photo that like says with El's
Speaker 1: words without saying anything. But Connie Chung was always a
Speaker 1: huge fan of her. She was a journalist and maybe
Speaker 1: still is I don't know, but do you know who
Speaker 1: she's married to.
Speaker 5: Deep in the recesses of my mind, I know it's
Speaker 5: a very famous person, but I can't fill Donahue adjacent.
Speaker 3: Is it's like an action star or something.
Speaker 1: She's married to, And I'm blinking on his name, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna absolutely blow this. But I can see him
Speaker 1: in my head. Not Phil Donahue, but someone's so similar.
Speaker 1: That's what made me think of it. And they're both
Speaker 1: in some way journalists. But I think calling her husband
Speaker 1: a journalist.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it. Maury Povich.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, she's married to Mary Povich.
Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild?
Speaker 5: You know, it's a small world when you get down
Speaker 5: to it, all these news journalism people. They must be
Speaker 5: going to the same cocktail parties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think. And you know who really
Speaker 1: fell off the face of this earth?
Speaker 3: Jenny Jones, Connie Chung, Mary Povid.
Speaker 1: You got it.
Speaker 3: You're making the reservation under Connie's name.
Speaker 1: I think you're making it under Connie. Yeah, yeah, big time.
Speaker 1: Although he's only Maury, so it's like he's kind of right.
Speaker 1: So people might not even know Pulvich. They might hear
Speaker 1: that and go that means nothing to.
Speaker 3: Me because they's a chance like Maury more Right, wasn't
Speaker 3: that the thing?
Speaker 5: I know?
Speaker 4: It was Jerry?
Speaker 1: You keep taking a lot of Jerry attributes and putting
Speaker 1: them on the jelly.
Speaker 3: We should definitely not host its show in this topic
Speaker 3: because we are getting everyone confused.
Speaker 4: A really great show. Who are you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which thing did you do?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: There were so many? Right, because there was also Ricky Lake. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she had a big show.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that show is huge, and she was a
Speaker 1: child actor and she made.
Speaker 5: A real rosie rosie actress to talk show hosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't forget about Oprah? How could you?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Anyways, back to Marlo Thomas, was there anything else from
Speaker 1: your interview with her that free to be you and
Speaker 1: me related or not that was stood out?
Speaker 5: The other thing is, you know, I knew her connection
Speaker 5: to Saint Jude because of seeing the TV commercials my
Speaker 5: whole life, but just realizing that her father had started
Speaker 5: this hospital to help children, and.
Speaker 2: So crazy that he started it.
Speaker 4: That is so crazy that that really blew my mind. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, she's just sort of all around impressive woman,
Speaker 5: which was made me sad when I got on the phone.
Speaker 4: She said, why do you want to talk to me?
Speaker 4: I'm like, why wouldn't I want to talk yours?
Speaker 5: So incredible, But yeah, I really chatted her ear off.
Speaker 4: But she was really gracious to allow me to do that.
Speaker 5: I had a good run with Glamor Magazine where I
Speaker 5: would just kind of call them and say, can I
Speaker 5: can you get this person on the phone. The really
Speaker 5: elusive person, the person who's turned me down twice for
Speaker 5: two publications, is Danielle Steel. She Oh, I've never been
Speaker 5: able to get her to agree to an interview.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Is she sort of like infamously doesn't do interviews? Is
Speaker 1: that like a thing about her?
Speaker 5: She doesn't do a lot of interviews. And she very
Speaker 5: famously works. I don't think I'm exaggerating to say I
Speaker 5: think she works about twenty hours a day.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: She is I think one of the She is one
Speaker 5: of the best selling authors of all time. Wow, she's
Speaker 5: the best selling living author. She's incredibly prolific. I don't
Speaker 5: even know how many books she's published, because she publishes
Speaker 5: multiple books a year. She's working on something like seven
Speaker 5: books at all times and in various stages. And I
Speaker 5: don't think I'm exaggerating to say that she works about
Speaker 5: twenty hours a day.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: If you were to ask me who's the number one
Speaker 1: selling living author, I'm going to say John Grisham, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say Stephen King. I would not think it
Speaker 1: would be Danielle Steele. Good for her that she's Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's right up there with like Agatha Christie.
Speaker 5: I mean I think she's, you know, not far behind her,
Speaker 5: and yeah, she's It does not seem like she's slowed
Speaker 5: down at all.
Speaker 4: So the response I got back was she's too.
Speaker 1: Busy, And I was gonna say that she needs four
Speaker 1: hours at least to sleep and eat.
