Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Vanessa Mayor and this is my brother Jonah.
Speaker 2: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood
Speaker 2: in nostalgia and how shaped us into the people we
Speaker 2: are today.
Speaker 1: Who are pretty post if I do so so myself.
Speaker 3: Welcome to how did we get weird?
Speaker 1: So Jonah, I know we're both really excited about our
Speaker 1: guests today. And I think when I first met him
Speaker 1: a little while back, we actually went to his home.
Speaker 2: Well, I was hanging out at his house. I think
Speaker 2: he's nodding, so I think he remembers this. We were
Speaker 2: working on something. I think Chris Fern was also there,
Speaker 2: and maybe he'll remember the contest a little more. At
Speaker 2: some point, you were in the area or something and
Speaker 2: you wanted to come by, and you were basically like
Speaker 2: showed up and then we're like, can I take a
Speaker 2: nap at your house?
Speaker 4: And I was like yeah, sure, And then he went
Speaker 4: to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I took a nap for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I went and picked up merch and then
Speaker 4: when I got back, you were gone, wow, and Chris
Speaker 4: and Laura were like, oh man. Vanessa told us all
Speaker 4: these cool stories about SNL, and I'm like, great, cool, cool,
Speaker 4: cool cool cool.
Speaker 1: Oh so I woke up and told stories before I left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's kind of the least you could do, Vanessa.
Speaker 2: Don't you feel like, I mean, you're showing up for
Speaker 2: someone just asking to take a nap.
Speaker 3: You gotta at least well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I didn't get the stories. Yeah, I got
Speaker 4: the Yeah. I went to Kinko's. I got like seven
Speaker 4: inch inserts or something.
Speaker 2: In case you haven't noticed from downloading this podcast seeing
Speaker 2: jess name or the photo of him promoting a.
Speaker 4: Guest name on the podcast, I know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, we put the guest name and then we
Speaker 2: act like no one knows who it is.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just classic podcasts culture.
Speaker 3: That's cool, that's cool, it's cool. We'd like to keep
Speaker 3: the mystery alive.
Speaker 2: But our guest today is a musician you might know
Speaker 2: friends work, you know, bomb the music industry. He also
Speaker 2: does a lot of work as composer for cartoons, but
Speaker 2: you most likely just on miss Jeff Roads and Stock.
Speaker 2: He's a new album out called hell Mode that just
Speaker 2: came out. Let's welcome Jeff Rhoads and Stock. Hi, Jeff, Hi,
Speaker 2: thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: Vanessa and Jonah, I'm stoked to be here and great
Speaker 4: and yeah, thanks, thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Jeff.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the context of this, You're like, Vanessa's
Speaker 2: gonna nap. Yeah, I think Vanessa you sprang and we went.
Speaker 1: There with you, Jonah. But you're saying I was in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: I thought you came later. I guess it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Maybe I did. I remember the room I slept in,
Speaker 1: like I sort of remember what it looked like, and
Speaker 1: I just remember getting some great sleep in there.
Speaker 4: Glad our mattress did did good. I remember you were like,
Speaker 4: is that weird? Like, no, go to you're tired?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing you guys. Were you maybe doing
Speaker 1: a podcast while I was there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were probably doing because me and my friend
Speaker 4: Chris fair And have a lost podcast called to the Island,
Speaker 4: and Jonah has been a guest on a handful of episodes.
Speaker 1: You know what, I wonder if you were doing that, Jonah,
Speaker 1: you were being a guest on their podcast while I
Speaker 1: was taking a nap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely possible.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I feel like this story kind of like continues in
Speaker 1: a weird way in kind of like surprising things because
Speaker 1: I Jeff met your sister and we like became friends.
Speaker 1: And then she's a very funny television writer. Your sister Kim,
Speaker 1: and we had gotten coffee, We've gotten breakfast a bunch
Speaker 1: of times, never made the connection that our brothers were friends.
Speaker 1: And then she was telling me about the show and
Speaker 1: I realized her last name was Rosenstock, and that's not
Speaker 1: a last name you hear all the time. And she
Speaker 1: was sort of like, my brother's in the music scene.
Speaker 1: And I was like, so is my brother, Oh I think,
Speaker 1: I said, is your brother Jeff Rosenstock? And she said yes?
Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell because I feel
Speaker 1: like Jonah talks about you so much and was like
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, our brothers are friends.
Speaker 1: The fact that that happened after she and I had
Speaker 1: hung out several times, I think it's pretty crazy. And
Speaker 1: also she lives in La yeah, and I do now too,
Speaker 1: but at the time I think I was living in
Speaker 1: New York anyway.
Speaker 4: Pretty wild. Yeah, it's wild. Usually the connection with my
Speaker 4: sister does not pop up as much as you think
Speaker 4: it would do, being that we're both in entertainment fields
Speaker 4: or whatever. But like, yeah, that's funny, that's funny.
Speaker 2: See, yeah, Vanessa, did you ask to take a nap
Speaker 2: at Jeff's sister's place.
Speaker 1: Or no, I haven't yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta go Goldilock style with me and my
Speaker 4: sister and my brother. Sounds like I'm in the lead already,
Speaker 4: but yes.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure? And where does your brother live?
Speaker 4: He lives on the Panhandle of Florida, so that'll be
Speaker 4: harder than yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know the podcast flight that's rue. That's right,
Speaker 2: that's true. Jeff, I was like incredibly stressed out to
Speaker 2: talk to you. Not incredibly stressed out, but I was
Speaker 2: worried because I just read this dan Azzi Guardian interview
Speaker 2: about how busy you are, and I was like, is
Speaker 2: this like annoying for Jeff?
Speaker 3: Is Jeff feeling a bit?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: How what's your busy level right now? How are you feeling?
Speaker 4: So We're out in Long Island doing band practice before
Speaker 4: we go on tour for a couple of days. I
Speaker 4: had like a lull in between finishing my work on
Speaker 4: the Craig Score and I'm flying out here and the
Speaker 4: record coming out, and I got like sick enough that
Speaker 4: I tested for COVID negative. Nice, but like I was
Speaker 4: just like dead sick for like three days and like
Speaker 4: traveling and having band practice. It was a nightmare. But
Speaker 4: I've turned a corner. Yesterday, I'm feeling good. I'm drinking
Speaker 4: a coffee, we're chilling out. I would say, I'm not
Speaker 4: that busy right now. I don't know how do you
Speaker 4: answer that question? How do you quote what? Like? On
Speaker 4: a scale of one to thirty.
Speaker 1: Sure, I like that scale because it leaves room for nuance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty two eighteen around there in that range.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, compared to like twenty nine or thirty okay normally, yeah,
Speaker 4: because that's the highest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the highest is thirty.
Speaker 2: I found Dan's article to be really enjoyed reading it,
Speaker 2: and you know, him talking about your apartment in Green
Speaker 2: Point where Vanessa tic the nap and just I remember
Speaker 2: just like LP mailers, you know, everywhere, like we should
Speaker 2: write something, you know, you right, and it's like to
Speaker 2: me it was like not like dirty, but but it
Speaker 2: was it was It's okay. Well to me, it felt
Speaker 2: like a legitimate like punk. It was like legit punk,
Speaker 2: not like because you had like us rotten posters up
Speaker 2: or something, because you were like running this kind of
Speaker 2: DIY business and it was like so much your your life,
Speaker 2: and to me that was like that was really.
Speaker 4: Cool, thanks man, Yeah it was, I'll tell you. So
Speaker 4: we moved to LA and not have it to fucking
Speaker 4: carry records up three flights of stairs. It's better, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's better to not have to carry thousands of records
Speaker 4: up and down those stairs.
Speaker 2: Yes, are you happy? Like, do you miss anything about
Speaker 2: New York Hereah? For like everything, Yeah, new York's about
Speaker 2: LA's Yeah cool.
Speaker 4: I love New York, though, I feel like every time
Speaker 4: I've come back to visit, I'm like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 4: is where I'm from. Yeah, I don't know. I like me.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm slowly assimilated to LA. Like I
Speaker 4: moved right before the pandemic, so it was like.
Speaker 1: I sort of did too. Yeah, well maybe a year before,
Speaker 1: but but it feels like right before.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, were you taken aback? Also, that things are
Speaker 4: just like closed at like nine, yes, at nine.
Speaker 1: That things are closed. Yes, it is crazy. Although I
Speaker 1: think the longer I've lived here, the more LA has
Speaker 1: become like New York in that you technically could order
Speaker 1: in food at really any time of night now, but
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 4: Yes where you ordered food from?
Speaker 1: Okay, I would really love for them to sponsor us
Speaker 1: without having to give them an out. But like there's
Speaker 1: like a door dash of Postmates. In New York, we
Speaker 1: did Seamless, which I think.
Speaker 4: Here is seamless and grub Hub.
Speaker 1: Grub Hub became one yes, right, yes, right, but that
Speaker 1: stuff all exists. You can do it it just like
Speaker 1: in New York you could order from like any place
Speaker 1: that you like, even a really nice restaurant that you'd
Speaker 1: go to at like eight o'clock, you could order from
Speaker 1: it like one in the morning, whereas you can't do
Speaker 1: that here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well those food apps and stuff like I don't
Speaker 4: do it because I'm so used to the New York. Like,
Speaker 4: you know, you order Chinese food and like some guy
Speaker 4: brings it to you and it's like cool, here's your tip,
Speaker 4: but like there's like service fees and then app fees
Speaker 4: and then like a fake tip that they're like this
Speaker 4: is just for maybe we'll give it to the driver,
Speaker 4: and then it's like fifteen twenty dollars extra and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're spending like thirty five dollars
Speaker 4: on pancakes, and I'm just like, yeah, I've got that
Speaker 4: kind of money spent up pancakes.
