Speaker 1: Welcome the Guys We.
Speaker 2: Bought the anti slut shaming podcast. Hutchings and I'm Karen
Speaker 2: Fisher and friends.
Speaker 3: Bring up so slutting, your horny and your shame?
Speaker 4: Hey it was what?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, talk about Hello fuckers, how you doing? Where
Speaker 1: you been? Put your seat bone on?
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Guys We Fuck It's the
Speaker 2: anti slut shaming podcast. I'm Krine Fisher. I'm Christina Hutchinson.
Speaker 2: I like these cameras because it helps when the light
Speaker 2: goes on, I'm like a little cat and I know
Speaker 2: where to look.
Speaker 1: We're in Mike Studio today.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Hello, everybody, Hi, Sorry, and say the name or
Speaker 2: is it's still this slow ass burn that you're trying.
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Speaker 1: Back Back Studios. You know when you get all the
Speaker 1: GI's in you back and it's real slick.
Speaker 6: That's how we named That's why I named it that
Speaker 6: from his life experience.
Speaker 1: I thought it was an Italian slur.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's you can pick a number of reasons
Speaker 5: why we could have named it slick back Studios. None
Speaker 5: of them are They're all gross.
Speaker 2: And Mike, Mike in his neon sign is smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2: I've seen Mike maybe smoke two cigarettes in his life.
Speaker 2: He's like trying to make a cooler persona I don't know,
Speaker 2: not necessarily.
Speaker 1: It's a pompadour on a fucking guy. It's definitely you.
Speaker 1: It's definitely you. It's like Johnny Rockets. Yeah, it does
Speaker 1: look like Johnny Rocks.
Speaker 5: Johnny Rockett was actually the artist inspiration.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love a Plato fries and then
Speaker 2: ketch up in a smiley face formation.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm craving it.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I want a Friendly's conehead Sunday with them.
Speaker 2: I always want to be a friendlies. Friendly is I
Speaker 2: don't like it, slaps, It's so good. I never had
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Speaker 5: Like, it's not not Applebee's.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say fuck apple Bee's, but friendly. Applebee's
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Speaker 2: sorry for your loss, Yeah, sorry for you never had.
Speaker 2: Actually sorry, you're never going to experience friendlies or a
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Speaker 6: The email address to send that email to is sorry
Speaker 6: about last night's show at gmail dot com. Speaking of cats,
Speaker 6: today's subject line my boyfriend wants me to get rid
Speaker 6: of my cat, and I think he might have OCD Wow.
Speaker 1: Hi, Curent and Christina.
Speaker 6: I've been listening to guys we fucked for about six
Speaker 6: or seven years, and I love it so much. I
Speaker 6: value your opinions and I have a problem that I
Speaker 6: don't know what to do about and would love your advice.
Speaker 6: I twenty five year old female, have been dating my boyfriend,
Speaker 6: twenty seven year old male dump up for six months
Speaker 6: before we.
Speaker 1: Even started dating.
Speaker 6: Some months before we even started dating, he told me
Speaker 6: that he was allergic to cats and dogs and that
Speaker 6: he quote likes spaces a certain way.
Speaker 1: Oh he's weak and.
Speaker 6: Or OLCD and therefore would prefer not to live with them.
Speaker 6: He knew I had a cat, and I told him
Speaker 6: that if I ever ever came down to him or
Speaker 6: the cat, I choose the cat.
Speaker 1: YEA good gal, So I was very clear from the start.
Speaker 6: About two months into dating, he asked that we talk
Speaker 6: about the cat thing.
Speaker 1: Please keep in mind that we do have not moved
Speaker 1: in together.
Speaker 6: I mean, I hope not six months and are not
Speaker 6: talking about it for the immediate future. He expressed that
Speaker 6: he was hurt that I took such a hard stance.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, he is weak.
Speaker 6: I told him that I really couldn't see myself getting
Speaker 6: rid of my cat for him. I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 6: a familure, that's your pet, sane. I've had the cat
Speaker 6: for about three years now. I'll give the shit if
Speaker 6: you've had the cat for three days. Yeah, and we
Speaker 6: are very bonded. Even if the cat sucks, You're not
Speaker 6: getting rid of that cat. But I agreed to relent
Speaker 6: and consider it for the future. Oh, your dumb bag.
Speaker 1: He suggested I give her to my parents. Oh, how
Speaker 1: kind of him.
Speaker 6: Then he told me about a month later that he
Speaker 6: was drawing a hard boundary and did not ever want
Speaker 6: to live with a cat.
Speaker 1: Wow. I was very frustrated because he just told me
Speaker 1: that he was hurt by my hard boundary, and I
Speaker 1: was confused. Yes, so he's doing that thing where Oh
Speaker 1: you hurt me, I'm gonna hear you know what do
Speaker 1: I do? And I'm embarrassed about it. Since he's been
Speaker 1: visiting me, he hasn't had much trouble with allergies. Oh liar.
Speaker 1: He doesn't sneeze or get itchy or get itchy eyes.
Speaker 6: Sometimes he has tiny hives on one localized spot on
Speaker 6: his body that's within thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: How are you getting horny for this guy? This is
Speaker 2: a weak man. Well they talk about on like tradwife TikTok.
Speaker 2: This is the guys that are fucking talking about Oh, exterminate,
Speaker 2: I get him out.
Speaker 1: I was introduced to troud will if not that long
Speaker 1: ago while still in my apartment with the cat.
Speaker 6: Okay, so his allergic reaction, I fucking had. I broke
Speaker 6: out a rash immediately and couldn't breathe. And I still
Speaker 6: slept with my three cats as a child.
Speaker 1: That's fine. You're a woman, You're allowed. Thank you.
Speaker 6: She is also the sweetest thing ever and doesn't scratch
Speaker 6: or anything do anything bad.
Speaker 1: But he claims he is very itchy.
Speaker 2: We literally don't need any details about the cat, miss,
Speaker 2: We just we're gonna be on the cat's side regardless.
Speaker 2: Then he began to pressure me to take a make
Speaker 2: a decision, agree to give my cat to my parents
Speaker 2: in the future or break up.
Speaker 1: Jesus, it's pretty easy, sound sounds like a fun guy.
Speaker 6: I told him that I wasn't ready to make that
Speaker 6: decision and wanted to talk about it more, but he
Speaker 6: would get very frustrated when I brought it up. Then,
Speaker 6: when I mentioned that all my friends think he should
Speaker 6: just try Zyrtec, which he refuses to do, he told
Speaker 6: me he was He told me he was done. Oh boy.
Speaker 6: He broke up with me over the phone. I said okay,
Speaker 6: and got on Hinge that night. Eh gal amazing. I
Speaker 6: felt like I had been manipulated and that there were
Speaker 6: a lot of red flags.
Speaker 1: You're correct.
Speaker 6: Two days later he apologized and said he would try
Speaker 6: to work something out. I took him back because he
Speaker 6: agreed to go to personal and couple's therapy with me.
Speaker 2: Guys, you're six month ends in your mid twenties. There's
Speaker 2: no couple's therapy. You just try someone new. This is insane.
Speaker 1: It turns out he saw that I changed a photo
Speaker 1: on my Hinge profile. Oh so he was also on Hinge.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: He's control and realized he made a big mistake. I
Speaker 6: secretly think he broke up with me to force me
Speaker 6: to agree to give up my cat.
Speaker 1: This guy sucks. Oh god.
Speaker 6: The way things stand now at six months, he has
Speaker 6: not agreed to try living with the cat in the future,
Speaker 6: and we don't talk about it much before he comes over.
Speaker 1: I vacuum everything the cat. Wait, listen to this before
Speaker 1: he comes over. I vacuum everything, change the bedding, wipe
Speaker 1: my cat with aller pet, feed her anti allergen food,
Speaker 1: et cetera. How good is this guy's dick?
Speaker 5: I help.
Speaker 6: His dick is so bomb girl that you can't get
Speaker 6: enough of it, and he just takes you to pound
Speaker 6: down when he's over.
Speaker 1: See you don't have time to talk about it. And
Speaker 1: photos here too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I gotta look at the photo after
Speaker 2: I hear all the bad things about this guy and
Speaker 2: then make make a really visceral reaction.
Speaker 6: I've suggested not letting her into the bedroom if we
Speaker 6: move in together, but nothing seems like nothing seems like enough,
Speaker 6: and he still won't take allergy pills, and I've yet
Speaker 6: to see another hive. I don't know that it's necessary
Speaker 6: that I hear him say he would try living with
Speaker 6: my cat in the future, but I would like to
Speaker 6: know that I'm not wasting my time.
Speaker 1: I mean you are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sometimes I think he might have undiagnosed OCD.
Speaker 1: Now he's just a cunt. Yeah, I have OCD. This
Speaker 1: is just so.
Speaker 2: This is just a weak man who wants things his way.
Speaker 2: This has nothing to Please, don't blame it on the
Speaker 2: OCD community.
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 6: But I am not a doctor, so have no business
Speaker 6: saying this. However, I'm wondering what Krinn.
Speaker 1: Thinks about this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've also asked him to speak with his therapist
Speaker 6: about this, but I don't think he has. I've attached
Speaker 6: photos of the two of us and also my cat.
Speaker 6: I can't thanks for in the Okay.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna like the cat. The cat's cute
Speaker 1: as hell. God, it's a cute cat. That's a cute
Speaker 1: ass cat.
Speaker 6: When I was little, the only my only safe space
Speaker 6: with three cats, and I was allergic to all three
Speaker 6: of them. And guess what, lady, I fucking slept in
Speaker 6: bed with him every night. And then you know what
Speaker 6: I did. I had my mom take me to the
Speaker 6: doctor and I got allergy shots so I could breathe
Speaker 6: while sleeping with the cat.
Speaker 1: That's love, baby.
Speaker 2: This guy looks like a fucking cashier at Armanniarchs exchange.
Speaker 1: Next, I'm good, there you go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is this is crazy. You've already been over
Speaker 6: backwards and he's this. He's not giving you good future signs.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I think the way that you are have an argument
Speaker 6: with somebody is really indicative of how pleasant your future
Speaker 6: together can be.
Speaker 1: And he he's pulling out a lot of immature stops here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think he just doesn't want to cats
Speaker 2: because he looks like he has like a euro trashy
Speaker 2: sense of style.
Speaker 1: And he he's like very.
Speaker 2: Metrosexual, and I don't think he wants cat hair on
Speaker 2: his turtle neck turtleneck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his leather jacket which Cater doesn't get on that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this motherfucker a man in a turtleneck. No thanks,
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 5: What's wrong with a turtleneck?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: Wow, turtlenut, leather turtleneck, leather jacket, combo.
Speaker 1: I actually I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2: That's why we're not fucking yeah.
Speaker 6: And that's why we are oh dropping a bomb?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah? Oh really, we're not fucking Sorry. Eight women
Speaker 1: on Instagram just got pissed at him.
Speaker 5: And one not on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, where you know someone not on Instagram.
Speaker 5: No, I meant like, not a DM slider.
Speaker 1: Know, somebody not on Instagram.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I don't know they
Speaker 2: trust that person. Yeah, I mean I don't know why
Speaker 2: you're still with this guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, as Uncle Joey would say,
Speaker 6: cut him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, why are we spending so much time
Speaker 2: on this guy?
Speaker 1: Why didn't hang out with your cat instead? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not worth it.
Speaker 6: I suffered so so much, and I still slept with
Speaker 6: my cats because I loved them and they were only
Speaker 6: creatures that gave me love as a child and I
Speaker 6: needed that. And I got allergy shots and I did
Speaker 6: it and I was a child.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was like, you can get
Speaker 1: a series of allergy shots.
