Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy and Emily Simpson. Hi.
Speaker 1: Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2: You know, still in this hotel room crashing it? It
Speaker 2: looks like a little dark. It is dark, and you
Speaker 2: know what, the amount of dirty clothes on the floor.
Speaker 2: It's it's a little bit of a situation. It's a
Speaker 2: situationship in here. Yeah, it looks like it. It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not the best. I feel like We're gonna start
Speaker 2: with New York and I'm gonna say, listen, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Do I feel like it was a filler episode?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well you know, I'm they need to get new material,
Speaker 1: Like the sound bath is getting old, like the Shaman
Speaker 1: and the sound Bath. Like I feel like Housewives are
Speaker 1: done with that, Like we should just it should be
Speaker 1: just we're done. I mean, I feel like if I
Speaker 1: was going to do a group activity, like what about
Speaker 1: mud wrestling?
Speaker 3: What about yeah, mud wrestling with mud wrestling. I also,
Speaker 3: I don't really have any interest in ever like throwing
Speaker 3: acts throwing. I'm sick of seeing that, right, Like I'm good.
Speaker 3: What let's think of some other gut ideas mud wrestling.
Speaker 3: You guys already did slip insides. You already wore hairy
Speaker 3: bathing suits. I don't it were there's it's very limited.
Speaker 3: Like we've even seen goat yoga.
Speaker 1: Yeah, goat yoga was a thing. They still do that
Speaker 1: out here near me. But you know, once you see
Speaker 1: it on TV, you're not really interested.
Speaker 2: Well, the one thing that I also am not interested in,
Speaker 2: even less than I like reading books, is watching people's
Speaker 2: shop for books. And let's I love Bren, but I'm
Speaker 2: finding it a little hard to believe that she goes
Speaker 2: to these chess competitions alone and she's like, I read great,
Speaker 2: Let's go to a bookstore store, I played chess. Great.
Speaker 2: You're going to be in a tournament and you're going
Speaker 2: to lose really badly, and there's only going to be
Speaker 2: two other people in the tournament and they're eighty seven
Speaker 2: years old. But no, I love her. But then we
Speaker 2: get to Jenna and Bren meet at the bar. Bren
Speaker 2: says she does not differentiate between being straight and gay.
Speaker 2: A girl comes over and she and Brent start flirting
Speaker 2: with another with one another Jenna says that Brenn is
Speaker 2: clearly straight, so she's not a threat. Do we think
Speaker 2: that Bren's flirtatious act is endearing or do we think
Speaker 2: it's like getting redundant at this point?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I go back and forth,
Speaker 1: but I still find her endearing. I just like her.
Speaker 1: I think she has such a cute personality and she's bubbly,
Speaker 1: and she does always make sexual jokes and I'm okay
Speaker 1: with it because she's so cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like her because we've seen the emotional
Speaker 2: side and we've seen the flirtatious side. What's just like
Speaker 2: the just be just being a human being. But I
Speaker 2: do like her. Then, Okay, so the girl, the girl.
Speaker 1: Who came up to Jenna, Yeah, do you think that
Speaker 1: was all pre arranged or do you think she legitimately
Speaker 1: like was interested.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming if I were to guess, is that they
Speaker 2: sat down. They have to before you film anything, as
Speaker 2: you know, there has to be permits, everything has to
Speaker 2: be signed. My guess is everybody within that club had
Speaker 2: to sign a release, a release, right, and that girl
Speaker 2: took her opportunity to be on television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what you think. You don't think it
Speaker 1: was pre arranged. You think she just wanted to get
Speaker 1: her two minutes of fame in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's like Aaron's sister at the engagement party.
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you guys are being rude. He'd like to
Speaker 1: be quiet.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was pre arranged. But I think
Speaker 2: she signed the release and they were like, great, she
Speaker 2: went crazy. Perfect, But Aaron Abensai and David going to
Speaker 2: double date. Aaron asked Abe and David what would happen
Speaker 2: if they did not have sex for a year and
Speaker 2: a half. Abe says he would other women. Yeah, Aaron
Speaker 2: says she would have sex with another man. They have
Speaker 2: talked about having a threesome. Abe would only want another woman,
Speaker 2: but Aaron would want a guy. I don't think they're
Speaker 2: on the same page. Whi's threesome. Abe says he would
Speaker 2: be okay if Aaron had sex with another man, but
Speaker 2: he would have to be in the room and it
Speaker 2: cannot be someone he knows. Aaron says it would be
Speaker 2: fine if it was a gay guy. Explain all of
Speaker 2: this to me, please, None of it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I feel like they were just they were just adding
Speaker 1: stuff as they went because clearly they were not.
Speaker 2: This was not talked about previously. They didn't plan this.
Speaker 2: They out, well, okay. Then the women are doing a
Speaker 2: sound bath. Brand can't come because she has COVID. Si
Speaker 2: starts to giggle. She does not like this. Uba gets
Speaker 2: emotional when the teacher tells her that her mother is
Speaker 2: here in spirit. Listen, get a sound bath all you want,
Speaker 2: go on retreats. But like I do feel like mommy
Speaker 2: Daris at this point, like, no more sound bath, you know?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Then Sy and her daughter, London, go out for dessert.