Speaker 1: I think I had rolled into it kind of and
Speaker 1: gotten used to it in New York, because in New
Speaker 1: York I would often just out of pure laziness, order
Speaker 1: like a bagel, and it would be like a three
Speaker 1: dollars bagel, and I'd pay either all these fees so
Speaker 1: I could get it delivered, or I would order a
Speaker 1: bagel and a huge cookie and all this stuff to
Speaker 1: meet the minimum. And I'd be like, well, I guess
Speaker 1: I'm meeting the minimum, so you know, you gotta do
Speaker 1: what you gotta do.
Speaker 4: I've definitely done that where it's like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: I'll get like this, I don't monkey bread. Sure, fine,
Speaker 4: is what's it eight dollars fifteen? Yet let's go yes exactly.
Speaker 1: I think New York was really good training for that
Speaker 1: because here those minimums, you know, depending on where you're
Speaker 1: ordering from, even if it's two in the morning, especially
Speaker 1: if it's two in the morning, those minimums are pretty high.
Speaker 1: So you have to you know, depending on where you're
Speaker 1: ordering from, order milk. Order you know.
Speaker 4: Milk, huh, yeah, you're ordering milk at two am.
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes what I'll do is I'll go, okay, if
Speaker 1: I were grocery shopping. Now, like, let's think outside the box,
Speaker 1: if you will, Like, let's let's not just focus on
Speaker 1: two am, Vanessa, what do I want? Let's think about
Speaker 1: what am I going to want for this week?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: Sure smart.
Speaker 2: I live in a rural area in western Massachusetts, and here,
Speaker 2: like it's like the opposite. The restaurants are open like
Speaker 2: Tuesday through Thursday from like two to seven o'clock. Like
Speaker 2: everything's open, very weird hour. LA does that too, they do.
Speaker 2: It's Yeah, it's so colocated.
Speaker 1: I ordered seamless or door Dash for Jonah once when
Speaker 1: he was sick and I ordered him. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get him like soup. So I got him like one
Speaker 1: ton soup, and the options to deliver to him were
Speaker 1: like three places total.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have Uber out here. We don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff. But you know, you make
Speaker 2: a sandwich.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know you can deliver to
Speaker 1: So I've delivered Corky and Lenny's to mom and Dad's place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, through one of those apps. Jeff, getting into your
Speaker 2: childhood a little bit, believe or not. We didn't come
Speaker 2: here to talk food apps with you. Although I know
Speaker 2: that is a passion of yours, it's certainly a passion
Speaker 2: of mine. I'm curious, like you grew up, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to say this wrong. I know this is
Speaker 2: kind of controversial. It's on Long Island.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really know the answer to the
Speaker 4: question you're asking me.
Speaker 3: People say, in Long Island or on Long Island.
Speaker 4: I named a record to Leave or Die in Long Island,
Speaker 4: and I have a lot of people be like, isn't
Speaker 4: it on Long Island? Long Island? I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: I've never really thought about which one. I say, Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 4: I don't think it matters. Man, you know, just look
Speaker 4: at truth. You know, why are you hung up on
Speaker 4: this shit? It's fucked up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 2: Well, what was your kind of entry point into like punk,
Speaker 2: I guess, or music? Like were you listening? Was it
Speaker 2: your siblings or it was the kids at school or
Speaker 2: what was your.
Speaker 4: It was like a weird combo of like I had
Speaker 4: babysitters who would listen to like metal, Okay, and I
Speaker 4: got into like Anthrax and Guns and Roses and like
Speaker 4: some hair metal shit like Slaughter and White Lion and
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. And then a friend of my
Speaker 4: brothers was into like death metal and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is my shit. And it was like Death and
Speaker 4: Da Side and Cannibal Corpse and bands like that, and
Speaker 4: I was like a kid. I was like this, this
Speaker 4: is fast, but this is loud, and I like this.
Speaker 4: And there was also like just like hearing rap a
Speaker 4: lot too, and I was like, oh, like Public Enemy
Speaker 4: and keras One. I was like, oh, oh, I like
Speaker 4: this too. And then I think through all that, finding
Speaker 4: like Faith No More and then finding mister Bungle through
Speaker 4: that and then being like what is this music happening
Speaker 4: with the Horns? And also Fishbone around the time was
Speaker 4: kind of metal yeah, and I was like, what is
Speaker 4: this music happening with the horns? And then also kind
Speaker 4: of like Nirvana and grunge bands were happening. And then
Speaker 4: when green Day kind of happened and there were like
Speaker 4: and when like green Day and Offspring were happening, like
Speaker 4: it all just kind of like made sense, this like fast,
Speaker 4: loud music, like I was also listening to like Biohazard,
Speaker 4: Like it was mostly those of like metal and hardcore
Speaker 4: bands and stuff, and then slowly, like I slowly got
Speaker 4: into like Green Day and the Offspring. I really liked
Speaker 4: the Offspring because they were fast. And then I saw
Speaker 4: that Green Day Woodstock performance. I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 4: And then I heard the Mighty Mighty Bosstones. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: this guy screams. I was like, oh, this sounds like
Speaker 4: that mister bungle Fishbone stuff. And then I was like
Speaker 4: so I was like, yeah, that's SKA and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh okay, And then like I kind of just quickly
Speaker 4: like went down like the Epitaph W Records, rabbit Hole
Speaker 4: and like getting like two or three dollars comps and
Speaker 4: also that and like punk was just like blowing up
Speaker 4: so much that like you could just find every zine
Speaker 4: have like a sampler, and I was just like oh
Speaker 4: yeah listening to all that stuff. And then I had
Speaker 4: a zine and I would write to like small labels
Speaker 4: like Fearless at the time, which was a small label,
Speaker 4: and they'd send me like ten CDs of like ten
Speaker 4: like random ass California punk bands that I'd be like fourteen.
Speaker 4: It'd just be like this is all great, this is
Speaker 4: the best. I love this. You know, that's kind of
Speaker 4: the path I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a kind of a similar I was.
Speaker 1: Gonna say, it sounds so similar to you, Johnna.
Speaker 3: I was really I mean White Line, you know when
Speaker 3: the children cry.
Speaker 2: They had some some classic shitay, But I was really
Speaker 2: into a lot of that Lamb stuff as well, and
Speaker 2: then got into like Operation Ivying, the Misfits and that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but also was into Faith No More
Speaker 2: and like Megadeth and all that kuff. Yeah, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Megadeth, Rust and Peace still rocks. Somebody
Speaker 2: stole that CD from my car.
Speaker 4: I'm sad. It was really rusted PCD. Someone broke into
Speaker 4: my car in front of my house. Couldn't like steal
Speaker 4: the car, but just took my CD book.
Speaker 1: That's that stinks.
Speaker 3: That's not cool.
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do with that?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I was playing guitar around this time, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I learned like the first fifteen seconds of all
Speaker 2: those songs and then like gave up. But I can
Speaker 2: still play like the first, like the very beginning. I
Speaker 2: was like, I can't remember all this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good at guitar. Those metal bands are good
Speaker 4: at guitar.
Speaker 3: They were really good. They were good.
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question for both of you? This
Speaker 1: is something that Kim, your sister Jeff, pointed out to
Speaker 1: me once, which is we were talking about our brothers
Speaker 1: and saying that they're both very sweet. You're both very
Speaker 1: sweet guys. And Kim was saying, I think part of
Speaker 1: the reason my brother is so sweet or something, or
Speaker 1: she noticed she was she said, he's he gets like
Speaker 1: any kind of aggression or any kind of frustration, I
Speaker 1: guess out when he's playing his music. He plays this
Speaker 1: really sort of like intense music and it allows him
Speaker 1: to just you know, obviously there's other factors too. You're
Speaker 1: probably genuinely just a very nice person, but like both
Speaker 1: of you, but that, like she was like, he has
Speaker 1: this outlet sort of for any kind of like frustration
Speaker 1: or whatever to sort of get it out with his music,
Speaker 1: and so he plays this music that I'll speak more
Speaker 1: to Jonah like I would say that Jonah's music sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm like, WHOA, this is scary and sounds like it's
Speaker 1: coming from maniacs in a positive way, but like, do
Speaker 1: you both feel that way that it allows you to
Speaker 1: be kind of more grounded and kind of sweet in
Speaker 1: your general lives that you play this music that is like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is my impresident of Jonah's bands, Like
Speaker 1: you know, they go we go to the park and
Speaker 1: it's all the all day, the park will be there,
Speaker 1: you know, like and then you go, yes, hey, can
Speaker 1: I get does anyone need a coffee? That's not exactly it,
Speaker 1: but I'm generalizing here, but this is a real question.
Speaker 3: I have, Uh, Jeff take it away.
Speaker 4: So I just finished. The answer is I don't know.
Speaker 4: I haven't thought about that until like a week ago.
Speaker 4: I don't know if do you know Noel Wells? She
Speaker 4: she was on mass You No No well So Noel
Speaker 4: plays Kelsey on Craig of the Creek and we were
Speaker 4: recording the last song that we're going to record for
Speaker 4: the show, and we were talking about stuff and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this is fun. This is like rage therapy. People say
Speaker 4: you should do rage therapy. And I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess that's just kind of like being in a band.
Speaker 4: She's like, yeah, I guess that's kind of what you do.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 4: And I was like, huh. I never really considered it interesting.