Speaker 6: And I can be around cats now forever. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: what are you doing, sir? It sounds like he'd rather
Speaker 6: be right than find a solution.
Speaker 2: Right because Harrison is also allergic to cats, and his
Speaker 2: wife when they met, he had a cat and the
Speaker 2: cat's still there and they're married now, So there you go.
Speaker 2: It can work out. Is does a cat spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time in another room? Sure, but they have
Speaker 2: a house, so I would.
Speaker 6: Say, if it's true love, it could survive a cat. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And if it's not true love, it can't survive a cat. Yeah,
Speaker 6: baby girl, the same true love.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also weird that he's allergic to both cats
Speaker 1: and dogs. I know that's rare.
Speaker 6: That is rare, but I actually know one of my
Speaker 6: good friends is it's any animal danger, Like she can't
Speaker 6: go on your horses either, right, which.
Speaker 1: Is animals in general.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: But she didn't get allergy shots, So I'm wondering if
Speaker 6: he got allergy shots. If you, But honestly, I don't
Speaker 6: want him to get allergy shots. I want him to
Speaker 6: fucking walk around in his stubborn ass life and then
Speaker 6: get one high then one designated place.
Speaker 1: For twenty minutes and live with that suffering. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you should say that you have started an
Speaker 2: allergic reaction to him, and then also he dumped you
Speaker 2: out the wishy washiness again.
Speaker 1: The top of this sex talk of couples therapy.
Speaker 2: The age you're at under a year is absurd, absurd.
Speaker 1: Unnecessary, thank you.
Speaker 2: Next, it's an overcorrection of generations prior who refuse to
Speaker 2: go to therapy.
Speaker 1: This is an overcorrection.
Speaker 2: Try to go to therapy when you're just actually incompatible. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, and that's so much wasted effort. You can be
Speaker 6: doing that effort in your time. You just be watching
Speaker 6: some showing Netflix. That's a better spending of your time.
Speaker 2: Imagine how much cat scoop stuff you could What does
Speaker 2: that called the letter?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh get the glitter letter. You should.
Speaker 6: You should break up with them in a fun way,
Speaker 6: like take a bag of your cat's to poop and
Speaker 6: put it in a bag and tie it, you know,
Speaker 6: don't be an asshole, and then give it to them
Speaker 6: and say I'm throwing you out with this cat poop.
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, Bye bye, bitch fresh away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know anything about cats. Can we say
Speaker 1: save the day for December one?
Speaker 6: I guess yeah, because we've confirmed it all right, guys,
Speaker 6: So if you're hearing this, well, when you're hearing this,
Speaker 6: our October nineteenth show has already passed and hopefully it
Speaker 6: sold own knows the best show of our lives And
Speaker 6: the next one is going to be December first at
Speaker 6: midnight theater. So the ticket link is not available yet,
Speaker 6: but save that date, baby, because we're coming back.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people were asking.
Speaker 2: We had to reschedule the November date because there ended
Speaker 2: up being a conflict. So if you're like, what happened
Speaker 2: to that November date, that's why it's going to be
Speaker 2: replaced by this December first date.
Speaker 6: Yes, And if you want to hear more of us,
Speaker 6: I have my solo podcast. It's back the Voices in
Speaker 6: our Heads. It's back at Slickback Studios. Right every Monday.
Speaker 6: Episodes come out wherever you listen to podcasts, and pretty
Speaker 6: soon there's going to be YouTube page because I'm going
Speaker 6: to make it one day, because that's a duel list
Speaker 6: keep staring me in the face, so I keep not
Speaker 6: doing it. I'm going to do it, Mike, and come
Speaker 6: see us live on the road. I have dates coming
Speaker 6: up Chicago, Shit, what are they fuck? It's Chicago and Nashville,
Speaker 6: tennis See. Oh, Chicago's gonna be November tenth and eleventh,
Speaker 6: and I'll be in Nashville, Tennessee. These are all at
Speaker 6: Zany's Comedy Club Sunday, November twelfth. Tickets are available at
Speaker 6: Christina Hutchinson dot com.
Speaker 1: And if you.
Speaker 6: Fancy yourself some group therapy, which the lady who wrote
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Speaker 6: Have I read a lot of self help books, have
Speaker 6: been through home back.
Speaker 1: Yes I have.
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Speaker 1: And for me, you can see me live in New York.
Speaker 2: You can see me on Thursday, October twenty sixth in
Speaker 2: Brooklyn at Oldman Hustle Brooklyn Comedy Club. That's an eight
Speaker 2: pm show. It's a one off of new material called
Speaker 2: Scary New. It's me, Ryan Long, Danny Polishchuk, Love for
Speaker 2: Chloela Branch and John Campanelli running just some new material
Speaker 2: at Brooklyn Comedy Club. Ticket link is available in the
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Speaker 2: on the road just I have a twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: date which is Washington DC, DC Comedy Loft. That's February
Speaker 2: twenty ninth through March, second full weekend there, and then
Speaker 2: of course the next gash is Wednesday, November eighth at
Speaker 2: eight pm. Again, I'm just telling listeners before I put
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Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I was listening to the C word because it's the
Speaker 2: only thing that can get me to clean my apartment.
Speaker 2: The only time my apartment gets clean is when Alyssa.
Speaker 1: Bennett and Lena Dunham were talking to me.
Speaker 2: And I had never listened to the Vampira episode, which
Speaker 2: is crazy, but I started listening to it in honor
Speaker 2: of Halloween. Very interesting, and Alyssa Bennett often talks about
Speaker 2: this theme of women who originate certain concepts never getting
Speaker 2: the credit, especially during their lifetime of doing it. And
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, the story of Vampira is, guys,
Speaker 2: we fucked and call her daddy?
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Guys? We fucked?
Speaker 2: Is Vampira and Elvira is called her daddy. And you
Speaker 2: know what happens to Vampira.
Speaker 6: She goes broke and no one wants to fuck her anymore.
Speaker 6: She exactly, she dies penniless. Yeah, she dies penniless and
Speaker 6: alone and ostracized by her cap. So, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was listening to this and I was like, well, doesn't
Speaker 2: this sound familiar?
Speaker 1: Wow. Basically, Vampire wanted to do things her way.
Speaker 2: She created the character, this vamp vampiric character that to host,
Speaker 2: you know, a late night show about scary movies. And
Speaker 2: then she wasn't like sorry, she wasn't like doing anything
Speaker 2: the way that they wanted her to do, and so
Speaker 2: they hired the what's her name Cassandra Peterson to play Elvira,
Speaker 2: and Vampire even actually tried to sue el Vira and.
Speaker 5: She lost, damn.
Speaker 2: And then and so a lot of people, uh you know,
Speaker 2: kind of then turned their backs on Vampira because they're like,
Speaker 2: why are you bullying Elvira? And she was like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: this I mean and I'm not saying that Cassandra Peterson
Speaker 2: did it like out of like ill intention.
Speaker 1: I think she was just sick an actor who needed work.
Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily so, I mean, I guess there
Speaker 2: was a barstool sports duplace here.
Speaker 1: We need a hotter Vampira, I don't want to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Vampire is pretty hot too.
Speaker 2: She was fucking she fucked, like I believe she fucked
Speaker 2: Marlon Brando, Orson Wells.
Speaker 1: And she's who else did she fuck? Did she fuck
Speaker 1: Boris carl Off? Jesus, good for her, she should host
Speaker 1: guys with.
Speaker 2: And I think she actually fucked a twenty one year
Speaker 2: old Elvis? She said, too, is that right a timeline?
Speaker 5: I'm searching again.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm pretty sure this is all again. When
Speaker 2: you're you know, we're clearing the the Marlon Brando is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. The works in Welsham. It's like one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Or they were like they have very deep
Speaker 2: friendships and stuff and they fucked. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's she. She fucked a lot of interesting celebrities and
Speaker 2: also had a very very interesting upbringing, you know, obviously,
Speaker 2: like she created Vampire because she was rebelling against how
Speaker 2: she was brought up, very you know, button up and
Speaker 2: her mom. It made her work in like a tune
Speaker 2: of fish factory sick. And she was like, you're I
Speaker 2: forgot a real name. But she was like, you're this
Speaker 2: bitch and you work in a tuna factory. And she
Speaker 2: was like, fuck no.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm Vampira.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go live my life and shew my titties
Speaker 2: to people, and her mom's like, no, you're not, You're
Speaker 2: just a fish girl.
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, more than that, and then she
Speaker 1: came more than that. Yeah, but then she got trampled
Speaker 1: by a Listen, I mean vampire.
Speaker 2: Any anyone who's really into like that genre is very
Speaker 2: familiar with vampire, and Vampire does still show up on
Speaker 2: a lot of like horror or when you go to
Speaker 2: like a you know, you know, monster a Go Go
Speaker 2: or something, shout out, my favorite store in La, Why
Speaker 2: did you move to a place that I'm literally never near.
Speaker 2: They're in like East La. Now, come on, guys, but
Speaker 2: Monster Go Go hot store. It's like an independent hot topic.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she still does appear on stuff. But obviously
Speaker 2: culturally Elvira much bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Campier, a little sexier, not like sexier, like I think
Speaker 2: she is more sexually appealing, but like they vamped it
Speaker 2: up a little bit more, the titties a little bit
Speaker 2: more out, you know, different times, a little she's you know,
Speaker 2: virus a little more modern though.
Speaker 1: So wow, this has been happening since, yeah, for decades.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, when I heard Alyssa talking about that concept
Speaker 2: on another episode months ago.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, that is a that's a.
Speaker 2: Good point to make because that's one of one of
Speaker 2: her favorite patterns to trace. You know, in culture history
Speaker 2: is the people that originate the thing very often do
Speaker 2: not get credit for it, are not and are not remembered.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if tight everyone, your brilliant idea is
Speaker 1: going to be scooped up by someone younger and hotter
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get richer off of it.
Speaker 6: I wonder if that will happen more because of social media.
Speaker 6: Like you, if somebody's on the rise or they're not
Speaker 6: big yet and they do something really innovative and unique
Speaker 6: and you're already big, you kind of just take it,
Speaker 6: or you already have some following, you could take it
Speaker 6: and fucking steal it and no one knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's also the problem is like being a little
Speaker 2: bit ahead of your time.
Speaker 1: So like, even as successful.
Speaker 2: As we were, it was still you know what we
Speaker 2: were talking about, and podcasting as a whole was still
Speaker 2: pretty niche while we start launched.
Speaker 6: You know, absolutely, I've been thinking about Pamela Anderson. I
Speaker 6: love that woman so much, and I loved when she
Speaker 6: went to.
Speaker 1: Paris Fashion make without makeup. Yes, I really liked that.
Speaker 6: I was like, damn, dude, that that's a good move.
Speaker 6: And I thought about, you know, going to an event.
Speaker 6: I know, we wrote a sketch a while ago about
Speaker 6: like the girl version of Jackass, but it wouldn't be
Speaker 6: like physical stunts of like stapling a phone built to
Speaker 6: our tit. It would more be things that are scary
Speaker 6: for women, much like stapling a phone bill to your
Speaker 6: chest would be for a man. And one of this
Speaker 6: scenarios we came up with was going to a nightclub
Speaker 6: with no makeup and taking one step further than Pamela
Speaker 6: took it and not even having a cute dress, like
Speaker 6: wearing like a shitty stained outfit and how like that?
