Speaker 1: As a lead fifteen to ten touchdown.
Speaker 2: Chargers, what's up, guys. We're back with a Week eight
Speaker 2: edition of Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by Matt Muney Smith.
Speaker 2: Chargers trying to look ahead. Here Sunday night football against
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, coming off yet another loss to the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, and money. We're taping this on a Thursday.
Speaker 2: There's been so much dialogue about this game from the
Speaker 2: time it ended to President. I don't know how much
Speaker 2: you want to dig into it, but you know, I
Speaker 2: could just kind of quickly put a button on it
Speaker 2: on my end and let you go. Like the offense
Speaker 2: was good in the first half, they weren't in the second.
Speaker 2: The defense was not good in the first half. They
Speaker 2: were better in the second. Special teams had a missqueue
Speaker 2: with the McCole Hardman punt return and just the complimentary
Speaker 2: football was off man. And usually we're used to seeing
Speaker 2: one possession football games against Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: This was not. It was close.
Speaker 3: You know, it was close, and that's when when you
Speaker 3: think back to last year, you know, starting last year,
Speaker 3: that's just we haven't seen it. We have not seen
Speaker 3: that type of punt return in a long time, you know,
Speaker 3: and so it just unfortunately came at the wrong moment,
Speaker 3: and that's how you end up getting the two score game. Otherwise,
Speaker 3: you know, that thing was a one score game the
Speaker 3: entire second half. The defense had finally bowed up, and
Speaker 3: it was a very odd game. And that the offense
Speaker 3: traded punches, you know, with the Chiefs possession for possession,
Speaker 3: they go field goal, Chargers field goal, they go touchdown,
Speaker 3: Chargers go touchdown, they go touchdown, Chargers go touchdown. And
Speaker 3: then at the end of the first and it just
Speaker 3: goes to show you. I think it's such a good
Speaker 3: reminder of like how hard it is to beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: You know, the Chargers get that interception and they're moving
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: Now get take lead.
Speaker 3: Now I can really put your foot on the gas
Speaker 3: and pass goes through Keenan's hands. That would have put
Speaker 3: him into plus territory. We never see that, right, he's
Speaker 3: on that crosser right in the middle. That thing's going
Speaker 3: to be a gain of about twenty puts it about
Speaker 3: the Chiefs forty five. Herbert takes a terrible sack, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's just like those two plays that's all it took.
Speaker 3: And then Gerald Everett, you credit, you know, McDuffie nearly
Speaker 3: got away from him at the right sideline to pick
Speaker 3: up that first down on that third and sixteen or
Speaker 3: eighteen whatever it was, but just couldn't quite get away
Speaker 3: from him. And now you punt it away and now
Speaker 3: the Chiefs come down, and I thought that was Look,
Speaker 3: it was a very frustrating first half for the defense.
Speaker 3: You could see it in their body language on their face.
Speaker 3: They did not I don't think they liked the way
Speaker 3: they were playing. And by that obviously they didn't like
Speaker 3: giving up twenty four points in the first half, But
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they liked the style of
Speaker 3: defense they were playing. I think there was a lot
Speaker 3: of communication issues. Guys that were handing off, you know,
Speaker 3: receivers to nobody and not quite sure where they were
Speaker 3: supposed to be. And I thought that drive was sort
Speaker 3: of the exclamation point. And I bring up because I
Speaker 3: do think it played into how they played the second half.
Speaker 3: I think at the end of that drive where marquezvel
Speaker 3: Dez Scantling gets this twenty eight yard up the right
Speaker 3: sideline play and again it's just like nobody's covering them,
Speaker 3: they pin him all the way back at the four,
Speaker 3: and the very next play is thirty seven yards right sideline,
Speaker 3: wide open. And I think you combine all the plays
Speaker 3: on that drive, you know, Kelsey for fifteen wide open,
Speaker 3: and then somehow Eric Kendricks, who has really struggled in
Speaker 3: coverage this year, finds himself on Kelsey in the red zone,
Speaker 3: commits the penalty in the end zone. I mean, he
Speaker 3: never had a chance. That thing was dead the rights
Speaker 3: from the second the ball was snapped in. Kendricks is
Speaker 3: playing Kelsey and trying to keep up with him, and
Speaker 3: they score the touchdown. And I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 3: in the locker room, Chris, but I think that was
Speaker 3: like a last straw. And I think you very well
Speaker 3: could have had some players on that defense go enough,
Speaker 3: were let enough, you know, Mikey, And you heard the
Speaker 3: way he sounded after the game. I think he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm playing press I'm pressing my guy. And I think
Speaker 3: Derwin said, I'm playing Kelsey and I'm pressing him and
Speaker 3: where he goes I go. And you saw that in
Speaker 3: the second half, and I think that's why it's important
Speaker 3: to rehash that game, because I do think you've got
Speaker 3: player equity in this defense. I'm Derwin James. I'm tired
Speaker 3: of being hung out to dry. I'm gonna go and
Speaker 3: freaking attack this thing. And I think you saw that
Speaker 3: specifically from those two guys from Davis and from Durwin,
Speaker 3: and you saw what was soft coverage become pressman and
Speaker 3: a lot more two man where they're still playing with
Speaker 3: they're too high, but now you're pre and along the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and you're making guys work for it.
Speaker 3: And it worked. And I think coach Daley acknowledged that
Speaker 3: after the game, like, hey, we learned some things move
Speaker 3: And I do believe. I don't want to I don't
Speaker 3: want to speak. Maybe it's just hopeful for me, but
Speaker 3: I do think he said moving forward, And so I'm
Speaker 3: hopeful that with the style of play that Derwin can
Speaker 3: play with, that Mikey can play with, and look for Mikey.
Speaker 3: He's a free agent at the end of this year, Chris.
Speaker 3: He's he's not a former first round pick that everybody
Speaker 3: has their fan base knows who he is and oh, hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna go sign you know. So I think there's
Speaker 3: something there, like, hey, I got to put up numbers
Speaker 3: if I'm going into free agency and maybe the Chargers
Speaker 3: are looking to draft the corner of the first round
Speaker 3: or whatever. You know, however, that whole thing shakes out.
