Speaker 1: We talked about this very early on in the podcast
Speaker 1: that I haven't held on too many things. I also
Speaker 1: was not a big journaler as a child, as you
Speaker 1: can tell by this diary that I did keep. Look
Speaker 1: at all these empty pages. For a few days, I
Speaker 1: wrote a lot. So I don't know why I managed
Speaker 1: to keep this diary. But it's from nineteen ninety six. Yes, yes, you.
Speaker 2: Sent me a page for this one time, or you
Speaker 2: sent me a quill from it. I sent you a
Speaker 2: quote from it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was a bring a birthday text to writer, something
Speaker 1: that I had in this Let's see. So one of
Speaker 1: my least favorite things I did in this journal was
Speaker 1: I would write on days that said at the top
Speaker 1: that it's February third, But then i'd write today is
Speaker 1: the fifth. I think, well, why are you writing on
Speaker 1: the third, Danielle, what on earth are you doing? And
Speaker 1: then I would apologize to my journal for not writing
Speaker 1: very often.
Speaker 2: That's the world.
Speaker 1: I talked to it like it was a person I
Speaker 1: needed to. Then I'm letting down and constant and somebody
Speaker 1: I was speaking to future me. Do you write, dear
Speaker 1: journal or de dear diary, nice, dear diary. Today is
Speaker 1: the fifth.
Speaker 2: I think. Sorry, I haven't written in a few days.
Speaker 1: Last night I forgot, and the night before that, I
Speaker 1: spent the night at Vicki's. That's Angel and Vicki. Multiple
Speaker 1: times I spent the night at Angel and Vicki's. Purpose
Speaker 1: or did somebody not pick you up?
Speaker 2: What happened? So wait? To grown ups, you would just
Speaker 2: go spend the night at their house.
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes like Jonathan and I spent the night over there, and.
Speaker 3: Don't I don't want what is Honestly, guys, this is
Speaker 3: something we should probably privately talk about, because this is
Speaker 3: some of some of that is things where I go.
Speaker 2: How come I don't.
Speaker 1: Really because I also don't really remember it cool?
Speaker 2: Oh did you drink something first and then remember what?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I spent the night at Vicki's.
Speaker 1: I went to a party with Jonathan.
Speaker 2: That was cool. Anyway, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To spend the pages up to the fifth mostly talking
Speaker 1: about the fifth.
Speaker 2: I had the shittiest day.
Speaker 1: First of all, school was boring, rehearsal sucks, and writer
Speaker 1: was antisocial.
Speaker 2: That could have been any day. Oh my god, because
Speaker 2: it could have been any day. That's such a nice
Speaker 2: way to say. Writer was just a grumpy writer was
Speaker 2: anti social.
Speaker 1: Realize bummed me out because I had a crush on writer.
Speaker 1: So I was like, we're trying to figure out when
Speaker 1: I had a crush on you, be six, it was
Speaker 1: around the.
Speaker 4: Night Jonathan, you had a crush on rider John one
Speaker 4: teenage pin.
Speaker 2: Up was not enough.
Speaker 1: Jonathan and I weren't necessarily dating at this time. Jonathan
Speaker 1: and I were really off and on regularly over the years.
Speaker 1: But something also that should be noted for teenage Danielle
Speaker 1: in my diary says like at the bottom, I love
Speaker 1: Landon and Writer and David. I went to high school
Speaker 1: with no idea who David is, no clue who David is.
Speaker 1: But I had no problem writing the multiple people I
Speaker 1: was in love with. It didn't there was not just
Speaker 1: one person. Why would there be one persons.
Speaker 2: Anti So you were antisocial? Yeah, of course, well, I continued.
Speaker 1: Then we went to acting class, but not before we
Speaker 1: picked up Rachel, which is underlined, so apparently it was cool.
Speaker 2: Then we went to class. I was dating Rachel, That's
Speaker 2: what I mean. Maybe underlining because you were angry about.
Speaker 5: Having cool cool, But I do say then we went
Speaker 5: to class and she was cool, Okay, we improved.
Speaker 2: Oh, improv, you're right, improv. I was like, improved. I
Speaker 2: don't improved on that. Yeah, you're right, I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Then we improved, and then we did our monologues. Mine
Speaker 1: was horrid. Oh well, then Writer, I know I can't spell,
Speaker 1: but I can use some words. Oh well, then Writer
Speaker 1: and Rachel got all lovey dovey, and it made me
Speaker 1: want a puke.
Speaker 2: Oho, this is read. And then I say, then they
Speaker 2: kissed and it looked so cute. What you want to puke?
Speaker 2: But then you wanted to watch this kiss.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I made a bunch of sense.
Speaker 1: She's actually really sweet and cool. But I really like Writer.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's right for him. Then again, maybe
Speaker 1: i'm not either. There's some reason it's like a full
Speaker 1: on crush too.
Speaker 2: But you're like, I had no idea. But I do
Speaker 2: remember like we were we were hanging out in ninety six,
Speaker 2: because I remember, like, because I could drive, so you
Speaker 2: actually spend time with me alone. I do remember like
Speaker 2: this during this period, we like you would come to
Speaker 2: my apartment. You came with Jonathan one time. I remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, so I guess we were spending a lot
Speaker 2: of time together, and we were we spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time together around this time.
Speaker 1: Which is probably where my reasonableness in this comes along,
Speaker 1: is that I probably without knowing it. You know, when
Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time with people and you're
Speaker 1: a kid, you're constantly going, is this more?
Speaker 2: Is this more?
Speaker 1: Because you're you're all you're first of all, you're just
Speaker 1: all hormonal, and you are constantly like, what does it
Speaker 1: mean to have a friendship with someone of the opposite set?
Speaker 2: On a fugu kiss him? Do I want a.
Speaker 1: Puke knowing he has a girlfriend? Or do I actually
Speaker 1: think when they kiss they look real cute together? They're
Speaker 1: cut cute together? Makes me want to peel? So then
Speaker 1: I said, and then I went to Writer's house. We
Speaker 1: went I went to Writer's house after class, and then
Speaker 1: my mom picked me up and she was making useless
Speaker 1: conversation just for the sake of talking. My poor mom
Speaker 1: literally just trying to talk to me, how is work?
Speaker 2: She wants to be what she wants the information you're
Speaker 2: giving your diary, and you're just like probably stonewalling her
Speaker 2: because I told you yep.
Speaker 1: And then she she said that I was excluding her
Speaker 1: from my life. How do you explain to your mother
Speaker 1: you're growing up? I write in my diary.
Speaker 2: She's never done that before. She has no idea.
Speaker 1: So after long talks and lots of crying, nothing is resolved.
Speaker 2: Then we both started crying and I grabbed her and
Speaker 2: hugged her. What a day? Yuck. I love Landon and
Speaker 2: my mom and David. I didn't make the list that day. No,
Speaker 2: you're not on the list that day. Who is David?
Speaker 2: And who is named David?
Speaker 4: Walking around right now having no idea that Danielle Fischele
Speaker 4: once had a huge crush on.
Speaker 2: Him, I know I have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even remember that I had a
Speaker 1: crush on him, So how how I mean I really
Speaker 1: have to go through this.
Speaker 2: I didn't read a bunch of these. I literally just
Speaker 2: picked what your mom was talking about too. And we
Speaker 2: have her on the show like that you spent time
Speaker 2: with me and I turned you against her. She has
Speaker 2: to go pick you up from my apartment and you're
Speaker 2: just like, mom, oh.
Speaker 4: You were never moody with me, Like it was never
Speaker 4: there's the you just never were not real, not that
Speaker 4: I recall, I mean not that I remember, not where
Speaker 4: it was ever like Man, because my diary was never
Speaker 4: like Man.
Speaker 2: I used to love Rider, but now he's a d
Speaker 2: I think I I you know, I think I would
Speaker 2: just I was always like I would just be sitting
Speaker 2: on the side of the set, reading by myself and like,
Speaker 2: you know, thinking my deep thoughts and I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I you know, I wasn't mean. I don't think
Speaker 2: I was mean. Like it was in my own head,
Speaker 2: and you know, it was miserable in my own way,
Speaker 2: probably you know, missing Rachel because I had to be
Speaker 2: at work and couldn't be making out with her all
Speaker 2: day or whatever whatever. I also love that we rehearse
Speaker 2: all day and then we do an acting class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would work all day and then go to
Speaker 1: an acting class and then go back to your house
Speaker 1: after and then there would probably be like people coming
Speaker 1: over watching a movie or something, and then the next
Speaker 1: day go back to work.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: So wait, just to get this out there, other than
Speaker 4: on the show that one time, you guys never kissed,
Speaker 4: never hooked up, never anything.
Speaker 2: Right, nothing, okay, just just checking, just checking what if?
Speaker 1: Will what if all this time we had been keeping
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 2: It's like the thing, you know, when I was spending
Speaker 2: so much time at his house. Wouldn't that be funny?
Speaker 4: You never know where It's like, well, okay, maybe we
Speaker 4: were hooking up once, tise, I've got several of those stories.
Speaker 4: We probably don't know. Yeah, that's true, people, we probably
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: What you don't know is that Will and I were
Speaker 2: hooking up for all.
Speaker 1: I didn't think to ask. That's true, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were never moody with Will. We traveled
Speaker 1: to Europe together. Hey, stranger things have happened. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Podmeat's Diary. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm writer Strong, and I'm David.
Speaker 2: Yeah what if David was a code name for somebody.
Speaker 2: But although you didn't feel the need to hide anything,
Speaker 2: you were pretty up.
Speaker 1: I told my diary everything, and I'm sure it's in
Speaker 1: here in some of the pages leaving up to it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's I'm sure there's something. Do you know
Speaker 2: about Mortified? I love Mortified. He's so great he never
Speaker 2: even heard of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, also, you guys like dear Diary, Hey was
Speaker 1: up and there was w H A Z and.
Speaker 2: The up is an arrow?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, perfect is strong the girls.
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Speaker 1: com now. So today we are recapping season three, episode fifteen,
Speaker 1: The Heart is a Lonely Hunter. The title is a
Speaker 1: playoff the debut novel from American author Carson McCullers that
Speaker 1: was a literary sensation and was seventeenth on the Top
Speaker 1: one hundred Novels of the twentieth Century by Time magazine.
Speaker 2: Obviously as one would know. Of course I've never read
Speaker 2: answered me neither no of it, but I've never written. Well,
Speaker 2: now you have a book, the Book Club. There we Go.
Speaker 1: It originally aired February second, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis
Speaker 1: is that Sean starts to have serious feelings for a
Speaker 1: nice girl, Dana Pruett, but she has doubts that Sean
Speaker 1: is boyfriend material. It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It
Speaker 1: was written by Kevin Kelton and guest starring Brandon Maggert
Speaker 1: as Pat. He appeared in recurring sketches during the first
Speaker 1: season of Sesame. Street, was Tone nominated in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: and appeared in the movie The World According to Garp.
Speaker 2: And then we.
Speaker 1: Have the debut of Larissa Olinik as Dana Brewed Yay.
Speaker 1: She is a boy meets World favorite who is best
Speaker 1: known as Alex mack and from Ten Things I Hate
Speaker 1: About You. And then also we have Kimberly Scott as Sonya,
Speaker 1: who's best known from The Abyss and Falling Down, and.
Speaker 2: Danny Strong as Arthur.
