Speaker 1: As a league fifteen to ten touchdown Chargers.
Speaker 2: What's Up? Guys?
Speaker 1: Welcome into a Monday night football edition of Chargers Weekly,
Speaker 1: as always, joined by Matt Muddy Smith. Chargers coming off
Speaker 1: a primetime win against the Chicago Bears thirty to thirteen,
Speaker 1: a comfortable win money, the first comfortable win I think
Speaker 1: since January first of this year, a game where as
Speaker 1: it started to play out, you just realized how much
Speaker 1: better the Chargers were talent wise than the Bears. It
Speaker 1: showed out from almost the beginning. And now I guess
Speaker 1: a bit of a fourth in the road moment three
Speaker 1: and four going up against a four and three Jets
Speaker 1: team on Monday Night football, it's almost like a mini
Speaker 1: playoff game here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that you know is we
Speaker 2: always talk about it, right tie breakers, you know, Tennessee
Speaker 2: and my Miami, and you can't afford to lose too many
Speaker 2: of those, you know. It's just so important that you
Speaker 2: try to win some of these, that if you end
Speaker 2: up nine to eight and the Jets end up nine
Speaker 2: and eight, that you get the tip of the cap.
Speaker 2: You know, Tennessee and these other teams, you've got to
Speaker 2: be able to build up some of that equity. So
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of what you're speaking to, right,
Speaker 2: is these Jets have managed to somehow figure out a way,
Speaker 2: especially this past week against the Giants. I mean, my goodness,
Speaker 2: they were dead to rights and Graham Gno just shanks
Speaker 2: a field goal and Zach Wilson decides to come alive
Speaker 2: for the final thirty seconds of regulation to tie.
Speaker 3: That was that the worst game of the year. That
Speaker 3: may have been the worst game of the year.
Speaker 2: What was it twenty how many punts? Twenty five four punts? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like the third most punts in the history of
Speaker 2: the NFL or there for like the last thirty years
Speaker 2: or something like that. So yeah, I mean, and that's
Speaker 2: you know I think, is well, we'll get into it,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but like that's the thing is their defense
Speaker 2: is really good. You know, their offense is not. So
Speaker 2: that's that's where you kind of say, Okay, can the
Speaker 2: defense keep this offense and check and keet a pretty
Speaker 2: darn good justin Herbert passing offense, get those seventeen twenty
Speaker 2: one points that you think will be enough to get
Speaker 2: the win over a team that has really and they
Speaker 2: not only have struggled to score, Chris, but like Nate
Speaker 2: Hackett and you know, coach Sala, like they don't even
Speaker 2: really want I shouldn't say they don't want to score,
Speaker 2: but like their number one priority on offense is take
Speaker 2: care of the football. We can win this thing with
Speaker 2: defense and special teams and Hope and Breesehall busts a
Speaker 2: long one. Just take care of the football, Zacht take sacks,
Speaker 2: don't fumble, don't throw interceptions, and we'll figure this thing
Speaker 2: out in the final five minutes.
Speaker 1: Buddy, have you ever done those Twitter spaces where you
Speaker 1: just like you got a group of people and they're
Speaker 1: just talking, And so I did one yesterday with this
Speaker 1: Jets podcast as Jets cast shout out to those guys.
Speaker 1: It felt like it was like a New York talk
Speaker 1: radio show where like, you know, they're.
Speaker 3: Just asking questions about Er.
Speaker 1: They were all, hey, you know what what I think?
Speaker 1: My key takeaway after that was like the Jets fans
Speaker 1: and Chargers fans have a lot more in common than
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 3: You know, they're just like what's going on.
Speaker 1: They're kind of a you know, a middling record at
Speaker 1: this point, hoping to kind of hang on for a
Speaker 1: wild card spot and a lot of questions about Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert and the secondary and can Zach Wilson exploit this
Speaker 1: Chargers secondary. So I found it like, actually really cool.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should do that with with Chargers
Speaker 1: fans at some point, maybe during the season, just get
Speaker 1: on and answer questions, but before we really dig into
Speaker 1: the Jets anything from that Chicago game that you learned
Speaker 1: about this team, to me, it just felt like it
Speaker 1: was a team.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to take care of.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert played well, Austin Eckler through the we were
Speaker 1: kind of waiting for that seven for ninety four and
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and the defense, save for the first play
Speaker 1: of the game, took care of business, kept the running
Speaker 1: game of check and kept the rookie Tyson Baje at bay.
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a lot to take away, you know, Chris,
Speaker 2: I do you know we're talking all these social media
Speaker 2: outlets now, you know, after every game, I like to
Speaker 2: hop on Instagram Live and just hang out for what
Speaker 2: I do is one beer. You know, however long it
Speaker 2: takes me to finish a beer or whatever I might
Speaker 2: have with me at the time, you know, maybe it's
Speaker 2: a drink after this one Monday night. You know, if
Speaker 2: the hotel bar is open, you know, if they'll serve
Speaker 2: me a nice double whiskey or something, that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2: But kind of what And I bring it up because
Speaker 2: there was a Raider fan that hopped in there and
Speaker 2: started talking a lot of trash, and I said, why
Speaker 2: are you here, you know, talking about the Chargers beating
Speaker 2: the crappy Bears team when the Bears team just beat
Speaker 2: the Raiders basically thirty to six. So I bring that
Speaker 2: up not to say, hey, I really rubbed that guy's
Speaker 2: face and it no, but like, this is a team
Speaker 2: that just knocked off a rate squad and basically got
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels fired, that had rushed for over one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty yards and four straight games and was one
Speaker 2: of the best rushing teams last year. And granted a
Speaker 2: lot of that was justin fields, but these last you know,
Speaker 2: nearly two full games, the Vikings and Bears game were
Speaker 2: with Tyson Bagent and they're still running the ball for
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five yards and the Chargers knocked
Speaker 2: that out. They were like, okay, you know, we talked
Speaker 2: about them taking away the right hand take it away
Speaker 2: and they finally took it away. Well, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: beat us on the ground, so you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: beat us through the air. And by the way, Mikey's
Speaker 2: gonna be playing a ton of press on DJ Moore
Speaker 2: and and we're gonna shade that way. And so I
Speaker 2: think what you saw was, you know, protection was shaded
Speaker 2: in the direction of DJ Moore. You know, he only
Speaker 2: had four receptions for fifty five yards. We'll take that
Speaker 2: all day. And what else? So then what did you see?