Speaker 3: I can't be the guy on Tate that's given Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill and you know, Marquezveldes scantling and all that, you know,
Speaker 3: and ceedee lamb ten yards of coverage because that's not
Speaker 3: my game, y know. My game is I'm six three
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna bust you up at the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage and I'm gonna be able to stick with you
Speaker 3: hit for hit, And we saw that last year, and
Speaker 3: I think that's something that I'm keeping an eye on
Speaker 3: in this game against the Bears, especially the way that
Speaker 3: they're playing with Tyson Pagent.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pride in that locker room too,
Speaker 2: And frankly, you're just they're sick of losing to the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs because it happens every year. And what
Speaker 2: I found, you know, kind of hard to understand that
Speaker 2: first half is this is a divisional opponent that you
Speaker 2: have played close. And when I say close, I mean
Speaker 2: like multiple lead changes in the fourth quarter, close on
Speaker 2: the verge of winning football games against the you know,
Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl champions. So when you and DJ are
Speaker 2: in the booth, like, like, what are you seeing in
Speaker 2: that first half, because that like, you know who Travis
Speaker 2: Kelsey is, you know who Patrick Mahomes is, and it
Speaker 2: just seems like that wasn't the Chargers defense that we
Speaker 2: are using to seeing against this team. And I just
Speaker 2: I don't understand how it looked like that in the
Speaker 2: first half and then it looked so drastically different in
Speaker 2: the second half, Like, I just how how is Travis
Speaker 2: Kelsey setting a career high in receiving yards in the
Speaker 2: first half of that game? How is Patrick Mahomes throwing
Speaker 2: for three hundred yards in the first half against his secondary?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a divisional opponent. When you played
Speaker 2: divisional opponent, you guys, you know the style of fight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it just seemed like the first half this was
Speaker 2: like a team that had not seen before.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a great observation trace and you you
Speaker 3: your tone is what our tone was a tone of
Speaker 3: confusion of what you know, Travis Kelcey is always going
Speaker 3: to find the soft spot. He is so good at it,
Speaker 3: and I know they pushed. I know, coach pushed back.
Speaker 3: And we talked to Tom te Lesk a little bit earlier,
Speaker 3: and I wanted him to explain to people that we're
Speaker 3: listening to the show with Petros and me and and
Speaker 3: he said, look, it wasn't all zone. It's it's it's
Speaker 3: a matchup zone. So there's man concepts, and I just said,
Speaker 3: I get it. I get that, but it's still a
Speaker 3: zone where you're, yes, it's a matchup zone, you're passing
Speaker 3: someone off to someone else and there's nobody there, like
Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're trying to do is not happening.
Speaker 3: It hasn't happened all year. And so for me and
Speaker 3: I am, I am, they will. They have forgotten more
Speaker 3: things than I will ever know about the game of football.
Speaker 3: I acknowledge that, and I have the van I have
Speaker 3: the vantage point, and I have the ability to watch
Speaker 3: replay and see what should have happened. So I'm not
Speaker 3: pretending like I've got the answers, but I'm simply saying
Speaker 3: for me. With Khalil Mack having seven sacks with truly
Speaker 3: leading all rookies, and pressure with Joey Bosa, with Morgan
Speaker 3: Fox who was going for his fifth straight game with
Speaker 3: at least one sack. I'm gonna cut my front four
Speaker 3: loose and I'm gonna I'm gonna trust them to get home,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna play. If you want to play safe
Speaker 3: and take the top off or Aaron protect the top
Speaker 3: with umbrella, play your two safeties high, you know, And
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna press because I believe they're gonna get home.
Speaker 3: I believe Tully and Morgan and Joey and Khalil are
Speaker 3: gonna get home. And then I can have I can
Speaker 3: send those four and I can have seven guys back
Speaker 3: and I and if I'm pressing and knocking these guys
Speaker 3: off routes, we, like you said, the Chargers have played
Speaker 3: them enough.
Speaker 1: You know the rules.
Speaker 3: You can't get too high up the field against Mahomes
Speaker 3: and allow him to break contain and break the edge,
Speaker 3: set the edge, keep him in the pocket, don't let
Speaker 3: him run and play some p and let's force him
Speaker 3: to throw it somewhere else. And they just didn't do it.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I think it was twenty to twenty one.
Speaker 3: I think is what he was twenty for twenty one.
Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly what the first half was but
Speaker 3: I think that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He end up a forty two for four to twenty
Speaker 2: four four touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was twenty for twenty one for
Speaker 3: over three hundred yards. In the first half, Travis Kelcey
Speaker 3: had ten targets for ten ten receptions on ten targets
Speaker 3: for like one hundred and fifte hundred and forty three
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and thirty nine yards or one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty three yards something like that in the in
Speaker 2: the first half. But you know, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So my thing is, let's adjust after the second possession, let's.
Speaker 1: You know, and so we we continued to.
Speaker 3: Be surprised, and I think it was great to see
Speaker 3: the adjustment in the second half because, look, you're constantly
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: It's chess.
Speaker 3: You know, basketball and baseball are checkers, they just are.
Speaker 3: Football is chess, and you are trying to It does
Speaker 3: not take much to go wrong. And in watching that game,
Speaker 3: I think Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes found something with
Speaker 3: the middle of the field and specifically number six. I
Speaker 3: think they found something and they just kept going back
Speaker 3: to it over and over and over and over, and
Speaker 3: they made the adjustment in the second half and they
Speaker 3: allowed one hundred yards and seven points. And let's hope
Speaker 3: that carries over now of this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, another development over the last three games that
Speaker 2: has not been positive that needs to change is the
Speaker 2: offense in the second half. They didn't score any points
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs or the Raiders, two divisional opponents in
Speaker 2: the second half of those games. Ten points against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: There's a combination of things going on right now offensively
Speaker 2: with Justin's finger, to the lack of Mike Williams and
Speaker 2: Corey Linsley, Austin Ecleck just coming back from injury, Slater's ankle.
