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Speaker 2: library and tell them ratsent you. First of all, so
Speaker 2: to talk just straight up about Russia invading Ukraine, Okay,
Speaker 2: which is a very aggressive act that was around February
Speaker 2: twenty second of twenty twenty two, is what we are
Speaker 2: knowing that as these days. But it really went back
Speaker 2: all the way to twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, when Obama
Speaker 2: was in office President Obama respectively, and they started to
Speaker 2: attack CRIMEA and go after you know, civilian airliners and
Speaker 2: admitting Russia admitting that stay out of the airspace. Right,
Speaker 2: let's talk about that. Let's go there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's do it. Yeah, I think it does
Speaker 3: get lost. We're now a year over a year and
Speaker 3: a half now from this recent invasion, like you said
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, something that I know I was
Speaker 3: following on the podcast this week explained as we started
Speaker 3: early off in twenty twenty one, like the October time
Speaker 3: frame of twenty twenty one, kind of seeing well, first
Speaker 3: listening to what putin the president of Russia was saying
Speaker 3: about what he wants to do, and then verifying those
Speaker 3: words that he's saying with what he had done previously.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought up twenty twelve twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: The war really started in twenty fourteen with Crimea. Russia
Speaker 3: invaded Crimea under the same auspice that they did in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. That Crimea is the people of Crimea
Speaker 3: identify a Russian, they are Russian, and we are going
Speaker 3: to take back that land as Russian land. Now what
Speaker 3: was different about twenty twenty two? What I was trying
Speaker 3: to look into as an intel analyst is is the
Speaker 3: invasion of twenty two twenty two going to be different?
Speaker 3: Is it only going to be those eastern parts? Or
Speaker 3: is there greater aspirations from Putin? And before he did
Speaker 3: the invasion, he started to talk not even about the
Speaker 3: Ukrainian invasion, but even follow on points what he considered,
Speaker 3: you know, parts of the of the Soviet Union, and
Speaker 3: he wanted to return the Soviet Union back to its
Speaker 3: glory during the Cold War times. And in order to
Speaker 3: do that, that means Finland is in the cross hairs,
Speaker 3: Sweden is in the crossers. Those are huge countries to
Speaker 3: talk about, but you've also got Moldova and that has
Speaker 3: already got Transnistria, which is this disputed area of Moldova,
Speaker 3: that's that's Russian, and the Moldovans say that's ours. The
Speaker 3: Russians say that that's theirs. So it's kind of like
Speaker 3: that similar thing with Ukraine. So in identifying what he
Speaker 3: was saying there, it became clear to me and clear
Speaker 3: to the US government, I would say that or the
Speaker 3: Department of Defense, that this is not just this brief
Speaker 3: special military operation as Putin would call it. It was
Speaker 3: going to be a full on invasion. And the hopes
Speaker 3: the end goal of that invasion was to take Kiev,
Speaker 3: install a pro Russian institution, a pro Russian government into Ukraine,
Speaker 3: and then take that over to then follow on. And
Speaker 3: so the goal was always it never ended with just Ukraine.
Speaker 3: It was going to be a follow on from.
Speaker 2: That, right, And then do you feel that the election
Speaker 2: of twenty sixteen to twenty twenty disrupted that plan where
Speaker 2: at twenty twenty he wasn't getting the same buy off
Speaker 2: that was out there from President former President Trump, who
Speaker 2: was agreeing with Putin and like you know, sitting there
Speaker 2: basically just holding his hand along with a lot of
Speaker 2: other leaders that were agreeing to do this invasion.
Speaker 3: So that I mean, that's a very interesting question. And
Speaker 3: it's something that former President Trump brings up a lot
Speaker 3: right now because he's you know, he's in a campaign
Speaker 3: to be the Republican candidate and saying that, you know,
Speaker 3: on his watch, this this would have never happened. You
Speaker 3: have a lot of people on the left if you
Speaker 3: listen to my podcast, I do not get into politics
Speaker 3: at all. I just don't like the discussions. But here
Speaker 3: this won't even be political because it's facts. It's just facts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So my thinking the whole time when the invasion was happening,
Speaker 3: if Trump was still in office, would Putin have invaded?
Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a clear answer to that
Speaker 3: question I can tell you in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Or do you think Trump would have stopped the invasion?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like or he just let it.
Speaker 2: Here's the doors, let it happen. It's okay, because what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking is of the like you know, Michael Diadder,
Speaker 2: you know cartoons of maybe like you know, Putin and
Speaker 2: Kim Jong un missing Trump in their threesome of a car. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: And so what I'm saying here is that they don't
Speaker 2: have that. That's just those two guys now, and they're like,
Speaker 2: what do we do. Do we ride our green train
Speaker 2: all around and threaten the world or do we actually,
Speaker 2: you know, wait to see if he comes back or
Speaker 2: this new world order.
Speaker 3: I'd so let me answer the question of are they waiting, yes,
Speaker 3: or Trump to be back in office to do something.
Speaker 3: There is a lot of evidence in open source and
Speaker 3: this happens every election cycle. Russia is meddling in US elections.
Speaker 3: It's happening. They're meddling in Polish elections. Hey, also, guess
Speaker 3: what the US has been implicated in meddling in other
Speaker 3: people's elections to install US pro US people. Now, what
Speaker 3: I can say is that in twenty eighteen I was
Speaker 3: tabbed to go out to Poland for overt anti Russian aggression,
Speaker 3: and that was during the Trump administration. And what happened
Speaker 3: there was the Polish government asked for US help because
Speaker 3: they were sure that through Coliningrad, through Belarus, Russia was
Speaker 3: wanting to invade Poland and they were very worried about that.
Speaker 3: So they tabbed the US military of the US Air
Speaker 3: Force to come in and start doing an overt anti
Speaker 3: Russian aggression campaign that involved diosaur intel and just just
Speaker 3: being within Poland to prevent an attack like what happened
Speaker 3: in Ukraine. And so what I have looked at and
Speaker 3: what I have seen is because of that, because of
Speaker 3: that overt and the reason it was overt is to
Speaker 3: let Russia know that, hey, we know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: We are going to back our partners whenever they ask
Speaker 3: for it. So I do believe that halted some of
Speaker 3: Putin's plans.
Speaker 2: Like right now, like currently, right now, there was an
Speaker 2: agreement with a country that is helpset Russia and the
Speaker 2: US is going over doing that Operation Freedom Eagle. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the name of the Operation per Se is,
Speaker 2: and I want to say it's Armania, but I could
Speaker 2: be wrong. But they just agreed to like say, the
Speaker 2: US can protect us because they're watching Russia. Russia look
Speaker 2: for weapons, right and they're like, if you're supposed to
Speaker 2: cover US for ninety nine point nine percent of our
Speaker 2: security and you don't have weapons right now to supply
Speaker 2: your own wars, your own troops in a war that
Speaker 2: you're creating, how are you going to protect us? So
Speaker 2: they've decided to ally with the US. To say hey,
Speaker 2: you know, enough's enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that Putin did make some missteps here.
