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Speaker 1: Around the NFL the Week eight preview. I'm Dan hansis
Speaker 1: Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. You know what the
Speaker 1: buzzsaw is this week? It is the middle of the
Speaker 1: dang season and there ain't no byes sixteen football games
Speaker 1: and we mean Thursday and Monday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we you know, we were I was acknowledging.
Speaker 3: I think you were agree that, like I don't track
Speaker 3: like buys obsessively until like the week is upon us.
Speaker 3: And I thought, we're in this nice little comfort zone
Speaker 3: where like six teams are having the little week.
Speaker 1: It's like get one game off the But yeah, no, bro,
Speaker 1: I was a total buzzsaw buzzsaw bangjob.
Speaker 4: You know what the buzzey is my lox record right now.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's how you come into the show.
Speaker 4: Oh wow. They they brought it up on that graphic
Speaker 4: at le say.
Speaker 1: Greg Rise and Ghoul six and one, Damn Tansas four
Speaker 1: and three Westling Bros. Four and three Dark Sessler under
Speaker 1: the five hundred mark. That's like being under the Mendoza
Speaker 1: line in baseball mark getting under two hundred. I gotta
Speaker 1: I got to get that up a little.
Speaker 3: I am going to shift into what's good for the
Speaker 3: show at this point. Oh, don't do that. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna know. I'm going to try to win. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it in a with some flare, Okay.
Speaker 1: And also, I guess we could use this as a
Speaker 1: congratulate Greg on another title. No, there's too much.
Speaker 4: I don't know why. It's it's a buzz saw this
Speaker 4: week to write that.
Speaker 1: So, I don't know if we can we have Eric
Speaker 1: behind the glass Madison, like, do we want to just
Speaker 1: end it right now? Have you mathematically clinched yet? It's
Speaker 1: you're that far ahead.
Speaker 6: Well, winning, as I said before the season, winning four
Speaker 6: out of five seasons would mean the end of the
Speaker 6: entire segment because well, people just decide there's no drama
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 2: Well or danon Marker having literally no fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you're mistaken about the power
Speaker 1: dynamic a little bit. But the same time, congratulations. I
Speaker 1: also not accepting this. It's the only way. See, it's
Speaker 1: the only thing that is what gets through Greg's armor.
Speaker 1: Prematurely congratulating him on Picks competition.
Speaker 2: There was the year.
Speaker 3: There was a year that I won this. It was
Speaker 3: like half a decade ago. We were all younger, but like,
Speaker 3: well you tied, you tied for the time. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: this was different.
Speaker 2: There was I waited out. Yeah it was me versus
Speaker 2: West right down.
Speaker 1: I think he won.
Speaker 4: You might have won the first one.
Speaker 3: Well this is I put the trophy on Wes's desk
Speaker 3: announcing was the winner around week and it got into
Speaker 3: his head big time. It's not easy to do that
Speaker 3: with Wes, but that did and I prevailed.
Speaker 1: And really, maybe the darkest of the dark Sessler moments
Speaker 1: is when you and I had a lock off Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Bengals Rams and I needed the Rams to win
Speaker 1: and Mark needed the Bengals. And when Aaron Donald flashed
Speaker 1: around that edge and knocked that ball and forced the incompletion.
Speaker 1: Mark came back about three months later.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we didn't. We didn't see him the rest of
Speaker 6: the night. There's all these pictures with us, with all
Speaker 6: the West bros. Leaving the stadium. Where's Mark.
Speaker 3: I left early and came back to the office and
Speaker 3: just like it was like, oh, it's a Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: but I've got other priorities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, so why would you want to
Speaker 1: take this element the intensity and the rivalries of the
Speaker 1: picks competition.
Speaker 5: But this one's over, so we look ahead to twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four.
Speaker 1: All right, now, Week eight, we gave you the Island
Speaker 1: Games of the primetime games we broke down as part
Speaker 1: of the QB Index episode with Nick Shook. Please check
Speaker 1: that out. All right, Time for the first overall pick,
Speaker 1: presented by Draft Kings and I have the first overall picked,
Speaker 1: and this one is it couldn't be easier for me.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Santa Clara and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that.
Speaker 5: We think, we.
Speaker 1: Think figured it out a little bit before thereby obviously
Speaker 1: they took care of business. The offense came to life
Speaker 1: against Arizona in Week five, they kind of struggle and
Speaker 1: lean on their defense. Well, the offense struggles after a
Speaker 1: hot start against Seattle, and then they lean on their
Speaker 1: defense to close out the Seahawks just barely. So it's like,
Speaker 1: maybe they're good, maybe they're not. Then you have the Niners,
Speaker 1: who started out hot as a pistol five and zero
Speaker 1: killing everybody, and then they dropped two very close games
Speaker 1: that went right down to the final plays, nineteen seventeen
Speaker 1: to the Browns twenty two to seventeen to the Vikings. Yes,
Speaker 1: seventeen points back to back weeks. So now they're back
Speaker 1: home after two tough road losses, and they might have
Speaker 1: a new quarterback, Mark Sessler, because Brock Purdy went into
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol, and as we've seen this season, it
Speaker 1: seems more rock solid than ever. If you go in
Speaker 1: that protocol, you're probably out for the week. So it
Speaker 1: could be Sam Darnaldtown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very little.
Speaker 3: I think there's been like one player in the last
Speaker 3: year that went into protocol at this period and played
Speaker 3: like that weekend.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 6: Chefter tweeted that out and then everyone pointed out how
Speaker 6: many times that's not true that it took me like
Speaker 6: twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Adam Chef.
Speaker 3: But a great, great opening salvo by my for it
Speaker 3: to be a midweek one where they didn't catch it
Speaker 3: on Monday night, which again, this is happening a lot
Speaker 3: where they don't catch it at the time, just saying
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Wait, one in five players that go into the protocol.
Speaker 4: Or something like that.
Speaker 6: I think there was like twenty something percent has been
Speaker 6: able to like Moley Kyle.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I I do think though, you know, pretty
Speaker 3: to me, I feel like I always want to defend
Speaker 3: him and Dan, I think you're in the same camp
Speaker 3: and these people that just want to like you're just
Speaker 3: the mid level guy. It's not because of you that
Speaker 3: you're succeeding. He's had a couple tough weeks. But isn't
Speaker 3: there this sort of sense that everyone's waiting to see
Speaker 3: Sam Darnald in this offense, largely because like Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 3: was like, you know, verbally unfurling sea poems about Sam Donald.
Speaker 6: Everyone obvious the Donald hive, and there's another it's huge.
Speaker 2: It's the hive.
Speaker 3: It's not going away, and there would be reasons for
Speaker 3: the hive to a dissembled, but like the hive is around,
Speaker 3: and I think there's like a little bit of juice
Speaker 3: around the concept of like can Shanahan do with Sam
Speaker 3: Darnald what no one else has been able to do?
Speaker 2: And I kind of find it fascinating for that reason.
Speaker 1: Interesting because there wasn't much of a Sam Donald hive
Speaker 1: when I've been pounding the table for him the last
Speaker 1: three or four years.
Speaker 4: J T.
Speaker 6: O'Sullivan, Mina Chimes, Dan Orlowski. There are so many right
Speaker 6: that Daniel Jeremiah that puts so much stock into Donald
Speaker 6: pre draft and have stuck with him. And then he
Speaker 6: does tend to start the seasons with these teams, whether
Speaker 6: it was you know, the Panthers a year ago, when
Speaker 6: he first comes out, like first couple games of the season,
Speaker 6: Donald has been better. And look, he doesn't need to
Speaker 6: be incredible, he just needs to be Nick Mullins as
Speaker 6: a rookie. Nick Mullens as a rookie is averaging like
Speaker 6: eight yards per attempt. I don't think he's as good
Speaker 6: as Brock Purdy, but I also don't think this Bengals
Speaker 6: defense is nearly as good as its reputation has been
Speaker 6: this year. You know, I was thinking hard about locking
Speaker 6: this game before it flipped from Purdy to Donald. I
Speaker 6: just feel like my long standing Donald lack of belief
Speaker 6: makes it hard to lock him up in a game
Speaker 6: against Joe Burrow. But I still feel good about the
Speaker 6: forty nine ers. I'd even take the three and a
Speaker 6: half points and think they're going to cover. Ultimately, because
Speaker 6: I think they're just a better team top to bottom.
Speaker 3: They are banged up though, Deebo Samuel not doing well,
Speaker 3: Trent Williams not doing well.
Speaker 2: You don't have your quarterback.
Speaker 3: Like I I came away from the Vikings game kind
Speaker 3: of being like, look at the Niners are going to
Speaker 3: have a couple down weeks, but they couldn't run the
Speaker 3: ball last week. I thought they got flamed in the
Speaker 3: passing game a couple of times. And it's like the
Speaker 3: Vikings looked like the better team. And it's like the
Speaker 3: Niners the two week journey that they've been on, I
Speaker 3: don't know, three weeks ago. I'm like, just put them
Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship and probably the super Bowl. It
Speaker 3: hasn't changed my opinion entirely, but like a couple of
Speaker 3: injuries have changed that team.
Speaker 1: What about the Cincinnati side of this, because Greg, what
Speaker 1: did you take away? You know, the team goes away
Speaker 1: for a week or two weeks, and that's actually great
Speaker 1: because as much as we wanted to say Burrow looked
Speaker 1: much better the last couple of weeks physically, and he did.
Speaker 5: I mean, what's better than a bye week?
Speaker 1: So now he gets more time to rest that calf
Speaker 1: and get the treatment and hopefully comes out and he's
Speaker 1: even more kind of moved away from that, hopefully. Were
Speaker 1: you concerned about the last essentially three quarters of that
Speaker 1: game against Seattle.
Speaker 6: Yes, they had five first downs I think in the
Speaker 6: last three quarter. Their offensive line no bad. Has been
Speaker 6: poor all year. Burrow's injury made them look even worse
Speaker 6: or showed how poor they are. They haven't been able
Speaker 6: to run the ball. The defense has had some great games.
Speaker 6: Cam Taylor Brick is coming on as a true number
Speaker 6: one type of cornerback. I think they have all the
Speaker 6: players on both sides of the ball, so at some
Speaker 6: point they should be the team that we expected to see,
Speaker 6: but they just haven't been that team. And it's really
Speaker 6: fascinating Burrow against this defense who was so disappointing last week.
Speaker 6: Bosa is just not getting the production that you normally
Speaker 6: like to see. But this is normally a spot where
Speaker 6: you expect the forty nine Ers defensive line to eat.
Speaker 6: This is a good number one overall pick you got, Romo.
Speaker 6: This is the best game of the week, the most fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not want to deal with the Niners
Speaker 3: come off two losses and the Bengals like they are
Speaker 3: walking talking about a buzzsaw.
Speaker 6: But wouldn't you said you wouldn't want to face them
Speaker 6: coming off one loss, and then they played their worst
Speaker 6: game of the year.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, no, you're right, but that game was
Speaker 3: like ultra surprising to me.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I just mean to try harder. And then they
Speaker 6: show up and they did even worse.
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of that matters, but like
Speaker 3: the Bengals have after this game. They have the Bills,
Speaker 3: the Texans, who are suddenly frisky that's not an omadic
Speaker 3: win anymore, the Ravens and the Steelers. So it's like
Speaker 3: you're kind of in this like need to show up situation.
Speaker 3: And I do think, like, because we talked with Nick
Speaker 3: about Joe Burrow and his QB index yesterday, and like,
Speaker 3: how do you deal with Burrow in that kind of ranking,
Speaker 3: because what we've seen him them healthy is completely different
Speaker 3: than before. It's like actual completion percentage rose by like
Speaker 3: twenty points over the last two weeks. So it's like that,
Speaker 3: I just believe they can do anything if you have
Speaker 3: the healthy.
Speaker 1: Burrow and t Higgins he's had the rib Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1: It's time, it's time, no more excuses. Ball out against
Speaker 1: the Niners defense that was vulnerable.
Speaker 6: I thought you were gonna lock up your boy Sam
Speaker 6: Donald in a big spot.
Speaker 5: Greg, Ever, the showman MS Sam Donald came into the
Speaker 5: league as.
