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Speaker 3: This subject line reads husband secretly posts dick pics online. Yes,
Speaker 3: Kang Hi, Cern and Christina and Mike love to you.
Speaker 3: Both can't wait to hear what you think about this.
Speaker 3: A few days ago, I discovered that my husband posted
Speaker 3: dick pics on a bisexual adult site, and I can't
Speaker 3: figure out how to feel about it. We are twenty
Speaker 3: six and thirty three years old and have been married
Speaker 3: for four years now. Our sex life is great, even
Speaker 3: though I definitely wish he would had more sex, but
Speaker 3: his libido is just naturally lower than mine. Well, not
Speaker 3: low enough to not want to post picks online.
Speaker 1: It was dick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, that's enough pussy for me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: full on the pussy. We are super open with each
Speaker 3: other and talk about our desires and fantasies frequently, not
Speaker 3: that one. We are not care to push each other's
Speaker 3: boundaries and try out new things in the bedroom.
Speaker 1: That's nice.
Speaker 3: Some things we have tried are golden showers, threesomes with women,
Speaker 3: and various exciting look and various exciting locations. Nice, you
Speaker 3: got a good little sexual thing going on. He isn't
Speaker 3: interested in doing any anal play on me and honestly
Speaker 3: seems to be scared of my butthole.
Speaker 1: But at the same he might because he's like, am
Speaker 1: I gonna like this too much?
Speaker 3: On the other side, he has learned to love anal
Speaker 3: play on him the last few years.
Speaker 1: Good man, you ever.
Speaker 3: Know he has a treasure to every man has a
Speaker 3: prostate that can be stimulated. I yeah, but there is
Speaker 3: a little alarm went off when he's not at all
Speaker 3: interested in anal play with her. I've never met a
Speaker 3: straight man that was not interested in my asshole at
Speaker 3: some point, well exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, this
Speaker 3: is something okay. So on the other side, he has
Speaker 3: learned to love anal play on him the past few years.
Speaker 3: This is something he had never tried before. But I
Speaker 3: opened him up penintendad to the possibility, and actually I
Speaker 3: actually just loved pleasure him and see what it does
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 1: Totally. I hear you, girl. He is a he is
Speaker 1: a super manly straight dude, and it took some time
Speaker 1: for him to get around. But is that a wall?
Speaker 3: Yeah, to cover his someone's in cosplay, But now he
Speaker 3: frequently asks for butt plugs. I love eating his ass.
Speaker 3: I know I'm not very feminist of me. I don't
Speaker 3: think that's not feminist of you at all. I like
Speaker 3: eating as I'm a feminist, and he really enjoys it.
Speaker 3: I have tried putting a finger up there and finding
Speaker 3: his prostate, but he doesn't love it or is too
Speaker 3: shy to try. Just ask eating and butt plugs for him.
Speaker 3: I am bisexual and love sleeping with women, but I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do another threesome with another woman
Speaker 3: unless we are going to have a threesome with another man.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 3: Got to keep it fair, you know, into that he
Speaker 3: might he is super against it, against it what I respect,
Speaker 3: what I respect, and says he would be too jealous.
Speaker 3: And even though I said he of course wouldn't have
Speaker 3: to do anything with the other man, he says another
Speaker 3: man would just turn him off. He says he is
Speaker 3: too two hundred percent straight. That sounds kind of the
Speaker 3: gayest thing I've ever pretty gay nose straight guys puts
Speaker 3: a percentage.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh dear, you're in a pickle, ma'am.
Speaker 3: I love making out with women, but he is not
Speaker 3: comfortable with me doing that without him being involved. Jesus,
Speaker 3: he's gay and he doesn't want you to be gay, Like,
Speaker 3: what do you what do you girls do?
Speaker 1: You don't here to be gay? If I don't get
Speaker 1: to be gay? What are the girls doing? Just a
Speaker 1: kissing circle? Count me in? I love making.
Speaker 5: Come in.
Speaker 1: I'm not no cue.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I love making out with other women, but
Speaker 3: he's not comfortable with me doing that without him being involved.
Speaker 3: What I think is silly, But I think it is silly.
Speaker 3: But also he understands that I am bisexual. I'm a
Speaker 3: very sex positive. I'm very sex positive and have a
Speaker 3: lot of gay friends that have mentioned to him before
Speaker 3: that I love buy men.
Speaker 1: I find it hot if anything.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is that he's in a position
Speaker 3: where he knows he can explore sexuality freely with no judgment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that makes.
Speaker 3: It boring if you're still in a discovery phase for yourself, right,
Speaker 3: you know, people always write it's like I would be
Speaker 3: so understanding, But it's like number one, maybe he's still
Speaker 3: on this journey himself.
Speaker 1: And then Number two.
Speaker 3: It's like, sometimes what makes something interesting is the secrecy
Speaker 3: of it. And so maybe he doesn't want to just
Speaker 3: like fucking come out to this woman that he's been
Speaker 3: married to and be like, oh, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I don't want to ruin his own bisexuality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like we that's that's we get that
Speaker 3: sentiment a lot in emails, like why didn't you just
Speaker 3: tell me?
Speaker 1: It's like, lay off, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: I would certainly be if I was on the receiving
Speaker 3: end of that, I would be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: But I get it. There's things that I don't tell.
Speaker 3: But that's because you, like, yeah you, and but also
Speaker 3: you like you tend to be more like over communicative,
Speaker 3: and I get I for me, really value like things
Speaker 3: that I just keep secret. And it's not I'm not
Speaker 3: kiding anything. No, I just needs something for me, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: especially God, especially being in this business. But yeah, last
Speaker 3: week I was using his iPad to do something for work.
Speaker 3: Oh God, I am free to use it, just like
Speaker 3: he is free to use my laptop if he needs it.
Speaker 1: I don't keep anything private on there.
Speaker 3: It's because you don't have anything fun to find his
Speaker 3: iPad seems to be connected to his iPhone through the
Speaker 3: Apple account.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: I was googling something and then thought it was embarrassing,
Speaker 3: so I went to delete it in the history.
Speaker 1: What were you fucking googling? Is my husband gay?
Speaker 3: That's when I discovered that I can see his whole
Speaker 3: history right at the top. You've discovered that everyone knows that, lady,
Speaker 3: you're not Christopher Columbus.
Speaker 6: There's a history.
Speaker 1: Well though, you are a Christopher a Columbus. You went
Speaker 1: in there, you know what you would do in fuck off?
Speaker 3: Also, who opts to use an iPad for working over
Speaker 3: a laptop?
Speaker 1: A laptop is way easier to use. That's when I
Speaker 1: discovered I can see his whole history.
Speaker 3: Right at the top was a bunch of porn, and
Speaker 3: I didn't click on it, even though it was tempting.
Speaker 1: What a hero? Oh my god? Right at the top
Speaker 1: was a bunch of porn. Oh okay.
Speaker 3: A website caught my eye though, So you browsed through
Speaker 3: the website links. You didn't click on him, but you
Speaker 3: read the URLs because it said he had viewed multiple
Speaker 3: members and had an account and viewed messages.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a lot of information yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: click on any of that. I mean, at this point
Speaker 1: you might as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but decided to take a picture of the history
Speaker 3: to research this website, leg I mean, just fucking go
Speaker 3: through shit.
Speaker 1: You already go through shit. Just go through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to research his website later and see what it
Speaker 3: is about.
Speaker 1: I'm currently on a trip, so I had some time.
Speaker 3: For myself, and how better to spend it than they
Speaker 3: played detective?
Speaker 1: That always goes well.
Speaker 3: I looked up the website and then to site for
Speaker 3: bisexual adults to connect, exchange photos, and potentially meet up.
Speaker 3: To view members, you have to have a profile, so
Speaker 3: naturally I made a fake profile. Of course, I mean
Speaker 3: I would too, honestly. Yeah, I found his You need to.
Speaker 3: If you didn't, i'd be pissy. You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to.
Speaker 3: At this point, I found his profile fairly quickly and
Speaker 3: listened from Jeez and was shocked when I saw a
Speaker 3: photo of his dick. I right away recognized it because
Speaker 3: his pubes and legs and the lighting.
Speaker 1: Because it was in my bedroom, on my bed.
Speaker 3: He was about to put it in me, but he
Speaker 3: took a picture of her first, and I was like,
Speaker 3: that's weird or whatever.
Speaker 1: I saw a picture of us.
Speaker 3: His profile says he is by curious, which I yeah,
Speaker 3: and looking to swap picks and fantasies.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I really don't know how to feel about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: got you, got you girl. I do feel like it's
Speaker 3: crossing a boundary because we have talked about potentially opening
Speaker 3: up our relationship for a limited time when we are
Speaker 3: out of town. But after thinking more about it, he
Speaker 3: said he is strongly against it and doesn't think that's
Speaker 3: something he wants to do. Yeah, he wants to toss
Speaker 3: it on the table and then open it up only
Speaker 3: on his ends.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: I also feel weird about it because he isn't talking
Speaker 3: to online sex workers here. I wouldn't have a problem
Speaker 3: with that as people and OnlyFans for example, are getting
Speaker 3: paid to do this and it's literally their job.
Speaker 1: It's a good point.
Speaker 3: It's a good point, but on the site it's clearly
Speaker 3: normal people.
Speaker 1: You're right. That does up the ante. Oh it's a
Speaker 1: dating site. It does up the ante.
Speaker 3: If if my boyfriend was engaging with sex workers, I
Speaker 3: would be like, eh, no problem, Just like you know,
Speaker 3: don't let the whole internet see because it's like you
Speaker 3: get like a you know, there's a it's too much.
Speaker 1: You know, but I was like regular people absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am not on the internet sending people nudes
Speaker 3: and sexting. I know for sure my husband wouldn't be
Speaker 3: happy if he found out I did. I also don't
Speaker 3: understand why he hasn't opened up to me about potentially
Speaker 3: wanting to explore this more again. He could certainly keep
Speaker 3: that to himself, though what I literally offered that that
Speaker 3: he could do.
Speaker 1: So. I guess secrets are more sexy ding ding ding.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, yeah, there's just some There's also
Speaker 3: something parental about like when someone is discovering their sexuality
Speaker 3: in a relationship, and like we see the it's always
Speaker 3: the woman feeling they own our sexual partners. Sometimes yeah,
Speaker 3: I just really don't. The woman's always like why did
Speaker 3: you like, honey? It feels like why let me, mommy
Speaker 3: make you a sandwich? Like every time I hear that
Speaker 3: like that energy come out of an email, it turns
Speaker 3: me off, like and again, just treat me like the
Speaker 3: man on the show. Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess secrets are more sexy.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, I am aware that some fantasies
Speaker 3: are just that fantasies. I definitely watch porn that I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be into in real life, but sometimes when you
Speaker 3: were horny, lots of weird shit can be a turn on.
Speaker 1: Amen's sister. Naturally, I messaged him, naturally, now you're playing with.
Speaker 3: You got to talk to him, birl, you're playing with
Speaker 3: fire now. I message anything, but talking.
Speaker 6: To this person is what is what I feel like
Speaker 6: women will.
Speaker 3: Do and men and men will Yeah, make a fake account,
Speaker 3: I mean this, this one is like this. This he
Speaker 3: should be trying to set a moge. This is like
Speaker 3: a could be a huge bomb drop.
Speaker 1: Though, like you know, yeah, yeah, Naturally.
Speaker 3: I messaged him from my fake profile with the intention
Speaker 3: of finding out if he was interested in meeting in person.
Speaker 1: Nothing yet.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been online, so maybe this was just a
Speaker 3: spur of the moment horny thing. Oh my god's so funny.
Speaker 3: If your husband's not attracted to your fake online profile,
Speaker 3: that what is attractive. I don't feel like I need
Speaker 3: to bring this up to him because I'm not sure
Speaker 3: he did anything wrong, and I don't want him to
Speaker 3: feel like I invaded his privacy, So I'm just going
Speaker 3: to tell the whole internet instead. I would love your
Speaker 3: input and especially Mike's perspective as a man love from Canada.
Speaker 3: I mean I would flip my fucking lid. Depending on
Speaker 3: if our sex life was good, then I would go,
Speaker 3: this is sony. Everybody's got their fantasies. You know you
Speaker 3: got he something secret. I don't own you sexually. But
Speaker 3: if I was unsatisfied with our sex life and you
Speaker 3: said his libido is not as strong as yours, that's not.
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem to be what's fucking happening here.
Speaker 3: But again, I guess it is possible that the time
Speaker 3: that you saw these website, these things happen on his
Speaker 3: browser history, that could have been the only day he
Speaker 3: was ever on this website. Absolutely that is potentially true.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not.
Speaker 3: It would bother me if I tried to have sex
Speaker 3: with this person as my partner and he was saying
Speaker 3: no and then going to do that, I'll.
Speaker 1: Never talk to you again. That But that's not rational.
Speaker 3: That's just what I would do, Like I just know myself,
Speaker 3: that would fucking that would send me through the roof.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: So what I would do is I would be on
Speaker 3: the iPad and then I would yell into the other room, Hey, queer,
Speaker 3: and then if it comes guilty, I would say you
Speaker 3: had something to tell me now, sorry, you have more
Speaker 3: to it that you wanted to add. No, I was
Speaker 3: just more and deep diving deeper into my irrational response,
Speaker 3: which is we don't need that. I think, hmm, I think, uh,
Speaker 3: this is hard. I don't know, like how you have
Speaker 3: taken it this far and now you're not going to
Speaker 3: bring it up. To bring it up, I don't know
Speaker 3: how that wouldn't affect the.
Speaker 1: Day to day of your relationship. Yeah, he might like.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's I mean, just like if you're
Speaker 3: like if your husband might be bisexual, Like that's just
Speaker 3: information I think you need to know. Yeah, especially he's
Speaker 3: actively pursuing it and so like a latent by by
Speaker 3: you know, sexuality, right, and his action like what he's
Speaker 3: saying to you how he feels is very clearly not true. Right,
Speaker 3: So I would just fess up and say, hey, dude,
Speaker 3: I have a confession to make. I went to look.
Speaker 3: You know, we use each other's technology. I first of all,
Speaker 3: I don't really want to know what you googled, but
Speaker 3: just you know, say I googled something and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to pop up on your history.
Speaker 3: I went to clear the history, although I don't know
Speaker 3: that i'd buy that, but okay, and I saw this,
Speaker 3: and instead of talking to you about it, I just
Speaker 3: made a fake profile and tried to like, you know,
Speaker 3: fuck with you. And I'm realizing that wasn't the mature route,
Speaker 3: so I just want to talk to you about it.
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry for invading your privacy.
Speaker 3: But it's also weird that, like, because it kind of
Speaker 3: came up without her initially invading his privacy, and it's
Speaker 3: weird that you would leave that up if it's known
Speaker 3: that you guys share computers and iPads, or if that's
Speaker 3: just a rule that you made that because in a
Speaker 3: way she describes it in the email, she's kind of like, well,
Speaker 3: it's obvious what's mine is his and what's his mind.