Speaker 2: London tells Cy about her audition. London is a ballerina
Speaker 2: and she wants to be a Broadway actress. Si says
Speaker 2: she wanted to be a gymnast growing up, but couldn't
Speaker 2: afford classes. She says that she is living through her daughter.
Speaker 2: Is there something you weren't able to do as a
Speaker 2: child that you now feel like you're living through your child? Now?
Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't able to do a lot
Speaker 1: of things as a child. But I mean I've talked
Speaker 1: about my childhood lot. I didn't grow up with any
Speaker 1: money at all, I mean none. It was you know,
Speaker 1: very limited. Yeah, but I mean I understood that scene
Speaker 1: because I feel the same. You know, I have a daughter.
Speaker 1: I have annabel and Annabelle's and everything possible. She's on
Speaker 1: a cheer team, she takes private tennis lessons, she takes
Speaker 1: private karate lessons, she does everything that.
Speaker 2: She could ever want to do.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I vicariously live a childhood that
Speaker 1: I always wished.
Speaker 2: I had through her.
Speaker 1: But it's very frustrating too when you have children that
Speaker 1: have everything they could ever want, because then I worry
Speaker 1: about spoiling.
Speaker 2: Them, and I know it's so hard.
Speaker 1: It's like I want to give her everything, and we
Speaker 1: can give her everything, but then am I doing her
Speaker 1: a disservice by giving her everything? But I never had anything,
Speaker 1: so I want to. I don't know, it's I don't
Speaker 1: know how to balance that. I think it's a it's
Speaker 1: a tricky balance.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was in the situation where I had
Speaker 2: kind of everything when I was with my dad, and
Speaker 2: for a while, I had everything when I was with
Speaker 2: my mom, and then all of a sudden, my mom
Speaker 2: no longer had the financial backing and everything shifted and
Speaker 2: we were, you know, everything about our life change but
Speaker 2: I watch myself trying to teach my kids about like
Speaker 2: the concept of like working hard for anything that you
Speaker 2: want and wanting to make money, and then they'll say
Speaker 2: little things and I'm like, oh, no, I'm raising little assholes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that a lot. Because Annabelle will
Speaker 1: be like, well, I don't understand why we can't go
Speaker 1: to South Coast because I would like to go to Zara,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what am I I don't know?
Speaker 2: You know, no, even today, I was like, okay, I
Speaker 2: called our uber to go back after the horse show.
Speaker 2: Granted we have horses that have come to Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: To show in our nationals. And she goes, did you
Speaker 2: get an ARX?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, I did. And the other
Speaker 2: alternative is to jog. Yeah, Like, how do you even know?
Speaker 2: She goes, well, the other day it was a suburban
Speaker 2: I go, well, that was by chance. I didn't order that.
Speaker 1: They just came right.
Speaker 2: But either way, how are you feeling about this? I
Speaker 2: know you love have it?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 2: I mean, I find him amusing, but do you how
Speaker 2: do you feel about the sex aiversary? Okay, the whole
Speaker 2: sex thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's either made up
Speaker 1: as a storyline because it doesn't. Honestly, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to me. First of all, let me just tell
Speaker 1: you if I did not have sex with Shane Simpson
Speaker 1: for a year and a half, there would be a
Speaker 1: serious fricking problem. There wouldn't be like joking and I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be a problem, like a problem.
Speaker 2: Well, I can say after Cruise me and Edwin did
Speaker 2: not for probably nine months. It was a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it was a problem, right, It was a real problem, right,
Speaker 2: And it took us like it wasn't. We weren't laughing
Speaker 2: about it, right, That's what I'm saying. It was like
Speaker 2: it was. It was a problem. It was a real
Speaker 2: problem problem between both of us. I didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 2: in my own skin. I wasn't allowing him in. And
Speaker 2: then the more that he wasn't, then when he stopped trying,
Speaker 2: then I resented him and there was all these other
Speaker 2: you know, like it just became there was definitely like
Speaker 2: no jokes, me throwing on some lingerie like he right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The sandwich from Vietnam starts to make sense.
Speaker 2: Sandwich sandwich, getting your miles in sandwich also, do people
Speaker 2: really do that where they want to get so many
Speaker 2: miles they're just doing mileage.
Speaker 1: I had never heard of that before. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that was a thing.
Speaker 2: I was not a thing. I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 2: get a credit card until like six years ago, so I.
Speaker 1: Just like a few months ago, I was never allowed
Speaker 1: to have one. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I only had a deit card, so that's all I
Speaker 2: was allowed to have. But I don't know. It seems
Speaker 2: like I want to root for them, but I also
Speaker 2: am like, I don't know. Maybe I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So but did they have sex? They did have sex, right,
Speaker 1: doesn't she say? Like there was sex?
Speaker 2: She says that Brent told her to go cowgirl him,
Speaker 2: and she straddles him and licks him. Jessel then comes
Speaker 2: out wearing lingerie with a cheetah coat and heels I
Speaker 2: like the cheetah coat. It's a nice time. You liked it.
Speaker 2: I like kept it classy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's better than the Christmas tree lingerie.
