Speaker 1: Welcome back to us all hell wells listeners, Well Achy well,
Speaker 1: Achie waited if it is us listeners, we got some
Speaker 1: things to talk about. Is this going to be the
Speaker 1: year of the Kuminga in the bay. We've got more
Speaker 1: wemby madness, We've got people that are becoming the new
Speaker 1: faces of bad business decisions. We will get into all
Speaker 1: that bus talking about Booker, Katie and Beale and how
Speaker 1: potent back connection is over in Phoenix. We're doing that
Speaker 1: all with podcaster and host Dragonfly Jones on today's episode.
Speaker 2: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Drack O'Brien and this is my.
Speaker 3: Episode eighty three.
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Speaker 2: Honest, Dragonfly Jones and co hosts of Jenkins and Jones
Speaker 2: and the volume. Welcome, wel welcome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as always, How.
Speaker 2: Are you enjoying the preseason bit drips and drafts?
Speaker 4: Are you? Are you?
Speaker 2: First of all, are you a bit it's just preseason?
Speaker 4: Or are you up? Okay?
Speaker 5: I see what's goody, calm down and the preseason.
Speaker 6: I will never be an everyone calm down guy, because
Speaker 6: I'm a fair believer in just having fun with you.
Speaker 6: And we haven't seen basketball in five months, Like why
Speaker 6: are you telling people to calm down? And the stuff
Speaker 6: that we're and the stuff that we're seeing, like especially
Speaker 6: from Wimby, it's been ridiculous.
Speaker 4: This dude is an alien. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's truly really wild. Like every game feels like
Speaker 3: a feast of highlights. It's just like I get more
Speaker 3: yes clips that I just can't stop watching, like a
Speaker 3: season's worth where I'm just like every game, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I've never seen that before five times at least.
Speaker 1: I'm still watching that clip from last week when he
Speaker 1: just did that quick like in and out and then
Speaker 1: just pulled up and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, what, Yes, he's going to be doing that
Speaker 3: every game apparently, because he did that again in this Will.
Speaker 2: It ever end?
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll get to that later on because we
Speaker 1: got we got plenty of calls.
Speaker 5: We backload, have to keep listening.
Speaker 2: That wasn't a moose boosh for you. Now we'll move
Speaker 2: on to.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be storporating so much French in honor of
Speaker 3: our new overlord.
Speaker 2: We we and consider us You're a chef.
Speaker 4: You can.
Speaker 6: We we we we bun bonds and all that good stuff.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: All that good stuff'll seem as we will call him
Speaker 1: from Street Fighter. But anyway, Uh, talking first about Phoenix, Jack,
Speaker 1: you you actually got to see.
Speaker 5: A little bit of Phoenix. Been on the ground, miles, Miles.
Speaker 3: I'm reporting from having been in Phoenix two weeks ago. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's hot down there. Kevin Durant is on the team.
Speaker 3: He's very tall, Devin Booker is good at basketball, and
Speaker 3: bial is also on on the team.
Speaker 1: I can report those are a lot of exclusives you
Speaker 1: had for us, and I'm really look and that's why
Speaker 1: people come here because we're giving that unadulterated truth. But
Speaker 1: a lot of talk is being made of these three
Speaker 1: preseason games where Katie Book and Bril Brial a Book
Speaker 1: and Beal. They scored seventy seventy six and seventy six
Speaker 1: first half points.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the games that they play, Yeah.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 1: I think they like the last game they were they
Speaker 1: were scoring sixty four percent of the first half points.
Speaker 2: Cool, cool, cool? What are we saying here? A lot
Speaker 2: of people are like, what about defense?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that does that matter?
Speaker 3: I like that voice for the idiots for the GIA defense.
Speaker 3: It's called glass Cannon. For all my video game players. Okay,
Speaker 3: you can do wild damn, but it cannot take any
Speaker 3: It cannot take any any.
Speaker 5: I think a couple of things are going on.
Speaker 3: One, I think that this was the big blockbuster story,
Speaker 3: like five big blockbuster stories ago, So this is it's
Speaker 3: like a Hollywood movie that gets released in February, and
Speaker 3: by the time the oscars roll around, it's just like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, we're tired of that, Like we wait,
Speaker 3: that movie came out this year, you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: that was just this just feels so long ago that
Speaker 3: like now people are refinding out that this team has
Speaker 3: these three scores. I also think like the way that
Speaker 3: things ended with the Nets, probably like when the Nets
Speaker 3: had all three of their perimeter scores on the court,
Speaker 3: it was incredible, Like it was amazing to watch and
Speaker 3: they just couldn't stay healthy and together. So like now
Speaker 3: that they're this is the same group of three, I
Speaker 3: think they're a little bit better, to be honest, like
Speaker 3: in terms of score ring and we're I don't know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna see, but like what when kd is is
Speaker 3: with uh two other great perimeter scores, like they they're
Speaker 3: really like you you're seeing things. You're seeing offensive dominance,
Speaker 3: the legs of which we haven't seen a lot of
Speaker 3: in the history.
Speaker 5: Of the league.
Speaker 3: And I could see it working out pretty well as
Speaker 3: long as everybody stays healthy.
Speaker 2: Where are you at with this dragonfly?