Speaker 4: I guess, so I think with like lyrics and stuff like,
Speaker 4: that's the obvious one where like, yeah, I feel that
Speaker 4: I feel cathartic about it or whatever. But like, I
Speaker 4: don't know if that lends to my personality. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I would. I don't because truthfully, like I
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm a grumpy guy sometimes and I'm impatient
Speaker 4: pretty frequently, and like I try to be nice and
Speaker 4: kind to people, but like, I don't know, like anybody,
Speaker 4: my worst impulses get the best of me. Sometimes I
Speaker 4: try to be nice. But uh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it probably helps. The test would be I
Speaker 4: need to ask people if during twenty twenty if I
Speaker 4: was like a real piece of shit because I wasn't
Speaker 4: doing it, you know what I mean. It does definitely
Speaker 4: feel good to play in a band, and when I'm done,
Speaker 4: I'm like, who that was fun? I feel good, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? So, yeah, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 4: that is rage therapy, right, Jonah.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, this is something I kind of think about
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, because I work in the mental
Speaker 2: health field now also, and I do a lot of
Speaker 2: work around the intersection music and mental health. So I
Speaker 2: do think there is like a cathartic energy to playing
Speaker 2: aggressive music, Like I do think when you get up there,
Speaker 2: it is you know, and there's the energy of the audience.
Speaker 2: And I feel like my parts, like especially in you
Speaker 2: Our Nations, are kind of slow, like there's a lot
Speaker 2: of blast beats happening, and then I notice like my
Speaker 2: parts are kind of more like slow almost like this
Speaker 2: meditative feeling.
Speaker 3: So I do think so.
Speaker 2: But I think the other thing that you're hitting up
Speaker 2: and ess is like I think some of the people
Speaker 2: that might be intimidating looking to people a lot, like
Speaker 2: outside of the genre, like people with a lot of
Speaker 2: tattoos and piercings tend to be like the nicest people
Speaker 2: like you, you know what I mean. And I think
Speaker 2: maybe people they get judged in some ways because they
Speaker 2: don't present as like super you know, normative or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I think those people tend to be like so nice,
Speaker 2: Like even in like the you know, in the metal community,
Speaker 2: all these people like you talk to them and they're like, oh, hey,
Speaker 2: what's up, you know, So yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that has to do with like they're
Speaker 1: so comfortable expressing themselves that whether it be through like
Speaker 1: you know, getting a bunch of tattoos and piercings and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, or you know, Joe in this case
Speaker 1: in high school putting like peanut butter in their hair
Speaker 1: to have dreadlocks or whatever the thing.
Speaker 3: Is, peanut butter. Yeah, you got to work with what
Speaker 3: you got.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But like because they're because they're like you know, people
Speaker 1: that are really expressing themselves through any means, whether it
Speaker 1: be through music or their appearance or whatever. It's like,
Speaker 1: then they don't feel like the frustration of like I
Speaker 1: gotta express you know, I'm feeling like I'm holding in
Speaker 1: all of this self expression or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I mean also like I feel
Speaker 4: like I've slowly like been become okay, like being a
Speaker 4: sweet person. Like I think when you're growing up as
Speaker 4: a guy, you're conditioned to like be competitive and be
Speaker 4: aggressive and have this certain kind of like macho bullshit
Speaker 4: to you. And it took me a really long time
Speaker 4: to realize like I don't need to do that. And
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's connected with being in a band.
Speaker 4: I think that was just connected with being older and
Speaker 4: being like, oh I can actually be myself and I
Speaker 4: don't have to like do that shit, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah, Yeah, So I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: being in a band or if it's just getting older
Speaker 4: and being like, man, fuck, I think all that shit
Speaker 4: is stupid, and I'm not gonna I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I want to be like the person that I would
Speaker 4: like to be, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that's true, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the culture has changed, but I also think being in
Speaker 2: a band forces you to really like learn how to
Speaker 2: hopefully learn how to like communicate with people, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, you.
Speaker 4: Certainly haven't met like eighty five percent of people in bands.
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, And like, as I'm saying this,
Speaker 2: I'm like, but in an ideal world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea, you know, it forces you.
Speaker 2: The bands that we're friends with, yes, yes, all the
Speaker 2: bands that we know amazing and communication, Yes, they always
Speaker 2: on the same page.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, But yeah, I think I think there's something
Speaker 3: to all.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're right, Jeff, like getting older and sort
Speaker 2: of realizing the things that maybe like people you thought
Speaker 2: were important or that society said you were important. Like,
Speaker 2: you get older and sometimes you just like care about
Speaker 2: stuff least you're like, I don't need to act a
Speaker 2: certain way, like I can just do my thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And also I think as much as like the
Speaker 4: needle has like shifted towards like scary like right wing
Speaker 4: times in a lot of ways, Like I think younger
Speaker 4: people are more like open to expressing themselves however you
Speaker 4: want to express yourself. Yeah, I think that's fucking tight.
Speaker 4: I think like the future is moving in the right direction,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I guess this is a great
Speaker 1: time for us to take a commercial break.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should listen to it at.
Speaker 1: And we'll be and we'll be back with both of
Speaker 1: these little sweeties. If you ask their sisters, they've been
Speaker 1: not just as an adult, they've been sweeties for their
Speaker 1: whole lives. We'll be right back with Jeff Rosenstock, you know.
Speaker 1: And Jonah was who I was referencing right after the break.
Speaker 2: And we're back. So, Jeff, you sent a bunch of
Speaker 2: amazing topics over for us today.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The one we landed on, you know, is the price
Speaker 2: is right Obviously, Bob Barker sadly passed away recently, and
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 4: Not the judgment nights soundtrack Hunt.
Speaker 6: Well, I also do want to talk about the judgment
Speaker 6: that soundtrack familiar with this, but yeah it's not. Jeff,
Speaker 6: why did that topic kind of come to mind for you?
Speaker 6: Is that show you watched a lot as of kid?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I watched it a ton when I was
Speaker 4: a kid, And like, honestly, Bob Barker's passing didn't really
Speaker 4: even factor into it. Just like when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: Like I was just obsessed with game shows and Price
Speaker 4: Right is the game show, you know, And yeah, I
Speaker 4: like my first thought when I was a kids, like
Speaker 4: I want to be a game show host, Like like
Speaker 4: a I'd like an action figure that was called mister
Speaker 4: Game Show, I think, and like wow, you'd press a
Speaker 4: button on it and be like come on down or
Speaker 4: something like that. Like I was was like obsessed and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I would watch it whenever I could, you know,
Speaker 4: whenever I stayed home sick, I'd be like, just watch
Speaker 4: Prices Right Today.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Love Plinko, Planko, love Planko, love Matterhorn And uh, even
Speaker 4: though this is a nostalgia base, I think we have
Speaker 4: to admit that Drew Carry does a pretty good job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not as familiar with it. I haven't watched
Speaker 2: as much as Drew. What do you think you think
Speaker 2: he's he's doing Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I see it in hotels like I see
Speaker 4: it in hotels sometimes. Yeah yeah, And I'm like, you
Speaker 4: know what, I didn't. I couldn't possibly picture someone else
Speaker 4: in that role as good as you could do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he does good. He's fun. Yeah, very off the cuff,
Speaker 4: very much like, eh, what is this thing? Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: let's go. It's kind of a it's a different vibe.
Speaker 4: It's cool.
Speaker 2: Jew carries from Cleveland, our hometown, and yeah, hell ye.
Speaker 2: All I know about him is like people would be
Speaker 2: like I think I knew someone in the service indoor
Speaker 2: something is like Drew carry ordered a drink and then
Speaker 2: just like left a hundred dollar bill, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this guy seems pretty cool.
Speaker 1: He's very generous. You know, he's doing a thing now.
Speaker 1: At this point, the writers strike has been going on,
Speaker 1: you know, for over three months, maybe over close to
Speaker 1: four months, and there's two restaurants. There's Bob's Big Boy
Speaker 1: and a Swingers, and he writers can people in the
Speaker 1: Writers Guild can go eat there for free at any time, and.
Speaker 3: He just have to do. He pays for it.
Speaker 1: He pays for it.
Speaker 3: He has Wow.
Speaker 1: So like, if you're in the Writer's Guild and you
Speaker 1: show your card at either of those places in La
Speaker 1: he your food is free. It's paid for by Drew Carrick.
Speaker 4: How does that work with the door dash situation?
Speaker 3: Really, Vanessa? Can you order?
Speaker 4: God?
Speaker 3: I haven't tried.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a really good I may have.
Speaker 3: To end this.
Speaker 4: Did I just ruin this for all the writers? That's awesome?
Speaker 4: What a nice guy?
Speaker 1: So nice.
Speaker 4: Damn. That's what if you're if you become like ridiculous,
Speaker 4: like you're the fucking host of prices, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that kind of money, that's what you should do, help
Speaker 4: people out. So nice, it's so nice, nice guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would do that, Jeff, if you
Speaker 1: were the host of I.
Speaker 4: Would do that. Yeah. It's like the I mean this
Speaker 4: is like basically like the crux of the writers strike
Speaker 4: is the way that the money gets divided makes no
Speaker 4: fucking sense. It's completely unbalanced, and it's just like it's
Speaker 4: nice when someone who gets the other end of the
Speaker 4: imbalance is like, Okay, I'm going to try and shift
Speaker 4: some over here. Because the powers that be are not
Speaker 4: going to do that, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's amazing. So so yeah plinko. What were
Speaker 2: there any other games that were like matterhorn?
Speaker 4: I like the game with the car where you had
Speaker 4: like the five numbers, Yeah, and you had to like
Speaker 4: flip them around to make it the price of the
Speaker 4: car and then you won the car. That was always fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I.
Speaker 4: Always wanted to spin the wheel. Yeah, okay, you were
Speaker 4: saying in the intro you went, and does do they
Speaker 4: let everyone in the audience just spin the wheel one time?
Speaker 4: Like on the road.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened. Yeah, we were talking before the podcast.
Speaker 2: I was on the I wasn't a contestant, but I went.
Speaker 2: I did a semester.
Speaker 4: We're in the crowd.
Speaker 2: I was in the crowd, but my roommate I was
Speaker 2: in college. So I did a semester college in LA
Speaker 2: in like two thousand and two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: Somehow we went.
Speaker 2: My whole class, like the whole group of the LA
Speaker 2: program for my college went is maybe like ten maybe
Speaker 2: like fifteen kids matching shirts and we went. I don't
Speaker 2: think we had matching shirts, but a lot of people had.