Speaker 3: I don't think so it's like people like you. You
Speaker 3: talked about it with Armenians and in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan,
Speaker 3: a lot of countries that said, hey, we will deal
Speaker 3: with Russia because they offer us in economic gains, they
Speaker 3: offer us different things, and they're now seeing, oh, hey, wait,
Speaker 3: we may be aligning with the wrong people here and
Speaker 3: so and so that's something that I mean, look, it's
Speaker 3: historical that Finland and Sweden asked to join NATO. Sweden
Speaker 3: is a neutral country. They've they have spent their whole
Speaker 3: history trying well current modern history, trying to be neutral
Speaker 3: in every aspect of war globally. And they said, well,
Speaker 3: this invasion of Ukraine is so significant and it's so
Speaker 3: close to home, we need that protection. Finland got that,
Speaker 3: Sweden still working for it, but it is that was
Speaker 3: definitely a miscalculation from Putin In saying hey, this was
Speaker 3: because NATO was on our doorstep and we want to
Speaker 3: try to push back against a nuclear NATO who is
Speaker 3: aggressive towards Russia. Well, now you've got Finland, who is
Speaker 3: as close as you can be to the Russian border.
Speaker 3: You've got Sweden gaining, You've got Moldova getting some talks
Speaker 3: about becoming a NATO country, and that's far off because
Speaker 3: of their economy and the size of their military. But
Speaker 3: it is a bunch of countries that are saying, hey,
Speaker 3: look we need protections and so there's an organization that
Speaker 3: can protect us. You say what you want about NATO,
Speaker 3: but they have been protecting their own. And then I
Speaker 3: think the same can be said if you want to
Speaker 3: talk if you want to cross over into the Indo
Speaker 3: Pacific and talk about China. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: countries right now are figuring out do we align with China,
Speaker 3: do we get that possible economic boost that China may give,
Speaker 3: or do we realize that China's only looking out for
Speaker 3: themselves and we kind of need to to become an
Speaker 3: ally with a country that would push back against an
Speaker 3: aggressive China. And that's in countries not just like Taiwan,
Speaker 3: not just the Philippines, but New Zealand, Australia. These are
Speaker 3: large economies, large countries that are rethinking their entire global
Speaker 3: standing and what they're going to do on a geopolitical level.
Speaker 3: It is what we're going through is historical.
Speaker 2: Of course it is, because we're going through it right.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you at all, and this conversation
Speaker 2: is good to have. I mean, I just want to
Speaker 2: let my listener know that you have spent about fifteen
Speaker 2: years in the Army and Intel and doing analytical, you know,
Speaker 2: doing analyst stuff, which we all know our favorite superheroes
Speaker 2: come from. I'm just an analyst, bro, I just have
Speaker 2: a keyboard. I just I'm a computer salesman, Jamie Lee Curtis, Ah,
Speaker 2: get down true lies. You know, I don't know. My
Speaker 2: husband's a computer salesman. So when you're doing UAV okay,
Speaker 2: so unmanned aerial vehicle. And then there's like i R
Speaker 2: S is that international search and is R is that
Speaker 2: International search and rescue? Where I saw that little tidbit,
Speaker 2: what is IR?
Speaker 3: So that is in the form of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance.
Speaker 3: So UAV is part of an ISR system, satellites are
Speaker 3: part of an ISR system. And sure it's just a
Speaker 3: combination of all of those things. So talk about what
Speaker 3: a UAV or you know, what's known I guess colloquially
Speaker 3: as a drone. How does that fit in the ISR.
Speaker 3: So a drone collects intelligence because it has a camera,
Speaker 3: it flies around, it can can pick up things that
Speaker 3: has other things that are classified that are attached to
Speaker 3: it that can also pick up intelligence. You have surveillance, well,
Speaker 3: it's got the camera. You can surveil, you can see
Speaker 3: what people are doing. I spent many many hours on
Speaker 3: a twelve hour shift just watching things and surveilling, observing, observing.
Speaker 3: And then you've got reconnaissance, and that is you know
Speaker 3: what we have is a route recon route reconnaissance. I
Speaker 3: did this a lot with Special Operations. Hey do a
Speaker 3: route recon immediately because we got we've got guys going out.
Speaker 3: And so that's that's where I fit in in the
Speaker 3: special operations. The soft community is a sport guy. I
Speaker 3: was an intel guy. I was that person. I could
Speaker 3: not have gone through the Q course or buds. I've
Speaker 3: always said that, and I had I had one one
Speaker 3: guy while I was in while I was in a RAT,
Speaker 3: and I talked to him about it, and he kind
Speaker 3: of he actually changed my perspective on it and probably
Speaker 3: led me on the trajectory that I am today in
Speaker 3: believing in myself and doing things that I think are
Speaker 3: difficult to do that I could never accomplish, And if
Speaker 3: you don't try it, you'll never know. And he said,
Speaker 3: you can get through anything, but you've already failed because
Speaker 3: in your head you told yourself you can't do it right.
Speaker 2: And I believe that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it isle stayed with me. That was about I
Speaker 3: would say, twelve years ago, and it's stuck with me
Speaker 3: through these twelve years. And so I try. Everything I
Speaker 3: try is harder and harder and harder. Podcasting is not
Speaker 3: maybe the most physically enduring thing to do. Sometimes it
Speaker 3: is if you're sitting down for four hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're getting one hundred million dollars for five years,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, yeah, there's a big difference between
Speaker 2: programming and editing, and you know, rescheduling and after you
Speaker 2: have everything set up and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: a technical issue, like prior to the show today, someone
Speaker 2: I was having those technical issues and hear you. But
Speaker 2: we had to work through that and resolve it, you know,
Speaker 2: and we have to just keep pushing forward. If I
Speaker 2: didn't try to go boxing, or didn't try to do snowboarding,
Speaker 2: or didn't try I would never know that I would
Speaker 2: I love those things. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: That's a great way to say it is that you
Speaker 3: don't know you'll love it, right, It seems difficult, and
Speaker 3: then you get through it. Listen, when I started out
Speaker 3: in oh Man, I started in two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: October sixteen, two thousand and one is when I raised
Speaker 3: my right hand to join the army. And I never
Speaker 3: would have thought my future would be in the intel community.
Speaker 3: It was not something I thought was going to be
Speaker 3: a passion of mine. I loved following sports, and I
Speaker 3: loved writing about sports. I loved acting. I thought I
Speaker 3: was going to go to LA and be an actor.
Speaker 3: Just let me get through this little army thing and
Speaker 3: then I can go do it.
Speaker 2: And you can and now you can and you can
Speaker 2: and you can. I'm sag. I got you, dude. I
Speaker 2: stand with the writers, and I stand with everybody who
Speaker 2: strike right now. I don't want our faces just to
Speaker 2: be manipulated for time and eternity, even though they can be.
Speaker 2: It should be fair wages. You know, through all of time,
Speaker 2: my ancestors have been like entertainers or warriors. It's really weird.
Speaker 2: I have a grandfather I never knew owned a circus,
Speaker 2: I kind of do the same thing. So entertaining is
Speaker 2: a trade, it is a skill. We are doing this.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like it's only fair to have fair
Speaker 2: wages for fair trade.