Speaker 2: Do you dress up?
Speaker 1: I mean no, but Shane would. He encourages me daily.
Speaker 1: He's the lingerie man.
Speaker 2: And I honestly, even though I.
Speaker 1: Didn't complain about the way I looked for like the
Speaker 1: fat pass BYRS. I wasn't comfortable with the way I
Speaker 1: looked because I had an extra forty pounds on that
Speaker 1: I was trying to navigate and do it in a
Speaker 1: healthy way. And but every time he wanted lingerie, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to put lingerie on.
Speaker 2: I don't want any likes thy hids.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put thigh highs on when you
Speaker 1: have extra forty pounds on, because.
Speaker 2: Thigh hids, that's it just it just makes lumps like
Speaker 2: it's not sick now and they're itchy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like you know, for them to stay tight,
Speaker 1: it just squeezes your thigh and then there's like a
Speaker 1: roll of fat over the top. No thank you, Like
Speaker 1: I don't feel sexy like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought Edwin always said he was not like
Speaker 2: a fan of He's like, oh, I don't care either way.
Speaker 2: And then I there was like a sale on Revolve
Speaker 2: and I like bought a bunch and one day I
Speaker 2: had it on and he was like and it was
Speaker 2: like this game, And I was like, why didn't you
Speaker 2: just say you actually like this kind of lingerie is
Speaker 2: actually effortless for me? I don't need to wear eberge
Speaker 2: or like, what is it from Target that we all
Speaker 2: get Jillian O'Malley every day, Like, I'm fine to just
Speaker 2: bruce it up with some short shorts cotton. Yeah no,
Speaker 2: but I was like, just tell me and I'll like.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he didn't know until he saw it.
Speaker 2: Oh, he was just overwhelmed. He's like, oh, he was
Speaker 2: just taking a back.
Speaker 1: He had no idea what was under the normal move.
Speaker 2: Moves you usually were.
Speaker 1: He was like, damn, your Star Wars boxer shorts haven't
Speaker 1: been doing it for me for the last fourteen years.
Speaker 2: It's so weird. But then Jessel is forty one minutes
Speaker 2: late for lunch, which I believe is nine minutes earlier
Speaker 2: than Dree was. Oh shit, thirteen thirteen. But Si actually stayed,
Speaker 2: but you could tell she didn't want to. I don't
Speaker 2: think I don't think she wanted to hear one thing
Speaker 2: that Jessel had to say.
Speaker 1: So I felt like Jessel didn't read the room very
Speaker 1: well when she first arrived. I mean, I could feel
Speaker 1: the tension like permeating off of Ci and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this launch is just not going to go well.
Speaker 2: When you sit down and you say to somebody like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a drink, and they're like, I have
Speaker 2: a nice tea. Yeah, you know, You're like, let's keep
Speaker 2: it moving, right done. Then Jessel then says she has
Speaker 2: a similar Why did Jessel have to say she has
Speaker 2: a similar situation? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why she feels the need to do that.
Speaker 1: I just wanted I was just silently in my head
Speaker 1: going stop, please, stop to stop.
Speaker 2: She says her uncle who lived with her was an alcoholic,
Speaker 2: and she blames herself for not helping him and he
Speaker 2: passed away. CI thinks this is very dramatic and it's
Speaker 2: confused since Jessel just apologized but now turns around and
Speaker 2: shares a story. I think Jessel is really just trying
Speaker 2: to figure out any way to relate to cy. I
Speaker 2: don't like too, I feel like it. She cannot read
Speaker 2: a room. No, she can't read a room at all.
Speaker 2: But I give her credit for trying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt I felt her in that moment.
Speaker 1: She was trying hard, but she just I don't know,
Speaker 1: like size face, like, she just wasn't having it. She
Speaker 1: wasn't interested, she wanted to leave. She made several comments
Speaker 1: that were like snarky and rude, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: a Friday, I normally have to work. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: at lunch.
Speaker 2: And some of us have real jobs. Yeah, Instagram influencers, right.
Speaker 1: I was like, I felt like I would have been like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how about we just rescheduled this some other time when
Speaker 1: it's convenient for you.
Speaker 2: But also, how come when people are late, they don't
Speaker 2: just like say, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Why
Speaker 2: doesn't that happen in the world of housewives?
Speaker 1: I don't know, And why are you so late in
Speaker 1: the world of housewives? That's the part I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I've never shown up anywhere late for filming in five years,
Speaker 1: never me neither ever, not one time, not even five
Speaker 1: minutes late. So I don't understand. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: you show up that late.
Speaker 2: Because you're creating a look a look. It's not a look.
Speaker 2: You're creating a look a look, and your look you're
Speaker 2: when you've got like a very fancy glam team, your
Speaker 2: luke takes over anybody else's time. See.
Speaker 1: But I have such time anxiety that I would walk
Speaker 1: out in the middle of my makeup session to get
Speaker 1: somewhere on time. I would have one eye completely done
Speaker 1: in the other one not, and I would still go
Speaker 1: to lunch to make sure I got there on time.