Speaker 2: Cole Comet ten catches. That's fine, you want cole Comet
Speaker 2: to knock you out instead of Deontay Foreman and DJ Moore.
Speaker 2: That's what we were looking for. So that I loved.
Speaker 2: I think it was a reminder that when you have
Speaker 2: a healthy Joey Bosa, a healthy Khalil Mack and now
Speaker 2: this rookie, you know, two lee two polo two, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a struggle to run, especially if you're trying
Speaker 2: to run wide and you're trying to stretch it. These
Speaker 2: guys set the edge and they can do some damage
Speaker 2: out there. And I think that's that's certainly my defensive takeaway.
Speaker 2: You've mentioned it. The explosive on the first play was
Speaker 2: like moue, here we go again. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 2: were like, Okay, that's not gonna happen again. That's a
Speaker 2: mis cue. We'll get it fixed. They did, And I
Speaker 2: think you saw really a complete performance. You know, Derwin's
Speaker 2: first interception, the defensive line getting after Bagent, you know,
Speaker 2: the other interception from Assante, Like, it was a really
Speaker 2: complete game. And that was defensively, And I know we
Speaker 2: can get into the offense as well, but I'll just
Speaker 2: kind of pause there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, holding this Bears running attack is just
Speaker 1: two point nine yard arts per Carrie and Deontay Forman
Speaker 1: doesn't even get ten carries in the game. So the
Speaker 1: running the run d all year money has been pretty good,
Speaker 1: pretty stout, and they're gonna have to be stout against
Speaker 1: Brice Hall and company on Monday.
Speaker 3: We'll get into but.
Speaker 1: You know, offensively, you know, I mentioned Austin. I think
Speaker 1: I just think the toughness of Joshua Palmer to come
Speaker 1: back in that football game, not having a guy like
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett.
Speaker 3: Keenan doing this thing.
Speaker 1: It felt like Justin needed that game to kind of
Speaker 1: clear the deck and kind of remind people who he is,
Speaker 1: and let's face it, it's gonna be a different animal in
Speaker 1: terms of pressure, the pressure coming in Justin's lap on
Speaker 1: Monday night. With that Jets defensive line, they can rotate
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys in. You know, players are really
Speaker 1: all three levels. But I thought Justin held up well
Speaker 1: and I think you're starting to see, you know, just
Speaker 1: this off It's take shape a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put too much stock in a
Speaker 1: win against this Bear's team because you know, you said
Speaker 1: it like, I feel like maybe I had a false
Speaker 1: sense of who they were based on what happened the
Speaker 1: week before and what they did to the Raiders and
Speaker 1: you know who Tyson Bage it was.
Speaker 3: I really did.
Speaker 1: I thought that Beijit actually played halfway decent. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think that he was kind of the reason
Speaker 1: they lost that game. You know, their defense just they
Speaker 1: couldn't generate pressure all evening. And you know that's another thing.
Speaker 1: The offensive line held up. Justin didn't get.
Speaker 2: Sacked, right, So you know, I was just pulling up
Speaker 2: the depth chart for the for the Jets just to
Speaker 2: make sure I have them when we get into that.
Speaker 2: But that's that's something they had to do right. The
Speaker 2: Bears struggled to pass to pass rush, and they struggled
Speaker 2: to pass protect take advantage of their weaknesses, and they did.
Speaker 2: Justin didn't get sacked. He absolutely tore them up in
Speaker 2: the first half. And you know, you had what I
Speaker 2: think sixteen straight completions or something like that. So and
Speaker 2: by the way, I forgot it. Sante didn't have that interception.
Speaker 2: It hit the ground. They overruled it on that fourth down,
Speaker 2: but it didn't matter. What's turnover run down is joh
Speaker 2: sir first career interception. I want to make sure job
Speaker 2: I acknowledge it was a jaw interception, but offensively didn't
Speaker 2: take a sack, didn't throw a pick because his team
Speaker 2: isn't good at rushing the passer, so take advantage of that.
Speaker 2: You know they are good against the run. I do
Speaker 2: think a lot of that though is And we saw
Speaker 2: that transaction this week. They didn't trade for a blocking
Speaker 2: tight end, but they cut one and they elevated one.
Speaker 2: And we know Nick Vinette, he's got some salt in
Speaker 2: him now. He's a little bit of a salty dude,
Speaker 2: and we like that. You know, you're gonna need a
Speaker 2: little bit of that in the run game, and they're
Speaker 2: gonna give him a crack at trying to get this
Speaker 2: thing going and getting that blocking tight end to get
Speaker 2: the extra hat on a hat, because that's been a
Speaker 2: big issue that designed rushes weren't right and second half
Speaker 2: it just it's they got to figure it out, because
Speaker 2: that's what they're trying to do, is they should. You know,
Speaker 2: you're up twenty four to seven, and you want to
Speaker 2: milk that lead, and they're trying to do it by
Speaker 2: running the football, and you'd hate that, they would, you know,
Speaker 2: have to scrap them, you know, to scrap the running
Speaker 2: game and just do what you do best and keep
Speaker 2: throwing it. That's not how you want to operate. So
Speaker 2: I think they're going to continue to do that, you know,
Speaker 2: and look for Austin to be under two yards per
Speaker 2: carry is just you've got to figure that out, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously Josh Kelly had the explosive the week
Speaker 2: before against the Chiefs for forty nine yards. I don't know,
Speaker 2: if you just try to get him more carries, maybe
Speaker 2: put both of them out there at the same time.
Speaker 2: So Austin's a threat in the pass game and Josh's
Speaker 2: in the backfield. But that's something they certainly have to
Speaker 2: figure out. And then, obviously something that we've been talking
Speaker 2: about since Week two when he didn't have much action
Speaker 2: in week one, the fact that you finally got q involved,
Speaker 2: that you finally six targets, five catches, fifty yards a
Speaker 2: DPI defensive pass interference to get a first down on
Speaker 2: a scoring drive. Finally, and I credit Justin and coach
Speaker 2: more for doing getting some plays that Quinton's good at,
Speaker 2: you know, get those quick hitters so he can get
Speaker 2: some yack, get the back shoulder throws. Let him use
Speaker 2: that big frame of his to turn around and shield
Speaker 2: his defender and catch some balls. And so I'm hopeful
Speaker 2: that they don't try it, you know, they don't continue
Speaker 2: to try to make him look like Mike Williams, because
Speaker 2: he's not like the one target he had that he
Speaker 2: did that he didn't, you know, catch, he was six targets,
Speaker 2: five catches, was the one in the end zone, the
Speaker 2: Mike Williams special, you know, go up and you know,
Speaker 2: eat the bowl of doritos off the defensive back's helmet.