Speaker 6: To me, that's like, you know, like a nightmare. Like
Speaker 6: you know, I was at this. I was at the
Speaker 6: ball and I look like shit and everybody look good.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, I'm like, I don't if I
Speaker 1: went to an event with no makeup on, I couldn't relax.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I could easily do it, especially now at
Speaker 2: this age, I cause I like so often I'll just
Speaker 2: be caught off guard and my young vivacious friends will
Speaker 2: be like, you want to go do like a strip club,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm in sweatpants and I have no
Speaker 2: makeup on shore, you know, like I just don't care anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's good.
Speaker 6: That's the wiser that's the wiser way to think about it.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, well, I was trying to interrogate. I'm like,
Speaker 6: what about It wouldn't sit right with me? And it's
Speaker 6: like this, It's goes back to people pleasery. I think
Speaker 6: of like I just want to look good, Like I
Speaker 6: don't like not looking good. I want to look my
Speaker 6: best all the time, you know, especially in an event
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I had wanted to do a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago. I guess the tour maybe that I had
Speaker 2: planned right when COVID hit. I was going to do
Speaker 2: an entire stand up tour without makeup. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, well, I don't want to just bury my career,
Speaker 2: you know, because the thing is though, so you know,
Speaker 2: you you would think it would be an easier thing
Speaker 2: to do with us having a primarily female audience, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I actually think it would be worse
Speaker 2: because they would be more judge or absolutely, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there would be pictures, there would be rude comments all
Speaker 2: over the internet, and so it's like, you know, it's weird,
Speaker 2: we're kind of keeping ourselves prisoner to this.
Speaker 6: But are we also keeping ourselves prisoner by continuing to
Speaker 6: wear makeup? Is what I was wondering, because you already
Speaker 6: saw my face with makeup. When you see it without,
Speaker 6: it's I'm not vastly different, but like Pamela Anderson is
Speaker 6: goddamn gorgeous, but she looks like she's ill in these photo,
Speaker 6: like you know, but not her like happiness and stuff.
Speaker 6: But you know, I just know I wouldn't feel like
Speaker 6: dealing with people's because there's so many jobs that I had,
Speaker 6: like nine to five her jobs before week with them
Speaker 6: to do comedy full time, where I would come in
Speaker 6: without makeup and just be met with her.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I've done episodes of the podcast without
Speaker 2: makeup when I didn't feel like putting it on. I've done,
Speaker 2: and I've done I do shows regularly without makeup.
Speaker 6: I mean maybe the lighting is, yeah, it is helpful,
Speaker 6: but I just, yeah, I know I wouldn't feel like
Speaker 6: dealing with.
Speaker 1: The with the reactions.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I'm like, I gotta stop wear I'm like,
Speaker 6: should I just stop wearing makeup?
Speaker 1: And then I was like, Nope, well, I think it
Speaker 1: only need a bunch. I think it would be kind
Speaker 1: of similar to the vampire thing. I would think.
Speaker 2: I think that if we started not wearing makeup would
Speaker 2: be ahead of our time, and we would ultimately be
Speaker 2: ostracized by society because of our ugly no makeup faces.
Speaker 2: And then maybe in a decade or two, having no
Speaker 2: makeup on will be the norm, especially sorry Ronnie, by
Speaker 2: the looks of you know gen Z as a whole.
Speaker 2: So right, we have a young person in the studio today.
Speaker 2: She's not even she can't even hear. She can't even hear.
Speaker 2: I'm just trashing gen Z, not her specifically, though.
Speaker 5: We've done worse in the studio. I think that.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to encourage gen Z to dress any better. Okay,
Speaker 2: I love what you're wearing. That's why that's why the
Speaker 2: peggy you're just.
Speaker 5: Looking to ride this wave.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why there was a gay gasp in the
Speaker 2: front row when I was doing stand up yesterday when
Speaker 2: I said I was thirty eight and the guy goes, no,
Speaker 2: you're not. He was like a guy in his early twenties,
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, that's just because you're you're
Speaker 2: used to gen Z women who took a T shirt
Speaker 2: out of the Lost and Founds, and I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that tree. It's good for everybody. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I love it. Please keep riding on it. We had
Speaker 2: crazy fat, crazy fat low rise jeans millennials did please.
Speaker 2: Even when I was in my early twenties, I was
Speaker 2: never a fit for low rise jeans.
Speaker 1: That was not a thing I was doing. Was forever.
Speaker 6: Low rise jeans I wore in the seventh grade because
Speaker 6: I wanted I was in love with my teacher.
Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to wear shit like that. We would
Speaker 2: get some too the principal's office.
Speaker 1: I did have a teacher.
Speaker 6: I want to say her name because it's so funny,
Speaker 6: but I'm not going to because that's rude. She was
Speaker 6: a math teacher. She looked she looked amish. She was
Speaker 6: not amish, but she looked at and uh. She asked
Speaker 6: me what I was wearing, and she was like, I
Speaker 6: can see your vagina and I was like, no, you can't,
Speaker 6: I can like the she mean the outline or I
Speaker 6: didn't know. I'm so low that she was. But she
Speaker 6: can't see my vagina. I'm like, you cannot see my vagina,
Speaker 6: you could see my flat ass stomach.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: She didn't like that comment.
Speaker 6: No, I was, Yeah, I was very man, she called me,
Speaker 6: and she's edge, you're dressed like a slut.
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I ever got slutshame.
Speaker 1: Laura Jeans, Yeah, they're a teacher. Teachers do start a
Speaker 1: lot of the slut shaming.
Speaker 2: And it's also weird, Like it's weird because there is
Speaker 2: this like you like, are like, are you jealous of
Speaker 2: a twelve year old? And I think, yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: little that's a little concerning that concern concerning oh, like like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's because it's because, like I think, the teaching in
Speaker 2: a school environment almost mentally puts them in a school
Speaker 2: environment again, and it's like they're they're back to when
Speaker 2: they didn't get any mail attention. But it's like, who
Speaker 2: the fuck wants the attention of fucking When I was
Speaker 2: in seventh grade, Well maybe when I was in seventh grade,
Speaker 2: I did want the attention of seventh grade boys, but
Speaker 2: I quickly, I quickly you know figured out that that
Speaker 2: was not the way I wanted salvation.
Speaker 6: What was I Yeah, when I was in seventh grade,
Speaker 6: seventh grade boys didn't exist to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know who you are, Get out
Speaker 1: of my way.
Speaker 2: I just want one guy shout out great, you know
Speaker 2: he was pretty hot, nicey Greg.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what happened to him. I was
Speaker 1: into all the teachers and all my friends dads. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fucked up. Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 6: Guys in November on Guys, we fucked We are dedicating
Speaker 6: our episodes in November. This is an idea that we've
Speaker 6: had for quite some time that we're really excited about.
Speaker 1: We're focusing on men. Yeah, masculinity.
Speaker 6: It's going to be called men a Celebration, and our
Speaker 6: interviews are just going to be focused on different aspects
Speaker 6: of manhood, of manliness, of masculinity from the perspective of
Speaker 6: of men who have a lot of unique life experiences,
Speaker 6: men across the spectrum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is a man? I don't know. I don't Uh. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a fall up to what as a woman? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, getting deep different angle, yeah, put of a different
Speaker 2: angle on ours.
Speaker 6: But I've had a lot of conversations with my because
Speaker 6: I talk about this, you know, a lot on the
Speaker 6: podcast because sometimes we'll get women emailing us about a
Speaker 6: guy that they're seeing who's doing some atrocious things. And
Speaker 6: so I always try to just for my own mental
Speaker 6: sanity and to not pay like paint men in a
Speaker 6: bad light.
Speaker 1: Remind you would want to do that.
Speaker 7: Not me.
Speaker 6: I have to remind myself and the audience, but a
Speaker 6: lot myself that, like, there are some incredible men out there.
Speaker 6: And I've had conversations with my male friends the last
Speaker 6: couple of months since we started talking about this idea
Speaker 6: about like.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to you, like be a man?
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you?
Speaker 6: And I kind of say, I didn't get a lot
Speaker 6: of straightforward answers. They were like I never thought about
Speaker 6: that really, because masculinity really affects men and you know,
Speaker 6: kind of a detrimental way, like it puts it. It's
Speaker 6: it's shaming. It's like the Catholic Church in a way,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of shame. There's a lot of shame
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think there's like a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: to provide, not enough for anyone to actually be doing it, but.
Speaker 5: I mean in the circles that we've run in, that's true,
Speaker 5: but I don't know about everywhere.
Speaker 6: But the providing thing is it's an irrelevant point at
Speaker 6: this point, like in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Why they feel like they have no purpose? Right?
Speaker 2: So I think I think a lot of the problem
Speaker 2: with like toxic masculinity is honestly, like men feel like
Speaker 2: societally they don't have like what is our purpose? What
Speaker 2: is our place? What are we supposed to be doing?
Speaker 2: And it's just like, how would just be a decent person?
Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, your place can be a kind, caring, loving partner,
Speaker 6: and then if you have kids, a kind, caring, loving dad.
Speaker 6: And then also, like we've talked about a lot, you know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of men. The men like my particularly
Speaker 6: my boyfriend has a lot of friends. And I was
Speaker 6: blown away by that, and that made me realize how
Speaker 6: men don't have as many friends on average that women have,
Speaker 6: and they're not they don't do friend hangs as much
Speaker 6: as myself and my female friends do.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that it depends.
Speaker 2: I've had boyfriends who have a lot of friends, and
Speaker 2: I've had boyfriends who don't have a lot of friends.
Speaker 2: I think that also, like men need to be a
Speaker 2: little bit more creative with their gender roles, right, I
Speaker 2: think women got a very creative with their gender roles
Speaker 2: much quicker. And men were like like if I don't provide,
Speaker 2: if I don't make money, and fuck lady, what do
Speaker 2: I do? And it's just like, well, you know so,
Speaker 2: or have a book club or drink a glass of wine.
Speaker 1: Women do start a garden. Yeah, put your hands in
Speaker 1: the dirt.
Speaker 2: Women had a lot of other options that we got
Speaker 2: to quite quickly.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I and I've been watching a lot of
Speaker 6: sports lately, just because when you have a boyfriend you
Speaker 6: watch sports and and war documentaries. And uh, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: this sport. I like sports. I do get it.
Speaker 1: We've lost her, No, no, no, this is celebration. We've
Speaker 1: lost Christina.
Speaker 6: Well, rugby my favorite sport. I mean that's just truly,
Speaker 6: it's just a pile of Jason momoa is touching each
Speaker 6: other's butts like rugby. I cannot recommend.
Speaker 5: It outrageous that you like rugby and not football.
Speaker 6: I know I do like football. I love I mean,
Speaker 6: eat e gel eat x duh. Come on, I fucking
Speaker 6: love football. I watch football since I was like in
Speaker 6: middle school when I moved to Philly, back to Philly
Speaker 6: in middle school, and I do love I fucking love sports.
Speaker 6: Sports are really fun. It's fun to cheer. And then
Speaker 6: also you think about like sports is it's an ancient tradition.
Speaker 1: Like when we toured the Mayan Ruins, they talked very different.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, we've we've knocked sports for years
Speaker 2: on this show.
Speaker 1: No, we have, we have I have.
Speaker 2: To call ourselves out on this. No, I've never heard
Speaker 2: you say I love sports. We were even like I
Speaker 2: really pitched your show.
Speaker 6: That was anti sports its called anything but sports. Yes, no,
Speaker 6: but meaning when I I don't love it like I
Speaker 6: don't I'm not invested emotionally in any way in a sport.
