Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Getias Charge Podcast.
Speaker 1: Prease anybody the Chargers podcast network. Mina me Stephen and
Speaker 1: I am the host as always in joining me, joining
Speaker 1: me is my guy Tyler. Tyler, what's the man? How
Speaker 1: are you doing to see me?
Speaker 2: I could be better, but I'm doing all right so far.
Speaker 2: And listen, man, I'm excited for the twelve game win
Speaker 2: streak the Chargers are about to go on. Am I right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Manifested, I love it. I'm doing pretty good. It
Speaker 1: was it was a pretty slow day at work. Again,
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, but a bunch of my
Speaker 1: coworkers came up to me like are you okay? Like,
Speaker 1: are you doing all right? I'm like, like, I'm an adult.
Speaker 1: I'm able to separate football from my personal life, Like
Speaker 1: you don't have to like keep things from me. Like
Speaker 1: We're good. So it was. It was a long day
Speaker 1: at work, but it was it was fun. I'm doing
Speaker 1: that right. Uh. Before we get started, I did want
Speaker 1: to give a quick shout out to Marianne Dough, who
Speaker 1: turns out is the fan that went viral last night
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football. I don't know how, but the
Speaker 1: pat McAfee guys were able to get a hold of
Speaker 1: her and had her on the show, and uh, listen, man,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna dive into the weeds here a little
Speaker 1: bit of what's going on with the chart with his
Speaker 1: Chargers team. You know, it's it is our role to
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, parcel out the negative and the
Speaker 1: positive and things like that. But I really respect fans
Speaker 1: like her who are just you know, gonna keep the
Speaker 1: faith and Chargers are making the playoffs no matter what.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, she deserves a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for the amount of time and energy and obviously you know,
Speaker 1: money she's putting into this team. And I loved her
Speaker 1: comment how she treats her son's games just like she
Speaker 1: treats the Charters games. So really cool interview. You know,
Speaker 1: the fact that a fan like that is able to
Speaker 1: get on the Pat mcavy show was really really cool.
Speaker 1: So hat tip to miss Marian dou Hopefully the Chargers
Speaker 1: can turn this thing around and hopefully you have some
Speaker 1: more positive viewing experiences down there the Chargers games from
Speaker 1: now on. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I loved her energy for all the good and all
Speaker 2: the bad, all the anxiety, all the cheering, you name
Speaker 2: it like you really saw all the emotions of being
Speaker 2: a Chargers fan. And of course you know NFL, ESPN, whoever,
Speaker 2: they're all taking off and running with it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: like the life of a Chargers fan is this. I
Speaker 2: mean the Chargers page, their Twitter page has her as
Speaker 2: their profile picture. Can you imagine, like you open the
Speaker 2: Internet one day and the Chargers have you as their
Speaker 2: profile picture. Please don't do that. You keep your millions
Speaker 2: of followers, you'll lose them all automatically. It's me But
Speaker 2: it's cool. It's really cool and cool for her to
Speaker 2: be able to do that, and just it is nice
Speaker 2: to have fans like that out there. I've seen already
Speaker 2: the Internet try to play sleuth and find up out
Speaker 2: if it's a planted fan or some fake fan or whatever.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't think anyone signs up
Speaker 2: to be a Chargers fan and fake it like that.
Speaker 2: I think I think you're all in at that point.
Speaker 2: I think you just you are all in, because I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone willingly signs up like that to be
Speaker 2: a fake Charger. You can't get through the heart attacks
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. I don't I never doubted for
Speaker 1: a second, that her emotions were genuine last night. You know,
Speaker 1: just that sheer anxiety and then joy and then also
Speaker 1: you know pain at the end of that game. You know,
Speaker 1: I never doubted for a second and that was genuine.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's the unfortunate part of the Internet.
Speaker 1: But you know, people are rallying around her today, you know,
Speaker 1: defending her honor so to speak, after she went on
Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show and clarified that she is in
Speaker 1: fact a real person and she is a real fan
Speaker 1: of this football team. So you love to see it.
Speaker 1: I think the people the world needs more Mariondez and
Speaker 1: I respect the things that she was saying today on
Speaker 1: the Pat mcavie Show and the way she was acting
Speaker 1: last night. So I wanted to give a quick shout
Speaker 1: out to her before we started because it's just was
Speaker 1: such a cool story. I think that she was able
Speaker 1: to do that today. All Right, we're going to dive
Speaker 1: into this Chargers and Cowboys loss, look ahead to the
Speaker 1: Chiefs game where the Chargers are at overall, we're going
Speaker 1: to it back to our segment of five truths today.
Speaker 1: This is the way that we have really decided that
Speaker 1: we like to evaluate this team on a weekly basis
Speaker 1: on this channel, so hopefully you guys are are with
Speaker 1: us in that regard. We have not had time to
Speaker 1: watch the All twenty two tape just yet, given the
Speaker 1: fact that this was a quick turnaround on Monday night,
Speaker 1: you know, I was able to rewatch the broadcast a
Speaker 1: little bit, and you know that that was definitely helpful.
Speaker 1: But we'll dive into some things, We'll have some data
Speaker 1: points as we always do, and excited to kind of
Speaker 1: flush this loss from our system by having this conversation today.
Speaker 2: That is definitely one way to put it. So Steven,
Speaker 2: let's flush away.
Speaker 1: Flush away. Yes, I love it all right before we
Speaker 1: get started. As always, Tyler and I are fans of
Speaker 1: the team just like you guys are. We've been granted
Speaker 1: this platform by the Chargers organization. But the opinions that
Speaker 1: we share on this show every single week are just
Speaker 1: that they are our opinions, not the opinions of the organization,
Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to project the honest truth
Speaker 1: of where this team is at, regardless of what is happening,
Speaker 1: because that is what we have built this brand on
Speaker 1: and we're excited to continue to do that. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, these are our opinions on
Speaker 1: the Chargers channel. They're not the Chargers opinions. So this
Speaker 1: is just me and Tyler. This is our authentic selves,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to dive in today. All right, Tyler,
Speaker 1: do you want to start with a positive truth or
Speaker 1: a negative truth from yesterday?
Speaker 2: No, Let's do a positive truth first. I want to
Speaker 2: Hamburger method this or whatever. We're start with maybe a
Speaker 2: positive and maybe if I forget the second part of the
Speaker 2: bun because we continue negative, that's fine. But let's start
Speaker 2: with one positive before we go negative nuclear here and
Speaker 2: talk about all the things that did go wrong. And
Speaker 2: I do want to start with this run defense, which
Speaker 2: has been dramatically improved, and last night was certainly no exception.