Speaker 1: As the hero that would save my New York Jets,
Speaker 1: and what happened over the three years was nothing short
Speaker 1: of misery for the USC star. And I always thought
Speaker 1: that that was unfair, Like Greg, very unfair. You would
Speaker 1: I would get into these arguments and you would look
Speaker 1: to like hit me when I was down and say, oh,
Speaker 1: he's the biggest bust in.
Speaker 5: The history of the NFL, like one of them hitting me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy was, but in one of the worst
Speaker 1: situations in recent NFL history, and he flamed out as
Speaker 1: any almost any young quarterback would do. And I always wondered,
Speaker 1: what if he just got into a better chance and
Speaker 1: he went to Carolina and that didn't exactly work out,
Speaker 1: but again, a very dysfunctional situation once more. And even
Speaker 1: when he got a chance last year in Carolina, he
Speaker 1: played pretty well and you look at the stats, the
Speaker 1: numbers were pretty good. He moved that offense. They actually
Speaker 1: won four of the six games he started when he
Speaker 1: goes to San Francisco and I said it this summer.
Speaker 5: Just get him in the lineup.
Speaker 1: Give this guy a chance. He's still stunningly only twenty
Speaker 1: six years old, came to the league very young, which
Speaker 1: is another aspect of his development. Now is the time
Speaker 1: to put Sam in, because if you put Sam Donald in,
Speaker 1: he ain't coming out. I'm locking up the Niners.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get.
Speaker 6: I think time's so well with the music, that was
Speaker 6: beautiful done at this point.
Speaker 1: I like Rockberdy, I'm and I think I think the
Speaker 1: Niners are on buy next week. I might be mistaken
Speaker 1: on that take a look, which would hurt Sam because
Speaker 1: I have every confidence that he's gonna ball out in
Speaker 1: this game, and there are people on Twitter that support
Speaker 1: Donald and also think that he'll be in a good spot.
Speaker 1: But I've always felt that he has a chance to
Speaker 1: do something in this league, and this is his stage.
Speaker 1: I hope he gets more than one game, but I
Speaker 1: also don't think party's the problem in San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: wish he got maybe more than one start, but it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be just one start, and I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna play well.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm so easy that just because I met Sam
Speaker 3: Darnold at LAX before the scouting.
Speaker 5: Wish we had that photo.
Speaker 2: It's around here somewhere.
Speaker 3: I actually don't love that photo because it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Mark is like a foot and a half shorter than
Speaker 3: the average and of hill quarterback, but like he couldn't
Speaker 3: have been a more delightful guy. And so it's like
Speaker 3: I kind of want to root for him.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So, so what you were you gonna lock him up to?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I told you what I do is for
Speaker 3: the show. At this point, I've got a surprise. Oh
Speaker 3: it's the Turnpike. By the way, that game is Niner
Speaker 3: is favored by three and a half. The over under
Speaker 3: is forty three and a half, and that is a
Speaker 3: Nance Romo Wolfson joint. All right, come on, Sam, Sam Richard,
Speaker 3: that's Samuel Samn Richard, Doniel Darneld, All right, let's.
Speaker 1: Get to it.
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Speaker 5: Mark, you were up with the second pick.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna take my late game right out
Speaker 2: of the gate.
Speaker 1: Here, let's go Sam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's not playing in this game. All right,
Speaker 3: he's playing in your game. I'm taking the Browns at Seattle.
Speaker 1: I keep it.
Speaker 3: I'm a little mystified by that Colts game because you
Speaker 3: got look at their calls at the end, like probably
Speaker 3: you know in Jim Mercy of all people's coming out
Speaker 3: strong saying the Colts got robbed there in that. I
Speaker 3: think there's a fair argument there, no doubt about it,
Speaker 3: that happened. But Cleveland also did a lot of good
Speaker 3: things in that game, but did a lot of bad things.
Speaker 2: You got like pretty much terrible quarterback play.
Speaker 3: You couldn't really run the ball that well outside of
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford's like monster touchdown run. Miles Garrett played out
Speaker 3: of his mind. The defense also arguably had its worst
Speaker 3: game of the year and gave up monster yardage in
Speaker 3: the passing game two. Gardner Minshew of all people. So
Speaker 3: it's like you put it all together and they still
Speaker 3: scored like thirty nine points in one in the end.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I guess like I want to be hopeful in say,
Speaker 3: Cleveland amidst all these ups and downs is finding a
Speaker 3: way to win these games. Because they didn't have good
Speaker 3: quarterback play against the Niners either, and you don't have
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb, and they found a way to get that
Speaker 3: done with like a stellar defensive effort in bad weather.
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett right now is the centerpiece for me, and
Speaker 3: I think it's the Miles Garrett and the rest of
Speaker 3: that pass rushes match up with Charles Cross and Abraham
Speaker 3: Lucas of the Seahawks. Miles Garrett is on pace for
Speaker 3: the greatest PFF pass rushing grade ever and it looks
Speaker 3: like it, and he did a lot more than just
Speaker 3: rush the pass thro a week ago. And so I
Speaker 3: think it's like sometimes these games to me come down
Speaker 3: to somewhat simple equations of like, if you're gonna get this,
Speaker 3: if Miles Garrett's on a hot streak like this and
Speaker 3: he's supported by a good defense around him, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a challenge for Seattle. I also feel like this
Speaker 3: is the kind of game where Cleveland on the road,
Speaker 3: if you know you got PJ. Walker in there, when
Speaker 3: you get the really bad PJ.
Speaker 1: Walker game.
Speaker 2: It just sort of explodes everything from the inside out.
Speaker 6: Greg They're very thin though the Seahawks on the offensive line.
Speaker 6: Abe Lucas not expected to return this week. I think
Speaker 6: Phil Haynes their guard. They've been down three offensive linemen
Speaker 6: all year, so that is worrisome for my guy Gino,
Speaker 6: who is putting on a show the last few weeks.
Speaker 6: Just like it's almost been a little Geno coaster within games.
Speaker 6: I would argue no one's made more high quality throws
Speaker 6: than Gino Smith in the NFL the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: Yes, you would have.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I don't even think it's argue about it. If
Speaker 6: you look, if you're on film, Twitter, they would all
Speaker 6: agree too, Like he is throwing some outrageous passes and
Speaker 6: then making huge mistakes in the red zone too. The
Speaker 6: on balance, like he's looked a lot better once you
Speaker 6: to watch the film and everything, but he when he's
Speaker 6: under pressure, and he will be under pressure against Cleveland,
Speaker 6: you definitely worry about him making that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying that he's not making great
Speaker 1: throws in these games, I guess, but I just like
Speaker 1: I think it would be the anti it's kind of cute.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter last two weeks. I'm just saying, it really.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what Gino does. You will find the spin
Speaker 1: to present him in the most positive light. But that's
Speaker 1: because he's your favorite player now, like he's your favorite
Speaker 1: player in the league, isn't.
Speaker 4: He he is?
Speaker 6: But I'm talking about the way his season has evolved.
Speaker 4: I'm certainly not alone on this island.
Speaker 6: He's sort of had a blah like not bad, not
Speaker 6: good first four or five weeks of the season, and
Speaker 6: then the last few seasons he is trying throws. Almost
Speaker 6: no one else in the world other than Matthew Stafford's
Speaker 6: a good comp I think, would try and he's hitting them.
Speaker 6: But he's also making some big time mistakes. So suddenly
Speaker 6: the variance has gone with.
Speaker 3: The throw when we were in London and we were
Speaker 3: sleep deprived, but in the bucket to DK Metcalf, it's
Speaker 3: like there's and you mentioned this too, that like when
Speaker 3: we were there is like he's playing with a kind
Speaker 3: of confidence where it's like he's there's gonna be mistakes.
Speaker 3: But I kind of like this version of him more
Speaker 3: than any other previous.
Speaker 6: Against the Browns, he threw well, quadruple coverage. The fan
Speaker 6: that he hit last week, it was just like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but look how the Brown Browns like had a
Speaker 3: ton of busted coverage last week.
Speaker 2: Made Josh Downs look like.
Speaker 1: Because I said this two weeks ago too, Greg like,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not playing well. I just think
Speaker 1: I said that. I feel like the Gino Coaster was
Speaker 1: starting to ramp up. Now it's a more fun it's
Speaker 1: a better roller coaster now. Yeah. But qb index right right,
Speaker 1: he's been a solid deed either. I mean, he's so
Speaker 1: much more fun than the Gino Coaster back in the
Speaker 1: Meadowlands six years ago or whatever. But he is. There's
Speaker 1: almost a little bit of farving nature to the game too,
Speaker 1: where he's like I can do anything and sometimes you can't.
Speaker 1: And it's gotten him in trouble in a couple of
Speaker 1: spots with a couple of bad throws the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks that have come back to on him. But
Speaker 1: he's certainly not a problem by any stretch. You shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I was gonna say that we should mention
Speaker 3: like the Deshaun Watson situation where it's like he said
Speaker 3: he knew his shoulder was not right after the brief,
Speaker 3: disastrous stint he had against the Cults. I kind of
Speaker 3: wonder like if and when we're gonna see him again,
Speaker 3: because like apparently like the shoulder injury he has. Right
Speaker 3: if it were a pitcher, they say you'd be out
Speaker 3: like easily four to six weeks.
Speaker 4: But you're not getting his agent through Adam Chef.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's fine. I'm just saying that is a
Speaker 3: comp of what's going But I are Pitchers aren't getting
Speaker 3: slammed to the turf typically in a baseball game.
Speaker 1: If you are, if you are Cleveland, you rightfully should
Speaker 1: see yourself as a team that could be playing for
Speaker 1: the playoffs in late December and early January. And nothing
Speaker 1: happens without Watson being healthy in terms of the big
Speaker 1: picture and what everyone really wants, which is the big trophy,
Speaker 1: So like put him down, now, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Like and very clear what you're saying about the agent
Speaker 1: and the team. You could sense it, even if the
Speaker 1: big story hasn't dropped yet that there is some issues
Speaker 1: behind the scenes in terms of communication and what his
Speaker 1: status should be. But what if he has a bad shoulder,
Speaker 1: You got to get him out of the mix and
Speaker 1: and bring him back healthy.
Speaker 4: I uh do it right.
Speaker 6: I pointed out some of the inconsistencies on Twitter today
Speaker 6: and it wasn't that I have some like conspiracy that
Speaker 6: he doesn't want to play, because he called his own
Speaker 6: press conference essentially today that to say, it's ridiculous to
Speaker 6: say I wouldn't want to play. Of course I want
Speaker 6: to play. I believe that that's not That's not what
Speaker 6: I'm getting at. My My point is that the communication
Speaker 6: between him and the coach and the front office is
Speaker 6: so off multi it's pretty weird that multiple times Stefanski
Speaker 6: said he was medically cleared, and then he said after
Speaker 6: last game he's going to start this week, and then
Speaker 6: he's not starting this week. Andrew Barry was on record
Speaker 6: saying it was going to be a short term injury
Speaker 6: that was four weeks ago. That that is all pretty
Speaker 6: weird and it hints at at some sort of divide,
Speaker 6: some some sort of confusion. And before we get out
Speaker 6: of there, I do I do want to mention the
Speaker 6: Seahawks defense. That's why I'm I'm higher on this team
Speaker 6: and I ever expected going into this season. I actually
Speaker 6: think the Seahawks have a little higher ceiling than I
Speaker 6: thought that they could be a contender in the NFC
Speaker 6: if the offense is better. Actually, Gino and the offense
Speaker 6: on balance has been worse as a group than I thought,
Speaker 6: but that's partly injury late. Their defense is coming. Witherspoon's coming.
Speaker 6: I love what Jamal Adams is added. They're very good
Speaker 6: and versatile with their three safety group. Boy Mafe is
Speaker 6: having a breakout season. They lost through Chenna Nuosa. We
Speaker 6: should mention their best pass rusher for the season we
Speaker 6: found out after last year. Trade deadline next week. But
Speaker 6: better up front than I expect. A. Dk Metcalf is
Speaker 6: back this week, you know, Taylor Jamar. I just think
Speaker 6: it's a better overall team than I expect it, and
Speaker 6: that's why I'm locking them up on the round.