Speaker 2: I also want to be clear, no matter how much
Speaker 2: makeup I have on or how little, I look only
Speaker 2: about five percent better, Like it's there's really there's not
Speaker 2: a huge red. Why do you even bother? Why are
Speaker 2: you even paying? Because I right now I do fully
Speaker 2: look like I could be on America's Most Wanted list,
Speaker 2: like with LAMB at least I look like I'm off
Speaker 2: the list and like been in hiding for a couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 1: Well, what's that serial kill? That Charlie's theah Aleen Warner?
Speaker 1: You got that vibe right now? I do?
Speaker 2: And you know what this denim? Thank you, You're welcome,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. But speaking of glam, take a
Speaker 2: little break and then we'll come back and discuss Salt Lake,
Speaker 2: because Lisa is really sticking to her commitment to glam,
Speaker 2: showing up to a facial in fullness.
Speaker 1: And I like how they had to like do the
Speaker 1: facial around her glam.
Speaker 2: They're just like but then they also like the shade
Speaker 2: of it all. They like showed every time her skin
Speaker 2: started to get red like they would like zoom in,
Speaker 2: like all of our skin gets red with a facial,
Speaker 2: But like the marit of this, they didn't show it
Speaker 2: at all, and they like like every time they took
Speaker 2: the make it off. I'm like, leave the girl's roseta alone.
Speaker 2: At this point, I've got it. But that facial did
Speaker 2: look amazing. I wanted it. Unlike a sound bath, I
Speaker 2: actually wanted to have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like spaw appointments. You can never have
Speaker 1: too many of those on Housewives, but sound baths and
Speaker 1: shamans are own.
Speaker 2: But that picture of their faces actually haunted my dream.
Speaker 2: I watched it right last night, right after I'd taken
Speaker 2: my Chile and l PM, and I was like laying
Speaker 2: there and I was like, it was a real freaking fright.
Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, they didn't even have noses. Things were
Speaker 2: Then we get to Whitney telling Monica that the trip
Speaker 2: was a red flag for I loved Whitney. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say I loved Whitney in the scene. I've been giving
Speaker 2: her a hard time this season, but Whitney tells Monica
Speaker 2: that the trip was a red flag for her. Seeing
Speaker 2: Monica go after Lisa and Angie. Whitney says it looked
Speaker 2: like Monica went against her two friends to Monica says
Speaker 2: she felt Meredith needed someone to have her back. Whitney
Speaker 2: tells her to be careful when he says Meredith pulled
Speaker 2: her aside at the airport and told her she has
Speaker 2: starred on Angie. She says she always does this, and
Speaker 2: we'll do it to Monica too. Okay, question, do you
Speaker 2: feel like Monica was being a good friend to Angie
Speaker 2: by criticizing her comments to Meredith or do you think
Speaker 2: Monica is just trying to ingratiate herself more with the
Speaker 2: seasoned cast members.
Speaker 1: No, I feel like she was sucking up to Meredith.
Speaker 1: I felt like if she was really friends, she could
Speaker 1: have done it in a different way. I mean, like
Speaker 1: pulled her to the side or had a conversation later
Speaker 1: or that. And Monica isn't helping her friends. She's trying
Speaker 1: to make them look obnoxious. She's trying to highlight that
Speaker 1: they're being obnoxious, or they're being rude, or they're yelling
Speaker 1: too much or whatever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but the problem is now I find Monica obnoxious.
Speaker 2: I liked I gave her some grace and I kind
Speaker 2: of thought she was fun because she does good confessionals,
Speaker 2: but now she's trying to bug me. Yeah. Then we
Speaker 2: get to the scene where Aungie K talks about how
Speaker 2: her husband, how her and her husband's marriage has changed
Speaker 2: since their daughter was born. She's so focused on her
Speaker 2: daughter that she forgets she's a wife. Do you sympathize
Speaker 2: with this? Did your marriage has intimacy change after your children?
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: To me, after having five, I feel like if I
Speaker 1: had one, I'd I'd have sex like eight times a
Speaker 1: day because I'd have so much time.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, also, here's the thing. Let me take
Speaker 2: that back. Eight times. That's a lot of time, like
Speaker 2: once eight times to like cruish once once one time.
Speaker 2: Like with four play four play? What's four play? Four play?
Speaker 2: Is like not just sticking it in like you're doing
Speaker 2: all the things.
Speaker 1: So four plays Like here, I bought you some twizzlers.
Speaker 2: Like that, let's talk business. Here's some And I saw
Speaker 2: your and out earlier, so I got you some extra
Speaker 2: special sauce. And I did reply to the tax attorney.
Speaker 2: You're well, oh my god, I can't with you. You're
Speaker 2: you're so larsa Pippen at this moment.
Speaker 1: Shane loves Larsa Pippen, so that's probably a good thing
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: He does me, Larsa Pippin.
Speaker 1: Larsa Pippen. Yeah, we were at Bravo con. He had
Speaker 1: to find her. I was like, really, Shane, alright.
Speaker 2: Who's his number one housewife other than you?
Speaker 1: Well, it's probably not me, because it's probably not you either.
Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably lars It used to be.
Speaker 2: This is funny. It might still be.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Alexis Blino.
