Speaker 1: Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club is old.
Speaker 2: Wait got the Breakfast Club Envy and Charlomagne the voice
Speaker 2: of the culture.
Speaker 1: You then, I'm gonna come here when this thing see
Speaker 1: y'all different, y'all the coach, it's different.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Like y'all know what y'all talk.
Speaker 4: This is probably becoming the most prominent form for here.
Speaker 5: Probably be here next to all of you guys. It's
Speaker 5: really put.
Speaker 6: It in perspective to the breakfast club bitches.
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Speaker 1: Charlomagne, the god Peace to the planet. Guess what day
Speaker 1: it is? Guess what day it is?
Speaker 2: Yes, So we have our special guest, long La Rosa,
Speaker 2: hanging out with us this morning.
Speaker 5: She is Good morning, Lauren, Good morning everybody. I'm back.
Speaker 1: How y'all feel today? Man?
Speaker 5: I feel great?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel blessed, black and holly favored.
Speaker 6: Ready to serve on this fine Wednesday morning, Ready to
Speaker 6: serve the beautiful listeners this club.
Speaker 1: What's happening alright? Like my candles yet?
Speaker 5: Damn Kerry's flipping with the candles.
Speaker 2: No, Kerrie Washington will be joining us this morning. She
Speaker 2: has a new book called Thicker than Water. We'll be
Speaker 2: chopping it up with her in a little bit on
Speaker 2: Kerry Washington gonna be joining uhing I didn't say that
Speaker 2: you could tell him?
Speaker 1: I heard you, all right? Why you asked me? Jesus Christ?
Speaker 6: All right, making a conversation. I mean, that's what the
Speaker 6: radio show is all about.
Speaker 2: Let's get this show crack in. Today's Little Wayne's birthday.
Speaker 2: So can we start to make the show off with
Speaker 2: some liw Wayne?
Speaker 1: Can we pull up some little Wayne?
Speaker 8: It is amazing how you ride now and you realize,
Speaker 8: you know, he is the culture before his birthday.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 6: You was in here doing a versus with Nihla getting
Speaker 6: bodied flew to fifty. We love fifty. He's an icon
Speaker 6: as well. But we told you that Wayne was the guy. Now,
Speaker 6: now all of a sudden, you want to be all
Speaker 6: over Wayne.
Speaker 2: Every time that you want to play his You know what,
Speaker 2: shchik Daddy's Birthda pull up trick Daddy.
Speaker 1: Now now you're talking about another legend.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that both their birthdays, we say put
Speaker 2: both their songs.
Speaker 5: And feel for Wayne.
Speaker 8: Every time you take your birthday you should drop a
Speaker 8: reason why he's iconic too. This is not I just
Speaker 8: have never in my life. The one, the one person
Speaker 8: people don't argue is Wayne. You were the only person
Speaker 8: I've ever heard in my life. It's only thirty one years,
Speaker 8: but I mean, he is your favorite. He's not my
Speaker 8: favorite rapper, but like I would never say that he's
Speaker 8: not iconic in that, I just.
Speaker 1: Say he was ic.
Speaker 6: You don't have to be your favorite rapper in order
Speaker 6: for you to be objective and say he's top five
Speaker 6: that are alive and if we're being a real objective
Speaker 6: top three lyric.
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite rapper?
Speaker 8: I figured with Eminem x eminem, Oh you angry already
Speaker 8: this word box.
Speaker 1: It's six. I'm not gonna it.
Speaker 5: Is it is.
Speaker 8: We're not carrying that that that.
Speaker 6: If to day Lil Wayne and Trick Daddy boyn Day.
Speaker 6: You know t I had a born day this week,
Speaker 6: so we were really prepared. We'd be playing stand up
Speaker 6: featuring Little John, Trick Daddy and Lil Wayne. That's off
Speaker 6: the urban legend, I'm classic classic record. Now you know
Speaker 6: we're not to have prepared. What record we got classic class?
Speaker 6: We got a easy record?
Speaker 1: Which one we doing? Millie? Let's do a million? Of course,
Speaker 1: y'a a million. Let's still a MILLI of course y'all.
Speaker 9: Will do it. Mili.
Speaker 5: Why y'all doing this one? Because tell usself was dancing
Speaker 5: to it. I just can't a man.
Speaker 2: Let's get the show cracking. It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning,
Speaker 2: front Paysons, Next Morning, everybody. It's dj n V, Charlemagne
Speaker 2: the Goud. We are the Breakfast Club. We got our
Speaker 2: special guest co host Laura la Rossa with us, and
Speaker 2: let's get in some front page news.
Speaker 10: Good Morning Morning, Breakfast Club Family, dj m V, Lauren
Speaker 10: and Charlemagne the God Morning.
Speaker 2: Now let's jump right into it. Donald Trump, Now they're
Speaker 2: saying he's liable for fraud.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that's what they are saying, meaning the judge.
Speaker 10: Let's listen to the report by ABC and then I'll
Speaker 10: come back and we'll break down the details.
Speaker 7: A judge in New York hash determined former president and
Speaker 7: Trump committed stem fraud, lying for years about his net
Speaker 7: worth by inflating the value of his real estate portfolio.
Speaker 7: The fraud was so overwhelming the judge decided there was
Speaker 7: no need for him to even hear evidence or testimony
Speaker 7: at a civil trial set to begin next month. The
Speaker 7: judge found Trump inflated the value of his Fifth Avenue
Speaker 7: apartment in Trump Tower by as much as two hundred
Speaker 7: million dollars by claiming it was triple its actual size.
Speaker 7: Trump said marl Lago was worth up to six hundred
Speaker 7: million dollars, when the judge said the Palm Beach estate's
Speaker 7: assessed value was no more than twenty seven million. The judge,
Speaker 7: agreeing with New York Attorney General Letitia James, Trump overstated
Speaker 7: his net worth by as much as two point two
Speaker 7: billion dollars, duping banks, insurance companies, and other business partners
Speaker 7: into giving Trump, his eldest sons and their family real
Speaker 7: estate business better terms than deserved.
Speaker 5: That's the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know stuff like that was up to judge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know you have to go
Speaker 1: to trial.
Speaker 6: I didn't know stuff like that was up to the
Speaker 6: person who owns the property. I thought, you don't have
Speaker 6: people come out and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Apparently it looked like it might even be some conspiracy
Speaker 10: going on. Because again, yeah, somebody has to do the
Speaker 10: appraisal U. But he was able to get a praise
Speaker 10: for more and that's the whole thing, the whole fried piece.
Speaker 11: So yeah, so we forgot about this civil case. A
Speaker 11: lot of folks keep talking about.
Speaker 10: Remember there's still four indictments of January sixth, the Georgia election,
Speaker 10: the classify documents, the hush money, and then this is
Speaker 10: the civil case.
Speaker 2: I'm very confused for two reasons. One, I didn't know
Speaker 2: you didn't. I thought that everybody had a fair trial
Speaker 2: or a chance at a fair trial, because it just sae,
Speaker 2: we ain't even going to trial.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that.
Speaker 11: Well, this is a civil case. So a judge, Yeah,
Speaker 11: so this was a civil.
Speaker 1: Case case and you don't have to go to trial.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the if this was so overwhelming that it wasn't
Speaker 10: any point of the trial. So with the trial, so
Speaker 10: what's gonna happen on Monday or next week if you will, Uh,
Speaker 10: the they will decide what the fee will be. So
Speaker 10: there with two hundred and fifty million dollars, so the
Speaker 10: trial technically was really won't be a trial. It would
Speaker 10: just be determined the penalties. In addition to that, the George.
Speaker 10: The judge ordered that his business licenses basically be rescinded
Speaker 10: as punishment, making it difficult or almost impossible for him
Speaker 10: to do business in New York. They also want to
Speaker 10: continue to monitor the Trump organizations operations, which may cause
Speaker 10: him to sell some of his some of his buildings,
Speaker 10: and of course his attorneys have said they will appeal.
Speaker 11: So your civil is different than criminal.
Speaker 10: But you know, you've seen judges even make decisions in
Speaker 10: criminal cases as well, so it's not unheard of.
Speaker 8: You know how many people like black people, brown people,
Speaker 8: live in certain areas where even if you get appraisals,
Speaker 8: they still will fight you on the value of your
Speaker 8: property to try and make it less of course, and
Speaker 8: he can just inflate it like that.
Speaker 5: That's why had that privilege.
Speaker 6: That's why it's so interesting because once again, I didn't
Speaker 6: know you was a property on a good duw your
Speaker 6: own appraisals. I thought, you know, there was a lot
Speaker 6: of checks and balances that go with that.
Speaker 2: Well, anytime I've ever purchased a solar home, like the
Speaker 2: bank orders an appraisal, it's not they don't listen to
Speaker 2: what I said. I can't you know, you have appraisal
Speaker 2: comes out that you don't know that Usually the bank
Speaker 2: picks the bank cause.
Speaker 1: In orders the appraisal.
Speaker 2: It's their people that coming in and assess the crib
Speaker 2: and assessed the evaluation and properties next door and what
Speaker 2: recently sold and the size of your house and what's
Speaker 2: in it. And that's how the usually get the appraisal.
Speaker 2: I've never been able. They never called me like, hey,
Speaker 2: what's the.
Speaker 6: Praise, even like you just said, even when you purchasing
Speaker 6: a property, I'll send my own appraiser out there right
Speaker 6: to make sure that I'm you know.
Speaker 1: Whatever they what I should.
Speaker 3: Be paying right.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. That's this is a strange.
Speaker 5: One's surprised.
Speaker 1: Strange.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it makes you wonder well Donald Trump, ever, you know,
Speaker 6: win another court case in this country ever again, or
Speaker 6: even get.
Speaker 1: A fair shake. I don't. I don't know. But will
Speaker 1: it matter because he's still high opposed.
Speaker 5: One thing the people do is stick behind that man.
Speaker 6: But I do feel like the Republican Party needed to
Speaker 6: move away from Donald Trump, and I feel like the Democratic.
Speaker 1: Party need to move away from Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: But hey, what.
Speaker 5: Though, where we're gonna move to?
Speaker 1: The say move? I ain't talking about like physically move now.
Speaker 8: I'm away, I know, but I'm saying you gotta put it.
Speaker 8: You gotta put a person there for us.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Republicans got quite a few.
Speaker 6: You'll see them tonight debating Democrat adventures weak but you know.
Speaker 11: And just to bring you, excuse me, just a liver
Speaker 11: bit of clarity.
Speaker 10: His ruling, which comes in the phase of a case
Speaker 10: known as a summary judgment, resolves the key claim in
Speaker 10: this case. So this was decided to be a non
Speaker 10: jury trial that starts on next week as well, you know,
Speaker 10: just to determine the determine how much he could possibly
Speaker 10: own penalty. So it was set up that way, all right,
Speaker 10: which can happen in the civil case. All right, well,
Speaker 10: lat Is front page News. Get it off your chests
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Speaker 1: Up right now.
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club, right
Speaker 2: right right, yo, char.
Speaker 5: Are we lost?
Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 1: I got to indoor pool. We want to hear from
Speaker 1: you on the breakfast club on.
Speaker 12: The phone, right now here tell.
Speaker 1: Us what it is. Hello, who's this?
Speaker 13: Hey, good morning Breakfast club.
Speaker 1: This is Prince Prince. What I'm doing good?
Speaker 13: I'm doing good.
Speaker 12: I want to say hello to Charlotmagne, DJ MVY and
Speaker 12: your guest.
Speaker 1: Host Laura la Rossa Lauren Rosa.
Speaker 14: Hey, anyway, I'm calling because I want to know how
Speaker 14: come you all and.
Speaker 12: Tesla TOI garow and never talk about the supposed migrant
Speaker 12: issue up there in New York.
Speaker 1: We've discussed it many times, many times discussed.
Speaker 2: Many times, and the problems and what the man is
Speaker 2: trying to do and in the situations we've definitely reported.
Speaker 1: We literally talked about it.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was this week or last week,
Speaker 6: and we were saying, how it's a shame that you know,
Speaker 6: you have veterans in this country, you know, who are homeless,
Speaker 6: don't have room in board, but you know they will
Speaker 6: make accommodations for the migrants.
Speaker 1: Immediately we just were.
Speaker 2: Talking about they were taking money from the different budgets
Speaker 2: that that these kids need to help the migrant and
Speaker 2: now some of these programs they won't have money for.
Speaker 1: We've definitely been talking about it, and I apologize us.
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I mustn't.
Speaker 12: For a long time listening.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 12: I've lived that, all right, you all have a great
Speaker 12: one night.
Speaker 1: All right? Hello?
Speaker 12: Who's this yo?
Speaker 13: Breakfast club was good? It's Mitch Man from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Mitch from Atlanta?
Speaker 15: What up?
Speaker 1: Get it off your chest?
Speaker 13: What envy? What us? Charloe?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 13: I don't know who the guest.
Speaker 1: Laurre Laos this morning lawn was good.
Speaker 13: I'm doing great, nah Man, I'm just feeling good this morning.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 13: It's we done made a halfway through a week.
Speaker 14: I normally struggle with getting up in the mornings, but
Speaker 14: I'm feeling good this morning.
Speaker 13: We made it to day, you know. And I just
Speaker 13: wanted to call y'all. Tell y'all I love y'all.
Speaker 14: Man, I appreciate your The world appreciates her, uh and
Speaker 14: everything y'all do, getting us stuff every morning, and.
Speaker 1: We love we love you too. We're here to be
Speaker 1: of service. Mitch. I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Did life get hard for you after the.
Speaker 6: Real husbands of Hollywood when they said a bitch was
Speaker 6: a Mitch was a male bitch?
Speaker 13: Damn uh hey, searl Man, that don't a part of me. Man,
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. I got my name from
Speaker 13: mast Tofferent money making.
Speaker 1: Mitch, money making, mich got you got you got.
Speaker 14: Money making, miss. I'm not here making money right now,
Speaker 14: money making miss. And I just want to say too
Speaker 14: for y'all. Let me go shout out to all the
Speaker 14: single full time fathers out there too. I'm one myself,
Speaker 14: and I know the scenario is normally switched, but we're
Speaker 14: out here.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying, we outside.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that brother.
Speaker 13: I love that I got an eight year old prince man.
Speaker 13: I'm raising him every day. We got a soccer game
Speaker 13: this Saturday. Let's go Atlanta Dutch Lions.
Speaker 6: Good luck, Broluther, Atlanta Dutch Lines. I love that for you.
Speaker 6: Can you hear that?
Speaker 1: You hear that?
Speaker 5: Are you yelling at me?
Speaker 1: Talking to you?
Speaker 15: Lauren?
Speaker 1: At you?
Speaker 5: I thought we did you like your Polly? What is it?
Speaker 1: I'm just happy for that. That young man.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, he's a proud single father
Speaker 6: out here raising his young father, black father Luther. That
Speaker 6: man out here the find all stereotypes. You hear me
Speaker 6: being of service?
Speaker 2: Get it off your chest. Eight hundred and five eighty
Speaker 2: five one oh five is something. Now it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: This morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to
Speaker 2: get it off your chest? Eight hundred five eight five
Speaker 2: five one. You want to hear from you on the
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club?
Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?
Speaker 9: Good morning?
Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Mama, get it off your chest?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so this is James for.
Speaker 6: Mom's corner, Big Monk's Baby.
Speaker 1: What's happening.
Speaker 9: I wanted to know, you know, how you're having your
Speaker 9: mental health export uh huh in New York. I wanted
Speaker 9: to know have you ever thought about like taking that
Speaker 9: on the road and like, you know how like MVY
Speaker 9: does his car shows the different cities, maybe taking yours
Speaker 9: on the road because you know, some people can't get
Speaker 9: to New York and it's extensively to get to New York.