Speaker 2: Slater's ankle, that's a big one. That's a huge one.
Speaker 2: It's a huge one. And also just you know the
Speaker 2: young guards. You know, maybe there's some growing pains going
Speaker 2: on there, you know, you when you have Chris Jones
Speaker 2: on the other side too, It's it's something where you
Speaker 2: have to take that into account. But offensively, money as
Speaker 2: we look at the injury report, Jailed Ever got hurt
Speaker 2: in that game. Joshua Palmer was a DNP in practice
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. You know, we talked so much about Quintin
Speaker 2: Johnson last week just two targets, one catch for twenty yards.
Speaker 2: So what is this offense gonna look like on Sunday
Speaker 2: Night against the Bears. And you know, I put something
Speaker 2: out on Twitter, like the last three weeks, they've been
Speaker 2: really good on defense. They've allowed just fourteen points six
Speaker 2: points of games. I know it was against the Commanders
Speaker 2: and against the Raiders and against the Vikings, but the
Speaker 2: Chargers barely beat the Vikings and it took a possession
Speaker 2: to seal it against the Raiders. And the Commanders have
Speaker 2: have up and down performances offensively this year. So their
Speaker 2: defense is playing better. And they have this rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2: And when you don't have a ton of tape on
Speaker 2: a guy, I think it makes it a little bit
Speaker 2: more I wouldn't say difficult, but you have to kind
Speaker 2: of leave it up to the imagination on what he's
Speaker 2: going to provide for them.
Speaker 3: Well, I think number one, I am very hopeful that
Speaker 3: we see what we saw in the second half. I
Speaker 3: cannot imagine playing a soft zone against and providing cushion
Speaker 3: to Beijing. That's the one thing. I know it's only
Speaker 3: a game and a half, but that ball is out
Speaker 3: quid short quick throws. He is not holding onto the ball,
Speaker 3: he is not pushing it downfield. It is short quick throws.
Speaker 3: His average I'm looking at it right now, his average
Speaker 3: per attempt is five point seven.
Speaker 1: It's nothing.
Speaker 3: So you got to press. You have got to be
Speaker 3: up on the line of scrimms. Do not let Dj
Speaker 3: Moore get a bunch of these quick throws.
Speaker 1: Yack.
Speaker 3: He's a really good yards after catch receiver. We've already
Speaker 3: seen justin Jefferson one eight, Tyreek Kill two fifteen, ced
Speaker 3: Lamb one seventeen, Travis Kelcey Won's seventy nine. There's one
Speaker 3: guy that I do not want to see beat the
Speaker 3: Chargers in this game, and that's DJ Moore, who right
Speaker 3: now has fifty one targets. The next highest is thirty
Speaker 3: two for the tight end comet. I mean, Mooney has
Speaker 3: got less than one half of the targets that Moore has.
Speaker 3: Forty catches, six hundred and thirty six yards and five touchdowns,
Speaker 3: thirteen explosive plays. Get Mikey Davis on them, jam him
Speaker 3: and force Bagent to get uncomfortable in the pocket because
Speaker 3: you got Tully, Like I said, you've got that defensive
Speaker 3: line and that's that's what I'd like to see. I
Speaker 3: want to see Khalil touley Bosa and at the same time,
Speaker 3: that's what I would love to see those guys out there.
Speaker 3: They have created incredible opportunities for each other when they're
Speaker 3: out there, and so I'd like to see that be
Speaker 3: predominantly what they're working on the defensive line. I want
Speaker 3: to see these guys up on the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 3: the secondary players, because Baigent wants that ball out and
Speaker 3: that's what he did as shepherd. You know, I was
Speaker 3: talking to Tom Telesco about him and he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we scouted him, we liked him a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: and he ended up playing in the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 3: everybody that was at the Senate at the I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl, and everybody was at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 3: talked about how much they liked him. So, you know,
Speaker 3: they they know, they actually did some work on Beajent
Speaker 3: now you know, did did the entire defensive coaching staff. No,
Speaker 3: like they've got to catch up. But at least and
Speaker 3: we know how much Brandon invests in the draft. You know,
Speaker 3: he was the guy that was really you know, puffing
Speaker 3: his chest out about Quinton, So we know that he's invested,
Speaker 3: you know, and he is is part of this process.
Speaker 3: And he said, yes, I watched a lot of bigent
Speaker 3: So at least there's that right that these coaches, specifically Brandon,
Speaker 3: our head coach, you know, is very you know, is
Speaker 3: very invested in the draft. So he's got a lot
Speaker 3: of bagent tape that he's watched already, and I think knows, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is a guy that's bang bang, snap three step
Speaker 3: boom gone. So you got to play prece and force
Speaker 3: those first raids and those hot raads to not be
Speaker 3: there offensively. I you know, Chris, I wish I had
Speaker 3: an answer. You know, the defense has been getting gashed
Speaker 3: for the most part all season long. You know, the
Speaker 3: offense has had these games like the running game against Miami,
Speaker 3: the passing game against Minnesota, the first half all around
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs and the Raiders, and like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of the offense. I
Speaker 3: just I can't figure it out. And I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: frustrating for Kellen Moore where you have a first half
Speaker 3: like you have against Kansas City and then you can't
Speaker 3: get anything going in the second half, and it's punt punt, turnover, punt,
Speaker 3: like it's you know, three and out, three and out, Yeah,
Speaker 3: three and out where you ran the ball three straight
Speaker 3: times like it's and you know, Justin Herbert as your quarterback,
Speaker 3: like it is a very strange time to try to
Speaker 3: figure out what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 2: Well, one of your keys to potential victory against the
Speaker 2: Chiefs was to get Austin Eckler involved in the passing game.