Speaker 1: He was what he loves some Jesus jokes.
Speaker 2: I cannot And I saw her.
Speaker 1: I saw her the other day because I'm friendly with her,
Speaker 1: and we were at the Monarch Beach Resort, like at
Speaker 1: the pool together. And I tell you, he has never
Speaker 1: been so interested in the story, and.
Speaker 2: He never once has cared one thing I've ever had
Speaker 2: to say to him. He's like, wait, what was she?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: Who was she with? What would she say? What was
Speaker 2: she wearing? Oh God, please stop. Well that's not what
Speaker 2: I That's not what I pegged, No, what I pegged.
Speaker 2: But I did appreciate Angie being open about that conversation.
Speaker 2: I don't if I feel like they gave me more backstory,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if Angie has one child because
Speaker 2: they only wanted one child, or they struggled with infertility
Speaker 2: or what all of that is, because I do think
Speaker 2: that played into some of my issues, like having miscarriages,
Speaker 2: having like finally having a baby, being carried, about having
Speaker 2: sex while I was pregnant, like all of those things
Speaker 2: I think played into some of our intimacy issues during
Speaker 2: cruise so that I can relate to more that. But
Speaker 2: I do think they did. I guess played it up
Speaker 2: when they were like, her hair looks so beautiful playing
Speaker 2: in bed, I was like, is this Tangled? I saw
Speaker 2: this movie? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I feel like there definitely needs to be more
Speaker 1: background information for me to understand where she's coming from.
Speaker 1: Is it because she works a lot, so she feels guilty,
Speaker 1: so then when she's home she feels like she needs
Speaker 1: to spend.
Speaker 2: All her time with her daughter.
Speaker 1: Or is it because yeah, is it because she wanted
Speaker 1: to have more and she only has one, so then
Speaker 1: she's very invested in one and spending I don't know,
Speaker 1: I need more background information.
Speaker 2: But also there's always once you actually decide that you
Speaker 2: want to commit to having intimacy with your partner. There's
Speaker 2: always time you can figure it out. At a certain
Speaker 2: age they go to school, you can get it in.
Speaker 2: I was. I was a little envious of the poodle's
Speaker 2: roots were done better than mine currently.
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, you should ask the poodle where
Speaker 1: the poodle gets this air done?
Speaker 2: Probably from her husband, aren't they both there? That's right,
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 1: What's it called.
Speaker 2: Lunatic friend something? I have absolutely no idea, but I
Speaker 2: do appreciate your memory. Heather then talks to her daughters
Speaker 2: about how they were getting bullied in school. This started
Speaker 2: when Heather left the church and got worse when Heather
Speaker 2: published the book. Heather gets emotional hearing her daughters minimize
Speaker 2: the way they have been treated at school since their
Speaker 2: mind's Heather herself, how would you approach your situation if
Speaker 2: you were Like if you were Heather, I almost felt
Speaker 2: like I almost felt like, the kids don't think it's
Speaker 2: that bad. No, I agreed with me a bigger deal
Speaker 2: of it for a storyline.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually I thought her kids were great because
Speaker 1: I thought her kids were so stoic and they spoke
Speaker 1: about it really well, and they were like, it doesn't
Speaker 1: bother us, and you know, that's what kids do. And
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny and it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought they were very strong. They have very strong personalities.
Speaker 1: They seem to have a lot of confidence in who
Speaker 1: they are, and I thought that was I thought that
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, I felt like she kept pushing the narrative, like, well,
Speaker 1: don't you feel this way?
Speaker 2: Are you sure you don't feel like that? You know,
Speaker 2: like I want to write a second book, but I'm
Speaker 2: worried about you guys. They're like, we're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like my question is if you're gonna write a
Speaker 1: book called Bad Mormon and you live in the Happy
Speaker 1: Valley in Salt Lake City, which is where I used
Speaker 1: to live there for five years, it's very heavily concentrated Mormons.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was the only non Mormon. I
Speaker 1: probably was because the missionaries always came to my house
Speaker 1: because they probably had nowhere else to go. They were like,
Speaker 1: there's that one girl.
Speaker 2: We saw her at Starbucks drinking a coffee. We saw
Speaker 2: her she had a tank top on and she wasn't
Speaker 2: at the gym.
Speaker 1: No, we're going to her house. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of have to expect that
Speaker 1: people aren't going to be very happy with the things
Speaker 1: that you say in your book. I didn't read the book,
Speaker 1: so I.
Speaker 2: Listen. The last book I read was Andy Cohles because
Speaker 2: he was coming on the pod, like I listened to books.
Speaker 2: My eyes are so bad. We're lucky now, But it did.
Speaker 2: I do want to know how good that hot chocolate was, though,
Speaker 2: with the freaking snow in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love snow. You don't know where that snow?
Speaker 1: What has been over the snow?
Speaker 2: She's she already had like a thing with hot tub water.
Speaker 2: Now it's snow. I'm like, I can't. But then Angie
Speaker 2: shows up with sunglasses once again. She's I think she's
Speaker 2: gonna save us from an alien invasion. She's welding later.