Speaker 3: Greg is such a Seahawks fan, and that Cleveland's getting
Speaker 3: four points.
Speaker 2: I'll see if it stays there. Lackoff, lockoff, No, I'm
Speaker 2: going I have another no. I don't like. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing Browns on.
Speaker 1: The road the last three weeks with a bye week
Speaker 1: ind there for Seattle's defense pants. The Giants gave up
Speaker 1: three points shut down Joe Burrow in Cincinnati after two
Speaker 1: big drives early only last seventeen and then Cardinals they
Speaker 1: just allowed ten, took care of business. I kind of
Speaker 1: like it's annoying because Greg's hot out of the gates
Speaker 1: with the locks this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good pick though.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good picky. I think Cleveland. I
Speaker 1: think this could be the PJ Walker.
Speaker 2: Is it a courageous underground you could?
Speaker 3: There could be schools of thought that suggest it's not
Speaker 3: incredible to lock up PJA against PJ Walker.
Speaker 4: Lamb so high on them.
Speaker 6: They're they're literally four and two there, they've been good.
Speaker 2: I said, schools have thought. I didn't say my all right, Greg,
Speaker 2: you're up.
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it, Sam Darnold and I like now
Speaker 6: that we're spreading it out, we have a strange schedule
Speaker 6: which shook, and I'm going to take the Ravens Cardinals
Speaker 6: late because i want to because that's what I who.
Speaker 6: I want to watch live in the late window. I'm
Speaker 6: not really feeling the other choice.
Speaker 1: Did you, by the way, Mark, did you think that
Speaker 1: Cleveland and Seattle wasn't going to make it to the
Speaker 1: fifth pick?
Speaker 5: I guess with Greg's fandom.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I could of did.
Speaker 2: I actually looking at the landscape, I didn't think it
Speaker 2: would come back to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably would have taken it. That's good, good Mark,
Speaker 6: good scouting. There's been a lot of reaches early on
Speaker 6: for you this season. But yeah, I pick what I
Speaker 6: prefer though.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of happening in real life too, and
Speaker 2: I'll just do what I need to do.
Speaker 6: So not an incredible week of games, which is why
Speaker 6: I'm taking Ravens Cardinals through. I just want to take
Speaker 6: my late game now. It's fine, get do.
Speaker 1: We keep saying that, by the way, every week that
Speaker 1: is not a great slate of games because everyone in
Speaker 1: the league is three and four. Maybe said it consistently.
Speaker 1: It's two teams are three and four. I know the
Speaker 1: math doesn't seem to add up, but that's what's happening
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 6: Kyler Murray is fully practicing this week fully.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 6: The Ravens are favored by eight in this game in Arizona.
Speaker 2: That says it's not a formidable stadium venue.
Speaker 6: No, I'm sure there'll be a decent amount of Ravens
Speaker 6: fans there as well. And uh yeah, they've been showing
Speaker 6: the practice footage we got on our YouTube show, and
Speaker 6: like he's looked good out there, and if he doesn't
Speaker 6: start this week, it really feels like he will start
Speaker 6: a week from now.
Speaker 4: Now you could say, what's he returning to?
Speaker 6: This team is a bit of a mess, and their
Speaker 6: passing game with Dobbs has definitely taken a step back.
Speaker 6: I definitely don't think they'll be able to move the
Speaker 6: ball well against Baltimore, but the offense has been fine.
Speaker 6: I actually am intrigued to see him in this Drew
Speaker 6: Petsig offense. It's really the defense that that is gonna
Speaker 6: be in for a world of hurt this game. I
Speaker 6: really think the Ravens offensive line getting healthy Linderbaum and
Speaker 6: Stanley has changed everything because the line's playing well and
Speaker 6: Lamar's playing out of his mind and some of the
Speaker 6: other stuff with the receivers sometimes they're still in the
Speaker 6: wrong place and it's a little janky, but Lamar is
Speaker 6: making up for it.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of holes in this Cardinals defense.
Speaker 3: There are, and you get the sense that the Ravens
Speaker 3: are heating up.
Speaker 2: And Greg, you were on top of the speat a
Speaker 2: while ago.
Speaker 3: You know, it's fair to say that it would have
Speaker 3: taken a month plus in a new offense, a completely
Speaker 3: new offense for everyone on the team to get into
Speaker 3: this fashion.
Speaker 2: But they're getting healthier.
Speaker 3: And I kind of just the one thing about Baltimore
Speaker 3: because if you look at the scope of like the
Speaker 3: last two or three seasons, it's like they've been among
Speaker 3: the most injured teams in the league. And I think
Speaker 3: they found a way to kind of gut their way
Speaker 3: through some of that, still make playoffs, still win games
Speaker 3: they should have no business winning. And so if you
Speaker 3: get a healthier version and you get a Lamar Jackson
Speaker 3: who's playing the way he is right now, he's the
Speaker 3: top five quarterback in the league, no questions asked. And
Speaker 3: we'll see it right there on the YouTube copy. Like
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews, who's two touchdowns away, Well that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Right where else would you watch it? You're listening in
Speaker 3: your car, You're out of luck. But it was Mark
Speaker 3: Andrews cut He's two touchdowns away from Ty and Todd
Speaker 3: Heap for the most touchdowns. Mark Andrews is like the
Speaker 3: kind of guy that doesn't get almost enough credit somehow,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like I just look at this
Speaker 3: Raven's offense and I feel like they this is maybe
Speaker 3: where Arizona, who I've been I've had a bit of
Speaker 3: a fetish for. I don't see it at this point,
Speaker 3: like okay falls out, thank you, I even a week
Speaker 3: ago I've seen.
Speaker 1: I can't really pushed back on the Ravens because it's
Speaker 1: the wrong time to do it, because they just played
Speaker 1: better than anyone in the league in Week seven and
Speaker 1: now they have a layup against the Cardinals. But you know,
Speaker 1: they're a little weird now you're I'm just saying like
Speaker 1: they we're now now we're gonna view the Ravens as
Speaker 1: this unstoppable juggernaut, but they're kind of proven a couple
Speaker 1: times ready this year.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: With the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3: But clean games are an argument, like they last week,
Speaker 3: So let's make.
Speaker 1: Up two in a row. Sure, And because it wasn't
Speaker 1: that clean in London when we watched it.
Speaker 5: By the way, Gregy, you know what they got next week?
Speaker 1: Ravens Seahawks, Baby, Greg torn from what day?
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 5: Greg. That's a fun game.
Speaker 6: I mean, I just like I like football. It's not like,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna either way my team wins.
Speaker 1: Oh what a what a life for Greg? I have
Speaker 1: fourteen favorite teams, so I can't lose.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Who would you? Who do you like better?
Speaker 5: Who do you like? The Ravens of the Sea.
Speaker 6: I mean just in terms of, like my emotions walkating
Speaker 6: the game, I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not really living in dying either.
Speaker 5: We would you rather win next week? We'll save it
Speaker 5: for interesting?
Speaker 4: Not even close? All right, let's keep moving.
Speaker 3: You're a Lamar like you like if you see that
Speaker 3: Lamarmi coming out you like?
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 6: I'm rooting for him him as a player, But I'd
Speaker 6: rather than the Seahawks win.
Speaker 1: It snakes too, all right.
Speaker 6: I Am going to take Kevin Burkhard's early game. It's
Speaker 6: the Rams. It's the Cowboys. The Cowboys are six point
Speaker 6: favorites in this game. Uh, and it's a lot.
Speaker 4: But I get it.
Speaker 6: The Rams are coming off of a disappointing game, and
Speaker 6: this is to me the ultimate test of this Rams
Speaker 6: offensive line, which I think is really improved. I was
Speaker 6: impressed how they played against Pittsburgh last week. I thought
Speaker 6: they protected Matthew Stafford pretty well, and they were able
Speaker 6: to run the ball against Pittsburgh and I know they
Speaker 6: didn't win the game, but I just think if their
Speaker 6: offensive line is good, then they're going to be around
Speaker 6: to stay. But it's the ultimate test when you go
Speaker 6: up against this Cowboys pass rush. So that's a fun
Speaker 6: matchup on that side of the ball when Matthew Stafford
Speaker 6: has it, because I think they could be better than
Speaker 6: their three and four record. They're one of the few
Speaker 6: three and four teams where I look at that team like,
Speaker 6: that's a good team.
Speaker 1: How about for the Cowboys who are on by couldn't
Speaker 1: have gone better for him? So you get the buy,
Speaker 1: get to get healthy, get some shots off against the
Speaker 1: league about you know, people give us a harder time
Speaker 1: than the rest of the league. And then you see
Speaker 1: the lines get humiliated the way they were, and then
Speaker 1: you see the Eagles.
Speaker 5: No who else went down? There was another San Francisco.
Speaker 1: San Francisco goes down, and all of a sudden, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I know we're not perfect, but you know they're
Speaker 1: not perfect either, and they had a chance to reset.
Speaker 1: Now very interested to see I've been kind of banging
Speaker 1: the drum a little bit like, how does how we
Speaker 1: nearly at the midpoint of the season and Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and Ceedee Lamb have hooked up for one touchdown this year?
Speaker 4: That needs to be like very much.
Speaker 6: You're a fantasy team Matt Ryan season CD.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Ceedee Lamb is on my fantasy team, but like,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on now, Like Ceedee Lamb, I think
Speaker 1: we all kind of feel, or at least I feel
Speaker 1: like he's a top ten receiver. Dak doesn't have a
Speaker 1: ton of options on the field. How are they not
Speaker 1: funneling targets and letting that guy make plays? Because when
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb is making catches and he's still Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: and he's electric to the ball in his hands, I
Speaker 1: feel like that's an obvious missing part of their offense.
Speaker 1: And then Texas Coast offense is the chemistry or at
Speaker 1: least a production between those two guys. That said, it
Speaker 1: is still a pretty small sample size, and you would
Speaker 1: think by the end of the season these things even out.
Speaker 1: So if he had a big game on Sunday, it
Speaker 1: would not shock me. It's just weird that that huge
Speaker 1: game hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they just haven't really been the sum
Speaker 3: of their parts on offense, because there's nothing not to
Speaker 3: like about the roster in general. But I don't I
Speaker 3: think back in the summer, if I were to tell
Speaker 3: you that the Rams would be eighth in passing EPA
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys will be twelfth, the Rams will be
Speaker 3: fourth and rushing EPA and the Cowboys will be sixteenth,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, well, wait, flip those Like I don't
Speaker 3: even expect the Rams to be much of anything, and
Speaker 3: they've been a surprise. But I do think this is
Speaker 3: a time, it's an important, important week for Dallas to
Speaker 3: like just simply shred the Rams and look like the
Speaker 3: team that we want them to look like. Their third
Speaker 3: against the pass, fourth against the rush, first and pressure rate,
Speaker 3: the best man coverage team in the league. Matthew Stafford
Speaker 3: has been like, it's weird. It's Matthew Stafford. We talked
Speaker 3: about it with Nick. It's like seven touchdowns, six interceptions.
Speaker 3: The stats throw them out the window because he's throwing
Speaker 3: the ball as well as he ever has, and you've
Speaker 3: got a nice group of receivers. But Dallas has really
Speaker 3: no excuse to not take care of business here.
Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm to buy them at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can say the Niners lost and the
Speaker 3: Eagles did this or that, but it's like the Cowboys
Speaker 3: had such I need. I need them to convince me
Speaker 3: you can take care of your own business.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of you're talking out of
Speaker 1: two sides of them out there, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Rams are actually much better than the we thought,
Speaker 1: and here's some data backing that up, and now the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have no business not taking care of business.
Speaker 3: I think they're not the Cowboys at all like that.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I I do think that the Rams.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I think this is a pretty good,
Speaker 1: evenly matched game. Maybe the Cowboys are the favorite and
Speaker 1: they're at home, but they've they've lost some guys on
Speaker 1: their defense, and I think this should be closer than
Speaker 1: perhaps the spread tells us.
Speaker 6: By the way, Ceedee Lamb is on pace for like
Speaker 6: one hundred catches and thirteen hundred yeards, just telling. So
Speaker 6: the touchdowns are random.