Speaker 2: Like I went to Ithaca College. A lot of people
Speaker 2: had like itthic couldn't merch on, and we were basically
Speaker 2: like to really show you were in college. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: basically where like the odds are one of us is
Speaker 2: going to get picked.
Speaker 3: And then it turned out.
Speaker 1: Because because why jon't just I think.
Speaker 3: When you go with a big group, they tend to
Speaker 3: maybe pick one person, and.
Speaker 1: When you're from a specific group, I think like it's
Speaker 1: like we're all coming from this one college. Like it's like,
Speaker 1: oh great, let's take one of these college kids. That's
Speaker 1: like a fun thing.
Speaker 4: And they want people at Ithaca to keep watching the prices, right,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Right, Well here's here's what happened.
Speaker 2: Actually, the guy picking who gets on the show went
Speaker 2: was an ethical college person.
Speaker 1: The guy who gets on, Yes, So basically you get tickets.
Speaker 2: Or something and you're in line and this guy comes
Speaker 2: through and basically kind of interviews people as you're waiting,
Speaker 2: and he's a guy I guess picking who gets on.
Speaker 2: And my roommate Jay knew this guy because I think
Speaker 2: he was only like a few years older than us
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Somehow Jay knew him, and I was like total nemo
Speaker 2: baby yes, So so we do this interview. We're sitting
Speaker 2: there and you know, we have the name tags, like
Speaker 2: the big yellow name tags that look like the tickets
Speaker 2: and everything, and I don't know, at some point they
Speaker 2: call my roommate's name, and so we had a VHS
Speaker 2: of it. I'm in it because I'm sitting next to him.
Speaker 2: He runs down there, gets on bids on this projection TV.
Speaker 2: Do you remember those rear projection TVs. Sure, they were
Speaker 2: like huge, giant, giant backs. Yes, So he bids. He
Speaker 2: wins this projection TV. Gets to play a game and
Speaker 2: it's like almost like a mini golf putting game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't remember the name, but I know
Speaker 4: the game you were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a putting game or something. He's up
Speaker 2: for some kind of trip to Japan. Maybe it wasn't
Speaker 2: a putting I don't remember the game, but he's up
Speaker 2: for a trip to Japan. He loses, then he goes
Speaker 2: over on the wheel, but he gets a TV. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we get back to Ithaca and you can either
Speaker 2: keep the prize or you can forfeit it because you
Speaker 2: have to pay tax on it.
Speaker 4: When you forfeited, do you get the money or no.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's just like if you can't pay
Speaker 2: the tax on it, because probably if you get a
Speaker 2: car or something, you have to pay like thousands of
Speaker 2: dollars for it.
Speaker 3: Still, but they so sad the truth. I know.
Speaker 1: I know, peek behind the curtain and it's a bummer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn dog, Why you got to fuck us up
Speaker 4: with them?
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: But they paid for the shipping for free, and this
Speaker 3: TV must have cost so much to ship. So he
Speaker 3: paid a couple hundred bucks for the tax. And we
Speaker 3: had this really really gross apartment with this like four
Speaker 3: thousand dollars Riar protection TV in it, and I lived
Speaker 3: at for a couple of years, and every time we
Speaker 3: moved we had to like load this TV into like
Speaker 3: a flatbed truck. It took like three people to lift it.
Speaker 4: It was like, did you have to move it downstairs
Speaker 4: and stuff?
Speaker 2: No, luckily we were on the first floor. But it
Speaker 2: was like this TV was so big and heavy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he also got a signed Bob Barker picture cool
Speaker 2: and you know and all that stuff. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: was my experience. We got the TV and we had
Speaker 2: this like really nice TV for years and now for
Speaker 2: probably one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: You can get away better TV that you can carry yourself.
Speaker 4: That's raight. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, how like I feel
Speaker 4: like I've thought about going. I'll go at some point
Speaker 4: in my life. I really want to go. I want
Speaker 4: to go. See you should go, But like that like
Speaker 4: contestant interview beforehand seems really kind of terrifying to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think luckily I was only like twenty, so I
Speaker 2: like wasn't I was just like, oh whatever, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: but now as an adult I would be much more strategic.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think there was like there was a documentary about
Speaker 2: the prices right that came out a couple of years.
Speaker 3: Did you do either of you see that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I gotta see it.
Speaker 2: No, there's a guy who was like had figured out
Speaker 2: the price of everything and would like go to the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd shout step out and he would always be right
Speaker 2: and like it was Yeah it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, Jeff, were there any other shows
Speaker 2: that you were into? Other game shows?
Speaker 4: I really liked Press Your Luck? Oh yeah, loved the Whammie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What was it about those that as a kid was
Speaker 2: so appealing because it was a cartoon or I think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for like just thinking about even me right now,
Speaker 4: like cartoon flashing lights pretty chaotic, doesn't really seem to
Speaker 4: follow any sort of rules. Also, it felt it feels
Speaker 4: kind of like live television in a way where it's
Speaker 4: just like you get the impression that they don't reshoot
Speaker 4: anything on those things. They're just like blasting through like
Speaker 4: ten as fast as they can, and there's some chaos
Speaker 4: in that, which is really which maybe that's what I
Speaker 4: was drawn to when I was a kid, even if
Speaker 4: I didn't know it at the time, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So, like that show card Sharks, I was
Speaker 4: really into. Those are the ones I could I could
Speaker 4: remember specifically off the top of my head. And then
Speaker 4: when I got older, I was really into lingo, and
Speaker 4: I was really good at lingo. I could always get
Speaker 4: it before the contestants did. And then I was going
Speaker 4: to go and try and be a contestant, but I
Speaker 4: didn't do it, and then wordle happened, and I'm terrible
Speaker 4: at wordles, so I guess I lost lots of fire.
Speaker 4: Lost the fire.
Speaker 1: You know. We did a sketch on SNL once where
Speaker 1: we did a game show and it was sort.
Speaker 3: Of seeing happened kind of a lot, Vanessa, Huh, I
Speaker 3: guess we did.
Speaker 1: Game shows a lot. Okay, to be fair, we did
Speaker 1: game shows a lot, and I was often one of
Speaker 1: the people behind, like the little like one of the contestants.
Speaker 1: But one time we did this sketch where Maya Rudolph
Speaker 1: was the guest and it was Kristen and Maya Rudolph.
Speaker 1: They were playing like the prices, right women who like
Speaker 1: show off the prizes that people could potentially win, and
Speaker 1: Bill was the host and somehow I was like his
Speaker 1: assistant or something, or I don't or I guess no,
Speaker 1: I was the contestant. Either way, everybody broke in it
Speaker 1: because because Kristin and Maya got into this golf car
Speaker 1: little golf cart thing and they were like running through
Speaker 1: the set and stuff, and it like went so it
Speaker 1: would always go off the rails and rehearsals, but it
Speaker 1: went so off the rails live that everybody started laughing
Speaker 1: except for me, and Lauren told me that the only
Speaker 1: reason that sketch I've worked and didn't turn into complete
Speaker 1: garbage was because I didn't start laughing like everybody else.
Speaker 1: It was like one of those sketches where like truly
Speaker 1: everybody loses it and I was losing it too, but
Speaker 1: I was conscious of when the camera was on me,
Speaker 1: and to be fair, I had like the least to
Speaker 1: do in this sketch, so I was like sort of
Speaker 1: more safe than they were. But it was so fun
Speaker 1: And it was so funny because Kristin and Maya were
Speaker 1: just like like flasting through the set and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they were playing those like sort of prices right girls,
Speaker 1: and they were just couldn't like say anything, and Bill
Speaker 1: couldn't say anything like they just it was so funny.
Speaker 1: But I guess I saved the day. I guess is
Speaker 1: why I told that story.
Speaker 2: But it sounds like by being stoic, by being stowic, Well, Vanessa,
Speaker 2: you're pretty good at at not laughing.
Speaker 3: I mean that seems like that would be very difficult
Speaker 3: at times.
Speaker 1: I was on the show for seven seasons. I didn't break,
Speaker 1: and that's what we would call it. I didn't start
Speaker 1: laughing during a sketch until the last episode of my
Speaker 1: sixth season.
Speaker 4: Wow, damn, that's a good track record. Do you get
Speaker 4: in trouble if you break? Or are they just like that?
Speaker 1: The thing is don't you don't get in trouble but
Speaker 1: you are told not to. And I'm such a rule follower,
Speaker 1: and so I was always scared of starting to laugh.
Speaker 1: And also when I would watch the show as a kid, like,
Speaker 1: I think it's so funny when people would start laughing,
Speaker 1: but it's like, I feel like it's always the most
Speaker 1: funny if it feels like really genuine. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't. It has to be a situation where I
Speaker 1: literally can't help myself. And that's what ended up happening
Speaker 1: because Fred Armison was doing this really funny character and
Speaker 1: I didn't know the camera was going to be on
Speaker 1: me next. I had forgotten because I was so amused
Speaker 1: by him, and then I had a really long line
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get it together.
Speaker 4: That's got to be a crazy thing, because yeah, as
Speaker 4: a fan, when you watch SNL, like those moments are that,
Speaker 4: like they're fun, that's that's like my favorite shit when
Speaker 4: that happens. But if it happens all the time.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, then he sort of feels less genuine, I know.
Speaker 1: And that was always my fears. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be like laughing all the time. And
Speaker 1: be there, and also I don't want to get in trouble,
Speaker 1: you know, Like so I didn't do it for such
Speaker 1: a long time. I lasted. I wonder if that I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's a record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering do they have is that the
Speaker 4: record that seems six years seems like a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Yeah, I think it's a record.
Speaker 1: I think it's a record. It was well for it show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, You're welcome, thank.