Speaker 2: One catch, one yard, two targets. I know he was
Speaker 2: out of the game for a little bit, but he
Speaker 2: still had fourteen carries forty five yards. Austin hasn't seemed
Speaker 2: like Austin Eckler since he's been back. And I continue
Speaker 2: to be a little confused about the Quentin Johnson thing. Man,
Speaker 2: like just two targets. If Joshua Palmer is limited or
Speaker 2: does not play in this game and Gerald Everett's out,
Speaker 2: you have no choice. Quentin Johns's gonna have to be
Speaker 2: a part of this thing.
Speaker 1: I think, you know it.
Speaker 3: It hit me when I was and I think it
Speaker 3: was Popper that asked the question he had because I
Speaker 3: can't imagine any other of the Rioters having asked the question,
Speaker 3: but he specifically after the game brought up what was
Speaker 3: a critical miss on third down to Keenan where Willie
Speaker 3: Gay got his hands on it and popped it up
Speaker 3: in the air, and Popper had mentioned, hey, I see it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a right to left progression. He gets
Speaker 3: to Keenan and Keenan's flashing open, so he cuts it loose,
Speaker 3: and there's Gay reading reading the play and gets his
Speaker 3: hands up and knocks it in complete. But if he
Speaker 3: goes one more, there's Quintin on that quick slant you know,
Speaker 3: a QJ special that you know that he that he
Speaker 3: ran repeatedly at TCU and really was kind of his
Speaker 3: was his calling card, right, these quick slants that he's
Speaker 3: he's a yack monster and he's just going to turn
Speaker 3: a five yard slant into a thirty yard gain and
Speaker 3: it was a flashed wide open and and Coach Staley's
Speaker 3: answer was basically yes, you know, he was excited even
Speaker 3: a little bit. He's like, yeah, you read it exactly right.
Speaker 3: It's a right to left progression. And when Justin got
Speaker 3: to Keenan, he sees he's open and he makes that pass,
Speaker 3: you know, because it looks like it's going to be
Speaker 3: a completion. So my takeaway from that is, and again
Speaker 3: I'm I want to make sure I qualify these I'm
Speaker 3: not out there that the bodies have not been on
Speaker 3: in my lap the entire game. But I'm just going
Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty and how comfortable he was with
Speaker 3: the worst offensive line that we have seen since the Chargers,
Speaker 3: you know, had that the Chargers have had since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty was the worst offensive line that he was
Speaker 3: under pressure every snap, and yet he would still work
Speaker 3: through all of his progressions just because he knew. Okay,
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's a it's a three man route,
Speaker 3: and I know what that third man's got, So let
Speaker 3: me just take a peek. I know Keenan's flashing open,
Speaker 3: but let me take a peek because I like that matchup.
Speaker 3: It's one on one, Quintin's got the inside. Does he
Speaker 3: get inside?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Can can he force that corner to not get inside
Speaker 3: leverage and pop this thing? Because the pocket hadn't collapsed yet.
Speaker 3: It's clean. And I bring it up because, like, to me,
Speaker 3: that was the issue with the Joe Lombardi offense. Is
Speaker 3: it was, here's your route map. As soon as you
Speaker 3: see somebody open balls out, that's the Drew Brees like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna bang bang bank Okay, open go,
Speaker 3: And it's only four air yards and it's a six
Speaker 3: yard completion. Like I want to get back to that.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gona hold it. I'm gonna roll
Speaker 3: out if I got to, because I think my guys
Speaker 3: are gonna win and and let's go win. And like
Speaker 3: that's what Patrick Mahomes was doing. You know, he was
Speaker 3: just hanging and he has that rep you know, that
Speaker 3: relationship with his receivers where they're like, oh, he's gonna
Speaker 3: he's gonna break free and we're gonna you know, this
Speaker 3: thing's gonna go from six yards to to thirty and
Speaker 3: like I just want him to stop going. You know,
Speaker 3: here's my progression one, No, two, Yes, let's go.
Speaker 1: I want it to be.
Speaker 3: Okay, the pocket's clean, Let's take a peek at three,
Speaker 3: let's see what it looks like. And there it is.
Speaker 3: He's got the inside. Let's hit him and let's just
Speaker 3: see if he can go. And so I think it's
Speaker 3: residual from the last two years under Joe Lombardi where
Speaker 3: it's just muscle memory and it's you know, and in
Speaker 3: Justin's defense, we're talking about, you know, the third offensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: play caller in four years. So it's not easy, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not easy to break that muscle memory and those
Speaker 3: habits and those rules and everything that you've been conditioned
Speaker 3: to do for two years. And hey, let's change it up, man,
Speaker 3: Let's hang on to it. Let's hang on to it.
Speaker 3: We got if we got to, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that was just kind of my takeaway on
Speaker 1: that play. And and you.
Speaker 3: Know, I don't know, I just I feel like I
Speaker 3: keep going back to twenty twenty, yeah, and just thinking
Speaker 3: about how different it looked, and just how different the
Speaker 3: explosive plays looked, how different the shot plays looked, how
Speaker 3: athletic Herbert looked when he was just I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think the best way to describe it. And again I
Speaker 3: have no idea if it's if it's correct, if it's not,
Speaker 3: But like, I just feel like, man, that rookie year,
Speaker 3: Herbert was just out there, like his hair was on
Speaker 3: fire man, and he's just like whatever, let's freaking go,
Speaker 3: and he's just cutting loose. And now it feels like, oh,
Speaker 3: I know the I've mastered this textbook, I know all
Speaker 3: the answers, I know what this play is supposed to do.
Speaker 3: And he's so smart that he's got all that information now,
Speaker 3: and I almost feel like it's a little paralysis by
Speaker 3: analysis and we've lost a little bit of that, just
Speaker 3: that nuance, that feel for the position that we saw
Speaker 3: that first year where it was, Hey, I'm the most
Speaker 3: talented dude out here in the league.
Speaker 1: Watch this, Watch what I'm about to I want to
Speaker 1: get some of that back.