Speaker 9: So like, you know, taking it around.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's other events that are happening. You know,
Speaker 6: it's like Shanty Dodds is doing things. But yeah, there's
Speaker 6: definitely something that we're thinking about.
Speaker 1: You know, we just had in South Carolina, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: We just had the Low Country Mental Health Conference in Charleston.
Speaker 6: It was a July twenty fourth to the twenty sixth.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you were, you were in attendance
Speaker 6: for that, but we just had that in Charleston, South
Speaker 6: Carolina's Luthrough my Man mad Tech mad Tech lin Berg.
Speaker 16: Wow.
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I wasn't uman and I didn't even know
Speaker 9: about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know about it until I spoke to
Speaker 6: mad Tech over the summer and that's when that's when
Speaker 6: I decided.
Speaker 1: To get involved. But yeah, they do that every year
Speaker 1: in South Carolina.
Speaker 6: But no, you're right, the mental health factpot is something
Speaker 6: that we probably do need to take on the road.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll keep that up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, So I just wanted to put that. I
Speaker 9: thought about that when you were talking about it one
Speaker 9: day and I was like, you know what, Charlaine ever
Speaker 9: thought about that? But thank you for doing that, because
Speaker 9: mental health is real and people don't talk about it enough.
Speaker 9: And I work in social work. I'm a social worker,
Speaker 9: and you know there's something we see a lot in
Speaker 9: the school.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we're trying to that's that's one of one
Speaker 6: of the pillars that my foundation, the Mental Wealth Alliance,
Speaker 6: wants to do. We want to get social emotional learning
Speaker 6: and all schools kindergarten through twelfth grade.
Speaker 9: Because definitely, thank you, thank you so much, thank you,
Speaker 9: thank you for all y'all.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Saturday, October seventh, Man the Mental Health Expert with Day
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Speaker 1: It is a free.
Speaker 6: Event, all right, So I see y'all Saturday, Ontober seventh.
Speaker 1: Hello, who's this Charlie?
Speaker 17: I mean he was going on a date with October seven.
Speaker 1: Trap. You got to cut it up. You know I'm
Speaker 1: a married man, sir, Yes, he's a married man. Trap.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Luston guy.
Speaker 8: I've been waiting to be here when you call. I
Speaker 8: always hear you call in. I've never been here when.
Speaker 13: You dance the cowboys on his giants.
Speaker 12: So you have to forgive him.
Speaker 5: You know he likes y'all.
Speaker 1: Did last weekend? No drive asking for a friend? How
Speaker 1: y'all did last week we didn't play y'all? How y'all
Speaker 1: did last weekend? We didn't play these weekend?
Speaker 17: Okay, okay, anyway, y'all, I'm calling about Philadelphia. If y'all
Speaker 17: kids are out here in the street, y'all, need to
Speaker 17: get them, because I don't understand y'all know how Philadelphia
Speaker 17: cops work.
Speaker 13: They will beat y'all kids.
Speaker 17: They would do.
Speaker 13: Anything in the world do y'all kids. So he took
Speaker 13: and feeling we didn't come get them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I didn't understand, trav Man.
Speaker 6: I saw like all of those looters, you know, running
Speaker 6: into the stores, and then I saw the cops pull
Speaker 6: up and the cops jump on them. And then everybody
Speaker 6: starts screaming at the cops to not jump on them.
Speaker 6: What are the cops supposed to do in that situation?
Speaker 13: And that was I don't say anything.
Speaker 17: The fim Adeptian cops already stretched because it's the murders
Speaker 17: and Philadelphia already dealing with us killing killing each other
Speaker 17: repeatedly out here, so they already high stressed anxiety. They
Speaker 17: didn't not playing no games with our kids. Get our
Speaker 17: kids up the street.
Speaker 2: And I also thought that the Apple store. I thought
Speaker 2: that the play phones were were fake, that you couldn't
Speaker 2: really use you I thought you could only use them
Speaker 2: in the store. I didn't think that you could put
Speaker 2: anything on them and you actually use them. And and why.
Speaker 1: Would they stay from Lulu mellan.
Speaker 8: I think that they were just like doing whatever because
Speaker 8: people are upset right now.
Speaker 17: I don't want to get that they have a reason
Speaker 17: to be upset, you.
Speaker 1: Now, I was, I was really thinking that.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what do y'all expect the cops to do
Speaker 6: in this situation like this?
Speaker 1: Like people started calling recalling the policef record the belief,
Speaker 1: no recall them.
Speaker 8: I think the issue is that people are comparing it
Speaker 8: to when like the Phillies win or the Phillies the
Speaker 8: Eagles win or lose, and like they flip cars and
Speaker 8: they go crazy and Philly and you literally will see
Speaker 8: the cops just standing and kind of waiting until things
Speaker 8: summer down to get involved. And then you got the
Speaker 8: loot in and they come in, and you know that
Speaker 8: that whole comparison. Of course, they grab a video up
Speaker 8: like the white people downtown going crazy over the Eagles
Speaker 8: and he's got these young black and brown kids running
Speaker 8: these stores because they're upset and police coming in like quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm tired of y'all. What about it? I think
Speaker 1: y'all would about it. It was a ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Really you mad at the looters?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would be mad at the looterers. I'm a business owner.
Speaker 1: If I'm a business owner, wouldn'tant nobody running up in
Speaker 1: my business.
Speaker 2: Closes like seven targets taking product exactly, people targets. And
Speaker 2: when I have money, the one hall them they closing too,
Speaker 2: because the people are just stealing.
Speaker 8: See, it's different if you're going to somewhere and stealing
Speaker 8: versus like, for instance, I wouldn't have known about this
Speaker 8: Eddie Azarry, the man that was killed by the cop,
Speaker 8: if the looting didn't happen got killed. No, So that
Speaker 8: we're gonna talk about it in rumors to day. But
Speaker 8: the background of this is there was a young man's
Speaker 8: twenty seven years old. He was killed by a cop.
Speaker 1: Breaking down in rumors, yeah, I'll break it down.
Speaker 8: But basically, I feel like I understand why they're upset
Speaker 8: and it's bringing attention. I feel bad for the business owners.
Speaker 8: I'm a business owner too, But I mean, y'all gotta
Speaker 8: buy by some rules.
Speaker 5: Of the people.
Speaker 8: You talked about the public people, the public servants serving
Speaker 8: the people.
Speaker 5: That's the issue right now.
Speaker 6: I'm confused. You gotta got get into I don't know
Speaker 6: what's going on no more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But and I was gonna say that the problem
Speaker 2: with all these stores is shutting down, Like you know,
Speaker 2: targeting Harlem is now if people want to go shopping,
Speaker 2: where can they go because now they can't go locally anymore.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to travel, take buses and cat taxi,
Speaker 2: gas rebuild.
Speaker 8: They getting too much money in that in that that
Speaker 8: downtown area right now. But I think it's it's a
Speaker 8: different situation. But we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: And our lots specific now I'm not talking about the ocean.
Speaker 1: You'll know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Are lots specific meaning that are they saying, oh, we're
Speaker 6: not targeting that store because like like I.
Speaker 5: Mean, they did Lulu Lemon. You you shot there.
Speaker 1: That don't make it right you, I'm not. I can't
Speaker 1: ride with that.
Speaker 6: That don't make We're gonna talk about it when we
Speaker 6: come to the same people with that same managery will
Speaker 6: do the same thing New York store.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when we come back. Rumors on
Speaker 1: the way it's the breakfast Club. Good morning. The breakfast
Speaker 1: club said you look for thirty two. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he said you look good for thirty two. Tailor my homegirls.
Speaker 5: The agency is crazy.
Speaker 1: Morning, everybody. We are to Breakfast Lauren. Let's jump. This
Speaker 1: is a toxic place. I've been here.
Speaker 18: From this, I think a lot of people will recognize
Speaker 18: the boys to the name.
Speaker 1: On the breakfast club. Lauren came in hot so.
Speaker 8: Last night there was a bunch of riding that took
Speaker 8: place in Center City, Philadelphia. Large crowds of juveniles looted
Speaker 8: multiple stores, including Lula Lemon, an apple store, a foot
Speaker 8: locker in Center City uh now. An acting police Commissioner,
Speaker 8: John Stanford said that the looting has nothing to do
Speaker 8: with the peaceful protest that took place earlier after charges
Speaker 8: were dismissed against an officer who shot and killed a
Speaker 8: twenty seven year old man named Eddie Arazari. Stanford also
Speaker 8: said that the police have made fifteen to twenty arrests
Speaker 8: so they aren't in so far. Two firearms have been recovered,
Speaker 8: but they aren't sure if they're connected to the looting.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 8: There have been over one hundred juveniles and young adults
Speaker 8: that were involved, but at this time police are not
Speaker 8: sure how many businesses were affected. There are videos going
Speaker 8: so viral online right now with all these kids people
Speaker 8: running into these stores, police hopping on them. People are
Speaker 8: recording the police. It's it's just a lot going on
Speaker 8: in Philadelphia right now.
Speaker 6: I knew nothing about the peaceful protests, and I knew
Speaker 6: nothing about the cops killing that brother.
Speaker 5: Was his name, Eddie Arazari.
Speaker 6: I knew nothing about that. So when I saw this video,
Speaker 6: I just thought it was a bunch of kids looting.
Speaker 2: Right because we've been seeing it all some along that
Speaker 2: they've been looting everywhere, you know, Louis Vuittan and Macy's and.
Speaker 5: Then trying to find the Louis Vitan store looters.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Gucci. We've been seeing Chanel like they've
Speaker 2: been looting a lot recently. That's what I thought it
Speaker 2: was too.
Speaker 6: I didn't, and I will say, if that is their
Speaker 6: response to the brother getting killed, these people need guidance,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Because if this is their
Speaker 6: response to those cops getting off, then they need to
Speaker 6: get with real activists who actually do this work and
Speaker 6: figure out a way to protest, to bring attention to
Speaker 6: the actual issue, because running up in foot locker, Apple
Speaker 6: and Lululemon is not raising away and to what actually happened.
Speaker 6: Because I didn't know any of this until you told
Speaker 6: me Lauri.
Speaker 8: Well, I think that that's a really good point. I
Speaker 8: didn't know any of this either, and I'm from Delaware.
Speaker 8: I've been back and forth between LA and Delaware over
Speaker 8: these last couple months. A lot didn't know that any
Speaker 8: of this was happening until the looting happened. This happened
Speaker 8: on August fourteenth, that is when Officer Mark Dile and
Speaker 8: his partner wanted patrol and they came across Eddie Irazari
Speaker 8: and the shooting happened. Right So from August until now,
Speaker 8: it's what October September October.
Speaker 1: This is almost October, September thirty seventh, there have.
Speaker 8: Been peaceful protests happening all the way from Puerto Rico
Speaker 8: to Philadelphia. So we were having a conversation in here
Speaker 8: earlier about if looting is effective and why, like why
Speaker 8: take this shout?
Speaker 6: Well, I think running up in someone's place of business
Speaker 6: and looting is whack rioting because you are fed up
Speaker 6: over cop killing us. I'm not mad at riots of
Speaker 6: the language and unheard, but this is not a riot
Speaker 6: to me. It sounds like niggas just want of iPhones
Speaker 6: and tights.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 6: Only the only way I could, wow, the only way
Speaker 6: I could say anything like looting is justified is if
Speaker 6: they are stealing food or medicine. But Footlocker, Apple products
Speaker 6: and Lulu Lemon Man f that like nah Yeah. And
Speaker 6: when Trap said earlier, you know trave who calls all
Speaker 6: the time, I would say, if you have kids out there,
Speaker 6: make sure you know where your kids are and you
Speaker 6: watch your kids.
Speaker 2: And the reason for that is, Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 2: to see any other kid get hurt. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say the kid you know coming out of a
Speaker 2: store looting and police attack them and your child dies
Speaker 2: and your child gets hurt. I'm with Charlamagne when it
Speaker 2: comes to this thing. I don't I don't have a
Speaker 2: problem with with with protesting. I don't have a problem
Speaker 2: with with doing things with we need, But the fact
Speaker 2: that you guys are grabbing tights it's my phones just
Speaker 2: seems little wad.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If y'all were telling me that, y'all was like I said,
Speaker 1: if y'all was hungry.
Speaker 6: Grabbing food, grabbing food is grabbing medicine, I understand you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. Inflation, the sky high things crazy,
Speaker 6: y'all here, But foot Locker, Apple products and Lulu Lemon
Speaker 6: may please.
Speaker 8: Well, we have a report from six ABC just to
Speaker 8: give some more contexts on what went down.
Speaker 19: This is cellphone video police making arrests at the Lulu
Speaker 19: Lemon on Walnut Street. Authorities investigating reports that a caravan
Speaker 19: of vehicles moved around the city with followers jumping into
Speaker 19: the lawlessness. The looting started shortly before eight pm nine
Speaker 19: to one. Will calls started coming in about a large group,
Speaker 19: possibly as many as one hundred, moving through center city.
Speaker 19: Around eight pm, cell phone video shows a group of
Speaker 19: people taking merchandise out of a Chestnut Street foot locker.
Speaker 19: A number of juveniles got away, but police say at
Speaker 19: least one adult was arrested. Within fifteen minutes. More looting report,
Speaker 19: this time at Lululemon. You could see the piles of
Speaker 19: clothing on the floor. Around eight to fifteen, the Apple
Speaker 19: store on Walnut was hit. Phones and tablets taken, though
Speaker 19: police say some of the goods have since been recovered.
Speaker 19: As of midnight, police say at least fifteen to twenty
Speaker 19: people were arrested, two weapons were recovered, and one police
Speaker 19: vehicle sustained damage. Please say the looting had nothing to
Speaker 19: do with the earlier peaceful protests after a judge just
Speaker 19: in his charges against a police officer fatally shot Eddie Irazari.
Speaker 6: Stealing types from Lulu Lemon and then going to foot
Speaker 6: locker to get matches sneak because they've been waiting to
Speaker 6: run up in Lulu Lemit.
Speaker 1: It's expensively, it's all that stuff.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna go for, you might as well go
Speaker 5: for what you've been waiting for.
Speaker 1: But yes, but what are you going for? Is the point?
Speaker 5: So this is okay.
Speaker 8: So I wanted to play that report because one of
Speaker 8: the important things that I said and that we hear
Speaker 8: in that report is that the police are saying that
Speaker 8: they do not believe that this looting is connected to
Speaker 8: the police officer Mark Dial being let go on all
Speaker 8: charges for shooting him in six times following what they
Speaker 8: believe was just like a police stop. Now we have
Speaker 8: the actual body cam from the police officer that shot
Speaker 8: the twenty seven year old gentleman Eddie Irazari, and I
Speaker 8: want you guys to listen to this and then we'll
Speaker 8: get into what you're going there for.
Speaker 20: Coming down the street and he starts flying in the
Speaker 20: bike lane. Thanks it up bles moren so I come over.
Speaker 1: I'm like this, he's.
Speaker 15: Driving a home.
Speaker 1: As soon as I make the right he starts taking
Speaker 1: off again.
Speaker 20: He probably he came down whatever street this is here.
Speaker 20: I'm trying to come over, and I said that answer
Speaker 20: the twenty fifth out anything. As soon as I make
Speaker 20: this laugh, that's the wrong way. I see a car here,
Speaker 20: I see him park up.
Speaker 1: As we parked up, we got out. Dude started. Dude
Speaker 1: pulled out a knife.