Speaker 2: So she's writing for twenty hours a day.
Speaker 1: But that's incredible because she's also got to be how
Speaker 1: old do you think she is now to still be working.
Speaker 4: At that pace.
Speaker 3: She's seventy five.
Speaker 4: She's seventy five. Wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. You know another author who's featured in Free
Speaker 3: to Be You and Me is shel Silverstein. Oh, kil
Speaker 3: and do any thoughts because I feel like where the
Speaker 3: sidewalk ends. Like, as kids, those books were like everyone one.
Speaker 5: Hundred percent absolutely absolutely. I think I owned many Shell
Speaker 5: Silversteain books as a child that also is feeling like
Speaker 5: in some acting class as a child, we probably performed
Speaker 5: Shell Silverstein poems.
Speaker 4: Doesn't that feel right?
Speaker 1: Yes, he'ven one hundred percent. Great little monologues sort of
Speaker 1: for kids.
Speaker 5: Yes, great little monologues for kids. That's our new book, Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Yes, great little monologues for narcissistic kids. Not that we
Speaker 1: were narcissistic, but I mean, we don't know. One other
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say was when I interned in
Speaker 1: New York. It was like my first time living in
Speaker 1: New York. One summer in college, I went and saw,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the theater at, this really small theater,
Speaker 1: they did a production of Free to Be You and
Speaker 1: Me and Daphne Rubin Vega was in it from the
Speaker 1: original cast of Rent. And it was just a four
Speaker 1: people production and it made me cry. I cried like
Speaker 1: through the whole thing. So I guess I just wanted
Speaker 1: to brag about that. But it is such a good
Speaker 1: It is such an emotional Like as much as we're
Speaker 1: like saying, you know, like the thing about you know,
Speaker 1: the tiger eating the girls, like there's some weird stuff
Speaker 1: in there, but like overall, it is such an emotionally intelligent,
Speaker 1: just beautiful thing. I really think it was an a
Speaker 1: credible thing for us to always be playing in our
Speaker 1: to always be playing in our house as kids, even
Speaker 1: though Jonah doesn't remember it at all.
Speaker 5: Is the big conceit of this podcast. Realizing what Jonah
Speaker 5: doesn't remember.
Speaker 3: It's almost like we had two separate childhoods, because I
Speaker 3: feel like I remember some things very well, but so
Speaker 3: much of it I have like zero recollection of.
Speaker 4: You were running that book scam you had on your mind.
Speaker 3: I feel like Borders Corporate it's gonna I've been talking
Speaker 3: about it on so many podcasts, Jonah.
Speaker 1: Lucky for you, I don't think Borders Corporate exists anymore.
Speaker 4: Did you have B Dalton Books?
Speaker 3: Was that a chip?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: I remember, Jonah.
Speaker 2: Isn't that where you got your scam books from?
Speaker 3: No? I got them from Walden Books?
Speaker 2: Oh right, Yeah, we had B Dalton.
Speaker 3: We had B Dalton, Yeah, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: they had the same setup with like those sale books,
Speaker 3: you know, the sale hardcover books.
Speaker 4: Right right right for you to run your scam with.
Speaker 3: Kilan. Did you ever do any sort of scam in
Speaker 3: high school?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a very nervous person. So I don't think
Speaker 5: I was scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I was nervous too, That's why I was
Speaker 3: using that fake ID. But it turned out to be
Speaker 3: the thing that sunk me.
Speaker 4: That's right. No, I was so scared.
Speaker 5: I remember my cousin took me to a house party
Speaker 5: and people were smoking weed and I was so afraid
Speaker 5: that I tried to hold my breath for the entirety
Speaker 5: of the party. It was a real scaredy cat. So no,
Speaker 5: I don't think so. Another topic that I almost put
Speaker 5: on my list for today was just libraries because I
Speaker 5: loved going to the library as a kid so much.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, And did you do book it like we did?
Speaker 1: We've talked about that in here before. It's like it
Speaker 1: was a thing through Pizza Hut and the government maybe
Speaker 1: where you would like you would like read as many
Speaker 1: books as you could and then you would get a
Speaker 1: pizza party or a personal pan pizza from Pizza Hut.
Speaker 5: No, but I remember my school participated, My elementary school
Speaker 5: participates in a million minutes of reading?
Speaker 4: Did you do that?
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was your state's version of book
Speaker 1: It could have been Ohio versus Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Maybe what was million minutes of reading?
Speaker 5: We all had to log the amount of minutes that
Speaker 5: we read at home. We had to have had stressful Yeah,
Speaker 5: so if you read a book for twenty minutes, you
Speaker 5: had to write the title and the amount of time
Speaker 5: you read.