Speaker 2: You hold Tony Pollard to fifty excuse me, thirty carries? Nope? Hello,
Speaker 2: you hold Tony Pollard to thirty yards on fifteen carries,
Speaker 2: which was awesome for this team. And this is a
Speaker 2: very very good Cowboys offensive line, and the Chargers handled
Speaker 2: business and the whole I don't say the entire emphasis
Speaker 2: of the offseason was stopping the run, but it was
Speaker 2: probably the number one thing the Chargers wanted to do
Speaker 2: that was different from last season, and there are three
Speaker 2: big tests this year for the Chargers have been in
Speaker 2: my opinion, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs and then Tony Pollard
Speaker 2: behind this offensive line. And if you look at the
Speaker 2: Chargers the last few years when they've played these running backs,
Speaker 2: those three guys combined had sixty carries for three hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty seven yards and three touchdowns. It has not
Speaker 2: been good. When the Chargers previously played running backs like this,
Speaker 2: and there were many other games like that. So again,
Speaker 2: previously sixty carries, three hundred and fifty seven yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 2: which is about six yards per carry. This year, facing Henry,
Speaker 2: Jacobs and Pollard, they only have on fifty seven carries
Speaker 2: almost as many carries. They only have one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty eight yards, and they are averaging two point nine
Speaker 2: to five yards per carry. This Chargers defense, the front
Speaker 2: in particular, has been awesome all year, and I think
Speaker 2: that against the run they are significantly better than they
Speaker 2: ever were, and last night was no exception. Again, fifteen
Speaker 2: carries thirty yards for Tony Pollard. They've been really strong
Speaker 2: and I think that's part of the that's partly the
Speaker 2: interior defensive line. That's been guys like two leads twip
Speaker 2: below too, and it's been the two linebackers, I mean,
Speaker 2: Eric Kendricks, Kenneth Murray. They are affecting the game at
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: You know, it's no longer as much the weight and
Speaker 2: catch the running back wait for the play late to diagnose.
Speaker 2: It really feels like like this game in particular was
Speaker 2: their best game as a duo, not that there's been many,
Speaker 2: and they really played downhill and they are doing very
Speaker 2: very good stuff right now. So again, very very solid,
Speaker 2: complimentary football in the run game, between the defensive lineman,
Speaker 2: the edge rushers, the linebackers. It's looking so much better
Speaker 2: than again last night, they were very very strong in
Speaker 2: that regard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that you want you started this with
Speaker 1: this conversation because I think it's the right place to start.
Speaker 1: And there are certainly some things that the defense needs
Speaker 1: to clean up, and we can get into some of those.
Speaker 1: But you look at sheer counting SATs last year. The
Speaker 1: Chargers in twenty twenty two across the whole season were
Speaker 1: allowing one hundred and forty four yards per game, which
Speaker 1: is not great. It wasn't last but it was pretty
Speaker 1: close to it. This year, it's one hundred and two
Speaker 1: yards per game. It's tie right now. It's tied for
Speaker 1: thirteenth with the Tennessee Titans in terms of yard rushing
Speaker 1: yards allowed per game. And if you would have told
Speaker 1: me two months ago that the Chargers after six six
Speaker 1: weeks would be tied with the Tennessee Titans for yards
Speaker 1: per game allowed on the ground, I would have said
Speaker 1: you're crazy, because the Titans run defense is really freaking good,
Speaker 1: as we saw in Week two. So if you look
Speaker 1: at sheer counting stats, they've improved significantly. I mean, a
Speaker 1: forty yard per game difference is huge. That's a very
Speaker 1: drastic difference for this team. And like you mentioned, and
Speaker 1: you know, they have faced some some quality running backs,
Speaker 1: some quality offensive line, some staffs that want to run
Speaker 1: the football. Mike McCarthy famously part of ways with kel
Speaker 1: Moore because he wanted to run the football more often,
Speaker 1: and we saw a little bit of that of that
Speaker 1: come to fruition last night. You look at like EPA
Speaker 1: per play stats and you look at rushing success rate
Speaker 1: and they have improved pretty significantly in that regard as well.
Speaker 1: And we always talk about this, but you know, two
Speaker 1: years ago, Joshua Kelly came on our channel and interviewed
Speaker 1: with Argin, and Argin asked him, you know, like, what's
Speaker 1: the key statistic, Like if you're running back, like and
Speaker 1: you're building a resume, like, what's the first thing you're
Speaker 1: putting on there? And he mentioned yards after contact per attempt.
Speaker 1: And that's a key attribute that we have looked at
Speaker 1: in terms of like draft prospect analysis in terms of
Speaker 1: the way the Chargers are running the football. Like it
Speaker 1: really is such an important aspect because it really kind
Speaker 1: of paints the picture of what is your running back creating,
Speaker 1: what is your defense limiting, what is your offensive line creating.
Speaker 1: You know, if a running back has a lot of
Speaker 1: yards but his yards after contact is pretty low, that's
Speaker 1: an offensive line strength. You know, if he has a
Speaker 1: lot of yards, but you know his yards after contact
Speaker 1: per attempt is super high, you know that running back
Speaker 1: is creating a lot of value for your team and
Speaker 1: the Chargers when you look at what they have limited
Speaker 1: against these running backs, you look at josh Jacobs and
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and Derrick Henry. They've all held them under
Speaker 1: two yards per two yards after contact per attempt, and
Speaker 1: that's a very strong showing from this defense. I think
Speaker 1: they show they had a little bit more struggles against
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison, but for the most part, this defense has
Speaker 1: really really answered the bell when it comes to the
Speaker 1: run defense, and I think part of that is, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Tuley and Khalil Mack have really started to
Speaker 1: set the tone there. But I also want to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to Nick Williams here. Nick Williams is
Speaker 1: a veteran they signed late in the free agency cycle.
Speaker 1: Traditionally had not played a ton of nose tackle. He
Speaker 1: had played a lot of three technique four technique in
Speaker 1: a similar role to Austin Johnson in the past. But
Speaker 1: he is playing the nose for this Chargers run defense.
