Speaker 1: Thanks morning. Everybody is Steve j n V.
Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We got
Speaker 2: a special guest in.
Speaker 3: The building, to living legend himself.
Speaker 4: Juicy j Yo, Yo, what's good man?
Speaker 1: What's what's with the mess?
Speaker 3: You're promoting a book, your memoir, Juicy j I got
Speaker 3: a horror movie. I know, I know you love horror movies, but.
Speaker 4: Dan, hey man, I'm an advocate of mental health awareness.
Speaker 4: So I just worked as a master, you know, to
Speaker 4: show people like, you know, hey man, it's a it's
Speaker 4: a different side. You don't have to do nothing crazy
Speaker 4: or harm yourself or harm other people. You can always
Speaker 4: get some help called nine eight eight, any kind of
Speaker 4: hot line or reach out to an organization to you know, uh,
Speaker 4: take care of your mental health.
Speaker 5: And with the straight straight jackets, you're not mad at
Speaker 5: I'm a big mental health advocate too, So if you're
Speaker 5: doing that to raise mental mental health awareness, I ain't
Speaker 5: mad at it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need my assistant. She can take my mask off.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's hard to talk to this, Juicy Jason. Halloween
Speaker 3: came early, you know what I mean? There, there you go,
Speaker 3: There you go. Come on showing you ain't agent Juicy J.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: There you go, tresh line up, you know me haadline
Speaker 3: in tact, still thirty years old man saying still thirty
Speaker 3: years old.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 5: Thank you has an amazing book out right now called
Speaker 5: Chronicles of the Juice Man, a memoir.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 5: I got this book a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't even know Juicy J had
Speaker 5: a book coming out.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And from the first from the prologue, it's exciting.
Speaker 4: Thank you man.
Speaker 3: So many questions about the book, but I never knew.
Speaker 5: First things, first that they had flavored cocaine.
Speaker 3: Hey, watermelon cotton cans.
Speaker 1: You want to jump in that before we get watermelon flavor,
Speaker 1: cocaine with.
Speaker 3: Water would flavor with cocaine. I didn't know they had that.
Speaker 4: It was crazy. When I said, I was just just like,
Speaker 4: y'all was like, what the fucky put the flavors in there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna try it.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, what made you write
Speaker 4: the book?
Speaker 1: Let's start there.
Speaker 4: I always want to write a book, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I've been doing this for a long time
Speaker 4: you'll been seeing me. I'm been knowing how happy motherfuckers
Speaker 4: when y'all was interns and shit. So you know, so
Speaker 4: it's it's just it's just that time, you know. And
Speaker 4: it was very difficult when it was doing the book,
Speaker 4: me and Soorren Baker, he wrote it with me. My
Speaker 4: mom was she got diagnosed with cancer the time I
Speaker 4: was writing this book. So it was just like it was.
Speaker 4: It was very, very very I had a very hard
Speaker 4: time trying to finish it. But we you know, we
Speaker 4: broke through. We finished it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Rest in peace and here we are. So I always
Speaker 4: want to do this, you know, that'd.
Speaker 3: Be the most interesting thing about memoirs.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: You know your your life in the industry was great,
Speaker 5: but it's the stories before the industry. Yeah, that made
Speaker 5: that made the juicy j that even even more interesting.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, ye what made you?
Speaker 5: What made you want to name you a memoir after
Speaker 5: the first solo album?
Speaker 4: I mean it talks about it. I mean, it's chronicles, it's
Speaker 4: my life, you know what I'm saying, telling everything about
Speaker 4: what's going on. So I mean I just used it.
Speaker 4: It was perfect, you know what I'm saying, and it
Speaker 4: matches everything you know from my story and everything, so
Speaker 4: it's perfect fit. That's I looked at it.
Speaker 2: Was there anything that you had to take out? You
Speaker 2: know we've been reading, you know a lot of our
Speaker 2: OG's in this game. I've been writing books from Gez
Speaker 2: to fat Jo or the recent ones. Was anything that
Speaker 2: you had to take out because you were so brutally
Speaker 2: honest in this book?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a few things. Man, it's I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: say no names, but it was some some you know,
Speaker 4: I had some people coming to me about killing themself
Speaker 4: in the book. It's more than likely like three or
Speaker 4: four people I had put in the book, and then
Speaker 4: when they read it, it was like, you know, like
Speaker 4: the lawyers and stuff like, man, you can't put all
Speaker 4: this stuff in it. And then I talked to some
Speaker 4: of the people and they didn't want me to do that,
Speaker 4: so I took it out.
Speaker 5: And you never tried cocaine, No, contrary to popular belief.
Speaker 5: You know, you never tried cocaine. But you talk about
Speaker 5: why in the book. Can you touch on that a
Speaker 5: little bit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was when I was like a kid, I
Speaker 4: was watching TV and I've seen this basketball player named
Speaker 4: Lynn Byats that's right. And they said, oh, Lint Bias,
Speaker 4: he died on cocaine. And I was like, looking at you,
Speaker 4: like cocaine. I just you know, I didn't know what
Speaker 4: it was. I was like cocaine. I was like, I
Speaker 4: ain't never doing cocaine. Like when I seen that, that's
Speaker 4: stuck in my head. I said, if I feel I
Speaker 4: just felt like if I did it, I die. And
Speaker 4: then like soon as right after that, I you know,
Speaker 4: I would think I could have been I don't know,
Speaker 4: I could have been thirteen fourteen, And this is the
Speaker 4: older I got, you know, I started getting approached and myth.
Speaker 4: It's like I would see people in the street. They'd
Speaker 4: be like, hey, may want some coke, want this one that?
Speaker 4: And I was like, first thing came to my mind,
Speaker 4: like that's that stuff that Lin Bias took. I said,
Speaker 4: hell no, I ain't taking that ship no matter what
Speaker 4: ware coming. Yeah, fuck that.
Speaker 5: And you always seem to have like a sense of
Speaker 5: self awareness about yourself that other people around you didn't
Speaker 5: seem to have.
Speaker 3: How is that self awareness helped are hurt you in life?
Speaker 4: Uh? You said, help all hurt?
Speaker 3: Yeah, helped all hurt I don't really.
Speaker 4: Think it hurt me. It may I think it kept
Speaker 4: me to survive. I survived off that I would have.
Speaker 4: It's weird. I would have these two voices in my head.
Speaker 4: I had one voice be like, hey, hey, hey do
Speaker 4: this do that smashed that without the rubb or whatever.
Speaker 4: And then I have another voice be like, man, no,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. You know what happened easy,
Speaker 4: you know. I'm like I had like real shit. I
Speaker 4: had these voices in my head telling me like one
Speaker 4: one is telling me to go, one is telling me, nah,
Speaker 4: you might don't want to do that because you know
Speaker 4: this girl might be this, you might get it pregnant
Speaker 4: then and child support and all, you know, just all
Speaker 4: kind of crazy shit even just whatever, not just saying
Speaker 4: just with females, just with it in the street stuff.