Speaker 1: So he may be a less recognizable name than say
Speaker 1: Adam Scott or Bill Lawrence, but Danny is in the
Speaker 1: top three most successful Boy Meets World alumni. He would
Speaker 1: later show up on Seinfeld twenty nine episodes of Buffy,
Speaker 1: a ton of Gilmore Girls, mad Men, and most recently
Speaker 1: as Todd on Billions, but his biggest successes have been
Speaker 1: behind the camera. He won a Golden Globe and an
Speaker 1: Emmy and a Peabody for the HBO movie Game Change,
Speaker 1: and one another Peabody for the recent Hulu limited series
Speaker 1: Dope Sick.
Speaker 2: His first big hit was rec Count. That was what
Speaker 2: sort of launched him and the others entirely his own project.
Speaker 2: Like he was at that point kind of just known
Speaker 2: as an actor, and he decided to go to Florida
Speaker 2: and do all this research on what happened during the
Speaker 2: two thousand election, Yes exactly, And he did all his
Speaker 2: own research, interviewed primary sources him by himself, and nobody's
Speaker 2: paying him. And he wrote that incredible script and that
Speaker 2: just launched his screenwriting career. And now he directs to
Speaker 2: so successful and the nicest guy and like, I, you know,
Speaker 2: I got to know him later because we were both
Speaker 2: part of the like sort of troop of actors that
Speaker 2: would participate in the thrilling adventure hour that podcast, and
Speaker 2: it was actually a live show when we were doing it.
Speaker 2: Eventually became a very successful podcast, and one time we
Speaker 2: hosted the whole show as the two of us playing
Speaker 2: the Strong brothers, and it was so fun and yeah,
Speaker 2: but it was funny because I didn't really remember him.
Speaker 2: I knew I had met him before, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: tell you, like what episode of I didn't really work
Speaker 2: with him on. This episode was all you will?
Speaker 4: Yeah is that I And I'm pretty sure I'm right.
Speaker 4: This could be confused, and when I get into the story,
Speaker 4: I'll understand, but I'm ninety nine percent sure I'm right.
Speaker 4: I'm walking through the red Light District in Amsterdam one
Speaker 4: day with Marsden and another friend who'd never seen the
Speaker 4: red light district.
Speaker 2: So it's like Tuesday morning.
Speaker 4: You're like walking through, going like okay, so I'm just
Speaker 4: showing you the touristy stuff. Here's like the red light District,
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. And I turned the corner and
Speaker 4: it's Danny with with another group of friends doing exactly
Speaker 4: the same thing, and we're like.
Speaker 2: What hey, And we just ended up hanging out for
Speaker 2: the day. We didn't get the internship went to Amsterdam.
Speaker 2: It was so strange. I just ran into him in
Speaker 2: the streets of Amsterdam. It was really bizarre.
Speaker 4: So I think that's the last time that I saw him.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was really nice to work with, incredibly funny.
Speaker 4: But man who knew his writing?
Speaker 2: And then didn't he create Empire? Yes, I'm not quite dumb.
Speaker 1: He wrote Lee Daniels the Butler, and co wrote the
Speaker 1: Hunger Games two part finale, Walking j Part one and
Speaker 1: part two, and was the co creator of the Fox
Speaker 1: hit series Empire.
Speaker 4: So he's yes, amazing, amazing, Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: When when the strike is ended, I hope we get
Speaker 2: to have him on. Yes, that would be great. Uh
Speaker 2: what did you guys think of this episode? It's good,
Speaker 2: I thought so too. I liked it.
Speaker 4: I liked it. I thought this is the start and
Speaker 4: we're going to get into this and then the next episode.
Speaker 4: But man, the dynamic is changing and it's Sean is
Speaker 4: the lead of this show.
Speaker 2: Corey Well, I think Ben head finals for both weeks.
Speaker 1: No, no, not for both weeks, next next episode finals,
Speaker 1: but this one, no, I think leading into finals week.
Speaker 1: But also I love that this is like a two
Speaker 1: parts the continuity.
Speaker 2: We just it's really nice becoming more and more serialized
Speaker 2: led relationship finally, like where it's at and how they're
Speaker 2: managing their breakup and still being friends and all that.
Speaker 2: It's really it's Yeah, it feels.
Speaker 4: I like funny pop in, pop out Corey. I'm a
Speaker 4: big fan of that.
Speaker 2: I think it's also leaning into a little bit of
Speaker 2: dweeby Cory, Yes, but in such a funny way. I'm
Speaker 2: stuff that is so good at this since him so well,
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, and I'm kind of at least for
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm kind of like in Sean driving the
Speaker 4: story and Corey popping in with funny one liners.
Speaker 2: It just works. It's expanding the ensemble, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is really paying off. I mean because I feel
Speaker 2: like the seed was planted for this exact storyline. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to remember the exact episode, but there was
Speaker 2: an episode where Sean got dumped for being a bad
Speaker 2: guy or not going to the side of the tracks.
Speaker 2: Was not the one?
Speaker 4: Wasn't that not going to the part you weren't invited
Speaker 4: to the the rich girl?
Speaker 2: Yes, dump by the rich girl, And so I feel
Speaker 2: like this is just taking that sort of b story
Speaker 2: and making it the a story and it's you know, sweet.
Speaker 4: Worked, totally worked, and anytime it's you and Tony.
Speaker 2: I'm still getting into this.
Speaker 4: How they they look at that dynamic and how that's
Speaker 4: working and go, yeah, we're gonna get rid of this.
Speaker 2: And I will never understand. It doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 2: you know, it is so great.
Speaker 1: Well, let's jump into our recap. We start in Chubbys
Speaker 1: Sean is making out with a new character.
Speaker 2: No, there were no.
Speaker 4: But that was the thing is there's always there's your
Speaker 4: macking on each other, and there's nothing from this.
Speaker 1: Probably wasn't recorded before the audience, and they chose, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a pre shot episode, a preshot scene, and
Speaker 1: they probably chose not to add to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and I go way back, right. I first
Speaker 2: met Larissa when she was eight, I think she was
Speaker 2: only eight years old and I was nine years old,
Speaker 2: and we were cast together as the kids in Lama's
Speaker 2: rob in San Francis. So we both had our first
Speaker 2: big break, you know, moving from local community theater in
Speaker 2: northern California to you know, what was a cattle call
Speaker 2: audition where we all just lined up in five hundred
Speaker 2: kids or whatever outside of the Current Theater in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: and we both got cast that first day and spent
Speaker 2: nine months together doing Lena's rob So we were so close.
Speaker 2: You know, She's like she's like a sister to me,
Speaker 2: and I remember this was kind of awkward because I've
Speaker 2: never been romantic with each other and here we I
Speaker 2: remember the first rehearsal being like, so we're gonna okay,
Speaker 2: We're just gonna kiss, and just being like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I guess this works. But yeah, I love Larissa. I
Speaker 2: actually haven't seen her for a couple of years now.
Speaker 2: She moved to New York and I think she's back
Speaker 2: in LA now because she's been doing a show for Nickelodeon.
Speaker 2: But she's Yeah, she's just been a lifelong friend and
Speaker 2: so doing this was I remember when she got cast.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they wrote the part for her,
Speaker 2: but it was sort of like going full circle. It
Speaker 2: was like being with like one of my oldest actor
Speaker 2: friends and being able to do these scenes together. I
Speaker 2: just I remember having a lot of fun this week
Speaker 2: and being so happy that she was around that it
Speaker 2: was great together. I mean, you can tell that you
Speaker 2: guys have a connection there.
Speaker 4: There's obviously chemistry between the two of your's actors because
Speaker 4: you're great.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, you can feel there's trust, like there's a
Speaker 1: comfort and that that's so sweet.
Speaker 2: So like were your fate Were your parents' friends too, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: our parents are. All of our parents were friends, and
Speaker 2: we used to go to her house all the time.
Speaker 2: She lived in She grew up in Palo Alto, so
Speaker 2: she was like about like three hours away from where
Speaker 2: I grew up. So actually, like going to San Francisco
Speaker 2: to do the play every night was like we were
Speaker 2: all commuting to the to the theater, but our parents
Speaker 2: would like take turns watching us. We have the same
Speaker 2: teacher behind, you know, backstage, but you know, when you're
Speaker 2: doing Lamez. There were so many parts. I mean, like
Speaker 2: her part in lame Is was actually young Cosette is done.
Speaker 2: After one scene she sings Castle in a Cloud and
Speaker 2: then you're just hanging out backstage and gav Rosha only
Speaker 2: shows up in the right at the end of the
Speaker 2: first stack. So there was so much downtime where we
Speaker 2: were just running around. We owned the Current Theater, like
Speaker 2: the Current Theater was like our playground. Basically, we went
Speaker 2: through the earthquake of eighty nine together during rehearsals of Lame,
Speaker 2: Like we just had so many life experiences that we
Speaker 2: were there for, and like we would take you know,
Speaker 2: between matinee performances and night performances, we would hang out
Speaker 2: in this one. It's it's a it's the theater district
Speaker 2: of San Francisco. Not a great neighborhood. It's like right
Speaker 2: next to the Tenderloin, and but we were so comfortable there.
Speaker 2: We would just we would roam the streets between between
Speaker 2: shows and we had like all our favorite places to
Speaker 2: get dinner and to hang out. And there was like
Speaker 2: a glass elevator me you're talking about, like me walking
Speaker 2: the streets in New York, and we we had a
Speaker 2: middle with us at all times. We would go to
Speaker 2: Fao Schwartz, which we could walk to Schwartz and we
Speaker 2: do that. It was so fun, Like, yeah, we just
Speaker 2: would we grew up together. Did you have a crush
Speaker 2: on her, Yes, ok, definitely actually after this later later
Speaker 2: I had a crush on her, but not at this point.
Speaker 2: I don't think at this point she was just like
Speaker 2: a little sister, right right, Okay, and that she is now.
Speaker 4: You said three hours away, how far were your commute
Speaker 4: every day to get to the stage.
Speaker 2: Hour and a half from My mom talks about how
Speaker 2: she would chew ice to stay awake to drive me
Speaker 2: home because the show wouldn't end until you know, it's
Speaker 2: a three hour show and would start at eight o'clock,
Speaker 2: so the show wouldn't end until eleven, and then we'd
Speaker 2: have to drive home and I would have school the
Speaker 2: next day, so I would just pass out in the
Speaker 2: back seat, and then my mom would be chewing ice
Speaker 2: to drive, to stay awake to drive me home. It
Speaker 2: was crazy, the commitment that my parents I cannot tell you,
Speaker 2: like when I think about it, you know, like I
Speaker 2: like roll my eyes having to drive twenty minutes to
Speaker 2: take Indy to gymnastics. You know, like I can't imagine
Speaker 2: eight shows a week, six nights a week, driving to
Speaker 2: San Francisco. It was crazy, Like and that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's I think that that's you know, and I the
Speaker 2: parents of child actors are the people who are really working,
Speaker 2: you know, because as a kid, you're just like, this
Speaker 2: is all fun and you have so much energy that
Speaker 2: never occurs to you that this is like such a
Speaker 2: time commitment, such an energy drain. That it's really you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's parents that make child actors successful or not.
Speaker 4: Again, it depends on the parents, because my parents were
Speaker 4: hugely supportive.
Speaker 2: But they're both lawyers. They're like, we can't drive you anywhere.
Speaker 2: We both have.