Speaker 20: So as we as we pulled up, there starts freaking out,
Speaker 20: pulls out a knife. I understand, we're not could I
Speaker 20: tried to get this door but I couldn't.
Speaker 1: So, like I said, we as I pull up, she
Speaker 1: starts freaking out.
Speaker 12: We get out.
Speaker 20: More comes on the driver side.
Speaker 1: I'm over here. I try to your door, but I can't.
Speaker 1: He pulls out knife.
Speaker 15: I talk like Mark.
Speaker 20: Mark, he's got nice in life, as I guess he like.
Speaker 20: I couldn't really see because I looked up in margin,
Speaker 20: you know, I saw his body come.
Speaker 1: Up like this, and then Mark fired.
Speaker 8: So after this body cam this is the partner of
Speaker 8: the officer who shot Eddie. To correct that, but after
Speaker 8: this bodycam was released, police then did a press conference
Speaker 8: and in that press conference, they said that not only
Speaker 8: was there a knife found, but they said that Eddie
Speaker 8: actually got out of the car and lunched at police officers.
Speaker 5: Now when when that happened.
Speaker 8: A neighbor had a camera in addition to this body
Speaker 8: cam that they gave to the family, and that was
Speaker 8: released and in that video you see, yes, police walk
Speaker 8: up to the car, but Eddie never gets out of
Speaker 8: the car. There were knives found in the car, but
Speaker 8: he never gets out of the car and the shoots,
Speaker 8: the shots happened. You really can't see the interaction between
Speaker 8: Eddie and the police officer, but you just hear the
Speaker 8: shots go off right and then he's killed in the car.
Speaker 8: So people were upset. There was an officer that exchanged
Speaker 8: what like six bullets into a man who was sitting
Speaker 8: in a car, and he's completely let off on all charges.
Speaker 8: People are upset, and I think that people have a
Speaker 8: right to be upset.
Speaker 1: Absolute Yeah, But I.
Speaker 6: Don't believe this looting had anything to do with that situation.
Speaker 6: And if it did, once again, these folks need guidance
Speaker 6: because that energy that they are using the run up
Speaker 6: in these stores can be used for something more productive.
Speaker 6: That brings actual awareness to the situation because I had
Speaker 6: no idea about this case or the officer getting off.
Speaker 6: And I still don't know what running up in Lulu
Speaker 6: Limmon got to do with anything, but.
Speaker 8: You're talking about it right now though, because of the
Speaker 8: running up in Lululemon.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: But I think if Luton wasn't so so huge nowadays,
Speaker 2: because they've been looting everywhere recently, and then you know,
Speaker 2: in Philly, in New York, like they're just doing it again.
Speaker 2: What I've seen it, I didn't know what, like you said,
Speaker 2: it had anything to attach to it. I just seen
Speaker 2: it happening again. I just heard that they did something
Speaker 2: in Long Island and Long Island more. I think they
Speaker 2: got Mount Clair again, like I've been seeing it so much,
Speaker 2: you know, all right, But I.
Speaker 6: Want these people to get with real activists who actually
Speaker 6: do the work and figure out a way to protest.
Speaker 8: They want the activists they want. They They're asking for
Speaker 8: a lot of people to get involved, and I think
Speaker 8: that this will help too. They can get some structure
Speaker 8: down there, some of the people that we trust in.
Speaker 8: Hopefully something happens else get hurt.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's my whole, especially those young juveniles, because
Speaker 6: all we see right now is niggas with new iPhones
Speaker 6: and tights.
Speaker 1: Okay you want some little limit tights. No, it's too expensive.
Speaker 1: People cheap fashion would never go.
Speaker 5: About fashion over you know here sexy bread.
Speaker 1: She I do it all right.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we got front page news with
Speaker 2: Testling figure Row and then Kerry Washington and be joining us.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Your
Speaker 1: mornings will never be the same morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody is dj Envy, Charlemagne the guy. We are the
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. We got our special guest host La La Rosa,
Speaker 2: and let's get in some front page news.
Speaker 1: What up, teas we's going on?
Speaker 10: Dj Envy, Good morning, Lauren, Good morning Charlottagne the God.
Speaker 2: Now let's jump right into it. Biden, he joins the
Speaker 2: picket line.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he went yesterday, or historic to have a president
Speaker 10: actually joined the picket line. He went on Tuesday and
Speaker 10: alongside the United Auto Workers in Michigan. He grabbed his
Speaker 10: megaphone and encouraged the workers to hold the line. Let's
Speaker 10: listen to the report.
Speaker 21: Wearing a union ball cap and armed with a bullhorn.
Speaker 21: President in bit and told the striking United Auto Workers
Speaker 21: to keep fighting for higher wages.
Speaker 22: So let's keep going your what you heard and you've
Speaker 22: hearn a hell of a lot boards.
Speaker 1: You're getting paid now.
Speaker 21: With President Biden, who exchanged fist bumps with the workers,
Speaker 21: the historic visit to the picket line was personal and political.
Speaker 21: Under you're scoring a long career backing labor.
Speaker 22: To have the President of the United States walk the
Speaker 22: picket line and supportive workers, that's huge.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, yeah, big deal. I'm glad you know that
Speaker 11: he went out there. The White House.
Speaker 10: They said that he was not going to get into
Speaker 10: the negotiations, but President Biden did weigh in on it.
Speaker 10: A reporter asked him if they should get a forty
Speaker 10: percent pay increase. The President said, yes, they should be
Speaker 10: able to bargain for that. Now we're talked about this
Speaker 10: a little bit yesterday. Former President Donald Trump will be
Speaker 10: there today. He has accused President Biden of only visiting
Speaker 10: because he is visiting. He actually made a statement that
Speaker 10: said Crooked Joe should be ashamed to show his face
Speaker 10: before these hardworking Americans that he's stabbing in the back.
Speaker 10: He said, well, Biden, it doesn't matter what the hourly rage,
Speaker 10: hourly wage is because in three years there'll be no
Speaker 10: autoworkers because of China.
Speaker 6: Dam well. I mean, it's definitely political for both of them.
Speaker 6: Like I said yesterday, majority of Americans agree with the strike,
Speaker 6: so you know, them going out there and standing with
Speaker 6: the workers.
Speaker 1: They both on the right side of history.
Speaker 11: Riding with Tim Scott. He's on one or that another.
Speaker 6: Everybody but Tim Scott. But I don't care, man, I'm
Speaker 6: still sticking to the fact that I think Republicans should
Speaker 6: move away from Donald Trump and Democrats would move away
Speaker 6: from Joe Biden. Those two are not the best. You're
Speaker 6: not gonna tell me those two are the best of America.
Speaker 6: Have to off No, not at all.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, but they're not offering anybody else up, so
Speaker 10: what do they do. They're definitely not offering anybody else
Speaker 10: up on the Democrats side.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: I feel like we're gonna find ourselves in a position
Speaker 6: next year to where neither one of them may be
Speaker 6: around old age.
Speaker 1: Literally, I don't know. I just I just I just
Speaker 1: feel that way. I just feel like.
Speaker 6: There's gonna be something where neither one of them are
Speaker 6: gonna be in this in the mix, and I think
Speaker 6: it's gonna happen in the bottom of the knife in
Speaker 6: it, and everybody's gonna be scrambling to figure out what the
Speaker 6: hell to do. I just feel that, Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 6: nervous that Biden is gonna be like, what's the congressman
Speaker 6: that that every once in a while he just zones out,
Speaker 6: And I feel like Biden's gonna be that.
Speaker 1: In a little being in a little bit.
Speaker 15: He like that.
Speaker 1: Now they both like that. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? What you meaning a little bit? Well,
Speaker 1: he ain't zoned out. He just fell down a couple
Speaker 1: of times. You mean, like ms McConnell.
Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, he's zoned out a couple of times. You
Speaker 2: shoogar a couple of people's hands that weren't dead. But
Speaker 2: he ain't zoned out yet.
Speaker 1: Well J J J J.
Speaker 11: Cool that.
Speaker 10: Boy.
Speaker 1: Good. Now to talk about religious very spiritual?
Speaker 10: Yeah, a quick question are you guys, let me ask
Speaker 10: a quick poe. Are you religion religious or spiritual? Which
Speaker 10: one envy?
Speaker 1: Spiritual?
Speaker 6: I would, oh, one hundred percent spiritual. I've been I've
Speaker 6: been figured that out about myself.
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, this was a Good poll, eighty two percent
Speaker 10: say that they are religious, spiritual, or both. Eighteen percent
Speaker 10: of folks say that they are neither spiritual or religious
Speaker 10: up to not that's of nine percent in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 10: The percentage also says that the religion is went down
Speaker 10: to fifty four percent. Now, the decline in Americans identifying
Speaker 10: as religious is consistent with trends for other polls. Now,
Speaker 10: what I thought I found this about this really interesting
Speaker 10: is they even put this into party politics. They said
Speaker 10: that among the party group, sixty one percent of Republicans
Speaker 10: are most likely to identify what religion, which is where
Speaker 10: you get a lot of those strict, you know, strict
Speaker 10: things like abortion or marriage against sex marriage, while sixty
Speaker 10: eight percent say twenty eight percent I'm sorry, say that
Speaker 10: they are spiritual. More Independents say that they're religious than spiritual,
Speaker 10: and Democrats say they are equally about spiritual a spiritual
Speaker 10: forty one percent and religious thirty seven percent. So interesting, poet,
Speaker 10: I found just kind of want to see where you guys,
Speaker 10: you know, landed on that. So the bottom line is
Speaker 10: the religion is going down and spirit being spiritual is
Speaker 10: going up.
Speaker 1: What do you learn religious?
Speaker 8: I would say I'm in the middle because I just
Speaker 8: looked it up. At first, I said spiritual, but I
Speaker 8: feel like I'm a little bit of both of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I grew up very religious because my grandmother was a
Speaker 6: Baptist and my mother's a Jehovah witness, and then you know,
Speaker 6: my father's study Islam. But I think as I got older,
Speaker 6: I just grew more spiritual because I wasn't tied to
Speaker 6: any one religious brightness.
Speaker 8: I'm tired to certain religious practices for the same reasons
Speaker 8: of like my upbringing. But there's certain stuff that I
Speaker 8: was taught with my upbringing that now i'd be like
Speaker 8: question a little bit. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 8: if I believe that, or even if I believe that,
Speaker 8: I'm not living by that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, See, I grew up Baptist, but then I went
Speaker 2: to Catholic school all my life, so it was always
Speaker 2: a left right and like similar to what you said,
Speaker 2: you start seeing things that make you question things. Say,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna take a couple of steps
Speaker 2: back and I'll have my own relationship even.
Speaker 6: Question in the Bible, Like you know, when they tell
Speaker 6: you things like Adam was the first man he was
Speaker 6: the first woman. Then they had Cain and Abel Cain
Speaker 6: killed Able, but then Kane went off and found a wife.
Speaker 8: How see, I like, just hear you question the Bible,
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh my God, call me and give me
Speaker 8: a year quiet.
Speaker 6: I got to ask your questions. I don't want to
Speaker 6: know how if there's only four people on the planet.
Speaker 1: But then if you ask questions, they get upset with
Speaker 1: you asking questions.
Speaker 8: That's right because I think people have blind faith in things,
Speaker 8: and then when it comes to the Bible, that blind
Speaker 8: faith like disappears.
Speaker 5: It's like why not just yeah.
Speaker 6: And everybody make excuses like, dude, around me fourteen they
Speaker 6: tell you don't touch the flash of a dead pig.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, eating niggas, love for chiplings.
Speaker 5: That's the only park I do.
Speaker 1: That's the only poor amazing I do bacon.
Speaker 8: But chillings is like, I don't want to hear nothing
Speaker 8: about it. You can't talk me out of that. I
Speaker 8: love chillings.
Speaker 2: Like that white man like, that's totally two different sides.
Speaker 1: Like Chiitling's on one side and the.
Speaker 8: White we said we were we were on today just
Speaker 8: keep bringing up had a balance of.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because you just keep holding on.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're right, I'm sorry. That's front page. Thank you, Lauren.
Speaker 1: Just love white meat.
Speaker 5: We learned in the last couple of days. First, I
Speaker 5: am no dark meat because like me, be dry.
Speaker 8: Chitlings, chilling drivers, chilings don't really count as like white order. Yeah, gut,
Speaker 8: I don't care how many documentaries you send me. Would
Speaker 8: you say I'm going to eat some chiplings that Thanksgiving
Speaker 8: and Christy God.
Speaker 1: Bless you my mom, hope we pray over that. My
Speaker 1: mom will cooking New Year's Eve. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: You know when you pray over chicklings and bless the food,
Speaker 6: God ignores your prayers.
Speaker 1: He sends this, He sends them to this man fold.
Speaker 5: You know that, No I did. I never heard that.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Tiz absolutely, and make sure you subscribe
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Speaker 2: All right now, when we come back, Kerry Washington will
Speaker 2: be joining us. She has a new book, Thicket and Water,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna kick it with her when we come back.
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast Club Go Morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 15: Morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody is stej n V Charlamagne to God. We are
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. We have Laura La Rosa our guest host.
Speaker 2: And we got a special guest in the building, Kerry Washington.
Speaker 2: That's right, Welcomeay Washington. New book out Thicker than Water. Congratulations,
Speaker 2: you learn so much about you uh with this book?
Speaker 2: First it maybe it's just me be a stupid I
Speaker 2: didn't know you were from the Bronx.
Speaker 1: Really, I did not know that.
Speaker 4: I didn't know you were from born and born and raised.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I say? I'll say the craziest
Speaker 1: people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida.
Speaker 23: Why what why? I agree on Florida, but why the Bronx.
Speaker 23: One of the most talented people that is true to
Speaker 23: come from the Bronx.
Speaker 1: That is very true too. Now, how did you know
Speaker 1: now the time to write Thinking and Water?
Speaker 23: So what I write about in the book is that
Speaker 23: a handful of like five years ago, my parents sat
Speaker 23: me down and shared with me some new information about
Speaker 23: myself that really kind of challenged the way that I
Speaker 23: thought about myself, that I thought about my family turned
Speaker 23: my world upside down. And at the time, I had
Speaker 23: actually sold another book, Idea, which was based kind of
Speaker 23: inspired by the show that I was on, Scandal, and
Speaker 23: it was like, these are the ten things that I
Speaker 23: learned from Olivia Pope. But every time I sat down
Speaker 23: to write that book, all I could think about was
Speaker 23: this new information I'd been given and how it impacted
Speaker 23: my family and my sense of self. And so I
Speaker 23: wasn't going to write book at all. I tried to
Speaker 23: give the publisher their money back, but they wouldn't take it.
Speaker 13: Wow.
Speaker 23: And then a few years later I was like, I
Speaker 23: think I have to at least try to write this book.
Speaker 1: You said your parents didn't want you to reveal Yeah.
Speaker 23: Yeah, so my my my parents told me that they
Speaker 23: were sort of forced to tell me that my dad
Speaker 23: is not my biological father.
Speaker 2: How did that affect you, because I mean, he's still
Speaker 2: your dad at the end of the day. We've seen
Speaker 2: the picture you know him choke Instagram. Yeah yeah, so
Speaker 2: how did that affect anything after you were told?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 23: I think immediately when they told me it was weird.
Speaker 23: To be totally honest with you, I felt like excited.