Speaker 4: You know. It's times I you know, I talk about
Speaker 4: it in the book. I had to strap about to
Speaker 4: blow somebody ass. Then like one minute, something's telling me
Speaker 4: the gold and something's like, nah, I man, you might
Speaker 4: don't want to do that because this person, you know,
Speaker 4: he might snitch on you. Can you trust this nigga
Speaker 4: you with? You know what I'm saying, so stuff like that, man,
Speaker 4: And it's good that that happened like that because I'm
Speaker 4: here today.
Speaker 5: Because the reason I say the self awareness hurt is
Speaker 5: because sometimes you might be too critical on yourself.
Speaker 3: I see that throughout the book, like yeah, whether it's about.
Speaker 5: Oh three six music is whack, And I'm like, I
Speaker 5: don't remember that time, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: like just stuff like that, like you might have been
Speaker 5: a little too hard on yourself.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm very hard on myself, you know, right, I'm
Speaker 4: very hard on myself. I didn't say it was whack.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I think I said that it didn't
Speaker 4: sound right at the time when we was in LA
Speaker 4: because we was lost in it, you know, we was
Speaker 4: lost in the sauce. We didn't. I mean, I felt
Speaker 4: like when I was in LA for so long, I
Speaker 4: just you know, I lost my taste of sound and
Speaker 4: music and what the what the wave was and everything.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm usually on top of
Speaker 4: that and never never fell off of that. But when
Speaker 4: I was in La party and kicking and drinking so
Speaker 4: much and popping peels, I lost it all. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm doing music that was I was stuck you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You know, like some people move forward.
Speaker 4: I was I was stuck in like two thousand and
Speaker 4: five somewhere are two thousand and three. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I was stuck in that era. And then
Speaker 4: when it was two thousand and eight, music was totally different.
Speaker 1: What got you what you got? What you got you
Speaker 1: out of that that slump.
Speaker 4: I got the hell out of LA and I moved
Speaker 4: back to Mives, you know what I'm saying. Like immediately
Speaker 4: I sold my house like I wasna getting fuck out
Speaker 4: of everybody like you leaving, man, I'm gone, bro, Like,
Speaker 4: if I stay here, man, I'm gonna be fucked up.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kill myself because I was doing so much
Speaker 4: drugs and Viking and uh shit, after all all kind
Speaker 4: of shit, bro. Had I had a medicine cabinet full
Speaker 4: of shit, Like you could have came. I could have
Speaker 4: prescribed you some shit, bro, because I had so many people,
Speaker 4: you know, doctors, Like you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: never get my shit up the street, and I never
Speaker 4: fuck with that street shit. I always get my shit
Speaker 4: straight from the doctors, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I had these colored wacky doctors. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They would give me all kind of shit. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Whatever I want to give me a hundred,
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars, they'd be like, what you want?
Speaker 5: The funniest part of that story, I mean there's always
Speaker 5: humor and everything, right, Yeah, so you talk about how
Speaker 5: the girl you told your girlfriend at the time to
Speaker 5: come pick you up, yeah, because you might kill yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then it's like two sentences later, so I broke
Speaker 5: up with that girl and I moved.
Speaker 3: Yeah she came to your age.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, for real, she did. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I appreciate it, you know, thank you. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But I just I was to
Speaker 4: the point where I just needed I needed to get out. So,
Speaker 4: you know, I had a lot of stress and a
Speaker 4: lot of pressure. I was just pressured. But I was stuck,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I'm so used to
Speaker 4: making great music with the group and everything was moving
Speaker 4: forward and everything was falling apart. So I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, I was I was really depressed, but I
Speaker 4: was drinking, crying. It was just like it was I
Speaker 4: was just hurt. Man you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: People think that because you was having the most success.
Speaker 5: You know, y'all, I just won the Oscar, Yeah, the
Speaker 5: MTV show.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, nobody would think you would just depressed. Yeah.
Speaker 4: People when they would see me, they would see me drinking.
Speaker 4: But I was drinking to escape, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was really trying to get away from the pain
Speaker 4: I had that was going on with me. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Even y'all, y'all probably seen me during
Speaker 4: that time or you know, just around because we was partying.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was running everybody. Yeah, I was smiling, drinking,
Speaker 4: but like, deep down, I was not feeling too good. Man.
Speaker 4: I was really fucked up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I refuse to believe man, that you ever wore
Speaker 3: two rubbers. I don't know why people be telling that,
Speaker 3: goddamn like.
Speaker 4: I did. You can't put on two rubbers, but she
Speaker 4: can't as I did. I don't believe I did.
Speaker 3: I don't believe you. I did believe that. Well, man,
Speaker 3: that's when did you stop? Then?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: When did you stop?
Speaker 4: I mean when I when I settled down, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, you know, I said, all right, you
Speaker 4: know the rubbers. You know, when I settle down with
Speaker 4: you know one girl. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was. I was going crazy, bro,
Speaker 4: I was two three girls a night. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But you did this in high school. You wrote
Speaker 3: this record in high school?
Speaker 4: What was the record of slave? Before sla was another one,
Speaker 4: Don't be Yeah, Yeah, Don't be Scared put the rub
Speaker 4: on the head. You know what after Don't Be Well,
Speaker 4: I had a situation, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: was with this chick. Yeah, and then I got you know, sizzled,
Speaker 4: And then I had wrote this song called Don't Be
Speaker 4: Scared with the rub on the head for rubber, you know,
Speaker 4: like safe sex. But it was a hit in the
Speaker 4: hood because it was walking around in the club. I
Speaker 4: can say club because I wasn't really going in the
Speaker 4: clubs like that, but I would see niggas in the
Speaker 4: street and like people like playing it in their cars.
Speaker 4: Don't be scared put a rubber on their head. It
Speaker 4: was just a chance.
Speaker 2: So you would never even scared to talk about the
Speaker 2: STDs in this book either.
Speaker 1: Nah, fuck it.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, It's real. A lot of motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: I he didn't get burnt before DJ.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I ain't never fither promise to God, never had grace
Speaker 2: of God. Now I want you said you been back
Speaker 2: to Memphis, right? What the Memphis mean to you? You know,
Speaker 2: recently I did a call show Memphis and I see
Speaker 2: how much Memphis supports Memphis to talk about why you
Speaker 2: left Memphis and then why you thought you had to
Speaker 2: come back because a lot of people say they have
Speaker 2: to leave Memphis because a lot of times the hood
Speaker 2: takes them out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to come back to get my mind right.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I just wentn't grounded. I
Speaker 4: had been in l A too long, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It took me over the music. My music
Speaker 4: would sound different. I was moving different. I was doing
Speaker 4: a lot of crazy drugs. And so I went straight
Speaker 4: back to Memphis and I just went back to the hood,
Speaker 4: out with my niggas and chilled, and you know, I
Speaker 4: got my vibes back. I understood what you know, My
Speaker 4: grounds were my roots, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, all right, We'll cool. I can
Speaker 4: go anywhere in the world. I never lose my sound again.
Speaker 5: I didn't know you and Project Pat was actually brothers,
Speaker 5: and I didn't know Paul was Lord infamous uncle.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Does it make it harder easier working with family?