Speaker 3: That is exactly right if you're putting the work in
Speaker 3: and that this is the talk to get into like
Speaker 3: AI and what is AI going to do and if allowed,
Speaker 3: if not regulated? And I'm not saying by the you know,
Speaker 3: the US government. Listen. I spent four hours in the
Speaker 3: Social Security Administration on Friday, two more hours today before
Speaker 3: I came on here. It's inefficient. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: inefficiencies within the government. Yeah, but AI, if not regulated correctly,
Speaker 3: will be used to make much cheaper labor. And we're
Speaker 3: seeing that. We're seeing a group of I would say
Speaker 3: forward thinking, the writers within SAD with the writers in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: They're forward thinking about it and they are seeing what
Speaker 3: production companies if First of all, and we do this
Speaker 3: in an intel right, So if you're going to make
Speaker 3: a predictive model, you first have to look to the
Speaker 3: past and how somebody has acted in the past. So
Speaker 3: if I'm following a high value target, I can go
Speaker 3: see places that that high value target has interacted with
Speaker 3: on a Monday at six pm, so I kind of
Speaker 3: get a feel for Hey, every Monday at this time,
Speaker 3: that's what they're going to do. So I believe the
Speaker 3: writers looked at the past of the production companies and said,
Speaker 3: they've siphoned off money from us for years. Every new
Speaker 3: thing that came up, they found a new way to
Speaker 3: take money away from us. So now we're going to
Speaker 3: strike so that they can't do that with AI. Because
Speaker 3: as good as AI is getting, and it's not there yet,
Speaker 3: but as good as it's getting with machine learning, to
Speaker 3: use the face and voice of a person without their
Speaker 3: explicit written consent should be illegal to create that face
Speaker 3: through AI, to create their words without their explicit and
Speaker 3: like I said, I use words that mean something. Every
Speaker 3: word to me means something, So to say explicit consent
Speaker 3: to do that, I don't think the production companies have
Speaker 3: a right now. I'm just a geopolitical analyst and an
Speaker 3: Intel guys, So.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I was doing some commercial work
Speaker 2: for someone here locally and they said, hey, rad, we
Speaker 2: need you to read some lines off camera. When you
Speaker 2: get a minute, can you go voice those over and
Speaker 2: then send them to us. Well, it was just kind
Speaker 2: of like a convoluted situation. I was just like, how
Speaker 2: do you want me to voice these except like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't really you don't really have
Speaker 2: the time. I was like, yeah, I'm busy today, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So they went and said we got it take care
Speaker 2: of and they sent me the clip and it's like, hey, Mitch,
Speaker 2: I need you to go into the house and rescue
Speaker 2: the hostages. And he's like Roger that rad and I
Speaker 2: was like, that's my voice. I'm like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: let me listen to this. And I'm now I'm listening
Speaker 2: to myself and they've overlaid my voice into this you
Speaker 2: know scenario. And I'm not mad about it. I'm just
Speaker 2: it's been done to me. I didn't know the technology
Speaker 2: at the time was what they were doing. It was
Speaker 2: about ten months ago, maybe like a year ago. This
Speaker 2: has just been within a year, so it's out there.
Speaker 2: You know. I've been recorded and overlaid into the background
Speaker 2: of you know, like I'm on a walkie talkie. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it sounds like you hear the breaks and everything
Speaker 2: with the walkie and it's like rat or over over.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So ask someone who has had that happen
Speaker 2: as someone you know who's been in Stephen King movies
Speaker 2: and things like that. How do we, you know, as
Speaker 2: those actors, as these people out there try to prevent
Speaker 2: that likeness from being abused in perpetuity, which is what
Speaker 2: they put in contracts, perpetuity forever, right right. They want
Speaker 2: to do a reality sh on my Airsoft war games
Speaker 2: here in Utah, and we're looking at over all these
Speaker 2: contracts from these guys out of la and it just
Speaker 2: kept saying, in perpetuity, we get a percentage in perpetuity
Speaker 2: of your business in perpetuity. I was like, wait, are
Speaker 2: you telling me that all these other reality shows out
Speaker 2: there that have a product behind them that they they
Speaker 2: are cutting it to the producers and then the chat
Speaker 2: like they're getting a cut of that for life. Right,
Speaker 2: whether if they make a product and they're selling it
Speaker 2: through the show, that show is getting it because they
Speaker 2: learned with the chick that made vodka, the lady that
Speaker 2: made vodka on that reality show back in the day,
Speaker 2: and they didn't have her tied to any paperwork, and
Speaker 2: she went with like skinny Girl vodka and it became
Speaker 2: a huge, huge.
Speaker 3: Thing that's still still selling today, Yes, exactly one of
Speaker 3: the more popular popular vodkas.
Speaker 2: And it's true.
Speaker 3: So that's all because of what lawyers, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: the production companies have the money to spend on lawyers,
Speaker 3: and so when they make a mistake, they can go
Speaker 3: back and go, Okay, how do we you know, can
Speaker 3: we fix it? Can we adjust it? And they'll get
Speaker 3: they'll get lawyers who there are some ethical lawyers out
Speaker 3: there that will do the right thing. That's not who
Speaker 3: they're looking for. I would say, no, they're mostly looking
Speaker 3: for for those that would put in perpetuity in all that.
Speaker 3: But what we can't also do is say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: AI is becoming a thing, let's just not use it,
Speaker 3: not do anything and fight fight back against it, because
Speaker 3: it's already there, it's already being utilized, and if you're
Speaker 3: not using it, you are not being productive enough in
Speaker 3: the day. I will say, now, we started, when I
Speaker 3: started working for Special Operations as part of their IR program,
Speaker 3: we actually sent somebody to look at these AI models
Speaker 3: to help with our UAV program. And what they found
Speaker 3: was that at that point, this was ten years ago,
Speaker 3: they said, you know, at that point, we don't see
Speaker 3: that AI is going to be able to take over
Speaker 3: any analyst. That was a bit of a relief for
Speaker 3: me coming ten years ago first time really thinking about AI.
Speaker 3: And then I it was about four years after that,
Speaker 3: I'm sitting at a conference and AI is just blowing up.
Speaker 3: It's everywhere, you know. The one of the creators of
Speaker 3: Google came and did a keynote speech for this conference,
Speaker 3: and at that point AI got to the point where, yes,
Speaker 3: so now AI can't analyze these things for intelligence agents
Speaker 3: and for different agencies. The problem is you have to
Speaker 3: have a human element in there. What we found when
Speaker 3: you're what we would call bean counting, which is just
Speaker 3: counting things, whether it's people or tanks. The AI can
Speaker 3: count all of the tanks in an area, but two
Speaker 3: things happen. One it'll misidentify tanks because it's under you know,
Speaker 3: it's under cover, between trees, things of that nature. And
Speaker 3: two it'll miss or it'll over count the tank. So
Speaker 3: analysts so have to go back and verify all of
Speaker 3: that information. And so what I would say to the
Speaker 3: writers who are fighting back against this is start using
Speaker 3: AI to improve your craft. AI can maybe help think
Speaker 3: outside the box. Hey, I want to write something about this,
Speaker 3: give me a couple of ideas, and a very intelligent
Speaker 3: person could get two ideas and go, oh, this is brilliant,
Speaker 3: let's do it. It's not to the point where so
Speaker 3: for me, unless the AI can feel emotion, unless it's sentient,
Speaker 3: unless it understands all of this, it's not going to
Speaker 3: write a good it's not going to write a quality
Speaker 3: movie that you're going to want to see. It's not
Speaker 3: going to write a quality song that you're going to
Speaker 3: want to hear, and it's not going to do quality
Speaker 3: analysis that is going to help you understand information.