Speaker 1: In base defense situations, he's taken on, he's taken on
Speaker 1: double teams, he's doing all the dirty work, and he's
Speaker 1: allowing Sebastian, Joseph Day to Lee and Kalimack to be
Speaker 1: really really aggressive because he's taking all of that on
Speaker 1: by himself. And that's what the Chargers really needed to
Speaker 1: find this offseason this this year because Otido Bonia has
Speaker 1: his injury. I think he was really projecting to be
Speaker 1: that guy before the injury, and Nick Williams has has
Speaker 1: answered that call. So you don't. You don't improve your
Speaker 1: run defense by forty yards by just like solving one
Speaker 1: problem here and there. It's a collective thing. And right now,
Speaker 1: the Chargers run defense is really keeping them in games.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, they're like I said, we'll
Speaker 1: get into some of the things that they need to
Speaker 1: clean up on, but they're setting a tone early and
Speaker 1: we've seen it stick throughout various rushing attacks, various coaching staff,
Speaker 1: various running backs that are all high levels. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad you started this way. I think the run defense
Speaker 1: definitely deserves some props.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's allowing the Chargers to or at least
Speaker 2: prevent other teams from staying ahead of the six. You know,
Speaker 2: on third down, it's more third and long than anything else.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been issues on the back end, but
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't know where they're at right now,
Speaker 2: but I feel like the Chargers are generating more sacks
Speaker 2: than usual and it's relatively the same guys heck, they're
Speaker 2: down Joey Bosa at this point. But I feel like
Speaker 2: they're generating more sacks than usual because they're winning early.
Speaker 2: And you know, Mike McCarthy really wanted to establish the
Speaker 2: run last night, and we knew that was going into it,
Speaker 2: and it was I mean two yards, two yards, three yards,
Speaker 2: two yards, loss of one one yard. I mean there
Speaker 2: was nothing. Look at the last two games, I believe
Speaker 2: the long for both of these running backs, where Jacobs
Speaker 2: was likely nine yards and Pollard at was seven. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's really just they're limiting everything. They're keeping things really
Speaker 2: great in front of them, no big explosive plays which
Speaker 2: plagued them lastlast year. It is really impressive. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot to discuss, I think with this defense overall,
Speaker 2: both good and bad. But I really think the biggest
Speaker 2: surprise and the highlights so far for this defense in
Speaker 2: this game and really all year, has been the improvement
Speaker 2: in the run game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it. You the kind of putting a bow
Speaker 1: on this conversation for the run defense. I think one
Speaker 1: of the things that was a huge problem from them
Speaker 1: last year were explosive runs, and not just like ten
Speaker 1: yard plus runs, but like the back breaking you know,
Speaker 1: fifty yard touchdown against the Jaguars and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They've only allowed one run to go over twenty yards
Speaker 1: right now, and that's been a key, key thing for
Speaker 1: them because they're limiting the damage. And it is again
Speaker 1: all of these players deserve credit. You know, Dean Marlow
Speaker 1: has come in and made some crucial plays in run defense.
Speaker 1: He was the one who flew over the top against
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and the Tush push and allowed them to
Speaker 1: create that fourth down. And Nick Williams was the one
Speaker 1: who Steymy Tyler b to create that penetration. So it's
Speaker 1: a lot of two Lee, a lot of Kildo mag
Speaker 1: a lot of Smash and Joseph Jay getting the spot
Speaker 1: the splash plays. But these guys like Nick Williams and
Speaker 1: Dean Marlow and hopefully a Lohi Gilman when he comes back,
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit as well for the way
Speaker 1: that they have defended the run so far.
Speaker 2: You know, one last thing for me, because I don't
Speaker 2: think this is a particular truth, but just to add
Speaker 2: to how this interior has been playing, Zach Martin has
Speaker 2: only allowed four pressures three other times in the last
Speaker 2: five years. And then last night was the fourth time.
Speaker 2: And those three other times were Aaron Donald and the Rams,
Speaker 2: the Jets with an excellent defensive line, and then the
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. I mean, these are very good defensive lines.
Speaker 2: And that's the only time Zach Martin has allowed four
Speaker 2: pressures in the last five years, and the Chargers were
Speaker 2: the fourth one the last five years last night. That's
Speaker 2: how some of these guys are playing. Nick Williams, Morgan
Speaker 2: Fox and Bash and Joseph Day, etc. Again, Zach Martin
Speaker 2: like Hall of Famer right there, excellent football player, and
Speaker 2: the Chargers in this defensive line, they're the ones who
Speaker 2: gave him the next set of four pressures. That's impressive.
Speaker 1: That is impressive to me. Zach Martin is the best
Speaker 1: guard in football. So you know, Sebastian Joseph Date gets
Speaker 1: injured last night, he comes back, makes a really strong impact.
Speaker 1: Morgan Fox had the two sacks as well. So it's
Speaker 1: a unit that the defensive line at least is really
Speaker 1: playing well right now. And you know, I know that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of frustration otherwise about this defense, but
Speaker 1: you have to give a hat tip to the Chargers defense.
Speaker 1: And to your point, the Chargers are currently fourth in
Speaker 1: the league in sacks right now, they are tied with
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. They have one more sack than the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, who are fifth. Again, pretty good sack production.
Speaker 1: You know, the pressure percentage is not fourth. You know,
Speaker 1: the pressure percentage is kind of middle of the pack
Speaker 1: right now. But when given the opportunity, the Chargers have
Speaker 1: gotten home. Of course they have a six sack performance
Speaker 1: from Khalil Mack. But you know, like sacks matter, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to get home when you can't, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers have been doing that so far.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. When Khalil Mack got that seven
Speaker 2: sack on the next drive, I was like, okay, hang
Speaker 2: ups another five. It didn't happen, but it's okay. It
Speaker 2: doesn't quite work like that in the NFL. Stephen, what
Speaker 2: is your truth.
Speaker 1: For this game? Yeah? Yeah, it's a It would have
Speaker 1: been really funny if Kalola had another six sac performance
Speaker 1: or even like a three sack performance, would been kind
Speaker 1: of crazy, my truth. We talked a lot about him
Speaker 1: on the show on this Channel two. Lee two two
Speaker 1: continues to exceed expectations, and right now he's on pace
Speaker 1: for a historic rookie season. In the pro football focused era,
Speaker 1: which goes back to I think twenty eleven, there have
Speaker 1: only been two edge rushers, two rookie edge rushers, I
Speaker 1: should say, to surpass forty total pressures and twenty five
Speaker 1: total run stops Tyler. If you had to guess, who
Speaker 1: would those two players be. No, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of it right now and I am nothing. I got nothing.