Speaker 1: But all right, throw the stats out the window. It's
Speaker 1: not the same. It's not like what you expect. You know,
Speaker 1: what I expect from Cdee Lamb and Dak Prescott what
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and aj Brown are doing on something.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the Chargers game, you know, a sign
Speaker 6: of things to come for Dak. That was his best
Speaker 6: game by far the season, certainly since that playoff game.
Speaker 6: He used his legs, which you know, just us believers
Speaker 6: in Dak have been just begging, like what happened? Like
Speaker 6: he never he uses legs in multiple times to make
Speaker 6: throws and to run. That was huge, and so you
Speaker 6: want to see that continue. And they did get rid
Speaker 6: of Brett Maher. We didn't, we didn't mention it on
Speaker 6: this show, but Brett Maher is no more in Los Angeles,
Speaker 6: and it's great.
Speaker 4: This team's crazy.
Speaker 6: They bringing Darryl Henderson off the street and he's suddenly
Speaker 6: like their number one guy and he's actually running the ball.
Speaker 4: Well, they get rid of their kicker, I thought.
Speaker 6: Jordan rod Rieg our friend mentioned a great point the
Speaker 6: Great Thursday that Sean McVay is among the league leaders
Speaker 6: in losing, you know, points added in terms of there's
Speaker 6: a way to like look at it. In terms of
Speaker 6: his fourth down decision. He is extremely conservative punting and
Speaker 6: kicking field goals on fourth down. And yet they won't
Speaker 6: pay for a kicker, and they're going the cheap route
Speaker 6: and the kicker and those two things don't match up.
Speaker 6: It's like you're losing points because you've got this great offense.
Speaker 1: He pays for kickers for the most part.
Speaker 6: Right, No, but they went out of their way to
Speaker 6: get rid of the best kicker in the league and
Speaker 6: they're going on the cheap and they're not going for
Speaker 6: it ever on fourth down, they're trusting their punter, who's
Speaker 6: also not really playing well.
Speaker 4: They're trusting their kicker instead.
Speaker 1: Who's the kicker?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 4: It's a man I was not familiar.
Speaker 1: Where the hell is Robbie Gould? Someone tell me where
Speaker 1: Robbie Gould is?
Speaker 6: They have signed Lucas Haverson, and did Robbie Gould ever
Speaker 6: to CLA.
Speaker 1: Something's something else going on with that story. I mean
Speaker 1: I talked about it on last Sunday after the Maher meltdown.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's crazy to me that they hope that
Speaker 1: the level of mental breakdown in that playoff run with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would never pop up again. It was a
Speaker 1: huge roll of the dice. But also it made me
Speaker 1: think after they made the right decision, sadly for Maher
Speaker 1: to move on here rather than get into that sad dance.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys chose to stick with Maher last year in
Speaker 1: the same situation in the playoffs, and I'll never get
Speaker 1: over that, not really, let him never get over that.
Speaker 6: But it's like, hey, let's let's maybe not trust Maher
Speaker 6: to hit a fifty yarder and let's trust Matthew freaking
Speaker 6: Stafford and Cooper Cupp And that's.
Speaker 2: Fair, right.
Speaker 3: The other coach is a little conservative, like Sean McVay
Speaker 3: is Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and then we will
Speaker 1: continue with the draft. All right, welcome back, Mark, it
Speaker 1: comes back to you.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna take Jacksonville at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's getting
Speaker 3: two and a half points in this. I guess I
Speaker 3: just want to see what happens with the Steelers team,
Speaker 3: like just basically on offense. I feel like the defense
Speaker 3: is sort of the same thing. It's like it's TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt doing something game changing, scenery changing on a weekly basis,
Speaker 3: and the rest of them I rely on for the
Speaker 3: most part. I think the offense, it's like this, this
Speaker 3: is the story of this team, and I want to
Speaker 3: see more Jaleen Warren, George Pickens coming off too straight
Speaker 3: one hundred yard games.
Speaker 2: That's very promising.
Speaker 3: And it's like I I with Pickett, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like with Kenny Pickett, it's like I think he's just
Speaker 3: sort of a middle of the pack Dalton Line type
Speaker 3: of guy, but he does have a knack to like
Speaker 3: keep these teams in games. And I think if you
Speaker 3: get the best version of Pickens and Jaleen Warren away
Speaker 3: from Najie Harris, am I crazy. I just like I
Speaker 3: like the juice that Warren brings, and I like to
Speaker 3: reorganize that offense that way where that's all they're trying
Speaker 3: to do, and go up against the Jacksonville defense that's
Speaker 3: been essentially the best in coverage league wide. No other
Speaker 3: team on offense for the Jacksonville allows less pressure. Like
Speaker 3: they've just been a very good like they've been a
Speaker 3: surprising defense.
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of challenge for Pittsburgh, right.
Speaker 6: I've been as surprised by their defense as any in
Speaker 6: the NFL. Now, it goes back to what I say
Speaker 6: with like, look at the opponents that they faced, but
Speaker 6: Kansas City, you know, is one of them.
Speaker 4: It was early Buffalo is one of them.
Speaker 6: Houston's a decent offense, so it's not just beating up
Speaker 6: on bad offenses. And the Steelers should be a bad offense.
Speaker 6: Like the Jaguars are really good stopping the run, then
Speaker 6: you make them one dimensional?
Speaker 4: Can you pick it?
Speaker 6: Coming out of that, Buy had his best game of
Speaker 6: the year by far, Like he looked like an NFL
Speaker 6: quarterback again. And so if they somehow found something and
Speaker 6: then maybe it's just Deontay Johnson, like this is a
Speaker 6: fun little game here.
Speaker 4: Well, Jacksonville Pittsburgh used to be a rivalry.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I think these are.
Speaker 3: North way back, way back in the day AFC Central.
Speaker 3: There's six teams in there.
Speaker 1: These two teams have failed to capture my imagination, which
Speaker 1: who cares? Who cares if they capture my imagination. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, when you guys are pumping it up,
Speaker 1: and that makes that's cool, that's good.
Speaker 5: That's what we do on the show.
Speaker 1: But when I watch at Jaguars, I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: waiting for it to be a little bit more exciting
Speaker 1: than it actually is. And and they've been successful for
Speaker 1: the most part this season, but and Pittsburgh I just
Speaker 1: find them to be a slog I know they've they've
Speaker 1: come to life, and adding Pickens back to the mix
Speaker 1: is such a big deal for them because he is
Speaker 1: an actual playmaker and he helps a quarterback who I
Speaker 1: do believe is you know, like you're saying, very middle
Speaker 1: of the pack at best. But this is a hard
Speaker 1: game for me to pick. I would say Pittsburgh at home.
Speaker 1: I like kind of them keeping this thing of scoring.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Steelers here.
Speaker 6: I like Jacksonville. They're favored by two and a half.
Speaker 6: I just think they've been better. But you know, they
Speaker 6: changed their strategy last week with Trevor Lawrence playing with
Speaker 6: an injured knee, Like he got rid of the ball
Speaker 6: so quickly. They weren't trying anything downfield. I think that
Speaker 6: was to protect him. So we'll see if he's feeling
Speaker 6: a little better. He ran well in that game anyways,
Speaker 6: And I am just curious because the last game before
Speaker 6: the trade deadline here, they feel like the team most
Speaker 6: likely in my mind to make a big trade this
Speaker 6: next week.
Speaker 4: I think Jacksonville, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6: They will bring in a guy like Daniel Hunter or
Speaker 6: Chase Young or Brian Burns to me, they would be
Speaker 6: my number one pick of like a team that is
Speaker 6: gonna make a move. It's partly because Trayvon Walker is
Speaker 6: not getting it done, but it's also because they have
Speaker 6: the room. They need a pass rusher, and I think
Speaker 6: they will be aggressive in doing It's.
Speaker 1: A good check in time on Trayvon Walker. Oh, we're
Speaker 1: in that place where Sachs don't represent havoc Trayvon Walker
Speaker 1: causes we're in that stage of the narrative. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: what do you even when you go number one? That's
Speaker 1: what Mike Tomlin said this week, So I guess he
Speaker 1: was pumping him up, pulling the Belchie.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's like a good run defender and
Speaker 6: a minus pass rusher at this point.
Speaker 5: Number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, back to me, I will grab Oh
Speaker 1: the Snoopy Bowl, it's back the New York Jets favored
Speaker 1: by three first time.
Speaker 5: Gang Green has been favored all season.
Speaker 1: A little fun fact for you traveling or not traveling,
Speaker 1: staying home at the Meadowlands. But they are the road
Speaker 1: team against the g men. Uh, let's see if there's
Speaker 1: a lower over and under this week. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's even close. Yeah, thirty six and a half, Andrew
Speaker 1: Catalan and.
Speaker 6: Falcons Titans with with our backups in Tennessee even a
Speaker 6: little lower Nicks.
Speaker 1: Wow, uh oh, he got Tiki in the booth on
Speaker 1: this that home run.
Speaker 4: Back to back Giants games for Tiki, I know, I
Speaker 4: see you.
Speaker 2: He's got to be professional.
Speaker 1: En not need in the booth for this game. Let's Matt,
Speaker 1: Matt and Andrew can handle this one. Need is strong, Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh So Jets coming off thereby, it's a real it's
Speaker 1: a kind of a gut check situation now for Jets
Speaker 1: fans because you've now bought back in and you are
Speaker 1: believing after the trauma of Week one stealing that game
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, you kind of set yourself up now
Speaker 1: with a schedule softening up to put yourself in a
Speaker 1: good position to make the plauss with Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: the background saying I could come back at the end
Speaker 1: of the season, but these are exactly the type of
Speaker 1: games you gotta win. You can't now show up flat
Speaker 1: as the defense, as good as it's been, has been
Speaker 1: not very good at all early in games, and they
Speaker 1: kind of heat up as things go along. Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: most likely the starting quarterback. Although Daniel Jones is practicing
Speaker 1: on Thursday, he has not been cleared to play. It's
Speaker 1: a very tricky when you're dealing with a neck injury.
Speaker 1: So I expect you're going to see Tyrod again with
Speaker 1: no connection to the medical physicians connected to the Giants.
Speaker 1: But we shall see either way. It's going to be
Speaker 1: interesting to see the Jets offensive, which lost some key
Speaker 1: guys before the buye to injury up against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Pass rush Mark that finally woke up against Washington with
Speaker 1: six sacks after having five the first six weeks. So
Speaker 1: if you get a pass rush against Wilson, you could
Speaker 1: create turnovers and the Giants can hang around. I think
Speaker 1: this will be a low scoring game and it will
Speaker 1: come down to Wilson can continue to build on his
Speaker 1: modest gains in recent week. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Feels like a seventeen to fourteen type situation. I mean,
Speaker 3: two offensive lines, the Jets working around their limitations, the
Speaker 3: Giants a disastrous offensive line. Andrew Thomas did return to
Speaker 3: limited practice. We'll see what happens there. I love this
Speaker 3: for the Jets. DJ Reid coming off with a concussion
Speaker 3: full participant Sauce Gardner full participant. You've got one of
Speaker 3: the deepest, densest, most terrorizing defensive lines in the league
Speaker 3: against a Giants offensive line that has just simply said,
Speaker 3: come and take our quarterback down to the turf five
Speaker 3: to six times a game, week after week. I love
Speaker 3: this for the Jets because I think the there something
Speaker 3: going on with the Jets that is spiritual and strange.
Speaker 3: The Giants to me at zero juice and I'm locking
Speaker 3: up the Jets for the first time in.
Speaker 2: About one thousand years. They're gonna win this night.
Speaker 1: They're doing it.
Speaker 2: They're gonna win it. Are well.
Speaker 5: I don't know why not.
Speaker 4: What's not to like? Their three point favorites here, what's
Speaker 4: not to like?
Speaker 2: What's not to like?
Speaker 1: No, you're right, there's a lot of things pointing to
Speaker 1: the Jets should take care of business.
Speaker 3: But you know, Snoopy Bold nuclear bomb blast occurs on Sunday.