Speaker 3: The There is nobody built like me. There is nobody
Speaker 3: with the arm I have. There is nobody with the
Speaker 3: athleticism I have. At six foot six two and forty,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wreck you. And it's not okay. I've got one, two, three,
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna come back to two and let's
Speaker 3: I want less of that, and I want a little
Speaker 3: bit more.
Speaker 1: Of the Let's go, yeah, cut loose, let's go. Good
Speaker 1: luck stopping this.
Speaker 2: It's a great point. Take a quick break, and we'll
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Speaker 2: to go back to this point because I think it's
Speaker 2: an excellent one. When I hear Patrick Mahomes talk a
Speaker 2: lot of times, he's saying Travis is just running a
Speaker 2: route and I'm gonna find him, and it's a lot
Speaker 2: of off script and you see Mahomes on the move
Speaker 2: and just using his God given talent to just make
Speaker 2: amazing throws and amazing decisions the rookie season. Now this
Speaker 2: is his fourth year. Obviously he's more comfortable in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But you mentioned having this Joe Lombardi offense the last
Speaker 2: two years, and if you know Justin Herbert, you know
Speaker 2: how maniaqual he is about studying and getting things correct.
Speaker 2: What's the percentage of the Joe Lombardi kind of offense
Speaker 2: that's still in this Kellen Moore offense and what Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore wants to do, because again they only have seven
Speaker 2: games together, right, it takes a while to learn somebody.
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the more kind of
Speaker 2: underrated I think storylines to start this year is that, yes,
Speaker 2: we all were expecting bombs away with Kellen Moore and
Speaker 2: obviously having healthy personnel. To this point, both have not
Speaker 2: really been the case. Do you think it's more a
Speaker 2: product of, Hey, we need more time on task and
Speaker 2: Justin needs to get more comfortable with what Kellen wants
Speaker 2: to do as opposed to maybe kind of using what
Speaker 2: he's done in the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great question. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know the answer. I don't know how much of
Speaker 3: it Kellen kept. Because you know, Justin said that he's
Speaker 3: comfortable with it. I think I like that you because
Speaker 3: you know what. I love that you brought up Mahomes
Speaker 3: and Kelsey because I think that's what we saw against
Speaker 3: Minnesota with Justin and Keenan. It's like, Hey, we know
Speaker 3: each other, we know exactly we are on the same wavelength,
Speaker 3: We're sharing the same football brain. These guys want to
Speaker 3: blitz us. Eighty percent of the time, we're gonna roast you.
Speaker 3: And I think you saw that, and that's what Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes and Travis Kelsey saw against the Chargers. Oh, you're
Speaker 3: gonna play you know, a matchup zone, or you're gonna
Speaker 3: try to hand me off from a corner to a
Speaker 3: safety or a linebacker, or you're gonna give me a
Speaker 3: free release. Oh watch what we're gonna do to you.
Speaker 3: And I think we saw that against Minnesota, and that's
Speaker 3: how Keenan has that, you know, that record setting day,
Speaker 3: So we know that that those two have that special connection.
Speaker 3: I also think, and and I love that you brought
Speaker 3: this up that when you when when you see Mahomes,
Speaker 3: you know, at the lectern and when you hear the
Speaker 3: way he talks about the game and the way that
Speaker 3: he describes there's I'm trying to think of the right way.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the right word is visceral, but
Speaker 3: there's just there's this natural feeling to it, like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm feeling the game.
Speaker 1: I'm out there and.
Speaker 3: And the game is speaking to me and I'm speaking
Speaker 3: to it. This maybe this will work as a metaphor.
Speaker 3: I think that they're Justin and Patrick are walking into
Speaker 3: They're walking down a university hallway for finals, and Justin
Speaker 3: is taking a left into a classroom with a scientific
Speaker 3: calculator and a slide rule, and Patrick Mahomes has taken
Speaker 3: a right with a blue composition book. And that's what
Speaker 3: it looks like to me, is that there is this
Speaker 3: creation versus execution. And I think that I think that's
Speaker 3: kind of what you're speaking to, Like there's and I
Speaker 3: think that's Look, Patrick Mahomes has been with Andy Reid
Speaker 3: and Travis Kelcey for seven years now, right or six
Speaker 3: years now, and so like that's that's the relationship, and
Speaker 3: that's sort of the relationship you not only have with
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: But with the offense.
Speaker 3: And and so Justin this is his first year with
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, you know, And and I think that's why,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, outside look, outside of Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has nothing going on with those receivers.
Speaker 1: He has really struggled.
Speaker 3: And outside of Keenan Allen since Mike Williams went down,
Speaker 3: Justin's got nothing going with anybody else.
Speaker 1: So it's like there is that parallel.
Speaker 3: I think it's you know, you got to you got
Speaker 3: to point out that, yeah, that's the case with Mahomes
Speaker 3: and and Kelsey. This offense has not been explosive. You know,
Speaker 3: it had been it had averaged twenty one points per
Speaker 3: game outside of the forty one they put up against
Speaker 3: the Bears in it's other five games, so other four games.
Speaker 3: So I think it's important to remember that as as well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I feel like that's kind of
Speaker 3: what what we're getting at right is like just a
Speaker 3: little more natural, like you you know, the and I
Speaker 3: think this works for both sides of the ball, right,
Speaker 3: Like I remember when Chip Kelly showed up at Oregon
Speaker 3: and everybody was like, why aren't we all doing this?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Like what this is changing football? Like the tempo, the speed,
Speaker 3: the run game, and then these explosive passes off of it.
Speaker 3: They're they're losing the time of possession, you know, contest
Speaker 3: by twenty five minutes, and yet they're scoring seventy points.
Speaker 3: What's going on? And why isn't USC doing this? And and
Speaker 3: I think you know, the point that was brought up
Speaker 3: was in Chip set and he's like, well, I don't
Speaker 3: have those players, you know, don't I don't have the
Speaker 3: five stars from southern California. I'm at this is before
Speaker 3: Oregon became the powerhouse, right. He's like, I'm in Oregon.