Speaker 6: You know, I think that what about defense? Let me
Speaker 6: put them out? What about defense? Voice for that one,
Speaker 6: I think that I think those are avalcancerians. And it
Speaker 6: goes back to you know, Jack's point of how you know,
Speaker 6: we saw this experiment, you know, fall apart in New Jersey,
Speaker 6: in New Jersey, in Brooklyn for the for those very reasons.
Speaker 6: But you know the thing is, I think that's something
Speaker 6: that is being lost in that is we last postseason
Speaker 6: we saw that Book. You know, he can be a
Speaker 6: dog on defense if he wants to, and he might
Speaker 6: take that leap this season hopefully. And you know the
Speaker 6: thing with with Bill, they're like, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 6: of course, you know, this is a guy who's been
Speaker 6: a thirty point scorer. I think like the best thing
Speaker 6: that Bill brings to that team is of course his offense.
Speaker 6: And you can stagger things. So you have Book and
Speaker 6: Bill on the floor and you can get a very
Speaker 6: well rested KD out there as well, right, because Kd's
Speaker 6: a dude who has said that he wants to die
Speaker 6: out there, Like that was one of the gripers we
Speaker 6: had with with how Nash us them. You're playing this dude,
Speaker 6: you know, forty four minutes a game, back to back
Speaker 6: games in the playoffs, Like that's just sustainable, you know,
Speaker 6: for you know, a thirty five, thirty six year old dude.
Speaker 6: And but yeah, yeah, I'm I'm still on the I'm
Speaker 6: still on the side of you know, We've seen this
Speaker 6: experiment not work before. I'm still a bit skeptical. Of
Speaker 6: course they can light it up, but you know, I
Speaker 6: think they what about defense? Gud might have a pointed.
Speaker 3: Wait, so is your take on what happened in Brooklyn
Speaker 3: that the defense was the problem because it seemed to
Speaker 3: me like it was just they and you're never had
Speaker 3: all three of them healthy, and when they did have
Speaker 3: all three of them healthy, it was that they.
Speaker 5: Were pretty weren't they? Or am I misremembered how many.
Speaker 4: Games did they played together?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, something, But if you put.
Speaker 3: KD with like people who can stay on the court,
Speaker 3: I don't know, then maybe we got something here.
Speaker 5: Maybe we got something. I'm just saying the other thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to say, go ahead, you go No,
Speaker 6: I was gonna say I think that. You know, of
Speaker 6: course we know that Book and KD can light it up.
Speaker 6: We can look back at the Denver series that they
Speaker 6: just had, you know, Denver Phoenix where Book and KD
Speaker 6: had those phenomenal games back to back where they both
Speaker 6: just went crazy. And then then then you know, Denver
Speaker 6: ran off two straight wins win when the series was
Speaker 6: noted up to to blew them out by what twenty
Speaker 6: five in game six? Like, it comes to point where,
Speaker 6: especially in playoff basketball, like you know, of course the
Speaker 6: objective basketball one on ones put the ball in the hoop.
Speaker 6: But you know, when you're going up against a team
Speaker 6: that is locked in on defense, you know, they usually
Speaker 6: grind it out, and the teams that just light it
Speaker 6: up and have no defense, you know, usually on the
Speaker 6: losing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what are the chances they faced that Denver
Speaker 3: team again, Like, oh oh, they're still together.
Speaker 5: That's that's what they're going to have to go through,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 4: Did you see that.
Speaker 1: Clip of Jamal Murray, Like Jokic is on his phone
Speaker 1: in practice and he's like, what's going on Have you
Speaker 1: seen this the's time about he was scout I just
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 5: Play scouting horses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just such a just so jokersh I love.
Speaker 4: It scouting horses.
Speaker 5: No, scouting horses. He's like, let me scouting horses right now. Ten.
Speaker 3: Well, any other players looking at their phone like that
Speaker 3: on the bench, like fans would be in an uproar,
Speaker 3: but with him, they're like. The thing that's cool about
Speaker 3: him is he's the best player in the league and
Speaker 3: he hates basketball.
Speaker 4: Like all of his body.
Speaker 3: Language suggests that he doesn't, like I doesn't want to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 6: He was he was in love looking at his phone. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he had his hand rested in space rested episode. He
Speaker 6: was in love with that Clydeslo whatever he was looking at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like that Simpsons episode where Lisa is
Speaker 1: calling the Corey.
Speaker 4: Hotline and yeah, wow, I.
Speaker 3: Like the idea that it's just the bud Wiser Clydesdale commercial.
Speaker 5: He's just like, damn those things.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 3: I will also just put in a word, you know,
Speaker 3: I have a friendship with Frank Vogel. He's a family friend,
Speaker 3: so I don't want to be in the tank for him.
Speaker 3: But he's a pretty good defensive coach, and I do
Speaker 3: feel like defense can be kind of coached up a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 4: You're not.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be the number one
Speaker 3: defensive raiding in the league. But you know, he's had
Speaker 3: a lot of teams that you know, when when he
Speaker 3: was with the Pacers, they were either always like first
Speaker 3: through third. With the Lakers, they were third and first
Speaker 3: in the seasons prior to the to the tray that
Speaker 3: blew everything up. So yeah, you know, I think there's
Speaker 3: some things that you can cover with, you know, and
Speaker 3: he's got a great staff. He's got Fizzdale on his staff,
Speaker 3: like yeah, and you.
