Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Morning everybody, it's the j n V. Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests
Speaker 2: in the building. Hold on the legendary.
Speaker 3: I see he got his Morgan State.
Speaker 4: Really bro, really bro.
Speaker 1: You know, I just you know, want to put my
Speaker 1: helmet man. Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1: How y'all doing? Explain this to me?
Speaker 5: I know the Hampton Howard rivalry, but state, so every
Speaker 5: every every HBCU thinks it's the greatest HBCU that has
Speaker 5: ever been HBCU guys.
Speaker 4: Correct, the only real one.
Speaker 1: Is Morgan State.
Speaker 6: But then the other ones still feel like they are
Speaker 6: a Morgan State. So you have that Howard Hampton thing
Speaker 6: on more House thinks it's Morgan State.
Speaker 1: You know, fam you thinks it's Morgan State.
Speaker 6: And know this, I love those institutions, great institutions who
Speaker 6: turn out incredible people.
Speaker 3: But then nines, watch your mouth.
Speaker 1: Morgan State.
Speaker 3: I was good to go to Morgan State because that's
Speaker 3: the first school that's on the tour.
Speaker 1: You know your argument.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I was gonna go to Morgan
Speaker 2: I was gonna go to you know, we go to
Speaker 2: Morgan Howard vs U Virginia and then Hampton Hampton. Right
Speaker 2: when I went to Morgan State, I remember it like
Speaker 2: it was yesterday. The first thing we go on that
Speaker 2: on the campus, well what you want to call it
Speaker 2: a campus?
Speaker 6: Oh no, you didn't, just because y'all got that little
Speaker 6: river running behind y'all little school.
Speaker 3: Little campus.
Speaker 2: And then you know what I seen on my dad scene,
Speaker 2: y'all playing craps on the steps.
Speaker 3: Now, my dad was like, this is the same.
Speaker 1: Thing as Queens.
Speaker 3: Why are you gonna leave Queens to come to Baltimore.
Speaker 6: That's the school you want to play craps on the steps,
Speaker 6: that's what to So mine was the complete.
Speaker 4: Object as soon as I seen the crowd, like this
Speaker 4: is the place for pace.
Speaker 6: This is definitely the place for me to get a degree.
Speaker 6: It was perfect made five years. Then five years served
Speaker 6: me well, the five years and Baltimo can do it
Speaker 6: for No, I ain't do it in full me if
Speaker 6: I didn't five.
Speaker 1: No, I did.
Speaker 6: I did my five and I was an r a man.
Speaker 6: I did everything you could do at school. I was
Speaker 6: the mascot one semester. I needed a gym credit. I
Speaker 6: needed a gym credit. They was like, you wanna go
Speaker 6: lift weights or you want to be the mascot. I said, man,
Speaker 6: give me the bear outfits I was.
Speaker 4: I was the most DC bed he ate I had
Speaker 4: on my new ballance.
Speaker 6: Because it was a raggedy suit. Listen, Charlomade, it was
Speaker 6: a raggedy suit.
Speaker 1: At the time.
Speaker 6: We didn't have the funding to get a new mascot outfit.
Speaker 6: At that time, Mortgas State was going through something, so
Speaker 6: they gave me the old one that they used to
Speaker 6: have and thet the head was perfect, the suit, the
Speaker 6: feet garbage. So I used to rock whatever the bed
Speaker 6: would come out rocking fresh, new bus, new butter tims,
Speaker 6: beefing broccole is what you want.
Speaker 1: And everybody who was the bed he fresh. Whoever the
Speaker 1: bed the freshest man we ever had.
Speaker 5: Honestly, if you walk on the HBCU campus and rolling
Speaker 5: dice schedule, you might not need to go to an HBC.
Speaker 2: Was like, this is the same thing I seen in
Speaker 2: Queens and I don't want my kid to, you know,
Speaker 2: rolling craps.
Speaker 4: But that was so what it is.
Speaker 1: We wasn't rolling crafts. That was a probability study.
Speaker 4: You wasn't your father.
Speaker 1: It wasn't your pops wasn't here.
Speaker 6: That was just a probability study I got from some
Speaker 6: kids in the engineering department.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what's going on in in Morgan right now,
Speaker 2: Morgan State. You know there was a shooting there recently. Uh,
Speaker 2: you guys have canceled the homecoming and there was a
Speaker 2: lot going on. So have you reached back out to
Speaker 2: the school. How how is everything happening now? Because I
Speaker 2: know you're big when it comes to giving back to
Speaker 2: that school.
Speaker 6: So I was supposed to actually host our homecoming gala,
Speaker 6: which is the biggest fundraiser of the year. I host
Speaker 6: the gaily Year's shirt you know, tuxedo out, and that
Speaker 6: got postponed to December the eighth. The game, you know,
Speaker 6: all of the let's say this, the official homecoming got canceled.
Speaker 1: But Black people homecoming went on as plans.
Speaker 6: Oh, they were still part and they called it because
Speaker 6: the homecoming got canceled. Brunch because the homegum we got canceled.
Speaker 6: Day party because of the So we you know, you
Speaker 6: have thousands of people who were looking forward to this weekend.
Speaker 6: So they came down and had a great time and
Speaker 6: showed solidarity. You even after the shooting, you had mothers.
Speaker 6: There was a group of mothers who got together who
Speaker 6: were not didn't have students, didn't have kids in school,
Speaker 6: who came up just to show support for kids who
Speaker 6: were far away from home, who.
Speaker 1: Needed a mom. If you need a hug, if you
Speaker 1: need to ask a mom question real quick, we're standing
Speaker 1: right here. Wow.
Speaker 6: And so while you know the tragedy happened, and you
Speaker 6: know our prayers are with those students and their families
Speaker 6: and everybody affected, there's also this gigantic push of.
Speaker 1: Solidarity, this gigantic push of unity.
Speaker 6: This is a new Morgan State, and we're gonna stand
Speaker 6: together to shake off some of the old reputation, that
Speaker 6: rolling craps reputation that we had and move in a
Speaker 6: new positive way. When things like this pop up, it
Speaker 6: throws a monkey rich into the we're a new Morgan thing.
Speaker 1: So we came out even stronger. That's why I've been
Speaker 1: I've been orange and blue since that day.
Speaker 6: You know, my kids are walking around with the hats
Speaker 6: and everything else, and I'm screaming it out as much
Speaker 6: as I possibly can. These institutions. You know, I don't
Speaker 6: have to come on here and preach to you what
Speaker 6: an HBO means for our community. So you know, at
Speaker 6: this time in my life, I'm happy to be able
Speaker 6: to be there for my school.
Speaker 1: Whatever they need.
Speaker 6: They call me for anything, if the students need anything,
Speaker 6: my frat brothers need anything.
Speaker 1: They hit me up and like, let's go do X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. Do you think they should have canceled
Speaker 1: on coming.
Speaker 6: I think it was a good call by doctor Wilson
Speaker 6: is an incredible leader for that school and with uh,
Speaker 6: let's imagine if he didn't cancer this black Mama ain't canceling.
Speaker 1: It's a tragedy.
Speaker 6: So he did the smart thing. He did the thing
Speaker 6: that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this. Everybody
Speaker 6: else though, we went and partied and everybody had a
Speaker 6: great time yecause it's.
Speaker 1: All the events around homecomer. Yeah none, no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't. You ain't canceling rare essence.
Speaker 6: You ain't canceling the go go because you know, you're
Speaker 6: not even supposed to have a go go in Baltimore
Speaker 6: in the first place.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you got a go go in
Speaker 1: Baltimore or we coming, and you're not canceling that you
Speaker 1: can't go Baltimore. It's too old.
Speaker 6: It's two different cities. So Baltimore, most of the country
Speaker 6: doesn't rip, doesn't know that. There is a unspoken rivalry
Speaker 6: between the African American community and Baltimore. In the African
Speaker 6: American community in DC with thirty miles of forty fifty
Speaker 6: miles a half hour a part, forty minutes apart, and
Speaker 6: for us growing up, Baltimore is a whole nother country.
Speaker 1: We don't even know that Baltimore is there. And for Baltimore,
Speaker 1: growing up, DC is a whole nother stay south and
Speaker 1: they country. They think that we country. We think that
Speaker 1: their country.
Speaker 6: And you very it's a field trip when you're growing up.
Speaker 6: Baltimore is a field trip unless you have family there.
Speaker 6: Baltimore is a field trip. You get their TV stations
Speaker 6: maybe you know, if you live outside the city, you
Speaker 6: get some of the TV stations.
Speaker 1: They got their own language, they own and so we
Speaker 1: have two. We grew up with two different.
Speaker 6: Like you said, cultures, different accents, music, food, we did,
Speaker 6: way we dress and the like. So when I got
Speaker 6: to Baltimore, there was no go go whatsoever. You did
Speaker 6: not don't even don't even bring that up in Baltimore
Speaker 6: now because of I think because of the twenty thirty
Speaker 6: years that DC has been heavy going to Morgan State
Speaker 6: making alliances in the city. My wife is from the
Speaker 6: West Side. First, let me say that my wife is
Speaker 6: from the West side of Baltimore. And when I married
Speaker 6: a Baltimore woman, the DC women.
Speaker 4: Like, hold on out, now, that's not what we're doing.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's what we do.
Speaker 6: You you don't sleep for her, you haven't had some
Speaker 6: of that that old bait that she served. She's got
Speaker 6: a crab boy for your ass that you you don't
Speaker 6: know nothing about. And so I think that there's there's
Speaker 6: there's slowly, but surely there's there's an alliance that has
Speaker 6: been coming between Baltimore and DC, at least the the
Speaker 6: the hard line has been softened. I won't say it
Speaker 6: is an alliance, but the hard line has been softened
Speaker 6: so that you can have a go go in d C.