Speaker 2: See because in our lane as podcasters, you know, as
Speaker 2: hosts and television even you know, NBC, any of these
Speaker 2: other networks out there that have a host, you know,
Speaker 2: they all have to be wondering, like are they going
Speaker 2: to go into an AI platform for running a show?
Speaker 2: And I've we've talked about it in our house of
Speaker 2: softwa rep, you know, and like what's AI chat GPT.
Speaker 2: If we're not embracing something with it, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: missing out, which is exactly kind of what you're talking about, right.
Speaker 2: How do we bring that and embrace it versus just
Speaker 2: put on a robot per se that looks like somebody
Speaker 2: talking about something that you'll have just AI watching AI,
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, just watching artificial intelligence, because the only thing
Speaker 2: going to be happening is there's nobody real. So chat GPT,
Speaker 2: everything written by a computer, then watched by a computer,
Speaker 2: then hosted by a computer. It's just gonna be talking
Speaker 2: to a computer. It's just gonna be all watching itself.
Speaker 2: And how can it grow? And then you have Terminator. Okay,
Speaker 2: the movie sky Start one hundred percent. You know, John
Speaker 2: Connor is like, you're only as good as the you know,
Speaker 2: they're only as good as the people who programmed them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got some too, Yeah, And that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: The AI will only be as good as whoever's programming
Speaker 3: it if it becomes sentient, and we talk about Skynet
Speaker 3: and that, so that can be very worrisome. We're not
Speaker 3: there yet, that's not in the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: What about something in this last little while, in the
Speaker 2: last year that we're talking here, there's been like they
Speaker 2: had to shut down the two AI robots that we're
Speaker 2: talking in their own language at Facebook because they start
Speaker 2: to like talk to themselves in their own language and
Speaker 2: do things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now think about it. So you do things
Speaker 3: with AI to be more efficient. You want more efficiency
Speaker 3: if AI understands that, if they get access to everything
Speaker 3: that allows us to be human and keeps us running,
Speaker 3: what is to stop AI from realizing that, Well, you
Speaker 3: know who's doing the most damage to this earth.
Speaker 2: You know who's.
Speaker 3: Actually an invasive species. It's Homo sapiens. It's the human race.
Speaker 3: So we may need to eradicate the human race in
Speaker 3: order to save the planet. That is stuff that I
Speaker 3: said it as AI. But you know, there are some
Speaker 3: people that probably believe that. You know, if you get
Speaker 3: into the environmentalist areas, they would very much agree that, yes,
Speaker 3: it's Homo sapiens that are invasive creatures that are ruining
Speaker 3: this world and probably need to go. They would probably
Speaker 3: also say, but not me, because I'm doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: Because every group has their own hit list, right, every
Speaker 2: group has their own hit list. It's like, well, I
Speaker 2: just don't want to be on any of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just keep me, keep me out of it, keep my
Speaker 2: name out your mouth.
Speaker 3: So a regulation for AI should be to have that
Speaker 3: kill switch that says, hey, when you start thinking, you know,
Speaker 3: death and destruction to any living being, you turn off immediately.
Speaker 3: That'll probably be something that needs to be to be
Speaker 3: put into the algorithms.
Speaker 2: But then with.
Speaker 3: Machine clap offs, does the AI go find it and say, well,
Speaker 3: look at that, let's delete that script and keep going.
Speaker 3: You know, we can go down the rabbit hole and
Speaker 3: get very scary very quickly.
Speaker 2: Oh. I've seen the memes of the robot that they
Speaker 2: kick and punch and it's trying to shoot and they
Speaker 2: flip it around and it points at them and it
Speaker 2: doesn't shoot them, and it's like super you know, I've
Speaker 2: seen that, Like is it a a t X. They're
Speaker 2: an artificial company, maybe Boston Dynamics are out there, they're
Speaker 2: making stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Well, there was a an experiment in twenty fourteen or
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, I can't now. I won't say years, but
Speaker 3: it was a few years back where they sent a
Speaker 3: robot through the length of Canada to see how far
Speaker 3: it can make us a hitchhiking robot.
Speaker 2: Why I know about this, yeah, I do. So through Canada.
Speaker 3: It was picked up and it was trying to get
Speaker 3: from one, you know, one end to the other end
Speaker 3: of Canada and it made it successfully. Because it's Canada,
Speaker 3: we all know Canadians for being very very kind, generous
Speaker 3: and helpful. And then it made it to the United
Speaker 3: States and it got to Philadelphia and by the time
Speaker 3: it got to Philadelphia was completely destroyed. It was just nothing.
Speaker 3: Nothing was there, and I believe it got it was lost.
Speaker 3: They couldn't find it, so it's positioning, its GPS was
Speaker 3: taken out, all of this kind of stuff. That's one story,
Speaker 3: just to show you how different the United States is
Speaker 3: from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets down here and we graffeed it and
Speaker 2: put some chains on it and throw it next pile.
Speaker 2: You know, they need Mark Roper to make it. You know,
Speaker 2: are we.
Speaker 3: Are we ready for the uh the robot Overlord takeover? Well, Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you we're ready.
Speaker 2: We'll fight back. Yeah, they are, Rocky Marciano Philadelphia. What's up?
Speaker 2: They're ready? One two one, bro, that's what's up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that skate park is brutal if you're not from there, right,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, that's the or in the nineties it had that,
Speaker 2: you know, like there was that whole show called Kids
Speaker 2: and it was about all you know, like that was
Speaker 2: my generation of kids that were doing those things, and
Speaker 2: we were like, let's go skate there, but they kind
Speaker 2: of showcase the brotherly love factor at Love Park there. So,
Speaker 2: but what's up Philadelphia? Taylor Swift blew out some records
Speaker 2: with some hotel rentals.
Speaker 3: She is single handily saving the US economy.
Speaker 2: And South America and wherever she's going to travel, and uh,
Speaker 2: we love Taylor Swift at software. What's up Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2: True story? I wouldn't. I would be a liar if
Speaker 2: I said any other words.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we saw there that well, well there's people
Speaker 3: with a lot of disposable income and they all wanted
Speaker 3: to go see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: That thought.
Speaker 3: I think that was an incredible display of humanity.
Speaker 2: I got to go, and I took my whole family.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about disposable income. Tickets were about two fifty
Speaker 2: apiece for me. Okay, two hundred and fifty bucks. That's
Speaker 2: a lot considering I grew up in the nineties and
Speaker 2: the two thousands with tickets being like five twenty bucks. Okay, now,
Speaker 2: it's like all right, So we went and it was
Speaker 2: well worth it, all right, I mean, like core memory accomplished.