Speaker 2: Guys trade jokes. We get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this guy talking about old SNL bits together.
Speaker 2: We get here the best of friends, we know.
Speaker 5: But thank you for that.
Speaker 2: It's very professional for you to disclose that.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I don't want anyone thinking I'm biased
Speaker 3: in any way other than just clinically depressed because of
Speaker 3: the seventy six ers.
Speaker 5: That is my only bias.
Speaker 6: Yes, But but you know, when Bob came on board,
Speaker 6: you know, one of the things I was thinking was
Speaker 6: exactly what you mentioned. Defensive minding guy, and he is
Speaker 6: a dude who has you know, especially works wonders with
Speaker 6: his bigs right like, and I was like, okay, he
Speaker 6: might unlock a new level with eight and on that
Speaker 6: side of things, I mean, this is a dude who
Speaker 6: had us thinking that Roy Hibbert might be the key
Speaker 6: to getting past the heatles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like that's what he does.
Speaker 6: But then Aton got shipped out and they shipp him
Speaker 6: out for NURKIC and I was like, Okay, what are
Speaker 6: we doing here?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 3: Yeah, k maybe who knows, maybe unlock's NRDKIC a similar
Speaker 3: foot speech to Roy Hibbert, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, submit boots out there.
Speaker 2: What about Jonathan Kuminga.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw his preseason highlights, but
Speaker 1: he's he's looking athletic, aggressive, he's attacking a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, okay, twenty eight, twenty six, twenty four
Speaker 1: points the last three games.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Dragonfly, would you start CP three
Speaker 2: or would you make Kuminga like just your your ultimate
Speaker 2: prize weapons six man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I feel like with Kamenga, we've been saying he's like
Speaker 6: two years away for like four years now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, wait till you're three man, wait.
Speaker 6: Till you're three, right, But but you know what, I
Speaker 6: am high on Kminga. I think that he's gonna be
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be special. The Chris Paul thing,
Speaker 6: I mean, I think we all thought that he was
Speaker 6: there to stabilize the second Union. Then it's the second unit.
Speaker 6: And then like reporters asked him about that, and he
Speaker 6: was like, who told John.
Speaker 5: Steve, Steve, get over here, Steve, this is a second unit.
Speaker 5: Isn't that hilarious?
Speaker 4: Steve?
Speaker 2: Isn't it laugh at that joke?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 6: And then you've got you got Klay Thompson out here
Speaker 6: posting Tupac against the world on his Instagram stories because
Speaker 6: he's not getting extended in the offseason. So it's a
Speaker 6: lot of different moving pieces there that they are going
Speaker 6: to have to make happiness. It's a lot riding on
Speaker 6: performances from those guys this season too, So it's going
Speaker 6: to be an interesting show in San Francisco, for sure.
Speaker 3: What do you think realistic expectations? Give me a range
Speaker 3: win range for the Wars or just like second in
Speaker 3: the Western Conference down to what do you think?
Speaker 4: I think I think they're Yeah, I think they're in
Speaker 4: that four to six range four to six.
Speaker 5: I think probably can.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because I mean seeing if Kaminga plays
Speaker 1: like this, I'm I'm I see a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of upside to that. But again I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'm I think because I am so blown away
Speaker 1: by Wenby, I'm going to be all, yeah, man, it's
Speaker 1: preseason yep. This is a precursor to everything that's going
Speaker 1: to happen. So in that sense, I guess I would
Speaker 1: be happy if I was a Doves fan. Sure, let's
Speaker 1: let's just get to Let's take a break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 3: Let's get and we'll get to Wemamma's the NBA story
Speaker 3: I want to talk about.
Speaker 5: It's the only thing I want to talk about.
Speaker 3: My wife is like please, Like, I'm like, it's no,
Speaker 3: but you don't understand. Please watching your phone while you're driving?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was able to start up.
Speaker 1: By the speed gauge, the odometer in the front of
Speaker 1: the Are you looking at your phone while you drive?
Speaker 3: Before we started? For some reason, I just want to
Speaker 3: hear Trump say his name, Like, doesn't it sound like a.
Speaker 5: Word that he would have a lot of Yeah?
Speaker 3: When bing Yama Yama, guys, teller than wem Bing Yama.
Speaker 2: Don't like his president much. Macron No, but Yama.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just feel like you'd really make a meal
Speaker 5: out of that.
Speaker 2: It's a our sandwich.
Speaker 3: Let's take a let's take a break and come back
Speaker 3: and talk about Webbing Yama and we're back.
Speaker 4: We're back.
Speaker 3: Does everybody just want to take a turn saying it
Speaker 3: as Trump? Miles, I think you had the best one
Speaker 3: before we started recording.
Speaker 2: Well, we love them, Dony folks.
Speaker 1: Victor Wembing Yama, Right, I think I did a better
Speaker 1: one in the warm up.
Speaker 2: I was better in the warm up. But hey, it
Speaker 2: is what it is.
Speaker 3: This uh so this is Miami game, Like every every
Speaker 3: every preseason game feels like an event, unlike anything I've
Speaker 3: ever I'm typically kind of a don't get too excited
Speaker 3: by the preseason person, just because I've because my my
Speaker 3: team just for the past few years been the seventy
Speaker 3: six Yers, and so I was just like, I can
Speaker 3: only take some much, you know, I can only invest
Speaker 3: so much of myself into that team. But this is like,
Speaker 3: I I can't think of a time when I've ever
Speaker 3: been this excited about every preseason game.