Speaker 3: You so much. But yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing that's so memorable to me when I
Speaker 2: think about the prices, right, is Bob Barker's cameo and
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Great, all time great cameo, all.
Speaker 3: Time great cameo. Oh my gosh, what a cool guy
Speaker 3: that he would do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been I talked about this recently a vest
Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of early two thousands Adam
Speaker 2: Sandler movies recently, and there are some interesting There's a
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen the film Anger Management, Jeff.
Speaker 4: No, dude, should I This is like an area of
Speaker 4: Adam Sandler movies. I'm like, Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 4: I I don't know if I'm in here.
Speaker 3: That's how I was.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's kind of a weird scene, but there's
Speaker 2: there's like a Rudy Juliani cameo in Anger Management when
Speaker 2: he's like a hero. It's like mister Julia and it's
Speaker 2: there at a game and now you're watching, you're just like,
Speaker 2: oh man, what was with.
Speaker 4: Like comedy in the nineties and two thousands where we
Speaker 4: were like, hey, let's get Rudy Giuliani in face like
Speaker 4: he's such a like obvious piece of shit he was
Speaker 4: then he is now like what's he doing on seinfilm?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so crazy. Well, also, people really loved him.
Speaker 1: I mean like remember after nine to eleven not to
Speaker 1: when they did when they came back and did SNL.
Speaker 1: He was in the opening credits. They had like this
Speaker 1: choir sing and then they did like this really beautiful
Speaker 1: opening and then it's like such a great opening. Lauren
Speaker 1: says something to him like can we make people laugh again?
Speaker 1: Or something like that, and Rudy Giuliani says, why start now?
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because it's like, you know, classic burn.
Speaker 1: But it's also just like I feel like people thought
Speaker 1: he was so great and he has fallen so far
Speaker 1: in such a you know, we're not from New York,
Speaker 1: so I don't know how he was. Yeah, I guess not.
Speaker 1: I guess the reason I knew about him was because
Speaker 1: of unfortunately, because of nine to eleven, Like that's when
Speaker 1: New York, look, you know, politicians became more.
Speaker 4: Nationally fucking mayor, he wasn't the mayor anymore. So like
Speaker 4: the undercurrent of that is that a guy who was
Speaker 4: not the mayor was on TV being like, hey, I'm
Speaker 4: still the mayor kind of right, and he was using
Speaker 4: like a fucking giant tragedy to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he's a piece of shit. I thought he
Speaker 1: was mayor when all of that happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, right, he was kind of like,
Speaker 4: I'm still kind of the mayor. You're gonna kind of
Speaker 4: need me, right, Everybody in New York's like, we don't
Speaker 4: need any of you Bloomberg, Giuliani fuck yeah yeah, or
Speaker 4: I say everybody every other nineteen year old in New York.
Speaker 3: But it's true, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It also was like to that time in comedy movies,
Speaker 2: I felt like you had to have some kind of
Speaker 2: like cameo from someone like a straight guy yeah, someone famous,
Speaker 2: but not like super like some kind of weird area
Speaker 2: where it's like this, Yeah, I don't know all those films.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they still do it like Eminem and uh this
Speaker 4: is forty Oh yeah that's a weird cameo. Yep, yep,
Speaker 4: it's fun though.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's one of the people I was the most starstruck
Speaker 1: by on SNL was Eminem.
Speaker 4: I believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you think.
Speaker 1: You'd be so? I was so And one time I
Speaker 1: was walking off the stage and he helped me off
Speaker 1: the stage, like he put his hand out and he
Speaker 1: was like, here you go, sweetheart, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I guess I'm in love. Like he
Speaker 1: was so and I really I wanted to do all
Speaker 1: these stupid sketches with him and the producers just like
Speaker 1: he's not doing sketches this week. And I was like
Speaker 1: when he was just like the musical guest. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he was so cool and I was so starstruck by him.
Speaker 1: And yet when I was like a teenager and I
Speaker 1: would hear his music, I'd be like, ugh, I'd changed
Speaker 1: the channel too violent, you know, like.
Speaker 4: I didn't like his you didn't like his raps about
Speaker 4: abusing yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't like his REPSI yeah, but yet meeting him
Speaker 1: as an adult, I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can barely speak, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's an icon. Whatever you think about his music,
Speaker 4: he's an icon. I just remembered I went to SNL
Speaker 4: when I was kid. I went to a rehearsal one,
Speaker 4: not when I was a kid, when I was in
Speaker 4: college and Eminem was a musical guest. Wow it was.
Speaker 4: It was the Norm MacDonald eminem one. Wow, my god,
Speaker 4: where Norm McDonald did this? Did the speech where he
Speaker 4: was like, so I got fired from the show because
Speaker 4: I'm not funny enough, and now I'm hosting the show,
Speaker 4: So it is it because I got funnier. No, it's
Speaker 4: because the show's really bad now. And I was just
Speaker 4: like amazed. And I remember seeing Eminem like in that
Speaker 4: hallway to get to the studio, yes, writing piggyback on
Speaker 4: some cast member, and I.
Speaker 2: Was just like, my god, Wow, New York City, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, Wow.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: That what an incredible show you were at. That's so cool.
Speaker 3: Did you win the tickets in the lottery or was
Speaker 3: that the.
Speaker 4: My girlfriend at the times family member did something for someone.
Speaker 4: I really it's fucked up. I can't remember who got
Speaker 4: me those tickets. And if you're listening to this, you
Speaker 4: know you have a right to be mad at me.
Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, it sounds like you might be a bit
Speaker 3: of a nepo baby yourself.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, and it comes full sir.
Speaker 4: Yes, we all have nepo baby in us.
Speaker 1: I believe a little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 4: A little little tiny nepo baby ache it to get up.
Speaker 1: The other thing that just to bring it back really
Speaker 1: quickly to price is right. I think we would be
Speaker 1: remiss if we didn't mention the fact that Bob Barker
Speaker 1: at the end of every episode would say remember to
Speaker 1: spay and neuter you're yeah pets. And I always found
Speaker 1: that to be incredibly jarring, and I would always be like,
Speaker 1: what the hell. But now being an adult and having
Speaker 1: researched it, it's just because he was an animal lover
Speaker 1: and he didn't he you know, wanted people to responsibly.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just remember hearing that at the
Speaker 1: end of the episode and being like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is a kid?
Speaker 4: There was this cartoon I liked when I was a
Speaker 4: kid called two Stupid Dogs. I don't know if either
Speaker 4: if you remember this. No, the theme song is really
Speaker 4: good went two Stupid Dogs, Two Stupid Dogs, Two Stupid Dogs,
Speaker 4: and that was it, and there is hell yeah Olivia Olivia. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I remember there being an episode where they were
Speaker 4: watching the Prices, right and him saying to get your pets,
Speaker 4: Spade and Dooter, and then be like no, and and
Speaker 4: that forming an opinion for me that like you shouldn't
Speaker 4: spay and pats that, you know, getting older, and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's just trying to help. Yeah, he's simply using his
Speaker 4: platform to try to help.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like he has his platform and he's
Speaker 2: able to kind of shoehorn this like message that like
Speaker 2: he advocates for in the end, Like you don't really
Speaker 2: see that very much on like a show like that.
Speaker 4: It's pretty cool. No, No, I wonder if he had
Speaker 4: to fight for them.
Speaker 3: I bet you did. I bet you did.
Speaker 2: And then probably he became so integral a show they're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we have to this is just part of the deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if Pat say Jack at the end of
Speaker 1: at the end of Wheel Fortune was like, remember to
Speaker 1: you know, recycle, Yeah, remember to reuse, recycle, you.
Speaker 4: Know, you think he was bummed he didn't have a
Speaker 4: helpful sign off.
Speaker 1: He was just you know, I I wonder if he
Speaker 1: was like, I should say something at the end of
Speaker 1: Wheel Fortune, like what's and then he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: then people are going to think I'm copying Bob Barker,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like Pat Stage as just a
Speaker 1: Bob Barker wanted to be, you know, like I wonder
Speaker 1: if that was his internal monologue.
Speaker 2: He's still hosting it, yes, I think he's just announced
Speaker 2: recently he's retiring. Yes, oh shit, but yeah, he's hosted
Speaker 2: it for so and Vanna is still on it.
Speaker 4: Vanna looks insane for like, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's cool.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that she used to be a part
Speaker 1: of an infomercial for some kind of tooth whitening or toothpaste.
Speaker 1: I say all this to say I think it has
Speaker 1: to do with she has great oral hygiene, and I
Speaker 1: think she takes really good care of her I mean,
Speaker 1: you're right, it's incredible, But I do think I like.
Speaker 4: Her causes teeth Bob Barker.
Speaker 1: I do think that that's like a really important you know,
Speaker 1: people got to take care of their teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think Kat's a Jack was probably like,
Speaker 2: what kind of sports car am I going to buy
Speaker 2: this week?
Speaker 3: Or something?
Speaker 1: Do not please?
Speaker 4: He does, he's got the he's got the look. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably like, Bob Barker, you can take care
Speaker 1: of animals all you want, I'm gonna leave you in
Speaker 1: the dust in this Porsche car, this prior testerosa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, the contestant didn't win this car. I
Speaker 1: guess I'll just drive it off the lot because I'm
Speaker 1: pats a Jack is.
Speaker 4: That's how it works. The host gets the prices.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I think he gets I
Speaker 1: don't think he gets the prizes, but I think he
Speaker 1: gets like millions of dollars for every episode. So he's like,
Speaker 1: if I want these prizes, I'll buy him myself.
Speaker 4: They might offer him a choice.
Speaker 1: Do you want your paycheck this week?
Speaker 4: What happens to the fucking prizes?
Speaker 3: That's actually really good question.
Speaker 4: It's not like the car is on the next day.
Speaker 4: Like the car, it's always a new car.
Speaker 3: That's a really good point. Maybe they return, That's what
Speaker 3: I was going to say.