Speaker 6: DC still is hardcore. We won't accept like Baltimore night
Speaker 6: but I love Baltimore club music, house music, I love
Speaker 6: I look. It's such an incredible and rich city that
Speaker 6: I have. So I gained so much respect for by
Speaker 6: going to Morgan State and then by having friends who
Speaker 6: were from Baltimore, and eventually I met that woman and
Speaker 6: then that just deepened, you know.
Speaker 1: My appreciation for Baltimore.
Speaker 6: I actually just opened a business in Baltimore's substance abuse
Speaker 6: treatment facility in the city of Baltimore.
Speaker 1: My wife and I, you know, I have a degree
Speaker 1: in college in case.
Speaker 3: Okay, and.
Speaker 1: So we did that. So I had that's me and Baltimore.
Speaker 6: And and for most people, you there's a documentary uh
Speaker 6: oh god, I wish I could remember the name about
Speaker 6: Baltimore house music that goes into their culture. And then
Speaker 6: there's a there's tons of documentaries about go Go, you
Speaker 6: see our culture, but you never hear about this rivalry
Speaker 6: that we had that goes on.
Speaker 1: I think it's the stupidest thing ever.
Speaker 6: I think that the two communities, African American communities in
Speaker 6: those major cities. DC's a major city, Baltimore is a
Speaker 6: major city.
Speaker 1: I think we need to come. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Is there anything that brings you all together? I would
Speaker 5: think like comedy, right, because I think your comedy underrated.
Speaker 5: Comedy is an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, DC. Because
Speaker 5: you got Dave, you got Donall, so here quick just hilarious.
Speaker 1: So here's how we feel about that. The same applies.
Speaker 1: So so it's like this growing up.
Speaker 6: Anything coming out of Baltimore you just automatically and if
Speaker 6: you in Baltimore, any thing coming out of DC, you
Speaker 6: just automatically acts, not eight you don't know them. I
Speaker 6: learned that from my bottom, my Baltimore goons.
Speaker 1: What's up with yid? I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 6: Let's up a child, but I know some straight goods
Speaker 6: and you know Baltimore, but people don't.
Speaker 4: You know, the wire was real.
Speaker 6: Let's let's let's keep let's keep it the buck. The
Speaker 6: wire was real, and the the climate in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: It's it's serious. It's very very serious.
Speaker 6: So there's gonna be it's gonna take thirty forty years
Speaker 6: for that alliance to pop off.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it rid? Can I keep it rid?
Speaker 6: You know how niggas is. If you're talking about black
Speaker 6: folks who are setting their ways, who have you know?
Speaker 6: We are slow to change. Black folks are very very
Speaker 6: slow to change. And unless you have a reason to change,
Speaker 6: a very straightforward reason to change, ain't.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be that much change.
Speaker 6: Big shout out to Baltimore, and I see that there's
Speaker 6: a there's a lot of people that I graduated from
Speaker 6: college with and people who are upperly mobile.
Speaker 1: They're doing incredible things.
Speaker 6: In Baltimore, and I'm watching my brothers and sisters in
Speaker 6: DC do the exact thing. So I'm like, it would
Speaker 6: be really cool if we had this cohesiveness because we're
Speaker 6: right there and we could.
Speaker 4: Be extremely powerful.
Speaker 1: But I'm a dreamer.
Speaker 6: I always look for the best in people and always,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm a no my state kind of guy.
Speaker 6: So you know, that's just that's just me talking here
Speaker 6: with you guys about how I feel about why we
Speaker 6: can't why you don't have a go go in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: When you say substance off you treatment? What is it
Speaker 1: for Heroina? For whatever you want?
Speaker 6: Whatever you on, codeine, whatever substance that you on right now,
Speaker 6: of course, everybody's the opioid crisis is the biggest thing
Speaker 6: that hit our country. So let me back up a
Speaker 6: bit more. Most I got a degree in psychology, but
Speaker 6: my first job was a social worker. I'm in social services.
Speaker 1: I come from.
Speaker 6: Helping brothers and sisters, right, That's what my parents instilled
Speaker 6: in me, and it you know, it just made sense
Speaker 6: to me. Comedy started paying the bills though, So comedy
Speaker 6: started paying the bills. I was like, boom, I gotta
Speaker 6: go do comedy, but always kept the philanthropic things moving.
Speaker 6: Then I watched my dad have a problem with substances
Speaker 6: back in the day. Then I watched my brother, who
Speaker 6: who is my biggest hero on the planet, come through recovery,
Speaker 6: like like he's the poster child.
Speaker 1: He was on meth.
Speaker 6: Don't nobody come off from me? You know he ain't
Speaker 6: coming back from meth right now. He got off meth
Speaker 6: and became a personal trainer. I'm sixty one years old.
Speaker 1: Wow bad? Can I let me lay this out for you.
Speaker 1: What most people don't know.
Speaker 6: My oldest brother came out the closet when I was
Speaker 6: eleven years old, So he started that persecution started with
Speaker 6: him early in his life, and.
Speaker 2: That was a different time coming out of the closset
Speaker 2: back heah, he body understood the way I say.
Speaker 3: It's more difficult the way I say it on stage.
Speaker 1: And the jokes is he the first gay person because
Speaker 1: it was we.
Speaker 4: Talking eighty one?
Speaker 1: You know, ain't I history month? Fact?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Brother person?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: He comes out and he stands on his truth, that
Speaker 6: this is who I am when nobody is staying with
Speaker 6: A eleven. I was eleven and he's seven years older
Speaker 6: than me, so he's eighteen. He's eighteen, and he stands
Speaker 6: on his truth and like, this is what it's gonna be.
Speaker 6: The hood already knew.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You know, it's one of them things
Speaker 1: the hood knew.
Speaker 4: I was like, y'all heard my brother gay. And they
Speaker 4: was like, nigga, you heard your brother game. We been
Speaker 4: new your brother was gay. You just ain't no, because
Speaker 4: that's my older brother. How would I know?
Speaker 1: Anyway, he stood on his truth.
Speaker 6: By nineteen eighty eight, he was HIV positive. He came
Speaker 6: through that, then substance abuse, prostate cancer, all of this stuff,
Speaker 6: and then one day he just was like, I'm just
Speaker 6: gonna be the greatest nigga on the play and just
Speaker 6: took to recovery like Official Water, took to the gym
Speaker 6: like Official Water. He has I'm sure he has his
Speaker 6: bad days, he has his trials and tribulations. He's my
Speaker 6: biggest hero.
Speaker 1: Warn if he came through all of that, all.
Speaker 6: Of it and right, and he's six foot so he's
Speaker 6: six foot four. We have different dads. We have different dads.
Speaker 6: My dad raised him though. When my dad met my mom,
Speaker 6: my brother was two. His father was a ball player.
Speaker 1: And he's six foot full. Uh, he's sixty one, six.
Speaker 4: Foot full, gorgeous, just gorgeous black man cut walking.
Speaker 1: Around now sixty one. He ain't never do an athletic
Speaker 1: thing in his life.
Speaker 6: Right now, he's sixty one and cut, and it's like
Speaker 6: living like the best life he can ever have.
Speaker 1: And thank y'all for letting me talk about him on
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: You know, the funny thing is that what you said
Speaker 2: is he was like, he's six foot four and then
Speaker 2: you look at you, old black We have different fam.
Speaker 6: We had differ day I saw myself in the the
Speaker 6: glass I can see me. I was like, nigga, you're
Speaker 6: not six foot nothing.
Speaker 1: He's like an HIV advocate to.
Speaker 6: He's a he's an advocate for being aware what he
Speaker 6: is an advocate for and this is how he put
Speaker 6: it down for me. He's an advocate for us knowing
Speaker 6: who we are, having safe practices and getting ahead in
Speaker 6: the world. As the younger brother, he never tried to
Speaker 6: talk to me about gay versus straight, this versus dad.
Speaker 1: What your opinion is.
Speaker 4: He never tried to make my opinion his opinion.
Speaker 1: Mind.
Speaker 6: He never tried to impose any of that ship on
Speaker 6: and for all the people who think, oh, you gave
Speaker 6: you go up around gay people, you're gonna be gave.
Speaker 1: Nah, man, it's not at all. You know how much do.
Speaker 6: You know how often my wife anyway? Is he never
Speaker 6: He never did any any of those things. And his
Speaker 6: thing was like, Hey, that's not y'all, that's me. That's
Speaker 6: what made me me. He never tried to push that
Speaker 6: out at gender. And neither, let me say this, neither
Speaker 6: did any of his friends. His friends came through our
Speaker 6: house Christmas, Thanksgiving. It was our house was the house
Speaker 6: to come to because my brother did have a supportive family.
Speaker 6: Those brothers who didn't have a supportive family, I would
Speaker 6: I ask.
Speaker 4: I was like, why are you over here every day?
Speaker 1: Every Christmas? He don't go see his mother and stuff.
Speaker 6: And then my brother's like his mother and father don't
Speaker 6: want to see him. He's been put out the house.
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that that went on in the gay community because my
Speaker 1: parents didn't, you know, they this is my brother, this
Speaker 1: is my nigga, you crazy, so so your knowing wasn't
Speaker 1: the knowing for most.
Speaker 6: That's what I found exactly over time, I found out
Speaker 6: that what happened in our house was not the norm.
Speaker 5: How did that change your perspective on how you even
Speaker 5: just approach your allyship?
Speaker 1: I guess in the world, it just.
Speaker 6: Made me more of an ally when I need to be,
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't go out waving the rainbow flag
Speaker 6: for my brother. He was like, that's corny. If you're
Speaker 6: not living that every day, that's corny to go out
Speaker 6: and wave the flag.