Speaker 4: And then I think collectively as.
Speaker 5: A school, I don't know if we were trying to
Speaker 5: personally get to we're a small elementary school. I don't
Speaker 5: know how we could have done a million minutes, but
Speaker 5: we were all supposed to be tracking the amount of
Speaker 5: minutes we read at home and turning in these sheets.
Speaker 4: That's what I remember.
Speaker 5: And then I remember all of us the entire elementary
Speaker 5: school on like the soccer field.
Speaker 4: Did you ever do like a photo or of the.
Speaker 5: Entire elementary school where you're trying to like spell out
Speaker 5: a word or something.
Speaker 3: We would do it.
Speaker 1: We did it as a two thousand for because we
Speaker 1: were the class of two thousand.
Speaker 5: So that was something about that we were all on
Speaker 5: the field in forming maybe read. I can't remember the
Speaker 5: word okay, okay, you're forming, And that was I think
Speaker 5: we had been successful in our reading, and we took
Speaker 5: a celebratory picture.
Speaker 2: Wow, I remember how many minutes is in a day.
Speaker 4: Do we think I'm not a big enough rent fan
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 5: Able to know?
Speaker 3: Okay, fourteen hundred and forty minutes in a day?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, how do you measure a million minutes or reading?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Wait fourteen? How many did you say, Jannah?
Speaker 3: Fourteen forty fourteen thousand, fourteen hundred, fourteen hundred sixty minutes
Speaker 3: in an hour? There's twenty four?
Speaker 2: How many days is a million minutes?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 3: Lucas exciting stuff.
Speaker 5: Let's go back to what other snacks did you PACKSA
Speaker 5: I don't think we had an exhausted complete list.
Speaker 4: I also remember that they I had never had kinder
Speaker 4: Bueno before we went to.
Speaker 2: It was probably flipping out about it.
Speaker 5: It was so so delicious, and I remember the PA
Speaker 5: is sort of like bribing us to come to set
Speaker 5: with kinder Bueno.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kinderbueno, for those of you who don't know, is
Speaker 1: a European candy that I think it's a German candy
Speaker 1: that has hazel nut in it. So delicious chocolate and
Speaker 1: hazel nut and you know what's not to like?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonah, did you look up how many days is
Speaker 2: a million minutes?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It's six hundred and ninety four point four days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's even more than a name that they wanted
Speaker 1: your school to get to.
Speaker 3: That that's a lot. Do you still go to the library.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love the library me too.
Speaker 3: And you know what, And I know this is going
Speaker 3: to sound like coming from the book scam guy not
Speaker 3: maybe not great, but you know, my library doesn't have
Speaker 3: late fees anymore. They completely got rid of them.
Speaker 4: Oof, gorgeous.
Speaker 3: If it's coming from a different library, sometimes they will
Speaker 3: charge you, but I asked them. I was like, how
Speaker 3: long do you charge light fees? And they're like, no,
Speaker 3: so you can kind of just like keep a book
Speaker 3: forever if you want. I mean I would never do that,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying you could.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: The library offers so many resources, like I agree, get
Speaker 5: digital book copies through your library. They offer accounting advice too.
Speaker 5: There's so many things I love to just I you
Speaker 5: know what, there's a lot of great articles on the
Speaker 5: LA Public Library website that. Yes, I've read the entire
Speaker 5: history of the Hollywood branch of the Public Library. There
Speaker 5: were fires, several different buildings.
Speaker 4: They threw the initial ones. I've spent a fair amount
Speaker 4: of time.
Speaker 3: Here's my problem with the digital stuff at the library.
Speaker 3: And I think I got into this when I lived
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. The library they treat it like it's still
Speaker 3: like there's finite copies of it, so you used to
Speaker 3: like wait for it, and I'm like, well, why can't
Speaker 3: you just let everyone bar at the same time. What's
Speaker 3: the difference? Yeah, And I remember them being like, you're
Speaker 3: like fifth in line for this digital book, and it's like,
Speaker 3: what is.
Speaker 5: That an agreement with the publishers maybe to like force
Speaker 5: the library to buy more copies of the digital book.
Speaker 3: I guess I couldn't wrap my head around it because
Speaker 3: I was like, I do actually do have a digital
Speaker 3: book kind of scam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a scam. You've taught me.