Speaker 1: Do you think they like get the they have like
Speaker 1: an agreement with all these different car This is actually
Speaker 1: a fascinating thing to look up, but like they have
Speaker 1: these agreements with these car companies that they're like, we
Speaker 1: want to borrow the car for the show, and then
Speaker 1: we'll give it back if the person doesn't win. If
Speaker 1: the person does win, we'll pay for it.
Speaker 4: And that's just the cost of the advertisement. So it's
Speaker 4: like a risk they take they might lose a car
Speaker 4: or advertising this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's true. Like it's free advertisement for
Speaker 1: the car kind of because they talk about how great
Speaker 1: the car is. So maybe they get the car every episode.
Speaker 1: Like the car is something that the show gets for
Speaker 1: free because they're advertising it. And if the contestn't doesn't
Speaker 1: win it, then somebody in the staff goes like, you know,
Speaker 1: like whose turn is it this week to get the car?
Speaker 2: Yeah, packets Dibbs, and then he says yes or no,
Speaker 2: and if he doesn't want it, then it probably goes
Speaker 2: down the ladder.
Speaker 3: It goes to Vanna, yeah, Vanna next, Yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Then eventually some intern is like, I can't pay taxes
Speaker 4: on this car.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 4: Pat's like sorry, and he goes away in his Ferrari
Speaker 4: Testarosa and like drives to a pet breeding site or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He drives past the set of the Price is Right,
Speaker 1: and he goes fuck you, throws.
Speaker 4: A bunch of dogs in heat onto the set of
Speaker 4: Prices Right, trying spades.
Speaker 1: And Bob yells at him from the set. Nothing feels
Speaker 1: as good as being a good person, and Pat speed
Speaker 1: speeds off so angry.
Speaker 4: God, you got me again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an incredible place to take a
Speaker 2: commercial break.
Speaker 4: I'd love to listen to another ad. Can we ken?
Speaker 4: We please?
Speaker 3: One more AD? One more ad? Only one more? Jeff please?
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: We'll be back with more Jeff rods and stuff. All right, Jeff, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're back. Now we're gonna play a quick game called
Speaker 2: Yes Stalgia Nostalgia, where we bring up a nostalgic products show, etc.
Speaker 2: That's making a comeback. If you're into them, you can
Speaker 2: give it a nostalgia yahstaal ja, And if you're not,
Speaker 2: you can give it a no stall no.
Speaker 4: No no no no no no no no nostalgia.
Speaker 2: So the first one, this one is close to my
Speaker 2: heart is Green Day is celebrating their thirtieth anniversary of
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety four album Dukie with this massive deluxe edition.
Speaker 3: Have you heard about this?
Speaker 4: I've heard about it, I haven't heard anything from it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's a six LP four CD box set which
Speaker 2: has the original album, ten previously unreleased Dukie four track demos,
Speaker 2: seven Doukie cassette demos, a collection of six Dukie outtakes,
Speaker 2: as well as their live a woodstock set, and there
Speaker 2: Live in Barcelona set from ninety four, and I believe
Speaker 2: there's a colored vinyl version. It comes with like a
Speaker 2: Doukie doggie bag and some others kind of small kind
Speaker 2: of trinkets. But Jeff, what are your thoughts on the
Speaker 2: thirtieth anniversary box set?
Speaker 4: Okay? I need to? Can I ask two questions you
Speaker 4: might not be able to answer, sure? What's the cost
Speaker 4: of the box set? And what are the tracks that
Speaker 4: are previously unreleased?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: So I know the cost because I've put it in
Speaker 2: my cart and then not checked out about fifteen times.
Speaker 2: So if you buy it, it's one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five dollars for the.
Speaker 4: Vinyl okay, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: But I found it as cheap as like one forty
Speaker 2: one fifty if you can find it on like a
Speaker 2: promo or find it on sale somewhere. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: know the exact track listing. I do know that like
Speaker 2: they released the dookie demos, you can listen to those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I'm curious of the new song if
Speaker 4: the songs, because they did the Nimrod re release right
Speaker 4: and had bonus songs, and those songs not that great,
Speaker 4: and I love Nimrods maybe my favorite green Day record
Speaker 4: at times. Nimrod is my like green Day record. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it kicks ass, but it's got like nineteen songs on it,
Speaker 4: so it's no surprise that like they're like, hey, we
Speaker 4: we found these other songs, Like, oh, I wonder why
Speaker 4: they didn't make it onto your nineteen song record where
Speaker 4: you let every song onto this record. I'm saying, Yesstalgia
Speaker 4: for one, I think one hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 4: for that box set sounds surprisingly reasonable for a band
Speaker 4: like Green Day. I would have expected somewhere above two
Speaker 4: hundred bucks. I'm like, Okay, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: spending that money. Sure, But also a cool thing about
Speaker 4: box sets coming out in twenty twenty three is that
Speaker 4: they're all on streaming services for free anyway, Right, so
Speaker 4: you don't really have to get the box set and
Speaker 4: I'll get to listen to the Dukie demos. That's cool. Yes,
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that stuff.
Speaker 3: You're excited. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It comes with a roll of Dukie doggie bags, a
Speaker 2: five button set, an air freshener, postcard, bumper sticker, magnet
Speaker 2: sheet paper, airplane, black and white coloring page, and a
Speaker 2: poster with alternate cover art.
Speaker 4: That's sick. What are those bonus tracks? It's gotta say
Speaker 4: it on.
Speaker 3: There, right, it's gotta say it on here?
Speaker 2: Oh wait here it is, Yes, bonus tracks, his demos,
Speaker 2: cassette demo. I don't know if there's actual live sets,
Speaker 2: and then it's there's outtakes, cassette demos, four track demos,
Speaker 2: no new songs. I don't know if there's any new
Speaker 2: songs nostalgia. I think it's more demos, outtakes and live stuff.
Speaker 2: It's the woodstock set and the live in Barcelona said.
Speaker 4: How many versions of it could you listen to in
Speaker 4: a row? Like, what do you do with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What do you do with that?
Speaker 3: Here's the other question.
Speaker 2: Who's buying the four CD set like that to me,
Speaker 2: you're either going to stream it for me or buy
Speaker 2: the ops.
Speaker 4: Someone with the car with a CD player. Yeah, whose
Speaker 4: CD book got stolen? Maybe yeah, maybe maybe someone. Maybe
Speaker 4: someone buys it for that person as a gift. I
Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe maybe for being on a podcast. I
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You have a CD player currently in your car? Hell,
Speaker 3: yeah you do.
Speaker 4: I got a car when I moved to LA and
Speaker 4: it's twenty sixteen, I think before because that's the last
Speaker 4: car I could get with a CD player.
Speaker 3: In Okay, So that was important.
Speaker 4: I think CDs are good. I think CDs are good,
Speaker 4: and also as a person selling music, CDs are making
Speaker 4: a mild come back at the time.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting.
Speaker 2: I have an issue because I have like three thousand
Speaker 2: CDs in my parents' basement and I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do with them because they take up a lot
Speaker 2: of space.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to get rid of them.
Speaker 4: Put them in like a catalog, put them in like books.
Speaker 4: Put them in books that'll shrink that down. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: you can recycle the plastic. Yeah, I don't know. Then
Speaker 4: you're still stuck with CDs, but it's better and you
Speaker 4: get to alphabetize. Who doesn't like doing that?
Speaker 2: No, I know, because before everyone's like, you should just
Speaker 2: get rid of them, they're worthless, And now it feels
Speaker 2: like now people are like, no, you should, CDs are
Speaker 2: actually good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, biggest mistake that's a stretch, but a big
Speaker 4: mistake I made in my life is that when I
Speaker 4: moved to LA I was like, we've had this DVD collection.
Speaker 4: We have only been watching things that I've torrented on
Speaker 4: my plex or that I am streaming for the entire
Speaker 4: time the nine years we've lived in Green Point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's fucking get rid of these DVDs. We don't need
Speaker 4: to move them out there. And I regret that all
Speaker 4: the time. Why do you regret it? Getting rid of
Speaker 4: physical media is a mistake. I think that like this
Speaker 4: shit was streaming because it's built on very shaky foundation,
Speaker 4: and holding onto your physical media is a very good
Speaker 4: idea because it's at least something you have, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when I took a nap in your
Speaker 1: room there were a lot of DVDs in there.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's why we got rid of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's tough, right, Yeah, because I think
Speaker 2: you're right about that.
Speaker 3: But it's also like.
Speaker 4: There's probably a stack of like uncased DVDs. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: several stacks just sitting there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Jeff's pro. I'm pro this also. I mean
Speaker 2: I saw a green Day on this tour. No, I'm no,
Speaker 2: I'm no, You're no, You're no because there's no bonus track.
Speaker 4: Give me one new song from the era.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I'm yes because, like I said,
Speaker 2: it's it's just reminds me of going that.
Speaker 3: This is a very formative tour for me.
Speaker 2: A show I saw them in Cleveland, Sam Am opened
Speaker 2: a Blossom Music Center ninety four. That's awesome, and it was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a great I took I talked about in
Speaker 2: the podcast. I took a limo there with friends. Our
Speaker 2: parents all rented us a limo because weren't old enough
Speaker 2: to drive. I don't know how this happened now I
Speaker 2: sound like another baby.
Speaker 1: Mom and dad to help pay for almas.
Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty or thirty bucks a person,
Speaker 2: and it was like five of my friends and they
Speaker 2: were like, there was a limo who drove us there,
Speaker 2: then parked, waited the whole show. Then we came out
Speaker 2: and I remember us like moshing in the limo to
Speaker 2: greet Dan the driver being like.
Speaker 1: Wait, do you guys have to stop? Do you remember
Speaker 1: which one of your friends spearheaded this?
Speaker 3: I believe it was.