Speaker 23: I felt excited and grateful because I had always felt
Speaker 23: like there was something going on in my family that
Speaker 23: I couldn't put my finger on. But it was like
Speaker 23: a dynamic of distance or like there was I just
Speaker 23: knew that I didn't know what. I didn't know, but
Speaker 23: I knew that that there was something between my parents
Speaker 23: and I. And because I didn't know what it was,
Speaker 23: a lot of times I blamed myself for that or
Speaker 23: maybe thought I was crazy for thinking it, maybe thought
Speaker 23: that maybe I'm just not open enough, like I was
Speaker 23: always trying to figure it out. So when they told me,
Speaker 23: it felt like, I don't know, it felt like I
Speaker 23: could breathe. It felt like, oh, this is this is
Speaker 23: a real opportunity for me to jump into this new
Speaker 23: kind of understanding of myself and my life.
Speaker 4: And you know, it was it was really exciting when you.
Speaker 8: Would ask questions about like just different things like hey,
Speaker 8: you go to the doctors and they say, you know
Speaker 8: what illnesses are on your mom? So you would ask
Speaker 8: your dad your mom those questions? How would they answer it?
Speaker 8: As if my dad was my father? They were going
Speaker 8: to take this to their grave, And I get it.
Speaker 8: I totally understand, right, Like.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think they they felt like, well, first of all,
Speaker 23: let me just say this, my parents are renegades, right,
Speaker 23: like a lot of us. Now we know people who
Speaker 23: go to sperm don or sperm banks.
Speaker 5: Right, It's like.
Speaker 23: Very common relatively now, and you get a whole catalog.
Speaker 23: You can pick the color of the eyes and what
Speaker 23: Ivy League university they went to. But when my parents
Speaker 23: did this in the mid seventies, nobody was doing this.
Speaker 23: This was highly experimental, highly secretive. It was a big
Speaker 23: risk they were taking. It wasn't like they had complete
Speaker 23: health screenings for the donor. They had no idea who
Speaker 23: the donor was. They said, we asked two things. Let
Speaker 23: them be healthy. Who knows what that means at the time, right,
Speaker 23: but like we want them to be healthy, and we
Speaker 23: want them to be black. Because they wanted this to
Speaker 23: be a secret.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know you talk about your eating disorder
Speaker 2: and dealing with how you felt about your body and
Speaker 2: your looks. Yeah, I wanted to know what got you
Speaker 2: in that point. And the reason I ask is I
Speaker 2: have four daughters. Charlemagne has four daughters, and I always
Speaker 2: want to make sure I try my hardest to give
Speaker 2: my daughter as many compliments as possible, right, because you
Speaker 2: never want them to feel that way, but sometimes I
Speaker 2: don't think that matters because it's also how.
Speaker 1: They look at themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what got you to that point where you
Speaker 2: didn't like what you've seen in the mirror or something
Speaker 2: that you weren't happy about.
Speaker 4: It's such a good question.
Speaker 23: I have daughters too, right, So it's something that I
Speaker 23: think about a lot. I think that the food, it's
Speaker 23: like any other kind of addictive behavior. It's not about
Speaker 23: the drug. It's not really about the food or even
Speaker 23: really about the relationship with body. Came out from a
Speaker 23: compulsion of trying to escape the feelings I was having.
Speaker 1: Or numb them.
Speaker 23: And so I think for me, it was this sense
Speaker 23: that I write about in the book of feeling like
Speaker 23: I had to be perfect, like I had to be
Speaker 23: better than who I was in order to be deserving
Speaker 23: of love. And some of that came from like why
Speaker 23: do I have this weird dynamic with my parents?
Speaker 4: Like what's going on?
Speaker 23: Maybe if I was better, prettier, smarter, thinner, then I
Speaker 23: might be more lovable. So I don't even you know,
Speaker 23: I mean, I do think it's important to teach our
Speaker 23: kids to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise,
Speaker 23: to make healthy choices when it comes to food, to
Speaker 23: teach them about nutrition, about how food works in the body.
Speaker 4: All that's important.
Speaker 23: But I think helping a kid to feel unconditionally loved,
Speaker 23: to feel safe, those are the things that I think
Speaker 23: help us have the tool rules to live in life
Speaker 23: on life's terms, as opposed to grabbing at addictive behaviors
Speaker 23: to escape life.
Speaker 6: Now I'm jumping all around because I want people to
Speaker 6: read the book Thinking and Water. But you talked about,
Speaker 6: you know, always thriving for perfection. Yeah, but you said,
Speaker 6: Jamie Fox thought you a very valuable lesson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you explain what that was?
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think Jamie. I mean, I've been really lucky.
Speaker 23: I've been lucky enough to work with Jamie twice on
Speaker 23: Ray and Janego Unchained classics by the way, Yeah, truly,
Speaker 23: he's He's the best. And Jamie's taught me a lot
Speaker 23: about a lot of things. But one of the things
Speaker 23: is in my work as an actor, to you have
Speaker 23: to let go of that perfection idea. Because we were
Speaker 23: doing a scene together and Ray. It was the scene
Speaker 23: where I find speaking of drugs, where I find all
Speaker 23: his heroin works the first time as his wife. And
Speaker 23: you know, we had done it in the morning, we
Speaker 23: had hit it out of the park and I was like, oh,
Speaker 23: we are on fire.
Speaker 5: This is incredible.
Speaker 23: And then as the day went on, I kept trying
Speaker 23: to do it exactly the way we had done earlier
Speaker 23: that morning, so that it would be in that perfect
Speaker 23: place that felt so good. And that's the beginning of
Speaker 23: death as an actor, Like, you can't try to recreate magic.
Speaker 23: You have to keep cultivating new magic, right, Like you
Speaker 23: have to truly be in the moment. And Jamie really
Speaker 23: helped me to realize that. I was frustrated in the
Speaker 23: scene and he was like, you gotta keep digging. You
Speaker 23: got to let go of this morning. And that was
Speaker 23: a really powerful lesson.
Speaker 6: Why was it easier to find that in acting as
Speaker 6: opposed to real life.
Speaker 23: Well, I guess I hadn't learned how to apply that
Speaker 23: to the rest of my world. You know, there was
Speaker 23: like it was in a vacuum, was isolated kind of moment.
Speaker 4: But it's a good question.
Speaker 23: I mean, that is the lesson though, right is that,
Speaker 23: Like the answer is never about perfection, It's always about like,
Speaker 23: what's the best possible version of my life in this
Speaker 23: moment of me in this moment.
Speaker 2: Now, you did say something I heard you say that
Speaker 2: parents do the best that they can and then it's
Speaker 2: up to us to parent ourselves after that, explain that.
Speaker 23: Well, I think like one of the things that I've
Speaker 23: truly come to terms with in writing this book is
Speaker 23: that every choice my parents made was out of love.
Speaker 23: They weren't trying to be cruel, they weren't trying to
Speaker 23: hurt me. They really thought that this was the best choice.
Speaker 23: And by the way doctors back then said it, like
Speaker 23: artificial inssemination was so new. They would say, we do
Speaker 23: this thing and then you go home and have sex,
Speaker 23: and then you have plausible deniability. And nobody knew forty
Speaker 23: years ago there would be these home tests twenty three
Speaker 23: in ancestry.
Speaker 4: You had no idea.
Speaker 23: So they were like, go home and have sex, then
Speaker 23: the kid's yours, end of story, nothing to talk about, right,
Speaker 23: And so I think my parents didn't want me to
Speaker 23: feel different. They didn't want me to feel weird. They
Speaker 23: didn't want me ironically, they didn't want me to feel
Speaker 23: distanced from them, even though that's what wound up happening.
Speaker 23: So I know that they made loving choices or choices
Speaker 23: out of love, even if they didn't feel loving to me.
Speaker 23: But I think we have to for me and my journey.
Speaker 23: It's been like it's been good to understand who they
Speaker 23: were to have compassion for their choices. But I can't
Speaker 23: blame them for where I am now. Like now that
Speaker 23: I have awareness, I have to say, like, Okay, they
Speaker 23: gave me everything they could with as much love as
Speaker 23: they could. How do I now close the gap between
Speaker 23: what they gave me and what I need? That's my
Speaker 23: responsibility as an adult. If I just sit here and
Speaker 23: continue to complain about what they didn't give me, then
Speaker 23: I'm keeping myself a child.
Speaker 2: Hi, we got more with Kerry Washington. When we come back,
Speaker 2: don't move. It's to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning Morning. Everybody is the ej Envy, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 1: We are to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Our special guest co host Laura la Rosa is here
Speaker 2: and we're still kicking it with Carrie Washington.
Speaker 5: Lauren, what's the conversation like with your kids?
Speaker 8: Like once you decided to take this world to your
Speaker 8: kids and even deciding to write the book, and now
Speaker 8: you're you know, because your kids, I'm sure they're friends.
Speaker 8: And everybody knows who you are, So how do you
Speaker 8: have that conversation with them? And kind of how are
Speaker 8: they responding to things?
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, like I was saying before, this is.
Speaker 23: So common now, like it's not news to my kids.
Speaker 4: They were so unimpressed, Like, you know, they're in their classes.
Speaker 23: They have kids with two dads and two moms, so
Speaker 23: they have friends from sperm donors, friends from egg donors,
Speaker 23: friends who are adopted, friends who were born from surrogates.
Speaker 23: Like they also like, we're a blended family right there,
Speaker 23: big sister. You know, when we look at the three
Speaker 23: of them, their big sister has four parents, Like having
Speaker 23: me having another parental figure in my story is not
Speaker 23: weird to them. For my parents, they came from a
Speaker 23: world where what makes a family was very different, but
Speaker 23: the ideas of what makes a family now is much
Speaker 23: more open. So you know, they they know obviously the
Speaker 23: conversation I have with my seventeen year old is very
Speaker 23: different than the conversation I have with my six year old. Right,
Speaker 23: But I want to be a home where we're open
Speaker 23: and honest and where they feel like they can ask anything.
Speaker 8: What about when you decided to because I know in
Speaker 8: this book you talk about the abortion that you had
Speaker 8: at twenty. Yeah, that is something that is like in
Speaker 8: your twentieth But I mean it's around Saved the Last
Speaker 8: Dance time, right, so you were, you know, highly successful
Speaker 8: at this time.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 23: But it's in a chapter that I call Black famous
Speaker 23: because I was like, you know how we are like
Speaker 23: white people didn't necessarily know that the girl from Saved
Speaker 23: the Last Dance was the same girl from Ray was
Speaker 23: the same girl from Last Kame of Scotland. So we knew,
Speaker 23: I you know, but so yes, I was my star
Speaker 23: was on the rise.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't.
Speaker 23: I wasn't like I could still go to the grocery
Speaker 23: store and it was all good.
Speaker 6: I want.
Speaker 1: I love yourself awareness.
Speaker 6: Did you realize you were Black famous when you were
Speaker 6: Black famous or was that in hindsight?
Speaker 23: No, in the moment, because I knew, you know, it
Speaker 23: was like I knew I could walk down the street
Speaker 23: on fifty seventh in Madison and be fine, but if
Speaker 23: I was in the Bronx, it was like, oh my god.
Speaker 23: Or like at the time I was a substitute teacher
Speaker 23: in New York City public schools, that was one of
Speaker 23: my many side hustles when I was.
Speaker 4: Trying to make a living as an actor.
Speaker 23: And it was funny because I would get hired into
Speaker 23: the school and the principals who were white, you know,
Speaker 23: the principal's vice principals, They would be like, so nice
Speaker 23: to meet you. Great, they bring me to the classroom.
Speaker 23: They had no idea who I was. But then I
Speaker 23: would be asked to leave a school because by the
Speaker 23: second day, all the kids were cutting class to see
Speaker 23: Chaneil from Save the Last Dance because they knew who
Speaker 23: I was because I was substitute teaching in Harlem.
Speaker 4: So it was like that dynamic.
Speaker 23: I understood that certain people knew who I was and
Speaker 23: other people didn't.
Speaker 1: What's more fulfilling being black famous or white female?
Speaker 23: I think you have to have both. That was one
Speaker 23: of the things that Chris Rock taught me, like, you
Speaker 23: can never ever forget your core original first audience. You
Speaker 23: cannot because that other audience will come and go, they'll
Speaker 23: be ebbs and flows. But black people will hold you
Speaker 23: up throughout. If you stay with us, we stay with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what made Scandals such a hit.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 23: I mean, we were part of the birth of black
Speaker 23: Twitter at the time, so I one of my best
Speaker 23: friends from high school. She's a brilliant social media person,
Speaker 23: Alison Peters. She actually convinced me to go on Twitter
Speaker 23: and I was like, what why, I don't know, and
Speaker 23: she was like, she had come out of viacom and
Speaker 23: was like, it's really important, you need to do this,
Speaker 23: And she and I kind of talked Shonda Rhimes into
Speaker 23: talking the cast into being on Twitter. And we were
Speaker 23: one of the first shows to do live tweeting and
Speaker 23: to really have event television at a time where people
Speaker 23: were no longer watching shows in real time unless it
Speaker 23: was like a basketball game, And so that conversation around
Speaker 23: the show was our grassroots movement, like we had black
Speaker 23: Twitter on fire. People like Oprah eventually were like, I
Speaker 23: only started watching Scandal because it's the only thing people
Speaker 23: talked about on Thursday nights on Twitter.
Speaker 4: So yes, in.
Speaker 23: That first season, it was absolutely because black audience is
Speaker 23: you know.
Speaker 4: How culture follows us.
Speaker 23: So black audiences made it that you had to be
Speaker 23: there to tune in, and suddenly it trickled out into
Speaker 23: the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: How often do people come up to you to feed.
Speaker 4: All the time?
Speaker 23: And to be honest, because the show was inspired by
Speaker 23: a real woman, Judy Smith, who's a real DC fixer
Speaker 23: who never slept with the president, but was a real fixer.
Speaker 23: And I have her on speed dial, so people also
Speaker 23: will come to me to get to her because they
Speaker 23: know she is truly able to mixed up.
Speaker 1: Have you needed it?
Speaker 23: I haven't needed her, but I've sent other people to her. Yes,
Speaker 23: but I've talked to her. I mean, like not on
Speaker 23: like I'm in jail. It's two am. Helped me out,
Speaker 23: but like, you know, if there's a rollout of a
Speaker 23: movie and I'm like, I don't know, this directory is
Speaker 23: a little bit of a problem. What do you think
Speaker 23: you know I've done. I've had those kind of conversations
Speaker 23: with her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but people, do you.
Speaker 23: Know it's funny, like it'll happen in political moments, Like
Speaker 23: a lot of my political work now is inspired by
Speaker 23: the fact that in twenty sixteen, the morning after the election,
Speaker 23: when that awful rapist, racist person was elected, that when
Speaker 23: I woke up all over social media, people were like,
Speaker 23: you have to save us, what.
Speaker 5: Are you gonna do?
Speaker 15: Please?
Speaker 4: Olivia Pope?
Speaker 23: And it was funny for a minute, and then I
Speaker 23: was like, we have a real problem in our culture
Speaker 23: because we we don't realize that Olivia Pope is an
Speaker 23: imaginary character on a television show, and that every single
Speaker 23: person who wrote one of those tweets they have more
Speaker 23: power than Olivia Pope because she can't vote, she can't
Speaker 23: register voters, she can't volunteer, she can't knock on doors.
Speaker 23: But it's like we've given our power over to imaginary
Speaker 23: people because we have this hero worship, right, So we're
Speaker 23: not stepping into our power because we're looking for somebody
Speaker 23: else to solve our problems for us.
Speaker 4: So a lot of the.
Speaker 23: Work that I've been doing has been trying to figure
Speaker 23: out how to turn the spotlight that's on me onto
Speaker 23: those grassroots organizations and people who are really doing the work.