Speaker 2: So and he went up with one hand again, and
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on there, but played his strengths.
Speaker 2: He's got strengths. You know, they're quick hitters, he's breaking tackles,
Speaker 2: he's getting some yack, and he's shown to be pretty
Speaker 2: darn good at those backed shoulder throws to pick up
Speaker 2: some first down. So I thought, really good opportunity from
Speaker 2: the for the offense to get him involved and get
Speaker 2: him some confidence going into this one.
Speaker 3: No doubt.
Speaker 1: And you know Parum two quickly touched on him four
Speaker 1: for forty three in the touchdown huge in Gerald's absence
Speaker 1: was huge.
Speaker 3: The thing about Quintin.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like spectacle killer, right, but you know, five
Speaker 1: for fifty it's six targets. It just felt like progress,
Speaker 1: and I think it's necessary, especially going into this game
Speaker 1: against the Jets when he got Sauce Gardner on one side,
Speaker 1: who I imagine is gonna be on number thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Justin's gonna have to look other places. And Joshua Palmer
Speaker 1: maybe that guy he didn't practice again with that knee
Speaker 1: as we take this on Thursday, but you know, maybe
Speaker 1: this is another spot for Q to get further involved.
Speaker 3: In the offense.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I it was, you know, seeing those
Speaker 1: plays they felt very routine. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: just the fact that justin like you said, looking his
Speaker 1: way and making that effort to get him involved in
Speaker 1: the offense. Who knows money what happens on Monday night,
Speaker 1: because I think he may get some more targets.
Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna have to, Tria, I think you said it.
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna put Sauce on Keenan. I'm guessing,
Speaker 2: you know. I don't. I don't think I would assume
Speaker 2: they're gonna play a lot more Nickel and I don't soon.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I really don't know what
Speaker 2: they'll do, if they'll put Michael Carter on them and
Speaker 2: and Sauscle just kind of play on the left side,
Speaker 2: or how they want to do that. If they just
Speaker 2: want to say, hey, Keenan's yours, go get them, that
Speaker 2: would probably be my guess. And I think the thing
Speaker 2: with Q is what we talked about, right quick, yeah,
Speaker 2: quick slants. You know, let them just get in there, Steve,
Speaker 2: you can get leverage, get them the ball and go.
Speaker 2: Because that pass rush, you know, I was looking off
Speaker 2: camera because I was trying to get an eye on it. Man,
Speaker 2: it is nasty. It's it's Quinn Williams, It's Quentin Jefferson,
Speaker 2: it's Jermaine Johnson. I mean, these dudes, they they roll
Speaker 2: them through, and it's it's it's tough, man, it's a
Speaker 2: tough front. Quinn is as disruptive as anyone in the league,
Speaker 2: you know, not named Chris Jones and Aaron Donald. And
Speaker 2: and he's he might be in Chris Jones territory. Now
Speaker 2: you know that may be how how good he's now gotten,
Speaker 2: so that ball is going to have to come out
Speaker 2: pretty quick. And I think that means, you know, big
Speaker 2: keenan game, big big Q game, or you know, like
Speaker 2: you said, Donald parms, see if you can get him
Speaker 2: matched up. Their linebackers are really athletic too. I mean
Speaker 2: their linebackers are playing really well. So I think that's
Speaker 2: you know, Quentin Jefferson, Quinn Williams up front, Quincy Williams, CJ.
Speaker 2: Mosey at that next level, Sauce Garner, DJ Reed, like, man,
Speaker 2: this defense is good. So it's it's gonna be an
Speaker 2: all hands on deck and it might end up being
Speaker 2: very similar to what we saw. Let's get a lot
Speaker 2: of those Eckler checkdowns. Let's try to get some yak.
Speaker 2: Let's just get the ball out of Justin's hands.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, hey, you know what I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you about this. This is a little bit off topic,
Speaker 1: but why would the Bears trade for Montes Sweat?
Speaker 3: It doesn't make.
Speaker 2: Any sense I think for them, Yeah, I think for them.
Speaker 2: You know, look, they better have had a deal in
Speaker 2: place or else. Montee just has way too much leverage
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to make him the highest paid
Speaker 2: d N in the league. So let's just say they
Speaker 2: have a deal in place for him. They've got a
Speaker 2: ton of cap space, and I don't know how desirable
Speaker 2: they are if you're in the open market, but I
Speaker 2: think if you can bring him in, see if coach
Speaker 2: Eberflus can make that connection with him, feel like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got a defensive coach. They need a defensive end,
Speaker 2: you know. I kind of like they've got all the
Speaker 2: They're gonna have two top five picks, you know, in
Speaker 2: the draft, so maybe you reset with Drake may or
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison or something like that. On
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball, and they just you know,
Speaker 2: pass rushers are hard to find. Man you know it.
Speaker 2: They are so hard to find and look, would I
Speaker 2: have done it? No. I just think it's weird because
Speaker 2: he's not on the same schedule as what the rest
Speaker 2: of your team is likely to be on. Right, Like,
Speaker 2: if I were the Raiders, I'd be trading as crazy
Speaker 2: as it's sounds, I just betraying. Max Crosby. Give me
Speaker 2: two ones. I gotta re I gotta tear this whole
Speaker 2: thing down. This thing needs to be torn to the
Speaker 2: ground and rebuilt. So I need as many draft picks
Speaker 2: as I can get. So all these guys are on
Speaker 2: the same timeline and we're just growing together. And I
Speaker 2: think that's something that you know, the Bears for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: you know, let me just pull up their their death
Speaker 2: chart here, just so I can kind of make sure
Speaker 2: I got this thing.
Speaker 3: Money, as you know. So the one thing I was
Speaker 3: thinking about.
Speaker 2: Though, Janica's toast Justin Jones, we know well is oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know, like there's really not you know,
Speaker 2: there's not a lot there. I mean, Jalen Johnson's a
Speaker 2: good he's a good corner. I like Kyler Gordon. He's
Speaker 2: going into his second year. You know, they just spent
Speaker 2: big money Edwards was great in that game against the Chargers.
Speaker 2: He's been great all year. I like Tremaine Edmonds. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they just feel like, hey, if
Speaker 2: we can just get some juice on that front level. We
Speaker 2: feel like we've got good linebackers, we've got a number
Speaker 2: one corner we believe, you know what, and the Kyler's
Speaker 2: coming along in his second year. We just need to
Speaker 2: get some juice on that line.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm thinking is like, Okay, they're not
Speaker 1: going anywhere this year, Like, right, are you going to
Speaker 1: play them?