Speaker 4: No? No, No, that's cool. It's everything. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm glad I worked with my family, man,
Speaker 4: because my brother is one of the persons that that
Speaker 4: brought me out of this shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was in La. He would come in there, I'd
Speaker 4: be laid out on some lean. He'd be like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck y'all doing? Y'all niggas ain't hot. No mold
Speaker 4: people tell me that. You'll be like, what nigga, what
Speaker 4: you're saying? You here what I said, y'all ain't hot.
Speaker 4: I'm in the clubs, nigga. You niggas outre in La
Speaker 4: high and shit. You know what I'm saying, ain't playing
Speaker 4: though three six Mafia in the clubs. No more that
Speaker 4: shit done. It's new niggas out here. Man, y'all be said.
Speaker 4: May y'all beats on you sound the same? May ain't
Speaker 4: got no y'all put that hand base on, y'all be said, Man, listen,
Speaker 4: y'all listen to this bass. Listen, y'all bass. You know
Speaker 4: he's playing. I think he was playing some drummer boy stuff.
Speaker 4: You listen to this nigga based Listen to y'all base
Speaker 4: y'all base eighted. And I was like, you're right. I
Speaker 4: mean he told the truth. Man, that's what you need.
Speaker 4: I mean like, I don't need no yes man. I
Speaker 4: don't like yes man around me. I like niggas tell
Speaker 4: me if I'm doing something crazy. I would always tell
Speaker 4: people in the group. Man, look if I one time
Speaker 4: picked up Lord Defamus, right, I took him to the
Speaker 4: try to take him to the rehab. He didn't want
Speaker 4: to do it. We were riding around the neighborhood for
Speaker 4: almost out and half. I'm trying to get this nigga, bro,
Speaker 4: you need some help. You need some help. He's like, no, man,
Speaker 4: I'm cool. And we're talking and I told him, I said,
Speaker 4: we look, man, look, I'm just looking at you for
Speaker 4: as a as a friend. Brother. I love you. I
Speaker 4: don't want nothing to happen to you. And I said,
Speaker 4: and if you see something I'm doing, please tell me,
Speaker 4: don't yes man, me, my, nigga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm be like, yeah, used to go. You see me
Speaker 4: doing anything crazy, drugs or with the wrong crazy bitch
Speaker 4: and you think I'm with a with a you know,
Speaker 4: some skizer or something. I'm about to get robbed or whatever.
Speaker 4: You feel that that ain't right? Please tell me. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I tell Paul, anybody in my
Speaker 4: group or anybody around me, like don't don't yes, man me, man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. You know, check me, nigga.
Speaker 4: You see me doing something crazy because I want to live.
Speaker 4: I want to go to jail or do some stupid shit,
Speaker 4: you know for this, I maan, I am what's.
Speaker 5: Taught you more about life being in the industry or
Speaker 5: the life you lived before the injury?
Speaker 4: I said the life I lived before the industry because
Speaker 4: if I if I didn't go through all the stuff,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying in North Memphis, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be where I am today. No facts I was gonna ask.
Speaker 2: You know, there was one time they used to say
Speaker 2: that that the music that you guys put out was the.
Speaker 1: Monic and that was like that the thing. How bad
Speaker 1: did that affect y'all.
Speaker 4: Man to me the musical, I mean, I'm a church nigga, man,
Speaker 4: So I mean I looked at the ship like, you know, like,
Speaker 4: y'all nigga ain't no devilation. You ain't nobody fucking you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, worship no devil touching a Weiji
Speaker 4: board or whatever fuck y'all think it is. Nah, I
Speaker 4: just looked at it like, hey, man, it is what
Speaker 4: it is. But we I felt like we had to
Speaker 4: clean the name up. So we changed the name of
Speaker 4: three six of My Feet because I felt like it
Speaker 4: just because it was everybody was scared. REGULATED was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know. We might want
Speaker 4: to say, we might don't. So it was, you know what,
Speaker 4: him man, We changed the name up, and then things
Speaker 4: started coming together, you know.
Speaker 5: Even saying the book, you know that the three six
Speaker 5: Mafia thing, the devil worst but thing was was kind
Speaker 5: of a gimmick.
Speaker 4: That's what I felt, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: didn't see nobody works with the devil. So I just
Speaker 4: looked at it like a gimmick, you know. I didn't
Speaker 4: look at it like it was really worshman. The devil,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But I mean, like, Memphis
Speaker 4: was a dark city, so it was a dark time.
Speaker 4: So you know, Triple six MAFI was perfect for that
Speaker 4: at the time, you know what I'm saying, because mephis
Speaker 4: is still dark. But it was like just it's crazy
Speaker 4: and not and back then, but you know that's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I was coming from that, so it was cool.
Speaker 4: But then like later on, we started making you know,
Speaker 4: more music, and you know, a couple more I don't
Speaker 4: think we brought this out. I'll called the end. We
Speaker 4: had changed everything went from Triple six to three six
Speaker 4: and it was better, you know, our sound had we
Speaker 4: stepped that game up on the sound. We had a
Speaker 4: couple of records on there that was a little bit
Speaker 4: more radio friendly. Nobody wanted to play I should on radio,
Speaker 4: so we had a couple of records on that radio friendly.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, you know, it's just about growth. You know,
Speaker 4: I was going to.
Speaker 2: Ask how difficult was that coming up? You know, because
Speaker 2: the sound was different, it was a sound that we
Speaker 2: haven't heard before. How difficult was it breaking into different
Speaker 2: markets outside of Memphis?
Speaker 4: And we didn't give a fuck. We just did what
Speaker 4: we did. You know, people caught on you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. We we you know, we just experimented with
Speaker 4: a lot of things. Man. We me and Paul was
Speaker 4: one of the most greatest producers of all times. I mean, man,
Speaker 4: we would experiment. I can't. I don't want to give
Speaker 4: all my formula away, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 4: gotta you know, read the book and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: pay for that. But but we we experiment with a
Speaker 4: lot of different things. Man, we we We are a
Speaker 4: real artist, you know what I'm saying. We just niggas
Speaker 4: is walking in there and just make a beat. We
Speaker 4: we put it bringing, We bring the pain. You know,
Speaker 4: you might walk in our study. You might see a
Speaker 4: whole fucking orchestra in that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And like we just had our minds. Was was just
Speaker 4: bigger than just making a couple of beats and that
Speaker 4: was it. Like I had to ask you to one hundred.
Speaker 4: I would make beats on that, but then I would
Speaker 4: add extra shit to it. Like I can't tell you
Speaker 4: how I did it, but you know it's a secret
Speaker 4: how how we made our music.
Speaker 3: Well, the formula to me was Memphis.
Speaker 4: It was myth.
Speaker 5: But that's what I love about the book too. How
Speaker 5: you detail Memphis music history?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, everything, everything, everything, I sound everything came
Speaker 4: from the city, you know what I'm saying. But just
Speaker 4: the way we made our beats, we had like a
Speaker 4: certain kind of formula. We made our beats like you know,
Speaker 4: some people make they beat certain ways, some people make
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We had our way. We
Speaker 4: made our beats because they're like, I ytata make y'all
Speaker 4: bease sile like this, I ytta make y'all kicks out
Speaker 4: like I gotta make y'all you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: snare sounding like that. So we was very We made
Speaker 4: our own We created our own snares, We created our
Speaker 4: own kicks. You see what I'm saying. We didn't get
Speaker 4: our kicked from somebody else. We created it.