Speaker 4: Jobs, so that's why I was on the bus all
Speaker 4: the time. So yes, but it is. It's got an.
Speaker 2: Hour and a half there in battle. That's so crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we have Larissa her debut as Dana Pruett.
Speaker 1: Sean tells her she's a great kisser and explains that
Speaker 1: you know a lot of girls trap both lips in
Speaker 1: this vacuum me suction thing, then your mouth caves in.
Speaker 1: You've got to break the seal before your lungs pop.
Speaker 2: Gross. Dana says she sure knows an awful lot about kissing.
Speaker 1: He admits he's done some random sampling, but purely for
Speaker 1: scientific reasons. They kiss again, and Sean says he really
Speaker 1: likes her and she likes him too. Sean asks when
Speaker 1: their second date will be, and Dana says she's doing
Speaker 1: volunteer work at the blood drive. That this school has
Speaker 1: every single money drive.
Speaker 2: It's fine collecting a ton of blood at this school.
Speaker 2: We need it. Man, what is happening where they need
Speaker 2: this much blood at this high school? I love it? Wow?
Speaker 2: And he says, well that blood drives not really his thing.
Speaker 1: His dad only his dad always says, only volunteer if
Speaker 1: they will douce your sentence.
Speaker 2: And then Dana.
Speaker 1: Offers a picnic instead, and Sean asks why they'd want
Speaker 1: to eat outside, and Dana says it just two people
Speaker 1: sitting on a blanket, really listening to what the other
Speaker 1: has to say. Sean pretends to be excited and he says,
Speaker 1: I love picnics, and Dane excitedly asks you do, and
Speaker 1: then Sean tells the truth.
Speaker 2: No, sorry, no, how about this this very prominent yin
Speaker 2: yang Ring ying yang Ring, I'm d ing yang Ring,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I remember the second I saw it.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, that was mine. But I
Speaker 2: have no idea where I got it or who gave
Speaker 2: it to me or what the deal was. But man,
Speaker 2: I wore that in real life, you were wearing that ring. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've noticed this whole episode, and we'll get into it
Speaker 2: in the next scene with me and Larissa. A lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of hand clutching going on, a lot
Speaker 2: of looking down at our hands while we like grab
Speaker 2: giant shirts and giant giant shirts. Yeah, that's the other
Speaker 2: thing I noticed.
Speaker 1: I do think handholding when you're young does really signify
Speaker 1: how much you like somebody. Like to you, looking at
Speaker 1: each other's hands is actually a very.
Speaker 2: Sweet yeah, Like, yeah, we do it a little too much,
Speaker 2: but we keep both both Larisa and I keep having
Speaker 2: a habit of like looking down at our own hands.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like clutching our hands. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of guys ring and looking down and like playing out
Speaker 2: the nerves of like this awkward conversation with this, you know, mister,
Speaker 2: but we do it a lot. He could have uses,
Speaker 2: you know, a little note to be like, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: don't take down the whole time we needed a hand wrangler. Great.
Speaker 1: Sehn says they should get back to what they do best,
Speaker 1: leading Dana to exclaim, you sure put a lot of
Speaker 1: emphasis on kissing. He laughs and says, I just really
Speaker 1: like it. Dana reveals that that's what she's heard. She
Speaker 1: tells him a second date isn't the best idea, but
Speaker 1: she thinks him for tonight. She walks away, and Sewn
Speaker 1: is extremely confused, asking himself what just happened here? And
Speaker 1: then we're in the school hallway. Corey comes running up
Speaker 1: to Sean and he slams his locker door shut. He's
Speaker 1: a little upset, but Sean says, you're always upset, which
Speaker 1: I thought was great because that's that's.
Speaker 2: The Corey we love. Yep, yep, always a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in a Henley and a flanneler looks good. It's a
Speaker 2: good look for Corey.
Speaker 1: It is a good look, and Corey says, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm more upset than usual. Corey says he was having
Speaker 1: breakfast with Janitor Bud this morning, and Sean asks Janitor Bud,
Speaker 1: Corey clarifies, I owed him.
Speaker 2: And I love that. There's no further explanation. We don't
Speaker 2: need to know. I love that.
Speaker 1: It's just they were having breakfast anyway. That's where Corey
Speaker 1: found out that Sean went out with Dana Prewitt last night.
Speaker 1: Corey's upset he didn't tell him. He emphasizes the fact
Speaker 1: that Dana Pruitt is a very nice girl. Corey tells
Speaker 1: him a girls like that could ruin Sean's reputation. Corey
Speaker 1: and Janitor Bud were shocked that Sean went out with Dana,
Speaker 1: which says a lot considering Bud has seen dead bodies
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 2: I just love all the Yeah. I wish if we
Speaker 2: could go back and rewrite this episode. I want the
Speaker 2: tag to just be Corey and gender Bud gossiping over
Speaker 2: breakfast together, just having two of them with some coffee
Speaker 2: and muffins, being like. And then Dana said, did you
Speaker 2: hear the latest? Hear the latest? I just want more, Bud.
Speaker 2: I love it so much. The other thing I noticed
Speaker 2: about this the set. I don't know if this is.
Speaker 4: This has probably been there the entire time and I've
Speaker 4: never noticed it. But the door that is next to
Speaker 4: the John Adams high head, the little statue says gymnasium.
Speaker 2: Oh, so the GM is on this floor now? No,
Speaker 2: because it's also where Turner comes out of his room.
Speaker 2: So you're saying the downstage door that is usually Turner's
Speaker 2: classroom above.
Speaker 4: Up stage, yes, above it is now is now it's
Speaker 4: and has that. I don't know if that's been there
Speaker 4: the entire time, but that is now.
Speaker 1: It plains while there's always so many jocks in the hallway.
Speaker 4: Apparently, but that's now the gymnasium or has been the
Speaker 4: whole time.
Speaker 2: I don't know or i'd never seen it before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: never have noticed it. No, me neither. Strange.
Speaker 1: So Corey asks what it was like going out with
Speaker 1: a nice girl, and Sean says he doesn't talk about
Speaker 1: the girls he goes on dates with. Corey retorts, well,
Speaker 1: that's not true. If it wasn't for Sean's stories and
Speaker 1: the little pictures he draws, he wouldn't know nothing.
Speaker 2: I love this dialogue, so funny. Little pictures. I just
Speaker 2: see you drawing little pictures, little stick figures. I absolutely
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: Sean doesn't want to talk about Dana, and he will
Speaker 1: not draw her for Corey. Corey smirks, you must really
Speaker 1: like this girl, and Sean says he likes all girls,
Speaker 1: and so far they've all liked him. And then Dana
Speaker 1: walks down the stairs and asks Sean if she could
Speaker 1: have a word with him in private. Corey's excited and whispers, ooh,
Speaker 1: in private, what could this be? Sean tells him she
Speaker 1: probably wants to finish what we started last night. So
Speaker 1: if I'm late to class fall asleep without me, it's
Speaker 1: just cute.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, why didn't you wait for me? Why
Speaker 1: don't you wait for me to fall asleep? And then
Speaker 1: we're in the school hallway continues nearby. Eric stops mister
Speaker 1: Williams and mister Turner, and I noticed Tony's hair has
Speaker 1: a little like wet slick to back moll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, there is a we all need a haircut
Speaker 2: in this episode. Well that Will needs a haircut. Haircuts
Speaker 2: so bad. It's like we've just come back from hiatus
Speaker 2: and just let us go. It was my hair. I
Speaker 2: bet you this is great after we take because we
Speaker 2: would take a longer break in December. Yeah, and if
Speaker 2: this aired in February and this is coming back, we
Speaker 2: probably had just all been gone for three weeks or
Speaker 2: whatever and our hair.
Speaker 1: Is Why was your hair so long while you were
Speaker 1: just growing it out? You liked it long?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just wanted to keep it growing,
Speaker 4: and so at that point I wanted to get I
Speaker 4: always had this dream of having like, you know, long,
Speaker 4: long hair, but it doesn't work with my hair because
Speaker 4: it's so thick, thick exact, so it just goes, you know,
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of strange, but yeah, I wanted to
Speaker 4: keep growing it out.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Eric asks mister Williams if he can talk to him
Speaker 1: about his journalism paper, forcing mister Williams to prep all right,
Speaker 1: another episode of Eric Matthew's Excuse Theater. Mister Williams tries
Speaker 1: guessing what Eric's excuse will be. You fell behind on
Speaker 1: your car payments and they repossessed your paper by mistake.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Mister Turner wants to join in. I'm seeing a pet
Speaker 1: lying by a road with your term paper in its mouth.
Speaker 1: He can work with them all the time, all the time, constantly.
Speaker 1: You guys work together multiple times.
Speaker 2: All the time. I didn't remember this at all, and
Speaker 2: we were we work together every week. It was so weird.
Speaker 2: Suit jacket is the coolest. He came for it. I
Speaker 2: want that so bad right now. It's got the cool zipper,
Speaker 2: he's got the high button. I was like, yes, this
Speaker 2: is like Alex days there, just looking awesome. I want
Speaker 2: that now.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that's true vintage, that's Sarah Markowitz vintage.
Speaker 2: I love it. But yeah, they work together all the time. Yep,
Speaker 2: you guys, You guys just couldn't stop working together.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Eric clarifies he's not trying to snow them. He's trying
Speaker 1: to turn things around so he can get into college.
Speaker 1: Mister Williams tells him to study. Eric cuts them off
Speaker 1: and says, come on, I'm being serious. Turner brings up
Speaker 1: the news internship at the station and tells Eli he
Speaker 1: should let Eric apply for it to get his hands
Speaker 1: on experience and extra credit. Eric loves the idea of
Speaker 1: interning at a real TV station. He tells mister Williams
Speaker 1: to sign him up. Eli tells him there's only one
Speaker 1: spot available and there will be a lot of competition,
Speaker 1: most of it coming from A students. Eric says all
Speaker 1: of the A students will cancel each other out. He's
Speaker 1: a lock, he thinks, mister Turner for the great suggestion,
Speaker 1: and Eli, annoyed, repeats, yeah, great suggestion, mister Turner. Turner
Speaker 1: says it can't hurt to let Eric take a shot.
Speaker 1: Mister Williams knows these people they're going to scrutinize every application,
Speaker 1: look at grades, SAT scores. Turner exclaims, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: It's television and Eli nods he's a lock. And I
Speaker 1: love the little meta joke about TV TV.
Speaker 2: That's all you need is But I also I also
Speaker 2: love this entire storyline, and it continues into the next
Speaker 2: episode because it's like it really gets at this question
Speaker 2: of like, you know, Eric has other strengths, right, Like
Speaker 2: I like it, It's no longer just Eric's dumb. It's
Speaker 2: like Eric's dumb, but he's also charismatic, he's confident, he's
Speaker 2: good looking, he's got skills, and like questioning whether those
Speaker 2: skills are in fact more valuable than right being having
Speaker 2: an a student or an a track record. I think
Speaker 2: that's a great conflict because I know everybody out there,
Speaker 2: there's all different types of intelligence, there's all different types
Speaker 2: of talent, right and and I just love that that
Speaker 2: it's no longer just do well in me ocuts, you know,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. It's like there's other values at play.
Speaker 2: And I just think it's so great to have the
Speaker 2: same tension like Eric's still trying to get a graduate
Speaker 2: or get into college, but to have complexity to it.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at being a child actor. It's that
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 4: You're you're constantly fighting against adults as and probably rightfully,
Speaker 4: so like have something to fall back on, keep your
Speaker 4: grades up, you've got to keep doing it well. No,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be an actor. Okay, but you're fourteen.