Speaker 1: But I'm like that, okay, And also that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: the case. It's weird.
Speaker 3: I think it's weird to share laptops. I mean, I
Speaker 3: would never share a laptop. Yeah, and if you are,
Speaker 3: then you definitely should be, you know. Or I guess
Speaker 3: another thing is like maybe he you know, sometimes when
Speaker 3: you're when you feel guilty about something, you kind of want.
Speaker 1: To get caught.
Speaker 3: It could be sure, it could be that, yeah, But
Speaker 3: the thing the thing that concerns me and like yeah,
Speaker 3: I would have no problem if like the person I
Speaker 3: was dating was like, you know what, honestly I'm bisexual.
Speaker 3: I would have problems with them like going by behind
Speaker 3: my back and like acting on it. But I would
Speaker 3: understand if it was like only with men, I suppose,
Speaker 3: if they were just trying to figure it out, I
Speaker 3: would be more understanding because it was like another like
Speaker 3: facet of their sexuality that they were trying to explore.
Speaker 1: But what worries me here.
Speaker 3: Is like that he knows how open you are to
Speaker 3: him being bisexual. You yourself are bisexual, said you think
Speaker 3: it was hot and you communicated that yeah. To me,
Speaker 3: it seems I feel like so many people, I've heard
Speaker 3: this story a thousand times, especially with men, because of
Speaker 3: how society tree it's male homosexuality. Uh, is that I
Speaker 3: think he might I truly think he might be gay.
Speaker 3: And sometimes the sexuality's the bridge exactly. He's starting by
Speaker 3: dipping his toe into bisexuality because that feels less scary
Speaker 3: to admit to yourself that you're bisexual. From a male perspective,
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking, I obviously nothing wrong with any of this,
Speaker 3: but there's just a lot of red flags within this male.
Speaker 1: I sent that deep fear on his end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if you're by that's nothing like if you're gay,
Speaker 3: that's nothing to fear. Also, but if he's living a lie, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's the thing. Because nothing wrong being gay, there
Speaker 3: is something wrong with deception just seeing your partner and
Speaker 3: walking into a relationship in a marriage without getting to
Speaker 3: know the fuck you are first. Yeah, Like saying I'm
Speaker 3: two hundred percent straight honestly sounds downright homophobic, like at
Speaker 3: this point in time, Like I mean, I I.
Speaker 1: You know, there, it sounds very defensive, like I there.
Speaker 3: My friend, the Christian comedian, he literally did a bit
Speaker 3: about how he's like, you know, ninety three eighty percent
Speaker 3: straight or something, and I thought that was like honestly
Speaker 3: groundbreaking for someone who has pretty much an exclusively Christian audience.
Speaker 3: You know. So if he is able to say that,
Speaker 3: then this, yeah just sums up you know.
Speaker 1: And I know it's like a trope on this podcast.
Speaker 3: I think everyone's gay, but I don't know everyone's gay
Speaker 3: and they should break.
Speaker 1: Up, right, Yeah, Michael, what do you think.
Speaker 6: About which part?
Speaker 1: Well, what stood out to you because you Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it is. You know, we've we've kind of dealt.
Speaker 5: With the the topic of snooping a lot on this podcast,
Speaker 5: which I always think is interesting because I think that
Speaker 5: when it comes to getting this information and doing something
Speaker 5: with it, I don't understand how anybody could think that
Speaker 5: the best scenario isn't to just be like, look what
Speaker 5: I found. I'm sorry I was snooping and we have
Speaker 5: to talk about this. Yes, this is a big this
Speaker 5: is a serious what.
Speaker 1: It's a huge thing like this? Yes, if it's a
Speaker 1: little thing, then.
Speaker 5: Like she's doing this thing where she's like making profiles
Speaker 5: and like trying to get like you.
Speaker 1: Can kind of get it. I think she kind of
Speaker 1: got wasting time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you kind of get like addicted to the
Speaker 3: wrong for snooping for the wrong reasons in terms of
Speaker 3: like it's almost like you're addicted to not being caught,
Speaker 3: so you want to see how far you can go.
Speaker 3: You're not addicted to finding the truth necessarily fine, and
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: You also want to like find be like, oh I must.
Speaker 3: Be mistaken for you know, because it's gonna be bad
Speaker 3: for her in some way.
Speaker 1: Even if even if he's just by.
Speaker 3: Sal I mean you, you'll still feel deceit from the hiding.
Speaker 3: Also too, there's probably there might be a fear on
Speaker 3: her end. I don't mean to plant this in you, writer,
Speaker 3: but this would be my fear of like, he's not
Speaker 3: gonna be honest with me, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and
Speaker 3: he's just gonna say I might be I'm by curious,
Speaker 3: like his profile says, and not actually be honest. What
Speaker 3: if one of those messages was him talking about how
Speaker 3: I wanted to get railed by a dude to me,
Speaker 3: I would say, that's a little less by curious.
Speaker 5: I say, the violation is not that he's bisexual. The
Speaker 5: violation is that he's on these sites doing this stuff
Speaker 5: without her knowledge.
Speaker 1: Because right, But is that fucked up?
Speaker 3: Because they still time have agreed that they're in a
Speaker 3: monogamous relationship.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have been flirting with real people and
Speaker 1: not sex workers as fucked up.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, Like, I truly believe maybe the
Speaker 3: reason he didn't respond to her is because he's only
Speaker 3: engaging with men and I would have more empathy to
Speaker 3: I would still be angry, but I would have more
Speaker 3: empathy for that because it must be something scary that
Speaker 3: he's going through. But I still be angry, and you
Speaker 3: have every right to be angry. And another thing I
Speaker 3: just realized is like just the fact that he just
Speaker 3: had just a picture of his dick. That's such a
Speaker 3: male on male thing, like that's only happens on grinder.
Speaker 1: Also, no bisexual woman is going.
Speaker 3: On is responding to just the picture of a of
Speaker 3: a guy's dong like that is That is very that's
Speaker 3: very that's Binder certified finder behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. That just dawns
Speaker 1: on me. Man, that's a good point did say with
Speaker 1: the other picture.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, if you know, again,
Speaker 5: it's not about whether or not he's gay or bisexual
Speaker 5: or straight or whatever. That almost has nothing to do
Speaker 5: with it. That in my mind, that's like to me,
Speaker 5: it's the deception.
Speaker 3: It's a deception of like you're basically cheating on the internet,
Speaker 3: but also you are not looking at a part of
Speaker 3: yourself that is vital to us being together.
Speaker 1: We're not even looking But.
Speaker 3: Again, Michael, but Michael, it is a big deal if
Speaker 3: the guy is gay. If he's a huge deal, way
Speaker 3: less of a deal if if he's gay. If he's gay,
Speaker 3: so he fucking married her, yea, and included her in
Speaker 3: his whole lot.
Speaker 1: He's gay, the whole thing. Let's go a whole way off. Okay,
Speaker 1: But I think so it is a big deal that
Speaker 1: he's gay. But I know what you're saying. You're saying
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with being gay or being by I
Speaker 1: just think that there's.
Speaker 3: Anything we know that but there is wrong. I mean,
Speaker 3: and this is a stance that I've had for years
Speaker 3: on this show. There is something wrong with being gay
Speaker 3: and lying to a woman and saying that you're not
Speaker 3: gay and marrying her.
Speaker 1: That's fucked up.
Speaker 3: That's fucked that's honestly, you should be able to I
Speaker 3: think time wasted.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, time if.
Speaker 6: You're gay, and that's something that you need to get
Speaker 6: to the bottom of the.
Speaker 3: Figure another instance of men taking us on their fucking
Speaker 3: emotional journey with him, and I will not have it.
Speaker 3: And gay men are not You guys are not free
Speaker 3: from this. It's because the more the more you think
Speaker 3: about it and stuff, you're like You're like, really, the.
Speaker 1: Problem really is men.
Speaker 3: It's not we wiled it down to straight white men,
Speaker 3: and it's really it is men.
Speaker 1: It's really what's happening over there.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not every man doing this.
Speaker 1: Of course, no, no, of course. What's the thing that
Speaker 1: all these problems have in common? Men? Okay, we finally
Speaker 1: warn them.
Speaker 5: Down, Great job, I'm just saying to me, to me,
Speaker 5: the issue more is just like whether or not she
Speaker 5: can even all right. Even if best case scenario here
Speaker 5: he's by she's okay with that, it's still a major violation.
Speaker 5: You're basically this is the same level as being cheated
Speaker 5: on in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know I think it was just a quick
Speaker 1: exchange of messages.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, But then then you could say it's
Speaker 3: flirting on Instagram, cheating on Damn, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: Please do it. Just leave me. Along was flirting on Instagram?
Speaker 3: I just leave him really, like if it was really
Speaker 3: if it was really really ramped up and flo like
Speaker 3: if when I I guess, when I think of it,
Speaker 3: it's like if he's pretending he doesn't have a girlfriend,
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh you know what, I.
Speaker 1: Know, Oh, pretending you don't have a girlfriend. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that sucks. Yeah, but like it wul I say.
Speaker 3: Like flirting, like being nice or whatever like that when
Speaker 3: I for me to constitute it as flirting has to
Speaker 3: be like heavy, oh like sex thing. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: sex thing inappropriate. But it was like flirty behavior on Instagram. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm fine, right, there's a line, yeah, yeah, because it
Speaker 3: crosses this.
Speaker 1: Definitely crossed it. No, it crossed, it crosses it.
Speaker 3: But but to say it's the same as going out
Speaker 3: and actually having sex with someone I can't know, it's not, well,
Speaker 3: it's to me, but it's the violation of trust. But
Speaker 3: I would feel I would feel just as violated. I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: even though they are not the same things none at all.
Speaker 1: I feel it, and.
Speaker 3: I get where she's coming from when I because I
Speaker 3: do see what you're saying, Corent about like some things
Speaker 3: that you're just exploring a part of yourself.
Speaker 1: You need a second, you need yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: But I I could see myself even though logically I
Speaker 3: know he needs a second. And because I'm removed and
Speaker 3: I'm not dating this person, I'm married to this person,
Speaker 3: I could see this.
Speaker 1: But I know if I was with him I couldn't
Speaker 1: see this.
Speaker 3: I would be so upset that I fucking gave you
Speaker 3: the freedom to be honest with me and encourage you to.
Speaker 1: Be whoever you are and you still didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Like every time I move on this catch I break something.
Speaker 3: Yeah uh yeah, I yeah, Because I'm like, I see
Speaker 3: his need for secrecy.
Speaker 1: I think a little bit more.
Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously we're all giving advice from like
Speaker 3: our own biases of how we how we are. Obviously
Speaker 3: Mike has a little problem with deception that's revealed with
Speaker 3: men obviously. Yeah, huh interesting. Yeah, So I mean I
Speaker 3: feel like you went through the trouble of writing us,
Speaker 3: you went through the trouble of snooping, and now it's
Speaker 3: just a little bit odd to me that you're not
Speaker 3: going to do anything about it, because I do think
Speaker 3: that this is this is and it's also like I
Speaker 3: think like it's a timely issue that needs to be
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: But what if what if she.
Speaker 3: Communicated to us that she's concerned he wouldn't be honest?
Speaker 3: Should she then continue to see like, should she make
Speaker 3: a profile of a guy and dmm and see what happened.
Speaker 3: That's a bad idea, but it's a good one. We're
Speaker 3: not asking a good idea. Yeah, well, like Haytiger, it's me, Doug.
Speaker 3: Now I'm fascinated. Now I see you definitely do see.
Speaker 3: That's where I would go. I'd be like if I
Speaker 3: felt like he was.
Speaker 1: Going to be truth because the information you really need.
Speaker 1: But the thing is.
Speaker 3: Now he could so easily be so afraid and think
Speaker 3: it is easier at this point in my life, even
Speaker 3: though it's actually not easier.
Speaker 1: It's harder, but it's going to feel immediately easier to
Speaker 1: just lie and say that was a mistake.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm not and not actually look ever look into
Speaker 3: my gayness for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: And then when I'm going to explode.
Speaker 3: People are more They're going to do the easier option,
Speaker 3: and that like the immediately easier option, and that is
Speaker 3: the immediately easier option. It's harder to go. You know what,
Speaker 3: I got to explore this thing with myself. I have
Speaker 3: to divorce my wife. I have to come to terms
Speaker 3: with myself. That's more difficult, even though it's paving the
Speaker 3: way for more happiness.
Speaker 1: So knowing me, even though it's not what I recommend,
Speaker 1: I'd redo that fake profiles a dude, and I'd say,
Speaker 1: let me see that.
Speaker 6: You guys are.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I don't know. He might, he
Speaker 1: might tell the truth.
Speaker 3: If you do that, I would say, even if you
Speaker 3: can't explain about the snooping, you cannot say that's crazy.
Speaker 3: We're giving you advice knowing that it's crazy. I'm allowed
Speaker 3: my crazy side to talk of the microphones. It's a
Speaker 3: strategically great idea. Is it one hundred percent crazy? Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's put a streak, a crazy stamp on it, because
Speaker 3: he's fucking nuts.
Speaker 1: But it's the best.
Speaker 3: It's the strategically the best, the best route. Ah. It's
Speaker 3: good to laugh minically after you give someone advice about
Speaker 3: their whole entire life. Yeah, man, are trying to help you,
Speaker 3: but you need here's the thing, because you need to
Speaker 3: figure this out.
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned than you are. Insane, I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm also coming from a place where I
Speaker 3: feel like I know humanity very well. I understand that,
Speaker 3: like and I don't I still talk about having like
Speaker 3: too much empathy. Even if that was the case and
Speaker 3: you made a fake profile and you were a god
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh yeah, want to fuck you. Let's
Speaker 3: go and you're like, oh, he is gay whatever, I
Speaker 3: would still have a lot of empathy for this man
Speaker 3: that you're married to still because he obviously didn't. It's
Speaker 3: his job to create an environment where he feel safe
Speaker 3: enough to explore. He has to boldly pursue his own
Speaker 3: safety when you're an adult, unfortunately, And but I can
Speaker 3: see him being too scared to do that, like I
Speaker 3: can like, I know men who have who have dated
Speaker 3: women for years or married women and then they were gay.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: It's like and I feel for those men. I feel
Speaker 3: terrible about what masculinity has done to you.
Speaker 1: I feel like Glennon Doyle's husband, she did the same thing.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, that sucks, damn. She wrote a lot of.
Speaker 3: Good I'm so interested in speaking to Glenn Doyle's husband
Speaker 3: ex husband.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: We talked to Kevin Meanie yeah about it, who was
Speaker 3: gay and married. He was well, but he's the one
Speaker 3: who did the breaking up. Glenn Doyle is the one
Speaker 3: who broke up you know who. She basically went on
Speaker 3: like a I actually read her and Abby Womback's uh
Speaker 3: like meet you because I was so curious. I was like,
Speaker 3: how does that even happen? Like they're both famous, but
Speaker 3: in their own rights, Like how did they even come together?