Speaker 3: If you have a kindle or something and you get
Speaker 3: books from like Libby or from the library, you can
Speaker 3: downloat them all get them on your kindle, and then
Speaker 3: you turn off the Wi Fi and then they can't
Speaker 3: take the book back, but the next person in line
Speaker 3: will still get it because it isn't a physical thing.
Speaker 3: So you can keep the books as long. You can't
Speaker 3: download new books, but you can keep them on there
Speaker 3: as long as you want there. You go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So that's that's a kind of a win wind scam
Speaker 3: for everyone.
Speaker 2: Right, because no one is missing on on a book
Speaker 2: just because you.
Speaker 4: Kept it longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, love it.
Speaker 4: Cool stuff, pretty cool stuff. You know what else is
Speaker 4: like I'll tell you.
Speaker 5: This story and then say if I was right or
Speaker 5: wrong and calling myself a dork. Okay, When I first
Speaker 5: would come to Los Angeles, I was so overwhelmed by
Speaker 5: the city and I didn't know where to go or
Speaker 5: what to do. So I would go to the Beverly
Speaker 5: Hills Public Library and I would get there so early
Speaker 5: I would be waiting for it to open, and just
Speaker 5: my idea of a fun day was just to go
Speaker 5: wander the stacks at the Beverly Hills Public Library.
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean I think he answered your own question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I did.
Speaker 3: What section are you heading to first? What's your first stop?
Speaker 5: You know, I was quite frugal, so I think periodical.
Speaker 5: So I was catching up on my magazines right right, Oh,
Speaker 5: art book section, like I photography books. Then maybe check
Speaker 5: out a fiction, you know, check out a novel. I
Speaker 5: was hitting all the different areas.
Speaker 1: I got very into the library in New York, and
Speaker 1: I somehow because it was whatever library went to the
Speaker 1: first section you saw that was closest to the door
Speaker 1: was the children's section, and so I like, reread A
Speaker 1: Wrinkle in Time, and I started reading all these children's books.
Speaker 1: But also that what I was going to say after
Speaker 1: that is you know how when you go to a
Speaker 1: bookstore and you're like, I'm looking for a new book,
Speaker 1: and then the people there are so nice and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you'd like this, and then they'll be like, this
Speaker 1: book's actually really good too, it's about this thing, and oh,
Speaker 1: her new book is really good, and you go to me,
Speaker 1: that's a different world.
Speaker 2: Because I don't read a lot.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Wow, what must my life be if I
Speaker 4: was a person who was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've read. I read her first two novels. I
Speaker 1: thought they were so good. I'm so excited to read
Speaker 1: her new one. I wish I was a little lady
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. I'm not saying little,
Speaker 1: I just mean I wish I was an elegant lady
Speaker 1: like that who goes, oh, I is that her new one.
Speaker 2: I've been waiting. I was waiting for that one to
Speaker 2: come out.
Speaker 5: I met someone who does not respond to any phone
Speaker 5: calls her emails before noon because until noon every day
Speaker 5: he only reads Wow, so if you want to talk
Speaker 5: to this person, you have to wait until afternoon.
Speaker 4: Is he kind of like not the greatest personality? I
Speaker 4: found it inspiring, But okay, that's what a door could say.
Speaker 1: I know, I said I wanted to be an avid
Speaker 1: reader and there and then the moment you told me
Speaker 1: you know someone who is I was like, they sound
Speaker 1: like they suck, But you didn't say that.
Speaker 4: I just didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who this person is and they're probably lovely.
Speaker 1: And on that note, we're going to take this commercial
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back with our Frank Gillian
Speaker 1: and we're back now Killian. Are you ready for an
Speaker 1: absolutely fun game?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, good?
Speaker 1: Right now, we're going to play this game we love
Speaker 1: called change dot Door. Change door otherwise known as Let's
Speaker 1: make fun of people who don't know how to use
Speaker 1: change dot org, and we're going to bring up three
Speaker 1: different things that people are trying to bring back on
Speaker 1: change dot org and we'll each vote for our favorite.
Speaker 4: Jona, would you like to read this first one? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Vanessa found these, by the way, but they're they're great.
Speaker 5: The first one is anyway, well, I this is actually true, brother.
Speaker 3: This one is bring back Taco Bell's brownie sandwich. This
Speaker 3: one is made out to Taco Bell. It has six
Speaker 3: hundred and forty six signatures. It's very long, but it
Speaker 3: starts out picture this. You bite down and takes two
Speaker 3: layers of thick deckad and brownies and an equally full
Speaker 3: layer of chocolate frosting follows your taste. Bloods send pleasure
Speaker 3: signals to your brain, but what you feel side is
Speaker 3: much deeper. Is this a taste of love? You pause?