Speaker 1: Who are they seeven I lost it? So twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, which is not a surprise, and twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack huh. In twenty fourteen as a rookie, Kilo
Speaker 1: Mack had forty two run stops for the Oakland Raiders,
Speaker 1: which is absurd. That's a crazy amount of run stops.
Speaker 1: But those are numbers that are really hard to come by.
Speaker 1: You know. Chase Young won Defensive Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: with forty six total pressures. Greg Russo in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: had thirty four total run stops, but he only had
Speaker 1: thirty pressures. You know, those numbers are really really difficult
Speaker 1: to come by. As it currently stands, tu Letoi Polo
Speaker 1: two is on pace to surpass both of those numbers
Speaker 1: by a pretty wide margin. You know, he has ten
Speaker 1: total run stops through five games, which means he's on
Speaker 1: pace for thirty four total run stops. And he has
Speaker 1: nineteen total pressures through five games, which means he's on
Speaker 1: pace for over fifty total pressures. Will Anderson for the
Speaker 1: Texans is also on pace to surpass those numbers, but
Speaker 1: he's played an extra game than Tooley has. So you
Speaker 1: look at the sheer impact that too Lee twy Polow
Speaker 1: two has made on this football team through five games,
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who could be on pace
Speaker 1: for a truly special season. So I'm sure some people
Speaker 1: are maybe a little bit sick of us talking about
Speaker 1: too Lee twy Polow two, But to put it into perspective,
Speaker 1: he is currently doing something that only Khalil Mack and
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa have done in their rookie seasons, And so
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep talking about too Lee because through five games,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is an overstatement. Tooley has been
Speaker 1: their best player on defense. He's making an impact on
Speaker 1: every single level possible. He's taking double teams away from Kalomac,
Speaker 1: He's defending the run at a high level. PFF only
Speaker 1: credited him with one run stop last night, but he
Speaker 1: was their highest graded run defender, and I think that
Speaker 1: number could have been as high as four. I love
Speaker 1: the way that he defends the run. He's so intentional
Speaker 1: about it. And he's also producing as a pass rush.
Speaker 1: He had five pressures last night after kind of getting
Speaker 1: shut down a little bit again taking double teams away
Speaker 1: from Klumac against the Raiders. So Tooley is incredible. Man.
Speaker 1: He just turned twenty one a few weeks ago. He's
Speaker 1: already producing a historic rookie season as an edge rusher.
Speaker 1: And I love to say this because it's so funny
Speaker 1: to me. He was the twelfth edge rusher taken in
Speaker 1: the draft, and a bunch of those guys are not
Speaker 1: producing nearly the level of him as a pass rusher
Speaker 1: or as a run defender. When you are doing things
Speaker 1: that Klimak nick Bosa and mostly about Will Anderson as well,
Speaker 1: how he stacks up there. But he's pretty good, man,
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. And the Chargers have really been very
Speaker 1: fortunate to get the production out of him that they
Speaker 1: have so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these guys are taken all in the top five,
Speaker 2: whereas Tuley's someone taking the second run. That's really the
Speaker 2: big difference here, and maybe even why the NFL hasn't
Speaker 2: quite caught on just yet. I feel like, in terms
Speaker 2: of media coverage, maybe with the defense or the Chargers
Speaker 2: or whatever, the fact that he's a second round pick
Speaker 2: not a whole lot of discussion. I think around too, Lee,
Speaker 2: even though he's putting up historic numbers, it feels like
Speaker 2: he's still underrated out there. It's so funny that we
Speaker 2: keep going on the show and saying, Okay, this will
Speaker 2: probably be the last time. You know, there's only so
Speaker 2: much more he can do. Like, yeah, sure he'll keep
Speaker 2: playing and playing well, but it's good for a rookie,
Speaker 2: or it's good for you know, a couple of games.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like you pointed out, we're talking about
Speaker 2: history making season here over the course the rest of
Speaker 2: the year, and this is a player who Look, the
Speaker 2: Chargers have been very inconsistent this year, and even Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert has been inconsistent. Even Rashaan Slater has been inconsistent
Speaker 2: this year. Whether you think Tuley's the best player or
Speaker 2: second best, third roast or whatever, He's been their most
Speaker 2: consistent player this year by far. And I mean, like
Speaker 2: down to down, we talk You talked about it against
Speaker 2: the pass, you talk about against the run. He had
Speaker 2: a pass break up unfortunately didn't get called or didn't
Speaker 2: count because it was so cool, it was free, it
Speaker 2: was it was the best pass breakup of the season.
Speaker 2: And it was Tutley playing edge. I thought it was
Speaker 2: a defensive back the way he popped that ball out.
Speaker 2: But no, it's it's Toutally just being awesome like he
Speaker 2: always does. So I'm expecting three interceptions next game, and
Speaker 2: I bet you'll give me four. He's been awesome, man, Like,
Speaker 2: I have no problem talking about him because win or lose,
Speaker 2: it's been such a bright spot in this season. He's
Speaker 2: been outstanding and with the way things are trending, like
Speaker 2: pound for pound, one of the best picks in Tellusco's history,
Speaker 2: you got to give him credit. Whether it's you know,
Speaker 2: Jay Rodgers, Giftsmith, Telesco, Staley, you named it, like, they've
Speaker 2: gotten everything around this guy perfectly and primed and poised
Speaker 2: to be certainly one of their starting ed rushers next season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's he doesn't even have like a real
Speaker 1: pass rush plan at this point in time. You know
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a full offseason in the NFL to
Speaker 1: truly dedicate and work on his craft, continue working with Rogers,
Speaker 1: continue working with Joey Bosen all these guys, and really
Speaker 1: like actually get to train as an NFL player. So
Speaker 1: Jamari talked about that. You know, I want to say
Speaker 1: in one of his press conferences leading into training camp
Speaker 1: this year, your first off season after you get drafted,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a mess because you train for
Speaker 1: the combine drills and then you have to move into
Speaker 1: a new city. And Darris Davis was talking about this
Speaker 1: week how he didn't even have furniture up until like
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago at his apartment because like
Speaker 1: he just wasn't sure what his role was going to
Speaker 1: be on the team and everything like that. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I would assume that Tuley had furniture because
Speaker 1: he's he's got to stay home with the team. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's such an underrated aspect of things
Speaker 1: that that's that second off season for you as a
Speaker 1: player is really where you can start to settle into
Speaker 1: things because you're not training for the combine, you're training
Speaker 1: for actual football stuff. You have all this experience under
Speaker 1: your belt, like we felt good about Tooley as his
Speaker 1: floor because he's he was such a good run defender,
Speaker 1: right but I mean, he's pace for over fifty total
Speaker 1: pressures and you know PFF doesn't split sacks like the
Speaker 1: other outlets do, but he has five sacks on PFF.