Speaker 3: Like why even play them? Like put them in bubble
Speaker 3: wrap till next year.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you risk injury on a two
Speaker 1: and six team and this is a guy that you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna build your defense around. I don't know.
Speaker 1: This was weird the trade deadline? Did you before we
Speaker 1: get into just all things Jets, anything else from the
Speaker 1: trade deadline that that intrigued you? You know, there wasn't
Speaker 1: as much activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the only thing I can think of is that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess, Chris, like the thing I was, you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about so many different you know, potential maybe
Speaker 2: blocking tight ends, you know, what was out there. Could
Speaker 2: they go get Jeff Swain from the from the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some of the other guys
Speaker 2: that we were thinking of. Could they go get Josh
Speaker 2: Oliver from the Vikings like one. Could they get Mercedes
Speaker 2: Lewis from the Packers, like? Were any of those things available?
Speaker 2: And I think ultimately whatever the ice was, which would
Speaker 2: not have been much, you know, maybe a pick swap,
Speaker 2: we'll give you a six, you give us your seven
Speaker 2: kind of thing, and they probably just said, you know what,
Speaker 2: Nick knows the offense, but he's he's as good. You know,
Speaker 2: we've got to make because that's why they made the change.
Speaker 2: That's why Tray's out, you know, because they were probably
Speaker 2: looking for that. To me, is what that signaled. We're
Speaker 2: looking for a for a blocking tight end. We need
Speaker 2: to find one. And ultimately they decided Nick Vinette was
Speaker 2: better than whatever else was made available to them at
Speaker 2: that position. You know, I think it was interesting, just
Speaker 2: with the Corey Linsley situation. I don't remember what then,
Speaker 2: what the what the compensation was, but you know, they
Speaker 2: trade for for Ezra Cleveland. I don't think it was much.
Speaker 2: You know, it's great, Yeah, it was six Yeah, so
Speaker 2: he gives them some depth now, and I just kind
Speaker 2: of think about, is there another you know, can you
Speaker 2: shuffle the line a little bit if if Will's getting
Speaker 2: warm down? You know, I thought maybe that could have
Speaker 2: been a position where they could have done where they
Speaker 2: could have added you know, I think I think what
Speaker 2: you see is so many of it are positions where
Speaker 2: you know, it's mostly defense. Right. You can tell Montes
Speaker 2: Sweat to get the quarterback, you can tell Chase Young
Speaker 2: to go get the quarterback. Like those those tend to
Speaker 2: be the positions that kind of you can do in
Speaker 2: the middle of the season because they don't have to
Speaker 2: really worry about the scheme and the fit and all
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff.
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Speaker 3: You know, the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Offense against this Jets defense maybe the battle that could
Speaker 1: decide the game. The Jets passing attack, which is thirty
Speaker 1: first in the NFL against the Chargers pass defense, which
Speaker 1: is ranked last. And you know a couple of those games,
Speaker 1: you know, the two A game, the Mahomes game kind
Speaker 1: of skews things a little bit, but that may be
Speaker 1: the matchup. You know, can Zach Wilson make plays against
Speaker 1: his Chargers defense or will this Chargers defense look similar
Speaker 1: to what they look like on Sunday night against the Bears.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I look at at Zach and I
Speaker 2: got his game log here. You know, he completed forty
Speaker 2: seven percent of his passes against the Giants. He completed
Speaker 2: fifty seven percent of his passes against the Eagles. Now
Speaker 2: he tore the Denver defense apart, which most people have,
Speaker 2: you know, for seventy three percent, but he didn't throw
Speaker 2: a touchdown. He threw a pick against the Chiefs. That
Speaker 2: was his best game of his career, that game against
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. You know, he ends up completing seventy two
Speaker 2: percent for two touchdowns, no interception. So it's in there.
Speaker 2: But then you look and you see fifty percent, one
Speaker 2: fifty seven, forty four percent, one seventy, sixty six percent,
Speaker 2: one forty in a pick and three picks against the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: Like there's plays to be made. The one thing you
Speaker 2: got to do against the Jets and man, you want
Speaker 2: to talk about age. Look, they just did it. They
Speaker 2: just did it against the Bears rush attack, Deonta Foreman
Speaker 2: and and uh Roshawn Johnson and Dj Moore. Well you
Speaker 2: got to do it again. There's only two guys you
Speaker 2: gotta worry about. It's Garrett Wilson and it's Breece Hall.
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson is the only pass catcher that Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: throws to I mean like he's got double the targets,
Speaker 2: double the yards, double the touchdowns as anybody else on
Speaker 2: that team. So if Alan Lazard or Randall Cobb or
Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin are gonna beat you, great, go get him, Zach.
Speaker 2: Do not let Garrett Wilson beat you. You know, put
Speaker 2: Michael Davis on him, shade your help over there, you know,
Speaker 2: rough them up a little bit at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 2: and make sure you don't let Breece Hall get loose.
Speaker 2: So like to me, remember, their offensive line is in shambles.
Speaker 3: It's a mess.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is destroyed. So I think it's I
Speaker 2: think defensively it could look a lot like it did
Speaker 2: against the Bears, where these guys are in the backfield
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. Now Zach can run.
Speaker 2: Zacks an athlete, he can move. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: to me, defensively, those opportunities are there this defense. What
Speaker 2: do we say before the Bears game, like, hey, this
Speaker 2: is a Joey Bosa game, you know, going up against
Speaker 2: borhim the East. This is Joey on number seventy five.
Speaker 2: This is a Bosa game. And it was you know,
Speaker 2: he got the sack, he had the huge stop on
Speaker 2: fourth down where he just I mean it was one
Speaker 2: hand and he wrecks him and he's in the backfield
Speaker 2: for a loss on a fourth and one. Like it
Speaker 2: should be that way again. It should look like that
Speaker 2: for Joey. So, you know, take care of the football.
Speaker 2: Force a turnover like they did last week. They forced
Speaker 2: two nearly three, and really when you count the two
Speaker 2: turnovers on downs, you can almost argue they forced four turnovers,
Speaker 2: you know, two on downs and two interceptions. Do that again,
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's gonna take very similar to
Speaker 2: the Bears. I don't think it's gonna take but seventeen
Speaker 2: points to win this game. If the defense plays like
Speaker 2: it did last week. And really, you could say Chris
Speaker 2: for the last six quarters since halftime of the Chiefs
Speaker 2: game through that whole Bears game, if you can get
Speaker 2: the defense to play that way and more day on Henley, please,
Speaker 2: can we get him out there a little bit maybe
Speaker 2: on some third downs, get that athleticism out there on
Speaker 2: some third downs. I wouldn't mind seeing him running around.