Speaker 1: Do what you do? B are you?
Speaker 6: First of all? Are you a halfway decent person in
Speaker 6: the world. That's what his biggest thing was, like, before
Speaker 6: you can even support anybody. What kind of person are
Speaker 6: you in here? You might be a raggedy motherfucker in
Speaker 6: the first place. We don't need your support, you a funk.
Speaker 6: We don't even want you around us, you know. Or
Speaker 6: if it's a performative thing, please don't come around. So
Speaker 6: that was always what he pushed for me, And you
Speaker 6: can understand why I'm so passionate about.
Speaker 1: This is my big brother, this is my older brinces.
Speaker 6: What I learned everything from he taught me to fight,
Speaker 6: taught me I got an overhand right now, I.
Speaker 4: Tell your ass, you're a stupid.
Speaker 3: You're a stupid, You're a stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian.
Speaker 5: Envy you got in the comedy? Yes, okay, and the
Speaker 5: comedy to radio or TV first.
Speaker 1: Comedy comedy led to uh radio No, comedy led to
Speaker 1: TV first.
Speaker 5: I was watching rap I was watching the doc last
Speaker 5: night and it was so funny. I'm watching the Doctor.
Speaker 5: They're texting me saying, Yo, we got your clip for them.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh shit, so I'm watching this, so.
Speaker 1: You ain't do this. I mean, I put it in motions. Okay.
Speaker 1: I told you. I saw you to be by you
Speaker 1: got to have you on. But I'm watching the doc
Speaker 1: and I saw that you called rap City every day.
Speaker 6: Listen, bro, I called rap City. I called BT once
Speaker 6: a week. I was watching the show every day like
Speaker 6: everybody else. Rap City, who is the most At the time,
Speaker 6: Dejo and Chris and Lez had just come on, Liz
Speaker 6: had just come on, and I'm watching every day now.
Speaker 1: I had Ricky Lake. I got on The Ricky Lake
Speaker 1: Show a year before.
Speaker 6: This was her second season, when she was still doing
Speaker 6: some Newsy Ship on the Ricky Lake Show.
Speaker 4: Can we cut?
Speaker 1: I can cut?
Speaker 6: Well, see, I'm sorry. I have another life now. I
Speaker 6: do the news in Washington, DC every day, so I
Speaker 6: have to watch my how I speak to.
Speaker 3: You in Okay, Well you can say whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: you want to say here.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. So I'm fucking doing comedy anyway.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing comedy. I'm going up to the to
Speaker 1: the pay phone.
Speaker 6: I do the Ricky Lake Show, and I was like,
Speaker 6: if I can get on Ricky Lay, So here's this
Speaker 6: is what got me really on it. So I do
Speaker 6: the Ricky Lake Show and then I go to the
Speaker 6: club on Thursday. Ricky Lay came on Wednesday. I go
Speaker 6: to the club Thursday. Nigga, I'm blown up.
Speaker 1: Everybody saw you on Ricky Lake.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hold up. You was on Ricky Lake yesterday?
Speaker 1: Why yes, I tell you, yeah, got it? And it
Speaker 1: was like you.
Speaker 6: I was just standing in here last week, in the
Speaker 6: same spot in this club, and you were standing right
Speaker 6: there and you look me in my face, lady, you ain't.
Speaker 1: I was nobody.
Speaker 4: I get on Ricky Lake. Oh lake Y like like drinks, You're.
Speaker 1: Gonna hang out with us after and I was like
Speaker 1: this how they treat you when you get on TV.
Speaker 1: I gotta get on there every day.
Speaker 6: I'm calling, right, So I was like, let me call
Speaker 6: BT bt is is I was living in. I was
Speaker 6: living on Capitol Hill at the time. BT is in Northeast,
Speaker 6: which is not too it was it wasn't too far
Speaker 6: from my house. I'm like, this is I'm close. I'm
Speaker 6: this close.
Speaker 1: So I started calling, like four war one and then
Speaker 1: can I have the director?
Speaker 6: And they finally give me Keith Patchell and I get
Speaker 6: his voicemail and when he didn't, I leave the message
Speaker 6: and he didn't call back.
Speaker 1: Let me call him again.
Speaker 6: You know, when you nineteen, you got that you don't
Speaker 6: have any clue how the industry works.
Speaker 1: Now you know that's the.
Speaker 4: Cornball and this this nigga keep calling my phone.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna get a job. But when you're young,
Speaker 1: you don't know that.
Speaker 6: So I just kept kept kept kept kept kept calling. Well,
Speaker 6: he never called me back. But a friend of mine,
Speaker 6: J Nice, who was in the episode last night. DJJ
Speaker 6: Nice was DJ and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, gonna be on Rap City tomorrow, said you gonna
Speaker 1: be on Rap City?
Speaker 6: Mo?
Speaker 4: Uh got rolle with you, like, yeah, sure, I said,
Speaker 4: where y'all shooting at?
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I said, tell him, they an shoot in my house.
Speaker 6: He's like, all right, cool, I'll tell him. He now,
Speaker 6: I hadn't told anybody. I was calling Rap City every week,
Speaker 6: look like goddamn food. So he called me back and said, Yo,
Speaker 6: we'll be at your house tomorrow.
Speaker 1: E Leven. I said, you're gonna be in my house
Speaker 1: tomorrow and he living to shoot Rap City.
Speaker 2: He said, yes, before you do that, I wasn't break
Speaker 2: it down because I thought, you know, when our dja
Speaker 2: Rap City.
Speaker 6: Of course, it was a lot of years later. There
Speaker 6: was a set, right, so before that there was it
Speaker 6: was no set. This is and in the dock there
Speaker 6: was a bunch. It's a dock, so they had to
Speaker 6: cut out a bunch of stuff, just like he got
Speaker 6: to edit this. Oh okay, cool, just push play. So
Speaker 6: so they come to my house and our Fonts, who
Speaker 6: was the producer at the time, our Fauns from the
Speaker 6: Color shows up. He got Chino x al with him. Wow,
Speaker 6: Chino x all. And at the time, this is before
Speaker 6: Eminem had dropped.
Speaker 7: And remember Gino x L was the King of the
Speaker 7: you know Marty shott Heimer, right, you know he was
Speaker 7: the king of of that type of shock uh.
Speaker 1: Metaphoric lyrics, battle rapperst lyricism. She don't was the king
Speaker 1: of that ship at the time. So he showed me.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, you ain't have a set, just
Speaker 3: set they shot.
Speaker 1: In my living room. You had sign nothing. I ain't
Speaker 1: none of that ship. This is the early days of
Speaker 1: the BETS.
Speaker 6: I had my own men and my me and my
Speaker 6: roommate was living on Capitol Head in my line brother
Speaker 6: and the the the the thing was when he said
Speaker 6: would be there tomorrow. I got to back up a
Speaker 6: little bit. When he said we'll be at your house tomorrow,
Speaker 6: I said, cool, I.
Speaker 1: Hung up the phone. I go in my room. I
Speaker 1: was like a god. They said, you do stuff like this,
Speaker 1: like but for real? Th god like BT coming.
Speaker 6: To my house, Like hold up, you don't for real man?
Speaker 6: You do this for me, man, I'll do whatever you
Speaker 6: asked me to do.
Speaker 2: No for real And for people listening in that don't know.
Speaker 2: B e T used to be out of DC, right,
Speaker 2: They weren't in New York.
Speaker 1: They used to be DC. It was out, it was
Speaker 1: out of it was out of DC.
Speaker 6: So sure enough, they show up the next day and
Speaker 6: Chino XL Bompa wounded. So I'm like, oh man, I'm
Speaker 6: you know, I'm my mind blowing. I'm a hip hop
Speaker 6: head on my mind whatever y'all need. I got beer
Speaker 6: in the refrigera. But we had no We had no furniture.
Speaker 6: I had a bomb. It was exposed bricks, wall, spiral, staircase,
Speaker 6: fire plays, none, no furniture.
Speaker 1: It was perfect for a rap city shoot. Refrigerator full
Speaker 1: of beer. Perfect.
Speaker 6: Then it was like a Drake video. This is back
Speaker 6: when you remember Drad the video. I was fresh out
Speaker 6: of Connage. I want my ship to look like yeah. So,
Speaker 6: but I was drinking forty is a genuine draft.
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing oe y New York Shire anyway.
Speaker 4: The producer says, hey, man, you a comedian.
Speaker 1: I said yeah.
Speaker 6: He said, I saw you. You open for Paul Mooney.
Speaker 6: Now I had snuck in Paul Mooney showing beg for
Speaker 6: five minutes. Like I used to go to everybody. I
Speaker 6: don't give a fuck who was coming to town. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go stage door. Can I get five minutes?
Speaker 1: This time? They always told me no.
Speaker 6: But this time when of the security knew me from
Speaker 6: the club, like, nah that nigga funny put him on,
Speaker 6: So I got on.
Speaker 1: They let me do that. Fast forward eight months later, Yo,
Speaker 1: you open for Paul Mooney And I was like, yay.
Speaker 6: He's like, man, you funny shit, but I didn't know
Speaker 6: your name. Blah blah blah blah blah. Hey we might
Speaker 6: be looking for ye. All he had to say is
Speaker 6: we might be looking I'm your guy.
Speaker 1: Whatever the fuck you looking for, I can do it.
Speaker 1: And he had me shoot a.
Speaker 6: Few things while I was standing there with Chino exling them,
Speaker 6: and then they gave me a couple of auditions and
Speaker 6: next thing you know, I was the I was co
Speaker 6: hosted with Big Legs.