Speaker 2: But I got them through the whole debacle of the
Speaker 2: ticket Master crumble. So I was in line, I was
Speaker 2: in Q it crumbled. They sent me another code through
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's organization, saying, hey, we're gonna send you another code.
Speaker 2: I was able to log that in and then at
Speaker 2: three pm I was able to get the tickets for
Speaker 2: the regular price twenty two rows up from the floor
Speaker 2: for two fifty apiece. You can't beat that. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: were going I could have sold them for like two
Speaker 2: or three apiece. Sure, yeah, but yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 3: There's a video of you being a nineties kid, right,
Speaker 3: There's there's this video of Kurt Cobain right from Nirvana
Speaker 3: talking about Madonna's concert and ninety one or ninety two,
Speaker 3: I believe, and they said, what do you think about
Speaker 3: Madonna selling her tickets for fifty dollars? Fifty dollars? And
Speaker 3: he was blown away.
Speaker 2: Fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: We're going to pay fifty dollars to go to a show?
Speaker 2: Didn't he ask? Who is that again? They're like, it's Madonna.
Speaker 2: He's like madonnadi dollars, you know, And honestly, let's put
Speaker 2: let's put Madonna in perspective. She has a huge production,
Speaker 2: she has the whole choreography and the dancing and everything,
Speaker 2: and so you know, and I know she wants to
Speaker 2: make some scrilla all right and some chetta okay. And
Speaker 2: you know, fifty dollars though in the nineties was a
Speaker 2: ton because shows again were like Fugazi was out there
Speaker 2: saying like five dollars. You know, there was labels called
Speaker 2: subpop and all these labels that were like, we don't
Speaker 2: want to sell tickets for more than the kids can afford.
Speaker 2: But you know, Metallica is like five hund.
Speaker 3: Do ticket, you know, yeah, Metallics doing And now I
Speaker 3: did I will say, I'm glad you brought that up
Speaker 3: about the production quality and how it can be worth
Speaker 3: it for your whole family if you're bringing your whole family.
Speaker 3: I did that with the with Lady Gaga. I'm not
Speaker 3: a big fan of Lady Gaga, but you know a
Speaker 3: lot of we listened to a lot of pop in
Speaker 3: the house, so that's one one name that's always out there.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I had caveated with I'm not
Speaker 3: a big fan of Lady Gaga's music, but it was
Speaker 3: such an incredible show entertain experience that we had was
Speaker 3: it was just awesome, So yeah, it can it can't
Speaker 3: be worth it. You just have to realize what you're
Speaker 3: spending your money on and then just go and have
Speaker 3: fun and and accept it and embrace it.
Speaker 2: Right, And it's and and and it was a thing
Speaker 2: where it's like, uh, it was like we only lived
Speaker 2: kind of once attitude. You know. We took on the
Speaker 2: mantra of like, hey, the kids, they're not getting younger,
Speaker 2: we're not getting younger. When I take travel destinations with
Speaker 2: my wife and after we get done there for a
Speaker 2: few days, we're like, hey, we're so glad we did
Speaker 2: this when we were sixty five. Yeah, you know, because
Speaker 2: how can we ever climb to the top of the
Speaker 2: cathedral's top spire, you know, with a cane? You know.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that you have to be old
Speaker 2: to have a can. I'm just saying, you know, ailments
Speaker 2: and like, you know, getting up and down every day.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you got to live life today, right,
Speaker 2: You're living life, You're enjoying yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, and you just don't know what tomorrow holds.
Speaker 3: Every religion is based off of that. Stow. I've been
Speaker 3: getting into Stoicism over the last few years. The Stoic's
Speaker 3: mantra is, don't put off to tomorrow what you need
Speaker 3: to accomplish today. Also, you know, Amnamor, I know that
Speaker 3: you will die one day. We are going not to
Speaker 3: get to morbid here, but we're all going to die
Speaker 3: at some point. Don't spend your whole life worrying about
Speaker 3: when that's going to be. Be in the moment, be
Speaker 3: in the day. I look back on my career in
Speaker 3: the military and dozens of deployments and being in austere
Speaker 3: locations where I was moments from possibly being hit by
Speaker 3: a rocket or shot or killed, and that would have
Speaker 3: been it, And what legacy would I have left, And
Speaker 3: so in thinking that, that's why I've started to do
Speaker 3: what I'm doing now with the podcast is to create
Speaker 3: that legacy. I saw a problem with too much misinformation
Speaker 3: being put out by even high standard media individuals, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to go against that, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: make a legacy for future independent creators to know that
Speaker 3: your logical, intelligence based thinking is correct. You're using facts
Speaker 3: and logic. Don't get bogged down by what everyone else
Speaker 3: is saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the machine, the machine can just keep pumping it
Speaker 2: out all day. You know, we lay down in bed
Speaker 2: with these phones that are just super computers that stare
Speaker 2: at our faces, you know, and you know what we're not.
Speaker 2: We're not super computers. And so here you are, it's
Speaker 2: reading you. It's you know, algorithm and your face and
Speaker 2: your nose and your feet, facial structure because you've given
Speaker 2: an app access to allow yeah, to your camera, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's like and then all of a sudden, you
Speaker 2: can't go to sleep and you're just staring at this
Speaker 2: blue led light or you think you have it on
Speaker 2: dark mode, but you're still scrolling, and it's just Fenian.
Speaker 2: I have so many friends that I love and cherish
Speaker 2: on these social media applications. I want to see their feeds, right,
Speaker 2: But then I have other people that I just see
Speaker 2: their feeds instead, I don't see and the other people
Speaker 2: are posting My friends are posting stuff, where's that at?
Speaker 2: You know, So it's still ciphering in what I'm they
Speaker 2: think I want to see, and I have to stop myself.
Speaker 2: The other day, I was talking about Beyonce with my wife.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, hey, she's beautiful. Next thing I know, man,
Speaker 2: Beyonce is in my feed. I'm like, I'm not what's
Speaker 2: going on here and now I'm gonna get it again.
Speaker 2: Are my daughter's laptop.
Speaker 3: We have a we've got a dog, a Jack Russell's
Speaker 3: fourteen years old, just getting old, and we constantly talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, the process of how that's gonna look. She's
Speaker 3: deteriorating and grows old. And just the other day of
Speaker 3: my wife said, Hey, my entire Instagram feed is just
Speaker 3: dogs memorials for dogs, so sad.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 3: It's like we've been talking about it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: every motion you make with your phone is captured by
Speaker 3: some data center and it is used within the algorithm.
Speaker 3: And I am sometimes I'm not aware. Sometimes I'll doom
Speaker 3: scroll and just scroll around. But then sometimes I'm I'm
Speaker 3: acutely aware of how long I stay on a post knowing, oh,
Speaker 3: that's in my algorithm.
Speaker 2: Now, So how we turn it into a business. You know,
Speaker 2: we turned into our justifying it because I work online.
Speaker 3: And so that is a lot of like content creators
Speaker 3: on Twitter and Instagram is trying to figure out the algorithm.