Speaker 6: The only time I've ever been invested in sport is
Speaker 6: truly is the Eagles when they when they are you know,
Speaker 6: go to the Super Bowl, I get really excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the next I love I genuinely live
Speaker 2: basketball and the next.
Speaker 1: But that's it. Yeah, So it's not I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not enveloped in the in the world of sports. But
Speaker 1: you know, I love what I love sports. I love
Speaker 1: that men have sports.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's nice, get together with your bros, fucking drink
Speaker 6: some beers.
Speaker 1: But football is the.
Speaker 2: Problem is that it ruins half of every week. That's
Speaker 2: my problem with it.
Speaker 1: I I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't like when a guy his mood changes when
Speaker 6: his team loses. Because one is, when we were over
Speaker 6: Mixis and the Eagles lost the Super Bowl. I was like,
Speaker 6: all right, they lost, Okay, let's go like you don't
Speaker 6: like I don't. I've I dated a guy once who like,
Speaker 6: if his team lost, he would just be solid the
Speaker 6: whole day.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you got, come on, stop. That means
Speaker 2: he doesn't have anything else going on in his life.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I mean I that's why it's easy.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I could ever date a football
Speaker 2: guy again because I dated a football guy for a
Speaker 2: while and that was rough.
Speaker 1: That's too much time one team because some guys have
Speaker 1: multiple teams. I'm like, just pick one.
Speaker 2: It was one team, but it felt like this team
Speaker 2: played more than other teams.
Speaker 1: I'm also implant four games or is he rewatching it?
Speaker 1: Because that's another thing. Guys do.
Speaker 6: They fucking rewatch sports game sometimes, but then they watch
Speaker 6: you watch the game, you comment on the game, you
Speaker 6: text and call your friends if they're not with you
Speaker 6: while you're watching the game, and then you watch a
Speaker 6: bunch of dudes who used to play the game talk
Speaker 6: about the game you just saw, and you're just as riveted,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, there, you could be doing better stuff
Speaker 6: with your time.
Speaker 5: It's called the postgame recap, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: What what? What is a game? There's a there's a
Speaker 2: show where they talk about the game that just happened,
Speaker 2: and they show clips from that game.
Speaker 6: That's why you can't remember important holidays or birthdays and
Speaker 6: ship you're too busy reliving a game.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I knew I one hundred percent wasn't a lesbian when
Speaker 2: one time a guy looked at his phone and said, oh,
Speaker 2: you got to see this play and then went like this,
Speaker 2: And then I watched it and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm thirsty for that dick.
Speaker 1: Glug Glug Go team, Give me that dog, give me
Speaker 1: that dong. So yeah, so we wanted to we want
Speaker 1: to focus the month of November. I forgot we were
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pro promo. I just unmasculinity
Speaker 1: and I would be curious. I would be curious.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of facets of masculinity that I would
Speaker 6: like to get into. But I'd be curious to hear
Speaker 6: from our male listeners, male identifying listeners, what does being
Speaker 6: a man mean to you?
Speaker 2: Well, Christina, it means fucking fucking dudes and not calling
Speaker 2: him back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But.
Speaker 6: Also like i'd be curious, like what do you like
Speaker 6: about masculinity and what do you not like? Because I
Speaker 6: feel like every every every person in the world has
Speaker 6: masculine energy and feminine energy, but.
Speaker 1: They have except for that cat guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah he only has feminine energy. No, he only has
Speaker 6: content energy. But we all have our unique balance of it.
Speaker 6: And so I think that I often see like, really
Speaker 6: machismo guys completely deny that they have any sense of
Speaker 6: feminine energy.
Speaker 1: They're not outright saying that, but like they're don't touch
Speaker 1: my bott I'm not gay, like all right, all.
Speaker 6: Right, but yeah, I'm just be curious to hear from
Speaker 6: our male listeners about about it.
Speaker 1: Well, you said, you said you've been posing the question
Speaker 1: what is a man? What does it mean to be
Speaker 1: a man to you?
Speaker 2: But I don't know that I can, but like, so
Speaker 2: like if someone asked you.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to be a woman? What?
Speaker 2: What? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you say? Because I don't. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just so different.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when I when I'm asked, when you
Speaker 6: ask that question, I think about it. I I more
Speaker 6: so go what are my How do I lean into
Speaker 6: my femininity?
Speaker 1: Right? Not? Not really? Maybe I pose the question wrong
Speaker 1: because it's like what is a woman? I no, No,
Speaker 1: no one knows.
Speaker 2: Right, because I feel like, uh, I feel like when
Speaker 2: I think of what a woman is, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of qualities that I don't have. Like I'm just like
Speaker 2: I think of a like of a big like a
Speaker 2: big earth goddess with like a belly full of baby,
Speaker 2: a very ethereal very you know Penn Badgeley's wife, you
Speaker 2: know midwife clavical long hair.
Speaker 1: Well, I do have the long hair.
Speaker 2: Now, I got to say, having this hair this long,
Speaker 2: really does we got it? Mike having hair this long?
Speaker 2: He's tapping on his wrist. That's like back studios to
Speaker 2: let us know.
Speaker 1: Oh, our guess, our guess is running a little light.
Speaker 1: So's yeah.
Speaker 2: And I do feel a lot more feminine with with
Speaker 2: my princess hair because I haven't had hair this long
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe like in ten years, probably like
Speaker 2: look when we started, guy, Well, of course guys like
Speaker 2: it because they go, oh, it tones down the abrasiveness.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't hear me as much because the
Speaker 2: hair is blocking out some of the loudness of the voice.
Speaker 1: I think. But it has been weird, oh a lot.
Speaker 1: All the every guy has been like, oh, I love
Speaker 1: your hair. I love your hair. Wow, it's hair, hair
Speaker 1: like hair so long. I love ladies long blonde, lady
Speaker 1: hair with titties. Long, giving me lady hair, Give me
Speaker 1: a pussy. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I also think when I think of being a woman,
Speaker 6: I think I don't think much of the mother Earth.
Speaker 1: Version. I think more of the divine feminine right.
Speaker 6: Eminine is like the femininity like very sexy and very
Speaker 6: but the thing is like and just like men, there's
Speaker 6: so many different types of women. There are women in
Speaker 6: the world that really lean into their sexuality that fucking
Speaker 6: wreak it and you walk into the room and you're like,
Speaker 6: who is that? You know, regardless of how they look,
Speaker 6: it's just a vibe that they carry that's very sexual.
Speaker 6: There's some women that don't give a rats ass about
Speaker 6: what they look like.
Speaker 1: What they wear. They're a fucking engineer.
Speaker 6: They have kids and they're doing their thing, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 6: that's she didn't buy into the crap that society pushed on.
Speaker 1: That's pretty nice. Yeah, there's and there's there's so many
Speaker 1: there's just.
Speaker 6: So many types of women, and there are so many
Speaker 6: types of men. It just doesn't seem like as much.
Speaker 6: But I say that because I'm not a man, So
Speaker 6: tell me men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll meet them. We'll introduce you a couple. Welcome
Speaker 2: to our neighborhood. Full of men, different types, Yeah, different sets,
Speaker 2: some short, some tall, some skinny, some fat, some happy,
Speaker 2: some sand some smart, some not that smart smart smart smart,
Speaker 2: all right, guys, our guests.
Speaker 6: Our guest is very smart. She's lovely, she's a woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One of my favorite comedians. She's been one of my
Speaker 6: favorite comedians since I was like nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: Make sure to say that right into the right into
Speaker 1: her face when she walks in. She was like my
Speaker 1: first favorite comedian other than Gilda Runner, like my first
Speaker 1: since I was a kid and you were an adult.
Speaker 1: I'm younger. No, I mean people say that to us.
Speaker 6: When people say that to me, they're like I've been
Speaker 6: listening to you since I was like eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fuck. I don't know. I just think
Speaker 1: that's all. I like, it doesn't bother me at all.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 6: And yeah, she's just she's one of the great stand
Speaker 6: up comedians and we're really happy to have her on
Speaker 6: the show for a second time.
Speaker 1: The first time was in LA. Yeah, and that interview
Speaker 1: was in LA. That's actually a good interview.
Speaker 2: Ah, she gives a great interview. And I just saw
Speaker 2: some of her new material actually in LA, and I
Speaker 2: got very I got very excited about the topics that
Speaker 2: she's speaking.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, She's one of those comics that can
Speaker 1: make me belly laugh till I cry, Like she.
Speaker 6: Touches on exactly the ship that I think about. Then
Speaker 6: I just really love it, and you're gonna love her too.
Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to guys.
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Speaker 6: you're like, oh fuck, you're insane. Yeah, NICKI were so
Speaker 6: happy to have you back on to here. We were
Speaker 6: talking before we started recording about jealousy. A lot of
Speaker 6: great topics, but one of them that I was like, Oh,
Speaker 6: I made me ponder and I wanted to save this
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Speaker 3: Think in fers that you like to be like in
Speaker 3: the corner, tied up and kind of.
Speaker 1: Like why are you fucking my boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I don't like the humiliated part.
Speaker 3: I like the part of like, yeah, you can fuck him,
Speaker 3: like good, nice, try try to get him away from me.
Speaker 3: I want you to try to think that you're going
Speaker 3: to steal him from me. And I like and I like, like,
Speaker 3: it's not about that. It's not about like oh, a
Speaker 3: little girl, I'm gonna embarrass you or anything.
Speaker 10: It's it's it's.
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Speaker 3: competitive and I want to keep competing for my whole
Speaker 3: relationship the rest of my life. I always feel like
Speaker 3: I'm winning, and that's a really sad thing. Like don't
Speaker 3: you ever feel safe, Nikki? It's like I do, but
Speaker 3: I don't like feeling safe. I like even with stand up,
Speaker 3: like I really sometimes I smoke weed intentionally before I
Speaker 3: go on stage because I want to feel anxious and
Speaker 3: I'm bored with feeling I feel comfortable now and I
Speaker 3: want to feel like anxious to get And I just
Speaker 3: talked to my doctor about it because I was like
Speaker 3: my psychiatrist because I'm trying to figure out my med
Speaker 3: situation and I'm like why do.
Speaker 10: I seek out weed?
Speaker 1: Like why is?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Is because I struggle with weed because it's like makes
Speaker 3: me feel great in the short term, and then the
Speaker 3: long term it ends up like depressing me and I
Speaker 3: feel like dependent on it and it makes me feel
Speaker 3: dumb and all the things. And I'm like why, And
Speaker 3: then I figured out on my own as I was
Speaker 3: talking to him, I was like, I like the people,
Speaker 3: the thing that people complain about, the paranoia you get,
Speaker 3: like the overthinking.
Speaker 10: I like that. That gets me to be like I'm
Speaker 10: not doing enough, like okay, I.
Speaker 1: Need to work now. And then motivation.
Speaker 3: It motivates me, and that's why I'm like, I've always
Speaker 3: felt such guilt about why I want to smoke weed
Speaker 3: all the time, and I'm realizing, no, it's just because
Speaker 3: I want to be productive and I want to feel better. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have a lot of so cucking. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's what we're talking about. I just keep therapy this week.
Speaker 3: This is clearly jealous.
Speaker 1: I really did.
Speaker 6: But so you're not a jealous person, a jealous girl,
Speaker 6: like I'm trying to write this bit about like I didn't.
Speaker 6: I never thought I was a jealous girlfriend until I
Speaker 6: dated a guy that other people wanted to fuck Like
Speaker 6: I never dated like a hot guy.
Speaker 1: That's so funny.