Speaker 2: I think Eric Kendricks has done a great job this
Speaker 2: year against the run. He had a huge couple of
Speaker 2: huge stops. But I think on passing downs, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind seeing day On out there. You just saw him, Man,
Speaker 2: how fast he was running sideline to sideline. Man, it
Speaker 2: was impressive watching him close and laying some lumber. I
Speaker 2: would not mind seeing him and Kenneth out there on
Speaker 2: third downs.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see Thember Zero out there.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years ago, Joey Boss I
Speaker 1: think led the NFL w strip sacks. And that's where
Speaker 1: I feel like it's for the taking. On Monday nights,
Speaker 1: you got Mac and Bosa coming off the edge with Tully.
Speaker 1: Those three guys could decide the game. They correct the game,
Speaker 1: and you know, heck, forget one turnover, get a couple
Speaker 1: score on defense.
Speaker 3: I mean this.
Speaker 1: I think this is the opportunity for Joey and Khalil
Speaker 1: to have to pin their ears back against an offensive
Speaker 1: line that's as beat up and battered as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: like the New York Jets. You know the back end too,
Speaker 1: you know, get your hands on the football. Derwin finally
Speaker 1: got his hands on the football. We've seen Zon do it,
Speaker 1: you know, since he's been a Charger. John got his
Speaker 1: hands on the football last week, so I think the
Speaker 1: defense is gonna have to show up and maybe score.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me to score what they thought the score
Speaker 1: was gonna be Monday night, and I said twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 1: I think twenty points wins you this game.
Speaker 3: Buddy.
Speaker 2: Do you remember well I would say this, Chris, if
Speaker 2: the Jets score seventeen, they have not, Let's see what
Speaker 2: do we got? We got a twenty two, then we
Speaker 2: got ten, ten, twenty thirty one, twenty okay, yeah, so
Speaker 2: that works thirteen Like I don't want to see him
Speaker 2: score more than thirteen. Like, to me, this is like
Speaker 2: a this is an opportunity. You know. We talked about
Speaker 2: it last like go you know, going into the Bear game,
Speaker 2: we talked about, hey, this is the game you dominate.
Speaker 2: This is where you, you know, can take I wish
Speaker 2: they would have taken their foot off the gas a
Speaker 2: little bit more. I would have liked to have seen
Speaker 2: that last offensive series, you know, just get everybody out
Speaker 2: of their kind of thing, you know, because they could
Speaker 2: have done that. They did it on defense, right, you know,
Speaker 2: you had all the backups in there on defense and
Speaker 2: give them an opportunity to shine. I would have loved
Speaker 2: to have seen that. I'd lie, I am hopeful that
Speaker 2: they can do that here, that you can pop a
Speaker 2: couple here or there. You know, see if Herbert can
Speaker 2: pop a couple, get up fourteen nothing, or get up
Speaker 2: let's say, get up double digits, maybe it's fourteen. Put
Speaker 2: this team in obvious passing situations. Yeah, and that's when
Speaker 2: you can really tee off. That's when you can start
Speaker 2: to tee off if you can get up by let's
Speaker 2: say ten or fourteen, and in the second half they
Speaker 2: feel like, okay, we can't just run the ball and
Speaker 2: punt and try to force that turnover. Play the field
Speaker 2: position game because that's all they against the Giants, and
Speaker 2: it worked because the Giants are a terrible offense. So
Speaker 2: that's just the way they want to play. You know,
Speaker 2: they want this thing to be a rock fight. And
Speaker 2: I think if you can try to find some explosives early,
Speaker 2: then you know, that's the key here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jets are not equipped to play from behind,
Speaker 1: you know, And you're right, fourteen to nothing would be
Speaker 1: the perfect scenario, now you flip it. We talked about
Speaker 1: this in the offseason, the slow starts to the second half.
Speaker 1: Now they've just become kind of slow halves for the
Speaker 1: Chargers offense. It seems like they come out strong in
Speaker 1: the first half, didn't score in the second half against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs of the Raiders. Are you concerned that this
Speaker 1: trend will continue, you know, especially against a Jets defense
Speaker 1: that's as stout as they are money, like, you got
Speaker 1: to play four quarters offense.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's you know, it's clear what it is.
Speaker 2: I just pulled up the game log right from that
Speaker 2: second half. So you're up twenty seven to seven. They
Speaker 2: score a field goal on the opening drive, right, so
Speaker 2: now you're up twenty. You know they're struggling. You want
Speaker 2: to run the ball, see if you can get some
Speaker 2: of these five seven minute drives that end in field
Speaker 2: goals and just get this thing done. Instead, you got
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler on first down for minus one yard, you know,
Speaker 2: so that's a three and out. The next one you
Speaker 2: get the turnover on downs deep in Bear's territory, Austin
Speaker 2: Eckler one yard, and then that puts you off schedule,
Speaker 2: and then you get two incompletions and next thing you know,
Speaker 2: you're kicking a field goal after gaining one yard on
Speaker 2: a turnover on downs. Then you look at it here right,
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler up the middle, three yards, Josh Kelly right guard,
Speaker 2: three yards, Austin Eckler up the middle, no gain. Austin
Speaker 2: Eckler on fourth and one, no gain. They can't run
Speaker 2: the ball, you know, they have really struggled to run
Speaker 2: the ball. And for whatever, I don't know what it
Speaker 2: is is, I don't know why it is. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're the wrong run design, you know, if
Speaker 2: the designed runs are just wrong, if if they're not
Speaker 2: able to block them up. Does Austin Eckler not have juice? Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but that's why the
Speaker 2: second half looked like that. You know. Then the final drive,
Speaker 2: which was a three and out, was spiller for one yard,
Speaker 2: spiller for no gain, spiller for two yards. And that's
Speaker 2: them just running out the clock. You know, basically that
Speaker 2: was the So I shouldn't even put that one in there,
Speaker 2: but you get the gist. Their designed runs have been bad.