Speaker 2: Now, you talk about the drug use in the book,
Speaker 2: and you know you just mentioned it. Now, what got
Speaker 2: you to slow down on.
Speaker 1: The drug use?
Speaker 2: Was it the birth of your kids? Was it mom
Speaker 2: Duke's Was it not in the zone? What got you
Speaker 2: out of that?
Speaker 3: God called that time out?
Speaker 4: Yeah it was it was. It was getting crazy. I
Speaker 4: remember I was at a show in Atlanta, and I
Speaker 4: was coming from Atlanta. I was doing a lot of niggs.
Speaker 4: I was drinking at Bombay. Man. I was just like
Speaker 4: really really fucked up, man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like slumped over in the car and my body God
Speaker 4: was like hit me like this, hey man, you take it.
Speaker 4: He just whished out of my ear.
Speaker 1: Take it.
Speaker 4: He's on the drugs. Man, You're looking bad man, you know.
Speaker 4: And I was on the the ride home, I just
Speaker 4: had tears in my eyes. I was just thinking about
Speaker 4: three six miles here, how can we get this group
Speaker 4: back together and we could figure shit out, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And so you know, that was just
Speaker 4: one incident. And then I did a show in New
Speaker 4: York and I had left my xen X in the room,
Speaker 4: and boy, see I didn't I didn't know the power.
Speaker 4: For the power of xen X, you got to take
Speaker 4: them jumps every day, if you like, miss a couple
Speaker 4: of days, and you started getting these body these crazy
Speaker 4: body aches talking like this shit is like, man, I
Speaker 4: was like scratching, I was like tweaking. I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I said, I don't feel right telling Ray. I was
Speaker 4: like man, I don't feel good. Man. I didn't take
Speaker 4: my Zans and shit, I left him in the room
Speaker 4: and we did the show and I was sweating on stage,
Speaker 4: and man, it was just like crucial. So then I
Speaker 4: remember we went to Atlanta kind of just kind of
Speaker 4: moving forward, cause we were flying all over the places
Speaker 4: when we went to Atlanta. Because when I got back
Speaker 4: to the room, I took the Zaan, so I was cool.
Speaker 4: I was like Jesus fu. So then I went we
Speaker 4: went to Atlanta and I made a mistake when left
Speaker 4: the Zans in the room again and we did to
Speaker 4: do the show. I just made it. At that day, man,
Speaker 4: I was really feeling really down. Bro. I was like
Speaker 4: just like slumped over and I was like, man, I'm
Speaker 4: not feeling good man. And I was outside the club
Speaker 4: and I was telling Mike will I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I left my Zans in the fucking room hotel room.
Speaker 4: He said, oh, man, I know you. I know you're
Speaker 4: going through it. And after that, I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I can't do this shit no more. And my manager,
Speaker 4: my cousin took me to a doctor and a doctor
Speaker 4: told me how to get off the X.
Speaker 1: Did you have to go to rehab or was it
Speaker 1: something that.
Speaker 4: He gave you. Oh? No, Well, he just told me
Speaker 4: I was taking a whole one. He said, take a
Speaker 4: half of it. He said, take a half and you'll
Speaker 4: gradually just get off of it. That's all really. So
Speaker 4: I just started taking half and I just gradually just
Speaker 4: half a quarter tenth and yeah, and I got off
Speaker 4: of it, you know what I'm saying. And right today,
Speaker 4: I mean I'm cool. And it don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: It's times I've been on the plane. I might take
Speaker 4: ax I'm on an airplane, but I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 4: addicted like that. You know what I'm saying. I actually
Speaker 4: really need them, they prescribed to me. I actually I
Speaker 4: really really need them. But I don't take them like
Speaker 4: I used to take them. I used to be like
Speaker 4: just taking them, taking them drinking. I can ah, fuck it,
Speaker 4: sip some lean fugget, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: remember I was in fucking Toronto. I was sipping lean,
Speaker 4: taking x X, and I just felt like my body
Speaker 4: was just slowing down. I was like, oh, and then
Speaker 4: like that voice hit me in the head, like put
Speaker 4: that damn leane out. And then one boy said, ma,
Speaker 4: you're gonna put that lane. That's a lot of lane,
Speaker 4: that's a good lane. Then the other voice like, now
Speaker 4: put a leane out and not to pull the shit out,
Speaker 4: and said, fuck it, I want to leave.
Speaker 2: Man, and your peers can't come up to you and
Speaker 2: talk to you about it, because I mean, in the industry,
Speaker 2: there's so many people that that have been on it,
Speaker 2: got off of it, have been on it. We've seen
Speaker 2: lose so many people.
Speaker 1: Let any of your.
Speaker 2: Pairts say, let me talk to you juice and my parents,
Speaker 2: your peers, anybody else in the industry.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nobody
Speaker 4: And nobody said anything to me but my family, the
Speaker 4: people that was close to me, like my manager and
Speaker 4: uh my bodyguards and stuff. People from Memphis.
Speaker 5: Well, you had a lot of people close to you
Speaker 5: that didn't get the opportunity to you know, shake shake
Speaker 5: it like you did. You know, you think of that
Speaker 5: mac Miller's and you know the gangster boze, God blessed
Speaker 5: it dead. Do you think there was a point you
Speaker 5: wish you could have, like I don't know, intervened with
Speaker 5: them or you couldn't help them because you couldn'tven help
Speaker 5: yourself at the time.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, back in the day when three since
Speaker 4: my we first started, I wasn't really doing a lot
Speaker 4: of drugs like everybody else. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I might little lean here, smoke a little taste of
Speaker 4: weed there. You know, I was a heavy drinker, but
Speaker 4: I didn't do drugs like they did drugs. They was
Speaker 4: really going hard with the cocaine. And you know, Lord
Speaker 4: was on a little hair on here and there. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It was very, very very serious.
Speaker 4: So my situation was I was trying to get everybody
Speaker 4: off not so much. I was trying to get everybody
Speaker 4: off of the I didn't really I really didn't give
Speaker 4: a fuck about the syrup and the peels because I
Speaker 4: feel like that really wasn't the problem. The problem I
Speaker 4: saw was was a cocaine Because when they do cocaine,
Speaker 4: when they come up those withdrawals, they go crazy. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It makes you mad, makes you
Speaker 4: like you're a tough guy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Nigga would hit their cocaine board. They would fucking tear
Speaker 4: shit up. Paul, I'm going to club. They're the club
Speaker 4: up from you know what, I'm saying, motherfucker would throw man,
Speaker 4: I've seen Paul throw a chat the bather bucker shoot
Speaker 4: a strap. You know what I'm saying, Like, motherfucker go crazy.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Niggas was just turned up
Speaker 4: like that. And I was only, you know, like half
Speaker 4: sober nigga. I mean half sober, like I might have
Speaker 4: coll a couple of drinks or something. But I'm still saying,
Speaker 4: so I'm like holding Paul back lord Coop, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Coop was like a Coop was crazy
Speaker 4: as hell, man like rest in peace, but he would
Speaker 4: do anything like Coops. The nigga was just like if
Speaker 4: you just say, man, let's just blow up a building,
Speaker 4: he would. He'd be like all foy. He was crazy
Speaker 4: like that, you know. And Crunchy Black. Same what Crunchy
Speaker 4: Black was. Every week he was going to jail. He
Speaker 4: just fight shootouts, all kind of shit. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, real shit. So I was just trying to
Speaker 4: I was not. I wasn't not. I wasn't as high
Speaker 4: as them. I was just trying to get that cocaine
Speaker 4: out the way because I just every time that cocaine
Speaker 4: was in the in the in the building, the ship
Speaker 4: would go down if the pills was cool. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I don't. I didn't see nothing going
Speaker 4: drastic with the pills, but the cocaine was crazy. Then
Speaker 4: when I seen Lord on the heron, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is getting a little different. Now, it's getting extra serious.