Speaker 6: I'll give you one thing not to like, and that's
Speaker 6: that Tyrod is playing at a higher level than Daniel
Speaker 6: Jones was.
Speaker 4: If Tyrod plays, but.
Speaker 3: Where is he playing relative the rest to the rest
Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks in the league that like twenty fifth,
Speaker 3: twenty six, I would say he'd.
Speaker 6: Be right around the Dalton scale for the two games
Speaker 6: that he's played.
Speaker 4: I mean he's played.
Speaker 2: I'm not scared of tyrod tail guys.
Speaker 8: I have If you want to direct this criticism to
Speaker 8: two groups of people, we have a certain fellow who
Speaker 8: wants to wait.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, wait a minute to the zoo.
Speaker 9: Hello, heroes. I know you're probably surprised to see me.
Speaker 9: Since Phil said he was going to try to take
Speaker 9: this over all the brothers said, yeah, we got the
Speaker 9: lock this week, Nick, we're gonna just do.
Speaker 1: It for a while.
Speaker 9: Send the video in take care of business. Well guess
Speaker 9: what they didn't follow through? Shocking development. I get a
Speaker 9: text for Americ this morning saying, hey, Nick, no one
Speaker 9: sent me a video.
Speaker 5: We don't have a pick.
Speaker 9: I swear I must be hanging out in the ape
Speaker 9: house because I'm working with a bunch of orangutangs here.
Speaker 9: I mean, are you kill me?
Speaker 1: Guess what? Phil?
Speaker 9: You suck, Tim, you suck, Mike, you stink Eddie Larry.
Speaker 9: You're all right because at least you didn't try to
Speaker 9: take it over and do something you knew you weren't
Speaker 9: going to follow through on anyway. I'm gonna do the
Speaker 9: exact opposite of what they would want. I'm walking up
Speaker 9: the Jets. The Giants stink, they're terrible. Fork them, get
Speaker 9: them out of here. The Jets will make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like whenever in the past, whenever Chris Wrestling would agree
Speaker 3: with anything I said about football, I just sit in
Speaker 3: my chair, you mean, and like I feel the same
Speaker 3: right here, friends, I do think who's going to get
Speaker 3: their act together?
Speaker 1: All right? It's just like what is happening? And I
Speaker 1: want everyone to understand with these Westling brothers, none of
Speaker 1: this is made up for the show. Like they fight
Speaker 1: like cats and dogs or ranguetangs and monkeys, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to say. And they are they are settling scores
Speaker 1: on a on a widely heard podcast. I mean one
Speaker 1: of the quotes there from Nick Phil you suck like that?
Speaker 1: I mean that's within the context of I think that
Speaker 1: was well Phil, according to Nick. In fairness, Phil or
Speaker 1: whomever was supposed to provide, though he's coming with a
Speaker 1: lettle of vitriol.
Speaker 5: Because they did record the videos, so.
Speaker 6: Nick wasn't supposed to totally blow the pick last week, either,
Speaker 6: which he did.
Speaker 2: Oh Greg win in that direction, by.
Speaker 1: The way, Sam, Sam Donald, Zach Wilson one interception his
Speaker 1: last one hundred and thirty four attempts.
Speaker 6: His misses are better. I actually think that's like the
Speaker 6: number one thing. His miss it he misses in the
Speaker 6: right spot.
Speaker 5: Also, yes, and and it's related.
Speaker 1: He is hitting the layups now which he couldn't do
Speaker 1: last year, like it, checked downs, things like that. Like
Speaker 1: he he's He's definitely shown improvement the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: Let's see if it continues. I'm worried about the Jets
Speaker 1: in this game. I think the Giants have played much
Speaker 1: better than the last two weeks. I think wing Martin
Speaker 1: Dill is a particular kind of test for a young
Speaker 1: quarterback and a bad offensive line. I think Tyrod's been good.
Speaker 1: I think Saquon helps them. So I just Darren Waller
Speaker 1: is in the mix. To me, it's just it's a
Speaker 1: dangerous game. It's it's a coin flip. Do not do
Speaker 1: not my son as my sons do when they agree.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, this feels like a dangerous game. Good
Speaker 1: luck to Nick and Mark Snakes to me and uh,
Speaker 1: this one, I think, you know, not two losing teams,
Speaker 1: but intrigue vikings at Packers Vikings favored by one on
Speaker 1: the road. So here are the Vikings coming off the
Speaker 1: win of their of their season so far by far.
Speaker 1: They go and knock off the Niners in prime time
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins blazes ours off and absolutely shreds with
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson on the sideline in sunglasses. So he's playing
Speaker 1: with confidence. The Packers, you know, watching watching them this morning,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is tough. Nothing, nothing's easy
Speaker 1: for this team, and they kind of look like they're
Speaker 1: gonna get blown out by the Broncos and it's like
Speaker 1: this is rock bottom and and Greg, they found their
Speaker 1: way back into that game but fell short in the end.
Speaker 1: And it just this has all the feeling right now
Speaker 1: of a developmental season for an organization and a fan
Speaker 1: base that doesn't know what that is. And that's why
Speaker 1: I see a lot of like angst around the Packers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I'm not totally surprising and it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be that this is how the season has played out
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 4: I agree, but I still expected more.
Speaker 6: You know, the Vikings are the better team, and yet
Speaker 6: this does feel like a spot where it's a division game,
Speaker 6: is just Minnesota's coming off of high A lot of
Speaker 6: times it evens out.
Speaker 4: But I think Matt.
Speaker 6: Lafleur is stuck in a weird spot with his offense
Speaker 6: because the Packers just can't run the ball. They were
Speaker 6: supposed to have a really good offensive line. They are
Speaker 6: twenty ninth in run block win rate, and yet they're
Speaker 6: really good protecting Jordan Love. I mean, you watch these
Speaker 6: games and Jordan Love is just chilling back there, and
Speaker 6: I was like, does the eye test matchup with the numbers.
Speaker 6: They're very high in the PFF bringings their second in
Speaker 6: pass block win rate, and they've got these receivers. So
Speaker 6: you're asking Jordan Love to drop back there because that's
Speaker 6: where your offensive line is good, and yet he's not
Speaker 6: always making great decisions. And I think it's tough in
Speaker 6: this matchup, particularly because this Vikings secondary. Their pass defense
Speaker 6: has been fun to watch. Harrison Smith, this three safety
Speaker 6: tandem between him and cam Binam and Josh Mattellus, who
Speaker 6: they just gave a contract to have been really good
Speaker 6: buying him. Was the NFC Defensive Player of the Week. Like,
Speaker 6: do the Packers have answers for FLOORA is cooking up
Speaker 6: his mad you know, blitz packages and different coverages and
Speaker 6: changing posts. That that's a lot to ask of Jordan Love.
Speaker 6: I don't feel great about it.
Speaker 2: I don't like it for Jordan Love in this situation.
Speaker 3: I think you're right about the run game, like they've
Speaker 3: not Aaron Jones has essentially played less than Nick Chubb
Speaker 3: this season.
Speaker 4: He has ninety four yards rushing this year.
Speaker 3: I think that was so key to them because AJ
Speaker 3: Dillon has not been helpful at all. You don't have him,
Speaker 3: Brian Flores defense number one and blitz rate and Harrison Smith.
Speaker 3: Guys like Harris Smith's using them creatively. And I just
Speaker 3: wonder about Jordan Love. The offense to me is looked
Speaker 3: discombobulated in general. There's a lot of just young players
Speaker 3: around him. And is this a situation with if you're
Speaker 3: the Vikings where I think there's just a lot of
Speaker 3: energy on that defense. It showed up last week. You
Speaker 3: got guys like Jordan Addison on offense wilding up. And
Speaker 3: the next four opponents for the Vikings are the Falcon, Saints,
Speaker 3: Broncos and Bears. Could this be the start of a
Speaker 3: run that I think you pointed to Minnesota wise, Dan
Speaker 3: when we didn't get them forked out of this situation
Speaker 3: like they're a weird team. They're still in all these
Speaker 3: one score games. They lost a bunch, but they're starting
Speaker 3: to win them now. Or they can morph into the
Speaker 3: team we saw last year a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the league is filled with parody and
Speaker 1: they can hanging out and win all of those games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a little like Jordan Love, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's playing well at all, and then the numbers
Speaker 1: are backing that up. He has the lowest completion percentage
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They they're averaging I believe, about seventeen
Speaker 1: points a game right now. And so the ball they're
Speaker 1: not moving the ball and and they're not scoring points and.
Speaker 6: The defense is bad. That's the disappointing part for me.
Speaker 6: I guess it's not surprising, but they have a lot
Speaker 6: of good players on their defense, and you know.
Speaker 1: You haven't been bailed out by the running game at all,
Speaker 1: because you've had Aaron Jones has been banged up, like
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon is a leading rusher for this team. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a tough situation for Green Bay.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like you don't just always
Speaker 1: mark just something that is given certain fan bases a
Speaker 1: lot of aggravation. It's like you don't always just to
Speaker 1: keep roll into one dynasty to the next, one era
Speaker 1: to the next, like this is a transition here, Vikings.
Speaker 1: Let's see you take care of business with Kenny, Albert
Speaker 1: and Vilma on the call.
Speaker 5: All right, Mark, it is back to you.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: I could see you saying I'm not taking the greatest
Speaker 3: game here, but it fascinates me on my own level.
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Texans at the Panthers. You've got This
Speaker 3: is a weird note, but this kind of got me
Speaker 3: into it because of course it's Bryce Young versus c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud. Do you know that they met at a middle
Speaker 2: school summer camp?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 1: I was there too.
Speaker 2: Actually were you? I don't think you were unless you
Speaker 2: were a council.
Speaker 3: You're roughly twenty years older than them, but known each
Speaker 3: other for a long time. And it's a bit of
Speaker 3: a study and like two rebuilding teams that each went
Speaker 3: out and got their quarterback. And we know that the
Speaker 3: Panthers are a disaster right now in a lot of
Speaker 3: levels and it's not going well, and you know it's
Speaker 3: too early to really even its hardy even scout Bryce
Speaker 3: Young in the situation he's in, so it's like I
Speaker 3: kind of just see what happens. But Jason, well what
Speaker 3: it's for it, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2: A little bit better.
Speaker 4: Yet he's coming off his best game. CJ.
Speaker 6: Stroud coming off his worst, and that in that particular game,
Speaker 6: I thought Bryce Young played excellent in the first half
Speaker 6: of that game and was fine in the second.
Speaker 3: He's made a couple of passes in every one of
Speaker 3: these games, but also some like massive blunders, and I
Speaker 3: think it's he's in a bad ecosystem.
Speaker 1: The c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud, like Bobby Slowick offense and what they're doing in general,
Speaker 3: Like they've won three of their last four games by
Speaker 3: by seven or more points. They're like turning into a
Speaker 3: real thing. And I know they've been sort of a
Speaker 3: team of ATM like possibility. I think this feels like
Speaker 3: a little bit of a trap game to me, just
Speaker 3: because like Caroline, at some points gonna do it. But
Speaker 3: I just think the Texans to me, under Stroud, like
Speaker 3: they have. I thought, I think they're well coached, that.
Speaker 1: They're pretty you know, fortunate to get out of New
Speaker 1: Orleans there on Thursday night with a tight end dropping
Speaker 1: the ball there, not saying that that that means that
Speaker 1: they didn't deserve to win that game, because they did.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm also not This one kind of was
Speaker 1: on my radart of it because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this would be a game to lock up lock up
Speaker 1: the winless against the winless team. But yeah, I like
Speaker 1: that the that you got Frank whright, got to go
Speaker 1: into the by with Bryce Young coming off a good game,
Speaker 1: and now they can kind of reset things against the
Speaker 1: Houston defense. Greg that while this team has improved, there's
Speaker 1: no reason to think that the Panthers might not have
Speaker 1: success here at home and maybe finally get that first win.
Speaker 1: I think this game they think this could be it.
Speaker 6: They could be it. I know they it doesn't They
Speaker 6: shouldn't be this bad. I think it's a great test
Speaker 6: of you know, first year head coaches coming off of bye.