Speaker 4: Who knows if this can be a career. And I
Speaker 4: had this whole thing. When you know my parents, because
Speaker 4: they're old school East Coast lawyer parents, the idea of
Speaker 4: not going to college was crazy to you, like, I
Speaker 4: don't care that you're on a hit show. You're signing
Speaker 4: contracts and deals all over the place. You go to college.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm not going to college. I
Speaker 4: don't know what to tell you. I'm working, I'm doing this,
Speaker 4: I'm not my education. My formal education at eighteen is
Speaker 4: going to be completed. And they couldn't understand that at first,
Speaker 4: and then finally they were like, okay, you probably made
Speaker 4: the right decision where I'm not. I couldn't. For me,
Speaker 4: the right decision was to continue working. I just was
Speaker 4: working all the time. I was doing movies in the hiatus.
Speaker 4: That's what I was doing.
Speaker 2: So this storyline really does reflect it absolutely interest because
Speaker 2: I had these conversations with my parents where I had
Speaker 2: to sit them down again. This was still a hobby.
Speaker 4: My parents knew I was good at it and I
Speaker 4: loved it, and I'm on a national television show. But
Speaker 4: you go to college and then find your career.
Speaker 2: That's what you do.
Speaker 4: So the idea that I had found my career at
Speaker 4: ten and I was now being successful at it, and
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to take four years off from it
Speaker 4: because you hit while you strike while the iron's hot,
Speaker 4: you get one chance to do this. They I had
Speaker 4: to essentially convince them that I wasn't throwing my life
Speaker 4: away by not going to college. To this day, my
Speaker 4: parents still say, are you going back to college? Literally,
Speaker 4: maybe you should consider going back to college, Like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of busy with a lot of the stuff
Speaker 4: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And I have the opposite feeling, like I don't run
Speaker 2: away to college and stop ack date And I often
Speaker 2: go why did I Why did they do that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I coming off a hit TV show at
Speaker 2: the age of twenty, I should have, you know, because
Speaker 2: here I am back in the industry. But for a
Speaker 2: while there, I was like, oh, no, I need to
Speaker 2: need to explore other things. And it's like, well, that
Speaker 2: was four years of not working in the industry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then trying to get back in and then
Speaker 4: trying to get back in the world. Yeah, So it's yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. It's a great storyline. For Eric too, because
Speaker 4: it is you find different strengths in who you are,
Speaker 4: and maybe college isn't for everybody.
Speaker 1: Exactly that's exactly right. Well, then we're back in the
Speaker 1: school hallway and now reunited. After his talk with Dana,
Speaker 1: Sean reveals to Corey, I got a surprising little problem
Speaker 1: with the Dana situation. Corey guesses she wants another date
Speaker 1: and Sean doesn't know how to let her down, and
Speaker 1: Sean ta, she wants another date, all right.
Speaker 2: But with another guy.
Speaker 1: Corey says it's probably some pumped up pretty boy Jack,
Speaker 1: and Sean reveals it's you, and Corey says, huh, I
Speaker 1: was right.
Speaker 2: Okay, this was right. This is the introduction of what became.
Speaker 2: I think this is the first time where Ben has done.
Speaker 1: His huh huh so funny.
Speaker 2: I said this for years. I don't know if we
Speaker 2: said this on camera. For years, Ben and I would,
Speaker 2: so I'm hoping it comes back on camera, but it must. Backstage,
Speaker 2: this was our go to beat. I would say something
Speaker 2: and Ben would go huh and then do this little
Speaker 2: like slipsmack where he goes and oh, and it would
Speaker 2: make us laugh every time. Yeah, So I think I'm
Speaker 2: hoping it comes back on camera, but it's certainly for
Speaker 2: the next five years of working together, he would always
Speaker 2: just go, huh, yeah, I remember making very well.
Speaker 4: I also, I have to say I personally, and you
Speaker 4: might disagree with me.
Speaker 2: I think this is one of your best performances today.
Speaker 4: Yes, so, I absolutely do. I think you were playing
Speaker 4: it on a bunch of different levels. I think you
Speaker 4: were confused by how you were feeling, which played. I
Speaker 4: think the way that then it goes from anger to
Speaker 4: jealousy and you don't even know why.
Speaker 2: I thought this was truly one of your best performances.
Speaker 2: Thank I felt it was super awkward and unfocused. It's
Speaker 2: supposed to be awkward. I guess it's getting awkward. It worked,
Speaker 2: It totally worked, all the hand acting and like we
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean like we'll get into it.
Speaker 2: I think, like the scene where I'm angry at Corey
Speaker 2: is great. The scene with Turner is great. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: some good stuff. There's great. I thought it was really good.
Speaker 1: Other way, yeah, I think it's I think it's really great.
Speaker 1: We're used to seeing Sean in the false confidence. I
Speaker 1: know everything about women. I know everything about women and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly why you're feeling that way, and
Speaker 1: you're feeling this way and she's feeling that way, and
Speaker 1: this for the first time is like a what is this?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Why is she doing that? And why do
Speaker 1: I feel like this? And it's so great to see
Speaker 1: you a little off kilter and still walking with like
Speaker 1: without engaging. Yeah, still engaging, but you're.
Speaker 2: By yourself, which is just right. I guess Sean usually
Speaker 2: isn't processing in real time, so he's processing this entire episode,
Speaker 2: and he's.
Speaker 4: Also processing that he's processing, if that makes sense, where
Speaker 4: you're just that's it is.
Speaker 2: I'm having this feeling exactly. Do you think it's weird? Danielle?
Speaker 4: I have to ask you because I'm asking you as
Speaker 4: the resident woman. Is it strange that Dana goes to Sean,
Speaker 4: who she just had a date with the night before,
Speaker 4: to ask if it's okay to go out with his
Speaker 4: best friend.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's weird.
Speaker 1: I think I think what it shows is a large
Speaker 1: amount of respect for Sean.
Speaker 2: She's still going to do it. She wants to go
Speaker 2: out with her.
Speaker 4: She's letting him know, don't It's very mature very realistic,
Speaker 4: but it's very respectful and mature.
Speaker 1: It is It's exactly what you would hope if your
Speaker 1: children came to you at this age and told you
Speaker 1: this would be the advice you would give them. You
Speaker 1: would say you should, you should let the other person know.
Speaker 1: You don't need their blessing, but.
Speaker 2: Just let them know.
Speaker 1: Just let them know they it would it would be
Speaker 1: nice for them to hear it from you, so that,
Speaker 1: at the very least, when people start talking about it,
Speaker 1: did you hear she went out with Sean. Sean has
Speaker 1: the ability of saying, yes, I'm aware she told me
Speaker 1: about it. It's it's a little like you, that feeling
Speaker 1: of somebody else having inside information that you don't have.
Speaker 2: It takes that away. So it also lends to her
Speaker 2: being a classy, good correct. It goes right in line
Speaker 2: with her being a nice girl. She is not. She
Speaker 2: is not. She's not. There's nothing to dislike about it.
Speaker 2: She's not fast and flashy. Were about to know. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about that. We'll talk about that right now.
Speaker 4: Like the fifties biker girls you walk away from, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're wearing leather jacket.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I wrote here. Leather jacket friend material.
Speaker 2: Stay away from those leather jack on the knights guys
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 4: Leather well, they attract such bad people that they're literally
Speaker 4: stolen from cars.
Speaker 2: Right, what is that? What does that tell you?
Speaker 1: I tell you so, Sean tells Corey, No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this would be good for you.
Speaker 2: She's great, she's funny, she has sexy penmanship.
Speaker 1: Cory asks if she has little hearts over the eyes,
Speaker 1: and Sean says yes. Corey says he loves that, and.
Speaker 2: Sean says, who doesn't. I love that.
Speaker 1: Sean tells Corey to go for it. Cory asks if
Speaker 1: he's sure, and Sean says, yeah, don't worry. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be alone for long. He yells out to
Speaker 1: two girls and leather jackets, Rosy and Gina, who are
Speaker 1: walking by, and they waved to him. He tells Corey
Speaker 1: these are the girls he should be going out with anyway,
Speaker 1: the leather jacket gang.
Speaker 2: Who instantly start the throutle.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no p It's like there's three of
Speaker 4: us are together, exactly crazy.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the one spot in town, one spot.
Speaker 1: So then we are in the Matthew's kitchen Sewan and
Speaker 1: Morgan are standing at an open fridge and Sean asks,
Speaker 1: how do we really know that the light bulb goes
Speaker 1: out when you close the door, and.
Speaker 2: Morgan tells him to get in there and find out.
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I'm not sure how much I
Speaker 4: like what they did with her character.
Speaker 2: Well, she's mean to everybody, but she's just all of
Speaker 2: a sudden really mean the one. But that was the
Speaker 2: way the Lily always was, Like, Morgan always was kind
Speaker 2: of fantastic, and everything she says is like just mean
Speaker 2: everything for.
Speaker 1: Me, this this version of Morgan is very I'm attacking
Speaker 1: you directly, whereas Lily's Morgan, the way they wrote her
Speaker 1: was a little more like just conniving little kid, like oops,
Speaker 1: my barbies burned, like she was always into hijinks, and
Speaker 1: she was. She was a schemer, but she wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: directly attacking. I actually loved the relationship Weasel had with
Speaker 1: Eric where they were actually like friends.
Speaker 2: This just.
Speaker 1: A tax to everyone to Sean. Here, she's mean to Eric.
Speaker 1: Later she's mean to Cory, like she's just mean to everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, but I hear when I saw her on
Speaker 2: screen here I wrote down she's so young. Yeah, you's tiny.
Speaker 2: And I think maybe part of what we're feeling is
Speaker 2: that that Lindsay was so confident and like prepossessed as
Speaker 2: a young person, but when you actually look at her
Speaker 2: on screen, like who, she's very young, and it's I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of cute. I mean, I think it's
Speaker 2: like I've.
Speaker 4: Certainly changed the characters since Lindsay's taken over the part,
Speaker 4: I mean, totally different, durable.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, she's just so tiny, but it's they've
Speaker 6: written her now where it's just like I'm just going
Speaker 6: to be mean every time I open my mouth, and
Speaker 6: it's it's it's a little jarring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: So Amy arrives and tells Morgan it's time for bed,
Speaker 1: and she says she can't go to bed, she's babysitting Sean.
Speaker 1: And then Alan comes down and asks Morgan, you're the
Speaker 1: only one in this house with their own bedroom.
Speaker 2: Why don't you ever use it? And Morgan answers because
Speaker 2: life is short, and Alan responds, so were you go
Speaker 2: to bed? And she leaves.
Speaker 1: Then Alan tells Sean that Corey, who was actually related
Speaker 1: to them, left after dinner, so they wouldn't be offended
Speaker 1: if he did the same. Sean thanks Allan, but says
Speaker 1: he's waited three hours. He might as well wait a
Speaker 1: couple more minutes for Corey to come back from his date.
Speaker 1: Corey will want to talk about it, Buddy to Buddy,
Speaker 1: And this is the first time we get the reference
Speaker 1: of nine o'clock, like a nine o'clock date, and it
Speaker 1: comes back later even with mister Turner, and I thought,
Speaker 1: it's I love that there's like this idea that even
Speaker 1: for grown ups dates and at nine pm exactly.
