Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast Club morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody is deej Envy Charlamagne the guy. We are to
Speaker 1: breakfast Club. It's time for some front page news this morning, though,
Speaker 1: we got Tamika Mallory on the line.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Tamika, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3: Not just on the line, Tamika's on the front lines.
Speaker 3: Tamika is back in Kentucky, Kentucky. That's right. Why is
Speaker 3: our good sister, Tamika Mallory back in Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we made a commitment three years ago
Speaker 4: to Brionna Taylor's family that we would not just come
Speaker 4: out in protest, but that we would continue to work
Speaker 4: with the community through all the phases. And we're in
Speaker 4: a second phase, if you will, or another phase of
Speaker 4: the fight for justice for her and the community, which
Speaker 4: is to stop the man who was the special prosecutor
Speaker 4: on the case, who should have secured indictments for the.
Speaker 2: Officers who killed Brianna Taylor.
Speaker 4: He is the attorney general, the current attorney general of
Speaker 4: the state of Kentucky. His name is Daniel Cameron, and
Speaker 4: he is now running for governor, which means he would
Speaker 4: receive a promotion for not doing what's necessary to bring
Speaker 4: justice to this community and to this family. He has
Speaker 4: been very clear that he is a police guy. He's
Speaker 4: in fact a black man who is very much so
Speaker 4: in support of the police. He is endorsed by Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: is something that he uses all over in his campaigns,
Speaker 4: you know, ads for his race. He is very close
Speaker 4: to Mitch McConnell and in many ways the scene as
Speaker 4: a potential successor to Mitch McConnell here in the state
Speaker 4: of Kentucky.
Speaker 2: And if you look.
Speaker 4: At his policies, how he wants to be tough on crime,
Speaker 4: which is usually a dog whistle for locking up black
Speaker 4: and brown folks and not really trying to provide us
Speaker 4: with the resources that we need. You know, he's a
Speaker 4: pretty dangerous guy. I would say that he's like the
Speaker 4: black cousin of Ron DeSantis, who is the governor of Florida.
Speaker 4: And so we are back in Kentucky from now until
Speaker 4: November seventh, when his election will happen. Ensuring that people
Speaker 4: are one registered to vote and two that they are
Speaker 4: very clear about who they're voting for and what this
Speaker 4: man is capable of. One of the things in his
Speaker 4: twelve point plan that he wants to do if this
Speaker 4: helps to sort of draw a picture or paint a
Speaker 4: picture of who he is, is to get rid of
Speaker 4: civilian complaint review boards. He wants to stop the civilians
Speaker 4: from having the authority to sanction police officers when they
Speaker 4: do something wrong. Right, he's talking about giving the death
Speaker 4: penalty to offenders. He is a very very dangerous man,
Speaker 4: and his policies are policies that you're trying to move
Speaker 4: away from, and so we don't want him to be
Speaker 4: So you know, I have the.
Speaker 2: Personal vendetta because of his behavior.
Speaker 4: And the Brionna Taylor case, but his policies are also
Speaker 4: very dangerous. And the last thing I'll say is, you know,
Speaker 4: if there are some people who believe that we as activists.
Speaker 2: And organizers, we just always don't like someone.
Speaker 4: But if you go back and look at the time
Speaker 4: when the grand jury had been and paneled and they
Speaker 4: were meeting in terms of whether they would bring charges
Speaker 4: for Brianna Taylor, one of the things that happened at
Speaker 4: that time was that after it was over, Daniel Cameron
Speaker 4: came forward and said that those jurors did not find
Speaker 4: charges for the officers for Brionna Taylor.
Speaker 2: Specifically.
Speaker 4: In fact, the only charge that came out of that
Speaker 4: grand jury was a bullet going through the wall and
Speaker 4: how it could have potentially hurt someone on the other side.
Speaker 4: The jurors came forward, at least three of them. They
Speaker 4: came forward and said that they had never been presented
Speaker 4: with charges for Breonna Taylor, that they waited.
Speaker 2: Until the end.
Speaker 4: They thought they would hear about Brionna Taylor, but they didn't.
Speaker 4: So therefore Daniel Cameron live. So not only is he
Speaker 4: bad on policy, not only is he a police guy,
Speaker 4: but he's also a liar.