Speaker 3: I always thought you were like so cool, you were
Speaker 3: just dating guys, but no one else.
Speaker 5: Now my boyfriends.
Speaker 1: He's handsome, he's a singer, he's tall. Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Your boyfriend super Oh my god, yes, dream to me.
Speaker 3: He's a musician, he's a front man.
Speaker 6: He's a dreamy, dreamboat and so and usually, like in
Speaker 6: the past, when women would have my boyfriends, I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's right, he's fucking sexy.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like the fuck away, what are you doing? Right?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Christina, who are you?
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because he's the one, you know, like maybe
Speaker 3: maybe that's it, or maybe you truly are threatened, Like
Speaker 3: do you I don't want to say that you don't
Speaker 3: trust him?
Speaker 1: Is there a part of you that doesn't?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 1: I do dress and we have a really good communication.
Speaker 1: But I'm like this, it's more like it's internal on
Speaker 1: my end, I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is, oh, you
Speaker 1: never dated a hawk eye before?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that it's actually there is a threat there because
Speaker 3: girls are coming at him even harder.
Speaker 10: That's interesting. That's I think part of why I want that.
Speaker 3: I want I want other girls to be into my
Speaker 3: boyfriend so that he has that value where I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I got a prize. I'm like that because I know
Speaker 3: I love him and he could look like whatever now
Speaker 3: and I still love him. But now it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: he's still I got a tool trophy like I want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like nice rings. I don't even like nice things.
Speaker 3: I don't even know why I said that. I don't
Speaker 3: like I don't drive a nice car. I don't have
Speaker 3: a nice home, like I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really your.
Speaker 2: Instagram story or like I want jewelry and at fifty
Speaker 2: to three hundred dollars rate.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And even that I felt like what am I?
Speaker 1: I'm bougie like that.
Speaker 3: I don't like nice things because I will lose them.
Speaker 3: And my mom told me as a kid, like you
Speaker 3: don't you ruin everything you get?
Speaker 10: That's not like I get.
Speaker 3: I still chocolate on things like kind bars, it's spilling everywhere,
Speaker 3: Like I have fanny packs, Like I don't like nice things,
Speaker 3: but they're something about like the friends I keep, the
Speaker 3: people I associate with, like I want them to be
Speaker 3: people that everyone else goes. Man, I wish I could
Speaker 3: be friends with that person, like I like, I like
Speaker 3: the people I'm around. That elevates me. It gives me,
Speaker 3: I guess, some sense of self esteem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but those are things that actually are valuable though,
Speaker 6: because like I was saying the other night, I was like,
Speaker 6: I don't I don't understand an expensive engagement ring that
Speaker 6: actually pisses me off because it's a waste of money
Speaker 6: and we just bought into it. We just were all saying, yes,
Speaker 6: we agree that if he doesn't give you a very
Speaker 6: fancy ring, it doesn't love you.
Speaker 1: That that would piss me off so much.
Speaker 6: If my my fiance got me like an expensive ring,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't like.
Speaker 3: It unless they could like really afford it, right, then
Speaker 3: it's fine. But if it's like like what three months
Speaker 3: of their salary or something that's really reckless and a.
Speaker 10: Stupid thing to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And most people can't tell.
Speaker 3: The difference between like a fake thing and a nice
Speaker 3: am I am I crazy? Like do you guys have
Speaker 3: good tasted? Can you tell the difference with something's like
Speaker 3: a fine.
Speaker 2: Jewelry or from what I used to be a guy
Speaker 2: who was an actual jeweler, and he could tell so
Speaker 2: you need to be a jeweler to be able to
Speaker 2: be an expert, and studied it.
Speaker 3: Right, and was he always did. He have that little
Speaker 3: thing with him.
Speaker 1: But he does not work though. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know the difference between nice stuff
Speaker 3: and not nice stuff, Like as long as it's new looking,
Speaker 3: I don't know, and like kept nice. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that I've never cared about jewelry or like
Speaker 3: a ring, and I only ask to see girls rings
Speaker 3: because I just think that's the right thing.
Speaker 1: It's like social.
Speaker 6: I asked too, But then when they show me, I'm like,
Speaker 6: oh god, damn.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm like, he does love you more than someone
Speaker 3: who doesn't get nothing of a ring. Yeah, it's there's
Speaker 3: it works and I would want that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also like it's expensive because like in olden days,
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be like you know, some kind
Speaker 2: of like a doubt, Like it's supposed to be like
Speaker 2: a dowry, something that's worth something. So if he fucks
Speaker 2: you over, you have this this money.
Speaker 1: We've just carried it over.
Speaker 2: Like mostly everything about weddings, I think is pretty archaic
Speaker 2: and about property and ownership. Yeah, so it's kind of
Speaker 2: just like things that were actually like providing security for
Speaker 2: the woman, but now it doesn't really matter. And I
Speaker 2: mean most women, well no, I don't want to see
Speaker 2: most women, but a lot of women would give it back.
Speaker 2: I think there's like fifty percent of women who would
Speaker 2: give it back because it would be too emotionally hurtful.
Speaker 1: And then you know the other half would be like
Speaker 1: I'm selling it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I've always thought it's weird that you like can't
Speaker 3: put a ring on that finger if you're not, like
Speaker 3: that finger is like my best finger, and I still
Speaker 3: do I put a ring on it. But I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I hope no one takes that serious, Like, but that's
Speaker 3: so weird that that ringer, he's just for women who
Speaker 3: are married.
Speaker 10: You can't do it otherwise.
Speaker 3: And then I also think it answers a signed to
Speaker 3: be like, don't talk to her, right, she's taken, like
Speaker 3: this is my little I put a stamp on her.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And then I think it's funny.
Speaker 3: I used to was working on a bit about how
Speaker 3: men have to like wear rings when they get married
Speaker 3: because like women don't want to date men with jewelry,
Speaker 3: So it's like almost like don't don't fuck?
Speaker 1: Can he a story?
Speaker 3: So like I think we need to update it, we
Speaker 3: need to get that Like uh, I was like, we
Speaker 3: should do like a wedding fedora, like they just everywhere
Speaker 3: like a tank top or something that he's taken girls
Speaker 3: don't talk to us.
Speaker 1: Got his wedding day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah we should get married. No, because I
Speaker 3: remember Ali Wong saying this to me once. She was like,
Speaker 3: we don't need to get married. We like are on
Speaker 3: stage every night getting attention all the time, Like most
Speaker 3: women don't have that this that's that's their day to
Speaker 3: be famous and like to get attention from strangers, and
Speaker 3: we don't need that. She went ahead and got married
Speaker 3: and had a whole wedding ceremony eventually, But I.
Speaker 1: Do feel that way.
Speaker 10: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Every time I do something big, like all my family
Speaker 3: gets together and celebrates it and watches it, I just
Speaker 3: feel like I don't.
Speaker 10: I would feel ridiculous. I'd be like, what did.
Speaker 1: I I didn't earn this? Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't work for this, I didn't write for this,
Speaker 3: or I didn't I didn't work really hard. And but
Speaker 3: I do think I've changed my stands on on weddings
Speaker 3: and I do think women should invest in them a lot,
Speaker 3: and like spend a pretty time to have the best
Speaker 3: day of your life because it it is the closest
Speaker 3: you'll ever get to feeling like a famous person, and.
Speaker 1: You're like not a famous person, the bride.
Speaker 3: You are in being engaged, like even the lead up,
Speaker 3: Like I think, be engaged as long as you can,
Speaker 3: because people, if you're someone who seeks attention from strangers pregnancy,
Speaker 3: belly in saying fiance and people going, you're engaged, like
Speaker 3: no one cares once you're married, No one gives a
Speaker 3: fuck about hearing about your life. But an engagement, you
Speaker 3: get so much attention. And then like your wedding, like
Speaker 3: everyone comes together that loves you and says and cries
Speaker 3: about you, and it becomes more than about like this union,
Speaker 3: people start to just like it almost becomes like eulogizing.
Speaker 10: Like the next time people will do this is at.
Speaker 3: Your funerals, So enjoy this moment.
Speaker 1: And then that's why people have kids.
Speaker 3: I think that's the reason people have kids quickly after
Speaker 3: they get married, because there's such a build up. They
Speaker 3: have such a purpose. They're planning this wedding, they're trying
Speaker 3: to get married. Everything's building, and then if there's yes,
Speaker 3: and then there's nothing. They come back from the honeymoon
Speaker 3: and ever no one cares, and it's I'm just here
Speaker 3: with you. There's nothing to plan. And if here's just
Speaker 3: this guy that's kind of the same guy that before
Speaker 3: we got engaged that I was just kind of like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, and now it's forever, and so
Speaker 3: it's like, what what do I do next?
Speaker 2: Well, I have engagement, like you could like on Instagram,
Speaker 2: like people get so hyped and no matter who, whatever
Speaker 2: the thing that the person is engaged to, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: did we all see the picture? Like why are we
Speaker 2: excited about this? Anyone could have locked this guy down
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 3: So it's not that impressive to get engaged in merrit
Speaker 3: And I used to always feel like a failure that
Speaker 3: I didn't have a boyfriend or I didn't I'm not
Speaker 3: getting proposed to. And I'm like, because I think I'm
Speaker 3: kind of picky, maybe like it's I think I could
Speaker 3: probably have a boyfriend if I want to. Like when
Speaker 3: I look back, I used to be like you're such
Speaker 3: a failure that you can't get a guy, or I
Speaker 3: didn't really I look back at and so if I
Speaker 3: just think if girls are listening, being like I've been
Speaker 3: single for a while. I just gave advice recently to
Speaker 3: someone that was feeling bad about like I haven't I've
Speaker 3: never had a boyfriend and I'm so and so years old,
Speaker 3: and it was like, you could have anyone, can It's
Speaker 3: not that hard. You just have standards and maybe you've
Speaker 3: been more piggy, or maybe you just don't want one
Speaker 3: and you're secretly I think. I I think, until like
Speaker 3: very recently, I just fell into that archetype of like
Speaker 3: women want to be in committed relationships and they're always
Speaker 3: wanting it and the guy doesn't and I'm sad, and
Speaker 3: like my comedy fell into that, Like I was always
Speaker 3: just this like kind of scorned woman that can't get
Speaker 3: a guy, and then I finally get a guy who's like,
Speaker 3: let's do this, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1: God no, and I'm like danger. It was me all along.
Speaker 10: I was seeking guys like that.
Speaker 3: And I like to tell the story where I'm the victim,
Speaker 3: but I really I was the one that was scared
Speaker 3: of commitment. I was the chandler bing yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it was totally wherever you go, you are right.
Speaker 2: I also think, like you like to work really hard
Speaker 2: for things, and I think what we've learned, you know,
Speaker 2: in the ten years doing this show, is that the
Speaker 2: harder you work as a woman, a heterosexual woman in
Speaker 2: a relationship, the more it choose men away. Like work less,
Speaker 2: the harder, because don't because when you work hard, that
Speaker 2: means the man has to work hard to show up
Speaker 2: for you, and that's not good. You're creating more of
Speaker 2: a challenge for the men with the with the way
Speaker 2: that you just are, you were so right, it's how
Speaker 2: I am. I'm like, I'm like, if I could just
Speaker 2: be a little bit better, I mean, to just achieve
Speaker 2: this one more thing, be be this smarter, get my
Speaker 2: hair done this way, and go No, you're actually distancing
Speaker 2: yourself even more. You're you're creating a smaller pool. My
Speaker 2: therapist also yes, and of this, but I I came
Speaker 2: to the conclusion by myself and then I present I like,
Speaker 2: I present you know power points in therapy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you try hard, this is what I learned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she prepares she goes, you're.