Speaker 6: In general, I think coming off the bye is a
Speaker 6: great test of coaches. And that they're both doing it
Speaker 6: is interesting. And I mentioned I liked what I saw
Speaker 6: at Bryce Young in a Miami game, especially in the
Speaker 6: first half.
Speaker 4: They had some answers. I am a little worried about
Speaker 4: their pass.
Speaker 6: Protection versus Will Anderson and Jonathan Garnard, who have really
Speaker 6: been a nice tandem. Anderson is one you mentioned. You know,
Speaker 6: we're using the whole Trayvon Walker Saxtony how he's playing
Speaker 6: with will Anderson. It's absolutely true. He is really playing outstanding.
Speaker 6: His hurries, his hits are there with the leaders in
Speaker 6: the league. It hasn't translated to sacks. It has a
Speaker 6: little more for Gernard on the other side. So that's
Speaker 6: a worry, worrisome factor. And I'm gonna go fantasy here.
Speaker 6: It's like, if we're ever gonna get Damian Pearson my
Speaker 6: preseason prediction to be right.
Speaker 4: Ever, this is it.
Speaker 6: There's too many negative runs in this Houston offense. There's
Speaker 6: supposed to be a forty nine ers like offense. So
Speaker 6: many and this is the worst run defense in the
Speaker 6: entire NFL. It's one of the very worst defenses in general.
Speaker 6: That's a big reason why they're owing six nice said
Speaker 6: Bryce Young doesn't get you know, it's not his fault
Speaker 6: that they're the worst run defense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And what a nice uh, what a nice pickup for
Speaker 1: fantasy owners. And feeling turning into like garbage stats monster.
Speaker 1: I wonder it would be with the trade deadline coming up,
Speaker 1: it would be really nice to see the Panthers maybe
Speaker 1: pull something off and get another playmaker there.
Speaker 3: And it sounds like they want to. They've they've been
Speaker 3: talked about for a couple of weeks. Is wanting a
Speaker 3: wide receiver. That's gonna change.
Speaker 5: Let us see.
Speaker 1: And by the way, to your point, Will Anderson, he's
Speaker 1: just got one sack, but eight QB hits. That's tied
Speaker 1: for most on the team, second most QB hits in
Speaker 1: NFL among rookies. I don't know if you know who
Speaker 1: would have the most hits amongst rookies QB hit Yalen
Speaker 1: Carter Byron Young of the La Rams.
Speaker 6: Well, nice nic agent zero, I think they call him.
Speaker 6: By the way, Texans three point favorites. All right, let's
Speaker 6: move to Greg Okay, I'm gonna take I got a
Speaker 6: certain strategy this Sunday. It's a weird sunny Falcons Titans.
Speaker 6: Falcons are two and a half point favorites on the
Speaker 6: road against the Titans. Let's review the Titans quarterback situation.
Speaker 6: Our guy Ian Rabbitport reported Will Levis is being prepared
Speaker 6: to start multiple times all week. And this was on
Speaker 6: my raidar Mike Rabel came out and said, we're preparing
Speaker 6: both players to play. And when he said that, I
Speaker 6: was like, does that mean that Levis is starting? But
Speaker 6: they've sort of got some fun plays for Malik Phyllis.
Speaker 6: And then the reporters locally came back with him saying, hey,
Speaker 6: your guy rap sheet. Maybe you knew him back when
Speaker 6: he was a Patriots reporter. Maybe not not sure if
Speaker 6: they crossed paths. Okay, he reported, well, Levis is starting,
Speaker 6: what do you say? He's like, I'm preparing both players play,
Speaker 6: So I think we know Levis starting a little bit
Speaker 6: of Willis. And then Tannehill showed up at practice Thursday
Speaker 6: trying or Wednesday trying to do some stuff, and I
Speaker 6: never you never know, so we could see him. I
Speaker 6: just wanted to update you on the quarterbacks. Thank you
Speaker 6: for the Tennessee Titan, and maybe we can put.
Speaker 1: Some like Halloween harror music under that, because I have
Speaker 1: to say, like, does this ever work? Like, oh, Team
Speaker 1: X planning to use multiple quarterbacks on Sunday, It's like
Speaker 1: good luck. It's like we don't have a quarterback we
Speaker 1: like enough to actually play, So we're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: kitchen sink it and hope something happens, but you also
Speaker 1: you get it because Malik Willis, you know, God love him,
Speaker 1: has been a disaster and what we've seen of him
Speaker 1: as a pro so far. And now Levis, who is
Speaker 1: touted as a guy with tools but raw and needs
Speaker 1: needs time to develop. Now you're gonna now develop means here,
Speaker 1: welcome to week eight. You're now playing in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So I think maybe Rabel greg is trying to keep
Speaker 1: his options open knowing that you know, both of those
Speaker 1: things can get hairy. So maybe if we will little
Speaker 1: this little of that.
Speaker 3: Wait, there's got no evidence that Mike Rabel is in
Speaker 3: support of Malik Willis as his quarterback on any level.
Speaker 3: It dates back to last season when they got Josh
Speaker 3: Dobb zero.
Speaker 1: Zero chance Derek Henry doesn't get out of this game
Speaker 1: without throwing a pass, Well.
Speaker 2: That may be their best option.
Speaker 3: I mean coming out of the London game, Like, the
Speaker 3: most striking visuals we saw were Ryan tannilent tandle getting
Speaker 3: destroyed by the Ravens. So it's like, not a good
Speaker 3: all offensive line. Malik Willis has shown us nothing. Well, Levis,
Speaker 3: like you didn't beat out Malik Willis in camp. That's
Speaker 3: a bit concerning. I mean, I like the idea. I'm
Speaker 3: a little bit better, I think if you're in reverse.
Speaker 3: If the Falcons are ever going to run the ball well,
Speaker 3: like in the last couple of weeks, the Colts ran
Speaker 3: over for one hundred and ninety three yards. Last week
Speaker 3: the Ravens crushed the Titans for one hundred and thirty nine.
Speaker 3: If the Falcons are ever going to do this, maybe
Speaker 3: it's this week because they've been a good run deem myself.
Speaker 1: How's our friend, how's our front beijon this week? Is
Speaker 1: he physically is he practicing? Is he?
Speaker 6: I think he's expected to play. But they're not a
Speaker 6: good running team. I mean, he's a great running back,
Speaker 6: but they're not a good running team. They've been more
Speaker 6: effective throwing the ball, except for the plays where Desmond
Speaker 6: Rider gives it away like Ritter is coming off, you know,
Speaker 6: the best two game stretch of his career. But it's
Speaker 6: just crazy that, like, oh wow, Desmond Ridder making nice throws.
Speaker 6: He did it last week. I was impressed with a
Speaker 6: lot of his throws, and then he just kills you
Speaker 6: with the mistakes.
Speaker 1: The timing of the mistakes, Yeah, three red zone turnovers
Speaker 1: last week and they're averaging thirteen points the game.
Speaker 6: But they also could be five and three after this week.
Speaker 6: They are favored. You know, I think Colleen was on
Speaker 6: to something. All Right, Greg snakes to you, all right.
Speaker 4: I am going to take the Saints and.
Speaker 6: The Colts alright, a rematch of one of my favorite
Speaker 6: Super Bowls of all time a long time ago.
Speaker 4: Now it was Saints are one point favorites on the road.
Speaker 6: Don't like that. I like the underdog in this game.
Speaker 6: I think the Colts are a better team overall, and
Speaker 6: I think the Saints. There's just a lot going on
Speaker 6: with this Saints team. Defensively, they can lock you up.
Speaker 6: But I really liked what I saw out of Indianapolis
Speaker 6: in terms of their ground game and what they got
Speaker 6: going with Jonathan Taylor and the way Shanstiken can change
Speaker 6: his game plan from week to week. And I think's
Speaker 6: health really gives them a lot of options.
Speaker 4: Minshew.
Speaker 6: He's not going to be Anthony Richardson, but he can
Speaker 6: at least provide a little bit of run threat on
Speaker 6: some of those fakes that work well enough. And I
Speaker 6: just think they've been a tough minded team for the
Speaker 6: most part, and the Saints are not a tough minded
Speaker 6: team in my mind.
Speaker 3: Minshew ran the ball really well against Cleveland and it
Speaker 3: was like design run territories, and I think he gives
Speaker 3: them that. I mean, it's been a couple sort of
Speaker 3: somewhat atypical weeks for Minshe because of the giveaways coming
Speaker 3: into this season, like his touchdown to interception ratio was
Speaker 3: pretty spectacular, and the mistakes have cropped up and they've
Speaker 3: coached around it a little bit. I would also say
Speaker 3: that he's had a really nice connection with Josh Downs,
Speaker 3: who has been great as a rookie for them, and
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman two and so there's the big plays are happening,
Speaker 3: and I think the biggest development there is that Jonathan
Speaker 3: Taylor against Cleveland looked like the Jonathan Taylor that we've
Speaker 3: waited for, and that can change everything for them.
Speaker 1: Minshew has thrown four innerse options targeting Michael Pittman for
Speaker 1: next gen stacks, and then Michael Pittman came out after
Speaker 1: the loss last week and said, maybe I'm not like
Speaker 1: an important guy in this offense. Erase the dryboard. Because
Speaker 1: the wide receiver has spoken about being unhappy. So you
Speaker 1: know what happens, because you saw what happened last week
Speaker 1: with Tomtay Adams, they will funnel targets to Pittman to
Speaker 1: try to keep him happy.
Speaker 4: Let's give him some credit.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 6: On Wednesday, unprompted, he all the reporters over and said, like, man,
Speaker 6: I was in my head Sunday, I was kind of
Speaker 6: being an ass and apologize.
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say he was being an ass. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm a sore loser. Like I don't, I hate losing,
Speaker 1: and like I get that.
Speaker 6: Is a culpa though, unprompted, So I give it to
Speaker 6: Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: He had a heart to heart with Chris Alave and
Speaker 1: so they've had very productive conversations this week and they
Speaker 1: had a great week of practice. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens with that. I felt real bad for that wide
Speaker 1: receiver on Thursday night the drop, and I like seeing
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara take him off the field because he was
Speaker 1: just sitting alone on the bench at the game long over.
Speaker 1: Good leadership from Kamara. And then my last thought, because
Speaker 1: we don't get to talk about Thursday night football when
Speaker 1: we're not on the games, Greg Kamara is fascinating in
Speaker 1: this offense because he just gets the ball constantly, and
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, who's never been afraid of a checkdown, now
Speaker 1: has one of the great checkdown running backs of his
Speaker 1: era in Kamara. It was tough to watch Kamara unable
Speaker 1: to crack that end zone. I know he's hyper productive,
Speaker 1: but the old Kamara in that game finds the goal
Speaker 1: line and gets himself over. That's the slight difference with
Speaker 1: him that he doesn't have that same whatever it is,
Speaker 1: is just a little bit off where he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that same nose for the end zone, which he was
Speaker 1: unparalleled a few years back.
Speaker 6: I agree with you, he's not forcing as many mistackles,
Speaker 6: but five or six of those throws were Carr coming
Speaker 6: to the checkdown too quickly.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm kind of referring to that one red zone driver.
Speaker 1: They said, I'm going to give you the ball four
Speaker 1: times aka get in, and he didn't.
Speaker 5: But he's a PPR most so I'll tell you that
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 1: Uh And oh, one last note, Ersay, owner of the Cults,
Speaker 1: came out and said that the NFL, Now this is
Speaker 1: what the owner of the coult said. Yeah, that the
Speaker 1: NFL said both those calls were wrong late against Cleveland,
Speaker 1: both against the same defensive back. His name is escaping
Speaker 1: me as anybody recall it, both the defensive holding against
Speaker 1: Cooper and then the PI when the ball was almost
Speaker 1: thrown into the front row. It was it Dallas Baker
Speaker 1: doesn't help. It doesn't help the standings. But I guess
Speaker 1: if I'm a cult span, I'm like, Okay, at least
Speaker 1: the NFL said we boofed it.
Speaker 6: Well, but they're also going to find j Mersey based
Speaker 6: on past precedent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, publicly, which he doesn't care.
Speaker 3: That's fine, But I like Anders says things you don't
Speaker 3: want him to say.
Speaker 2: We all get that.