Speaker 2: I believe it was, uh Lee Rollins, Maybe maybe Lee's mom, Okay,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so anyways, I'm with it. I agree with Jeff.
Speaker 2: The bonus stuff would be nice. I do feel like
Speaker 2: you're probably listening to like just seventeen versions of the
Speaker 2: same song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also maybe maybe I am with it. I
Speaker 4: don't know. It's on six different LPs. You don't have
Speaker 4: to listen to them all in the row. I am
Speaker 4: curious about that Woodstock ninety four, like what their mix
Speaker 4: sounds like, because I had a bootleg of that when
Speaker 4: I was a kid that I would listen to just
Speaker 4: all the fucking time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So so maybe Jeff's coming around on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it is on colored vinyl. They're all
Speaker 2: like different shades of brown vinyl that were there leaning
Speaker 2: into the So I'm pro and uh, you know, this
Speaker 2: would be a great birthday gift for me. Birthday's coming
Speaker 2: up later this month.
Speaker 4: I'm already trying to get it as a gift, So
Speaker 4: this is rude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Thank you, Vanessa. What are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on the Green Day Dookie box set?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm kind of pro it now that I know
Speaker 1: what you get for Hanukah.
Speaker 4: Yes, one LP for each night and then two nights
Speaker 4: of nothing.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think this is cool. I like that
Speaker 1: it has you know, to me, I like that it
Speaker 1: has so much like merch that comes with it. I
Speaker 1: think that's really cool that there's so many merch elements. Also,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they you know that. I think the
Speaker 1: thing that really I was a big fan of the
Speaker 1: Dukie album. I think I used to borrow it from you, Jonah,
Speaker 1: and you probably couldn't pay you for it. What is this, Jonah?
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've talked about this on here.
Speaker 1: Jonah let me like sometimes I would have to like
Speaker 1: buy stuff from Jonah. Not not really. The only time
Speaker 1: I can remember it, but it's related to this is
Speaker 1: Jonah had a disc man and he let me buy
Speaker 1: it from him for forty five dollars, which is a lot,
Speaker 1: and then he like took it back from like it
Speaker 1: would always be like in his room and I'd be
Speaker 1: like Jonah, I bought this from you. But anyway, the
Speaker 1: thing I think I had the Dukie CD or else
Speaker 1: I borrowed it from Jonah at a price. But remember
Speaker 1: how there was the hidden song at the end of
Speaker 1: the album about I was all by myself? That song, like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's some kind of amped up version
Speaker 1: of that or that was to me always so cool
Speaker 1: when there were those hidden songs at the end, and
Speaker 1: a similar one on uh never Mind the Elanus Morris
Speaker 1: at Oh never Mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 1: one I was talking about. Is there one of the
Speaker 1: more seconds, Yeah, oh there is. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: about that one. It was sort of similar to the
Speaker 1: one on Dukie. It was like about coming to someone's room.
Speaker 1: It was like I came to your room, looked at
Speaker 1: your CDs, oh somewhat you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 4: I remember this song, do you remember?
Speaker 1: And it was like, and I should be here something
Speaker 1: I usually sing more confidently on this podcast, but I
Speaker 1: just I don't have quite the memory recall it. But
Speaker 1: it was like there was It was really actually oddly
Speaker 1: similar to the bonus song on Dookie. But I wonder
Speaker 1: if they would kind of expand on that bonus Dookie
Speaker 1: song and I really love that album too, and I'm
Speaker 1: so I'm for it. It's a nostalgia for me.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, great, what's the next one, Vanessa?
Speaker 1: The next one is Wendy's Strawberry Frosty is back in
Speaker 1: time for summer. Originally launched in twenty twenty two, Wendy's
Speaker 1: pulled the flavor from their menu after a limited run. Sure,
Speaker 1: we got the peppermint frosty during the holiday season and
Speaker 1: that was festive, But the warmer months, a lighter, fruity
Speaker 1: frosty will hit the spot.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Jeff, So Yeah, So it's replacing the vanilla
Speaker 2: frosty our dad has. If you've listened to the podcast
Speaker 2: with Our Dad, he has a special Frosty card where
Speaker 2: he gets a free frosty.
Speaker 1: I wonder how he feels about that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Jeff, what are your thoughts on a
Speaker 3: strawberry frosty.
Speaker 4: Well, my thoughts on strawberry ice cream is that it
Speaker 4: is one of the most underrated ice cream flavors. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a very good flavor.
Speaker 1: Guys are so similar.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know that I've ever had a
Speaker 4: strawberry Frosty, though, Yeah, I will say I don't understand
Speaker 4: why it has to displace another Frosty. True, Wendy's has
Speaker 4: the money get another machine in there for a seasonal flavor. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what I think. Dave Thomas trying to keep it
Speaker 4: all for himself instead of give the people three flavors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a regular Frostle's chocolate? Is that like the standard
Speaker 2: Frosty flavor?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 2: I always just thought about Frosty as like its own
Speaker 2: thing that wasn't even a flavor. It was just this
Speaker 2: is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a very light chocolate.
Speaker 2: I feel like, Yeah, And so I think there's something
Speaker 2: kind of nice about like sometimes I feel there's just
Speaker 2: like too many options with stuff now. It's like sometimes
Speaker 2: it's nice to not have too many. But I also
Speaker 2: agree with you, Jeff, I do think.
Speaker 4: Three is three too many.
Speaker 3: Three is not too many. I guess.
Speaker 2: I just feel like you go buy a bag of
Speaker 2: chips and it's like ten thousand bags of chips and
Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know, I don't know. Sometimes it
Speaker 2: feels like like too much for me. But I do
Speaker 2: agree strawberry underrated as a flavor. The other flavor I
Speaker 2: feel underrated is coffee ice cream.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but coffee ice cream house caffeine, and it does it.
Speaker 2: It's made of coffee, I know, but like is it real?
Speaker 2: Maybe these decaf or something coffee ice cream? Oh?
Speaker 4: I wish they made fuck a decaf coffee ice cream.
Speaker 4: Then I could eat it at night time and feel
Speaker 4: like a bat boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so so yeah, I'm for a strawberry frosty.
Speaker 2: I've never had one. I don't think. I think it
Speaker 2: would probably be very sweet.
Speaker 4: So I feel like with the frosty, at least, what
Speaker 4: I would do is I would dip my fries in
Speaker 4: the frosty.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a classic move.
Speaker 4: And how would that go with strawberry? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is not. Well, oh no, oh no,
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion.
Speaker 4: Do you not like strawberry ice cream?
Speaker 1: Well, we'll get to me last I can tell you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Vanessa, let's let's get into it now. Look.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I want to take this opportunity
Speaker 1: to say to our many listeners who got excited about
Speaker 1: our when our dad was the guest on our podcast
Speaker 1: and talked about how he got this Frosty card that
Speaker 1: allows you to pay two dollars for charity and then
Speaker 1: you get a free Mini Frosty with every purchase. I
Speaker 1: have friends who went to Wendy's to get that card,
Speaker 1: and oddly that deal you could only get that card
Speaker 1: in the month of February. Really wow, So our dad
Speaker 1: thought that, like he got you get it for the year.
Speaker 1: So I think he was thinking, like, oh, I should
Speaker 1: have gone in January and then I would have gotten
Speaker 1: one more month of free Mini Frosty's. Come to find out,
Speaker 1: February was the only month they were offering that, so
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll offer it again when February rolls around again.
Speaker 1: But I really apologize for anybody who went to Wendy's
Speaker 1: to get that Frosty's Mini card and be real charitable
Speaker 1: like our dad and give two dollars for it. So anyways,
Speaker 1: but I will say this, Jonah's always been way more
Speaker 1: into a strawberry ice cream than me. I like chocolate
Speaker 1: and I like vanilla. I like chocolate more, but there's
Speaker 1: just no I'm never looking for a fruity ice cream.
Speaker 1: Are really dessert in general? Sure, there's sometimes I like
Speaker 1: them if they're forced on me. But I generally, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm getting a frosty, I'm getting chocolate.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you de frize in it? Yeah? Can you? Is
Speaker 1: it delicious? Yeah? Like why mess? I think the chocolate
Speaker 1: frosty I've never even I didn't even know vanilla frosty's existed.
Speaker 1: Now I'll come to hear they're being replaced by strawberry
Speaker 1: frosts for a limited time. I'm going, what plant an
Speaker 1: eye on? But at the same time, I'd say this
Speaker 1: is a nostalgia for me. Jonah, what would you.
Speaker 3: Say nostalgia for me? Yeah, I've talked about it. I
Speaker 3: like Starberry.
Speaker 4: I'll say, I'll say yestalgia. I don't remember the past
Speaker 4: version of it, but but I'm excited for the present
Speaker 4: version of it.
Speaker 1: It's so sweet that you're both like sweeties who play
Speaker 1: punk music and then would want strawberry Frosty's.
Speaker 4: I feel like my ultimate cold treat dessert is like
Speaker 4: rainbow Sherbert or like an Italian ice or something too.
Speaker 4: So it's all very like, Ooh, that's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's incredible. I'm like, give me double chocolate
Speaker 1: ice cream brownie cookie too.
Speaker 2: Thick too much. It's too much, not for me, all right.
Speaker 2: The last one. Jeff is Fender has announced the long
Speaker 2: arrayed return of the time Delaune Stratocaster and this is
Speaker 2: I guess it's making a comeback in time for Blinks
Speaker 2: reunion tour and their latest album. It's got a Seymour dunky.
Speaker 4: I gotta look up this thing, hold on, yeah, look
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 1: This is celebrating the Blink one eighty two guitarist and
Speaker 1: singer's iconic career and sound.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's got a c neeck jumbo friends sound yeap
Speaker 2: vintage tuners, It's got original artwork on the neck plate
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's if you look it up.