Speaker 6: When people saw you would the vice president the other day, Yeah,
Speaker 6: probably she's back.
Speaker 5: She's the White House.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to have a more question about your father.
Speaker 6: How they finding out your father wasn't your biological father
Speaker 6: change your views on parenthos oh Man.
Speaker 23: Well, one thing I say in the book is, and
Speaker 23: it's what I feel, is that in our community, where
Speaker 23: people have historically had such difficult relationships, right where there's
Speaker 23: this history of dads maybe not being present, you know,
Speaker 23: in the neighborhood that I grew up in. I grew
Speaker 23: up in one of the few households where the dad
Speaker 23: was around, and you know, my parents were still married.
Speaker 23: And the fact looking act that my dad really did
Speaker 23: choose me, that he was there, he's been there for
Speaker 23: me the whole time, that he's been this you know,
Speaker 23: parental force in my life, that he's my dad, that
Speaker 23: he chose me, that I belonged to him and he
Speaker 23: belongs to me. It almost meant more than it ever
Speaker 23: did before. And I feel really grateful.
Speaker 2: You know, now you contemplated suicide at one point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well what got you there?
Speaker 1: First of all? And then how did you get through it?
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure there's people listening now that might be
Speaker 2: in that same zone and trying to work themselves through
Speaker 2: it every day. So what got you to that point
Speaker 2: where you felt that way? And then how did you
Speaker 2: get over that obstacle?
Speaker 23: When you say there might be people listening who feel
Speaker 23: that way, it's like, my heart breaks because I just
Speaker 23: know how hard it is to feel that alone and
Speaker 23: that hopeless. So if anybody's listening and is feeling that way.
Speaker 23: The one thing I would say is to ask for help,
Speaker 23: you know, is to really ask for help because you
Speaker 23: are you feel alone, but I guarantee you you are
Speaker 23: not alone. And for me that was the big thing
Speaker 23: was I mean number one was the first time that
Speaker 23: I truly got on my knees and talked to God
Speaker 23: and was like I need help, Like I don't I
Speaker 23: because I felt like I really don't have any tools,
Speaker 23: I don't know what to do. So it was the
Speaker 23: first time that I think I humbled myself enough to
Speaker 23: feel like there's got to be something bigger than me
Speaker 23: that points me in the direction of healing, and I
Speaker 23: started reaching out. I went to therapy for the first time,
Speaker 23: group therapy, one on one, Like I just really started
Speaker 23: committing to trying to walk this road of healing.
Speaker 1: I swear by, Yeah, Hi, we got more with Kerry
Speaker 1: Washington when we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Good morning morning, everybody. It's DJ n D Charlamagne to God.
Speaker 2: We are to Breakfast Club. Our special guest co host
Speaker 2: Laura La Rosa is here and we're still kicking it
Speaker 2: with Carrie Washington.
Speaker 1: Charlamagne.
Speaker 6: You're talking about traveling. In the Black Famous chapter, you
Speaker 6: talk about going to Africa, Yeah, to become African. How
Speaker 6: did that trip change?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 23: I was filming Last King of Scotland. That was my
Speaker 23: first time on the continent and it was great because
Speaker 23: I do feel like sometimes as black people in America,
Speaker 23: we go to Africa with all these like do I
Speaker 23: belong here? Do I feel at home?
Speaker 21: Like?
Speaker 23: What is my relationship here? And I just had to
Speaker 23: put all of that aside because my focus was on
Speaker 23: just kind of dropping in and becoming a Ugandan woman.
Speaker 23: And I really did feel at home there.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 23: I felt so lucky to be able to be so
Speaker 23: immersed in the culture that I wasn't there like, you know,
Speaker 23: as a tourist, and I took it when I was there.
Speaker 23: I don't know if you've heard about this experience. It's
Speaker 23: not in the book, but we were hiking in the
Speaker 23: ruin Zori Mountains, which are the mountains that border Rwanda
Speaker 23: and Uganda, and it's where the only wild gorillas live.
Speaker 23: And you can go out with a gorilla trekker and
Speaker 23: find the gorillas in the jungle and spend time with them.
Speaker 23: You go with like a tour guide and these truckers
Speaker 23: and these guys with AK forty seven's just in case.
Speaker 1: The craziest people from the Bronx.
Speaker 23: If people travel from all over the world to have
Speaker 23: this experience because it is one of the most intense
Speaker 23: spiritual experiences I've ever had. The second one is my
Speaker 23: experience with the whales that I write about at the
Speaker 23: end of the book. But it was like to be
Speaker 23: in the jungle, to be with these creatures, and you
Speaker 23: realize we really do share like ninety seven ninety eight
Speaker 23: percent of our DNA with these animals, and they are
Speaker 23: You start to think like, oh, they're so human, but no,
Speaker 23: like we are so gorilla. And the craziest thing that
Speaker 23: happened was when they give you this orientation in the morning,
Speaker 23: They're like, if a gorilla gets close to you and
Speaker 23: is looking at you, the most important thing to do
Speaker 23: is not run. You have to to feel safe act
Speaker 23: like a gorilla. So I was like, wait, I didn't
Speaker 23: hear it through that lens because for me, I was
Speaker 23: like a young actor who had done animal exercises at school,
Speaker 23: like this was my opportunity for this was my Meryl
Speaker 23: Street mode. So when the gorilla case from the tree,
Speaker 23: I was like a squad. I mean, everybody in my
Speaker 23: group was like, what is she? When I tell you
Speaker 23: that is the best performance of my life. I was
Speaker 23: I was the gorilla, The gorilla was me. I started,
Speaker 23: I picked off a leaf, started chewing on it, and
Speaker 23: we had the most incredible experience because this gorilla gorilla
Speaker 23: kept getting closer and closer to us, and this little
Speaker 23: baby gorilla she was so curious. She was like, what,
Speaker 23: We've never seen a human like this. She was like,
Speaker 23: this one's one of us, but close. They just they
Speaker 23: got closer. The trekker said than they'd ever had a
Speaker 23: gorilla get to a group before. I mean the guy
Speaker 23: with the AK forty seven came right next to me
Speaker 23: because they were terrified.
Speaker 4: But I was like, don't stop, don't stop. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was incredible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, how you do tell you that just because.
Speaker 23: The experience that we got out of it. I mean
Speaker 23: they said it to everybody in the group, but I
Speaker 23: was the best actor in the Wow. Yeah, when all
Speaker 23: of this is done, like everybody gets the book, they
Speaker 23: get to read it. Everybody should get the book. They
Speaker 23: read the audio book. It's and my own words. So
Speaker 23: that's fun.
Speaker 8: What is the like the hug or the message that
Speaker 8: you want people to get from this book.
Speaker 23: I think, and this is something that I've written in
Speaker 23: the book, but there's a saying I heard a long
Speaker 23: time ago that I really love that we are as
Speaker 23: sick as our secrets, and that when I think, when
Speaker 23: we can let go of the things that keep our
Speaker 23: true selves hidden, we can let go of our shame.
Speaker 4: You know, I knew when my parents told me.
Speaker 23: I realized that they had been living under this lie
Speaker 23: for so long that every time I had said I
Speaker 23: love you to my dad, whether it was conscious or unconscious,
Speaker 23: there must have been a part of him that thought,
Speaker 23: she loves me because she thinks I am her father.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 23: And there must have been a part of him that thought,
Speaker 23: if she knew I wasn't her father, maybe she won't
Speaker 23: love me. That's part of why they didn't tell me.
Speaker 23: And so I had the opportunity, once they gave me
Speaker 23: that truth, to actually, for the first time, love my
Speaker 23: father unconditionally. And that's what we all deserve, that's what
Speaker 23: we all want. We want we want to know that
Speaker 23: no matter what we do, or how we act, or
Speaker 23: what we've done in the past, that we're lovable and
Speaker 23: that we're loved, and I feel like my family's in
Speaker 23: that place now. But you only get there when you
Speaker 23: expose your truth, when you're vulnerable enough to show people
Speaker 23: who you are and they love you anyway, then you
Speaker 23: know that you are worthy of unconditional love.
Speaker 6: But I think your father proves that you know, just
Speaker 6: because somebody provides BERM doesn't make them He's an actual Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 23: And it's even like people will say like, well, do
Speaker 23: you know who your biological father is? And I'm still
Speaker 23: wrapping my head honestly around that language.
Speaker 1: Like do you want to know who the donor is?
Speaker 5: I was literally about to say I do.
Speaker 4: I'm searching.
Speaker 23: I'm looking, and again not because I need a daddy,
Speaker 23: right Like, I'm not looking for an emotional connection. I'm
Speaker 23: really open. I mean I say that now, who knows
Speaker 23: when it was? You never know, Like you could walk
Speaker 23: in the room and I gonna be like, but I
Speaker 23: think I'm just really curious about that fifty percent of me,
Speaker 23: that genetic fifty percent of me. I think there is
Speaker 23: a question. I know what I've gotten from my dad.
Speaker 23: I know from my dad I've gotten my sense of humor,
Speaker 23: my imagination, my belief in the impossible, my ability to
Speaker 23: tell a story. I know what I've gotten from my mom,
Speaker 23: my intellect, my intellectual curiosity, my grace, my compassion. I
Speaker 23: don't know what I've gotten from the donor. I'm curious
Speaker 23: what part comes from him. And I'm curious just in
Speaker 23: terms of my medical history. I feel like I owe
Speaker 23: that to my kids, that they should know where they
Speaker 23: come from. But the emotional part of it, I'm open
Speaker 23: to let it be what it's going to be. Maybe
Speaker 23: it'll feel like I have additional family. Maybe it'll just
Speaker 23: feel like I have additional information. I feel good either way.
Speaker 1: Can we with something you said in the epilogue?
Speaker 6: And I feel like it can relate to so many
Speaker 6: people you save My life is not about my donor,
Speaker 6: nor about my parents. My life is my own. What
Speaker 6: does that mean to you? And what could that mean
Speaker 6: the others?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 23: So when my parents told me this information, I realized
Speaker 23: because they had built this narrative, this false narrative, about
Speaker 23: where I came from, I realized that in many ways
Speaker 23: I had been the supporting character in their story right
Speaker 23: like they were living this life. They were Earl and Valerie,
Speaker 23: parents of this beautiful child, successful middle class black family,
Speaker 23: like I was the supporting character in that fable, and
Speaker 23: when they gave me the truth, I felt like part
Speaker 23: of why I wanted to write the book was that
Speaker 23: it was time for me to step into being the
Speaker 23: lead character in the story of my life, to not
Speaker 23: let my life belong to them, to say, like, I
Speaker 23: deserve to be on this journey, this quest because I
Speaker 23: have my own story. Like, I get it, you had
Speaker 23: four decades of living this your way, but it's my
Speaker 23: turn to kind of take this narrative and figure out
Speaker 23: what my life means for me. So I love my parents.
Speaker 23: I do love being a supporting character in their life,
Speaker 23: but that has to be a ch I have to
Speaker 23: know that fundamentally, my life is my own and that
Speaker 23: they because I have the most incredible parents, they now
Speaker 23: have the opportunity and have allowed themselves to be supporting
Speaker 23: characters in my story. And a lot of what I've
Speaker 23: learned about parenting has been about that choice on their part,
Speaker 23: because they have allowed themselves to be supporting characters for
Speaker 23: me in this moment, which is humbling for all of us,
Speaker 23: with them in particular, right and as I look forward
Speaker 23: at my kids. I realize this is my moment. Like
Speaker 23: this book. I am the protagonist of this book, but
Speaker 23: I'm also the supporting character in the story of my kids,
Speaker 23: and I want them to know that I have their
Speaker 23: back and that they have to live their own life.
Speaker 23: They shouldn't be living in the ways that make me comfortable.
Speaker 23: They shouldn't be making choices that are for my own good.
Speaker 23: They have to make the right choices for them in
Speaker 23: the way that I'm making the right choices for me.
Speaker 2: Now, well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning, Thick,
Speaker 2: because than water is out right now.
Speaker 5: Yes, will come see us on tour.
Speaker 23: We're going to be in Chicago, DC, Atlanta, l A.
Speaker 23: I'm going to be in a conversation with Gabrielle Union,
Speaker 23: Tyler Perry telling me young Tony Goldwin's an incredible lineup,
Speaker 23: So come see us out.
Speaker 4: On the road.
Speaker 1: Get her out of here. She's holding in a coffin.
Speaker 15: That's right.
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Speaker 2: Charlamagne the gud We are the Breakfast Club. Law on
Speaker 2: the roasts here, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 6: Saluthor Kerry Washington for pulling up man, and make sure
Speaker 6: you go get her book Thicketing Water, which is available
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, great read.
Speaker 5: Then you feel like I got a hug from that conversation.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, her energy is a great everything. Oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 6: absolute energy is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get to the rooms. Let's go.
Speaker 6: Here for.
Speaker 1: Reports.
Speaker 18: I think a lot of people will recognize the boys
Speaker 18: from the name.
Speaker 2: On the breakfast club. Lauren came in hot.
Speaker 8: So there may be a new couple alerts soon if
Speaker 8: this goes well. So, Chloe Bailey was on a Apple
Speaker 8: music show called The Dotty Show and she was asked
Speaker 8: who is your celebrity crush, and here's how she answered.
Speaker 5: It's Michael B.
Speaker 15: Jordan.
Speaker 24: That's my celebrity crush. I've been said that in interviews
Speaker 24: even like years ago. But have you told him no,
Speaker 24: this is where we've got to work on your shoot.
Speaker 24: In your shot, Chloe, I don't shoot my shot.
Speaker 1: So how is she gonna know? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think you should right now, DM, Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan. Now you could be blocking your blessings.
Speaker 5: And I know you're big on blessings.
Speaker 24: I'm big on blessings, but I'm like, God will bring
Speaker 24: my blessings to me when they're supposed to be here.
Speaker 24: We've got to stop expecting our blessings to lander our door, Chloe.
Speaker 24: But when we try to force it, we could block
Speaker 24: other blessings and then you end up giving them the
Speaker 24: eck exactly.
Speaker 5: Wow, what is it about Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan?
Speaker 15: Wow?
Speaker 5: Look at you blushing like he's in the room.
Speaker 24: That's crazy, just from thinking about him.
Speaker 1: That's great, No, Charlamagne, how does that make you feel?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? That's your cousin. She's a girl,
Speaker 1: a woman.
Speaker 18: Crushes.
Speaker 1: She can make her own decisions.
Speaker 8: I just feel like when you're a celebrity, though, and
Speaker 8: you put something out that like that in the air,
Speaker 8: like shoot if he's available, because I don't know if
Speaker 8: he's dating again or whatever since on Lloyd Harvey, but
Speaker 8: if he's available, shoot one.
Speaker 6: Hundred and by the way, even if he's not available, Chloyd,
Speaker 6: don't care about all the white women that might go
Speaker 6: be Jordan probably surrounding yo.
Speaker 8: I mean that's another thing.
Speaker 5: She likes skin. Though he was dating Glory Hardy.
Speaker 1: Dated Lori Harvey.
Speaker 8: Harvey feel like the darkest he probably might go is Chloe,
Speaker 8: So she might have a shot man.
Speaker 1: That's disrespectful.
Speaker 2: We don't know who he did before exactly that I've seen.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe she just couldn't keep it the white.
Speaker 5: Women, because Lori Harvey isn't a white woman.
Speaker 1: I know she's not. She's not.