Speaker 4: And that's when he just kind of listened. He pretty
Speaker 4: much left the group on his own.
Speaker 3: Almost the misreading the book. I thought there was one
Speaker 3: point Lord didn't do drugs.
Speaker 4: Right, and at a point he didn't, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. At the point he didn't, he just smoked
Speaker 4: a little weed and then he just, you know, things
Speaker 4: start going up, you know what I'm saying. The more
Speaker 4: money was start getting excuse me, things started going up,
Speaker 4: and I was just trying the man. I was the
Speaker 4: main dude, just trying to hold you know, everybody back
Speaker 4: from doing that. I called the White Devil, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it was really fucking shit up,
Speaker 4: and it was it was destroying the group, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then you know, things advanced. We
Speaker 4: won an Oscar and then that was it. You know,
Speaker 4: we went Hollywood, and.
Speaker 2: Shit, how difficult was it to talk back to the
Speaker 2: members during that time when everybody went their own ways
Speaker 2: and everybody was having their own success. How difficult was
Speaker 2: it to say, you know what, let's put the group
Speaker 2: in front of everything else.
Speaker 4: It was very difficult, man, because they didn't listen to me.
Speaker 4: They just laugh at me that I was talking.
Speaker 1: Shit, who's the most difficult to talk to?
Speaker 3: Lord?
Speaker 4: That us man rest in peace. He was a cold
Speaker 4: motherfucker man, like he was the man man he was.
Speaker 4: It was hard to deal with. My member was in
Speaker 4: the car and the nigga had like we got pulled over, right,
Speaker 4: they didn't find nothing in the car. And then I
Speaker 4: looked into his part and I said, nigga, I said, man,
Speaker 4: you better be glad they didn't check your motherfucker pocket
Speaker 4: because his pocket, this nigga had some xen x. He
Speaker 4: had a lot of shit in his part, like it's
Speaker 4: like it's little like a little button down, you know,
Speaker 4: had like the side pocket, his side pocket. He had
Speaker 4: so much. He said, oh shit, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 4: I forgot to hide that. I was like, oh after
Speaker 4: that day, that was the day I said I can't
Speaker 4: ride with you niggas. I would have got my own transportation.
Speaker 4: I would to get this band we was riding in
Speaker 4: like the same bands. Me and Paul used to drive
Speaker 4: the bands and then we start hiring drivers. But that
Speaker 4: day when he said he forgot to hide that drug,
Speaker 4: the heron and the coke and whatever else he had
Speaker 4: in that little side pocket, I was like, fuck this,
Speaker 4: I said. Then I started trying to I had to
Speaker 4: separate myself because I was like, man, I can't make
Speaker 4: no money in jail. Bro, I ain't trying to go
Speaker 4: to motherfucking jail. My nigga, Like, we're making money, we
Speaker 4: having success. Why the fuck I want to get pulled
Speaker 4: over for some you know, some cocaine or some shit
Speaker 4: that that wouldn't even mine and go to jail for it.
Speaker 4: I said, it's not smart. I said, he didn't. He
Speaker 4: didn't listen to me at I'll crutch it with listen
Speaker 4: sometimes very coops the nigga no but uh and gainst
Speaker 4: the boot. She would listen to me, though she would.
Speaker 4: I had to calm her down a lot. A lot
Speaker 4: of times she hit some coke. She go crazy. Gamest
Speaker 4: the boot was thanks to real game. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying she'll fight an whatever she cuts the nigga
Speaker 4: ass out. But anyway, I had to she listened to
Speaker 4: me a lot. But it was difficult with Lord of
Speaker 4: the Man.
Speaker 5: When you was writing the dedications because I feel like
Speaker 5: the dedications are every everybody that you lost, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: when you write that, How did that feel the just
Speaker 5: to have to write that dedication?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad, man, It's crazy, bro, Like I should
Speaker 4: have teared every other day. Man, think about that shit.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's been a It's been
Speaker 4: a great painful journey. You know what I mean, great
Speaker 4: painful journey.
Speaker 5: Your mother, Lord, Infamous, coupstera Gangster, Boo Clinton, Nigga Creep,
Speaker 5: Brady and Cardi k rock Burn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I always always when I ask when I heard stories about,
Speaker 2: you know, drug use like that, like, do you remember
Speaker 2: who introduced you to it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Because as a kid or growing up, I remember who
Speaker 2: introduced me to my favorite car, my favorite sports team,
Speaker 2: my favorite rapper, my favorite musician. Do you remember the
Speaker 2: time that somebody introduced you to that drug? And what
Speaker 2: what made you say? You know what, I'm gonna try it.
Speaker 4: Trying to think the XENX who introduced me. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, like at at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: like lord lord and uh, punching them. They did a
Speaker 4: lot of xanaxy stuff, so you know, it.
Speaker 1: Was around already.
Speaker 4: And I used to when I used to was flying
Speaker 4: a lot, and I was talking to this doctor met
Speaker 4: in Hollywood. I was like, man, flying and ship, I
Speaker 4: probably need something to calm myself down. Or somebody said
Speaker 4: I got some funny and he just gave me the
Speaker 4: xen X, you know what I'm saying. So it kind
Speaker 4: of went from a little conversation. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I know, you know, crunching them take xan x, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it went from there, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. I never I never really seen
Speaker 4: them go crazy like off the chain on some some
Speaker 4: pills or even some lean you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was kind of sleepy, kind of you know, slum
Speaker 4: or whatever. But even that was like the cocaine. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't do no because I felt like the cocaine was
Speaker 4: more like the raised drug. So I was like, I
Speaker 4: I ain't never had to tell these niggas to slow
Speaker 4: down on the lean of stuff. Like that, So I
Speaker 4: guess this might be cool to you know, Papa Zana
Speaker 4: or something. And then it just gradually, you know, definitely me.
Speaker 4: She feel good. So it gradually just kind of slowly
Speaker 4: but surely took me over, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then Alanine already knew bou Lane. I mean I
Speaker 4: sip Lane had sip Ling before, so you know I
Speaker 4: had you know, I had the hook on the act.
Speaker 4: I had so much act man. They I was the
Speaker 4: act man man, I was acting. I still got something.
Speaker 3: Yes, what is ACT activists? Oh ship, Yeah, but then
Speaker 3: they just continued it do something?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they haady banned. I still got something.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is ACT activists?