Speaker 2: She's going to weld something later. Listen. I will do
Speaker 2: anything if Angie would send us these sunglasses. But I've
Speaker 2: put out multiple hints on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I feel like the next time we do this podcast,
Speaker 1: we should wear those the whole time.
Speaker 2: They're very expensive. I wanted to get them for us
Speaker 2: because I thought it would be fun if we and
Speaker 2: then you.
Speaker 1: Were like, I'm not spending that much money on Emily.
Speaker 2: I hate to break it to you, Emily, but like
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get your downloads up to get
Speaker 2: these kind of sunglass All right, I'm gonna work on it.
Speaker 2: But then we get to Lisa telling Monica that she
Speaker 2: was bummed because she called her materialistic and tells her
Speaker 2: to read the room since everyone is materialistic. Lisa points
Speaker 2: out what all of the ladies are wearing bambin Valentino.
Speaker 2: Then Monica goes. Monica says the other ladies are not like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm getting on a private jet with Snoop Dogg. Lisa
Speaker 2: says she has never said that and tells her she
Speaker 2: is lying. Then Angie tries to get Monica to stop
Speaker 2: talking by putting a cookie stick in her mouth. Monica
Speaker 2: tells Lisa to get her fingers out of her face.
Speaker 2: Was Lisa being too aggressive in this argument?
Speaker 1: No, I don't you know what. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: because I honestly get tired of the whole your materialistic accusations.
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, Lisa has money, She's worked hard, her husband.
Speaker 1: I don't know what her husband does, he probably makes
Speaker 1: a lot of money. But I mean anybody that spends
Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars a year on glam has to have
Speaker 1: a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let's figure out what the glam is. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's say Standard Glam. Are you good at math
Speaker 2: or do no music? I'm not.
Speaker 1: I went to law school because I hated math.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say Standard Glam's two hundred dollars. Would
Speaker 2: you say that's accurate?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And so from makeup, so two hundred. So how do
Speaker 2: we figure this out?
Speaker 1: I was I was averaging it at two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty times seven days a week because she says it's
Speaker 1: every day, even to go to the grocery store.
Speaker 2: So if she was getting it seven days a week,
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five days a year, it's seventy
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of days she takes off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's sick, right, She's like, if you're you have COVID yeah,
Speaker 2: or you're not feeling one hundred percent right, or if
Speaker 2: you don't leave their hot if maybe if you leave
Speaker 2: your house, like I don't know there Either way, there's
Speaker 2: we're working with thirteen thousand extra dollars.
Speaker 1: I guess my point is I'm tired of the constant
Speaker 1: like your materialistic I don't think people who have money
Speaker 1: should have to apologize for having money. And if she
Speaker 1: wants to wear a designer and she wants to have
Speaker 1: a fancy ski party or no ski party or whatever,
Speaker 1: she wants to have an ice sculpture, that's her prerogative,
Speaker 1: and she shouldn't be made to feel badly about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Monica can only afford Zara, then nobody
Speaker 1: should make her feel badly about wearing Zara. So it
Speaker 1: should go both ways.
Speaker 2: Well know who I feel like should be offended? Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 2: Well Snoop Dogg, for sure, he's like why, He's like why?
Speaker 2: But also Vita because this was a Vita event. But
Speaker 2: I didn't see one Vita bottle in attendance, like where I.
Speaker 1: Was like, well, they had to BEATA logo on the
Speaker 1: ice sculpture, right, do.
Speaker 2: You I want you to take your memory back? Do
Speaker 2: you see one bottle?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: You even saw a glass pouring it in, right? Not
Speaker 2: one bottle? Yeah? You gotta. I mean my all in
Speaker 2: by Teddy retreat, Like like even my freaking toilet paper
Speaker 2: had set all in by Teddy just in case, it
Speaker 2: like fell out into that. It's very heather to brow
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 5: HD HD, But I I I'm kind of curious at
Speaker 5: this point if something is said off camera before you
Speaker 5: even were friends, you were Jen's assistant.
Speaker 2: If in fact Lisa did say I could have been
Speaker 2: on a jet with Snoop Dogg, whether she's joking or
Speaker 2: I feel like it was probably I don't really imagine
Speaker 2: that Lisa Barlow could have been on a jet with
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love it, like you can't make you
Speaker 1: can't figure out a scenario where that would take place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm really trying to go over in my head,
Speaker 2: like as he's really obsessed with Vita. No, maybe he
Speaker 2: was going to Sundance. Shia already lives there, right, so
Speaker 2: what then they were going back to New York together
Speaker 2: so she could do watch What Happens live like.
Speaker 1: We have from the Sun Dance. I don't know, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I do feel like at this point, you know what
Speaker 2: show you're on, you know what you're doing. If she
Speaker 2: did say the Snoop Dogg comment, which I kind of
Speaker 2: don't feel like she did, why is Monica bringing up
Speaker 2: something from when it at least I know for my
Speaker 2: years of being an assistant, you don't share that shit,
Speaker 2: like you take your assistant job to the like you're
Speaker 2: done right right, But she brought it back up. Then
Speaker 2: we get Whitney dancing and Mary saying I don't know
Speaker 2: about Whitney. Whitney looks cheap. She looks cheap. I I
Speaker 2: Mary really does make me laugh. But why I don't like?