Speaker 3: They were like both speaking at a conference or something
Speaker 3: and then just kind of like washed over them and
Speaker 3: basically washed over them. Lesbianism, I mean already was, but
Speaker 3: Glennon wasn't. And can you imagine your what your wife
Speaker 3: goes to like speak at a conference and then comes
Speaker 3: back gaay quet.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated.
Speaker 3: But if I was also gay, I'd be like, did
Speaker 3: God just give me a gift right now?
Speaker 1: I don't got to have this.
Speaker 3: He's not gay though, Oh he's not youay No, That's
Speaker 3: why I want to thought even they both were gay,
Speaker 3: I want to see how he handled that. I'm like,
Speaker 3: how convenient is that? That's the best case Sinnario. No,
Speaker 3: I see, I see, and I see I see. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but wait, she was gay the whole time though, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how she defines her own sexuality. I
Speaker 3: haven't read that much into it, but she I don't
Speaker 3: know if she identifies as bisexual or lesbian.
Speaker 1: But I have means met that guy anymore. No, she
Speaker 1: likes she's deep in that muddy.
Speaker 3: I have talked to men who dated women for a
Speaker 3: number of years. And they are one hundred percent gay.
Speaker 3: But I did ask that, like these two people that
Speaker 3: I know, I was like, they they both communicate to me,
Speaker 3: and I know these people, well, so I'm like, I
Speaker 3: know that they're being honest. They were very they were
Speaker 3: attracted to the person that they were dating. And if
Speaker 3: those a woman and they were in love, it was
Speaker 3: just not it was it was not the same kind
Speaker 3: of yeah, yeah, they were attracted to them, they didn't
Speaker 3: sexually like it wasn't like I'm so horning for you,
Speaker 3: I sexually fantasized about you when you're not there kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. I mean, some straight couples don't have that,
Speaker 3: but where you know, and some but some do, I know,
Speaker 3: gay like gay couples. But like it wasn't in that like,
Speaker 3: so it didn't go to like the farthest length a
Speaker 3: straight sexual attraction can go.
Speaker 1: But they were genuinely attracted to the person.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, so there's no I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: on the receiving end of this speech as you're going,
Speaker 3: you know, going off to the gay Pride parade.
Speaker 1: I still don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm like, lovely, lovely story about how much you loved me,
Speaker 3: But that's not really helping right now, right, I got
Speaker 3: gotta tell everyone my husband's divorcing me. And also he
Speaker 3: don't doesn't even like pussy and Jem and he didn't like.
Speaker 1: It the whole time. That's a bummer. He should have
Speaker 1: to say that. Yeah, I mean, you don't want to.
Speaker 3: Shame anybody for anything, but man, lying, lying is a bummer.
Speaker 3: Lying to yourself and then involving other people in your lives, well,
Speaker 3: I think it's like but it's different though, because it's like, Okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: there's no shame in realizing later in life that you're
Speaker 3: a homosexual.
Speaker 1: But like I doubt that you just it just all
Speaker 1: of a sudden dawned on you.
Speaker 3: And I feel like if it's like it's like it
Speaker 3: should be handled like, you know, basically like the court,
Speaker 3: like the way we.
Speaker 1: Handle uh jury voting.
Speaker 3: Like they should be guilt proven guilty behind beyond a
Speaker 3: reasonable doubt. So you should be, like, if you're getting married,
Speaker 3: you should be you should know that you're straight beyond
Speaker 3: a reasonable doubt or gay beyond a reasonable doubt before
Speaker 3: you do that, because it's like just not other people's
Speaker 3: job to come on your little journey with you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I speak about because it's mostly women coming on men.
Speaker 1: Women men's little journey.
Speaker 3: Although I've been hearing a lot lately about women going
Speaker 3: oh wait, I'm gay, well, and then leaving men that
Speaker 3: they've been with for years for women and then just
Speaker 3: like diving into pussy, and.
Speaker 1: Like, it's so interesting. That's happened a lot.
Speaker 3: It is so interesting, And I wonder to me that
Speaker 3: that's such a nature virtus versus nurture conversation, because you
Speaker 3: look around at the at the changes in society, and
Speaker 3: you go, how can that not be nature? A bit
Speaker 3: like or which is a nurture that cannot be nurture,
Speaker 3: that not be nurtural alone. But I think also too,
Speaker 3: if you grew up in a religious environment where from
Speaker 3: the job that you were taught that sexuality was a sin,
Speaker 3: I think your subconscious suppresses your sexuality so hard that
Speaker 3: you don't even have a chance to think if you're
Speaker 3: gay or not. You just automatically go straight, because that's
Speaker 3: what these the immediate people around you are not only saying,
Speaker 3: but they're saying, if you're gay, you're evil or wrong
Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck they fucking say, whatever bullshit they
Speaker 3: spew if that's talked to you from an early age,
Speaker 3: you could not even give yourself the chance.
Speaker 1: To ask yourself if you're gay.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also just do feel like bisexuality is a little
Speaker 3: bit more like I think most women are a little
Speaker 3: more bisexual than most men, yeah, who identify as straight. Right,
Speaker 3: So I think that if you are truly like feel
Speaker 3: angry at men or men have not been giving you
Speaker 3: what you need, that you can, in a little bit
Speaker 3: more of a nurture way test out that the lesbian
Speaker 3: side of your in a way that man I don't
Speaker 3: think ken right, and again.
Speaker 1: Just tossing down some concepts here. No, it's good. I agree,
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Yeah, because I just.
Speaker 3: I see women hand in hand all the time now
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Speaker 3: didn't see it before, and.
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Speaker 3: Good good for us. I'll just do some quick stuff then. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I figured out something I would add to the definition
Speaker 3: of love. How did and how did you come to
Speaker 3: the conclusion just I was just I was Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I do a lot.
Speaker 1: I give myself every day.
Speaker 3: I try to give myself at least an hour of
Speaker 3: time where I'm by myself outside or inside somewhere doing
Speaker 3: a thing that's kind of menial, like a like a
Speaker 3: dumb task that doesn't require my mental focus. And because
Speaker 3: that gives me a lot of room to think, I
Speaker 3: do a lot of my thinking. And I think one
Speaker 3: of the things that I would define love is because
Speaker 3: I still believe that you can love people that aren't
Speaker 3: kind to you. You can still you can love people
Speaker 3: that aren't respectful to you, you can love people that
Speaker 3: are pieces of shit. Truly, I believe that should is
Speaker 3: that's up to you. I don't you know, you do
Speaker 3: whatever you want. But I think one of the other
Speaker 3: definitions of love is being happy for somebody just because
Speaker 3: they're happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like wanting the.
Speaker 3: Best for somebody, but not romantic necessarily. Yeah no, No,
Speaker 3: I'm just in love in general. Just like one of
Speaker 3: the qualifiers for me of love is I'm happy just
Speaker 3: because you're happier if you get something you want that
Speaker 3: brings me joy. Because I was thinking about, like all
Speaker 3: the people that I don't speak to anymore, that not
Speaker 3: only did I love, there were some of the closest people.
Speaker 3: Four of the closest people in my life are I
Speaker 3: don't speak to anymore, but I still love them, all
Speaker 3: four of them. And if something good happened to them,
Speaker 3: like in any realm of their life, I would that
Speaker 3: would make me so happy. So I'm like, that's that
Speaker 3: for me. That's a big part of the definition of love.
Speaker 1: Right, I think, yeah, I was, like I was. I
Speaker 1: think we.
Speaker 3: Danced around that a bit because it was like, uh,
Speaker 3: like with forgiveness and like wishing people well and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I think that's
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 3: I also think that you can, but I also think
Speaker 3: that that's not necessarily one hundred percent, like it's not
Speaker 3: across the board, like because I think you can love
Speaker 3: people and still not be happy. Well, I guess it
Speaker 3: wouldn't be unconditional, though, Are we only talking unconditional now?
Speaker 3: I still don't know, okay, because I was like, unconditional, yes,
Speaker 3: that would have to be true. But I was like,
Speaker 3: there's definitely some people who I considered to love them,
Speaker 3: and there's some things that would happen for them that
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be happy for them because they just I go,
Speaker 3: this is you deserve it. I don't want to make
Speaker 3: that decision because like I'm not.
Speaker 1: Fucking God, but like, yeah I would.
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't be happy for them right in my humane,
Speaker 3: in my human, flooded mortal form, I would not be
Speaker 3: happy for them. Yeah, that's true, even though I love them.
Speaker 1: Also, I baby sat a baby.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, the one you told me that you
Speaker 3: were going to last just an hour? Yeah, so Christian
Speaker 3: had fresh hour with It was like a two month
Speaker 3: she's two months probably something like like that. She's younger
Speaker 3: than my friend's baby. Yeah, not by much though, I guess,
Speaker 3: but you know, one month and baby world is a
Speaker 3: big that's a big time.
Speaker 1: It's like a totally different body.
Speaker 3: And she came over. It was our friend and colleague
Speaker 3: who I love dearly. They also live in my building.
Speaker 3: So she was like, oh, you know she she had
Speaker 3: asked me the week prior, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, yes, it was only for an hour.
Speaker 1: It's so funny.
Speaker 3: I literally thought you asked no, I thought you like,
Speaker 3: send her a text message anytime that baby's free.
Speaker 1: That feels weird. Hey, let me get a hold of
Speaker 1: that baby.
Speaker 3: Can I use your baby as a properal quick to
Speaker 3: imagine myself of having a baby. But they both came
Speaker 3: up with the baby to drop her off, and now
Speaker 3: I Kevin. Kevin's never met a baby, right, So I
Speaker 3: Kevin on the leash because I didn't want him to
Speaker 3: bark because his bark is drawing. He still barked. I
Speaker 3: held him on his leash and he still barked. I'm like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 3: and I left the door open so there's no knocking.
Speaker 3: I really didn't want him to bark because I was like, though,
Speaker 3: the baby's gonna be freaked out by the by that bark.
Speaker 3: And then they laid down this little like playpad, blankets
Speaker 3: contraption for the baby, and there was all these toys
Speaker 3: and she the mom, was like, here's a bottle.
Speaker 1: She just ate so she probably won't be home. There's
Speaker 1: a bottle.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, cool, laid the baby on
Speaker 3: his baby can't hold up its neck. Baby can't like
Speaker 3: she smiles, but that's about it. Like that's she doesn't
Speaker 3: do much right. And so the first five minutes I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god. Kevin was sitting there very
Speaker 3: nicely and just staring and I was like, that's really
Speaker 3: sweet because I wanted to see how he was with
Speaker 3: the baby, and he was just like what the fuck
Speaker 3: is this kind of thing?
Speaker 1: And then the baby was like, what's up? You know hey?
Speaker 3: And they told me when they left, like, oh, we've
Speaker 3: never really left her with somebody she doesn't know, so
Speaker 3: we'll see how she does. It's only an hour, and
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I'm not a monster, so you know,
Speaker 3: the last fifty minutes when I say screaming at the
Speaker 3: top of the last fifty, so after five zero was
Speaker 3: ten minutes of peace, and then fifty minutes was screaming,
Speaker 3: screaming now, And I told myself, I'm like, this baby
Speaker 3: doesn't know who you are. The mom's not gonna be here,
Speaker 3: so the chances that you're gonna be dealing with a
Speaker 3: screamer the whole time are pretty high.
Speaker 1: Just to just think about, like, the poor kid doesn't know.
Speaker 3: Where his parents are, her parents are, you know, like
Speaker 3: so that that itself could make the baby like what
Speaker 3: the fuck is happening? Right? So then I'm playing on
Speaker 3: baby's screaming I'm like, Okay, we're gonna try stuff. I
Speaker 3: set her at the piano while I leaned her against
Speaker 3: me when I was sitting at the piano trying to
Speaker 3: play piano. She was interested for that at that for
Speaker 3: like two seconds, and then went back to scream, scream, scream,
Speaker 3: and I was like okay, and then Kevin started barking,
Speaker 3: and Kevin started taking her toys, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is a mess.
Speaker 3: And Kevin was like taking her playpen thing and dragging it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Jesus, it was so it was hilarious,
Speaker 3: and she was just your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: No, it's just me.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be alone that he had a gig
Speaker 3: or whatever, but I wanted to see how I would
Speaker 3: do alone. One of the things that I wanted to
Speaker 3: see because I know, like we talked earlier about this
Speaker 3: email about how what I would do in that situation
Speaker 3: versus what I know I should do.
Speaker 1: Sure are two different things, sure, And so I really wanted.
Speaker 3: To see if, like I, I kind of historically get
Speaker 3: really upset with yelling and screaming just because of the
Speaker 3: household I grew up.
Speaker 1: And when Kevin barks, it.
Speaker 3: Even though I logically know, like you just want something,
Speaker 3: like I just something, trust me down. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: like yelling. I don't like yelling either. I don't even
Speaker 3: grow up with yelling. Yeah, and like screaming, like but
Speaker 3: I know that babies like and sometimes I've been in
Speaker 3: public and I've heard not babies necessarily, but like a.
Speaker 1: Toddler scream like bloody murder.
Speaker 3: I remember I was on the Uss and Treppy Museum
Speaker 3: with my brother and my nephew, and these kids behind
Speaker 3: us were screaming that I wanted to fucking punch them.
Speaker 3: This is how shaken baby syndrome came about, because because literally,
Speaker 3: I mean like obviously it's horrible, but then you think
Speaker 3: about how like alone and like how young parents have
Speaker 3: been times and they don't and they literally don't know
Speaker 3: what to stop the baby from crying, and say they
Speaker 3: shake the baby right right, ran, No, it's not for
Speaker 3: a reason. Yeah yeah, yeah, and I get in that moment,
Speaker 3: you're right. So, but what I was curious about is
Speaker 3: if it would Obviously I wouldn't get mad at the
Speaker 3: baby she was screaming, like I knew that, No, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to see if I tensed up if I
Speaker 3: was like uneasy, you know, because I was like, i'd
Speaker 3: be interested to see if this if the baby like
Speaker 3: screams and stuff, if I'm moneyasy, because if I'm not,
Speaker 3: and I genuinely am not, I feel like i'd be
Speaker 3: ready for motherd and you weren't.
Speaker 1: I was so calm, so I didn't even tense. My
Speaker 1: shoulders didn't even tell because I was very also, not
Speaker 1: your baby, and you know you're getting rid of it
Speaker 1: in an hour, for sure.
Speaker 3: But I could have seen a situation where like years ago,
Speaker 3: before I worked on myself, that obviously would have been
Speaker 3: mad at the baby, but I would have been like,
Speaker 3: it's okay, Like I would have done something like total
Speaker 3: I And I genuinely was like.
Speaker 1: All right, this is gonna be a fun challenge. I
Speaker 1: want to figure out what calms you. It's okay. And
Speaker 1: I was talking to her, I was like, it's hard
Speaker 1: being here. I know, I'm so sorry your prong parents
Speaker 1: are downstairs. It's scary.