Speaker 2: It's also interesting our show ended at It's sort of
Speaker 2: like building into the show. Go to bed after the
Speaker 2: show after you do not hang with mister go to sleep.
Speaker 1: That's nice, honey, Amy says, Alan and her will just
Speaker 1: go to sleep now. Buddy to Buddy, and Alan asks,
Speaker 1: why don't we adopt him and at least get the
Speaker 1: tax deduction as they walk upstairs too, and then Corey
Speaker 1: walks in dressed like he just left a tundra, and
Speaker 1: he nonchalantly says hi to Sean, but Sean scolds him,
Speaker 1: you come waltzing in hereafter nine and all I get
Speaker 1: is a hello, and Corey corrects himself, Hello sailor.
Speaker 4: Oh, I remember the first time he said this during
Speaker 4: run through, and it exploded, brought the room down.
Speaker 2: It was so good. It just so random, Hello sailor, sailor.
Speaker 4: So good.
Speaker 1: Sean asks Cory how his date with Dana went, and
Speaker 1: Corey just says it was a date. Sean says, come on,
Speaker 1: I give you more than that, and Corey admits he
Speaker 1: didn't kiss her. Sean stutters and assures him that's okay.
Speaker 1: Sean asks, on a scale of one to ten, how
Speaker 1: much do you like Dana Brewett? Ten being tapanga on
Speaker 1: your first date and one being the lunch room lady
Speaker 1: in a thong, and Corey answers seven, and Sean continues
Speaker 1: with good. And I thought, good, good, Yeah, how was
Speaker 1: that good? Seven seems like a high n high number.
Speaker 4: That's a high number of If topang is ten and
Speaker 4: she's already at a seven, I.
Speaker 1: Thought that seemed like no, no, no, I want you
Speaker 1: at a five. I get that that's still like seven
Speaker 1: out of ten is a C.
Speaker 2: But that's a high C. That's a high almost to yeah.
Speaker 1: If I like Dana Pruitt the way Sean likes Dana Pruitt,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for a five or less.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven would stare me. That's just me.
Speaker 4: He's also in my green sweater, which I had again
Speaker 4: until like a month ago. There's several sweaters, several sweaters
Speaker 4: in this show.
Speaker 2: Remember the sweat and I remember it probably because you
Speaker 2: kept wearing it. I had for years. Yeah, you took
Speaker 2: Ben's wardrobe?
Speaker 4: Is that what? I know that she bought me the
Speaker 4: same one because I was such a good sweater that again.
Speaker 4: I wore that until it had like cigarette burns in
Speaker 4: it and all this stuff the time, and I got
Speaker 4: rid of it.
Speaker 2: I miss it. Corey cuts him off and says, I've
Speaker 2: never seen you act like this, are you Fluey? His
Speaker 2: response is great too, though a little. I really think
Speaker 2: that this episode is seminal in that because I feel
Speaker 2: like this the Ski Lodge or the Phoenix Cabin episode
Speaker 2: tried to begin this this Corey Shawn dynamic, but it
Speaker 2: didn't quite hit the mark. Like in that first scene
Speaker 2: we talked about how I was a little off. This
Speaker 2: is like fire in on all cylinders Corey and Sean
Speaker 2: and and it's it's it's different from what like second
Speaker 2: season did, which was like we're in a scheme together
Speaker 2: and we're like, this is like us actually affecting one another,
Speaker 2: arguing with one another, but still having so much love
Speaker 2: and like we're kind of undermining each other and questioning
Speaker 2: each other, but banter. It's like really really clever banter.
Speaker 2: And there's I think that this remains for the rest
Speaker 2: of the show, and it's something that I didn't realize
Speaker 2: we have. I don't think we've quite seen like working
Speaker 2: on this level. But it's like, you know, our characters
Speaker 2: are fully realized, like who we are is established, and
Speaker 2: then we're sort of in it together and like these
Speaker 2: scenes and this will continue for the rest of the show,
Speaker 2: these sort of like but what did you do? And
Speaker 2: what did you think? And we're like at each other,
Speaker 2: but it's with so much friendship and it's it's just
Speaker 2: it felt so comfortable to me. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a huge component of the show has really
Speaker 2: just arrived and it's working perfectly. And he continues from
Speaker 2: that throughout the rest of this episode and the next
Speaker 2: one percent.
Speaker 1: And it does also feel, like I said I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: it's you if you feel like you're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of talk therapy with yourself, this is such a perfect
Speaker 1: example of how friends can make the best therapists for
Speaker 1: you by you just talking something out and then questioning
Speaker 1: you are you feeling okay? Well, I do have a tickle,
Speaker 1: but that's not what this is. Something else is going on. No,
Speaker 1: stay on track, and thank you for asking, because that
Speaker 1: also could have been it. Maybe I'm not but like,
Speaker 1: so it's really just like holding each other accountable in
Speaker 1: the nicest, most respectful, supportive way, like we'll get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of this together.
Speaker 2: It's it is really it's fun to watch.
Speaker 4: It's also interesting that they finally found this voice when
Speaker 4: Sean's driving everything and not Corey, which is also kind
Speaker 4: of a.
Speaker 2: Well I think it takes pressure off of Corey, right.
Speaker 2: It allows Corey to be the sort of anxious, upset,
Speaker 2: freaked out, neurotic guide, which is what's so much so funny.
Speaker 2: I allows Sean to be the one being like, but
Speaker 2: I'm confused and like and when we're both in a
Speaker 2: state of you know, anxiety, it creates good comedy. Anxiety
Speaker 2: is comedy, right, Like, it's so fun That's why I'm
Speaker 2: so funny. It's true.
Speaker 1: Man, Corey smiles and says, I think you're coming down
Speaker 1: with a bad case of Dana. Sean admits, knowing you
Speaker 1: were out with Dana, I just kept wanting to take
Speaker 1: the carving knife and stab you in the head. Which
Speaker 1: beautiful you'd say it. You don't say it like you're angry.
Speaker 1: You say it like, so what does that mean?
Speaker 2: So what is all of that all about? And then
Speaker 2: you also say no offense, funny, no offense that I
Speaker 2: wanted to kill you with a carving knife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Sean then asks, so it's okay if I
Speaker 1: ask her out, and Corey says he'll stab him in
Speaker 1: the head if he doesn't. Sean smiles and says, you're
Speaker 1: good people. What a great beautiful scene between the tests.
Speaker 1: So then we're in the school hallway. Eric yells out
Speaker 1: to another student, Hey, Aretie. The boy clarifies it's Arthur.
Speaker 1: Eric tells him they're up for the same internship, and
Speaker 1: Arthur says, I'm a straight a student. My documentaries have
Speaker 1: garnered multiple film festival honors, and I have a letter
Speaker 1: of recommendations from letter of recommendation from Ted Turner.
Speaker 2: Arthur boasts I.
Speaker 1: Can walk in without pants and get this job, and then,
Speaker 1: in a very funny joke, as Arthur walks away.
Speaker 2: Eric yells, I've seen you in Jim class wear pants.
Speaker 4: Wear pants in my sweater. This is the second sweater
Speaker 4: that I had until like a month ago. Oh and
Speaker 4: I remember him always getting a laugh and trying not
Speaker 4: to break every time in the way he said Ted.
Speaker 2: Turner, Ted Turner like he was just so perfect the
Speaker 2: way he was doing that. He was very funny. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad you got rid of these clothes. I remember
Speaker 2: them ten years ago. We Shiloh was my brother. Shiloh
Speaker 2: was dating somebody, and this must have been more than
Speaker 2: ten years ago, because I think you were kind of
Speaker 2: flirting with another another. Do you remember Katie? Shiloh was
Speaker 2: dating Katie, So this is like, oh gosh, this has
Speaker 2: got to be like fifteen years ago. Anyway, one of
Speaker 2: her friends was like interested in you, and you guys
Speaker 2: had like this night where the four of you went
Speaker 2: out or it was like a party or something, and
Speaker 2: she like turned to Katie. She's like, he's wearing a
Speaker 2: sweater from the TV show. It was like ten years
Speaker 2: after the show. She was like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I can take that serious.
Speaker 7: Close recognized it to recognize that will in real life
Speaker 7: was wearing his wardrobe from Boy Meets World like I
Speaker 7: was after the fact, and it was like time to
Speaker 7: move on, man, you gotta I gotta get a new
Speaker 7: set of clothes.
Speaker 1: Well, next time you get rid of a sweater from
Speaker 1: the show, could you at least let me know, because
Speaker 1: I kind of want to keep one of Will's sweaters
Speaker 1: from the show.
Speaker 2: And now they're all gone. I'm married. I think the
Speaker 2: sweaters go away, right, Yeah, I still want one.
Speaker 1: If you find any in a box, I will let
Speaker 1: me know in a box somewhere in.
Speaker 2: A box nearby.
Speaker 1: Sean walks over to Dana, who's sitting at a table
Speaker 1: promoting the Blood Drive. Yeah you do, She asks if
Speaker 1: he's signing up, and Sean drops a giant paper bag
Speaker 1: on the table, saying, way ahead of you blood. Dana
Speaker 1: opens it and asks where he got it. Sean says,
Speaker 1: I went down to my uncle Louis butcher shop this morning.
Speaker 1: Dana clarifies they're collecting human blood.
Speaker 2: Sean says, it's human. It's from Louise's arms. He gives
Speaker 2: all the time. He didn't even know. I took it,
Speaker 2: just very vital. I think this is funny, but it
Speaker 2: just made me very uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm not cool with
Speaker 2: like blood jokes and jokes. I was suddenly like, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's funny banter, but man, it made
Speaker 2: me uncomfortable. Why. I don't know. I think I have
Speaker 2: a thing with like blood in meat and like no.
Speaker 4: No from the conventions covered in blood.
Speaker 2: I like it in horror films. I like it when
Speaker 2: it's like actually treated like blood, but when it's like
Speaker 2: a joke and with the pork chops.
Speaker 1: No, And then we're in the school cafeteria. Corey asks Sean,
Speaker 1: so she really said you're not boyfriend material. Sean, nodding
Speaker 1: his head, admits he really liked her. Corey is surprised
Speaker 1: because she seems like the type of girl that he'd
Speaker 1: end up with a concern. Sean asks if Corey's saying
Speaker 1: he can't end up with nice girls, and Cory says, no,
Speaker 1: calm down. I would love to go out with some
Speaker 1: of the girls you go out with, but I can't
Speaker 1: because I'm stuck being the nice guy, and all those
Speaker 1: girls want from me is directions to you. Sean asks
Speaker 1: Cory what he means by those girls, and Corey says sexy, hot, flashy,
Speaker 1: the kind of girls I've never gone out with in
Speaker 1: my life. And on cue, Tipega walks up, hearing what
Speaker 1: Corey said, and so he clarifies except one time.
Speaker 2: Except one time, Corey turns. It's very funny.
Speaker 1: Corey turns to Tapega and says, hello, Flashy. She tells
Speaker 1: him it's a okay. She's happy to be thought of
Speaker 1: as a nice girl. And then I love that you're
Speaker 1: drinking a Martin Nelly's apple juice. It's been added to
Speaker 1: the school menu along.
Speaker 2: With her off your red juice. Awesome red drink. It
Speaker 2: was it would be too weird with the blood conversation. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: drink in the red drink. Now you get Martin Nelly's
Speaker 2: apple juice.