Speaker 2: The only one who shows up and does their homework
Speaker 2: in therapy, Like, well, I'm paying for it, and it's
Speaker 2: only at least we gave homework, Like what am I
Speaker 2: supposed to do? And you're like I just think about
Speaker 2: it and just a little bit revisit next week.
Speaker 10: And I'm like, we're not getting anywhere.
Speaker 1: Give me a fucking assignment.
Speaker 2: I asked her when I when I first started with her,
Speaker 2: I said, I'm someone who really does well in like
Speaker 2: a school setting. So I was like, can you give
Speaker 2: me an assignment every week so that I can make
Speaker 2: sure that I'm actively working on what I showed up
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to start asking for that because I'm
Speaker 3: so just stalling out in therapy.
Speaker 6: I'm talking well, I feel like therapist too, Like I
Speaker 6: took a break from therapy. I was overdoing it and
Speaker 6: I was like, all right, I'm done, and I took
Speaker 6: two years off.
Speaker 1: Now I got to get back into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I get I dip it in and
Speaker 3: out too. But you're so right about like the working
Speaker 3: so hard, because it's true. I like I've worked hard
Speaker 3: in school and then at my career and then getting
Speaker 3: a boyfriend, like something that's had eluded me.
Speaker 10: It's like, why wouldn't I put the work in?
Speaker 3: And then you know, I was really into this book
Speaker 3: that Whitney Cummings recommended to me was getting to I
Speaker 3: do right, And then that whole gist of that book
Speaker 3: is like stop trying, like just act like you don't give.
Speaker 10: A shit and don't and don't fuck them.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, that's the tough part.
Speaker 3: That's the tough part, which them come and you're around
Speaker 3: you or like in the same ruins.
Speaker 6: Yeah, trying is resisting in that way, right.
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's like it was just that was a
Speaker 3: big eye opener to me. And it's so and it's
Speaker 3: so hard to fake that and to like not text
Speaker 3: back or like not be the first to text to it's.
Speaker 1: Do it now. Still, it's a lot of mental gymnastics,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 3: And again, but it is that book helped because it
Speaker 3: was like giving an assignment it was trying, because it
Speaker 3: was like it gave a rule book on how not
Speaker 3: to try. It's just like what I needed because I
Speaker 3: just can't be just naturally cool who the.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not. I'm never gonna be and yes, and
Speaker 1: I'm so thirsty, thirsty to see a ghost. That's why
Speaker 1: I've never I've probably never seen it.
Speaker 10: My god, you want to see a ghost.
Speaker 6: I'm not to talk to them. I'm trying to train
Speaker 6: and be able to talk to goost to the psychic medium.
Speaker 3: Oh cool, you can train to do I guess you can,
Speaker 3: because it's there you just need to tap into exactly.
Speaker 6: There's Arthur Finlay College in England that six week programs. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and you can do aline courses.
Speaker 1: But like I see this, I'm like, I'm really thirsty
Speaker 1: for aliens too, Like I just.
Speaker 6: Want I'm like, why isn't this happening? And then I'm like,
Speaker 6: this is because I want it too bad.
Speaker 3: You needed getting to I do for ghosts, but don't
Speaker 3: fuck them. No, I know, yeah, but I'm glad to ghost.
Speaker 3: I was so scared of ghosts as a kid and
Speaker 3: aliens that I think I made an agreement with myself,
Speaker 3: like they don't exist, because if they do, you're fucked.
Speaker 3: Like every I have to stay alone in hotel rooms
Speaker 3: every weekend, like you know, all the time.
Speaker 10: I would be so scared all the time.
Speaker 3: So I've convinced myself now I know they exist because
Speaker 3: Tyler Henry every single episode literally the only he's been
Speaker 3: the only thing that has convinced me there's an afterlife.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe until him. Yeah, really I liked it.
Speaker 3: I mean I believed in like this. Obviously, this isn't
Speaker 3: random how this all happens. Something created it. But I
Speaker 3: didn't believe in an afterlife and like spirits and realms
Speaker 3: until Tyler Henry. Which is so funny that a Netflix
Speaker 3: show for this guy, you know, but it's he's just
Speaker 3: so legit to me, and I just know now that
Speaker 3: it's like I'm grateful it's something that I can't see
Speaker 3: and ghosts don't want to talk to me because I'll
Speaker 3: bear an old man gear, like sitting on the edge
Speaker 3: of my bed looking at me in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night.
Speaker 1: You want to see that. You want to watch the.
Speaker 3: Face and then look up and go like you want
Speaker 3: to be like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, there's this thing like whenever I
Speaker 1: go to a haunted house, I get like really horny.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's I don't know, I'm just like, I'm just it's.
Speaker 6: Not a horny thing, but like meaning like I just
Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: Drawn to the afterlife. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think it's so cool pursue it. I love like trying,
Speaker 3: like that you are going to a school to learn
Speaker 3: how to do this new thing.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird and like weird and magical and powerful.
Speaker 3: Well I like that, like later in life you can
Speaker 3: get into stuff that you've probably always been into but
Speaker 3: it kind of been maybe ashamed that.
Speaker 10: You were into it, orally just didn't know how to
Speaker 10: get into it. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I've always wanted to be a singer, like
Speaker 3: a pop star.
Speaker 10: That's always what I wanted to do my whole life,
Speaker 10: and like was not good at singing or anything.
Speaker 3: And then I just like started taking singing lessons and
Speaker 3: I'm like and spending all my money. I like train
Speaker 3: every I train like I'm doing stand up comedy, like
Speaker 3: I mean voice lessons like two hours a week, and
Speaker 3: then I train outside of that, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna even though I suck still and it's so
Speaker 3: fucking hard, and it's like it's not it's I look
Speaker 3: at it as like, oh, stand up didn't come fucking naturally, right,
Speaker 3: I had a knack for it, sure, but no one
Speaker 3: was like excited about I wasn't no one's good right
Speaker 3: away at things like so few people are just talented
Speaker 3: out of the game, even Beyonce. Like there's this book
Speaker 3: that I love called The Talent Code, and it's about
Speaker 3: how it even talks about Beyonce it and how we
Speaker 3: all look at her. It's just like she's just pure
Speaker 3: talent and like she didn't have a childhood. She see
Speaker 3: she she was like a Jackson five child in terms
Speaker 3: of how much she worked. She got those ten thousand
Speaker 3: hours in before she was twelve, So we can't don't
Speaker 3: think she just came out singing and dancing like that.
Speaker 3: Like obviously she has some you know, she was born
Speaker 3: with like good vocals and she has a kid, But
Speaker 3: she'd be she would not be Beyonce unless you put
Speaker 3: that work in.
Speaker 1: It is a total thing.
Speaker 3: That's like you gotta put in the work if you
Speaker 3: want to get things and.
Speaker 1: Can be whatever you want, like you can, you just
Speaker 1: gotta have to work.
Speaker 6: Then that's that's where people fail because it's like, well
Speaker 6: it's because you didn't put in the work, not because
Speaker 6: you're not. You didn't, you know, especially twenty three, whereas
Speaker 6: it's so inclusive.
Speaker 2: Now you really can be anything you want. I would
Speaker 2: say maybe twenty years ago you couldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you literally can't.
Speaker 3: You but you have to work. And I just thought
Speaker 3: as a kid that you were either born with an earth.
Speaker 5: What's my gift? Do I have one?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: They kind of treat you like that, Like they I
Speaker 3: remember when you pick a musical instrument, they like make
Speaker 3: you play each of them and they kind of just
Speaker 3: watch you just like hold a clarinet. They're like, not
Speaker 3: your thing, and they're like, well, this was my dream
Speaker 3: until this guy.
Speaker 1: They did a casting couch.
Speaker 10: I wish they made you.
Speaker 1: I toally did.
Speaker 10: I had a violin on my own.
Speaker 2: Really that made us like I tried flu and I
Speaker 2: tried violin, and then I was like violin is for
Speaker 2: me to hold the instrument.
Speaker 3: They went around to stations and like the instructor was
Speaker 3: kind of like, no, I don't see this far. And
Speaker 3: then they were like you're a saxophone and so I
Speaker 3: was like Bill clintoning for a year.
Speaker 10: I was terrible at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That might have changed it
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always wanted to play sax because of Lisa.
Speaker 2: That's so true. That's so that did make it cool.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just got discourage so much early on
Speaker 3: by people just being like, you don't have it like
Speaker 3: this this it thing. I've never had it about fucking
Speaker 3: any nothing's ever come naturally to me. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 3: why stand Up's good is because you can't start till
Speaker 3: you're an adult. No one's like you got it. Like,
Speaker 3: that's why I kind of like stamp, I've just figured
Speaker 3: this out as like if you're a singer or an actress,
Speaker 3: when you get to be eighteen. Sorry, these kids have
Speaker 3: been doing it since. If you start at eighteen, you're
Speaker 3: late to the game. But stand up, if you started eighteen,
Speaker 3: you're a baby Budy. Yeah, no one starts Matt.
Speaker 10: I started eighteen.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that I stumbled into it and just
Speaker 3: happened to start that young because you've such an advanced
Speaker 3: because it's gonna take ten years, because everything takes that
Speaker 3: long in the arts to get really good at it.
Speaker 6: And it's one of those it's one of the best
Speaker 6: examples of the effort you put in. Is that what
Speaker 6: you get back like you can't like, if you work hard,
Speaker 6: you're going to get good guaranteed it's working.
Speaker 3: It's exactly. It's the same as going to the gym
Speaker 3: is doing stand up. It's like the amount of time
Speaker 3: you take off, you get soft and you but you
Speaker 3: but you have muscle memory, you can get it back.
Speaker 3: It's like it's the perfect analogy. Yeah, for a bunch
Speaker 3: of people who don't go to the gym.
Speaker 1: What's the longest you've ever gone without doing stand up
Speaker 1: since you started?
Speaker 10: I mean COVID, which was so nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like that was I loved it because it
Speaker 3: was easy to not go not to stand up because
Speaker 3: no one else is doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what keeps me doing it.
Speaker 3: Okay, so because other people are doing it, Krinna, I
Speaker 3: can't let other people get better when I'm sitting on
Speaker 3: my arm.
Speaker 2: I've lost sleep over this because I have the same thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is perfect. The whole world shut down.
Speaker 2: I could finally take a break. I'm fucking eating carnival
Speaker 2: food in my living room. But then I realized that
Speaker 2: so many people got TikTok famous range men, and now
Speaker 2: he's like, beat myself up. I was like, people were
Speaker 2: working videos. You should have been on TikTok. You could
Speaker 2: have been TikTok famous. Yeah, absolutely ridiculous. And the one
Speaker 2: time you took a break, you didn't deserve it, and
Speaker 2: you fucked it up, and you're and your fear of
Speaker 2: stopping and having other people get ahead of you was realized.
Speaker 1: And it's all over. It started again. It's not at all,
Speaker 1: but you're so, But you're right.
Speaker 3: I had the same moment of like, oh, there was
Speaker 3: something to be doing.
Speaker 1: There was something to do.
Speaker 10: But what it taught me was that it's like.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 1: It was compulsive.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even enjoying it anymore because I was just saying,
Speaker 3: I have to get on stage because there's some other
Speaker 3: girl getting on stage tonight and she's gonna eclipse me.