Speaker 4: It comes in like so selling fast underneath the price
Speaker 4: tag of thirteen one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Selling fast for thirteen hundred. It comes in these kind
Speaker 2: of like pasteli colors. Is like a blue green, yellow rosewood. So, so, Jeff,
Speaker 2: what do you think about this guitar? Is this something
Speaker 2: you think you would play?
Speaker 3: Not really? What are your thoughts? You?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I would want a guitar that
Speaker 4: only has a bridge pick up on it.
Speaker 3: And yeah that's tough.
Speaker 4: I don't think I would want to pay thirteen hundred
Speaker 4: dollars to sound like Tom DeLong.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Fair.
Speaker 4: I do like the colors though, the colors that colors
Speaker 4: are good.
Speaker 3: It is weird.
Speaker 2: Just having a bridge pickup does feel that is kind
Speaker 2: of a weird move.
Speaker 4: I mean it works for a lot of people like there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: When I was in high school and early college, I
Speaker 4: worked at a recording studio in Long Island and they
Speaker 4: would always tell all the bands they had to put
Speaker 4: their guitars on the bridge pickup or else the guitars
Speaker 4: would sound bad. And then a band came in to
Speaker 4: record and they're like, well, we like the neck pickups.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, they told me you're supposed
Speaker 4: to only put on the bridge and they were like,
Speaker 4: but this is how we like it. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: fuck it, let's do it. And then I got fired.
Speaker 3: Wow that is some serious tone policing.
Speaker 4: There was some tone policing. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've always been, you know, like Les
Speaker 2: Paul into the Orange or Marshall, just like very traditional.
Speaker 3: Sure, and I like that.
Speaker 2: It's also probably why I have bad posture because I
Speaker 2: played like the world's heaviest guitars and I'm like hunched
Speaker 2: over with them. But yeah, this would be tough for me.
Speaker 2: I do think the colors are cool. I saw guns
Speaker 2: and roses the other night and Duff McKagan to me
Speaker 2: was like the one of the coolest looking people ever.
Speaker 2: And I've been researching his signature Fender base, the one
Speaker 2: without the pickard, and I kind of want that. I
Speaker 2: do like the idea sometimes of signature instruments.
Speaker 4: That's interesting because I was thinking, like, I don't know
Speaker 4: about a signature instrument, like if you're in a band
Speaker 4: or you're like, hey and look I'm doing the tom
Speaker 4: a long thing, you know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean, right right, right, Well, I think it's weird, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's tough. Mkagan bass is sick,
Speaker 2: though the deaf mcagan bassis is sick. I mean also
Speaker 2: ANESSO great present for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's only fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know Jack Antonov, I remember who We
Speaker 2: did a podcast with him and he was playing like
Speaker 2: a Frank Yaro signature guitar just because he liked the guitar,
Speaker 2: and to me, that was really cool. I think it
Speaker 2: it can work if it's not too on the nose.
Speaker 2: If you're in a band that sounds like blink, I
Speaker 2: feel like you can't just get the timed long guitar.
Speaker 2: But if you're in a different kind of band and
Speaker 2: you're like this guitar actually, like I like the neck,
Speaker 2: I think then it's it's okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you For a while you would see
Speaker 4: a lot of people playing that j Mascus guitar like
Speaker 4: it's like a white jazz master with a gold pickguard,
Speaker 4: and it was just.
Speaker 3: Because it was cheap and good, right right.
Speaker 4: I think the cheapness is like like the price having
Speaker 4: a low price on like a signature thing. That's the
Speaker 4: move because you're like trying to look at fans who
Speaker 4: are likely young and don't have a lot of money
Speaker 4: and trying to get them into playing music and stuff,
Speaker 4: which I think is cool. But I think charge a
Speaker 4: thirteen hundred dollars for a tommed long guitar. As much
Speaker 4: as I like Fender, as much as I appreciate their instruments.
Speaker 2: Yes, has I would ever come and said we're interested
Speaker 2: in doing a Jeff Rosenstock Sender sure guitar.
Speaker 4: No, we we I have a Fender rep. But I've
Speaker 4: been like, hey, should do a signature guitar and I
Speaker 4: don't get a reply to that email.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. What
Speaker 2: would your signature?
Speaker 4: What would it be?
Speaker 3: What would it be?
Speaker 4: It would there are a few things. The tuning heads
Speaker 4: would have to be able to stay in tune. It
Speaker 4: would have to be like rustproof, so if you sweat
Speaker 4: a lot like I do, it just like smart. It
Speaker 4: would just like whatever it could be that it's cheap
Speaker 4: and doesn't break. I don't care about the body shape.
Speaker 4: I don't care about like the rest of it, as
Speaker 4: long as it's cheap, stays in tune, doesn't break, has
Speaker 4: a wambi bar, everything else they could decide fair enough.
Speaker 5: Don't know.
Speaker 1: What would your signature guitar be?
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 3: Light? Lightweight?
Speaker 2: You know after your last fall? Yeah, the opposite, I like,
Speaker 2: I like the shape less. Yeah, just light, I'd like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: stays in tune. I'd want a couple of humbuckers on it,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, just simple, just simple, simple and light.
Speaker 4: Vanessa, what would your signature guitar? Yeah, Vanessa, what.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just have a bridge pick up, That's right. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you think that's all, I'll do then and charge
Speaker 1: searteen hundred dollars for a bridge pickup. I go, what
Speaker 1: about picking up the other kind of roads and cars
Speaker 1: and things on the street. I'm going, no, thank you
Speaker 1: to the get Okay, but no, that would be It
Speaker 1: would probably be pretty flashy looking and.
Speaker 3: Maybe some sparkles or something.
Speaker 1: Always some sparkles, and you know, be it would stay
Speaker 1: in tune as well. That's why I would want that.
Speaker 3: Too, right, So basically just what Jeff said.
Speaker 4: But yeah, well no, actually I would want what Vanessa
Speaker 4: said too, to be honest with you, I'd like some
Speaker 4: sparkles on those guitars. So yeah, co signature guitar. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: maybe that'll get better luck of getting one if I get,
Speaker 4: you know, some more people on it.
Speaker 2: That would be so incredible. If it was like Fender
Speaker 2: announces the jeffro.
Speaker 4: Vanessa beer guitar. Yeah, come on, Fender, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Let's do it, Fender.
Speaker 1: It's like sparkly flowers all over it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, this is a guitar I've been trying
Speaker 4: to get for a while. It's like just rainbow, lightning bolt,
Speaker 4: like spider veins and stuff on it. This is what
Speaker 4: the guitar I would want it to look like. I'm
Speaker 4: dropping it in the chat right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 4: That'd be sick, right.
Speaker 1: It's like leopard print, yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also like barbed wire.
Speaker 1: That's really cool.
Speaker 2: I think the marketing for this Jeff ros and Stack
Speaker 2: pens a Berkato could be like, whether you're like a
Speaker 2: very accomplished guitar player or have never really picked up
Speaker 2: a guitar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a perfect guitar for you.
Speaker 4: Which one of us is the very accomplished guitar player?
Speaker 3: That Jeff? That's you?
Speaker 4: Come on, where's my guitar? Huh?
Speaker 1: That's right?
Speaker 3: Hm?
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 4: Oh it's on my mantle.
Speaker 3: So Vanessa, what are you saying to the Tom Delawn guitar.
Speaker 1: Well, based on my limited knowledge of this kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: but in the bridge pickup things, I say no because
Speaker 1: it feels like it doesn't it feels Jonah, was your
Speaker 1: what do you say?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's I think it'd be
Speaker 2: cool to have around the house. Yeah, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'll say I'll give you nostalgia to it.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: But but I understand the pick up the pickup issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to give it actually, like a right
Speaker 1: down the middle nostalgia. Okay, because I don't feel strongly
Speaker 1: about it, but I hear what you're both saying, and
Speaker 1: I think you both have really good points.
Speaker 4: I'm going with the with a strong yes. So whatever's
Speaker 4: left of my Fender.
Speaker 5: Deal after everyone's saying yes, we're saying yes, we're saying yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 5: and give us all this rainbow guitar.
Speaker 3: Yes, please, come on.
Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love them to be
Speaker 1: a sponsor. But if at the very least to give
Speaker 1: us this rainbow guitar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we can all share one, all right.
Speaker 2: So I think we're on the same page. That's a
Speaker 2: nostalgia and a shout out to Fender and so Jeff, Yeah,
Speaker 2: where can people find out more about you? About your tour,
Speaker 2: dase helmode, all that stuff. What's the best way to
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 4: You could go to Hellmoe dot biz. You could go
Speaker 4: to Jeff rosenstock dot com. I have a digital record
Speaker 4: label where all the music is free. Or you could
Speaker 4: donate money to the artists or in our case to
Speaker 4: a charity. Hellode's up on there right now. With all
Speaker 4: the money from my thing, which is got to be clear,
Speaker 4: not that much money is going to the Entertainment Community
Speaker 4: Fund to support people who are on strike now to
Speaker 4: try and like you know, get your fucking money because
Speaker 4: Harry want to take it all. And like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not very articulate when speaking about it, but like
Speaker 4: it's really ridiculous that terms have not been met yet
Speaker 4: and it's just people trying to to bleed their workers
Speaker 4: dry and it's fucked up. So anyway, all that money's
Speaker 4: going there. But if you go to quote unquote records,
Speaker 4: you can download a whole bunch of stuff and you
Speaker 4: could type in my name and find me on social
Speaker 4: media and I will be there screaming shit into the void. Incredible,
Speaker 4: you say, regrettable?
Speaker 1: No, I said incredible, Oh, no, incredible, incredible, but regrettably.
Speaker 1: This podcast is over, and we'd like to thank Jeff
Speaker 1: so much for joining us, and to everyone for listening.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Jeff Hey, thanks so much for having us.
Speaker 4: This is a really nice time.
Speaker 5: They don't believe to before
Speaker 6: That, for Hallowenson,