Speaker 5: And so the Miami Heat, Like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I know all of these highlights now,
Speaker 3: like by heart, Like I all the all the blocks,
Speaker 3: like some of the like where.
Speaker 1: You can test with one of the step from the
Speaker 1: like basically the three Come on, man, what yeah that
Speaker 1: one was wild.
Speaker 5: He's not shooting great from three. He is blocking.
Speaker 3: I really think he's whether they give him Defensive Player
Speaker 3: of the Year or not, I think he is going
Speaker 3: to affect more shots than any And this is crazy.
Speaker 3: Like I've gone from being like I've got this crazy
Speaker 3: idea that he could be defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 3: to be like, it's a given this guy can be
Speaker 3: defensive player of the year.
Speaker 2: And I was saying, like, even without maybe the stats
Speaker 2: I have, like it looks like what everyone's been saying
Speaker 2: even when we first saw him and at Summer League,
Speaker 2: it's like he's just gonna change the subconscious of offensive players.
Speaker 5: You could just see it.
Speaker 3: Every time the other team has the ball and he's
Speaker 3: in there, like they're just like you can see that
Speaker 3: they're worried about where he is and like not taking
Speaker 3: shots they normally would take. And like even in that
Speaker 3: first preseason game when he only had one block. It
Speaker 3: was like the one the one time that somebody was
Speaker 3: willing to shoot with him around was when they thought
Speaker 3: they had beat him by like five steps and they
Speaker 3: had to beat him by five steps and he still
Speaker 3: blocked them.
Speaker 6: Yeah like that okay, Yeah, Jalen literally put him in
Speaker 6: a spin sc like there's a point when Wimby's back
Speaker 6: is turned to a driving Jalen Williams and he takes
Speaker 6: like two strides and punches and.
Speaker 3: It seems like it seems like Miami, you know, in
Speaker 3: a couple of ways were like, all right, guys, like
Speaker 3: don't don't let it getting your head like he's not
Speaker 3: gonna block everything. You're just like and they were taking
Speaker 3: shots that they normally would have taken if there was
Speaker 3: a set foo on the court, and he was blocking
Speaker 3: them at like like one of them was kind of
Speaker 3: like a floater that he blocked at the peak of
Speaker 3: the balls like arc in the air. Like I was like,
Speaker 3: is that goaltending? I don't know, Like I've.
Speaker 2: Never seen someone block it at that point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's he how what's his wingspan?
Speaker 4: Eight feet?
Speaker 2: His wingspan is.
Speaker 1: Eight feet, wingspan is eight feet eight feet, Like I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess I had heard that, but like to see
Speaker 1: it in motion is a whole other thing.
Speaker 4: And hands straight up.
Speaker 6: It looks like he's like got a nine to seven
Speaker 6: nine eight reach when you didn't measure it that way.
Speaker 1: Or it looks like when someone's yeah, working with like
Speaker 1: a shooting coach and they have to they use like
Speaker 1: a broom to simulate like a like a defender, except
Speaker 1: he's like holding.
Speaker 2: Two brooms, Like that's what the length looks like.
Speaker 4: I'm like, is that serious?
Speaker 3: I feel like he's gonna First of all, the Cornet
Speaker 3: contest is now a legitimate Like you know the thing
Speaker 3: we always talked about last year that Luke Cornette from
Speaker 3: the Celtics would like stand in the lane and just
Speaker 3: jump while someone was taking a three and it would
Speaker 3: be distracting and like people, you know, it's the same
Speaker 3: like Shane Battier used to cover people's eyes as they
Speaker 3: were shooting, and like it affected their shooting percentage more
Speaker 3: than like you might expect. Like I feel like when
Speaker 3: Beyond like accidentally blocked some of those shots just from
Speaker 3: the lane. Doesn't make sense, but like that's the feeling
Speaker 3: you get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, completely, I mean, are you are You're I'm guessing
Speaker 1: you seem excited Dragonfly, like are you?
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people again, other people are
Speaker 2: doing this with Wemby.
Speaker 4: It's preseason man, that's there's the preseason man.
Speaker 3: There, come on, preseason man guy is actually a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't know that. But his cousin is the
Speaker 3: defense guy. Yeah, exactly one can tell.
Speaker 5: You can tell they spent a lot of time talking
Speaker 5: to each other with the.
Speaker 1: Hater kingdoms what about defense And it's only preseason man,
Speaker 1: got to great.
Speaker 6: I am super excited about this new because the one
Speaker 6: play that made me literally drop my phone in disbelief,
Speaker 6: like what I'm watching my bed, Yes, and I got
Speaker 6: my phone and this movie, like what did I just watch?
Speaker 4: When he dunked on Thomas Bryant.
Speaker 6: From outside the restricted area And I want to be
Speaker 6: clear to the listeners, he didn't jump from outside the
Speaker 6: restrict area.
Speaker 4: His entire body was outside when he dunk.
Speaker 3: When he dunked on somebody who is also standing outside
Speaker 3: of the restricted area, like Thomas Bryant's feet are like
Speaker 3: right at the edge of the restricted area and he
Speaker 3: dunks on him, Like so.