Speaker 1: Google it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, google it now.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 5: I love the book, you know, don't try. I love
Speaker 5: how in the book you pay homed to Memphis music.
Speaker 5: But you talk a lot about Stax Records. Yes, talk
Speaker 5: about how you were influenced by that, by the story
Speaker 5: of sa.
Speaker 4: Al Bail Jim Stewart, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 4: he had a sister too that was involved in Stacks.
Speaker 4: I can't remember her name. She was her last name
Speaker 4: of Stewart too. Man, I was just influenced by that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Isaac Hayes, Rufus Thomas, Man,
Speaker 4: you damn man. They had the ten Pre's and it
Speaker 4: was it was the biggest record Labelhen it's out and
Speaker 4: you know when I was coming up, you know, it
Speaker 4: was over with. But they had tore down the building.
Speaker 4: I remember it was on the news in the newspaper.
Speaker 4: They tore down the Stacks building. I was like, why
Speaker 4: the fuck would they do that? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I just start with some racist shit. I was like
Speaker 4: many folks on as shit out here. Man. They just
Speaker 4: told the motherfucking building down, like that's a historic place,
Speaker 4: and they tore it down and they eventually built it
Speaker 4: back up. But I was like, man, we're gonna we're
Speaker 4: gonna be like Stacks, and I'm a following the footsteps
Speaker 4: of Albil al Bell was like he was running Stacks
Speaker 4: the black dude, And I got the book. I read
Speaker 4: like I read that book like back and forth and
Speaker 4: back and forth because I was so interested how to
Speaker 4: hide this nigga from you know, he was actually from
Speaker 4: he was from d c our Bell was from DC
Speaker 4: and I was just he moved to Mimpus and he
Speaker 4: started running stacks. So I was just so interested that,
Speaker 4: like how this man run a whole record label. So
Speaker 4: I was just reading about what he did, and I
Speaker 4: took I talked about my book everything that he did.
Speaker 4: I did a lot of stuff, you know, in my life,
Speaker 4: my career to follow him his footsteps in their work,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's that was the
Speaker 4: big influence that I had.
Speaker 5: I don't want to get was too much away from
Speaker 5: the book, But like when I read about the issues
Speaker 5: you had with your father, right and and and some
Speaker 5: of your upbringing, and then you know, now you got
Speaker 5: two children. Yeah, do you feel like you're you've done
Speaker 5: a good job of breaking some of those generational curses?
Speaker 4: I think I wouldn't. I wouldn't call it a curse.
Speaker 4: I just called it. I just learned something from it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I learned a lot from it.
Speaker 4: I think I think I'm I'm good man. I'm good
Speaker 4: with my kids. Man, Like if the one cause my
Speaker 4: mom and my dad, I wouldn't probably probably be some
Speaker 4: mad man, you know what I mean? Just being real.
Speaker 4: They took care of me. I love them. They took
Speaker 4: care of me. Man, they made sure we was straight
Speaker 4: regardless of I love small. I call it small family
Speaker 4: issues because it wasn't nothing like big, big, big, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I never was like if my
Speaker 4: family nothing like that. I mean, I've been there for
Speaker 4: them day one. I'm still there for them, like you
Speaker 4: might talk about in my book. Like every time they
Speaker 4: called me, I don't care what I was doing. I
Speaker 4: was in the strip club having sex with the phone
Speaker 4: ring is my mom is something like, hey, stop to
Speaker 4: stop the music. I picked the phone up all the
Speaker 4: time because mymphis was so bad, and you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't know it was it. They just called me to
Speaker 4: check on me and saying I'm doing or it could
Speaker 4: have been like an emergency. I mean one time, one
Speaker 4: time my dad called me. I was high as a mother,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It was kind of weird too,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I thought I was smoking
Speaker 4: some weed and I thought they'd put some cocaine in it. Man, bro,
Speaker 4: I was so high, I was like laughing and SHIP
Speaker 4: couldn't stand up straight. I was feeling like I was
Speaker 4: about to pass out. He just called me. I know,
Speaker 4: he was like, what you're doing. I was like chilling,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He's like, oh, okay, I'm
Speaker 4: just checking. I just thought about you, and I was
Speaker 4: just this must have been a sign from God. Let
Speaker 4: me get out of this. I was at somebody house
Speaker 4: and let me get the hell out of here. Man
Speaker 4: at the time, you know, so I left. But yeah,
Speaker 4: they all they took care of me.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: They made me who I am today.
Speaker 3: You your granddad had, do you have? It was two
Speaker 3: families that all had the same names.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had had one family Lymphis and
Speaker 4: I think the other one the other one was like
Speaker 4: in Mississippi, and so he had named him the same names.
Speaker 1: So that's wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he couldn't you remember? He remember the names?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like, my mom name was Shirley,
Speaker 4: so he named his other daughter he had somewhere else Shirley.
Speaker 4: So he can remember the names.
Speaker 1: When did y'all find that out? Uh?
Speaker 4: My mom told me and my aunts told me. They
Speaker 4: told me a lot of a lot of stuff about him.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was he passed away before I was born,
Speaker 4: But they told me a lot of stuff about him,
Speaker 4: and I just felt like, like going back to mental
Speaker 4: mental health. You know my mom, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: For her to come from that kind of situation, you know,
Speaker 4: I could tell, like you know, she had been damaged
Speaker 4: by that. You know what I'm saying. I could tell
Speaker 4: doing her movements and things she did. She was upset
Speaker 4: about that. You know, she told me her dad never
Speaker 4: told her he loved her. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's bad, man, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: like I said, man, mental health starts with in the
Speaker 4: beginning of your life, and it can affect you later.
Speaker 4: It does affect you later on in your life.
Speaker 2: You ever think about while our parents never said I
Speaker 2: love you, like, why was it so difficult for our
Speaker 2: parents to be like, I love you? Because when you
Speaker 2: hear the story all the time about our generation saying
Speaker 2: their parents never said I love you ever, because that's
Speaker 2: my daughter, I say it all the time, I said overly.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think we take for granted.
Speaker 5: And like the way you're talking about mental health, the
Speaker 5: way I talked about mental health, we're the first generation
Speaker 5: that has the luxury of healing. The generation before they
Speaker 5: were scratching and surviving, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like they weren't thinking about that kind of stuff. They
Speaker 3: weren't thinking about emotions.
Speaker 4: And all that. My mom, my mom told me, she
Speaker 4: told me she loved me, though did too.
Speaker 3: My dad didn't.
Speaker 1: My dad didn't. But now later on, later on in life, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get it to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we need that though. You know, the kids
Speaker 4: need that love. Man, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And like I said, and
Speaker 4: that affects us later on our life. You know, you're
Speaker 4: thinking about Like my mom talked about that, and I
Speaker 4: was like, damn, I felt like she was really she
Speaker 4: was really messed up about that, like like he never
Speaker 4: told me he loved me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She was saying, and she would have tears in her eyes.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's terrible, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She had to go through that, and she really never
Speaker 4: talked to any about it. It was all she was
Speaker 4: always quiet about a lot of different things. And that's
Speaker 4: why I said, a lot of times, we just need
Speaker 4: to be needing to have somebody to talk to, you know,
Speaker 4: like a therapist. I have a therapist. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Her, You talk about therapists like I got one.