Speaker 3: Does chocolate taste like a childhood memory you cherish so fondly?
Speaker 3: When words fall short, chocolate takes their place. So this
Speaker 3: person goes on. They're asking to bring back this brownie sandwich.
Speaker 3: I guess it was a limited dessert, a double decker
Speaker 3: brownie frosting sandwich at Taco Bell. Gillian, what are your
Speaker 3: thoughts on bringing back Taco Bell's brownie sandwich?
Speaker 4: It sounds delicious.
Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say that there was
Speaker 5: ice cream in the middle, so I was surprised and
Speaker 5: delighted to hear about the frosting.
Speaker 4: I guess that would like keep better, you know for sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it sounds delicious.
Speaker 5: But also maybe this person it will inspire them to
Speaker 5: start cooking more at home and they can make it
Speaker 5: for themselves.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good point because yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess it's like really like two brownies with just some
Speaker 3: frosting in the middle.
Speaker 5: Basically, yeah, right, but it sounds delicious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds good, Vanessa, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Look, this person says, I am asking Taco Bell to
Speaker 1: return the public's all time favorite dessert option to their menu,
Speaker 1: the brownie sandwich. I am not unreasonable, even if it
Speaker 1: has to be for a limited time only yet again,
Speaker 1: And it's like, what I think these people don't understand
Speaker 1: sometimes is that if it really was America's favorite dessert,
Speaker 1: they probably would still be selling it. Like I worry
Speaker 1: that right this, I don't know what the sales have
Speaker 1: been like on this. So I would say it sounds delicious.
Speaker 1: I'm not against this. I would like to hear the
Speaker 1: other two petitions before I make a decision. But to
Speaker 1: Gillian's point, you know, if they don't bring back this
Speaker 1: brownie sandwich, it does seem like kind of a simple
Speaker 1: thing to replicate in your kitchen.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like Taco Bell. There's other things
Speaker 3: i'd want them to bring back first, like the seven
Speaker 3: layer brito that was a personal favorite they got rid
Speaker 3: of to me. Yeah, I do like Taco Bell once
Speaker 3: in a while. I don't really eat it. Eat it
Speaker 3: maybe once a year, but very low odds. I'm going
Speaker 3: to get a dessert a Taco Bell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, Taco Bell not really
Speaker 1: known traditionally for its brownies or other pastry or desserts.
Speaker 3: It's unlikely if I'm going in there, going to get
Speaker 3: a casadia maybe a burrito, but it's unlikely, So it's
Speaker 3: not really for me. And I'm looking at their desserts
Speaker 3: now and they have some cinnabun delights, some cinnamon twists.
Speaker 3: I don't know, fast food dessert. It just doesn't really
Speaker 3: do it for me. But it doesn't. It doesn't look bad.
Speaker 3: I don't know. If it was like free and it
Speaker 3: was sitting out and I was really hungry, maybe I would.
Speaker 4: Try sitting up for how long? Jonah?
Speaker 3: If I was at like a birthday party and someone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we got like five dozen of these brownie things from
Speaker 3: taco bell and I was like really hungry, like I
Speaker 3: forgot the dinner or something. That's all there was. Maybe
Speaker 3: I would try it. Okay, Okay, so that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, should we get into our next pedition.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2: This one is a personal favorite of all time.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: The petition is change quote knitting to knitting with a G.
Speaker 1: So it's g N I T T I n G.
Speaker 1: So change knitting to knitting so it can be a palindrome.
Speaker 1: So this person made this petition out to the human race,
Speaker 1: and he says knitting would be a more relaxing activity
Speaker 1: if I didn't think about how it is not spelled
Speaker 1: as a palindrome.
Speaker 2: Let's change that.
Speaker 1: So this person has gotten twenty one signatures, not a
Speaker 1: ton of comments on here, and by not a ton,
Speaker 1: i'd say, not any.
Speaker 3: Vanessa, how did you find this one? I'm just curious.
Speaker 4: I think I don't know. Can you search by fewest signatures?
Speaker 4: Is that like a function?
Speaker 1: I actually I think I was searching to see if
Speaker 1: there were any related to knitting, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if anyone has any strong feelings about knitting?
Speaker 2: Sure and change knitting to knitting. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't hate this one.
Speaker 1: I think this one no, And I like how this
Speaker 1: person Sometimes it feels like, you know, these people a
Speaker 1: kind of try to act really sophisticated and kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, make these points about these things that are
Speaker 1: kind of like silly and hide it that they're silly
Speaker 1: by talking in a really kind of intelligent way. But
Speaker 1: I would say this person has you know, they give
Speaker 1: it a couple sentences. They're not spending all day working
Speaker 1: on this, but they want to get it out there,
Speaker 1: and I resure that.