Speaker 3: So you're not getting genuine content. Well, we have you know,
Speaker 3: open Analytics has an Instagram page, and in researching how
Speaker 3: to start that, how to gain a following. It all
Speaker 3: about your content. It's not about what's in the content.
Speaker 3: It's about how long somebody stays on the content. So
Speaker 3: if it's a video, it should you know, don't lead
Speaker 3: with the solution. Make sure it's if it's a minute video,
Speaker 3: fifty seconds into that video, you've got the solution to
Speaker 3: keep the audience there for the whole minute, and then
Speaker 3: more of your content is going to be pulled from
Speaker 3: that and it's going to be into more people's feeds.
Speaker 3: People are making tons of money, like go on you
Speaker 3: can go on Twitter or x as it's called now.
Speaker 3: I still haven't gotten used to saying that, but it's
Speaker 3: so what they'll tell you if you want to be
Speaker 3: a content creator on Twitter. When Twitter was Twitter was
Speaker 3: a lot of threads, you want multiple posts about one
Speaker 3: thing because someone will click on it and then they
Speaker 3: will start to read the other threads, and so you
Speaker 3: keep them engaged in there. The longer they stay on
Speaker 3: your post, the more engagement you can receive. So there's
Speaker 3: so much in genuine like just non genuine people AI
Speaker 3: post yeah AI for you know, creating an AI that
Speaker 3: will post these it. I mean, it gets frustrating sometimes
Speaker 3: because you see people with just millions of followers, and
Speaker 3: they're just putting out content that is exactly cookie cutter.
Speaker 3: And I mean it would be like in Hollywood. I'm
Speaker 3: sure writers get frustrated when listen. I love The Avengers,
Speaker 3: I love superhero movies, but it's it's cookie cutter. And
Speaker 3: a lot of writers look at that and go, look,
Speaker 3: they just did a basic college story writing course and
Speaker 3: they created this movie. And I am actually creating something
Speaker 3: new and it expresses a new feeling and it makes
Speaker 3: people feel a certain way, and I can't get any
Speaker 3: engagement because it's not cookie cutter.
Speaker 2: You know. I think would like to get back to acting.
Speaker 2: I think President Zelensky of the Ukraine would like to
Speaker 2: be back in the act. Yeah, he you know, I
Speaker 2: think that dude right there, he's also an actor. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the presidents in my lifetime, Reagan, you know,
Speaker 2: they all seem like Trump. They're all like television actors.
Speaker 2: You know, they've all had some type of u Let's
Speaker 2: look at Arnold, right, he's governor of California. That's basically
Speaker 2: president of California, you know, and his claim to famous
Speaker 2: his acting, you know, really, I know he's muscular, and
Speaker 2: I know he has attention to detail, and he's got
Speaker 2: dedication and that that that takes commitment and you know,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole nine yards to be disciplined to
Speaker 2: work out every day and do all of that. So
Speaker 2: I'm not discrediting that from him.
Speaker 3: But again Arnold, I don't think anybody would sit and
Speaker 3: watch Arnold and say what a terrific actor he.
Speaker 2: Did. Well, you know, when he got that job and terminator,
Speaker 2: he was quoted as saying, like to James Cameron, you know,
Speaker 2: the terminator, he can't look at the gun when he
Speaker 2: puts it together. He just puts it together. He has
Speaker 2: to just like no, because he is the terminator. And
Speaker 2: he's like, well, how about you're the terminator because they
Speaker 2: were supposed to have a OJ Simpson and he was
Speaker 2: going to be the terminator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they dodged a bullet for lack of a
Speaker 3: better term.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and at the time OJ was huge, right, huge, huge, huge, huge,
Speaker 2: And so he went off to do airplane movies and
Speaker 2: other things and the rental car agencies. But he was
Speaker 2: and he was already like the terminator. And then Arnold
Speaker 2: had lunch with James Cameron and he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: the terminator needs to just like hold the shotgun like
Speaker 2: this and not even look and like go through the
Speaker 2: phone book and just touch the name, you know, like
Speaker 2: here it is, he's the terminator.
Speaker 3: That story is a great reflection of how you know,
Speaker 3: if you just put yourself out there and you just
Speaker 3: do it. You know how many people myself included, would
Speaker 3: be very intimidated to tell James Cameron, a director, a
Speaker 3: famed director right for a movie, that oh, you've got
Speaker 3: this wrong. You should change it. It should be something different. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so so we go, oh, I think that's different.
Speaker 3: But I either I don't have the confidence to say
Speaker 3: that or I don't have the ability to tell them
Speaker 3: just put yourself out there. When we started the podcast,
Speaker 3: it was like, so what is this going to be?
Speaker 3: You know, where's it going to go? And it was like,
Speaker 3: so what if you fail? Well that I had to say,
Speaker 3: if I fail, it just means the next opportunity is
Speaker 3: going to open. You can gain success through failure. I
Speaker 3: will say almost every successful entrepreneur, almost every successful person
Speaker 3: you see, has gone through failure.
Speaker 2: It's true, one hundred percent. The gym is failure. You
Speaker 2: go to the gym, if you go to your craft's
Speaker 2: workout space. If you're an actor and you go to
Speaker 2: acting class and you fail there and you wanted to
Speaker 2: get better. You know, if you go to the gym
Speaker 2: and you push your muscle fatigue to failure, you know,
Speaker 2: so that you can rebuild your muscles and let them
Speaker 2: and go to bed and get some good sleep, because
Speaker 2: sleep rebuild your muscles. You know. A failure, I like
Speaker 2: to look at it like, you know, I get it.
Speaker 2: We're there to be successful in life, and I'm that's
Speaker 2: my goal, but I have to go through these failures.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, better we all do without failure, because without failure,
Speaker 3: you can't learn. You know, if you were successful your
Speaker 3: whole life. And look for me through my entire elementary school,
Speaker 3: through high school, through even I would say parts of
Speaker 3: training and my original intel course I skated through really
Speaker 3: bare bone, bare minimum. Just do enough to accomplish it,
Speaker 3: don't fail, just get through it. And what I especially
Speaker 3: getting into the soft community, the Special Operations Commune, what
Speaker 3: I found out is you have to fail.
Speaker 2: You cannot. You know.
Speaker 3: They basically said, you cannot come to us without having
Speaker 3: failed before, because if you fail with us, that's going
Speaker 3: to be a problem that's going to cause death, destruction,
Speaker 3: bad planning. So you know, I had to I had
Speaker 3: to do uncomfortable things in order to get up to
Speaker 3: that point and from so from that moment, once I
Speaker 3: was doing support for those guys, my life changed dramatically
Speaker 3: and I'm still to this day doing things that are failures.
Speaker 3: When I started all of this, I thought I was
Speaker 3: starting a company to do you know, travel safety reports
Speaker 3: for Fortune five hundred companies. That was the plan, that
Speaker 3: was the goal. And then that was April of twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: so everything shut down, So I have no business anymore.