Speaker 6: I get it.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't even like like when I'm annoyed, yeah,
Speaker 3: most times people know it. I really try hard to
Speaker 3: hide it, but it's so it's impossible for me to
Speaker 3: hide it.
Speaker 1: It takes over my whole body. I fucking hate it.
Speaker 3: But but uh, and so I knew that, like if
Speaker 3: I was a little bit uneasy with this baby crying,
Speaker 3: I would be able to tell right away because I
Speaker 3: know myself, and I not only.
Speaker 1: Was, I got calmer, like I did that thing where.
Speaker 3: I because to be calm for her, Yeah, because her
Speaker 3: nervous system needed to calm down.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I don't know, I thought.
Speaker 3: I took that as a good sign, and I end
Speaker 3: by the end I was playing all I started playing
Speaker 3: Sam Cook because I was like, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: feel like Sam Cook.
Speaker 1: Would be good for a baby because these babies love
Speaker 1: Sam Cook. Everyone knows beautiful voice in the world.
Speaker 3: But and then I played Jeff Buckley Pllelujah, and I
Speaker 3: sang it to her and that she I watched this
Speaker 3: baby here Jeff Buckley, probably the first time she lived
Speaker 3: around you, and she her face was literally like, wait,
Speaker 3: what's this ship?
Speaker 1: Like she just like came alive.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, Now, our friends have to do a
Speaker 3: full concert anytime the baby's crying, because.
Speaker 6: You said the fan.
Speaker 3: So when when our friends when they walked in to
Speaker 3: the apartment because I kept I knew when they were
Speaker 3: going to come back, so I unlocked the door so
Speaker 3: there's no knocking, you know, so they could just walk out.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure, knowing you, you really didn't want that
Speaker 3: baby to be screaming when.
Speaker 1: They came back. No, I didn't. But if she was,
Speaker 1: she was, you know, like you know, it's I know,
Speaker 1: it's not my fault.
Speaker 3: But but when they came back, she was sleeping on
Speaker 3: my she fell asleep in my chest.
Speaker 1: Yea, So not only was she not screaming, she fell
Speaker 1: asleep on me. Did you tell them what happened?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: I was like, she was crying this after you left.
Speaker 3: It was scream city and then she just calmed down. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're seeing this. I'm cheating with what you're saying, right,
Speaker 3: I told her, But I mean it makes sense because
Speaker 3: she's never been left alone like that. Sure, but I
Speaker 3: was like the fact that that didn't even FaZe me
Speaker 3: a little bit. I didn't even feel one iota of
Speaker 3: like tension. Yeah that's a good sign.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, I still want a baby. So how
Speaker 1: many weeks in a has this been?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: Three? Yeah? Well, I wouldn't make the decision just yet.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, God, no Christ I'd rather not
Speaker 3: have a baby than have a baby. Now, I'm like,
Speaker 3: what do we think would be the appropriate time? No,
Speaker 3: not age, what do you think the appropriate amount of
Speaker 3: time that you need to consider having a baby? Also, well,
Speaker 3: my year with tattoos is my rule with tattoos is
Speaker 3: one year to think about it. Yes, if I want
Speaker 3: the tattoo for one year, just as badly I get it.
Speaker 1: Also, where'd you? Where'd you? The number? Thirty eight four?
Speaker 3: Like from like last last attempts city? If no, if
Speaker 3: the baby needs a sibling, I have a year left
Speaker 3: before I'm forty.
Speaker 1: Now, I mean I would also adopt.
Speaker 3: But I think if I'm going to have a baby,
Speaker 3: like in my body and I'll adopt or do a
Speaker 3: Sarahgate or something else to say. Again, who knows, I
Speaker 3: might not be able to have a baby, right, But
Speaker 3: if I did have a baby myself, I would say
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be past.
Speaker 1: Forty just for me, right, Wait, how you're thirty six?
Speaker 1: Thirty five? Oh you're thirty Okay, I always forget three
Speaker 1: more years.
Speaker 3: It would be three more years eighty get pregnant at
Speaker 3: thirty six.
Speaker 1: It's thirty. That means I get out of the baby
Speaker 1: at thirty seven, right, I always forget.
Speaker 3: I'm like, who because I'm like, there is a time,
Speaker 3: so that together is a time every year when I'm
Speaker 3: three years older than you. But it is only then
Speaker 3: it quickly okay, yeah, because I was like, what way
Speaker 3: is that all right? Because I'm only two, I'm two
Speaker 3: and a half years older than you, right exactly, and
Speaker 3: so for six months, gods you're older six ok yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: got it, got it?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I still want a baby, oh night now,
Speaker 1: but I still do. Okay.
Speaker 3: Guys, Also, uh, after you go to guys, we fucked
Speaker 3: after you follow us and follow the podcast on Apple
Speaker 3: Podcasts and subscribe to us and follow our social media.
Speaker 1: You know we have you.
Speaker 3: If you're watching this, you obviously know we have YouTube.
Speaker 3: We have a fucking clips channel. We have a chip
Speaker 3: clips channel just of clips of the podcast that I
Speaker 3: gotta say, I've been on Instagram lately and the times
Speaker 3: that I get washed away and forget time exists on Instagram.
Speaker 3: What I'm always doing ninety nine percent of the time
Speaker 3: watching our stuff. We're fucking hilarious.
Speaker 6: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Really funny.
Speaker 3: She's been doing this for years. Yeah, no, ever since
Speaker 3: girls on girls and stuff, well, honestly ever since. Is
Speaker 3: hot enough for you? Is enough for one of her
Speaker 3: first pieces of art, that's a classic. I don't know
Speaker 3: you know who's hot enough and needs to be? She's
Speaker 3: so hot Today's guest, Yes, she is incredible. She's making
Speaker 3: her second appearance on the show. So much has happened
Speaker 3: since she was last on the show. Uh. CBS is
Speaker 3: named her one of the top five standout comics in
Speaker 3: New York City. She had a fucking viral covid. Not
Speaker 3: viral in the bad way, viral in the good way.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome our dear friend and colleague,
Speaker 3: Robin Shawl.
Speaker 4: That's when the field the power. That's when, Wow, don't
Speaker 4: you damn you don't.
Speaker 7: Take a dophy shoulder? Can hem the way?
Speaker 1: Because you're all my Joan.
Speaker 5: I can tell you.
Speaker 3: Stuff.
Speaker 7: Come, I won't fight you.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not like that girl.
Speaker 4: I'm not like good guys.
Speaker 1: Jonan a surprise.
Speaker 4: If I say some then I go on.
Speaker 2: It gets to know its color.
Speaker 3: We are here with comedian Robin shaw So much has
Speaker 3: happened since we last had you on the show.
Speaker 1: You are in my apartment where I live with Steven
Speaker 1: in his office. Yeah, in that.
Speaker 8: Little like went downstairs and it was like a little.
Speaker 3: Creaky little staircase, but I was there's a lot of
Speaker 3: roaches there.
Speaker 8: I was so excited to be on. I'm excited to
Speaker 8: be on now too.
Speaker 2: But I mean I wasn't that close with you, guys,
Speaker 2: And I remember like reaching out and I think you
Speaker 2: reached out to Current.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, if you.
Speaker 8: Ever need a guess, like, I'm available, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I'd love to have you on.
Speaker 1: I remember being like, oh my god, I'm gonna be young. Guys.
Speaker 1: We fucked.
Speaker 3: It was the title of your episode had something to
Speaker 3: do with cake, yeah, because you were the fat cake
Speaker 3: and music in a music video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that, like some.
Speaker 3: Yeah he wanted like women that weren't like tiny, and
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 1: It was all tiny, and I was like the.
Speaker 8: Right, right, and I was the fat eating cake and
Speaker 8: the beautiful It's called Shaba the song.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so go to like thirty three seconds
Speaker 2: and eating cake because it's supposed to be like I'm
Speaker 2: his like wife or ugly how and you know, all
Speaker 2: the bitches.
Speaker 1: I love this industry, such a pleasure to be a
Speaker 1: part of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really truly so good to women and our self
Speaker 3: esteem and bitches.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever called women that in my life,
Speaker 2: except for referencing this is wrong video.
Speaker 3: Also, something a lot has happened since since you were
Speaker 3: on the podcast. You were with you had a boyfriend
Speaker 3: for a long time when we interviewed you, and you
Speaker 3: broke up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got super fucking famous. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So actually, you know what's so crazy?
Speaker 2: I was with a different I was with a guy
Speaker 2: that I was with for six years when I was
Speaker 2: on your podcast, broke up with him.
Speaker 8: Was with another guy for five years.
Speaker 1: And then broke up with him. I was just wondering
Speaker 1: about Yeah, a slut for monogamy?
Speaker 2: I really know, you know what it is When I
Speaker 2: find a nice guy, I'm like, Okay, I don't need
Speaker 2: to date other people.
Speaker 8: But then it's not necessarily the right fit.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: That's where your spidy senses look for.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like I'm I'm just I'm a whoever a nice.
Speaker 3: Guy said six in yours with somebody If it's not
Speaker 3: actually the right.
Speaker 2: Fit, when someone is so wonderful to you. It's it's
Speaker 2: easy to think it's the right fit.
Speaker 1: Does that make.
Speaker 3: Sense, Yes, because if they're nice the whole time, and
Speaker 3: that doesn't go away, but it reveals itself that your
Speaker 3: personalities and your likes and dislikes, so necessarily that takes
Speaker 3: a long time to figure out.
Speaker 1: So Frank, who I was with for.
Speaker 2: Five years, he's amazing, he's loving, He'll do anything for me.
Speaker 2: You'll do anything for my family. He's smart, he's successful.
Speaker 2: But I'm bored already.
Speaker 1: Say that.
Speaker 2: But he was in San Diego and I was in
Speaker 2: New York for five years. We did long distance.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that was dated when you came on our show. No,
Speaker 1: I dated. I was with hercules.
Speaker 2: This is like fake Okay, God, I was with him
Speaker 2: who lived in Long Beach and for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you live separately though, Yes, yes, and I
Speaker 3: remember we talked about that, like, oh shit, you can
Speaker 3: live separately, and then that that was one of the
Speaker 3: first times where I.
Speaker 1: Was like, I think it's better to live see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lived together and then we said, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm going to live in the city because I want
Speaker 2: to focus on my career. He stayed in Long beach
Speaker 2: and we got it for six years. Oh and this
Speaker 2: is the craziest part bringing it back to you.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 8: So I started a podcast like three months ago.
Speaker 2: It's called Cold Waiting and people call in right, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to do a special episode
Speaker 2: where I call out to my two exes and two
Speaker 2: guys that I just randomly dated this past year. He
Speaker 2: was like our most popular episode, and I kept saying
Speaker 2: to everyone, I'm like, guys, this was the guys.
Speaker 1: We fought show how.
Speaker 2: Because people are like, oh my god, this is such
Speaker 2: a great premise, and I kept saying, people, this.
Speaker 6: Has been done.
Speaker 2: This show was the most popular podcast. But so yeah,
Speaker 2: so the one that I was with when I spoke
Speaker 2: to him for the first time in seven years three
Speaker 2: weeks ago the.
Speaker 1: Podcast, Okay, so did you tell him?
Speaker 8: So I messaged him on Facebook message.
Speaker 1: Sorry it always started a Facebook message. That's exactly how
Speaker 1: we started.
Speaker 2: To terrible, especially because so I hadn't spoken for seven years.
Speaker 2: And then about five weeks ago, he sent me a
Speaker 2: message on Facebook message saying I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2: Now we don't follow each other on anything. Okay, So
Speaker 2: I was like, but but I have kind of been everywhere,
Speaker 2: so not shocked that it got back to him. Sure,
Speaker 2: she just wrote, I'm so proud of you, and so
Speaker 2: I said, oh my gosh, thank you so much.
Speaker 8: And that was it. Two weeks later, I sent.
Speaker 2: Him a Facebook message and I said, Hey, I know
Speaker 2: this sounds crazy, but I have a podcast and I'm
Speaker 2: going to be calling some guys i've dated. Would you
Speaker 2: feel comfortable if I called you we'd discussed our relationship,
Speaker 2: why we broke up, and I'd ask you a few
Speaker 2: questions about dating May and he's like, yeah, sure, let's
Speaker 2: do it. And I was shocked because he was like,
Speaker 2: he's not like in the arts.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't form.
Speaker 3: A canidate, so maybe it's less vulnerable because that's why
Speaker 3: we got guy. I think that half the guys kind
Speaker 3: of got on because there's no cameras and I'm a
Speaker 3: fake name.
Speaker 2: That's what I said to I was still shocked, though,
Speaker 2: I'm shot. The all four guys I asked said yes, wow,
Speaker 2: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Like also like who you are, as like they don't
Speaker 3: think you're going to do anything like vindict right, and.
Speaker 2: And and none of them ended badly. All of them
Speaker 2: ended with like I love you, but this isn't working.
Speaker 3: The guys, the guys who I ended badly with won't
Speaker 3: come on.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what people are, like. All your axes have
Speaker 2: such nice things to say about you. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I asked four guys that like me. I didn't ask
Speaker 2: the guys that ended the guy, Yes, exactly so, but
Speaker 2: that call was so crazy. We both got so vulnerable
Speaker 2: and like started crying. And I never spoke to him
Speaker 2: like this while we were together.
Speaker 3: It's like so crazy and seven years you're a different person.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and I was like, I said, what's the thing.
Speaker 2: What was the best thing about dating me? And he
Speaker 2: was like, you taught me what love is?
Speaker 1: And I, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I was like I wasn't ready for I thought it
Speaker 2: was gonna be so lighthearted because of who he is
Speaker 2: and who I am, and it did not go.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, so you guys had a brilliant idea.
Speaker 2: Thank you, And there's no one who this podcast has
Speaker 2: lasted so long.
Speaker 3: But Robin, that's so funny that you said that. He
Speaker 3: said you he taught you taught him what love is.
Speaker 3: Because I have like a joke based on that because
Speaker 3: about how much women given relationships and how little we
Speaker 3: receive in return.
Speaker 1: Like what would you say?
Speaker 3: Is like would you get from not not even like
Speaker 3: shading him, but like realistically, what's the biggest thing that
Speaker 3: he gave me?
Speaker 2: So I ended each call with that what I got
Speaker 2: from them, and the same thing. I started crying and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll I cry again and telling you
Speaker 2: right now. But I was never like the pretty girl
Speaker 2: or the sexy girl or the girl the guy wanted
Speaker 2: until I dated him and he thought I was the
Speaker 2: hottest girl that ever woke like that's nice this planet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I even share this on the podcast.
Speaker 2: I was like, one time I made him show me
Speaker 2: what porn he watched and he was like no, and
Speaker 2: I was like, just show me your last three videos.