Speaker 5: He's what And b.
Speaker 6: NBA players like what just happened? What what do y'all
Speaker 6: expect me to do with that? And we're with you,
Speaker 6: what can you do with that?
Speaker 4: It's the shell getting down the lay hand do sewing
Speaker 4: us everything.
Speaker 2: With a left hand, right handed, right over the shoulder
Speaker 2: of Thomas right now, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's like a it was like a like a old
Speaker 1: Looney Tunes cartoon, like it was a space dam dunk
Speaker 1: Man the dunk that when when the game.
Speaker 3: Brian's performance in this moment is one of my favorite performances.
Speaker 3: Like just like if you could give an Academy Award
Speaker 3: to somebody, like not that he's acting, but just like
Speaker 3: everything about his what he's doing with his body and
Speaker 3: faith is so perfect. And he didn't even have like
Speaker 3: the opportunity to act, like, you know, have his ego
Speaker 3: be like okay, let's just shake it off. Shake it off,
Speaker 3: you know like most play players and they get absolutely posterized.
Speaker 8: They're like, okay, keep it moving, don't don't acknowledge the
Speaker 8: l you just he is so sincere confused, Like it's
Speaker 8: almost like it's half like looking at his teammates like hey,
Speaker 8: why y'all let him do that to me kind of thing,
Speaker 8: and then also him fully just like like.
Speaker 4: He's like a human should not be able to do this.
Speaker 6: If there's that element of it too, it's like the
Speaker 6: best breaking up the fourth wall since Andrew buying him
Speaker 6: laugh at us, laugh with when Blake dunked, Remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gonna like he.
Speaker 3: Spikes the camera like Jim in the office, Like, uh,
Speaker 3: it's really amazing.
Speaker 4: Shell shocked.
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's reminded me like Tom Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: in the beginning Private Ryan where he's like, yeah even
Speaker 1: hearing the crowd, it's.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, yeah that like high pitched wine. I
Speaker 3: do like I think we need to think, uh seriously
Speaker 3: about making Thomas Bryant our patron saying of the business
Speaker 3: decision because not that not that he like really had
Speaker 3: an eye option there, Like yeah, he didn't have a
Speaker 3: chance to make a business decision, but his reaction to
Speaker 3: being posterized was like he was martyred so that others
Speaker 3: could live.
Speaker 2: So that others could learn. Maybe this ain't this might
Speaker 2: not be the guy to try it, but what.
Speaker 4: Do you do?
Speaker 6: Like he stopped them outside the restrictor you're like it
Speaker 6: was supposed to be jump hook time.
Speaker 2: He's watch this young man just put that in over
Speaker 2: your head.
Speaker 4: It's like, let me get right by your thank you? Yeah,
Speaker 4: going the way.
Speaker 1: It's like it's truly Yeah, his confusion I think embodies everyone.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like when people are trying to throw
Speaker 1: cold water on I'm like, y'all, he's leaving players on
Speaker 1: the court confused and di oriented by his size and
Speaker 1: what he's doing like that, to me is the greatest
Speaker 1: indicator of like everyone, like.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah this is not what do we do now because
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like where is this going?
Speaker 2: But yeah, not everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, when they get those, it's time to decide
Speaker 1: do I get out the way or maybe up with
Speaker 1: somebody and can contest this dunk. I think there there
Speaker 1: could be a plenty of poor business decisions this season.
Speaker 3: The mid range game is superducer Jabbari was calling out,
Speaker 3: the mid range game is like really crazy right now,
Speaker 3: Like and by the way he can dunk from the
Speaker 3: mid range like that, I'm including that, but like his
Speaker 3: mid range jumpers and like just beautiful footwork.
Speaker 5: It really is beautiful.
Speaker 6: Like it's like like we haven't seen a seven foot
Speaker 6: guy you know, moved away like that with the in
Speaker 6: the mid range, with the with the mid range you know,
Speaker 6: jumpers and all that's like KD Like that's what he
Speaker 6: reminds me of when I see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, except seven to five, right, unbelievable, Bro,
Speaker 1: It's un Yeah. I can't I mean, I just can't
Speaker 1: wait to see every single game now because I'm.
Speaker 2: Just feel like I'm seeing new kinds. We're seeing the.
Speaker 1: Sport evolving like it's minor ways, but we're definitely at
Speaker 1: the dawn of something very new. And that's that's all
Speaker 1: we want as fans, you know what I mean, Keep
Speaker 1: it exciting and keep elevating.
Speaker 2: And I don't know here we.
Speaker 3: Are, Yeah, any anything I get, I guess we've got.
Speaker 3: The Houston Rockets traded Kevin Porter Junior to future second
Speaker 3: round picks to Oka. See who are waving Porter Junior immediately,
Speaker 3: but the Thunder are sending Oladipo and Jeremiah Robinson Earl
Speaker 3: in the transaction. Okay, see now has We just wanted
Speaker 3: to bring this up because they have fifteen first round
Speaker 3: and twenty two second round picks over the next seven years.
Speaker 3: Sam the first round picks over the next seven years.
Speaker 2: Picking him.
Speaker 3: Like they had a normal amount of picks, Like, I
Speaker 3: still would expect them to be a top like four
Speaker 3: team in the West at some point in the next
Speaker 3: five years.