Speaker 2: And an obstructionist to justice.
Speaker 3: I got two more questions to Meikha before we talk
Speaker 3: about You know what I really want you to talk about.
Speaker 3: Is there another candidate you all are supporting against Daniel Cameron.
Speaker 4: Well, we are really here to First of all, there's
Speaker 4: only two candidates. There's the current governor, Governor Basher, who
Speaker 4: happens to be a Democrat, and Governor Basher. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: say he's terrible, but of course you and I talk
Speaker 4: all the time about how much more the Democratic Party
Speaker 4: has to do in order to be as committed to
Speaker 4: it to us as voters as we've been to them,
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't sit and tell you that I'm this
Speaker 4: huge Basher supporter, but he is the alternative candidate. One
Speaker 4: of the things that Governor Bashir has done is restored
Speaker 4: the voting rights of one hundred and seventy thousand people
Speaker 4: who are formerly incarcerated or people who have had convictions
Speaker 4: felony convictions, and sixty thousand of those people registered to vote,
Speaker 4: but only ten thousand of them have been to the polls. So,
Speaker 4: as far as we're concerned, that one hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: thousand people is an important number for what we're doing
Speaker 4: here now and what power looks like or power building
Speaker 4: looks like in the state of Kentucky. So we do
Speaker 4: give him credit for that. There's been some other things
Speaker 4: that he's done. There are local people in the state
Speaker 4: of Kentucky who some support him, others have real issues
Speaker 4: with him. Before the most part, those people who are
Speaker 4: grassroots leaders on the ground are saying vote for Governor
Speaker 4: Basher and vote and do not vote for Daniel Cameron.
Speaker 1: Well, for those just listening, we're talking to ta Mika Mallory.
Speaker 1: She's out in Kentucky now. One thing that I didn't
Speaker 1: see I seen you on Live the other day, said
Speaker 1: that your life was threatened and that somebody threatened your hotel.
Speaker 1: That's what we need to get to and all that
Speaker 1: other stuff. So so explain to the people what happened.
Speaker 1: And some people just don't know how dangerous your work
Speaker 1: is and what you have to deal with it. They
Speaker 1: think you just stand on the front line and you
Speaker 1: shout and you scream. But it's a lot, it's a
Speaker 1: lot more than that. So break down, what's what's been
Speaker 1: going on and happening with you right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. I do stand on the front line
Speaker 2: and yell and scream.
Speaker 4: I do that too, which is probably why the death
Speaker 4: threats were coming through the several hotels in the state
Speaker 4: in Kentucky and Louisville, Kentucky received phone calls from someone
Speaker 4: a man asking whether or not I was staying at
Speaker 4: those hotels. And of course, in you know, the if
Speaker 4: the protocol is followed properly, hotels would never say you
Speaker 4: know that the person is here.
Speaker 2: So they said, well, you know she's not. I don't
Speaker 2: you know. They said, we can't give out that information.
Speaker 4: And the response was, well, it doesn't matter whether she's
Speaker 4: staying there.
Speaker 2: Or not, but tell the bitch that I'm going to shoot.
Speaker 4: So that was the first call, and of course, you know,
Speaker 4: they tracked me down. The police department in Kentucky and
Speaker 4: the Louisville specifically, they know how to reach me, whether
Speaker 4: it be from the people that I work closely with
Speaker 4: here who work within the system, and or just the
Speaker 4: fact that I've been arrested a few times here and
Speaker 4: as well as just relationships that we've built. So they
Speaker 4: tracked me down, had a conversation with me. They had
Speaker 4: police to meet me to let me know that it
Speaker 4: sounded like a credible threat. They were concerned about it,
Speaker 4: and we did a report in which detectives got involved.
Speaker 4: So that was earlier in the day. Later in the evening,
Speaker 4: more calls came in, and this particular call was much
Speaker 4: more nerve wrecking, if you will, from me. It was
Speaker 4: much more concerning because the person called exactly at the
Speaker 4: time that I was arriving to the hotel, and they
Speaker 4: knew the color car that I've in, and they told
Speaker 4: the person at the front desk, you know, you see her,
Speaker 4: the bitch that just got out of the car, and
Speaker 4: they named the color car and said we're going to
Speaker 4: shoot her, and we're going to shoot up the hotel.