Speaker 3: And they made their own graphic, which is cool.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, oh they smelled it out. Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know what this makes me think of is, boy,
Speaker 5: do palindromes appeal to people? And I wonder what is
Speaker 5: that function about our brains that we like a palindrome?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, well I think we like symmetry. You know
Speaker 3: you're supposed to that's something really Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. Uh, what's a.
Speaker 4: Can anyone think of a palindrome off the top of
Speaker 4: their head?
Speaker 3: Like noon, that's a short one. There's longer ones like ganitting.
Speaker 4: Like the well known word Ganitting.
Speaker 3: Gillan, What do you think of this petition?
Speaker 5: The reason I like it is because it the G
Speaker 5: sound is the same as my first name, because you know,
Speaker 5: I'm always fighting against the soft g J sounds, right,
Speaker 5: So I'm in favor of this because it's Gannitting and
Speaker 5: jan Knitting.
Speaker 3: What percentage of people when you first meet them pronounce
Speaker 3: your name wrong?
Speaker 4: Would you say ninety nine percent?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I have stopped fighting it because you know,
Speaker 5: I say Hi, my name is Gillian and people immediately
Speaker 5: say back, hello, Jillian. And I've just realized people hear
Speaker 5: what they're expecting to hear.
Speaker 3: To say that, yeah.
Speaker 5: And my name just confounds people. So I've really given up.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I've found my ways through it. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: can call me Gilly like gills on a fish.
Speaker 4: When I was in kindergarten, it was.
Speaker 5: Like gug gug Gillian, But now I feel less passionately
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Growing up, our parents would always spell our last
Speaker 3: name they say like bey or aspirin, and I feel
Speaker 3: like I still kind of do that sometimes.
Speaker 4: Well, people a lot of times like to call us
Speaker 4: our last name bear.
Speaker 1: They like to not pronounce the why like we pose
Speaker 1: the why, and that's on them.
Speaker 4: We never told them to do that. That's interesting. Never
Speaker 4: have occurred to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 2: I would say fifty percent of the time.
Speaker 3: I get called Noah a lot because I think it's
Speaker 3: also biblical and it sounds like Jonah, so I get
Speaker 3: I get Noah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can ask anyone who has a long name
Speaker 1: that starts with the V.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 1: People feel they can just interchange any long V name.
Speaker 1: So I've been called Veronica Virginia. People think Vivian like.
Speaker 1: People think they can just take any long name that
Speaker 1: starts at the V and it'll do.
Speaker 5: I also get called Jillian gacubs a fair about just.
Speaker 4: Throw it all, you know, in the air and see
Speaker 4: what change everything?
Speaker 5: Change all the g's Jillian gakeups srure, Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, Gillian. Sounds like you're a supporter of this petition
Speaker 3: on some level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the G sound alone, the.
Speaker 3: G sound Okay? What about you? I am you are? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I am too. I think it's like, I think this
Speaker 3: is a pretty good idea. I think it's funny. I
Speaker 3: think it's original. I think it's concise. I like this petition.
Speaker 3: I think this is is I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: this is what changed or was intended for. But I
Speaker 3: think taking that out of the equation, this is well constructed.
Speaker 1: I just want to say before we move on too
Speaker 1: this expetition that one issue with it that I just
Speaker 1: thought of is a lot of times people use the
Speaker 1: term knit more than knitting, and then.
Speaker 4: You're just at knit. That's a good point, just something
Speaker 4: to think about.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to the next one. I can
Speaker 1: read this one. It's make gym class optional. Gym class
Speaker 1: should be optional for middle and high schoolers. The reasons
Speaker 1: like child obesity do not work because of the fact
Speaker 1: that those people who suffer from that get embarrassed and
Speaker 1: anxious to change for class or to go in general.
Speaker 1: I'm going to skip forward. If students like me are
Speaker 1: being told that they have to run around a track
Speaker 1: to succeed in life, that makes no sense because what
Speaker 1: is a few years of gym class going to do
Speaker 1: for you? I know it's going to give me some
Speaker 1: and other people who agree with me, terrible memories. And
Speaker 1: then I also feel like we should not have to
Speaker 1: fail because we do not want to do things that
Speaker 1: will get us nowhere in life.
Speaker 2: For some people will get them very far. That is
Speaker 2: why it's optional.