Speaker 5: You know what I realized last night watching that doc
Speaker 5: man not realized it reminded me you and last had
Speaker 5: some of the greatest chemistry I've.
Speaker 1: Ever seen any duo have. Period. Did y'all know each
Speaker 1: other before that?
Speaker 6: Up?
Speaker 1: It goes back to my brother, how I was raised
Speaker 1: when you.
Speaker 6: First of all, I got a strong mother and I
Speaker 6: come from strong women. I got strong I had strong
Speaker 6: ass pops too, but I had strong, strong, strong women.
Speaker 6: Respecting women was just what you do at our house.
Speaker 6: There's no two ways about it. And it's a modern woman.
Speaker 6: You're not delegating them to any other thing, but as
Speaker 6: equal as they want to show up that day, that's
Speaker 6: who she is. I took that with me out in
Speaker 6: the world, so if you look, I always work with women,
Speaker 6: Me and lez Me and Takara. When I hosted Me
Speaker 6: and Men to car I had the game show, We
Speaker 6: had't take the Cake, Me and to Carra. Melissa fud
Speaker 6: came on Mad Sports. When I hosted a couple of times,
Speaker 6: it was great. I did more than radio Me and Sonny,
Speaker 6: me and poet me. Now I'm on the news every
Speaker 6: day and with Marina, I'm with Maureen. So I worked
Speaker 6: really well with women, specifically because of what I was
Speaker 6: taught about women, and then my brother taught me about
Speaker 6: respecting people period.
Speaker 1: The one of the narratives that's missed is it's a
Speaker 1: person in here.
Speaker 6: We like to think about the titties and the ass
Speaker 6: and how she's looking today, or the ladies like the
Speaker 6: lord he got, the chain, he got the or whatever's
Speaker 6: going to the physical attributes of a person, But it's
Speaker 6: a person in there. She got up this morning, had
Speaker 6: to do everything. She had to do to get out
Speaker 6: the door, to get to work, to be on time
Speaker 6: to shoot this show. She nervous too, She don't know everything, NIGGI.
Speaker 6: The last thing she need is me trying to throw
Speaker 6: her some dick.
Speaker 1: So what would you do if it was her brother?
Speaker 1: How you doing today? Good to see you, man. Let's
Speaker 1: get this in. And that's how I treat. That's how.
Speaker 6: That's what me and Liz were off the break and she,
Speaker 6: since she was already there, she knew more than I did,
Speaker 6: So I kind of gave her this big sister things
Speaker 6: sho show me this and show me that, and how
Speaker 6: does this work?
Speaker 1: And I don't know these hip hop guys? And oh
Speaker 1: who is that? Because you can you introduce me that
Speaker 1: type of ship? So it was never That's how that
Speaker 1: chemistry worked out. Now some of her friends, what's up
Speaker 1: with Joe? It was a different. Let me show you
Speaker 1: a little bro, dude. But it's crazy because y'all used
Speaker 1: to do radio, No, my brothers, not me. I like,
Speaker 1: for ch.
Speaker 5: Y'all did Rahap City radio. But I'm like, damn, nobody
Speaker 5: ever tapped Joe and Les to do a morning show.
Speaker 1: They that never happened. And I was doing on the radio.
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing radio. I worked with, I
Speaker 1: worked with.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Russ Paul, Shout out to Russ Paul,
Speaker 6: shout out to Frank Ski.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed.
Speaker 6: And then of course I had my own morning show
Speaker 6: for a good while. No nobody ever tapped us for
Speaker 6: a radio show.
Speaker 1: That's insane. Hold on, I feel like, you know you
Speaker 1: got all of these. You know, you got what you
Speaker 1: call it, the adult contemporary hip hop tea regular. This
Speaker 1: is we.
Speaker 5: We all twenty you know, we were all into twenty
Speaker 5: five to fifty four demo for sure. Like that's a
Speaker 5: no brainer to me. Yeah, hey, everybody's listening now.
Speaker 1: So why did you leave?
Speaker 3: What ended with Rahap City? Why did you leave rap City?
Speaker 1: So Stephen Hill came in, and you know this is
Speaker 1: Stephen Hill. All right, I'll tell you.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you both versions, the version from where I
Speaker 6: sit now in my fifties. Stephen Hill was a guy
Speaker 6: coming into bet who needed to make his thing work.
Speaker 1: He had been hired to make this thing work.
Speaker 6: That means people gonna get let go, sets are gonna
Speaker 6: get changed, systems are won't get tossed up. I was
Speaker 6: new to that though, I didn't know that that's how
Speaker 6: that worked. And we were a Beet family up until
Speaker 6: that point. Now from when it happened. Stephen Hill, me
Speaker 6: and Liz in his office and he says, so, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, we're gonna go in another direction.
Speaker 4: I was like, cool, what's the direction? Which which that way?
Speaker 1: That way? I'm go either way.
Speaker 4: You know I was raised, you know I got a
Speaker 4: gay brother.
Speaker 1: I'n go anywhere.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Way, I'm open, I'm open, I'm I'm in.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm an ally Which way you need us
Speaker 1: to go?
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 1: I had never heard that before.
Speaker 6: I had never heard were going in another direction for
Speaker 6: a time, I had never heard of that was right exactly.
Speaker 6: That was the first time I heard that, and that
Speaker 6: meant that you would be you, you would get in
Speaker 6: let go. From how I understood the industry at that time,
Speaker 6: I thought that was just the most fucked up move,
Speaker 6: Like he ain't shake my hand and like take us
Speaker 6: to lunch and be like, bro, we love you, but
Speaker 6: you know this is what it is.
Speaker 1: And then it was just a cold hat we're going
Speaker 1: in another direction. They don't show that in the doc either.
Speaker 5: They show we're moving to New York and then it's
Speaker 5: just like yeah, and you know, I decided Steven Hill
Speaker 5: was like I decided he needed to be one home
Speaker 5: host and I'm like, wait a minute, that can't be it.
Speaker 5: You just don't move big less and Joe like that
Speaker 5: to be more to the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6: It was, you know, and and to his credit, man,
Speaker 6: each of us sitting here could imagine if we had
Speaker 6: to be in exec moving into a network a story,
Speaker 6: a very storied, successful network.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make it.
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to come in and do some things
Speaker 6: a certain way to make some ship pop off. You
Speaker 6: can imagine some people got to get fired, some people
Speaker 6: got to get let go. The way that y'all were
Speaker 6: doing things is cool, but you're not. That's gonna keep
Speaker 6: you playing at this level. If you want me to
Speaker 6: get you to this level, it's gonna be like that.
Speaker 6: So the Stevens credit man, he came in and did
Speaker 6: what he had to do, and look at where I
Speaker 6: where BT went from there. It became such an iconic
Speaker 6: brand for everybody.
Speaker 5: But I was wondering, and I was I was thinking
Speaker 5: about the dog watching this last night. Did you and
Speaker 5: Les even get a chance to audition? For one O
Speaker 5: six because that was the other thing that happened. They
Speaker 5: launched one O six and kind of didn't even that
Speaker 5: would make that was.
Speaker 1: The brain of the So so what happened is rap
Speaker 1: City kept going, but the shiny jewel no network rap City.
Speaker 6: Uh and and what you'll you'll see more on that
Speaker 6: tonight on the part three of the Rap City Dot
Speaker 6: last night. We saw it last night in the Rap
Speaker 6: City Dot. What I didn't even know about one O
Speaker 6: six in Park until I was I got tapped to
Speaker 6: do Mad Sports.
Speaker 1: I was living here in the Tri State. I was
Speaker 1: living in Jersey and in Hackensack. Shoutouf the Hackensack.
Speaker 6: I lived there, lived lived there, I was shout off
Speaker 6: the hacken Sack. And I was coming into the city
Speaker 6: all the time. And so uh they changed the New
Speaker 6: York New York's and New Hub and all this other stuff,
Speaker 6: and I started doing Mad Sports. I started hosting that show.
Speaker 6: So I had to come up to the b t
Speaker 6: off Is one day and I see AJ. But I
Speaker 6: had known AJ from Howard when he he was a
Speaker 6: party promoter and a kid, you know, a dude around
Speaker 6: town in d C from you know, college scene.
Speaker 1: We would bump heads a lot. So I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the fuck you doing here? He's like yo on the
Speaker 1: new show. I was like, what's the show? He's like
Speaker 1: one O six in Park.
Speaker 4: I was like boom back, like, let me know if
Speaker 4: you need anything.
Speaker 1: You know, my nigg is good going, good to see you.
Speaker 1: I'll catch you. I'm doing mass sports.
Speaker 6: And that was that's how I found out about one
Speaker 6: on sixth in Park. We there was no audition for us,
Speaker 6: but at the time Les was living in LA. She
Speaker 6: had left and gone back to the West Coast. She
Speaker 6: was she left New York, was living on the West
Speaker 6: Coast and I was living up here, and so that
Speaker 6: the DC thing had kind of it was a different story,
Speaker 6: but the corporate headquarters were still in DC. All of
Speaker 6: the paperwork and everything was getting done, all the money
Speaker 6: in D.
Speaker 5: It just baffles my mind because when you got too
Speaker 5: talented people like yourselves, you would think that y'all would
Speaker 5: always be top of the mind.
Speaker 1: For BT, it's the game, the game.
Speaker 6: Come on, you've seen that. You've seen both of us,
Speaker 6: all of us seen the game is. And let me
Speaker 6: say this for the people who are listening. When you
Speaker 6: get into this industry, any media, music, entertainment and all
Speaker 6: those other things. Remember that you chose this game because
Speaker 6: the games got rules that you did not set in place.