Speaker 4: So once they started, you know, first of all, I'm
Speaker 4: sure that the officers, most of them, do not want
Speaker 4: me to be harmed here in Louisville. So you know,
Speaker 4: when I met with the officers earlier in the day,
Speaker 4: they called, they checked in, they were really really serious
Speaker 4: about it. But I think that once someone says they're
Speaker 4: going to shoot up a hotel, it turns into a
Speaker 4: whole different situation when we're.
Speaker 2: In this climate where there are mass.
Speaker 4: Shootings, where people are walking into buildings and shooting multiple people.
Speaker 4: And so at that point, the Department of Justice, the FBI,
Speaker 4: and all these other individuals became concerned about what's happening. So,
Speaker 4: you know, since then, things have been pretty cool. That
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that we're not still be a watch. We
Speaker 4: went through this, y'all know it because you reported on
Speaker 4: it when we lived here.
Speaker 3: Why do you say since then, Tom, you've only been
Speaker 3: there seventy two hours?
Speaker 2: Then, I mean every day, every day. Listen.
Speaker 4: We got through yesterday without anyone reporting any calls, but
Speaker 4: the day before was a really bad day. And I
Speaker 4: think you know what for me, As I said, you
Speaker 4: all have covered this before, because when we were living
Speaker 4: in Kentucky for four months in the thick of fighting
Speaker 4: for Breonna Taylor, we were being threatened every day. We
Speaker 4: had all types of police surveillance, We had the White
Speaker 4: supremacists coming after us. We will find them, you know,
Speaker 4: our security they found people in the bushes. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was just a nightmare what we went through. And
Speaker 4: so we're pretty much used to it. Not saying that
Speaker 4: that means that we don't take it seriously because we do,
Speaker 4: and we do have a very expensive, unfortunately security team
Speaker 4: of brothers who love and protect me with their life
Speaker 4: and protect us.
Speaker 2: With their lives.
Speaker 4: But what really bothered me wasn't so much that the
Speaker 4: threat was against me. It's that there's a person. I
Speaker 4: don't know what they make, but let's just say, for
Speaker 4: the purpose of this conversation, eighteen dollars an hour and
Speaker 4: you're answering the phone in the hotel and someone is
Speaker 4: saying that they're going to shoot up the hotel.
Speaker 2: That's scary.
Speaker 4: It's scary for their families, it's scary for them personally.
Speaker 4: Now the rest of the time that I'm doing my job,
Speaker 4: I'm worrying about who might come through this door and
Speaker 4: what might happen and then trying to relay that to
Speaker 4: my family members. It's no joke, so we don't take
Speaker 4: it lightly. We understand the significance of those types of threats,
Speaker 4: and yes, more than likely people are not going to
Speaker 4: call you and tell you they're going to kill you.
Speaker 4: But we know that at the Top shooting in the
Speaker 4: Top Supermarket shooting in Buffalo, that man had been there before,
Speaker 4: he was surveialing the location.
Speaker 2: So it's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: That it won't happen that someone will come surveil, you know,
Speaker 4: do surveil the area, maybe even call and then go
Speaker 4: out and do something heinous, like to try to murder people.
Speaker 2: So we do take it seriously.
Speaker 3: Why do you even have to be there, Tamika, I
Speaker 3: asked you this yesterday, but I want you to I
Speaker 3: want to say this. I don't ask you publicly. Why
Speaker 3: do you have to be there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, because people are like, you
Speaker 4: should go home, including some of my family members are like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: you did enough, like go home. But again, I promised
Speaker 4: to Meeka Palma, Breonna Taylor's mother that we were never
Speaker 4: gonna leave her and to have Daniel Cameron knowing. And
Speaker 4: by the way, some people will say, well, maybe there
Speaker 4: were no charges, Well there were because the Department of
Speaker 4: Justice has uh the the uh the the civil rights
Speaker 4: charges that have been filed against those officers are significant.
Speaker 4: So it's not that there was nothing there. There was
Speaker 4: absolutely something to indict those officers on because we now
Speaker 4: see that the federal government has moved in to do
Speaker 4: so and they don't do that and lets they know.