Speaker 4: I've had a couple of, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and uh, we need that man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know we we definitely need to pray and pray
Speaker 4: to God most definitely, that's number one. And if we
Speaker 4: need to have somebody to talk to, we need to
Speaker 4: have somebody to talk to to try to help get
Speaker 4: over that. Because I feel like if she maybe would
Speaker 4: have had if she would have talked to talk to
Speaker 4: somebody about that and somebody maybe like could understand her
Speaker 4: and listen to her things that maybe had been different.
Speaker 4: My mom was closed off. She didn't really she had
Speaker 4: she really had like a lot of friends. She was
Speaker 4: kind of just closed off, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and it just affected you know, all that stuff affected her.
Speaker 3: Man. But what got you on your healing journey.
Speaker 4: Just you know, talking to talking with my therapist. My therapist.
Speaker 4: The first thing he told me, he said, man, let's
Speaker 4: start with the beginning. You know what I'm saying, how
Speaker 4: you know, how were you raised? Weren't you you know,
Speaker 4: how was your mom? And then that would put me
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, that's why I'm like I
Speaker 4: am today because I went through this and you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Okay, okay, now started realizing helped me
Speaker 4: really like my issues I had, like my paranoia, always
Speaker 4: looking over my shoulder.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I might overdo it. I
Speaker 4: might have like more guns on me than the average
Speaker 4: gun I post to post. You know, maybe it's like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: going to a small function, bring one gun. I might
Speaker 4: have two, three. I mean, just bring one security. I
Speaker 4: might have four. You know what I'm saying. Coming up
Speaker 4: in Memphis, it's like Nigga, Man, it was crazy out there.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I was like, just Nigga
Speaker 4: was talking about robbing me, doing this and doing that.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, shit, I'm being on point. Motherfucker, pull up,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot him in the face. You know, That's
Speaker 4: just how it was. You had to you know, coming
Speaker 4: up in members you gotta be like that. They make
Speaker 4: you like that. Even you try to be like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be cool, I ain't gonna do nothing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Nigga steal your bike. Nigga stole my bike. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, nigga shot my cock one day. I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, you know what I'm saying. It's like that, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm a mask up on your motherfucking ass, nigga. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So you know I was, I
Speaker 4: I start sinking into that environment. So and then it did.
Speaker 4: But still even still, you know you missed a tough guy. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Still you have to look over your shoulder cause you
Speaker 4: don't know if your best friend or somebody next year,
Speaker 4: you're gonna blow your ass off, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like real shit, niggas a snake out that nigga pull
Speaker 4: some moves. I didn't have. Niggas set me up and
Speaker 4: all kind of shit.
Speaker 3: So so you just had a bunch of unhealed trauma.
Speaker 3: You need a unpack there you go, right, So.
Speaker 4: I'm like, just right here. So then even when I
Speaker 4: come there, like I go anywhere, I'm on the same
Speaker 4: type of time. You know what I'm saying, I ain't
Speaker 4: never like I'm just chilling. I'm in a different city,
Speaker 4: so like its chill. Hell no, we got more guns.
Speaker 4: We got a vests. I just to sleep with a
Speaker 4: bulletproof vests. On in Memphis. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: When I was in my house, you know, it was
Speaker 4: just so bad like that, I would sleep with the
Speaker 4: best so then I would I would try to train
Speaker 4: myself to wake up to grab a gun at a
Speaker 4: certain time. I hear, I hear a noise and ours
Speaker 4: I'm I'm fucking jumping up with the strap. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, at least.
Speaker 3: Told you to get a better gun. One time, though, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got pulled over.
Speaker 4: He seen my gun. I had this little thirty eight.
Speaker 4: He said, it's piece of shit, took the bullets out
Speaker 4: and threw the gun back at me. Dangn I man,
Speaker 4: get you a better gun, man, and they drove off.
Speaker 3: Would you how would you define Memphis now versus when
Speaker 3: you were growing up?
Speaker 4: It's worse now, really? Oh shit, this man, it's so
Speaker 4: bad now. Man. They jacking every day. Bro, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, You know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 4: was bad then, but now it's like they didn't they
Speaker 4: didn't boost it up.
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, and we always say that
Speaker 5: things are worse now. The thing I think is missing
Speaker 5: is there's no like it's just crazy. It's not there's
Speaker 5: no spiritual foundation, like these kids ain't got no morals,
Speaker 5: no values, like no respect. You know, there was a
Speaker 5: respect among There was an honor among thieves and crooks
Speaker 5: back I know that sounds crazy when you think about it,
Speaker 5: but it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was a real street code back then.
Speaker 4: You know, it was You're right, it was honored. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It was like, all right, we're
Speaker 4: doing this, we're doing that, but we're not doing you know,
Speaker 4: we're not you know, no kids involved. You know, stuff
Speaker 4: like that in street business. But now it's like fuck it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Anything goes nigga, you walk
Speaker 4: through the door. Anybody wouldn't kill them all. You know,
Speaker 4: they just think like that. People think like that. Now
Speaker 4: it's fucked up. That's why I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 4: when I'm done with this rap shit, man, when you
Speaker 4: know the older, when I get closest sixty, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, pushing seventy shit, I'm running for an
Speaker 4: office or some down there Memphis. Man, I want to
Speaker 4: change the city. I want to get people better jobs
Speaker 4: because they don't have job opportunities down there. Many like
Speaker 4: the hope is down there is like there's no hope.
Speaker 4: So people are just going crazy down there. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think if they had better jobs
Speaker 4: and opportunities down at Myphis and definitely some you know,
Speaker 4: somebody talking to these niggas, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and talking about mental health and talking about situations in
Speaker 4: life and how can we try to fix this. I
Speaker 4: think things could be better. It's because take time.
Speaker 1: But also I think there's more. I think there need
Speaker 1: more things to do.
Speaker 2: Yes, like anything comes to the city, and like, like
Speaker 2: I said, when I did the call show out there,
Speaker 2: it was so many families and even even the police
Speaker 2: and the sheriff they were happening. It was like, we
Speaker 2: need more events like this, Yeah, for kids to keet
Speaker 2: them out the streets, let them come in in and
Speaker 2: see things and be inspired. And I was like a
Speaker 2: lot of cities need stuff like that. And the amount
Speaker 2: of people that came out in Memphis it was just amazing.
Speaker 2: But then when it was time to do after Port,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I'm gonna come do afterpart. I
Speaker 1: heard three people got shot last night, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: so it was that type of thing as well, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad man, yep, I feel you. I know
Speaker 4: y'all had like hello polies with job workers.
Speaker 2: Now, I was gonna aquit busy out there. When you
Speaker 2: talk about somebody setting you up? How do you trust
Speaker 2: people again after you say somebody on your team set
Speaker 2: you up? Like, how do you develop that trust again?
Speaker 4: Because that gotta be I canna fuck with them no more,
Speaker 4: but besides them, how to developed the trust?
Speaker 2: I like other people on your team because you always
Speaker 2: got to be looking over your shoulder. You always got
Speaker 2: to be scared, you know, man, you know it? Just
Speaker 2: I just say, man, or do you not trust anybody anymore?