Speaker 1: Okay, she annoyed me the last episode because she literally
Speaker 1: did nothing except stay on the sprinter.
Speaker 2: Van the entire time. For everything, I don't even know why.
Speaker 1: She bothers to get dressed and put does hair and
Speaker 1: makeup and then she just gets on the sprinter van.
Speaker 1: But this episode I found her amusing again because she
Speaker 1: just made fun of everyone.
Speaker 2: Well I did find her amusing, but like she has
Speaker 2: a lot of nerve, like we just saw you tear
Speaker 2: into some McDonald's and yet you're gonna say that Whitney
Speaker 2: looks cheap.
Speaker 1: Well no, And then she made fun of Monica's eating,
Speaker 1: like when she was eating the crepe, She's like, are
Speaker 1: you gonna eat that?
Speaker 2: Do you eat like that? Do you always eat like that?
Speaker 2: Like do you want do you want a body like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I felt like there was a hint
Speaker 1: of body shaving in there. There was a hint of
Speaker 1: like you'd be a pretty girl if you put the
Speaker 1: creep down, like.
Speaker 2: Step away from the crpe monica. You didn't need the
Speaker 2: second one. It was right. But yet, why why are
Speaker 2: we all? Why is everybody like standing Mary? Like Mary
Speaker 2: is hilarious, she's the best, she's whatever. Because if Mary
Speaker 2: was actually a part of any other conversation, I don't
Speaker 2: think people would find her funny. It's because she's so
Speaker 2: far removed. Yeah, it would be funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know it's it's almost like she has
Speaker 1: immunity because she doesn't involve herself in anything. She just
Speaker 1: sits back and then she just takes cracks at people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, she doesn't have to actually get involved
Speaker 1: in any of the arguments. She doesn't have to defend herself,
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to articulate anything. She just sits back,
Speaker 1: refuses to have anything to do with anyone. And then
Speaker 1: she's like you look cheap and that why do you
Speaker 1: wear that necklace? Oh?
Speaker 2: And you should put the other a break clearly, like
Speaker 2: this isn't the fashion award, Like but Heather's like, no,
Speaker 2: I thought it brought out the color, and She's like,
Speaker 2: absolutely not. Looks terrible. Never seen anything worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, while she had an outfit on that was like
Speaker 1: eight sizes too big for her. I didn't even understand
Speaker 1: what was going on. Like her her coat was in
Speaker 1: the pizza, it was too big.
Speaker 2: She had a.
Speaker 1: Skirt on that looked like it was gonna fall off
Speaker 1: of her.
Speaker 2: It didn't look like it fits. It was just a
Speaker 2: bunch of camel colored It was just shreds of leather.
Speaker 1: I mean it was shreds of quilted leather sewn together
Speaker 1: and thrown off.
Speaker 2: My brin one of Bren's extra hobbies. But then Monica
Speaker 2: tells Whitney that the rumor about Angie K's husband is
Speaker 2: that he f uc ks other men and that they
Speaker 2: have an arrangement and that their marriage is fake. Whitney
Speaker 2: and Monica sit Angie down to tell her the rumor.
Speaker 2: I don't think Monica wanted to sit Angie down at.
Speaker 1: All, but she but she to tell her. I don't
Speaker 1: think she had any problem telling her.
Speaker 2: No. I think she wanted Meredith to like blind side.
Speaker 2: I thought I think she wanted it to be a
Speaker 2: blind side with all the women. I don't think they're wanting.
Speaker 1: Oh you think she got she got roped into that
Speaker 1: sit down and she was like, that's not how.
Speaker 2: This is supposed to know. She's like, no, I want
Speaker 2: this to be a full breakdown, not like we're gonna
Speaker 2: pull you aside and.
Speaker 1: Tell you warn you first, right Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think she was like what then? Angie says
Speaker 2: she has been with her husband for twenty seven years
Speaker 2: and the only one spreading her legs outside of her
Speaker 2: marriage is Meredith. Monica says, Meredith is saying that Angie's
Speaker 2: husband's boyfriend needs to be quiet because they're talking in
Speaker 2: the street about her husband. She was talking in the street.
Speaker 2: I hate what people say, like they're who's they like
Speaker 2: the six other women on the show, or Meredith who
Speaker 2: doesn't even live in Salt Lake City, or the men
Speaker 2: he's allegedly sleeping with.
Speaker 1: So the men are the ones that are talking, right,
Speaker 1: Is that that's who it is?
Speaker 2: Well if that's the case, then bring them on, because
Speaker 2: I that's what she's saying. So if they're actually talking,
Speaker 2: then I need a confessional with them. They can borrow
Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow's glam and let's hear what they have to
Speaker 2: say about it, because this is as real as the
Speaker 2: text message you got about Shane in between his in
Speaker 2: and out stops. Yeah. Like, but I feel like they
Speaker 2: all just kind of played into Meredith's hand at this
Speaker 2: point because now she can say I never said that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because remember last episode she alleges that she knows all
Speaker 2: these shows things. Then on watch What Happens Live last
Speaker 2: week she's like, I never actually said anything, because she's
Speaker 2: always with that double standard of putting things out there
Speaker 2: for other people to do her dirty.