Speaker 3: There's no one's traveling, So what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: I had to reframe my mind and through that year
Speaker 3: basically that we spent just at home doing work from
Speaker 3: home and watching Netflix and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: and then seeing all of social media just you know,
Speaker 3: both sides of a disinformation, misinformation coming from all over
Speaker 3: the place, and people are just bickering and arguing, but
Speaker 3: they're not getting to the source of what's actually happening
Speaker 3: to understand the implications of it on a personal level.
Speaker 3: That's where it changed, and I said, hey, look, I'm
Speaker 3: identifying these things that are starting to happen. January sixth
Speaker 3: is one thing. In twenty twenty one, December of twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: I was already by doing open source identifying certain sects
Speaker 3: that we're planning something. The mayor of DC came out
Speaker 3: and said something is being planned. We don't think it's violent,
Speaker 3: but be on the lookout, and so I had sent
Speaker 3: We were in a group with just other Intel guys,
Speaker 3: and so I started talking about it. And then January
Speaker 3: sixth comes and there's the rallies and then they start
Speaker 3: the march to the US Capitol and enter the US Capitol.
Speaker 3: You know, if you had asked some unbiased Intel analysts,
Speaker 3: maybe they would have said, hey, maybe you should get
Speaker 3: some more security. It probably won't be violent. But what's
Speaker 3: the problem in actually, you know, being prepared, being prepared
Speaker 3: for it, take it. And so so that happened. I
Speaker 3: will say DC was not prepared for it. They didn't
Speaker 3: have enough capitol police there. Yeah, they probably should have
Speaker 3: taken the National Guard and posted them just to kind
Speaker 3: of have because sometimes when you talk about deterrence, that's
Speaker 3: what you want to do. You want to deter it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes showing might deters a lot of that, and then
Speaker 3: with with Ukraine in twenty twenty one or in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two. There was when I was, you know, November,
Speaker 3: December or January off for that going. I was talking
Speaker 3: a lot about it, and I said, hey, Putin is
Speaker 3: going to do this, He's he's going to do it.
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 3: I said it to the date because of what he
Speaker 3: was doing talking to Gi before the Winter Olympics, and
Speaker 3: that after the Winter Olympics he would have been given
Speaker 3: the go ahead to invade. I said, it's going to happen.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people said that I was being
Speaker 3: either a warmonger or crazy or not understanding the facts,
Speaker 3: and I had to keep going. I had to stay.
Speaker 3: You know, I was getting text messages saying I really
Speaker 3: don't think this is going to happen. That was the
Speaker 3: day before the invasion. So I really don't hope you're
Speaker 3: I hope you're wrong on this, which I said, I
Speaker 3: hope I'm wrong too, But be prepared, be prepared for that.
Speaker 3: And that is what I'm trying to get out into
Speaker 3: the ether. I guess to whoever would listen, is you've
Speaker 3: got to understand these geopolitical problems, these geopolitical situations because
Speaker 3: it is, it affects you, It is going to affect you.
Speaker 3: We talked about World War three a lot, and it
Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet. Are we on the cusp of it?
Speaker 3: I think every day we become closer to World War
Speaker 3: three just because of how our politics and the global
Speaker 3: sphere has become where we're just so angry with each other.
Speaker 3: But it's not there yet. And a good way to
Speaker 3: deter that is to show might. So you know, d
Speaker 3: od US military continue to expand and and spend on
Speaker 3: quality equipment and things that the war fighter needs as
Speaker 3: a deterrence. And for people with not in the military,
Speaker 3: just your every day Joe, it's going to affect you
Speaker 3: if something happened. So the war in Ukraine has affected
Speaker 3: your pocketbooks, The war in Ukraine has made it less
Speaker 3: has made some foods less accessible to you here in
Speaker 3: whether you're in Montana or La, it's affecting you. And
Speaker 3: so there's something So so Mike Baker does the he's
Speaker 3: now doing the Daily the President's Dately Brief, and in
Speaker 3: his intro he said something that really caught me that
Speaker 3: that is something that I understood, is that he who
Speaker 3: holds the best and most accurate information holds the key
Speaker 3: to success. So if you have good, accurate information, you
Speaker 3: have the ability to improve your life even when disasters happen.
Speaker 3: And that goes just across the board. Yeah, watch out
Speaker 3: for speed bumps along the way.
Speaker 2: You know there's gonna be there. There's going to be
Speaker 2: the off ramp that you're taking that you're supposed to
Speaker 2: stay on this path. Like I'll be working diligently at
Speaker 2: my job for my own company, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I'll get on my phone and I'm looking
Speaker 2: for emails and I get distracted and what I was
Speaker 2: going to do five minutes ago, now I'm scrolling. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you gotta watch Yeah, yes, watch out for that. You
Speaker 2: know I do too. I'm a victim of it.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we're addicted. Go back to the phone conversation.
Speaker 3: If if you don't think that you are addicted to
Speaker 3: your phone, there are some people who aren't. I'm very
Speaker 3: impressed by people who still have a dumb phone, the
Speaker 3: little flip phone. Yeah, but if you don't think you're
Speaker 3: addicted to your phone, have somebody take your phone away
Speaker 3: from you for twenty four hours and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Oh you will.
Speaker 3: You will begin to shake, as you know an addict
Speaker 3: I do with that. Without there, you will continue to
Speaker 3: look and try to check for your phone. I do
Speaker 3: this daily. You put my phone upstairs because we're going
Speaker 3: to watch a movie as a family. You got to
Speaker 3: be with the family. Be in the moment, right and
Speaker 3: and I will go and you'll see me tapping my
Speaker 3: legs because where's my phone? Where did I put my phone?
Speaker 3: I have to see it. I have to be I
Speaker 3: can't be in this moment because I have to be
Speaker 3: in this moment. And so how to I don't know
Speaker 3: how to solve that.
Speaker 2: Bro. There. I saw this guy the other day. I
Speaker 2: was driving my jeep and it's I have a five
Speaker 2: speed ninety three Wrangler, so I have to I can't
Speaker 2: do nothing except drive because I'm shifting right. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: I look over at this dune. He's like right next
Speaker 2: to me. Tops off, I'm cruising to work. I look over.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, he's so close to my jeep. Bro.
Speaker 2: And I look over and he's literally leading over his
Speaker 2: steering wheel, both his hands on the fetching phone, tapping
Speaker 2: with his thumbs like driving with his knee trying to
Speaker 2: drive and I'm like, I honk my jeep horn met me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, bro, like bro, bro.
Speaker 3: The majority of congestion here in the DC area, I
Speaker 3: guarantee is based off of I watch people sitting at
Speaker 3: a red light goat green, and they're on Facebook. They're
Speaker 3: posting a picture on who.
Speaker 2: And by the time they drive, and they've taken that
Speaker 2: three extra seconds to realize that to drive, you've caused traffic.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's incredibly frustrating.
Speaker 2: And I also saw that out here in Utah. They
Speaker 2: have like a semi truck that they I think they
Speaker 2: probably impounded from some kind of deal or something, you know,
Speaker 2: and the cops are driving it and so they roll
Speaker 2: up next to semi truck drivers and they look over
Speaker 2: at the same height and they see semi truck drivers
Speaker 2: big rigs hauling huge loads text driving texting dude, yeah,
Speaker 2: just like totally like everyone else, just like big load behind.