Speaker 6: You got to learn how to roll with them rules
Speaker 6: and keep getting getting ahead or become a bitter old
Speaker 6: used to be I could have been type of motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: I was like, I them is the rules, keep it moving.
Speaker 6: I still go out every weekend and go get a
Speaker 6: bag telling jokes, you know, so when they making all
Speaker 6: these changes and things are going up and down, Okay,
Speaker 6: I'll see y'all on Monday, cause I'm in Talliassey this weekend,
Speaker 6: or you catch me, you know, I'll be in La
Speaker 6: this week and telling joke.
Speaker 1: So for me, a lot of that, a lot of
Speaker 1: that got to roll off my back. And I'm remembering
Speaker 1: it's the game, man, And clearly they cut all this
Speaker 1: out the dot because I know you sat down and
Speaker 1: told loaders, I'm.
Speaker 6: Told whatever they asked. I'm sure, I'm sure I did.
Speaker 6: I did whatever they asked. It's the documentary to to
Speaker 6: take twenty years of a of a show to trunk
Speaker 6: cat it into three hours.
Speaker 1: They had a huge tak.
Speaker 3: And then they and then then they after you guys,
Speaker 3: was Tiger and.
Speaker 6: Then Tiger, So Ticker was on with us, Ticker started
Speaker 6: doing news and then he became like it's three hosts,
Speaker 6: so it was me, Lez and Tiger, and then Steven
Speaker 6: came and was like, Okay, why don't we just keep
Speaker 6: Ticker And that's how that worked. Now, Tigger and I
Speaker 6: go back to Sunday night hip hop show on WPGC,
Speaker 6: and and that's what we Me and Tigger used to.
Speaker 1: Flow every Sunday night.
Speaker 6: So so like we would rap, we would we would
Speaker 6: each writer written and then do a freestyle live on
Speaker 6: the radio every Sunday night in DC. Shout out to
Speaker 6: DJ Flex, he was our DJ at the time, and
Speaker 6: so that's how I knew Tiger from.
Speaker 1: That's where we you know, became friends. So when he
Speaker 1: became when he came on the show, it was a
Speaker 1: no brainer. It was it was, you know, go ahead,
Speaker 1: do your thing, kill him, knock him dead. And so
Speaker 1: that's how he got in.
Speaker 5: You was always nicer than Ticket too, by the way,
Speaker 5: that's gonna throw that out there as a rapper, the ticket,
Speaker 5: you know, Swooter Ticket, like cause I was reminded of
Speaker 5: that last night too. But even when I was I'm
Speaker 5: on the dock, right, thank you sir. Yes, there's raps.
Speaker 5: I remember, like I'm sitting there. I'm like, I remember
Speaker 5: Joe Klain sitting there with Ray Corn. And that was
Speaker 5: the free start I made and maybe be like, God, damn,
Speaker 5: Joe Click can really rap?
Speaker 1: So that that rhyme? So that rhyme? Can I talk
Speaker 1: about that for so I put that rhyme out there.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta back up. Uh.
Speaker 6: I always was I could always rap, but I didn't
Speaker 6: know I could be a rapper, right. I could always
Speaker 6: rap though, like since since the first day I heard
Speaker 6: rappers are like we get on the bus. I could
Speaker 6: always come up with a couple of lines, and then
Speaker 6: as I got older, I could rap.
Speaker 4: But in d C.
Speaker 1: Being a rapper is not a thing.
Speaker 6: In the years I'm growing up and being a deep No,
Speaker 6: you got a few rappers shout off the stinky things
Speaker 6: out out to you know, a scorpio black Indian rest
Speaker 6: in peace. You know there's a there's a bunch of
Speaker 6: a couple more than I could could name. But it's
Speaker 6: not a popular thing. It's not like it is today,
Speaker 6: And so I kind of kept it to myself. Comedy
Speaker 6: started paying the bills.
Speaker 1: So I had that.
Speaker 6: But now I'm on Rap City and I'm I and
Speaker 6: I can't not write like like this phone is full
Speaker 6: of rhymes.
Speaker 1: Now, I still producing. I still spit because I have to.
Speaker 6: We know when it came up to Hey, Joe such
Speaker 6: and such as gonna freestyle, you wanna get in cipher?
Speaker 4: You motherfucking right, I'm about to get in cipher.
Speaker 1: You got that right? And then the producers are like,
Speaker 1: nigg you really, like, yeah, what is the next?
Speaker 6: Uh? So I was always waiting this. I was always
Speaker 6: writing for that reaction. And I remember that I was
Speaker 6: writing for that reaction. While I am a comedian and
Speaker 6: I take hip hop very very seriously. I never tried
Speaker 6: to be on the show saying.
Speaker 1: I'm a rapper. Let me stay in my place, because
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 6: To highlight cats who have record deals, cats who are
Speaker 6: moving and shaking in this industry that we love so much.
Speaker 1: So let them shine.
Speaker 6: But if you're gonna put on a beat, nigga, you
Speaker 6: better at least be better than me.
Speaker 1: You better deal.
Speaker 6: Yes, Reggie O, say shout out peace, rest in peace
Speaker 6: to combat. Jack took me around a couple of times.
Speaker 6: Big shout out to DJ Ski Ski was Ski was
Speaker 6: ski beats. Ski was giving me, Ski was giving me beats.
Speaker 6: Kid taught me how to make beats. There's I guess
Speaker 6: y'all haven't heard the story.
Speaker 1: Man. Y'all ain't heard this story. Man, I had the
Speaker 1: hard knock Life beat.
Speaker 6: Man. When I was out shopping that deal, trying to
Speaker 6: get a deal, Mark the forty five king in his
Speaker 6: high house, gave me the hard knock Life beat. I
Speaker 6: went home made a record, and I was trying to
Speaker 6: get my bread together so I could buy the beat
Speaker 6: cause you know that track.
Speaker 1: I was like, he gonna at least need twenty thirty
Speaker 1: racks for this thing. But I wasn't as serious as.
Speaker 6: Most people who If I would have known what that
Speaker 6: track was, I would have did everything.
Speaker 1: To get that paper together to go in there and
Speaker 1: make that record.
Speaker 3: So the story was Kick Capri, I thought, was it
Speaker 3: your song or he was playing the instrumental?
Speaker 1: So Kid was I was on tour, So I'm on
Speaker 1: tour on the deaf comedy jam tool. Okay.
Speaker 6: So that's how me and Kid became close, and that's
Speaker 6: how he started showing me and his manager was my
Speaker 6: manager at the time. Shout out to Christy Clifford and
Speaker 6: so Kid was playing it in first, I was like.
Speaker 1: Yo, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, that's my man Mark beat blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And when he said my man Mark, I don't know
Speaker 1: he talking about.
Speaker 6: Forty five King, I'm like, oh, I know the fuck
Speaker 6: Mark the forty five King is.
Speaker 1: So he said, you know, let's go over Mark house
Speaker 1: and listen to some tracks. He said he got some
Speaker 1: tracks for you.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going on.
Speaker 6: I'm still like a fan, so I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 6: over market he gave I was like, can I have
Speaker 6: that track too? He gave me a bunch of tracks,
Speaker 6: and he gave me that Hard Knocked Life.
Speaker 1: At his house.
Speaker 6: Me and Kid Kid took me over Mark's house and
Speaker 6: that's how I got my hands on it, went home.
Speaker 1: And wrote a hall knock Life song. My hard Knock Life.
Speaker 6: Song was about a kid growing up in a hood
Speaker 6: but he's he has disabilities and he's got he really
Speaker 6: got a hard knock life, and you know, from that perspective,
Speaker 6: coming from the social workshit and everything.
Speaker 1: And then I heard jay Z record.
Speaker 6: And I just deleted, Hey, Ski, can you can you
Speaker 6: lose those a that's make sure you lose those acts. Please, yes,
Speaker 6: lose all of those tapes that that's on, because we don't.
Speaker 6: Nobody never needs to hear that shit.
Speaker 1: But you're working on an album now, I heard.
Speaker 4: So we'll call it an album.
Speaker 6: I just continuously make music. I continue to make records
Speaker 6: and his his why. First of all, the movement is
Speaker 6: called new music for old niggas. Okay, period, this is
Speaker 6: our culture. And one of the things I hear people
Speaker 6: cry about is they always taking our culture.
Speaker 1: Oh, they always taking our culture? Well, why we keep
Speaker 1: giving it to them?
Speaker 6: If we are whatever the fuck age we are. If
Speaker 6: you are hip hop with then nigga, where's your record?
Speaker 6: I need to hear what you have to say at fifty?
Speaker 6: Can you tell us about credit?
Speaker 3: Nigga?
Speaker 1: Can you tell us about marriage?
Speaker 4: What about foreclosures?
Speaker 1: Can you put it in a round high cholesterol.
Speaker 4: High cholester route.
Speaker 6: But that's that's sort of the ideal, but not I'm
Speaker 6: not rhyming about no, right, I ain't rhyme about Colonna
Speaker 6: and shit like that. But there is a stance that
Speaker 6: we can take that is a bit more mature. The
Speaker 6: first record that I put out is a record called
Speaker 6: Gone g O n E. I saw this quote from that.
Speaker 6: There was a blog called a blog post, and it
Speaker 6: said that that black men are the white men of
Speaker 6: straight black men are the white men of the black community.
Speaker 1: Right. I was like, what.
Speaker 6: I know, proserable, let me go write this rhyme, let
Speaker 6: me go write this rhynd. So I wrote it from
Speaker 6: that perspective, and I'm coming from that perspective. I think
Speaker 6: that brothers should keep rapping, and brothers, it's cool to
Speaker 6: not have to rhyme about the block and your guns.