Speaker 2: Like they're dead last in the league, you know, in
Speaker 2: EPA on designed runs, so and they're dead last by
Speaker 2: a wide margin, like a wide margin. I think their
Speaker 2: success rate is in I wish if I was more responsible,
Speaker 2: i'd pull it up. I think their success rate is
Speaker 2: in like the twenty twenty two to twenty three percent range,
Speaker 2: and like the next lowest is in the thirties. It's
Speaker 2: it's a drastic difference as to how bad they've been.
Speaker 2: And that's those numbers. By the way, those include the
Speaker 2: Miami game. Like that's the crazy part about it, Like
Speaker 2: they were unreal. They were the number one rushing team
Speaker 2: in the league in the Miami game.
Speaker 1: The predictability, though, money, do you think that's that can
Speaker 1: hurt them against the Jets if the Jets don't even
Speaker 1: respect the run and the Chargers try it in the
Speaker 1: first quarter to no avail. I mean, I know Justin
Speaker 1: can make plays with the best of them, but like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's you gotta playing like one handed here, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw the ball every down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, look, they have to run it.
Speaker 2: I think it's just trying to figure out, Okay, these
Speaker 2: plays aren't working, So is it not? You know, like,
Speaker 2: is it is it Isaiah Spiller? Is it just you know,
Speaker 2: instead of trying to stretch these things and find the
Speaker 2: gaps that are out a little bit wider and you're
Speaker 2: running wide, So why not just let's take the biggest back,
Speaker 2: see if we can run them up the gut. Let's
Speaker 2: just see if we can get a little more north
Speaker 2: south somethun in the A and the B gaps. See
Speaker 2: if we can create lanes there. Now, again, I think
Speaker 2: this goes to the Nick Venett you know conversation. Do
Speaker 2: they think this could be in addition in the run
Speaker 2: blocking game, where you know he can help them out
Speaker 2: And now you can get to those edges a little
Speaker 2: bit more. You can get another hat on a hat
Speaker 2: and have a little bit more explosives on the edges.
Speaker 2: So look, we know it's in there. You know Josh
Speaker 2: Kelly had one for forty nine. We saw it against Miami,
Speaker 2: so you know it's And look the Jets, if I
Speaker 2: remember right, aren't the Jets? The Jets are not a
Speaker 2: good run defense. They're a really good pass defense, if
Speaker 2: if memory serves correct, they are not a good run defense.
Speaker 2: Let me see what I got here. I'm almost positive
Speaker 2: of that you.
Speaker 3: Can run on them.
Speaker 1: And I think that the Chargers will probably try to
Speaker 1: see what they got cooking in the first quarter.
Speaker 3: Money. You know, whether it's Kelly or Spiller.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Austin, yeah, one hundred and fifty,
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five per game's get it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think Austin talked about like, you know, he's not
Speaker 1: happy with the way he's been running the football, and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is a spot to get right on
Speaker 1: the ground for this team, because you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: pack it at some point. You really are gonna have
Speaker 1: to pack it at some point, and and Monday night
Speaker 1: would be a nice start against a team that you
Speaker 1: know was four and three right now, money, I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at these these standings in the AFC, man, it.
Speaker 3: Is completely jumbled.
Speaker 1: Coincidentally, we're we're taping this during the Titans Steelers game,
Speaker 1: which we could look back week seventeen and be like,
Speaker 1: you know, that was actually a big game in terms
Speaker 1: of like the tiebreaker with the Titans, and you know
Speaker 1: what the Steelers could be. Right now, we see Cincinnati
Speaker 1: coming on. Baltimore looks to be the class of the
Speaker 1: AFC North. The Jets are just hanging around. The Bills
Speaker 1: have underachieved. The Dolphins are six and two. We know
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs are even though they stubbed their toe
Speaker 1: against the Broncos.
Speaker 2: The Broncos and those two teams are playing, by the way,
Speaker 2: Dolphin Chiefs are playing this week, So get a little
Speaker 2: bonus there.
Speaker 1: How about how about the Broncos beating the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: then standing pat with all the guys that we thought
Speaker 1: were gonna be a part of the fires sale.
Speaker 3: I feel like the Broncos and the Broncos, you look
Speaker 3: at their.
Speaker 1: Schedule, you know, who knows they could get on a
Speaker 1: little bit of a run here, so that that six
Speaker 1: and seven seed in the AFC completely up for grabs
Speaker 1: right now. Unfortunately, the Chargers, you know, I think they're
Speaker 1: like technically a game back of the seventh seed. But
Speaker 1: you got to a host of teams in front of
Speaker 1: you right now. So it's it's one game at a time.
Speaker 1: It's cliche.
Speaker 2: Here's here's my one. Here's my main concern right when
Speaker 2: I look at it as it stands right now, Kansas City, Miami, Jacksonville, Baltimore.
Speaker 2: There's your division winners. Do you think any of those
Speaker 2: four are falling out?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think any of those. Kansas City's gonna
Speaker 2: be there, Miami is going to be there, Jacksonville's going
Speaker 2: to be there, Baltimore is gonna be there. They're gonna
Speaker 2: make it. So then I look below them and I
Speaker 2: see Buffalo, and then you already said it. I see
Speaker 2: the Bengals coming on. I see the Bengals.
Speaker 1: So now they play each other Sunday night, Buffalo Cincinnati exactly.
Speaker 2: So to me, I feel like, I feel like there's
Speaker 2: one spot. You know, I know the Bills have left
Speaker 2: a lot to be desired, but I just feel like
Speaker 2: they're a complete team. You know that look without Milano
Speaker 2: and you know they've had they've taken some serious injuries
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: You know, Milano and exactly Tredevious White. There you go,
Speaker 2: so two of their best players. So they're gone, they're
Speaker 2: you know, they haven't played great. You know, you can
Speaker 2: make a case that they should have lost to the Giants,
Speaker 2: that they didn't get that PI call on Waller in
Speaker 2: the end zone, and that would if they would, you know,
Speaker 2: you feel like, okay, now you got it from the one.
Speaker 2: You win that game with sakuon Barkley, and if Chris
Speaker 2: Godwin just decides to look for a ball, they maybe
Speaker 2: lose to Tampa as well, So you can make a
Speaker 2: case that the Bills aren't quite right, and you know
Speaker 2: they say, and you get to play them head to head.
Speaker 2: But man, I just feel like there's some really good
Speaker 2: teams up there. When I'm looking at the standings and
Speaker 2: I think about, you know, this team could be four
Speaker 2: and three. Have they just maintained against the Titans. It
Speaker 2: feels so much better than three and four when you
Speaker 2: look up and you see Chiefs, Dolphins, Jags, Ravens, Bills,
Speaker 2: and and Bengals all in front of you.