Speaker 4: Really? I really pretty much? Don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I trust to folks on with you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at the end of the day three
Speaker 4: sis mighty, I trusted a lot of people in three
Speaker 4: sis Mabi. You know we was a real it was
Speaker 4: you know, we was a but it was like a
Speaker 4: lot of outside niggas that was coming in. And I
Speaker 4: didn't trust you know what I'm saying, and and and
Speaker 4: and the group didn't trust you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: stuff like situation like that. But as far as before three, like,
Speaker 4: not even talking about three sets might be me just
Speaker 4: coming up in North members. No, I can't trust nobody, man, Noah,
Speaker 4: I had this chick set me up. I was at
Speaker 4: this chick crib running one day and uh, I mean
Speaker 4: I've slept. Like when I woke up, I was like, Damn,
Speaker 4: I never slept that that loan you you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I woke up. All my money in my
Speaker 4: pockets was gone. Damn my car was on flat. All
Speaker 4: all four tires was on flat.
Speaker 3: See you should have said no the rachet pus, you.
Speaker 4: Know, right, And she was like, what happened.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 4: You told me? She's like, no, I didn't just I
Speaker 4: hadn't do ship. So I went out to my car.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, what my tires on flat? And like
Speaker 4: the nigga didn't cut my tires, he just left the
Speaker 4: roup my tires. So I got somebody to come by
Speaker 4: and put the air in the tires and I left.
Speaker 4: And then she called me like a day or two
Speaker 4: She's like, I didn't set you up. I didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: But you white, you know you don't call me. I
Speaker 4: must want you to know I didn't do that. I said, bitch,
Speaker 4: don't call him. I was on the phone in her face.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I just used as a lesson.
Speaker 4: Learned man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: She was telling the truth though you just knew you up,
Speaker 3: that was it I spot.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I mean like it was like a
Speaker 4: mom house and may she had a couple of brothers
Speaker 4: in there. You know, she tried to blame on her brothers,
Speaker 4: but may come on, brother, Damn, come on, I was
Speaker 4: in her room.
Speaker 3: That would have been the end of ratchet pussy for me. Juicy.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I just hit to you's like
Speaker 4: to pointing ot where you can know the raget busy.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm married now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's done. But you know, after that, I start getting
Speaker 4: hotelroo because I didn't get hotel rooms at first. I
Speaker 4: was just like, you know, at a chick's house or whatever,
Speaker 4: I might have a strap or some something and I'm good. No,
Speaker 4: I wasn't good. After that, I start getting hotel rooms
Speaker 4: and ship so you know, like I would pull up
Speaker 4: and get like, uh, you know they have these hotels
Speaker 4: and myths you can pull up like a drive through,
Speaker 4: get like two three hours, smash and dash. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Book, you gotta get the book.
Speaker 4: All in the book.
Speaker 5: I want to say, good morning America. They wouldn't let
Speaker 5: you wear this grat jacket and the hannibal like the mask.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: No, it was a little scary, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But it's all good. They're good man. I had a
Speaker 4: great time over there. Man. They good people. I understood.
Speaker 4: That's what I brought extra outfits too. So what they do?
Speaker 3: They just came here and said, hey, man, did you
Speaker 3: tell them what it was for? You say, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to raise up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had we had that in place, but they
Speaker 4: weren't really trying to hear that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, damn damn. Are you executive producing making
Speaker 5: the Stallions new album?
Speaker 4: No? No, I wish I was, But I'm I'm executive
Speaker 4: producing Tar Dog Signs album, Dog Signs Album, and then
Speaker 4: I'm I'm producing a lot of stuff makes I'm doing
Speaker 4: a lot of production for it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I heard y'all got a lot of records together.
Speaker 4: Man, we got a lot of hard ship man.
Speaker 3: So why Yeah, I personally when I heard that I'm like,
Speaker 3: damn U c j ep and making the Stallion. That's sound.
Speaker 4: That's son album is real. It sounded like a ninety
Speaker 4: two two thousands, Uh, you know, mid two thousand and three,
Speaker 4: six month albums hard singing over us, singing and singing
Speaker 4: over that ship shit crazy.
Speaker 3: Is that what he wanted? He wanted that vibe?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he asked me to executive produce the project.
Speaker 5: What's Meg's vibe like? Because you know that's some It's
Speaker 5: a big album for her after everything she went through. Like,
Speaker 5: this's a big project, big project. I can't tell you that,
Speaker 5: but it's hard. The motherfucker. She she she energized. Man,
Speaker 5: she going in killing everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well the book is out right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, one more question, one more question. What does song
Speaker 3: one O seven one mean to you?
Speaker 4: Song one O seven one which with Psalm one some
Speaker 4: oh this one on the back, Yeah, let's read it.
Speaker 3: Oh gift thanks him to the Lord for he is
Speaker 3: good for his mercy and doing or forever.
Speaker 4: First I thought you said soon, Yeah, this is something
Speaker 4: I chose. You know, every every album, always put a
Speaker 4: Bible scripture on my album to notice that. So I
Speaker 4: felt like this right, here. Oh, give thanks unto the Lord.
Speaker 4: He is for he is good, for his mercy, and
Speaker 4: do it forever like his mersey everything. You know, he
Speaker 4: has mercy on you. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 4: in other words, you can change your life around. He
Speaker 4: gonna forgive you all your sins and your wrongdoing. So
Speaker 4: this is very inspirational for me. It's just I feel
Speaker 4: like this. This is a part of my life right now.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Trusting in the Lord man,
Speaker 4: because he gonna he forgives you. And you can always
Speaker 4: start over and be a new person. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You can go from bad to good. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I love it man, Juicy talking about spirituality, mental health.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, come on man, pick up the books
Speaker 5: of the Juice Man.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you can get it right now.
Speaker 5: The Sore and Baker too so. And you did a
Speaker 5: phenomenal job. I don't know you, but you did a
Speaker 5: phenomenal job.
Speaker 4: A great job. Yep. Three is my DJ Paul Crunchy Black,
Speaker 4: Rest in Peace, Lord Infamous, Rest in Peace, Gangstablue and Coops,
Speaker 4: the Nigga and everybody. Uh shout out to the whole
Speaker 4: hypnotized camp posse. Man, you know what I'm saying, Hopefully
Speaker 4: one day we can all get together and do a
Speaker 4: crazy tour.
Speaker 3: I had an idea.
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, since I heard b G got out,
Speaker 4: you know, shout out to BEG like man, be dope
Speaker 4: with cash money and hypnotize, did a whole tour.
Speaker 1: That'd be dope. We said that earlier.
Speaker 5: With that, with that, could could you be able to
Speaker 5: do that without the gangsta bulls and you know everybody else?
Speaker 4: Yeah? We could. We figured out we'll do it. Maybe
Speaker 4: bring like a hologram or something, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: something special with the special effects. Yeah, I think that'll
Speaker 4: be dope.
Speaker 3: You're still dealing with that? Do you ever get over that?
Speaker 4: It's getting over the passing of them? Never. I think
Speaker 4: about all of them all the time. I cried here
Speaker 4: and there, you know, real ship, like that's that ship
Speaker 4: tore me up? Man? Still like still crazy?
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