Speaker 1: When I go off to work, I would like to
Speaker 1: work as a head car designer for a luxury car brand.
Speaker 4: What will gym class help with that?
Speaker 1: And if you're saying we have to fail that class
Speaker 1: when it doesn't even relate to our future occupation, not
Speaker 1: acceptable for our society. Please just understand that I think
Speaker 1: Jim should be kept, but only as an option. This
Speaker 1: petition hits on something that this strikes a bit of
Speaker 1: a nerve with me, Gillian, what do you think? What
Speaker 1: do you think of this? And I just want to
Speaker 1: tell you this person started has thirty signatures.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I mean it certainly rang true when they
Speaker 5: said this will bring back bad memories. I just started
Speaker 5: flashing through all the bad memories of Jim over the years.
Speaker 5: I'm also a person who's always been afraid of injuring
Speaker 5: myself physically, and so I tried to get out of
Speaker 5: a lot of things in Jim.
Speaker 4: One time.
Speaker 5: Instead of having hurdles, the gym teacher brought in cardboard
Speaker 5: boxes of various heights for us to jump over, and
Speaker 5: I'm I didn't want to do it, so I ran
Speaker 5: up to them pushed it to the side, ran to
Speaker 5: the next one, pushed it to the side and refused
Speaker 5: to jump over. So I always tried to, you know,
Speaker 5: get out of doing the things I was afraid of.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm flashing through all the things that I
Speaker 5: didn't want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so many, so many. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with this because I think I think,
Speaker 1: like it is good for kids to get physical activity,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't went there in middle school, so
Speaker 1: but like once you're in high school, it's so upsetting
Speaker 1: to have to like change into like to have to
Speaker 1: be in the middle of your day. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but even as an adolescent, it's like so upsetting to
Speaker 1: have to change into like the shorts and the T
Speaker 1: shirt and just like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go out there.
Speaker 1: But actually, when you're a little kid, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it is good for little kids, I guess to
Speaker 1: have to do this, But remember how we'd have to
Speaker 1: sit on those little like boards that had wheels on
Speaker 1: them and just run over our hands as we like
Speaker 1: shimmy down the gym, Like what the hell were we
Speaker 1: I almost think Jim class should be amended, like, don't
Speaker 1: make us do so much dumb shit and absolutely don't
Speaker 1: make us play battleball, because I think that's the worst
Speaker 1: thing we ever had to do in gym class. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is not even physical activity. But I
Speaker 1: would say I'm born on this.
Speaker 3: Because like dodgeball based dodgeball?
Speaker 1: Okay, were you so much where the point is you
Speaker 1: get out because a really aggressive boy whips a ball
Speaker 1: at you.
Speaker 3: I think that gym class has got to be so
Speaker 3: different than it is when we were kids. Oh Like,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine them still doing that kind of playing
Speaker 3: those time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just had another memory.
Speaker 5: Okay, I went to a monassory preschool and I remember
Speaker 5: that the woman who ran it was very serious about
Speaker 5: all of the playground equipment, and we were given a
Speaker 5: sit down lecture where she went through item by item
Speaker 5: as to how we were to play with all of
Speaker 5: the things. And I just vividly remember being given a
Speaker 5: demo of the I don't know what it's actually called.
Speaker 5: We called it a hippitie hop, which was like a
Speaker 5: big and fflatable ball that had a handle on it.
Speaker 4: You could sit on it and bounce up and down.
Speaker 4: Do you remember this.
Speaker 5: It's like like a yoga ball with a handle on.
Speaker 5: I just remember being given a dead serious demonstration of
Speaker 5: how to use and not use the hippitie hop.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: I also remember there was a time where it was
Speaker 5: like a water sports day and you were supposed to
Speaker 5: wear a bathing suit, but my mom forgot and so
Speaker 5: I had to do the entire day in a denim dress.
Speaker 2: And oh my god.
Speaker 5: And I remember just having to, you know, like run
Speaker 5: through sprinklers and things like that in a denim dress,
Speaker 5: which just became you know, wet and heavy.
Speaker 4: And did any of.
Speaker 2: The other kids forget their bathing suits?
Speaker 5: I don't remember that. I do also remember being shoved
Speaker 5: into a fence at that same preschool.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we had swimming in our high school and
Speaker 3: I had to take it after everyone else because I
Speaker 3: was such a bad swimmer, and I had it first period,
Speaker 3: and I remember, so I didn't know that, yeah, I
Speaker 3: had at first. It was a very small class of
Speaker 3: people who are not good and I had like really
Speaker 3: long hair and it would get all curly and then
Speaker 3: it would be like messed up for the whole day
Speaker 3: and I never had enough time to like change back.