Speaker 2: And the last three videos the girls looked like me,
Speaker 2: Like they were curvy, they were short, they had big butts,
Speaker 2: they were thick girls, which I wasn't used to guys
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, go after like the tiny little blode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially like I grew up on in Long Island
Speaker 2: where everyone was a size zero, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and they really tried to look as hot as
Speaker 3: possible to make up for stuff or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like conny, which I grew up thinking skinny
Speaker 2: related to beautiful, which yeah, society and so Hercules was
Speaker 2: the first guy to teach me. Oh no, I like
Speaker 2: thick girls. I like big butts, you know. So I said,
Speaker 2: you taught me like that I was beautiful and that
Speaker 2: I was sexy and desirable and that's I needed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, them so, and you could kill those lessons with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so that.
Speaker 2: And then I called Frank, who was with for five years,
Speaker 2: who it was so nice, but he lived in San
Speaker 2: Diego and I was in New York and he after
Speaker 2: five years, like was very clear neither one of us
Speaker 2: wanted to live in the other person's city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like holding out to make sure thought
Speaker 3: you loved each other so much.
Speaker 1: Such a guy.
Speaker 3: Obviously you're not choosing San Diego. It's like you were
Speaker 3: just waiting if Frank wanted to move to New York.
Speaker 2: That's the question. It's not bad, but San Diego is
Speaker 2: not to New York City, correct, but one of the performers.
Speaker 2: So I'm either gonna live in New York or LA.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, you know to all my family and friends
Speaker 2: are in New York or Los Angeles. Those are the
Speaker 2: two and some some were like, well, why can't you
Speaker 2: live in LA and he was in Diego No.
Speaker 1: Five years, Like at this point you could both move
Speaker 1: to l A. Yeah, that could be. He doesn't want to.
Speaker 1: He loved his life.
Speaker 3: So so you guys chose your lives over each other.
Speaker 3: So yeah, being together because one of you would have
Speaker 3: to make the sacrifice. And that's great because so often
Speaker 3: we get emails all goddamn day from couples that are like,
Speaker 3: I moved for him, I moved for her.
Speaker 1: And then I realized, why did I fucking do that?
Speaker 3: More?
Speaker 1: I moved for him?
Speaker 3: I think never usually wanted we've ever gotten I moved
Speaker 3: for her, but I wanted to throw that out there
Speaker 3: just in case we did and I didn't read it.
Speaker 3: But you know what, Christina, though, someone's actually recently told
Speaker 3: me they were like one of my guy friends. I
Speaker 3: forgot who was Otherwise I would one hundred percent put
Speaker 3: them on blast. Now. They basically said, like, uh, moving
Speaker 3: for a woman is gay?
Speaker 2: Like that was right on trend what we just said.
Speaker 3: He said, like he was like, I know queer absolutely.
Speaker 3: I'm speaking an instantive comedian the bag terms, but I
Speaker 3: mean basically it was like if that was like, it's like.
Speaker 1: It's the beta move. God damn, it's a beta move.
Speaker 3: And then so so if women stopped moving for men,
Speaker 3: would more men just be alone? Yes, No, they would
Speaker 3: find no because they would just find a woman who
Speaker 3: would do it. Yeah, they would walk to the local
Speaker 3: convenience store just soone's going to someone's gonna move for
Speaker 3: somebody's already there in the town you want to move to.
Speaker 1: That's like a country song. I was just like, move
Speaker 1: out of the way.
Speaker 3: But I feel like that makes sense though, because I
Speaker 3: dating you know, when you're in your thirties, that's one
Speaker 3: of the things that's different, Like people are less willing
Speaker 3: to make changes because they've really got used to a
Speaker 3: certain quality of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm like, why would I move my entire
Speaker 2: life that I really love for a guy where then
Speaker 2: I don't wouldn't love the life I love him and I'm.
Speaker 1: Not gonna love it. Yeah, resent Resentment always creeps in.
Speaker 2: Even when I would go for like because we would
Speaker 2: see each other every like six weeks, right, and when
Speaker 2: I would go there, I would stay for like three
Speaker 2: weeks because I have the flexibility.
Speaker 1: He had a real job.
Speaker 2: So when he comes seek and only when I say
Speaker 2: real job, I mean like office job.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, he can't take three weeks off.
Speaker 2: He could take a week off and sure, but by
Speaker 2: the end of the third week, I would be so
Speaker 2: upset that I wasn't performing.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: how's my.
Speaker 8: Career supposed to be taking off if I'm just sitting
Speaker 8: here for three weeks?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 3: That's a long time to kind of just say, like
Speaker 3: I would be like, mom, I guess.
Speaker 1: I'm starting a show in San Diego.
Speaker 3: Was a break up hard because he still loved each other.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's harder, I almost it's easier when they did
Speaker 3: something fucked up your piece of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was definitely really hard, especially because this
Speaker 2: is kind of when my career was taking off, and
Speaker 2: so I started having fans who knew about him and
Speaker 2: loved him, And so for like a month, I wasn't
Speaker 2: talking about him because I was trying to get helping.
Speaker 1: The fans would forget. I had a void, hilarious time.
Speaker 1: Never forget what I know they'll forget. They will never
Speaker 1: forget what you said you ate three years ago.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: So then eventually, when I did have to say it,
Speaker 1: I hated.
Speaker 2: Like people are like, no, you'll make it work, and
Speaker 2: I'm like no, no, like it's done.
Speaker 3: You know, that's an interesting reaction. Our fan base is like, good,
Speaker 3: we hated Stephen. Even you're talking about explaining how much
Speaker 3: your fans liked your boyfriend, I've never experienced that.
Speaker 2: It's because you guys tell your assholes.
Speaker 1: Oh that maybe that's I'm dating an amazing man.
Speaker 3: Now he's not an asshole, but for the most part performer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a singer ooh and very sexy, but not mean, kind, kind,
Speaker 3: nice man. Usually it's not that boring. I promise it's
Speaker 3: boring for me, but that's okay. But the thing is like, okay,
Speaker 3: so kind and nice to me or different things. Yes,
Speaker 3: I yah, I want someone who has like a kind
Speaker 3: like to me. It doesn't even you have to be kind.
Speaker 3: It has to be like an like you have to
Speaker 3: have a good set of morals, right, and like you
Speaker 3: have to have ethics. People don't have ethics, and then
Speaker 3: that's very important. But like on a day to day
Speaker 3: do you have to be like very nice to me?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Honestly, that puts more pressure on me than I can be.
Speaker 3: If we can both be at assholes, that's much better. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's way more fun. Yeah, we can be assholes to
Speaker 3: each other and not take it personally.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite relationship.
Speaker 2: That's a safety faull mine is where they're super nice
Speaker 2: to me, but I could get away with doing it whatever.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, Yeah, it's fun for me for a little while.
Speaker 3: Can I get really out of hand?
Speaker 1: So I don't. I need to be wrangled a little.
Speaker 3: Bit, like I need someone who someone who every now
Speaker 3: and then it's gonna be like fucking cut you know.
Speaker 2: God, I don't want anyone who's gonna call me out
Speaker 2: of my ship, like you know, if people like it,
Speaker 2: I need someone to call me out of my ship.
Speaker 8: I don't want that at all. I want someone who
Speaker 8: lets me just do.
Speaker 2: Like, do I know when I'm in the wrong, when
Speaker 2: I'm being a bit sure, don't call me out on it.
Speaker 1: Let you do? You call yourself out on it quickly
Speaker 1: or I.
Speaker 2: Know I say it in my head, I don't admit
Speaker 2: it out last. And I pretty much only have friends
Speaker 2: who like so. I went through a phase this year
Speaker 2: where I'm just like dating just degenerates, like they're.
Speaker 1: Just like fun, just not in you.
Speaker 8: I just want to have fun right now forever.
Speaker 2: Like I sometimes like I'll say to you know you guys,
Speaker 2: know Regina to Jacob.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like am I out of control?
Speaker 2: She's like, no, you haven't.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Just surround myself with people who, no matter what I'm doing, married.
Speaker 3: Too, So I feel like nothing more fun than my
Speaker 3: best friend is also married. Married friends love when their
Speaker 3: best friend because they're like, I'm just living vicariously.
Speaker 1: And she wants the stories. Am I going too far?
Speaker 6: And she's like, you're.
Speaker 2: Living your life.
Speaker 3: It's like Seinfeld describing driving in a taxi when he's like,
Speaker 3: I'd never do that.
Speaker 1: In my car. That's a married friend, a wore friend.
Speaker 3: How is the New York City dating scene because we've
Speaker 3: not talked to people that are active on its Okay.
Speaker 1: I think it depends what you want.
Speaker 2: So I have some friends who are really looking for
Speaker 2: their husband and some have to be their the father
Speaker 2: of their kids. I just want to yeah right now,
Speaker 2: I'm just looking for guys who are fun and attractive
Speaker 2: and I can trust because like that won't do something
Speaker 2: scary like pictures are post about me or whatever you know.
Speaker 1: So, but have you had that happen?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, no, but not that.
Speaker 2: But I was like getting sexy with this guy on
Speaker 2: FaceTime and I saw him take a screenshot. No, no,
Speaker 2: and yeah, and I like freaked out on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah what did you say? What did he say?
Speaker 2: I said, did you just take a screenshot? He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you a cot And I was like delete it now delete.
Speaker 2: The men don't realize that's not And I made him
Speaker 2: send me a screenshot of his camera and is deleted
Speaker 2: because I just didn't trust him.
Speaker 1: And he's not like he was.
Speaker 2: He's not that bright of a guy to forget to
Speaker 2: like figure out all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But that was like your last time.
Speaker 2: But I'm just like so anyway otherwise, you know everyone,
Speaker 2: But I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 1: But it's because I'm not looking for a husband. Are
Speaker 1: hot guys dumber your experience?
Speaker 3: Oh no, like women, because I've met some hot guys
Speaker 3: that are so hot it's so dumb that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: It's relaxing.
Speaker 2: I've been finding so both Hercules and Frank were older
Speaker 2: than me, and now I've only been dating young y.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Love, But like I'm thirty eight.
Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of like thirty twenty nine
Speaker 2: to like thirty threes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm thirty seven of my ex
Speaker 1: boyfriend's twenty five.
Speaker 8: Oh, it's like so fun and very much calmer.
Speaker 3: Well, what have you noticed about you being treated nicely?
Speaker 3: That's the way I mean. Okay, what what have you
Speaker 3: noticed in terms of like their demeanor, their attitude and
Speaker 3: this in this terms of sex.
Speaker 1: Stamina, that's for sure. Yeah, Like they get hard. Yeah
Speaker 1: in the first place, that's cool. Get hard, Yeah, stay hard,
Speaker 1: go again.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like they want to all night, which like sometimes
Speaker 8: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm too tired, and I think I have to, you know,
Speaker 2: cheated with the younger guys, you know, just you do that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm not up for it. Only like I went,
Speaker 2: I was sinking this guy for a little bit.
Speaker 8: We call him the doctor.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't even know his name for like the
Speaker 2: first month, which is why I would talk to say
Speaker 2: the doctor to my friends because I couldn't remember his name.
Speaker 1: That's so fun.
Speaker 2: But he would like it'd be like three in the
Speaker 2: morning and I'd want to go to sleep, and he'd
Speaker 2: want like more jeez, I.
Speaker 1: Was middle of the night or were you already Well,
Speaker 1: we were.
Speaker 2: Like we've been going right now, and he's like, I
Speaker 2: need you need to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Oh that's also things with these younger guys.
Speaker 1: They won't leave really now.
Speaker 3: You gotta get juicy, yeah, like they want to sleep over,
Speaker 3: like yeah, oh I love that. Yeah, they really like
Speaker 3: being around. Nice for me too, like you got to
Speaker 3: go home? Yeah yeah, especially a one night stand I
Speaker 3: don't want to like or even.
Speaker 1: A hook up.
Speaker 3: Like the best time of my life that I really loved, honestly,
Speaker 3: more than a relationship is having a solid rotation and
Speaker 3: you go out with your friends and you're like, I
Speaker 3: don't know who it's going to be tonight, but it's
Speaker 3: gonna be one of y'all, and it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: Because my top five you guys, are you made it
Speaker 1: in You're good?
Speaker 2: Anybody you had like a top five where there's some
Speaker 2: you liked better than others, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I liked them for sure, But I would have
Speaker 3: been happy to have had any of those five in
Speaker 3: my bed.
Speaker 2: I dated for the first time a non monogamous but
Speaker 2: ethically non monogamous.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's what all men say that's man. You
Speaker 1: know that couldn't take me so long.
Speaker 2: Like when I first because when happen was we matched
Speaker 2: on hinge and then he was like, did you read
Speaker 2: my prof Oh he liked my picture and so I
Speaker 2: liked his back or whatever.
Speaker 1: Started talking.
Speaker 2: He's like, I hate when girls don't read profiles, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, I went to go read
Speaker 2: his profile and then too.
Speaker 8: It said like ethically no monogmal. I was like, so
Speaker 8: what does that mean?
Speaker 2: He was like that I'm in multiple relationships and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: so you just like to fuck a lot of people,
Speaker 2: and he's like, no, that's not what it's about. I
Speaker 2: have like real relationships and connections.
Speaker 3: He's polyamorous, but did he have a primary Like was
Speaker 3: he married to at the time? No, because but since
Speaker 3: then he got married, he was also dating people.
Speaker 1: She was magic getting married to a guy because my
Speaker 1: friends were there.
Speaker 3: I think that kind of so we going on Saturday,
Speaker 3: I'm getting married.
Speaker 2: But back how it is though, but he was one
Speaker 2: of the people I had called on the podcast because
Speaker 2: like we did, we dated for like a month I think,
Speaker 2: and so on our first date, I'm like, I was like,
Speaker 2: so fascinated, not that I ever want to live this
Speaker 2: life because I'm way too jealous, Like you have to
Speaker 2: be really cool and I am not.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah about yourself.
Speaker 6: I get like that.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it comes out of nowhere just to cut to
Speaker 3: somebody and you're like I gotta go.
Speaker 8: Yeah I can't, Like I know, I need full.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so he was telling me that, like he
Speaker 2: just could date someone and then they go on set.
Speaker 2: They have their own dating life separately, but then they
Speaker 2: also do like group things together.
Speaker 1: The group things like where you like, he loves gang.
Speaker 8: Bangs, me too, That's great, Well then I have.
Speaker 1: Someone you But it was really I want to do
Speaker 1: again day.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, what are you doing the rest
Speaker 2: of the weekend He's like, oh, Sunday at ten am,
Speaker 2: I have a gang bang.
Speaker 3: Like oh my god, I love this guy.
Speaker 1: A cuddle party.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: That's why, like my followers and I would call him
Speaker 8: ten a m gang.
Speaker 2: Bang guy just because like ten am and IM on.
Speaker 1: The Lord's Day.
Speaker 2: That is fucking Also, are you waking up a M?
Speaker 2: So apparently he was a mom and she had way
Speaker 2: like her kids are like.
Speaker 1: Or something better and better. I love that the mom
Speaker 1: still makeing time for a gang bang.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the husband like it's all like for them,
Speaker 2: and you know what he was saying, He's part of
Speaker 2: this whole community and like there's they send out rules,
Speaker 2: but it's like like the woman's like do's and don't
Speaker 2: and then when everyone gets there, someone whoever is organizing
Speaker 2: it reads.