Speaker 6: You fifty, bro, and yeah, y'all, look, let me thank you.
Speaker 1: Let me say this. This is Joe Clais do I
Speaker 1: look at the This is Joe Claire saying it. Bro.
Speaker 6: You can spit your asshole, but you rhyming about them
Speaker 6: a k's and you got these grades in your bed.
Speaker 6: It's just doesn't it doesn't match up. It don't match up.
Speaker 6: If you're doing that much crime, my nigga, we you
Speaker 6: can't be a rapper fifty if you're doing that much crime.
Speaker 6: If you fifty and you got that ay all right here,
Speaker 6: you ain't got time to rap about shit you.
Speaker 1: Out, that's right. If you fifty or et forty for
Speaker 1: that thirty. For that matter, young guys who come out
Speaker 1: with all the gun talk makes sense stupid.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask too.
Speaker 2: You know, back then, you know when we seen people
Speaker 2: on TV for some reason, we automatically thought they was rich, right,
Speaker 2: be thought they were getting bread they talk.
Speaker 3: You see them on television. Do you remember how much
Speaker 3: you were making back then?
Speaker 6: Did anybody see the documentary when deborly said we were
Speaker 6: on a shoe string budget.
Speaker 1: You know that little thing at the end of the
Speaker 1: shoe string.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's the budget we was not the little plastic
Speaker 6: that's the budget we had at Rap City. So that's
Speaker 6: why I kept a radio job and comedy on the weekend.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell jokes, the the comedy bag is more
Speaker 6: money than the radio on the TV put together on
Speaker 6: the weekend. So on the weekend, I'm gonna make this
Speaker 6: money up like it's no problem. So uh that Rap City.
Speaker 6: When I do Rap Citio, or do television, do radio,
Speaker 6: those things are just adding to I'm already getting.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't making. I wasn't becoming wealthy, but I did.
Speaker 6: But hold up, let me say this part for any
Speaker 6: young person who seeson I fucked off a lot of money.
Speaker 6: I was young, getting checks, boy or I was having
Speaker 6: a ball with it, and I didn't have the wherewithal
Speaker 6: that we all have now. We all gain it over time.
Speaker 6: And you know, if I would have been smarter, I
Speaker 6: started buying houses earlier, I would have you know, started
Speaker 6: doing you know, savings early and all those other things.
Speaker 6: But I was making I was making more money than
Speaker 6: uh regular job nig I was making more money than
Speaker 6: some regular job bosses, than some execs, you know, because
Speaker 6: I'm adding up to three and then I'm picking up
Speaker 6: speaking engagements here on, maybe a quick endorsement over here.
Speaker 1: Or some some things of that nature.
Speaker 5: So I was, you know, it's interesting if you looked
Speaker 5: at it from that ReSpectacle And I used to watch Draft.
Speaker 4: But not millions.
Speaker 1: Let's go and put that out, not millions, not millions.
Speaker 5: But when I used to look at it, I never
Speaker 5: thought about the money. I was just like, I just
Speaker 5: wanted to be good. I'm like everybody on that show
Speaker 5: is good. Joe Claire is good, good, Digg is good.
Speaker 5: I want to be good.
Speaker 1: But but now you know, you got to worry about
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, yeah, the money comes when you're good.
Speaker 6: Money does come with you when you good, but the
Speaker 6: deal can be fucked up when you're good.
Speaker 2: So at a lot of times, you know, when you
Speaker 2: are good, that's usually when you get the issue deals right.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes before you can get with your worth,
Speaker 2: they let you go in and they find a new
Speaker 2: yet next young thing. And the reason I asked that
Speaker 2: is because you know, growing up the Queen's I would
Speaker 2: see at level all the time, and you would see
Speaker 2: ed Love.
Speaker 3: Driving the nice car and the nice chance.
Speaker 2: So you always like, wow, that's at level on television,
Speaker 2: even with Tigket like when I when I dj' in
Speaker 2: the basement, probably six seven times.
Speaker 3: But you know, back then a change.
Speaker 1: Was on MTV.
Speaker 3: Though was on MTV though I just a tiger, that
Speaker 3: one level, very level is on MTV. But even with Tigger,
Speaker 3: when I go to you would see his change changematically.
Speaker 1: You see the new fresh plans. He's getting it. He
Speaker 1: getting it.
Speaker 3: You know, always wanted to back then, but then it's
Speaker 3: getting it.
Speaker 1: But then I hurt.
Speaker 6: But then but then so then for me, I hit
Speaker 6: my I hit my twenties and then I realized them
Speaker 6: change don't mean ship nothing.
Speaker 1: This nigga could be at.
Speaker 6: Home broke as that might be all he got is
Speaker 6: the change. So I never if you see, this is
Speaker 6: the only jewelry I rot my wedding ring. My wife
Speaker 6: has taught me in to go replacing my Apple Watch
Speaker 6: with a watch watch like because as a realtor, I'm
Speaker 6: out as a realtor as well, I do real estate.
Speaker 6: When you show up sometimes it's how you show up
Speaker 6: parents appearances, you know, like the chain that change.
Speaker 4: So for grown people, you walking with that watch, like, oh.
Speaker 1: This guy's not fucking playing established. I prefer my Apple Watch.
Speaker 6: But because I'm in this meat, let me go in
Speaker 6: and put the to put this other brightling on or
Speaker 6: whatever the fuck she wants me to get and going in.
Speaker 1: And act like it's it's something else.
Speaker 6: I have a firm handshaking a nice watch, firm handshaking
Speaker 6: a nice watch, and then have your if you got
Speaker 6: your numbers together, you get you own the world.
Speaker 4: You own its real talking black people, black children need
Speaker 4: to know that.
Speaker 5: Another thing too, I was watching the doc Man, I've
Speaker 5: always loved the interview you did with Big.
Speaker 1: That's that's the iconic. And I knew that was Big.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I knew that was Big last interview. It
Speaker 1: was his last television interview. I think I think I
Speaker 1: think swave might have been his last radio. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was going, he went and did the radio. Now, did
Speaker 1: y'all shoot that in La? Shot in in La?
Speaker 3: That's what we was laying like in the park, right,
Speaker 3: So we really were on a sound stage.
Speaker 6: And what you can't see is the cameras are facing
Speaker 6: me and him is uh fences and everything behind us.
Speaker 6: We're on a lot of studio lot. Studio lots have
Speaker 6: is a lot is just a bunch of sound stage.
Speaker 6: When you hear people say I'm on a lot today,
Speaker 6: I'm on the paramount a lot of such and such
Speaker 6: slot we want in La has a bunch of lots
Speaker 6: and then the lots have sound stages. Sound stages have
Speaker 6: gates around them. And so we were on one stage
Speaker 6: on one lot and they were shooting the hypnotized video.
Speaker 6: The dance scenes were going on in there. So they
Speaker 6: took a break from that, sat us outside and uh,
Speaker 6: that's how that interview popped off the day before, but
Speaker 6: they didn't get to show in this documentary. The day
Speaker 6: before we were supposed to get that interview, we sat
Speaker 6: in the Santa Mona and Santa Monica in the bay.
Speaker 6: Uh not in the Marinadale ray in the in the
Speaker 6: in the bay, waiting to go out in a little
Speaker 6: dingy right, waiting to guard is chilly.
Speaker 1: Out there, you know, la get cold.
Speaker 6: It looks sunny, but niggas come we out there the
Speaker 6: boat where Biggie and Puffy all with the helicopters.
Speaker 1: This is you know.
Speaker 6: I could see it from the hypnotize video. From the
Speaker 6: hypnotized video, I could see it. We're supposed to go
Speaker 6: to the boat. But they got all these explosions and everything.
Speaker 6: So the director is like, too much power techniques.
Speaker 1: We can't do it. I don't feel safe doing an
Speaker 1: interview here. Can we do it another time? They say, okay,
Speaker 1: you'll do the interview tomorrow. So you do an interview
Speaker 1: on the boat. Was supposed to do the interview. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to sit on that yacht and do that interview.
Speaker 1: They say, no, we'll do the interview tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Say boom, no problem. I go to the comedy club.
Speaker 6: It's like cool, no problem. Take me to my hotel.
Speaker 6: Then I go to comedy club, Go tell jokes. Come
Speaker 6: back the next day.
Speaker 5: I always wondered were you concerned for your safety shooting
Speaker 5: out in LA at the time, because it was all
Speaker 5: the East coast, West coast beef and all of that
Speaker 5: just sit.
Speaker 6: Out the broad daylight with big I'm concerned for my
Speaker 6: safety every day.
Speaker 1: So my head is always from us on a swivel.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from We made.
Speaker 6: It through the crack earth, So I'm always when I
Speaker 6: came in here, I was in y'all green room, opened
Speaker 6: the door.
Speaker 4: Who is that?
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, they work here. So my head is always
Speaker 1: on a swivel.
Speaker 6: So I didn't feel any more, uh, concern, concern then
Speaker 6: I normally feel. When I go to l A, I
Speaker 6: just know, like doing rap City. The thing that I
Speaker 6: knew was when you go to somebody hood, when you
Speaker 6: go to a city, you abide by they rules. You
Speaker 6: shut your mouth, don't start, no ship, won't be no ship.
Speaker 6: You come to d C, you have just like you
Speaker 6: come to my city. Shut your mouth, come have a
Speaker 6: good goddamn time.
Speaker 1: We will have a ball.
Speaker 6: But if you come talking about my city this and
Speaker 6: my city that you oh, these niggas gonna let you
Speaker 6: know what, They're gonna leave you right where you was.
Speaker 6: So nah, I didn't have any extra concerns for my
Speaker 6: safety that day. We had plenty of security, an.