Speaker 1: Like he's just he's exceeding all expectations and he's performing
Speaker 1: at a truly historic level right now for a rookie
Speaker 1: edge defender, and the Chargers need every ounce of it
Speaker 1: and he's giving them it. And it's just been so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch him continue to impact the game
Speaker 1: in different ways. He dropped into the covers like five
Speaker 1: times and he was in good position every single time.
Speaker 1: So it's just he's incredible. Man. One of the most
Speaker 1: underrated storylines of the season so far because he's not
Speaker 1: a first round pick, because he plays on the Chargers like,
Speaker 1: he's putting up a ton of numbers right now, dominating
Speaker 1: football games and he just turned twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: So have to give too Lee love. I think we
Speaker 1: will be doing this every single week on this channel
Speaker 1: because he's just been balling out right now and you
Speaker 1: love to see it, all right, So.
Speaker 2: I guess that means that I get to fart in
Speaker 2: the elevator now and bring up some of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So let's go with this one. Especially in a loss,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to talk about what happened. And
Speaker 2: I think that the next truth here is that the
Speaker 2: Chargers lost a game by three points and two penalties
Speaker 2: directly related to the defense attributed to the defense allowed
Speaker 2: the Cowboys to get six points. And if you look
Speaker 2: at how the Chargers have been doing this season in
Speaker 2: their losses, granted, there's a lot that goes into these losses.
Speaker 2: It's not just the penalty is the reason that they lost.
Speaker 2: But they've lost three games this year by two points,
Speaker 2: three points, and three points, and they've had defensive penalties
Speaker 2: in those games directly lead to three points, seven points,
Speaker 2: and six points in those games, respectively. Unfortunately, this is
Speaker 2: costing them games in critical moments. Last night, drum and
Speaker 2: James had an unnecessary roughness penalty on first and twenty
Speaker 2: that moved the Cowboys to the seventeen with fourteen seconds
Speaker 2: left in the half. Of course, they get a field goal,
Speaker 2: although Mike McCarthy just wanted to take time done for
Speaker 2: whatever reason. You know, on third and eighteen, Dak that
Speaker 2: was strange. Yeah, that's a whole other conversation. On third
Speaker 2: and eighteen, Dak picks up nine yards on a scramble,
Speaker 2: but then there's two penalties on Michael Davis and John
Speaker 2: Taylor gives the Cowboys that first down and they get
Speaker 2: the go ahead field goal on that same drive. So
Speaker 2: you know, whatever's going on, you know discussion Brandon Stell,
Speaker 2: he said, having to teach and to educate these players,
Speaker 2: whatever's going on, it's not working. And the truth of
Speaker 2: the matter is, yes, those penalties contributed significantly is to
Speaker 2: the lost yesterday, But these penalties overall are going to
Speaker 2: keep the Chargers out of the postseason if they can't
Speaker 2: get them fixed. And unfortunately Derwin James needs to. And
Speaker 2: I feel bad because there's a certain style that he
Speaker 2: plays and a certain almost throwback way that this guy
Speaker 2: can play, especially you know, when he's hitting very hard,
Speaker 2: he's got to reel those things in. I mean, he
Speaker 2: is the defensive leader, you know, one of the highest
Speaker 2: paid players on the team, one of their best players.
Speaker 2: He's got to reel it in. And whether it's his
Speaker 2: fault or the NFL leading a certain way, or refs
Speaker 2: targeting him a bit more because they know he's a
Speaker 2: certain way he's got to rope those in. So unfortunately,
Speaker 2: the penalties did lead contribute significantly to a loss last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's he's a veteran player in this league,
Speaker 1: Like he's got to make an adjustment at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, it would be different for me if this
Speaker 1: was like one specific officiating crew that maybe call things
Speaker 1: a little tighter. Like we had heard leaning into this
Speaker 1: past week that this pass officiating crew, you know, calls
Speaker 1: offensive line penalties at a much higher rate than everybody else,
Speaker 1: Like that's a targeted attribute of that officiating crew. But
Speaker 1: the lowering of the shoulder, you know, the launch point
Speaker 1: of these receivers, of these tight ends, running backs, quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: everything is changing and it's been changing, and it's a
Speaker 1: real point of emphasis across the league. Every officiating crew
Speaker 1: is going to call those as penalties regardless of if
Speaker 1: you lower your shoulder, regardless of if you're trying to
Speaker 1: go for the other shoulder, if you make any contact
Speaker 1: with the head, it's going to be a penalty and
Speaker 1: you have to make an adjustment. The Chargers benefited from
Speaker 1: this as well. You know, justin Herbert steps up in
Speaker 1: the pocket and like he starts to slide, but before
Speaker 1: he starts to slide, jay Ron Curs is already actively
Speaker 1: attempting to tackle him, and because Justin Herbert is sliding,
Speaker 1: makes contact with Justin Herbert's head and it was a
Speaker 1: personal foul penalty. First round chargers on I think it
Speaker 1: was a second and long. It would have been a
Speaker 1: third down along, So it goes both ways. It's not
Speaker 1: just Irwin James. Everybody across the league is dealing with
Speaker 1: this kind of thing and you've got to make an adjustment.
Speaker 1: That's a you know, one play a game kind of thing.
Speaker 1: The defensive secondary penalties are I think are more concerning
Speaker 1: because those are technique penalties. And Brandon said he was
Speaker 1: asked about this today and here's what he said about
Speaker 1: these penalties holding the defense back. He said, quote capable
Speaker 1: of being an elite unit that needs to stop fouling.