Speaker 1: He says things, Oh you would care, you would care
Speaker 1: Roberts if it was the bills.
Speaker 4: Right, I liked it.
Speaker 2: It came out and said this.
Speaker 4: I liked it.
Speaker 1: He did that. You want your owner to hold the
Speaker 1: NFL's feet to the fire if they if they boof it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course that was more. I don't care that
Speaker 8: I'm getting fined as Jim he's printing money. He doesn't
Speaker 8: care about. You know, it's always good for them to
Speaker 8: like speak up about a mistake. But yeah, that was
Speaker 8: more of a first not caring about it.
Speaker 6: I like you when Eric, when you wear this uh
Speaker 6: buttons up Bill's bills, buttoned up Polo, it really pops.
Speaker 8: You know, I don't I want to dress up for
Speaker 8: game day, but I just don't like wearing a jersey
Speaker 8: around the office.
Speaker 1: Take down that one lapel Breasa hart side, Yeah, down
Speaker 1: a little bit. There we go, there you go, and
Speaker 1: look how clean that mustache is cleaned up? You know,
Speaker 1: it looks good. This is why you watch the YouTube.
Speaker 4: Show do you put wax on it? Product? It's curious Thursday.
Speaker 8: I know there might be some camera time on Thursday,
Speaker 8: so you get it, you know, yeah, any of the
Speaker 8: guys are.
Speaker 1: At all the time.
Speaker 4: He'll be down there and makeup, and.
Speaker 1: There's a Tyson Pagent thing going on right now, because
Speaker 1: look how clean cut Roberts looks. And then you know,
Speaker 1: you start, you know, pulling up the sleeve or you
Speaker 1: see him in a pair of shorts, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, am I at the Bikers Association
Speaker 1: of America.
Speaker 8: Got to see me on the weekend for SHO I
Speaker 8: would say that this show is a history of producers
Speaker 8: for increasing and increasing camera time as the months go on,
Speaker 8: and I'm not.
Speaker 2: When you got Eric in that tornado, I.
Speaker 1: Think you've you've really maneuvered yourself very well, Eric, and
Speaker 1: you're doing a great job as our producer. Mark back
Speaker 1: to you, all right.
Speaker 2: I'll take Patriots at Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Patriots getting nine and a half in this huge, like
Speaker 3: season saving or salvaging victory against the Bills. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they can, if they could do it, if
Speaker 3: they could ever pull it off in Miami, that would
Speaker 3: be wild. I feel like the dating back to like
Speaker 3: the middle of the eighteen hundreds, weird things happen to
Speaker 3: the Patriots in Miami.
Speaker 1: Usually not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, weird things be like a typical.
Speaker 6: Trying to make a tackle on a return. Yeah, that
Speaker 6: those sort of things.
Speaker 3: I feel like those things don't matter, but then they
Speaker 3: kind of just seems to happen every year. I I
Speaker 3: do look back at their first game though, where I
Speaker 3: think Miami against Philadelphia, and like the two winning teams
Speaker 3: they've faced, they lost both of them. I don't know
Speaker 3: what that tells me about the Dolphins. It's a little concerning.
Speaker 3: They couldn't run the ball last week. I think it's
Speaker 3: really important that someone like Raheem Mostert who blew up
Speaker 3: for one hundred and twenty one yards and two touchdowns
Speaker 3: with a forty three yard scamper against New England, like simper,
Speaker 3: If you can do that, like, you're fine, You're absolutely fine,
Speaker 3: because the only other thing about their offense, like most
Speaker 3: actually did not practice. He's got a banged up ankle.
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill has a banged up hip. It's like if
Speaker 3: you start to lose parts like then it's Mike McDaniel's challenge,
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniels challenge to get out of not being able
Speaker 3: to do what he's done week after week. But I'm
Speaker 3: leaning on the concept that what happened against New England
Speaker 3: had a lot to do with the Bills being in
Speaker 3: a funk and some of their strengths maybe working against Buffalo.
Speaker 3: But to do it two weeks in a row, I
Speaker 3: can't get on.
Speaker 2: Board with that.
Speaker 6: Tyreekho did return on Thursday, which great news because the
Speaker 6: vibes didn't sound great with him right on Wednesday. But
Speaker 6: it sounds like he'll be back for this game. It's
Speaker 6: a big time test, I think for both coaches. I
Speaker 6: think playing Belichick the second time is a unique test
Speaker 6: in general in the afcast, but it goes the other
Speaker 6: way too, so McDaniel and him having to go against
Speaker 6: each other twice in such a short time. I think
Speaker 6: you look at what the Patriots did last time they played,
Speaker 6: which was just back the hell up and try to
Speaker 6: prevent the big play and slow it down.
Speaker 4: And they did an okay job at that.
Speaker 6: But I think they'll look at what Philadelphia did and
Speaker 6: was really effective and I think really interesting, which is
Speaker 6: Philadelphia really sold out to stop the run. They also
Speaker 6: played almost entirely in zone coverage and they were in
Speaker 6: cover too, just totally backed up trying to prevent the
Speaker 6: big play. I mean, mostly everyone does that, but they
Speaker 6: really made a point to have a lot of guys
Speaker 6: on the line of scrimmage and prevent the run from
Speaker 6: getting going and put them in long yardage situations. It's
Speaker 6: an interesting way to attack the Dolphins and it worked
Speaker 6: quite well.
Speaker 1: Massive, Massive, and I buy into this trap game implications
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins coming off Philadelphia in primetime, you get
Speaker 1: the Pats at home, and then you go to Kansas
Speaker 1: City next week in primetime to Germany. Oh shoot, that's right,
Speaker 1: nine thirty am.
Speaker 2: Lower Prime.
Speaker 1: They're in Germany for christ sake. So the idea they're
Speaker 1: they're trying to find their passports on Saturday on Saturday
Speaker 1: night when maybe they should be studying what's going on
Speaker 1: with the Patriots team. That this is gonna sound silly,
Speaker 1: but it is a fact as a fact they had
Speaker 1: when things were in They are the little rock bottom
Speaker 1: moment there, that two week stretch, Greggie, which is very
Speaker 1: tough for you and the and the Pats fans. Thirty
Speaker 1: eight three thirty four zip they have had since they've
Speaker 1: had the Buffalo win, and in general, every other game
Speaker 1: other than those two, it's been the loss has been
Speaker 1: seven points or less. So it's not they and they
Speaker 1: they did they did less than six weeks ago kind
Speaker 1: of shut down the Miami tack or slow it down.
Speaker 1: So while this certainly certainly could be twenty one nothing
Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter, I guess it's
Speaker 1: just that old Belichick maybe has something up a sleeve,
Speaker 1: and the Miami has yet to earn the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt that they could roll over anybody they want.
Speaker 1: I see them rolling over certain teams and not others.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the Dolpins.
Speaker 3: Well, so they destroyed, no doubt, But I I just
Speaker 3: I refuse to accept that the Patriots, like especially on offense,
Speaker 3: have been reborn.
Speaker 2: I mean prior to the Bills game.
Speaker 3: Their point totals last four weeks for fifteen points three
Speaker 3: they got shut out by the Saints, give me a break,
Speaker 3: and seventeen against the Well.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that the offense the Patriots offen. I
Speaker 1: just think like, you got you gotta find it. Dolphins
Speaker 1: can run though.
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins can do it with moster like, you've
Speaker 3: got to find a way to hang around with Miami.
Speaker 4: And I just like, how is well they're in New
Speaker 4: England's way out there, They're a different offense.
Speaker 1: They've already done it.
Speaker 6: They they've gotten their offensive line healthier, so and when
Speaker 6: they were playing right tackle really shores up what I
Speaker 6: was saying was the weakest position in football. And then
Speaker 6: Cole Stranger attorney at I think they have a good
Speaker 6: starting good enough starting five now in the offensive line
Speaker 6: and that was a problem.
Speaker 4: And then uh, we got Pop Douglas.
Speaker 6: Mark We're a different team here with Pop Douglas.
Speaker 1: Doug It's crazy.
Speaker 6: That a late round rookie, like you know, gadget looking
Speaker 6: type of player is obviously the best and most explosive
Speaker 6: offensive player on the Patriots.
Speaker 4: It's not even like a question.
Speaker 6: He's literally the only one on the team that can
Speaker 6: make anyone miss.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: They also don't have Christian Gonzales, who played really well
Speaker 6: in that first game, helping out against Tyreek Hill, and
Speaker 6: instead you got J C. Jackson, who's thinking, I already
Speaker 6: got roasted by Tyreek Hill in Week one with the Chargers.
Speaker 6: Now I get traded to another team, then I gotta
Speaker 6: go deal with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4: That's not fun.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a break and we'll close out
Speaker 1: the draft. All right, we're back. Let's close this thing.
Speaker 5: Out back to back. Pick those got five games.
Speaker 1: I only got two eyes, folks. We'll have to work
Speaker 1: that out. Let's start interesting, all right, So there are
Speaker 1: the two teams in the Super Bowl. Are from last
Speaker 1: year are available? Is that right? That's how this this
Speaker 1: ended up?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the opponents.
Speaker 1: Let's start with uh, And let's start with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: at the Broncos. Chiefs getting seven points here as they should,
Speaker 1: in fact, a little generous for the Broncos. So now
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos have played better. I think, like the Patriots,
Speaker 1: we've probably seen probably seen the worst of them this year,
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna start kind of figuring things out,
Speaker 1: hanging in games and not being a laughing stock. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was interesting to see certain
Speaker 1: things with the Chiefs offense. You saw vintage Travis Kelcey
Speaker 1: last week for the kind of first time where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's the dude. You saw vintage Mahomes, who you know,
Speaker 1: his ability is peerless, ability to just manipulate and full defenses.
Speaker 1: With his ability outside the pocket, I mean, he's at
Speaker 1: his peak form and just creating big plays just with
Speaker 1: his eyes and his legs and his hanny ability to
Speaker 1: know exactly where the line of scrimmage is.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you have Rashid Rice, who they've been waiting.
Speaker 1: Who is the guy that's gonna step up? It's Rice
Speaker 1: and you look at all the data points behind it
Speaker 1: his ability. He's their slot guy now, and he is
Speaker 1: their yards after catch guy over the middle, and he's
Speaker 1: filling He's filling a very important role if this stays
Speaker 1: where it is. So everybody talked about Cadarius Tony before
Speaker 1: the season. He's just a guy. He will always be
Speaker 1: just a guy and they maybe even can use someone
Speaker 1: else Greg with the trade deadline coming up. Nicole Hardman
Speaker 1: is is just a guy himself. But you're starting to
Speaker 1: see the chief.
Speaker 4: Guys though, they get rid of something, bringing anyone in.
Speaker 1: You you gotta, you gotta, you gotta say the Chiefs
Speaker 1: might be starting to figure it out on offense again,
Speaker 1: and with that defense that they're paired with, they're scary.
Speaker 6: They you know, are the Super Bowl favorites. I am, oh, hey,
Speaker 6: all right, we got we got all the youth culture.
Speaker 6: Now cut that for social media. You don't need to
Speaker 6: know more than Patrick Mahomes and with one of the
Speaker 6: better defensive league, that's all you need to know. And
Speaker 6: the fact that the offense is coming off a good game.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say the offense is back though,
Speaker 6: because just two weeks ago against this very same Broncos team,
Speaker 6: who at the time had a historically bad defense, the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: Offense didn't really maybe figured out.
Speaker 6: Yes, I tend to agree, because again it's Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 6: and in a really good offensive line. So that's the
Speaker 6: mismatch to me, and that's ultimately the problem for the
Speaker 6: rest of the NFL is the Chiefs pass protection has
Speaker 6: been incredible this year, and you have a matchup this
Speaker 6: week where it's like, okay, you want to throw Nick
Speaker 6: Benito and Zach Allen and Jonathan Cooper at us, like okay,
Speaker 6: good luck with that. I have a feeling we're scoring
Speaker 6: more than nineteen points this time around.
Speaker 4: I don't like the two matchups in three weeks.
Speaker 6: I know the NFL scheduled makers are in a tough spot,
Speaker 6: and it happens once or twice a year spots.