Speaker 6: But I'm talking about after the white woman. He's probably
Speaker 6: surrounded by a bunch of milk right now. So I'm saying,
Speaker 6: you don't care about all that milk anyway. I think
Speaker 6: Paul is milk out. We lack toos in tolerant.
Speaker 1: Okay, I just.
Speaker 5: Thought it was cute. I don't know where this just went,
Speaker 5: but I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I don't be talking get me, I'll be lying my
Speaker 1: shot to Michael B. Jordan.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's fire man. I think it's fired too that
Speaker 8: she is so open about it.
Speaker 5: Becau shooting a.
Speaker 1: Shot like you shot your shot with Travis yesterday.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that wasn't me shooting my.
Speaker 6: Shot with That was definitely you shooting your shot, making
Speaker 6: of milk. That was definitely shooting your shot at Travis.
Speaker 1: He was shooting your shot. That was a little ship
Speaker 1: we shot. We're not going back there, blu shot.
Speaker 8: One thing about men when they scoring y'all just can't
Speaker 8: let it go. Huh scoring man, y'all are that's a
Speaker 8: bad be right there? Okay, we're gonna we're gonna move on.
Speaker 8: We're gonna talk about Cloe're gonna talk about Jack co So,
Speaker 8: I don't know, hopefully that works out.
Speaker 5: I could see that. I could see them together.
Speaker 1: Michael B.
Speaker 8: Jordan used to be one of my crushes too. I
Speaker 8: think he's everybody's everybody has had like a little thing
Speaker 8: with him today.
Speaker 2: What about the age differ because what he's thirty six,
Speaker 2: she's what twenty four?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 5: That doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. I like seeing Michael B. Jordan with
Speaker 1: black women.
Speaker 5: I would like that too. Yeah, why are you saying
Speaker 5: it to me like I'm the judget that jail.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I like seeing Michael B. Jordan with
Speaker 1: black women? Are you sure you by?
Speaker 6: That's what the B stand for, Michael, black women joyed,
Speaker 6: and that's what we wanted to stand for, not Michael
Speaker 6: Becky Jordan.
Speaker 5: My god, Well, shout out to them.
Speaker 8: I hope that they figured it out in the DMS
Speaker 8: if he is available now moving on, moving on, so,
Speaker 8: j Cole shared something yesterday. He shared a letter from
Speaker 8: Colin Kaepernick. Now, this letter was a letter that Colin
Speaker 8: Kaepernick wrote to the Jets back on September twenty first,
Speaker 8: and j Cole said in the caption that he had
Speaker 8: to actually acts Colin Kaepernick if he was able to
Speaker 8: share the letter. Colin was a little bit reluctant, but
Speaker 8: Jay Cole said he wanted to share this letter because
Speaker 8: he wanted people to see how much Colin still wants
Speaker 8: to play football.
Speaker 5: And how ready he is now.
Speaker 8: The letter, which is addressed to Joe Douglas, the general
Speaker 8: manager of the Jets, it basically just outlines the fact
Speaker 8: that Jay Cole and his team know that they are
Speaker 8: that the Jets are the big loss since Aaron was injured,
Speaker 8: and although they have Zach Wilson and now they have
Speaker 8: another person that they brought it on Tuesday. He feels
Speaker 8: like he wants to lead their practice team because this
Speaker 8: will give the Jets a reason to be watching him
Speaker 8: see how prepared he is. It can also help the
Speaker 8: team and then basically if they need a kind of
Speaker 8: contingency plan, he's there and he's already ready. So this
Speaker 8: letter was sent on the twenty first. There are reports
Speaker 8: though that the Jets have recently brought in a new
Speaker 8: player as a Tuesday, a quarterback named Trevor's.
Speaker 1: Saman Sam trevor smen practice squad.
Speaker 5: Yeah to the practice squad.
Speaker 8: So I don't know if that means that it's over
Speaker 8: for Colin and that potential.
Speaker 2: I love Colin Kaepernick and I love everything he did
Speaker 2: for the sport. I love everything he did for standing
Speaker 2: up for people. But the problem I have now is
Speaker 2: it seems like he's begging to get back into the
Speaker 2: league I like, and I don't like to see that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like you've done a lot, the league is boxed
Speaker 2: you out, and it's to the point now I don't
Speaker 2: want to see him asking to.
Speaker 3: Get back by that league.
Speaker 6: I wish that they didn't share that letter. I wish
Speaker 6: that letter was never written. That letter was tragically sad
Speaker 6: and downright pathetic. Colin Kaepernick has let his set back
Speaker 6: become his identity, and I hate that for him. God
Speaker 6: exalted Colin Kaepernick into a position of leadership in regard
Speaker 6: to activism, and it pains me to see that man
Speaker 6: still begging to be in a league that he called
Speaker 6: racist and compared to a plantation, and I hate that he.
Speaker 1: Can never speak for himself.
Speaker 6: He always got somebody else speaking for him or putting
Speaker 6: out his messaging for him.
Speaker 1: That so whacked me.
Speaker 6: I wish Colin the best and all his endeavors, but
Speaker 6: just begging, you know, these same people you called racist
Speaker 6: for an opportunity is pitle.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to.
Speaker 2: I'd rather go to what's the other league that they created,
Speaker 2: the XFL league or any other league. But it's the
Speaker 2: fact that they boxed him out. They don't want him
Speaker 2: in the league.
Speaker 8: Like that's clear, very clear, And I had to I
Speaker 8: asked earlier in the room, like how good of a
Speaker 8: football player was he? Because the way that they just
Speaker 8: threw him out after all that, you would think that
Speaker 8: he wasn't good.
Speaker 1: But it's a good player.
Speaker 6: This don't even seven years and God has God exalted
Speaker 6: Colin happening into a position of leadership.
Speaker 2: Now understandably, he's been playing football probably since he was
Speaker 2: three years old, so that's all he knows, and that's
Speaker 2: what he wants because you.
Speaker 6: Know something else, now, God got him in another position.
Speaker 6: But when you're looking back and it looks it's easy.
Speaker 2: For you to say, but when you're competitive, and you've
Speaker 2: been playing since you've been three, and all you wanted
Speaker 2: was that ring, and you haven't got that ring. That's
Speaker 2: probably what will make him stop, is getting that ring.
Speaker 6: It's pitiful to call an organization racist compared to the
Speaker 6: plantation and then still be begging to go back on
Speaker 6: that planting.
Speaker 5: America racist and you live here.
Speaker 6: That's a stupid I hate when people say that, because
Speaker 6: I mean, I've never known anything else and anything be
Speaker 6: playing for you three.
Speaker 5: And you have the resources and the means to move
Speaker 5: to another country. You're very successful.
Speaker 3: Lauren.
Speaker 6: What you said makes zero sense, but I'm gonna let
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let the YouTube comments and social media tell
Speaker 6: you how what you said.
Speaker 8: Listen the way that they've been getting me all week.
Speaker 8: That's totally following me. But I just I just hated.
Speaker 8: Just make sure you'll, I mean, when y'all do it
Speaker 8: so people can follow me out eating All right.
Speaker 6: Well that is your rumor report who given at down
Speaker 6: two four after the hour Man, we need to explain
Speaker 6: why you don't fight fries with fire, No boy, we'll discuss,
Speaker 6: all right, We'll getting too that. Next it's the breakfast
Speaker 6: Cluve Gole morning.
Speaker 1: The breakfast club. Your mornings will never be the same.
Speaker 1: They a donkey up to day. Damn that he hogged.
Speaker 3: It's time for donkey the ky.
Speaker 1: I me ain't trying to be donkey today no more.
Speaker 6: They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
Speaker 6: not making these people do these days.
Speaker 5: Called donkey of the day, and it really caught me
Speaker 5: off guard.
Speaker 6: Damn Charlamagne, who got the donkey out of the day today? Yes,
Speaker 6: donkey today for Wednesday, September twenty seventh goes to a
Speaker 6: Houston woman.
Speaker 1: Named Alania Ford.
Speaker 6: Now, this case happened, Okay, this case I'm about to
Speaker 6: tell you all about happened in March of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: But this a valance footage has just been released.
Speaker 6: Okay, see what it happened was Alania Ford used to
Speaker 6: work at Jack in the Box and she shot at
Speaker 6: a customer in the drive through all because they got
Speaker 6: into an argument because Jack in the Box forgot this
Speaker 6: family's order of curly fries. I can't make this kind
Speaker 6: of stuff up. Let's go to Fox twenty six News
Speaker 6: for the report.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 23: A Jack in the Box employee opened fire on drive
Speaker 23: through customers.
Speaker 25: A family had their dog their six year old daughter
Speaker 25: in the car with them when they got into a
Speaker 25: dispute with an employee over a missing curly fries from
Speaker 25: an order at that Jack in the box. As Rainmos
Speaker 25: pulls up to that drive through window, he's then greeted
Speaker 25: by Ala Nia Ford, and once his food was handed over,
Speaker 25: an order of curly fries were missing from the bag.
Speaker 25: When he asked for them, he was told no. That's
Speaker 25: when the argument started. You can see Ramos in his
Speaker 25: red pickup truck going back and forth with Ford. She
Speaker 25: walks away, comes back, and the argument continues. Another employee
Speaker 25: approaches the window to try and resolve the situation, but
Speaker 25: in the midst of that, Ford comes back and starts
Speaker 25: arguing with Ramos yet again. She starts throwing ketchup pack
Speaker 25: is into his truck window, so he started throwing things back,
Speaker 25: but then Ford comes back yet again, points her gun
Speaker 25: directly at Ramos and starts.
Speaker 5: Shooting as he speeds away.
Speaker 25: Luckily, none of those bullets struck Ramos's vehicle and no
Speaker 25: one was injured. Ford was charged and convicted of deadly conduct,
Speaker 25: and recent documents show her probation ended in June of
Speaker 25: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: This is why you can't fight fries with fire Jesus,
Speaker 6: especially in Texas. All right, Look, man, I understand folks
Speaker 6: are going through things. Folks are stressed out emotionally and mentally.
Speaker 6: People are at capacity. And this is really why we
Speaker 6: have to be kind to everyone we encountered, because you
Speaker 6: never know what folks are going through. Not making excuses
Speaker 6: for this woman at all, because she made a choice, right,
Speaker 6: going to get your firearm because y'all having a dispute
Speaker 6: over some damn curly fries is a choice, all right.
Speaker 6: Choosing to fire set firearm at an individual, not just
Speaker 6: an individual, a whole family over curly fries is a choice.
Speaker 6: This man was in the car with his pregnant wife
Speaker 6: and his six year old. I also would like to
Speaker 6: say fast food workers of America, it's never that serious.
Speaker 6: I literally was listening to Bishop tdj's sermon from this
Speaker 6: past Sunday called then interescapeable rolla service. There is no
Speaker 6: greater purpose on this planet for any of us other
Speaker 6: than to be of service. You, as a fast food worker,
Speaker 6: are providing a service. We are grateful for the service
Speaker 6: you provide. It's a bunch of people right now trying
Speaker 6: to get to work, trying to get to school, and
Speaker 6: they are depending on you right now in that drive
Speaker 6: through to be prompt and precise so they can get
Speaker 6: what they ordered in a timely manner to make it
Speaker 6: where they need to be. So drop on the clues
Speaker 6: bonds for all the fast food workers out there being
Speaker 6: service this morning, okay, and doing their job. But this
Speaker 6: is also why we appreciate Chick fil A workers, because
Speaker 6: the one thing all of us remember about Chick fil
Speaker 6: A workers is the.
Speaker 1: Way they make us feel. Okay, they make us feel
Speaker 1: so good. All right.
Speaker 6: My wife and I got Crystal franchises. We got Crystal
Speaker 6: franchises opening. That's all I want our employees to be
Speaker 6: is kind. I want folks to leave the establishment feeling
Speaker 6: good because the interaction is pleasant. If something is missing
Speaker 6: from the order, you check the receipt, see that they
Speaker 6: did indeed pay for it, and give it to them.
Speaker 6: This why don't why I don't understand, Alanie Afford. What
Speaker 6: would it have hurt you to give this family their
Speaker 6: order of curly fries? How much is in order? Let
Speaker 6: them a little funky ass curly fries a dollar?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 6: At the end of the night, it's probably a bunch
Speaker 6: of curly fries left over that y'all just throw out.
Speaker 6: There's probably several orders of curly fries dropped on the floor.
Speaker 6: Jack in the Box right now, the president of the
Speaker 6: Fat Lives Matter Committee who works here at the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 6: You'll get to see him in twenty twenty four. We
Speaker 6: need him to lose some weight before he makes his debut.
Speaker 6: But he wants me to remind y'all fast food workers
Speaker 6: that you don't get employee of the month for saving
Speaker 6: the company money on any products.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: It don't matter if it's fountain drinks, sauces, apple pies, napkins, scraws,
Speaker 6: French fries. You don't get a bonus for saving these items.
Speaker 6: Your boss does not walk up to you and say.
Speaker 1: We love the words.
Speaker 6: You don't give people anything extracted, okay, and now you
Speaker 6: have been promoted. This never happens, and I promise you
Speaker 6: Jack in the Box employees, Jack is not dying for you,
Speaker 6: all right. There's no reason to take your job that
Speaker 6: serious that you get in a dispute over some damn
Speaker 6: curly fries. And the damn sure is not serious enough
Speaker 6: for you to pull a pistol out and get things popping,
Speaker 6: like the grease those fries came out of.
Speaker 1: Unafford.
Speaker 6: Un Forward was convicted of aggravated the soul with a
Speaker 6: deadly weapon. Documents revealed that her probation concluded in June
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty three. Aliana, you really tried your hardest
Speaker 6: to go from jack in the box to being in
Speaker 6: the box eating box.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 6: You just got probation for this. Whoa, You are actually
Speaker 6: about the wrong life. Instead of being about thug life,
Speaker 6: you should be about that fast food life, because when
Speaker 6: you choose this fast food life, you have to be
Speaker 6: about this fast food life. You have to know that
Speaker 6: when items is missing, folks are going to complain, especially
Speaker 6: with fries, because I'm not sharing my fries. I got
Speaker 6: a pregnant wife and a six year old in the car.
Speaker 6: They want fries, you know, damn well. Women and kids
Speaker 6: look at our fries as their fries, especially when they
Speaker 6: don't have no fries, so you get them their own fries. Aliana,
Speaker 6: it is your job as a fast food worker to serve.
Speaker 6: Because as a customer, I did my job and served you.
Speaker 6: I spent my money with the establishment you work at,
Speaker 6: which ultimately helps you to.
Speaker 1: Pay your bills.
Speaker 6: Look, we all make mistakes, and you know that saying
Speaker 6: don't be afraid to make mistakes because that's how you learn.
Speaker 6: And bro, well, this don't apply to this, all right,
Speaker 6: Shooting at someone over some curly fries is a mistake
Speaker 6: you should be afraid to make. And this is why
Speaker 6: I never underestimate the power of human stupidity, because only
Speaker 6: two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And
Speaker 6: I'm not even sure about the former. Okay, please give
Speaker 6: Ali on the Ford the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you are the dog gee of the day,
Speaker 1: the dogee all the day.
Speaker 8: Ye Now, I want curly fries. Never mind, never mind,
Speaker 8: never mind.
Speaker 2: Never shouldn't the guy that didn't get the curly fries
Speaker 2: be mad?
Speaker 1: And how you mad and shoot at meat? And you
Speaker 1: didn't give me the crim exactly?
Speaker 5: Like why can we talk about the sauces again? Because
Speaker 5: they be holding on to them sauces tight.
Speaker 1: I have no idea why. And you said curly fries
Speaker 1: like ninety nine they be like three dollars.