Speaker 3: I wasn't worried about men. I never worry about men
Speaker 3: for so fucking reason. But there's some other young girl
Speaker 3: who's gonna take my spot in this world, and I
Speaker 3: gotta you know, I want her to be as good
Speaker 3: as possible, so good, I want her to go, but
Speaker 3: I got to keep up with her. Yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to compete against the best, but like, yeah, I'm always
Speaker 3: thinking about that, and that's what motivates me to ever
Speaker 3: go out and do stuff. But now I'm kind of like,
Speaker 3: let him catch up.
Speaker 10: You like, take a fucking break.
Speaker 3: You're old enough, you've done the work, like to take
Speaker 3: a night off, Like I can kind of do that now,
Speaker 3: but it's easier. That's why I live in Saint Louis
Speaker 3: is like I don't have to go out and do
Speaker 3: stand up every night because there's no stand.
Speaker 1: Up to do, so give me.
Speaker 10: I don't have to do podcasts every day.
Speaker 3: It's like if I live here, i am I'm compulsively
Speaker 3: saying yes to things because then otherwise I'm atrophying and
Speaker 3: these people are getting stronger and I'm getting weaker. And
Speaker 3: it just like so just the competitive nature of it.
Speaker 1: Does that affect Are you in a relationship? Does that effect?
Speaker 2: Does that affect your relationship? Like do you do you
Speaker 2: come up against that? Or is he in the industry?
Speaker 3: He is, he's kind of in the industries in radio
Speaker 3: and then he also as a TV producer. He's never
Speaker 3: had a problem with me like prioritizing doing stand up
Speaker 3: or spots, Like it's maybe a couple times it's been
Speaker 3: like you do it every single night, like and it's
Speaker 3: been like a little bit annoying, But no, he's always
Speaker 3: like kind of been inspired by my by my work ethic,
Speaker 3: which is great, Yeah, because I would be fucking annoyed
Speaker 3: if I dated someone that had to be out every
Speaker 3: night doing something me too, and that they didn't even enjoy,
Speaker 3: like a lot of times are complaining about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now I'm at a place where I like enjoy it,
Speaker 3: and I there are sometimes where it's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I said, I do this said, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to go. But I it used to be I hated
Speaker 3: every single moment and now it's like I like it
Speaker 3: again because but it's it's tough because anything you enjoy,
Speaker 3: once you monetize it, it starts to like it's it's
Speaker 3: just when people are pit Like I liked when I
Speaker 3: was going to clubs and it was like people werelways
Speaker 3: like these people aren't here to see me. I'm like
Speaker 3: good wing them over the bar is low anything. And
Speaker 3: now they're like they've watched all my clips of my
Speaker 3: best moments and they're showing up expecting like this was
Speaker 3: nothing like her roast compilations on YouTube, or like she's
Speaker 3: talking about suicide or you know whatever it is.
Speaker 10: I'm like dealing with that day.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. You did say something really dark at
Speaker 1: the improv recently and I loved it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I plan on killing myself some day,
Speaker 4: as I think was the bit that I don't think
Speaker 4: there's anything wrong about saying that, Like I I don't
Speaker 4: want to die of like a horrible disease, so I'll
Speaker 4: probably get one and then like kill myself because of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just suicide.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll get my niece to cyber bully me.
Speaker 10: You'll be assisted.
Speaker 1: No, I call me a fat gun on Facebook.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I'm talking a lot about that kind of
Speaker 3: stuff on stage, just stuff that uh yeah, I because
Speaker 3: you're I'm always looking for like what's the next thing that,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I've said everything, and it's like
Speaker 3: kind of like overshare. All you do is talk about
Speaker 3: your pussy and anal sex and stuff, and it's like
Speaker 3: I never talked about those things. As you guys know,
Speaker 3: I'm like a preaching to the choir. We're not talking about
Speaker 3: them because we're like, this will be titilating. People will
Speaker 3: really think I'm special. And I'm gonna challenge people and
Speaker 3: they're gonna be offended and I'm gonna shock in awe
Speaker 3: that like when people seem to characterize female comics, we
Speaker 3: talk about sex like we've we've found some shortcut and
Speaker 3: like it's just like a crutch, but it's just like
Speaker 3: what we're interested in. Yeah, And I was saying to
Speaker 3: you guys before we started the show, like I'm just
Speaker 3: like less interested in sex in general now, and so
Speaker 3: I don't talk about it.
Speaker 10: On stage as much.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 2: I do feel like people like are like I feel
Speaker 2: like that's like people criticize female comedia for talking about
Speaker 2: sex so much, but then it's like, well, we talk
Speaker 2: about it also because it works and because it's what
Speaker 2: you like to hear it, and we can tell that
Speaker 2: by the immediate laughter.
Speaker 1: And that's a really good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I try talking about other things and
Speaker 2: guess I want to hear it. I have a great
Speaker 2: bit about catch and release fishing that I'm excited about.
Speaker 10: No one else is uns it's a great time of
Speaker 10: dating or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, you're You're so right.
Speaker 3: I feel like it does in that way, it is
Speaker 3: more shocking, and so it does get a better response
Speaker 3: when we are willing to talk about this stuff. And sorry,
Speaker 3: women don't aren't the reason that it's interesting is women
Speaker 3: don't talk about sex that much. It seems like now
Speaker 3: everyone does because there's been this like you know, a
Speaker 3: movement renaissance. Yeah, like women openly talking about it. But
Speaker 3: it's interesting because they didn't forever and they still don't.
Speaker 3: Girls still go into sex and not knowing what the
Speaker 3: fuck to do. They're still getting wasted because they're so
Speaker 3: nervous about it. They don't know what to expect in there.
Speaker 3: That's why I fucking talk about it because when I
Speaker 3: was in high school college, I didn't know what was
Speaker 3: gonna happen. Like I was so scared of sex, and
Speaker 3: I'd like to talk about things I'm scared of and
Speaker 3: like I'm really just talking to like a younger version
Speaker 3: of me, Like here's a deal, girl, it's not that bad,
Speaker 3: and actually, here's a shortcut to like enjoying this thing,
Speaker 3: and like this is what it's gonna look like in there,
Speaker 3: Like I'm drawn to that.
Speaker 1: Stuff more so. But yeah, and so because I think.
Speaker 2: That's why part of the reason my theory that men
Speaker 2: don't like it is because we are talking about it
Speaker 2: so openly and we're now sharing tips. So it's the
Speaker 2: same as like Uh, an employer doesn't like you talking
Speaker 2: about how much you're getting paid, because then you then
Speaker 2: you guys can gang up, you can unionize, and you
Speaker 2: can and you can revolt against the person that's been
Speaker 2: holding you down the whole time.
Speaker 1: You're oppressor. How are depending? So I think that's exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening.
Speaker 10: I'm never going to talk about how much.
Speaker 1: Ike A paid is.
Speaker 2: Now sexually we know what we deserve, what what we
Speaker 2: should get, and so now men have to deliver on
Speaker 2: that and they don't like that.
Speaker 3: A really good point and it's but it's it works
Speaker 3: so well on me when guys say it's so easy,
Speaker 3: like what you're doing, or just like when there's just
Speaker 3: that just belittling you of like, oh, I wish I
Speaker 3: could talk about that, but I can't because I'm a
Speaker 3: guy like you get away with talking about that, like
Speaker 3: just just making it seem like I don't like any
Speaker 3: in uh, what's the word I'm looking for criticism. I
Speaker 3: don't like any kind of like implication that I'm taking
Speaker 3: the easy way out, that I'm doing the easy thing,
Speaker 3: that clean comedy is so much you're so much smarter
Speaker 3: be able to do clean comedy it's like, no, I.
Speaker 1: Could, that's just not who you are.
Speaker 3: Is done that tonight sual five times? You think they
Speaker 3: let me talk about way pussy on the tonight. I
Speaker 3: can do clean material. I don't want to. It's not
Speaker 3: interesting to me. And but like lately, I've just my
Speaker 3: hormones changed. I went through like a summer. I didn't
Speaker 3: mass rate for like three months, like I wasn't. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to funk at all. Like I went I
Speaker 3: was zero percent into sex, like well literally asexual.
Speaker 10: I don't know, but I started my hormones.
Speaker 3: I think I just got down the supplement again and
Speaker 3: I'm like, arning wait, what is so nice?
Speaker 1: I just said to my friend.
Speaker 3: I was like, New York is borning, and she was like,
Speaker 3: I think you're teared.
Speaker 1: Oh HGP.
Speaker 10: I think I think that's what it's called.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong about it, but it's some some
Speaker 3: supplement that I'm taking again and I'm treating my depress
Speaker 3: I think depression also played a part in it.
Speaker 10: But I just got it back and it felt like.
Speaker 1: But it's weird because when you lose it's like when you.
Speaker 3: Lose your appetite and you're like, I don't even you
Speaker 3: get sad because you're like, oh, I'm missing out on
Speaker 3: meals and stuff and I'm like feeling depleted nutritionally. But
Speaker 3: you're also like, but I don't crave something that I'm
Speaker 3: not craving like I was, like I remember liking sex,
Speaker 3: but I don't care that it's gone because I don't
Speaker 3: want it right now and because feel so sad and
Speaker 3: I would just pay to my boyfriend like like can
Speaker 3: you just like fuck me? And like do I have
Speaker 3: to participate?
Speaker 1: Like are you don't? Like yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 3: Can that make be hot to you in some way
Speaker 3: that if I'm just free use or something, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's actually very popular into that. I kind of
Speaker 1: like it. I know someone who's who engages in it.
Speaker 2: And like but the problem is it's like I feel
Speaker 2: like sometimes if you're not not of a certain age
Speaker 2: or I don't have a certain relationship with the person,
Speaker 2: it becomes very it can be very demeaning to women
Speaker 2: if you're not kind of like on the same page
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: That's my issue with it. You have to make sure talking.
Speaker 2: About a very specific scenario that I can't exactly but
Speaker 2: it just like bothered me, right, I don't know that
Speaker 2: like a twenty three year old girl and in her
Speaker 2: first serious relationship should really be engaging now in that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, even for it.
Speaker 3: You know, like like I'm not well enough to be
Speaker 3: free like all the time. You just stick it in
Speaker 3: at any time I feel like it's not gonna go
Speaker 3: yeah something, yeah, yeah, but it's I'm so glad it's back.
Speaker 10: I really thought I was, like, I feel like a
Speaker 10: woman when I'm doing Yeah, my horniness.
Speaker 6: Makes me feel like a feminine, divine, feminine, like, but
Speaker 6: I also use my like with the war going on,
Speaker 6: I get so it's so stressful and so sad and
Speaker 6: so awful. And I realized, like I just masturbate all
Speaker 6: day when I'm stressed.
Speaker 3: That's really interesting because I think maybe that is maybe
Speaker 3: it like that what has spurred me to like start
Speaker 3: masturbating more is like I just stress and distraction because it's.
Speaker 10: Like I'll order Uber Eats.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'll drik off, and then Uber Eat comes,
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'm ready to eat. Now I'm done eating?
Speaker 3: What Okay, time can I jerk off again? I'll time
Speaker 3: keep spinning plates, I'll.
Speaker 1: Tire my door dash to when I'm done, master, and then.
Speaker 3: There's sometimes like a vibe when he hands off the
Speaker 3: like like you can almost like does he know I
Speaker 3: just like jerked off like a fantasy.
Speaker 10: Where he bangs Like not that I'm.
Speaker 6: I can't imagine when it does to guys, but like
Speaker 6: when you watch too much of the same kind of
Speaker 6: porn and then you go to get a massage, you're
Speaker 6: like expecting him to touch your pussy and.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh wait, wrong, wrong world. Yes, I watched
Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, it fucks me up because I get
Speaker 1: really turned on during massages and I'll ask for a
Speaker 1: guy messuse Now I used to not. I used to
Speaker 1: like old on guy touched me, and then I got
Speaker 1: into massage porn and I was like only.