Speaker 2: Imagine trying to stop and break.
Speaker 3: Well, that's I mean, that's another thing. I mean, the
Speaker 3: most accidents are are created, if not by with these
Speaker 3: big rigs. And I mean we go back to the
Speaker 3: AI conversation. I am ready for at least those, and
Speaker 3: not to say anything to truckers, I think you should
Speaker 3: still be seated in the truck while these are self
Speaker 3: driving trucks. But there would be so much, so less
Speaker 3: congestion if the trucks are just doing the right thing,
Speaker 3: you know, not getting in the far left lane to
Speaker 3: pass up a truck. But you're only going one mile
Speaker 3: per hour faster than that truck, so it takes twenty
Speaker 3: minutes to pass it, and now you've got a row
Speaker 3: of cars behind you for miles, just because you decided
Speaker 3: I'm going to be selfish and I've got to get
Speaker 3: over because my day is more important than everyone else.
Speaker 3: That's what I always think about, and looking at that
Speaker 3: people do frustrating things on the road. You were saying
Speaker 3: your life is more important than mine is because you
Speaker 3: have to get to where you want to get to.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things in my stoicism journey that
Speaker 3: I have not dealt with. I could still get angry
Speaker 3: about on a Yeah, right, I have yet to be
Speaker 3: to d C. So one day I'll experience this. The
Speaker 3: turn it's like popular what's it called the turn belt
Speaker 3: or the.
Speaker 2: Beltway, the beltway, Capital beltway. Yeah, the Capitol Beltway.
Speaker 3: For the way was four ninety five Beltway, which goes
Speaker 3: just all around d C. It does a complete loop
Speaker 3: of DC. And if you think about it, now, DC
Speaker 3: has about seven hundred and thirty thousand people within its population.
Speaker 3: But when you take in the DMV, the DC, Maryland,
Speaker 3: Virginia sort of what we call the National Capital region
Speaker 3: where you got the Pentagon and that kind of stuff
Speaker 3: you're talking about, and you're putting in I want to say,
Speaker 3: two to three million people. So this small little area
Speaker 3: has seven hundred and fifty thousand, but within that you
Speaker 3: branch out just two to three miles and you're talking
Speaker 3: about three million people all going to the same place,
Speaker 3: going to work.
Speaker 2: Take on to one exit. Yeah, jeez. If everybody works
Speaker 2: with the Pentagon, they got to get to the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: so expect that delay, you know. And yeah, geez cheese,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah, I get that. A lot of people
Speaker 2: going in there. There's a lot going on every Basically,
Speaker 2: the Beltway is just your commute off wrap probably to
Speaker 2: all these different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what it is. You explained
Speaker 3: it exactly right. I got to go all the way
Speaker 3: around here because I had to take this exit which
Speaker 3: is going to go to you know whatever, Get me
Speaker 3: into DC, get me to the Pentagon, get me to Aberdeen,
Speaker 3: any of those places. And yeah, So it's just it's congestion.
Speaker 3: And it's something that I've been thinking about for a
Speaker 3: while that you know, intelligence analysis could try to solve
Speaker 3: this issue. I've written up the ladrafts of papers of
Speaker 3: how to do that because it is one of the
Speaker 3: things that you talk about. Things I'm passionate about. It's
Speaker 3: fixing traffic here in DC to make everyone's life.
Speaker 2: Just send that Pete Bootage's office. Yes, right away, Pete.
Speaker 2: If you're listening and you want to get on SOFTWAREP
Speaker 2: and talk about the traffic in DC, we'll three way
Speaker 2: it with curve it here. No problem, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3: Let's just float some ideas. It doesn't hurt to float
Speaker 3: some ideas.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, that's exactly right. It does not. No, hey,
Speaker 2: there's no wrong idea in a brainstorm session.
Speaker 3: There is whenever you're taking action. Now, Oh well, call
Speaker 3: those the good idea fairies.
Speaker 2: The good idea fairies. Huh jeez, Well, it was a
Speaker 2: good idea to have you on the show. How about that?
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for having me once again.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm just blessed to be here.
Speaker 2: Honestly, sure, same we both are, and I literally you
Speaker 2: wrote in I just want to let my listener know
Speaker 2: we've talked just like this. It's our first time having
Speaker 2: a conversation. And you can go out and have conversations
Speaker 2: with other people in this world and not getting each
Speaker 2: other's throats, right, So just try to be kind to
Speaker 2: one another and be the kindness you want to see
Speaker 2: in the world today. But upgrade yourself so she can always
Speaker 2: downgrade yourself.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, we had we had the Trump conversation, and
Speaker 3: no one yelled, and no one was on one side
Speaker 3: or the other. So I think that that's good. That
Speaker 3: is uh, that's good for the future of this country.
Speaker 2: It's part of history. It's yes, you can't can't can't
Speaker 2: ban that book? Can you should? We should we ban
Speaker 2: that book? Huh that he existed in our lives or
Speaker 2: anybody else that as anybody has a problem with us
Speaker 2: ban that book. Nah. There's a lad lady down the
Speaker 2: street here, a nice old lady. She has a sign
Speaker 2: and it waves a flag in her little yard. It
Speaker 2: says read banned books.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree with that. If if a book
Speaker 3: makes you uncomfortable, read it and then figure out why
Speaker 3: that makes you uncomfortable. Maybe it's because it goes against
Speaker 3: your worldview, and maybe that worldview is wrong, or may
Speaker 3: be it was right, and you just don't know enough
Speaker 3: to express how your worldview is is right, and the
Speaker 3: books isn't. So educate that's I'm all about. Read a book,
Speaker 3: read a book, get educated that. I continue to do that.
Speaker 3: I'm thirty nine years old. Now that might not sound
Speaker 3: old to some people, but listen, I continue to read
Speaker 3: things every day and learn new things. And so that's
Speaker 3: what I that's what I love about today, the information age.
Speaker 2: Here's my bookshelf behind me. Now, okay, there's my bookshelf.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of books right there for you, just
Speaker 2: so you know, just right.
Speaker 3: The I guess it's not good because I've got the uh,
Speaker 3: the liquor cabinet back there.
Speaker 2: So, oh, Japanese it's is that Japanese whiskey? What is
Speaker 2: that is that?
Speaker 3: Ah? I've got some gin I've got I have old
Speaker 3: Bay vodkas, So now you know I'm in the DC area.
Speaker 3: Is probably the only place you can find Old Bay, DC. Well, listen,
Speaker 3: I really appreciate you of being on the show. I'm
Speaker 3: going to play your show right now. It's a geopolitical podcast.
Speaker 3: It's called This Week Explained. It's found everywhere. I typed
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Speaker 2: Curvin A. Coin is his name, And you know, thanks
Speaker 2: for your service in the military. Thanks for coming on
Speaker 2: and talking about the political world theater that we live
Speaker 2: in today.
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you. Thank you for continuing to support us
Speaker 3: as as veterans and current military people. Your show is amazing.
Speaker 3: It's awesome what you guys are doing and getting those
Speaker 3: conversations out, So thank you so much.
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