Speaker 5: And like, now they have this much to work with,
Speaker 5: like they why.
Speaker 2: Don't they just start another team?
Speaker 3: Does anyone like ever split like a stock, like a
Speaker 3: stocky doing really well?
Speaker 5: They just split?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, like okay the orange or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, you're like you're playing blackjack. You got
Speaker 2: two aces, split them, split them. Here we go. And
Speaker 2: I guess that's where Sam. Do the people of Seattle
Speaker 2: a solid and just use those picks to recreate the SuperSonics. Yeah,
Speaker 2: charitable work.
Speaker 6: But but Presty's a smart dude, you know, I think
Speaker 6: he's he is like your your anti Danny Ainge, your
Speaker 6: anti pat Riley to a degree, because he is someone
Speaker 6: who has no delusions of will hold off until the
Speaker 6: off season and free agency and get guys here that way,
Speaker 6: because he knows that they're in Oklahoma and you're not
Speaker 6: going to be you know, a free agent, you know,
Speaker 6: hot bed destination there. So you know they're drafting very well.
Speaker 6: They got Kiddy, they got Chad in the draft. Of course,
Speaker 6: you know, they got SGA in the trade with the clips,
Speaker 6: and you know, I think that he's really gonna work
Speaker 6: wonders of those. I don't think he's gonna have that
Speaker 6: weird Danny Ainge attachment to the picks. I think that
Speaker 6: when it's time to, you know, make the trade for
Speaker 6: some pieces that will them into a championship content, he's
Speaker 6: gonna pull the trig.
Speaker 4: On for sure.
Speaker 5: Right Why wait?
Speaker 3: Why not do it right now this season when I
Speaker 3: have money on.
Speaker 5: Them winning the championship?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: How many picks are in the in the second round?
Speaker 4: Is it thirty?
Speaker 5: Twenty two?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, like in the draft?
Speaker 5: Oh, like, well.
Speaker 4: It's forty, isn't it total?
Speaker 1: I think so I'm just here, like I mean, like
Speaker 1: hypothetically we'll be like and yeah, we'll just run all
Speaker 1: the second draft picks for this year like we got them.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they're in various years, but when
Speaker 2: you think of.
Speaker 3: The totally total of sixty thirty in each round, so.
Speaker 1: Eight away from hypothetic, I mean obviously in a very
Speaker 1: hypothetical sense, but having enough picks to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's all one round.
Speaker 4: Just let us get this whole round right here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, here, let me get too many real quickly,
Speaker 3: too many picks, Like they're gonna need to consolidate like
Speaker 3: five of those to you know, get some one player.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it'll be as hard to
Speaker 2: attrack people to okay see now, because I'm I mean
Speaker 2: like we've been like everyone slowly talking them up more
Speaker 2: and more, and they're you know, you're getting excited. You see,
Speaker 2: there's like a project there coming together, like yeah, right,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like they're they've they've got a lot.
Speaker 4: Going for him right now.
Speaker 1: Going to go to bron promise is not over.
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to throw a bone.
Speaker 4: Stop filing though.
Speaker 6: He's gonna wait for some superstar to become disgrunted with four,
Speaker 6: three or four more years on his deal end.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna pull the triggering at And.
Speaker 2: He was like, how would you like thirty seven picks?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Should we should we take a break and come back
Speaker 3: and do the fastest segment in podcasting.
Speaker 2: She said that so quick? Yeah, absolutely, all.
Speaker 5: Right, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back. Dragonfly Jones, I got a Dragonfly Jones,
Speaker 2: I got a dragon five. Don's old baby, Oh you
Speaker 2: are in the hot seat. So fourth order, wrap it
Speaker 2: by a round of questioning, close out the show.
Speaker 4: Every time with this one.
Speaker 1: It's the fastest question answer segment on all sports podcasting history. Okay,
Speaker 1: next question, send it right back, No long answers. Don't
Speaker 1: put our record at steak here. You have to keep
Speaker 1: this thing moving because we have people eyeing this spot
Speaker 1: on YouTube, a lot of people.
Speaker 2: They you know, we're trendsetters, obviously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you ready, Jack, All right, here we go.
Speaker 2: Let me just just my neck is a little tight.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I'm optimal for this part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, got badly injured the last time we did one
Speaker 3: of these.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I feel.
Speaker 3: It was that part though, when you yell at Brian
Speaker 3: that you just popped like five blood vessels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I compressed a few discs. But that's fine.
Speaker 1: We played through it. You played through it.
Speaker 2: You want to go first?
Speaker 4: Who goes first? God?
Speaker 5: Why don't you go first?
Speaker 4: Miles?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go first.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Dragonfly Jones, give me, give us, give
Speaker 1: the people your boldest prediction.
Speaker 2: For the upcoming NBA season.
Speaker 1: Not like bold in the sense of like, oh he
Speaker 1: could be right, like put all your credibility on the
Speaker 1: line and say something outlandish, but also in your heart
Speaker 1: you would love to see it happen.
Speaker 6: I think that okay, speaking of okay, see, I think
Speaker 6: they're at that point where they're going to send like
Speaker 6: a top three seed home in in the first round.
Speaker 5: Wow, okay, Okay.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be like a six or seventeen.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 4: I think they're going to send the top three seed
Speaker 4: home first round. Oh wow, Okay, I.