Speaker 10: Men, Yeah, I like only men just for the strength
Speaker 10: of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like I've had some like kind of just
Speaker 3: grace my hand, like when I'm just like laying and
Speaker 3: they just come by like a flaccid penis rubs over
Speaker 3: and you were like once, I can get it, but
Speaker 3: I think twice or more they're they know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But I know what you mean, like it is it
Speaker 1: is hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I had a friend who got her like
Speaker 3: butt whole finger while she was getting a massage, and
Speaker 3: she's like, this was so scary. It was she she's
Speaker 3: like such a badass too, and she's someone who's like
Speaker 3: I've seen her like fight people and like she's like
Speaker 3: scrappy and like stands up for like her friends.
Speaker 10: Like she's just someone like you don't fuck with.
Speaker 3: And it just shows you, like what, like how you
Speaker 3: think you would handle that situation. Like I could see
Speaker 3: her being like if before this happened, she would have
Speaker 3: been like fuck that you say something? She said, she
Speaker 3: totally froze. Yeah, she didn't know what the fuck to do.
Speaker 3: She let it happen, like and it didn't go on
Speaker 3: more than that was just like a one time little thing,
Speaker 3: but it completely did happen. She completely frozed, said nothing,
Speaker 3: let the massage go on. She's so ashamed of herself
Speaker 3: for not standing up. So it's like it was really
Speaker 3: a good example to me of like no one knows
Speaker 3: what they do if they get like people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: if someone you know puts a gun to your head.
Speaker 1: Like you just you can't answer that question, but you
Speaker 1: can counter a bear.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to go like you just don't know what
Speaker 3: you're fucking gonna do. But it turned out this is
Speaker 3: such a great ending to this. She didn't say anything,
Speaker 3: and I was like, please, you gotta call the place
Speaker 3: and tell them.
Speaker 10: She's like, I don't want to see him again. I
Speaker 10: don't want to have anything to do with it.
Speaker 3: Like I got it, you know, Like I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna push you to do that. But then
Speaker 3: she got a call from a lawyer that said, did
Speaker 3: you have a sexual assault that happened on this date?
Speaker 3: Because you are on the books and this other a
Speaker 3: client of mine issuing this guy, and you were on
Speaker 3: the same day and got a massage, did anything happen
Speaker 3: to you? And she was like, in fact, it did,
Speaker 3: And now she got a settlement from the place and
Speaker 3: is like got financially compensated.
Speaker 1: Whoa thank god.
Speaker 3: Yes when it all ended up being, you know, not good,
Speaker 3: but like it was just a yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Froze, I had that happen to me Ireland. I was
Speaker 1: in Ireland and I got a massage and the guy
Speaker 1: like started touching my vagina and I froze.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm froze, and then you're naked guy.
Speaker 3: But because I watched massage porn.
Speaker 6: I was also kind of wet and I but I
Speaker 6: didn't want it to happen, and I was like, that's uncomfortable,
Speaker 6: But that sucks because we talk about sexual assault assaults
Speaker 6: so often on guys we fucked, and we have for
Speaker 6: ten years. I told I already knew. I'm like, it's
Speaker 6: okay to get aroused. If you're getting a sexual assaulted,
Speaker 6: that's your body sometimes if it like men, if they
Speaker 6: get sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1: By another man, they'll have an erection and they have
Speaker 1: a lot of shame about that.
Speaker 6: Yes, but it's your body preparing, like all right, if
Speaker 6: we got to do this, just fucking.
Speaker 1: Comp and you get it over with.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I already knew not to feel it, so
Speaker 6: luckily I didn't feel any shame about it. I understood
Speaker 6: exactly what was happening as it was happening, which was.
Speaker 1: Weird because you feel like you're watching a movie that
Speaker 1: you're right. But I was like, yeah, wow, FROs oh,
Speaker 1: that's such an.
Speaker 3: Interesting thing, like the getting aroused while you're being molested.
Speaker 10: And I think that's like.
Speaker 3: Why I was just reading, because I talk about molestation
Speaker 3: on it like I do. A big chunk about it
Speaker 3: on stage and my boyfriend I've been quoting some statistic
Speaker 3: about like I was like, one in ten people have
Speaker 3: been lessed, and he's like, you should check that stat
Speaker 3: I was like, you're right, I should, like what am
Speaker 3: I saying?
Speaker 10: And it's like it's all so many people have been close.
Speaker 3: I think it's one in ten women during adolescents have
Speaker 3: had a sexual assault or some kind of weird instance,
Speaker 3: and then there's one in twenty guys.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking that number is.
Speaker 3: More because of the gay because it's usually a man,
Speaker 3: and so it's like, on top of being molested, you're
Speaker 3: also feeling like you're gay, which is another shame thing,
Speaker 3: and it's like it sucks so much. I really just
Speaker 3: want people to be able to like talk about having
Speaker 3: been molested, like the way people talk about you know,
Speaker 3: like oh my dad beat me when I was a kid.
Speaker 10: You know, it's still uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: It's still like something we all take seriously, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't like it's not record scratch at a party, Like
Speaker 3: you should be able to just say, like I gotta
Speaker 3: get buy a drunk driver driving once, Like it should
Speaker 3: be like that it's not your fault. You didn't ask
Speaker 3: for it. But for some reason, I think the reason
Speaker 3: pedophiles can continue doing what they're doing is because it's
Speaker 3: they know people will carry that shit to the grave
Speaker 3: most likely, and if people were empowered enough to go like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like just talk about it normally and we
Speaker 3: didn't all go like that was weird when he brought
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would prevent more. I think so.
Speaker 3: But it's easy for me to say I haven't been molested,
Speaker 3: but I like, I almost wish that I had have been,
Speaker 3: because I want to give an example of how not
Speaker 3: that I think I would be able to handle it.
Speaker 3: It's almost like how I want herpies just so I
Speaker 3: can be more open about it, to like give less.
Speaker 6: If you don't have it, ain't nobody hear you.
Speaker 10: I wants to hear that.
Speaker 1: But that's why I like Joe Liszt and talking about it.
Speaker 3: He was the first person I ever heard he was
Speaker 3: so cool about it. Oh, it was the it was
Speaker 3: It's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. And
Speaker 3: then Andy Haynes was really conversational about about having been molested,
Speaker 3: and I hope I'm not saying anything out of turn,
Speaker 3: but he said it on my podcast once so, but
Speaker 3: I thought that was the coolest thing because I never
Speaker 3: heard anyone do that, and it's like, of course we should.
Speaker 3: In the same way that like, women don't talk about
Speaker 3: having face worked done unless they're with their best girlfriends
Speaker 3: who like Shae the Stitches and have somebody ask and
Speaker 3: you have to.
Speaker 1: Own up to it. But like everyone lies about it.
Speaker 10: But women used to lie about having their hair dyed, like.
Speaker 3: That was like a thing that you would have to
Speaker 3: like they used to be really ashamed, like, no, this
Speaker 3: is my real hair color. And now we're all like,
Speaker 3: obviously I'm not blonde, right right right, we can maybe
Speaker 3: get there with face work. Yeah, that's true because it's
Speaker 3: face work.
Speaker 2: Though Kathy Griffins did, I feel like I made a
Speaker 2: lot of movement in that space.
Speaker 1: She's always been extreme, Jo Rivers always.
Speaker 3: I know, I always love when women do that, but
Speaker 3: I get why they don't. Like sometimes I get really mad,
Speaker 3: thank you. Sometimes I get really mad about like j
Speaker 3: Lo just tell us that you have surgery. It's not
Speaker 3: a crime that you've had surgery. You look amazing, got
Speaker 3: good surgeons, Like it's fine the damage.
Speaker 1: It does to pretend you looked perfect with no effort
Speaker 1: and no actual surgery and money.
Speaker 3: And then following all the things she tells us to do,
Speaker 3: and then you don't look like her and you just
Speaker 3: think God hates me.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the problem. I don't even care that
Speaker 1: they don't tell her.
Speaker 2: But it's like trying to sell, like sell me like
Speaker 2: a gummy, Like that's gonna do a whole work as
Speaker 2: a face.
Speaker 10: It's not gonna give it a nose.
Speaker 3: But I get why they don't because I was thinking
Speaker 3: about like Jennifer Gray, Like remember when she got a
Speaker 3: nose job. I always talk about her career because people
Speaker 3: were like, that's sad, Like you're sad. It's her talent
Speaker 3: wasn't in her nose. She was still as talented. She
Speaker 3: got no work after that because everyone was like, that's
Speaker 3: really embarrassing you did that. So that's why people like
Speaker 3: the names. But that's why a lot of celebrities can't
Speaker 3: say that they've had work done because everyone goes, that's sad,
Speaker 3: and like judges them.
Speaker 10: It's like such a shape.
Speaker 3: The Kardashians won't even fucking admit it, but we all
Speaker 3: know they have. But if they admitted it, we'd all
Speaker 3: go not sad, but if we speculate, we don't. It's
Speaker 3: there's something about the year's you don't like the way
Speaker 3: you look that's sad. When everyone's trying to look different,
Speaker 3: Why is it shameful?
Speaker 2: Also, go really slow like that's like the Lady Gaga approach,
Speaker 2: just like slowly your nose and you can want to tell.
Speaker 3: Photos and you're like interesting, I go, what do we
Speaker 3: think happened to her?
Speaker 1: Erosion? Wind is open?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like what we think it's crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a outlift and like probably a year
Speaker 3: or two.
Speaker 10: Hell yeah, I can't wait to do it. But it's
Speaker 10: like when do you find the time?
Speaker 3: Do you have to go away? You have to plan
Speaker 3: a bunch of posts during that time. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: want to like doc you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like that's a move.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be.
Speaker 1: Like it's to be effortlessly hot is always the goal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why people maybe why women don't say, like
Speaker 6: I do this because it's so so much work.
Speaker 1: It's so I don't know when these people fit it in.
Speaker 3: I don't know because they're all like they work like
Speaker 3: the Kelly Rippas and stuff like you guys are on
Speaker 3: TV every fucking day. How are you burning off your face?
Speaker 2: I'm not even that busy. I have a Bunyon and
Speaker 2: I was like, it's been ten years.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't be off my feet for this.
Speaker 10: I have bions on both and you can't.
Speaker 2: It's enough time and money to fix this, Bunyon.
Speaker 3: There's never going to be You're and there's no like
Speaker 3: Bunyan separators that are going to make your bones fews
Speaker 3: the back if they're fucked crin, We're done.
Speaker 10: It's because the goddamn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's my solidarity with the spice girl.
Speaker 6: I want to make sure we get you out of here,
Speaker 6: so we have to wrap. Okay, yes, but thank you
Speaker 6: so much? What where can we go?
Speaker 1: When do you want to promo?
Speaker 3: Please watch it. It's it's on Amazon, but it's on
Speaker 3: CW every Monday, and the premiere is this Monday, October sixteenth.
Speaker 3: I don't know when this is going to air, but
Speaker 3: it'll be on Amazon. And it's of season three of
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Speaker 1: I watched the show and I'm like, this show is
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Speaker 3: But like when I'm making it, I'm always like, oh
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Speaker 3: Like I don't ever want to watch myself, but this
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Speaker 3: And and then I'm on tour like all the time.
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Speaker 10: So yeah, Niki Glas dot com and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, thank you so much, NICKI for making the
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