Speaker 1: Now I think remember it used to be like they
Speaker 1: put them in a conference room with cigarettes and you know,
Speaker 1: sendence takeout for three months and lock the door and
Speaker 1: figure out the schedule your ghouls.
Speaker 5: And now it's just like a I figured out matchups.
Speaker 2: It is primarily done by a We were not a human.
Speaker 6: We were just in London doing this recap like a
Speaker 6: week ago.
Speaker 4: It feels like it is silly.
Speaker 6: It maybe the Denver defense, though now Mark is is normal.
Speaker 6: I don't know, Well, two weeks they played normal.
Speaker 3: They did, you know, nineteen points against the Chiefs, seventeen
Speaker 3: against a pretty shaky Packers offense. I'm not taking too
Speaker 3: much from any of that, but I think that you
Speaker 3: look at like what heck occurred in that game when
Speaker 3: they played them just days ago. It feels like Travis
Speaker 3: Kelcey had a huge, monster performance. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: that can happen again, no problem. And it's like, in
Speaker 3: what area does Denver outshine Kansas City on any level?
Speaker 4: It's like they haven't beat him in how many years?
Speaker 2: Sixteen straight losses? Patrick, there is not at all.
Speaker 6: They didn't have Justin No, they did have Justin Simmons
Speaker 6: back for that, they go, Yeah, the interception.
Speaker 3: Over Mahomes is twenty nine and three versus the AFC
Speaker 3: West and sixteen straight wins over the Broncos.
Speaker 2: They don't match up well.
Speaker 3: And this is one of the messier versions of the
Speaker 3: Broncos defense we've seen.
Speaker 1: I think if you're Sean McVay and note Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: you're just like, how do I get out of here
Speaker 1: without being humiliated again? And it is the scary thing
Speaker 1: I think Greg is we say things like the Chiefs
Speaker 1: you know recently is two weeks ago. They're still funky.
Speaker 1: They are still second in total yards, they are first
Speaker 1: and third down percentage, they are six tied for six
Speaker 1: and points per game like, and that's after a kind
Speaker 1: of slow start. Yep, I think there is going to
Speaker 1: be a greg There could be a conversation and we
Speaker 1: should move on. But when we're at in Vegas for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, God willing, is this the best Chiefs
Speaker 1: team yet?
Speaker 5: That is going to be maybe the narrative around the AFC.
Speaker 6: Well, they're gonna have to show me more offensively, but
Speaker 6: certainly the best defense. And know, by the way, they
Speaker 6: added Charles a Menaheue who's been a very productive player
Speaker 6: off of his suspension for domestic violence last week and
Speaker 6: he had, you know, an immediate impact for their for
Speaker 6: their team this run. By the way, the Broncos, they're
Speaker 6: running offense very good. Yeah, they did a nice job
Speaker 6: showcasing Judy and Sutton last week. They both had nice games.
Speaker 6: The offense is actually average. I don't know if that's
Speaker 6: good enough, but the offense is okay. So it's a
Speaker 6: showcase day. We're gonna showcase Judy and Sutton for the deadline?
Speaker 1: Please can we just And I hated it when it
Speaker 1: happened in seven. I hated in the moment had happened
Speaker 1: when a Raiders future Hall of Famer got traded and
Speaker 1: was all of a sudden playing with one of the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks of all time, and Randy Moss and Tom
Speaker 1: Brady made beautiful magic. Maybe it's not for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine DeVante Adams, Well.
Speaker 4: Why would they do that.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna help out Risper about that on this show.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, for fun thinking about them together.
Speaker 4: That would be true.
Speaker 6: Davis is not. I actually think he is rightful enough.
Speaker 6: He would never allow that to happen, is he.
Speaker 1: Though we don't know Mark like we knew Al I
Speaker 1: hang out.
Speaker 2: I didn't meet Mark Davis at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You hang out with them in the bars a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 6: AFC West is not helping out the Chiefs as they
Speaker 6: clinched their seventeen.
Speaker 1: You know what. Another thing, if you want to talk
Speaker 1: about traits of the Raiders historically unpredictable, you're right. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I would like well, I would love actually
Speaker 1: my favorite teams in the AFC, So I don't want
Speaker 1: to see this, but it would be fun as hell.
Speaker 1: It's they do need another wide receive the.
Speaker 2: Juiciest landing spot for DeVante Adams by.
Speaker 1: Far, which is why we did not even bring it
Speaker 1: up in the year the GM segment. Well done by
Speaker 1: all involved. All Right, finally Eagles at Commanders, your fifth game.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I am not looking forward to the post
Speaker 6: show rejiggering.
Speaker 4: This is confusing.
Speaker 5: That's blame the AI bots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they stuck it to us.
Speaker 1: He did it.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Sam Howell is uh, he's he's gonna be the He's
Speaker 1: gonna be the decider here whether this game is a
Speaker 1: blowout or not. If he's throwing the ball for grabs
Speaker 1: and he's running for his life. Terrible job by the
Speaker 1: offensive line against the Giants, then uh, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some turnovers and then the Eagles are going to just
Speaker 1: start humming and this is going to be grim. But
Speaker 1: GREGI are we still on the point where we're a
Speaker 1: little bit noivous about the Philly offense. We're just talking
Speaker 1: about KC.
Speaker 6: Okay, No, I mean there there are a little meat
Speaker 6: and potatoes. It's not a lot of variation. I think
Speaker 6: it was interesting that Vic Fangio was in that building
Speaker 6: and knows that team. You know, he made a very
Speaker 6: similar approach to what the Eagles did defensively, and he
Speaker 6: really played it. They played in base defense the whole game,
Speaker 6: and they said we're gonna stop your running game if
Speaker 6: at all possible, and we think we have a better
Speaker 6: chance of winning if Hurtz is throwing the ball down
Speaker 6: the field. And they did get a couple of turnovers
Speaker 6: out of it, and that to me is telling. I
Speaker 6: just don't know if the Commanders are set up to
Speaker 6: possibly do it. They didn't do it when they played
Speaker 6: earlier this year, but neither of the Eagles defense. The
Speaker 6: worst performance by the Eagles defense all season was against
Speaker 6: these Commanders. They actually didn't really get after Sam Howell
Speaker 6: that well, and that that game, same Howl was kind
Speaker 6: of throwing the ball all over the field.
Speaker 4: There was a fun game.
Speaker 6: This matchup over the last few years, including the Commanders
Speaker 6: you know win over them last year, has been you know,
Speaker 6: very close down to the wires. Just one of those
Speaker 6: division matchups. So I think six and a half points
Speaker 6: a little too much for washing for.
Speaker 3: They it might be, I mean, like Howell, they may
Speaker 3: not have gotten to him in the way that he's
Speaker 3: been gotten to another games, but he was pressured twenty
Speaker 3: seven times by the Eagles, which.
Speaker 2: Is twenty seven, tied for the most.
Speaker 1: How many quarters did they play?
Speaker 3: Man right, it was tied for the most in a
Speaker 3: game by any player in twenty twenty three, other than
Speaker 3: the fact that he was tied with himself against in
Speaker 3: that terrible Buffalo game for a Howell.
Speaker 4: So they didn't finish those plays and not enough that
Speaker 4: they didn't.
Speaker 3: But I also think it's like all every week after week,
Speaker 3: it's like, is the offense rounding into shape?
Speaker 2: I just look at the defense.
Speaker 3: They allowed under two hundre yards passing to the Dolphins
Speaker 3: forty five on the ground.
Speaker 2: We talked about how they did that.
Speaker 1: Hurts.
Speaker 2: The giveaways have been the issue.
Speaker 3: But Hurts is playing awesome otherwise, Like I'm not really
Speaker 3: it's not like, oh, last year, maybe not be exactly
Speaker 3: what we're gonna consistently. Like Hurts is doing incredible things.
Speaker 3: It's been a couple of flurry of giveaways that have
Speaker 3: caused problems.
Speaker 6: That you in that game though, So that that is
Speaker 6: something to watch. He's definitely playing this week, but just
Speaker 6: something to watch whether he's as mobile, whether he can
Speaker 6: run the ball as much, because that would change their
Speaker 6: offense quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And let's let's give him some love because he deserves
Speaker 1: it and Greg loves it. He has major fantasy implications
Speaker 1: Greg was like a schoolboy when we were in the
Speaker 1: theater room watching aj Brown do it again in primetime.
Speaker 1: This man seven hundred and one yards since Week three,
Speaker 1: receiving five consecutive games with at least one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five yards. Wow through the air. That ties them
Speaker 1: with Calvin Johnson and Mark somebody that played when you
Speaker 1: were in elementary school. Pat stud still the nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: six Lions for the longest streak I was.
Speaker 2: Not even on the earth, but continue in with.
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty five plus receiving yards in edfall history.
Speaker 1: And like what I was saying with Ceedee Lamb, he
Speaker 1: is like like his counterpart rest in peace, the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three Phillies Bryce Harper, like he's the showman. Like
Speaker 1: when they need a big play, they just he's just got.
Speaker 1: He's just a killer. He is a killer for this
Speaker 1: Philly offense and is definitely in the running for Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Ooh, how can he not be?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course, I would say, like you, you
Speaker 3: just can't drop this. If you're the Eagles, your schedule
Speaker 3: is Oh, they'll take care of it.
Speaker 2: Well they will, I agree, Obi.
Speaker 3: This one's coming up though Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Niners, Cowboys Seahawks.
Speaker 5: Six and a half. We said, yeah, that was a spread.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a dangerous one. I'm not I'm not like
Speaker 4: racking it up.
Speaker 6: It's an interesting one for Washington too, though, just because
Speaker 6: again trade deadline. It's fairly on my raidar they need
Speaker 6: to push back the trade deadline two weeks.
Speaker 1: But Washington going to that.
Speaker 6: There's this whole idea that Chase Young could get traded
Speaker 6: or maybe someone else from this team, and it makes sense.
Speaker 6: But it's like, is Ron Rivera making the decisions? Because
Speaker 6: Ron Rivera knows he's out at the end of this year,
Speaker 6: so who would be making him make any trades? Because
Speaker 6: if I'm Ron Rivera, I'm not trading a thing. What
Speaker 6: does a second round pick next year do any good
Speaker 6: for me? But if they're three and five, maybe there's
Speaker 6: pressure from above saying you got it, you gotta make
Speaker 6: a move.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, it's new ownership, so I don't know what the
Speaker 3: relationship is there in terms of telling Ron Rivera what
Speaker 3: he has to do. But Martin Mayhew doesn't strike me
Speaker 3: as like a super empowered general manner.
Speaker 4: No, it's Rivera. It's Rivera making the calls.
Speaker 1: Buyer up your Philadelphia defenses in fantasy because they're getting
Speaker 1: after Sam Howell and they're gonna be playing from behind
Speaker 1: Why Washington and he's going to start throwing it up
Speaker 1: for grabs and it could be grizzly.
Speaker 4: I love that for the Eagles, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Greg? Another fan? Another team on the list? All right, Eagles, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Ravens on an island. Only one team can continue to exist.
Speaker 6: It's really not about one team. It's about one man.
Speaker 6: So it's the Seahawks right now.
Speaker 2: Geno trumps all Oh, I just want it.
Speaker 4: It's been an amazing journey.
Speaker 1: Why is it so personal though? The love?
Speaker 6: It's been a fun journey, and it's like, for you,
Speaker 6: how fun can this get?
Speaker 4: Because this team is kind of frisky?
Speaker 6: Can he can he be in a big spot in
Speaker 6: a divisional round game?
Speaker 4: That would be fun like that.
Speaker 1: Let's first, we want to see how far the Geno
Speaker 1: coaster goes.
Speaker 3: I wish we had an AI service that could tell us,
Speaker 3: like who's been mentioned the most over the last like
Speaker 3: eighteen months, because it's got to be Geno Smith number
Speaker 3: one and then the number two half as many times.
Speaker 1: Rogers got a lot of play this summer, but this podcast,
Speaker 1: Jordan takes up there. Jordan is up there, all right,
Speaker 1: good stuff, good stuff. We will be back Thursday night,
Speaker 1: Mark and I with recap of Thursday night football, a
Speaker 1: matchup between.
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