Speaker 1: It was that was It was such a bomber when
Speaker 1: we had to swim in high school because it was
Speaker 1: like you by the time you got out of the pool,
Speaker 1: it was just it was the same there's not enough
Speaker 1: time as another class would be.
Speaker 3: So by the time you got out.
Speaker 1: Of the pool, you had like seven minutes to get
Speaker 1: ready or something for your class.
Speaker 4: And it was so upsetting.
Speaker 1: And I told you the story before, but I remember
Speaker 1: our mom went to our parent teacher conferences and because
Speaker 1: she said this to every teacher. She said to our
Speaker 1: gym teacher, who was at that point I was learning.
Speaker 1: We were in swim classes every day. She said to her,
Speaker 1: to Miss Pignotello, who taught your gym class that you hated,
Speaker 1: but said to Miss Pignotello, Vanessa's really enjoying your class,
Speaker 1: because that's what she said to all the teachers. And
Speaker 1: Miss Pignetella was like, really, they're swimming. Most kids don't
Speaker 1: like it. And I think Mom had to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: But she yeah, this is the same teacher who made
Speaker 3: me take buns of Steel and step aerobics as a
Speaker 3: senior in high school. Because yeah, I've talked about here.
Speaker 3: Because I couldn't get there was a mix up with
Speaker 3: my schedule, and then I tried to get this weight
Speaker 3: training class, which I probably also would have been terrible
Speaker 3: apt but I couldn't get into it. And then I
Speaker 3: was in this step of oobics class with like all
Speaker 3: these like eighth grade girls basically as like this guy who.
Speaker 2: Is hitting my best friend Gwen who you know Gillian.
Speaker 4: Of course everybody knows Gwen.
Speaker 3: I was like wearing jinkos, I had like a shaved head,
Speaker 3: like probably like a septum ring, and I was like
Speaker 3: having to do these Buns of Steel videos with all
Speaker 3: these like yeah, it was, it was. And I remember
Speaker 3: going to the principle and being like please, like I
Speaker 3: really don't want to be in this, and he was like,
Speaker 3: well she says you got to do it, then she's
Speaker 3: a teacher. And it was so I guess, like coming
Speaker 3: full circle, like yes, I think Jim Jim class should
Speaker 3: be optional. I feel like based on all of our responses, Yeah,
Speaker 3: physical activity is good, you know, maybe taking a couple
Speaker 3: laps on the track, but all this other stuff, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's too much like let you know, if people
Speaker 3: want to play sports, let them, but let's force it
Speaker 3: on people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I also now just had a memory come back up
Speaker 5: of by the weight room in our high school. There
Speaker 5: was just a sign that said warning asbestos that never resolved.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually never went in the weight room at
Speaker 3: our at our Yeah, I mean I don't think I
Speaker 3: lifted a weight.
Speaker 4: I only did because they made us.
Speaker 3: They made you, Okay.
Speaker 1: It is so odd that we had like a weight
Speaker 1: room in our high school because I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, who went in there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably football players or something. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think they had yet.
Speaker 1: Well, given that we know, I'm going to remind every
Speaker 1: one of what the three petitions are, and then we
Speaker 1: can each say which one we would vote for. The
Speaker 1: first one is bring back taco bells Brownie Sandwich. The
Speaker 1: second one is change knitting to gknitting so it can
Speaker 1: be a palindrome. And the third one is make gym
Speaker 1: class optional. Gillian, which one would you pick to sign?
Speaker 4: I think the taco bell one just because I'd like
Speaker 4: to try it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I understand that. Jonah, what about you?
Speaker 3: I'm going with the gannitting one just because I think
Speaker 3: it's funny. And uh why not, Vanessa? What about you?
Speaker 1: Just said that because we've never done this before and
Speaker 1: all voted for a different one, I'm going to go
Speaker 1: with make gym class optional. Okay, because I hear this
Speaker 1: kid and I and I want to support them, but
Speaker 1: I think we all sort of like all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah this, Yeah, that's a first. Definitely. Yeah. These are
Speaker 3: all good petitions of Vanessa. Good job, find job Vanessa.
Speaker 2: So much, Thank you very much. Well, Gillian, this has
Speaker 2: been so much fun.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you without promoting anything that you're forgetting?
Speaker 5: I am at Gillian underscore underscore jacobs on in Instagram.
Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible, Well, Gilly, this was so much fun. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining us and to everyone for listening.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me