Speaker 1: We're in premium coverages leverages, and our guys have to
Speaker 1: play clean football. I think that we're playing with the
Speaker 1: right variety. I think we're rushing the passer at a
Speaker 1: high level, which we just talked about. I think we're
Speaker 1: covering people up, taking away their targets. Last night, they
Speaker 1: had a couple of tough plays. Dak made a couple
Speaker 1: of loose plays with his legs. From an execution standpoint,
Speaker 1: our guys are executing the defense as well. What I'm
Speaker 1: seeing is a unit that is playing at a high
Speaker 1: level and that we would be feeling, i think convincingly
Speaker 1: positive about if we hadn't had the fouls. So they
Speaker 1: know that they need to improve, they know that they
Speaker 1: need to correct these things, and it's just a matter
Speaker 1: of constantly harping on these kind of techniques, these kind
Speaker 1: of situations so that these penalties can stop happening. Because
Speaker 1: you're right, He's right, it is holding the defense back,
Speaker 1: you know, And you don't necessarily take the penalties into
Speaker 1: consideration with the third down percentages. But right now their
Speaker 1: top ten and third down defense. If you just took
Speaker 1: away the penalties, that would stay that way. But once
Speaker 1: you the penalties in, they're in the low teams and
Speaker 1: that's the difference in a couple of these games. So
Speaker 1: it's been a frustrating part to watch, you know, And
Speaker 1: hopefully they're able to clean it up, because like you said,
Speaker 1: if they're not, it's gonna it's gonna keep preventing this
Speaker 1: defense from really ever reaching their ceiling right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we even saw I think a better version
Speaker 2: of Michael Davis than we had throughout this season. I
Speaker 2: think even just the yards allowed, they were the lowest
Speaker 2: of the year. I believe it in that being thirty
Speaker 2: nine yards. He had two pass breakups. Looked really good there,
Speaker 2: but then there's the penalty. It's like, ah, you know
Speaker 2: the penalty that I think him and John Taylor kind
Speaker 2: of split there. I believe Davis's has declined, but you know,
Speaker 2: unfortunately that just kind of Mars. The whole defensive performance
Speaker 2: at Mars is someone like Michael Davis and his you know,
Speaker 2: I think, relatively stronger showing than he has recently. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: I think that the front seven is playing at a
Speaker 2: really high level. I think the way they've played over
Speaker 2: the last few weeks is the best they've played in
Speaker 2: quite some time against I think better offensive lines or
Speaker 2: competition or whatever. And the secondary is just let them
Speaker 2: down in that regard. Unfortunately, does it get fixed, I
Speaker 2: don't know. We were hoping to see these penalties go
Speaker 2: away after the buy and look stuff is going to happen.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to lose my lid if the Chargers
Speaker 2: have one holding penalty in the secondary next game, like
Speaker 2: it will happen. It happens to a lot of players
Speaker 2: and teams. It's just unfortunately the situations in these moments. Again,
Speaker 2: we're looking at three losses where they lost because of
Speaker 2: points that were allowed by the defense because of penalties
Speaker 2: at unfortunate times, particularly in the secondary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fair one. And like we
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, this is a continuing problem and
Speaker 1: if it continues, I guess I've boreded that poorly. But
Speaker 1: you know what I meant, if it keeps happening, and
Speaker 1: this defense is going to continue to struggle to keep
Speaker 1: teams off the field, So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: My next truth here is that the charge offensive line
Speaker 1: is really struggling right now, and it's on the coaches
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make this unit reach their potential.
Speaker 1: I sit here and I watch these NFL games around
Speaker 1: the league, and there are teams that I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: would kill for a Rashawn Slater, Zion Johnson will clap,
Speaker 1: Jamario Sallier, Trey Pipkins kind of lineup. You know, we
Speaker 1: are watching some truly poor offensive line talent teams around
Speaker 1: the league. And I know that Corey Lindsley is incredibly valuable,
Speaker 1: He's so smart, one of the best centers in the league.
Speaker 1: But taking Corey Linsley out of this unit should not
Speaker 1: derail its pass protection the way that it has. And
Speaker 1: some of that is on the players, but also a
Speaker 1: lot of this, I think is on the coaches in
Speaker 1: the way that they have dialed up their protection plans.
Speaker 1: The Chargers offensive tackles are left on an island at
Speaker 1: basically the highest rate in the league outside of Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: which has Lane Johnson and Jordan Mailotta. You can make
Speaker 1: an argument that Jlane Johnson and Rashawn Slater is as
Speaker 1: good as Lane Johnson, although he's struggling with an ankle injury
Speaker 1: right now. But you're asking these players to just continually
Speaker 1: be perfect because if you're not, there's gonna be pressure,
Speaker 1: you know, in Justin Herbert's grill. And we saw that
Speaker 1: against the Raiders, we saw that last night against the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: And so it's on this Chargers coaching staff, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: to establish a more rhythmic protection plan so that this
Speaker 1: offensive line can really, you know, reach their ceiling, you know,
Speaker 1: play to their potential because right now it's a lot
Speaker 1: of traditional dropbacks. It's a lot of pressure on the
Speaker 1: offensive line to continue to be great. You know, if
Speaker 1: you watch that first drive again, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: pocket movement, it's a lot of screens, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, tight ends, chipping and things like that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a huge sample size, but you have to
Speaker 1: mix those things in at a higher level. I don't
Speaker 1: think we saw another screen in the second half. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of you know, deep vertical shots and
Speaker 1: things like that. And tell the very end when they
Speaker 1: have the fourth down play to Gerald. Ever, it was
Speaker 1: a lot of traditional dropbacks. And so this coaching staff
Speaker 1: I think has really fallen in love with the way
Speaker 1: that Keenan Allen and Joshua Palmer are playing. And a
Speaker 1: lot of it is the vertical route tree. And I
Speaker 1: understand that those guys are playing really, really well, but
Speaker 1: you're leaving the offensive line on an island a lot,
Speaker 1: and I think you got to mix in some of
Speaker 1: these other concepts that will, you know, make life easier
Speaker 1: on the offensive line so that they are not always
Speaker 1: left on an island with you know, Micah Parsons, the
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence, Max Crosby, all these guys just you know,
Speaker 1: chopping at the bit to get after Justin Herbert. So
Speaker 1: the offensive line did not play well last night. But
Speaker 1: I think also from a conceptual schematic standpoint, this charged
Speaker 1: coaching staff needs to do a better job of protecting
Speaker 1: the offensive line so that they can protect Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: at a higher level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this offensive line is certainly way too highly paid
Speaker 2: or drafted or talented. Are all three to be struggling
Speaker 2: like they are? And you could talk about past protection.
Speaker 2: But also the run game, which I thought was I
Speaker 2: was hoping. I think a lot of fans were hoping
Speaker 2: it was a well Austin Eckler. In game, they'd run
Speaker 2: like they did Austin Eckler. Not in game they didn't
Speaker 2: run as well. Austin Eckler returns, Hey, maybe the run
Speaker 2: game gets going again. And granted not that Austin Eckler
Speaker 2: was one hundred percent healthy, you know, certainly wasn't as
Speaker 2: healthy as he was in week one, but we were
Speaker 2: certainly hoping for more. I mean that Dolphin's front is
Speaker 2: no joke. It's not like Chub Phillips Wilkins. It's not
Speaker 2: like they're scrubs by any means. They're very, very talented.