Speaker 1: The rules last be forgetting.
Speaker 8: And I was like, I was like, I want to
Speaker 8: come one day and be like the rule reader.
Speaker 2: Like y X match, you know, I really like one
Speaker 2: should share a comedian for that, right, the reader.
Speaker 1: You can roast the rules a little bit. Yeah, did they?
Speaker 1: He say what the rules were?
Speaker 3: He says they're always different because the girl say, like
Speaker 3: he's like, not double penetration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably one girl.
Speaker 3: He was saying, Oh it's a gang bang with just
Speaker 3: one woman, yeah, and it's all that's a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 1: I don't want. I was a gang bang with with mix,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I always party.
Speaker 3: A gang bang is like think of it as like
Speaker 3: you gang up on each other one girl multiple. I
Speaker 3: thought gang bang in sex and like and like orgy
Speaker 3: were interchangeable. Game bang is specifically only one female, one
Speaker 3: female getting rail multiple mass I we've been fighting against
Speaker 3: for years.
Speaker 1: No, I want that.
Speaker 3: That's what I want, very popular in my fantasy.
Speaker 8: So he was like, I was asking, give me some
Speaker 8: examples of rules.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: For example, this one girl that is one of his partners, like, well,
Speaker 2: if you're not hard, don't approach her. She want that
Speaker 2: for everyone?
Speaker 1: Yes, can we just medically say that I.
Speaker 2: Should be a I don't want to work to make
Speaker 2: you hard, Like, if you're not hard, then don't participate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And then some have like you can't
Speaker 1: come on the face or you can't blah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I like that.
Speaker 1: Everyone has different rules, right, and no DP.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of times dps involved are like can
Speaker 3: you touch my tips while this guy's sucking me from behind?
Speaker 1: There's a lot. Yes, it's a lot of rules, but.
Speaker 3: We can gang bank. It could also be it could
Speaker 3: also be like a man. It's not gender specific. I
Speaker 3: looked at it's not because it could be Usually it
Speaker 3: could be a gang bang, could be a bunch of
Speaker 3: women on one guy. I mean the way it's it's
Speaker 3: the way it's actually defined, is this successive rape of
Speaker 3: one person by a group of people.
Speaker 1: Rape.
Speaker 3: That's what that's what a gain because they're you're they're
Speaker 3: using the actual you know, we're using real world definitions
Speaker 3: to then apply to.
Speaker 1: But don't we call it gang rape?
Speaker 3: Well, like in a court this this is the definition
Speaker 3: of gang bang.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but I mean obviously yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, because that's the kinky stuff, is the most
Speaker 3: consensual stuff, more consentual than like media guy on hindre
Speaker 3: of the restaurant going home.
Speaker 1: But that's because they're using it. This is not a
Speaker 1: sex term dictionary.
Speaker 2: Right right, He says, like the reason why there's so
Speaker 2: many rules is because consent is sexy.
Speaker 1: That's like his little model, which it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how you do, trust me. But what's
Speaker 3: the what's the kinkiest thing you've ever done?
Speaker 1: May? Nothing like that? Exciting? What?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: What is it? Nothing that exciting? Hold on, let me think.
Speaker 1: I mean, you stuck donuts pretty good. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is kinky or funny, but it's probably funny.
Speaker 6: Then.
Speaker 2: But one of the boyfriends was like, uh, actually know
Speaker 2: every guy I dated is a big butt guy, clearly, but.
Speaker 1: He loved butts.
Speaker 2: So I let him decorate my butt on his birthday
Speaker 2: like a cake.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I don't eat your ass, eat your ass.
Speaker 3: No wait, he just decorated your ass and stared as
Speaker 3: but not like eat my ass, like eat your asshole.
Speaker 3: No he but he licked the defintions off your ass.
Speaker 3: I want to but was it fun for you? I
Speaker 3: feel like I love a snow build, you know, And
Speaker 3: if I'm laying on my stomach completely naked and he's
Speaker 3: just like licking something off my butt cheek, I feel
Speaker 3: like that's a nice Yeah.
Speaker 8: I like how happy he would get, like we do
Speaker 8: this for his birthday every.
Speaker 1: Year and like it whim Yeah.
Speaker 8: I don't know if I feel like.
Speaker 1: I would call that a kink.
Speaker 3: I would say, like a kink is more like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of power dynamic and kink. Yeah, Like that's
Speaker 3: like nothing, so you don't introduce like a power dynamic,
Speaker 3: which most people I would say, don't.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 8: I mean it is like maybe the occasional slap.
Speaker 1: The way do you do like get out here? Do
Speaker 1: you do dirty talk? Oh my god, you hear.
Speaker 3: Your personality I would think would not make itself well
Speaker 3: to like I mean.
Speaker 8: Maybe like a little like you know, but I.
Speaker 1: Can't imagine you'd be like being like silent. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: not silent.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just yeah, like yeah, say like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but nothing like I'm not like filthy okay, yeah, but
Speaker 2: a lot of times the guys are felthy.
Speaker 1: Do you like that? Yeah? I love when I got tell.
Speaker 2: Me whatever the guy wants to do. I'm usually like okay,
Speaker 2: like I'm down for to have fun.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It is never usually like me going you know what
Speaker 1: I need or what I want to right, I need
Speaker 1: his shouldered Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I just like I like guys that have high
Speaker 2: sex drives so that I don't like to be the one.
Speaker 2: I remember my first boyfriend when I was like twenty one.
Speaker 2: I was pretty late bloomer. No, I wasn't re late bloomer.
Speaker 2: Just no one wanted to date me.
Speaker 3: But you were trying to bloom sex drive No boyfriends
Speaker 3: really mean anything before twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was like it took me so long
Speaker 2: to find someone like who want into date man?
Speaker 8: And he had no sex drive, which made me feel very.
Speaker 2: It makes you feel disgusting, Yeah, Like I would try
Speaker 2: something and he would be like like, and I'm like
Speaker 2: it feels serious, Yeah, which is why then what I
Speaker 2: was saying with her, he was like making me feel
Speaker 2: so wanted because literally he wanted me all the time
Speaker 2: and anything I put on and he loved leather, so
Speaker 2: if I put on leather pants, he was game. O.
Speaker 3: Yeah that is so important. Like your partner really does
Speaker 3: need to be very sexually attracted. Yeah, that makes it
Speaker 3: that that carries you cry to the girl like that's
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree, you know the other way around.
Speaker 3: But would they just never vocalize it?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: But I think guys do need us to be really
Speaker 3: attracted to them too, Like I think it does hurt
Speaker 3: their feelings and their masculinity, but I just don't think
Speaker 3: they are openly like talking about it the way we are.
Speaker 1: It hurts our feelings. So you think you know when
Speaker 1: a guy wants to sex and you're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not in the mood an ego blow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with somebody who I have a much higher
Speaker 3: sex drive and it hurts my feelings every single time.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, don't take a personal, don't take a personal,
Speaker 1: don't take a personal.
Speaker 3: But every time I take it so personal, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to break up because then it's safe
Speaker 3: I won't get.
Speaker 1: Here like that's that's the likes to which I go
Speaker 1: right away.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If a guy that doesn't have a high sex drive,
Speaker 2: in the fact that, like I want to sex and
Speaker 2: he doesn't, I get too hurt.
Speaker 1: I'm so sen to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah same, Ye, So you've been with a guy
Speaker 3: like that that just one time?
Speaker 1: Just him?
Speaker 2: Really wise, I think like I'm attracted to really nice guys.
Speaker 2: I'm attracted guys who really like me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. I don't extremely healthy vough.
Speaker 3: I also like the number one quality. I look for
Speaker 3: the guys that thinks I'm the best person on the planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I told my therapist this and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's great. Yeah that's good.
Speaker 8: Because and I think this way, there's no chase.
Speaker 1: I don't want to chase. I don't have to. That's
Speaker 1: not really if you're playing feminine energy, that's not really
Speaker 1: the role. Yeah, what's not really chasing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because you're the woman doesn't mean you I
Speaker 3: have to be the feminine energy. But I feels like
Speaker 3: you are, and so you shouldn't be the chaser. And again,
Speaker 3: because I'm too sensitive, So if you reject me.
Speaker 1: I'm destroyed. Yeah, if you Yeah, I'm the same way.
Speaker 1: I'm anxious avoidant. Though if you reject me, I'll never
Speaker 1: talk to you again.
Speaker 3: I will pretend you've never existed, and I'll block everybody
Speaker 3: you were friends that I follow.
Speaker 1: Done. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 3: You're actually really good with rejection in all areas, not
Speaker 3: just romance. When I when I'm in love and I
Speaker 3: know you and stuff like. That's why, like with my
Speaker 3: current partner, like getting rejected for sex hurts so bad
Speaker 3: because like we have But if but I'll go up
Speaker 3: to guys and ask them out all the time and
Speaker 3: I get rejected, I'm like, it's not personal because I
Speaker 3: know it can't be personal. If I really took that personal,
Speaker 3: there's something deeply wrong with me. But there's there's a
Speaker 3: lot of instances where I there's more opportunity to take
Speaker 3: something personally, and I still will and I'll get really
Speaker 3: hurt even though I know it's not right.
Speaker 2: I think we'd be fine because we are rejected on
Speaker 2: a daily basis in this career.
Speaker 3: But if I think there's something about that that's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, you need to respite from the rejection
Speaker 3: in your romantic life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this fucking constant.
Speaker 3: Rejection is exactly what it is, yes, or like, is
Speaker 3: there anything? Is there any part of my life where
Speaker 3: I cannot be rejected? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Which is why I stay with these guys for so long,
Speaker 2: is because they make me feel like I'm so safe in.
Speaker 3: A career where I'm not safe totally and you need
Speaker 3: that and so yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 1: If anything, the relationship is wonderful for that.
Speaker 3: I feel like people get into romantic relationships they just
Speaker 3: need different things out of them, and so one of
Speaker 3: the things you need is safety, so that will make
Speaker 3: you go to the distance. Like some people don't really
Speaker 3: care about sex, like their sexual chemistry with the guy.
Speaker 3: They're like that it doesn't really matter, and I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody's got their own like first, second, third priority.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only I think feeling safe is almost more
Speaker 2: important to me than the sex. It's not, actually, you know,
Speaker 2: I want both, but yeah.
Speaker 3: But it's yeah, that makes sense. I need sex and
Speaker 3: just to not be annoyed. Those are really that's it.
Speaker 3: I just get I just someone. So many are just
Speaker 3: so annoying to have around. So I really like, there's
Speaker 3: so many if you. I can spend long periods of
Speaker 3: time with you in my space and you're not annoying.
Speaker 1: That is like, that's we're going to go to the distance.
Speaker 3: I also think too, the world that we live in
Speaker 3: with everything so like manically fast and the phone screens
Speaker 3: all the time, we need to be like you need
Speaker 3: to be the only person in the room for at
Speaker 3: least an hour a day too, Like if you're always
Speaker 3: around somebody like they could just be breathing, that's got
Speaker 3: to be annoying. Well, and that also does I was
Speaker 3: just talking to someone like who was telling me like
Speaker 3: they were well read on the subject, where they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's been studies done.
Speaker 1: Oh I think it was my therapist.
Speaker 3: There's been studies done that and she lives with her husband,
Speaker 3: but like, there's been studies done that that it's easier
Speaker 3: to keep a sexual relationship intact if you don't live together.
Speaker 1: And because again, because I was kind of I think.
Speaker 3: I was, I went on a little bit of a
Speaker 3: rant about how I'm so frustrated by male partners because
Speaker 3: you know, what I've learned from doing this show is
Speaker 3: that a relationship really is whatever you want a relationship
Speaker 3: to be, and true, and all the men that I
Speaker 3: date are so like caught up in this societal structure
Speaker 3: of a relationship, and especially at this age, it includes,
Speaker 3: you know, moving in with somebody. And when I say that,
Speaker 3: I really don't see myself living with someone. Every every
Speaker 3: man has said to me, that's not a real relationship.
Speaker 1: And I was like, how did I become the boy here? Right?
Speaker 1: How the fuck?
Speaker 3: And I was like I really, I just and now
Speaker 3: it's like, I really just don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't I do.
Speaker 3: Not see a world in which I'm living with someone
Speaker 3: and I'm happy about it. It is a guaranteed way
Speaker 3: to keep your sex life good, you think, I really think,
Speaker 3: and I just you don't get annoyed with them.
Speaker 2: I just there's so many different relationships, Like there's like
Speaker 2: old school.
Speaker 8: To think husband wife, live together, that's relationshipop.
Speaker 2: And even Frank and I is confusing for a lot
Speaker 2: of people because he still comes and visits me like
Speaker 2: he was just in last weekend.
Speaker 1: At your apartment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you save them the couch bed. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you don't do it? No, we do, okay, because I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm shared.
Speaker 1: Talk to them. We definitely, But do you feel like
Speaker 1: that's like stopping you from moving on.
Speaker 8: No, not at all, because I date, he dates.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: You can't do that when you have a boyfriend because
Speaker 2: he's not my boyfriend and while you're a girlfriend. But
Speaker 2: we just like and so people will ask my mom
Speaker 2: all the time, like family, because it'll come to family parties,
Speaker 2: it comes to like weddings or whatever, like Robin Fring
Speaker 2: back together, And my Mom's like, it's complicated because no,
Speaker 2: how to say, like.
Speaker 1: So you just jealous when he goes out, well.
Speaker 8: Because I don't know, he doesn't post.
Speaker 2: Remember, he's like you know, he did say in the beginning,
Speaker 2: because he follows me on social media and I always
Speaker 2: I have a date tonight that you know, and I
Speaker 2: always talk about these guys. He said in the beginning,
Speaker 2: it was very difficult for him. Oh yeah, he didn't
Speaker 2: verbalize it. And now he just like kind of gets like,
Speaker 2: we're not together, but we still this like amazing relationship
Speaker 2: and when we're together, except I was dating this guy
Speaker 2: for a little bit and Frank and I saw each
Speaker 2: other when I was in l A and we because
Speaker 2: I was seeing someone like we didn't right, and he
Speaker 2: was so respectful of.
Speaker 1: It, and he didn't act like but heard or.
Speaker 9: Created this weird relationship with sure, yeah, if you think
Speaker 9: about it, Like, I don't know, though, I'd say monogamy
Speaker 9: isn't natural, Like I go back and forth on this podcast,
Speaker 9: because there are a lot.
Speaker 3: Of species in nature that are monogamous, like bald eagles
Speaker 3: are monogamous unless their partner dies.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it is. It does occur in nature,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, maybe it is. It can be natural.
Speaker 1: It just depends on.
Speaker 8: Because I actually think I still I think I feel
Speaker 8: like natural.
Speaker 1: That works for that.
Speaker 2: You just I think there's no right, like right now,
Speaker 2: this is working for Frank and I where I date,
Speaker 2: he dates, and when we see each other. But in
Speaker 2: a year, I may meet someone that I just want
Speaker 2: to be with him, and I'm like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: Frank and I are just friends from a distance, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, changes and there's no one right. As long as
Speaker 1: you feel good, you both feel good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I always check in with them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you okay? Yeah, that's great, that's great communication.