Speaker 5: Like that, Jack, I love it. You keep going and
Speaker 5: win the title. Right?
Speaker 4: Who do you got?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Who do you? Who do you got?
Speaker 2: Picking with the who's getting the ring?
Speaker 4: Milwaukee?
Speaker 5: Milwaukee? Interesting? And what is it about?
Speaker 2: What is it about Milwake?
Speaker 3: I'm hearing nothing but good stuff coming out of the Sixers.
Speaker 6: I mean, Milwaukee's got this guy whoars number zero, who's
Speaker 6: really good at playing point guard and you know, a
Speaker 6: little hard or something yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something
Speaker 6: like that. But yeah, I think he I think he's
Speaker 6: a really good player. I keep your eyes on that guy, Okay.
Speaker 4: I will. I'm interest.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of rumors, but I guess I'll
Speaker 2: have to see with my own eyes for sure.
Speaker 3: Right, get ready, this is a really fast question. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So there's a clip of Cam Johnson talking to JJ
Speaker 3: Reddick about the level.
Speaker 5: Did you see this clip?
Speaker 3: That's my first question shoot about the shooting thing, the
Speaker 3: shooting mechanics.
Speaker 5: And I'm just curious, like, do you have a favorite.
Speaker 3: Student of the game moment that you've seen from a
Speaker 3: player or just like a player that you know like
Speaker 3: pays attention to that sort of thing. Like the thing
Speaker 3: that impressed me was like how both of them were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: well Ray does this with his left foot and just
Speaker 3: like you, I've noticed you do this. And then like
Speaker 3: there's just this thing that shooters respect about one another
Speaker 3: and like are paying attention to and this whole level
Speaker 3: of detail that they're bringing to watching basketball that I
Speaker 3: was not aware of as somebody who watch He wasn't one.
Speaker 5: Of the best. But is there has that ever jumped
Speaker 5: out to you from from anybody just hearing anybody.
Speaker 6: Talk, I'll say, you know a moment that reminds me
Speaker 6: that is we all remember the clip when when bron
Speaker 6: was telling Austin Reeves something that was just blowing his mind,
Speaker 6: and it was just like something that seems so normal
Speaker 6: and Mundane Tobroun when he was telling where he you know,
Speaker 6: missing a sign or whatever on the basketball was just
Speaker 6: blown away. And then Austin Reeves had a moment this
Speaker 6: preseason where he was doing that with the rook where
Speaker 6: he was coaching the rook up was like, you know, okay,
Speaker 6: I don't think I'll pick it up on this either.
Speaker 4: So it was like the student became the teacher in
Speaker 4: that moment. Yeah, that was like a full three sixty
Speaker 4: over right there.
Speaker 3: Peet a man of fish, he'll eat for a day.
Speaker 3: Teach a man to fish, and he'll be like annoyed
Speaker 3: because that's all I don't know.
Speaker 1: Your rooks everything, Yeah about different lures and stuff, and I.
Speaker 5: Wish man, like I don't boring.
Speaker 2: We have a game.
Speaker 5: Look, man, I'm fishing.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, good, but we're gonna lose so I can
Speaker 2: go fish. Uh, dragonfly. Who's the best player you've ever
Speaker 2: witnessed in person?
Speaker 5: And what did they do?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What is like? What was it about seeing them physically
Speaker 2: play that You're like this, I'm witnessing something very unique.
Speaker 4: Best player I ever witnessed in person?
Speaker 6: You know, I've been to a finals game that's like
Speaker 6: the only NBA game I've ever mentioned and it was
Speaker 6: the the finals game in twenty nineteen where Steph at
Speaker 6: like forty and they still lost. So you know, I
Speaker 6: guess Steph would would be my pick by default there.
Speaker 6: But I'll tell you my favorite moment of when I
Speaker 6: saw an NBA player if this was when I was
Speaker 6: at North Carolina eighteen my freshman year, and there was
Speaker 6: just like an open run in the gym and Jerry
Speaker 6: Stackhouse was there, you know, like I said, had you
Speaker 6: and c you know in North Carolina connections there, So
Speaker 6: he was just getting an open running with these with
Speaker 6: these kids, and this one dude dunked on Jerry Stackhouse
Speaker 6: and just like yelled in his face, just.
Speaker 2: Barked on just how many years out of the league
Speaker 2: was he?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 6: This was this was peaked Jerry Stackhouse. This is like
Speaker 6: this was O one wow wow. Yeah, you know he
Speaker 6: was like around that time, right yeah, right, And this
Speaker 6: kid just dunks on Stack and he looks like yelling
Speaker 6: in his face, and Stack just and the kid runs
Speaker 6: back and Stack just calmly walks to this kid and
Speaker 6: he said, I don't know what he said to him,
Speaker 6: but that kid had he He gets face to face
Speaker 6: with this kid and just saying something to him, and
Speaker 6: that kid had like the fear of God in the eyes.
Speaker 6: But that's probably like my favorite, you know memory of
Speaker 6: seeing an actual NBA player right there.
Speaker 5: Amazing, beautiful.
Speaker 3: What's the most underrated NBA city to visit? What's your
Speaker 3: must have meal in that town?
Speaker 4: You know, d C. Let's go with d C.