Speaker 2: So I was hoping for more. But you look at
Speaker 2: the game last night. I mean, Austin Eckler had twenty
Speaker 2: seven rushing yards last night and only three of them
Speaker 2: were before contact. So there's not a whole lot Heckler
Speaker 2: could even do at that point. I think when he's
Speaker 2: maybe healthier in rhythm, they'll be better. But you can't
Speaker 2: rely on him to be you know, Breeze Hall at
Speaker 2: Iowa State and just getting destroyed behind the line of
Speaker 2: scrimmage and praying you get two yards out of it,
Speaker 2: which he was very good at. And you can't pray
Speaker 2: for Austin Eckler to keep doing this or saving you.
Speaker 2: And hopefully that the way they work the scheme where
Speaker 2: they call runs, et cetera, improves because they are the
Speaker 2: only team below thirty percent right now in rushing success rate.
Speaker 2: You know, you try to run three times and two
Speaker 2: of them are failures, only one is a success. Technically
Speaker 2: less than that again, I think it's it's it's twenty
Speaker 2: seven percent, I believe today. Oh even better, I think
Speaker 2: that's since week two. That's their their rushing success rate
Speaker 2: so not great. You know, Rashaun Slater with the injury,
Speaker 2: that kind of almost makes me feel better because he
Speaker 2: certainly struggled the last couple of weeks. But if it
Speaker 2: is because of an injury, I certainly understand and thank
Speaker 2: you for him for being out there and toughing it out.
Speaker 2: Same with Will Klapp, by the way, but Trey Pipkin's
Speaker 2: Rashaan Slater, they're struggling. That's the first time Rashawn Slater
Speaker 2: has allowed six pressures in his career. He's never allowed
Speaker 2: five pressures in his career, and last night was the
Speaker 2: first time he allowed six in his entire career. So
Speaker 2: they got to be better upfront, and a sort of
Speaker 2: segue into the next truth here, they need to be
Speaker 2: better upfront because Justin Herbert is the MVP of the
Speaker 2: team and they're oh and six or zero and five
Speaker 2: without him, and they don't go anywhere without him. But
Speaker 2: last night he very much so struggled, and the Chargers
Speaker 2: need to find ways to not necessarily just help him,
Speaker 2: but find other either easy buttons or things that they
Speaker 2: can do when they know Herbert just maybe does not
Speaker 2: have it that day. There are going to be games
Speaker 2: like against the Vikings, where Herbert could throw an interception
Speaker 2: and it's a touchdown. There are games where he's going
Speaker 2: to be basically perfect and their games as gonna be
Speaker 2: really good. And sometimes in the NFL you have games
Speaker 2: where you just don't have it that night. And Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert was off target on twenty two percent of his passes,
Speaker 2: which is the third worst of his career, and that's
Speaker 2: just off target throws that doesn't count, you know, missing
Speaker 2: a read, you know, missing Darius Davis, missing Josh Palmer
Speaker 2: because he's looking elsewhere. Throws elsewhere. Again, off target on
Speaker 2: twenty two percent of his passes, and it really looked
Speaker 2: and we talked about this after the game looked so crisp.
Speaker 2: On that first drive, you know, there was a rollout,
Speaker 2: there were some screens. A screen didn't work because of
Speaker 2: a penalty. They called another one and that one worked.
Speaker 2: Everything looked so much better. They had motion with keenan
Speaker 2: All and everything looks so good, and then everything kind
Speaker 2: of just devolved into a traditional drop back and they
Speaker 2: tried to get the run game going and it just
Speaker 2: was not working. There are going to be games where
Speaker 2: sometimes Justin Herbert just does not have it. Sometimes he
Speaker 2: can't throw for four touchdowns. Look, I mean the entire
Speaker 2: Sunday before this game was littered with quarterbacks who just
Speaker 2: weren't playing well. At these high paid, very good quarterbacks
Speaker 2: and they just didn't have it that game, you know,
Speaker 2: and Herbert that was his week as well. So they
Speaker 2: need to find a way to press easy buttons. But
Speaker 2: just protect the guy, you know, Calm down the clock
Speaker 2: a little bit, Calm down the rhythm of things, get
Speaker 2: a run game going, and find some balance to really
Speaker 2: help out Justin Herbert, who did not have a very
Speaker 2: good game, and I think it was one of the
Speaker 2: worst of his career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think certainly since
Speaker 1: his rookie season, you know, twenty twenty one, there weren't
Speaker 1: a lot of bad Justin Herbert moments. Last year you
Speaker 1: had the broken ribs. Like I don't really count the
Speaker 1: Seahawks game. I don't really count the Jaguars game from
Speaker 1: the regular season because the guy could barely move. But
Speaker 1: certainly since his rookie season, and you know, I think football,
Speaker 1: you know, at a philosophical level, is about finding your identity,
Speaker 1: finding your calling cards, and then establishing ways for you
Speaker 1: to win and move the football and take away the
Speaker 1: football in other ways around that. You know, whether you
Speaker 1: are a Super Bowl champion, whether you're the worst team
Speaker 1: in the league, you've got to have those attributes to you,
Speaker 1: you know, and we've seen other teams when their quarterback
Speaker 1: plays not so well. You know, have some takeaways, block
Speaker 1: a punt, you know, have a great kicker performance, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. And you know there are
Speaker 1: certain players who really supported justin. You know, Joshah Palmer
Speaker 1: could have had a huge game if not for some
Speaker 1: of these penalties. Keenan Allen was excellent yesterday. The defense,
Speaker 1: like we talked about, stopped the run they got after
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. But conceptually this play calling union I think
Speaker 1: was the worst of the season. And I think we
Speaker 1: have to talk about Clin Moore in an honest fashion
Speaker 1: because we've been very high on him and I think
Speaker 1: in general he's done a very good job. But you know,
Speaker 1: there was this article from The Athletic that Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: wanted to put up one hundred points yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: think maybe tried to do a little bit too much.