Speaker 1: But who initiated that break up?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's what I was getting there. Yeah he is.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's just I think he would get back
Speaker 8: together happily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I think he also understands like
Speaker 2: this will never go and will yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he loves you a lot. But in
Speaker 1: San Diego.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if I moved to San Diego, like that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know, but yeah, it was definitely
Speaker 2: me and who initiated. But he was like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: see why, right.
Speaker 1: And I get that. I respect that.
Speaker 3: I was walking around to the Lower East Side yesterday
Speaker 3: and I was like, God, damn, I there is no
Speaker 3: one I've ever met who I like as much as
Speaker 3: I like New York City.
Speaker 1: I was like, I am like passionately in love with
Speaker 1: New York's I'm.
Speaker 6: Doing great right now.
Speaker 3: So if you love New York, I mean it depends
Speaker 3: by the neighborhood. My neighborhood feels great. Wait, what what
Speaker 3: makes you say Metown?
Speaker 1: Maybe not because I love right around here. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of leaning over the bad Eighth Avenues. So
Speaker 1: I live off of Eighth Ave and yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was like, I was a come downtop, come down to yeh,
Speaker 3: don't hang out.
Speaker 1: Around this is all I don't leave. It's it's why
Speaker 1: you live around here.
Speaker 2: You know why, because so just live on the Upper
Speaker 2: West Side, and then during a pandemic, a one bedroom
Speaker 2: opened up right here and it was no one here,
Speaker 2: but you know the one crazy on the street.
Speaker 8: I got this gorgeous one bedroom.
Speaker 1: Wow, good deal. Pandemic.
Speaker 8: Fine, they do keep raising it, so I think eventually
Speaker 8: I'm going to have.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, because this neighborhood is it's such a gorgeous apartment.
Speaker 1: Perhaps one of the worst neighborhoods. Yeah, true, that's why.
Speaker 1: That's why when people come and visit and they come
Speaker 1: right to the worst part. I don't want to tire Square.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly like, I kind of like that this is
Speaker 3: like how you enter because I want to keep people out.
Speaker 3: Anybody who doesn't look past Time Square, we don't want
Speaker 3: you here anymore. Man.
Speaker 1: That's exactly I live in Time Crazy.
Speaker 3: The l is hot out, the trash smells bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad you and the almost Yeah. So like that's
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's not doing so well because I remember when Midtown
Speaker 2: was super safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now it's I mean, it's still fake. Murray Hill,
Speaker 1: Murray Hill. That do you have the citizen app? No,
Speaker 1: don't do it. One call.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I lived in Murray Hill for eleven years up until
Speaker 3: the pandemic. I would look at the citizen app it
Speaker 3: was just like a trash fire, or somebody stove, or
Speaker 3: somebody got stuck in an elevator.
Speaker 1: Pandemic happened, rape at knife point.
Speaker 3: Once a week, whoa robbery at gunpoint to the point
Speaker 3: where my super this big guy lives across the hall.
Speaker 3: He was like, Chris, don't go out past eleven please.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, honestly, I always feel safe in New York.
Speaker 3: That was the only time I did it, But in
Speaker 3: this area, I wouldn't imagine feeling safe when I go
Speaker 3: out late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker 3: Literally all over from two am to fire your armor.
Speaker 3: You're the look in your eye, I know, it's like,
Speaker 3: mess with me, You're gonna regret.
Speaker 1: You're like the scary one.
Speaker 2: We're hiding.
Speaker 1: You're right with me here, I'm the one. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: the one you could pounce because I'm just like, what's
Speaker 1: that showing?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Have you ever had an incident in New York
Speaker 3: where like a guy freaked you out.
Speaker 2: During the pandemic, Like I was walking, it was so
Speaker 2: deserted around here and I was what my parents were
Speaker 2: staying in the city, and I was walking towards them
Speaker 2: and a guy through a glass bottle at and it
Speaker 2: just missed me by like six inches.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's terrible. That was pretty scary, holy fun.
Speaker 2: But then otherwise it's just like when you walk down
Speaker 2: eighth Am and you every other block is a guy
Speaker 2: like yelling yes and so I'm.
Speaker 3: Not scared, but I feel for that. It's just it's disheartening.
Speaker 3: He's a lot on your spirit and you're just.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, okay, I just got to pay attention. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: So back to dating, because you're actively dating in the city.
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in this.
Speaker 1: Have you had bad dates?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: What do you classize bad dates?
Speaker 3: Where the guy where you're like fuck that guy, Like
Speaker 3: so many people will write us and say and I've
Speaker 3: and I've certainly experienced this too, where they just go
Speaker 3: they they have a date that just kind of disheartened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, breaks the spirit. I think it is a good
Speaker 1: way to just say yeah and you're like fucking, I'm done. Like,
Speaker 1: but it seems like.
Speaker 2: I think again, because I'm approaching this in a different way.
Speaker 2: Than most women.
Speaker 3: I'm your goal is just to have a good time.
Speaker 8: And if someone's bad, it's a great content for me.
Speaker 1: It's like a win win. You also have a we're Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I went on to date with this guy who sucked,
Speaker 2: but I had such a great story the next right, well,
Speaker 2: the date was at let's say eight o'clock, seven forty.
Speaker 2: He's like, can we push it to nine? And I
Speaker 2: was like an hour pushed back twenty minutes. So then
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, but if it's later than nine,
Speaker 2: I'm canceling. And then he was like, okay, it's nine.
Speaker 2: So I get there at nine. He still wasn't there.
Speaker 2: He gets around nine thirty. No, not even there. Let's
Speaker 2: say nine fifteen, nine thirty.
Speaker 8: Right there, it shows up text you in advance to
Speaker 8: say fifteen.
Speaker 2: So then and I don't know why I sat there,
Speaker 2: but I did. And then content and.
Speaker 8: Then I was like why were you late? And he
Speaker 8: was like he buries.
Speaker 2: He was like a finance bro type guy, and he
Speaker 2: was like, I was I dig my crypto passwords in
Speaker 2: the park and he had to go dig them up?
Speaker 3: Are you rob? We gotta go to the park. We're
Speaker 3: gonna go to the park and start digging. Why are
Speaker 3: they on pieces of page? How high in crypto is
Speaker 3: that he's hiding them in the park?
Speaker 1: Really hard?
Speaker 2: I guess, really yeah, I guess, like you're in charge
Speaker 2: of your crypto passwords, Like there's no bank, there's no regulations,
Speaker 2: you're in charge.
Speaker 3: There's a billion dollars that will never be claimed because
Speaker 3: people forgot the words. A lot of the crypto people
Speaker 3: start turning up dead these yes, well, this guy his
Speaker 3: number of suitcases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he showed up late and then his fingernails
Speaker 2: dirty and I didn't look, but I mean he showed
Speaker 2: up in a suit.
Speaker 1: He said he had to dig physically dig dirt out
Speaker 1: of the way to dig. He had a up his
Speaker 1: crypto password like literally dig up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But also like if you're hiding them in the park,
Speaker 3: then why are you telling a random when you're just
Speaker 3: meeting on a date.
Speaker 1: Breach of security?
Speaker 8: Then like he ordered appetizers. It was just like a pub.
Speaker 1: It was like did you pick it or did he?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 2: I have like a pub that I always make for
Speaker 2: his dates because they have an upstairs that's always empty
Speaker 2: so that no one could RECOGNI. You know, so he's
Speaker 2: just been on dates where like a fan will like like,
Speaker 2: and I don't say who I am on a first day.
Speaker 2: I don't say I'm a comic because I don't want
Speaker 2: googling me or anything, you know.
Speaker 8: Cause that's weird. You can find out everything about me.
Speaker 1: Don't leave with comic if you Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, the eighteen year old waiter comes over and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, do you want anything to eat?
Speaker 1: Did you get his I should write he was just
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: But this this finance bro was like, oh, what are
Speaker 2: your I shell tea apps?
Speaker 1: I hate like that. It's so annoying.
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 1: What do you like? Shot? The I like a man
Speaker 1: who can read a menu, and some home.
Speaker 8: Like this is not a five starry.
Speaker 2: So then like eighteen year old boy was like, uh,
Speaker 2: I like the chicken fingers. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, not happening. And then he goes, well,
Speaker 2: what does the chef think is about?
Speaker 1: There's no chef, A bit irish in the back.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard, And then I was and the kid
Speaker 2: was like, I think he likes the finger chicken nuggets too,
Speaker 2: you know, And I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: needs to add wow.
Speaker 1: But as a comedian, You're like, yeah, baby, yeah.
Speaker 2: So then that night he texted me smart enough. He
Speaker 2: was like, I walk you home and I was smart enough.
Speaker 2: Don't ask me why, But I was like, no, that's
Speaker 2: because I have everything. I just told you, but usually
Speaker 2: i'm not. I don't care if a guy walks me home,
Speaker 2: you know. But he didn't want him to know where
Speaker 2: he lived for some reason.
Speaker 3: I don't, Yeah, you don't. He knows where how to
Speaker 3: dig holes quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then that night he said like, oh, I had
Speaker 2: such a great time, and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: me too. And I was planning on just like not
Speaker 2: facing him but letting it fade out. And the next
Speaker 2: morning he was like I miss you so much.
Speaker 1: When I miss miss you? Yes, And then.
Speaker 2: Later that day again with the I miss you twice
Speaker 2: in one day.
Speaker 1: I say that, like, did you respond?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: He was actually decent, like pretty good.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is like ugly man, like when
Speaker 3: you When he first said he missed you, what you say?
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it was like oh I had such a
Speaker 2: great time last night or something like that, like Jenner.
Speaker 2: And then I was kind of just like you know,
Speaker 2: And so then he kept texting throughout that day. So
Speaker 2: that night and actually during this time, I was still
Speaker 2: dating that ten Am gang bang guy.
Speaker 1: So I sent him.
Speaker 2: I sent him a screenshot and he was like, Robin,
Speaker 2: you got to end this, like this guy is like
Speaker 2: showing crazy.
Speaker 3: And Dad, I'm gang bing guy is the guy that
Speaker 3: you're like relying udgment.
Speaker 1: Was like, got end, So he had enough exit of
Speaker 1: evidence to weigh in.
Speaker 2: Then I just said to a screenshot of the conversation,
Speaker 2: I'm like because he was like, how was your date
Speaker 2: last night?
Speaker 1: Because and I was like, we get it. You love
Speaker 1: not monogamy.
Speaker 8: I know you have a day lying in the corner.
Speaker 1: We had a date.
Speaker 8: And then like the next day he had a date
Speaker 8: and I was like, this is terrible.
Speaker 1: Also like keep that from me. Yeah, be so kind.
Speaker 8: But part of their thing is they love to share.
Speaker 3: And that's when I was honesty rules, communications shout out.
Speaker 2: After doing on podcast, I was like, you know why
Speaker 2: this would never work because I don't like communication and.
Speaker 8: You're all about communications.
Speaker 2: We just we started the podcasting. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be called out of my ship. Don't talk to me,
Speaker 2: not any feelings.
Speaker 1: Let's just get along.
Speaker 2: Get along, can you get mad at me, get mad
Speaker 2: at me, and then we'll just talk move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, uh you fuck on the first date, have you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It depends, Like how do you like?
Speaker 3: The body is so brilliant because the body knows if
Speaker 3: you're trying before you even start talking.
Speaker 1: You can tell if you want to. Yeah, the body knows.
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, alcohol helps you.
Speaker 2: It does most drinking. I've never been on a first
Speaker 2: day where I'm not drink. It's very hard to.
Speaker 8: Actually think it'd be really like I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: I've never gonn to weird though, because I think if
Speaker 3: I started going out on dates, I probably wouldn't drink.
Speaker 1: I used to drink.
Speaker 3: I had a drink when I did stand up, and
Speaker 3: now I don't. I don't like when I headline I
Speaker 3: don't drink and then I'm like, how did I drink
Speaker 3: when I did stand up?
Speaker 1: That's wild? And I would always go on dates like
Speaker 1: to drinks. Yeah, and I don't know. It feels oh I.
Speaker 3: Need it, Yeah, I need it. Yeah, I mean what
Speaker 3: a part of you like? What does it do for
Speaker 3: you specifically?
Speaker 1: Like it's a very popular tactics obviously.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it just calms me like, I'm much more relaxed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even though I can be relaxed, like I could talk
Speaker 2: to anyone when I'm drinking, I could be a little
Speaker 2: more flirty.
Speaker 1: Like the flirty does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sex for the first time with a human
Speaker 2: is an awkward situation. Everyone's thinking, everyone's doing things. You know,
Speaker 2: if you have a drink here a little more relaxed.
Speaker 3: The problem with alcohol for me is that sometimes I
Speaker 3: think I have I'm having a better time than I'm
Speaker 3: having with a person, you know.
Speaker 1: Right that that is deceitful.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing it was like because I was like,
Speaker 3: I haven't drink in months, but I was like and
Speaker 3: I was just just I was just curious how it go. Honestly,
Speaker 3: no difference my life is like exactly like I'm having
Speaker 3: just as much fun as I would have had.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's like I think, like it's more like
Speaker 3: to me, it's more like a ritual. It's more like
Speaker 3: the ritual is the thing that you have to get
Speaker 3: out of because I also love the ritual of drinking.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, if I got out of it,
Speaker 3: would this like be okay? So we're not this is
Speaker 3: not an intervention. I'm just saying, like I think I
Speaker 3: think you probably would nail the date harder than you
Speaker 3: think you would, right, that's all right.
Speaker 2: I just think it's more And it's because I'm actually
Speaker 2: not a big drinker. But I mean I don't drink
Speaker 2: ever during shows and I actually I mean I'm just
Speaker 2: not a big drink.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like a date.
Speaker 8: It's just had so much more fun.
Speaker 1: Tips. Yeah, I literally hate dates and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: going on one.
Speaker 2: I actually like dates because I like the flirting because
Speaker 2: you seem like this Robin is not a very big
Speaker 2: like I'm not very not sexual that's the wrong word,
Speaker 2: but I'm just not.
Speaker 1: Where so on dates.
Speaker 2: It's not a character, but it's a part of me
Speaker 2: that I don't have in my everyday it's getting.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So it's a very different Robin than like most people
Speaker 2: get to experience.
Speaker 3: I would to see what's very shocking because it's very
Speaker 3: gang bang Robin, very like, very bold.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very sexual.
Speaker 3: Say sexual things like yeah, like with like a cherry stem,
Speaker 3: like what are happening?
Speaker 2: I mean very like I'm very flirting to.
Speaker 1: Touch them, yeah, touch their shoulder whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm very open, like giving them the green light for
Speaker 2: them to touch me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is also
Speaker 2: why I like my first date spot because like we're
Speaker 2: hidden upstairs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can just you know, you touch on
Speaker 3: the date, Like where does he touch you? Like your shoulder,
Speaker 3: your hands, like on a date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a.