Speaker 3: I got two stars and three stars, and I'm convincing
Speaker 3: guys to move from southern California to a place where
Speaker 3: it rains three hundredays a year. He's like, so, yeah,
Speaker 3: we gotta have the system, like on defense and on offense,
Speaker 3: charge's got dogs Like on that defense, cut the dogs loose, like,
Speaker 3: don't worry about having the perfect scheme and the perfect play.
Speaker 3: And it's like you got Keenan Allen, and you got
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, and you got Austin Eckler and you got
Speaker 3: you know, just let's get a little bit. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense, but like to me,
Speaker 3: it's like, let's be more. Let's be more Alabama and
Speaker 3: let's be less Oregon. Like let's let's say we got
Speaker 3: the best players. You know, we're gonna go out there
Speaker 3: and play football and you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: keep up with us because we're just better. We're just better.
Speaker 3: And so I'd like to see a little bit more
Speaker 3: of that, if it makes sense. I'm gonna throw this
Speaker 3: ball to Austin Eckler on a smoke route and I
Speaker 3: know your linebacker standing right there, but guess what he's
Speaker 3: gonna miss. And then the safety's gonna try to tackle him.
Speaker 3: He's gonna truck him, and it's gonna be a twelve
Speaker 3: yard game. Like I want to see more of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going back to Austin like, why do you think
Speaker 2: we're not seeing the dump offs to Austin? Why do
Speaker 2: you think we're not you know, because we go back
Speaker 2: to his resume, you know, before the season started, thirty
Speaker 2: eight total touchdowns over two years. He was a touchdown machine.
Speaker 2: He was a reception machine. And we were expecting maybe
Speaker 2: those those touches or those receptions to maybe go down
Speaker 2: a little bit because we expected Justin to be a
Speaker 2: little bit more vertical. But right now, like it looks
Speaker 2: like they're not even attempting them, and I just that
Speaker 2: has to change. Against the Chicago Bears, and you know,
Speaker 2: I know that there's no Cory Lindsay, but the running
Speaker 2: game outside of Joshua Kelly was just you know, after
Speaker 2: that run, there has to be a consistent running game.
Speaker 2: And you know some people could say, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 2: running game doesn't matter. It does matter. It does matter
Speaker 2: because time of possession, your defense doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: on the field all game, and to be balanced is
Speaker 2: a good thing. So I'd like to see the Chargers
Speaker 2: get some sort of running game going because money, I
Speaker 2: feel like every single year we talk about who's the
Speaker 2: compliment to Austin, right, and sometimes it's Joshua, sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2: And now we're seeing Austin, you know, put up two
Speaker 2: point eight or three point one yards of pop since
Speaker 2: his return, and I just there needs to be a
Speaker 2: consistent presence there, man, And I don't know when we're
Speaker 2: gonna see it. I hope we see it on Sunday night.
Speaker 3: So here, I'm just pulling up the second half against
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, right and this, you know, you bring up
Speaker 3: the running game. So on the drive after the fumble
Speaker 3: that you know the Chiefs opened up with, they get
Speaker 3: the ball, they get it all the way down to
Speaker 3: the Kansas City nine right, first and ten, Austin Eckler
Speaker 3: five yards, first and ten, you get a Justin Herbert
Speaker 3: pass to Keenan Allen nineteen yards. Next, first and ten,
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler three yards, first and goal, Austin Eckler one yard.
Speaker 3: What stands out there to you? First and ten, Keenan
Speaker 3: Allen nineteen yards. Gotta start throwing the ball on first down,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's just like next possession, Austin Eckler
Speaker 3: five yards. You know, then they ran out. This was
Speaker 3: the one where they had the three and out with
Speaker 3: three straight run plays. So next possession, you know, first
Speaker 3: and ten incomplete pass and then you had a penalty
Speaker 3: and it was a just unraveled from there. But like
Speaker 3: I think, and I think keen I think the Kellen
Speaker 3: is trying to do that right, He's trying to mix
Speaker 3: it up. But what I think you have to do
Speaker 3: is let's try to find those those defense beating plays
Speaker 3: on first down. I think that's what they really need
Speaker 3: to find in the passing game, those quick slants to
Speaker 3: to to Quinton. You know that we know how how
Speaker 3: badly Keenan can can break guys up, you know, can
Speaker 3: break guys down and bust them up on routes like,
Speaker 3: let's get some of those. Let's just mix those in
Speaker 3: again to get that defense on its heels. So like that,
Speaker 3: that to me is the way to try to open
Speaker 3: up the running game is let's let's make sure we're
Speaker 3: not running on first down, you know, as as much
Speaker 3: as and and look, I don't have the breakdowns and
Speaker 3: may not have it right, you know, I took a
Speaker 3: small sample size there, but it did feel like they
Speaker 3: were running a lot on first down. And I'd love
Speaker 3: to Yeah, I'm looking at here's the here's the field
Speaker 3: goal drive. Their first score of the game, Kelly up
Speaker 3: the middle for two on a first down Davis left end.
Speaker 1: No gain.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a okay, So here you go first and
Speaker 3: ten Herbert deep pass left to Keenan Allen for twenty
Speaker 3: six yards. It's like, let's let's you know, let's get
Speaker 3: a little more of that going, you know. And I
Speaker 3: think that's how you open up the run game, Chris is,
Speaker 3: because they're not going to honor play action. They're they're playing. Look,
Speaker 3: they're they're not afraid of passes downfield, they're just not.
Speaker 3: So they're not going to commit resources there. So they're
Speaker 3: gonna play with heavy boxes and you're running into heavy
Speaker 3: boxes and it's not easy. And we saw that last year,
Speaker 3: right just because the explosive plays weren't there. Now it's
Speaker 3: tough to push the ball downfield with Mike Williams gone,
Speaker 3: and that's what's changed a lot, right with him down,
Speaker 3: So you've got to try to find You've got to
Speaker 3: try to find those plays.