Speaker 2: Now, curly fries at Jack in the box and Donald
Speaker 2: three dollars two.
Speaker 1: Damn, the cur are good. We got Fries Houston.
Speaker 9: I like that.
Speaker 1: You got Frid at home and she's been working there
Speaker 1: thirteen years. Still, I just want to put that out there. Damn.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, well peace, p E T. Will
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow, see you later.
Speaker 1: What we're doing the Colin Kaepernick covey? Yeah, okay, all right, well.
Speaker 2: Let's open up the phone lines eight hundred and five
Speaker 2: eight five one oh five on if you' just joining us.
Speaker 2: Laura la Rosso reported about Colin Kaepernick sending me Jets
Speaker 2: a letter, right, and what did the letter say?
Speaker 8: The letter said that he wanted to lead their practice
Speaker 8: squad because of everything that happened with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: So for two reasons.
Speaker 8: Number one, he wants to help them get ready for
Speaker 8: the opponents are going to come up against, including like
Speaker 8: a jailing Hurts. And number two, it will show the
Speaker 8: team that he is ready to play. And in case
Speaker 8: anything happens with the people that they may be going
Speaker 8: with to replace Aaron, he's right there.
Speaker 5: He's ready. He's the best contenter.
Speaker 1: Ray.
Speaker 6: That letter was tragically sad and downright pathetic, and like
Speaker 6: I just said, Colin Kaepernick has let his set back
Speaker 6: come his identity and I hate that for him.
Speaker 2: Well let's talk about it. Eight hundred five eight five
Speaker 2: one oh five on what are your thoughts. Do you
Speaker 2: feel like Charlemagne at the letter sat and he shouldn't
Speaker 2: be thinking about getting back in the league, or do
Speaker 2: you feel like he's been doing it since he was
Speaker 2: three years old and he still has goals, he still
Speaker 2: has things on this.
Speaker 6: Point, At what point do you realize God exalted you
Speaker 6: into a better position. God exalted you to a greater purpose.
Speaker 6: Because that's what I feel like he did with Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 6: He exalted him into a position of leadership in regarded
Speaker 6: the activism. Well, let's talk about it when we come back,
Speaker 6: because you know, although also you know, I wouldn't be
Speaker 6: mad if Colin Kaepernick went to an HBCU and began
Speaker 6: and started coaching.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad at that. That's fantastic.
Speaker 5: Is that not on the table? Like why?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 5: That's so on brain, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I would love. Nothing, We'll talk
Speaker 1: about those programs.
Speaker 2: That's what I would love because he would bring eyes
Speaker 2: to those programs like a high with a Hampton a
Speaker 2: fam you or nothing would be.
Speaker 6: On the table because you can block your blessings when
Speaker 6: you're when you're unwilling to let certain things go.
Speaker 2: But let's discuss. We'll talk when we come back. Eight
Speaker 2: hundred five eight five one oh five one. It's the
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. Come morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 6: It's topic time called eight hundred five five five one
Speaker 6: to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Morning everybody.
Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Laura LaRosa, our special guest host is here. And if
Speaker 2: you're just joining us, we're talking about Colin Kaepernick. Now
Speaker 2: you reported the story Lauren in rumors? What what was
Speaker 2: the letter that he wrote to the Jets.
Speaker 8: Colin Kaepernick wrote a letter to the Jets asking to
Speaker 8: lead their practice team for two reasons. He says that
Speaker 8: he thinks that he can get the team ready for
Speaker 8: all the competition are going to be coming up against
Speaker 8: in a way that won't like Threaten Zach or whoever
Speaker 8: will be playing in Aaron Rodgers spot. But also he
Speaker 8: wants the team to see that he is ready to play.
Speaker 8: He is the best contingency plan if anyone gets injured
Speaker 8: or just can't do the job.
Speaker 2: So we're asking eight hundred and five A five one
Speaker 2: oh five one, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Charlomanne, I'm gonna say exactly what I said a little
Speaker 1: while ago.
Speaker 6: It's tragically sad and downright pathetic that Colin Kaepernick wrote
Speaker 6: that letter because he has led his set back become
Speaker 6: his identity.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I said it a million times.
Speaker 6: God exalted Colin Kaepernick into a position of leadership in
Speaker 6: regards to activism, and it pains me to see that
Speaker 6: man begging to be in a league that he called
Speaker 6: a racist and compared to a plantation.
Speaker 1: And I hate that he can never speak for himself.
Speaker 6: He always got somebody else speaking for him or putting
Speaker 6: out messaging for him.
Speaker 1: That's so whacked to me.
Speaker 6: And I wish Colin the best and all his endeavors,
Speaker 6: but just begging the same people he called racist for
Speaker 6: an opportunity is absolutely pitiful to me.
Speaker 1: Lauren.
Speaker 8: I thought that at first, if he got back in,
Speaker 8: he was going to be able to do like the
Speaker 8: whole I can change within. But y'all saying it's not
Speaker 8: giving up. I don't understand why he would want to
Speaker 8: be there, like I would never go back to something
Speaker 8: I left that wasn't good for me.
Speaker 2: I do see both sides, right, And the reason I
Speaker 2: see both sides is because I do feel like he's
Speaker 2: begging to get back in the league, and I don't
Speaker 2: like that. I don't like the fact that the league
Speaker 2: has boxed you out.
Speaker 5: The letter is even very yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Yes, like so many reasons league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they give you so many reasons why they don't
Speaker 2: want you in the league, and you still are begging
Speaker 2: to get back in the league.
Speaker 1: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: But on the flip side, trying to sit in Colin
Speaker 2: Kaepernick's shoes as a young boy at three years old,
Speaker 2: that's been doing football and football ain't easy, right as
Speaker 2: a as a dad that my kids play football. It's
Speaker 2: five days a week, rain, snow or whatever, one game
Speaker 2: on Sunday and then back on practice again. It's very
Speaker 2: It's a lot, and these are years. He's probably been
Speaker 2: doing this for twenty thirty years, his whole life, so
Speaker 2: it's his whole life. So to him, he's probably never
Speaker 2: closed that chapter. And that chapter might be a ring,
Speaker 2: it might be playoffs, it might be one of those
Speaker 2: things that he's never got that and.
Speaker 1: Let's not let's be let's be serious. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: The Jets are trash. The Jets need somebody. So it's
Speaker 2: not like it's a it's a far fetched I think.
Speaker 8: To me listening to y'all talk about the quarterbacks that
Speaker 8: they have right now in that position and how bad
Speaker 8: they are. And the fact that he wrote this letter
Speaker 8: and it basically went ignored and they brought in somebody else,
Speaker 8: that hurt my heart even more because I feel like
Speaker 8: the way that I look at Colin Kaepernick for what
Speaker 8: he did, it's just like, man, forget them people like
Speaker 8: we got you wherever you go, right. Athletes religiously cannot
Speaker 8: give it up sometimes.
Speaker 1: Until they forced to.
Speaker 6: So when God exalts you into a position that's greater
Speaker 6: than football, you know you got to leave who you
Speaker 6: are and love who you are and look forward to
Speaker 6: who you will become.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like, I think that the purpose that he serves now
Speaker 6: and has served over the last few years is way
Speaker 6: greater than football, and it's kind of a slap in
Speaker 6: the face to God to not embrace that and not
Speaker 6: accept that and continue to beg these same people you
Speaker 6: called racist and said the league was a plantation.
Speaker 1: You're begging to be back and change college.
Speaker 6: This is I'm using your words, right, But you said
Speaker 6: that this is a plantation, So you beg it. Please
Speaker 6: chave me up masters, I'll even you can put me
Speaker 6: on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be on the team. Chame
Speaker 1: me up with the practice squad. Ain't like that.
Speaker 2: But it's also and I'm not comparing them to a druggy,
Speaker 2: but it's almost like a druggie, right, And when I
Speaker 2: mean a druggie, you can't tell a druggie when it's
Speaker 2: time to give it up. They have to tell themselves.
Speaker 2: They have to say, you know what, I'm giving up drugs.
Speaker 2: And for him, he has to give up that chase.
Speaker 2: And he hasn't given up that chase.
Speaker 6: There's also why I don't want to hear anybody comparing
Speaker 6: him to Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: He will do that because when Mhammad.
Speaker 2: Ali, what people do that?
Speaker 6: Because when because when Muhammad Ali, you know, got his
Speaker 6: boxing licensed script, you know, he ate that because he
Speaker 6: understood that what he was standing for was bigger than boxing.
Speaker 6: But he got to fight again. You know he got
Speaker 6: after a few years, but he but he But in
Speaker 6: those few years, he never made it about him. He
Speaker 6: always kept it about the movement. He always kept it
Speaker 6: about the message that he was standing for always. And
Speaker 6: when you make stands that are bigger than you, you
Speaker 6: know that there's going to be consequences and repercussions and
Speaker 6: that comes with it, and you have to be willing
Speaker 6: to deal with that when you make these kind of stands.
Speaker 1: But let's go to the phone line. Hello, who's this can?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 1: What's your thought? What's your take?
Speaker 12: But saying man, football is it is hard. So I'm
Speaker 12: a man of guard, So I understand the heart. Whatever's
Speaker 12: in your heart? What was for you? So the man
Speaker 12: wrote a letter, It's like you messed up with one
Speaker 12: of your friends or your mom or your dad. You
Speaker 12: need to seek people you want to put a letter
Speaker 12: to write it take it back in the league.
Speaker 6: For black men, black man a black man. He didn't
Speaker 6: mess up with the NFL. The NFL did him dirty.
Speaker 6: He didn't mess up, So why should he be writing
Speaker 6: a letter begging to get back with the person who
Speaker 6: broke his heart, that did him dirty?
Speaker 1: Hello, who's not using no common sense here this.
Speaker 26: Money, Yes, just unique unique.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts?
Speaker 27: Good morning, good morning. Yes, you know what, it's terrible
Speaker 27: that Colin Kaepernick even has the beg for his die back.
Speaker 27: Why because he's a great football player and I think
Speaker 27: it's no reason for him not to be able to
Speaker 27: do both things, advocate for black rights and rights with
Speaker 27: black people and the treatment you know that we're going through,
Speaker 27: and him being a football player because that's what he does.
Speaker 17: So yeah, the only thing.
Speaker 8: Is if you're doing both, there's gonna be so much repercussions.
Speaker 8: Like there's no way you can go into a job
Speaker 8: and say, y'all racist, y'all do this, y'all do that
Speaker 8: and expect them the employee of the month. You like,
Speaker 8: there's a separate there has to be a separation of two.
Speaker 6: I would think once you say that about your your
Speaker 6: your your employee, you done with them.
Speaker 8: I would think once you think that unless you need
Speaker 8: money or something like that. But he doesn't need that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what the Keith Yo, what's hey?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 13: This is Keith from Florida. Man, isn't isn't Colin breaking?
Speaker 13: Like one of the four they eight laws of power.
Speaker 26: You never beg your enemy for mercy.
Speaker 17: Why would you do something like that?
Speaker 13: You already caught them races? Why would you go back
Speaker 13: to try to apply in the league that said numerous
Speaker 13: times that they don't want to.
Speaker 12: I called my one of.
Speaker 13: My employees race.
Speaker 3: I will never go back to that job again.
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, it's the truth.
Speaker 6: Once you set fire to the plantation, the plantation is
Speaker 6: burned down, you think Jangles that fight, I'm gonna use
Speaker 6: a real character.
Speaker 1: You think Nat Turner, you know, was rescuing all.
Speaker 6: Those people and killed all those slave masters in their
Speaker 6: family only to bring people back to the plantation.
Speaker 5: You lost it.
Speaker 1: Once you do that, you're you're trying to escape.
Speaker 5: You ask of us? Are Kanya eight.
Speaker 2: Five eight five five one? We're talking Colin Kaepernick. Colin
Speaker 2: Kaepernick wrote a letter to the Jet said he wanted
Speaker 2: to be on their practice the practice squad.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts? Let's discuss. It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 15: Go morning.
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Speaker 1: It's DJ Envy Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got our special guest,
Speaker 2: co host Laura Larossa. Yes, sir, and if you're just
Speaker 2: joining us, we're talking about Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: Now. What happened with Colin Kaepernick and a letter he
Speaker 1: sent to the Jets.
Speaker 8: So, Colin Kaepernick wrote a letter to the Jets asking
Speaker 8: to lead their practice squad, to help them get ready
Speaker 8: for the opposition and to basically show them whenever they
Speaker 8: need a quarterback, he's ready.
Speaker 5: He's going to be the go to. And yes, I said,
Speaker 5: the practice squad.
Speaker 1: I don't like him begging for the spot.
Speaker 2: I do understand that he's been doing this probably since
Speaker 2: a young kid, and he's been doing it all his
Speaker 2: life and this is what he wants. He he hasn't
Speaker 2: closed that chapter in his life. But I just feel
Speaker 2: like at this point, you beg it and I would
Speaker 2: prefer you use everything that you know, your skills, the practices,
Speaker 2: and I would rather go to an HBC you and
Speaker 2: teach those student be so fun. I mean, and there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of them that need the help, that need
Speaker 2: the eyes on them, and I think that will get
Speaker 2: a lot of students to go to HBCUs because the
Speaker 2: eyes will be in at school.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be the most powerful thing to do.
Speaker 6: But the reason, the reason that that Colin probably can't
Speaker 6: see things like that is because he's let his identity.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's let his set back become his identity.
Speaker 6: And we all know, in order to stop blocking blessings,
Speaker 6: you have to let things go.
Speaker 1: You can't hold on to things of the past. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You gotta let go of the past, but keep the
Speaker 6: lessons it taught you. You know what I mean, But
Speaker 6: you got to you gotta let it go.
Speaker 5: Identity, What do you mean?
Speaker 6: Because he's let his set back become his identity because
Speaker 6: God exalted him into a position of leadership and activism.
Speaker 6: If Colin would have really just focused on that and
Speaker 6: kept that going and said, really, if the NFL, I
Speaker 6: didn't call them racist, I didn't call it a plantation,
Speaker 6: I don't want to be over there no more. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be over here helping my people, we'd be looking
Speaker 6: at him like that. But now we're looking at him
Speaker 6: as this pitiful person who keeps begging the NFL, begging
Speaker 6: his plantation to be back in change.
Speaker 1: Let's go to that I don't like it. You got
Speaker 1: mad people on the line.
Speaker 13: I know who's this, Mayor Rich timas Maultvernon.
Speaker 1: Hey, mayor Rich from Mount Vernon.
Speaker 13: You the mayor of the actual mayor.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I had the sledge of engaging Kaepernick crew and
Speaker 22: bassonors pass when he was going through the movement. And
Speaker 22: the reality is, you know, look, perhaps your own should
Speaker 22: ask a bigger question.
Speaker 13: How come the league won't let him play?
Speaker 12: It's not like you can't throw the ball. It's not
Speaker 12: like he didn't playing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 13: You know he's been blacklist and that we know if
Speaker 13: we know this.
Speaker 22: But the bottom line is, just like any other team
Speaker 22: that needs to quarter back should consider Cap. I say,
Speaker 22: bring back Cap, give him a shot to throw the
Speaker 22: ball again, even though he you know, let him move
Speaker 22: and it's time him to get back on the field
Speaker 22: and face the ball.
Speaker 6: Can ask agal questions behind, can ask a bigger question,
Speaker 6: why do we want this for Cap? If if Cap
Speaker 6: said that point, if Cap said is racist, If Cap
Speaker 6: said he's been blacklisted, if Cap said it's the plantation,
Speaker 6: why would we want to send our brother back on
Speaker 6: the plantation?