Speaker 4: And by the way, once they started, once they got
Speaker 4: a little bit of information and they started pricking into it,
Speaker 4: people started coming forward.
Speaker 2: And when I say people, I'm.
Speaker 4: Talking about police officers telling the truth about what took
Speaker 4: place and the ways in which they covered up the
Speaker 4: murder of Brianna Taylor. So we have a real serious
Speaker 4: chip on our shoulder with this because we were here
Speaker 4: and we could have lost our lives, something really bad
Speaker 4: could have happened to us, as it did Brihanna. And
Speaker 4: I promised Tamika that I would help her to finish
Speaker 4: the job. And one thing I always tell folks is
Speaker 4: a lot of people that are online activists and I
Speaker 4: don't take anything away from them because raising awareness is
Speaker 4: a part of activism. But I'm an organizer that is
Speaker 4: from the old school, and I believe you have to
Speaker 4: knock on doors and look people in their eyes and
Speaker 4: remind them of their power and remind them of the
Speaker 4: importance of them paying attention to not just elections, but
Speaker 4: whatever the movements are for social causes happening in their community.
Speaker 4: And so when we live here before, we knocked on doors,
Speaker 4: we took food to four thousand families, We held conferences,
Speaker 4: we did things in this community that has we built
Speaker 4: a family here of organizers and we know what they need.
Speaker 4: They're doing the work on their own, but we help
Speaker 4: them to bring it and raise the attention to a
Speaker 4: national level so people will know what's going on in Kentucky.
Speaker 4: It is and you know, and you all know because we.
Speaker 2: Talk about this. It's a virus that's spreading.
Speaker 4: So what's happening in Kentucky has national implications because if
Speaker 4: Daniel Cameron becomes governor, his behavior, his policies, the ways
Speaker 4: in which he thinks. I just told you he's like
Speaker 4: the black cousin of Ron DeSantis. They are spreading something
Speaker 4: across this nation that is dangerous for our people. And
Speaker 4: so that's why I'm here. I'm here because I don't
Speaker 4: believe that I can just send a text message in
Speaker 4: a phone call and really motivate our people to get
Speaker 4: to the polls.
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you a question. For people out
Speaker 1: there that want to help, that want to donate time,
Speaker 1: finances or whatever, how can they do that and where
Speaker 1: can they do that? What's the site?
Speaker 4: So it's best to go to until freedom dot com.
Speaker 4: Until freedom dot com is safe, it's secure, it's an
Speaker 4: act Blue account, it goes straight to us. It's best
Speaker 4: to invest in our work through the website until freedom
Speaker 4: dot com. But there are some people who want to
Speaker 4: send cash app, and I'm you know, we're completely fine
Speaker 4: with that. It's until freedom on cash aff it's until freedom.
Speaker 4: The reason why I say it's best to go to
Speaker 4: until freedom dot com is because there are imposters that
Speaker 4: since twenty twenty have been putting up accounts either with
Speaker 4: my picture or the until freedom picture, and they have
Speaker 4: added things like NY or US or an extra L
Speaker 4: or something that will make someone who's not paying attention
Speaker 4: closely choose that and send money. And we know for sure,
Speaker 4: because we have verified it with cash app, that that
Speaker 4: money thousands of dollars have gone to these fake accounts,
Speaker 4: So we ask people that if you're going to do
Speaker 4: cash app pay attention to the words being spelled properly.
Speaker 4: It's until Freedom and there is no end. Why there's
Speaker 4: no US, there's no nothing else. But if you can,
Speaker 4: it's really quick to just go to untilfreedom dot com
Speaker 4: and give that way.
Speaker 3: Well, Tamiga, we love you, we value you, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3: We thank you for always being on the front lines,
Speaker 3: you know, fighting for us, even when it's not the sexy,
Speaker 3: sexy story or sexy thing to do at the moment.
Speaker 3: And you know, like you said yesterday, you're getting all
Speaker 3: these death threats and it's easier to do something when
Speaker 3: it's in the dark. So that's why we shine in
Speaker 3: the light on the work you're doing in Kentucky right now.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much and be safe them.
Speaker 2: Love y'all, appreciate you. Hopefully I'll be able to come
Speaker 2: in when we get back.
Speaker 3: Absolutely wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club