Speaker 4: They just figured out the red dyes of carcinogen, so
Speaker 4: they just shelves.
Speaker 2: For a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I're wigged.
Speaker 1: Ta Panka tells Sean if this has anything to do
Speaker 1: with Dana Pruitt. I don't have all the information yet.
Speaker 1: I've only been to the bathroom three times this morning.
Speaker 1: Corey asks, so Topanga, as the hottest and flashiest girl
Speaker 1: of the Nice Girl camp, would you ever consider going
Speaker 1: out with Sean. Tapega smirks at Sean and says, well,
Speaker 1: he'd have to ask me. Sean asks Tapanga, would you
Speaker 1: ever consider going out with me? And she says no.
Speaker 1: Sean wants to know why. Topanga asks if he wants
Speaker 1: the truth, and he says, yeah, I want the truth.
Speaker 1: Tapanga tells him you couldn't handle the truth. Sean and
Speaker 1: Corey both tell her he can handle the truth, and
Speaker 1: this is clearly boy meets World.
Speaker 2: Nod to the movie, A few good men, got it?
Speaker 1: Tapanga asks Corey, so you'll take responsibility for how he
Speaker 1: feels about it. Corey tells her absolutely. Tapanga looks at
Speaker 1: Sean and says, you don't understand women. You don't know
Speaker 1: what we are, how we feel, or what we think.
Speaker 1: You see us as dating objects, and the faster we are,
Speaker 1: the more you want us. Until you grow up and
Speaker 1: see beyond that, no matter how many girls you go
Speaker 1: out with, you will always be lonely.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's a great speech. Great, great, you are so
Speaker 4: good in this sea on you. It's a great speech
Speaker 4: and you're delivering perfectly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy with where Tapanga has landed as a
Speaker 2: character and where you've landed as an actor. It just works.
Speaker 2: It's like this, yeah, this confidence. I mean you, you're
Speaker 2: like a thirty five year old woman in this seed.
Speaker 2: I know, it's amazing. It's so great.
Speaker 1: It's like a real I was very happy with it too,
Speaker 1: and I never say that, so I was very happy
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: I thought that thought that was that felt really good.
Speaker 1: I also wish we got to see more of these moments,
Speaker 1: and maybe we do moving forward, maybe there are more
Speaker 1: moments like this where Tapanga is just a wise friend
Speaker 1: to the boys, part of the gang and part of
Speaker 1: the gang. Because I love this dynamic where she's not
Speaker 1: Cory's girlfriend, but she's still part of their group and
Speaker 1: somebody they trust and can count on to give them
Speaker 1: helpful advice.
Speaker 2: I really I love this.
Speaker 4: I do too, But it won't last because you belong together.
Speaker 2: That's why. Well we'll see.
Speaker 1: I don't know for I don't know how many more
Speaker 1: episodes we have before we eventually get back together.
Speaker 2: So let's see. Let's see how long this goes.
Speaker 1: Sean looks like a deer in the headlights and Sean
Speaker 1: asks Corey, you let her say that to me. Corey
Speaker 1: tells him she's lying, Topanga tell Sean, look at yourself.
Speaker 1: You go from girl to girl, and that makes anyone
Speaker 1: who'd consider a relationship with you afraid of getting hurt.
Speaker 1: Every girl thinks you'll eventually get bored and move on.
Speaker 1: Seawan's taken aback and says.
Speaker 2: Wow, they know, I know. Yep, so so good. It's great.
Speaker 2: You were all great in the scene, all three of you.
Speaker 2: This was a very boy meets world.
Speaker 4: Perfect dialogue, well delivered, shows a new dynamic.
Speaker 2: It was a very very good scene. Yeah, we all
Speaker 2: seem older. Her characters are allowed to age up a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: We feel settled. Yeah, we also don't feel panicky. There's
Speaker 1: no we feel like really comfortable. There was some I
Speaker 1: mean for me especially. That's what I'm noticing is like
Speaker 1: the the there was like anxiety behind my eyes.
Speaker 2: Maybe you finally had a contract, Maybe I had a
Speaker 2: contract you want to give you. I felt welcomed. I
Speaker 2: don't all that anymore.
Speaker 4: I also think I think we can put a lot
Speaker 4: of that at Jeff McCracken. I think McCracken always did
Speaker 4: his best to make us just feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: We owned the scenes. Yes, he felt like ours as
Speaker 2: an actor.
Speaker 4: He wanted it's like, no, why do you That was
Speaker 4: the first time of having actor conversations with somebody.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling? What do you want to do?
Speaker 2: We were moving away with this scene. We were moving
Speaker 2: away from being line delivery systems instead agents of our
Speaker 2: own uh or we're just having our own agency, right,
Speaker 2: like we could engage in these scenes. And yeah, and
Speaker 2: and like WEP pointed out earlier, Sean is anxious, Sean
Speaker 2: is destabilized, and that's okay, Like stay in that and
Speaker 2: like play the scene out with that feeling.
Speaker 4: It's really McCracken really encouraged that every week. I mean
Speaker 4: that was really just started to feel comfortable. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh I can oh, okay, I can do this. It's
Speaker 4: not just kissing covering Zichy. You can figure out what
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great with that stuff.
Speaker 1: So then we're in the news station, know what all.
Speaker 1: Arthur walks out of his interview and the news director
Speaker 1: thanks him for coming down. He was very impressive. She admits,
Speaker 1: I don't know whether to offer you the internship or
Speaker 1: my job. Arthur asks if she has his resume, and
Speaker 1: she laughs and flips through a booklet, saying I'll finish
Speaker 1: it this weekend. Eric, sitting nearby, looks down at his
Speaker 1: own resume and reads box Boy at Daddy's Store, and
Speaker 1: then he changes it to headbox Head, and he gets
Speaker 1: nervous they'll check, so he crumples it and throws it out.
Speaker 1: I love this, Eric, Eric and Arthur greet each other
Speaker 1: in a very Seinfeld Newman way, total so funny, and
Speaker 1: Eric hustles over to the interview or just as she's
Speaker 1: closing the door. Excuse me, ma'am, I believe I have
Speaker 1: an interview, he says Eric Matthews, and she laughs, asking.
Speaker 2: There really isn't Eric Matthews.
Speaker 1: So that resume Eli sent over wasn't a Joe. She
Speaker 1: catches herself in motions to come in her office.
Speaker 4: Tony and I were so excited that she was on
Speaker 4: our show. Oh yeah, because we were huge fans of
Speaker 4: the Abyss and we had.
Speaker 2: Just was she was one night in the Abyss. Yes,
Speaker 2: So we were so we were so excited.
Speaker 4: We run our laser dis and he signed contest and
Speaker 4: we sat there and we kept she was she was
Speaker 4: a trooper because we were peppering her with questions about
Speaker 4: about the movie and we were so so good and
Speaker 4: make a disaster shoot, like have you ever watched the
Speaker 4: behind the.
Speaker 2: Scenes Exac's why Ed Harris like almost died. They just
Speaker 2: they took a big like tank and covered it with
Speaker 2: like black golf ball, so like the whole so we
Speaker 2: looked like Dark one Day is insane. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's one of the craziest shoots of all time.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't he didn't yet, Key, he had it perfectly timed,
Speaker 4: yell cut at the right time, and he just held
Speaker 4: them back.
Speaker 2: So Ed Harris is panicking underwatch.
Speaker 4: But we're asking her all these questions and she was
Speaker 4: so nice and answering every stupid fan question we had.
Speaker 2: That was one of the first movies that I remember.
Speaker 2: The Laser Disc had the alternative alternative directors ending, which
Speaker 2: was so much better, and I remember you guys being like,
Speaker 2: you have to watch the Laser disc version, not the HS.
Speaker 2: And so we went to Dave's Laser place and got
Speaker 2: the Loser this and I watched it obsessively. It was
Speaker 2: so much better, so much better. We were just.
Speaker 4: We were over the moon that she was on our show,
Speaker 4: and she was so sweet and oh man, we were
Speaker 4: just throwing questions at her the whole week. She must
Speaker 4: have just been so happy to get away from us
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. But man, it was great.
Speaker 8: Yeah, totally, it's so cute.
Speaker 2: So then we're in Phoenie's classroom. Foenie is back to teaching.
Speaker 1: He's telling students that if press coverage of past politicians
Speaker 1: had been as invasive as it is today, such men
Speaker 1: as Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy might have never been
Speaker 1: elected president. How timely even for today, Sean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Give me Phoene teaching in front of a classroom everything
Speaker 4: every day, I know, I know, so comforting.
Speaker 2: Just to have scene it's great. This is like just
Speaker 2: such good writing, right, Like have kids debating a historical subject,
Speaker 2: but have it be about personal relationships and they're like
Speaker 2: having it's so good. I love it, Yes, and I
Speaker 2: love that. Phoene's reaction is like, great, let's involve this, like,
Speaker 2: let's welcome personal life stuff. He can he knows what's
Speaker 2: going on, but he's still excited because it means we're
Speaker 2: engaging with the subject matter.
Speaker 1: Oh see, it's exactly Season one stuff we loved where
Speaker 1: the storyline exactly but aged up and it is it's
Speaker 1: so so beautiful. Sean asks mister Foene if he would
Speaker 1: consider John Kennedy a great president, to which Phoene says,
Speaker 1: his time in office was short, but he accomplished a
Speaker 1: great deal.
Speaker 2: Sean follows up.
Speaker 1: The fact that he was a babe magnet didn't make
Speaker 1: him any less great, did it, and Dana answers, in
Speaker 1: a lot of people's eyes, it did less of a husband,
Speaker 1: less of a leader, and all the girls in the
Speaker 1: room agree. Phoene says, well, I think we've heard from
Speaker 1: the women. What do you think, mister hunter. Sean says,
Speaker 1: all I know is it's not easy for a guy
Speaker 1: to change who he is. All the boys now audibly
Speaker 1: agree with Sean, and Dana responds, you can't change if
Speaker 1: you don't try. Sean tells her, I can't try unless
Speaker 1: you give me a chance. Phoene sees that Sean has
Speaker 1: spurred a debate and now wants to hear everyone's opinions
Speaker 1: in an essay do tomorrow. All the students grown angry
Speaker 1: at Sean, and the bell rings. Dana gets up and
Speaker 1: leaves without even looking back at Sean.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite se though, is still the you've
Speaker 2: sparked a debate fine, when's detention like he's obviously thought
Speaker 2: he did something wrong where it's just so great cute, right,
Speaker 2: I finally talked and that's what and that's what happened. Fine,
Speaker 2: when's detention so good?
Speaker 1: Then we're back at the news station. Eric walks out
Speaker 1: of his interview, sweating. You are dripping like a pig,
Speaker 1: you say, you know Ms Cannon Your office is mighty
Speaker 1: mighty hut, she responds, and it was mighty mighty nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. He asks, I'm not gonnading this internship,
Speaker 1: am I? And she says, well, everyone has a chance.
Speaker 1: Eric eagerly asks really, and she droyly says, I don't
Speaker 1: do this to me.
Speaker 2: Time for this Eric.