Speaker 1: But do you think Monica legitimately had heard that outside
Speaker 1: of the women or do you think have told her
Speaker 1: at some point and that's how she knew it? And
Speaker 1: then she'd and then Monica just got stopped being the scapegoat,
Speaker 1: the one that actually says it out loud.
Speaker 2: My guess is Meredith and I have no actual idea,
Speaker 2: But my guess is Genshaw and Meredith probably discussed this
Speaker 2: at some point while Monica was Genshaw's assistant. They all
Speaker 2: then continued gossiping about it once Jinshaw went off to prison,
Speaker 2: and then they decided to create this to be the
Speaker 2: storyline because from an outsider's view, who doesn't really have
Speaker 2: any skin in this game, it appears to me that
Speaker 2: Angie might be the most wealthy in the group. Angie
Speaker 2: actually lives in Salt Lake City. She has a beautiful home,
Speaker 2: she has a thriving business. She her life seems pretty
Speaker 2: good from what I've heard. Meredith leaves the day.
Speaker 1: That filming ends, leaves like, go somewhere else. Yeah, does
Speaker 1: not live in Salt Lake City?
Speaker 2: Where does she live?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 2: I think they just kind of rent places wherever, which
Speaker 2: I'm not judging on renting, like, do what you gotta do,
Speaker 2: but I just be transparent. Yeah, Like it'd be like
Speaker 2: me saying at this moment, Oh, I live full time
Speaker 2: in Orange County, Teddy, No, you don't. You go on
Speaker 2: the weekends? Right? If I do fully move there, my
Speaker 2: kids will then go to school there. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I don't like it. But I do think
Speaker 2: Monica was was doing was doing her the best she
Speaker 2: can to stir it. And the thing that I am
Speaker 2: curious about is Monica has already shared so much about
Speaker 2: her personal cheating and all those things.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: Why she's so revved up about Angie's relationship well.
Speaker 1: I'm confused why her relationship hasn't come back up, Like
Speaker 1: she just announced that at dinner and everyone was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's so funny, and then they just moved on and
Speaker 1: no one cares that.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't, I guess because they've all known
Speaker 2: about it for so long, but now everybody cares. I mean,
Speaker 2: twenty seven years, that's a really long time to be married. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, how long have you been married to Shane fifteen?
Speaker 2: I've been married fourteen years. I can say this. I
Speaker 2: don't know, like I've never gone to dinner with them.
Speaker 2: I don't know them on a personal level, but her
Speaker 2: daughter rides horses and I see them together all of
Speaker 2: the time, Like so they're handholding, they're together. They seem
Speaker 2: if you see me and Edwin together, I feel like
Speaker 2: we're a relatively happily married couple. If you see us
Speaker 2: at a horse show together, it's me barking at him like, hey,
Speaker 2: get out of hack, like come on, that's right, you're late,
Speaker 2: you like, move your ass. They they seem like a
Speaker 2: really like happy couple, And I could be wrong, But
Speaker 2: I also don't really know why Meredith cares and Meredith
Speaker 2: dislikes Angie so much? Why does she care? Well?
Speaker 1: Why? The question is why does she dislike her so much?
Speaker 1: I feel like there's more there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I have to be more.
Speaker 1: Than just that one comment where she said that what
Speaker 1: is on a podcast that's supposedly Angie said something publicly
Speaker 1: about her like will never be friends or something like,
Speaker 1: first of all, if that's even true, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's so minimal in the whole world of housewives of
Speaker 1: things that people do to other people, like she was
Speaker 1: on a podcast and said we'll never be friends, and
Speaker 1: that's that's where all this hatred comes from from.
Speaker 2: My guess is that it's because Angie and Lisa Barlow
Speaker 2: have become close friends. And I think that Meredith hates
Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow with a burning passion. Even though we're seeing
Speaker 2: like some sort of like a makeup a makeup, I
Speaker 2: still think there is just so much hate because of
Speaker 2: that hot mic moment. She will never get over it,
Speaker 2: and the fact that those two have a connection really
Speaker 2: burns her up. It just burns her up. It's like
Speaker 2: when when Vicky sees me with Tamra, it just gives her.
Speaker 1: She's like, like it, but I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't get fomo. I don't like. If you became
Speaker 2: best friends as one of my best friends tomorrow, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, great, he's your first all to hang out
Speaker 2: or not like I don't care, Emily, I love spending
Speaker 2: time with you. Thank you so much. Hopefully next time
Speaker 2: we talk, I'll be outside of this dirty apartment.
Speaker 1: You'll be in there in that room.
Speaker 2: Maybe you should get some glam. Oh gosh, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just wander around Maryland looking for someone that can make
Speaker 2: me look two percent, asked Lisa Barlowe.
Speaker 1: Because she's got glam and and where she's got glam everywhere,
Speaker 1: she's problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's she's worldwide, worldwide glam. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you guys for tuning in. Let
Speaker 2: us know your thoughts and uh we'll talk to you soon.
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