Speaker 2: First thing I'm giving like the green light, which I
Speaker 2: do really easily, like I know how to flirt very well.
Speaker 2: Then it will be anywhere oh even that's hit yeah,
Speaker 2: or my butt or like it's very like.
Speaker 3: It's a different round him and you kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like you step into this side of yourself because.
Speaker 2: We all right, it's a part of me that I
Speaker 2: don't like give to everyone, but what I want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the guy usually the.
Speaker 2: Guy that he can I want to share that part
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 1: And that makes sense.
Speaker 3: What then dating is fun for you because you get
Speaker 3: to dance with that part of Yeah exactly. That's maybe
Speaker 3: then what people should do who don't find dating fun,
Speaker 3: regardless of how disappointing their date might be, if they
Speaker 3: go into it leaning into a side of themselves, into
Speaker 3: their gang bang side or whatever, then and yeah, put
Speaker 3: that gang bang mask on and and like just have
Speaker 3: the only goal on the date be to have fun.
Speaker 1: Leaning into that side yourself.
Speaker 2: I think you can't go and take away the pressure
Speaker 2: of what they're like and have more like put it
Speaker 2: on you to have fun. So if the guy sucks,
Speaker 2: but you're still having a good time, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's you're flirting, or you're drinking, or you're eating
Speaker 2: or whatever it is.
Speaker 8: You'll have a better time. If you're putting it on.
Speaker 2: The guy has to be great, you'll be disappointed. Well yeah,
Speaker 2: guys suck.
Speaker 3: Right, and lower expectations is going to pave the way
Speaker 3: for like surprising delights.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so ladies, put on your gang bang hats to
Speaker 3: lower your expectations.
Speaker 1: Guys, we fun.
Speaker 3: We gotta wrap up, but we did we want to
Speaker 3: do We do want to do this new segment with you, Robin.
Speaker 3: It's so I'll explain it to you, right, It's called
Speaker 3: rock Hard Tape, Rock car Rock. So Mike over there,
Speaker 3: he has without our knowledge, made a list of things
Speaker 3: that are tend to be polarizing aspects and you know, sex, dating, relationships,
Speaker 3: and this is so this is like debate style rules.
Speaker 3: We all have to pick hard yes or hard no.
Speaker 3: On how we feel about it, even if you feel
Speaker 3: about medium, if you have to lean more towards one
Speaker 3: side and go hard into it and defend why that
Speaker 3: is your.
Speaker 1: You know, to defend your heart easily.
Speaker 8: Like if you take two different sides, you could each convince.
Speaker 1: Me one line. Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think that anymore. Take well, then I guess
Speaker 1: you first. You gotta go first.
Speaker 5: There's a couple in here that have sort of been
Speaker 5: talked about already, but I think.
Speaker 1: Well, then don't get them off the rock, because.
Speaker 6: Because we need we can get we need a definitive
Speaker 6: answer on.
Speaker 1: These we've been touched on, but they have hard.
Speaker 5: So some of them are are like true blue sex related.
Speaker 5: A couple of them our relationship related. There's a few
Speaker 5: in here that are sort of things that we've done
Speaker 5: on this show specific.
Speaker 1: To us, just smattering, smattering.
Speaker 6: I have a list, we'll go, we'll go through them.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Robin's gonna be first, and she's persuaded.
Speaker 1: All right, you let us know.
Speaker 5: The first one here is polyamory.
Speaker 1: Okay, but this is why this is a problem or hard.
Speaker 2: There's for you, okay, for me, it's a no.
Speaker 1: Why Why is it a hard no?
Speaker 2: Because I'm jealous and I can't see my partner with
Speaker 2: another partner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for other people hard Yes, this is for
Speaker 3: you girls, so everyone else, but if everyone else is
Speaker 3: a hard guess? And how you to find my partner
Speaker 3: poor alone? Rock card tics, Oh my god, Christina. Polyamory
Speaker 3: is definitely a hard no for me because I it's
Speaker 3: I'm so overwhelmed so easily that beat the idea of
Speaker 3: even having a crush on two people at the same time.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get it. I wouldn't have time to take
Speaker 1: a ship. I know. I feel like we have to.
Speaker 6: Drop everyone.
Speaker 3: For me. So this is going to be across the
Speaker 3: board the guys, we dance is rock hard. No, let
Speaker 3: us know your millennials.
Speaker 1: Without letting us know your millennials. It's a rock hard
Speaker 1: no for me.
Speaker 3: But that's just because it's kind of like scientology, like
Speaker 3: I don't believe it's a real thing.
Speaker 8: Really, so you don't even believe it.
Speaker 1: For other guys, a lot and women just want to
Speaker 1: go with that. No, that's not true. I met I've
Speaker 1: met women that fall in love. You know, we want
Speaker 1: We've all known sluts for Love.
Speaker 2: Right, Wait, so you don't believe in scientology exists?
Speaker 1: I think the building is real. I don't believe in
Speaker 1: body thetans. No, I yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I'm being a little funny, but I
Speaker 3: mean there is a part of.
Speaker 1: Me that's like that. It's just like it's like Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: It's like couldn't exist, I suppose, but I've never seen it,
Speaker 3: and I would need to see it like actually working reality.
Speaker 3: Like like I've never and I've dated several people who
Speaker 3: supposedly engage in polyamory, and.
Speaker 1: I go, okay, there's just a lot of work. It
Speaker 1: just seems like this seems like a series of little lies.
Speaker 1: You're telling people that you're so.
Speaker 8: With his schedule's packed, it's overwhelming.
Speaker 2: He's dealing with this woman's emotions, his men, just women,
Speaker 2: and so like it's I'm like, this is so much.
Speaker 1: Why would you want someone to avoid therapy?
Speaker 3: I think, like, honestly, yeah, because as human beings, we
Speaker 3: need time where we're not doing anything during the day
Speaker 3: and has.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting lifestyle. But heart take now
Speaker 1: hard that's a hard no from Rock Free Rock card
Speaker 1: takes all right.
Speaker 6: I got a couple. We're here. Another favorite of the
Speaker 6: show Sex Addiction? Does it exist? Rock Card takes.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I love this again? Is you saying is it believe?
Speaker 1: The Unsafest Space three?
Speaker 8: Rock Card takes in you saying, do I have a
Speaker 8: sex addiction?
Speaker 1: Do I believe that your opinion doesn't exist?
Speaker 2: I do think it exists because I think there's some
Speaker 2: people who are could be addicted to watching porn and
Speaker 2: like need to watch it to get hard or like
Speaker 2: need it for the stimulation. I do think we're gonna
Speaker 2: find there is down the road, just like how alcohol is.
Speaker 1: Like what is it a disease? What do they say
Speaker 1: it's I say, do you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 1: Like in our community falls?
Speaker 2: Yes, no, but I do think it's like I do
Speaker 2: think you need to get help and something like sex addicts.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's an excuse for cheating, get it
Speaker 8: under control. But I do think there are people. I
Speaker 8: do think it is exists.
Speaker 3: Rock Card takes rock Cart.
Speaker 1: I think that I do believe that sex addiction is real.
Speaker 3: I must say that's a hard yes, only because you
Speaker 3: can be addicted to anything, and so it's the same
Speaker 3: fucking thing when you're addicted to a substance a person
Speaker 3: you're addicted to buying shoes. It's all the same energy
Speaker 3: of addiction. And of course something as much dopamine as
Speaker 3: it gives you as sex is going to be high
Speaker 3: on the possible addictions list.
Speaker 1: If you are prone to addiction, that's a rock card.
Speaker 1: Yes for me.
Speaker 6: Interesting, what about you?
Speaker 1: Correct? I mean this is no surprise. I've talked about
Speaker 1: Salona show. It's a rock card.
Speaker 5: No for me.
Speaker 3: Again, it's put it under polyamory and scientology because I.
Speaker 1: Feel like it's a thing.
Speaker 3: A man made up one day when he came home
Speaker 3: from fucking someone and he was like, oh no, my
Speaker 3: sex edition is I'm trull again. And I don't know
Speaker 3: who invented sex addiction, but I just know that it
Speaker 3: was a man, and it's a rock card.
Speaker 1: No for me. Everyone who's I've.
Speaker 3: Ever met who said they had a sex addiction was
Speaker 3: just a person who didn't want to settle down.
Speaker 1: And I just say that that's fine. Do you believe
Speaker 1: in a gambling addiction?
Speaker 3: I thought you said you believe in being gay, No
Speaker 3: gambling addiction.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I believe in the addiction as a concept.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's specifically sex addiction that I've done a
Speaker 3: lot of research on and talked to a lot of
Speaker 3: professionals about and come to the conclusion from that research
Speaker 3: that I do not think it's an actual thing. But yes,
Speaker 3: I believe in like you know, substance addiction, gambling addiction,
Speaker 3: and it was invented by a man.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, like he coined it before he discovered it.
Speaker 3: Doctor doctor Lawrence, doctor Lawrence Hatter, Cornell psychiatrist as is
Speaker 3: the true father of the modern sex addiction concept.
Speaker 1: I would loved and what year did he uh?
Speaker 3: Sex addiction began as a nineteen eighties product of late
Speaker 3: twentieth century culture.
Speaker 1: It's a book that shin.
Speaker 3: No twentieth century and has remained responsive to those tensions,
Speaker 3: including its most recent iteration, hyper sexual disorder.
Speaker 1: I need to.
Speaker 3: Read his biography to learn about how many he was
Speaker 3: He cheated, often.
Speaker 1: Fascinating.
Speaker 3: All right, one more, let's round it out, rock card
Speaker 3: takes you only want one more more?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, because we got a wrap y two love
Speaker 1: it all right?
Speaker 5: Well, I was hoping we would do a few more
Speaker 5: of these, but my last one, obviously is Randy Newman.
Speaker 1: Oh rock card This one's for you.
Speaker 6: Are you pro or con Randy Newman?
Speaker 1: Do you not know who Randy Newman is?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: R toy story? All right, that's the easiest one, you know, Yes,
Speaker 1: I believe he exists. He's a person.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: For the last one, then, Randy Newman?
Speaker 1: That that was also that is you taking too much
Speaker 1: liberties with it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I gave you Listen, you didn't put any special.
Speaker 3: Said in the realm of sextating in relationships.
Speaker 6: He's a sexy guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, rock Card on that tape.
Speaker 6: Last one, incorporating food into sex.
Speaker 8: Yes, did you not hear my butt cake store?
Speaker 5: But so I think the question is if was that
Speaker 5: that was like initiated by.
Speaker 2: Was my gift to them? But you know I've incorporated
Speaker 2: food before. Yeah, I'm always so do we like doing
Speaker 2: it or do we not like doing it? Rock Hard
Speaker 2: No for that answer.
Speaker 1: I have a dog.
Speaker 3: He's going to come in and lick stuff. I don't
Speaker 3: want that, nothing like chocolate, c nothing. And when I
Speaker 3: have sex, I don't laugh and.
Speaker 1: I don't eat nice.
Speaker 2: I'm very seriously the two things I promote and said.
Speaker 1: There's no smiling, there's no eating, there's just fucking that's
Speaker 1: so funny.
Speaker 3: So for me, it's also a rock card. No, But
Speaker 3: I also like Robin love eating. It's probably my favorite thing.
Speaker 3: I probably like eating more than sex. And so for me,
Speaker 3: I don't like the two things to fratenize. I just
Speaker 3: don't feel like like I feel like the sex would
Speaker 3: ruin the eating for me. And also I have this
Speaker 3: thing where if I'm full, I'm not horny.
Speaker 1: I'm either high or horny. I'm never both.
Speaker 2: At the scene sandwich guys, it's not like I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's even like a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of sugar rush. Like it doesn't. It's like, I like,
Speaker 1: but I had that, like Jessica Simpson, like whipped cream
Speaker 1: with straws. I tried it.
Speaker 3: I tried Mason had a sex whip cream. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think it was meant. I think it was
Speaker 3: like a makeup line, but I was using it as
Speaker 3: a sex cream.
Speaker 1: It was an it was like an edible body products thing.
Speaker 3: But it's like the same way as like when you
Speaker 3: go to Brookstone and get a show old massage.
Speaker 1: It's like, Jessica, we know what you're doing and I
Speaker 1: love it. She's basically interest masturbates like food.
Speaker 3: Play to tweens, and we're not giving her enough credit
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 1: It was the nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, I can't like I I if I
Speaker 3: I'm either yeah, I'm either horny or I want food.
Speaker 1: Like it's those two.
Speaker 2: Would never cross, not even so much the eating. I
Speaker 2: just like fun activities mixed in with that, right, So
Speaker 2: it's not even like.
Speaker 3: Coloring playing piano, and you know it's like someone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: let's do this and fun that's what you where you
Speaker 3: do your multime.
Speaker 1: So now people like, what do you do for fun?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I colored during sex, though sometimes I let my boyfriend
Speaker 3: make my ass into a birthday cake.
Speaker 1: That sounds fun as you being fun? Yeah, so like
Speaker 1: food or whatever? Yeah, yeah, I love it. Well that
Speaker 1: was where heart takes. I think it went swimming for
Speaker 1: our first one. I knew Robin make It depends on you. Well,
Speaker 1: ladies and gent Where can people see you where today?
Speaker 1: We should love for you? Be in the New York
Speaker 1: Comedy Festival.
Speaker 2: So that is at town Hall in November, but tickets
Speaker 2: around sale. I'm gonna be all over the country. Go
Speaker 2: to robinshawl dot com for tickets.
Speaker 1: Incredible. Thank you so much for coming back to the
Speaker 1: show We Love You back then and now. Yes, you
Speaker 1: guys are the best. I'm so excited to see you skyrocket.
Speaker 3: It so rarely happens to good and decent people, and
Speaker 3: we always talk to you, how excited we are to
Speaker 3: watch you just continue to grow and flourish.
Speaker 1: And it's been We love You.
Speaker 3: This has been Guys We Fuck, the anti seluctioning podcast.
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Speaker 3: and Christina Hutchinson. Editing and music coordination by Mike Coscarelli.
Speaker 3: Theme song by Rob Patterson and Jake.
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Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 7: This is my life now that I have a memory.
Speaker 4: My single friends keep buying shots at the bottle.
Speaker 1: I keep watching.
Speaker 4: Movies, wondering what you do and where you walk.
Speaker 1: We're going out as well Friday night.
Speaker 7: It's bad.
Speaker 1: That's not my Friday night anymore. I'm standing with you.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there sweatboats.
Speaker 4: On the living room floor, stare the hanging out and
Speaker 4: giving it the second look, I say home and cry
Speaker 4: out the nar And now that I got you, I've
Speaker 4: never been.
Speaker 1: Long lived in the morning.
Speaker 4: All right, and.
Speaker 7: Love your face is all out thinking of. But I'll
Speaker 7: take your laugh, which comes too shot.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing now that will marry. I want
Speaker 1: to give you up at whatever's on the scene.