Speaker 3: So look, so look at this AFC.
Speaker 1: So I completely agree with you. I think there's those
Speaker 1: six teams. They're going to be there once we get
Speaker 1: to January. So this is who you're competing against, Pittsburgh, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: the Jets. That's why, that's why Monday's big right to see.
Speaker 1: You know, let's say Tennessee. You guys will know the results.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to speculate on tonight, but you know,
Speaker 1: Will Levis looked good last week.
Speaker 2: He's keep playing tonight. He's playing great man, So.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they got something in Will Levis and the
Speaker 1: Titans going to run Mike Vrabel can coach them up
Speaker 1: with the best of them.
Speaker 3: Denver may think that they can get on a run.
Speaker 1: They're only half a game back of the Chargers right now, right,
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if Antonio Pierson company in
Speaker 1: Vegas are going to get it done. I think the
Speaker 1: Colts are a year away from from doing much without
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the good news, Chris, right, think of
Speaker 2: all those those names I've just read off, so we know,
Speaker 2: like we just talked about this, right, the Bengals are
Speaker 2: coming on. The Browns have perhaps the best defense in
Speaker 2: the league. They've got serious issues on offense, particularly at quarterback,
Speaker 2: but you know they've got and if they're in the conversation,
Speaker 2: is the best defense in football. So the Chargers get
Speaker 2: to play the Ravens. The Chargers get to play the Bills.
Speaker 2: They get to play both of them at home, you know, so,
Speaker 2: and they're both in primetime Ravens on Sunday night, Bills
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. There and the Bills have to travel on.
Speaker 2: What I'm guessing is, let me see if that's it's
Speaker 2: not a highly doubt it's coming off the bye. No,
Speaker 2: so they're going to be coming to play us on
Speaker 2: a short week and they're gonna have to travel on
Speaker 2: a short week, so you get a little bit of
Speaker 2: an advantage there. So that's the good news is these
Speaker 2: teams are in front of you, but you got a
Speaker 2: head to head and you have a chance to own
Speaker 2: that tiebreaker. So you know, Unfortunately for the Chargers, the
Speaker 2: the Ravens are going to be coming off They're gonna
Speaker 2: be coming off the Mini by They're playing Cincinnati that
Speaker 2: Thursday night before they play the Chargers on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Giganic honestly, like, you know, if the Bengals are who
Speaker 1: we think they are, I think that they could end
Speaker 1: up winning the North.
Speaker 3: Like they started slow, that game would be crucial for
Speaker 3: them to because I think they lost to the Ravens
Speaker 3: earlier this year if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: They did, so you know, you split, then you have
Speaker 1: Baltimore come to town. If the Chargers get the head
Speaker 1: to head against the Ravens here now now we're doing
Speaker 1: the uh, well, it's in front of him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think all I'm saying, Chris is it's in front of him.
Speaker 1: As daunting as it looks, the good news is you
Speaker 1: get to play them. You get to earn it. You know,
Speaker 1: if we feel like, oh, wow, I don't think the
Speaker 1: Bills are falling out. I don't think the Ravens are
Speaker 1: falling out. Well, guess what, you can go earn it.
Speaker 1: You can knock them off. And now you've got the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker there and it's still you know, I hate doing
Speaker 1: it because look, this is a big game this week,
Speaker 1: but it's still in front of them.
Speaker 2: You just got to win. You've just got to win.
Speaker 2: You had to beat the Bears. We said that this
Speaker 2: is a must win game against the Bears. This too
Speaker 2: is a must win game. Get this game on Monday
Speaker 2: night against a team that is one of the absolute
Speaker 2: worst on that side of the football. They are one
Speaker 2: of the worst offenses in the league. The Bears are
Speaker 2: one of the worst offensive lines and defensive lines in
Speaker 2: the league. Take advantage of it, and they did. And
Speaker 2: so I think this is a chance for the defense
Speaker 2: to really flex to say, hey, these six quarters were
Speaker 2: not a fluke. These last six quarters are who we are,
Speaker 2: and we can make plays and we can sack the quarterback,
Speaker 2: and we can create turnovers, and man, talk about just
Speaker 2: you know, talk about creating turnovers. I'll tell you there's
Speaker 2: just some guys, man, that are football players. They in
Speaker 2: Alowe is a football player. He's just he is always
Speaker 2: in the right spot at the right time and makes
Speaker 2: the right play over and over again, and the timing
Speaker 2: on that and that's what a pass rush does. So
Speaker 2: now you get this pass rush and bage it's a
Speaker 2: tick off and he's got to get rid of it
Speaker 2: and he doesn't have the zip on it that he
Speaker 2: wants to have on it, so it floats up a
Speaker 2: little bit and there's a Looie ready to make that
Speaker 2: hit shoulder on the ball as soon as it arrives,
Speaker 2: pops up in the air and Derwin is able to
Speaker 2: get the interception. Like it's so good to have a
Speaker 2: Lowie Gilman back there. And I'm.
Speaker 1: So glad you mentioned him because again I think he
Speaker 1: got from the Minnesota game right, so like the Chargers
Speaker 1: had not had him, and I think the secondary really
Speaker 1: did suffer without him. He just he's like a glue guy.
Speaker 1: He's a he knows the system, he's a calling presence
Speaker 1: back there. Derwin trusts him, and you know, I look
Speaker 1: at these games against Chicago and the Jets as almost confidence.
Speaker 3: Builders for this team. Right, you beat the Bears.
Speaker 1: Right, next step, go on the road Monday night. Beat
Speaker 1: a team you're supposed to be get the five hundred.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Then you get the Lions. And we saw what the
Speaker 1: Lions did to the Raiders. The Lions are good, the blip,
Speaker 1: they're the blip. Against the Ravens, you throw it out.
Speaker 1: It was just it wasn't their day. That'll be the game, right.