Speaker 2: I'm a Civilian's funny because I thought when you see
Speaker 2: the picture as a kid or you know, growing.
Speaker 3: Up, I always thought it was outside. I always wondered,
Speaker 3: like how it's outside. It's just it looked like a
Speaker 3: real park like they was in the hood.
Speaker 6: That's it's a it's a it's just a park some
Speaker 6: trees and stuff. But it's a sound stage like right there.
Speaker 6: And so then we do the interview.
Speaker 1: We we we bust. They stop down production for a
Speaker 1: second to do this rap city interview. What's my man's name?
Speaker 1: Was right there with me. Try to joe me out
Speaker 1: that day? Uh uh Latimer Chris, Yeah, Chris, Chris, Chris,
Speaker 1: what's up? Chris?
Speaker 3: Chris had some clothes a bit Chris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris. I need club Chris. African American College.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I need that steak.
Speaker 5: Chris.
Speaker 4: Y'all be y'all be cruyning on my school. Chris.
Speaker 3: Send him some Chris.
Speaker 1: So, Chris, he was on set.
Speaker 6: He was on set that day advising and doing some
Speaker 6: other things. He was advising and doing some other stuff.
Speaker 1: And so I meet Chris. We dip up and Chris start.
Speaker 6: You know, some people when they find out you a comedian,
Speaker 6: they want to point out that they a better comedian
Speaker 6: than you.
Speaker 1: And so Chris starts that ship.
Speaker 6: I'm like, Chris, I gotta do the BIGGI end if
Speaker 6: you I'm trying to get my quest. He's like, I'll
Speaker 6: be with Joe Toy and them nigga and look at
Speaker 6: your shoes. And I was like, Chris, I don't have
Speaker 6: time for this. And then he kept going, and then
Speaker 6: Joe Claire.
Speaker 1: Came out and Chris was like, okay, go ahead. Joe stopped.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, don't funk that stop ship.
Speaker 6: No not hein, don't stop now here, come Ben, ain't
Speaker 6: gonna stop now. Nigga unloosing that belt. I could see,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm just going going. Then I sit and
Speaker 6: I do the interview. It's a great day because Chris
Speaker 6: is sitting there laughing with us. Our producers are having
Speaker 6: a great time. Seasoned Junior Mafia right behind us. The
Speaker 6: dancing girls are over there.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 6: You know when you see dancing like I'm a holler
Speaker 6: as Shawn. After this is over, you know you're having
Speaker 6: a great day.
Speaker 1: Then Biggie said, you want to smoke something? That day
Speaker 1: just got better.
Speaker 6: Yes, I want to smoke something. You Biggie smalls if
Speaker 6: you wanna smoke, And I said, if you gonna. I'm
Speaker 6: not a smoker, but if you're gonna smoke with somebody,
Speaker 6: you're gonna smoke with Biggie. Smoke a couple of smoke,
Speaker 6: a couple of Al's Boom boom boom. They showed that
Speaker 6: in the doc a little bit so because I had
Speaker 6: to and that since it since it got postponed, I
Speaker 6: had to catch a red eye that night because I
Speaker 6: was going out on the Deaf Comedy Jam tour.
Speaker 1: This was the first night.
Speaker 6: The first night was on that Friday, so I had
Speaker 6: to fly home Wednesday after getting an interview, pack my bags.
Speaker 6: I five red eye, go home, wash clothes, pack my bag,
Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah blah. Get on the tour buses
Speaker 6: coming from Kid and pre Little Jersey coming down to DC,
Speaker 6: pick me up and then we drive to Dallas. We
Speaker 6: do the show in Dallas. The next night we go
Speaker 6: to Houston. Do the show in Houston. Had a ball
Speaker 6: and three thirty four o'clock in the morning, Kid called
Speaker 6: my phone was like, Yo, they say biggie guy shot.
Speaker 6: You know, it's four o'clock in the morning, you've been
Speaker 6: out drinking and shit like whatever, niggas tripping, you know,
Speaker 6: it's just some more hip hop here say bullshit.
Speaker 1: Then my girl called me. My girlfriend at the time
Speaker 1: called me. She was like, they say bigger guys shot.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh the fuck, that's two people long on.
Speaker 1: Let me turn on headline News. Y'all.
Speaker 6: Remember headline News to every half hour first story, rapper
Speaker 6: Christopher Wallace has been gunned down.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no fucking what.
Speaker 3: At this point, the interview wasn't out.
Speaker 6: The interviews now, I just it was this is Sunday morning.
Speaker 6: I just was dead Wednesday. This is Sunday morning at
Speaker 6: six in the morning. So nah, no interview out. They
Speaker 6: ain't get time to try. They still in La party.
Speaker 1: They ain't even get that, none of that.
Speaker 6: And just just those next couple of weeks with that
Speaker 6: days and weeks with Dad, it was just like a blur,
Speaker 6: just like a big blur.
Speaker 1: And I when I got to reflect on it, I realized.
Speaker 6: I was just numb to this ship because Tupac Hat
Speaker 6: just died and now Biggie got killed.
Speaker 1: I was like, we cannot be that dumb? Are we?
Speaker 1: Black folks were really not that stupid? Are we? Is
Speaker 1: this who we are? Tim has shown that Unfortunately, niggas
Speaker 1: going nigga niggas going, did you? Did you?
Speaker 6: I hate to say it, man, it's sad. It's sad
Speaker 6: and I and let me put this in context on
Speaker 6: y'all show. I'm a kid who had progressive parents. Both
Speaker 6: parents college educated, both parents have this beautiful ideal of
Speaker 6: what we can be as an African American community.
Speaker 1: What can happen. My pops was an attorney who worked
Speaker 1: for the Department of Education. My mother became a professor.
Speaker 1: She's a writer. Her books have gone all over the
Speaker 1: world and everything else. But my pops had another job
Speaker 1: at five o'clock. He was the weed man. That's a
Speaker 1: whole nother story. So he was an attorney, but they
Speaker 1: had this picture for who we could be.
Speaker 6: At that point, I was like, Nah, Pop, I don't
Speaker 6: think we're gonna make it in our lifetime. I don't
Speaker 6: think I'm gonna see it. I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 6: see it. We're gonna have to individually keep running towards
Speaker 6: the goal, but everybody coming together to run.
Speaker 1: Towards this goal.
Speaker 6: An nah that means the front runners is gonna have
Speaker 6: to stop, slow down and come back and get the
Speaker 6: niggas who who's not thinking about nothing and pull them
Speaker 6: along and how much time. You know how hard it
Speaker 6: is working in social services. I know how hard it
Speaker 6: is to pull somebody along. It's difficult. It is difficult
Speaker 6: to change your mindset, to change your heart, to change
Speaker 6: the way people see things.
Speaker 1: It's difficult. That shit, it hit me.
Speaker 6: It was one of those times Charlemagne and Envy where
Speaker 6: I really just I'm very us. I was like, man,
Speaker 6: I man A lot of that, so a lot of
Speaker 6: the like hanging out shit, I just did not want
Speaker 6: to do like it.
Speaker 1: It's watching us. Was a reflection of how bad we
Speaker 1: can get.
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily think you a bad guy, but I
Speaker 6: know that if this is in the air, this is
Speaker 6: our culture right now, Right now, our culture is two
Speaker 6: of our biggest have gotten killed, and homicides ain't slowing down.
Speaker 1: Every weekend. Shootings is still going on every weekend.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, the records are getting even
Speaker 6: more brazen and the gun talking everything else.
Speaker 4: After we these tragedies.
Speaker 6: So when I looked at my brothers, I was like, nah,
Speaker 6: we got to pull I got to hear what's coming
Speaker 6: out your mouth. I gotta watch your actions to actually
Speaker 6: feel like we back to this because I don't know
Speaker 6: what you're on. And then and I watched cats. I knew,
Speaker 6: you know, I watched man, I watched some of the
Speaker 6: most righteous dudes. Next thing I know, he he come
Speaker 6: with the chain and he gotta get his swag together.
Speaker 1: You you, you, you've been made since you was nineteen
Speaker 1: years and ten years old. You've been made. You've been
Speaker 1: a man. I know your family, I know what you
Speaker 1: staying on.
Speaker 6: You switching up because you think this is what the
Speaker 6: coach of dog fuck my head up and has colored
Speaker 6: how I see us.
Speaker 1: Since then to that nothing has changed your mind about it.
Speaker 6: I mean, so that those that happened and everybody can
Speaker 6: do their own narrative of how it impacted them, because
Speaker 6: I was sitting in the middle of it. And remember
Speaker 6: leading up to that, I sat in the middle of
Speaker 6: the East Coast West Coast thing. Every week, every day,
Speaker 6: every rapper's got something to say about the other coast.
Speaker 6: So I'm sitting there watching it I'm like, it was
Speaker 6: cool when the rappers were saying it, but then when
Speaker 6: the A and Ill saying it.
Speaker 1: And then when the other label guy saying it, and
Speaker 1: then when you know.
Speaker 6: It's popping up on the news, I was like, this
Speaker 6: is the corner is dumbest, this is fucking stupid. We
Speaker 6: first of all, we both fighting for our rights against
Speaker 6: the old presser in the first place, where you from
Speaker 6: ain't got shit to do it. But then to see
Speaker 6: the mindset, and that's that's how I understood how powerful.
Speaker 1: That's when the other part was how powerful media became for.
Speaker 6: Me at that time, because I was like watching grown
Speaker 6: motherfuckers that I knew changed their whole shit to be
Speaker 6: part of the shit.
Speaker 5: I was like, really, is that what made you start
Speaker 5: saying east coast, west coast, worldwide.