Speaker 13: Well, he said he wants to play. Maybe there have
Speaker 13: been changes.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 22: Look, Jay Z has had success in negotiating some I
Speaker 22: want to call a form of reparations for the league,
Speaker 22: right for the players, for the entertainers, the.
Speaker 13: Music scene in the pastor Super Bowls.
Speaker 22: So I think it's kind for Cap to get back
Speaker 22: to play.
Speaker 12: Why not let him get on the field and play ball?
Speaker 1: Thank you man.
Speaker 2: I will say this though, and this is not right,
Speaker 2: and I know people are gonna be mad at the
Speaker 2: way that this is said.
Speaker 1: But if you create a stink in the.
Speaker 2: League right where people feel a certain way about you,
Speaker 2: this is a business.
Speaker 1: And if I own one of those teams, would you
Speaker 1: want to hire.
Speaker 2: Kaepernick on your team not knowing what he's going to do,
Speaker 2: not knowing what he's going to bring to your team
Speaker 2: when you just want to bring wins?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's see, that's a decision that
Speaker 1: if you're an owner.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those owners which are not black,
Speaker 2: are white owners. We have one black owner, which is magic.
Speaker 8: They don't even want to hear from the wives of
Speaker 8: the players, So you think that they want to get
Speaker 8: put Colin Kaepernick on their team to then be able
Speaker 8: to have conversations and like all of that right, No
Speaker 8: to answer your question, but this is all stuff that
Speaker 8: we know, so I don't like unless he's able to
Speaker 8: come in and really like from the inside, infiltrate, I
Speaker 8: don't see what it does for his life is not
Speaker 8: just about him in football anymore. Like he is so
Speaker 8: much more now to us what I thought he is.
Speaker 8: He he's going to realize it.
Speaker 1: Jazzy, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 26: I'm sitting outside of Ale before I go in.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, but us.
Speaker 26: But anyways, I agree with Charlie Man mainly because of
Speaker 26: the fact that like you're begging to be somewhere and
Speaker 26: where they don't want you, Like it's.
Speaker 9: Kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 26: Yes, in a sense, it's like instead of you know,
Speaker 26: I understand that he's football is his life, whatever, But
Speaker 26: create your own money, create your own table, Do what
Speaker 26: junior league do, training camp. Do something that they'll see
Speaker 26: you for you. They'll see you by yourself instead of
Speaker 26: surround you with that NFL trauma, that NFL bull crap.
Speaker 26: Like yeah, Roger Goodell like gave him an apology, but
Speaker 26: wasn't really an apology because he still ain't hired. So
Speaker 26: why are you still trying to get.
Speaker 1: In there, and it's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 6: It's sad that we want to we were begging him
Speaker 6: to go with It's like we're pushing him to go back.
Speaker 6: It's like, no, no, you you left the plantation. You
Speaker 6: told us about the atrocities that are happening on the plantation.
Speaker 2: The plantation or was he fired from the plantation? It
Speaker 2: was fired, right because he didn't love. He was fired,
Speaker 2: he was let go.
Speaker 1: And then he called him out the rousis and obviously
Speaker 1: that that was true because they apologize. They cut him
Speaker 1: a check. We don't know how much the check was for.
Speaker 2: And he wants to play, and I get it, but
Speaker 2: it's to the point where.
Speaker 1: It's like when do you let it go?
Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, he's been doing this
Speaker 2: since probably the age of three. This is all he knows.
Speaker 2: And that book, that chapter in this book is not
Speaker 2: done for himself.
Speaker 6: Man, when God exalts you to a position of leadership
Speaker 6: the way he did Colin Kaepernick, you have to go lead.
Speaker 8: Playing devil's advocate though, right if he was to be
Speaker 8: able to get back on the team, and he can't
Speaker 8: really do or say too much just him playing, is
Speaker 8: that a symbol of aha in your faces, Like does
Speaker 8: that mean anything?
Speaker 6: No, it's a symbol of oh we racist, We the plantation.
Speaker 6: But you begged us to come, get put back and change.
Speaker 6: Now you back in change working for us again. And
Speaker 6: how was that going to change the league in any way,
Speaker 6: shape or form? Like, how was that going to change
Speaker 6: the system of the NFL? And Lauren, you said to
Speaker 6: me what you asked me earlier, You said, what'd you
Speaker 6: say about America?
Speaker 5: Oh? I said, you still stay here even though there's
Speaker 5: a lot Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The difference I think is America is a system that
Speaker 6: we were all going into.
Speaker 1: And it's a system that promises us certain things.
Speaker 6: It promises it's citizens certain things, free them, liberty and
Speaker 6: justice for all. What we've historically seen that this system
Speaker 6: only provided justice for some, and we have fought against
Speaker 6: this system since the beginning of time.
Speaker 1: We aren't begging to be a part of this system.
Speaker 6: We are a part of this system, and as it
Speaker 6: currently is, we don't like it, and we're demanding for
Speaker 6: things to change.
Speaker 1: Colin not doing that.
Speaker 6: He called them racists, compared them to a plantation, and
Speaker 6: now he's just begging to be a part of that system.
Speaker 6: Did you hear anything in that letter that sound like
Speaker 6: he's trying to change the system. It sounds like he's
Speaker 6: trying to conform. He wants to play football. He trying,
Speaker 6: he's ready to conform. Like, No, I don't like it, bro,
Speaker 6: I don't like it. I think it's pathetic.
Speaker 2: And then it gets back to and I know it's
Speaker 2: costly to doing the things like ice Cubi's doing and
Speaker 2: creating our.
Speaker 1: Own spaces in our own league.
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, we can't create another NFL because
Speaker 2: that will cost billions of billions and billions and billions
Speaker 2: of dollars. But we've seen the success that ice Cubis
Speaker 2: had with Big Three and it's gave given a lot
Speaker 2: of players another opportunity, and hopefully one day we can
Speaker 2: create that for ourselves.
Speaker 1: And also, man, there's one more point. Yes, Colin took.
Speaker 6: A knee for police brutality. We salute him, we celebrate him.
Speaker 6: He took a knee, you know, to raise awareness to
Speaker 6: the brutality that black and browns came on were facing
Speaker 6: it the hands of the police. As soon as he
Speaker 6: got backlash, as soon as he got blacklisted, somehow that
Speaker 6: movement turned into justice for Colin what happened to the
Speaker 6: bigger issue, which is taking the knee for police brutality.
Speaker 1: That's what this was about.
Speaker 6: This wasn't about, you know, oh, Colin's getting blacklisted from
Speaker 6: the NFL. We should have expected Colin to get blacklisted
Speaker 6: from the NFL. When you make a stand like that
Speaker 6: and then you called the NFL racist and called the
Speaker 6: NFL a plantation.
Speaker 1: We should expect that. And he got to be able
Speaker 1: to eat that.
Speaker 6: And once again, that's why I don't like when people
Speaker 6: compare to Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali ate it.
Speaker 6: He got his boxing lin and script away from him,
Speaker 6: and he understood that he was standing for something bigger
Speaker 6: than his boxing career.
Speaker 1: And I get it. I didn't expect him to get
Speaker 1: fired out the league.
Speaker 2: And the reason I didn't get I didn't expect that
Speaker 2: is because he wasn't the only one. There was numerous
Speaker 2: players neely and he was the only one that pretty
Speaker 2: much was.
Speaker 1: There was a couple like that that got that X,
Speaker 1: but there was a lot of players doing it.
Speaker 6: The first Soldjio over the hill always takes the most bullets, right,
Speaker 6: all right, Well, we got rooms on the way, but
Speaker 6: we're talking about yes, we're.
Speaker 8: Talking about Nick Cannon and him saying that Mariah Carey
Speaker 8: saved his life when he first got diagnosed with lucas.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to that next. It's the breakfast
Speaker 2: slogan woman the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 15: All right, let's get right to it. Rumor.
Speaker 18: I think a lot of people will recognize the boys
Speaker 18: to the name on.
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Lauren came in Hot.
Speaker 5: Now Nick Cannon is talking about Mariah Carey.
Speaker 8: He sat down with a podcast called The Diary of
Speaker 8: a ce oh, and he recalled the time where he
Speaker 8: found out that he had lupus, and once he said
Speaker 8: that he credits to Mariah Carey for finding out or
Speaker 8: helping him to find out, but also once he found
Speaker 8: out what was happening.
Speaker 5: She basically saved this life. Let's listen to the audio.
Speaker 1: She was my rock man.
Speaker 16: Was She went hard, to be honest, Probably wouldn't be
Speaker 16: alive if it wasn't for how hard she went, you know,
Speaker 16: with the doctors, with me, my stubbornness. You know, she
Speaker 16: was the perfect helpmate, the perfect matriarch, the perfect mom,
Speaker 16: the perfect wife in those scenarios, because granted, she's who
Speaker 16: she is and dealing with all the pressures of being
Speaker 16: Mariah Carey but then being loving enough to.
Speaker 1: Take on all of my stuff.
Speaker 16: And it probably took a toll on us just because
Speaker 16: of the person I was in my head and the
Speaker 16: struggles that I was dealing with. So I probably took
Speaker 16: a toll on our relationship, but it definitely brought.
Speaker 1: Us closer to the other.
Speaker 8: And he said that they were an aspen one time
Speaker 8: and he had like went out for a jog and
Speaker 8: he came home and he passed out, and she came
Speaker 8: home and found him passed out and forced him to
Speaker 8: go to the er. And that's how he found out
Speaker 8: that he had lupus, and once they realized that his
Speaker 8: immune system was attacking his kidney.
Speaker 6: So that's what a good woman does for our dumb asses.
Speaker 8: I'm so glad you know y'all dumb because you knowing
Speaker 8: a lot of stuff in.
Speaker 1: Here, all right, all right? In relationship we are dumb. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 5: Will say easy on the dumb, but not easy on me. Yesterday,
Speaker 5: we're gonna talk.
Speaker 2: About this, but I will say this, what what I
Speaker 2: You know, people, if you look at what they say
Speaker 2: about Nick Cannon, they say he a sucker, he's a
Speaker 2: sent but people he gets all the time.
Speaker 1: Is what we talked about Mariah Carey, but he loves him.
Speaker 1: That's his ex wife, children, his life.
Speaker 5: We talk about all the mothers of his kids in
Speaker 5: this way, so all.
Speaker 6: The mothers of the kids didn't find him passed out
Speaker 6: and take him to the hospital.
Speaker 8: Do y'all think that if Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey
Speaker 8: were to get back together it was kind of because
Speaker 8: people a lot of people feel like he's having the
Speaker 8: other kids and with all these other women because he's
Speaker 8: missing something and it's her.
Speaker 5: Do y'all think that that would Is that like a thing?
Speaker 5: Can that be something?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. This is the kind of conversation
Speaker 1: y'all be having a black women.
Speaker 5: No, not just something.
Speaker 8: You never heard that, Like, you know, men are go
Speaker 8: out and do things because are looking for something. Like
Speaker 8: people feel like Mariah Carey is like that missing piece
Speaker 8: to his puzzle.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Mariah's missing peace, but it does
Speaker 2: feel like he's missing something. It feels like he wants
Speaker 2: something and he has.
Speaker 6: Now you're talking, there you go. I don't know if
Speaker 6: she's I don't know if yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5: Just take away from the black woman.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I think it brings a good point up.
Speaker 6: I don't know if Mariah Carreys was missing from uh
Speaker 6: Nick's life, but maybe something is missing, Maybe there is
Speaker 6: something that he needed to heal.
Speaker 8: I'm not for sure, but I'm just saying, like you know,
Speaker 8: those things have been said, but I will say that
Speaker 8: it's good to hear him always because he does talk
Speaker 8: about our lot and I always used to feel like why,
Speaker 8: but hearing this story like yeah, like she literally saved
Speaker 8: his life.
Speaker 1: I'm positive it's good for the kids to hear that.
Speaker 6: The kids are like, yeah, I thought you want to
Speaker 6: hear pops talking about the This is so wild.
Speaker 2: Think about it like this, right if if somebody is
Speaker 2: beefing with their baby mom and they talk bad about him.
Speaker 1: Like, what are you talk bad about your baby mom? White?
Speaker 2: He talks positive about his ex, talks positive about his
Speaker 2: baby mom is his ex wife and the mother of
Speaker 2: his kids, and people.
Speaker 1: What are you always talking about? What are you like?
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 8: I think it's because it's Mariah Carey. You people feel
Speaker 8: like he was the like he was more involved in
Speaker 8: the relationship, like because of the power dynamic, say with
Speaker 8: your chest.
Speaker 5: Because of the power dynamicep.
Speaker 8: Mariah Carey just gives way more icon like Nick Cannons.
Speaker 5: The icon of icon. But people, but people.
Speaker 8: People will argue that that Mariah Carey had the upper
Speaker 8: hand in the relationship. Why, I don't know, they just do.
Speaker 8: I think it's the ambiance and the glamor of.
Speaker 1: He never made honey, y'all. I think y'all comparing music
Speaker 1: catalog don't say, y'all.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, guys, I'm regurgitating conversations.
Speaker 1: If you're compaying music catalogs, it's not even.
Speaker 5: Why would his music catalog?
Speaker 1: I think that's what you'.
Speaker 6: I think y'all looking at this as musician married the musician.
Speaker 6: You don't look at it like that entrepreneur married to exactly.
Speaker 6: I think people don't. People don't really know a lot
Speaker 6: of what Nick Cannon does get it sent to a
Speaker 6: phenomenal businessman, and Mariah carries his outward celebrity and big
Speaker 6: on the outside. So I really think that y'all are
Speaker 6: doing y'all only say the power dynamic because Mariah Carey
Speaker 6: made fantasy and Nick made all.
Speaker 5: Right, that is the room in the system.
Speaker 1: No we don't. No radio stations in the country.
Speaker 5: Does Why would you do what's respect?
Speaker 1: We can't.
Speaker 6: That's regards to I love Nick the person dropping the
Speaker 6: clues bombs for Nick the human, Nick the artist.
Speaker 2: For I'm gonna put Jigglo in the systems. The next
Speaker 2: time you talk about don't have it, I do not
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: For y'all. That is messed up.
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Speaker 2: standing on couches and chairs.
Speaker 1: But today is the young.
Speaker 3: Man's I heard somebody did that.
Speaker 13: That was you.
Speaker 2: I just want to wish to brother a happy birthday
Speaker 2: and just say you know, we support you, We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 3: Now, I really appreciate you guys to thank you for
Speaker 3: doing any plans this weekend. And again to a little
Speaker 3: something what's her name?
Speaker 2: That I was gifted the bottle of cosago so that
Speaker 2: I'll be put to use this weekend.
Speaker 8: That happened to Wow, the gifting of the cosago. There's
Speaker 8: way better to kill out there.
Speaker 1: How old he is?
Speaker 15: Wow?
Speaker 5: Eight, that's gonna hurt.
Speaker 1: You, won't you give them something?
Speaker 5: I didn't know today was your birthday gifts.
Speaker 8: But if you we head over to the Lobo section
Speaker 8: over here and take some shots, I can expose you know.
Speaker 1: Your going up here?
Speaker 15: Okay?
Speaker 1: Well, and also too, you know Brandon is from Ghana.
Speaker 3: Right, I was born in America, but yeah, my family
Speaker 3: is from Ghana and.
Speaker 6: You go to Ghana often? Yes, do you abide by
Speaker 6: the rules of Ghana? I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1: Sex toys. Engaging in oral antal sex is illegal and done.
Speaker 3: I live here.
Speaker 2: Okay, go down your finish salutor Brandon out there all
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