Speaker 1: A couple of confidence builders in this say, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got Detroit in our place. This is where we can
Speaker 1: make our move. We can get the five and four,
Speaker 1: get our role, and prove that we can actually beat
Speaker 1: a really good team, a Super Bowl contending team in
Speaker 1: the NFC. So none of this matters. We'll have a
Speaker 1: different conversation if the Chargers fall to the Jets. But
Speaker 1: I think that they are prime to at least get
Speaker 1: back to five hundred here on Monday night.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, again, the the blueprint is there,
Speaker 2: you know, get Let me just get to the box
Speaker 2: score from this last I mean again, it was twenty
Speaker 2: four punts. Twenty four punts. They sacked him four times,
Speaker 2: They had eight tackles for loss. Like they forced the
Speaker 2: Jets to punt eleven times for five hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: nine punt yards like, and that's a Giants defense that
Speaker 2: is not great. It's not so Tom Devino under center exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's why they only scored ten points, right, you
Speaker 2: know they should have scored thirteen and got the win.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think that's create the turnover. Go up,
Speaker 2: don't let this team lean on Breisee Hall, and you know,
Speaker 2: just get after it. Stop the run. Force Zack Wilson
Speaker 2: to beat you with anyone but Garrett Wilson. I mean,
Speaker 2: my gosh, Like the Giants were able to shut them
Speaker 2: down in the run game. They only rushed for fifty
Speaker 2: eight yards on twenty two carries, and look what it
Speaker 2: was thirteen points in overtime. Like that's so that's what
Speaker 2: you gotta do. You gotta shut down the run because
Speaker 2: you know, Robert sala is not gonna let Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: throw it all over the yard unless he absolutely has to.
Speaker 2: He wants to protect the ball and lean on his
Speaker 2: defense and try to create some fumbles or try to
Speaker 2: create some turnovers. So you know, it's to me, it's
Speaker 2: another one on paper that looks lopsided. I know their
Speaker 2: defense is really good, but you ought to be able
Speaker 2: to create some turnovers and just really shut that offense
Speaker 2: down to where you can get up two scores and
Speaker 2: then start cutting loose.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this box score for from the Eagles
Speaker 1: game just because I feel like that's a that's an
Speaker 1: offense that has a playmaker on the outside and in
Speaker 1: Brown and Branta Smith and Tevi Goddard a running game.
Speaker 1: You know that the DeAndre Swift had ten carries for
Speaker 1: eighteen yards in that game. AJ Brown went off seven
Speaker 1: for one thirty one, Devonte Smith five for forty four.
Speaker 1: They only scored fourteen points. Jalen Heard has had three interceptions.
Speaker 3: So I thought, that's the key is justin just taking
Speaker 3: care of the football.
Speaker 2: You know, he's turned it all over four times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, so that's again, that's the key. That that
Speaker 2: and that's look, that's what the Jets want to do, right.
Speaker 2: They ran it twenty one times for eighty nine yards.
Speaker 2: They weren't getting a bunch of yards on the carry
Speaker 2: out the box score in front of me now and
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, Zach, you're gonna throw out thirty three
Speaker 2: times for one hundred and eighty six yards. You're gonna
Speaker 2: take five sacks. But you're not gonna throw a pick
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna fumble, and we're gonna win this
Speaker 2: game by field position and field goals and a timely
Speaker 2: touchdown somewhere.
Speaker 3: The field position thing I think is absolutely key too.
Speaker 1: And somebody mentioned this to me yesterday, is you know
Speaker 1: how important it is to have a weapon like Cameron
Speaker 1: Dicker and to take the points against a team like
Speaker 1: the Jets, right like, instead of going forward on fourth
Speaker 1: down in three or fourth and five, if Cameron Dicker
Speaker 1: is like fifty three and in trust Cameron Dicker, he's
Speaker 1: missed two.
Speaker 3: Field goals as a member of the Chargers.
Speaker 1: He's been money automatic and an absolute weapon for this team.
Speaker 1: So I think, especially in a game like this money
Speaker 1: where we could see it being low scoring and points
Speaker 1: are going to probably be at a premium, Cameron Dicker
Speaker 1: could be another deciding force here in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point, Chris, And I think that's
Speaker 2: something that Coach Staley has said when he's been asked
Speaker 2: about the fourth down stuff. He's like, it's it's not
Speaker 2: a philosophy, it's just the game dictates it, you know,
Speaker 2: And to me, you're right, this is a game where
Speaker 2: you're fine taking field goals, take them all. You know,
Speaker 2: you can get into positive you're get a plus territory
Speaker 2: and get into dicker range, and you know, hopefully it's
Speaker 2: a it's a favorable weather, which it looks like it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be a little chilly. But outside of that,
Speaker 2: I think you're fine. Then take the points, you know,
Speaker 2: take the points. So look, I think it's it's not
Speaker 2: it's not blowout. I don't. I don't think it's like that.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's a game where you know,
Speaker 2: let's let's see that Brandon Staley defense. Shine. Let's let's
Speaker 2: do the same thing you did against the Bears. You
Speaker 2: took away Dj Moore, you took away the run game.
Speaker 2: Do it again, take away the run game. Take away
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. Let anything else beat you. Anything else is fine,
Speaker 2: but don't let it be those two things. Yep.
Speaker 1: And I just I just go back to what you
Speaker 1: said earlier that I think is probably the most likely
Speaker 1: path to winning is to get out in front of
Speaker 1: this team right off the rip, you know, right like
Speaker 1: you said, get up fourteen nothing, because I can't envision
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson coming back and beating Justin Herbert. So a
Speaker 1: quick start on offense, you know, be opportunistic on defense,
Speaker 1: and see if you can get to four and four.
Speaker 3: You ready for New York?
Speaker 2: Well I better be. I'm leaving tomorrow morning, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be there, be there all weekend, so I'll have
Speaker 2: plenty of time to get settled in before the before
Speaker 2: the Monday nighter. You know, I'll just say this in
Speaker 2: in closing. You know, I think I think it's it's
Speaker 2: a great opportunity for Justin to use his legs in
Speaker 2: this one. To me, that's that's something that's gonna have
Speaker 2: to be a factor. And I'm not talking about him
Speaker 2: running for ninety yards. I'm talking about Kellen Moore designing
Speaker 2: some just boots. Just get him on the move, don't
Speaker 2: let him sit back there. They're too good up the
Speaker 2: middle to just get in his lap too quickly. So
Speaker 2: and you know what, when he's on the move, take off,
Speaker 2: you know, take off and pick up five slide and
Speaker 2: you know, just get positive yards. That's that's gonna be
Speaker 2: the key.
Speaker 1: Maybe, hey, you know what, maybe design runs like that's
Speaker 1: the way to get a running game going. Why not?
Speaker 2: And you get the team on their heels, no doubt, exactly,
Speaker 2: no doubt.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, well, hey, as always, we appreciate you listening,
Speaker 1: watching for money. I'm Chris. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1: Hopefully the Chargers will be a four and four and.
Speaker 3: We'll be talking about a pivotal game against the Detroit line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll you next time. Let's get it.