Speaker 1: Eric then stands in front of a news camera pretending
Speaker 1: to be a reporter. This just in Eric Matthews is
Speaker 1: a huge loser. A man cleaning up nearby overhears him
Speaker 1: and asks why he's a loser. Eric apologizes and says
Speaker 1: he'll get out of his way. The man asks if
Speaker 1: Eric was here for the internship. Eric says yes, but
Speaker 1: he blew it because he wasn't himself. Although straight a
Speaker 1: guys want is something to put on their resume, he
Speaker 1: really wanted the gig ms. Cannon doesn't know this, but
Speaker 1: I do that job so much better than any of
Speaker 1: them because I need it more.
Speaker 2: The man asks did you tell her that? And Eric
Speaker 2: admits no, it choked.
Speaker 1: In front of the most important person at the station,
Speaker 1: and the man reveals no, he didn't. Yeah I did,
Speaker 1: Eric says, I was sweating so much my shoes started
Speaker 1: to squish. The man laughs and tells him, no, I
Speaker 1: meant she's not the most important person at the station.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I love the behavior of Eric just cleaning up,
Speaker 2: being a good intern. Like it's it's perfect writing. Yes,
Speaker 2: because it's like you you see it coming, I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's very obvious, you know, you know's it's so
Speaker 2: good because it pays off. And this man I don't
Speaker 2: know his name, is such a good actor, what a presence,
Speaker 2: and like you just don't see this often, Brandon Maggert. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's good, and he's so relaxed and he doesn't I
Speaker 2: feel like often, you know, people with smaller parts guests
Speaker 2: staring on sitcoms have to be a goofy character or
Speaker 2: a villain character or something, and he just just just
Speaker 2: a guy, just a good guy. And he engages with
Speaker 2: you and he's listening to you such a solid acting performance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's great, and Eric laughs.
Speaker 1: He says, hey, pal, I know coffee's really important and everything.
Speaker 1: But the man introduces himself as Pat Derby, the station manager.
Speaker 1: He says he's shaking the hand of his new intern.
Speaker 1: I'll see you Monday. Be yourself or I'll fire you.
Speaker 1: Eric is shocked, saying, oh oh oh, yes, sir, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, sir, I'll be here. Just before he leaves,
Speaker 1: he turns and asks the man, before I go home
Speaker 1: and tell my parents, do you have a business card
Speaker 1: in a photo ID?
Speaker 2: And I even love.
Speaker 1: That aspect of this for Eric that in every other
Speaker 1: episode we've ever seen, he just hears something and runs
Speaker 1: home with it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a supermodel. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: a this And.
Speaker 1: Even as far as seeing him learn from his past mistakes,
Speaker 1: I'm going to need to verify this with my I'm
Speaker 1: going to need to show my parent I'm going to
Speaker 1: have to have something. I just love this evolution for
Speaker 1: Eric that for this job, for this thing, this is
Speaker 1: clearly where he's dialed in and I just think it's great.
Speaker 2: Guys. As we go through this scene by scene, this
Speaker 2: is becoming a much better episode than I actually thought.
Speaker 2: It's breaking down each scene, it's they're each really tight, strong,
Speaker 2: like there's there's there's journeys, there's changes. It's really a
Speaker 2: solid episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, I think I think maybe my resistance to this
Speaker 2: episode just comes out of, you know, the whole nice
Speaker 2: girl versus is flashy girl thing, which is just it
Speaker 2: seems like such an oversimplification and it's very reductive. But
Speaker 2: where it ends up is very good, you know, like
Speaker 2: it wrestles with that. But I just I get I
Speaker 2: just had a hard time with characters just outright being like, well,
Speaker 2: that's who this girl is, that's who that guy is.
Speaker 2: It's just like uh, but I guess as a launching point,
Speaker 2: you kind of have to be that clear in order
Speaker 2: to get to the nuance. But I wish there's a
Speaker 2: way to have had the same storyline without saying like
Speaker 2: like the flashy girls and the leather jackets, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's it's it's reductive.
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you, but I also think when
Speaker 1: you are a kid and you're learning how to categorize
Speaker 1: the world, right, the more simple the better, because truly,
Speaker 1: if you present to children it's all gray, everyone's all gray,
Speaker 1: then why not go they just lost? Then why not
Speaker 1: hang out with with this, with the druggy kids. Why
Speaker 1: not hang out with the kids who carry weapons to school?
Speaker 1: You know they're good people too, Like you, you do
Speaker 1: have to start create categorizations and boundaries and and and
Speaker 1: put your kid in and they for themselves have to
Speaker 1: figure out where do I feel good, Where do I
Speaker 1: fit in?
Speaker 2: What feels what feels like? There are categories when you're
Speaker 2: that age.
Speaker 4: You're the jock, or you're the you're the stoner, you're
Speaker 4: the skater, you're the goth kid. There are there's like
Speaker 4: that's what your pigeon holed into, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: So if that's true anymore, I think it was definitely
Speaker 2: true back then.
Speaker 4: Back then, back in the nineties. I mean that's how
Speaker 4: it was. That you were just that's you had your
Speaker 4: click and that's all it was. So you were the
Speaker 4: and and the girls that kissed or maybe fooled around,
Speaker 4: they were they were considered the fast girls.
Speaker 2: That's obviously not what they were called.
Speaker 4: But everyone was putting those categories instantly, And you spend
Speaker 4: the next three years of high school, trying to, you know,
Speaker 4: fight against whatever category you were put in or falling
Speaker 4: into it where it's like I'm a jock, I'm a
Speaker 4: I'm a skater, I'm a goth.
Speaker 2: That's all. It kind of was. So I think they're
Speaker 2: picking up on that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for for a show, it is
Speaker 1: the perfect way to deliver a lesson you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's so I really like it.
Speaker 2: Then we're into Turner's apartment.
Speaker 1: Sean and Corey, dressed again for a blizzard, walk through
Speaker 1: the door. Just as Corey assures Sean, don't let what
Speaker 1: Tapega said bother you. If I listen to everything to
Speaker 1: Pega told me, Sean interrupts and says, you guys would
Speaker 1: still be together. Corey shouts at him, then what are
Speaker 1: you listening to me for? Corey fills Turner in by
Speaker 1: saying Dana Preuitt. Turner responds, nice girl. Then Corey says
Speaker 1: Sean Hunter, Turner says, Corey goes, all right, you're caught
Speaker 1: up to speed.
Speaker 2: My work here is done. Wish me luck. I'm going
Speaker 2: out back out in the blizzard with one minute with
Speaker 2: one mitten. Oh so great, just perfect, Corey and there's
Speaker 2: Turner doing what Turner does, which snap and green vegetables
Speaker 2: of green vegetables, vegetables at that table in a nice
Speaker 2: sweater that I love it. I love the snap and
Speaker 2: bean business. It's really great.
Speaker 1: Turner asks Sean if he's okay, and Sean says, I
Speaker 1: really like Dana John and I'm pretty sure that she
Speaker 1: likes me, but she's afraid to get involved with me.
Speaker 2: And Turner asks, can we just go back and talk
Speaker 2: about that horrific hat I walk in with When we
Speaker 2: walk in, I'm wearing I think, what's sort of like
Speaker 2: a remember the kangle hats like, but it's like a
Speaker 2: coofy one. It's like a reddish like it just goes
Speaker 2: straight up and I'm like, what is it? Like, Yes,
Speaker 2: it is again, I just rip it off. I'm like, yeah, good,
Speaker 2: good move, writer, Get that thing off of your head.
Speaker 4: Geez. Do you know the pompon pompons on top of
Speaker 4: hats were actually functional? They're actually they were actually used
Speaker 4: by uh Spanish merchants in ships, so if they stood
Speaker 4: up too fast and they hit their head on the
Speaker 4: beam of the ship, they have something protect.
Speaker 2: A little patty whoa. I love that functional. There you go.
Speaker 2: Look at that. Uh.
Speaker 1: Turner asks the Hunter reputation, huh, and Sean tells him
Speaker 1: I used to be so proud of it. And then
Speaker 1: Corey walks back in saying I lost my other mitten?
Speaker 2: Did he lose his other? Right there? His jacket to him,
Speaker 2: I love it. I didn't notice it. Don't mind me,
Speaker 2: I'll just look.
Speaker 1: Sean asks Turner, what was I even thinking asking out
Speaker 1: a girl like Dana Brewett. I know exactly where I
Speaker 1: belong back with all those fast, flashy girls. Corey interrupts,
Speaker 1: still searching for that mitten. It was blue, fuzzy Sean
Speaker 1: and Turner just look at him. Turner tells Sean, you know,
Speaker 1: it seems to me the people you care most about
Speaker 1: in the world aren't fast and flashy. Right on time,
Speaker 1: Corey interrupts again, Hey, look, it's the scarf of mine
Speaker 1: I lost last year. And I feel like Turner would
Speaker 1: have lifted his couch cushions last year. I feel like
Speaker 1: he would have seen that.
Speaker 4: The little benisms, the little bet like when he puts
Speaker 4: the scarf and he goes yes, like he's got he
Speaker 4: has all these little bend things that.
Speaker 1: Are also love that he does it like with a
Speaker 1: scarf where it has some weight where he tries to
Speaker 1: swing it around his neck and it doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: It just like barely lofts up into the air. Yes,
Speaker 2: so turns this is perfect. This is perfect writing. Right,
Speaker 2: you have like this expositional conversation going on, punctuated by
Speaker 2: comic relief with Corey. It's perfect because it's release valve.
Speaker 2: And then of course it comes around into the exposition
Speaker 2: where Turner's like, this is the relationship where you actually
Speaker 2: listen to each other, and it's like, wow, good writing,
Speaker 2: just so so perfect.
Speaker 1: Turner, looking at Corey, says, you see this guy right here,
Speaker 1: this is your best relationship. You guys listen to each
Speaker 1: other and you really trust each other. Sean asks, that's
Speaker 1: what girls are looking for, and Turner says, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: especially the nice ones. Sean says, that's funny because Dan
Speaker 1: is the only girl I've ever really listened to. Turner
Speaker 1: asks if she knows that, Sean says he can tell her.
Speaker 1: Turner tells him to do even better, show her.
Speaker 2: Great, great lesson. That's great, wonderful.
Speaker 1: Cory on Zips's jacket and his mitten is in there.
Speaker 1: He had it the whole time, wouldn't you know it?
Speaker 1: He tells the guys you gotta love Velcrow huh. And
Speaker 1: it's my favorite Corey. Yeah, absolutely my favorite Corey right here.
Speaker 1: This is who he should be forever. And then we're
Speaker 1: in Chubby's. Corey is playing pool when Dana walks over
Speaker 1: and says, hi. Cory says, normally I'd be playing pool
Speaker 1: with my best friend, but he's off, who knows where,
Speaker 1: moping because some girl played yo yo with his feelings.
Speaker 1: Dana says, Corey, you know what his reputation is. Corey
Speaker 1: says he knows the reputation, but he also knows the guy.
Speaker 1: He asks her what's more important, Dana, the reputation or
Speaker 1: the guy. Corey explains, you went out with me because
Speaker 1: you thought I was nice. That's my reputation. But now
Speaker 1: I think you know the deep down. Corey Matthews is dangerous, dark,
Speaker 1: and very edgy.
Speaker 2: It's perfect.
Speaker 1: Corey great Man comes over the intercom, announcing with the
Speaker 1: owner of a bright red hypoallergenic ski jacket with one mitten,
Speaker 1: please claim it at the counter.
Speaker 2: Corey looks at Dana and says, oh, I gotta go.
Speaker 2: He runs away. Perfect right then where I think he
Speaker 2: sunk the eight ball with his first show, he did it.