Speaker 1: I took it straight from the Lost Boys. Okay, shout
Speaker 1: out to mister Cheeks and everybody else, cause it took Yes,
Speaker 1: we need we we we we really need to we
Speaker 1: really need to do this.
Speaker 6: Big shout out to Mac Tin and Fat Joe because
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys remember.
Speaker 1: They did a movie Thinking and water Up something like.
Speaker 6: That, and then and Fat Joe realized and fat Joe
Speaker 6: used to be coming up to this show like man
Speaker 6: funk that I'm keeping the flame going on this East
Speaker 6: Coast West Coast ship. After that, I see Joe and
Speaker 6: he's like, yeah, nah, I found out them some cool
Speaker 6: nigga tho. He he didn't say nigga to me. You
Speaker 6: know everybody about how Joe the word. I'm just I'm
Speaker 6: being a comedian and he was like, nah, they cool.
Speaker 6: And then as you used to see mac ten and mactin.
Speaker 1: Like nah they cool, They're super cool.
Speaker 6: And then you found out it was it really wasn't
Speaker 6: the East Coast versus It was the media making it
Speaker 6: and it was Park against Biggie and they used to
Speaker 6: be best friends and now we're looking at really this
Speaker 6: came down to two best friends.
Speaker 1: Fell out. Now they have other influences, and that just
Speaker 1: got bigger and bigger and bigger out of control.
Speaker 6: Because if you look at it now, you don't do
Speaker 6: you think twice when you go to l A right,
Speaker 6: you go, you you mind hold up?
Speaker 1: You mind the streets? You mean you mind the.
Speaker 4: Streets the street?
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, but you don't feel like because you're
Speaker 6: an East Coast dude, it's on and popping on site.
Speaker 3: Now, right, I just see what happens in LA. That's
Speaker 3: the same way I feel want to go to Chicago.
Speaker 1: I lived.
Speaker 6: I lived in LA for a decade and you know,
Speaker 6: I never had I never had a problem in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6: I have great friends who are still there. And you know,
Speaker 6: and there's a difference. Let me put this out there.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between Hollywood and LA. And and my
Speaker 1: all my dudes was from LA.
Speaker 6: It was from and they started breaking down what hood
Speaker 6: they're from and where. Don't go over there, homie, Hey
Speaker 6: Joe Claire, look here, homie, you don't want to be.
Speaker 4: Over there after you get dark.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna be over there
Speaker 1: after get dark. And then and and I mind my business,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I had I love LA.
Speaker 1: I had such a ball. I miss it so much.
Speaker 1: I miss it so much. But my wife was not
Speaker 1: having it. Trust me, you ain't even got to say
Speaker 1: no more. I understand. I overstand what you said.
Speaker 6: My wife was like, she couldn't do it west side
Speaker 6: of Baltimore to go to l A. She was like,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna kill everybody out this monment. I was like, Okay, baby,
Speaker 6: let's go home.
Speaker 5: You know, we have conversations on the Breakfast Club that
Speaker 5: have ended up confrontational.
Speaker 1: Did y'all have any of those on Rap City that
Speaker 1: y'all y'all? I never, not one time, had any problems
Speaker 1: with any rappers.
Speaker 6: The only person who ever, the only person who ever
Speaker 6: like like tried to sum me, he sum me one time.
Speaker 6: It was my first This is my first live taping.
Speaker 6: We were at the Ritz Nightclub. This was Mark Bonds's club.
Speaker 6: You know, y'all know my boss s Mark Bonds Club
Speaker 6: back in the day. I'm in there and I'm interviewing
Speaker 6: Pete Rock and cl Smooth, my heroes. My I know
Speaker 6: they album back to backward and forward.
Speaker 1: I know everything.
Speaker 6: I know every syllable of that motherfucker album. So it's
Speaker 6: like five four three two go. I'm like a Sprap
Speaker 6: City Joe Clay here.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah blah BLAHH do.
Speaker 1: My thing, So what's up with you? Look with you
Speaker 1: in it?
Speaker 6: And then and then I don't get nothing from cl
Speaker 6: He's pretty So then the cameras cut off.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, son, you mad extra I Sai said,
Speaker 1: what he's like, Yo? You mad extra? What you mean
Speaker 1: he's like yo over the top, he like mad extra, Yo.
Speaker 1: Bring it down a little bit five four three two.
Speaker 4: All ain't Charlee Joe Claire here on't rap city.
Speaker 1: I got bigger. I don't know you. I love c
Speaker 1: L stupid.
Speaker 4: I don't know you.
Speaker 1: Now you turned back into Craig on Calvin or whatever
Speaker 1: C stand for. And this is my city. Were back
Speaker 1: in my hometown. We're great friends. Now we end now.
Speaker 6: I for me, I took it as a vet somebody
Speaker 6: who was in the industry showing me what he thought
Speaker 6: I should be. No skin off my you know, that's
Speaker 6: what you think I should be already know Joe clar
Speaker 6: And if it's nothing, I know joke.
Speaker 1: I know what Joe Clint do. And I stayed extra
Speaker 1: for five years. I stayed extra five years and.
Speaker 6: Week now I saw him. I saw him maybe a
Speaker 6: year later. All of how's everything good to see? How's
Speaker 6: the show going? Everything's groovy?
Speaker 1: I saw him.
Speaker 6: I want to say about three years ago. He came
Speaker 6: through the station when I was at WPGC. It's number love,
Speaker 6: number love. But he was the one person out of
Speaker 6: all of them that just had that thing. After that,
Speaker 6: it was all super cool. And then I can't say who.
Speaker 6: The rappers and there's this, I can name about six
Speaker 6: or seven of them. I guess they knew I was
Speaker 6: a social worker before whatever. Man they would do, they
Speaker 6: come in here, tell y'all'all that they problem.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It blew my mind when that shit started happening.
Speaker 6: I can't say who, but he's like, you know, when
Speaker 6: you get an image of him, he's hard core, straight
Speaker 6: hard core all day, every day, staying on it like
Speaker 6: a man.
Speaker 4: There's no nothing, there's no no fragility, no nothing over here,
Speaker 4: cameras cut off.
Speaker 6: Man, this nigga talk to me about problems with his wife.
Speaker 6: The you know, I all rest, I'm having some I.
Speaker 4: Need a mental day, Joe, And I was like, what
Speaker 4: the is going.
Speaker 6: For him?
Speaker 1: He's fine, he's fine. I see him all the time.
Speaker 1: He's fine, he's fine.
Speaker 4: But it was just like, wow that, you know.
Speaker 6: These these people that have these personas are real ass
Speaker 6: people who are going through a lot of ship in
Speaker 6: their life.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's that, you know.
Speaker 1: So thanks, so let me put that out there. I
Speaker 1: appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3: This conversation.
Speaker 6: Oh man, and we just ship. Let me get there's
Speaker 6: a few things I like to get on my chest.
Speaker 6: Make sure you follow. Make sure you follow me at
Speaker 6: Joe Claire on all social media platforms.
Speaker 1: If you are in the d m V, watch.
Speaker 6: Me every day at three o'clock on Fox five. It's
Speaker 6: called the d m V Zone. I am on news
Speaker 6: every day and it's you'll see it when you tune in.
Speaker 6: And other than that, just follow your boy, man, oh it,
Speaker 6: catch me if I all right. A lot of people
Speaker 6: did not know I was a comedian first, So please
Speaker 6: if I come to your town, make sure you come
Speaker 6: see my show.
Speaker 1: Cause, nigga, I'm boy, I'm Alaric. When your next shows, shit, uh,
Speaker 1: let me see. We just so, we just finished the
Speaker 1: big comedy festival in the d n V.
Speaker 6: Myself, Donelle, your boy, me Doneille Rollins, Pierre, Tony Woods,
Speaker 6: Tommy Davison and Red Grant killed it with ivon Orgy
Speaker 6: as our host.
Speaker 1: She's from around the way as well.
Speaker 6: I do my own shows monthly at a place at
Speaker 6: a spot called Bowie in Bowie, Maryland. So I don't
Speaker 6: know if you guys know about Bowie, Maryland. Bowie Maryland
Speaker 6: is the so Prince George's County storied history as the
Speaker 6: best Black blessed place for black folks meeting and household income,
Speaker 6: and Bowie is the highest median household.
Speaker 1: Income in Prince George's county.
Speaker 6: So we do a comedy show in Bowie, very uh
Speaker 6: intelligent well to do black crap. So I love going
Speaker 6: in there. We got heavy hitters coming through in every month.
Speaker 6: So just you can just check the schedule there and
Speaker 6: then let me see. I'll be at the I'll be
Speaker 6: at Atlanta dot com.
Speaker 4: That just go thank you.
Speaker 6: I'm thank you there and then and then back in
Speaker 6: d C and Baltimore. I got shows coming up and
Speaker 6: two all the time. I just am not with the
Speaker 6: big Guys tour.
Speaker 1: I'm in this.
Speaker 6: I'm still on Chitlin circuit. I'm still on Hennessy and Chicken.
Speaker 6: Certainly you come see me. It's gonna be a smaller
Speaker 6: venue blah blah blah. And then every now and again
Speaker 6: you get to see me with the big guy on
Speaker 6: a bigger stage. Shout out to some more for put
Speaker 6: me on tour. This past he had some more put
Speaker 6: me on tour, and I got to go back on
Speaker 6: the big stages because I don't live in New York,
Speaker 6: I don't live in l A. I'm in DC operating
Speaker 6: by myself, so I go get it. But I'm out
Speaker 6: telling jokes every weekend.
Speaker 1: There you have it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's Joe Claar, ladies, and make sure you watch
Speaker 3: the Rap City Dot Ye. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Speaker 3: wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club