Speaker 2: I thought Joshua Palmer played great. His injury status right now,
Speaker 2: keep an eye on that, Gerald Everett, keep an eye
Speaker 2: on that, because that's gonna definitely dictate what they do
Speaker 2: and what the game plan could be on Sunday night.
Speaker 2: You flip it to the Chicago offense and you know
Speaker 2: we we mentioned beij it, but they found something in
Speaker 2: this running game. It's amazing to me that Deontay Foreman
Speaker 2: it took him this long to actually get forman involved
Speaker 2: based on what he did in Carolina last year. One
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty total yards, three total touchdowns against the
Speaker 2: Raiders last week, and that was a beatdown man, I
Speaker 2: mean thirty to twelve a Raiders team coming off a
Speaker 2: couple of wins too, going to Chicago, getting beat by
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback and just getting abused by the running game.
Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman, five point six a pop. You mentioned Dj Moore.
Speaker 2: Dj Moore had two hundred and thirty yards against the
Speaker 2: Commanders a few thursdays ago. Any step they said, he
Speaker 2: stepped out of bounds on another one that was going
Speaker 2: to be a touchdown. So just do the math on
Speaker 2: the night that DJ Moore had and what he could
Speaker 2: have had uh against the Commanders. Those are the two
Speaker 2: weapons that have to be slowed and stopped, uh Foreman.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned DJ Moore earlier, but Deontay Foreman is
Speaker 2: another another guy that that's kind of emerging for Chicago
Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I think I want to say, outside of Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 3: with San Francisco, nobody had more rushing yards from the
Speaker 3: time of that trade. Foreman had the second most to McCaffrey.
Speaker 3: That's how effective he was. For Steve Wilkes, yeah, in Carolina,
Speaker 3: and this was the first time he really got a
Speaker 3: crack at it, you know, with with the injuries to
Speaker 3: to Khalil Herbert and and everything that that that Chicago's
Speaker 3: been going through.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball. They ran the ball well.
Speaker 3: Last year they're all they're on line does not pass
Speaker 3: block well, but they run blocked pretty darn well. So
Speaker 3: the one thing that's interesting about this year right is
Speaker 3: for the Sids, Brandon Staley showed up and so this
Speaker 3: is the worst run defense in the in the league.
Speaker 3: Run defense pretty good. Now, you know the run defense
Speaker 3: specifically because of Tully, you know, because you have Khalil
Speaker 3: Mack on one edge, and Tully has said, I'm just
Speaker 3: learning at the altar of Khalil Mack. So you've got
Speaker 3: all of that power at the other edge. And I
Speaker 3: think you've seen how much more effective they've been against
Speaker 3: the run. So that that's look, they've got us. They
Speaker 3: don't want Tyson Bagent throwing the ball thirty times in
Speaker 3: this game. They want him throwing it, you know, seventeen
Speaker 3: to twenty one times, and you know, for first downs
Speaker 3: on third and three and third and fours. So that's
Speaker 3: what they're that I would assume that's what what coach
Speaker 3: Eberfluce wants to do. So you got to slow down
Speaker 3: for him for sure. I mean, he's, like you said,
Speaker 3: he's got a couple of touchdowns last week. Not having
Speaker 3: justin fields and that threat to run when things break
Speaker 3: down is such a huge advantage for the Chargers. Like
Speaker 3: to have someone that's not quite capable of that type
Speaker 3: of running and that type of athleticism is a big
Speaker 3: win for them. So the thing about the Raiders defense
Speaker 3: is not good, you know, and that's why the Chargers
Speaker 3: put up twenty four in the first half. They should
Speaker 3: have put up forty points in that game, and for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, their offense just shut down. So we know, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Chargers are capable of putting that out. The Miami
Speaker 3: defense is not good and they put up over thirty points.
Speaker 3: The Vikings defense is not good and they put up
Speaker 3: over thirty points, so we know they've been able to
Speaker 3: get after defenses that aren't great. Cowboys defense is great.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs defense it's pretty damn good. It's it's pretty
Speaker 3: damn good to great this season it has been so
Speaker 3: this Bears defense is okay, it's okay. So, and let's
Speaker 3: not forget they had Brian Hoyer starting at quarterback. It
Speaker 3: was really thirty to six. That last touchdown was was
Speaker 3: a throwaway, you know, down thirty six with no time left.
Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell gets putting into a game and you know
Speaker 3: he's just dinking and dunking down the field because they're
Speaker 3: playing you know, soft coverage in that moment. But just
Speaker 3: I want to bring this up for yeah, because you
Speaker 3: know what family trust respect, right, Yeah, Brian Hoyer has
Speaker 3: not want to start.
Speaker 1: He's last. Yeah, he does not want to start.
Speaker 2: What are they doing? Like, like, listen, this is an
Speaker 2: a Raiders podcast that work, right, Why aren't you starting
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell in that game?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: You may win that game.
Speaker 3: The guy, the guy has not want to start in
Speaker 3: like three years, four years, five years, six years, whatever
Speaker 3: it is and you're starting him.
Speaker 1: What do you expect to get out of that?
Speaker 3: So like that's you know, that's something to take into consideration.
Speaker 3: You know, do I think the Bears are a threat?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Do I think They're a severe threat. Now, the Chargers
Speaker 3: better win this game. They better win this game, and
Speaker 3: I'd like to see them win it in decisive fashion,
Speaker 3: so you know, they can get some rest, they'll have
Speaker 3: that extra day. It's it's funny, right, We're gonna play
Speaker 3: three primetime games in four weeks, two Monday nighters and
Speaker 3: a Sunday. It's like, let's let's remind the country how
Speaker 3: special Herbert is in primetime and how much fun and
Speaker 3: why this team got six primetime games in the first place.