Speaker 1: And then when the offense is struggling, you know, instead
Speaker 1: of going to those easy buttons, instead of going to
Speaker 1: the to the rhythm drives, he was trying to go
Speaker 1: for the kill shot, make it all up in one
Speaker 1: play and kind of approach. That's kind of what it
Speaker 1: felt like to me watching it, And I understand that,
Speaker 1: you know, we see this all the time, and like
Speaker 1: the NBA, when teams get down big, they want to
Speaker 1: just start chucking up threes, and that's not always the case.
Speaker 1: You know, that's not always the best way to come
Speaker 1: back from these victories. So I expect Kellen Moore to
Speaker 1: bounce back from this. I expect Justin Herbert to bounce
Speaker 1: back from this. There's a lot of like narrative conversation
Speaker 1: about both of them today. I think both of them
Speaker 1: are too good at their jobs to let this kind
Speaker 1: of performance hinder their the rest of their season, because
Speaker 1: I think both of them will have very strong bounced
Speaker 1: back seasons after this performance. But you have to call
Speaker 1: it like it is. I think both of them really
Speaker 1: struggled against the Cowboys yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very difficult to express yourself in full
Speaker 2: when you do have to face the Cowboys defense and
Speaker 2: the defensive line that they had. We know it was
Speaker 2: going to be not easy sledding. You're going to be
Speaker 2: tough slaying for this offense, but yeah, so we'll see. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have been the second best defense in the
Speaker 2: league since Week two when they got Chris Jones back
Speaker 2: and inserted Drew Trank will More into the lineup, so
Speaker 2: it maybe gets easier in the sense that they don't
Speaker 2: have the same one two punch at edge rusher. But
Speaker 2: that defense of the chief is playing really really well
Speaker 2: right now, playing some really good football, So hopefully the
Speaker 2: Chargers can figure out and hopefully there's some familiarity with
Speaker 2: that that helps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Chiefs stopt the run at a really
Speaker 1: high level too, and it's a very similar approach to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, where like they want to stop the run,
Speaker 1: set up these third and long situations, and then Steve
Speaker 1: Spagmo Spagnola excuse me, as one of the most creative
Speaker 1: blitz callers in the league among defensive coordinators. So you know,
Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to have to stay ahead of
Speaker 1: the sticks as much as possible next week. And they
Speaker 1: know that, we've they've played against Steves Magnolo a dozen
Speaker 1: times at this point, Like they know what he's about.
Speaker 1: So you know, it is going to be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what Kilmore has has dialed up in what I
Speaker 1: think should be a bounce back performance from him. So
Speaker 1: all right, Tyler, let's let's put up on this today.
Speaker 1: I'll go first here. I think my game ball performance
Speaker 1: is going to be go to Joshua Palmer again, somebody
Speaker 1: that I think has been receiving a lot of unjustified
Speaker 1: criticism from the fan base, from certain parts of the
Speaker 1: fan base, I should say, but again four for sixty
Speaker 1: yesterday and again did not do his statline justice. I
Speaker 1: thought that there were three or four other opportunities where
Speaker 1: he made a great catch. He had the one handed
Speaker 1: catch on the sideline, the catch and run on the
Speaker 1: first drive, which should have resulted in a touchdown. You know,
Speaker 1: just was constantly, you know, providing an outlet for Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert last night, and I thought he was really, really solid,
Speaker 1: could have easily surpassed one hundred yards last night. Brandon
Speaker 1: said he was asked about Joshua Palmer today, and you know,
Speaker 1: they continue to really praise and hype up Josha Palmer
Speaker 1: because they love him. They're very excited about where Joshua
Speaker 1: Palmer is at and rightfully so after last night, I
Speaker 1: thought he had a great performance. So Joshua Palmer gets
Speaker 1: my game ball for tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah last night, Yeah, a bit of a surprise. I well,
Speaker 2: I was going to go with josh Palmer, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure if you were going to go with Palmers
Speaker 2: to the way we talked about two le glowingly. But
Speaker 2: I like it. I mean, he's again the expectations for
Speaker 2: a receiver. Maybe he can be very high. You're hoping
Speaker 2: for a buck fifty eight game. You gotta give me
Speaker 2: one hundred something a game, and sometimes you just got
Speaker 2: to sit there and realize that like sixty to eighty
Speaker 2: yards occasionally a plus game over over one hundred is
Speaker 2: really freaking good. I mean it's very difficult to play
Speaker 2: out there, and josh Palmer probably could have had one
Speaker 2: hundred yards last night if not for two plays that
Speaker 2: were called back and who knows what else if they
Speaker 2: had capitalized on maybe one more drive. I'm really solid performance,
Speaker 2: some really good catches, really good stuff after the catch.
Speaker 2: It seemed so very very strong showing even though it
Speaker 2: didn't show up in the stat sheet. So I like
Speaker 2: that one my game ball I'm going to have it
Speaker 2: split between Morgan Fox and Sebastian Joseph Day, which maybe
Speaker 2: is unfair, but again, Zach Martin the past three seasons
Speaker 2: have only give up or five skuss excuse me, has
Speaker 2: given up only four pressures three times, and again agains
Speaker 2: Sabastian Joseph Day and Morgan Fox. It was his fourth.
Speaker 2: Really really impressive. Both of them only played fifty two
Speaker 2: snaps on the day. Morgan Fox's snaps are a bit
Speaker 2: down on the season, which is a bit surprise compared
Speaker 2: to how much he was playing last year. And then
Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day got hurt and missed a lot of
Speaker 2: the game. So between them they only played fifty two snaps,
Speaker 2: but they had five pressures, three sacks, and five run stops,
Speaker 2: so basically every five plays you're getting a high end
Speaker 2: play from one of those guys. Really really impressive. The
Speaker 2: way that they controlled the line of scrimmage was excellent,
Speaker 2: The way they rushed Dak was excellent. That's a very
Speaker 2: very good interior of the Cowboys. The whole line's very good.
Speaker 2: That's a very very good interior. And Sebastian Joseph Day
Speaker 2: and Morgan Fox really stepped up in this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's a good one.
Speaker 1: All right. We were gonna talk a little bit more
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs game, but I think we're running the
Speaker 1: short on time today, so we'll have you guys cover
Speaker 1: from a Chiefs preview on our own channel. Make sure
Speaker 1: and go check that out when we go do our
Speaker 1: deep dive which we published on Thursday. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: going to do it for us today. Make sure like
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad to have him here with me on
Speaker 1: this ride. So I appreciate Greg Kim as well for producing,
Speaker 1: and of course the charges for allowing us to have
Speaker 1: this platform. That's going to do it for us today. Guys.
Speaker 1: Well see you next time. As always, bult Up