Speaker 6: Man, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna give y'all, you know,
Speaker 6: a little Virginia byes here and I'm gonna go with
Speaker 6: d C. And I'm gonna just say, any if you
Speaker 6: find the right Chinese carry out spot and you get
Speaker 6: chicken wings with the marbles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a national treasure right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, Okay, I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: That's I remember the first time I went to d
Speaker 2: C and I was.
Speaker 1: Put on the Mumbo sauce and I was like, oh, changing, yes,
Speaker 1: please please to the point, isn't it now McDonald's has it.
Speaker 2: Like they're making their own version.
Speaker 4: Yes, But yeah, that's when I.
Speaker 2: Was a little that felt a little bit gross. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is this is not this is not
Speaker 2: like McDonald.
Speaker 6: I was like, as a long McDonald's consumed, I was like, bro,
Speaker 6: this is just like the Milan saucy.
Speaker 4: I rolled out and like, yeah, yeah, you know exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they didn't do it in February too, Like
Speaker 2: we've got mumbo sauce.
Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, put it on your chicken nuggets and
Speaker 1: here we go, Dragonfly. Last quote or no, that last question, Dragonfly.
Speaker 1: If you could have any player's skill set for a day,
Speaker 1: any skill set, but you still have.
Speaker 2: Your same physical body.
Speaker 1: So if you're talking about like having the leaping ability
Speaker 1: of like Steve Francis or something like that, just know
Speaker 1: that you will have to land on Earth with your
Speaker 1: body still Whose skill set and what and what is it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Well, you know that's easy because I'm a shorter guy,
Speaker 6: So I'd go with spud Web so I could.
Speaker 5: Dump Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like just give me the guy my size of
Speaker 6: can dump man and I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. Was his vertical?
Speaker 4: Do we know?
Speaker 2: Was it up? I mean it had to have been
Speaker 2: forty five?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was only five seven, right.
Speaker 1: Because I remember what Steve Francis. For a while they
Speaker 1: were saying he had a high one too, like it
Speaker 1: was around forty forty.
Speaker 2: Six forty Wow, godly, that is something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I never got over forty five. You know,
Speaker 3: forty six is good.
Speaker 2: We all have to get it sometimes, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's hard. It's hard when the line flattens out.
Speaker 5: Finally, Dragonflat Jones, Jack or Miles.
Speaker 6: Both like like, we're gonna do the okay see approach
Speaker 6: here like team Orange and team either or.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, how many of the okay split the picks
Speaker 1: between Team Orange and Team Blue with how many first
Speaker 1: picks to who.
Speaker 4: Gets the first picks? Who gets the second round?
Speaker 1: I won't put you to that, but Dragonfly Jones, what
Speaker 1: a diplomatic answer.
Speaker 2: You're a fair human being and a fair guest. We'd
Speaker 2: always appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, we want to shout out
Speaker 1: listeners of the week. At its underscore, Ryan m Still
Speaker 1: it said, are you still taking hot takes?
Speaker 2: I'm on them, I'm on the WEMBA.
Speaker 5: He went with Australia.
Speaker 7: I feel like this is Australian WMB going going roy
Speaker 7: De poy and dare I say it move the.
Speaker 4: That's what it was.
Speaker 2: I thought those are Australian words.
Speaker 5: Roy in it. Yeah, that's that is That is a
Speaker 5: little too hot for my blood.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of that's all I want. Surface of
Speaker 1: the sun, you know what I mean? Just go there,
Speaker 1: just go there?
Speaker 3: Please do I dare set it on fire. I'm a
Speaker 3: bandwagon and say you did.
Speaker 5: Dare and I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it for you and love for the city
Speaker 3: of San Antonio, San anton for them.
Speaker 5: Do we think eight blick?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 5: Not even else?
Speaker 4: I think?
Speaker 6: I think if when we gets them to thirty three wins,
Speaker 6: he's a miracle worker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or your your favorite player Jack on the on the
Speaker 1: Spurs outside of Wimby it.
Speaker 2: Was Vassal Vassals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, ye, Devin, I'd love that, like y'all.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I do not know who this guy is.
Speaker 2: Dragonfly Jones, thank you so much for joining us. Where
Speaker 2: can people find you? Follow you?
Speaker 4: Hear you?
Speaker 2: All that good stuff?
Speaker 6: Yes, find me on Twitter at Dragonfly Jones with the
Speaker 6: Z at the end. And you can find me and
Speaker 6: my bros Mike and John on the Volume podcast network
Speaker 6: Jenkins and Jones. We are available on Apple Spotify, all
Speaker 6: that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're perfect, perfect perfect Uh And let's see you
Speaker 1: can find me at Miles of Gray on wherever they
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Speaker 3: You can find me at Jack Hunter Score O'Brien and
Speaker 3: on the Daily Zikes the other show miles that I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: You can news every day. So it's not just ball, y'all.
Speaker 2: I mean like this ball, but ball isn't all there is.
Speaker 2: Now go out there and help your family.
Speaker 5: Yeah that was your rejected and one T shirt that
Speaker 5: was too wordy.
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, it was that Gray and One logo guy.
Speaker 1: But he's like on a therapist chair, you know. Life.
Speaker 2: I have seen my kids in like eight years. All right,
Speaker 2: all right, if he'sa love to you all, We'll see
Speaker 2: you next time.
Speaker 5: Bye,