Speaker 2: I went back. I don't think it actually is the
Speaker 2: eight ball, but it was so distracted. I was like,
Speaker 2: could they have picked another ball because it just looks
Speaker 2: like the four is the purple one for Because I
Speaker 2: went back and I was like, there's no way they
Speaker 2: would have let that go unless maybe that's the joke
Speaker 2: he thinks he's just sinking. Was so distracting for me.
Speaker 2: That's funny. Then we're outside of Chubby's.
Speaker 1: It's the first time since the Jungle Rave Dana is
Speaker 1: walking out snow.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I love fakes, beautiful fakes. It's so fun. They have
Speaker 2: to they have to sift it above you. They usually
Speaker 2: have these big like turning turning wheels, bitter metals like
Speaker 2: drums basically that are that that just like what you
Speaker 2: used to sift flour into a recipe. But it's shaking
Speaker 2: out the snow. It's so fun.
Speaker 4: I just used to be asbestos. Didn't fake snow. Used
Speaker 4: to be something really really bad for you.
Speaker 2: The inmates from the audience, you know what, you.
Speaker 4: Know what, don't start with me, don't start with me.
Speaker 4: Why don't you send me a link to go buy
Speaker 4: fake snow.
Speaker 2: Just sprinkle disgust us. They're just all over us by googling.
Speaker 2: No not not not the like in like the sixties
Speaker 2: and the seventies. I would not know when we were no, no, no.
Speaker 4: I think by that point they figured it out, but
Speaker 4: it was bad back in the day.
Speaker 2: Well. I remember when signing my first contract for Lama's Robb,
Speaker 2: I had to sign away that I was okay with
Speaker 2: the fake fog that they used on stage. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure what I was signing the way was that I
Speaker 2: could I'll never sue your this toxic. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: a very specific smell that you don't get anymore on
Speaker 2: live stations. But used to be they would still use
Speaker 2: the same stuff. And I would go to see like
Speaker 2: other productions of plays now and if they used that
Speaker 2: that fake fog, I would smell in the audience and
Speaker 2: be like taken right back to being nine ten and
Speaker 2: being in LEAMZ. There you go, cancerous lungs, dangerous asbestos,
Speaker 2: created Christmas of Hollywood's paths. Wow, so yep it yep.
Speaker 2: And they stopped using it in twenty ten, exactly. No,
Speaker 2: it was like I said, the early part of the
Speaker 2: twentieth century. So yes, it was all all asbestos.
Speaker 1: So Dana is walking out. She's greeted by Sean, who
Speaker 1: set up a picnic in the snow. He admits this
Speaker 1: seemed like a better idea before my lips froze, and
Speaker 1: I thought he they my one little tiny critique. I
Speaker 1: wish they would have used fingers, because the lips again
Speaker 1: made me think that he was talking about wanting to
Speaker 1: kiss her. Kis sir and I and I was like,
Speaker 1: he's here to prove to her that he listens to her,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want there to be any sort of
Speaker 1: lip talk. I wish until my fingers froze, or my
Speaker 1: toes froze, or until she's talking.
Speaker 2: About blood again.
Speaker 1: Something yeah, something something covered in blood. You know, writers,
Speaker 1: everything I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is there I have a I have a technical question
Speaker 4: about creating a television show, and I'm not even sure
Speaker 4: this is possible. Is there a way to fake breath,
Speaker 4: like you're outside in the cold so you can see
Speaker 4: your breath?
Speaker 2: Is there a way to that you can fake that?
Speaker 2: There's a way to reduce it. So what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do if you're in real cold weather, you're supposed
Speaker 2: to have ice cubes in your mouth. So actors for years,
Speaker 2: if they weren't supposed to be cold and it was
Speaker 2: like cold enough that you could see your breath would
Speaker 2: have to put ice cubes in their mouth to act.
Speaker 2: I never had to do that, but like, if it
Speaker 2: was not supposed to be too cold. But now they
Speaker 2: add it digitally.
Speaker 4: Let's just say the way. But back then, was there
Speaker 4: a way to fake the breath to make it look
Speaker 4: like it's cold.
Speaker 2: Maybe give you a cigarette. I've done it. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that scene because that's happened. I really I remember
Speaker 2: shooting this scene was was really tough. I remember it
Speaker 2: kind of broke down the set and I can't figure
Speaker 2: out why exactly, but there was a lot of yelling.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of tension on set at one point,
Speaker 2: I remember because so Larissa and I had the same
Speaker 2: manager at the time, and he was also my acting
Speaker 2: teacher and coach, and at one point I went off
Speaker 2: the set and talked to him, and everybody got upset. Michael,
Speaker 2: that you that you talk to him. Yes, that I
Speaker 2: would ever talk to somebody else outside of our crew
Speaker 2: about the scene was like this big no, no, and
Speaker 2: like it became this big power play to like get
Speaker 2: him off the set, and like I remember, you know,
Speaker 2: it was probably because Michael felt threatened that this guy
Speaker 2: was both Larissa and my manager. But it was like
Speaker 2: I remember it being big drama and like, did you
Speaker 2: ask him an acting question? I think, like talking about
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I was like he was
Speaker 2: probably just like how's it going? What do you think?
Speaker 2: Like could I do it this way? Or you know,
Speaker 2: like this is a guy who I worked on acting
Speaker 2: from the age of eleven on, and so it seemed
Speaker 2: you know, but I mean in retrospect that is probably
Speaker 2: slightly inappropriate, but it's also like whatever, it gets the
Speaker 2: scene done, you know, But I think it was it
Speaker 2: was more about like that Michael felt like he couldn't
Speaker 2: control the scene that you know, that I was maybe
Speaker 2: getting outside advice was like a big deal. And I
Speaker 2: don't think he was allowed on the set after that, really, yeah,
Speaker 2: not on stage. Yeah, it was it was a thing. Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, Sean pulls out his thermos and offers Danta some
Speaker 1: hot soup. He pours it out, but it's frozen solid.
Speaker 1: Dane asks Sean what he's doing. He says, I remembered
Speaker 1: you said you like picnics, so I figured, why wait
Speaker 1: till spring? Besides, did you know that in winter picnic
Speaker 1: baskets are like a million percent off? Sean says, look, Dana,
Speaker 1: you say I'm not boyfriend material, and maybe I'm not,
Speaker 1: but why won't you give me a chance to try.
Speaker 2: Dane admits I'm afraid of you.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe you can't understand that, but I'm afraid of you,
Speaker 1: and Sean tells her I'm afraid of you too. It's
Speaker 1: not like I love you or anything. I just like
Speaker 1: you and I want to be with you and I've
Speaker 1: never felt that way about a girl before, and you
Speaker 1: know it scares me.
Speaker 2: Very sweet, so sweet.
Speaker 1: Dana smiles and says, come on, let's get you inside,
Speaker 1: and Sean tells her I want to be out here
Speaker 1: with you. I want a second date, and she tells
Speaker 1: him I want to see you again too. He asks
Speaker 1: if she means that and she says yes. She asks
Speaker 1: you want to seal it with a kiss, and he
Speaker 1: smiles and asks her, what's our rush? Aw Sean sticks
Speaker 1: out his hand for Dana to hold and they walk
Speaker 1: back into Chubby's together.
Speaker 2: So I remember you know, I obviously, like I said,
Speaker 2: remember doing this. But this was also the audition scene
Speaker 2: for Trina McGee. Oh, this was the scene that she
Speaker 2: did when you know, I think she talked about on
Speaker 2: the show. She came back like five times for her part.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean often this is what shows will do.
Speaker 2: They don't write a new scene, or if they're building
Speaker 2: a character around an actor, they use an older scene.
Speaker 2: And this was the scene that she used to audition,
Speaker 2: and then they brought me in to read with her.
Speaker 2: She was in the after I read with like when
Speaker 2: they by the time they brought me and they were
Speaker 2: pretty settled on Trina and I remember sitting into the
Speaker 2: audition being like, well I did this with Larissa, there's
Speaker 2: no way it could be better or good. And instead
Speaker 2: Trina and I just had this amazing chemistry. Like we
Speaker 2: in the audition room. I remember going oh wow, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, like because I thought, you know, like how
Speaker 2: could this scene ever be taught? And I was like, oh, actually,
Speaker 2: like we have something here, and we found new levels
Speaker 2: to it. It was a different scene, but it was
Speaker 2: really and Trina was just so good and it was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: this is going to be the new girlfriend. But it's
Speaker 2: funny because I think this is the long gues girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Sean has these two episodes, and so I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of the only material they had to audition somebody
Speaker 2: that was going to be because is it just too
Speaker 2: with Larissa? Yeah, I think so she's in the next
Speaker 2: episode and that's it, and that's it. Huh, well, then
Speaker 2: our tag. We're in the Matthew's kitchen.
Speaker 1: Morgan is pouring coffee into dozens of mugs on the
Speaker 1: table and Eric reminds her remember dcaf ones are in
Speaker 1: the chipped cups. She says, oh, I put dcaff in
Speaker 1: this one, revealing an unchipped cup. He grabs a spoon,
Speaker 1: smacks a chip into it, and says, problem solved. I
Speaker 1: was born to be an intern. Amy and Alan walk downstairs,
Speaker 1: and Amy notices Eric's work, Oh how sweet you made coffee,
Speaker 1: and Alan jokes for the next three years. Eric says,
Speaker 1: these aren't for them. These are for my coworkers and
Speaker 1: what we and the biz like to call the bib biz.
Speaker 4: Eric.
Speaker 2: I find for a moment that the scene was going
Speaker 2: to end with you trying to carry all these I
Speaker 2: was like waiting for some fit and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that actually happens, but that could be
Speaker 2: really funny to watch Will try and gather up all
Speaker 2: these cups. And I just thought it.
Speaker 4: Was amazing that the Matthews have thirty five mugs in
Speaker 4: their house.
Speaker 2: I have that many mondys. I do too, do you really,
Speaker 2: because because for whatever reason, I love mugsytale of coffee,
Speaker 2: so we collect them whenever we gohost places. So we
Speaker 2: have so many money you go same, I have tons.
Speaker 1: If I actually buy one more mug, I have to
Speaker 1: buy a new house because I have I.
Speaker 2: Like unusual mugs. I can't like people that buy like
Speaker 2: the same mug, you know, eight versions of the same mug.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you know? Every mug should be different.
Speaker 2: Every cup of coffee is unique. Every cup of coffee
Speaker 2: is a little asbestos snowflake, just different from the others snowflake.
Speaker 1: Eric explains that part of my job description is to
Speaker 1: get the crew coffee. Alan says, why don't think that
Speaker 1: means you're supposed to bring it from home? Eric scoffs
Speaker 1: who said anything about bringing it? We hear a knock
Speaker 1: on the door and Eric yells out, hey, right on time,
Speaker 1: Come on, in. A gaggle of newsroom workers enter and
Speaker 1: Eric announces they have regular and decaf. Then a bell
Speaker 1: goes off for the muffins he's making. He tells his parents,
Speaker 1: these TP these TV people love their bake goods. As
Speaker 1: he's holding a tray of donuts, Alan sees an opportunity
Speaker 1: and grabs one quickly.
Speaker 2: So cute. Loved this episode me too.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily a ton of like laugh out loud moments,
Speaker 1: not a lot, not a ton of huge laughs, but
Speaker 1: laughs in all the right places and for character and
Speaker 1: character based laughs, and I just really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: So me too.
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