Speaker 3: As you know, we're now going to get our second
Speaker 3: and third of the six after this. Remember we still
Speaker 3: have a Sunday night against the Ravens, a Saturday night
Speaker 3: against the Bills, and a Thursday night against the Raiders
Speaker 3: on top of the Monday night or a week from
Speaker 3: you know, in week nine against the Jets. So it's
Speaker 3: a perfect opportunity for them to remind everyone. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a reason why. There's there's a reason why the Chargers
Speaker 3: are in primetime and this is a perfect game to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 2: A couple of things before we get out of here.
Speaker 2: I want you to find Tyson Bagen's father and arm
Speaker 2: wrestle him in the radio pregame and we tape it.
Speaker 2: That's what I like to see if Justin producer Justin
Speaker 2: can make that happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get him in the boot.
Speaker 3: It looked like it would look like let's name of
Speaker 3: the super hell Boy. His arm compared to mine would
Speaker 3: be like the red arm of hell Boy, and he
Speaker 3: just rip it off and beat me over.
Speaker 1: The head with it.
Speaker 3: Although I'll say this over the top, wildly underrated cable
Speaker 3: classic film was stallone, centered around professional arm rush wrestling
Speaker 3: as he's seeking to win a tractor a semi rig
Speaker 3: in the arm Wrestling Championships in Las Vegas, while also
Speaker 3: getting back custody of his son from his evil father
Speaker 3: in law, who I believe is Robert Losha. So there
Speaker 3: we go.
Speaker 1: There's a little I'm wrestling fun for you.
Speaker 2: Chargers. Fis watched that movie before.
Speaker 1: It really is great.
Speaker 3: It really is as good of a you know, terrible
Speaker 3: in the theaters, But you know what, it's cable. It's
Speaker 3: three o'clock. I just get home from school. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: I'm gonna clock in here and get a cool probably
Speaker 3: eighty three Minutes's maby.
Speaker 1: What that movie was?
Speaker 3: You know, all the montages, like five or six montages
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's peak Sly. It is Peak Sly.
Speaker 2: Final thing charges too and four. You mentioned this before
Speaker 2: the Cowboys game and you said, listen, we had two
Speaker 2: Super Bowl contending teams up in the Cowboys and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: If you drop to two and four, again, it's not ideal.
Speaker 2: It's far from ideal in terms of winning the AFC West.
Speaker 2: But you said you and DJ were talking about the
Speaker 2: schedule down the stretch, Bears, then Jets, then home for
Speaker 2: the Lions, Packers, and then a huge showdown with the
Speaker 2: Ravens on Sunday Night football. So we're gonna give fans
Speaker 2: a glimmer of hope right now if you can get
Speaker 2: these next two and get to four and four, confidence
Speaker 2: going into a game against the Lions, a big game
Speaker 2: against the Lions, going to Lambeau against a struggling Packers team.
Speaker 2: And then right now the Ravens are playing fantastic good
Speaker 2: and they're in the conversation for one of the best
Speaker 2: teams in the AFC, So what has showed done? That's
Speaker 2: going to be But you know what, for for as
Speaker 2: poorly as the season has started, there's hope. But you
Speaker 2: have to win Sunday to get to Monday night.
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. It's a good stretch we thought.
Speaker 3: I think I think realistically, if you were being realistic,
Speaker 3: you were like, Okay, four and two would be great.
Speaker 3: I can see three and three, you know, I can
Speaker 3: see the path for three and three here. If things don't,
Speaker 3: if things go bad, three and three is what we're
Speaker 3: looking at. You know, it's the loss to Tennessee that
Speaker 3: has got this sour taste in our mouth. If this
Speaker 3: team is three and three and you're like, all right,
Speaker 3: you lose. You know, they shootout with Miami, you know,
Speaker 3: you lose a street fight with the Cowboys, you had
Speaker 3: to go to Kansas City. They're on a mini BI,
Speaker 3: you're on a short week. All right, we're three and three.
Speaker 3: So that's I think important to keep in perspective is
Speaker 3: it's really one game. To me, I would have been able.
Speaker 3: I could envision a three and three path and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you're three and three. Now let's flip that switch. Now
Speaker 3: you got Bears, Jets, Lions, Packers, Ravens after the Ravens
Speaker 3: as Patriots. I think in New England it's like, this
Speaker 3: is where you got to flip that switch and go
Speaker 3: and this is how you get to nine ten wins
Speaker 3: and try to punch your ticket. It's this part of
Speaker 3: the season right here, because I think the Broncos are
Speaker 3: in this stretch. The Raiders are in this stretch, you know,
Speaker 3: over the next eight games before we get you know,
Speaker 3: to the final three. So that to me is it's
Speaker 3: important for them to start this thing off and not
Speaker 3: just with a win, but with a convinced playing complimentary,
Speaker 3: excellent football in all three phases. Is I think important
Speaker 3: to come out of this game.
Speaker 2: You need your first convincing win of the year. Right
Speaker 2: So I think as breathe a little bit and be like, okay, good,
Speaker 2: you know, this is what the team should look like,
Speaker 2: you know, in primetime against a struggling Bears team. Chargers
Speaker 2: are favorites in their next four games right now as
Speaker 2: we sit here, So it's an opportunity to gain some
Speaker 2: hay and just kind of see what happens. You know,
Speaker 2: we've seen, you know, everybody kind of wrote the Vikings off.
Speaker 2: Guess what the Vikings are getting back in the playoffs
Speaker 2: in the NFC right now after beating the Night or
Speaker 2: the exactly, you know, and they could beat the Chargers
Speaker 2: and they be in the playoffs right now. So we
Speaker 2: tend to say must win. I do think that last
Speaker 2: Sunday Money was it was a must win for the
Speaker 2: AFC West. I think the AFC West is gonna be
Speaker 2: very difficult to win, to win right now. But as
Speaker 2: far as the AFC, everybody's kind of jumbled up and
Speaker 2: there's all takes a few weeks to get hot. So
Speaker 2: all right, that's gonna do it for us. Always appreciate
Speaker 2: you guys listening, watching on on YouTube for money. I'm Chris.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.